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REDEVELOPMENT, REORGANIZATION,[6:00pm: Welcome and roll call by Tharesa Lee, Chairman.]
WHATEVER IT TAKES, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET IT, TO GET IT DONE.SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR OUR SERVANT.
YOU DON'T WANT IT TO GO ANY FURTHER WITHOUT DOING OUR GUIDE GUIDELINES BECAUSE WE'LL KEEP THOSE IN OUR MINDS AND OUR HEARTS.
SO IF WE COULD GET
PAST PRESENT FUTURE EQUAL TIME.
LISTEN TO BUILD CONSENSUS, SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION, PUBLIC PERCEPTION, STAY FOCUSED.
SO, UH, SO, SO, UH, BUT, UH,
STEVE STRICKLAND, JAMIE BULLETS, MOSLEY WALKER HERE.
ROBBIE MORGAN KEPT PARANOID FEAR.
MARIA SHOW EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS.
KAMISHA HARRIS AND BARBARA BEST.
UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING ON NIGHTCLUB TELLING ME THAT IT'S TAKING PLACE.
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO DO THAT, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
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ITEM THREE IS APPROVAL OF DEMENTIA.SHE RECEIVED THOSE IN YOUR PACKET.
DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS WITH FELICIA? JUST HAVE ONE CORRECTION THAT WE
CAN WE GET A MOTION SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR.
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NUMBER FOUR.SO THE DRAFT WAS IN THE PACKET, UM, BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING THAT, UH, JUST REALLY WANTED MORE CLARIFICATION ON WHAT MINIMUM MEANT AND, UM, HOW EXISTING MOBILE HOMES OR MANUFACTURED HOMES ACTUALLY I HAVE TO CALL THEM CAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY DECLINED, UM, HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE TREATED.
SO WHAT I DID, I JUST REALLY ADDED THE UNDERLINED IS ADDED.
UM, AND IT'S STILL, THERE WERE STILL SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS I'VE FOUND.
AND I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY TO SAY.
UM, SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY IDEAS ON HOW TO EXPLAIN WHAT A MINIMUM IS THAT IT'S NOT A MAXIMUM MOM OPEN, SAY SOMETHING LIKE, UM, LOTS IN, AND I KNOW IT'S MORE WORDS, BUT IN OUR SEX CAN BE 6,000 FEET CAN BE AS MUCH AS 6,000 FEET OR AS SMALL AS, AS LARGE AS SUCCESS AND AS SMALL AS 1500, MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP THEM SO THAT
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THEY KNOW IT'S A RANGE, A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE.WELL, WHATEVER THAT, SO THERE'S NO LIMIT, THERE'S NO LIMIT, BUT THERE'S A MINIMUM.
SO MAYBE YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, LOTS CAN BE, YOU KNOW, TO BE OF ANY SIZE CAN BE NO LESS THAN IT IS.
WELL, IT IT'S PROBLEMATIC IF YOU DON'T DEAL IN THIS WORLD, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU, AMY, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
MY LANGUAGE OR THE, MY, WHEN YOU CAME UP WITH THE LANGUAGE, WHICH PART? THE MANUFACTURED HOME.
WE JUST OPENED THE ITEM WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGE.
AND THAT FIRST CHANGE WAS EXPLAINING THAT A MINIMUM IS NOT A MAX MANUFACTURED HOMES AS DEFINED IN SECTION BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, AND IT WITH THEM.
THIS PROHIBITION DOES NOT INCLUDE MODULAR HOMES.
THAT SECTION ALL EXISTING MOBILE HOME SHALL BE SUBJECT TO PROFESSIONAL.
AND THAT IS A NON-CONFORMANCE SITUATION.
NON-FARMING SECTION OF THE CODE.
I THINK THE SECOND OR THIRD SENTENCE, ALL EXISTING MOBILE HOME SHALL BE SUBJECT TO AS A POINT OF CLARITY.
AND AGAIN, IN DRAFTING, A LAW LESS IS MORE HOWEVER, IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE, ALL EXISTING MOBILE HOME SHELL, I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD GRANDFATHER.
I DON'T WANT TO USE THAT WORD BECAUSE WE REALLY HANDLE EVERYTHING IN THAT SECTION.
SO THERE'S FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT TYPES OF NONCONFORMITIES AND GRANDFATHERING REALLY ISN'T PART OF IT.
SINCE WE PURPOSEFULLY CHANGED MOBILE TO MANUFACTURER THE TWO OTHER PLACES, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO LEAVE MOBILE IN THE ADDITIONAL SENTENCE OR DOES THAT NEED TO BE MANUFACTURED AS WELL? EVERYTHING SHOULD BE MANUFACTURED.
WHERE IS THAT? WHEREAS IN THE RED, IT SAYS ALL EXISTING STRIKE MOBILE.
LET ME GET OUT OF HOME ON CASE NAME.
I'M GOING TO LEAVE SOME FOR THE MINUTES OH, OKAY.
SO, SO MY THOUGHTS ON THE LAST SENTENCE, IN ADDITION TO STRIKING BALDWIN'S SUBSTITUTING MANUFACTURED EXISTING, AS OF WHAT DATE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE ONCE THIS IS ADOPTED, THAT WOULD THAT'S THE PROCESS, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT IN THAT'S PART OF THE ART THAT'S PART OF THE LANGUAGE WHEN IT'S ADOPTED THE RESOLUTION TO THE BOARD, CLARIFIES THAT.
I THINK THAT IN ADDITION TO THE RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD, THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO MAKE THIS AS CRYSTAL CLEAR AS POSSIBLE SO THAT SOMEBODY WHO'S READING THIS SUBSET, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO THEN GO TO THE RESOLUTION TO TRY TO
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EXISTING AS OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS SUBSECTION.MANUFACTURED HOME SHELL, EXISTING MOBILE HOME MANUFACTURED HOME AS OF, OR BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO THIS SUBSECTION INSTEAD.
LET ME, LET ME WORK THROUGH IT.
COME BACK WITH SCOTT, PICK IT UP.
I THINK, I THINK IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT TIGHT, BUT LET'S GO COCK
IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE A TRIGGER THAT THERE'S NO LIMIT ON THAT.
THE HEAR COMPLETE PRECLUDES EXCEEDED STANDARDS, PULL UP.
THE STANDARD REPRESENT THE MINIMUM AND NOTHING COULD CLOSE YOU.
SEEING THE EXCEEDING THOSE STANDARDS
WOULDN'T BE HELPFUL, BUT IT'S SMALLEST NEXT A MINIMUM.
I MEAN, WHAT WAS THE ISSUE WITH MORE? SOME MAY IMAGINE THAT THEY HAVEN'T, THERE WAS SOME, WELL, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN PRESENTED IN THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE AIMING FOR AND THAT'S THE NEW REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS NOT AT ALL THE WAY I READ IT.
ONE MINIMUM IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT WORD, BUT LET'S JUST SAY THAT SOME, A READER GLANCES PAST MINIMUM, AND IT'S COMMON, MEANING FOR SOME REASON, I THINK THE NEXT SENTENCE, NOTHING HERE AROUND FOR CLUES EXCEEDING THE STANDARDS.
I THINK THAT THAT EXPRESSES AGAIN, THAT THIS IS A MINIMUM.
SO WE HAVE THREE SENTENCES AT SOME POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROVE A MINIMUM.
I MEAN, FROM A NEGATIVE, I MEAN, YEAH.
I GUESS KNOW HOW YOU MANAGE THE PERCEPTION THAT IT IS A RELIEF MEASURE AND NOT A STANDARD OR A RULE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR BOUNDARY MAY, I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR A LONG ENOUGH TIME TO KNOW THAT YOU NEED RELIEF FROM SOMEONE A LOT FIVE FAVORABLE THING THAT WE'RE DOING AND NOT A NEGATIVE THING.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE COULD FURTHER A SWING TO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN AN EFFORT TO PROVIDE MORE OR PROVIDE HOUSES.
WELL, THAT'S IN THE PLAN AND WE KNOW THAT, BUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE RULES FOR THE PLAN, THAT'S WHERE THE IDEA SO THAT IF YOU WANT YOUR GRANDMOTHER AND YOU WANT YOUR MOTHER TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO YOU, YOU CAN TAKE THAT LOT AND STILL BUILD A LITTLE HOUSE AND CONFORM.
I THINK CONTEXT CERTAINLY IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH, UM, OF THE VIRGINIAN THAT, THAT TYPE OF CONTEXT ISN'T NECESSARILY USEFUL IN THE CODE LANGUAGE ITSELF.
I KNOW WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OFTEN WHEN THEY CREATE LEGISLATION, THERE'S A LEGISLATIVE HISTORY THAT ACCOMPANIES IT AND THAT LEGISLATIVE HISTORY OFTEN ILLUSTRATES THE MOTIVES AND THE DISCUSSIONS AND THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT ILLUMINATES WHY THE LANGUAGE IS WHAT IT IS AND MAYBE WHY IT IS NOT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS CONTEXT TO HAVE MAYBE NOT A LEGISLATIVE HISTORY, BUT SOMETHING ANALOGIES OR THIS PARTICULAR POST, BUT EVEN WITH ALL OF THAT EFFORT THERE NORMALLY STILL HAS TO BE SOMETHING PUBLISHED IN AN ADMINISTRATIVE CODE TO FURTHER CLARIFY, I BEAT THIS THING AROUND IN THE, PUBLIC'S GOING TO READ, PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THIS OTHER THAN POTENTIAL DEVELOPER OR BUILDER WHO WILL UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE THAT.
THAT'S THE THOUGHT OR NOT EVERYBODY, ALL
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WE HEARD WAS ELVIS WAS SO YEAH.UM,
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
BUT I THINK THE GENERAL PUBLIC MAY NEVER KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
AND BEYOND WHAT WE'RE SAYING, THERE'S NOTHING HERE IN PRECLUDES EXCEEDING THE STANDARDS, BUT YEAH, BELOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE SHE WENT OVER MY IDENTIFICATION.
SO WHEN THAT CITIZEN ASKS ME A QUESTION, I CAN UNDERSTAND IT PRIOR TO THIS CHANGE.
WHAT WAS THE MINIMUM 25? IT'S $6, 6,000.
SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING LESS THAN 6,000.
YOU CAN HAVE A 1500, FOUR TOWNHOMES ATTACHED STRUCTURE IN THE 1500 DETACHED TO 6,000.
BEING ABLE TO HAVE CORRECT SMALLER HOUSES ON THE LOT, ESSENTIALLY TWO OR THREE HOUSES UNBLOCKED VERSUS ONCE A.
SO NOW WITH, UH, WITH THE TOWNHOME DESIGN, WITH SHARED WALLS, YOU COULD DO THAT.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS ABOUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND YOU HAD THE BEST EXAMPLE, YOU'VE BUILD UP TO HAVE A SMALL LOT WITH THAT.
YOU DO, MOTHER-IN-LAW GRANDPARENTS, SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S SO MUCH THAT FAMILY, ESSENCE OF THE COMMUNITY WHERE, UM, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN.
I HAVE A QUESTION CAUSE I'M NOT IN THE DEVELOPMENTAL WORLD.
IF SOMEBODY ACQUIRED A LOT AND WANTED TO BUILD A STRUCTURE ON A VACANT LOT, IS THERE A PERMITTING PROCESS WHEREIN THAT INDIVIDUAL OR CORPORATION WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY FOR SOME TYPE OF PERMISSION AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
IT WOULD BE VIRTUALLY AUTOMATIC AS LONG AS THEY MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS.
ALL RIGHT, LOOK
THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE, I THINK FAIR CRITICISM THAT THIS POTENTIAL POLICY LANGUAGE HAS RECEIVED THAT I THINK OF FEAR IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME BOOGEYMAN COME IN AND BUY A BUNCH OF LIGHTS AND DIVIDE THEM UP IN THESE TEENY TINY LIGHTS AND CREATE LITTLE SLUMPS ON A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT LOTS.
AND I DON'T JUST THINKING THIS THROUGH POSING THIS AS A POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVE TO ADD THAT ANY BUILDING ANY CONSTRUCTION IS STILL SUBJECT TO THE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS IN SUBSECTION BLANK, BECAUSE I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SOMEBODY EXPLOITING THIS MINIMUM.
AND TO SAY THAT THERE'S ANOTHER, BECAUSE THERE IS ANOTHER MEASURE, MEASURE OF PROTECTION FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ARTICULATE THAT IN THIS POLICY LANGUAGE, I THINK MAYBE SOME MORE KIDS THERE'S NO, TH THERE ISN'T THE OTHER, IF THIS IS LIKE, IT IS, THERE IS NO OTHER LAYER OF PROTECTION.
IF IT MAKES, IF THEY DIVIDED IT UP IN 15 CREDITS, 25 FOOT WIDE LOSS, THEN I CAN GET A PERMIT FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING 70 MINIMUM, RIGHT.
MINIMUM OF 70,000 AND $8,000 TO BUILD A SMALL HOUSE MINIMUM.
THAT'S PROBABLY MORE THAN THAT.
I DON'T KNOW ANY SLUMLORDS THAT ARE GOING TO PUT DOWN A HALF, A MILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD SLUMPS.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AS LONG AS GO IN AND BUY THE $15,000 HOUSE AND PUT PEOPLE IN IT UNTIL IT FALLS IN ON ITSELF.
AND THEN THEY GO BUY ANOTHER $15,000 HOUSE.
SOMEONE WAS DON'T BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION, RARELY.
I MEAN, I THINK FOR PURPOSES OF CLEARLY DEMONSTRATING THAT A MINIMUM IS NOT A MAXIMUM.
I THINK THAT THAT LANGUAGE IS SUFFICIENT IS MY YEAH.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS OF THE 15 TO 10, THE FIVE, THE SAME THING IF, IF THEY WERE USING THE 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO THAT SET BACK IS ONLY IN REGARDS TO A 50,000 SQUARE FOOT WALL.
SO YOU COULD HAVE A 25,000 SQUARE FOOT LOG AND HAVE A 15 FOOT FENCE.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT, I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A 25 FOOT LOT AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FRONT SET BACK 50 FEET.
IS THAT REASONABLE? UM, IT MAKES A SMALL BUILDING ENVELOPE.
NOW KEEP IN MIND THERE ISN'T A HOUSE THAT'S 15 TO BACK FROM THE STREET AND UP FIELD.
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SO EVEN 15 MONTHS SOUNDS QUIET TO BE 15 BECAUSE THERE YOU WOULD WANT IT TO BE 15 BECAUSE THERE WAS ALSO A REQUIREMENT FOR ONE OFF STREET PARKING.EVEN WITH THAT
I DON'T THINK, I MEAN THE 20, THAT 1500 MINIMUM WAS GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO DO.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGES I THINK, TO GET THERE AND WHY DO IT, BECAUSE WHY, WHY WOULD WE NOT HAVE RESPONDED? I MEAN, WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
I JUST LOOK ACROSS THE STREET.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PERFECT EXAMPLE.
CAN I HAVE PERMISSION TO YOU? ANY QUOTES BEFORE WE MOVE ON? NO.
NO, I IT'S BEEN VERY USEFUL DISCUSSION.
SO I GONNA WAIT A LITTLE BIT, HUH? BOUNCE SOME LANGUAGE BACK AND FORTH OR WHAT? ALL RIGHT.
IS THAT OKAY IF HE JUST IN THE FRONT OF THAT SENTENCE OR THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, JUST SAYS, ADD AS A BLANK AND PUT YOUR DATA IN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DAVID ADOPTION OR WHATNOT.
UM, OH, JUST YOUR MOBILE HOME SHOW YOU SUBJECT TO THE PROVISION TOMORROW AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, WHICH IS A, NON-CONFORMING THE PART THAT I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH IS THE CHUBBY SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF ARTICLE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A CLEARER WAY TO COMMUNICATE TO A LAY PERSON.
AND JUST LIKE, AS THE SAME THING, WHEN YOU ASKED ABOUT PERMITTING AND ALL THAT STUFF, ALL OF THAT HAPPENS IRRESPECTIVE OF IT BEING RIGHT.
AND THAT, AND THAT HAPPENS EVERY DAY.
SAME THING WITH NON-PERFORMING SITUATIONS.
AS SOON AS THE RULE CHANGES, NONCOMPLIANT, THE ARTICLE, A CONTROLS, HOW YOU DEAL WITH CHANGES, SITUATIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE MADE NON-CONFORMING BY A CHANGE IN THE WORLD, CERTAINLY PUTTING THE DATA IN IS REDUNDANT.
WELL, AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF NECESSARY THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE, BECAUSE I THINK BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONTROVERSY, BECAUSE OF ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, BECAUSE OF THE LARGE OUTCRY FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CRAFT LANGUAGE WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN MIND TO TRY OUR BEST, TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS, TO THE EXTENT THAT AS, WHEREAS IN MOST ORDINARY PLANNING LANGUAGE, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT CONSIDERATION IN THE SAME VOLUME.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE CAUSE FOR MUCH LONGER ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE TO ALL EXISTING MOBILE HOMES.
WELL, I MEAN, WHAT I GET AGAIN, THERE'S NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL OR NONCONFORMING USES.
THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF HOW THINGS OCCUR AND WHAT YOU CAN DO IN DINA TO AVE AND THE REMEDIES TO BACK, WHICH MAKES IT REALLY HARD TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN TO SAY THE ARTICLE CONFORMING SITUATION DREAMING YOU WOULD GO TO, UH, IT'S EVERYTHING BECAUSE THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING, TRYING TO RACK MY BRAIN TO THINK OF ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS ESCAPING ME IN THIS MOMENT.
I THINK I CAN LIVE WITH THE, AS OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS SUBSECTION ON THIS PARTICULAR DAY, ALL OF THIS MANUFACTURED HOME ARTICLE.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ISLAND FIVE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK.
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WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU ALL FOR WORKING ON YOUR COMMUNITIES.[00:25:01]
HAS BEEN DILIGENT IN WORKING WITH THIS COMMUNITIES AND HE HAS OFF AS WE ASKED YOU IN OUR LAST MEETING.SO, UH, HE, UH, THEY PUT YOU, IF YOU ARE NOT WORKING ON STUFF COULD GET IN THE ASS, GET ON, UM, BECAUSE WE NEED EVERYBODY TO BE ON ANY COMMITTEE AND CONTINUOUSLY WORK, BUT REALLY THAT'S HOW MANDA AND JEFF, UM, THROUGH THE HOUSE, THROUGH THE HOUSE AND REPORT, WE WERE OUT IN THE FIELD, UM, TO DATE WITH THAT.
SO THEN WE HAD A HEALTH CALL TWO DAYS A WEEK.
SO JEFF, I'LL START WITH THE OVERVIEW.
AND THEN AGAIN, THE DETAILS OF WHAT HAPPENED.
SO THERE'S BEEN TWO MEETINGS WITH THE COMMITTEE ON THE 16TH AND THE 29TH OF JUNE, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON, YOU KNOW, WHERE TO BEGAN, HOW TO, HOW TO GET, YOU KNOW, HOW TO GET MOVING.
UM, KIND OF SETTLED ON AN IDEA THAT, UM, THE AREA SOUTH OF BROAD STREET WOULD BE BEST AT THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE AND THESE NEEDS, OR ANY KIND OF STRUCTURE THAT PURCHASE AND REHAB THE, OF THE COMMISSION PURCHASES AND ARENA, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SERVE KIND OF A DUAL PURPOSE AND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOUSING, UM, LOW, MODERATE INCOME FOLKS, BUT ALSO COULD ACTUALLY BE AN AREA WHERE IF WE HAD TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE LOCATE SOMEBODY, THAT RELOCATION HAS TO BE OUTSIDE THE FLOOD ZONE.
SO IT WAS JUST EASIER FOR US TO FOCUS IN, ON AREAS THAT ARE ALL OUTSIDE THE FLOOD ZONE, WHICH IS THERE IS.
SO FROM THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, THIS PROPERTY HERE AT 10, 10, 23 FOLLOW STREET, UM, CAME INTO THE CONVERSATION, UM, THERESA MYSELF, DHO MATT BALL AS WELL THOUGH, KEEP BUILDING INSPECTOR WENT AND TOOK A LOOK AT IT, UM, ON THE 19TH OF JUNE.
AND, UH, AN OFFER WAS EXTENDED.
I THINK ON THE 2ND OF JULY, YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT ALL THAT STUFF.
WE DID RECEIVE A OFFER, I BELIEVE ON MONDAY, AMANDA.
AND IT WAS, SO OUR OFFER WAS A 25,000 THAT 120 DAY DUE DILIGENCE IS A LITTLE WRONG.
IT'S 90 DAYS DUE DILIGENCE, 30 DAYS TO CLOSE.
UM, THEIR COUNTER WAS 35 WITH 60 DAYS TO CLOSE.
UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT HERE AS A GROUP ON HOW THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE.
I'M US, JIMMY, THAT YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO ANY QUESTIONS? UM,
DID YOU GET THE EMAIL ON, OR YOU DIDN'T JUST LET ME RUN THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK.
UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE FOCUSED ON NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP, THREE MEETINGS WITHOUT JUNE 17TH OF THE FIRST JULY IN THE EIGHTH, WE BROKE UP THE AREA AND ESSENTIALLY 12 SMALLER AREAS OF THE FOCUS IN CLEANUP AREAS.
THIS FIRST ONE WAS RELATIVELY FAMILIAR TO YOU ALL.
IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO FOCUS AREA ONE, BUT IT WAS THE AREA THE GROUP WANTED TO FOCUS ON FIRST.
UM, SO THAT'S THE AREA THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH.
WE, UH, WALKED THROUGH THE COMMUNITY THREE SEPARATE TIMES.
UH, ONE TIME THAT MONTANA DIDN'T US ACCOMPANIED US, UM, JUST TO DISCUSS LOGISTICAL ISSUES AND RELATED TO THE TIMING OF THE TYPE OF CLEANUP.
AT THAT TIME, WE WERE GOING TO DO A COMMUNITY TYPE CLEANUP ON A, ON THE THURSDAY, UM, THE 60 AND THEN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WAS AN UNCOMMON ON THE 17TH AND DO ANOTHER CLEAN UP THROUGH, AND CUT BACK ALL THE WEEDS AND DEBRIS AND, AND WHATNOT.
UM, HAVE A COUPLE OF ROLL-OFF DUMPSTERS THERE WHERE PEOPLE CAN DUMP THEIR, UM, REGULAR TRASH, WHITE GOODS AND OTHER TYPES OF DEBRIS IN THERE.
UM, AND, AND AFTER DISCUSSION THAT FINALIZING THAT WELL, THE GOVERNOR WENT BACK, I GUESS, UH, INTO, UH, A PHASE WHERE WE WERE IN PHASE THREE AND PHASE TWO, I MEAN, OLD PHASE RIGHT NOW, BUT EVERYONE HAS TO WEAR MASKS.
WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD KIND OF A BARBECUE AFTERWARDS, YOU KNOW, TO CELEBRATE THE EFFORTS.
UH, SO TAKING A STEP BACK COVID WISE, WE KIND OF PUT A HALT ON THAT THE GROUP GOT TOGETHER TO DISCUSS WHAT WE WANTED TO DO MOVING FORWARD.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP IS PUT ON HOLD, BUT WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD.
WE WERE OUT THERE AGAIN TODAY, THE GROUP, UH, WALKING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO WE'RE, THE PUBLIC WORKS IS ESSENTIALLY GOING TO DO THE CLEAN UP NOW AND NEXT FRIDAY.
UM, I'LL BE OUT THERE AT THE BAR, THE OUT THERE PROBABLY BE OUT THERE.
ANYONE ELSE CAN COME BY TOO, BUT WE'LL JUST
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BE KIND OF COORDINATING THE EFFORT TIME ON THE BOOK OR YOU COME, ALL RIGHT, YOU'LL BE OUT THERE TOO.HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE A DIFFERENT SET OF FOLKS INTO, I HAVE A QUESTION JEFF, WHERE INDIVIDUALS COULD PLACE A TRASH AND THINGS AT ANY COST TO THE CITIZENS.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE DUMPSTER THIS TIME.
IT'S GOING TO BE, WE OWN THIS LOT RIGHT HERE.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO STICK IT ON THAT.
UM, THAT LOT WILL BE AVAILABLE FROM THURSDAY EVENING TO MONDAY AFTERNOON, UM, FOR USE OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE'LL BE IN THERE.
PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE IN THEIR, UH, USING IT, THE DEBRIS AND THE LEAVES AREN'T GOING TO BE IN THERE.
UM, THE, THE YARD WASTE, UM, NEW YARD DEBRIS AND THE LEAVES AND WHATNOT ARE GOING TO BE HAULED OFF ONSITE AS SOON AS THEIR CUTS.
THEN WHEN WE PUT IN, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THE LEAF AND LIMB ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.
UM, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON, UM, ON FRIDAY NOW.
SO IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE OF A COMMUNITY THING.
NOW IT'S JUST A, REALLY A CITY THING, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE CUTTING BACK LAMBS AND WE WALKED DOWN CRAWFORD STREET.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING A LOT IN, ON THIS AREA OVER HERE AND UP IN HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF OLDER GRILL BACKS THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT, BUT SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THAT'S GOING TO HIT THAT'S HAPPENING NEXT FRIDAY.
SO THAT'S THE UPDATES THERE AS ANY QUESTIONS GO TO MARIA AND THEY'RE VERY DEEP GOING BACK TO THE RURAL OPTOMETRIST.
HOW DO THEY COMMUNITY MEMBERS KNOW ABOUT IT? YOU MENTIONED THAT WE'VE JUST BEEN OUT THERE.
I'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOUR TIMES.
I'M JUST TALKING TO EVERYBODY, LETTING THEM KNOW.
SO ONCE WE ACTUALLY TALKED TO A GROUP, A GROUP OF GUYS TODAY TOLD THEM WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT, THEY ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED PUTTING IT THERE.
SO IT WAS LIKE, YEAH, LET ME MAKE SURE WE OWN THAT.
UM, SO THEY'RE KIND OF EXPECTING IT, BUT I'LL BE OUT THERE, UM, LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHATEVER UP AND PUT IT WITH THE WORD ON THE STREET THERE, DON'T FILL IT UP WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, GARBAGE TOYS.
I MEAN, DON'T FILL UP THE LEAVES AND WHATNOT, BUT JUST THROW ALL YOUR JUNK IN THERE FOR SURE.
WE MET A LOT OF GUYS THAT WERE ALREADY DOING THE CLEANUP OUT THERE NOW BEING UP TO NEIGHBORHOOD.
I NOTICE A LOT OF SECOND, SECOND LOOKS A LOT BETTER THAN IT HAS IN A WHILE.
AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S A COUPLE OF GUYS THAT ARE JUST CLEANING UP EVERYTHING.
THEY SEE SO MANY OF THESE OUT THERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE PICKING UP TRASH NOW MORE THAN MORE THAN THEY HAVEN'T.
I'LL JUST, I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE IT, SO I WASN'T SURE HOW TO WORK WITH THE PROCESS.
SO WE MET, UM, SO FAR THREE TIMES THE FIRST TIME WAS ON JUNE 18TH.
UM, THAT WAS JUST OUR SMALL SUBCOMMITTEE HERE.
UM, JOHN, CAN YOU HEAR YOU? OKAY, GREAT.
UM, SO WE HAD THE INTRODUCTORY READING, UH, BASICALLY REVIEWED WHAT WAS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHAT OUR GOALS WERE.
UM, I THEN APPLIED SOME OF THE PARTNERS, TALKED ABOUT PLUMMETING.
UM, AFTER THAT MEETING, I WENT HOME AND LOOKED AT THE, UM, THE CMC AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT IN 2018.
UH, AND THESE ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT KIND OF JUMPED OUT STRONGLY, THE PARTICIPANTS AND ASSERTED THAT THEY DID, UM, THAT WERE USING THE COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH ACCESS TO CARE WAS AN ISSUE.
AND OF COURSE MY, UM, DISEASE PREVENTION.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WOULD GATHER, UM, DATA, UH, AT THAT POINT.
UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THIS IS YOU'VE GOT, UM, PEOPLE HAVE INCREASE IN CASES LIKE TOWN HALLS, LISTENING SESSIONS, HEALTH FAIRS, THOSE THINGS WERE DONE IN THE PAST, UM, PROVIDED COMMUNITY HEALTH SCREENS, UM, TO IDENTIFY CHRONIC DISEASES.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SEE, UM, THAT WE'D GO TO USEFUL IN THE INTERIM BEFORE BUILDING THE, UM, THE, THE CENTER AND THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
SO THINGS THAT WE CAN DO NOW ON JUNE 25TH.
UM, AND BEFORE THAT, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ALDERMAN BENGAL, UM, AND JEFF, SHE HAD MENTIONED THAT, UM, MR. JONES REZ JONES, UH, WAS, YOU KNOW, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT HEALTH CARE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND SO HE HAD TIES TO MARK CROWN AND ESSENTIAL UNIVERSITY, WHICH WAS AWESOME.
AND SO I GOT, AND WE HAD, UM, ALL THE WOMEN MANGO GUYS IN TOUCH WITH, UH, JASMINE, UH, I THINK IT'S 50 YET.
I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU PRONOUNCE HER NAME AND DR.
AND THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE ON THE CALL.
IT WAS, IT WAS A DIFFICULT PHONE CALL THAT THERE WERE SO MANY OF US AND IT WAS HARD TO HEAR AT TIMES, BUT I WAS ABLE TO PATCH IT TOGETHER.
AND, UM, SO THERE WAS A GREAT THING BECAUSE I FOUND OUT I GOT SOME
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USEFUL INFORMATION.LIVINGSTON SAID, WHO'S ACTUALLY A PSYCHOLOGIST AT NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY.
AND, UM, JESS HAVE DONE, THEY'VE WORKED IN OTHER COUNTIES AND OTHER PLACES IN EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND HAD SUCCESS WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, DATA COLLECTION, UM, YOU KNOW, HEALTH ASSESSMENTS AND PROVIDING AND FINDING OUT WHAT THE BARRIERS ARE AND THEN PROVIDING, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING GOOD OUTCOMES FOR THE LONG-TERM GOALS AND PLANNING.
SO THE NEXT STEP THAT WE DECIDED DURING THAT, UM, THAT CONVERSATION WAS THAT WE WOULD, UM, MOTIVATE, WE WOULD FOLLOW UP THE CONVERSATION, UM, IN A SMALLER GROUP, UH, INCLUDING, UH, JASMINE AGAIN, DR.
UM, TODAY WE HAD A PHONE CALL, A ZOOM MEETING ON JULY 8TH THAT WAS TODAY.
AND, UH, THEY WERE PRESENT AS IN, ALONG WITH THE STAFF.
SO THEY HAD A GREAT SUPPORT STAFF THERE, HIS ASSISTANT, AND ALSO, UM, ANOTHER YOUNG WOMAN WHO DOES, I GUESS, SOME OF THE TRANSCRIPTION AND KEEPING A MINUTE.
SO WE'LL HAVE THIS DOCUMENTED, BUT WE HAD REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION.
THEY ASKED US WHAT WE WERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION, CAUSE THAT WAS DIFFICULT TO DO ON THE LAST PHONE CALL BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED.
SO WE TOLD THEM, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR GOAL WAS, THE LONG-TERM GOAL AND POLICIES THAT WE DEVELOPED, UM, FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS, INCLUDING, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OF A FEDERALLY QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER.
AND, UM, AGAIN, THE COVID ISSUE CAME UP WITH GATHERING INFORMATION AND THAT'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER TALKING TO US AND FINDING OUT WHAT WE WERE THINKING OF, UM, YOU KNOW, DR.
LINDSAY SIN AND, UM, AND JASMINE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT INITIAL EFFORT.
AND I HAD TALKED TO HER ONE-ON-ONE THE WEEK BEFORE, UM, ABOUT DOING SOMETHING COVID RELATED.
SO THEY SUGGESTED THE NEXT THING THAT WE WOULD WORK ON WOULD BE HAVING, UM, A SOCIAL MEDIA, A WAY TO HAVE A COVID EDUCATION SESSION FOR PEOPLE AND, UM, IN THE BIG DEVELOPMENT AREA.
AND WE, WE DO THAT BY PARTNERING WITH PEOPLE THAT IN THE COMMUNITY, TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT, UM, VIA SOCIAL MEDIA, DETERMINE WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM.
YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ASKING ME TO FACEBOOK, TWITTER, UM, AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.
SO THEY WILL DO A SURVEY ONCE WE GET THOSE NAMES TO THEM AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
AND, UM, AND LET ME JUST READ TO SEE WHAT THE PARTNERS FOR.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE PANEL OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE TALKING ABOUT COVID WE OF COURSE, NEED TO BE ABLE TO MEDICAL PROVIDERS, UM, FROM THE HOSPITAL, UM, NURSES, PSYCHOLOGISTS, BECAUSE DR.
AND, UH, WHAT WOULD WE TALK ABOUT WOULD BE HOW TO, YOU KNOW, BASIC THINGS LIKE SAME SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW TO CLEAN SURFACES, UM, PROPER MASK WEARING, IDENTIFY MS. FACTORS.
SO, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD INTRO FOR US AS A, YOU KNOW, AS A SUBCOMMITTEE AND FOR THE COMMISSION TO KIND OF GET TO KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT.
AND, UM, AND I DO SOMETHING THAT'S VERY PREVALENT OR IRRELEVANT NOW.
SO, UM, AND THEN WE ALSO ON THE SECOND, UM, LIKE SIDE IS, WE'D HAVE ANOTHER SUB COMMITTEE OF MEMBERS THAT WOULD COMPILE WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, RESIDENTS, CHURCHES, HOUSING, AUTHORITY, PARKS, AND REC, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, RESIDENT, ASSOCIATION LEADERS, COMMUNITY MOTHERS, SCHOOLS TO HELP.
LIVINGSTON'S, UH, SUGGESTION WOULD TO GET A LIST OF THOSE PEOPLE.
SO WHEN WE START GATHERING DATA AND HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE SURVEY VIA, AND HE WAS THINKING SMALL FOCUS GROUPS VIA SOCIAL SOCIAL MEDIA IN ORDER TO START GETTING INFORMATION ON HOW TO, UM, DETERMINE WHAT THE BARRIERS ARE AND HOW WE CAN START WORKING THROUGH THOSE.
UM, I ALSO WENT ONLINE LAST NIGHT, JUST AS AN ASIDE AND LOOKED UP, UM, THE KIDS DID A QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE A ADVANCED PRACTICE NURSES, PHYSICIANS, AND, UM, THAT ADDRESSED THE SAME THINGS THAT I MENTIONED, UH, FUNDING NEEDS, ASSESSMENT, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, OB GYN, PRIMARY CARE, UM, AND CRIME DISEASE PREVENTION EDUCATION.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE IN THE FUTURE CAN GO AND MAYBE TALK TO THEM, SEE WHAT THEIR FACILITY HAVE YOU BEEN HERE? HAS ANYBODY COME HERE? OKAY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE WE CAN DO AS WELL AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT.
DOES THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT HERE, BUT, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION, MARIA, UM, CAUSE YOU TALKING ABOUT, UM, DATA COLLECTION.
DO WE KNOW WHETHER THE CRAVEN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT KEEPS ANY OF THAT DATA? YEAH, THEY HAVE IT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS, UM, THAT'S WHAT THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS.
SO YES, THEY DO DO THAT AND THEY HAVE MORE BECAUSE WHEN I WENT TO SPEAK TO HIM, EVEN WHEN WE PRESENTED THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO MR. HOUSE.
AND THEY'VE HAD, THEY'VE HAD HAD SOME SUCCESS WITH PROGRAMMING, BUT IT'S NOT CONSISTENT.
AND I THINK WHEN I WENT BACK TO THE CNI AND I MENTIONED IT TODAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BEST RESULTS COME FROM WHEN WE COME TO YOU.
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AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO START WORKING ON, UM, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, SMALL AND THEN TO BE HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH CENTER THERE.AND I THINK THAT I DIDN'T GET TO ASK THE QUESTION TODAY BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD HALF AN HOUR, BUT I AM INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, FIGURING OUT EXACTLY HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THEIR INFORMATION.
THIS IS THE CCU, YOU KNOW, AND HOW THEY WORKED FROM THAT, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IT, IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME ISSUE AS IT'S BARRIERS TO HEALTH CARE AND CHRONIC DISEASE PREVENTION, UM, YOU KNOW, HYPERTENSION, DIABETES, ESPECIALLY THE COVID THING CAME UP BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSSED THIS IN THE PAST, HOW, YOU KNOW, THAT COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE WORKING IN IS VULNERABLE.
AND WE HAVE TO REALLY, THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO START OFF THAT WAY.
AND I THINK IT WAS SORT OF A DIALOGUE DISCUSSION.
SO YEAH, I WAS, I WAS EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND THEY'RE VERY EASY TO WORK WITH.
UM, SO THAT THAT'S A PLUS, SO THAT'S IT.
I HAVE RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GOOD BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.
THEY THEY'RE CHARGED TO GO OUT AND DO THIS KIND OF RESEARCH.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS WHAT WAS MENTIONED.
WE HAVE TO FORM PARTNERSHIPS WHEN I BECAME TO ME, I DIDN'T WANT THIS TO JEMEZ TO GO OFF IN HIS OWN DIRECTION.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
EVERYBODY HAS GOT THESE GREAT IDEAS AND WE NEED TO TRY TO CORRAL THEM AND WORK TOGETHER AS A UNIT AND KNOW, HARNESS THAT ENERGY FOR THE GREATER GOOD, RATHER THAN INDIVIDUAL LITTLE MILESTONES TO KEEP HIM OR SPOKE TO YOU.
UM, I SPOKE TO THEY AFTER I CALLED HER AFTER OUR ZOOM MEETING.
AND SO WE WERE JUST TALKING OUT, JUST DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, BREAKING IT DOWN.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS SUBCOMMITTEE WILL DEFINITELY BE MORE PEOPLE AT SOME POINTS TOO, CAUSE IT'S, IT HAS TO BE FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE.
THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AS A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, THAT NEED DEPARTMENT WITH US.
SO WE ARE GOING TO DETERMINE HOW TO DO THAT NEXT.
UM, AND ALSO GET, THEY WANT TO START THIS.
THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE THIS IN THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST, THIS PRESENTATION ON PROBATE, UH, BEFORE SCHOOL GETS BACK, WHICH MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
AND I THINK THE OTHER POSITIVE THING WITH BEING WITH ACADEMIA WITH THE NCC VIEW IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, UM, THEY'RE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION I'LL ASK, SEEK AND RESOURCES THAT THEY CAN FUND IT.
SO HE HAPPENED TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE AND ONE OF THE COUNTIES THAT HE WAS WORKING IN, OR ONE OF THE TOWNS, WAS IT HALIFAX OR GROWNUP THAT THEY NEEDED.
IT CAME OUT IN THE LISTENING SESSIONS TOO, THAT YOU GET, YOU WANT A LOT OF INFORMATION, YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT HEALTH RELATED THINGS, BUT YOU ALSO LEARNED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S SUCH A BIG PORTION OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
UM, OVERALL, EVEN WHEN IT PERTAINS TO THESE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN AMBULANCE AND, UM, HE WAS ABLE TO GET MONEY FOR THAT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND GET THEM AN AMBULANCE.
I MEAN, THAT'S, WHAT'S NEEDED, SO THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT.
I'D LIKE TO COMMEND THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR, UM, REACHING OUT TO MR. JONES.
I THINK A REOCCURRING THEME THAT WE'VE HEARD IN OUR LISTENING SESSIONS THROUGHOUT OUR PROCESS HAS BEEN A HISTORIC DISTRUST AND MAYBE WHERE EVENTS TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND ITS TENTACLES.
UM, AND I THINK THAT REACHING OUT TO SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND HELPING USHER THEM TO OUR TABLE, US TO THEIR TABLE CERTAINLY HELPS US, UM, IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT EFFORTS, ESPECIALLY IN DALLAS.
SO I'M VERY HAPPY, NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, MY OPINION IS TO BE OFF AND ON.
I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT THAT, THAT TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP AND HELPING WITH THAT TYPE OF COLLABORATION CAN GROW AND CONTINUE.
I SEE YOU COME TO BACK UP TO APPLE.
YOU MAY, WELL, LET'S GO BACK TO MARIA.
SO THE NEXT STEPS MARIA IS GETTING THESE GROUPS.
THIS CONTACT IS ESTABLISHING A LIST OF CONTACTS LOCALLY, RIGHT IN THE HEALTH COMMUNITY TOO.
WE NEED TO BRING THEM TOGETHER SO WE CAN DO THIS PRESENTATION OUT TO THEM RIGHT ON THE COVID.
AND THEN THAT, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO START CONTACTING, UM, FOLKS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY GET IT, THEY GET THE WORD THAT THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE EMPHASIS.
AND THEN I I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE HAD A DISCUSSION, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, DR.
FISHER IS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND YOU KNOW, OF COURSE HE'S A HOSPITALIST.
HE IS THE PALLIATIVE CARE DOCTOR.
HE GOES, YOU KNOW, HE KNOWS THAT HE'S, HE HAS A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I THINK THEY'VE BEEN HELPFUL.
AND, UM, GETTING THIS PANEL OF, YOU KNOW, THE MEDICAL SIDE OF IT TO ACTUALLY HELP WITH THE PRESENTATION, UM, THAT CAN BE DONE.
AND I'M GOING TO EMAIL HIM TOMORROW FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE
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REASON I SPOKE ABOUT THAT ON THE PHONE, AND I SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT HAVING A LIST OF, UM, UH, PARTNERS AND, UM, AND INCLUDING THEM AS FAR AS DISPERSING INFORMATION.SO WE, YOU KNOW, IT GETS TO THE PEOPLE.
SO THIS PRESENTATION IS HOWEVER, ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM OR SOME, OR MAYBE IT'S A FEW IT'S GOING TO BE GEARED TOWARDS THESE, NOT THE COMMUNITY YET.
NO, THE FRIES ARE GOING TO BE DOING, HELPING WITH PAT THAT AND GIVING INFORMATION TO PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO HAVE, WE NEED TO GET THAT REALLY DEEP.
DEFINITELY ONE DAY, THE FIRST THING WE NEED SOME MORE ABOUT IT.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S I TELLING YOU ABOUT THESE FIRST, WHO YOU ARE.
WE DO ANYTHING WE NEED TO FIND OUT.
WE USE COMMUNITY ALREADY DO IT THEN, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, YOU HAVE GOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF RESPECT.
AND WE FIND OUT WHO WILL FEED THROUGH TO DO WITH THE EDUCATION.
WE CALL IT, THERE ARE FEW PEOPLE DOING IT.
NDA GOT FISH SHOULD PROBABLY KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S DOING IT.
SO GIVE ME IT ALREADY TO BRING THEM TO THE IDEAS WE WAS.
AND I REMIND YOU OF THE SITUATION THAT HAPPENED TO YOUR KIDS, THE COMMUNITY HERE.
UM, WHEN I SPOKE TO JASMINE ON THE PHONE, I MENTIONED THAT SHE HAD BEEN DOING TESTING, UM, JUST RECENTLY, WHICH WAS AWESOME.
SO SHE'S VERY GOOD AT DISPERSING INFORMATION.
BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE TO ME.
AND THIS IS WHERE I'M HOPING THIS GROUP, WE HAVE ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS, HOW DO WE COLLECTIVELY BRING EVERYONE TO THE TABLE OR BRING ALL THIS? BECAUSE I WANT TO BE THE MANY, RATHER THAN A FEW AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE A GREATER IMPACT.
SO HOW DID WE DO WE PUT THE WORD OUT AND SAY, ARE YOU DOING THIS? IF SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A, MAYBE YOU COME TO SOMETHING AND I HAVEN'T RESOLVED IT YET.
BUT THE THOUGHT IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WAY TO GATHER STRENGTH, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS.
WELL THERE'S TRUST IS ONE ISSUE.
AND THEN I THINK THE SECOND ISSUE IS, IS KNOWLEDGE.
SO I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A GOOD IDEA AND THEY FEEL MOTIVATED TO DO SOMETHING.
AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT THERE'S A PAUSE TO SAY, OKAY, WHO CAN I COLLABORATE WITH? WHO ELSE IS DOING IT? SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING THE SAME THING.
NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO COLLABORATE, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THEIR COLLABORATORS ARE.
WELL, I THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH COLLABORATION GOING ON IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND PEOPLE KNOW WHO THE PLAYERS ARE.
IT HAS TO START REALLY AT A HIGHER LEVEL BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN WE VISITED, YOU KNOW, THE IRS, YOU KNOW, AT THE NATIONAL NONPROFIT CONGRESS, HE SAID, STOP GIVING OUT C3 AT THE DROP OF A BUCK APP.
YOU NEED TO ASK THEM WHO ELSE IN YOUR COMMUNITY IS DOING THAT.
CAN YOU PARTNER WITH THEM? BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO, PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, THEY SAY, I CAN DO IT BETTER THAN YOU.
AND THEN PEOPLE WANT TO WORK IN THERE, COME BACK AND POOL.
AND HONESTLY, IT'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
IF WE COMMUNICATE TO WANT TO KNOW IF WE KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO YOU GOT, THERE'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS DOING THERE.
I THINK YOU CAN INVITE THEM TO THE TABLE, BUT IF THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE SUFFERED WITH YOU OR DESSERT, THEN YOU KNOW, THEN THEY ARE NOT.
I MEAN, I KNOW PEOPLE SAY CNI, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T FIND THAT THEY DIDN'T TALK TO NOBODY, BUT EVERYBODY KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T LOOK AT IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES, YOU WILL SEE, HONESTLY, EVEN SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SCREAMING LOUDER, THERE ARE PICTURES IN THE BOOK.
SO IT'S JUST, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A COMBINATION OF, UM, A LOT OF THINGS.
AND SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HIT BECAUSE WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE, THAT'S WHY WE ARE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW? AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN REASON AND THEIR MISSION DICTATES WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY DO.
SO AGAIN, WE CAN IN INVOLVE THEM.
THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT IT FOR A RESOURCE DIRECTORY.
THAT'S WHY YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO UPDATE ALL THE TIME.
SO BE THAT EVERYBODY WILL KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT'S FOR THEM.
SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO THAT.
BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE INTO OUR COMMUNITY TO DO SOMETHING, WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHO ELSE IS DOING THAT.
SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INVITED BEFORE IT WAS JUST BECOMING A FENCE.
AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS PEOPLE NOT GOING TO WORK WITH YOU, BUT YOU, WHEN WE DO THAT, SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, ASK
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THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.AND I SAID, WE CAN INVITE THOSE TO SAY, BECAUSE, UH, PASTOR GIBSON, SHE WORKS WITH RESOURCEFUL COMMUNITY, WHICH IS A GREAT RESOURCE.
AND THEY DO IT WITH A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE METHODIST SPACE.
AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE, UH, LIKE THAT.
AND, UM, SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.
SHE WORKED WITH THEM FOR THE JOSEPH MARKET AND ALL OF THAT.
SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH THEM A LONG TIME.
THEY WORK WITH SOME OTHER PEOPLE, THEY DON'T WORKSHOPS HERE.
IT'S ABOUT HEALTHY EATING AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND ALL, ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO INVITE PEOPLE TO THE POTATO TABLE, AS I, AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE, AND I WAS TALKING TO JEFF ABOUT IT, IT'S HIM, PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE DO AND NOT JUST INSIDE OF THESE BOXES WHEN WE GO OUT, BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T KNOW GOVERNMENT IS, IS THE BEST KEPT SECRET.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MORE PUBLIC THAN ANYTHING ELSE, BUT A LOT OF THE THINGS WE DO, YOU KNOW, OUR BEST KEPT SECRETS.
SO JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST GOTTA, YOU KNOW, JUST GOTTA BE, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, JEFF, THE NEXT TIME WE WERE READING IS JULY 15TH MEETING ON WEDNESDAY AT 10 O'CLOCK.
AND DURING THAT MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE ASKED JASMINE, ASKED AND DR.
AND THAT WE JUST BRING YOU THE, UM, PERHAPS THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
PEOPLE COME THERE TO KIND OF START PLACE, PIECING IT TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.
SO I'M LIKE, NO, LET THEM GUIDE ME, UM, TO DETERMINE, AND THEN I GUESS WE'LL IN THE INTERIM, UM, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHO NEEDS TO BE THERE AS FAR AS THE, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO ASK, CAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT.
I WAS GOING THROUGH THE CNI, UM, FOR THE HEALTH PORTION AND LOOKING AT THOSE RESOURCES, UH, IT WOULD BE MAYBE USEFUL FOR US TO HAVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OURSELVES JUST TO KNOW WHO'S DOING, FOR EXAMPLE, FINANCIAL LITERACY OR NUTRITION OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU CAN GO ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES, UH, WEBSITE.
I, WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF BOOKS NOW BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD A HUNDRED PENNY, UH, AND GOLD BOOK ON THAT RESOURCE PAGE.
AND THEN SO A RESOURCE DIRECTORY THERE AND IT HAS ALL THEIR INFORMATION.
IT'S BROKEN DOWN BY HIS HOUSING FOR LITERACY.
THEN WE HAVE IN THE SAND, EVERY TIME I PRINT THEM, THEY DISAPPEAR NOT AS MY RESOURCE DIRECTORY, BUT YOU CAN LOOK IN THERE.
I GOT SOME AT THE HOUSE AND THE OFFICE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND MY PHONE.
UM, BUT IT, IT HAS IT BROKEN DOWN INTO, INTO, UH, THAT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATE, BUT IT'S PRETTY GOOD.
I PUT ONE OF OUR PARTNERS WOULD BE ON THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY.
SO THE OVERLAP, IF YOU SAY THAT IT'S AT 10 OR IS IT A CALL? WHAT DOES IT DO?
IF WE WANT TO DO THIS AGAIN OR, OKAY.
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BUSINESS AND NUISANCE ABATEMENT REPORTS.DID WE AGREE ON IT? I'M JUST, I DON'T MEAN I BOUGHT THIS WHAT YOU SAY, BUT I WANT TO JUST WAIT YOU TO BEGIN.
PUTTING UP WITH HAVE CHANGED THE MODULAR MOBILE OR WHATEVER IT HAS HAVE A BETTER DAY.
SO, UM, I GUESS I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, DO IMPROVE THIS LANGUAGE, SEND IT, UH, THROUGH P AND Z AND THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN SUBJECT TO TWO CHANGES.
ONE BEING CHANGING, MOBILE MANUFACTURED AND ADDING A AS OF DATE OF ADOPTION, ALL EXISTING.
IS THAT BEING ALRIGHT? ALRIGHT.
WE ALL LOOKING AT YOU KID WHO'S.
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ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.UM, JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THERE'S A LOT OF DUPLICATES IN THE MINIMUM HOUSING ONE, AND THAT'S SIMPLY, THOSE ARE THE LETTERS.
THOSE ARE THE OWNERS, NOT, UH, ANYTHING ELSE.
SO WE'LL PROBABLY THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT, BUT FOR PATRICK'S TO MINE, THIS WORKS FOR HIM, BUT I'LL DO A BETTER JOB OF FORMATTING.
WHAT THE NEAT THING ABOUT THIS IS YOU'LL SEE, ON THAT FAR RIGHT COLUMN, THEY'LL SAY INTERESTED, INTERESTED, INTERESTED.
THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN SELLING THEIR PROPERTIES.
SO WE'RE KEEPING TABS ON THAT AS WE GO ALONG, UM, UH, EVERY MONTH, RICK, UM, WHERE ARE YOU AT THE TITLE OPINION YET PENDING? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S WALT BELLAMY RETURNED TO SENDER ENDING.
WELL, SO WE SENT THEM A VIOLATION NOTICE.
HE CAME BACK TO, UM, AND THE TITLE OPINION IS PROBABLY WE SENT IT OVER TO PEGGY TO DO IT.
SCOTT'S A LEGAL ASSISTANT WHO DOES THE TABLET AND STUFF SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL JUST, IT'S DONE NOTHING SPECIFIC JUST, UH, FROM BECKY AND JUST SEE IF ALL THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE CAN GO TO DISCUSS THE OFFER.
NOW, MS. CHEN, ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT? OR WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE UPPER RIGHT.
BEFORE WE GO ON AND HOUSING, WE NEED TO SAY ANYTHING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT WE NEED TO DO THE SAME THING.
WE HAVE TO GO ON THAT SIDE BECAUSE
UM, SAY I CAN SCROLL AND TALK ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, THE OFFICE OF PERSONS IN BNB
UM, YEAH, DROP ALREADY PRESENTED IT TO YOU.
WE RECEIVED A COUNTER OFFER FROM THE SELLER FOR A PURCHASE PRICE OF $35,000 AND 60 DAYS TO CLOSE.
UM, AND I THINK MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE OF THE DISCUSSION ON FROM THE LAST SPECIALIST CALLED ME.
UM, WE OFFERED $25,000 A 90 DAY DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD WITH 30 DAYS TO CLOSE.
SO, UM, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTER OFFER THERE AND I GUESS I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE COMMISSION TO DISCUSS WHAT WAS THE LIST? PARTS 45.
MOST RECENTLY CAME DOWN TO 48, 37.
DID ANYBODY HAPPEN TO CHECK OUT WHAT THE LOT PRICES WERE? THAT WAS THREE LOTS, THAT $500 75 THAT'S THE TAX VALUE OR WHAT WOULD BE JEALOUS OR YEAH, BUT NOBODY CONTACTED YOU WE'VE CONTACTED HER ON THE PAST.
I KNOW THE PALACE, YOU KNOW, GO ACROSS THE STREET AND SHE HAD TOLD THEM SHE WAS INTERESTED IN SOMETHING, BUT NOT OUT AT A GOOD PRICE.
I MEAN, THE HOUSE WAS AN INTEREST,
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BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH IT, OBVIOUSLY WHAT THEY'D BE WILLING TO PAY BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN CORRECT.WELL, THAT'S WHY SHE PUT UP, I THOUGHT EXORBITANT PRICE DISCUSSION.
WELL, THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME, YOU KNOW, THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD.
IF IT'S A 60 DAY CLOSING, THEN WHAT DOES THAT TAKE THE DUE DILIGENCE DOWN TO 30 DAYS? 30 DAYS.
AND NOBODY'S STRETCHED IT OUT ORIGINALLY BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DATE THEY HAD, UM, UM, IN SEPTEMBER THAT, UM, MINIMAL HOUSING VIOLATION AND THAT'S IN SEPTEMBER.
AND THEN WHEN THE SEPTEMBER IS THAT GO OUT, I MEAN, IT CAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DATE IS.
UH, SHE'S UNDER, UH, UM, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DATE IS.
THAT'S JUST UP INTO THE BUILDING AND SHE FELT HIS BACK IN ORDER THAT THAT WAS A CHIEF INSPECTOR TO APPLY.
FIRST OF ALL, THAT I WOULD, I WOULDN'T ACCEPT THIS.
THE TIMEFRAME IS IF YOU WANT IT, I PUT IT ON THE COUNTER OFFER OUT BACK TO THEM.
I WILL DO A 60 DAY DUE DILIGENCE AND THE 90 DAY CLOSING.
AND THEN MAINLY BECAUSE THE 60 DAY DUE DILIGENCE GETS US INTO THEIR NOTICE PERIOD.
AND DURING THE, DURING THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD, YOU WALK AWAY FROM ANYTHING.
THERE WAS NO REASON, NO QUESTIONS, NO NOTHING.
AND IF THEY SAY, WELL, WHY, AND YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WE JUST FOUND OUT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NOTICE OF MINIMUM HOUSING, DEMOLITION AND DEMOLITION.
SO THEN YOU CAN, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU READ IT TO GO SHADE, PRICE, UH, AND JUST TO SHOW GOOD FAITH.
I WOULD AN HOUR, AN HOUR COUNTER PROPOSAL.
I'D PROBABLY KICKED THE PRICE UP TO $28,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO SEE IF THEY DON'T MOVE ANYMORE.
BUT THE HAMMER IN THIS WHOLE THING, THIS WHOLE DEAL IS THE SEPTEMBER DATE FOR THE VIOLATION NOTICE.
AND I THINK WE'VE PRETTY MUCH ESTABLISHED LAST TIME, BUT NOBODY'S GOING TO KNOW INDEPENDENT INVESTORS GOING IN AND BUYING THIS HOUSE.
AND IF THE REALTOR IS, IF THE REALTOR DOES NOT KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO NON COMPLIANCE VIOLATIONS COMING FORWARD, THEN, WHICH IS A MATERIAL FACT, THERE, THERE IS MALPRACTICE BASICALLY.
AND SO THEY NEED TO INFORM ANY POTENTIAL INVESTOR OR BUYER THAT WOULD OCCUR.
AND AGAIN, JUST BASED ON THE ECONOMICS WITHOUT GOVERNMENT MONEY, NOBODY CAN REDO THIS HOUSE THIS WAY, AND THEN IT WOULD BE DEMOLISHED AND THAT'S NOT ACHIEVING OUR GOAL OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
SO, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, SAY IT AGAIN.
WE WANT, WE WANT TO BE PRUDENT AND SMART AND HOW WE SPEND THEIR MONEY AND DOING OUR ARE ACCOMPLISHING OUR JOB, OUR MISSION.
SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD BE ON THE THING TO GO BACK OUT ON THE 28TH WITH THE 60 DAY DUE DILIGENCE.
AND THE 90 DAY CLOSING IS MY OPINION FROM BEING A RUTHLESS DEVELOPER.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE, MAN CREATED.
WE DID NOT SAY THAT ABOUT YOU.
I'M CONCERNED STILL, REGARDLESS OF THE PURCHASE PRICE IS THE COST.
AND IS THAT A GOOD SPAN OF DOLLARS? YOU KNOW, AND WOULDN'T YOU RATHER BUILD THREE OR FOUR HOUSES, MAYBE NOT IN THAT SPOT, MAYBE AROUND THE CORNER.
MAYBE NOT THE SIDE LOTS, BUT WOULD, WE COULD BE HOUSED MORE PEOPLE.
COULD WE HELP MORE PEOPLE VERSUS TWO STORIES HERE THAT MINIMALLY IT'S NOT HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE? IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE.
I KNOW IN OLD HOUSES HOW HARD IT IS TO RECONSTRUCT THEM TO WHAT THE LIVING IS TAKEN OUT, WALTZ ARMS. SURE.
WHEN YOU LOOKED AT COSTS ABOVE THAT PROBABLY LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, MAKING KITCHEN, MAYBE MORE USER-FRIENDLY OR WHATEVER BATHROOMS, THINGS.
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THERE'S NOTHING, NO WALLS, NO KITCHEN.IT'S STRIP IT DOWN TO THE STUDS AND THE STUDS AND ONTO THE JOISTS INSTEAD OVER.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT WE USE FOR THE DUE DILIGENCE.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM, SO WE WOULD, UH, PROBABLY GET A COUPLE OF CONTRACTORS WHERE WE WERE THE FIRST, WE HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT THE RE THE REBUILD LOOKS LIKE, RIGHT? SO WE GOT TO GET A CONCEPT, AN IDEA OF WHAT MATERIALS, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, ALL THAT STUFF AND DESIGN.
UM, AND THEN WE CONTACTED A FEW, UH, CONTRACTORS AND SAY,
THAT'S WHY YOU DO DUE DILIGENCE WORK THAN WE PROJECTED WALK AWAY.
AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, THEY GET A NOTICE THAT WE DEMOLISH THE HOUSE AND TAKE THE ICE SHORE.
BECAUSE MAYBE THEY JUST HAND IT OVER TO
UM, I THINK PERMISSION PARAGUAY WENT DOWN THE SAME EXACT PATH.
I KNOW WE WEREN'T INTIMATED AS MUCH IN THE EMAIL.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT RANGE, I MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW NOW THAT 25 IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GOING TO OFFEND HIM TO A POINT OF MEMBER RESPONSE
BUT TO SOME EXTENT YOU GOT TO DO WITH WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND WE'VE KIND OF ROUTED THROUGH WHAT'S, WHAT'S LISTED OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AND THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT.
SO IN THE ABSENCE OF SOMETHING, I DO KIND OF LIKE, YOU GO WITH WHAT YOU GOT AND GET FED ALL OF WHERE I WAS THINKING OF THAT 28, 29 RANGE.
AND, UH, I, I LIKED THAT 60 DAY CLOSE.
I MEAN, 60 DAY DUE DILIGENCE, 30 MORNING CLOSED.
THAT'LL BE, UM, WHEN YOU COME TO WORK, EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO I'M 100% ON BOARD WITH THAT.
AND LIKE IN THE WORKS TO BRING US TOGETHER WITH THE FACE ON A WHOLE DIFFERENT PROJECT, I'M GOING TO CONTACT SOMEBODY TO MAKE THAT CALL BECAUSE I THINK WE, IT WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT FOR US NOT TO MAKE THE CALL AND TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, AT LEAST DON'T UNDERSTAND PRIVATELY FROM OUR OTHER RATING.
BOTH THESE PROPERTY OWNERS DO NOT LIVE IN NEWBURN PROPERTY OWNER.
SO IT'S NOT NEIGHBORHOOD OF PEOPLE THAT WERE MAKING OFFERS TO HELP THEM.
MY QUESTION IS IF THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE STOUT, YOU KNOW, COULD BE CONVINCED TO DONATE IT TO, IS THERE A WEEK SET UP THAT THEY WOULD GET A TAX WRITE-OFF OR COULD THEY DONATE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO GET THE TAX WRITE OFF? THEY CAN GET A TAX WRITE OFF, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE AN INCENTIVE.
EVEN WHAT LOTS ON THE OTHER LOTS WOULD YOU SAY, ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD? BUT THAT DONATION WOULD BE TAINTED BY THE VALUE THAT THEY WILL GET IN US, TEARING IT DOWN.
WELL, IF IT'S NOT WITH IT, THEY'RE GETTING, THEY WOULD GAIN VALUE BY DOING THAT A LOT OF WAYS.
WHENEVER SOMEONE CALLS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BURN A HOUSE DOWN FOR THEM, IF YOU CAN'T CLAIM THE VALUE, YOU CAN CLAIM A DEDUCTION FOR THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE THAT YOU HAD BURNED DOWN.
SO IF THEY, SO THAT THE TAX VAT, EVEN THE TAX VALUE THEY CAN'T GET, OR IS IT THE MARKET VALUE TO USE THAT FIRE EXAMPLE THAT I USE IN THAT CASE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ACTUALLY DOING YOU A FAVOR AND DIMINISHED AND REDUCING YOUR CALLS BY TAKING IT DOWN 40.
SO BY THE FACT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS, IF IT GETS TO A POINT THAT IT'S SLATED FOR DEMOLITION, THEN LITERALLY WHATEVER, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DONATE IT FOR.
IT WOULD BE REDUCED BY THEIR COST TO THEM ALL TO DEMOLISH IT.
THEY WOULD NEED TO GO ON AND DO THAT IN THE 60 DAY DUE DILIGENCE.
IT WOULD BE TO GET THAT TO US.
I MEAN, THE ORDER TO DEMOLISH IS A PROCESS THAT GOES BEFORE THE BOARD EVOLVES.
SO NOTHING GETS DEMOLISHED UNTIL WE DO AN ORDER, AN ORDINANCE THAT GETS APPROVED BY THE BOARD, BY VIRTUE OF US HAVING THIS POSITION.
THERE THERE'S SOME VALUE THAT WE BELIEVE TO BE THERE.
BUT ONCE IT GETS TO A POINT THAT WE BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE NO VALUE THERE, THEN NO WRITE OFF.
I ASKED FOR THOSE OTHER ADJACENT LOTS, LIKE IN THE RIGHT OF THE PAGE, THE PICTURE, UM, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH CONTACT WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN ADDITION TO DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING OR TALKING ABOUT DOING.
BUT I THINK TO MAKE THE CALL IS VERY IMPORTANT.
SO I KNOW MY PAY GRADE, BUT, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD DO VERY SELECTIVE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO, EVEN IF THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY MORE, ONCE LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY HAVE A DISTRUST OF CERTAIN UNDERSTOOD THINGS, PROBABLY,
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YOU KNOW, UM, THAT PERSON LAST NIGHT, I'M GOING TO CONTACT ON THE JOB.IT WASN'T SAYING THAT I, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE, WHEN IT COMES TO REAL ESTATE, IT'S NOT PITCH.
IT IS CHICK JUST TOLD US IT WAS.
BUT WHEN YOU PRESENT SOMETHING TO SOMEBODY IT'S PRESENTED AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE CHEAPER, THAT'S GREAT.
PATTY AND BILL THREE STRUCTURES THERE, THAT'S GOT A THOUSAND $400,000.
HAVE YOU TALKED WITH BILL HENDRICK? UM, CAUSE HE TOLD ME THAT THE TINY HOUSES THAT THEY WERE BUILDING WORK AND THE 60, $65,000 RANGE.
UM, BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS WHAT, TWO YEARS AGO, MAYBE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PRICING HAS CHANGED OR WHATEVER.
WELL, WHAT'S HIS TINY HOUSE THOUGH, IS WHAT, WHAT'S HIS TINY HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'S TWO.
I HAVE, I DON'T HAVE MY BOOK HERE, BUT I HAVE THE PICTURES.
HE GAVE ME THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
THEY DO LITTLE COMMUNITY CUL-DE-SACS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHERE IS THAT SABRINA AGAIN? WELL, IT WAS OUT OF, UM, HE WORKED WITH PEOPLE OUT OF DURHAM.
I BELIEVE IT WAS, WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE TO GET FUNDING FOR THESE.
BESIDES THE, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE CBD, YOU BUILD THEM FOR $88, RIGHT? SOME OTHER FEDERAL, I MEAN, COLLEGE, I'VE BEEN DOING A LITTLE READING WITH THE HEALTH STUFF AND YOU KNOW, HOW USING OUR CDBG ENTITLEMENT FUNDS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT HAVE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OR COMMUNITY CBB, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BUILDING AN ORGANIZATION TO BUILD NEW HOMES.
UM, THUS IT SEEMS WE CANNOT USE OUR CURRENT FUNDING TO BUILD NEW HOMES.
WE CAN USE OUR CDBG FUNDING FOR REDEPLOYMENT.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF WALT BELLAMY DRIVE? HOPEFULLY IT GETS ME ALIGNED.
HOPEFULLY RIDING, RIDING DOWN THERE THIS AFTERNOON ON ONE SIDE, YOU HAVE AN ATTRACTIVE BEGINNING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE HABITAT HOUSES.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, YEAH.
AND I MEAN, IF YOU COULD, IF THAT PORTION OF IT, BUT YOU GOT TO STAY WHERE IT IS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS OR NOT PROBABLY, UM, YEAH, IT'LL, IT'LL STRAIGHTEN OUT WHERE IT, UH, WHERE IT GOES INTO TRENT COURT.
I REMEMBER A CONVERSATION THAT, THAT IN THINKING BEYOND NEXT WEEK THAT WE NEED MAYBE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER RANGE THING OF THINGS THAT WE KNOW PROBABLY ARE GOING TO HAPPEN THAT WILL HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE WHOLE AND THAT PORTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA THAT WE MIGHT START LOOKING AT SOME OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR ENTRANCEWAY INTO THE NEW MIXED HOUSING.
AND I THINK THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY DOWN THERE.
AND EVEN THAT HOUSE ON THE CORNER, THAT'S FOR SALE FOR $45,000, YOU KNOW, A LOT NEXT DOOR.
YOU COULD, YOU COULD TAKE, YOU COULD BUY THE HOUSE IN THE LOT AND CREATE THREE YEAH.
THREE, THREE LOTS ACROSS THERE FOR HABITAT SIZE HOUSES ON WELFARE OR ON FIRST ON BELMONT HILL FOUND IT.
THEN WE PULLED UP IN AMANDA'S OFFICE AND MY MOTHER WOULDN'T PICK ON WALT BEHLEN WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE, AS YOU GET CLOSER BACK TO FIRST OUT HERE, YOU GET THAT VERY NARROW STRETCH TO WHERE THERE'S ROOM FOR THE FENCE LINE THERE IN THE BACK OF THE BOATYARD, THE SIDEWALK, THE STREET AND THE HOUSE.
AND SO THAT, THAT IN MY MIND IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE LIMITATION OF ONLY HOW TIGHT THAT IS RIGHT THERE.
SO, I MEAN, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES FARTHER ON UP, BUT WALT BELLAMY IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A SMALL NARROW STREET, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT FRONT PORTION RIGHT THERE.
UM, THE ONE QUESTION I HAD, UM, AND AGAIN, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT ON BOARD WITH GOING BACK WITH THAT OFFER, UM, OF THAT 28, 29 ON THIS.
DO WE WANT TO REVISIT ANY POTENTIAL AUTHORITY FOR STAFF OR THE HOUSING COMMITTEE OR SOMEONE
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ELSE TO GO A LITTLE BIT ABOVE THAT THAT WAS THE NATURE OF NEGOTIATIONS.IF WE GO BACK INTO 28 AND THEY'RE AT 35 RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AT 32 AND TO RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
WHAT WE'D LIKE TO ISSUE A MAXIMUM THAT IT COULD GO UP TO.
I KNOW THAT'S FROM A NEGOTIATING STANDPOINT, SITTING IN A PUBLIC MEETING, TALKING ABOUT A MAXIMUM IS SOMETHING THAT'S TOUGH TO DEAL WITH, BUT IN REALITY, WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO RAMP UP AND SIT AROUND THIS TABLE AGAIN, NEXT WEEK, WHENEVER THEY COME OUT OF IT, A BE A HIGHER NUMBER, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
AND THAT'S NO, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE GAME OF REAL ESTATE, BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS YOU'RE IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
IF YOU'RE NOT IN A CLOSED SESSION, JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND YOU'RE DISCUSSING, WELL, WE'LL GO TO THIS MAXIMUM WHERE THIS IS PUBLIC AND THE PROPERTY OWNER SAID, WELL, I KNOW YOU CAN GO TO 30 AND YOU'RE TELLING ME 28.
SO THIS IS PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA.
ASKED FOR A QUESTION FOR, I MEAN, FOR A REASON.
AND I GUESS THAT KIND OF BUILDS THE, DO WE HAVE AN AVENUE AVAILABLE TO US TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR THE NEXT TIME THIS COMES UP, I'M ABOUT TO DISCUSS PROPERTY ACQUISITION PERSONNEL.
I MEAN FOR YOU GUYS PERSONALITY, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE ACTING AS A, A BODY HAVE PERSONALITIES, BUT I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE TWO REASONS YOU CAN GO INTO CLOSED SESSION FROM PERSONNEL LOCATION, LOCATION, AND FAT PROPERTY.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE NEXT TIME WE DONE, WE BEING THE HOUSING COMMITTEE BRINGS SOMETHING TO THE LARGER TABLE.
THE AGENDA THAT GOES OUT DOES NOT NEED TO MENTION THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, TO DISCUSS PROPERTY TRANSACTIONS AND THEY COME OUT OF CLOSE.
YOU DECIDED SOMETHING IN THAT CLOSED SESSION TO COME OUT AND VOTE ON IT IN THE OPEN SESSION, BUT IN CLOSED SESSION, THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN DO ALL THAT.
YOU HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED, YOU DO WHATEVER.
AND THEN YOU DO YOUR PROPERTY NEGOTIATIONS.
AND THEN IF THAT DOESN'T WORK OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT'S USUALLY, YEAH, I DID NOT KNOW THAT WE HAD A CLOSED SESSION OPTION AVAILABLE, BUT IF WE DID BY THE SAME RULES IS AS A PUBLIC BODY.
YOU'RE YOUR OWN PUBLIC ECONOMIC COMMITTEE.
YOU'RE OUT OF EUROPE COMMISSION BY THE STATUTE.
YOU BET MARK FOR THE NEXT GO ROUND THERE AS OPPOSED TO DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER WALKER.
AND, UH, THEY CAME AND THEY WERE JUST EXTREMELY GRATEFUL ONCE I FIGURED OUT WHAT WE WERE DOING, IT WASN'T UNTIL EARLY, WHEN THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE EXTREMELY SATISFIED.
THEY CLAIMED THEY'VE ALREADY DONE A LITTLE PICKUP IN THAT AREA WE WERE AT, BUT THEY WERE DELIGHTED THAT THE STUDENTS COMING IN TO HELP WITH THE BIGGER BREASTS THAT WE DISCUSSED TODAY.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE OLD, UM, REBUILT THE COMMISSION KNEW THAT THEY WERE EXTREMELY DELIGHTED ONCE.
Y'ALL KIND OF
SO WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITIZEN THAT THEY WERE EXTREMELY DELIGHTED.
OKAY, SO, SO DO YOU NEED EMOTION TO THE LOAD? LET'S TRY THAT.
AND I'LL CHECK WITH SCOTT TO SEE IF IT, IF IT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT HAPPENED AFTERWARDS, SO, OKAY.
LET'S JUST MAKE THE MOTION AND, UH, WE WILL RUN IT THROUGH AND I'LL JUST CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE IT'S PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS AND IT WASN'T DULY NOTICED ON HIS AGENDA, BUT IT WAS EARLIER.
SO I'LL FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S OKAY OR NOT.
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AND IT MIGHT BE BIG TO CURB AS AT FIRST I JUST TEXTED HIM, BUT I THINK SHOULD WE JUST MAKE A MOTION OR A COUNTER WITH 28,000 WITH 60 DAY DUE DILIGENCE WITH AS IN ANOTHER 30 TO CLOSE.SO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RESPOND TO THE COUNTEROFFER WE RECEIVED WITH A COUNTERPROPOSAL OF $28,000 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 10 23 PUBLIC STREET WITH A 60 DAY DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD IN THE CONTRACT AND A 90 DAY 90 DAY CLOSING.
WE CHECKED WITH THAT AND IT WAS SENDING A OUT TO YOU PROVIDED DEPENDING A LITTLE BIT.
AT LEAST A LANDOWNER WILL KNOW NOT THIS COMING.
WE HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA, DO A QUICK ZOOM MEETING OR SOMETHING FORMAL TO GET THAT DONE.
THAT'S BASED ON YOU CAN'T VOTE EMOTION ON IT CAUSE IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA.
UM, AND AGAIN, I'M WORKING TO FACILITATE SEVERAL DIFFERENT GROUPS, YOU KNOW? UM, WE'VE GOT THE NRCDC, WHICH IS DOING THE WORK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DIERDRE
SO, UM, LOTS OF QUESTIONS, LOTS OF OVERLAPS.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A MEETING THAT WILL INVOLVE HER REPRESENTING THE NRCDC MIKE WILLIAMS REPRESENTING HABITAT BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING AFFORDABLE.
HASN'T HAD ASKED STEVE REPRESENTING THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO COME TO THIS TABLE, THE MAYOR AND I WILL BE THERE.
UM, AND I THINK MARK WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, JEFF I'D ASKED MARK.
AND HE WAS, HE, HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO PASS IT ALONG TO YOU.
AND THERESA CARISSA HAS SAID, UM, SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT YOU HAVE TWO HATS.
SO I FEEL LIKE IF YOU'RE THERE, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, LISTEN TO HIM AND SPEAK TO REDEVELOPMENT TUITION, OR, OR IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE TOMORROW AT ONE O'CLOCK AT CITY HALL, IF YOU COULD COME, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
I'M LOOKING FOR GOT A QUESTION, MARK.
AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO JUST BRING EVERYBODY TO THE TABLE FACILITATE HERE WE ARE.
ALL THESE GROUPS ARE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE'RE PROBABLY ALL GOING TO GO AFTER THE SAME CRABS OR THE POOLS OF MONEY.
SO HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY OR HOW DO WE MAKE THESE EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS BETTER OR WORK TOGETHER AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL KNOW ME TO SAYS, I'M NOT SURE I'M JUST FACILITATING BECAUSE DEIRDRE BROUGHT IT UP.
AND WE STARTED HAVING LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT AREA AND FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND HOW ARE WE ALL WORKING TOGETHER? SO THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE AT CITY HALL FROM THE POLLUTION, IF YOU WISH TO JOKE.
ONE OF THE, UM, SEE IF WE CAN GET ANY KIND OF AN IDEA AND UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON, UH, I GUESS GETTING PROPERTIES TRANSFERRED OVER.
THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A WHILE NOW.
WELL, SCOTT AND, UH, HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THE PAPERWORK.
I MEAN, IT'S A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF DEANS AND PAPERWORK AND HE IS IN THAT PROCESS NOW.
THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DAYS IN PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE THIRD AVENUE PROPERTIES THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY NOT TURN IT OVER.
THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
THAT IS NOT FINAL DECISION HAS COME FOR THE BOARD OF ALL, BUT THEY WILL SAY THE THIRD AVENUE.
I KIND OF UNDERSTAND DAYS I'M A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE BOUGHT IT, UM, OR REQUESTS BY SOME OF THE OLD, AT THIS POINT.
I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT I'LL SHARE, I'LL SHARE IT WHEN I CAN.
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THE PROPERTIES TRANSFERRING OVER ALL THE PROPERTIES AND I THINK WHAT DOES IT GO LIKE A HUNDRED PROPERTIES OR AT LEAST A HUNDRED PROPERTIES.SO THE PAPERWORK THAT HE IS WORKING ON THAT AND TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS GETTING ALL THAT DONE.
I'D VERY MUCH APPRECIATE SOMEONE FROM MOST MEANINGFUL YOU DID IN THAT CONVERSATION ON THE DAY'S PROPERTY WITH ALL THOSE THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG PIECE OF THE PUZZLE FOR US IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS THAT'S TAKEN OUT, OUR CALCULUS CHANGES YOUR MAGIC.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, TOTALLY, TOTALLY.
UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU.
AND, UM, ALSO AS FAR AS FUNDING GOES, UM, IF WE CLOSED, YES.
YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT MONEY ON WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD THAT, UH, THAT LOT IS VIRTUALLY CLEAR ALREADY.
SO THEY WERE ON THE GROUND ON MONDAY DOING WORK ON THAT.
SO, UM, THE, THE CREDITS ARE REQUIRED.
THE CREDITS REQUIRED TO BE TEXTS, LODGING TO BE STARTED AND PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF CAPACITY FIELD BODY.
SO THERE'S A RELATIVELY QUICK TURNAROUND FOR A PROJECT OF THAT NATURE ON THAT PIECE OF LAND.
UM, SO THERE'S THAT, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING SOMETHING ON.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT'S ALL BOOKS, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS CAROLYN AVENUE PROPERTY.
UM, SO YEAH, SO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY DID PURCHASE THAT LAND FROM THE CITY AND WE'VE HAD COMMITMENTS MADE THAT THAT FUNDING WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR OUR EFFORTS AND ENDEAVORS.
SO ON THE KIND OF SECOND PART OF IT, OF THAT EARLIER QUESTION WAS WHERE DO WE STAND ON GETTING A FUND CREATED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE OUT? BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S, THAT'S COMPLICATING THE AMOUNT OF JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THIS PART, JUST IN THE LAST GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR THE, UM, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR IS GOING TO HAVE A HAND IN, OR WHO'S GOT THE AUTHORITY TO CREATE THOSE, THOSE STORIES WE'LL HAVE TO, SHE LIVES THE MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND INTO A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
SO THE LINE ITEMS ALREADY, SO IT'S JUST A TRANSFER OF FUNDS ALREADY THERE.
AND WHAT WAS THAT AMOUNT AGAIN FOR THAT FOR 1 35 AND YOU KNOW, I, I, A HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT EVERY DIME OF THAT.
UM, I'M THE ONE THAT WILL REQUEST IT TO BE ON THAT AGENDA.
I HOPE MY FELLOW ALDERMAN JOINING.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO TALK TO THEM ANYWAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANYTHING BEFORE WE LEAVE THE WALLETS? ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU.
THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH HERE IN SYDNEY EXECUTIVE ORDER.
TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND YOU WILL BE WELL.