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THAT'S ALL RIGHT,

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EVERYBODY.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START

[1. Welcome and roll call by Tharesa Lee, Board Chair.]

BECAUSE IT IS THREE MINUTES, BUT WE'LL START BY OUR ROLL CALL.

SO BEGINNING WITH OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, EX-OFFICIO ALDERMAN BINGO.

EX-OFFICIO MEMBER OF ALL THE MEN DESKS.

EX-OFFICIO MEMBER, ALL THE MEN PARENTS HERE.

I'M HERE.

UM, COMMISSIONER MORGAN HERE.

COMMISSIONER WALKER HERE.

COMMISSIONER SHELL? YES, I'M HERE.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, COMMISSIONER KIM'S.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

COMMISSIONER JOHN JOHN'S DAD, COMMISSIONER WALLACE.

YOU SHOULDN'T BE FOLLOWING HIM, BUT, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR COMING HERE.

I REALLY DO OWE YOU THREE MINUTES, SO IT'D BE 7 27.

WE'LL GET OUT.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU.

YEAH.

SEVEN 20.

IS THAT RIGHT? NO.

NO, THANK YOU.

I'M LIKE, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S WRONG.

THANK YOU ALL OUT PUBLIC FOR COMING TODAY.

WE WERE INTERESTED IN AS YOU WERE REDEVELOPMENT, UM, CODE WAS COMMISSION.

UM, AND UH, WE MISSED IT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MEETING AS, AS, AS OFTEN.

AND SO WE MISSED IT, BUT I DIDN'T WANT US TO MISS THE NIGHT THERE.

SO HE SAW I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONERS.

CURRICULUM IS SWAMPED WITH OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

YES, MA'AM UH, PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE EQUAL TIME, RESPECT OTHER'S OPINIONS.

LISTEN TO BILL THE CONSENSUS.

AND YOU KNOW, I CAN'T READ THAT.

I WANT TO READ THE WORD PERCEPTION BECAUSE IT HAS A GLARE ON IT.

DON'T SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION PUBLIC.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU BEING ACTION ORIENTED AND THE REST OF US, BELIEVE THAT BELIEVE.

UM, WE LAUGH AND JOKE ABOUT GUIDING PRINCIPLES, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING GUIDED BY THEM.

WE HAVE A PLAN.

WE WERE MOVING.

WE HAD OURSELVES COULD BE, BUT THESE PRINCIPLES STILL GOALS GOES WITHOUT SAYING.

SO JUST LET US REMEMBER THAT AS WE GO FORWARD.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE.

YOU'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD

[2. Approval of Minutes. ]

AND GET OUR APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

TONIGHT WILL BE A, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT, UH, THE INFLAMMATION OF EATING.

RIGHT.

I MOVED.

THAT'D BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.

THANK YOU.

SECOND QUESTION DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, WE HAVE PUBLIC, UH, UH, TONIGHT, IF YOU WOULD GIVE YOUR NAME TO MISS SCHOOL FOR THE YEAR YOU HAVE IN PLACE, SAY THIS NINE IS YOUR TIME.

WE HAVE FOUR MINUTES ANYONE.

OKAY.

LET'S GIVE IT, I THINK, UM, DID YOU GET HIS NAME FOR THE LAST TIME AND THOUGH THEY BEGAN AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH OUR, UM, OKAY.

SO TH SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HEAR EVERYBODY, UM, COMMISSIONER YOUNG, IF YOU WOULD JUST WAIT UNTIL, UM, I ACKNOWLEDGE YOU WHEN YOU CALL ME AND SNIFF AND THAT WAY WE WON'T BE TALKING OVER ONE ANOTHER.

UM, SO IF YOU COULD JUST DO THAT FOR ME, AND THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA ASK PERMISSION YOUR WALLETS, UH, AS WELL AS MAKE SURE YOU GET ON AND GET OUT BEFORE, AND EVERYTHING'S NOT CONFUSED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

UM, SAD.

SURE.

UM, COMMITTEE

[4. Subcommittee Updates.]

UPDATES, LET'S START WITH, I'LL LET MARIA TAKE OVER ON IT.

WE'LL GIVE EVERYONE HER HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMMITTEE REPORT.

UH, SHE'S BEEN DOING A WONDERFUL JOB, UM, WITH NOT ONLY THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMPONENT OF PUTTING TOGETHER PROGRAMS AND EVENTS, BUT SHE IS ALSO CREATING THE RELATIONSHIPS AND, UM, BUILDING THE BRIDGES IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND IT'S, IT'LL HELP, UH, THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY KIND OF COME TOGETHER AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO I'VE, I'VE BEEN NOTICING THAT OVER THE PAST, UH,

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MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF OR SO.

AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING, BUT YEAH.

UM, WELL, WE'VE BEEN, I THINK PART OF THAT, THIS, YOU HAVE SOME OF THE SUCCESS THAT WE'VE HAD IS THAT YOU MEET, UM, TYPICALLY EVERY WEDNESDAY WITH, UM, THE NCC, UH, YOU STAFF AND WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WE'VE GOTTEN, UH, FIRST MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH INVOLVED.

SO WE HAVE A FAITH COMPONENT.

OF COURSE WE HAVE MR. REGGIE JONES AS THE COMMUNITY LIAISON.

HE'S AN, A VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR, VERY SMART, UM, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING MAN, I ENJOY WORKING WITH HIM, SO HE'S BEEN HELPING US AND HE'S ALSO, IT'S BEEN HIS, UM, PREVIOUS, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIONS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS HELPED US.

AND HE CONTINUES TO DO THAT.

SO WHEN WE'RE WORKING, WE DECIDED THAT INITIALLY IT IS, YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT LAST TIME WE DID THE COVID, UM, 19 PROGRAM ON A FACEBOOK LIVE, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SERIES WE'LL HAVE, BUT THE NEXT ONE THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON AND WE DON'T HAVE A DATE YET, BUT SOMETIME, HOPEFULLY MID OCTOBER, UM, WE'LL BE TALKING, UM, ABOUT, UH, MENTAL HEALTH.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON A ZOOM MEETING TODAY ABOUT THAT, AND JUST BEING SENSITIVE TO, YOU KNOW, THE CULTURAL LEARNERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH ON OF COURSE, COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACK AT, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH INEQUITIES.

AND SO WITH EMOTIONAL, UM, ISSUES IS PROBLEMATIC, ESPECIALLY DURING THE COVID.

SO YOU'RE SEEING ARISE AND, UM, AND, AND PEOPLE OF COLOR COMMUNITIES WITH DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, UM, YOU KNOW, SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

SO I'VE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO, UM, A GENTLEMAN AT HAKUNA WELLNESS, AND WE'RE ALL DOING THAT.

SO MYSELF, DR.

FISHER COLEEN PARKER, THESE ARE, UM, WE'VE FORMED AND JOHN, JOHN HOTLINE, ANYTIME WE'VE KIND OF FORMED A LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, WHAT THE NEXT, UM, PRESENTATION WILL LOOK LIKE.

SO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WITH DR.

FISHER IS A PART OF, HAS BEEN HELPING MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS AS WELL AS HOLLY.

SO WE WILL MEET AGAIN ON FRIDAY TO TRY TO DETERMINE WHO WILLING TO HELP US, UM, CAUSE WE'VE ALL DONE OUR DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE HAVEN'T REALLY CONNECTED AND SPOKE ABOUT THAT.

SO ON FRIDAY, UM, WE'RE ALSO MEETING AT THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE THERE WAS TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE STAFF AT THE HOSPITAL.

UM, BUT I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL THAT WANT TO GET INVOLVED THERE.

AFRICAN-AMERICAN JUDY PIERCE IS ONE PERSON, UM, AND KADENA BROWN, AND SHE HAS BEEN ONE ZOOM MEETING, BUT BECAUSE OF THEIR BUSY WORK SCHEDULES, THEY HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO PARTICIPATE ON THE WEDNESDAY ZOOM MEETING.

SO WE'RE TAKING THE MEETING TO THEM AT THE HOSPITAL AND THE OUTDOOR CAFE AT THE WEATHER PERMITS.

SO TO SEE HOW WE CAN GET THE, PERHAPS THE HOSPITAL INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT AS AN ASSET.

UM, SO THAT'S, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

AND SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PIECING THAT TOGETHER, BUT THIS ONE GENTLEMAN, UM, WHO IS A LICENSED, UM, CLINICAL, UM, LICENSED CLINICAL, I HAVE TO THINK ADDICTION SPECIALIST.

HE, I REACHED OUT TO HIM, UM, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF WHAT I SAID I WOULD DO.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HE WAS WILLING, HE WANTED TO COME INTO THE MEETING, HE'S WILLING TO HELP.

OF COURSE, UH, HE SAID, WHAT'S YOUR TARGET ART AUDIENCE.

SO I EXPLAINED TO HIM, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE WORKING, YOU KNOW, IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

AND YEAH, HE SAID, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN PROBLEMATIC THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AFRICAN-AMERICANS TYPICALLY DON'T GO FOR THERAPY.

SO HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT? SO HE'S WILLING TO HELP IN ANY WAY HE CAN.

AND I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH HOLLY AND DR. FISHER THEY'VE HAD SIMILAR FEEDBACK, SO WE'LL TRY TO GET, UM, THAT CORE GROUP TOGETHER.

AND WHEN I'M SPEAKING TO, UM, THE PASTOR, UH, TODAY, HE WAS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALSO, UM, THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THAT AS HOW WE CAN TAKE THAT INFORMATION THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DISSENT AND DISSEMINATE IT THROUGH THE CHURCHES, THROUGH FAITH.

SO THEY'RE WORKING FROM THAT AND PASTOR HOMES AT FIRST MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.

UM, I ALSO HAD, UM, SOME HELP FROM CARL IPOD.

SO WE'RE KEEPING HIM INVOLVED AND HE'S WILLING TO, UM, ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.

SO, UM, PASTOR HOMES AND CAR, I POP, WE'LL BE TALKING, UM, THIS WEEK AS WELL, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO COVER, UH, NOT JUST ADULTS, BUT ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE CAN OCCUR IN FAMILIES, ESPECIALLY FAMILIES THAT HAVE SINGLE PARENTS WORKING MULTIPLE JOBS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IF YOU'RE DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, LEARNING THAT IS REMOTE? SO THE CHURCH HAS IN FACT HAD TAKEN 12 STUDENTS, UM, AND IS WORKING WITH THOSE STUDENTS, UM, WHO MIGHT BE AT RISK.

SO THAT WAS GOOD TO HEAR SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE START BUILDING ON THAT AS WELL.

UM, THE OTHER PART OF IS, UM, NOT ONLY LIKE THE PHYSICAL HEALTH ASPECT OF COVID, BUT IT'S TO ALSO START, UM, WITH, UH, SOME TYPE OF LECTURE SERIES ON, YOU KNOW, CULTURAL AWARENESS, UM, AND IDENTITY FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

AND MR. JONES, YOU KNOW, THIS IS

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WHERE HE'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL.

HE HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH DR.

BRUCE BRIDGES.

WHO'S AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORIAN AND MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER.

AND SO IN TANDEM WITH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COVID SERIES ASPECT, WE WILL TRY TO, UM, BRING DR.

BRUCE BRIDGES BACK.

HE'S BEEN HERE, HE WAS HERE IN 2016 WITH SOME TYPE OF VIRTUAL PRESENTATION.

BOTH OF THESE PRESENTATIONS WILL BE VIRTUAL.

UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

WE'VE JUST BEEN KIND OF WORKING STEADILY, UM, YOU KNOW, AS THINGS COME UP, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

UM, JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER? DO YOU WANT TO MENTION THAT? UM, I GUESS I REALLY WANTED TO SAY THAT THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, THE LAST ONE IS BELIEVE, AND I WORKING WITH THIS COMMITTEE HAS MADE ME BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING POSITIVE AHEAD OF US.

WE BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, WE RE, UH, THE COMMUNITY IS BEGINNING TO REACH OUT TO US.

IT'S MORE THAN JUST, UM, UH, PASSING OF INFORMATION, BUT IT'S TAPPING WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE.

AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT UNTIL WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER IS NEEDED, ONE OF THE IDEAS WAS THAT WE USE THE CHURCHES AS A FOUNDATION FOR HELPING THE COMMUNITY WITH CURRENT HEALTH NEEDS.

UM, NOT BEING THIS THOUGHT, UH, UH, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, MENTAL ISSUES.

AND, UH, WE ARE THINKING ABOUT, UH, AS, UH, AS THE VEHICLE FOR THAT HAVING A COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER, THAT CAN BE THE LIAISON BETWEEN THE, OUR SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, THE, UH, THE FULL COMMITTEE AND WHAT THE HEALTH NEEDS ARE OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE JUST BEGUN TO EXPLORE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE CAN PULL THAT OFF.

UH, MAYBE THE, UM, HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HELP US WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR FUNCTION, BUT, UH, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S WORTH PURSUING AS A VEHICLE FOR THE, UM, REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO HAVE TO MEET SOME, SOME, SOME OF THE UNIVERSAL HEALTH NEEDS OF, OF THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

OH, ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

SO WE JUST CONTINUE, UM, TO WORK AND, UM, YEAH, AND I JUST, UH, I KNOW I SAID JOHN, ON THE GROUP, UH, AN ARTICLE THAT I FOUND THAT IT'S, IT WAS CALLED KAREN FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR DURING COVID.

AND OF COURSE IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT I TOUCHED UPON JUST NOW, BUT, UM, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A LINK TO ANOTHER GROUP.

UM, AND THEN, SO THE ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION IT'S AWARD FOR HEALTH EQUITY, THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS GIVEN THIS AWARD, UM, SORT OF GROUP OF BLACK, EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL HEALTH, UM, COLLECTED THEME IS THE ACRONYM.

SO WE WERE JOHN AND I, AND THE GROUP OF THE KIND OF THINKING, BUT THIS WAS JOHN'S IDEA.

UM, YOU KNOW, HE VERBALIZED IT THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN CONTINUE TO, UM, KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF OUR MINDS.

CAUSE WHAT THEY DO IS THEY TRAIN, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF TRAINING FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR COMMUNITY EITHER YOU'RE AN ACTIVIST OR PEOPLE FROM THIS TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, THE GROUP THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH ON REDEVELOPMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES, PEERS, AND THEN OF COURSE HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS AND CARE PROVIDERS.

UM, BUT GIVING THEM TRAINING IN DEALING WITH THE ISSUES, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, EMOTIONAL ISSUES, UM, IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING EVEN LONGTERM TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, PURSUE THAT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, YES, ABSOLUTELY.

I WOULD LIKE, I LET HER BUY THEM SOMEWHERE THAT THEY PEOPLE ALL OF YOUR OWN WORK.

COULD WE GO TO NEIGHBORHOODS? YEAH.

NEIGHBORHOOD REAL QUICK.

UM, I WALKED AND DROVE THROUGH THERE OUR NEXT 29TH AREA, WHICH IS, UH, THE OTHER SIDE OF CRAIG AND TIME HAS GONE BY SEEING THE BURN QUEEN, UM, BOXING WITH MATT MONTANA, UM, AND DROVE THROUGH IT.

AND, UH, HE'S SCHEDULING A CLEANUP THERE FOR THE 25TH OF SEPTEMBER.

IT'LL BE A VERY QUICK ONE, MOSTLY.

AND I WENT THROUGH WITH ROBBIE A COUPLE TIMES ALSO.

AND, UH, IT'S NOT A LOT OF LITTER AND TRASH TYPES OF THINGS, BUT IT'S MORE OF A, UH, MORE OF A VEGETATION ISSUE AND A STREET CLEANING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'LL BE A HALF DAY WORK FOR HIM.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY JUMP DOWN AND THAT WE'LL NEED TO DO, Y'ALL BE AVAILABLE.

I WILL BE OKAY.

WHAT TIME IS IT? HEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE LAST TIME IT'LL STILL PROBABLY EVEN START MOBILIZING THE DAY BEFORE AND KICK IT OFF, LIKE STANDING IN THE MORNING KIND OF DEAL.

BUT I GIVE THEM ALL THOSE DETAILS FROM THAT.

OKAY.

UM, I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM LIKE, DARST

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GOING DOWN, RISE AND SUN DARCY BACK IN THAT AREA, THERE ARE A LOT OF TRASH AND OVERGROWTH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COULD BE INCLUDED ON THAT AREA AS YOU WALK IN, USED TO BE DEFINITELY A BAD CAUSE I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF COMPLAINTS.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S, THREE OR FOUR RIVERS MORTON FUNERAL HOME.

I'M TRYING TO THINK MORE REESE.

YES.

HE'S A REGULAR COLWELL OR ABOUT THE TRASH AND THAT DOWN THAT SIDE, THAT OAK THAT'S ON THE SIDE OF IT.

WE, WE HAVE ADDRESSED SOME OF THAT.

UH, JEFF AND I, AS HE SAID, WE ROLLED OUT AND WE'VE DONE A LITTLE WALKING INTO REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND WE STILL HAVE BODY.

WE STILL HAVE BODY.

AND WHENEVER THEY SEE US NOW, THEY WILL RECOGNIZE JEFF.

THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THEY ARE KEEPING A LOT OF THE UPKEEP, THEIR SALES I'VE SEEN IT.

JEFF HAS SEEN IT MORE SO BACK WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DORIS REIZENSTEIN BACKUP IN THAT AREA WAS WHERE MRS. SIMMONS HAS ACQUIRED HER RISK, THAT HOPS, UH, THAT WE HAD SPOKEN ON.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US ALSO, IT'S NOT A LOT OF OVERGROWN IN THAT AREA UNTIL YOU COME BACK DOWN WITH THE LITTLE SIDE STREET THAT IS IN THE BACK OF GOOD SHEPHERD RIGHT NOW, THERE IS SOME SHEPHERD, BUT PAST THAT, IT'S MOSTLY, UH, DEBRIS TRASH, NOT AS MUCH DUMPING AS WE HAD SEEN RECENTLY, BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO GAIN MORE AND MORE PARTNERS AS IT RELATES TO RESIDENTS THAT WILL BE COMING OUT WITH THE SALSA.

OKAY.

WHO OWNS IT? UM, THAT'S THE LAST CONVERSATION I HAD WAS THE COUNTY WAS PROBABLY GOING TO BE TAKING IT.

UM, I JUST MADE MYSELF A NOTE TO GET UP WITH JACK BECAUSE WE HAD MANY COMPLAINTS.

SO I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH HIM ABOUT IT, MET WITH THE SAMSON'S ABOUT IT.

SO SINCE IT'S IN MY WARD, UM, IDEALLY GET AN UPDATE AND SEE IF THAT TIMELY HAPPENED, BUT SEE, SHE'D COME IN.

AND I THINK SO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FINALIZED, BUT I'LL FIND THAT OUT AND LET YOU ALL KNOW.

I, YOU THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD BE AWARE AND ALL ABOUT ME.

YES, SIR.

AND DECIDES TO CLEAN UP ON THE 25TH, IS THAT SO ELICITING THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE BOARD OR IS THAT SOLELY YOU KIND OF DIRECTING PUBLIC WORKS? UM, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE PUBLIC WORKS AT THIS POINT, BUT I WOULD AVOID, CAN JUST LIKE LAST TIME IT WAS, UH, ANYONE STOP BY, WE'RE INVITING EVERYONE TO COME OUT.

THESE WE'RE NOT ENLISTING THE HELP OF THE RESIDENTS AS OF YET BECAUSE OF THE SPIKE IN THE NUMBERS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT ORGANIZED AS SUCH.

AND IT WORKED SO WELL WITH MATT MONTANA WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS IF IT'S NOT BROKEN RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO REINVENT THE WHEEL AND FIX SOMETHING THAT'S WORKING WELL, BUT WE STILL HAD THE BUY-IN.

AND AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ON THEIR OWN IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT THERE, POLICING THOSE SALES, THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF THEIR OWN PROPERTIES AND THEY'RE SEEING US AND TO BE VISIBLE, BUT TO BE VISIBLE IS REALLY WORKING WONDERS.

RIGHT.

BUT YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSIONERS ARE URGED TO GO TO GO OUT BECAUSE IT HELPS ALL OF US TO SEE BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT THAN YOU, YOU SEE IT ON THE GROUND AND YOU DRIVING BY, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS TO, TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE SEAT.

SO PLEASE, IF YOU CAN STOP BY DURING THAT TIME, THEY ARE, UM, ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALL HOUSING.

YEAH.

SO JUST TO PUT A BOW ON THAT AS WELL, HOLD ON, MEET WITH MATT ONE MORE TIME AND TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT WE TOUCHED ON, MAKE SURE IT'S GOT THE EQUIPMENT AND TOOLS AND THE PEOPLE DOING THAT STUFF.

AND THEN ONCE IT'S ALL WORKED OUT, UM, I'LL SEND OUT EMAIL TO YOU ALL AND LET YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

UM, 10 23 ABOLISH STREET THAT DUE DILIGENCE HAS SAID TO INSPIRE US, OR AT LEAST IMPORTANTLY BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.

SO WE NEED TO ACT ON A, ON WHAT WE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT, UH, OFFER.

UM, I SENT OUT THE ENGINEER STRUCTURAL REPORT.

UM, WE MET A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.

I

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FEEL LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, KIP, UH, GAVE US HIS COMMENTED WRITING, UM, AND, UH, DUE TO THE, UH, REALLY A CONFLUENCE OF PERFECT STORM OF EVENTS, UH, THE IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PURCHASE AT THIS TIME.

UM, MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE, UH, JUST A 100% PLUS SPIKE IN CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UM, AND IT'S REALLY, UH, IT DOESN'T, UM, MAKE THE PROJECT UNDOABLE.

IT'S JUST AT THAT POINT.

I MEAN, UH, AGAIN, UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY COST WITH, UH, THE MONEY THAT WE PUT INTO IT THAT WE CAN PROBABLY GET MORE BANG OUR BUCK IN OTHER PLACES AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

BUT, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, STEVE, I'M PROBABLY TAKING A LOT OF YOUR THUNDER, BUT THAT'S KIND OF A WRAP.

OH, WELL, I'M GOING TO, FIRST OF ALL, THANK CITY STAFF IN REGARDS TO THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THAT.

UM, THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT PUT INTO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT VISITS AND THE ENGINEER'S REPORT AND THE VARIOUS, BUT BETH GO OUT AND DO HER WORK ON THAT KID AND MAKE A TRIP OUT.

UM, SO, UM, THE, THE, THE THING THAT I WOULD, UH, VERY MUCH KIND OF ECHO ON THIS IS THIS EXERCISE HAS BEEN EXACTLY WHAT THE GROUP NEEDED TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE ACQUISITION AND GETTING THAT, THAT TYPE OF WORK.

SO THE END RESULT IS THAT THE PROCESS WORKS EXACTLY LIKE YOU SHOULD.

WE SAW AN OPPORTUNITY, WE SEIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT DID SO IN A CALCULATED MATTER THAT ALLOW US TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SEE IF IT WAS ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE A WISE INVESTMENT.

WE ALL SAT AROUND THE TABLE COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK NOW AND SAY, WELL, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE A REDUCED RETURN IN ORDER FOR THE GOOD THAT WE COME OUT OF IT.

SOCIAL WISE WHAT'S ULTIMATELY HAPPENED IS WITH THE INCREASING COST.

AND JEFF MENTIONED, AND FINDING OUT MORE ABOUT WHAT THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES ARE WITH THE PROPERTY THAT THE END RESULT IS WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE A REDUCED RETURN COMPARED TO A PRIVATE INVESTOR IS VERY, VERY LITTLE IF ANY, AND EVEN THE SOCIAL GOOD THAT COMES FROM IT.

INTRODUCE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FINAL DETERMINATION THAT IT WOULD ONLY BE TWO, THREE MINUTES OR ONE, THREE BEDROOM, 1, 2, 3, 3 BEDROOMS. SO ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE MATH SHAKES OUT TO WHERE, WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE A PROJECT THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY GET INTO FOR TWO 50 OR A LITTLE MORE TOTAL, WHENEVER IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE IS VERY MUCH LOOKING LIKE A PROJECT.

NOW THAT WE'RE GOOD.

I CAN SAY YOU'RE RIGHT NOW, EASILY WORK MY WAY AT THE THREE VIDEO WITHOUT BATTING AN EYELASH.

SO AT THREE 50, IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO GO FORWARD.

WHENEVER WE CAN FIND OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

AND WE KIND OF HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, TRYING TO JUST TRYING TO STEER CITY STAFF TOWARDS THE PROJECTS THAT FOCUS ON OTHERWISE, OR AT LEAST THE GENERAL TYPES OF PROPERTIES WE'LL LOOK FOR.

UM, BUT I WOULD VERY MUCH ECHO THAT THE PROCESS WORKED, THIS, THIS IS NOT A FAILURE OR A, A BAD DECISION MAY TWO MONTHS AGO OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THIS HAS TO BE PROCESSED WORKING EXACTLY THE WAY IT SHOULD.

AS, AS A PUBLIC BOARD, WE HAVE TRANSPARENCY THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A CERTAIN LIGHT SHOWN ON US, GIVES THEM THE SAME POINT THAT WE, AS A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY HAD TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE WE CAN DO IT RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT STEP PUBLICLY BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING UNTIL OUR RULES CHANGE OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

SO WE, WE EXECUTED OUR PROCESS PERFECTLY AND CAME TO THE ULTIMATE DECISION AT THE END OF THE DAY.

NOW THAT WHAT LOOKED LIKE IT POTENTIALLY HAD SOME OPPORTUNITY, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE MENTAL IS NOT ONE BASED ON THAT, BUT THE DILIGENCE HAS BEEN DONE.

THANK YOU.

SO, SO ALL OF YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK STAY UP YONDER AND THEN, UH, MEDICINE, UH, JONATHAN, YOU SAID, OH, IT WAS NOT LOST.

PROPERTY COULD END UP REVERTING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

NOW WHAT HAPPENS? CHANGES.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

AND LIKE I SAID, THE GREAT VALUE NOW IS WE HAVE NOW WORK ON OUR PROCESS OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

WE'VE GOT THE PUNCH LIST.

WE NEED TO WORK OUT IN THE ORDERING OF HOW THESE WORK IN THE CONTEXT OF FOLLOW UP ON.

SO WE ARE NOW IN A BETTER POSITION FOR THE NEXT ONE TO NOT NEED 45 DAYS ON NEW DEAL.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND A LOT FASTER.

YEAH.

I THINK EVERYBODY, BUT, UM, THERE'S ONE THING WE NEED FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE'VE SEPARATED INTO COMMUNITIES, BE REMINDED THAT YOU HAVE ONE COMMISSION AND SO WE NEED EACH OTHER'S HELP, NO MATTER WHAT COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE SENDING THEM SORT OF HOUSING.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SEE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE FOR YOU, US, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT IN THE FLOOD ZONE.

WE NEED TO BE OUTSIDE

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OF THAT.

THAT'S I KNOW THAT'S A CHALLENGE, BUT THIS, BUT IT'S OUT HERE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, UH, COULD USE ALL, BUT RIGHT NOW WE VOTED TO MOVE HER HEAD.

AND SO NOW WE NEED TO, WELL NOT TO.

AND SO, UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UH, ANY COMP COMMENTS THAT NOT GIVE EMOTION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU.

I SAID IT AND HE SOLD HER, RIGHT? UH, THEY DON'T HAVE RESIDENTIAL

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REGISTRATION PROGRAM, SO THIS WILL BE RELATIVELY QUICK.

UM, WHY CAN'T I SEE IT? OKAY.

UM, THREE BIG SLIDES.

I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT.

UM, I DID A LOT MORE DIGGING INTO, WE HAVE TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE PLAN TO DO.

AND ONE IS A RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM AND THE OTHER IS THE RENTAL REGISTRATION FOR THE RENTAL REGISTRATION.

ONE IS THE ONE THAT'S A LITTLE GRAY RIGHT NOW, STILL ARE WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS, BUT THE RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM IS FREE TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, UH, SO WE DO HAVE A GENERAL AUTHORITY UNDER OUR 2017 UPDATES AS GENERAL STAT, JUST FORWARD A BUNCH OF REASONABLE CAUSES, UH, THAT ARE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH THIS RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM, UNLESS IT'S IN THE TARGET AREA LO THE WHOLE, THE TARGET AREA IS A REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

SO WE HAVE MEET, WE HAVE MET THE THRESHOLD TO CREATE ONE JUST BY BEING A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION THAT WE FIND REBUTTING AND EVERY BOUNDARY, EVERYTHING IN OUR BOUNDARY IS IN THE TARGET AREA.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

UM, SO THERE'S FOUR THINGS THAT, UH, NEED TO HAPPEN.

UM, ALREADY DONE THIS, HERE WE GO.

SO IT HAVE THE TARGET AREA REFLECTIONS THERE.

DO WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T READ IT ON THE PLAN DONE? UM, WELL, THIS IS WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING, UM, THAT THE AREA HAS TO BE CONSIDERED LIGHTED AS THE SAME TERM AS IS DEFINED IN THE REDEVELOPMENT LAW THAT WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HAVING A PLANNING COMMISSION DETERMINED BY THE PARCELS, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT.

OKAY.

IT'S NOT THE SAME PROCESS THAT A STRAIGHT THE RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM, AS IT IS TO CREATE THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN BLIGHTED PARCELS.

THIS GIVES US THE AUTHORITY TO USE EMINENT DOMAIN.

THERE'S NO AUTHORITY TO USE EMINENT DOMAIN UNDER THIS PROCESS OF CREATING THE LIGHTED AREA.

SO WHAT I'LL HAVE TO DO, UM, WHY DON'T WE GO TO, WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ALL THE MEN AND REQUEST THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA BE CONSIDERED A BLIGHTED AREA FOR THE, UM, FOR THE, UM, TERMS OF CREATING THIS RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM.

AT THAT SAME TIME, WE GOT THE WHOLE, THE PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT THE INTENT TO CREATE, UH, THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM.

AND ALSO MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE NEED TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO ADDRESS THE ABILITY OF LOW-INCOME RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS TO COMPLY WITH THE MINIMUM CODE STANDARDS.

WE HAVE THAT ALREADY IN OUR CDBG PROGRAM.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO WORK ON IRAN, I'LL WORK WITH THE ASIA AND, UH, AND AMANDA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN JUST REFERENCE OUR EXISTING, WHICH WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT LAST NIGHT, UM, PROGRAM THAT WE HAD FOR FIVE AND FIVE YEARS IN OUR CDBG PROGRAM ABOUT, UH, FIXING UP HOUSES, UM, REPAIR PROGRAM.

AND WE'LL JUST USE THAT PROGRAM AS THE KIND OF CATCHALL.

IF WE GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNER, UM, PERSON WHO LIVES THERE OWNS A PROPERTY THAT HAS A PROBLEM WITH THESE MIDDLE HOUSING CODE STANDARDS, THIS DOESN'T, THERE IS NO DIFFERENTIATION PROGRAM BETWEEN A RENTER AND I UNOCCUPIED OWNER OCCUPIED STRUCTURES.

SO IT'S JUST MINIMUM HOUSING.

SO IT'S STILL THE, UM, GIVES ANY INSPECTOR THE RIGHT TO GO INSPECT THE PROPERTY, WHETHER IT IS, UM, OWNED BY THE LANDOWNER OR IT'S ALL RENTED.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE DID THE CLEANUP AND WE SPOKE TO THAT GENTLEMAN ABOUT HIS HOUSE, WE HAD TO WAIT FOR HIM

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TO ACTUALLY GET, WE HAD TO GO TRACK HIM DOWN AND TO GET OUR MINIMAL HOUSING INSPECTOR.

AND HE HAD TO GIVE US THE OKAY TO GO INTO THE PROPERTY.

DON'T REALLY NEED THAT ANYMORE.

WE JUST NEED TO GIVE NOTICE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO IN AND THAT'S IT.

UM, SO THE RESPONSE, I'M SORRY, THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES ON THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, YOU CAN ENTER THE PROPERTY BASED ON A RENTER.

YEAH.

YOU GUYS, THE PROPERTY YOU'RE SPENDING AT THE END OF THE PROPERTY, BASED ON IT'S IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND IN THE PROGRAM.

YEAH.

SO THERE'S NO PROBABLE CAUSE REQUIRED.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO WE'LL GO FORWARD WITH THAT.

THE ONLY REAL DETAILS THAT I WANT TO GO TO THE BOARD WITH WITHOUT, I DON'T WANT TO GO IN PIECES AND ASK A BLIGHTED AND NOT HAVE THE WHOLE PROGRAM TOGETHER.

SO WE'LL PUT TOGETHER THE PLAN AND SOUTH WE'LL HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM, UM, HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, GO TO THE BOARD, PROBABLY HOLD THE HUB PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT IT, GO TO THE BOARD ABOUT THE LIGHTED PARCELS ON THE SAME AGENDA, OR MAYBE BEFORE IT, I'LL TALK TO SCOTT AND WE'LL HAVE A PART OF THAT PLAN THAT ADDRESSES THE LOW INCOME RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND HOW IT WILL GO THROUGH THAT.

YOU CAN SEE THE PG PROGRAM IN ORDER TO DO THAT DON'T ANTICIPATE, OR IN MUCH ISSUES WITH THAT.

WE'RE A COUPLE, AND THAT'S WHAT THE CBD PROGRAM IS FOR.

SO IT'S NOT JEFF.

MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IS IF YOU COULD MAKE IT AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE.

I ALREADY KNOW THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ASKED.

AND THE ONE I'M SURE ALDERMAN BEST WOULD ASK IS THAT SHE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE SENIOR CITIZENS THAT OWN THEIR OWN HOMES, AND DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO REPAIR THE HABIT, RIGHT? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET TREATED? WHAT STEPS WILL THEY TAKE JUST TO ALLOW IT NOT TO BECOME DRAGGED OUT.

IF WE COULD ANTICIPATE I HAVE TO PLAY OFFENSE AND DEFENSE AND B ANTICIPATE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK.

UM, I COULD SEE THAT THOSE WOULD BE THE QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, A FEELING OF ARE WE, IS THIS A PROGRAM I KNEW IT'D ONLY BE IN THIS AREA, BUT WILL OBLIGE, DID PROGRAM WORK FOR ANY OTHER PART OF NEWBURGH? IT WON'T.

CAUSE I, I HAVE THIS FEELING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY, ARE YOU PICKING ON MARGINALIZED PEOPLE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN OUR CITY, TRY TO ANTICIPATE THE QUESTIONS.

AND AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE DOING VA CAN DO IT.

THERE'S GOTTA BE A THERE'S.

UM, AS A LOT OF OTHER, THERE'S A LOT MORE DIFFICULT HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH IF YOU'RE NOT IN A REDEVELOPMENT AREA, A LOT MORE UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH.

THAT'S GREAT.

IS THERE AN ADVOCACY COMPONENT? THIS, LIKE, IF YOU WERE LOOKING LIKE THAT QUESTION COMES UP, RIGHT.

SO HOW DOES THAT WORK WHEN YOU DEVELOP A PLAN TO ADDRESS THE ABILITY? SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE.

HAS, UH, HAS EVERY GUIDELINE, HOW HAS A WHOLE PROGRAM ON DOING THAT? AND WE'RE JUST COMING TO REFERENCE THAT PROGRAM, THAT WHEN WE ENTER A HOME OR WE HAVE A HOUSING ISSUE AND THERE IS A LOW INCOME HOMEOWNER PROPERTY OWNER LIVING THERE, WE'LL PUT THEM THROUGH THE CMV WAS OKAY, IT'S GOING TO COST $30,000 TO FIX UP THE HOUSE TO MAKE IT, TO GET TO MINIMUM STANDARDS.

WE'LL GO PUT THEM RIGHT THROUGH THE CDBG PROGRAM.

AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO WHEN I'M MAD MEN TO OUR PLAN ON EACH INDIVIDUAL.

ONE, AGAIN, I DON'T ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX OF THESE THINGS COMING IN.

WE'VE HAD THIS PROGRAM FOR FIVE YEARS AND WE'VE PROBABLY DONE 12 OR 13 HOUSES RIGHT OUT OF PROBABLY 60, 70 PEOPLE THAT HAVE APPLIED TO DO IT.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THROUGH A LOT OF HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH.

UM, WHICH REALLY MAKES ME THINK MOST OF THE PROBLEMS COME FROM TITLES.

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE CLEAN TITLE ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN AND THEY DON'T, AND THEN WE CAN'T USE CDBG FUNDS.

SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WHATEVER THAT IS AND WE MAY HAVE TO, YEAH, YOU NEED TO BE AS SPECIFIC AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE EVEN WITH THAT, I HAVE, I HAVE A FEELING THAT COME BACK WOULD BE WELL, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE HUD RULE? SO I GOT IT ALL.

OKAY.

I KNOW YOU DID.

I KNOW THAT WILL BE PART OF THE QUESTIONING.

AND I WANT TO TRY TO MAKE THIS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP FOR US AND HELPING, HELPING YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTIES.

BUT I WOULD ALMOST RATHER GO AFTER THE LANDLORDS FIRST AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RENTALS VERSUS WELL RESIDENTS.

AGAIN, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE.

I UNDERSTAND.

I UNDERSTAND.

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME LANDLORDS THAT ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR PROPERTIES.

I MEAN, NOW THOSE WILL BE THE ONES WHERE WE HAVE THE BIGGEST ISSUE, THE EASIEST, THOSE ARE THE LOW HANGING FRUIT IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WAS SCREEN WAS ASKING FOR.

WOULD IT BE WISE TO SEPARATE THE BLOOD PARCEL CONVERSATION AND THE BLOOD AREA CONVERSATION SO THAT CAUSE YOU'VE GOT DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS FOR THAT TERM ON THE SAME AGENDA.

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PEOPLE WERE GOING TO USE THE SAME DEFINITION IN DIFFERENT PLACE.

WELL, THIS IS ONE TIME MAYBE I'M NOT BEING CLEAR.

UM, SO THIS IS THE STEP RIGHT THERE MADE THAT AREA, CORRECT BLOOD.

AND THEN LATER ON YOU SAID THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT TARGET BLOOD RIP-OFF PARCELS THAT THEY'RE TOTALLY SEPARATE.

OKAY.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THE SAME AGENDA.

SO YEAH, I'M DOING THAT FOR YOU GUYS, JUST TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND IT'S DIFFICULT.

IT'S THE SAME DEFINITION, THE SAME WORD, BUT IT'S USED FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE PERIOD.

YEAH.

THIS PROCESS OF CREATING THIS RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM REQUIRES THAT THE GOVERNING BOARD DETERMINE THAT THE AREA IS WHITE AND THAT'S IT THAT HAS, THAT CARRIES WITH IT.

NO OTHER AUTHORITIES, UM, AS FAR AS EMINENT DOMAIN EMINENT DOMAIN POWERS OF HAVING BLIGHT AND PARCELS COMES FROM THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, COUNSELOR, I'M SORRY.

I'M NOT DOING, BUT THAT'S THE REASONING WHY IT WILL NOT WORK IN ANY OTHER AREA IN THE CITY BECAUSE THE FREE DEVELOPMENT AREA HAS ALREADY BEEN DEEMED AS BLIGHT.

CORRECT.

AND WE ALREADY KNOW WHO THESE PERSONS ARE THAT OWN, THIS LOW-HANGING FRUIT THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.

AND SO THE, WELL WE'LL TALK ABOUT PLACEMENT AT ANOTHER TIME.

YES.

SO JUST THINKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING ASPECT OF IT AND TRYING TO ANTICIPATE IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT ALL OF THEM HAVE SUGGESTED SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY, MAYBE NOT BEING AS FAMILIAR WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT POOLS OF MONEY AND THESE SUITS.

UM, ONE THING THAT'S EXTREMELY STARTLING TO ME, IF I TAKE A MAYBE FIVE FOOT STEP BACK FROM THIS PROCESS IS THE IDEA THAT THE CITY CAN COME INTO MY HOUSE AND RUMMAGE AROUND IN MY BUSINESS.

OKAY.

THAT BAR IS EXTREMELY DISLIKED.

SO I WOULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT MORE SO THAN THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW IN OUR PRESENTATION OF THIS INFORMATION, BE IT TO THE BOARD OR TO THE COMMUNITY OR WHOMEVER ABOUT WHAT THIS ACTUALLY MEANS.

SO ONCE THE INK IS DRY ON WHATEVER DOCUMENT THAT GIVES US THE POWER TO DO THIS, DOES THAT MEAN THAT AT SIX 40 IN THE EVENING ON WEDNESDAY, I'M GOING TO GO KICK IN SOMEBODY'S DOOR AND SAY, THE TOILET'S NOT RIGHT.

YOU GOT TO GET OUT.

WHAT, WHAT IS PRACTICALLY, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE CITIZENS LIVE THIS COMMUNITY.

THEY ALREADY GOING TO BE OFFENDED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE GOT TO GET PAST THAT, BUT I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THE ROLLOUT IS GOING TO BE PERCEIVED BY THE WAY YES.

FERMENTATION PLAN AND YOUR OPERATIONS SPELLED OUT.

, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.

AND I'M, YOU KNOW, JUST TO ANSWER THAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS WILL BE, MAYBE WE SET, WE MAKE, WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN PROCESS.

WE CAN SEND A LETTER, A CERTIFIED LETTER SAYING, YOU KNOW, ON 10 DAYS FROM NOW, WE WILL BE CONDUCTING AN INSPECTION ON YOUR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, AND JUST LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IT IS.

UM, I LIKE, AGAIN, I DON'T ANTICIPATE US GOING INTO HOMES.

UM, CAUSE WE ALREADY KIND OF KNOW THAT, NO, I AGREE WITH YOU 100%, BUT NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATION DON'T KNOW THE INTENTION DON'T KNOW THE ANALYSIS ALREADY GONE FORWARD.

SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING INTO HOME OWNERS, THE ONES WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY OWNING THEIR HOMES AND LIVING IN THEIR RESIDENCE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING THERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT OF SOME OF THE LANDLORDS THAT WE KNOW HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT UP TO CODE THAT THEY KNOW IT'S NOT UP TO CODE, BUT THEY CAN'T GET ANY SATISFACTION FROM LANDLORD.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE GET TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH ONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS FIRST, CORRECT? THE SYSTEM.

WE DON'T KEEP CHOOSING THAT, CORRECT.

APRIL WHO ARE LIVING IN A HOME OR SOMEWHERE THAT IS THEY'RE AT THE MERCY OF THEIR LANDLORD.

THEY CAN REPORT THAT AND THEN HAVE AN INSPECTOR COME.

YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

NOW WHAT WE FOUND BAD IS NOBODY WANTS, I MEAN, LITERALLY NOBODY WANTS TO BE THROWN OUT OF THEIR HOME AND THAT'S, AND THAT REALLY, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

IT MAY NOT BE AS ABRUPT AS I WAS

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WHEN LET'S SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT DOES HAPPEN.

THE END, THE LANDLORD DOES NOT BRING UP THE CODE WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME.

AND THEN THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO LEAVE NOW, ARE WE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TEMPORARY OR FOR PERMANENT PLACEMENT OF THOSE RESIDENTS? CAN I MAY HAVE TO TOO.

SO I GUESS WE CAN, WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.

RIGHT? SO THERE'S TWO, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT EITHER.

WE JUST FIGURE OUT A WAY TO INCREMENTALLY DO THE WORK WHILE NOT, I MEAN, THEY'RE LIVING IN THE HOME NOW.

THERE'S VERY FEW SCENARIOS, SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE TO SO UNSAFE, EVEN THE HOME THAT WE WENT INTO ON SECOND HALF WAS NOT, DIDN'T MEET THE UNSAFE, YOU KNOW, THRESHOLD FROM OUR INSPECTORS AND OUR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL.

IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T GOOD, BUT IT WASN'T UNSAFE.

AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A HARD, THAT'S A HARD LINE TO GET TO, UM, THE OTHER OPTION.

THE FIRST ONE BEING JUST FIGURE OUT A WAY TO WORK TOGETHER.

UM, THE OTHER OPTION IS TO HAVE A PLACE WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT TO TEMPORARILY WHEN THESE SITUATIONS HAPPEN TO MOVE SOMETHING AND HAD WE NOT IDENTIFIED SOME OF THESE PLACES THAT MAY NOT BE IN THAT BAD OF SHAPE THAT CAN BE BOUGHT UP TO WHERE WE CAN USE THEM AS TEMPORARY HOUSING.

FOR SOME OF THESE THAT HAVE BEEN DISPLACED HERE, THAT WE WILL BE DISPLACED.

YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THAT.

WE CAN HOLD THE HOUSE FOR YEARS FOR THAT PURPOSE WHILE THIS PRODUCT, WHILE THIS PROGRAM WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH.

AND THEN AT THE END PUT A PERMANENT RESIDENT INTO IT, THE SAME GUIDELINES SAY, LET'S START ALL OF THAT REPAIR A HOME.

AND IT REQUIRED THAT, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARILY THAT PERSON WOULD BE DISPLACED FROM THEIR OWN.

THEY WOULD NEED, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD NEED A PLACE TO GO.

UM, SO YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE RELOCATED OR ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, THAT'S OUTLINED AND, UH, THE HUT GUIDANCE AS WELL.

UM, SO IT ALREADY EXISTS OUT THERE.

WE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, ARE AWARE OF IT, CORRECT.

I'M SORRY, JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT POINT FROM MY OWN UNDERSTANDING.

SO WE HAD IDENTIFIED, SO IF THIS PROGRAM WAS PUT IN PLACE TOMORROW AND SOMEONE NEEDED WAS DISPLACED TOMORROW BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, EITHER IT'S UNSAFE OR THEY NEED TO BE REMOVED TO GREENHOUSE HOUSE UP TO MINIMUM STANDARDS.

ARE THERE DWELLING PLACES RIGHT NOW WHERE SOMEONE COULD MOVE INTO CONTEMPORARY HOUSE? WE WOULD, WE WOULD BUY ONE BOTTLE AT A TIME AT ALL.

NO, WE'VE DONE PRESENTS $455,000.

YEAH.

MAYBE A REALLY SEVERE, BUT YEAH.

UM, THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

JUST CAN'T MOVE, YOU KNOW, DO THAT, DO THAT TO ALL PEOPLE.

SO I THINK EVERYBODY W WHAT WE ARE, ARE, ARE SEEING, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MANY OF US IN THIS ROOM HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH PEOPLE LIVING THE WAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN LIVING IN LANDLORDS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THIS IS A WAY TO GET THAT DONE.

SO WE'RE JUST SAYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SPELLED OUT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT DID THEY SAY ON THE EIGHTH GRADE EDUCATION LEVEL? SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO WHAT THAT JUST MEANS IS, YOU KNOW, AS WE USE NEWARK, LIKE MOST PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF MOST PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IT MEAN.

WE NEED TO SPELL IT OUT.

WHEN WE PUT THE WORD, WE JUST NEED TO PUT A DEFINITION OUT THERE, BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE WANTED, UH, THE BOUNDARY TO GO, WE HAD A COMMUNITY COME TO US.

AND BECAUSE WE WANTED THAT, WE HAD TO USE THE WORD BLACK MIDDLE.

AND THEY SAID, NO, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THAT.

BUT ALL THROUGHOUT ALL THE PLANS, THAT WORD IS, IS THERE, NOBODY PROBABLY PAID ANY ATTENTION, BUT IT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S ALREADY THERE.

AND WE KNOW, UH, RIGHT NOW IN THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE BUILDING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

SO ALL, ALL WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SAYING THIS, AND WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, UH, COMMISSION AND ALL OF US GOING TO HELP YOU, THAT IS, WE JUST GONNA MAKE SURE WE ARTICULATE IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED TO DO AND HELP, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY STAFF PUT IT TOGETHER AND LOOK AT IT AND THEN JUST, JUST GO FROM THERE.

BUT YOU GOT TO HAVE A PROGRAM.

YOU GOT TO STORE IT SOMEWHERE.

I KNOW, UM, YOU PROBABLY YEARS ARE ALREADY GREATEST THINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF VOLUME MARKETS.

AND SO THEY ARE THE GREATEST THINGS, YOU KNOW? UM, IT MIGHT NOT FEEL LIKE IT THAT DAY OR THAT NIGHT, OR MAYBE THE NEXT WEEK, WE'RE ABOUT THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, BUT WHY WE'D BE UP HERE IN THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT, WE HAVE THAT.

RIGHT.

SO THE THING IS I CAN SEE IT.

IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE NEW, BECAUSE WE GOT GOTTA START SOMEWHERE.

WE, I MEAN,

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WE DON'T HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS.

I KNOW.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S A NO, THAT'S, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S DO THIS.

LET'S JUST, LET'S DO IT.

AND DO, I CAN SEE IT, DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

SO IT'S LIKE WE DID TO THAT HOUSE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY BOARD AND, UM, A AND GET THIS AND GET THIS DONE.

SO IT'S MY VOICE.

DO YOU KNOW IF YOU GOT ANOTHER SPOT? I DON'T KNOW.

NO, I DON'T.

I JUST HAD IT THOUGH, BUT, UM, SO WHAT DOES THAT MAKE, UH, MAKE, UH, BRING A DRAFT OR I'LL JUST, I'LL PUT SOME THOUGHTS ON PAPER, ON HOW THE PROGRAM WILL WORK.

UM, I THINK FROM TALKING TO A COUPLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, I THINK THE TEMPORARY HOUSING THING IS SOMETHING THAT CAN WORK BOTH FOR THE HEALTH SIDE AND ALSO FOR THE RELOCATION SIDE.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE OF MAIN STREET.

WELL, CDBG FUNDS PAY TO MOVE HOUSES, MOVE HOUSES OF HOUSES.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HOUSES HAVE A HOUSE.

SHE CAN MOVE, HAVE FUNDS TO MOVE IT AND HAVE A PLACE TO MOVE IT.

THE CITY HAS TO HAVE, IT'S NOT BAD.

I MEAN, IT HELPS US IN BIG BROAD STREET.

IT IS A VERY GOOD CHECK.

YEAH.

THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN BUYING A HOUSE.

SO, PAUL, I THINK SOMETHING TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY, POSSIBLY TO LOOK AT, BECAUSE WE TOOK THE OLD COLONIAL FLOOR WHERE THE BLACK SWAN LIKES TO SUPPOSE THAT'S A HISTORIC HOME.

WE DON'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT SOMEPLACE IN THE STORE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

NO, THAT WAS A FLORIST CORNMEAL COLONIAL.

HUH.

BUT I DIDN'T NOTICE SOMETHING AND I DIDN'T KNOW CDP AND FUNDS.

I DON'T THINK SO.

I HAVEN'T HEARD OF THEM.

THAT'S IT.

SO ABOUT THE MONEY.

SO THE ONE IS THAT WE HAVE TO USE, SO IS THERE LIKE A BUDGET FOR PERMITTEES? LIKE HOW DOES THAT WORK? BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME MONEY.

WE, WE THINK OF PROGRAMS. IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL FOR USING SOME OF THOSE GUNS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I'M USUALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, LIKE THE MONEY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH DR OR DR.

BRUCE COMING DOWN, I WAS GOING TO PAY THAT I HAVE FUNDS FOR THAT, MY CITY BUDGET.

SO I TRIED THE FIRST, I PUT IT THROUGH THE FILTER OF, CAN I TAKE IT OUT OF ONE OF MY POTS.

OKAY.

UM, AND I USUALLY CAN.

UM, SO YEAH.

OKAY.

BUT AGAIN, THE COMMISSION, THAT'S SOMETHING Y'ALL, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT IT.

YEAH.

SO , YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET OF THE COMMITTEES.

YOU CAN TELL, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT OR JUST TALK ABOUT IT AMONGST OURSELVES FIRST, EACH COMMITTEE FIRST, BUT YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT NEED TO TAKE IT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, OKAY.

I THINK WE'RE IN A VERY NEW BUSINESS.

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YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BEING, WE'LL BE HAVING THANKFUL IT'S TONIGHT.

JUST APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HARD WORK ON STAFF.

I DON'T THINK SO.

UNLESS AMANDA HAS SOME.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I GUESS I'VE GOT THE NEW BUSINESS THEN I AIN'T IN CASE EVERYBODY ELSE.

UM, THAT I'M THE INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR OF YOUR NEW GROUP FOR A FEW MONTHS.

BUT YEAH, IT'S SUSHI.

I'M SERVING AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR AS A, WE DO A, UM, SEARCH FOR A PERMANENT DIRECTOR AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT PROCESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

FORGING ON SOME STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS, BECOMING GREAT FRIENDS WITH A LOT OF ALL, ALL DEPARTMENTS.

THEY WORK IN, UH, WITH THE BOARD, UM, TO MAKE SURE OUR UNITS, OR NOT ONLY AFFORDABLE, BUT HEALTHY

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SANITARY.

AND SO I I'LL BE DOING THAT FOR, UM, FOR, FOR PEOPLE.

SO, UM, I'M STILL AROUND IF YOU NEED ME, MATTER OF FACT, I'LL BE DOWNTOWN WALKING AROUND SOBER.

SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN CATCH ME HERE OTHER THAN SAYING THANK YOU FOR SERVING IN THAT ROLE.

OKAY.

FOUR MINUTES.

HEY, THANK YOU ALL AGAIN.

SO MUCH.

IF YOU STAY SAFE AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.