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GREAT.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH

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FOR COMING.

WELCOME TO THE,

[1. 6:00pm: Welcome and roll call]

UH, COMMISSION CALLS FISHER CALL, UM, MEETING.

WE ASKED FOR THE ROLL CALL ON, UH, VICE CHAIR MOSLEY.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR.

UM, RISE ON THE ROLL CALL.

THOSE EMISSION OR WALLETS COMMISSIONER KIPP COMMISSIONER CHOKE COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND COMMISSIONER BETTER.

NO, MORGAN MENTIONED A JOB HERE.

EX-OFFICIO MEMBER BINGO.

EX-OFFICIO PAIRS.

EX-OFFICIO I THINK THAT'S THE ENTIRE ROOM SHARE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMETHING FAMILIAR.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT? OKAY.

OKAY.

NO PROBLEM.

COME IN.

THANK YOU.

MY NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE APPROVAL

[3. Approval of Minutes]

OF OUR MINUTES.

YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THEM IN YOUR PACKET AND WE HAVE AN APPROVAL CORRECTION DELETION.

WE HAVE A POLL, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

UH, MAKING, I JUST HAD TO THANK YOU SO MUCH I'M MINUTES OR, UM, OH, COOL.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT AGENDA

[4. Mike Williams: Executive Director, Habitat for Humanity]

ITEM IS MR. MIKE WINS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HABITAT FOR, UM, PHEW, MANATEE AND MR. WILLIAMS. SO GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND FINALLY GETTING ONTO THE AGENDA HERE.

I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH, UM, SOME THINGS WHICH POWERPOINT FULL OF HEALTH, UM, ON REDEVELOPING, UM, THE FOCUS AREA THAT WE HAVE, UM, AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT WHAT WE ARE SEEING AND WOULD THERE'S SOME MORE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED AND HOW WE ARE WHEN I SAY WE IN THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY CAN ACTUALLY COME TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY START TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BEEN AND THE REDEVELOPMENT COMPLEX PLAN.

AND IT'S BEEN IN THE THREE TO FIVE POINTS, TRANSMISSION PLAN, THE CNI PLAN, THE GATEWAY IT'S BEEN PLANS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING.

BUT WHAT MY PURPOSE TONIGHT IS TO REALLY GET US TO START TO SEE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO TO ADDRESS WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, I CAN'T SAY THAT WELL, SO NO PROBLEM.

CAN YOU JUST, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO FRAME AND MY WIFE DOESN'T ALLOW ME TO DANCE IN PUBLIC ANYMORE.

OKAY.

OH, THIS IS NOT PUTTING MINUTES.

OKAY.

SO WE CAN JUST HAVE THEM COME STATION.

OH, WHAT IS EVERYONE THINKS? EVEN PLAYING? ARE YOU HAVING FAMILY OR YOU DO A VIRTUAL THANKSGIVING.

EVERYBODY DOING WE'RE GOING TO YOUR HOUSE? OH NO.

I'M HAVING VIRTUAL.

AND

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I THINK THE MEAL THAT I PREPARE, I DON'T THINK HE DID BY LEAVE.

CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MAKE 1800 CALORIES A DAY.

YES.

SO BEFORE OUR NUMBERS STARTED TO INCREASE, UH, PURCHASE PLANE TICKETS TO GO TO ATLANTA ETHICS, GIVING CONSISTENT WITH OUR TRADITION WITH MY HUSBAND'S FAMILY AND THAT IS NOW.

SO WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT, OKAY, SO, WELL, I AM ACTUALLY MY DAUGHTER'S BASKETBALL COACH AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A TOURNAMENT.

SO, AND GOING TO WATCH THE BASKETBALL GAME FROM HER OFFICE OR THE THANKSGIVING WEEKEND, I PASS ON THANKSGIVING SO THAT WE CAN BLOW IT UP CHRISTMAS, YOU KNOW, THE ITALIANS WE HAVE GATHERED.

SO WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, CHRISTMAS EVE, THEY'RE ALL COMING FROM NEW YORK AND I JUST KIND OF DO THAT.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE VERY QUIET THANKSGIVING, WHICH IS GOOD FRIDAY.

YOU CAN GET UP AND GO TO WORK.

WHEN THEY GO BACK TO NEW YORK, THEY HAVE TO QUARANTINE THE GOVERNOR, NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL JUST, NOT AN IN THAT FIRST FIVE MINUTES.

DO NOT COUNT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT OKAY.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE FOCUS, SARAH.

OKAY.

HERE'S UM, HERE'S THE CHALLENGE IS THE CHALLENGE THAT'S ACTUALLY BEFORE US IT'S IT'S AND YOU PROBABLY ALL KNOW THIS, BUT JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THE VACANT LOTS, THE AGING HOUSING STOCK, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T TALK A WHOLE LOT ABOUT, BUT THERE'S PEOPLE IN HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 50, 60 YEARS AND STUFF NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO THEM SO THEY CAN BECOME BETTER.

UM, NOW HIGH, HIGH RENTAL RATES, WE KNOW THERE'S THAT ISSUE.

THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS BECAUSE A HEALTHY COMMUNITY IS NOT ONE THAT'S MADE UP OF ALL RENTALS AND COMMUNITY IS AS THAT, THAT ALMOST AT THAT POINT, UM, WE HAVE THE, THE, UM, PUBLIC HOUSING FOLKS OVER IN TRENT COURT AND RELOCATION OF THOSE FOLKS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE SMART.

AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN A GOOD WAY SO THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE TAKEN CARE OF AND THE COMMUNITY ITSELF HAS TAKEN CARE OF.

WE'VE LOST HALF OF THE RESIDENTS THERE TO VARIOUS THINGS, AND WE ALL KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE OTHER HALF THAT'S THERE, THAT WE DO THE RIGHT THING AND ACTUALLY GETTING THEM RELOCATED INTO, TO DECENT STABLE HOUSING.

UM, WE HAVE A LACK OF TRANSITIONAL HOUSING HERE.

THAT'S TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR FOLKS THAT ARE, ARE IN THE HOMELESS SHELTER THAT ARE COMING OUT, UM, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED THERE REALLY NEEDS TO TRANSITION BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS HOMELESS FOLKS THAT HAVE NOTHING ANYWAY, THEY ALL NEED SUPPORT AND GETTING, UM, HOUSING.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE, UH, THAT WE HAVE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AS A COMMUNITY.

OH, IS THIS THE MONEY ON THE PHONE THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON? I GOT THAT THERE.

AND ONE OF THE BIGGER ISSUES THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY WAS GOING TO HAVE IS SUPPORTING OUR LOW INCOME RESIDENTS OR THOSE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY, EITHER RENTING BARNS, A LOT OF CASES ACTUALLY ONLY, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES OR GET THEIR HOMES UP TO CODE AND SO FORTH.

SO WE, AS A COMMUNITY HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT.

THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE NEED TO DO, AND WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION ON HOW WE GET THAT DONE.

UM, IT CAN'T BE DONE.

I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT I'M SURE IF I USE THE BRAIN POWER OF EVERYONE ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY, WE'LL COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANT US TO DO.

NOW, WHAT WE KNOW ALREADY.

AND THIS IS FROM THE, THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THAT WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED, 107, 1000 1800, UM, HOUSING UNITS IN THE FOCUS AREA.

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I AM IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING SURE WE VALIDATE WHETHER THAT NUMBER IS STILL REAL OR NOT.

I THINK WE, THE PLAN WAS IMPROVED AND, AND FEBRUARY, UM, THE DATA I THINK WAS FROM 2019.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT NUMBER IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING OUT THERE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER YOUNG.

CAN YOU, UH, DO YOUR, FOLLOWS ME TELL YOU ABOUT, YOU HAVE A COMMENT FOR US BECAUSE WE GIVE THEM FEEDBACK FROM MY PHONE.

YES, SIR.

I'M NOT SURE HOW TO USE MY PHONE.

HOLD ON A SECOND.

I'LL TRY.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL KEEP GOING.

UM, THERE'S UM, AND BASED ON THE, THE, UH, THE PLAN 79% OF THAT, THE, UM, HOUSING UNITS WERE RENTER OCCUPIED, UH, WHICH IS ABOUT 1400, UM, HOUSEHOLDS, 590 OR ONE THIRD OF THOSE.

AND THAT NUMBER ALSO IS THE ONE THAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GET STRAIGHTENED OUT.

AREN'T CALLED THE CALVIN, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN, UM, TRENT COURT CRAVEN TERRORISTS.

AND I'M ASSUMING THE TOWERS, BUT THAT THE REPORT SAID IT WAS JUST THOSE TWO, OURS ARE SECTION EIGHT.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

BUT THEN THE NUMBERS WE HAVE TO GET, BECAUSE WE TEAM UP WITH THIS AND I KNOW THERE WAS, THERE WAS 313 AT CRAVE AND TERRORISTS, AND THERE WAS 218 OVER THERE.

AND THAT DOESN'T COME TO FIND, BUT THOSE, THE NUMBERS THEMSELVES WILL VALIDATE.

BUT SOMEWHERE AROUND THIS NUMBER IS WHAT WE HAD IN PUBLIC HOUSING.

UM, SO WHICH, UH, WE TAKE THAT NUMBER FROM THERE.

WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE 824 HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE LANDLORD CONTROLLED, WHICH IS ABOUT 46% OF THIS TOTAL IF WE TAKE OUT PUBLIC HOUSING.

OKAY.

SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS WE KNOW.

AND SO THERE'S ABOUT 376, UM, OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS AND THE FOCUS AREAS.

SO THAT GIVES US AN IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AS FAR AS HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE ALWAYS ALREADY THERE.

THERE ARE VACANT LOTS.

I KNOW THE CITY CONVEYED A BUNCH OF VACANT, LOTS OVER TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

SOME OF THEM ARE IN THE BLUE WARD, GREEN AREAS OR WHEREVER WE WANT TO CALL IT, WHICH WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD HOUSES IN ANY WAY.

SO THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF VACANT LOTS IS DATA THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET SO THAT WE CAN GET A GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT THOSE ARE.

SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE 376 OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES IS THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH.

AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE 824 PROPERTIES THAT LANDLORDS ARE CONTROLLING THAT YEAH.

THOSE WHO THEY ARE, UM, THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH IN ORDER TO ADDRESS, UM, BRINGING ALL OF THOSE THINGS UP TO MIKE, CAN I ASK THE QUESTION? SO I UNDERSTAND, SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING LANDLORD CONTROL 8 24 IS A NUMBER THAT MAKES UP THE 14, 14 RENTER OCCUPIED.

OKAY.

WE HAVE 1790 IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FOCUS AREA.

RENTERS ARE IN 1400 OF THOSE NOW OF THIS 1400, WE HAD 930 PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS.

SO TAKING THOSE OUT, WE'RE LEFT WITH RENTAL UNITS OF 824.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I JUST WANT, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM.

OKAY.

SO IT'S JUST SUBTRACTING THIS FROM THAT.

OKAY.

ALON MATH THAT'S OKAY.

I STRUGGLED WITH IT.

I STRUGGLED WITH THAT.

NUMBER TWO, TRUST ME ON IT.

UM, UM, HERE'S SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'VE DONE, WHICH, UH, WE HAVEN'T DONE A GOOD JOB OF LETTING PEOPLE KNOW, BUT IN THE FOCUS AREA, WE'VE WE BUILT 47 UNITS.

SO OF THOSE OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS, WE BUILT 13% OF THOSE OVER THE TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE.

SO THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD IMPACT ON THE HOME OWNERSHIP RATES THAT ARE DIFFERENT AND CANCER NET WAS GONNA REMIND ME THAT.

OH, WHERE'S JEFF.

YES.

ANY JEFF, WE CAN HAVE A COPY FOR EVERYONE ELSE.

OKAY.

WELL, WHEN HE COMES BACK, I WANT YOU ALL TO TELL.

OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT I MEANT.

YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THERE'S FOUR, 13% OF THE OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS IN THE TARGET AREA WE BUILT.

AND JEFF, THEY'VE ALL BEEN BUILT AND SOLD TO THE HOMEOWNERS AT MARKET RATE.

AND JEANETTE WANTED ME TO MAKE SURE YOU

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KNEW THAT.

OKAY.

HI, I'M SORRY.

YES.

MA'AM.

I'M JUST CURIOUS.

SO IF THE 47, HAVE YOU HAD TO TAKE BACK ANY FUN? FORTUNATELY, WE DID ONE THIS YEAR.

SO THEN IS THAT REHABBED AND RESOLD TO ANOTHER HOMELAND? SO OF THE 72 HOMES THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE HAD THIS ONE AND THIS ONE, SINCE I GOT HERE IN 2017, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THEM TO STRAIGHTEN THEMSELVES OUT AND THEY JUST WOULDN'T DO IT.

WE'VE HAD WE'VE RE I MEAN, WE'VE BACKED THROUGH THE CORNER, TRYING TO GET THESE, THESE HALLMARKS.

AND WE DO BEND OVER BACKWARDS FOR EVERY HOMEOWNER THAT WE SELL OUR HOME TO, TO TRY AND GET THEM UP.

AND DO WE EXHAUST EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, AND THIS HOMEOWNER, WE JUST COULD NOT GET TO WAKE UP AND THEY HAVE ALL KINDS OF OTHER ISSUES AND THEY WERE THERE.

UM, WE, WE ASSISTED, UM, PASS THE STRING STRING HORN IN THIS CHURCH AND REBUILDING AFTER BORNS HAD COMPLETELY DEVASTATED IT.

UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY PARTNERING WITH, UM, UM, TRIAL BY FIRE, WHICH HAS BEEN HERE, THE SIMMONS GROUP TO ACTUALLY DO A TRANSITIONAL HOUSE FOR WOMEN COMING OUT OF INCARCERATION.

UM, AND WE ALSO DID IN THIS FOCUS AREA, WE HELP NINE FAMILIES GET THEIR HOMES REPAIRED FROM THE STORM, UH, FLORENCE.

SO THESE ARE, ARE SOME IMPACTS THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY DONE IN THAT FOCUS AREA.

AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THE BENIGN FAMILIES THAT YOU SAID YOU HELPED AFTER THE STORM.

THEY HOMEOWNERS OF HABITAT HOUSES.

NOPE.

THERE'S ANYBODY.

THEY WERE JUST, WELL, THEY WEREN'T JUST ANYBODY.

THEY WERE, THEY WERE A NON HABITAT HOMEOWNERS.

SO WE DIDN'T BUILD A HOUSE APARTMENT.

THEY WERE HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVES IN THAT COMMUNITY WHOSE HOMES WERE DAMAGED BY THE STORE.

OKAY.

SO HOW DOES YOUR PROCESS WORK WITH THOSE FOLKS YOU COME IN AND DO THE WORKERS ARE ALONE WITH TAX FOR THAT, OR IS THERE SOMETHING SOBER HAS, BUT THOSE NOT FAMILY IT'S BASED ON? WELL, WHAT WE DO IS WE'VE HAD FUNDING TO ACTUALLY HELP FOLKS DAMAGED BY THE STORM.

WE TRY AND GET THOSE FOLKS TO ACTUALLY, IT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS BECAUSE THEY WERE FEMA FUNDING AND ALL OF THE INSURANCE AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.

THERE WERE SOME POSTS THAT JUST FOR VARIOUS REASONS, DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR FEMA, DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE AND ON AND ON AND ON THAT COULDN'T AFFORD TO.

SO WE BASICALLY HELPED THEM AND WE HAVE A FORMULA FOR HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO PAY US BACK.

AND IT'S GENERALLY NOT THE FULL AMOUNT OF IT.

MAYBE WE SPEND 10 LPS BACK AT THE HOUSE, UH, AND THE PROCESS, BUT WE, WE DO IT SO THAT THEY CAN GET BACK INTO, INTO THEIR HOMES.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S, IT, IT REALLY IS A FULL PAYBACK FOR THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN REPAIRS.

YEAH.

IS THAT FUNNY SCREEN IS ALL ALMOST WHERE WE'RE CONTINUALLY LOOKING FOR MORE.

I KNOW, UH, THE OFFICE OF RESILIENCY AND RECOVERY BEST, BEST STATE OFFICE.

HOPEFULLY THEY'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY RELEASED THE FUNDING THAT THEY HAVE, THE, FOR INSTANCE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY'VE BEEN WAITING UNTIL THE MAT DO FUNDING HAS EXTENDED.

AND LIKE, MATTHEW DIDN'T AFFECT ME TO ME THE FOREIGN STUFF, BUT YEAH, THERE, THERE WAS SOME OTHER FUNDING.

THERE WAS OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR ARE OTHER FOUNDATIONS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDING FUNDING STILL FOR THE STORM IMPACTED AREAS.

SO IT'S NOT ALL GONE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF IT.

SO I WISH WE DID.

WE COULD DO A WHOLE LOT.

IS THAT ALRIGHT? OKAY.

SO SOME OF THE IMPACTS OF WHAT WE ARE DOING BY DOING THAT, OF COURSE, THEY INCREASE THE TAX REVENUE, UH, AND MAKING THE COMMUNITY LOOK, LOOK BETTER.

UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW, I'M GOING TO INVITE YOU ALL TO IS WE ARE ACTUALLY BUILDING AN, OUR FIN WHERE LIKE 40% INTO A HOME IN GOLDSBORO, WHICH IS IN THAT AREA, WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON WORKING WITH EVERYONE AROUND THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE BUILDING.

CAUSE WE, WHEN WE LEAVE, WE WANT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO BE UPLIFTED.

SO IF WE NEED TO DO MINOR REPAIRS, PAINTING, LANDSCAPING, AND SO FORTH WITH THE RESIDENTS IN THAT COMMUNITY, THEY ENGAGE THEM INTO BRINGING UP THE PICTURE OF THE ENTITY.

WE WANT TO DO THAT.

CAUSE WHEN WE LEAVE, WE WANT TO HAVE A VERY AESTHETICALLY PLEASING BLOCK AND WE WANT THIS TO CATCH ON THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE FOCUS AREA THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

SO YOU'RE INVITED EXCELLENT SATURDAY.

WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A HOT DOG

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EATING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE SOCIALLY DISTANCE, UM, TO GET PEOPLE MORE ENGAGED IN ACTUALLY BRINGING THE COMMUNITY.

SO WHAT TIME IS IT END FOR THAT? 1130 TO ONE.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, THE GAMES DON'T START UNTIL ABOUT 12, 12 30.

AND DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO COME OUT, SEE A HOT DOG, OR JUST SAY HI TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE OUT THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IS REALLY ENGAGE THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND GET THEM ENGAGED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO THAT IS MORE THAN, THAN, THAN HAMMERING AND PAINTING AND SO FORTH.

IT'S ENGAGING THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND LETTING THEM KNOW WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BRING THE COMMUNITY UP.

UH, SO POSITIVE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, WE'VE, WE'VE GENERATED ABOUT UNDER 62,000 IN CITY REVENUE TAX REVENUE.

UM, AND THEN BY ITSELF.

SO WE LOOK AT THAT SAME FOR, FOR THE, WE INCLUDE THE COUNTY WITH THAT IT'S ABOUT $400,000 IN TAX REVENUE FROM THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.

SO JUST THINK OF HOW MUCH MORE THAT'S GOING TO BE WHEN YOU GET THE ENTIRE FOCUS AREA, UM, COMPLETELY REDEVELOPED.

UM, WON'T DO IT IN A MONTH OR TWO BUT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

JUST THINK OF WHAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FROM JUST THAT FOCUS AREA, WHICH IS GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME, RIGHT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU'RE GOING, KIND OF HAVE A STABLE WORKFORCE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOLKS LIVING IN, IN DECENT HOUSING, UM, DECREASED THEIR HELICOPTERS, A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WERE DO, UH, OR THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF THAT NOW QUICKLY, COME ON.

OKAY.

THAT'S BASED ON WHATSAPP NEEDS THEIR OWN.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE GOT SOME STATS FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT WE'VE GOT IN THIS COUNTRY ABOUT 46,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN POVERTY.

AND THAT AS THE, FROM AN INCOME STANDPOINT IS 25,000 SOMETHING FOR NORTH CAROLINA FOR A HOUSEHOLD OF FOUR THAT IS CONSIDERED THE POVERTY LINE.

UM, WE HAVE 20 MILLION PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON ABOUT $12,000 OR LESS, WHICH IS LESS THAN HALF OF THE, THE INCOME FOR SOMEONE LIVING AT POVERTY.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE OUT OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

OKAY.

AND ALSO IN THAT STUDY, YOU'VE GOT 11 MILLION HOUSEHOLDS THAT NEED DATA, PORTABLE HOUSING, AND THERE'S ONLY 4 MILLION UNITS THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED IN.

THIS IS FROM THE HARVARD JOINT CENTER FOR HOUSING.

SO IT'S A EVIDENCE FOR A RIDICULOUS NEED.

UM, AND I THINK WE, IF WE PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER, WE'LL BE ON TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.

UH, AND ABOUT A THIRD OF THE FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY ARE COST BURDEN IS THEIR PAIN MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME FOR HOUSING? UH, 19 MILLION ARE PAYING MORE THAN HALF THEIR INCOME FOR HOUSING.

UM, YOU'RE IN NEWBURGH DUST CURE A NEWBURN, 30%, 36% OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS ARE ABOUT 4,700 PEOPLE ARE COSPER.

THAT IS FOLKS OF THOSE FOLKS.

WE HAVE ABOUT 15% LESS MAKING LESS THAN 20 13%.

SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT 20% OF OUR PEOPLE WHERE THEY CAN HEAR A, NEW-BORN MAKING LESS THAN $35,000 A YEAR.

SO THE 2,800, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET FOCUSED ON, UM, AS ABOUT 7,000 AND ALSO THEY'RE MAKING ABOVE THAT 35,000 OH, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE CENSUS TRACK, WHICH, BECAUSE OF HIS GOOFINESS, THE WAY THAT THE SUNTRUST CENSUS TRACKS ARE BUILT, A LOT OF OUR CENSUS TRACKS GO INTO THE FOCUS AREA AND PARTS OF IT ARE OUTSIDE.

SO WE JUST TOOK THIS ONE THAT'S IN THERE.

THERE'S OTHERS THAT TOUCH INTO THE FOCUS AREA THAT WE DIDN'T LOOK AT, BUT ABOUT 48% OR 354 OF THE RESIDENTS, JUSTIN THAT SAYS THIS TRACK, OUR COST BURDEN ABOUT 28% OF THE HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE MORTGAGES, WHICH IS NOT A WHOLE LOT, OUR COST BURDEN.

SO THAT'S A, THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS HOW WE HELP FOLKS ACTUALLY AFFORD THE HOMES THAT, THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DONE.

BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS

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IN THOSE HOUSES HAVE TO MAKE SOME REALLY HARD CHOICES, HIS CHOICES, YOU, AND I DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT, BUT THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICE OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THE ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD AND BY THE APPROPRIATE POOP.

UM, I KNOW I'VE HAD AN OCCASION WHERE HE TALKED WITH THE HOMEOWNER WHO WAS, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE MEDICATION, BUT IT WAS ONE THAT WAS GOING TO KEEP THEM ALIVE, BUT THEY HAD TO KEEP THE, THE, THE LIGHTS ON AND TO KEEP A ROOF ON IT.

SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE PROVIDING THEIR, THEIR MEDICINE SO THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO, IT'S A REALLY COLD NIGHT REALLY BE SITTING OUT IN THE COLD.

WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANYBODY IN ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE, UM, AND DOING, GETTING THERE, UM, UH, WHETHER APPROPRIATE CLOSING INTO THAT.

SO NOW IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE INTO STABLE HOUSING, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE, ARE GOING TO BE THE, THE RESULT OF IT.

AND IT'S JUST GOING TO HELP THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, UM, WITH, UM, KIDS IN SCHOOL WITH THEIR, THEIR HEALTH.

AND THE ONE THING THAT, THAT IF WE TALKED ABOUT IT ENOUGH AND IT'S LARGER, THE THING THAT'S BEEN MISSING IS IS PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO INCREASE THEIR, THEIR WEALTH, UM, A MONITORSHIP IS, IS, IS THAT THIS VEHICLE FOR GETTING THAT, UH, UH, YEAH, AND THAT, THAT WELL CAN BE PASSED ON FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION AND THAT'S, THAT HAS SO UNDERSTATED IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND AS WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION MORE ABOUT EQUITY, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BECOME MORE EVIDENT FOR EVERYONE.

UM, THE OPPONENT HOMEOWNERSHIP IS, IS A WAY TO ENSURE THAT FAMILIES THRIVES THE, WHERE THE REPAIR PROGRAM THAT, THAT WE HAVE IS THAT OUR, THE ONE, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE TARGET COMMUNITY, THAT WE'RE GOING, WHETHER THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SO MANY HOUSES THAT ARE AGING, AND WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET THOSE HOMES REPAIRED, GET THEM UP TO CODE, GET THEM ENERGY EFFICIENT SO THAT FOLKS AREN'T PAYING MORE FOR THEIR UTILITY BILLS THAN THE WORK FOR THEIR RENT OR FOR THE MORTGAGE, WHICH IS ANOTHER RIDICULOUS THING IN THIS COUNTRY.

SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR REPAIR PROGRAM WORKS AS FAR AS THE BREAKDOWN ON THAT? WHAT KIND OF WORK DO YOU DO AND WHAT KIND OF COSTS ARE YOU LEADING INTO THAT NOW? UM, DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO REPAIR, IT'S BASICALLY EVERYTHING.

IF IT'S WEATHERIZATION, IF FOLKS NEEDED WINTERS, THEY NEEDED AN HVAC.

THEY KNEW THEY NEEDED NEW INSTALLATION, MADE THE ROOF REPAIR, THEY NEED DOORS, WINDOWS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO ACTUALLY GET THEM TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE RIGHT NOW, MOST OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING HAS BEEN AS A RESULT OF HURRICANE DAMAGE AND THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN THE THING.

SO FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS, THAT'S BEEN THE FOCUS OF OUR REPAIRS.

NOW WE, THE COMMUNITY WE NEED TO START TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE GET FOLKS THAT ARE THERE AND THOSE 50, 60, 70 YEAR OLD HOUSES OR TRAILERS, UM, HOW DO WE GET THEM TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A SOLID STABLE SHELTER TO LIVE IN? I KNOW THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER, BUT WE WILL COME UP WITH THAT ONE LATER.

BUT IN A RECURRENT PROGRAM, WE'VE INVESTED $400,000 JUST IN CRAVEN COUNTY AND DOING REPAIRS, UM, AND HER NEW BIRD, ABOUT 138,000.

UM, AND THAT'S BASICALLY, AND THAT, THAT FOCUS AREA NOW, THOSE DOLLARS, AS I TOLD THE ALDERMAN, UM, A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T REALLY SEE WHAT THE IMPACT OF THOSE DOLLARS FOR THOSE DOLLARS MEAN THAT'S MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S HELPING THE CONTRACT TO HIRE SOMEONE ELSE WHO'S GOING TO DO THE WORK.

SO THOSE DOLLARS ARE GONNA REPEAT, UM, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS GOING TO BE FIVE TO EIGHT TIMES THAT AMOUNT ON THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE HELPING ADD A HOMEOWNER, BUT WE'RE ALSO HELPING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE'RE INVESTING IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WE'RE NOT SPENDING IT IN PANAMA CO-HORT OR WHEAT COUNTY OR SOMEPLACE ELSE.

UM, AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THOSE PIECES.

SO I, ALL OF THAT TO GET TO THIS IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PARTNER, UM, AS A TEAM, UM, AND DEVELOP A DETAILED, COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING PLAN FOR THE FOCUS AREAS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE GOING INTO, UM, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

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IT'S GOING TO BE A RESIDENT CENTER.

AND WE, I KNOW WE'VE GOT ALL THE STUDIES THAT WE'VE DONE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY STAYS ENGAGED WITH US AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO DOING WHATEVER IT IS WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THAT HOUSING REPAIR AND PRESERVATION IS GOING TO BE TOUGH, BUT I, I PROMISE YOU, WE CAN DO IT.

WE JUST NEED TO THINK HARDER.

I WANT TO SAY OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, AND WE JUST NEED TO THINK HARDER ON COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR THAT.

THERE ISN'T ONE NOW, AND WE REALLY DO NEED TO INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF HOMEOWNERS IN THE FOCUS AREA.

UM, AND WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE RELOCATION OF FOLKS IN PUBLIC HOUSING, PARTICULARLY THE FOLKS FROM TRENT COURT.

IT WORKS STILL WORRIES ME.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITHOUT BOTH, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THE PLAN IS TO DEMOLISH THAT AREA, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE.

AND I KNOW WE'RE BUILDING CAROLINA STREET AVENUE, WHATEVER THAT PLACES THERE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION FOR THE A HUNDRED.

AND HOWEVER MANY FOLKS THAT ARE LEFT THERE, WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM IN MIND.

AND WE HAVE TO PLAN TODAY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THEM IN THE NEXT 2, 3, 5 YEARS, AND THEN COME UP WITH SOME MOBILE PARK AREAS.

I THINK IN OUR PLAN IS WE'RE NOT REPLACING ANY MOBILE HOMES WITH ANOTHER MOBILE, BUT WE DO NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AS A COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE AS I GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, ACTUALLY SEE IN HERE, THERE, AND EVERYWHERE, IT'S LIKE, WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING WITH THEM.

AND THERE WERE SOME REALLY OLD TRILLIUMS IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT JUST SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO PULL IT OUT AND PUT IT IN A TRAILER THERE.

WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

UM, AND THEN ADDRESS TRANSITIONAL HOUSE.

ALL RIGHT.

I CAN GO BACK TO YOUR HOUSING, REPAIR AND PRESERVATION AGAIN, TO KIND OF DIG IN PAST THAT MISTAKE.

THESE ARE MY MINUTES.

SAY A RESIDENT NEEDS HVAC.

I SAW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS ON YOUR LIST WHEN THEY COME TO YOU, IT'S A $5,000 JOB THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

RIGHT? HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY? DO YOU GUYS SHOW UP, DO IT SAY YOU NEED TO PAY $500.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A WHOLE, YEAH, THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS.

MEAN THEY'VE GOT TO APPLY.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT, AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THEIR ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF IT THEMSELVES AND DETERMINE IF THEY CAN.

AND IF THERE IS, I MEAN, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.

AND WHEN THAT THAT'S IN THOSE FOLKS WHO DO THAT, AND THEN ONCE THEY DETERMINED, YEAH, THEY WILL QUALIFY FOR OUR PROGRAM AND HERE'S THEIR INCOME BREAKDOWN IS THIS IS THEIR REPAYMENT BACK TO US, GOOD WITH THEM AND GET THEM TO SIGN OFF ON IT.

AND THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO AND AGREE TO MOVING FORWARD, PER PARTNERING WITH US, DOING ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ASKED AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND THEN THAT WAS REALLY FAST, BUT IT'S A LOT MORE DETAILED THAN THAT.

YES, I THINK THE BEST PART, THE THING I LIKE MOST ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IS THAT IT'S NOT A HANDOUT.

IT'S A HAND UP MEETING.

IT'S MAKING THESE REPAIRS AFFORDABLE FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOMEOWNERS WHO OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.

THE LABOR RATE RIGHT NOW IS EXCRUCIATING.

UM, SO WE ARE FINDING MANY FAMILIES, JUST, THEY JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT, BUT IF YOU GIVE THEM A WAY TO DO IT FOR THEMSELVES AND PARTNER WITH YOU, THEN THEY WILL.

AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT PIECE OF THEM INVESTING FINANCIALLY.

THEY STILL HAVE TO INVEST THEIR TIME IN THOSE SWEAT EQUITY HOURS.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GOING AFTER.

I WAS TRYING TO SEE WHAT THAT SAVINGS WAS FOR THEM AND WHAT THE ULTIMATE INVESTMENT WAS FOR THEM AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF ASKING FOR A $5,000 HVAC UNIT IT'S BASED ON HOW MUCH THEY CAN AFFORD IT FOR MINE.

THERE'S THAT SLIDING SCALE HE WOULD USE WITH EACH RESIDENT, WITH EACH APPLICATION, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH THAT AMOUNT IS.

AND THEN THAT AMOUNT, WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT THAT MONTHLY PAYMENT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT WHERE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, YOU OWE US $5,000.

YOU NEED TO PAY US THAT DOWN, OR YOU NEED TO PAY THEM A STAT IN A YEAR.

IT'S NOT LIKE GOING TO A LONG COMPANY AND THEN TELLING YOU, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY.

IT'S, LET'S SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT AND LOOK AT YOUR BILLS TOGETHER.

AND IT ALSO INCLUDES THAT VISA PARTAKING IN FINANCIAL LITERACY CLASSES AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE OFFER IS BEING HABITAT.

MR. WILLIAMS, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, SORRY ABOUT THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PIECE.

THERE ARE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT THAT, THAT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PIECE BEFORE, CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA ABOUT WHAT A JOINT HABITAT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE,

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WHO OWNS AND MAINTAINS THAT HOUSING STOCK AND WHAT THEY REASONABLE TIMEFRAME FOR CREATING THAT TYPE OF HOUSING? NO, I WOULD, IT BRINGS AN ALL TIME.

TIMEFRAME IS REALLY HARD, BUT I'LL START FROM THE BEGINNING, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, YOU GUYS JUST TAKE, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH TRIED BY FIRE IS THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT BECAME AVAILABLE.

WE MADE SURE IT WAS COMING TO US, BUT IN MY RELATIONSHIP WITH, UM, TRY IT BY FIRE AS WELL, IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM.

SO WE MADE THAT TRANSACTION.

WE'RE WORKING THEM TO ACTUALLY REHAB IT.

SO USING OUR, UM, REPAIR SITE SUPERVISOR AND HIS KNOWLEDGE OF REPAIRS AND SO FORTH WORKING WITH HER ORGANIZATION AND THEN HELPING HER WITH VOLUNTEERS TO DO THE VOLUNTEER PIECES OF IT AND SO FORTH.

SO THAT'S WHAT OUR PARTNERSHIP LOOKS LIKE.

WE'RE PROVIDING THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, UM, CREATING THE, THE PLAN WITH HER AND WORKING WITH HER AND HER TEAM TO ACTUALLY GET THAT DONE.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR PARTNERSHIP.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, WE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE IT HERE.

SO IT'S TAKING US A LOT LONGER TO ACTUALLY GET IT, BUT WE'RE HERE ALMOST TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GONNA REALLY TAKE OFF.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BENITA ON HIS IDEA FOR PROBABLY TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

UM, AND THIS WAS JUST GETTING THE IDEA AND THEN GETTING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO IT'S TAKING US LONGER.

I DON'T ANTICIPATE ALL THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING HOUSES TO TAKE THAT LONG.

PROBABLY BE A LOT SHORTER THAN THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS GOING TO BE UNTIL WE GET DONE WITH THIS.

IS IT A PART OF HABITAT PROGRAM PLATFORM TO BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE FOR SURE? WELL, OUR, FROM OUR IS OUR, OUR PROGRAM IS HOMEOWNERSHIP.

SO IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL OR FAMILY, UM, WHO WAS GOING INTO HOMEOWNERSHIP.

THAT'S WHAT OUR, OUR, OUR MAIN FOCUS IS.

OUR OVERALL OBJECTIVE IS SHELTER IS ENSURING THAT WE WORK WITH PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO CREATE SHELTER, WHETHER THAT BE OWNERSHIP, RENTAL, TRANSITIONAL, HOUSING, WHATEVER IT IS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE, AND WE'VE WORKED TO BRING SOME PARTNERSHIPS TOGETHER.

SO WE, WE HAD A MEETING THAT INCLUDED HABITAT A HOUSING AUTHORITY, UM, IN OUR CDC, OH, UH, HABITAT NRCDC HOUSING AUTHORITY.

AND I SEEN SOMEBODY, WELL, WE TRIED TO BRING, TRYING TO BRING ALL OF THOSE FRUITS TOGETHER BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS DOING HAZARD.

NOBODY WAS WORKING FOR ANYTHING.

SO THE IDEA IS HABITAT DOES SOME OWNERSHIP AND OUR CDC DOES RENTAL HOUSING AUTHORITY DOES PUBLIC HOUSING.

SO WHAT IS, NRCDC THE NOOSE RIVER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

AND, UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING LIKE THREE.

SO WAS THE FIRST DIRECTOR YES.

FOR YOU THE FIRST DIRECTOR.

YES.

AND IT WAS A PROGRAM TO THE CITY THAT WENT OFF INDEPENDENT, AND NOW THEY OWN THE PROPERTIES, UH, GREENFIELD TERRACE, OR IS IT GREEN SCREEN PARK? BOTTOM.

K, EXCUSE ME.

SORRY, I'M GOING BACK.

I'M GOING BACK 30 YEARS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I, I JUST, UM, I LOVE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU HAVE A SLIDE ON THE AFFORDABLE, METICULOUS ON THE AFFORDABLE, UM, HOMEOWNERSHIP LEADING TO DECREASED HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS.

AND I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN DOING A LITTLE WORK WITH THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMMITTEE HERE AND, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE QUALITY HOUSING IS A SOCIAL DETERMINANT OF HEALTH.

RIGHT.

SO HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO DECREASE HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS? I MEAN, IF YOU CAN, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT IF YOU'VE BEEN IN, WELL, GENERALLY, IF YOU'RE NOT BREATHING IN THE STUFF, THAT'S THERE, YOU'RE NOT FREEZING IN THE HOUSE AS, AS ALWAYS, YOU'RE NOT MAKING AS MANY TRIPS TO THE DOCTOR AND I'M RACING OFF TO URGENT CARE OR THE EMERGENCY ROOM, NOT HAVING TO BUY AS MUCH NYQUIL AND SO FORTH.

THAT'S DECREASING YOUR COSTS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO DO THESE, THESE EMERGENCY TYPE VISITS THAT, THAT GENERALLY IS THEIR KIDS ARE HAVING ASTHMA ATTACKS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DETERIORATED HOUSE THAT YOU'RE LIVING IN.

SO THAT IS A FACTOR IN REDUCING THE HEALTHCARE COSTS.

AND THEN DO YOU SEE WHEN PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, ARE ABLE TO AFFORD HEALTHCARE? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WITH HAVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT GIVING SOMEBODY LIKE UP, YEAH.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET FOLKS TO GET MORE DISPOSABLE INCOME.

SO THEIR, THEIR

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HOUSING IS TAKEN CARE OF THEIR UTILITIES ARE TAKEN CARE OF.

THEY CAN BUY FOOD.

NOW THEY HAVE MONEY THAT THEY CAN SPEND ON THE APPROPRIATE MEDICATIONS THAT, THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING HARD.

AND YOU'RE NOT EVEN NEED THEM BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE IN A DECENT PLACE OR THEY DON'T, AREN'T IMPACTED BY THEIR ENVIRONMENT, HEALTH WISE.

UM, SO THEY HAVE MORE DISPOSABLE INCOME TO TAKE CARE OF OTHER THINGS THAT THEY NEED, LIKE VACATIONS THAT FOLKS CAN'T REALLY AFFORD.

NOW THEY CAN TAKE THEIR TRIP TO, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO AROUND HERE.

YEAH.

SCHOOL, THOSE SIMPLE, BASIC, WHEN YOU MEET THE BASIC NEED OF HOUSING, THEN IT BECOMES EASIER TO MEET THOSE OTHER NEEDS.

AND WHEN THOSE BASIC NEEDS ARE MET, AS THOSE MAC MASLOW'S HIERARCHY OF NEEDS, RIGHT.

WHEN YOU MEET THOSE BASIC NEEDS, OKAY, NOW I CAN MEET THESE STUFF.

AND HE SAID, DEAL WITH MY SOCIAL NEEDS AND OUR RELATIONSHIP BUILDING WITH MY KIDS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WERE ADDRESSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU ALSO IMPACT JACK PROTECTIVE SERVICES.

AND THE FACT THAT FAMILIES ARE NOT NOW COMING INTO THAT SYSTEM.

UM, SO THERE ARE, I FORMALLY AS A CHILD, AS SOMEONE WHO WORKED WITH CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, NOW THAT I'M WITH HABITAT, DEFINITELY SEE WHERE THIS IS A PROACTIVE STANCE, AS OPPOSED TO A REACTIVE STANCE, TO KEEP FAMILIES FROM ENDING UP IN SYSTEMS THAT THEY WOULD OTHERWISE.

AND I CAN JUST, BY TAKING THIS ONE MEASURE OF IMPACTING THEIR HOUSING, THAT IT CERTAINLY COULD, RIGHT.

WE DID UP SEVEN HOUSES.

I THINK HER SHIT WHEN WE MOVE IN.

AND ONE OF THE LADIES THAT IF THEY'RE A MAIN STREET, UH, HER DAUGHTER WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO GO TO COLLEGE BECAUSE SHE OWNS HER OWN HOME.

AND SEVERAL OF US IN THIS ROOM COULD TELL YOU THE SAME STORY.

YOU KNOW, ALL THE PROCEEDS YOU GROW UP, SITTING BEHIND THE DESK.

SO, UM, PEOPLE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

SEE HOW MUCH FURTHER DO YOU HAVE? YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE TO GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

UH, THAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN THAT THE, UM, PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, UH, KNOW MATT WOULD BE, UM, THE NEWS FOR CDC IS AN EXAMPLE OF TWIN RIVERS OPPORTUNITY, UM, COASTAL COMMUNITY ACTION, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, ALL OF US COMING TOGETHER TO START TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS AND ACTUALLY CREATE THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY ASK OF THE, THE, UM, WE DEVELOPED.

OKAY.

YEAH.

CAUSE SATISFIES WILL BE, HOW CAN WE HELP YOU? WHY DON'T YOU EVEN GO? AND THEN WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? THE NORTH CAROLINA HOUSING COORDINATION.

THEIR MISSION SAYS WE IN THE MOVEMENT TO ENSURE THAT EVERY NORTH CAROLINIAN HAS A HOME IN WHICH TO DEAL WITH DIGNITY AND OPPORTUNITY.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT GOALS HERE.

THAT IS EVERY SINGLE PERSON'S OVER HERE.

WE MAY DO IT A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT THEN HE ENDS, THAT'S THE GOAL FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND, AND, AND DO THAT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GO OVER HERE TO THIS BE NOT, NOT BE ABLE TO, BUT I THINK WE ALL HAVE, UM, WE ALL HAVE THAT.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, IS INVITING ONE ANOTHER TO THE TABLE BECAUSE ALL OF US, REGARDLESS, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE THINGS BE GOT, DO PEOPLE BEEN WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME? SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THERE A SHORT TIME, BUT I BELIEVE THAT ALL THE, ALL THE STATIONS THAT ARE DOING THIS, UM, REALLY, REALLY BROUGHT PEOPLE THAT DEAL WITH, UH, DIGNITY AND, YOU KNOW, AND OPPORTUNITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS HERE TO DO, UH, THE SAME, UH, SAME THING.

UH, AND AS I SAID, UH, BEFORE, AND I THINK I TOLD, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE WE HAD IN OUR TRENT OUT TO LUNCH HERE, THEY MET WITH OVER 60 HOUSING PROVIDERS UNTIL THE STATE TOLD US THAT WE HAD TO, UH, INCLUDE LAWN TO NO COUNTY.

UM, WHICH NOT A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE ONSLOW COUNTY IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT.

BUT I STILL, WE INVITE HABITAT TO THAT MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND THAT WE CAN ALL COME BACK TO YOU BECAUSE I BELIEVE USUALLY NEEDS TO START THEIR OWN.

UM, AND WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO GET SPECIAL PERMISSION, BUT WE CANNOT GET THAT PERMISSION WITHOUT PARTNERS LIKE OUR HABIT HABITAT AND NEUSE RIVER AND, AND ALL OF THAT, BECAUSE OUR NEEDS ARE DIFFERENT THAN ONSLOW COUNTY.

DO THEY HAVE HOMELESSNESS? YES.

WE DIDN'T HAVE HOUSING ISSUES.

YES.

EVERY COUNTY IN NORTH CAROLINA DOES, BUT, UM, THERE, THERE IS DIFFERENT THEN THAN I, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA DO HOME FIRST BEFORE WE DID REACH OUT TO THE REGION.

SO,

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UM, WE, UM, THE COMMISSION HERE'S YOU.

UM, AND SO, UM, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GEAR TO ANYONE ELSE.

HAVE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR, OR THOUGHTS OR MR. WILLIAMS AND MS. CHADWICK, I KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T THE FIRST NAME AND YOUR CONTINUED PARTICIPATION IS VALUABLE.

AND I THINK THAT WE CAN START TO COLLABORATE IN THE FUTURE AND I CALLED HER ALIVE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO WHAT'S OUR NEXT IS THAT, UM, FOR THE REBUILDING COMMISSION, OUR SUBCOMMITTEE, WE DON'T HAVE ONE, WE DON'T HAVE ONE ALL BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ALL HOUSES, BUT WE WILL PUT YOU ON THAT LIST.

OKAY.

SO IT'S THE HOLIDAY TUESDAY, DECEMBER THE FIRST.

AND I HOPE I SEE THAT'S DECEMBER.

YES, YES.

WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN DO THAT.

UM, THE, UH, THE, UM, HOUSING ALLIANCE OF COASTAL, THE CAROLINA.

NICE ON THAT FRONT, THE FIRST FRIDAY END.

SO CAN I HAVE, CAN WE HAVE A HABITAT NO MORE TO CALL IT? YOU'RE GOING TO SEND ME AN INVITE.

I'M GOING TO BE ON THE CALL IF THEY DO IT.

AND IF I CALL, IF I CALL ON HABITAT, NOW I WANT Y'ALL TO STEP UP NOW.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM,

[5. Residential Inspection Program]

YOU EVER WANT TO GET A COPY FOR SOMEBODY ALICE THERESA, TELL US THE BUILDING OFF OF OUR LAST CONVERSATION, UM, ON THE RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION, WE'VE GOT DIRECTION TO GO BACK AND DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH AND IDENTIFY, UM, RENTER VERSUS OWNER OCCUPIED, WHAT CONDITIONS, THE HARAMBE, AND WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN OR NOT.

SO THE DATA YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A SUMMATION OF, OF THAT.

WE'LL SHARE IT.

UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL BENEFITS, LOOK AT RENTALS FIRST.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE MORE, OBVIOUSLY MY FOCUS AREA, YOU'LL SEE THE BREAKDOWN ON THE, ON THE SHEET AND FOCUS AREA ONE, UM, WE HAVE 83 RENTAL PROPERTIES.

26 OF THEM ARE EITHER COMPLETELY OR PARTIALLY AS YOU SEE IN THE FLOODPLAIN.

AND WITHIN THAT, THEN THE OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD PLAN, WE HAVE 11 PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN CLASSIFIED AS EITHER A STATE OF, UH, IN SOME STATE OF DILAPIDATION, FROM MODERATE TO SEVERE.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT THE DIRECTION WAS TO LOOK AT RENTAL PROPERTIES IN THE FOCUS AREAS OUTSIDE THE FLOOD, PLAIN.

AND WHAT ARE THOSE CONDITIONS OF THOSE STRUCTURES? SO WE HAVE TO SUMMARIZE THAT FOR YOU ALL, UM, AND THAT THIS IS THE DATA, UM, GIS FORM.

AND YOU HAVE JUST THE BASICS AS YOU CAN SEE, AND THERE'S A BREAKDOWN ON WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE.

SO ON THE TOP, NADIA, THESE, THESE TOP NUMBERS ARE TOTALS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WE, WE SEE THE CONSISTENT BREAKDOWN OF THAT 70 TO 30 RENTERS, THE HOMEOWNERS THAT YOU SEE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

SO A REAL, UH, EVERY BLACK.IS

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A RENTER RIGHT NOW.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN THE COLOR OF THE.IS JUST THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S GOOD, YOU WON'T HAVE A COLOR.

RED IS THE WORST ORANGES.

OKAY.

THAT WAS THE BREAKDOWN.

WE WENT OVER TO FOLKS, EVERY TWO DO THE SAME THING, GOT A LOT LESS, UM, TO WORK WITH IN FOCUS AREA, TO NOT A LOT, FLOOD PLAIN, NOT AS MANY RENTALS.

UM, AND THE CONDITIONS I BELIEVE IN FOCUS AREA TOO.

WE HAVE FOUR RENTALS OUTSIDE THE FLOOD, PLAIN THAT ARE IN A STATE OF DECLINE AND THEN FOCUS AREA THREE.

I THINK WE ONLY HAVE ONE LUCKY GUY RIGHT THERE, UM, OUTSIDE OF BROOKLYN, WHICH WE ALL KNOW FOCUS AREA THREE IS A LONG-TERM REBUILDING EFFORT IN THE FLOOD.

THAT WAS THE DIRECTION.

UM, AND IF YOU REMEMBER THE IDEA BEHIND THAT WAS TO TRY TO FOCUS ON INSPECTION COVERAGE.

SO WITH THAT, YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THE DATA.

UM, AS, AS THE VICE CHAIR STATED, UH, EARLIER ON, WE STILL HAVE A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING ISSUE, UM, THAT IS A BIG DEAL FOR US AND, UH, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, IN OUR PLANS, YOU CREATED THE RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM, WHICH IS READY TO GO AT ANY TIME PENDING MAMA, WORKING OUT THESE KINDS OF ISSUES THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON CERTAIN AREAS OR NOT.

SO I HAND IT OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU, JEFF.

UM, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, OR WHAT IS ZONING IT CAN GO INTO, OR DOES IT REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT? OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, MR. GOING, WHAT'S HIS THOUGHTS? HI, I'M IS THAT A DIRTY WORD EXPRESSION? OKAY.

I TOOK THE MINUTES OR SO I HAD KNOW, UM, BUT, UM, WE WERE ON THE HOUSING, UH, COOK, YOU KNOW, SUBCOMMITTEE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS , UM, FROM ALMA BEING PREGNANT, SHE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN THE GARDEN AND RESIDENTS AND INSPECTION FOR WHERE THEY ARE INCLUSION.

SO, UM, AND THIS IS THE DATABASE WE ASKED THEM.

SO WHERE, WHERE DID WE GO FROM FROM YOU? OKAY.

IT'S KIND OF FAIRLY OBVIOUS TO ME THAT WE FOCUSED OUR EFFORTS IN NUMBER ONE, WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST DILAPIDATED RENTAL UNITS.

AND IT'S THE CYCLE THAT WE GET OUR SUB CALLED INTO DO SOMETHING WITH ANY OF THEM.

WE HAVE TO PROVIDE HOW TO PATENT EXCEPTION, UH, ACCEPTABLE HOUSING TO RELOCATE THAT'S RIGHT.

AND, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T GO IN THERE AND IDENTIFY THESE HOUSES AND GET THEM REGISTERED AND HAVE HAD THE PLAN IN PLACE, WHETHER WE CAN START WHITTLING AWAY ON THAT SITUATION AND GOOD DAYS.

AND SOME PEOPLE WILL STEP UP AND FIX.

I DOUBT IT BECAUSE OF THEIR ALL RENTAL UNITS IN OUR HISTORY WITH THE LANDLORDS IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD IS NOT VERY, IT'S NOT VERY ACCEPTABLE, BUT I THINK PUTTING, I THINK GOING OUT AND JUST DOING SOMETHING AND PUTTING THEM ON NOTICE THAT SOMETHING IS HAPPENING AND THERE WE'RE PUTTING THEM ON NOTICE THAT WE'RE WATCHING THEM AND WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THEN WE CAN START ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY DOING SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN ACQUIRE SOME PROPERTIES AND BRING THEM UP TO CODE AND MAKE NEW RENTAL UNITS OUT OF THEM OR THE RELOCATION PROCESS THAT GOES ON.

OKAY, WELL, WHAT I MEAN, KIP WAS LEADING TO IT.

AND MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST DO A REGISTRATION PROGRAM AT THIS POINT AND NOT AN INSPECTION PROGRAM?

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SO IN ESSENCE, YOU KNOW, UM, COME INTO THE AREA AND REGISTER EVERYBODY, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IT PUTS THEM ON NOTICE SOMETHING'S BEING DONE.

WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

WE KNOW WHO THE OWNER IS, THIS IS THE STATE OF IT.

UM, BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO THESE PLACES, JUST LIKE I WENT INTO THAT PLACE THAT DAY.

NOW PEOPLE SAY, PLEASE DON'T TURN ME IN BECAUSE IT'S SO BAD IN THERE.

AN INSPECTOR WOULD SHUT IT DOWN.

AND THAT'S MY CONCERN IS IN THE INSPECTOR GOING IN FINDING, YOU KNOW, NOT GOOD SITUATIONS AND THE LANDLORD JUST TELL THEM THAT PEOPLE WILL GET OUT, CAUSE I'M NOT FIXING.

AND THAT IS MY CONCERN IS THE ALDERMAN AND BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS FOCUS AREA OR THE CITIZENS THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY THROWN OUT OF THEIR HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN MOST CASES IT'S NOT SAFE.

BUT WHEN I WENT INTO THAT DAY WAS NOT SAFE AT ALL, BUT THE WOMAN WAS IN TEARS AND SHE HAD NOWHERE TO GO AND SHE HAD THREE LITTLE BABIES.

YEAH.

SO WHAT DO YOU DO? YEAH.

I MEAN, I WAS HOW TO GET ON THE SOCIAL SERVICE BOARD, BUT ALWAYS PULLED OUT.

I AM, I HAVE TO DO THE ONLY THING I DON'T DO.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION IS, CAN YOU SEPARATE THE TWO, CAN WE AT LEAST REGISTER HIM WITH THESE PROPERTIES AND GET THEM IN A REGISTRY AND UNDERSTAND WHO, WHO THE LANDLORDS ARE, WHO THE RENTERS ARE, WHERE THESE PROPERTIES ARE AND IDENTIFY THE REAL PROBLEMS SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE READY TO GO IN THERE WITH OTHER PLACES TO LIVE, YOU CAN SAY, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS NUMBER ONE ON OUR LIST.

NOW THE INSPECTOR CAN GO IN BECAUSE WE HAVE, IF IT'S THAT BAD, WE HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM TO GET AFFORD.

THERE'S OTHER THINGS I'M JUST BRAINSTORMING.

AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT IS MY LARGEST CONCERN.

LIKE WITH THE PROPERTY, I GUESS, KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF OF HONOR'S COMMENTS WITH PAIN, THE REGISTRATION ASPECT OF THE INSPECTION PROGRAM, DIFFERENT OR SIMILAR TO A COMEDY PROGRAM IS ARTICULATE.

IT WOULD BE THE SAME.

OKAY.

SO POTENTIALLY IT'S JUST A REGISTRATION.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ATTACHED TO IT, BUT A FEE.

SO POTENTIALLY WE COULD IMPLEMENT THE RESIDENTIAL RENNER PERMITTING PLAN FIRST, BEFORE WE DO THIS.

AND ALSO, I MEAN, THERE ARE A BUNCH OF VACANT, LOTS AND FOCUSING ON, I DON'T KNOW, THERE ARE EVERYTHING WITHOUT EVERYTHING THAT IS A VACANT LOT AND THERE ARE LOTS OF THEM, BUT YES, IN GENERAL IT APPEARS TO ME AND MY DIVISION THAT THERE ARE VACANT LOTS OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD ZONE.

YES.

WE EVEN OWN A COUPLE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THE COUPLE THAT WE IN THE COUNTY, WOULD THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY CONSTRUCT NEW HOUSING STOCK FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRANSITIONAL HOUSING ON THOSE LINES? ABSOLUTELY.

BUT I KNOW THE GUY THAT PERMITS THE WHOLE WELL, I MEAN, WE WOULD NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD.

UM, AND AS FAR AS FIGURING OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT AND BUILD IT DEPENDS.

I MEAN, MR. WILLIAMS HAS ELOQUENTLY STATED THAT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IS A PROBLEM FOR ALL KINDS OF REASONS.

WE'RE RUNNING INTO AN ISSUE WITH TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THIS, UM, INSPECTION PROGRAM, WHICH IS VITAL.

BUT IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT ONE PART OF THE PLAN AND WORK ON BUILDING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING STOCK, I CAN FILL TWO PERSONS ON STUFF.

YEAH.

AND IT REALLY WOULDN'T EVEN BE TRANSITIONAL.

NO, NOT A HOUSING PERSON.

SO YOU CAN'T GO AROUND BUILDING TRANSITIONS.

SO RENTAL SHORT TERM ROLE, WHATEVER TERMINOLOGY IS APPROPRIATE, CREATING RENTAL HOUSING STOCK TO BE UTILIZED INAPPROPRIATE THINGS.

CORRECT.

WE CAN DO THAT.

THE ONLY THING STANDING IN THE WAY, IF YOU'RE NOT HAVING THOSE LOTS NOW IS, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY IS WORKING COUNTY TO GET PERMISSION FOR THE COUNTY TO TURN OVER THEIR PORTIONS OF THE CITY.

SO THEREFORE WE CAN FEED THOSE LOTS OF EASY WAY OUT ALL THE LOTS THAT WE OWNED A HUNDRED PERCENT WHEN TRANSFERRED THAT WE FOCUSED ON A COUPLE OF, WE HAVE ONE WE CAN JUST MAYBE ASK.

OKAY.

YEP.

TOTALLY REBUILT.

I MEAN, BUT THE ONE, BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING AS FAR AS THE JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND

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MILES AGAIN, AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE, OKAY.

I JUST TOOK THE BEADLE INSPECTION PROGRAM.

I DON'T, I DON'T, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH MR. WILLIAMS PRESENTATION THAT I THINK IT SHOWS SOME AVENUE FOR US TO BEGIN TO PURSUE THIS.

A LOT OF, PART OF THIS DISCUSSION IS A BIG PARTNER AND I THINK TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF TRYING TO FOCUS ON A COUPLE OF LOTS AND BUILD SOMETHING THERE.

I JUST STARTED TO PLAY INTO THE POCKETS OF FUNDING THAT WE HAVE, UM, FOR LACK OF BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT WE'RE TALKING TO, THEY WERE DUE TO NEW BILLS LIKE THAT.

MAYBE POSSIBLY A THREE AND WHERE WE'RE AT.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHY THE FOCUS THUS FAR HAS BEEN ON FINDING SOMETHING TO REHAB BECAUSE THAT EXPANDS THE USE OF FUNDING WE HAVE THAT WOULD WORK.

SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO GOING THAT ROUTE, BUT IT JUST COMES WITH THE REALITY OF, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SHOTS AT IT AND THEN OUR MONEY'S TIED UP AND JUMPING BACK TO THE QUESTION THAT, UM, JAMIE ASKED WITH REGARD TO THE RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM.

DID I HEAR THAT WE COULD, IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM MORE TIGHTLY TIE, THE RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM TO THAT LITTLE BIT OF DISCRETION INITIALLY, IT'S GOTTA BE BROAD BASED ACROSS THE BOARD, ALL PROGRESS OR REGISTRATION AND THAT'S IT, BUT CAN THAT, NOT, THAT CAN NOT BE USED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO TRIGGER AN INSPECTION.

CORRECT.

SO PROCEDURALLY KENNEDY PLAN BE APPROVED AND I'M WORKING OFF OF A PIPS COMMENT HERE ON THE MANGELS COMMENT.

PROCEDURALLY CAN A RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM BE APPROVED AND FOR LACK OF A BETTER WITH IT, NOT REALLY HAPPY ON THE BACK END OF THAT OR UNFORTUNATE ON THE FRONT END, BECAUSE WHAT I'M ENVISIONING AND WHAT I HEARD IS TO KIND OF EQUATE IT TO THE TWO EXAMPLES.

I HEARD HER IS THE EQUIVALENT OF US TAKING A POLICE OFFICER AND PUTTING HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF HIGHWAY 70 AND SAYING, THE SPEED LIMIT IS 60 MILES AN HOUR.

WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE HERE.

WE'RE WATCHING YOU.

WE WANT TO SLOW YOU DOWN.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO PULL YOU OVER RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE JUST HERE TO WATCH YOU.

IF WE APPROVE A PLAN THAT WAY.

AND THEN WE ALL OF A SUDDEN PUT THE SWITCH AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD AND SAY, OKAY, NOW THE OFFICER'S GOING TO PULL UP, PULL YOU OVER.

YOU SHOULD TAKE A STEP BACK UP RIGHT THERE.

YOU DON'T NEED, BECAUSE WE ARE A THREE DEVELOPMENT AREA PROVED BY THE STATE.

DON'T NEED ANY REASON TO INSPECT THE PROPERTY.

NO, THE ONLY THING, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM, IT'S TWO CAVEATS.

YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SAYING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ONE AND YOU HAVE A MEANS TO ADDRESS LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOMEOWNERS PROBLEMS. IF YOU GO IN AND INSPECT AND THEY NEED A NEW ROOF, YOU NEED A WAY TO PAY FOR THAT.

HOMEOWNERS, HOMEOWNERS.

THAT IS IT.

THERE IS NO OTHER, UM, REQUIREMENTS, BUT FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE RENTERS THAT WILL BE USEFUL FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THERE IS NO, YOU'RE NOT, YOU DON'T GET, WE'RE NOT REQUIRED CAUSE WE'RE NOT REQUIRED ANYTHING.

THAT WAS, UH, THAT IS WHAT, UH, THE STATE STATUTE GRANTS, THE AUTHORITY REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, ONCE YOU DECIDE TO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION.

OKAY.

NOW LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

IF YOU GO IN AND INSPECT THE PLACE THAT RENTAL IT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY.

YEP.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN TO DEAL WITH THAT.

CORRECT.

BUT IF WE GO IN AND IT'S OUR OWNER OWN, AND THEY'RE LIVING THERE AND IT'S EFFICIENT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A WRITTEN PLAN, A REAL PLAN TO DEAL WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT'S HOMEOWNERS, BECAUSE THEN WE HAD THAT REAL SEPARATION.

CORRECT? YEP.

AND FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE,

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IS THAT NOT SOMETHING THAT, UH, MR. WILLIAMS WOULD BE PARTNERED IN WITH HIS PHONE RENTAL? CAUSE HE CAN ONLY DEAL WITH HOMEOWNERS.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN FROM HIS PRESENTATION, HE CAN ONLY DEAL WITH HOMEOWNERS.

AND THEN, THEN IT GETS DOWN TO FUNDING.

UM, HOW, HOW THE FUNDING PORTION OF THAT PROGRAM WOULD BE IN PLACE.

USE OUR USE, OUR CDBG FUNDING HABITAT HAS BEEN A SUB RECIPIENT IN THE PAST.

I WOULD ASSUME THERE WOULD BE A SUB RECIPIENT FOR THOSE FUNDS.

THE ASIA FEEL, MAN.

UM, NO.

UM, SO OUR PROGRAM, WHAT WE, UH, WHAT WE ENVISION IS OUR CDBG, MY REHAB PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'VE HAD FOR YEARS, UM, WOULD BE THE MECHANISM BY WHICH WE USE.

UH, WE ALLOW THOSE LOW, MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE TO REPAIR THEIR HOME.

IT WOULD JUST BE A TRANSFER OF, INSTEAD OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, GETTING THE MONEY, WHICH WE CAN DO HIRING SUBCONTRACTORS.

WE WOULD HIRE HABITAT WHERE THEY SUB RECIPIENT.

IF NOT NOW IT WAS IN THE PAST.

SO THAT'S A LONG WAY TO ANSWER.

YES, IT'S POSSIBLE.

CAN'T MY CONCERN IS FOR A HOMEOWNER.

I DON'T THINK THE PLANE BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT.

IF THERE'S AN ISSUE AS A RENTAL MAIN CONCERN AND THE WHOLE THING ARE THE RENTER BECAUSE THEY IN ESSENCE HAVE NO RIGHTS.

YOU KNOW, THE PLACE IS DILAPIDATED.

THE LANDLORD DOESN'T CARE.

THERE'S NO MONEY.

YOU KNOW, THE LANDLORD, YOU KNOW, IF HE GETS MONEY, HE'S EITHER NOT SPENDING IT.

THAT'S BEEN MY HOME ADDRESS, THAT ISSUE OF IT OTHER THAN TO SAY, OKAY, I SEE THIS DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE.

I KNOW IT'S A RENTAL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LANDLORD INVOLVED.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT IT AND SHUT IT DOWN BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S NOT UP TO PAR, BUT WE'VE BUILT THIS HOUSE OVER HERE AND NOW WE'LL PUT THE PEOPLE WE'LL OFFER FOR THE PEOPLE TO GO THERE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN.

I MEAN, BUT HOW DO YOU DO ONE HOUSE? WHAT A YEAR, EITHER WITH THE CPG PROGRAM THEY'RE GETTING ON THE LIST, BUT AND CDBG FUNDS CAN'T GO TO LANDLORDS.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO RIGHT NOW, IS THAT RIGHT? AND THAT'S, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY LIST OF EVERY LANDLORD AND I WANT THEM ALL IN A ROOM.

YOU SAID THAT ABOUT 10 YEARS, ABOUT EIGHT YEARS.

POSSIBLE, DUDE.

LIKE HE DON'T START THINKING MORE ABOUT BUILDING THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND THEN REVISITING THAT, OKAY, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, WE CAN SPEAK UP, PLEASE BE ABLE TO SIT.

NO, I WAS BAD.

WAS MY THOUGHT.

I WAS JUST LIKE, UM, I FEEL LIKE THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON CREATING THAT HOUSING STOCK.

LIKE WHAT'S YOUR FAN? SO TO ANSWER YOU, I THINK, YES, THAT SHOULD BE DETERMINED.

IT'S A CRITICAL PATH.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS IS THAT WHICH WAS TO ACQUIRE PROPERTIES THAT WE COULD REHAB AND MAKE THEM BRING THEM UP TO CODE AND MAKE THEM RENTAL PROPERTIES, UH, FOR THIS PURPOSE.

UH, I LIKE THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US THAT ARE UNBELIEVABLE.

THEN IT'S THOUGHTFUL WHEN YOU MEET PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY VULNERABLE, LESS VULNERABLE, UM, EVEN BY HAVING A SOLUTION TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, PART OF ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE'RE HERE TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE HOUSING RIGHTS YOU HAVE THAT HAVE THAT INSPECTION PROGRAM.

BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN EVERYBODY'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE FOCUS AND MAYBE YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT THE PRIORITY AND OUT.

I THINK THE HOUSING COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE RATHER HAS EXHAUSTED, NOT EXHAUSTED, BUT HAS, HAS UTILIZED GREAT RESOURCES AND GOTTEN THE BRIGHT LIGHTS TO TRY TO START THIS PROCESS.

IT JUST APPEARED THAT THE HOUSING SKIPPED STATED WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO US.

WAS IT SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES FROM ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF FRONTS? AND I GUESS MY QUESTION TO THE HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE PRESENT, IT IS BASED ON YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE MARKET CURRENTLY, WOULD IT BE A BETTER USE OF OUR FUNDS RIGHT NOW OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO TRY TO ACQUIRE A HOUSE AND REHAB IT AT WHATEVER EXPENSE DID THAT MIGHT TAKE BASED ON

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THE CURRENT HOUSING CONDITIONS OR BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S CORRECT.

WE CAN BUILD WITH CVG FROM NO, WE CANNOT NOT WITHOUT A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OR COMMUNITY CBDO COMMUNITY BUILDING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION.

SO WE HAVE, WE CAN REHAB.

WE DO NOT.

I MEAN, I WENT THROUGH A LENGTHY PROCESS TO APPEAL, TO HUD, TO SEE IF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WOULD QUALIFY.

AND IT DOES NOT.

YOU WENT TO HUD HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT GROUP.

IT TAKES A WHILE.

SO IT DOESN'T REALLY FIT WITH WHAT THE HUD, UM, REQUIREMENTS OR GUIDELINES ARE.

NOT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE USING CDBG FUNDS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

UM, BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF THE, THE CHALLENGES.

YEAH.

MY QUESTION IS BACK TO KIT AND, UM, STEVE, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, THE CHAIR, BASED ON YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE CURRENT MARKET AND THE STOCK IS AVAILABLE, IS IT A BETTER UTILIZATION OF OUR FUNDS AT THE OUTSET TO CONTINUE TO THE REHAB OPTION WHERE WE HAD THIS SO DIFFICULT OR TO CREATE SOMETHING FROM SCRATCH OR YOU'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO GIVE AN OPINION.

TO ME, THE REHAB IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE USE OF THE VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES BECAUSE I SORTED THE REHAB.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS OF THIS IS THAT WE CAN SAY TAKE $15,000 OUT OF DAVE'S REDEVELOPING COMMISSIONS POT, AND THEN YOU'D CPG MONEY TO DO THE REHAB WORK.

AND WE CAN, UH, WE CAN FACILITATE MANY, MANY MORE HOUSING UNITS THAT WAY BY SPREADING THAT COST FACTOR OVER TO FUNDING SOURCES, THEN A NEW CONSTRUCTION HAS GOT TO BE ALL OUT OF THAT LITTLE POT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE.

AND THEN WHEN THAT'S GONE, IT'S BASED OFF.

SO THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT THAT THE EFFECTIVENESS, UH, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ACHIEVE IS BEST ACCOMPLISHED BY ACQUIRING AND REHABBING.

AND SO THE OTHER THOUGHT PROCESSES, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY PROPERTIES WITHIN THIS AREA THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE? BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME HOUSES AND I'M SEEING IT, YOU KNOW, WEEKLY WHO SELLS 10,000, WHO SELL 15,000, THERE'S SOME FORECLOSURES GOING ON.

ARE WE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT? UH, WELL, MR. GENERIC EVADE Y'ALL WAS MUSLIM AT 10 O'CLOCK ON SATURDAY NIGHT, LAST WEEK CAME ABOUT MY ATTENTION.

BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM IS THAT LITTLE SWAMP OF BLUE.

WE SEE UP THERE AT THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN.

YEAH.

ALL THE ONES THAT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE 10, $15,000 DOLLARS PER PIECE OVER THERE, HAS ANYBODY THOUGHT ABOUT THE BAD SHAPE, ONE'S WRITING A LETTER TO THE LANDLORD AND JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU TAKE 10,000? WOULD YOU DO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOUR NUMBER IS AND POTENTIALLY THEN GETTING IT THAT WAY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEEM TO FIND IT ANYMORE.

I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE WE'RE WITH THIS WE'VE LIMITED OURSELVES, RIGHT.

AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BROAD STREET WITH WHICH WE HAVE LOOKED AT BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO WORK WITH OVER ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, SO TO SPEAK, UH, THERE SEEMS TO BE, UH, MORE, WELL, A BETTER HOUSING STOCK OVER THERE FROM A STARTING POINT TO WORK WITH.

AND EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE.

YEAH.

UH, YEAH.

UH, BUT ANYHOW, AND, AND PLUS LOOKING LONG-TERM, YOU KNOW, IT'S CLOSER TO THE OLD TRENT COURT FACILITY, SO IT'S A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR RELOCATING SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE TOO AND SO FORTH, OR THEY STAY IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A BIG DEAL, BUT I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LOT OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT AS WELL.

AND WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL PLACES OVER THERE TO ACQUIRE AND STILL HAVEN'T BEEN IN THEM AND LOOKED AT THEM IN EFFECT.

WE'VE TRIED TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM, SOME OF THEM.

YEAH.

I, YOU KNOW, I, AND I AGREE WITH THE KID AND, UM, AND SEE, IS THAT, IS THAT THE WAY TO GO? WHAT WE HAVEN'T RULED OUT THE OTHER PIECE YET, IF YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU JUST CAN'T PASS UP.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CALLED US, ME.

I TALKED TO ALL PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE WE HAVE TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE PRICE, BUT WHEN THEY SEE A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, THEN YOU KNOW, IT'S ANOTHER BITES AND THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO DO THAT.

SO,

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YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO LOOK AT ALL THE VARIOUS RATIOS.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ACHIEVE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT LOOKING AT IT HOLISTICALLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE TO GO ON.

AND CERTAINLY IF ANYBODY KNOWS OR YOU KNOW, ANYTHING, PLEASE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, LET US KNOW.

I MEAN, WE WALKED STREET TALK, YOU KNOW, BE PAID CALLED AND WHATEVER, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE MADE THIS UP OUT THERE.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WE MADE THE MEETING, BUT WE WERE OFFERED OPERA FREE A HOUSE THAT ON EIGHTH STREET.

YES.

AND YEAH, YEAH, THAT SOUNDS, THAT'S A NICE FREE HOUSE THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S ON EIGHTH STREET, WHICH IS TOTALLY IN THE FLOOD PLAIN BECAUSE ONE OF THE LOWEST PLACES IN ALL OF THE FIELDS, AND SECOND OF ALL, THAT LOOKED LIKE IT BURNED THE WHOLE INSIDE OF IT.

IT BURNED OUT AS A BRICK HOUSE, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE, BUT IT WAS AWFUL.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T USE ANY MONEY DOWN THERE.

SO, I MEAN, WE GET SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THEY'RE IN THE WRONG PLACE.

YEAH.

EVEN ACROSS THE STREET, WANT TO GIVE THEM ONE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET.

I RAN INTO THOSE OWNERS WHILE I WAS OUT YESTERDAY, LOOKING AT SOME OTHER HOUSES AND THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO SELL, BUT I DON'T HAVE TO GO UP VERY MUCH.

SO 10 FEET OVER THERE, H STREET GROUND UP.

BUT AGAIN, SEE WHEN HE FINDS IN THE FLOOD, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO DO.

QUESTION WE CAN SPEND MONEY QUICKLY OR WOULD WE SPEND MONEY WHILE OKAY.

GETTING BACK TO OUR, UH, AGENDA ITEMS, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN GO TWO WAYS OR TWO AND A HALF WAYS OF ONE WAY.

SO WHAT IS THE PLACE OF A COMMISSION? YOU PUT IT BACK ON THEIR AGENDA THIS TIME TO GET THAT.

YEAH.

THAT'S THE LEGAL PART THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO THE LEGAL, WHICH, WHICH PART ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF ANY OF THEM, WHICH ONE ABOUT THE, UM, HAVING AN ACTUAL INSPECTIONS PROGRAM? OH YEAH.

NO, NO.

THE INSPECTIONS PROGRAM WAS FINE.

IT WAS, UM, THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM AND THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

SO REGISTRATION PROGRAM, WE CAN, I CAN GET THAT.

WE HAVE THE LOOK NADIA HAS DONE, UH, WHAT I DON'T HAVE OPEN.

IS THIS A SPREADSHEET THAT DRIVES ALL THIS DATA? SO I HAVE ALL THE LANDLORDS, I HAVE IT, WE CAN DO THE REGISTRATION, BUT IF WE DETERMINE ABOUT THE INSPECTION IS REALLY UP, WE JUST HAVE TO HIT GO.

THAT'S WHY YOU WERE SAYING IT HAD TO BE A STANDALONE COOKIE INSPECTION.

COULDN'T BE APPOINTED.

THAT'S ALL.

WE'LL MAKE IT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YES.

SORRY.

I THOUGHT I'VE HEARD THAT THAT'S WHERE THAT MONEY CAME FROM.

AND THE, THE ISSUE STILL IS IF WE HAVE AN INSPECTION PROGRAM, WE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YES.

AND WE GOT TO HAVE A PART OF THAT DEALING WITH LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS.

OKAY.

WITHOUT THAT, REMEMBER, THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT ON THAT, THAT I KNOW OF THAT SAYS YOU'VE GOT TO START IMPLEMENTING IT TODAY AFTER THE BOARD APPROVED IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

IT COULD GO AT ANY TIME.

I'M THERE WITH YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY WANT TO PUT SOMEBODY IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT SAYS, HEY, DON'T WORRY THAT IT SAYS WE CAN DO TO X, Y, Z.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO START DOING IT YET.

THAT'S NOBODY'S GOING TO HEAR THAT.

YEAH.

AND SEE, I LIKED THE PART OF IT WHERE WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S, THAT IS A POWERFUL PIECE OF COMMUNICATION TO ME THAT WE PUT IT OUT THERE, THAT WE'RE NOW HAVING THE SPECTRUM PROGRAM.

AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF PUTTING PEOPLE ON NOTICE WHO MAY BE PAYING ATTENTION.

NOT SAYING THAT A LOT OF THE LANDLORDS PROBABLY AREN'T PAYING ANY ATTENTION, BUT, UH, I LIKED THAT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE CAN GO AT IT SLOWLY HIT ONE OR TWO, SO THAT THE WORD GETS OUT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

I THINK THAT THAT COULD POSSIBLY, UH, YIELD SOME, SOME BENEFIT IN GETTING SOME PROPERTY, PRODUCT, BETTER CONDITION.

THEY ARE NOW.

CAUSE THERE'S YEAH.

I'M ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOU JUST

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SAID.

I KEEP ENVISIONING AND THEN THAT HOUSE, UM, WE OPENED, WE'RE PUSHING OPEN UP SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT RIGHT THERE IS EIGHT HOURS OF ESCAPE FROM WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, WHERE WE REPORT TO THE CITY AND THE CITY'S RIGHT IN THERE WITH US.

UM, AND WE HAVE TO GIVE THE PERCEPTION OF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING.

IT WASN'T HUMAN BEINGS LAND OVER THERE LIKE THAT, EVEN THOUGH THE DECK IS STACKED AGAINST THEM AND ALL THE LOAN AND ALL THE RIGHTS THAT I JUST LISTENED TO.

RIGHT.

HE IS WHATEVER, BUT THEY WERE GETTING RANKED AND THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT OR NOT GOING BY WHAT THE CHARGE IS OF THEIR RENTAL AGREEMENT.

AND THERE HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH IT FOREVER.

WE HAVE TO STOP.

WE HAVE TO, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS A WORD, I WOULD THROW IT OUT, JUST GET SOME DEEP PERPETUATE YOU REALLY HAVE TO STOP THIS CYCLE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, HOPE IS A DANGEROUS THING.

AND THE PEOPLE WE'RE SELLING TO RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'VE BEEN OVER AT JEFFERSON AVENUE AND Y'ALL BEEN IN THERE WHEN GOD SENT US THE VIDEO AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY CAME.

IT DID SOMETHING ABOUT DUDE, ON THE AVENUE.

IF SOME OTHER PEOPLE DID COME IN, CAUSE THEY THOUGHT Y'ALL WOULD COME IN AND THEN THE UPDATE COMP.

SO THE THING IS LIKE, OH, OKAY, THAT WAS JUST A SCARE.

I'M GONNA GO BACK TO CONTINUE TO TREAT THESE PEOPLE.

SO AS YOU JUST SAY, A PUBLIC COMMENT IS A POWERFUL THING BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE IT LIKE, OH, HERE THEY COME.

THEY CAN ALLOW TO BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH IT SO LONG.

BUT NOW WE'RE HERE.

ALL OF THEM WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AT THE TIME.

THE TIME IS NOW.

SO I'M WITH YOU LET'S HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AT NIGHT.

WE WON'T TELL THEM THAT WE'RE NOT COMING, BUT THAT POLICE OFF DOES THAT MEAN AS LONG AS HE'S OUT THERE, WE DON'T LIKE, SO PEOPLE WILL SLOW DOWN.

WE MIGHT CAN'T PULL THEM, BUT THEY WILL SLOW DOWN.

BUT Y'ALL WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TIME.

AND I WENT BROTHER WALLACE AND HIS SERMONETTE.

I AGREE WITH ALL THAT.

AMEN.

HOWEVER, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THOSE THREE BABIES BEING IN THAT DILAPIDATED HOUSE, DON'T LIKE HIM IN THAT DILAPIDATED HOUSE, BUT I SURE DON'T WANT TO LIVE UNDER THE MISERABLE.

AND WE HAVE TO BALANCE THOSE INTERESTS.

AND I AGREED.

AND HE WAS LIKE, AND WALK OUT THE DOOR, YOU'RE MORE APT TO DO SOMETHING.

RIGHT.

BUT IF THE WOLF COMES TO THE DOOR AND THEN RETALIATION ON THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND THERE'S NO RECOURSE FOR THEM.

AND THEN WHAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION COMES IN, WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU OUT ONTO THE STREET THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO PUT YOU AND GO DODD IT.

AND WE HOPE IT WORKS OUT.

ALL RIGHT.

NO, I DIDN'T SAY IT.

I SAID, THROW IT OUT AND HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT HE GETS READY TO GO.

WHILE IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON AND WE SET IT UP BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS TOPIC, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO ALREADY BE REHABBING FOR THE SWITCH.

SO GOING SLOW TO GO FAST.

THERE IS A BALANCE THAT WHEN WE HAVE A REHAB, WHEN WE HAVE A REHAB HAS A HOUSE AVAILABLE, THE INSPECTORS SHUT SOMEBODY DOWN, WE GET ANOTHER HALF READY.

THEY SHUT SOME, A SECOND PERSON DOWN THAT THAT HAS TO BE BAD.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.

HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE OTHER THING.

AND Y'ALL HELPED ME WORK THROUGH IT.

WE GOT THIS INSPECTION PROGRAM AND WE START COLLECTING THE DEBT INSPECTOR ROLE PAST THE HOUSE AND SAID, OH, THAT'S ON MY LIST.

AND I CAN LOOK FROM THE OUTSIDE AND SEE THE INSIDE.

I KNOW THAT THIS IS UNSAFE.

ARE WE THEN ASKING THAT INSPECTOR TO SAY THAT, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, ETHICALLY DOES THAT, WHERE DOES THAT PUT THAT INSPECTION? OR IS THAT NOT A CONSIDERED, THAT'S ALWAYS A CONSIDERATION.

UM, SO YOU LEAD A PROCESS.

AND AGAIN, UM, WE SPOKE ABOUT IT.

LAST MEETING IS TAKE DOWNS, SECTIONS SMALLER OR SECTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S FAIR.

AND THAT KEEPS THE INSPECTOR OUT OF THOSE GAMES AND KEEPS THE CITY ON THE COMMISSION AWAY FROM THE NOTION THAT YOU'RE PICKING AND CHOOSING THE WINNERS AND THAT YOU'RE PICKING ON PEOPLE.

IT'S A VERY, WE'RE TAKING DOWN THIS BLOCK THIS MONTH, THIS BLOCK, THE NEXT MONTH OR WHATEVER TIMEFRAME IS A 1, 2, 3 TO 100 WHERE WE'RE ON NUMBER ONE AND WHATEVER THREE IS, WE'LL BE ON NUMBER 18, BUT IT'S GOING TO GO BLOCK BY BLOCK.

THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

NOW THERE'S NO REASON TO, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENTS TO DO IT THAT WAY RATHER THAN SPOT MY

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SPOT ZONING.

YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

LIKE MIKE WAS SAYING, YOU WANT TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

OKAY.

AND SO I WOULD GO TO SAY A BLOCK OF THE STREET, UH, PICK THE STREET, WHATEVER IT IS AND SAY, LET'S, LET'S FOCUS ON THE FOUR HOUSES ARE ON THIS STREET AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE AND THE SAFETY AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE ALONG THIS LITTLE PIECE OF STREET HERE.

AND THEN WE GET THAT DONE THEN TO GO WORK ON ANOTHER TALK SO THAT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE SEASON PROVED, IT BECOMES A HIGHER QUALITY AREA TO LIVE IN PERCEIVED TO BE HIGHER, POSITIVE LIVE IN AND, AND THIS CREATE THAT ENVIRONMENT IMPROVE ENVIRONMENT.

SO MY QUESTION KIT AND THAT VISION THAT YOU JUST ARTICULATED ON THE STREET, WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY AND THEIR PARENTS ARE THREE BLOCK LANDLORD OFF STREET.

ONE SAYS, I'M THIS AND TENANTS IN HOUSE OF LANDLORD ON, ON ARE EITHER EVICTED OR ARE THIS PLACE BECAUSE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET STREET AND ONE TOGETHER, THERE HAS TO BE SOME STRONG ACTION IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

WHAT DID I ANSWER TO THAT FROM THE ANSWER? IS THAT SOMEPLACE TO REPLACE THEM TOO.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH.

THE WHOLE TIME WE WOULDN'T GO IN, WE, WE CAN'T, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE CAN'T GO IN AND DISPLACE MORE PEOPLE THAN WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO RELOCATE THAT THAT'S, THAT HAS TO BE THAT'S THE BALANCING ACT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE WITHIN THE PROGRAM.

UH, REHAB IS GOING TO BE A RELOCATION, NOT EVERY REHAB SIGN A RELOCATION, BUT IF THAT'S TRUE TOO.

YEAH.

SO WE DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, IT COULD BE TERRIBLE.

I MEAN, WE, WE MIGHT ACQUIRE REHAB THAT WE CAN TURN INTO A THREE BEDROOM TWO AND TO SEVERAL THREE BEDROOMS. THE ONE THAT WE LOOKED AT AND POLLOCK STREET WAS GOING TO BE ONE BUILDING THAT WAS GOING TO BE TWO, A THREE, A TWO BEDROOM UNIT AND A THREE BEDROOM UNIT.

SO THAT'S TO ACQUIRE ONE BUILDING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH, TO HANDLE TWO FAMILIES THAT IN THAT TRAN NOT TRANSITION AT WORK, UH, RELOCATION PROCESS, THE ROOMS, LET'S SAY, UM, GOD FORBID, SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS.

THEY SAY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REHAB.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE YOURSELF NOW AS HOME OWNERS, THEY OWN THE PROPERTY.

WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? WHAT HAPPENS AT 47% OF THE PLACES VACANT BECAUSE OF FASTING? THEY, THEY, UM, THEY ACCUMULATE FINES.

AT SOME POINT THEY ARE TOLD THERE WAS AN ORDER THAT FROM OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR THAT SAYS IT'S FILED AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE RIDES ON THE DEED RIDES ON THE PROPERTY, ANYONE PURCHASES THE PROPERTY THAT COMES UP AND THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO FIX YOU WITH VERY SPECIFIC LIST OF THINGS, YOU NEED TO BRING IT UP INTO A MINIMUM HOUSING IF THEY DON'T GET IT DONE BY THE TIME IN THAT ORDER, I GUESS, POINTED OUT.

OKAY.

SO THERE IS SOMETHING AT THE END OF THE TONE FOR THE LAMBO, THEY DON'T JUST GET TO, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN, THERE'S TELLING THEM WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE JUST GOT TO BE METHODICAL ABOUT HOW WE'RE DOING IT.

MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE HOUSING BEAR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT NOBODY OUT EITHER.

UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT KIP SAID, THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.

BUT ONCE WE GET IT, THAT'S WHY IT'S METHODICAL TO KEEP IT.

SO AT LEAST WE HAVE A PLAN AND HE'S LANDED OVER IT ON ME.

THEY DON'T JUST GET IT.

AND THEN THEY GET AWAY WITH IT.

THE OTHER THING TOO IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST SO TIRED THAT MANUAL, IT'S JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERYBODY.

THERE'S A REASON THEY ARE MANUAL AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEVER EVER MENTIONED HERE, THERE ARE OTHER HOUSING COMPLEXES BEING, BEING BUILT.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE WANNA MOVE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I COULD SAY, IF THAT'S YOUR NECK, THAT'S YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU WANT TO LIVE THERE.

YOU SHOULD HAVE, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT.

RIGHT.

CAUSE IT, AIN'T NOTHING WRONG WITH GETTING THERE.

IF YOU WANT TO BE A PIG.

ABSOLUTELY.

LET ME THAT, THAT SHOULD BE YOUR RIGHT, BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT TO MOVE IT.

SO, UM, AS ALL THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE BEING, YOU KNOW, BEING BUILT, THERE'S ONE BEHIND KEVIN DRIVE.

THERE IS ANOTHER TAX CREDIT COMING.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT EDUCATING THEM ON THE BACK.

WE JUST, JUST THINKING, WELL, OKAY, THE LANDLORD GOING TO KICK THEM OUT AND THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT THERE'S OTHER ALTERNATIVES

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ARE TOO.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, JUST ASSUMING THAT THE LANDLORD IS GONNA, UM, UM, KICK THEM OUT.

NOT THAT DAY, COME ON.

I'VE SEEN IT.

I'VE SEEN IT ONCE OR TWICE WHEN I, WHEN I, UH, WORKED IN THAT WHOLE BRAND.

UH, BUT UM, AFTER THEY GOT CALLED, PEOPLE WOULD LET BACK IN TOO, BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINKING EITHER AGE OR IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOOD AT SOME THINGS A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT WE THINK.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT SOONER OR LATER, SO HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU SAID, SO, AND YOU'RE PLAYING, SECOND OF ALL, IT'S BEEN GOING ON LONG ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE THE SAME STORY THAT HE GOT UP AND TOLD THE SAME STORY THAT I'VE BEEN TELLING FOR.

SO NOW, YOU KNOW, THAT I WAS TELLING YOU, IT WASN'T JUST ME, UH, BEING A PSYCHOSIS.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST BUT SERIOUSLY.

I MEAN, WHAT ARE, I MEAN, HERE WE ARE, HE'S PROVIDED THAT.

THAT'S WHAT WE ASK.

AND I, I MEAN, I TRULY UNDERSTAND A LOT OF US HAVE CANNED PEOPLE OVER THERE.

A LOT OF US HAVE WORKED IN THAT COMMUNITY FOR YEARS AND KNOW PEOPLE PERSONALLY, UM, SOME FOLKS ON SOME OF US HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR CHURCH ROLE THERE, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW, ALL CHILDREN FROM SCHOOL.

I MEAN, BUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHERE DO WE GO? IT'S YES, MA'AM THE TRANSITIONAL, I MEAN, HOUSING, I MEAN, OTHER OPTIONS COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, US NOT BEING INVOLVED NECESSARILY, BUT WE HAVE OTHER RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE FAITH BASED MOVIES, I MIGHT BE WILLING TO HELP WITH FAMILIES IN THE INTERIM.

UM, YOU HAVE RCS THAT HAS NOW FIVE NEW FAMILY ROOMS, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE DISPLACED.

I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE LIKE HOMELESS PEOPLE COMING IN, BUT THEY'RE THERE FOR THE SENTENCE TODAY.

I MEAN THAT THESE ARE JUST RESOURCES TO INVESTIGATE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE MOVE FORWARD TO JUST THINK ABOUT THIS.

SO WE HAVE MAYBE A PLAN B FOR HAVING PEOPLE TO GO TO.

AND I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHAT DOES THE PUBLIC HEARING LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT HAVING STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE KNOW THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED, STATE STATUTE REQUIRES US TO HOLD A PUBLIC HERE, RIGHT? THAT'S THE SENTENCE.

BUT THE PUBLIC, ALL THE REGULAR, THE PARENT REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

SO IT HAS TO BE NOTICED.

AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THERE'S NO FORMAT TO NOTICE PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING IS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BEFORE THE BOARD ALL BEFORE THE GOVERNING BOARD BOARD MUST HOLD IT PROPERLY.

NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING, I THINK IS EXACTLY YES.

AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT SAYS A LOT OF RESOURCES OUT THERE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, RCS ACTUALLY STAYS, STAYS PRETTY, PRETTY FULL, BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS A RESOURCE IN THERE OTHER ONES TOO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME BETTER ONES OVER HERE, YOUR VETERAN HOUSES.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH IT'S OTHER RESOURCES AND YOU REALLY HADN'T BEEN HAD, YOU KNOW, UM, WHITE, UH, ACTUALLY A LOT OF PROBLEMS, AS YOU SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO THINK OF, CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU DON'T THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE.

SO ARE YOU CALLING FOR A RUSSIAN LITERATURE EXAM? AND SO IN, IN INCLINE AND IT GETS OFF, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HARD DECISION TO MAKE BECAUSE I'M NOT, DON'T LET US FALL INTO THE TRAP.

UM, THAT SOME PEOPLE TRY TO PUT THIS IN.

WE DO CARE.

WE DO CARE, THOUGHTFUL, UNDERSTANDING THE REALITY OF WHAT'S OUT THERE.

BUT, UM, MAYBE YOU THINK JOHN YOUNG.

YES, YES, YES, SIR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, ANY COMMENTS TO ADD AND SORTED OUT? NO, I'M JUST SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WOULD BE THE BEST.

AND I'M HOPING OUR VICE CHAIRMAN HAS A MOTION THAT MIGHT

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OKAY.

JERRY, YOU HAD ANOTHER BOARD SO THERE'S TWO PATHS AND THANKS TO SOME OF MAYBE WHAT WE MANGLE WAS GETTING AT IS WE CAN START WITH REGISTRATION.

THAT THAT IS A, THAT'S A SHOT OVER THE BOW, PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE THAN A TOTAL ABOUT THAT IS THAT WE ARE BEGINNING OUR PROGRAM.

UM, AND GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO GET A HOUSE.

I MEAN, I, WE CAN PURCHASE THEM IS THE ISSUE IS EVERYONE THINKS THEIR HOMES ARE WORTH A LOT MORE IS MOST OF THESE HOUSES, THESE HOUSES ARE TEAR DOWNS AND WE ARE REALLY MAKING A PRETTY GENEROUS OFFER CONSIDERING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN.

SO THERE IS AN, AS STEVE WAS SAYING, SURE, IT MAY BE 10, 15, $20,000 DIFFERENCE, BUT IT STILL IS A 10, 15, $20,000 DIFFERENCE.

UM, AND WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS DOING IS REALLY JUST TRYING TO DEFEND THEIR DECISIONS, UH, WITH TAX PAYER MONEY AND NOT JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT IT MAY BE $120,000 PROJECT.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY SPENDING $7,000 OF REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FUNDS STILL TAXPAYER FUNDS.

AND THEY WERE VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT WANTING TO, AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND, PURCHASING THE PROPERTY.

WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH A COUPLE OF, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HOMEOWNERS OR PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW.

UM, YOU KNOW, UM, THE PASSING OF COMMISSIONER SAMSON HAS SLOWED THOSE CONVERSATIONS DOWN AND THEY'RE STARTING BACK UP AGAIN.

SO WE'VE GOT TWO WAYS TO DO IT, OR WE GO AND WE CAN DO BOTH OF THEM AND GET THE PUBLIC HEARING GOING, OR COMMISSIONER WALLS THE SAME, JUST GET IT OUT THERE AND GET IT OUT OF THE WAY.

UM, WE CAN SAY WE HAVE NO INTENTION TO BEGINNING THE PROGRAM UNTIL JULY, OR YOU COULD SAY THAT.

UM, BUT JUST TO GET THAT, CHECK THAT BOX OFF AND GET PUBLIC INPUT TO, IT MAY BE THAT SOME PEOPLE, MOST PEOPLE LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER MORGAN WAS GUNG HO ABOUT THIS AND THEY WANT TO DO IT, DO IT, DO IT, DO IT.

AND WE MAY BE SURPRISED TO FIND THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY SHOW UP AND SAY DO IT.

SO I DON'T SEE HIM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MY THOUGHTS.

RIGHT? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, LET ME SAY THIS, THERE'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHILE, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID THAT ANYTHING HAPPENS ON OUR WALK WITH SOMEBODY LIVING IN THE LACK OF DATA.

YEAH.

DETERIORATING MORE.

WOW.

AND YOU ARE, AND YOU'RE THINKING THROUGH IT BECAUSE YOU DO HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, IF IT COMES BACK IN DECEMBER, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SAVE THE SEASON.

YES, SIR.

ASK AT THIS POINT, MAKE THE MOTION, LET'S GO.

AND THEN I'LL TAKE CARE OF THE LOBBYING AT THAT NECESSARILY.

I LIKE MADAM CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE, UH, CONSTRUCT STAFF TO CREATE THE RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION PROGRAM FOR REVIEW AND A FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THIS COMMISSION BEFORE BEING FORWARDED TO THE NEW-BORN BOARD OF ALDERMAN FOR APPROVAL.

OKAY.

I MOVE THAT.

WE TO DEVELOP IT, THE WRITTEN INSPECTION PROGRAM FOR FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR FORWARDING TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN ON THE BASIS OF WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN TERMS OF REGISTRATION AND INSPECTION.

I JUST, I JUST STUCK WITH IT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INSPECTION RIGHT NOW.

NOT THAT THIS DIDN'T AFFECT YOU BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S TWO SEPARATE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

DID WE HAVE A SECOND DISCUSSION? JUST A CLARIFICATION.

WHEN YOU SAY CREATE THE PROGRAM, THAT IS IT

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CHECK, LISTS, EVERYTHING THAT INSPECTORS ARE GOING TO USE AND HOW THE, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOTTEN DIDN'T TAKE OUT WAS OVERBURDENING YOU NO, NO, NO, NO.

BUT THE, THE OFFICER WOULD BE THE PORTION THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS.

OKAY.

THAT THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ONLY CONTROVERSIAL PART.

YEAH.

AS FAR AS MAYBE EVEN BREAKING DOWN THE AREAS AND BLOCKS OR BLOCKS OF WHATEVER.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE WANT THAT IN THERE NOW, BUT I SPILLED OUT AND BREAK THEM DOWN THAT WAY AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

THERE'S THAT MORE PROCEDURAL THAT DOESN'T EVEN MEAN? I THINK THAT'S JUST A SHEET.

I THINK IT'S PROCEDURAL THAT WE DEAL WITH ONCE THE PROGRAM GETS APPROVED.

SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A 30,000 FOOT PROGRAM THAT WE WILL WRITE THE INDEPENDENCE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THAT.

SO YOU DON'T WANT TO CHECK LESSONS THAT I DID WITH THE CHECKLIST AND EVERYTHING.

WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THEM, THE BLOCKS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT, BREAKING IT DOWN INTO REAL, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE RELOCATING YEAH.

80% THERE, ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

UH, NAYS, PERMISSION, YOUNG DUDES, YOUR BOAT.

I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WANT TO GO TO

[6. Committee Updates]

THE REGISTRATION FOR WHERE OR RIGHT.

THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL AND IS A REVENUE SOURCE UP TO $500 HOUSE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR ON THAT, STAFF WILL BRING IT THAT PLAN AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL VOTE TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THAT PLAN.

AND BASED ON THAT VOTE, THEN THE PLAN MADE BEFORE TO THE BOARD.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I'LL.

THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR, UM, THE CDBG PROGRAM.

GET THEM ON PARALLEL TRACK WITH ALL OF THIS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.

YES.

THE, UM, THE ADMINISTRATOR IS IN, UM, IN THEIR ROOM AND THE COURT DATE, UM, AS A PART OF OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR 2020, IT WAS PROPOSED TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, TO REHAB UNITS WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY AREA.

AND THOSE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THE REPAIR AND RENOVATION.

SO WE'RE ON THE ROAD TO SOME VISIBLE PROGRESS WITH THAT PROGRAM.

YEAH.

I JUST NEED A PROPERTY.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, ADAM SIX COMMITTEE UPDATES.

I JUST NEED TO SHOW WE, UM, WE HAVE, UH, AN UPDATE FOR, FOR HOUSING COSTS.

Y'ALL WENT TO THE HOUSE FIRST AND THEN WE HAVE TO HELP.

YEAH.

WE BASICALLY TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING.

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL HOUSES AND I'M LOOKING AT ALL IT, SEEING SOME WONDERFUL THINGS AND THE ONES WE DID GO IN, WE WERE, I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT NOBODY WAS LIVING IN THEM.

YES, YES, YES.

I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, NEIGHBOR, NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY.

UM, NEIGHBORHOOD.

YEAH, THAT'S ME.

I'M SORRY.

I WAS GOING RIGHT TO HELP HIM ALONG GETTING READY.

UM, SO WE ARE STILL COORDINATING, UM, THE WALL BUILDING CLEANUP.

I HAD A WALKTHROUGH WITH NAT MONTANA A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

HE IS, HE HAD SOME FAMILY ISSUES THAT HE HAD TO TAKE CARE OF.

SO THAT WAS CANCELED.

THEY DIDN'T WANT A VACATION.

UM, SO WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T REGROUPED ON THAT ONE YET, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE WELCOME AND CLEAN UP.

UM, HE'S FAMILIAR WITH IT, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WORKS.

UM, WE JUST GOT TO GO THROUGH AND AGAIN, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MOST IMPORTANT WAS.

THE IMPORTANT STUFF IS AND GO FORWARD

[01:45:01]

WITH THAT.

SO I'LL GET ON HIS SCHEDULE AGAIN.

WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CARS.

WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING ABOUT CARS, EXCEPT WE HAVEN'T BEEN WORKING ON AN INFORMATIONAL.

UM, WELL WE HAVEN'T DONE IS FIGURED OUT THE METHODOLOGY TO GET IT OUT YET SEVEN, EIGHT, THEY GET IT AND WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT.

I'LL BRING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, I'LL BRING THAT WITH THE NEXT, AT THE NEXT MEETING.

UH, WE PROPOSE TO DO THAT AND KNOW WE CAN HIT GO ON THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMUNITY EVENTS OR THINGS THAT INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME, BUT THE HOUSE OF THE FACEBOOK PAGE, WHICH IS THE WAY YOU DISSEMINATE INFORMATION.

SO YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.

SO I DID MEET WITH THE, I DID MEET WITH AMY LAST WEEK AND THAT WAS THE LAST, UM, THAT WAS THE LAST QUESTION ON HOW I WOULD GET THEM THE LIST OF BANDS AND HOW THEY LIVE AND WITH THE INFORMATION THAT THEY COULD GIVE BACK TO ME.

SO I HAVE THE OFFICER, THE CAPTAIN WHO I'LL GIVE THE BINS TO WHEN HE WILL SIMPLY TELL ME IF IT'S STOLEN OR NOT, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT IT.

SO I DID THAT LAST WEEK.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M TOLD THAT I CARED ABOUT.

TAKE IT AWAY, MARIA.

THAT WAS MY TARGET.

OKAY.

UH, SO LAST TIME WE, WE HAD THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THE COMMISSION WANTED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY LECTURE SERIES THAT MARIA AND JOHN AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WITH SOME REALLY EXCELLENT COMMUNITY PARTNERS, ONE OF WHICH IS SITTING HERE WITH US TONIGHT.

UM, AND IT SEEMS EVERY TIME WE MEET, WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE, UM, INTERESTED IN HELPING OUT AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE TAKEN ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN.

SO WE PROVIDED THE DATA TO YOU, HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT.

UM, AGAIN, THERE WAS A, ANOTHER PART OF THIS, WHICH IS THE COST PART.

UM, AND THIS WAS THE FIRST LECTURE OR IS THAT WHAT THIS WAS? YEAH, THAT'S SUCH A BRIDGES.

I THINK IT WAS KIND OF LIKE AN OUTLINE OF ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS AN OUTLINE THAT HE, YEAH, YEAH, CORRECT.

AND WE HAVE LIKE, WHAT WOULD WE TALK ABOUT? HOW WOULD IT WORK AND IN THE PROCESS? SO THE PROCESS IS LAID OUT HERE, THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMMITTEE KIND OF CAME TO THIS AND, AND, UH, AND THE REASONING BEHIND IT.

SO IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THIS IS THE TIME TO ASK THEM, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, WITH THE PROGRAM.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I'LL PREFACE MY QUESTION WITH, I AM REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THE WELLNESS COMMITTEE HAS SET THE MAINTENANCE DONE ON, ESPECIALLY AS IT'S ARTICULATED ON YOUR FIRST DOCUMENT HERE, THAT THERE'S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF COMMUNITY COLLABORATION, UM, AND, AND A GREAT DEAL OF RESEARCH THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS, UM, SIGNALED THE BEST ABOUT THAT.

UM, CAN WE GO TO PAGE TWO? SO ON THAT DOCUMENT, I READ SOMETHING ABOUT CULTURAL WELLNESS.

AND I GUESS IF IT'S A TERM THAT I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UM, CAN SOMEONE ON THAT SUB COMMITTEE KIND OF EXPOUND UPON WHAT CULTURAL WELLNESS OF CORPORATE HEALTH MEANS? WELL, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SO WE ARE BEING GUIDED, UM, AND DR.

FISHER, YOU CAN POP IN AT ANY TIME TO DISCUSS IT.

SO IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, MR. JONES, HE'S KINDA BEEN OUR COMMUNITY ADVOCATE AND, UM, HE HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH DR.

O, UM, AND ALSO, UM, HE ALSO HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY.

SO THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT THIS POINT.

AND HE'S VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, DR.

BRIDGES WHO'S BEEN HERE BEFORE.

I THINK HE WAS AT A COMMUNITY REALLY ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY AT THIS MORNING, UM, USING THIS AS A TOOL TO ENGAGE.

UM, THIS PIECE SPECIFICALLY WOULD LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF HEALTH AND THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, AND JUST LIKE RAISING AWARENESS, HE FEELS THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT AT THIS POINT.

UM, MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY DRAW THEM TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMISSION, TO BUILDING MORE TRUST AND BUILDING BRIDGES.

AND, UM, SO I AM, YOU KNOW, I'M LISTENING TO HIM AND, YOU KNOW, JEFF HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE MEETINGS AS HAS THAT PETITIONER.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT HEALTH FROM A COMPREHENSIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, MIND, BODY, SPIRIT APPROACH.

I MEAN, WHEN WE HEARD, UM, MR. WILLIAMS

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SPEAK TODAY ABOUT HOUSING, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAVE IN MEETINGS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT HEALTH FROM A MORE SYSTEMIC POINT OF VIEW, RIGHT ON IT, LIKE A LOT OF, OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT LOVE THE DIFFERENT SOCIAL DETERMINANTS.

AND I LISTED THEM ON THE FIRST PAGE AND THEN THE BARRIERS TO THAT.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE BARRIERS, YOU DON'T HAVE HEALTH.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HEALTH, NOT JUST PHYSICAL HEALTH, BUT ALSO HEALTH OF, UM, YOU KNOW, OF THE MIND AND THE SPIRIT.

SO THAT WAS JUST ONE PART OF THE PROGRAM IS TO KIND OF BUILD CULTURAL AWARENESS, TO TALK ABOUT SELF-DEVELOPMENT, TO TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, CULTURAL ASPECTS.

AND THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

I JUST CONFUSED IT.

GOOD, GOOD, GOOD.

I SHOULD ANSWER THAT TOO.

UM, CERTAINLY, UM, MOST PEOPLE LOOK ON, UM, HEALTH AS AN ENGINE AND AN INDIVIDUAL ASPECT, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER APPROACH COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE APPROACH THAT PUBLIC HEALTH TAPES, WHICH IS THE DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT OF COMMUNITY.

IF YOU WILL LOOK ON THE LAST TWO PARAGRAPHS OF THE DOCUMENT, SECOND PAGE OF THAT DOCUMENT, I THINK THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD EXPLANATION OF THAT.

UM, IT SAYS, AND THIS IS THE APPROACH THAT THE PRIMITIVE FIVE DOCTOR IN YOUR SYSTEMATIC APPROACH, INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON INDIVIDUAL ASPECTS OF HEALTH, HEALTH, AND WELLNESS MAY BEGIN TO EXPLORE THE ROOT PROBLEMS OF HEALTH INEQUITIES.

SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GO TO THE ROOT PROBLEMS OF THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY, AND RATHER THAN THE SPECIFIC HEALTH THAT THEY, THEY INDIVIDUALLY, UM, IN SOME RESEARCH HAS BEEN DONE OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS, THE HEALTH OUTCOMES IS ALWAYS ABOUT ONLY 20% OF THAT IS SUSPECTED BY, UH, HOSPITALS AND DOCTORS WORKING INDIVIDUALLY.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE GREATEST OUTCOMES ARE, IT'S IN DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT OF THE COMMUNITY AND LOOKING AT THE SOCIAL FACTORS AND, UM, VACCINATION IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS, UH, YOU VACCINATE TO PROTECT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, NOT SPECIFICALLY THE INDIVIDUAL.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CNR DOCUMENT, THE MAIN THINGS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT IN 2015 MORE INDIVIDUAL HEALTH MATTERS.

SO I WANT IN HEALTH INSURANCE AND WANTING, UH, A, A, UH, BRICKS AND MORTAR BUILDING IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, THAT'S OBVIOUS WE CAN'T ATTACK THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN ATTACK PLUS CAUSING THE COMMUNITY TO BE SICK.

AND I THINK IF YOU READ THOSE LAST TWO PARAGRAPHS THAT YOU MIGHT GET SOME UNDERSTANDING WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THAT POINT, SO IF YOU'VE REALLY SERIOUSLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN, UM, THE MORE COMPREHENSIVE WAY, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I MEAN, I, I THINK THE DOUBLE FIVE OF COURSE IS WHAT WE STARTED BEFORE THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.

I MEAN, THAT IS, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN, OUR INTENTION IS TO HAVE A BUILDING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, DR.

FISHER AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THE SPEAKERS HERE, UM, DR.

HINTON AND I DON'T KNOW HIM PERSONALLY, I JUST HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH IN, IN THE CARE.

UM, AND THE CARE FEELING THAT HE CONCEALING THE CARE, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT AND EURO, AND WITH CARE STANDS FOR AN AD, WAS COMMUNITY ACTION, ADVOCACY RESTORATION WITH THE PARAMEDIC, WHAT THAT IS, IT'S A CLINIC, BUT WITHIN THE CLINIC, THEY HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE HEALTH PREVENTION, SO THEY DO BLOOD PRESSURE CHECKS.

SO THESE CHECKS, THEY HAVE AN ENTREPRENEURIAL ENTREPRENEURIAL CENTER.

UM, THEY HAVE AN AREA THAT HAS, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR EDUCATION WHERE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON YOUR GED, SO IT'S MORE FOCUSED ON, AND THEY ALSO HAVE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING HERE.

SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, UM, THEY PROVIDE THAT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW, UM, HOMELESS.

SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT HEALTH, NOT NECESSARILY, UM, AGAIN FROM JUST, JUST A PHYSICAL STANDPOINT.

WELL, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WITHOUT HEALTH, RIGHT, WE CAN'T DO MUCH.

SO WHAT WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO, WE'RE USING THIS LECTURE SERIES, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FIND OUT THROUGH THE QUESTION, ANSWER, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, ALONG WITH THE COLLEGE, WHAT, WHAT ARE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE PEOPLE THINKING? WHAT ARE THE NEEDS, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC.

I MEAN, IF YOU ALSO GO BACK AND LOOK, I THINK AT THE SECOND HIGHEST RANKING, UM, DESIRE FOR THE CMI WAS RESOURCES FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN UNDER-INVESTED IN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, DURING A PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, RATES OF DISEASE ARE HIGHER.

UM, YOU

[01:55:01]

KNOW, THERE'S MORE OF A RISK, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT.

UM, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, IS SOME OF THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PANDEMIC.

SO THAT'LL BE ADDRESSED WITHIN THIS LECTURE SERIES.

SO WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT TOPICS.

UM, YOU KNOW, HEALTH EQUITY WOULD BE ONE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE HISTORICAL LEGACY.

I MEAN, AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF THAT MIGHT BE, UM, DIFFICULT DISCUSSION AND PEOPLE MIGHT FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT, BUT IT IS STATED, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON PAGE ONE OF OUR INTRODUCTION.

I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NAME IT.

AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THERE, THAT THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO KNOW THAT WE CARE AS A GOVERNMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS A LOCAL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO CARE ABOUT THIS, WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IN EVERY ASPECT, WHETHER THEY'RE A CITY INSPECTIONS PROGRAM OR, YOU KNOW, BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GETTING THE BANKS INVOLVED AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING SOME FINANCIAL LITERACY PIECE, SO, AND THAT'S LONGTERM.

UM, BUT THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF GETTING FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW TO THAT END GOAL OF DEVELOPING A SPECIFIC PLACE, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

SO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPEAKERS.

I JUST KNOW THAT, UM, WHEN I'VE DONE RESEARCH ON THAT THEY ARE, I KNOW THAT DR.

BARRETT IS A PROFESSIONAL, SHE WORKS, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE'S A MEDICAL SOCIOLOGIST WORKING AT DUKE.

SHE SPECIALIZES IN HOW MANY CANCER, ESPECIALLY, UM, AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN THAT ARE UNDERREPRESENTED IN CLINICAL TRIALS.

SO THAT'S THE EQUITY PIECE, UM, THERE, AND THEY'VE WORKED IN EQUITY, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR WHOLE, THEIR WHOLE CAREER.

SO I'M NOT, UH, DR.

BRIDGES AGAIN, IS DOING MORE OF A DISTRICT HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL TOUCH UPON THAT, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

YES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, WHO WAS GOING TO AT THIS? I WOULD OUTLINE RIGHT HERE, WHICH PRESENTER IS THIS .

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THE REASON FOR THE SUBTEXT, UH, IS, ARE WE GETTING TO LIKE WHERE I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THOSE SOMETHING? WELL, I, YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WHAT WAS PROPOSED WAS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE HISTORY, UM, OF AFRICAN AMERICANS COMING HERE AND THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF WHICH ONES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A HODGEPODGE OF THEM.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY, I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, HE KIND OF STOPPED AFTER THE LAST MEETING, SO THIS IS WHAT WAS GIVEN TO ME AS A PRELIMINARY.

SO I, I DON'T HAVE, UM, A LOT OF BACKUP INFORMATION, BUT GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

WHAT I WILL ASK, UM, AND PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE IT AT YOUR NEXT MEETING THAT YOU HAVE WITH THEM THAT LEADS TO PONTIFICATE WITH, WITH THEM.

UM, THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT, UM, THAT THE STATE BOARD LAST YEAR, WE REJECTED THE NEW SOCIAL STUDIES STANDARDS BECAUSE OF EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

UM, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT THERE IS WHAT'S CALLED A SEPTIC CURRICULUM OVER ALL THESE YEARS.

AND NORTH CAROLINA IS NOT GOING TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT BEING A PUBLIC OUTBACK.

UM, A LOT OF OUR STATE WANTS TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED IN WILMINGTON, AS WE ALL KNOW, WE WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SUBSETS OF THIS, OF NORTH CAROLINA.

SO WE CAN ENCOMPASS ALL OF THE HISTORY AND NOT WHAT HAS BEEN TAUGHT LIKE WHEN I WAS AT SCHOOL.

AND WHEN YOU START DEALING WITH, UM, HEALTH AND AWARENESS OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS, THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AFRICAN COUNTRIES THAT HAD STUFF IT HAD TO DO WITH THE DIET OF THE SLAVE, YOU KNOW, EATING THE REMNANTS OF PD AND THE REMNANTS OF THE COW.

I'M ON THE STATE BOARD EQUITY GOAL TEAM.

THAT'S WHY I JUMPED WHEN I SAW THIS, BECAUSE THAT IS TOTALLY, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT FOR THAT.

BUT WHAT THE NEW STANDARDS WILL BE IN SOCIAL STUDIES, THAT'S COMING SOON.

SO WHEN WE DO IT HERE, WHEN WE GO DOWN THIS, THIS LITTLE TRACK HERE, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO BE WITH YOU.

I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW THAT I GOT THE JOB, BUT, UM, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CORRECT IN THE MESSAGING THAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR STAKEHOLDERS RIGHT HERE LOCALLY.

I AGREE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GO BACKWARDS IN REGARDS TO WHERE THE STATE IS GOING ON.

EACH, EACH LEA WILL HAVE A EQUITY, UM, A PLAN, UH, EQUITY, UM, UM, ACTION PLAN THAT THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS IN REGARDS TO A LOT OF THE SUBTEXTS THAT YOU HAVE UP THERE.

UM, THE AID EACH LEA MUST DO IN REGARDS TO DIVERSITY, UH, IN REGARDS TO, UM, MAKING SURE YOUR, UH, UH, YOUR, YOUR FACULTY REFLECTS YOUR STUDENT BODY AND LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO I WOULD LOVE TO BE WITH YOU.

I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S LATE AT NIGHT, I'M NOT GOING TO GO IN THAT ROOM, BUT I JUST KNOW WHEN I SAW THOSE TOPICS OUT, WHOA, WE'RE GOING TO FIRST.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACCURATE IN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO.

YEAH, I AGREE.

I MEAN, SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEEM LIKE I'M CONTRARY, BUT, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO PRESENT.

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I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE, CAN I, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION SO THAT THE ONE-ON-ONE WITH MY MIND WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO DECIDE FOR THAT ONE EIGHT, THAT EIGHT, SEVEN, THANK YOU.

I CANCELED THAT SUBSECTION RIGHT THERE, IN MY OPINION, WHICH I AM NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSON.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GOALS AND COMMISSIONER WALLS JUST TALKED ABOUT, BUT ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE FIND OURSELVES SITUATED IN A GLOBAL PANDEMIC, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND WE CAN ADD TO THAT LIST SEEMS TO BE KIND OF THE MOST PERTINENT, UM, AND WHAT THIS COMMUNITY AND MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY COMMUNITIES OF COLORS SEEM TO BE KIND OF WORKING THROUGH, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HITS ON SOME PHYSICAL HEALTH STUFF, SOME MENTAL HEALTH STUFF, AND KIND OF THINGS IN BETWEEN.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE FIRST PRESENTER THAT YOU SUGGESTED WOULD BE WILLING OR INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING THOSE PARTICULAR TOPICS, OR IF YOU COULD TAKE THE FIRST FIVE AND THEN ONE SECOND, ONE SERIES ON NUTRITION, ONE SERIES ON ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION, ONE SERIES ON SUBSTANCE ABUSE, ONE SERIES ON STRESS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SERIES I'M UP TO NOW.

UM, ONE SERIES ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN THE CONTEXT OF A PANDEMIC, WHAT THEY TRAUMA INFORMED CULTURALLY SENSITIVE VANTAGE POINT.

THEN I THINK THAT THAT MAY BE ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE URGENCY OF RIGHT NOW, UM, A VIABLE OPTION TO PROCEED.

NOW, I JUST THINK IT'S HARD BECAUSE PART OF THE ISSUE, UM, IS THAT WHEN WE SAT AND WE DID THE FIRST PRESENTATION, UM, FOR, UM, THE COVID-19 COULD PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES, UM, WAS IT AUGUST DR.

FISHER? UM, AND THAT WAS KIND OF A VERY QUICK TURNAROUND, BUT WE DID IT, YOU KNOW, AFTER THAT AS A GROUP, WHEN WE GOT TOGETHER AGAIN, AND, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF DISCUSSED DISCUSSING WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? AND THIS IS VERY GOOD FEEDBACK FOR US, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMUNITY.

CAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW THAT.

RIGHT.

AND, UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE DEPENDING ON THE COLLEGE, UM, TO KIND OF GUIDE US AND, UM, AND OF COURSE, UH, YOU KNOW, MR. UM, MR. REGGIE JONES, SO, AND, AND THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT'S GENERATIONAL.

SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FEEDBACK FOR US TO HAVE TO COME EDUCATE OR HAVE A GENERATIONAL STANDPOINT BECAUSE I MEAN, DR.

BRIDGES, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS AN OLDER MAN, HE'S A HISTORIAN, I GUESS HE'S, YOU KNOW, HE'S DONE THIS BEFORE.

HE'S USED TO DOING A CERTAIN WAY, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE DOING.

UM, AND SO WHAT I GUESS, GOING BACK TO THAT, WE DIDN'T KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE FIND THE DEPENDENCE? RIGHT.

SO LOCALLY THAT'S BEEN A LITTLE TRICKY AND WE ARE KIND OF THE MORE PEOPLE THAT WE ENGAGE, THE MORE PEOPLE WE SPEAK TO, UM, DR.

FISHER IS REALLY GOOD AT FINDING, UM, FINDING PEOPLE WITHIN THE HOSPITAL THEY'VE BEEN JOINING IN AND WE ARE EAST CAROLINA.

NO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DEALING WITH, UM, NC CENTRAL.

RIGHT.

UM, AND, BUT I MEAN, I DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

OF COURSE THEY'RE LEADING THE REGION IN PROVIDING HEALTH SOLUTIONS TO, WELL, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY UNIVERSITY.

YES.

THE MED SCHOOL OR THROUGH ANY OF THEIR SCHOOLS OF SOCIAL WORK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT ALL THOSE.

MAYBE WE CAN MAKE SOME CONNECTION IT TO GET SOME SPEAKERS YOU WERE JUST ASKING ABOUT.

RIGHT.

AND THEY ACTUALLY, UM, THEY WERE PART OF THE NORTHBOUND AND I WAS 2030, WHICH IS WHERE WE GOT OUR INITIAL INFORMATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD INVOLVEMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A PRESENCE WITHIN THAT, THAT COMMUNITY.

UM, SO YEAH, THESE OLD, VERY GOOD IDEAS AND GOOD FEEDBACK, BUT SO THAT'S HOW WE WERE STRUGGLING WITH.

SO WHEN THIS CAME ALONG, WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD, UM, A GOOD WAY TO START.

SO WE DO HAVE ONE NURSE PRACTITIONER NAME IS ALYSSA STONER.

SHE'S A LOVELY LADY THAT DR.

FISHER AND I HAVE MET WITH, AND AS WELL AS JEFF HAD A ZOOM MEETING LAST WEEK.

AND SO IN MAY, SHE WILL BE DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE'S A SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST.

SHE DOES PLANT BASED SITE.

AND SO SHE WILL START, UM, INMATE DOING COOKING DEMONSTRATIONS ALONG WITH A NEW BROTHER.

AND I WENT OVER TO THE HOSPITAL ON THE CANCER CENTER.

WE USE THE KITCHEN AT THE CANCER CENTER, UM, YESTERDAY AND LOOKED AT THAT SO SHE CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COMING AS WELL AS AN ASIDE TO THIS.

YES.

SO JUST THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT WE SEE HERE IN SUBSECTION SEVEN, UM, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, MAYBE THERE'S A CONSENSUAL PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COASTAL WOMEN'S SHELTER.

THEY MAY HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT, UM, OR SPECIALISTS OR COUNSELORS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE A GOOD INSIGHT ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SO THEY CAN GET YOU THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCAL, THEY MAY BE MORE IN TUNE WITH WHAT VIOLENCE LOOKS LIKE IN THIS AREA, RIGHT.

OFFLINE.

I THINK I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE A COUPLE OF DAYS OF SOME, UM, LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS THAT ARE FROM THE NEWBURGH AREA.

UM, SEVERAL

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OF WHICH ARE AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN WHO ARE HOMEGROWN AND MAY BE ABLE TO OFFER SOME INSIGHT ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON THIS LIST.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THE CONTACTS THAT I HAVE WITH PLEASE DO THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE, ESPECIALLY WITH MENTAL ILLNESS, UM, THAT COMPONENT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE STRUGGLING WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE RELATABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

LET ME GET YOU COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND HERE, BUT YOU DID.

OKAY.

AND THEN, AND I'LL SAY, UH, ONE SUGGESTION POWERHOUSE, BRING IT DOWN, NOT WITH THE HEALTH PART, BUT JUST WITH THE EQUITY PART THAT YOU HAD IN THE FIRST PART, THEY GET THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? JAMES FORD IS A MONTH STATE BOARD MEMBER AND, UM, THE, UH, LEADER OF THE CENTER FOR RACIAL EQUITY, IT'S CALLED CRE ROLLING OUT ALL THESE MONTHS.

JUST IT.

YEAH.

DOES HE DO PUBLIC SPEAKING? OH, OKAY.

YES.

AND HE WILL, HE HAS ALL THE GRANTS, ALL THEY GOT TO SAY YEAH, YEAH.

TO THE STATE.

YOU WOULD GO UP TO THAT DESKTOP.

WHAT'S HIS LAST NAME? JAMES .

ALL RIGHT.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO HIM.

THANK YOU.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE RESTRUCTURING THIS PROPOSAL THAT WAS MADE HERE.

OKAY.

I MEAN, I CONCUR WITH THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TRACK WE WERE TAKING.

YES.

UH, AND THEN THE OTHER ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD AT THAT PRESENTATION, HOW ARE WE GOING TO, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN HERE WAS IT WAS ALL GOING TO BE VIRTUAL.

THAT'S WHERE WE WERE.

AND SO PARTICIPATION, UH, FOR THE EFFORT.

UH, I HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS HOW ARE WE GOING TO REACH ENOUGH PEOPLE FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE WANT TO WITH THAT MEDIUM IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? WELL, I MEAN, WHAT, HOW DID WE DO LAST TIME? THE FIRST ONE DONE, I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED.

DON'T RECALL.

IT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD, I THOUGHT IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD FIRST EFFORT AS FAR AS HAVING, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE OMEGA CENTER.

SO, UH UM, WE ALSO HAD FIRST MICHIGAN, WE HAD, YEAH, THEY HAD ABOUT 26 PEOPLE, I THINK, IN THERE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UH, IT WASN'T MANY AT OMEGA, BUT IT WAS THERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD IT SET UP.

UM, AND IT WAS, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIMES WITH THE HURRICANE.

IT WAS A LESSON, RIGHT.

I HAD ABOUT THREE DAYS TO REALLY PUSH IT.

ONE OF OUR CORE, THE CORE OF OUR COMMITTEE IS, UM, OUR COLLABORATION IS, UH, PASTOR HOLMES.

HE WAS VERY HELPFUL.

AND HE HAD BEEN, UM, IN THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE HAVING, DEVELOPING A NETWORK OF, BECAUSE OF PROBATE OF 30 OTHER CHURCHES.

SO WE WERE THINKING THAT WE COULD USE IT TO TEACH IF WE DO SOME HOMESTEADING WHERE WE WOULD HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SAFELY HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO DO LIKE A, LIKE A LIVE WATCH PARTY.

UM, AND THEN ALSO DO IT VIA SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I THINK IT WAS WEBEX OR WEBCAM OR I'M EMBARRASSING MYSELF.

I MEAN, UM, I FORGET EXACTLY HOW WE WERE GOING TO DO IT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE IT DONE VIRTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THE SPEAKER WOULD BE IN ONCE ONE PART, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE, THE, UM, THE NONPROFIT THAT WILL BE HELPING US WITH THE COLLEGE.

UM, IT WOULD BE THE ONE TO FACILITATE THE QUESTION AND ANSWER AT THE END.

UM, AND I MEAN, ON, FROM OUR END, WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE CITY WITH COLLEEN, LIKE WE DID LAST TIME.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE LATE.

YEAH.

IT WAS EXTREMELY, UM, IT'S NOT SO MUCH AS MAKING SURE EVERYTHING WORKS RIGHT.

PUTTING THE PEOPLE AND GETTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

ISN'T ALL THAT HARD.

AND THEN IT GOES AND MAKING SURE IT WORKS, THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE AN ASSISTANT THAT HELPS WITH THAT AS WELL, BUT SOME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS AND THAT'S WHAT WAS APPEALING TO US BECAUSE WE HAVE, CAN I BRING UP A ONE POINT, I, AS A COMMISSIONERS IS FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUAL PRESENTATIONS, BUT IF YOU READ THE BOTTOM OF THE PROGRAM ON THE PRESENTATION, IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, DR.

LIBBY STONE AND THE, UH, NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY HIRING THEM TO CONSTRUCT THE PRESENTATION AND ALSO TO COLLECT DATA.

SO I WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE STAND ABOUT

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BEING ABLE TO HIRE THOSE PEOPLE.

THEY HELP US OUT IN STRUCTURING THIS, THIS, UH, ASPECT OF THE HEALTH PRESENTATION AND CCU CAN STRUCTURE THE PROGRAM CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION DIRECTIVES OF THIS COMMISSION THAT I THINK THAT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PURSUE.

SO YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN ANY OF THESE SPEAKERS THEN THAT WERE PROPOSED.

SO LET'S, LET'S DO THIS A LITTLE ALL THE WAY.

SO, UM, WHAT COMMITTEE IS ARE ASKING FOR IS FOR ALL, WITHOUT THE MODELS AND SO FORTH, THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN FIELDING, UH, WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROGRAM AS IT, AS IT SAYS.

SO WE GOT, UM, AND I WON'T PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT, UM, IT RESTRUCTURING THE PRO UH, PROGRAM.

IT'D BE, UM, APPROVING THE BUNNY AT THAT TIME.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO IT WAS, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM WITH THE, IN MOUTH INVOLVED.

I MEAN, I GOING TO BE JUDICIOUS WITH FUNDS, BUT WE SEE ONE LECTURE OUTLINE AND WE JUST COMPLETELY, TOTALLY SHREDDED THAT ONE.

AND WE HAD NO CLUE WHAT THE OTHER REMAINING FOUR.

SO THAT, THAT KIND OF WORRIES ME JUST A BIT BECAUSE I MEAN, WE WANT TO BE INTENTIONAL IN OUR MESSAGING AND WHAT'S GOING ON.

WHAT MAKES US, WE'LL GIVE IT UP THAT LEVEL OF CONTROL, BUT CENTRAL IS A GREAT RESOURCE AND I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH HIM, BUT TO THE POINT THAT WE MADE EARLIER, IT NEEDS TO BE CATERED TO WHAT WE NEED MORE SO THAN WHAT CAN QUICKLY BE UNPACK OUT OF THE CAMPS.

AND I THINK BASED ON COMMISSIONER CHO'S RESPONSES TO SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS OF POSITION, OR IT SEEMS AS THOUGH, UH, COMMISSIONER TOLD GREG THAT THE COMMITTEE IS WILLING TO, TO EXPLORE SOME OPTIONS AND MAYBE GIVE GREATER CONTEXT BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION, UM, AND TO TRY TO TERMINATE NCCA AND ASSISTANCE IN TARGETING THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AND TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

CORRECT.

ACCURATE.

YES.

YES.

WOULD I KIND OF, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO ALSO COME BACK? AND I, AND I AGREE, BUT TO COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION ON THE SPEAKERS AS WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LISTED HERE, SO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE.

AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, WHAT I'M HEARING IS NOT WHO THE SPEAKERS ARE, IT'S THE CONTENT, THE CONTENT IT'S ABOUT HEALTH EQUITY.

THAT'S A, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER WALLACE WAS SAYING IS THAT, OR, AND, AND COMMISSIONER, UM, MOSTLY WAS SAYING, IS THAT THAT NUMBER SEVEN SUBSETS SEEMS TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

SO IF MAYBE YOU BREAK THAT DOWN INTO FIVE LECTURES OR SIX LECTURES OR WHATEVER, FOCUSED ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, RATHER THAN ONE THROUGH FIVE OR ONE THROUGH SIX, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT THAT'S TO US OR TO THE GROUP HERE, MORE IMPACTFUL IN WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE AND BREAK THOSE OUT.

MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THEY WERE IN THERE, FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT SEVEN UNDER SEVEN.

YEAH.

I FORGOT HOW MANY SUBSETS THERE WERE, BUT TAKE THOSE MAYBE A COUPLE OF, COULD BE COMBINED AND, AND APPLY THE FUNDING TO ADDRESS IN THOSE BULLET POINTS.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS HEARING NOW.

THAT'S WHAT I ATTEMPTED TO CONVEY.

AND IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO ATTACK THE TECHNIQUE, NOT BE THE RIGHT ONE, BUT DISCUSS THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT TOPICS FROM A HEALTH EQUITY PERSPECTIVE.

UM, BUT NOT HAVING ONE WHOLE LECTURE JUST ON THE EQUITY PORTION OR ELECTRICAL ON THE EQUITY PORTION.

RIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT THEY WERE ALL GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.

UM, AGAIN, I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT INFORMATION, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND IN PART, IF WE CAN GO BACK, OH, I'M SORRY.

I CAN LOOK AT MY NOTES, BUT GO BACK TO THE END.

THE LAST ONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

DR.

OKAY.

SO WE DO, OH, COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I'M SORRY.

.

AND SO I GUESS, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER, UM, MOSTLY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING IN CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY, UM, THE, I GUESS THERE WERE TWO, TWO WENT TO REVISE, UM, PASS, LIKE, I MEAN, THOSE WOULD BE THE THINGS THAT DR.

SMITH WOULD HAVE DONE.

HE WOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, APPLES, AND BECAUSE OF HIS BACKGROUND AS A PSYCHOLOGIST.

SO WE CAN TELL THEM, I GAVE

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THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, LOOKS AT THESE VARIOUS DIFFERENT POSSIBLE PRESENTERS AND CHOOSES TO GO WITH DR.

WHOMEVER.

YOU MENTIONED, I TAKE NO ISSUE WITH THAT.

UM, BUT I THINK THE COMMISSION, THE CONSENSUS THAT I'M GARNERING IS NO MATTER WHO THE PRESENTER IS THAT THEY FOCUS THEIR CONTENT, UM, AS DIRECTED KIND OF, AS THE BOARD HAS KIND OF EXPANDED, I THINK THAT HAVING A LOCAL PRESENTER WITH ROOTS IN THIS AREA THAT HAS THE SAME QUALIFICATIONS, IT MIGHT BE A STRONGER MESSAGE BECAUSE THEN THEY AUTOMATICALLY BECOME A RESOURCE.

IF AN ISSUE COMES UP RATHER THAN CAUSE NOBODY'S GONNA CALL IT, CALL THAT DOCTOR UP AT THE COLLEGE, FIND OUT WHAT TO DO AS THIS PERSONAL OPINION.

YEAH.

UM, TODAY WE START, I CAN GIVE YOU SOMEONE VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD ON THE ADDICTION FRONT THAT'S LOCAL.

THAT WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO JUMP INTO THAT.

AND I ACTUALLY, YEAH, I KNOW SOMEONE 12.

YEAH.

AND, UM, AND JUST TO KIND OF GO BIG, BIG ON THINGS HERE.

UM, ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FOCUS BE MORE ON THESE TYPES OF THINGS, BE FROM A POVERTY STANDPOINT THAN NECESSARILY BUILT ON RACIAL WISE.

UM, AND FROM A HOUSING AUTHORITY PERSPECTIVE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE AN EVER INCREASING PRESENTER OF OUR, THAT DOES NOT FALL INTO A CERTAIN SPECIFIC RACIAL CATEGORY.

RIGHT.

AND NUMEROUS POPULATIONS SPECIFICALLY.

I MEAN, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS LATINO, THE BURMESE, I MEAN IT'S, AND THEN PLENTY OF CAUCASIANS AS WELL.

SO IT'S, IT'S PURELY NOT AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN THING.

THIS IS MY PERSPECTIVE.

I THINK THAT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT I THINK THEY WERE LOOKING AT.

IT'S JUST OUR TARGET AREA.

SO OUR TARGET AREA FOR THAT COMMISSION IS MOSTLY, I WOULD SAY, PREVALENT TO THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN RACE, EVEN THOUGH I, I SEE THAT WE HAVE, DO HAVE SOME TINA IN OUR REDEVELOPMENT AREA, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.

THE ISSUES COMBINATION WITH THINGS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S GOOD DIRECTION.

OCCUPATION.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING.

SO, UM, BALL, UM, UH, FISHER ON THE MEDICAL RECORD DEPARTMENT, I'VE BEEN A PHYSICIAN AT CAROLINA FOR YEARS AND HAVE SEEN THE DOWNSTREAM EFFECTS OF, UH, SOCIAL ACTIVITIES OVER MY CAREER.

THIS STUFF MATTERS A LOT.

AND, UM, I GUESS THE STEWARD OVER THE PUBLIC HEALTH, WHICH ABSOLUTELY INCLUDES, UH, BLACK FOLKS, WHITE FOLKS, BLACK FOLKS, AND A REALLY GROWING IMMIGRANT POPULATION HERE.

UM, AND ABSOLUTELY A COMMON FACTOR IS POVERTY.

UM, THE MESSAGE THAT I WANT TO GET OUT THERE IS THAT EVERY LIFE IS VALUABLE.

EVERYTHING THAT WE PUT INTO OUR BODIES, THE MATERIAL WE TAKE IN WHETHER WE MOVE OR NOT THE STRESS THAT WE'RE UNDER, IT ALL MATTERS.

IT IMPACTS OUR HEALTH.

AND, UM, YOU GUYS ARE DOING INCREDIBLE JOB AND YOU HAD PHYSICAL NEEDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN DISTRESS, AND THAT'S INCREDIBLE.

I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER I CAN DO FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SIDE TO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DO, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE LINE, LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE CLINIC SPACE.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO SET UP A SPACE WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF CONTINUING THE SAME MODEL OF TREATING DIABETES AND HYPERTENSION.

IF WE DO SOME THINGS TO TRY TO PREVENT SOME OF THOSE THINGS, ABSOLUTELY TREAT THE ILLNESSES, BUT ALSO TRY TO MEASURES TO PREVENT HAPPENING.

THE FOLKS ARE LOVED AND CARED FOR.

I THINK THAT'S VERY INFORMED.

MARIA HAS BEEN DOING INCREDIBLE WORK ON THIS.

IT'S, IT'S A STRUGGLE FOR ME TO TRY TO FIGURE

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OUT HOW TO COME UP WITH A MESSAGE IN A SENSITIVE WAY THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE I'M GOING IN AND PEOPLE AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S COMING FROM A PLACE OF CARE.

UM, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS.

THESE CONDITIONS FOR FOLKS HAPPEN IN A, IN A HISTORICAL CONTEXT AND THAT CAN'T BE IN THE DISCUSSION.

NOT THAT WE CAN FIX THAT, BUT WE DO.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S JUST THE ONLY PROBLEM YOU, OUR WORD COMMISSIONER CIRCLE.

I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS IS STUFF THAT, UM, IS DIFFICULT TO TALK ABOUT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S AFTER FISHER SAID, I MEAN, MY INTENT IS NOT TO OFFEND ANYBODY, BUT I FEEL THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

SO IN A VERY NUANCED, COMPASSIONATE, SENSITIVE WAY, I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I THINK THE WORK WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, AGAIN, LOOKING AND TAKING A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM THAT GOT, YOU KNOW, THE REDEVELOPMENT TO WHERE IT IS, RIGHT.

THE BLIGHT, UM, EVEN BEING UNINVESTED ON AND TAKING A SYSTEMIC APPROACH TO ADDRESSING IT.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE MIND, BODY SPIRIT, THAT'S WHAT WE FEEL.

AND JOHN DEERE, I KNOW YOU'RE LISTENING.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? UH, YES.

I'M, UH, I DON'T, I, I JUST, I THINK, UM, WHAT DR.

FISHER AND MS. COMMISSIONER CHOKES SAID IN THE LAST TWO MINUTES IS THE HEART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND, UM, UM, HOW CAN WE GET THAT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND HOW WE PRESENT THAT IN A POSITIVE WAY POSSIBLE LIGHT FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS THE CRUX OF IT.

I THINK IT'S MORE THAN JUST A LECTURE SERIES, BUT IT'S HOW WE APPROACH THE COMMUNITY AND HOW FROM THAT PROCESS, WE ARE ABLE TO COLLECT SOME DATA AND TO MOVE FORWARD IN A POSITIVE LIGHT.

SO IT IT'S IMPORTANT.

IT'S SO TOPICS ARE THEY IMPORTANT PART TO ME IS HOW WE FROM A COMEDIAN.

YEAH.

CAN I JUST ASK A FAVOR OF, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION? SO, UM, COMMISSIONER WALLACE AND, UM, AND COMMISSIONER, UM, MOSLEY BULLET, MOSTLY MULLIGAN, I'M SORRY.

UM, SOME TIRED MYSELF AND I HAVE TO GO THE BATHROOM SO BAD TO SAY THAT ON TAPE, BUT, UM, YEAH, IF WE COULD MAYBE SET UP A ZOOM, THE THREE OF US WITH JEFF AND MAYBE JOHN, THE FIVE OF US I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE INPUT TO KIND OF SOLIDIFY BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WERE STRUGGLING WITH ARE THE RESOURCES.

AND THAT'S WHY WE MADE THIS ROUTE.

SO IF I CAN HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT MOVING FORWARD, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WE ARE MOM TO CALM? WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS WE ARE JUST TABLING.

WE'RE GOING TO SIDESTEP AND REGROUP, BUT WE HAVE GOOD DIRECTION AND WE'LL FILL IN THE BLANKS.

OKAY.

I'VE GOT TO SPEAK TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, FOR COMING.

HOW WAS THAT TO GET THE DEPARTMENT OR YESTERDAY FOR THE, UH, HOSPICE, UH, MEETING AND LOOKING VERY GOOD.

THEY PAY CHICKEN SACK GRAPES, BUT THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU AGAIN.

DO WE HAVE ANY? YES.

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YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, CAN I GET A MOTION GLOBAL MEANING ARE WE, ARE WE FOR HOSTS BEFORE CHRISTMAS? DECEMBER THE GOOD DAY.

OKAY.

WE WILL HAVE A MEETING IN DECEMBER THEN.

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OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.