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THE ORDER OF THE MARK MEETING OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION ALCOHOL ROLE ACTUALLY GOT GOOD.

THAT'S MY JOB.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MORGAN HERE.

COMMISSIONER RICHARD FOR MR. WALKER, MR. WALLACE, I GUESS FOR A LONG TIME.

COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER FAIR BOYS HERE.

UH, EX-OFFICIO OFFICER BENGAL HERE, UH, ON A WOMAN VEST OR A WOMAN PARIS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A BLAST WITH JENNY.

SHE AIN'T HERE WITH US TODAY, BUT I HAVE HER BACK.

AND SO WE'D HAVE A QUORUM ESTABLISHED FOR THE MEETING THIS EVENING.

UH, NOW WILL BE TIME FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, THERESA HOLD YOU TO FOUR MINUTES.

SO THEREFORE I HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING.

SO ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, UH, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES, SO COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO ACCOMMODATE YOU AND THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NONE WE'LL

[2. Approval of Minutes]

MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

WE'RE ALL SET OUT TO YOU AND HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE THEM READ THEM.

THIS IS MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 10TH.

THEY'RE APPROVED.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? IF NOT EVERYONE, SEE THE FIVE FAVORITE TAKING A BITE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

AND THAT MOVES

[3. 1213 Mechanic Street]

US ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, WHICH IS, UH, 1213 MET MECHANIC STREET AND TURN IT OVER TO JEFF FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

UM, SO WE WERE APPROACHED BY, UH, TONERS CATLIN 13, 14 GARDENS, AND THE ADDRESS IS NOT LISTED AS THE OWNER, BUT I BELIEVE IN AS A CHAPLAIN, THE PROPERTY OWNER OF 14, WHICH IS ALSO THE GROCERY STORE, THAT'S OUT THERE, THE LOCATION, THE STREET, AND HE CAME UP ON JASMINE TO THE LEFT ON, MAY FOLLOW IT ALL THE WAY UP.

IT WILL BE OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, RIGHT BEHIND THE GROCERY STORE, THE OLD OWNERS REQUESTING THERE'S THE PROPERTY, RIGHT THERE TAKE A BOAT.

SUBDIVISION IS ALL IN THE FLOOD, PLAIN GROUND ELEVATION UP THERE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE FEET BASE FLOOD IS NINE.

SO ANY KIND OF A BUILDING WOULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN SEVEN AND IT WOULD BE A LEVEL HIGHER THAN THAT.

SO THERE'LL BE OUT THERE.

UM, INFORMATION IS IN PRETTY DEEP IN THE BLACK ONE, THE TAX GUY, TYPICALLY FOR ALL THE BOTTLES OUT HERE IS YOUR GENERIC $4,000 FOR THE PROPERTY.

UM, SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION, I GUESS MY COMMISSION DECIDES TO DISPOSE OF THE PROPERTY.

IT WILL BE IN THE FORM OF A, A REQUEST TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS.

THAT'S HOW WE CAN DISPOSE OF THIS PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY.

UM, WHY IS THAT? I ASKED THAT QUESTION.

JANE CAME, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE REASON WE PUT IT IN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE REDEVELOPMENT STATUTE, WHICH IS 1 68, SAID THAT THE COMMISSION DOES HAVE THE POWER TO SELL AND THEY CAN ACT,

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HOWEVER, THEY STILL HAVE OPTIONS THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC ART PUBLIC OPTION IS AN EXAMPLE.

UM, AND THE UPSET, THE PROCESS, THE THING THAT MAKES THE, THE COMMISSION SPECIAL, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE WHEN YOU THINK THROUGH, AND YOU WOULD THINK THAT THERE WILL BE AN EXCEPTION, BUT TODAY 'CAUSE, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A LOT OF THE MOTIVATION FOR US FORMING THE COMMISSION AND DOING THAT.

I MEAN, THERE'D BE NO REASON FOR US TO EVEN PUT THE PROPERTY IN THE COMMISSION'S HANDS, OTHER THAN YOU CAN PUT CONDITIONS ON IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO, BUT IT STILL GOES THROUGH THE UPSET BID PROCESS WITH CONDITIONS.

SO IT'S THE COMPETITION, THE SAME THING IN THE DAY YOU'RE SELLING PROPERTY.

UM, AND YOU WANT CONDITIONS.

IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO BUYS IT.

UM, AND IF SOMEBODY HAS ANY IDEAS DIFFERENTLY THAN THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS, PROBABLY THE NEXT MEETING, I GUESS, JANUARY THEY'LL BE BOMBED BY THOSE CONDITIONS.

SO MOM CAN COME IN TO BUY IT AND NOT ABIDE BY THE CONDITIONS THAT WE PUT ON, ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

SO, UM, IT IS AN EXTRA STEP AND, OR THE DADDY'S STILL GETS THE SAME WAY.

OH.

AND THE FUNDS WOULD STILL BE ACCORDED TO THE CORRECT, THE GRAND SCORE AND THE TRANSACTIONAL, THE REDEVELOPMENT, THE EMAIL, WHAT THE PERSON WANTS TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY, OTHER THAN, UM, CREATE A BIGGER YARD.

THEY'VE ALREADY CLEANED UP THE PROPERTY.

IT WAS OVERGROWN.

AND THAT WASN'T ON IT WHEN I WAS AT, THEY PUT IT THERE OR NOT, BUT IT'S BEEN CLEANED UP BY THIS MORNING.

YOU'VE BEEN CLEAR AND THERE'S NO OVERGROWTH, NOBODY JUMPED ON IT OR ANYTHING.

SO IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION WHEN YOU WANT TO HOLD ON TO IT ABOUT HOW TO DISPOSE OF IT.

UM, WHAT KIND OF CONDITIONS YOU WANT TO PUT ON IT? SO I OPENED IT UP TO DISCUSS, OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, SO WE CAN PIN, WE COULD CONDITION THE PROPERTY THAT THEY SHALL BUILD SOMETHING WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

WE CAN CONDITION IT, THAT THERE WILL BE NOTHING BUILT ON IT, FREE AND CLEAR OF ALL DEBRIS AND OVERGROWTH, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS YOU CAN PUT AWAY AND CONDITION YOU ON A FAIRLY REASONABLE.

AND WHEN THEY GET INTO A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHAT IS THE QUESTION FOR JAMIE? IF WE PUT CONDITIONS ON IT, WHAT IS THE FORESEEABILITY OF THAT? SO FOR INSTANCE, IF WE SAID HAS TO BE FREE AND CLEAR OF DEBRIS AND ABANDONED CARS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN CARS STARTED SHOWING UP ON IT, WHAT IS OUR RECOURSE? AND THAT SITUATION WOULD BE ABOLISHED NUMBER OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.

AND I THINK, BUT I'M NOT ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT THERE CAN BE A REVERSION COMMISSION.

OKAY.

ALONG THOSE LINES.

MY QUESTION WOULD ALSO BE, UM, SINCE IT IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN AND, YOU KNOW, USING FEMA FUNDS AND DOING ALL THAT, IT WOULD HAVE ONE OF THE RESTRICTIONS BE THAT THEY, THEY COULDN'T BUILD SOMETHING ON THE LOT BECAUSE IT IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.

I MEAN, OTHER THAN IT WOULD BE 10 FEET IN.

YEAH.

IT'S PRETTY DEEP.

YEAH.

IT COULD BE BUILT ON, RESTRICT IT FROM BIG BUILT ON IT.

THAT FEAST, CORRECT.

WHO WE COULD INTO THE MINIMUM BUILDING THE FARM, UH, THE 110 LANE, 160.

THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.

65 ROBBIE BEFORE WE STARTED IMPOSING RESTRICTIONS AND SANCTIONS ON WHAT CAN AND WHAT CAN'T BE DONE.

JEFF, SINCE YOU WERE OVER THERE EARLIER, WHY DON'T YOU WALK EVERYBODY ELSE

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THROUGH WHAT HIS PRESENT PROPERTY THAT'S ADJACENT TO THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT YOU SAW EARLIER? UM, SO I WENT BY THE PRESS WAS FIRST MADE BY A MONTH AGO AND IT WAS PRETTY JUNKY.

UM, BY AGAIN, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THEY WERE OUT THERE CLEANING.

IT WAS A LOT OF JUNK BEHIND THE GROCERY STORE AND I'M A LOT, UM, IN, ON THE LOT THAT WE OWN THERE WENT BY TODAY, IT WAS OFF.

OKAY.

UM, I TWO RODE BY AND I DO KNOW WHO YOU'RE SPEAKING TO AND I KNOW WHERE THE PROPERTY WAS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE BOTHERED RECENTLY AND THAT YOU COULD WALK THEM THROUGH AND IT IS CLEAR AND IT IS CLEAN AT THIS POINT.

SO, UM, AND WHAT HE IS GOING TO PROBABLY NOT DO IS BE WITH SOMETHING ELSE.

YEAH, NO, THAT WAS NOT HIS, UH, HIS REQUEST WAS TO HAVE A BIGGER YARD, WHICH MY IMMEDIATE CONCERN WAS WHEN I GO BY , IT'S PRETTY NICE.

IF THE GROCERY STORE ACTIVE IS AN ACTIVE USE THAT COULD USE THAT FOR PARK.

YEAH.

I WAS THINKING IF THIS STORE WAS ACTIVE OR POTENTIALLY, I CAN USE THAT FOR PARKING BECAUSE THERE IS NO PARKING FOR THE STORE.

UH, YOU DON'T FIND PEOPLE STAYING IN THAT STORE FOR ANY PERIODS OF TIME, SO IT NEVER REALLY GETS OVER CROWDED.

UM, BUT YES, THE STORE IS AT, I THINK PART OF WHAT THEY TOLD ME, I'M GOING TO SEND THAT REQUEST, BUT THE, OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS? I THINK I SEE TWO QUESTIONS HERE.

FIRST ONE IS, ARE WE WILLING TO DISPOSE OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? AND THE SECOND THING, WHAT RESTRICTIONS LET'S DEAL WITH? THE FIRST QUESTION, ARE WE WILLING TO, UH, DISPOSE OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? MY FATHER IS IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.

IT'S NOT A PARTICULARLY STRATEGIC PURPOSE FOR US.

I MEAN, FORGIVING LOCATION FOR US AND A HEIGHT LEVEL IS NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP ON IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ANYTHING AVAILABLE, THIS WOULD SEEM TO BE ONE OF THE ONES THAT WOULDN'T BE RIGHT TO THE MINIMUM.

NOW WITH THAT SAID, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HAD BEEN A MINDSET IN THE PAST, HOLD ON.

EVERYTHING WE COULD AND KNOW EVERYTHING WAS FARTHER ALONG, BUT THAT, THAT AREA IS NOT ONE THAT ISN'T SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED NOW FOR OUR FOCUS AREAS.

SO, OKAY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT FACT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO DISPOSE TO THAT COULDN'T BE ON THE RECORD? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO DISPOSE OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 12, 13 MECHANIC STREET, OUTSIDE THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, I GUESS JUST FROM A PERFECT SEADRILL STANDPOINT, I MIGHT ADD THAT WE'RE KIND OF SETTING A PRECEDENT HERE BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST PIECE OF PROPERTY TO COME OUT OF OUR HANDS TO SOMEONE ELSE.

SO A PROCESS STANDPOINT AND THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE THINGS, I LIKE THE WAY YOU JUST GOT TO SPLIT THAT INTO, BUT AS WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PIECE OF THAT CONVERSATION, ANY KIND OF THINGS WE ATTACHED TO IT, WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE SETTING A BIT OF A PRECEDENT AND THE PRICING, AND OBVIOUSLY THE DOLLARS HAVE TO BE IN PLAY POINT OF ORDER, MADAM ATTORNEY.

UM, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU SHOULD JUST GET A SHOW OF HANDS WHO WANTS TO SELL IT AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOTION TO SELL IT AT WHAT PRICE AND WHAT RESTRICTIONS, BECAUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE THE MOTION THAT WOULD I BE CORRECT, THAT IT SHOULD BE AT THAT FULL MOTION TO COME TO US.

AND THAT IT'S JUST START, THE MOTION WOULD BE TO START THE UPSET BID PROCESS, NOT TO SELL IT TO HIM BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

IS THAT CORRECT? ONCE YOU COULD, WHAT YOU COULD DO POTENTIALLY IS TO ASSESS THIS, COMMISSION'S WILLINGNESS TO DISPOSE OF THE PROPERTY, RECOMMENDS CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND THEN MAKING A MOTION.

YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TODAY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST TO NORMALIZE MAYBE A RESOLUTION THAT THIS COMMISSION COULD ADOPT AND RESOLVE LAYOUT.

WHAT PARTS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, THIS PARTICULAR TRANSACTION COULD ADDRESS CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED AND OTHER THINGS THAT WILL BE PERTINENT

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FOR THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO CONSIDER, AND THEN ADOPTING THAT RESOLUTION.

IF IT GOES TO THE BOARD INVOLVEMENT YOU TO CONSIDER THAT IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

YEAH.

W WE'RE NOT, WE'LL MAKE IT DIFFERENT AT JAMIE'S.

AND OUR NEXT MEETING, WE'LL COME BACK WITH A FORMALIZED PRESENTATION THAT OUTLINES THE, UH, A LOT ITSELF, WHAT THE SELLING PRICE WE'LL START AT, HOW IS CONSISTENT WITH REDRAWN AND THE CONDITIONS THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SALES, NOT THE BOARD WON'T ACT ON ANY OF THAT.

ALL THEY WILL DO IS JUST ALLOW THE INITIATION OF THE UPSET BID PROCESS.

ALL THAT IT'LL BE ON THE RECORD AND VERY CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY WHAT UPDATE PRICES BASED ON THOSE TWO THINGS YOU'RE ASKING FOR NOW, STRAW POLL ON THE BOARD, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN BOTH TAKE IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S YOUR CASE THAT YOU'VE MADE THE MOTION.

OKAY.

SO EVERYBODY'S NOD YOUR HEAD OF YOUR, UH, PURSUED THIS PROCESS THAT YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH PURSUING THE DISPOSAL OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CONDITIONS.

AND THE SECOND OFF THE DOTS TO THE CONDITIONS, LET'S TALK ABOUT CONDITIONS.

I MEAN, I PERSONALLY WANT A, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK ABOUT IT CONDITION ALLOWING UP MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY IN A CLEAN AREA WITH NO ESPECIALLY FANDOM CARD BEING ON THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS SO PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IT BECOMES A PROBLEM FOR THE CITY THAT WE HAVE TO GO CLEAN UP AGAIN OR TAKE IT BACK AGAIN.

AND IF WE DO TAKE IT BACK, I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT LIKE, SO THERE'S NO OPEN STORAGE OR ANY GOODS OR ANYTHING MOVING STORAGE CAPTURES IN OUR CODE AND OURS ARE DEFINITIONS ANYTHING.

WELL, IT COVERED GROWTH AS WELL.

YEAH.

I MEAN, ALL THAT STUFF IS IN THE ORDINANCE ANYWAYS.

BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO IS PUT A REVERSION IN THAT I KNOW WHEN WE WRITE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, WE HAVE A CLAUSE ABOUT ANYTHING WITH CONSTITUTED, A NUISANCE.

AND WE ALSO TALK ABOUT THE STATUS OF VEHICLES THAT MIGHT BE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'D LIKE TO USE IT PARKING.

AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UNLICENSED INOPERABLE VEHICLES IN VERY SPECIFIC TERMS, OR CODE ALLOWS THE STORAGE OF VEHICLES.

ONE, IF IT'S REGISTERED AND AN OPERATING CONDITIONS, Y'ALL MAY NOT WANT TO BE FREE AND CLEAR.

IT CAN BE LIKE A FEMALE RESTRICTION, WHICH WOULD BE VERY CLEAR AND THAT NOTHING CAN BE BUILT ON IT MUST BE KEPT IN ITS NATURAL STATE, ESSENTIALLY PASSIVE RECREATION USES PICNIC TABLES, STRUCTURAL, NO STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

BUT AGAIN, IF HE COMES BACK AND SAYS, WELL, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MY BUSINESS IS BOONE.

I NEED FOUR PARKING SPACE.

THAT'S A BAD IDEA.

EITHER I MISSED OUT ON ANYTHING THAT WOULD AGAIN, BE CONSTRUED AS A NUISANCE THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH TO BE ALLOWED.

I MEAN, I'M THINKING IN THAT AREA SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OVERGROWTH OF VEGETATION AND JUNK VEHICLES.

YEAH.

SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO BACK AND JUST KIND OF ASSESS A LITTLE FURTHER IF THERE'S ANY INTENTION IN THE FUTURE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED USING IT AS A WORD, BUT IS IT MAYBE BE JUST TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION? SO WE'RE PROACTIVELY SEEING IF IN FACT HE DOESN'T WANT TO POSSIBLY BEFORE PARKING THERE EVENTUALLY, OR, I MEAN, IS THAT, IS THAT BEING TOO INTRUSIVE OR, YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE LANGUAGE THAT THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.

I MISSED THE CONVERSATION.

I DON'T FEEL THIS WAY.

WE CAN FOCUS ON LITERALLY PUT IN THAT IT CAN ONLY BE USED ANY IMPROVEMENTS ONLY BE USED AS A IMPROVED PARKING AREA TO SUPPORT THE GROCERY STORE.

AND THAT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS SPECIFIC THAT CONSISTENT WITH OUR HAITI AND NOT THEIR FACE WHEN PEOPLE PUT THEIR CARS MAY END UP HAVING, BECAUSE THERE'S REAL.

[00:20:01]

NO, NOT THAT I'M PROPOSING IT FOR THIS PARTICULAR THING.

JUST FOR KNOWLEDGE.

CAN WE PUT SOMETHING IN A SALE LIKE THIS BEFORE YOU DEVELOP ANYTHING ON IT, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL, OR WE HAVE TO CLEARLY SPELL OUT APARTMENT WHILE WE HAVE YOU WILLINGNESS TO DISPOSE OF THE PROPERTY RESTRICTIONS.

DAMIEN, CAN WE MAYBE WORK UP SOME LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN BRING BACK TO THE BORDER CIRCULATED INTERNALLY, THIRD IS PRICE.

WELL, THE LAST THING I'VE COMMENTED ABOUT THE RESTRICTIONS, YOU CAN MAKE IT, AND THEN, THEN WE OWN IT.

THE MAIN THING THAT COULD KEEP TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES FOREVER.

SO THERE'S A FINE LINE TO WALK THERE.

IF WE TRULY THINK THAT IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE USED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND WE ARE WILLING TO DISPOSE OF IT, WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO RESTRICTED TO NO VALUE AS YOU PROPOSE THE NEXT MEETING AGAIN.

OKAY.

THEN THIRD THING THAT JEFF DID RECOMMENDED PRICE JUST AS SOME BACKGROUND BOARD OF ALL OF THEM IN THERE ON POLICY IS 50% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE WOULD BE A MINIMUM BID.

SO IT WILL BE A $2,000.

A MINIMUM UPSET BID PROCESS WAS STARTED AT TWO, OR YOU CAN PUT WHATEVER YOU WANT, HAVE THAT THOUGHT FROM THE BOARD.

SO THE SYDNEY ACTUALLY MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW WHEN WE HAVE TO GET WHAT WE HAVE TO AND WHAT KIND OF CALLS WOULD WE BE UPSET? OUR PROPERTY TAXES.

NOPE.

YOU KNOW, I, AGAIN, I GUESS I'M, I'M STILL IN A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION NOW.

CAUSE I THOUGHT ONE THING WAS ONE WAY AND NOW I'M SEEING IT A DIFFERENT WAY.

IF THE TRANSACTION IS GOING THROUGH THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, ALDERMAN, AND WE'LL, WE'RE SELLING OUR PROPERTY WHEN WE SELL IT, WE DON'T ADD, I DON'T THINK WE ADD THINGS ONTO IT.

I CAN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER THINGS WE DON'T.

SO I THINK IT'S JUST, YOU GET $2,000 IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DID AND THAT'S WHERE YOU START OR 4,000 WHATEVER.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT, ANY LEGAL FEES WOULD BE THEIR LEGAL FEES TO PREPARE DEEDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO HOW LONG HAS THE UPSET THE PROCESS? 10 DAYS, 10 DAYS.

AND THEN IF THERE'S A BID IT'S 10 DAYS FROM THE NIGHT THAT TRIGGERS AN ADDITIONAL, OKAY, LET'S GET AND SOMETHING TO WORK WITH FRENCH WISE, I HAVE TROUBLE STARTING WITH THIS STANDARD CITY PROPOSAL OF $2 OR 10% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE.

I MEAN, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN PROPERTIES SELL IN THEIR VACANT, LOTS ON THE BIG THING, YOU DON'T GET $4,000 FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS, SPEAK UP AND MARK THE HALF OF THE PRICE.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO GIVE LESS THAN THAT.

AND THAT'S THE MINIMUM BID.

THAT'S A MINIMUM.

NOBODY STEPS UP WITH THAT MINIMUM BID AND IT'S A NO SALE.

NO, HE WOULD.

THE UPSET FIT IS IT'S THIS PERSON'S FIT.

SO THIS PERSON WOULD HAVE TO COME WHERE THEY DEPOSIT CHECK OR 5% MONEY DOWN.

NO, THAT'S THE BIT, THAT'S THE BIT THAT WOULD BE THE BID.

AND THAT WOULD BE HIS BIG, NOT OUR BID THAT WOULD PRODUCE.

I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO KIND OF APPLY 5%, GIVE IT TO THE CITY CLERK.

AND WHEN THE 10 DAYS IS UP, YOU'D HAVE TO COME WITH THE REMAINDER.

AND IF THE PERSON CANNOT OR DOES MAKE SOME DECISION NOT TO

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LOSE THE 5%, IF HE GIVES 5%, HE CAN, I THINK WE CAN REFUNDING.

OKAY.

AND SOMETIMES THE BOARD OF ALL OF THEM, AND I'VE BEEN IN SITUATIONS WHERE THEY DECIDE, WE DON'T WANT TO UPSET THEM.

YOU DON'T WANT TO START THE PROPERTY.

I DON'T THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THIS CASE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT US TO START THE UPSET BID OR WE CAN START UPSET BID, GET THE BIDS.

IT COMES FOR FINAL SALE.

AND WE COULD ALSO, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT SELL.

OKAY, JAMIE, DOESN'T GO BACK TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.

SO WHEN YOU INITIATE AN ACTION AND THEN WHEN IT'S CLOSE ANOTHER ACTION TO, EXCEPT THAT PROCESS STILL STAYS FOR CLARITY.

UH, I THINK WE'RE DIRECTED JEFF AND DEBBIE TO CREATE A RESOLUTION THAT, UH, THAT, UH, RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD THAT WE DISPOSED THAT PROPERTY, THAT WE PUT CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS ON, GO WITH WE'LL LOOK AT IT IN THE RESOLUTION, UH, AND THAT WE WILL FOLLOW THE CITY PROCESS OF, UH, INITIAL BID BEING, HAVING TO BE 50% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE.

OKAY, HERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT.

I THINK WE GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY.

ONE WORD TO

[4. 602 Gaston Blvd: House relocation]

REMEMBER FOR THE AGENDA, WHICH IS 600 TO DESMOND BOULEVARD HOUSE WHERE HE LOCATED SO WE CAN RECEIVE THE AGENT.

DID WE EVER GET ANY HARDER NUMBERS FROM THOSE OTHER FOLK GAVE US THE 27,000 IS FOR SURE IT'S GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME.

THESE GUYS HERE, WE GET ANYTHING.

NO, BUT THEY SAID THEY'LL HAVE IT TO ME BY MONDAY, THEY'RE GOING TO COME VISIT THE PROPERTY.

I'M ASSUMING THEY SAID BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

OKAY.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A ONE REAL QUOTE TO MOVE THE PROPERTY ABOUT $27,000.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT ALL COME BACK TO IF Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, KATE WITH OR WITHOUT THE FIREPLACE, AND THEN WE'LL SET THE HOUSE ON, ON WHITE WILL KIND OF SHOW YOU WHEREVER YOU WANT TO PLACE.

UM, JACK IT UP, LEAVE IT ON LOCK UNTIL FURTHER UNTIL COMMISSIONED COME BACK AND BUILD A FOUNDATION UNDER IT AND RUN UTILITIES WHERE YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S 27,000 ON THAT ONE.

SO THE ONLY LOT THAT WE OWN IS THE CITY, THE CITY, THE COUNTY WORKING ON GETTING THEM TO DONATE IT OVER THERE ON CHURCH STREET.

YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

SO YEAH, SO WE OWN, OH, THIS CITY COUNTY JOINT, THE OWNERS ARE STRICT HERE AND THIS LOT BACK HERE, WHICH IS LARGE ENOUGH TO PUT THAT HOUSE.

THAT HOUSE IS ABOUT 40 FEET, 40 BY 26.

HOW'S THAT? YEAH.

SO IT'S A TOUGH TIME FITTING IT ON A HONEY, UH, LOTS THAT WE, THAT WE OWN IN, UM, IN OTHER PLACES THIS LOT BACK HERE TO PICK IT UP AND PUT IT ON AND IT'S DRY.

IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD, PLAIN.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE THAT, UH, THAT, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE ARE WIDE ENOUGH TO GET IT.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT NARROW RIGHT AWAY.

YEAH.

IT'S 26 FEET IS A 26 FOOT WIDE PARCEL HERE.

THAT'S THE HOME BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY THAT OPENS UP INTO A LARGER,

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I FORGET IT'S LIKE EIGHT AND BY EIGHT YEARS, PRETTY LARGE BACK HERE, THE, THAT THERE'S CERTAIN ISSUES.

OKAY.

FIRST OF ALL, THE PARCEL, THE RIGHT OF WAY IS 26 FEET WIDE.

THE HOUSE IS 26 FEET WIDE.

IF THEY ALL HAVE THAT WAY OVER HERE, IT'S HERE.

IT'S EASIER.

YOU CAN'T GO.

YOU CAN'T GET THAT HOUSE ANYWHERE AND FOCUS EVERYONE.

NO, WE ACTUALLY SENT YOU THE LOCK WHEN YOU BANK STREET THAT WOULD FILL, CAN WE GET IT TO YOU? WELL, THAT'S NOT A MOVEMENT TO GET THERE, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS, THAT THE GET BACK THERE IS 125 FEET THAT NARROW STRIP IS 125 FEET DEEP.

AND I'M THINKING ABOUT UTILITIES AND DRIVEWAY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A RENTAL PROPERTY OUT OF IT.

WE GOT 125 FOOT LONG DRIVEWAY.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN, UH, AND RABIDLY SHORE.

AFTER THE STREET PUT THE 125 FEET, WE PROBABLY ENDED UP WITH PLENTY OF GRAVITY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S THE, DO YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO PULL UP WHO THE OWNER OF 1118 CHURCH STREET IS? THAT WOULD BE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, CORRECT? BLUE.

OH, THAT LITTLE ONE.

THAT LITTLE ONE IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

SO IT'S THAT ONE THERE TO YOUR LEFT.

RIGHT? YOU KNEW THAT ALREADY COME BACK TO THE PICTURES.

SO IT'S, IT'S THAT LITTLE PROPERTY THERE TO THE LEFT.

OKAY.

AND THEN DO IS TO THE LEFT OF THAT.

THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN TOO.

RANDALL RANDALL.

THIS IS NOT HIS OWN WIFE.

SOMEBODY'S AIR, AIR PROPERTY.

THAT'S 10 PEOPLE LIVE WITH.

I KNOW IF I WAS ASKING BECAUSE I THOUGHT SO.

I KNEW WHO THE PREVIOUS OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY AND I THOUGHT THAT HE DID PURCHASE IT.

YEAH.

MAYBE HE WOULD WANT TO SELL, UM, MAYBE A LITTLE A NEW BANKS.

HUH? UH, JEFF, I DID LOOK INTO SANTA CDBG FUNDS TO USE THE MOVEMENT.

UM, I TALKED WITH THE CONSULTANTS AS WELL.

WE CAN'T FIND THE PRECISE LANGUAGE AND THEY TOLD ME YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND IT WHERE IT SAYS YOU CAN MOVE A HOUSE WITH CDBG FUNDS.

BUT THEY SAID THAT THEY DON'T SEE WHY IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE AND IT SHOULD VERY WELL BE ELIGIBLE.

SO THE COURT WAS ALL HOUSE.

SINCE I TALK ABOUT PAYING THIS LAST PIECE OFF, THAT PIECE HAS COME ON.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT'S LIKE SAY IT'S ABOUT 40, ABOUT 20.

YEAH.

NOW WE HAVE A LOT MORE OPTIONS FOR KIDS.

I MEAN, BOTH ALL THESE ROADS.

THEY'RE 27 FEET PORCH, THE PORCH BACK PORCH BEFORE IT, I MEAN, WHEN I WROTE DOWN YOU BACK STREET, I MEAN, CHAPMAN STREETS PROBLEM, BECAUSE THEN YOU GET TO PLAY AND YOU CAN GO IN K EIGHT WIDE ENOUGH TO KNOW, BUT THEN GOING DOWN NEW PATH, THAT IS, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT GREAT, BUT THIS IS ONE LANE TOO BAD.

NO, IT'S NOT.

IT'S OUT OF OUR LAND IS OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN ON EUBANKS.

YEAH.

IT'S OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND THERE'S TWO OR THREE LOCKED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THAT'S CITY COUNTY.

SO THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY PLACE I COULD FIND IT.

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SO GO NORTH, GO UP.

OH YEAH.

THAT'S A NEIGHBOR.

SO FOR EVERY TIME THAT'S, THAT'S THE CITY COUNTY PROPERTY COMING DOWN THROUGH THERE.

THAT'S IT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.

IT WAS 52 FEET WIDE.

YOU BANKS, YOU COME THROUGH THE BACK SIDE OF IT.

IT WAS BEHIND HER THERE.

UM, WHERE IS THAT PARCEL? WHAT STREET IS THAT? JARED IS, YOU MENTIONED THAT'S YOUR HOUSE.

WHERE'S THAT? WHERE'S IT.

THE, UM, MAIN STREET.

SO YOU MAKE A LEFT ON YOU BANKS.

SO GOVERNOR RHODES IS RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S THE OLD SEAFOOD.

OKAY.

YOU BANKS.

OKAY.

PROBABLY BE EASIER FOR US TO CLEAR THAT.

AND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR PIECES ALL CITY COUNTY, AND IT'S ALL OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN TO TERRIBLE.

THERE'S THREE PARCELS THERE.

I'M JUST WONDERING.

SO WHAT'S THE STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THAT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE WIDER AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S K STREET BACK THERE.

AND THAT MIGHT BE TO COME IN THAT BACK WAY.

YEAH.

KATIE'S PRETTY BARE.

AND ON BOTH SIDES ALL THE WAY BACK TO, WE'VE GOT AGAIN BY THIS CORNER.

SO ROUGH CALLING AND YOU GO IN BETWEEN THOSE PLACES RIGHT THERE.

THEY'RE ON MAIN STREET.

SEE THOSE TWO BIG LOTS RIGHT THERE.

IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN COME IN AND GET TO THE PROPERTY THAT WAY? I'M NOT SAYING USE THOSE, BUT YEAH.

UM, BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION IS THESE ARE NUMBERS.

SO IF WE CAN USE CDBG, WHICH NOT GETTING A NO IS YES.

END OF THE DAY, THE COMMISSION WOULD BE ON THE HOOK TO REFUND THAT IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY WEREN'T RPG KEEN TO THE IDEA.

UM, BUT IT'S 27 GRAND AND NOW WE'VE GOT ALREADY HABITABLE.

WE GOT MONEY, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO SPEND FOR REHAB, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY HANDLE THE RELOCATION AND THE REHAB FELT A LITTLE SMOOSHY SPOT, YOU KNOW, IN THE KITCHEN.

BUT OVERALL IT WAS PRETTY SOLID.

AND THEN IT WASN'T LEAKING ON THE ROOF BECAUSE AMAZING.

THE GOOD THING TOO WAS WHEN THEY LIFTED IT UP, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE UNDERNEATH OF IT.

AND WHAT'S GOING ON UNDERNEATH.

YEAH.

HOW FAR IS THAT FROM THE CAR LOCATION? I NOTICED THE PROPOSAL SAID WITHIN A MODEL.

YEAH.

CHRO.

THE WAY I SAW IT, THE EASIEST WAY WAS TO GO STRAIGHT ON DOWN TO GO THROUGH THE PARKING LOT OF STANDARD WHITE.

YEAH.

YOU CAN COME OUT ON CHAT IN THAT WAY WAS A LOT EASIER THAN MAKING THAT DRAWER GO RIGHT THROUGH THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

IN ESSENCE, THERE'S NOTHING THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE EXTENDED.

I'M SURPRISED.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I WAS SURPRISED TOO, BUT I HAD ALICE'S BATCH.

WELL, WE GOT IT RIGHT THERE.

SO YOU CAN TURN AROUND AND LOOK FOR IT.

IT'S GOOD TO GO.

WHAT'S THE ADDRESS ON THAT? ON THE UMASS PARCEL NINE 11 EUBANKS.

THAT'S ACTUALLY REDEVELOPED AND REDEVELOPMENT.

IT'S NOT THE CITY NOW WHERE THEY GET IT.

THEY'RE NOT THE PROPERTY BACK THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

CLEARING TO GET TO THE BACK.

THE LOCK

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MAN WHO OWNS THAT IS THAT WE HAVE HAVING TROUBLE ACCESSING FOOD.

THAT WAY SOMEONE IN DURHAM, I'M NOT SURE, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PULLING THE HOUSE RIGHT THERE.

IT'S A WEBER RONALD WEBER.

THAT THAT IS A WETLAND HOLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE THAT'S NOT GOOD.

NO.

I MEAN, IN THE SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, CLEAR CUTTING IT OR DOING SOMETHING THAT COULD IMPROVE IT TO AS THE BACK PART OF THIS, I'M JUST, I, I DON'T THINK THE VALUE OF THE BIG OLD TREES ARE IN THERE AND SUCK THE WATER OUT OF THE BROWN WORK SIX MONTHS OR NINE MONTHS IN A YEAR, RATHER THAN LETTING IT SIT THERE AND ACCESS THAT.

AND YOU'D HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT, WHICH WOULDN'T BE CHEAP TO HAUL THE TRUCK.

THE WHOLE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET FROM RIGHT UP THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY, LITTLE ROCK WHERE LITTLE ROCK CHURCH IS WHAT SCREWED IS THAT IT'S BEEN THAT CORNER RIGHT THERE.

SHE WAS DANCING IT.

YOU SEE WHERE YOUR CURSOR IS BUILDING EACH THREE H H.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

GO THROUGH THE CHURCH AND THEN GO TO THE CORNER.

I THOUGHT THE CITY OWNED THAT LOT.

COME CLOSER TO EVERY EVERYTHING ALONG CAGE STREET AND THAT AREA, THE ONLY FUCK, THIS IS ALL FLOOD.

NO BY THE CHURCH IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN THE FLOOD PLAIN LITTLE ROCKET THAT THE FLOOD PLAIN IS.

OH, IF YOU COME CLOSER TO THE CORNER, JEFF COME DOWN.

YEAH.

WHAT WERE THOSE TWO LOTS THERE? NO, NO, NO.

ACROSS CROSSHATCHING REDEVELOPMENT, BUT I GUESS IT MAY NOT BE BIG ENOUGH.

AND THE CHURCHES IN THOSE TWO BLOCKS I DON'T KNOW.

WE ONLY OWN THE ONE ON THE CORNER.

NEXT IS MS. GARDNER.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW, FIND OUT, BUT THAT WOULD BE A NICE CORNER.

CAUSE I ASKED WOULD HAVE GOOD STATUTES ON THE CORNER, THE FOOTPRINT ON THE CORNER.

IT IS OURSELVES.

BUT, UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION TO ANSWER NOW IS YOU WANT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD AS THE $27,000 REHAB, WE'LL SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

WE GET ON THAT LOT.

I'LL TALK TO JORDAN ABOUT UTILITIES, JUST KEEP PROCEEDING.

AS WE GET MORE SOLID QUOTES FROM TWO OTHER MOVERS, IT SHOULDN'T CHANGE.

IT'S GOING TO LOOK TO YOU BANKS INSTEAD OF THE OTHER.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S STILL MOVING FORWARD.

I WANT US TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

WE CAN START IN A ONE WEEK HUD PROCESS ON THAT LOCK.

HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE WHILE THEY'RE ALREADY ALLOCATED? UM, BUT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF RED TAPE.

UM, TITLE IS AN ISSUE AND ENVIRONMENTAL IS AN ISSUE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE PILOT'S CLEAR, WHICH IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER PART BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE TITLE IS.

AND WE JUST GOT TO GET UP OR ENVIRONMENTAL, WHICH WE DONE 20 TIMES ALREADY ON OTHER STUFF FOR CDBG STUFF.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE DAN.

WE JUST HAVE TO GET QUOTES ON THE WORK.

YEAH.

WE HAVE TO DO A CONDITION RAPPORT OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, AS WELL AS TAKE, I MEAN, THERE'S A CHECKLIST OF ABOUT 10 ITEMS, BUT THE MAIN THING IS THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN OUR, UH, REHABILITATION BUDGET.

SO WE HAVE TO DETERMINE, UH, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS

[00:45:01]

WE'LL MAKE, HOW MUCH THAT COSTS AND YOU KNOW, WHICH PROGRAM WE MAY PULL FROM BONDS TO COVER ANY GAPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND AT THAT POINT HOME ONLINE, WE ALREADY HAVE A PIPELINE OF PEOPLE WAITING IN MORGAN HILL OVER THERE, WHAT WE'RE REALLY WRESTLING WITH TONIGHT, OBVIOUSLY.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS DO WE THINK THAT THE GASTON AT NEW HOUSE IS WORTH UNDERSTANDING THE TOTAL CALL THE PICTURE OF MOVING IT AND REHABBING IT.

AND WE CAN COME UP WITH A LOCATION THAT WOULD MAKE THAT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT PROBLEM THAT GETS BETTER.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

BUT THE OTHER THING WE HEARD WAS WE GOT MORE QUOTES ON MOVING THE HOUSE, COMING OUT ON MONDAY.

SO WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

UM, BUT AS A GENERAL GUIDANCE TO STAFF, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD PROBABLY WANT THE COMMISSION TO, UH, HAVE THE CONGRESS BEING IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE.

THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT IT'S A WORTHY HOUSE FOR MOVING AND REHABBING AND CREATING A, UH, A RENTAL PROPERTY FOR THE COMMISSION.

I SEE ANY REASON NOT TO PROCEED SO WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT THOSE COSTS.

WE CAN'T SPECULATE UNTIL WE SAY LET'S DO IT AND SEE WHAT THE COST.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

I MEAN, IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN IT'S WORTH, BUT I SUSPECT NOT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD TO, YEAH, IT IS, IT IS THE BEST HOUSE.

WE'VE CLOSED THAT SO FAR BY FAR FOR ME TO MOVE FORWARD, WE JUST COLLECTED MORE INFORMATION.

AND, AND I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO START THE WHOLE PROCESS AND ALL THAT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH IT.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO FIND A PLACE TO PUT IT.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

AND IT IS A GOOD HOUSE AND IT'S MOVING FORWARD FOR COMMISSION.

IT'S STARTING TO POSITIVE IN ALL THE FACTORS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, GOOD HOUSE, WE'VE GOT A LOCK.

THAT'S A POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING TOGETHER A PACKAGE TO GET THE MONEY, TO DO IT PER PERS SQUARED FOR COST PROBABLY WOULD BE WORTH.

I MEAN, IT'S OKAY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S FAMOUS OFF HERE.

IT'S IN THE HEART OF DUFFIELD.

IT'S NOT OUT IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

IT BEST CAN BE DONE.

I THINK THAT, I HOPE THAT WOULD GIVE HOPE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE HOPE WAS THAT PEOPLE WERE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO BE CREATIVE FOLKS THAT WERE RUNNING CONTINUED TO THAT WE'VE INITIATED IMPROVEMENT IN THAT AREA.

AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO THE LIMITS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE HOUSING STOCK IN THAT AREA FROM SOME PERSPECTIVE AND BUILD THAT HOUSE TO THE SAME SCRIPT.

SO WE'LL DO A LOT OF HEADS FOR THE STAFF TO PURSUE GETTING THE FINAL MOVING COSTS.

TELL THEM ANY OF THOSE PERSPECTIVE ADDRESSES.

WE CAN START LOOKING AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO REHAB THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

I WAS IN IT AGAIN YESTERDAY AND IT CONTINUES TO BE A NICE HOUSE.

I THINK THAT WILL WORK FOR US.

AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT WITH THE CHIMNEY.

I CAN'T IMAGINE CREATING A RENTAL HOUSE WITH A FIREPLACE IN IT.

SO WE'LL COME BACK WITH HOPEFULLY SOME SOLID NUMBERS, DEPENDING ON THE RESPONSES FROM THE MOVERS, ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY SAYING THE SAME THING, WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THE

[00:50:01]

LONGEST ONE AND PROCEED FROM THERE.

UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND IT TO GET THAT THE HOUSING WORK GROUP TO GO LOOK AT THIS HOUSE FIRST WITH THAT.

AND SO WE CAN COME UP WITH A LIST OF WHAT WE THINK WE NEED TO DO TO HELP MAKE IT FOR THE PROCESS WE GOT TO GO THROUGH.

OKAY.

THE SECOND POSITIVE THING WE'VE DONE.

WELL, WE'VE GOT

[5. Committee Updates]

COMMITTEE UPDATES IS THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

UH, JEFF, YOUR NAME'S ON HERE AGAIN.

IT IS, ISN'T IT? YEAH.

UM, SO FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD STANDPOINT, Y'ALL HAVE THE SUMMARY REPORT OF OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION A COUPLE WEEKS BACK, AND HE GAVE US A 12 MONTH ACTION PLAN, THINGS THAT WE, WE DECIDED TO WORK ON FOR EACH SUB COMMITTEE.

SO WE'LL BE PULLING THE SUBCOMMITTEES TOGETHER, UM, AND I'LL BE DOING A MUCH MORE FOCUSED EFFORT ON THAT.

AND, UH, AND UPDATING THE BOARD PERIODICALLY ON WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THESE GOALS FOR THIS YEAR? SO NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A, UH, A LARGER, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST CLEANING UP PUBLIC WORKS ANYMORE.

WE GET A LOT MORE INVOLVED.

THE ASIA IS WE'RE GONNA ATTEMPT TO PARTNER WITH HABITAT WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR CLEAN UP ON GOLD BORROWER, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BUILD OFF OF THAT EFFORT TO CREATE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CLEAN UP, MAKE IT MORE OF A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORT.

LIKE WE ORIGINALLY VISIONED AND MOVE FORWARD THAT, BUT BEYOND THAT, WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY STRIDES IN SETTING UP DATES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, UM, WHERE HE HAS BEEN THROUGH THE VISION ON HOW THE LETTER TALK HOUSING.

UM, I HAD A MEETING WITH, UM, CAN YOU PRONOUNCE HIS NAME, LEON CALLED UP, UM, WHO, WHO GINA.

I WANT TO SAY DEVELOPERS, UH, MARYLAND, UM, ON A RECOMMENDATION FROM, UM, ALTHOUGH WOMEN HARRIS, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MEET WITH HIM FOR MONTHS NOW.

UM, THE COVID AND, UH, AND COMMISSIONER SAMSON PASSING, UM, WE'VE, HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HOOK UP, FINALLY MET UP WITH HIM LAST WEEK.

UM, SPEND A QUARTER THE THREE-QUARTERS OF THE DAY WITH HIM WALK AND WE WENT AND DROVE TO THE ENTIRE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, UM, PROBABLY ONE AND A HALF TIMES.

AND OUR GOALS FOR, UM, OUR GOALS AS A COMMISSION OR THIS GOAL AS A COMPANY ARE VERY MUCH ALIGNED IN THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT A BUILDER PER SE, COMMUNITY BUILDER STARTS WITH PEOPLE AND ENDS WITH PRODUCT.

UM, HE REALLY HAS A PASSION FOR BUILDING UP PEOPLE AND CREATING KIND OF A PATHWAY TO GENERATIONAL WEALTH, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO HE IS WORKING ON AN, UM, AND JAMIE AND I ARE REVIEWING, GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH HIM ON HOW WE CAN JUST TAKE THE FIRST STEPS TOGETHER WITH HIM, UM, AND BRING HIM IN TO DO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THAT WE ENVISION FIRST AVENUE EFFORT IN THAT, UH, BRING HIM IN, ENGAGE IN COMMUNITY, TALK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PRODUCT WE SHOULD BE BUILDING, WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT ALSO TALK ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, BUILDING UP THE PEOPLE OF FINANCIAL LITERACY, UH, THE HOUSING, UM, COUNSELING, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, JOB TRAINING, ALL THOSE, UM, ALL THAT STUFF THAT BUILDS UP PEOPLE.

SO KIND OF BRING THAT ALL TOGETHER.

AND, UM, AND THIS, OUR FIRST KIND OF ATTEMPT AT REIMAGINING WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR PRODUCT WILL LOOK LIKE, AND IT REALLY SAVAGE THE BRANDS.

WHAT WE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE, AND, YOU KNOW, W WHAT DO WE WANT, WHAT DO YOU WANT THIS EFFORT TO BE AND EXIST IN AND GIVE IT A BRAND? UM, SO HE'S GOT SOME GREAT IDEAS ON THAT.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

AND WHILE YOU GET THAT, WE'LL GET HIM DOWN HERE, ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, UM, ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, ESSENTIALLY HE IS A BUILDER AND WE ARE SLATING, UH, HOPEFULLY PARTNERING WITH HIM TO BUILD THE 17 TO 20 UNITS THAT WE'VE PRETTY MUCH HAVE READY TO GO RIGHT NOW, IF WE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO DO IT, WE HAVE ENOUGH LAND TO DO IT IN THE RIGHT SPOTS, IF YOU WOULD CONFIGURATIONS.

UM, SO WE'LL BE WORKING, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AS FAR AS, AND ALSO JOHN SAY ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HEALTH WELLNESS COMPONENT

[00:55:01]

IN THAT BUILDING, BUT ABSOLUTELY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE OTHER WELLNESS COMMITTEE, UM, AND YEAH, WE W HE BROUGHT UP SPECIFIC MISSION.

I KNOW THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HE DOES TOO, AND HE REALLY DID TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH, UH, BRINGING HEALTH IN THE COMMUNITY, THE MOBILE UNITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU BROUGHT THAT UP JUST IN CONVERSATION.

I HAVE AN IDEA NOW, LIKE, YEAH, WE, WE GOT ALL THAT IN CASE OF BUILDERS, THEY, IF ANY BELL PLAYS FOR A COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER IN SOME OF HIS CONSTRUCTION.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S MONEY FOR, UM, ABSOLUTELY GOLF IS JUST A SIDE NOTE ON THE COMMUNITY WE'VE BEEN WORKING, JAMIE PROBABLY KNOW AS MUCH MORE DETAILS THAN I DO ON THIS IS THE MCCARTER HOUSE AND TRYING TO CHANGE THE, WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS.

IT'S NOT REALLY LOOKING VERY POSITIVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UM, LET'S TALK DID FINALLY GET IN TOUCH WITH SOMEONE WHO KNEW AT LEAST WHO TO TALK TO, UM, ON, ON HOW TO DO THAT, BUT REALLY IT'S TAKEN HIM PROBABLY FIVE MONTHS JUST TO GET TO SOMEONE WHO EVEN ON A PHONE CALL.

SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THAT MCCARTER HOUSE IS A POLICE SUBSTATION, THAT IF IT RUNS A HEALTH CLINIC OUT OF IT ONE A WEEK, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A BIG DEAL OR NOT, BUT JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE MCCARTER HOUSE, UNLESS JAMIE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT RESTED VERSUS UP IN POLICE UNIFORM? I KNOW THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, WE OPERATED FOR 12 YEARS AS A COMMUNITY CENTER.

I CAME DOWN AND THE MARSHALL DIDN'T COME AND SHUT US DOWN.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

I'M STILL PRETTY, I STILL BELIEVE THAT WE'LL GET THERE AND MAKE IT MAKE SENSE FROM A RATIONAL STANDPOINT TO ADD A FEW USES TO THAT.

BUT CIRCLE BACK TO DARREN CALDWELL, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, THE NEXT MEETING I'M HOPEFULLY THAT HE CAN COME AND SIT WITH US AND, UH, PRESENT HIS IDEAS AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.

WE HAVE, OUR GOALS ARE ALIGNED, LIKE I SAID EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING AND HE WAS BRINGING UP THINGS, UM, I SAID, HE GOT WHAT WE'RE DOING, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

AND HE WAS REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH A GROUP THAT, UH, THAT THE GOALS OF ALL OF OUR, OUR COMMISSION ARE VERY MUCH ALIGNED WITH, UH, HIS, HIS GOALS AS A, AS A COMMUNITY BUILDER.

AND HE HAS EXPERIENCE DOING IT.

AND HE'S VERY, VERY, VERY, WELL-VERSED IN FUNDING SOURCES FROM A FEDERAL AND STATE.

THAT'S THE REAL THAT HE'S VERY CONFIDENT, UM, ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING OUT OF WASHINGTON TO DO EXACTLY THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

AND HE'S REALLY INTERESTED IN REALLY BRINGING TECHNOLOGY AND KIND OF TECHNOLOGICAL TRAINING INTO TREATMENT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T FOCUSED ON, BUT OBVIOUSLY A GOOD THING.

AND, UH, THE BOARD IS WORKING WITH ANOTHER PROVIDER OF INTERNET SERVICES THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO WORK WITH AS THEY'VE SHOWN AN INTEREST IN SERVING UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES WHO MAY BE ABLE TO, YEAH, IT'S ALL GOOD.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO USE OUR FIRST STREET PROJECT AS A, YOU KNOW, GET THAT BROADBAND PASS INTRANET FOR THE CITY.

IT'S A REAL POSSIBILITY.

UM, SO A LOT OF STUFF I'VE ALSO, I'VE HAD, I'M TRYING TO CALL WITH DR.

CALDWELL AS WELL.

SO I'VE HAD SOME TIME WITH HIM AND I THINK HE WOULD BE A REAL ASSET TO THIS GROUP.

I'M GLAD WE CAN FIND A WAY TO WORK ON THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE TALK EVERY OTHER DAY, AGAIN, PEOPLE FIND A WAY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT.

YEAH.

UM, SO WE ARE PISSED.

UM, WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A LULL, UM, IN HEALTH, BUT, UH, I HAD A MEETING ON MONDAY WITH DR.

BRIDGES AND DR.

LIVINGSTON, UM, CRYSTAL TAYLOR, WHO'S HELPING SHE'S DOES THE ADMINISTRATIVE WORK, UM, FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

AND SO WE'RE STILL, I MIGHT HAVE, I HAD NEVER SPOKEN WITH ARTHUR BEFORE, SO, UH, THEY WANT TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT SOMETHING, UM, TO ME BURN A LAYING OUT, UM, HAVING THAT, UM, LECTURE SERIES.

UM, I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN ANY BUSINESS.

UM, MARCH 11TH, TOMORROW, I'M HAVING A PLANNING MEETING FOR THE PLANT BASED COOKING DEMONSTRATION.

THAT'LL BE AT THE CANCER CENTER KITCHEN.

AND SO WE'RE JUST STARTING TO EXPLORE THAT AND WHAT THAT'LL LOOK LIKE, UM, FOR MAY, AND THEN NEXT STEPS

[01:00:01]

I JUST LISTED IS AGAIN, HAVING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE MOBILE HEALTH CLINIC, MORE INTENTIONAL, UM, AND SOME JEFF AND I, I THINK WE'LL SIT DOWN AND SET THAT UP, CORRECT? CORRECT.

YUP.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN EMAILING BACK AND FORTH, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, JOHN AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY.

AND ALSO ONE OTHER THING IS THAT'S DONE.

I JUST TALKED ABOUT, UM, THIS AFTERNOON WAS HAVING, I GUESS, MORE OF A CONSISTENT MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH PASTOR THOMAS, BECAUSE HE SEEMED TO HAVE A GOOD PULSE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND SO WE WILL, UM, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[6. Old Business ]

OH, BUSINESS.

YEAH, THAT ONE, I DON'T KNOW.

THIS IS WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE COUNTY CITY OWNERSHIP WITH ONE OF THE, TWO OF THE PARTS OF WHAT SPECIFICALLY, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO GET TRANSFERRED TO US? I DO NOT KNOW, BUT I CAN CHECK MY HE'S GOT TO RELINQUISH.

DOES ANY OF THEM ON THE LIST OR WHATEVER.

AND THEN THEY'VE GOT TO DECIDE THAT THEY'LL RELINQUISH THE MONEY'S DUE ON THAT TO THE CITY THAT TAKES TIME AND WRITTEN PAPERWORK TOGETHER.

THEN ONCE THEY DO, THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO COME TO THE BOARD.

SO AS FAR AS THE DATE, I DON'T HAVE THE PROCESSES, RIGHT.

THEIR ATTORNEY HAS TO CALL THEIR ATTORNEY.

IF WE MEET TO HAVE A MEETING TO HAVE A MEETING, RIGHT.

THAT'S ONE OF THOSE JAMIE, I HAVEN'T HAPPENING.

UH IT'S YEAH.

YOU LOOK AT THE MAPS AND YOU'RE KIND OF , THEY'RE SO FAR OUT TIME-WISE WE JUST IGNORE THEM.

BUT, UH, THERE WAS THE BETTER PROPERTY, UH, IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

THAT WAS A THING YESTERDAY.

I HAD MY FIRST CONVERSATION WITH THE NEW COMMISSIONER B SMITH, WHO IS THE ONE WHO REPLACED, UM, COMMISSIONER SAMSON.

SO THAT IS HER, HER DISTRICT.

UH, OUR REDEVELOPMENT AREA IS WITHIN HER, HER DISTRICT.

AND I ASKED TO SET UP A MEETING WITH HER TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE COULD WORK TOGETHER.

SO THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE THINGS.

IF SHE COULD, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD TO HER MORE TO SAY, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, RELINQUISH THESE PROPERTIES AND LET THEM BECOME A PARTNER WITH US AND TRYING TO REDEVELOP, REDEVELOP THAT AREA.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SHOW IS THAT THESE ARE PARTNERSHIPS, NOT ONE GROUP WORKING FOR THE OTHER.

IT'S JUST, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US TO GET IT DONE.

SO I'LL CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT.

AND THE OTHER WHOLE BUSINESS JUST ON, ON THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION, THIS WAS GOING TO BE OUR MARCHING ORDERS FOR THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.

UM, SO SPEND SOME TIME OUTLINING ALL THE SETTING, I'LL BE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SETTING UP MEETINGS AND FOLLOWING THROUGH AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PUTTING ACTION TO WORDS, TO GET ALL THIS STUFF DONE.

UM, SO GO OVER IT.

UM, IN YOUR OWN MIND OUTLINE IT, WE'LL BE SETTING UP MORE, UM, JUST THE MEETING, UH, CONSISTENT TIME AROUND GETTING EVERYBODY TOGETHER ON CERTAIN DAYS IS TRYING TO DO FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

BUT, UM, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

SO KEEP IT, I'LL SEND YOU AN ELECTRONIC COPY AND, UH, THIS IS WHAT WE'LL BE DOING.

EXCITING STUFF.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT IT'S PRODUCTIVE AND STRATEGIC.

LIKE JEFF SAYS, THIS IS, THIS IS A ONE-YEAR PLAN OF ACTION.

WE NEED TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I REALLY KNOW WHAT I, UH, JUST GOT IT THIS MORNING AND I NEEDED TO REVIEW IT BEFORE I SENT IT OUT AND I DIDN'T GET TIME TO LAY IT, SO I PRINTED IT OUT, BUT I'LL SEND IT OUT.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THE LAST MINUTE, LAST MEETING MINUTES, I HAVE JOHN YOUNG AS PRESENT AND AFTER, SO WHICH ONE WORKS?

[7. New Business]

OKAY.

NEW BUSINESS.

I THINK I HAVE.

YEAH.

UM, SO I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO MY CONVERSATION ON MONDAY WITH DR.

.

I ENDED UP WITH LIVINGSTON FROM NCU ABOUT

[01:05:01]

REVISITING THAT LECTURE SERIES.

UM, AND I MAYBE THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO JEFF ABOUT THIS AND I SUGGESTED EXAM AND THEY WANTED TO COMMENT.

MAYBE YOU SPEAK TO THE PERMISSION DIRECTLY.

UM, SO WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION.

MAYBE YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE QUESTIONS.

UM, AND SO I HAVE RESPONDED TO THEM AND IT WAS A VERY ROBUST CONVERSATION.

IT WAS GREAT.

WE WERE VERY, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR A WHILE.

AGAIN, I HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO TALK TO THAT PREFERRED USE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HE WAS VERY, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT DOING THIS.

UM, AND THEN I COULD MAYBE READ ONCE WE HAVE A COMFORT WITH PRESENTING INFORMATION, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAYBE, UH, JEFF, AS JEFF HAD MENTIONED, IT COULDN'T, IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE VIRTUAL NECESSARILY WOULD WORK, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PANDEMIC AND MAYBE WE COULD DO IT IN PERSON, BUT IT'S A CONVERSATION GET HAVE.

AND I JUST, UM, I FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN WHAT OUR GOALS WERE FOR THE STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, THE GENERATIONAL HEALTH, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING OF OUR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT JOHN AND I, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH TYPE AND TALKING ABOUT IS THAT BRIDGE BUILDING AND BUILDING TRUST AND MAYBE REACHING PEOPLE, UM, MORE INTENTIONALLY.

SO, AND THEN FINDING OUT AND ASSESSING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU NEED? I MEAN, I, I STILL DON'T REALLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY FEEDBACK ON, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AT YOUR AGREEMENT WITH THIS, BUT IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF MAYBE GETTING INTO THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT BRIDGE BUILDING.

SO THAT IS GOING TO BE EITHER, I DON'T KNOW.

I GAVE HIM TWO DAYS.

YEAH, APRIL, I THINK IT WAS APRIL.

SO I'M, I'M WAITING FOR HER BACK AND CRYSTAL IS COMING TO HAVE A LOCK ON NEXT WEEK.

SO WE MIGHT JUST MEET UP AND, UM, AND TALK.

SO THAT'S UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? UM, THE MOBILE, OUR LAST CONVERSATION ON THE MOBILE HEALTH CLINIC WAS, WELL, I TALKED TO DR.

FISHER, SO, UM, AND IT WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT FEELING JAY BROUGHT THAT UP.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT MORNING, SO I CAN'T COMMIT TO SAYING YES, BUT I'M THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, MS. LEE SAID THAT THERE HAD BEEN FUNDING IN THE PAST.

RIGHT.

YOU MENTIONED THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOW THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WITH DR.

CALDWELL SAID, AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT NCC HAS TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST.

I ASKED DR.

LIVINGSTON IN MY EMAIL, YOU KNOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR SUCCESSES HAVE BEEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE GOTTEN FUNDING, UM, IN OTHER COUNTIES IN NORTH CAROLINA, I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THAT.

AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE EXACTLY HOW, AGAIN, UM, THAT COLLECTION WILL BE, BUT JOHN, I DID ASK FOR THE DATA COLLECTION, UM, BUT ALSO THE CONNECTION WITH PEOPLE, THAT'S JUST ONE WAY OF DOING IT AND HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

SO YEAH.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THEM COMING? YES.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR THEM TO COME BECAUSE THEN IT LISTENS QUESTIONS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

THEY CAN ASK DIRECTLY.

I THINK THAT'S IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ONGOING, UM, PARTNERSHIP AND, YOU KNOW, OUR GROUP HEALTH AND WELLNESS, WE HAVEN'T REALLY MET THE CORNERS, BUT ALL THESE PROJECTS KIND OF BRING US ALL TOGETHER.

UM, AND YET, UH, COMMISSIONER VSAM, IF I HAPPENED TO MEET HER WHEN WE WERE DOING SOME WORK ON FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE, ON A PROJECT OF THE VACCINE AND SHE WAS REALLY INVOLVED AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE NICE, UM, YOU KNOW, A NICE PARTNERSHIP FOR US, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN BRING HER INTO HEALTH AND WELLNESS AS WELL, BECAUSE IT'S, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS A COUNTY ENTITY, SO, YEAH.

OKAY.

SO I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED, I'LL SPEAK TO DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, WHAT DATE AND, UM, CAUSE WE SEEM LIKE WE HAVE BUSY AGENDAS COMING UP AND UM, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THAT TAKES CARE OF OUR AGENDA FOR THE EVENING.

UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY FINAL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS BEFORE WE, UH, THINK ABOUT A JOURNEY BEFORE WE ADJOURN? DO WE WANT TO DO OKAY NOW I'LL JUST MENTION, UM, WE CONTINUE MAKING A PROGRESS WITH, UH, THE CITY'S RESILIENCE HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN.

UM, WE HAD STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS THEN FEBRUARY, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING.

UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO GATHER SOME INPUT AND DO SOME CROWDSOURCING WHERE POSSIBLE AND CONTINUING TO ENGAGE, UH, WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, WHICH WILL RESULT IN THE RESILIENCY PLAN, UM, WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ASIAN PROJECTS, AS WELL AS, UM, THE, UM, POLICY CHANGES AND, YOU KNOW, LARGE SCALE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT COULD BE RECOMMENDED AS WELL AS SMALLER, MORE FEASIBLE, UM, PROGRAMS AS WELL.

SO, UH, THANK YOU KIM, FOR PARTICIPATING

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IN, IN OTHERS, WE HAD GOOD PARTICIPATION FROM FEDERAL STATE AND LOCAL ENTITIES.

WE INVITED INDIVIDUALS FROM VARIOUS DIFFERENT GROUPS AND NON-PROFITS AND INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO WE WERE PLEASED WITH THAT.

WE'VE ALSO HAD ANOTHER PHONE CALL WITH THE NORTH CAROLINA OFFICE OF RECOVERY AND RESILIENCY TO SEE WHERE THEY STAND WITH THEIR PROGRAMS. AND, UM, WE'LL BE HAVING SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS AS FAR AS WHAT THEY WILL BE PLANNING TO SET UP AS FAR AS HOUSING INITIATIVES, IT'S IN THEIR ACTION PLAN, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR TO US AT THIS POINT, UM, HOW THAT TRANSLATES INTO POTENTIAL FUNDING OR SUPPORT FOR OUR EFFORTS.

SO WE HOPE THAT OUR NEXT PHONE CALLS WILL BE MUCH MORE FRUITFUL.

SO, UH, AGAIN, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR NEEDS MORE INFORMATION, UM, ABOUT ANY OF THESE INITIATIVES, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME.

UM, AND I'LL, I'LL CONTINUE TO SHARE WITH YOU AS WELL.

SO AMAZON FRIDAY, WHICH IS THE RESULT OF A MEETING THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK WITH FOUR, WITH FOUR OTHER DIVISIONS IN THAT LAST MEETING THAT WE HAVE, THAT DIDN'T GO VERY WELL.

UM, SO NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING AND DR.

CALDWELL WILL BE SITTING IN WITH US ON THAT ONE ALSO TO TALK ABOUT THEIR HOUSING PLAN, UM, WITH ENCOR AND THEIR FUNDING.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE UPFRONT AND CENTER BY WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO TRY TO HELP US IMPLEMENT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

SO THAT WILL BE ON FRIDAY AT 11.

I MEAN, I THINK THE QUESTION, SO THERE WAS AN EMAIL, UM, I FORGET, WAS IT ZILLOW? IS THAT ANN CALLING, ASKING THE BIG, SHE WAS ASKING HIM FOR SOMETHING AS FAR AS THE TECHNOLOGY QUESTION, I'M ASSUMING, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHO ANSWERED IT OR, UM, SO A LOT OF THE ENTITIES WE'RE WORKING WITH ARE ORGANIZATIONAL ENTITIES.

SO THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO SHARE, UH, THE GIS TOOL, WHERE ESPECIALLY FROM A MORE TECHNICAL SAME THREE PEOPLE CAN GIVE SOME FEEDBACK TO CERTAIN AREAS THAT THEY IDENTIFY AS PROBLEM AREAS AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE DOING.

UM, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY APPLICABLE TO EVERY SINGLE STAKEHOLDER.

WE'LL STILL GATHER OTHER INFORMATION FROM RESIDENTS AND OTHERS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

UM, BUT THAT'S A WAY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MORE TECHNICALLY INVOLVED IN, IN, YOU KNOW, USING THE DATA OR, YOU KNOW, ANALYZING DATA IN THEIR OWN, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR OWN CAREERS, UM, TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION WITH US AND WE'RE JUST, UM, WORKING REALLY HARD, UM, TO ALIGN WHAT WE'RE DOING TO TRY TO BE INCORPORATED IN ANY FEDERAL OR STATE PLANS AS WELL.

WE'VE BEEN HAVING REALLY GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO ARE DOING A MULTI-YEAR STUDY, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE OTHER STATE ENTITIES DIVISION OF COASTAL MANAGEMENT, ET CETERA.

SO, UM, THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL THINGS THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY SPEAK TO EVERYONE, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY, BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY SETS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF IT'S SOMETHING TOTALLY FOREIGN TO ME, SO YEAH, WE'RE ALSO KIND OF TWEAKING, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE HAVE IS PROTECTED OR, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPRIETARY.

SO WE'RE ALSO FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN PACKAGE NO ONE BACK OR WIDESPREAD CONSUMPTION AS WELL.

OKAY.

JIM, YOU HAVE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.