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SINCE I'M SO USED TO DOING THE ROLL CALL WITH THE VICE CHAIRMAN, I'LL DO IT AGAIN[1. 6:00pm: Welcome and roll call]
TO SEE MR. JOE.MR. WALKER, MR. WALLACE, UH, IN ROUTE, UH, COMMISSIONER YOUNG.
SO WE HAVE A QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.
SO WE'VE BEEN COMMENCED WITH BUSINESS.
WANT TO START THE MEETING SO THAT THERESA WILL BE PROUD OF ME WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
SO WE'LL START WITH, WE TRIED TO GET ANOTHER LITTLE AND ALSO WE CAN SAY
I WILL CAUSE I NEVER GET TO DO THE FIRST PAST PRESENT FUTURE EQUAL TIME.
LISTEN TO BUILD CONSENSUS, SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION.
SAY FOCUS CAN BE ACTION ORIENTED.
I BELIEVE I KNOW THAT LAST ONE.
[3. Approval of Minutes]
OF BEADING MEETING MINUTES BEFORE US THIS EVENING, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME FOR A FEDERAL ACTION.THE FIRST ONE IS THE JUNE 9TH MEETING.
HAS ANYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER, FIND ANY CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES THAT ARE NEEDED? I READ THEM AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON BOARD AND I MOVED TO THE BEACH EXCEPT JUNE.
MOTION TO ACCEPT THE JUNE SUBMITTED.
AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THE NEXT SET OF MINUTES ARE THE AUGUST 11TH MEETING MINUTES.
ANY COMMENTS CORRECTIONS NEEDED TO THE SETTLEMENTS CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
I MEAN, I WAS NOT HERE, BUT I WASN'T HERE THAT, UM, I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 11TH MINUTES.
SECOND FOR MARIA ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED FIVE BY SAYING AYE.
WANT TO GET THE MINUTES OUT OF THE WAY? GOTCHA.
JUST DON'T TRY AND WE'LL ROLL OVER NOW TO PUBLIC
[2. Public Comment]
COMMENTS, ANYONE IN THEIR AUDIENCE TO MAKE THE COMMENT, MIKE, I THINK WE KNOW THE RULE FOUR MINUTES.WELL, THERESA IS NOT HERE, SO I COULDN'T GET IT RIGHT.
THERE'S NOT THIS BIG BEING RECORDED.
SHE'LL LOOK AND SAY YOU DO IT.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU JUST TOOK 30 OF MY SECOND KIND OF WEIGHT.
UM, LAST WEEK AND LAST WEEK, LAST MONTH WE HAD ANTHONY THAT COMES TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.
UM, SHE SHARED THAT I THINK WE HAD SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
SO SHE SHARED THE DOCUMENTS WITH, WITH THE RISA AND GENTLEMEN, I BELIEVE, AND THEY WERE RESTED.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THEM.
UH, SO WHAT I AM HERE, MY COMMENTS TONIGHT ARE TO ASK THE COMMISSION, IF YOU ARE NOT CLEAR ON ANY OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S IN THAT, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US, LET US KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SO THAT WE CAN, CAN CLARIFY THEM.
BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER THE COMMISSION DOES TO ACTUALLY ADOPT THAT AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE MOVING FORWARD.
SO THAT'S MY, MY ASS TO THE COMMISSION.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE IN, IN THE ORDER OF THE WAY THINGS GO.
BUT I WOULD LIKE AT LEAST SOME DIALOGUE ON, ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT
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THAT NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION PROGRAM THAT WE PROPOSED MAKES SENSE.AND IF IT DOESN'T LET US KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO CHANGE IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE WANT THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
MY FIRST, THE SECOND IS WE ARE WORKING IN THE, IN THE FOCUS COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.
UM, AS THE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FIVE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IN THE COMING MONTHS.
THREE OF THEM WERE STORM-RELATED TOWARD THEM.
ARE, ARE AGING IN PREY IN PLACE.
IT'S GONNA TAKE AN INVESTMENT OF ABOUT $140,000 FOR US TO BRING THESE, THESE PROPERTIES BACK TO A GOOD FORM AND, AND HELP THE FOLKS ACHIEVE LIVING INTO SOMETHING DECENT AND AFFORDABLE AGAIN.
SO MY OTHER ASK FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS THAT YOU COMMIT FUNDING TO THESE, THESE FIVE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AT AN APPROPRIATE LEVEL.
HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT SO THAT WE CAN SAY THAT, THAT WE'RE ALL PUTTING SKIN IN THE GAME AS WE TRY AND MEET, DEVELOP, UH, OUR FOCUS AREA.
SO THAT'S MY SECOND MASS THERE ASK IS I KNOW I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE IN A MINUTE IS THAT WE ARE, WE ARE PULLING TOGETHER ALL OF THE OTHER FOLKS THAT, THAT ARE, THAT HAVE, UM, A STAKE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, SHELTER AND SHELTER IS GOING TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING, WHETHER IT'S HOME OWNERSHIP, RENTAL, HOMELESSNESS, TRANSITION, WHATEVER IT IS SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO START NOW TO ACTUALLY START TO, TO MAKE AN IMPACT IN THAT COMMUNITY.
AND THE FOURTH THING IS WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND ENGAGE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN EDUCATION.
UM, WHETHER THAT BE, THEY SAID LANDLORD TENANT PRE AND POST PURCHASE EDUCATION, FINANCIAL, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, UM, WORKING WITH THE NORTH CAROLINA HOUSING COALITION, UH, THINK, UM, SOME OF YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW TARA, BAILEY'S ACTUALLY CONNECTED WITH THEM.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO THEM TO WORK WITH US AND THE COMMUNITY TO BRING THAT EDUCATION.
CAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF HELPING US REDEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING.
I JUST, I WANT TO PUSH IT LIKE ON THOSE REHAB PROJECTS, YOU SAID TWO WERE STORM-RELATED IN THREE WORD DETERIORATED.
IT'S THE OTHER WAY BRAINSTORM.
LIKE, SO ARE THE THREE STORM RELATED? ARE THEY PRIOR HABITAT HOUSES OR SO NONE OF THE FIVE HABITAT HOUSES, JUST ONES THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED IN THE COMMUNITY OR THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO FIND ANY OTHER RESOURCES.
DID YOU CALL IT OUT NOW? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE ARE FOCUSED ON BUILDING NEW HOMES OVERALL.
SO WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO REPAIR HOMES OR HELPFUL AGED PLACE.
WE WERE WORKING WITH COASTAL COMMUNITY ACTION, WE'LL WORK WITH ANY, AND THEY'RE CREDITING, THAT'LL WORK WITH US TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE OUR MISSION IS TO BUILD HOMES, COMMUNITY, AND HOPE.
WE, WE NEED TO WORK WITH EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO IF WE SAID WE'RE WORKING ON A HOME IS NOT NECESSARILY A AT-HOME THAT HABITAT BUILT.
IT IS A HOME THAT SOMEONE HAS A NEED AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT.
I THINK WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION PREVIOUSLY.
FOR THE RECORD, THERESA, IF YOU SEE THIS, I AM NOT GOING OVER FOUR MINUTES.
UH, YOU ONLY WORK ON HOME OWNERS.
DID YOU MENTION THAT TOTAL COST TO FIVE PROJECTS AND WHAT YOU EXPECT? YEAH.
OUR, OUR ESTIMATE NOW IS THAT THOSE FIVE HOMES AND IT VARIES FROM 40,000, I THINK DOWN TO 60, BUT THE TOTAL IS ABOUT 40,000.
SO WE INVEST LIKE 10,000 AND GRABBING THE NUMBER OUT OF THERE.
UM, INTO THOSE FIVE HOMES FROM THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, YOU BASICALLY ARE A FULL PARTNER IN ACTUALLY BRINGING THOSE HOMES, THOSE HOMES BACK, AND THE TOTAL COST IS 40 OR ONE HOUSE FOR NO IT'S THE TOTAL, THE FIVE HOMES.
OUR ESTIMATE IS ABOUT 140,100, RIGHT? THE, THE RANGES OF WHAT THE REPAIRS WOULD COST FOR EACH OF THEM GO FROM ABOUT
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16, UP TO 40, CORRECT FOR FIVE HOMES.AND THAT IS NOT ALL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STARTING WITH.
THERE'S MANY OTHERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING OVER THE YEARS TO COME.
BUT THOSE FIVE WE KNOW ARE ALREADY SET.
WE GOT ESTIMATES AND WE'RE READY TO GO.
THERE WAS MANY OTHERS AFTER THAT.
UH, I GUESS MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FIREARM OR ATTORNEY, BUT ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF OUR FUNDS FOR PRIVATELY OWNED RESIDENTS? GIVING MONEY TO A HOUSE HAS BEEN, THAT IS A RESIDENCE THAT'S OWNED BY SOMEONE AFTER OUR PARTICIPATION IS STILL ON BY THE SAME PERSON.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS PLACED UPON THE FUNDS BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN AND A GENERALLY SPEAKING, THERE IS A PROCESS FOR MUNICIPALITIES OR SUBSYS AND MUNICIPALITIES TO GIVE FUNDS TO PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS THERE.
UM, BUT GENERALLY IF A SUBSET OF A MUNICIPALITY WANTED TO GIVE FUNDS TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS A PUBLIC PURPOSE, UM, THAT CAN, THAT CAN BE DONE.
I JUST RECENTLY I RAISED A QUESTION I'M PAUSED TO ABOUT THAT KIND OF THING, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET US ALL IMPOSED AND THEN HIT A BARRIER THAT WE CAN'T OVERCOME.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS, JUST A FOLLOW UP ON MR. WILLIAMS AND, UH, WORKING WITH, UM, THIS ENTREPRENEUR, UH, COUPLE OF THEIR HOUSES.
UM, AS WE WALKED THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WAS, UH, TWO SENIOR CITIZENS THAT, UH, WE STOPPED BY THE HOUSE TO TALK HIM AND THEY HAD BUCKETS IN THE HOUSE.
AND, UM, AND SO WE SAW THE NEED AND WE RELATED, UH, TO, UH, MR. WILLIAMS AND MS. ANTOINETTE.
UM, SO, UH, JUST TO SHINE A LIGHT THAT THESE ARE SENIOR CITIZENS, UM, NO WAY TO PAY FOR THE REPAIRS.
UH, AND THEN, UH, IT DESPERATELY, UM, NO FAMILY TO HELP.
UM, SO ANY WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT KENNEDY HEALTH, UH, WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATIVE.
JEFF, CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT CDBG FUNDS? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DESIGNATED CDBG FUNDS FOR THIS EXACT PURPOSE, BUT I KNOW THEY HAVE TO MEET AN INCOME LEVEL THOUGH, BUT WE STILL HAVE FUNDS LIKE THAT.
SO WE CREATED THE PROGRAM FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS, UM, TO GET THE NUMBER WE ALLOCATED.
WE ENDED UP SPENDING ALL TOGETHER.
IT WAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
UM, JUST TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE THROUGH OUR CDBG PROGRAM, WE SPEND OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN DUFFIELD SO FAR.
UM, SO THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS WE WERE REALLY SUCCESSFUL IN FINDING PEOPLE AND SPENDING THE MONEY THAT WELL DRIED UP.
AND WE ENDED UP HAVING A BACKLOG OF FUNDS THAT WE, UH, THAT WE DIDN'T USE RIGHT AWAY.
WE HAVE REALLOCATED THOSE FUNDS TO THE STORM WATER PROJECTS.
WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WHEN WE GET PEOPLE CALLING US ABOUT THE REHAB PROGRAM, WE'RE PRE-VETTING THEM BECAUSE IT TURNED OUT AS THE PROGRAM, WHEN YOU'RE GONE, WE WERE GETTING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AND WE'D SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS GETTING THEM PRO YOU KNOW, GETTING ALL THE DATA AND ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED FROM THEM TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY.
AND WE WERE FINDING OUT THEY DIDN'T OWN THE PROPERTY DATA.
THEY WEREN'T ALL, THEY DIDN'T MEET THE INCOME REQUIREMENTS.
SO WE WERE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AND NOT BEING ABLE TO SPEND THE MONEY.
SO WE CEASED THE PROGRAM, UM, AS FAR AS ALLOCATING FUNDS TO IT IN OUR YEARLY BUDGET, WHAT WE DO NOW IS WE GET THE NAME BEFOREHAND AND WE DO ALL THE PRE-READING BEFOREHAND.
SO THEN AS THE BUDGET, AS THE NEXT YEAR, BUDGET ROLLS AROUND, WILL WE KNOW IF SOMEONE'S PRE-QUALIFIED AND WE KNOW WHAT THE PRICE IS.
WE'LL THEN WE CAN BUDGET THAT IN THE NEXT YEAR.
SO WE'RE A STEP BEHIND INSTEAD OF A STEP AHEAD.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I KNOW, TO ME, IN MY, WITH MY ULTIMATE ADD ON, AND MAYBE EVEN AS REDEVELOPMENT IS WHEN YOU IDENTIFY PEOPLE LIKE THAT, ARE THEY THE HOMEOWNERS? IF THEY ARE NOT THE HOMEOWNERS WHO IS, AND WHY ARE THEY NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY? AND THAT'S SOME OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO KIND OF ADDRESS LIKE THAT.
I, THAT WAS MY QUESTION THAT DAY, WHERE WE ADDRESSED THE HOMEOWNER AND INCOME.
WELL THAT, THAT INFORMATION COULD BE RELATED TO JEFF.
THAT'LL HELP US IN DOING WHAT WE DO, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN ACCESS CDBG FUNDS, WHICH ARE GOVERNMENT FUNDS THAT ARE THERE, THIS SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE WHO QUALIFY EITHER BY INCOME OR HOME OWNERSHIP, THEN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FUNDS.
SIT THERE, GOING ON YOU STAND.
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WE CERTAINLY WANT TO USE IT IF WE CAN.SO CAN WE DO THAT PROCESS ALREADY? SO WITHIN OUR PROCESS, THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION.
THEY SUBMIT SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION BECAUSE DON'T FORGET A PIECE OF ART PROGRAM HAS TO DO WITH, THEY HAVE TO INVEST THEIR TIME AND SOME OF THEIR MONEY TOO, ON A SLIDING SCALE FEE BASED UPON WHERE THEIR INCOME FALLS.
SO WHEN THEY COME TO US, WE KNOW WHETHER THEY OWN THE HOME OR NOT.
IF THEY DON'T OWN IT, THEY DON'T QUALIFY.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE AIR ISSUES WITH, FOR THE DEPUTY FIELD AREAS.
AND SO WE ADDRESS THAT THROUGH A POWER OF ATTORNEY, THEN RELATE WHAT WITH THE PHONE TO ALLOW US TO ENTER INTO THAT CONTRACT WITH THOSE HEIRS, WOULD THAT PERSON HAPPENED LIKE TIME, LIKE SUNDAY, THAT NEEDS TO BE COMMUNICATED THEN THE JASPER TO A CENTRAL POOL SO THAT WE CAN FIND THOSE FUNDS TO QUALIFY.
WE'VE GOT A LIST OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT ABILITY AT A CERTAIN INCOME LEVEL.
THEN YOU CAN AT LEAST KEEP THAT TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AN INFORMATION IS GOOD, BUT IF WE'VE GOT ACCESS TO FUNDS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO PUTTING THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MIKE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT PARTNERSHIP.
SO WE CAN FILL ALL THESE POCKETS, THESE EMPTY POCKETS, UM, THROUGH THE THING NEXT, UM, I IDENTIFIED SOME PEOPLE THAT OWN THEIR HOMES THAT NEED A SERVICE TO THEIR HOMES THAT WOULD NEED SOME FUNDS.
SO WHAT NUMBER DO I CALL TO TRY TO GET THEM CONTACT ASIA? SHE'S IN CHARGE OF THE BJ.
AND SOMETIMES THOUGH THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEIR INCOME LEVEL TOO.
SO YEAH, I CAN SHOW YOU FOUR AND IT KIND OF CHANGES EACH YEAR.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? OKAY.
[4. Possible Demolition of Structure on 203 Jones Street: Background]
POSSIBLE KIND OF DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE ON 2003 JONES STREET, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT.BACK IN JULY, WE CLOSED ON THAT PROPERTY.
2 0 3 AND 2 0 7 JONES STREET, RIGHT? 2 0 3 HAS A STRUCTURE ON IT.
UM, IT'S A, IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOUSE.
UM, THE HOUSING GROUP WALKED THROUGH IT.
WE LOOKED THROUGH IT, UM, REHABBING.
IT IS, UH, IS AN EXPENSIVE TASK FOR THE RETURN AND UNITS THAT WE COULD GET OUT OF THAT, OUT OF THAT PROPERTY.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE GROWING IT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A LIABILITY SITTING THERE.
WE HAVE A, A DILAPIDATED HOUSE, UM, IN OUR PORTFOLIO AND THE DISCUSSION HERE TONIGHT IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH IT.
UM, SO WE CAN DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE.
THE LOT THEMSELVES WOULD YIELD FOUR OR FIVE INDIVIDUAL WATTS.
IF THERE WERE SUBDIVIDED, WHICH WOULD MAKE FOUR OR FIVE ADDITIONAL UNITS OF NEW HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER WE WANT TO, UM, KIND OF WEATHERIZE IT, LET IT SIT, UM, OR DEMOLISH IT, MAINTAIN AN EMPTY LOT UNTIL WE HAVE, UH, UNTIL WE CAN BUILD SOMETHING ON IT.
SO THAT'S THE GIST OF THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE LOT OF QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE NEED TO CONTEMPLATE, WHETHER IT'S TODAY, NEXT MEETING, I UNDERSTAND, UM, KEPT, I KNOW WOULD LIKE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE TO PUSH EVERYTHING TO THE NEXT MEETING.
NOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
WELL, YEAH, BUT THE RECORDS SHOW THAT THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 18 95, 85, 7, 18 95, SOMEWHERE ALONG IN THERE, HE TOLD ME THAT BIG GREEN HOUSE, HISTORIC DISTRICT, IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL SUM TO REHAB HUNDRED.
YOU GET A ONE BEDROOM AND A TWO BEDROOM OUT OF IT.
IF YOU DID ANYTHING WITH IT, THE FOUNDATION IS, Y'ALL ALL KNOW MY LOVE FOR OLD HOUSES.
IT'S LIKE A DAGGER TO MY HEART TO SEND THIS.
BUT, UM, I PERSONALLY LOOKED AT IT, JUST WALKED AROUND IT.
AND, UM, EVEN IF YOU REHAB IT, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE MUCH WHEN YOU REHAB THAT.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH QUALITY IN THAT FIVE FAMILIES IN THAT ONE SPOT THAT COULD NEED HOUSING.
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I DO BELIEVE IN THIS CASE, IT IS FOR THE GREATER GOOD.SO DO YOU NEED A MOTION TO FOSTER DEMOCRACY? YES, WE DO.
GIVE ME THE, UH, DON'T LET ANY OF MY HISTORICAL FRIENDS HEAR THIS, BUT I MAKE THE MOTION WITH THE APPROPRIATE MOTION.
THEY'RE GOOD STUDENTS TO SEEK BIDS.
I THINK I'VE HEARD COMMISSIONING MOTION TO BE, TO DIRECT STAFF, I GUESS, TO PURSUE DEMOLITION COSTS AND ESTIMATES FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION AND A CERTAIN INTERVAL OF TIME.
IS THAT WHAT YOUR MOTION WAS? HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED? I'LL TRY TO COME BACK NEXT MEETING WITH THEN BY THE NEXT MEETING.
CONSIDER THAT A SECOND BECAUSE WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ONE.
UM, JUST BECAUSE IT IS HISTORIC HOUSE AND I HAVE THE SAME DAGGERS THAT, THAT YOU HAVE, UM, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, IF WE COULD DOCUMENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH SOME PICTURES AND WHATEVER, TO JUST KEEP THE ARCHIVES, THE FACT THAT IT WAS BUILT IN 1885, LET'S GET SOME OF THAT HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND AT LEAST TRY TO DOCUMENT IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT IS A GOOD REFERENCE TO BE KEPT BY THE CITY OR BY THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, SOMETHING.
SO THAT YEARS PEOPLE WANT TO RESEARCH OR WANT MORE INFORMATION.
WE THOUGHT THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'VE DONE THAT TO MANY OF THE HOUSES THAT WERE TORN DOWN IN DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DOCUMENTED IT PRETTY WELL BEFORE THEY, WITH THE SIZE OF THAT HOUSE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
I'M SURE IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT CENTER FOR THAT AREA.
SO IT'S WORTH TALKING TO, YEAH, I WOULD JUST ADD IF, ONCE YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT DEMOLITION THAT YOU JUST ADD, THAT IT'S ALL DOCUMENTED.
THE, AND THAT WOULD DIRECT TO YOU, JEFF.
SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE FLORIDA.
THAT'S BEEN SECONDED TO DIRECTLY TO STAFF, TO SEEK COSTS AND SO FORTH THROUGH TO PURSUE DEMOLITION OF THE HOUSE 2 0 3 JONES STREET AND BRING BACK INFORMATION TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING.
ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[5. Consider Amendment to Offer to Purchase Contract with Kenneth and Mary Allen Background]
ON THE AGENDA IS CONSIDERED AN AMENDMENT TO THE OFFER TO PURCHASE CONTRACT WITH KENNETH AND MARY ALLEN.AGAIN, JEFF, I'LL TURN TO YOU FOR BACKGROUND.
I THINK MOST EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 7, 8, 9 MONTHS.
I THINK OUR ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS IN APRIL JAN JANUARY.
UM, SO YEAH, SO, UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. ALLEN OR JAMIE AND I, UM, FOR THE PAST THREE AND A HALF MONTHS OR SO, UM, TRYING TO ENSURE THAT HE MET THE CONDITIONS OF OUR ORIGINAL CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTIES.
UM, OF COURSE ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS WAS THEY WOULD BE FREE OF ANY RENTERS.
THERE IS ONE RENTER, MR. ALLEN HAS BEEN UNABLE TO MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE AT SIX, 12 AND SIX 41ST AVENUE.
UM, OUR MOST RECENT CONVERSATION WITH HIM, HE RELAYED TO US THAT IT WOULDN'T BE TILL OCTOBER THAT HE COULD GET PHIL'S, UM, THOSE, UH, RENTERS OUT THOSE TENANTS OUT, UM, WHICH WAS VERY SIMILAR TO THE COMP CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH HIM OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN THE NEXT MONTH.
UM, SO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME MOVING FORWARD, UM, WE DECIDED MAYBE IT'D BE BEST TO PULL THAT PROPERTY OUT OF THE, OF THE PURCHASE DEAL, UM, LOWER THE PURCHASE OVERALL PURCHASE PRICE, AND, UH, AND PRESENT THAT CONTRACT TO YOU.
MR. ALLEN IS, IS, UH, OKAY WITH THIS, UM, THIS PROPOSAL.
AND, UM, AND HE'S OKAY WITH US MOVING FORWARD.
WE'LL CLOSE RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
IF WE CAN GET APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT, UM, PROBABLY WITHIN, YOU KNOW, 14, 21 DAYS
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OR SO, UM, HAVE ALL THE OTHER PROPERTIES UNDER OUR OWNERSHIP.BUT, UM, SO THE DECISION HERE IS TO MOVE FORWARD AND REMOVE THOSE PROPERTIES.
THERE IS A DOUBLE LIGHT ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE ANOTHER CARE DOWN SITUATION FOR US.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY IS ALSO IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, UH, PORTION OF IT IS AT LEAST I KNOW THAT.
SO IT'S KIND OF A PROPERTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE IMMEDIATE FREE DEVELOPMENT VALUE TO US.
UM, BUT IT WAS PART OF THE OVERALL, UM, PACKAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US IN ORDER TO PURCHASE THE OTHER PROPERTIES ON FIRST AVENUE.
WE HAVE FIRST RATHER WE'RE CUTE.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO WRITE INTO THE CONTRACT THAT WE WOULD HAVE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL ON THESE PROPERTIES BEFORE HE COULD SELL THEM SIX, FIVE AND SIX 14? IS THAT RIGHT? I'M SURE WE CAN NEGOTIATE THAT.
UM, OTTOMAN BAGEL IN THAT CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. ALLEN, HE IS VERY MOTIVATED TO SELL THOSE PROPERTIES.
UM, AND, UH, UM, I CAN'T SAY ANYONE ELSE HAS MADE HIM AN OFFER, BUT HE IS MOTIVATED TO CONTINUE THE PARTNERSHIP THEM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR JEFF? I I'M A BIT SUSPICIOUS OF SOME.
I MEAN, I THINK THE DEAL IS GOOD AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE BUY THREE PROPERTIES AND LEAVE HIM WITH TWO, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE AN INCENTIVE TO HIM TO RAISE THE PRICE AND, AND, OR DO SOMETHING ELSE, WE'RE BUYING IT NOW AS A PACKAGE.
IF WE DECOUPLE THE PACKAGE THAT GIVES HIM SOME ROOM TO NEGOTIATE, WHICH HE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE MIGHT BE UNFOUNDED SUSPICION, BUT WE CAN WRITE THAT IN AS LIKE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL AT $10,000, WHICH IS THE, THE COST
I MEAN, I THINK THE QUESTION IS, DO WE EVEN WANT THE PROPERTIES? I MEAN, THEY WERE PUTTING IT IN THE PACKAGE.
IF, IF WE WERE CREATING THE PACKAGE, THEY WOULDN'T BE IN IT.
YOU DON'T THINK YOU'D BE A GREAT LOSS TO SALINE TO LOSE TWO PROPERTIES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JEFF ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT? HOW ABOUT TO DANNY HOPE YOU'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT AND UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THE FLIPPED LANE, YOU SAID THERE WERE SOME IN THE FLIP, WHICH WAS THE TWO HE'S KEEPING IN THE PIPELINE.
YEAH, WE GET ALL THE FLOOD, THE ONE, THE BIBLE.
NOW WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING ONE HOUSE IN THIS DEAL THAT YOU WANT.
NOW THAT WE'RE GETTING ONE HOUSE THAT IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN UP TO THE JOIN, THE CORNER OF 22.
BASICALLY MAKE ONE CONTINUOUS LONG STRIP OF VACANT LAND IS WHAT ARE YOU.
WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER THAT LONG STRIP, BIG CHUNK OF LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S A LITTLE INTERSECTION THERE AT FIRST AVENUE.
THAT CORNER IS, IS IN THE CONTOUR OUT.
THERE IS EIGHT, BUT PLAIN IS NINE.
SO IT WOULDN'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF BILL TO BRING THAT UP OR AT LEAST GET THE FIRST FLOOR FINISHED FIRST FLOOR, TWO FEET ABOVE THE FOOT REQUIREMENT.
ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION BEFORE WE DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE, YOU'RE HAVING RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WE CAN USE THAT AS OUR MOTION.
IT WOULD BE APPROVED THE RESOLUTION.
IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE CONTRACT OR TO THE DEPARTMENT OFFERED TO PERSONS WITH THE KIDNEY FAILURE, KIDNEY, ALEC PROPERTIES.
SOME YOU HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, AMENDING THE CONTRACT ENDING THE CONTRACT PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY.
ATTORNEY SAID, SHE SAID, I KNOW MR. STRICKLAND, YOU'VE MADE THE MOTION FOR A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RESOLUTION.
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ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION SACRED FIVE BY SAYING, AYE, AYE.OPPOSED RESOLUTION IS APPROVED.
JAMIE, DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE AGREEMENT TO AMEND THE CONTRACT, THE RESOLUTION DIRECTED TO OPTIMIZE THE CHAIR, TO SIGN THE AMENDMENT.
SO WHENEVER SHE'S AVAILABLE, SHE COULD SIGN IT AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ALLEN TO AFFECT YOU WITH CLOTHES.
THAT'S EXCITING TO BRING CLOSURE TO THIS AFTER NINE MONTHS, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING.
[6. Committee Updates]
ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS COMMITTEE UPDATES, UH, HEALTH AND WELLNESS.UM, I WAS LATE IN GETTING IT DONE.
SO, UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO MEET, UM, AS WELL AS WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, UM, CLEANING HABITAT, UM, AND CCU RESIDENT LEADERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, OUR NEXT BIG PLANNING MEETING IS ON SEPTEMBER 22ND.
AND I FAILED TO PUT THAT IN MY WRITTEN REPORT.
UM, SO WE WERE PLANNING FOR AS A GROUP, UM, PLANNING FOR COMMUNITY RELATIONS DAY, SPLASH, HEART HARVEST FESTIVAL AND LATE OCTOBER AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PORTER OR PART OF HER REASONING FOR DOING THAT IS AGAIN, TO BRING COMMUNITY TOGETHER, BRING RESOURCES TOGETHER, UM, HAVE, OR HEALTH ASSESSMENT, UM, DISTRIBUTED, UM, DURING THOSE TIMES.
SO THIS IS ONE OF MANY EVENTS, UM, THAT WILL BE PLANNED, UM, FORMAL AND INFORMAL.
SO ADDITIONAL FORMAL INFORMAL PROGRAMMING, UM, MOVIE NIGHTS, A LECTURE SERIES, UM, AND AGAIN, UM, USING RESIDENT LEADERS TO RAISE AWARENESS AND PROMOTE OR HEALTH ASSESSMENT.
AND, UM, THESE IDEAS FOR, UM, FOR THESE, UM, PROGRAMS WILL BE COMING FROM WITHIN THE RESIDENTS OF THE W FIELD COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS, UM, AS WE ASSESS NEEDS OF WHAT THEY THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
UM, AND THAT'S THAT PORTION OF IT.
UM, SEPTEMBER 3RD, I ATTENDED THE, AND I ATTENDED, UM, HABITATS, UM, BEEN ABLE TO RUN ELEVATION FIRST BLOCK CAPTAIN TRAINING PROGRAM.
WE WERE ASKED, UM, TO BE PARTNERS WITH THAT, AND THEN WITH SOME OF THE ABUNDANT LIFE MINISTRIES AND I WILL, UM, JOHN AND I WILL CONTINUE TO GO TO THESE, UM, THESE LEADERSHIP PROGRAMMING SESSIONS.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY SEVEN BLOCK HAPPENS THAT HAVE APPLIED, UM, TO BE BLACK CAPTAINS, SEVEN INDIVIDUALS.
UM, SO THEY ARE PARTICIPATING AND APPROXIMATELY 10 SESSIONS, UM, INTERNET, UM, FOCUSING ON BUILDING NECESSARY SKILLS FOR RESIDENT BOOTS ON THE GROUND LEADERSHIP, UM, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.
AND
AND I PUT A DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT IS, BUT I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW IT'S USING THE ASSETS THAT YOU HAVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY BEFORE GOING OUT AND ASKING FOR HELP.
SO, UM, THE NEXT SESSION WILL BE SEPTEMBER 11TH AS THE FIRST FORMAL SESSION OF, YOU KNOW, THESE LEADERSHIP TRAINING PROGRAMS. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? THAT I CAN ANSWER BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT.
UM, SEPTEMBER 28TH, UH, JEFF AND I AND MARGARET SHEELS, AND JOHN HAD A MEETING WITH JARED BRINKLEY.
I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN CONFIRMED YET, BUT THIS IS, UM, HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF THE, UM, THE CAROLINA EAST MEDICAL CENTER HOSPITAL FOUNDATION TO BEGIN DISCUSSING, UM, HOW THEY CAN POTENTIALLY HELP US, UM, WITH SOME FUNDING WITH THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER.
UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT, JEFF, THAT YOU HAD THAT I KNOW.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, MARIA.
SO ARE YOU, UM, I KNOW THE MAYOR HAS SPOKEN TO ME SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT WHAT ACTION MAY BE TAKEN WITH THIS GROUP OR YOUR COMMITTEE WORKING TOWARDS THE POWERHOUSE AND TURNING THAT INTO A COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER, COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER.
SO ARE THERE, OR ARE YOU HAVING A SEPARATE GROUP? IS IT PART OF YOUR HEALTH AND WELLNESS GROUP? HOW ARE YOU TAKING STEPS? OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR SOME FUNDING HERE, BUT RIGHT.
SOME THINGS THAT WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT, SOME SMALL THINGS THAT WE NEED CLEAN PROPERTY.
WE WENT BY THERE THE OTHER DAY KIND OF WALKED AROUND IT AND YEAH.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I ASKED IF YOU NEEDED MY INVOLVEMENT.
SO I DON'T, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT NOW? OR, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL BE PART OF OUR DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE ON THE 28TH.
IT'S, UM, THERE'S TWO STEPS TO THAT.
SO THE FIRST STEP IS FIGURING OUT WHAT THE REHAB LOOKS LIKE AND HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST.
THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH GETTING BAD INFORMATION.
AND THEN FROM THERE, IT'S MUCH EASIER TO GO OUT TO OTHER
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FUNDERS AND SAY, HERE'S OUR PROGRAM, HERE'S OUR PARTNERS.AND WHEN FUNDED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, RIGHT.
THE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH POSSIBLE FUNDERS, WHERE HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED AND KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
WHY ARE YOU GOING TO MEET WITH THEM? IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? WELL, WELL, PART OF THE ASK WILL BE WOULDN'T YOU, WOULD YOU FUND THE DUE DILIGENCE ESSENTIALLY? OKAY.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE THING WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MORGAN HAS THE CONNECTION TO THE FOUNDATION.
SHE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD STARTING POINT.
AND I, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU FELT LIKE YOU'RE WALKING AROUND.
I MEAN, WHEN I SPOKE TO JEFF, UM, MAYBE YOU WERE PART OF THAT WALKTHROUGH.
IT'S LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE, KEEP THE INFRASTRUCTURE INTACT RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WAS, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW TO KEEP THE BUILDING FROM GETTING MORE DETERIORATED, THIS, A COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT FOR SO LONG IS NOT SEPARATE.
AND APART FROM THE, A HOUSE AND A STRUCTURE, IT'S MY EXPERIENCE THAT WHEN YOU APPLY FOR MONEY, PARTICULARLY IN THESE DAYS, THEY'RE GOING TO ASK THE QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMUNITY.
ARE THEY BACK OFF HERE? WHAT ARE THE NEEDS? AND WE HAVE YOU TO BUILD THIS FROM TWO DIRECTIONS.
WE HAVE THEM TO BUILD IT FROM THE COMMUNITY SIDE, TO BE ABLE TO ATTACH THAT, TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO, TO DO THE BRICKS AND MORTAR PART.
SO IT'S NOT A CLEAN PROCESS THAT WE, I MEAN, WE HAVE A STRUCTURE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND IT OR THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT NECESSARILY REPORT.
SO WE HAVE TO SORT OF BLEND ALL OF THOSE THINGS TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THESE MEETINGS, RIGHT? AND THIS WAS, THIS IS SOME ENGAGEMENT, BUT YESTERDAY, CAUSE WE DIDN'T MEET AS A SMALLER GROUP.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION AND JOHN AND MYSELF, UM, NDA SHOT, YOU KNOW, SO LOOKING AT SHORT TERM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT HOW DO WE GET FROM THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT TO THE LONG-TERM GOAL, WHICH IS THE HEALTH CENTER W FIELD.
I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY THINKING ABOUT THAT.
SO PART OF THIS, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE NUMBER THAT WE WANT AND DOING IT DURING THESE EVENTS.
UM, HAVING THE LEADERSHIP OF BLOCK CAPTAINS INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS WILL HELP US TO HAVE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND RAISE THE AWARENESS TO HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT, ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE.
AND ALSO I'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE FEELING WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, UM, AND WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, HOW TO DISTRIBUTE AGAIN.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY HAVING TABLETS AND THAT'S WHAT MY MEETING WITH YOU IS ABOUT NEXT WEEK, UM, A WEEK AFTER, UM, IN ORDER TO GET THE, GET THOSE DONE, UM, AND HOW TO GET RESPONSES.
SO SERVANT LEADERS TO PROMOTE AND RAISE AWARENESS AND ACTUALLY HELP US TO DETERMINE WHAT WOULD BE, UM, THE BEST OF EVENTS TO HAVE, LIKE THE RESOURCE SAVING THE GROUP, CLEANUPS.
THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN BENEFICIAL.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE FIGURED 90 DAYS WOULD BE A GOOD, A GOOD WAY TO REACH THIS GOAL.
AND THEN LONGTERM, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HEALTH CENTER, WE, WE HAVE ABILITY, BUT YOU ALSO WANT THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, BUT WHAT DOES THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHY, WHAT ARE WE PUTTING IN THERE? YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAY, WE TALK ABOUT LOW HANGING FRUIT.
I MEAN, YOU HAD A CONVERSATION, UM, OVER AT, UM, WHERE DID WE GO TO MEET WITH C LEVELS? OH GOSH, I'M BLANKING NOW.
THE COASTAL CAROLINA HEALTHCARE.
UM, WE MET WITH STEVE NACO, THE CEO, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO WORK WITH US, UM, YOU KNOW, AND HAVING EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND JOHN AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC HEALTH AND EDUCATING, STARTING WITH THAT AND THEN TAKING IT FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A COUPLE OF DAYS A WEEK HAVING A PROVIDER.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE YET, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS OR WE KNOW DEFINITELY INCREASING ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE IS A DEFINITELY THAT'S BEEN DOCUMENTED AT THE CNI.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A FLOOD, WE'VE HAD A PANDEMIC, UM, YOU KNOW, POVERTY, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE AREA.
SO WE NEED TO KIND OF FOCUS IN ON EXACTLY MENTAL HEALTH, OF COURSE, ADDICTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, CHRONIC DISEASE.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, ENGAGE WITH THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO BUILD THIS.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT BRICK AND MORTAR IS IMPORTANT, BUT AS JOHN WAS SAYING, THIS PROCESS TO US IS EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT IN GETTING THERE.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE LONG RUN, BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE COME OUT WITH SOME REALLY QUALITY, REALLY QUALITY PROGRAMMING, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT REALLY HAS BEEN HELPFUL.
SO IS IT POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD BE SIDE BY SIDE VERSUS THE WOMEN TOGETHER? COULD IT BE A SIDE-BY-SIDE PROCESS COLLATERAL NOW? SO WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND SO, UM, ANNEX WE'RE, UH, I'M, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH MARGARET, YOU KNOW, WHEN I ASKED YOU IF IT WOULD BE SOME, SOMETHING FOR US THAT WE JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PICK THOSE INDIVIDUAL TYPES OF, UM, BRANDS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE WORK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
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AND THAT'S ALWAYS CHANGING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THINGS HAVE BEEN DEADLINES THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN PRETTY QUICK THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT DUKE AND DOWN IT IS THAT CORRECT? UM, THAT'S COMING UP THAT MAY FIT THE NEED OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.SO A LOT OF THESE GRANTS SOURCES WON'T FUND THE WHOLE THING.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE WHOLE PROGRAM TOGETHER FIRST, AND THEN WE CAN GET PIECES FROM FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT FUNDERS.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO ALL THOSE STEPS.
WHERE ARE YOU AGAINST YOUR GOAL? 300 ASSESSMENTS.
AND SO I KNOW I'M TRYING TO BE, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE FLIPPANT.
SO WE WERE, WE HAVE A 28 COMPLETED, I BELIEVE.
UM, AND THAT WAS FROM THE RESOURCE SAY, BUT IT'S A LOT HARDER THAN YOU THINK IT IS.
AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY FOR US AND HAVING PEOPLE THAT ARE RELEVANT, UM, THAT ARE INTENTIONAL, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, LEADERS, MAYBE THEY'RE PASSIONATE.
I KNOW I MET THE BLOCK CAPTAINS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THE HISTORY, THEY THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT BEING THERE.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO BE INVITED TO IS A BIG STEP.
I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT SHOWS TRUST, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND, UM, LEARN FROM EACH OTHER AND HOW WE CAN HELP EACH OTHER.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S BEEN BENEFICIAL AND, UM, AND THEN GO OUT AND RAISE THIS AWARENESS OF GETTING THIS DONE.
SO THAT IS ORACLE IS TO HAVE THESE EVENTS AND, UM, NCC, YOU WILL CONTINUE TO COME DOWN, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH THE ACTUAL DISTRIBUTION, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY DEVELOPED IT.
SO IT SEEMS CONVOLUTED, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WORKING THROUGH.
THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO IT.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M ONE OF THOSE SHINING STARS THAT I'VE SEEN RECENTLY.
THERE ARE TWO ONES, MARGARET WITH A HOSPITAL, THE HOSPITAL, AND TWO IS HABITAT FOR HUMANITY IS EFFORT AND, UH, IN COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION THAT WILL HELP US TO NOT BE AN OUTSIDER.
WHEN WE ASKING THIS, WE, ALL OF WHAT WE ASK THEM FOR IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY AND HABITAT WILL HELP THEM UNDERSTAND IS THE FOOT ARE GOOD.
AND I JUST THINK HIS PROGRAM THAT, UH, UH, ANTOINETTE IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS JUST WONDERFUL.
WE COULD DO WITH THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
UM, SO UPDATE ON OUR SIX WITH GAS IN HOUSE, UM, FOOTERS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE FORWARD ON FRIDAY.
EVERYBODY CAN MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS NO CARS PARKED ON THEM, WHICH IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I HAD AT THAT POINT.
UM, MOVERS ARE STILL READY TO CONTACT.
AND THEN EARLY IN THE WEEK, THEY'RE READY TO GO, GOT TO GIVE TIME FOR THE PLAYERS TO CLEAR UP.
THINGS MAKE, MAKE EVERYTHING EASIER.
UM, FROM THERE, UM, EXPLORING IF I NEED TO PEAK RQ, THE, WE HAVE EFFORT ABOVE THE BEDS, ESSENTIALLY MAKING SURE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITH HUD, IF THEY WERE GOING TO REQUIRE US TO DO THAT OR NOT, AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
SO FUTURE UPDATES WILL BE ON CONSTRUCTION AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
WE GOT A LOT MORE WORK TO DO FROM THE SIDE ON THAT ASPECT OF IT.
BUT AGAIN, MOVING A LOT SLOWER THAN I WOULD HAVE IMAGINED.
UM, WE LOST A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE THERE KEPT BEING CARS PARKED ON THE PROPERTY.
AND WHENEVER WE WENT THERE TO DO THE SURVEYS AND SURVEY THE FOOTERS.
SO VERY LAST ABOUT FIVE MINUTES OF TIME ON THAT, TRYING TO GET A SURVEYOR OUT THERE SURVEY WAS VERY BUSY.
THIS TIME OF YEAR FINDING A SURVEYOR WAS A LOT HARDER THAN I COULD IMAGINE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR TWISTING OUR SURVEYORS ON TO MAKE SURE THAT HE WAS THE GUY THAT SAID YES TO US.
I GOT TURNED DOWN FIVE, SIX TIMES.
UM, SO THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO WORK IN W FIELD, NOT BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT DUCK DOESN'T FEEL OR ANYTHING SINCE, BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO SURVEY IN DUFFIELD AND NOBODY WANTS TO PUT THEIR LICENSE ON THE LINE OR WRONG SURVEYS OR CHALLENGED SURVEYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S JUST A DIFFICULT PROCESS.
IT'S SOMETHING I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MOVING ALONG.
UH, WE MET WITH LEON, UM, ON THE SECOND TO DISCUSS PHASE TWO OF THE CONTRACT HAD A GOOD MEETING, UM, WITH HIM.
UM, HE GAVE US SOME LANGUAGE ON DELIVERABLES, UM, SENT BACK CLARIFICATIONS THAT WE HAD AND HE'S OKAY WITH IT.
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DOCUMENT.UM, FOR THE DELIVERABLES ON PHASE TWO MAY HAVE TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COMMISSION.
SO WE CAN BE BACK ON TRACK BEFORE OUR OCTOBER MEETING SO WE CAN GET MOVING ON THAT AND MOVE FORWARD.
HAVING THE PROPERTIES PURCHASED BY THEM WILL BE, UH, WOULD BE ANOTHER BIG WIN.
AND WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE FIRST THREE.
I PUT THAT IN MY UPDATE, BUT THEN, UH, JAMIE WORKED OUT THAT WHOLE AMENDED RESOLUTION ABOUT 10 MINUTES.
SO ALL THAT STUFF CHANGED REAL QUICK AND THAT'S, UH, WE ALREADY GOT THE UPDATE ON THAT ONE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD WORKING GROUP.
HOLMES WAS A, HIS FIRST DAY WITH THE CITY WAS, UH, BEGINNING OF THE WEEK AND HE'S HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND SENT THEM OFF INTO THE WORLD.
IT WILL BE, UH, TACKLING OUR OTHER ONES THAT ARE THE THINGS.
UM, ONE OF HIS LARGEST TASKS IS TO, UM, APPROACH THE ABANDONED VEHICLES ISSUE THAT WE HAVE, THEN DOESN'T FIELD AND START TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND KNOCKING ON SOME DOORS AND GETTING TO KNOW EVERYBODY AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, ENFORCING OUR MINIMUM HOUSING.
UM, AND NUISANCE GOES UP THERE.
SO IT'S GREAT TO HAVE HIM HERE.
I KNOW HE'S ECSTATIC TO BE HERE.
UH, WE'RE KIND OF COMPASSIONATE.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT FIRE AWAY? ALL RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS THE POSITION? I MEAN, I KNEW, UH, SO IT'S A MINIMUM HOUSING, NUISANCE ABATEMENT COMMUNITY LIAISON SLASH I'M THINKING
AND WE HAD A REALLY GOOD MEETING WITH DR.
CALDWELL AND HAVE HAD VERY FRANK DISCUSSIONS ON BOTH SIDES.
AND I THINK IT WAS VERY POSITIVE.
AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
AND IS THERE, YOU HAD MENTIONED THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING, IS THERE ANY PROBLEM THAT ANYBODY CAN SEE RIGHT NOW THAT TWO WEEKS FROM TONIGHT, WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING BECAUSE WE NEED TO PUT THEM THERE THE FESTIVAL.
AND THAT WOULD BE IT, THAT WOULD BE A SHORT MEETING WITH ONE TOPIC ON THE AGENDA, WHICH WILL BE BASED TO THE CONTRACT WITH DR.
ALL THE PROPERTIES, ANY IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND PURSUE THOSE CASES? UH, WE WILL, I'LL HAVE A SPECIAL CALL THE MEETING ON THE 22ND AT SIX O'CLOCK OLD BUSINESS, ANY OLD BUSINESS AMONGST US NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED NEW BUSINESS.
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I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.SO WHEN YOU WENT TO THE WALKTHROUGH, WAS THIS WEEK, DID YOU FIND ANYTHING THAT WAS, UM, AS FAR AS THE, MY POWDER HOUSE THAT WAS OUTSTANDING OR, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR FEEDBACK? YEAH, WELL, I'VE BEEN IN THE BUILDING MEANTIME, MS. ROOF NEEDS WINDOWS, JUST TO, WE'RE CONCERNED THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO LIKE BOARD UP THE WINDOWS NOW THAT ARE BROKEN.
SO THERE'S NOT ANY FURTHER DAMAGE.
SO THAT WAS SOME OF OUR CONCERN WITH GETTING IT STABILIZED AND AT LEAST BOARDING UP THE WINDOWS.
NOT THAT WE WANT TO SEE BOARDED UP WINDOWS, BUT WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GET HURT, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONAL GLASS BREAKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR, UH, BAD WEATHER, YOU KNOW, DETERIORATING INSIDE ANY MORE THAN IT ALREADY ELSE.
WE'VE DONE SOME WORK IN THE PAST WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TREE THAT WAS GROWING ON TOP OF THE TREE WAS A FENCE THAT WAS ON OUR PROPERTY THAT WE HAD TO OVER A LITTLE BIT.
BUT YEAH, WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK I'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH GOING AHEAD AND BACK OVER THERE AND SEEING IF WE CAN DO BOARDED UP
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THE WINDOW, THE WINDOW BREAK, A BROKEN WINDOWS IS RELATIVELY NEW NOW SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS.HONESTLY, I'VE BEEN IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, BUT I'LL, I'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT COMMENTS QUESTIONS BEFORE WE WIND THIS UP.
ARE WE GOING TO DO A LITTLE BIT, WE'RE A NEW BUSINESS.
YOU'RE A PRO YOU GOT TO KIND OF SAY SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOOK YOUR HEAD THAT UP.
WE USUALLY DON'T TALK, BUT, UM, JUST THAT TWO THINGS, UM, THROUGH MY TRAVELS WITH THE STATE, UM, I ACTUALLY HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SEEING SOME INNOVATIVE THINGS GOING ACROSS.
UM, ONE BIG THING IS TRYING TO STEM THE TEACHER SHORTAGE THAT WE HAVE IN NORTH CAROLINA, THE SEVERE TEACHER SHORTAGE THAT WE HAVE IN NORTH CAROLINA, WHAT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE DOING, HOW THE CLOSEST ONE HERE IS BERTIE PITS DIGGING INTO IT.
UH, CHARLOTTE RALEIGH, UM, ALL THE AREAS IS A DEPARTMENT WITH THE CITY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
AS AN EXAMPLE, I GOT IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
UM, STATE EMPLOYEES, CREDIT UNION LOVES TO GET HIM TO JUST KIND OF BEING GOLDEN LEAP, UM, THE SCHOOL PARTNERS OF BERKELEY COUNTY SCHOOLS.
AND THEY ALL CAME TOGETHER TO BREAK AND CROWN IN THREE MONTHS OR THE TEACHING HOUSING COMPLEX, WHICH STARTED IN THE REDEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT'S THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT THEY'RE NOW GOING IN, AND THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN TO GET YOUNG MILLENNIALS TO COME IN, UM, WITH THE LITTLE CARE OF HOUSING SUBSIDY, BECAUSE IT'S THE PARTNERSHIP.
UM, BUT THAT'S HOW YOU GET TEACHERS TO COME AND STAY AND HOPEFULLY GET MARRIED.
THEY WILL GET MARRIED AND YOU MIGHT NOT SEE.
SO
UM, JUST WANTED TO PICK UP, WE HAVE A BLUEPRINT OF BERGEN COUNTY.
I CAN GET THE SPECIFICS OF THE BOARD, UM, BUT IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING CLOSE TO HIS HOUSE.
UH, SO I PROCESS TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT.
UM, I JUST, I WAS AT A MEETING EARLIER AND BECAUSE OF THE LACK, UM, UH, I WOULD SAY PERCEIVED COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND MARGINALIZED AREAS IN REGARDS TO HEALTH.
UM, AND THE HEALTH APPROACH HELPED THE WEARINESS OF SCHOOLS ARE NOW THINKING ABOUT IT.
A STATE IS THINKING ABOUT, UM, COMING UP WITH A PLAN WITH, UH, UH, TELLING HIM, TELL HIM, TELL HIM, TELL HIM THAT, UM, WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING, WHICH IS TRUE, CHIEF STACY, AND, UM, YOU DO AN RFP FOR A, UM, COULD BE A PARAPROFESSIONAL, OR IT COULD BE A LICENSED PERSON, BUT REALLY, UH, THE PERSON IS THERE TO, IF YOU NEED TO TAKE A BLOOD PRESSURE, YOU NEED TO TAKE DISTRICT AND YOU TAKE THAT AND KEEP TO IT IS, UM, ATRIUM HAS PICKED IT UP IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE STATE.
YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING BECAUSE THEY LOVED THE IDEA SO MUCH ALONG WITH THE, EVERYBODY KNOWS THE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES IN A SCHOOL, THE FIRST, FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE, THE FIRST PERSON THAT THEY CAN GO TO BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD ONE'S PERSONAL IS THE SCHOOL NURSE.
SO THE SCHOOL NURSE IS NOT BOMBARDED.
THEY'LL BRING IN A RFP $30,000 LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL.
AND THEIR WHOLE JOB IS TO, SO THE KID'S NOT TAKING THEIR OWN BLOOD PRESSURE OR TAKING THEIR OWN SYMPTOMS AND THIS AND THAT, THE DOCTORS ON THE OTHER LINE, YOUR DOCTORS AND THEY COME, UM, ALSO, AND MOM IS EITHER ON THE PHONE OR ON ZOOM TOO.
SO NOW INSTEAD OF THE NURSE SAYING IT WAS A BOOBOO, TELL MOM TO PICK YOU UP, TAKE YOU TO THE HOSPITAL, THAT GOD CAN ACTUALLY PRESCRIBE.
BUT I RAISED UP AND SAID, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN APPROACH IN CRAVEN COUNTY WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO SO.
SO NOT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES ARE PERCEIVED AS NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR YOU DO THOUGH.
WHEN A CHILD IS SICK AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE MEDICINE, THE MOST CASES THEY NEED TO GO HOME, OR IS THERE LIKE A QUARANTINE, BUT AN AREA THAT THEY CAN GO TO.
I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF THE PROBLEM.
TOO MANY PARENTS SEND CHILDREN TO SCHOOL SICK BECAUSE THEY EITHER CAN'T STAY WITH THEM AT HOME OR WHATEVER.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY BIGGEST CONCERN AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE YOU PUT A CHILD WHO IS SICK AND NEEDS MEDICINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S A DESIGNATED ROOM WITH AN AIRFIELD AND I HATE IT.
THEY SIT IN THERE BY THEMSELVES, BUT THEY'RE ALL BEING WATCHED BY THE DOME, BUT HE'S SITTING THERE BY HIMSELF UNTIL MAMA CAN COME GET THEM.
AND IT IS A TIGHT CORE QUARANTINE.
UM, SO IF IT'S A TYPE OF CONTAGIOUS TYPE OF THING, THEY WOULD USE THAT ROOM, THE ROOM ALREADY EXISTS, BUT USUALLY THEY COME LITTLE BUMPS OF WHAT TO SEE AT THIS BRO THAT IS USED WITH SOMETHING MINOR, BUT THEY CAN'T.
SO STILL THE SCHOOL NURSES IS ACTUALLY THE PSEUDO DOCTOR TO GIVE TREATMENT TO A LARGE PORTION OF THE BABIES THAT
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COME OUT TO THE SCHOOL.SO THAT WAS JUST AS KUDOS TO YOU.
WELL, I MEAN, I, THERE'S A THERE'S JUST TO ADD TO THAT.
PAULO, HE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM ON HOTTER, THIS IS ALL GOOD EXAMPLES.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THEM WITH HOTTER HOUSE FALL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE START OUT DOING EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND THEN HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, A TELEHEALTH CENTER, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IT SET UP WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN USE THAT.
AND I KNOW WE TALKED TO MARGARET ABOUT GRANTS FOR THAT WHEN WE MET, I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, YOU KNOW, OR THEY PROBABLY FUNDING PROGRAMS LIKE THAT.
SO YOU DON'T ACTUALLY NECESSARILY KNOW THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO TELEHEALTH, OF COURSE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A START AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC.
I MEAN, THAT BECAME NECESSARY.
SO THESE ARE ALL GREAT THINGS.
I MEAN, UM, YOU KNOW, GREAT IDEAS, INNOVATIVE THAT I KNEW WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT AT SOME POINT.
SO WHERE DOES THAT HAPPEN? ALL RIGHT.
NOW, WITHIN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF US TRYING TO LOCALIZE IT AT THE STATE AND RALEIGH, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A PILOT COMING OUT IN PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.
ONCE WE GET EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE AND ACTUALLY NEED TO RFP AND ACTUALLY HAVE A PILOT IN A COMMUNITY.
AND THEN ONCE THAT HAPPENS FOR THE SUCCESSFUL, IT'S JUST GOING TO EXPLODE, TELL HIM THIS OVERRIDE, THERE WERE YELLOW.
SO IF YOU ADDED WINNING TO INVEST, AND IT'S A CONSORTIUM ABOUT HIM TELLING HIM EVENTS, BECAUSE THAT IS THE FUTURE, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING.
UM, BUT WE'RE WHAT COME UP TODAY IN EXECUTIVE COUNCIL SITTING RIGHT HERE WOULD SAY SUPERINTENDENT GOING SOMEWHERE.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE FUTURE IT'S COMING.
BUT I, I, OTHER WORDS, MY INTERVAL, WE'RE ALREADY DOING SOMETHING.
AT LEAST WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF OURS, WE'RE APPROACHING THE PROBLEM.
SO NOT ALL OF US, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL CITIES ARE TURNING THEIR BACKS ON US.
I JUST WANTED TO RAISE YOUR GAME.
ONE OF MY VISIONS FOR THE TODDLER HOUSE IS STEADY.
THEY ARE FUTURE TRIAGE CENTER.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS HOW YOU TRIAGE PEOPLE THAT KEEP THEM FROM GETTING INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND INTO THE SYSTEM, UH, OTHERWISE, AND, AND WHAT, WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PERFECT FOR THAT.
AND IF WE GEAR OUR FUNDING FOR THAT, THE INNOVATIVE KINDS OF THINGS, THAT'S WHY THE BOOKS ARE GOING TO PAY, RIGHT.
UH, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FUND OLD FASHIONED KIND OF STUFF THAT NOBODY WANTS.
SO PRETTY ODD IS THE KEY WORD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS COME FROM THE BOARD.
IF NOT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN, THAT'S IT.