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GOOD EVENING.

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THIS IS A FEMA ENVIRONMENTAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MEETING, WHERE WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT THAT WAS COMPLETED FOR THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER.

UH, THIS EVENING WE WOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION WHERE WE WOULD GO OVER THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROCESS, AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS THAT CALLS US TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

SO WE WILL HAVE COMMENT CARDS.

SO AT THE END OF OUR DISCUSSION OR PRESENTATION, WE WILL HAVE COMMENT CARDS ON THE THREE TABLES IN THE BACK, AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PLACE YOUR COMMENTS ON THOSE CARDS AND GIVE IT TO US.

AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, WE HAVE CHRISTINE IN THE CORNER, RIGHT THERE.

WAVE YOUR HAND, CHRISTINE.

SHE IS THE PERSON THAT YOU WOULD GIVE YOUR COMMENT CARDS TO.

ILENE, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE BEGIN? OKAY, SO WE HAVE THE VIKA, SAME WITH OUR FEMALE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE OFFICER HERE.

SHE'S THE DEPUTY FOR THAT DIVISION.

AND WE ALSO HAVE CHELSEA KLEIN HERE AND SHE'S OUR LEAD ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISOR HERE FOR NORTH CAROLINA FOR THIS DISASTER, WHICH WAS FASTER NUMBER 43 93.

ALL RIGHT.

SO HERE'S TO VIKA FOR HER PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO OVER A FEW SLIDES.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THEM.

SO I'M THINKING ALL OF YOU COULD READ THEM, BUT I'LL GO OVER SOME POINTS.

UH, ON THE FEMA SIDE FOR 43 93, SINCE 2018, FEMA HAS AWARDED 756 MILLION, $14,315.

WE'VE HELPED NORTH CAROLINA COMMUNITIES CLEAR DEBRIS ADDRESS, EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE MEASURES, REPAIR, AND REPLACE ROADS, SCHOOLS, LIBRARIES, AND OTHER ELIGIBLE PUBLIC FACILITIES FOR 43 93.

THE PRESENT PRESIDENTIAL DECLARATION, WHICH WAS EXPEDITED WAS ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2018, THE NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

AND THE RECIPIENT IS THAT IT IS THE RECIPIENT FOR FEMA PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.

THE CITY OF NEW BERN CRAVEN COUNTY IS A SUB-RECIPIENT FOR THE PA FUNDING PROGRAM.

THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS THE CITY OF NEW BERN'S CUSTOMER.

THE EXISTING FACILITY, WHICH HAS ESTABLISHED FACILITY WAS DEEMED SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED BY THE LOCAL FLOOD PLAN ADMINISTRATOR, NORTH CAROLINA, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE CITY OF NEW BERN AND FEMA HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS AS CONDITIONS FOR THE FEDERAL FUNDING.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK TIMELINE ON THE FEMA SIDE OF HOW THIS PROJECT IS PW WAS DONE, THE EXPLORATORY CALL WAS TAKING PLACE ON NOVEMBER 8TH, 2018.

THE RECOVERY SCOPING MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT TOOK PLACE ON NOVEMBER 29TH, 2018.

AND THE FIRST SITE INSPECTION WAS ON MARCH 23RD, 2019.

THE FIRST VERSION OF THIS PROJECT WAS CLEARED ON THE HPQ, WHICH IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION QUEUE ON MARCH 4TH, 2020.

AND THE SECOND VERSION OF THE PROJECT ENTERED THE ENVIRONMENTAL CUE ON MARCH 5TH, 2021.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? HELLO CARD TO HOLD IT IN THE SLIDES.

SO THIS IS PARDON .

SO THIS, UM, THE SCHEMATIC ON THE SLIDE IS SHOWING YOU THE, UH, THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE NEW RELOCATION OF THE STANLEY WIDE CENTER.

YOU CAN SEE THE OLD LOCATION AFTER, AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE IN THE BLUE AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION THERE AT THE BOTTOM.

SO THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROCESS THAT WAS TRIGGERED BY THE REVIEW OF THE RELOCATION.

THIS APPLIES TO ANY FEDERAL PROJECT IT'S TRIGGERED BY THE SPENDING OF FEDERAL DOLLARS.

JUST $1 TRIGGERS THE REVIEW OF ALL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS AND EXECUTIVE ORDERS.

UM, WE ARE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AGENCY IS COMPLIANT WITH THOSE LAWS AND EXECUTIVE ORDERS.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS REVIEW WAS ALSO TO IDENTIFY ANY ISSUES AND AVOID ANY IMPACTS AND THAT THIS PROCESS MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE PERMANENT WORK, WHERE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION BEGINS ON THE NEW CENTER.

SO THE UMBRELLA LAW, THE PURPOSE OF ALL OF THIS AND THE TRIGGER FOR ALL OF THIS WAS UNDER THE

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NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT, WHICH PROVIDES THE PROJECT FRAMEWORK AND DETERMINES THE LEVEL OF REVIEW FOR THE NECESSARY PROJECTS.

UM, AND IT PROVIDES INFORMATION SUCH AS THIS PUBLIC MEETING, UM, ON ALL, UH, PUBLIC FEDERAL ACTIONS.

AND IT APPLIES TO EVERY SINGLE PROJECT THAT FEMA DOES.

UM, THERE ARE FOUR LEVELS OF REVIEW UNDERNEATH THAT.

ONE IS SANATORY SORRY, STATUTORY EXCLUSIONS, WHICH ARE LIMITED TO ACTIVITIES THAT RETURN PROJECTS TO PRE-DISASTER CONDITION, MEANING PUTTING IT BACK JUST LIKE IT WAS CATEGORICAL EXCLUSIONS ARE ALSO HAVE BEEN DETERMINED THAT ARE NOT INDIVIDUALLY OR CUMULATIVELY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO FOR INSTANCE, IF WE HAD A ROOF THAT HAD ASPHALT SHINGLES AND THE APPLICANT WANTED METAL SHINGLES, WE COULD CATEGORICALLY EXCLUDE THAT PROJECT.

AND THEN THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.

MEANING THAT PROJECT DOESN'T FIT INTO EITHER OF THOSE TWO CATEGORIES.

IT DOESN'T MEAN A STATICS.

IT DOESN'T NEED A CAT X.

AND SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT PROCESS.

AND THE FOURTH LEVEL OF REVIEW IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.

MEANING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE INVESTMENT.

SO NEITHER A CAT EXPORT STATICS OR A CAT X APPLIED TO THIS PROJECT.

WE BEGAN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT SCOPING PROCESS.

THE CITY HIRED A CONSULTING AGENCY, AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM TO, UM, IDENTIFY WHAT THE POTENTIAL CAUSES OR SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS WOULD BE TO THE COMMUNITY.

THERE WERE PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE THE COMMUNITY, YOU GUYS WERE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE INPUT ON TO WHAT YOU WANTED TO SEE IN THE NEW BUILDINGS, WHAT TYPE OF ACTIVITIES AND AMENITIES WERE OFFERED.

UM, AND WE WILL DETERMINE, AND WE HAVE DETERMINED WHETHER OR NOT, UM, I'M SORRY, LET ME START OVER.

UM, THERE WERE TWO POSSIBLE OUTCOMES OF THE EA EITHER A FINDING OF NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, MEANING THERE'S NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT REQUIRED.

AND THE REVIEW WAS CONCLUDED, OR WE WOULD HAVE A NOTICE OF INTENT TO PREPARE, TO PREPARE AN EIS FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS REVIEW TONIGHT.

AND THIS PUBLIC MEETING, FEMA HAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS A FINDING OF NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT WITH THEIR VIGO PATIENT OF THIS BIG BUILDING.

SO SOME OF THE LAWS THAT WE GO THROUGH UNDER THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT PROCESS IS ONE OF THEM IS THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT.

THIS IS ALSO TRIGGERED FOR ANY PROPERTIES, OLDER, 50 YEARS OLD.

AND THERE'S LAW ENSURES IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IMPACTS TO HISTORIC BUILDINGS, DISTRICT ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES OR STRUCTURES, THIS PROJECT TRIGGERED CONSULTATION WITH THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE AND STATE AND LOCAL TRIBES THAT WERE IN THAT HAD ANCESTRAL TIES TO NORTH CAROLINA.

THEY CAN TRIGGER A MODIFICATION OF THE PROJECT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS PROJECT.

WE CONSULTED WITH THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR.

AND THEY RECEIVED CONCURRENCE WITH OUR DETERMINATION.

THE, UH, FORMER STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER WAS BUILT IN 1975 AND WAS NOT CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC PLACES, BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER 50 YEARS OF AGE.

THERE ARE THREE EXISTING PROPERTIES ON THE PARCEL THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED, UM, AT THOSE ADDRESSES THERE.

AND THEY WERE ALSO DETERMINED, NOT ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.

THEY LACKED BOTH HISTORICAL AND ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE.

WE ALSO DETERMINED THAT THERE WERE NO ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES AND NO POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN THE AREA.

WHAT ARE THE OTHER LAWS WE HAD LOOKED AT UNDER THIS ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WAS THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND BYLAW.

ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES MUST LOOK AT IMPACTS TO BOTH ENDANGERED AND THREATENED SPECIES AND THEIR CRITICAL HABITAT.

WE DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS NO CRITICAL HABITAT OR THREATENED ENDANGERED SPECIES LISTED IN THE PROJECT AREA.

WE ALSO COORDINATED WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

THERE WERE NO WATERS CONSIDERED WATERS OF THE U S ON THE PARCEL.

UM, HOWEVER, UM, AT THE STATE LEVEL, THERE IS A NATIONAL POLLUTION DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM PERMIT NEEDED FOR THE GROUND DISTURBING ACTIVITIES THAT HELPS REGULATE RUNOFF.

THEN WE HAD THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS ON FLOOD, PLAIN MANAGEMENT AND WETLAND MANAGEMENT.

THERE ARE NO WETLANDS ON THE PROPOSED SITE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, THE TOP BOX IS WHERE THE FORMER LOCATION OF THE STEMI WHITE RECREATION CENTER IS, WHICH IS LOCATED IN AN 80 FLOOD PLAIN.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSAL LOCATION AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN THERE, WHICH IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF BOTH U 180 500 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN.

SO HERE WE ARE AT THAT PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, WHICH STARTED JULY 16TH OF THIS YEAR.

AND WE'LL GO THROUGH AUGUST 15TH, YOU ARE ABLE TO NAIL EMAIL OR SUBMIT YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS.

THE MAILING ADDRESS IS THERE ON THE SCREEN.

THE EMAIL ADDRESS IS THERE INDUSTRY.

THERE ARE ALSO PHYSICAL COPIES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND THE BACK THAT ALSO HAVE THAT, AND A FULL DOCUMENT IS ALSO AVAILABLE ONLINE AT THAT WEBSITE.

OR THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COPIES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AT THE BACK OF THE TABLE.

ALL RIGHT? SO WE'RE AT THE PORTION OF OUR PRESENTATION

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WHERE YOU GUYS CAN MEET WITH THE FIRST TABLE AT THE BACK WOULD BE FOR US THE ENVIRONMENTAL HISTORY PRESERVATION SPECIALIST.

WE WILL BE BACK THERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT TABLE IN THE MIDDLE WOULD BE THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE TABLE.

AND THAT WILL BE, UH, DEVIKA SANE.

AND SHE'S THERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE QUESTIONS.

AND WE HAVE THE STATE HERE WITH US TONIGHT AS WELL, SUPPORTING THIS FEMA MEETING.

SO THEY ARE AT THE THIRD TABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AND AT EACH TABLE, WE'LL HAVE THOSE COMMENT CARDS WHERE WE CAN GET YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER.

IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE YOUR PHONE NUMBERS.

AND YOU CAN ADD THOSE COMMENTS TO US BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TAKE THOSE COMMENTS THAT YOU PROVIDE TO US AS A RECORD.

SO WE CAN INCLUDE THOSE INTO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS INCLUDED AS A PUBLIC COORDINATION PIECE FOR OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.

SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT IT AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM SO WE CAN START OUR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

AND YOU GUYS ARE STILL WELCOME TO TAKE A PICTURE OR TAKE THE INFORMATION DOWN ON THIS SLIDE.

WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THIS SLIDE UP THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE NIGHT.

SO YOU GUYS CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE EASELS AT THE BACK AS WELL, THAT SHOWS THE, UH, PROPOSED PROJECT AND, UH, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR IT.

AND ON THAT TABLE, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, THE FLOOR PLAN WHERE YOU CAN SEE INSIDE THE BUILDING AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE SWITCH EVERYTHING OVER TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM? YES.

MA'AM.

YEAH.

I'M CLEAR.

IT'S CLEAR.

ALL WE TALKED ABOUT, GOING TO BE RELOCATED.

YES.

MA'AM THAT'S THE PROPOSED PROJECT TONIGHT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO FEMA.

SO WE WILL HAVE A SENSE OF WHERE PEOPLE YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU DON'T GET IT, OR IS IT A DONE DEAL? SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THE, UH, PUBLIC MEETINGS PRIOR TO THEM SUBMITTING THAT APPLICATION TO US FOR THE RELOCATION, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE .

YES.

I KNOW WE HAD, I KNOW WE HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS, BUT DURING THE PROGRAM THEY USE, IT WAS WALKING.

IT WAS PEABODY.

YOU'RE SAYING THEY DIDN'T WANT HIM TO BE OKAY.

SO WHAT DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE WHEN YOUR HEAD OF PUFFING MEANS? CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT SEEMED TO BE.

SO NO, THE SLIDE WITH THE TIMELINE THAT DEVIKA PROVIDED SHOW WHEN WE RECEIVED THAT PROJECT AND THAT WAS IN MARCH OF 20, 20, 20, 21, I'M SORRY, 20, 21.

YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK TO IT? UM, NO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, JUST, I'M JUST, IT'S JUST A MISUNDERSTANDING ME BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE PRIVILEGE OF THIS MEETING, LIKE YOU WAS, YOU ALL STILL WAS DECIDING WHERE TO MOVE IT ON THAT.

NO MA'AM SO THE PROJECT WAS ALREADY SUBMITTED TO US AND THAT'S THE VERSION ONE, RIGHT? THE VERSION ONE WAS, UH, SUBMITTED TO US IN MARCH OF 2022.

AND THEN THE SECOND VERSION, WHICH INCLUDED THE RELOCATION WAS SUBMITTED TO US AND ANSWER OUR QUEUE, WHICH IS ENVIRONMENT HISTORY, PRESERVATION, HUMAN, MARCH OF 2020 .

ALRIGHT, SO MY NAME IS VICTOR TAYLOR.

SO AS IT IS, SINCE IT HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE THAT THE CENTER WILL BE MOVING, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? OKAY.

SO WHEN WE WERE PRESENTED THE PROJECT FROM OUR APPLICANT, WHICH IS THE CITY OF NEW BERN, IT WAS FOR A RELOCATION.

SO MY QUESTION AGAIN, STILL THE SAME.

SO BASICALLY THE PROPOSAL WILL BE MOVING.

OTHER CENTER IS ALREADY DONE.

SO WHAT ARE WE HERE TONIGHT TO JUST SEE WHAT'S GOING ON? IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, OR DO WE HAVE ANY SAY, SO YOU SEE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AGAINST AND MOVING.

SO WE NEED TO MOVE IN, HAND THE MEETING.

YES.

I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT WHY ARE WE HERE TONIGHT TO SEE WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE INSIDE? OR WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE FORM TO SAY WHAT WE STILL FEEL? SO AS A PART OF THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT, WE HAVE TO INVOLVE THE PUBLIC IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

AND THAT'S ALWAYS NOT DONE UNTIL THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS COMPLETE.

OH, WE STILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HALT BE MOVING.

SO FEMA WAS PRESENTED WITH THE PROJECT TO RELOCATE STANLEY WIRE, SAME OLD.

SOME OF YOU ALL HAVE HEARD

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ABOUT FAMOUS.

WE HAD A FEMA GUY COME HERE.

THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE.

AND HE SAID HE HAD NEVER BEEN ON THE PROPERTY, BUT HE REPRESENTED THE CITY FOR TWO YEARS ALREADY, PRIOR TO THEN.

SO I'M NOT TOO HAPPY.

WE DON'T REPRESENT THE S THE CITY.

SO THE CITY IS OUR APPLICANT.

LET ME GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE.

SO OUR RECIPIENT OF ANY FUNDING, IT'S THE STATE AND THAT'S THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.

SO THE CITY OF NEWBURGH PRESENTED THEIR PROJECTS, WHATEVER THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO, BECAUSE FEMA DON'T DECIDE WHAT IS DONE IN COMMUNITY.

SO THE CITY OF NEWBURGH PRESENTED THE PROJECT TO THE STATE, WHICH THEY APPROVED IT AND SENT IT TO, I'M SORRY, THE ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE STATE SPEND WIDE.

OH, IT'S THE CITY OF NEW IS THE ACTUAL WAY YOU SHOWED THE FIRST PICTURE.

YOU DECIDED THAT WAS WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU FIRST.

AND THEN YOU STATED LATER THAT THE INFORMATION WAS THERE TO MOVE THE PROJECT.

SO WHEN YOU GOT THAT FIRST REQUEST, WAS THERE, UH, INDICATION THAT IT WAS TO BE MOVED AT THAT TIME? OKAY.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO, ON THE FIRST VERSION OF THE PROJECT THAT WAS GOING TO BE THERE TO REPAIR AND ELEVATE IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, Y AND THEN THE CITY OF NEW BERN MADE A BUSINESS DECISION TO GO INTO AN ALTERNATE PILOT PROGRAM, THE 4 28 FIXED COST PROGRAM.

THEY MADE THAT DECISION AND WE PROCESSED THE PROJECT ACCORDINGLY.

SO WE HAVE OBLIGATED 5 MILLION, $629, 986, 620 $9,986.

AND SEVENTY-FIVE CENTS.

THAT'S ALREADY BEEN OBLIGATED TO THE CITY OF NEW BERN.

SO THAT THE SECOND VERSION IS WHEN THEY DID THE PROPOSAL TO RELOCATE IT TO THE NEW LOCATION.

I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM.

DO WE HAVE THE OPTION TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE? IF WE TURN ON EXCEL PROJECT, AS THE SLASH PROPOSAL PUT BEFORE US, DO WE LOSE THAT PROJECT OR DO WE HAVE THE OPTION TO GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE? THE PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN FUNDED.

IT WAS THE CITY OF NEWBURGH DECISION.

IT WAS THE CITY'S DECISION TO RELOCATE.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN OBLIGATED.

SO THERE'S A COMMENT, PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENTS, EXCUSE ME.

, I'M ALMON BARBARA BEST.

AND I'M WITH THE CITY OF NEW BERN RIGHT NOW.

UM, LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR.

SO I HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING FROM THE PUBLIC.

YOU HAVE UNDERSTANDING THAT YES, YOU'RE GIVING US YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT TONIGHT OF THE NEW PROPOSED LOCATION.

CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW, JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GIVING US THIS ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT TONIGHT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS A DONE DEAL, THAT THE STANDING WHITE REC CENTER WILL BE FILLED AT THIS NEW LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S BOTTOM LINE IS GRACE BASED ON THE DECISION BY THE CITY OF NEWBURGH BOARD OF ALDERMAN, AM I CORRECT? THE CITY OF NEWBURGH BOARD INVOLVEMENT HAS THE LAST WORD IN WHETHER OR NOT THIS LAW, THIS STANLEY WHITE WILL BE BUILT IN THE NEW LOCATION OR WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT.

I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE CITY'S BIG BUSINESS.

I JUST KNOW THAT AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST, THAT THIS IS A PART OF OUR CHECKLIST IN ORDER TO OBLIGATE YOUR PROJECT AND SEND IT BACK TO PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.

THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT.

YES.

ANYTHING HISTORIC IN THE AREA OR ANY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN THE AREA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH US, WE CAN PUT ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS OR INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR ASSESSMENT.

SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS, RIGHT? EXACTLY.

AND IT'S NOT THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS BASED ON THE DECISION, JUST BECAUSE FEMA IS GIVING YOU THIS ASSESSMENT TONIGHT.

DOES IT MEAN WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THE BOARD OF AUTUMN AT THAT WATER BOTTLE TO SAY, YES, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IT IN A NEW LOCATION.

OKAY.

IT HAS TO BE FOUR VOTES FROM BOARD OF ALDERMAN FOR THAT BUILDING CAN BE BUILT IN THE NEW LOCATION.

OKAY? SO I WOULD ADVISE ALL OF YOU, ALL OF YOU, YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR ALDERMAN.

YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR

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MAYOR.

YOU NEED TO STAND FLAT.

YOU NEED TO GET IN THEIR FACE.

YOU NEED TO STAND FLAT-FOOTED AND YOU NEED TO VOICE YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR OPINIONS OF WHAT YOU WANT IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

YOU VOTED THOSE PEOPLE IN VOTED.

THE MAYOR VOTED THE BOARD OF ALL THE MONEY.

SO YOU NEED TO TALK TO HIM BECAUSE IT'S THE BOTTOM LINE IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE FOR FOLKS.

MY NAME IS BILL IT MORE.

UM, I'M HERE STANDING WITH MY BIOLOGICAL FATHER, KID.

THE FAMILY HAD MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

I'M HERE TO REPRESENT PAMELA HOLLOWAY.

WELL, THE LOCATION IS FINE.

I'LL SAY THAT BECAUSE WE ARE HERE.

THOSE WHO WANT IT, THEY'RE WILLING THERE.

IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE IT WAS JUST A SMALL NUMBER THAT REPRESENTED THE CITY OF NEWARK AND OUR COMMUNITY.

WE GOT PREPPER COMMUNITY TRICK OR CRAVE AND TERRORIST, DUFFY FEEL THE AVENUES.

THIS HAS TO BE LOOKED AT FROM AN INCLUSIVE POINT OF VIEW, QUIT BEING SELFISH, FOLLOW THE SIGNS AS WELL.

IT MAKES NO SENSE TO BILL BACK.

I'M THE SAME FOOTPRINT.

WHY GO BACK TO ASIA, WE'RE GOING ON ONE FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY.

OKAY.

WHAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT? HOW ARE WE GOING TO, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE PROGRAMMED? IS IT GOING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY? OKAY.

SO THAT SHOULD BE OUR CONCERN.

IS THERE A VISIONARY THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE OFFICE.

THEY'RE MAKING THE DECISION TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, ALL THE NEEDS OF THE COMMITTEE, NOT JUST ONE PARTICULAR NEED.

SO COME ON, YOU KNOW, THINK BIG AND THINK BETTER.

WHAT I WANT OH, FOR SOME BAPTIST.

UH, I WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE TRADITIONALLY TO BURN IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY HAS GOTTEN THE SHORT END OF THE STICK.

OKAY.

BUT THIS RIGHT HERE STARTS FROM THE FOUNDATION ABOUT LEADERSHIP BACK IN 2018.

OUR LEADERSHIP FROM WORLD WAR TWO, WENT ON FACEBOOK AND WENT CRAZY BEFORE WE EVEN HAD ANY OF THE FACTS AND CAUSED THE WORLD WITH THIS.

OKAY.

THAT THERE WAS A MEETING ON APRIL 12TH, APRIL 12TH.

OKAY.

WHERE YOU'RE ON A BIN, BRENDAN ONE WHO JUST SPOKE THE OTHER ONE, WHO IS THE ULTIMATE OF THAT WARD.

THERE WAS ANOTHER MEETING ON APRIL 22ND.

OKAY.

WHERE THE CITY OF NEWBURGH GAVE A PROPOSAL TO THIS GROUP WHO IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS A COMMUNITY LEADERS.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT SAID THEY WERE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE NAACP AND THE DEPUTY FIELD COMMUNITY.

AT LARGE.

THEY GAVE THESE PEOPLE A PROPOSAL AND SAID, HEY, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THE PROPOSAL? I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE UNEASY ABOUT IT.

SOME OF THEM SAID, HEY, YOU GOT TO TAKE THIS TO THE COMMUNITY.

ON APRIL 28TH, THE ALDERMAN OF THE WARD WENT TO THE CITY OF NEWBURGH AND MADE A PROPOSAL.

WE SAID, LET'S BUY THIS PROPERTY.

NOT ONLY DID THAT PERSON MAKE THE MOTION TO DO IT ALL SEVEN OF THEM VOTED TO DO IT.

OKAY? SO WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF NONSENSE.

AND IT'S A LEADERSHIP ISSUE.

THIS IS ABOUT LEADERSHIP IS WRONG.

AND THIS IS A BUSINESS DECISION FOR THE CITY.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S RIGHT WRONG OR INDIFFERENT.

WHAT I'M SAYING, IF THE LEADERSHIP IS WRONG AND THE LEADERSHIP IS MISLEADING PEOPLE, THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING ONE THING, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, I GOT THE FACTS.

AND IF YOU WANT TO COME SEE ME, COME SEE ME.

I GOT THE ZOOM MEETINGS.

I GOT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN BALKAN, ZOOM MEETINGS.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, AFTER THE APRIL 20TH MEETING, THERE WAS ANOTHER MEETING ON MARCH.

AND THIS IS ALL PUBLIC RECORD.

BY THE WAY, ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS GO DO THE RESEARCH.

UH, ON MARCH THE 20, UH, THE PERSON WAS APRIL 28TH.

THE SECOND ONE WAS ON MARCH THE 26TH.

THE ULTIMATE OF THAT WARD THEN PUT TOGETHER A SUB COMMITTEE TO SAY, HEY, LET'S START TALKING ABOUT THIS NEWS.

IT WASN'T ABOUT NO PLAN B.

SO ALL THAT MESS.

I'M NOT NO POLITICIAN.

I'M A BUSINESSMAN.

I'M ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

I AIN'T GOT NO POLITICAL FACTORS AT ALL.

OUR LEADERSHIP IS MESSED UP.

OKAY? PEOPLE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THE LEADERSHIP THAT WE'VE GOT ALL THIS POLITICAL BULL JOT AND SAYING ONE THING TO ONE PERSON AND DOING ANOTHER SEVEN TO SEVEN PEOPLE THAT VOTED ALL SEVEN OF THEM.

PEOPLE VOTED TO MOVE THAT CENTER.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THEM.

THEY ALL CHOSE TO DO THAT.

SO WHILE WE'RE SITTING HERE SAYING NOW THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER, IT'S A DONE DEAL.

WE CAN SAY WHATEVER WE WANT TO SAY, THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.

THE BUSINESS MAKES SENSE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE 3 MILLION MORE DOLLARS OUT OF TAXPAYER'S MONEY AND GO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WHERE THEY HAVE A PLACE.

THEY CAN MOVE UP THE ROAD, BUT PEOPLE PLEASE LISTEN.

OUR BLACK COMMUNITY.

WE NEED SOME MORE LEADERS.

WE NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS OTHER MESS AND LOOK

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AT OUR LEADERS AND STOP BLAMING IT ON THE WHITE FOLKS AND THE WHITE MAN, JUST THE WHITE MAN THAT LOOK AT OUR LEADERSHIP, THE LEADERSHIP AND NO PROBLEM.

WELL, LET ME, LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING.

BREAK YOU DOWN.

NO, I NEED TO CLEAR THIS UP.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT MINE.

YOU TALK ABOUT MINE TO HEAR, WELL, LET ME, LET ME SPEAK FOR A SECOND.

SO BARBARA IS THE OLDER WOMAN FOR MY DISTRICT.

SO I PREFER TO THAT.

SHE SPEAK FOR ME.

SHE REPRESENTS THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES.

YES.

I'M FLOATING ALONG WITH THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE THIRD AVENUE, ALTERNATE SITE.

IF IT WAS NOT APPROVED BY FEMA.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I VOTE.

IF I JUST WANT TO CLEAR THAT UP WITH YOU.

I DID NOT FOCUS.

IT WAS A DONE DEAL THAT I AGREE WITH THIS INTERVIEW BEING REVEAL THIRD AVENUE.

I JUST WANT IT.

I WANT THOSE FACTS, RIGHT? WHEN YOU TALK, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ME, YOU MAKE SURE YOU GOT YOUR FACTS, RIGHT? THIS IS THE PERSON'S BUSINESS.

OKAY? YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR PERSONAL .

THIS WOULD BE MY REBUTTAL.

THEY HAVE IN FOR A SITE, THEY WENT BACK AND THEY ASKED TO MOVE THE SITE ALL SEVEN, AUTOMATE IT.

WASN'T ONE.

IT WASN'T TRUE.

AND IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT IT, THEN DON'T SUPPORT IT.

LET IT BE A BOAT OF SEVEN OR SIX TO ONE OR FIVE TO TWO, WHATEVER IT SHOULD BE, DON'T SUPPORT IT.

BUT DON'T GET IN HERE AND TALK THAT NONSENSE BECAUSE LET ME READ TO YOU WHAT IT SAYS.

AUTOMATE HARRIS MADE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION, AUTHORIZING THE MIRROR, TO EXECUTE A GRIEVANCE FOR THE PURCHASE AND SALE.

THE ROOF PROPERTY LOCATED ON BROAD STREET, GASTON BOULEVARD, AS REPRESENTED, IDENTIFIED IN ITEM EIGHT AND NINE SECOND BY OTTOMAN KIDS BE UPON A ROLL CALL.

IT WAS VOTED TO CARRY THAT SEVEN TO ZIP.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THIS IS MORE ABOUT OUR LEADERSHIP.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

YES.

TRADITIONALLY, LET ME SAY IT AGAIN.

CAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

BLACK FOLKS HAVE GOTTEN THE SHORT END OF THE STICK TRADITIONALLY ALL THE TIME IN NEW WORK, BUT OUR LEADERSHIP DOESN'T CARRY THROUGH.

YOU CAN'T GET MAD FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN OTHER WARDS AND OTHER AUTOMATES THAT GET THINGS DONE FOR THEIR PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO STRATEGICALLY USE STRATEGIC METHOD AND ACCESS TO GET THINGS DONE.

WE NEED SOME NEW LEADERSHIP.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

YEAH.

I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS AS TO, YOU KNOW, CLARIFY.

OKAY.

SURE.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION.

IF WE MOVED TO THE NEW LOCATION, FEMA WILL COVER THE INSURANCE ON THIS BUILDING.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO HIM, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WE'RE STILL COVERED BY FEMA.

WHEREAS IF WE DON'T, WE HAVE TO BUY INSURANCE IN THE PRIVATE MARKET.

AND BY INTELLECT, YOU WILL HAVE TO PURCHASE THEIR INSURANCE, COVERING THE INSURANCE WHERE IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT STAYS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE LOCATED.

THAT IS NOT ON FEMA FOR THE INSURANCE, THE CITY LOOK AT THEIR SHOW.

OKAY.

BUT IF WE, IF, IF WE MOVE IT, IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH COMMERCIAL INSURANCE, NATURAL FEMA, RIGHT? YEAH.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

SO IT WOULD NOT BE COVERED BY FEMA INSURANCE.

IT WOULD BE COVERED BY PRIVATE INSURANCE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE.

IT'S IN YOUR PROPOSAL.

IT'S IN WRITING IN YOUR PROPOSAL ON PAGE 10.

OKAY.

NOW, SO, SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY CORRECT THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PICK UP THE TAB FOR THE INSURANCE, WHICH YOUR ESTIMATE IS AS OF NOW $59,000 A YEAR.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ESTIMATES IN YOUR PROPOSAL PROVIDED THAT YES, THAT'S A CITY THAT WAS PROPOSED.

THAT'S WHAT THE CITY PROVIDES, THE PRESENTATION THAT IT'S IN THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, AND THAT'S THE FIGURE WAS, AND NOW AS THE COST TO REBUILD GOES UP RIGHT OVER THE YEARS, THAT'S GOING TO GO UP.

RIGHT.

AND AS THE QUESTION IN THE FUTURE THAT I CAN'T ANSWER, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

OKAY.

AND, UM, ALSO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE MOVE TO THE NEW LOCATION, WE CAN GET THE MONEY THAT WAS PAID FOR THAT NEW LOCATION BACK, POSSIBLY.

BUT IF WE DON'T, THERE'S NO GETTING THAT MONEY BACK.

PW HAS BEEN OBLIGATED FOR THE 5,629,009, $86 AND 75 CENTS.

THAT PW WAS, IT WAS THE CITY'S DECISION TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FOUR 20 ALTERNATE PROGRAM.

THERE WAS POSSIBLE MITIGATION OPTIONS, BUT THEY DECIDED THE CITY DECIDED THIS WAS THE BEST OPTION.

SO THERE'S NO OTHER MONEY THAT FEMA IS GOING TO FUND.

I

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ALSO SAID THAT BASICALLY THE CLUSTER REBUILT PER SQUARE FOOT.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S IN THAT SAME PRESENTATION IS OVER 50% MORE IN THE OLD LOCATION.

OKAY.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, IT WAS THE CITY'S DECISION TO RELOCATE.

SO THE COST OF BUILDING IS NOT NOTHING THAT IS ONCE THE CITY MADE THE DECISION TO RELOCATE THE PROJECT ACCORDINGLY.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

BUT IT'S IN THAT REPORT, IT'S IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, IT'S ON THE FEMA.

YOU SAID, WHAT NOW IS ? UM, JUST THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT INFORMATION THAT WE I'M JUST SAYING.

IT DOESN'T REPORT.

THE CITY HAS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION.

AND THAT WAS ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURE.

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND.

THAT WOULD BE ACCORDING TO THE STATION REPORT THAT IT WAS ACCORDING TO THE CITY.

IT WAS ALL THE INFORMATION THEY GOT FROM THE SEAT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

LAST QUESTION.

BEFORE WE GO TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP FOR A WHILE.

NOW, MY NAME IS KATHY, RIGHT.

AND I WANT YOUR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, BUT I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL THE WOMAN BARBARA, UM, THAT WAS ON CALL FOR, EVEN AT THE LAST SHOP WAS VERY, IT WASN'T RIGHT.

BUT, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION SPEAK ABOUT THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF STANLEY WHITE.

UM, WHAT IS, UM, MR. JONES? WHAT IS, MAKE THE WALK AROUND OF NOT AT THE STORAGE, BUT IT WAS IN HIS NAME IN HIS ARM.

HE DIED.

WHAT DID HE MEAN? SOME KIND OF HONOR.

AND IT, BY YOU GETTING RID OF STANDING WHILE YOU'RE GETTING RID OF HIS MEMORY, STANLEY WHITE, BUT FOR US IN THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT, I NEVER HEARD ABOUT THAT.

WHAT'D YOU SAY? OKAY.

WHEREVER, WHEREVER YOU LIKE, HOW FAR FROM THIS AREA DEEP AND LIKE NOT HERE, PEOPLE ASK, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA BE TWO, ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.

WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE? IS IT GOING TO BE SAME THING? OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE MORE TO DEAL WITH, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A SWIMMING POOL, BUT SOME TIME INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO WELL, DO YOU HAVE A FLOOR PLAN ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE BUILDING AS WELL AS WHERE IT WOULD BE LOCATED AND SHOWS THE SIDEWALKS TO THE BUILDING AND ALL OF THAT ON THE LAST SEASON OR THE FIRST SEASON TO TWO BLOCKS, APPROXIMATELY Y'ALL WANT TO ASK US AT THE BACK MEAN.

I MIGHT JUST HAVE A QUESTION THAT ACTUALLY PERTAINS TO YOUR VISIT SO I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

SO AFTER READING THE EXECUTIVE ORDER, 1, 1 9, 8, 8, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY, AS WELL AS FEMA ARE REQUIRED TO RELOCATE A BUILDING OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE, WHENEVER POSSIBLE, IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT A CORRECT ASSUMPTION AS I'M INTERPRETING THAT? OKAY.

SO DOES, DOES THE EXECUTIVE ORDER APPLY TO STANLEY WHITE JIM? SINCE THE CITY OF NEWBURGH HAS PROPERTY ONLY A FEW HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM THE EXISTING FACILITY THAT IS NOT IN THE FLOOD ZONES, DOES THAT NOT MAKE SENSE TO RELOCATE STANLEY WHITE JIM OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE TO PROTECT IT FROM FUTURE DAMAGE? IF WE HAVE ANOTHER CATASTROPHIC STORM, IN YOUR OPINION, AS A FEMALE REPRESENTATIVE, DOES THAT NOT MAKE SENSE WHERE TO US THE NEW LOCATION IS NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, BUT THAT'S, BUT THAT'S MY POINT.

YEAH.

THE CURRENT LOCATION IS, AND I THINK WE'RE PEOPLE ARE GETTING THERE.

THEY'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT, NOT UNDERSTANDING

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THIS, THIS IDEA TO RELOCATE STANLEY WHITE GYM, TO THIS NEW LOCATION, WHICH IS LITERALLY ONLY A FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY, FOUR LOCATIONS.

IT'S STILL GOING TO BE CALLED STANLEY WHITE GYM.

IT'S GOING TO BE A STATE OF THE ART FACILITY.

THEY HAVE ALL THE STUFF BACK, BACK IN THE BACK FOR, FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT.

SO THAT'S AN EXECUTIVE ORDER FEMA HAS TO FOLLOW TO IS THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER.

IT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BY AN EXECUTIVE BOARD.

SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THEY'RE GOING BY THE GUIDANCE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.

YEAH.

AND I THINK ABOUT TO SAY FIRST OFF NOAH, PLEASE BE WITH ME.

CAUSE IT'S A LOT OF TEACHING TO THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW.

ALL Y'ALL IN THIS ROOM, KNOW ME? MOST OF YOU CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME.

OKAY.

CAN I TAKE THIS OFF HERE? YEAH.

I GUESS A LOT OF TEACHING IN THIS ROLE.

OKAY.

JUST TELL US LIKE, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT MORE WHEN I WALK IN SPIRIT, SIT HERE IS NOT GOOD FOR MY SOUL.

LET ME SAY THIS RIGHT HERE, SIR.

RESPECTFULLY.

I DON'T KNOW YOU I'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN YOU IN THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

SO I AM GOING TO SAY THAT RESPECTFULLY, BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT COME HERE, BUT YOU CAN.

I DON'T FEEL IT'S RIGHT TO COME IN HERE.

SO COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WHO'VE LIVED HERE, WHO'VE EXPERIENCED THAT.

TELL THEM WHAT THEY SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT FOR SOMETHING THAT TO THEM DOES HAVE HISTORICAL VALUE, ESPECIALLY IN A CITY WHERE THERE IS NOT MUCH ABOUT IS THAT IS MARKED AS HISTORICAL, EXCEPT FOR THIS BUILDING WE'RE IN, WE ALL NEED TO RESPECT EACH OTHER'S OPINIONS.

EVERYBODY FEELS VERY STRONGLY ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

HE HAS A LOT OF US THAT HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.

WE DID NOT SHOW UP TO THE MEETINGS.

AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS SOME STUFF HAPPENED IN FRONT OF OUR FACES THAT WE DID PAY ATTENTION TO.

I AGREE WITH MS. KATHY, RIGHT? LET'S NOT JUMP ON EACH OTHER, BUT WE ALL ARE ENTITLED TO OUR OPINION.

OKAY? THESE PEOPLE FROM FEMA HAVE NOT BEEN HERE.

WE EVEN HAVE, I'M GONNA BE HONEST.

THEY PROBABLY DON'T FIT WITH Y'ALL BECAUSE EVERYBODY ASKS Y'ALL ALL THE TIME TO COME DOWN BECAUSE THEY DO NOT TRUST THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT WILL HAVE TO.

AND THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY DIRECTLY.

THAT IS NOT DIRECTED AT OLDER MEN BEST I'M SPEAKING, JUST IN GENERAL, THERE HAS BEEN A PROBLEM WITH THIS THAT HAS NOT BEEN TRANSPARENT WITH THIS COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY'S SO SICK.

WHEN THAT LAYER WAS PURCHASED, THERE WAS A MEETING CALL OF COMMUNITY LEADERS HERE TO SAY, WE HAVE THIS IDEA.

WE HAVE THIS IDEA FOR THIS PROPERTY, BUT DID YOU KNOW HOW QUICK THAT PROPERTY SOLD? DID YOU KNOW HOW CLEAN THAT PROPERTY SOLD VERY QUICKLY FOR A WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY? WE WERE TOLD IN THAT MEETING THAT REALLY? BECAUSE FEMA HADN'T COME BACK WITH THE DECISION YET, WHICH Y'ALL, THEY REALLY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO GO AND PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND EXPECT TO RETURN.

NOW, IF I'M LOST, SOMEBODY CALL ME OUT, PROBABLY GOT A TARGET ON THE BACK RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M TELLING HER TOBY SHRINK WILL SET YOU FREE.

HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY DEFENDANT.

AND GOD LIKES THAT.

HE DOESN'T LIKE US BITING EACH OTHER'S HEADS OFF.

LET ME SAY THAT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYBODY.

HOLD ON, GIVE ME THE STRENGTH.

GIVE ME THE STRENGTH.

BUT LET ME TELL YOU THIS.

WHILE WE IN HERE FIGHTING EACH OTHER, YOU SEE THAT MAN STOOD UP AND HE DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE.

NO DISRESPECT.

DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE'S EVER, HAVE YOU EVER REALLY DRIVEN THROUGH HERE? SPENT TIME HERE? NOT YOU, SIR.

NO, NO ME.

YES.

UH, YES.

MA'AM I ACTUALLY HAVE.

I SIT ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR THE CITY.

YOU SIT ON THE PLANNING I'M NOT GOING TO TRANSPARENT.

THAT COMMITTEE THAT WAS CREATED WAS CREATED SO THAT THERE COULD BE SOME INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE RESIDUES.

ONE THING WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON IN THE CITY THAT I THINK FEMA NEEDS TO KNOW IS HOW I RESIDENTS CONTINUE TO INTERACT WITH OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND HOW OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS INTERACT AND ARE TRANSPARENT WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

NOW LET ME TELL YOU THIS.

Y'ALL BE RESPONSIBLE TO SHOW UP THOUGH.

WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TO SHOW UP.

SO AT THIS POINT, I'M SORRY.

THEY DID NOT REALLY LISTEN, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? 95, THE BUILDERS BUILDING NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON? HOW ABOUT MAKE SURE SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES GET THE CONTRACTS, HELLO, COMMUNITY.

AND HE MISS THE COVID AND THAT IS OUR PEOPLE THAT SKIN'S GETTING THE WORK.

HOW ABOUT WE GO GET THAT FOR THE BOLTS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE.

HOW ABOUT WE GO GET OUT OF YOUR PEOPLE TO

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GO OVER HERE AND GO AHEAD AND GET THEIR CERTIFICATIONS, GET OUR BUSINESSES IN ORDER AND PUT IN THAT BIG.

IF I CAN MAKE SOME MINORITY BUSINESS ENTERPRISE STUFF, KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT EACH OTHER AND GO, HEY, I FORGOT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO.

HOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN THEY PUT THAT DOWN, WHEN THEY PUT IT, WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO PUT REVITALIZES THE, UH, TRACK FOR MS. DIRECTOR'S HUSBAND.

HOW ABOUT WE PUT THAT? THEY DO DO TO FEEL THAT THEY PROMISED HOW ABOUT WE START HOLDING OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE AND HE ASKED THAT WE GET TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE WE PUT IN THE RIGHT PEOPLE THERE.

AND LET ME BE CLEAR AS I SPEAK, THIS IS ANTOINETTE.

THIS IS NOT AN ORGANIZATION SHE'S TALKED TO.

THIS IS NOT NOBODY ELSE BUT ME BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE WHOLE PROCESS AND THAT IT ALL, AND I'M TIRED OF IT.

THE COMMENTS.

IF YOU GUYS PLEASE MEET US AT THE BACK AT THE THREE TABLES AT THE BACK ENVIRONMENTALIST FIRST.

WELL, THE CONSISTENCY SUMMITS IN THE MIDDLE AND THE STATE WILL BE AT THE YOU GUYS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN CONTRACTOR RECEIPT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

AND WE DO NEED YOUR INPUT.

SO MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD BEFORE YOU LEAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.