[1. 6:00pm: Welcome and roll call]
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[2. Public Comment]
MR. MORENO IS COMING TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT UPDATES.WE HAVE JUNE, UH, T GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
I AM FILLING IN FOR SELENA MASSEY.
SHE AND I WORKED TOGETHER WITH PROJECT RESTORE, AND I'M ALSO ONE OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBERS FOR YUP.
SO, AND I ALSO DO A LOT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING FOR PROJECT RESTORE AND THE EDUCATIONAL PART FOR JUNETEENTH.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO JUST TOUCH BASES WITH YOU ABOUT OUR JUNE 10TH WEEK.
IT IS, IT IS KICKING OFF THIS FRIDAY.
UM, JUST TO RUN OVER, I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO RUN BY YOU GUYS REGARDING THE WEEK.
SO YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING EACH DAY.
UM, SO FAR, AND FORGIVE ME IF I SQUINT, CAUSE I BROKE MY GLASSES THIS MORNING, BUT FOR SOME OF Y'ALL DON'T KNOW WHAT JUNE IS JUNE 19TH AND 1865 IN GALVESTON, TEXAS, THE UNION WENT TO GO AND OF COURSE THEY WERE GOING TO CAPTURE THE STATE.
AND THEN THEY ALSO WERE GOING TO MAKE SURE TO TELL ALL THE SLAVES, INDIVIDUALS AND SLAVE FAMILIES THAT THEY WERE FREE.
THEY WERE THE LAST SECTION OF THE COUNTRY TO KNOW THAT THEY WERE STILL TECHNICALLY FREE.
SO, UM, WE HONORED JUNE 10TH AS IT IS AT THIS POINT.
A LOT OF STATES HAVE ADOPTED IT.
HE POPULATED IT FOR US IN 20 $19 THERE FOR THAT.
UM, THAT IS MY, THAT WAS THE PROUDEST DAY.
I STILL, I GO TO SLEEP WITH THAT LITTLE PART PERMISSION THING.
UM, AND IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE IT AND ALSO RAN IT BY THE COUNTY AS WELL.
SO TO READ THROUGH JUST THE WEEK ITSELF, UM, BEAR WITH, CAUSE IT IS PAT, I'M GOING TO JUST TELL YOU WHAT THE CS ARE CALENDAR ON.
UM, WE HAVE ON JUNE 11TH IS THE ART WALK.
UM, IT IT'S POSTED BY THE CRAVEN ARTS COUNCIL THAT GO ON THE MIDDLE STREET.
IT STARTS FROM AT FIVE AND ENDS AT EIGHT.
UM, SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THE ARTS PARK, YOU CAN DEFINITELY ATTEND THAT.
UM, AND ON JUNE 11TH THROUGH THE 13TH, WE HAVE THE SAME COFA MUSICAL REVIEW AND I WAS TOLD THEY ARE ACTUALLY PRACTICING AND GETTING READY FOR THAT.
UM, AND IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE AT SEVEN 30 AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO DO ONE IT'S AT 2:00 PM, ONE ON THE 11TH, 12TH, AND 13TH, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE AT THE CIVICS CENTER AND THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY HISTORICAL.
I THINK I'M SAYING IT RIGHT, BUT IF I'M NOT CORRECTLY, THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY OF CULTURE GROUP IS GOING TO SPONSOR THAT AND THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T GET ME FOR THAT.
BUT ON, UM, JUNE 10TH, WE ARE ALSO DOING OUR JUNETEENTH PRAYER AND FELLOWSHIP THAT IS GOING TO BE AT 10:00 AM AT TRINITY CHAPEL AME ZION ON 1208 BROAD STREET ON THE 14TH IS THE JUNE TEAM WE KICK OFF AND WE HAVE OUR PODCAST THAT IS GOING TO BE ON, ON THE PODCAST FOR NEW NOW.
UM, AND THAT WILL BE WITH PROJECT RESTORE AND THAT'LL START AT 7:00 PM.
SO IF YOU WANT TO TAP INTO THAT AND LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT WE FEEL IN OUR FEELINGS AND HOW WE SHARE JUNETEENTH WITH THE CULTURE, PLEASE TUNE IN ON JUNE 15TH, WE HAVE THE FITNESS WITH FRIENDS IN THE PARK THAT WILL BE FROM SIX TILL 8:00 PM, AND IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, AT FORT TOTTEN PARK.
SO IF ANYBODY WANT TO COME OUT AND WORK OUT AND SWEAT A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE FEEL FREE.
AND ON JUNE 16TH, THAT IS MY FAVORITE DAY.
IT IS HPC DAY FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT, WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH HDC VIEW THAT IT'S HISTORICAL BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.
UM, I WILL BE DOING A DISCUSSION FORUM HOSTED BY MYSELF, ALONG WITH NICHOLAS GREEN, WHO IS A HISTORY TEACHER ALONG WITH TAURUS WILLIAMS, WHO IS THE COMMUNITY, MY GUY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE ALL WILL BE DISCUSSING WITH THE YOUTH, UM, THE PERSPECTIVE OF HPC AND WHY SUPPORT, UM, AND ON JUNE.
AND THAT WOULD BE AT THE VILLAGE ON BROAD STREET, WHICH IS RIGHT OUT THERE.
AND THE VILLAGE SAYS BEEN PAINTED.
SO WE'LL HAVE FOOD AND WE'LL GO FROM SIX TO EIGHT, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY GET THROUGH BECAUSE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL WANT TO GO OUTSIDE AFTER ABOUT AN HOUR.
UM, AND ON THE 17TH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN LECTURE SERIES THAT IS GOING TO BE AT TRON POLICY.
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AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO REGISTER, IF YOU, IF YOU ARE AWARE YOU CAN, UM, REGISTER@CRYSTALDOTELDRIDGEATNCDCR.GOV, OR YOU CAN CALL 2 5 2 6 3 9 3 5 1 12.AND DON'T WORRY, I'M GOING TO LEAVE YOU ALL WITH THE ADDRESS, THE WEBSITE, SO THAT YOU CAN GO ON AND FIND ALL THIS STUFF.
I'M JUST READING IT OFF VERBATIM.
AND ON THE 18TH, IT IS THE ROOFTOP, UM, PREMIERE CELEBRATION PARTY THAT THE YOUNG URBAN PROFESSIONALS AT BNC IS THROWING.
UM, IT IS AT THE ALBOURNE CREEK BUILDING A CHIEF BUILDING, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ON 4 0 5 LITTLE STREET.
SO WE HAVE THE TOP AND THE BOTTOM.
IT IS HOSTED BY EUROPE, BUT WE WILL HAVE CHEF CHEF SMOKE.
WE HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS GOING ON, UM, GIVEAWAYS AND SOME TABLES, SOCIAL STUFF, BUT ON JUNE 19TH, WE WILL ALSO, THAT IS THE JUNETEENTH FESTIVAL THAT IS GOING TO BE AT 10:00 AM.
WE'RE GOING TO DO THE HISTORICAL SIGN DEDICATION AT 11 IS THE WALKING PARADE, WHICH ALL OF YOU ARE MUST KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE THE MARINE CORPS BANK.
THEY WILL BE FOLLOWING US IN THE STREET.
WE GO WALK, UM, AND FROM 12 TO 8:00 PM IS THE FESTIVAL HOURS, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ALL HAVE VENDORS.
AND IF WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR VENDORS, SO IF YOU GUYS KNOW ANYBODY WHO SOLD CLOTHES, JEWELRY, CRAFTS, THEY STILL HAVE TIME TO SIGN UP.
UM, AND THAT'D BE IN THE FIVE POINTS COMMUNITY AS WELL.
AND ON THE 20TH, THAT IS OUR PRAYER WALK.
UM, THAT IS WHEN WE CLOSE OUT OUR JUNETEENTH WEEK.
AND, UH, THAT WALK WILL BE ON AT 1:00 PM ON SIMMONS AND BROAD STREET, BROAD STREET, CHRISTIAN CHURCH, AND FIVE TO SEVEN IS THE GOSPEL PROGRAM.
THAT'S HOSTED BY MS. SIMMONS AND AT THAT'LL BE AT THE OMEGA CENTER AND AT SEVEN 30, WE WILL HAVE THE, UH, MOFFA PRAYER AND WRAP UP AT UNION POINT PARK.
SO THAT IS THE CONCLUSION OF OUR JUNETEENTH WEEK.
UH, IF YOU WANT TO, UM, IF YOU DO WANT TO LEARN MORE, THE WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN GO TO IS JUNETEENTH OF NEWBURN.COM AND YOU CAN FIND ALL OF OUR EVENTS OUT ON THERE.
YOU CAN GO AND, UH, ACTUALLY DONATE ON THAT WEBSITE TO OUR EVENT AND OUR CALLS.
SO WE UP DOESN'T DO ANY OF THAT.
WE DON'T, THAT'S NOT A YACHT THING, JUNE 10TH COMMITTEE THING.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[4. Presentation: By Michael S. Cole Sr., of ColeJenest & Stone Bolton & Menk, Inc. on Redevelopment Options for 925 Broad St Property (Former Days Hotel Site)]
FOR THE PAINTING BY MICHAEL, UH, FROM THE SENIOR STAFF, WHAT WE SAY WE CAN GET STARTED.UM, I'LL JUST INTRODUCE A APPROACH TO CARE AND I GET THE THOUGHT PROCESS ROLLING ON WHAT A REBOUND THE PLANS FOR THE DAYS.
UM, WENT THROUGH A FEW ITERATIONS BASED ON SOME OF THE DIRECT BY THE BOARD AND ALL THAT INFORMATION TO US.
AND YOU TALK ABOUT LIKE, I GUESS, THANK YOU TOO.
UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS MICHAEL COLE.
UM, WE MOVED BACK HERE IN 2016.
UM, MY WIFE IS A SEVENTH GENERATION JONES COUNTY GIRL, UH, PLAYED FOOTBALL AT JUNIOR SENIOR, AND WE WERE HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEARTS.
SHE WENT TO NURSING SCHOOL, I WENT TO ARCHITECTURE SCHOOL AND WE ENDED UP COMING BACK AND SHE'S, WE LIVE IN THE HOUSE THAT HER FATHER WAS BORN IN HER GRANDFATHER ON AND ON.
SO I LIVE NEARBY, BUT I'M FROM RALEIGH.
UM, BUT I KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE AREA.
I KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE NEWBURN AREA IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE WE CAME HERE ON WHEN WE WERE DATING.
UM, AND WE WENT TO SOME PLACES THAT WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO GO.
UH, ONE OF THEM WAS CALLED THE LANTERN.
SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THAT WE'VE
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DONE AWAY.AND, UM, ODDLY ENOUGH, UM, I STARTED A FIRM CALLED COLGIN ESTON STONE IN 1988.
I'D WORKED FOR A LARGE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM FOR 10 YEARS.
BEFORE THAT WE OPENED AN OFFICE IN RALEIGH IN 2005, AND I MOVED TO RALEIGH TO HELP GET THAT OFFICE GOING WHILE MY CHILDREN I'VE GOT AN ARCHITECT SON AND AN OLDER SON WHO'S IN THE BUSINESS WORLD, THEY WERE IN GRAD SCHOOL.
SO WE'VE JUST BEEN SORT OF INCHING OUR WAY BACK TO THE EASTERN PART OF THE STUDY, WHICH I LOVE VERY MUCH.
AND, UH, SO ANYWAY, UM, WE ALSO HAVE DONE A GOOD AMOUNT OF WORK IN NEWBURN.
COINCIDENTALLY, WE DO WORK IN JACKSONVILLE WILMINGTON, LOT OF WORK AT EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY.
WE DID THE CAROLINA HE'S CANCER CENTER THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH.
AND, UM, WE WERE ON THE TEAM FOR THE NORTH CAROLINA HISTORY CENTER.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH JIMMY ROYSTER WITH MOSAIC ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT ON CAROLINA AVENUE.
SO HISTORY HERE, I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE RAMADA INSIGHT AND BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF NEWBORN CENTRIC, MY WIFE WAS BORN IN KINSTON AND WE'RE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE KINSTON A NEIGHBOR OVER MORE OR LESS HALFWAY IN BETWEEN.
UH, BUT WE, WE TEND THIS WAY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT HARRIS TEETER AND
UM, BUT ANYWAY, SO WE'RE SORT OF LIVING IN CENTRIC AND, UH, I FOUND OUT THAT YOU ALL CONTROLLED THE RAMADA INSIDE.
AND SO I HAVE A DATING STORY ABOUT THE REMODEL INSIDERS.
THERE'S NOTHING NEFARIOUS, BUT THEY USED TO HAVE A DINNER THEATER THERE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
AND MY WIFE HAVE NOT BEEN TO NEW YORK.
I'VE TRAVELED A LOT WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I BELIEVE SHE NEVER BEEN TO A BROADWAY PLAY AND THEY DID FIDDLER ON THE ROOF AT THE VERMONT END BACK IN THE DAY.
AND SO THAT'S MY RAMADA IN STORY.
AND, UH, IT GOT TORN DOWN OF COURSE, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED THERE.
SO I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THAT SITE.
AND SO I GOT FOUND OUT FROM TERESA THAT SHE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL WITH ME, UNBEKNOWNST TO HER.
SHE WAS WITH MY IN MY SISTER'S CLASS.
AND SO ALL THIS STUFF, SORT OF SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION.
IF YOU TALK TO SOMEBODY ALONG WITH JAMES COUNTY, YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE YOU'LL END UP RELATED TO THEM.
BUT ANYWAY, SO I HAVE A LOT OF CONNECTIONS AND ROOTS AND WE'VE SORT OF REACHED OUT FOR OURSELVES HERE.
AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE SITE AND I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I'M A, I'M SORT OF A LAND PLANNER.
I HAVE THE STAFF OF PEOPLE AT MY DISPOSAL.
SO I'VE JUST STARTED DRAWING AND THINKING ABOUT SOME IDEAS, MAYBE HOPING THAT SOME OF THESE IDEAS MIGHT GET YOU ALL THINKING ABOUT THE PROJECT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A DEVELOPER LED KIND OF A PROJECT.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE IDEA WOULD BE YOU COME UP WITH A DESIGN, IT'S NOT CAST IN STONE, BUT AT LEAST IT GETS DEVELOPERS THINKING.
AND THEN YOU ADVERTISE AND HOPEFULLY GET INTERESTED IN INVESTING IN NUMEROUS SPECIALISTS WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON HERE WITH THE BREWERIES AND THE TREMENDOUS STUFF DOWNTOWN, AND JUST THE HISTORY OF WHAT'S GONE ON.
SO I'M GOING TO JUST TAKE YOU THROUGH A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION.
I MADE COPIES, UH, FOR THE NINE COMMISSIONERS.
I'M VERY HAPPY TO LEAVE THE THUMB DRIVE WITH JEFF.
I, YOU GIVE ME YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
I'LL EMAIL YOU THE PACKAGE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY AN OVERVIEW OF EXISTING SITE.
AND THEN SOME IDEAS ABOUT WHAT MIGHT GO THERE AND THEN SOME PRECEDENTS, UH, WHICH WERE JUST IMAGES FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, SO THAT YOU CAN GET AN IDEA ABOUT WHAT THE CHARACTER OF THE PLACE MIGHT POSSIBLY BE.
UM, THE SITE IS ACTUALLY THE SITE THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY IS, AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW IS SORT OF AN HOUR GLASS SHIFT.
SO IT EXCLUDES THE, THE HABITAT PIECE AND IT ALSO EXCLUDES THE ANTIQUE STORE.
SHE USED TO BE BACK IN THE, I USED TO BE AN A AND P GROCERY STORE.
UM, BUT IT, SO IT EXCLUDES THAT.
AND SO JEFF SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE THINK
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THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD ACQUIRE THOSE.AND SO IF WE'RE REALLY WANT TO THINK ABOUT AN OUT OF THE BOX VISION FOR THE AREA, LET'S ASSUME THAT PERHAPS WE WORK OUT A DEAL WHERE WE ACQUIRE THIS PROPERTY.
SO WE ESSENTIALLY THAT SQUARED THE PROPERTY UP AND SHE CAN SEE IT COMES UP HERE AT QUEENS OVER, SORRY, BROAD ALONG QUEEN IS DOWN PRINCESS, AND THEN THE FRONT, AS YOU CAN SEE ON, ON PAULA.
SO THAT MAKES IT ABOUT FOUR ACRES A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
WHAT I TELL PEOPLE IS I'M A FOOTBALL FIELD WITH THE ENZYMES AND THE SITTING AREAS THAT'S ABOUT AN ACRE.
SO IT'S LIKE FOUR FOOTBALL FIELDS PLUS THE AREAS.
AND THAT, THAT WOULD GIVE YOU SOME IDEA ABOUT THE ACRES.
WE HAVE WATER SEWER, ZEN C4, AND A LITTLE BIT OF C5 AID, BUT YOU HAVE SAID, DON'T GET HUNG UP ON THE SUNDAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THIS SIDE.
UM, AND WE DO WORK ALL OVER NORTH AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND ATLANTA DOWN TO FLORIDA.
SO WE'RE, WE DO A LOT OF VERY URBAN PROJECTS.
THAT'S BRINGING BUILDINGS UP TO THIS THREE PARKING DECKS, RAFFLE RESIDENTIAL STUFF.
THAT'S PROBABLY OUT OF WHAT YOU ALL MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER BECAUSE OF THE COST, BUT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE IT A DENSE SITE.
I'M HOPING WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK SUBURBAN.
SO WE DON'T WANT THE BUILDINGS SET BACK WITH A BUNCH OF BUSHES AND TREES.
WE WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE AN URBAN, AN URBAN PLACE.
SO THE ZONING IS IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S JEFF SAYS WE NEED TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE SITE.
AND THEN WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN RELATIVE TO LUZON.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE PLENTY OF WATER AND SEWER.
THE SITE IS ALL, ALL PAVED SORT OF STEM TO STERN.
SO STORM WATER WON'T NECESSARILY BE AN ISSUE WHICH CAN SOMETIMES BE COSTLY.
IF YOU HAVE A SITE THAT WAS UNDEVELOPED AND YOU HAVE TO TREAT THE STORM WATER.
A LOT OF TIMES IT HAS TO GO UNDERGROUND, WHICH IS VERY COSTLY.
SO YOU'VE GOT A SITE RELATIVE TO DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S MORE OR LESS FLAT WHEN I WAS OUT THERE ON THE POURING DOWN RAIN A FEW MINUTES AGO.
UM, SO THAT'S CAN BE A GOOD THING.
UH, WHEN I TALKED TO JEFF AND DIRECT SAID IT WAS THE GENERAL IDEAS THAT THIS REALLY HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL FEEL THAN THIS, WHICH HAS A MORE COMMERCIAL FIELD.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DRIVING THE PROGRAM WAS HOW THE PROJECT WOULD BE SITUATED.
AND SO JEFF, IF YOU WANT TO SCROLL DOWN AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THESE SLIDES, UM, THE IDEA IS WHAT I, WHAT I STARTED OUT LOOKING AT WAS PARKING KIND OF NO, NOPE, UNINTENDED DRUGS, EVERYTHING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, PARKING, HAVING PARKING, YOU'RE GONNA, IF YOU, IN SOME MUNICIPALITIES, LIKE SHARE OUT THEIR DESIGN IN AREAS WHERE THEY'RE NOT REQUIRING PARKING AT ALL SORT OF EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF, WHERE THEY HAVE LIGHT RAIL, THEY HAVE BUS, THEY HAVE SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT SUPPORT TRANSPORTATION THAT CAN DO THAT HERE.
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUSH THE LIMIT ON PARKING, BUT THE PROBLEM IS YOU DON'T WANT TO REDUCE THE PARKING TO THE POINT WHERE IT BECOMES UNDEVELOPABLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, BUT THEN THERE'S AN ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUSH, IF YOU LIMIT IT SO MUCH THAT YOU DON'T GET PEOPLE THAT WILL LEASE THE SPACE, THAT BECOMES A CHALLENGE.
SO THERE'S, NOTHING'S IN STONE, BUT I WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU ALL A SENSE OF THE SCALE OF THE PLACE.
AND YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN I GET INTO SOME OF THE IMAGES ABOUT WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA ABOUT THE CARE.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TWO BUILDINGS THAT WERE FRONT, UM, BROAD AND QUEENS, AND SORT OF MAKE THAT TRANSITION TO PRINCESS.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHOWING HOW ALTERNATIVE THAT IS SURFACE SURFACE PARKING.
SO THERE'S NO STRUCTURED PARKING, BUT I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT THE STRUCTURED PARKING MIGHT DO TO YOUR ABILITY TO INCREASE THE DENSITY.
SO THIS BUILDING IS 19,000, ALMOST 20,000 SQUARE FEET, TWO FLOORS.
AND THIS BUILDING IS A LITTLE LESS IT'S 19,200.
IT'S BOTH OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE TWO FLOORS AND THE LOWER FLOOR IS RETAIL.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT IT WILL BE SHOPS, COULD BE IN ANY KIND OF RETAIL THAT YOU CAN THINK OF.
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IF YOU TAKE THAT BILL AND IT'S A TOTAL OF 19 AND 19, YOU'VE DIVIDED IN HALF, SINCE IT'S TWO FLOORS, YOU HAVE ABOUT 9,700 SQUARE FEET, JUST CALL IT 10,000 SQUARE FEET ON EACH FLOOR THAT WILL BE FOR RETAIL.AND WHAT JEFF AND I TALKED ABOUT WAS, AGAIN, THIS IS GETTING INTO SOME OF THE NITTY GRITTY, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN SOME URBAN AREAS WHERE THEY'RE DEVELOPING ON THE, SORT OF ON THE FRINGE OF WHERE SOME OF THE ACTIVITY IS.
IS THERE SOME TRANSITIONAL USES THAT CAN GO IN THERE BEFORE IT CAN SUPPORT, UM, MORE TRADITIONAL RETAIL USES LIKE YOGURT SHOPS AND ICE CREAM, COFFEE AND LITTLE RESTAURANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO ONE THING THAT THE CITY MIGHT ABLE TO DO THIS, PUT SOME MUNICIPAL OR COUNTY OR SERVICE ORIENTED THINGS IN THERE SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE DEAD SPACE ON THE RETAIL.
AND THEN UP, UP ABOVE SPACE WOULD BE OFFICE BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT, OBVIOUSLY THE LEASE RETAIL SPACE ON AN UPPER LEVEL, BECAUSE PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY WON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN YOU GO DOWN, PAM, YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL, OR YOU HAVE OFFICE STUFF ABOVE, AND YOU PUT YOUR SHOPS ON THE LOWER LEVEL.
SO THIS IS RETAIL ON THE LOWER LEVEL BILLING, A AND AN OFFICE ABOVE, AND THE SAME THING FOR BUILDING B.
AND THEN WE HAVE THIS PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE THAT GOES THROUGH AND CONNECT, AND WE HAVE APARTMENTS THAT FACE ON TO, TO POLLOCK AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING 64 UNITS.
AGAIN, IT'S ALL DRIVEN BY HOW MUCH PARKING WE HAVE AN ISLAND GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE PARKING.
WE'RE NOT QUITE MEETING ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE, UM, IN TERMS OF, SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT YOU HAVE PARKING HERE, YOU HAVE A LARGE PARKING HERE, AND I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT WHY I CONFIGURED IT THAT WAY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE PARKING HERE AND THEN YOU HAVE AN AMENITY AREA FOR BUILDING C OR THE APARTMENTS HERE, AND YOU HAVE THIS CONNECTION SPACE WITH A CENTRAL OPEN SPACE HERE.
AND THEN, UH, AN URBAN ALLEYWAY HERE THAT COULD BE OUTDOORS.
IT COULD BE SOME OTHER THINGS TO KIND OF DRAW YOU IN INTO THIS AND THE NEXT SLIDE KIND OF ZOOMS IN TO THESE, TO THESE SPACES.
SO YOU CAN GET A BETTER SENSE, AGAIN, URBAN STREETSCAPE, PARKSCAPE BUILDING UP, UP AGAINST THE STREET LANDSCAPING.
AND THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE CREATED THE SPACE LAUREN, UH, SO THAT IF THE CITY HAD THE APPETITE TO DO STRUCTURED PARKING, WE COULD ACTUALLY ADD ANOTHER LEVEL OF OFFICE SPACE ON TOP OF THEM TO TWO TWO-STORY.
SO YOU HAD A THREE-STORY PARKING DECK, WHICH WOULD HAVE IT'S 46 SPACES PER LEVEL.
YOU WOULD, WE'VE ALREADY CALCULATED HOW THE RAMPS WILL BE SORT OF PRETTY SIMPLE KIND OF PARKING DECK, SO THAT IN ORDER TO ADD SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU'VE GOT TO ADD PARKING, OBVIOUSLY, TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO WE HAVE THIS KIND OF FLEXIBLE FORMULA WHERE YOU CAN ADD STRUCTURED PARKING AND THAT EQUATES TO ESSENTIALLY ADDING MORE OFFICE.
UM, AND THERE'S ALSO THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU COULD SHARE SOME OF THIS PARKING WITH THE RESIDENTIAL, IF YOU WANTED TO INCREASE THE RESIDENT.
SO ADDING PARKING IS GOING TO GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO ADD MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, AND MORE UNITS.
AND IN THE MULTI-FAMILY NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS IN VIEW AGAIN, OF THE, OF THE APARTMENT.
IT CAN BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS AND THEN WE'VE DONE, I MEAN, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF UNITS ALL OVER NORTH AND SOUTH CAROLINA, WE JUST FINISHED ONE IN DURHAM CALLED 5, 5, 5, 9 OF THEM WITH NORTH OF RAVEN.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, 300 UNITS.
AND IT'S VERY URBAN, BUT I MEAN, WE COULD DO TWO BUILDINGS WITH, WITH A SPLIT.
WE COULD DO THREE SMALLER BUILDINGS GENERALLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO THE ONE BUILDING, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ECONOMICAL.
UH, W WE'RE NOT SHOWING HIM AMANDA, IN TERMS OF THE POOL, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD TO MAKE THOSE NUMBERS WORK WHEN YOU DON'T, YOU REALLY WANT TO BE AT A 200 UNIT THRESHOLD TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT KIND OF AMENITY WHAT WE ARE SHOWING.
OTHER KINDS OF AMENITIES, OUTDOOR ACTIVITY, SEATING, SOME TRELLISES, SOME GARDEN AREAS, THINGS LIKE THAT TO CONNECT.
AND I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THESE PRECEDENTS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW IT MIGHT BE.
YOU KNOW, I WAS TELLING JEFF RICE TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE, UM, HAVING A STORIC FEEL TO IT, BUT YOU DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE WILLIAMSBURG.
SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE A NICE TO HAVE, AND MAYBE THAT'S, MAYBE YOU ALL THINK IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE WHERE YOU WERE, BUT
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THE THOUGHT IS THAT IT WOULD BE SOME SORT OF FUSION OF TRADITIONAL AND SOME CONTEMPORARY LINES IN IT AND ELEMENTS OF THIS STORE.SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IN RALEIGH IS THEY'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT SORT OF A RENAISSANCE IN THE DEPOT, THE WAREHOUSE, THEY CALL THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY CENTER, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HISTORY SIZE OF NEW BELVIN, BUT IT SORT OF, IT HELPS THEM BRIDGE THEIR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, THE CHURCHES, SOME OF THE RETAIL WITH THE PALACE AND IT'S BRICK, AND IT HAS TRADITIONAL LINES, BUT IT DOES HAVE SOME CONTEMPORARY COMPONENTS TO IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, LIKE THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS FIVE STORIES, BUT IT HAS BRICK THAT HAS GLASS.
IT HAS SOME SPAN ROLL, AND SOME METAL PANELS, THINGS LIKE, UH, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A, SOMETHING THAT HAS A WAREHOUSE FILLED WITH THE UPPER UNITS TRANSITION TO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE CONTEMPORARY.
ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID TO JEFF, I SAID, WHEN I WAS MEETING WITH HIM, I SAID, HEY, GIVE ME SOME SENSE ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL LIKED.
AND HE SAID, WELL, I'D REALLY PREFER THAT THIS GROUP WEIGH IN ON THAT BECAUSE I WAS, I WAS GOING TO PAIR THESE IMAGES DOWN AND HE THOUGHT IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR YOU ALL THAT HAVE, HAVE A SENSE OF THAT.
SO THESE ARE MUCH MORE CONTEMPORARY.
THIS IS GOT SOME BRICK AND PRE-CAST, AND THIS HAS SOME WOOD, WHICH IS A POSSIBILITY, BUT IT'S STILL A LITTLE BIT CONTEMPORARY AND FLORIDA BECAUSE OF THESE QUICKLY, I DID LIKE THE BOTTOM UP THIS ONE.
WHAT'S REALLY NEAT ABOUT SOME OF THE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE EAST CAROLINA GREENVILLE, ONE IN THE MIDDLE, UP ON THE TOP, BUT THE METAL, NO, NO, COME DOWN THIS NEXT SLIDE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS VERY SORT OF MODERN, FUNKY, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT KINDS OF MATERIALS, COLOR, THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH WOULD BE OUT THERE.
THIS IS, THIS REALLY IS MORE TRADITIONAL.
UM, IT DOES HAVE SOME CONTEMPORARY HERE, BUT THIS IS SORT OF CHARLESTON OR BOSTON, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A FEEL, BUT I THINK IT COULD, IT COULD WORK WELL.
THIS IS, UM, A LITTLE MORE, UM, ALEXANDRIA, IT LOOKS LIKE THE ANNEX, THE ANNEX FOR THE DOUBLETREE.
I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE JUMPING WAY AHEAD, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT WANTS TO BE MASONRY AND NOT WOOD.
THAT IT SHOULD BE MOSTLY MASONRY.
IT IS NOT JUST ON THE ONLINE SIDE, BUT ON THE PRODUCT STREET SIDE AS WELL.
SORRY, NEXT, THIS IS GETTING A LITTLE MORE TRADITIONAL.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PICTURE IS, WOULD TRY TO BE INTERESTING.
THIS IS A TALBOT'S, SO YOU CAN SEE RETAIL ON THE LOWER LEVEL AND THEN PUNCHED WINDOWS WITH SOME DENTAL MOLDING.
JUST PRETTY NICE, BUT NOT, NOT FUNNY.
COLONE, I CALL IT NOT, NOT TRYING TO BE.
IT BELONGS ON THE LOCKDOWN 10 JEFF HAVE IT IN THE SLOT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT PLUGS ON THAT CORNER.
AND SOME OF THESE ACTUALLY COME FROM PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN CHARLOTTE.
UM, THERE WAS A TIME IN THE LATE NINETIES, EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, WHERE THERE WERE A LOT OF THESE, UM, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THEY BE CALLED SORT OF LIFESTYLE CENTERS.
YOU'VE BEEN TO CHARLOTTE PHILLIPS PLACE, UM, WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO CREATE A MAIN STREET IN SUP IN THE SUBURBS.
AND SO SOME OF THESE ARE PULLED FROM THAT.
NOT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT IN NEWBURN, BUT BECAUSE SOME OF THE, THE SCALE OF IT IS THERE.
AND THE PROBLEM WITH SOME OF THAT IS THERE'S A LOT OF PRIVATE AND A LOT OF, UM, MATERIALS THAT DON'T HAVE A REAL PERMANENCE THAT YOU WOULD WANT.
AND THAT'S WHY I THINK SOME OF THE BRICK WOULD BE GOOD.
THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF GEORGE JETSON, BUT I PUT IT IN THERE CAUSE IT'S COOL.
THIS IS KIND OF COOL BECAUSE IT HAS BRICK, BUT IT ALSO HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A FUNKY KIND OF A FEEL TO IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GOT THE BREWERIES.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THAT, THAT VIBE IS GOING ON OVER THERE AND YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE, UM, EXCLUSIVE.
YOU WANT IT TO SORT OF FEEL A LITTLE BIT GRITTY AND A LITTLE BIT LIKE IT WOULD FIT INTO THE BEDROOM.
SO NOW THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE OMNI HOUSE.
THIS IS WHAT I REALLY LIKED, WHICH IS WHAT YOU CAN DO IN THOSE SORT OF IN THOSE SPACES BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS OR WHERE YOU CAN CREATE A LOT
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OF OUTDOOR DINING, SPECIAL LANDSCAPING, THE LIGHTING, YOU CAN INTRODUCE SOME, SOME PUBLIC ART, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN ALMOST TRANSPOSE SOME OF THIS CHARACTER ONTO THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE HAD.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT WIDE, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT BETWEEN THE TWO, THE RESIDENTIAL USE AND THE MIXED USE, YOU MIGHT HAVE THIS PROMINENT, WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF A NEAT THING.
AND THEN THIS SHOWS, AGAIN, THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE, WHERE WE WANT TO PULL THOSE BUILDINGS UP ON THE STREETS SO THAT IT CREATES SOME INTEREST FOR PEOPLE WALKING.
THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE WE'VE ACTUALLY INCORPORATED OLDERS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT ALIEN TO THIS AREA, BUT IT DOES CREATE SOME INTEREST.
AND THEN A FEW OTHER, THESE ARE MORE, UH, MULTIFAMILY KIND OF SITES, RETAIL BELOW.
YOU CONSIDER MIXING THE BRICK COLOR LIGHTING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDINGS NEED TO HAVE A BOTTOM AND A TOP.
I THINK LIGHTING IS IMPORTANT.
HERE'S SOME THINGS WITH PARKING DECKS.
IF WE DID DO A PARKING DECK, I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE, IT WOULD BE ACCESSED OFF OF A NEW STREET THAT WOULD GO, UM, WHERE THE ANTIQUE STORE IS.
SO YOU, THAT PARKING DECK WOULD REALLY BE CONCEALED.
YOU'D BE ENTERING THAT PARKING DECK, UH, FROM THE SIDE.
THAT'S THE LAST ONE, ONE MORE.
THESE ARE A FEW MORE, ALL THIS IS JUST, AGAIN, JUST SHOWS THAT THE RICHNESS OF THE STREETSCAPE AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AGAIN, YOU ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.
ONE THING WE'VE RUN INTO IS, UH, PLANTING THE RIGHT COUNT OF TREES ON THE STREET, BECAUSE EVENTUALLY THEY GROW INTO THE BUILDINGS.
IF YOU DON'T CHOOSE THE RIGHT KIND OF TREE.
AND SO THAT'S A, AGAIN, THAT'S A DETAIL OF THE GOOD DETAIL THING TO HAVE.
THESE ARE JUST SOME OTHER, SOME OF THESE ARE PUT IN HERE TO SHOW WHAT WE PROBABLY DON'T WANT.
I DON'T THINK WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE A COUNTRY SWEETS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A MARRIOTT COURTYARD.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE WANT THAT COLOR, BUT I THINK WE COULD, AND WE PROBABLY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED PALM TREES AS FAR NORTH.
THE IDEA IS THAT YOU CAN USE THE SPACES BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS TO DO SOME PRETTY COOL THINGS TO MAKE IT AN INTERESTING PROJECT.
I THINK THE SCALE OF THIS IS OKAY, IT'S JUST THE COLORS AND THE MATERIALS.
UH, THIS IS SOME OF THE OUTDOOR, UM, AMENITIES, TRUSSES AND THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.
A LOT OF THAT I THINK WOULD BE, UH, SUCCESSFUL AND USEFUL NEXT.
AND THEN AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THOSE, UH, THOSE SPACES BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT.
I THINK WE CAN ALSO INCLUDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS INCLUDE SOME RAIN GARDENS AND BY RETENTION, BASINS, SOME THINGS THAT ADDRESS SUSTAINABILITY.
AND WE DID THAT AT THE HISTORY MUSEUM OR THE NORTH CAROLINA HISTORY CENTER, INCORPORATING SOME TRELLISES, HAVING SOME SPACES IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN COME FOR EVENTS LIKE THE JEAN TANK THING THAT THE YOUNG LADY WAS TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE KIND OF COOL.
IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO THE OVERALL SITE PLAN, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
AND AGAIN, I'M JUST, I'M JUST REALLY TRYING TO SPUR INTEREST.
SO WHO'S THE COMMISSIONER
I'VE BEEN REALLY LOOKING AT IT AND, YOU KNOW, ABSORBING IT AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK TO, UH, ANOTHER, UM, WE'LL GO BACK AND FORTH FOR A LITTLE WHILE, CAUSE IT'S REALLY JUST THE CONCEPT.
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AND THEN THAT WAY YOU CAN TALK BACK WITH MICHAEL ABOUT IT.I'M HAPPY TO COME TO FUTURE MEETINGS.
I THINK AGAIN, I'M INTERESTED CAUSE I, I I'M SORT OF LIVE HERE AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING COOL HAPPENED.
AND I THINK I'VE TALKED TO JEFF ABOUT THIS CAUSE WE, I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS WITH DEVELOPERS AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE DO A WORK WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPERS.
SOMETIMES IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING IN FRONT OF THE RIGHT DEVELOPER WHO WANT TO INVEST IN THIS AREA.
SO I COULD ALSO, AT SOME POINT WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE, WHICH IS PROBABLY A WAYS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU ALL GET MORE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
I THINK THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO DEVELOP AN RFP SO THAT YOU CAN SEND IT TO DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY SHOW SOME INTEREST PARTNER AND THE TIMING MIGHT NOT BE RIGHT, BUT THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO.
IS IT VIABLE WITHOUT IF YOU CAN'T, SINCE YOU WILL, THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WE DON'T STEAL, WE, WE DID A COUPLE OF OPTIONS WITH IT THAT WAY AND WE CAN MAKE IT WORK, BUT IT DRASTICALLY REDUCES THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEIR EFFICIENCY.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU SORT OF PLUG IN AND DO A LITTLE PERFORMANCE AND YOU FIGURE WHAT YOU PAID FOR THE LAND AND THEN WHAT THE RETURN IS BASED ON WHAT YOU CAN GET ON THE LAND.
AND WHAT I THINK IS BETTER HOPEFULLY IS THAT YOU CAN ACQUIRE THE OTHER PARCELS.
IT WILL INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY AND THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT TO CUT MORE THAN COMPENSATE FOR WHAT YOU HAVE TO INVEST IN MY JUDGMENT TO BUY THE OTHER TWO PARCELS SO WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.
[5. Acceptance of 602 Gaston House]
OH FIVE TO GET THE 600 TO GAS.UM, SO BACK IN FEBRUARY, I PRESENTED A PROPOSAL THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAME TO ME AND ASKED ME ABOUT THE REBOUND COMMISSION WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THAT HOUSE AT SIX.
SO TO GASOLINE, I BROUGHT THAT BACK TO THIS GROUP, WE SPOKE ABOUT IT.
ULTIMATELY WE WERE DIRECTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO IT, WORKING WITH THE HOUSING GROUP.
UM, WE'VE PRETTY MUCH ASSEMBLED THE ENTIRE PROFORMA FOR, FROM MOVING THE PROPERTY SURVEYING, IT'S SURVEYING A NEW PROPERTY, GETTING THE PHOTOS AND THE FOUNDATION BUILT AND GET THE ULTIMATE REHAB OF IT, ALL THAT TOP, ALL THOSE COSTS.
BUT WE BOUGHT $115,000 TO GET IN THE HOUSE ON THE LOT.
UM, WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER $232,000 AVAILABLE TO US THROUGH OUR CBE PROGRAM THAT STANDS TO REHAB YEARS, BUT THAT'S, UM, THAT'S FUN.
SO WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO DO IT.
WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD A HOUSE LIKE THAT FOR THAT MUCH MONEY.
SO AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME, UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS REQUESTED THAT THE COMMISSION ACCEPT THE OWNERSHIP OF IT IN A FORMAL WAY, BY A FORMAL MOTION.
AND THAT, UH, THEN THE BOARD OF ALL THE MEN WILL THEN HEAR THAT.
AND, UH, FORMALLY GIVE GIFT THE STRUCTURE TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, WHICH IS THEY CAN DO AS A ONE TRANSACTION AND NOT HAVE TO DO UPSET THEATER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, THE, IF WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AT THIS POINT, THOUGH, WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STRUCTURE AS EXCEPT TO GASTON MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT STRUCTURE AT 602 GASTON BULLDOG.
[6. Committee Updates]
OFUM,
I WANT TO BRING IT UP NEW BUSINESS.
UM, BUT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, SO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE JUNK VEHICLES AND I AM REQUESTING, OR AT LEAST HAVING A CONVERSATION
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WITH THIS COMMISSION, WHETHER WE CAN JUST ESTABLISH ANOTHER, IF, IF, UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN ANOTHER WORKING GROUP REALLY GEARED TOWARDS ENGAGE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THESE, UH, THESE, ALL THESE PROPERTIES WITH THE ABANDONED VEHICLES ON IT.SO WE CAN REALLY GET A REALLY SOLID PLAN TOGETHER, UM, INSTEAD OF JUST THE STRAIGHT UP ENFORCEMENT, WHICH FOR ABANDONED VEHICLES TAKES A LONG TIME TO DO, UM, ON, ON THE CITY SIDE.
SO HOPEFULLY I'M MAYBE REQUESTING THAT.
WE THINK ABOUT CREATING A SPECIFIC WORKING GROUP TOWARDS THAT.
AND WE CAN JUST GO MEET WITH THESE PEOPLE.
I'VE KNOCKED ON A LOT OF DOORS ON HANDED OUT A LOT OF FLYERS SO FAR WE HAVE HAD ABSOLUTELY NOBODY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR GOODWILL.
UM, SO THE OTHER OPTION IS TO GO THROUGH IN THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF IT, WHICH TAKES UP A LONG TIME.
IT'S A LOT LONGER THAN MOWING GRASS WHEN YOU GET INTO THE ABANDONED VEHICLE.
WELL, UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE HEAVY HAND INSIDE OF IT.
AND I THINK IF WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A, MORE OF A COMMUNITY TYPE PROGRAM, UM, TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE, UM, WE CAN BE A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE AND MAYBE SOME VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE INSTEAD OF USING THE HAMMER METHOD.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF CHANGE THE, CREATE A NEW WORKING GROUP, UM, UH, TO ADDRESS ABANDONED VEHICLES SITUATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THE LIBRARY RESPONSIBLE FOR IN YOUR ESTIMATION, WHAT ARE THE VENDORS HERE WE EXPLAINED, OH NO, THEY'RE VERY NICE.
THEY TAKE THE FLYER AND SAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO WITH IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY, ANYBODY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A PROGRAM WITH BOSTON LAST NIGHT.
AND KNOW YOU SAID IT'S LONG AND CUMBERSOME PROCESS ON THE IMPORTANT SIDE.
GIVE ME, I MEAN, WHAT'S, WHAT'S LONG, ARE YOU TALKING A COUPLE OF MONTHS WORTH OF YOUR WORK OR PROBABLY THREE MONTHS, THREE MONTHS START TO FINISH AND JUST IT'S EFFORT LONG AS IT'S ONE PERSON HANDLING ALL THE NOTICE AND ALL THE, UH, ALL THE INTERACTION WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL, IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT IF WE COULD AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A GROUP.
CAUSE I'VE GOT A PROGRAM WHERE IT'S MORE OF AN INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE GET ALL OUR PARTNERS INVOLVED IN IT, IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHEN WE DO IT FROM THAT END AND GET VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, WE HAD A PROPERTY JUST OUTSIDE THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION THAT HAD WELL OR 50 CARS ON ONE PROPERTY, UM, THAT TOOK 14 MONTHS TO TAKE CARE OF THROUGH A LOT OF ENFORCEMENT.
AND SO IT'S JUST A LOT OF TIME AND THAT'S ALL AND THAT'S, UM, AND THAT'S FINE.
A LOT OF OUR ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES ARE LAID OUT OVER A LONG TIMEFRAME FOR A REASON.
SO EVERYONE'S RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED.
UM, BUT IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF THESE ABANDONED VEHICLES IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT WOULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS TO GET RID OF THEM.
AND BY THE TIME THEY DID, WE'D PROBABLY GET MORE ON THE BACK END COMING BACK.
UM, SO I THINK MAYBE IF WE, UH, LIKE WE HAVE WITH THE COMMUNITY HEALTH, UM, ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND TO TALK ABOUT IT AND SAY, THERE IS A WAY TO GET RID OF THESE THINGS RELATIVELY QUICKLY, UM, WITHOUT ANY ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AND LIENS AND FINES AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO THAT WAS, WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION AS A STATEMENT, BUT WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE JUNK VEHICLES, I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE CONTACT ME BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING THAT THE PRICE OF JUNK IS GOING UP NOW AND THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY TAKE THEIR VEHICLES AND TAKE THEM TO THE JUNK YARD, WHICH IS, I THINK RAYMOND GOLDMAN IS GOING TO BE OPENING UP IN THE SUMMER OF THIS YEAR.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO WAIT TO GET THEIR JUNK, BE HELPLESS THERE.
SO, I MEAN, I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO THE CURRENT SECOND FOR FREE.
WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH BOSS RECYCLING AND THEY'LL COME AND PICK THEM UP, BUT THEY WILL, AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE.
IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY AND JUNK CARS.
UM, AND THAT'S AN OPTION, BUT AGAIN, YEAH, YEAH, IT WAS JUST EXPRESSED TO ME.
SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS IT TO, I HAD ONE INTERESTING.
I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT ALL BEST IS I WAS SORT OF AFRAID TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
UM, BUT YEAH, THAT WILL BE A GREAT THOUGHT PROCESS TOO.
LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'VE TRIED IT NICELY, BUT TO ENTICE THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF WE HAVE A COUPLE OF YOU, THAT'S WILLING TO TAKE THEM AND THEY'LL GIVE YOU 50 HOURS, WHATEVER YOU GOT FIVE CARS IN THE YARD, SOMEBODY WOULD PROBABLY QUIT A BIT FASTER WHEN NO QUESTIONS, WHAT AM I DOING THAT? BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE IT FREE NOW, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST GETTING ANYTHING IN SOMEONE'S HAND, THAT'S DOING THAT PART.
UM, OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING RIGHT BEFORE SHE BROUGHT THAT UP, HE WAS OFFERED.
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UTILIZE OUR CRAVEN COUNTY SCHOOLS AND COLLEGE TO WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY DONATE THAT EVERYBODY MIGHT NOT DO IT, BUT IF WE GET FOUR OR FIVE CARS TO WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY USE THE PARKS, BREAK IT DOWN FOR EDUCATION, WE CAN PUT THEM IN, PUT THEM IN A NEWSPAPER.THANK YOU FOR DONATING YOUR CAR.
THAT GOES A LONG WAYS WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HAVE IT SOUNDS
SO, UM, THE FIRST ITEM UNDERSTANDING AS WE GO OVER THIS IS WE IN THE LAST MONTH HAD DEVELOPED A QR CODE CARD, UM, WHICH DHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON, UM, FOR OUR, UM, OUR WORKING GROUP.
AND, UM, PRETTY MUCH JUST TRYING TO INCORPORATE WHAT ARE YOU AT YOUR VOICE MATTERS? SO WE WENT AND LOOKED AT SOME FLIP CHARTS AND WANTING THREE.
AND CAUSE JASMINE ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, BEING HEARD.
UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO TRY, WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS YET.
UM, DISTRIBUTE THESE DURING JUNETEENTH, UM, THE FESTIVAL, UM, AND WE'RE MEETING ON FRIDAY THIS FRIDAY AT FOUR O'CLOCK WITH JASMINE, UM, ANTOINETTE BOSKY, JOHN, UM, THE ASIA AND, UM, HOPEFULLY MR. JONES TO DISCUSS THE LOGISTICS OF THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE GOAL NUMBER FOR PARTICIPATION AND INCENTIVIZING IT.
WE HAD DISCUSSED DOING, UM, DOING SOME OUTREACH DURING THE, UM, IT'S THE NEW BERNIE INVOLVED, WHICH WAS OVER MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND BECAUSE THE WEATHER LOOKED PROBLEMATIC.
SO, BUT WE, SO WE'VE HAD SOME INITIAL DISCUSSIONS AS TO HOW DO USE THIS CARD AND TO GET IT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, OTHER WAYS OF DISTRIBUTION COULD BE THE DODGE CITY CONVENIENCE STORE.
WHAT HAS COME UP IN THE LAST WEEK, UM, IS THAT PERHAPS PAPER, UM, THE PAPER HEALTH ASSESSMENT, THE ACTUAL HARD COPY MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE TO FILL IT OUT, THEY MIGHT, THERE MIGHT BE A COMFORT WITH THAT.
SO WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT ON FRIDAY, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, HOW MANY ARE IMMEDIATE.
UM, THE ONE ISSUE WITH THAT AS THE PRIMARY INVESTIGATOR WILL BE JASMINE COULD BE, UH, UM, WOULD HAVE TO BE IN CHARGE OF THAT.
UM, BUT YOU CAN ALSO USE A TRUSTED MEMBER OF COMMUNITY.
SO ON THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT, WE CAN POSSIBLY INCLUDE, UM, A NAME TOO, IN CASE PEOPLE WANT TO CALL AND FIND OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACTUAL ASSESSMENT.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO DETERMINE WHO THAT WOULD BE AS WELL.
UM, SOMEBODY WHO'S CONSISTENT, SOMEBODY WHO'S WELL KNOWN, SOMEBODY WHO'S TRUSTED AND HAS THE TIME TO DO THAT.
SO THE OTHER PLACE WE WERE THINKING, I THINK DEE HAD MENTIONED WAS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, BUT WE HAVEN'T, I DON'T THINK THE FLU SHOT YET.
THEY JUST HAVEN'T RESPONDED YET, BUT WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO MERCY CLINIC AND, UM, YEAH.
UM, THEY ARE GOING TO PARTNER WITH US TO GET THESE IN THEIR LOBBY AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE FILLING THEM OUT FROM THE W FIELD COMMUNITY, BUT THEY SEE A LOT OF REFERENCE FROM OVER THERE.
AND THEN HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, MAJOR REVITALIZATION.
THEY DIDN'T LIVE IN PARTNERING WITH US ALL ALONG.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S BEEN VERY VALUABLE.
UM, SO THAT'S, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
I, JASMINE HAD EMAILED ME, UM, I GUESS IT WAS THURSDAY TO ALL OF US THAT THE ONLY THE NUMBER THAT WE HAD FROM OUR MAIN FIRST EVENT WAS 15, UM, WHICH IS A SMALL NUMBER, BUT I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AT THIS POINT TO REALLY GET OUT, UM, AND WORK WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE RESIDENTS AND JOIN THE ENGAGEMENT, BUT WE WILL, YOU KNOW, JUNETEENTH IS A BEYOND THE FOOD OPPORTUNITY WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO WE'RE HOPING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SET A GOAL, WE'LL DO THAT HOPEFULLY ON FRIDAY AS THE NUMBER OF THAT WE HOPE TO, UH, PARTICIPANTS AND, UH, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO IT.
I MEAN, WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO, UM, TO WORK AT ANY OPPORTUNITY THAT PRESENTS ITSELF.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAD JOHN IS I MET, UM, WITH, UH, MR. RUGERI AND NORBERT SCHEELS, UM, JUST THE GRANT WRITER FOR THE CITY TO BEGIN TO IDENTIFY GRANT MONEY IS FOR, UM, THE ACTUAL COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER.
AND, UM, I D I LISTED THEM HERE WITH THE DESCRIPTION.
UM, THE ONE, UM, ONE GRANT WAS A RURAL PLACEMAKING INNOVATION CHALLENGE, WHICH HAS SEEMED REALLY INTERESTING.
UM, IT'S ABOUT PLACEMAKING, UM, ENROLLED COMMUNITIES AND THEY HAVE AN EMPHASIS ON HEALTH AND GARVIN ACCESS AND, UM, TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING, AND RECREATIONAL SPACES, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE, UM,
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THE DEVELOPMENT AREA AND COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.THOSE ARE, CAN BE EITHER CONSTRUCTION OR ON CONSTRUCTION.
UM, BASICALLY LOOKING, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, AT COMMUNITY HEALTH CLINICS AND STABLISH HAVE A SATELLITE HEALTH CLINIC.
SO THOSE WERE PROJECTS THEY'D DONE IN THE PAST.
THERE'S OTHER THINGS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, ANY OTHER COULD UPDATES? DO YOU HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS?
[7. Old Business]
SURE, SURE.SO, UM, PREVIOUSLY THIS COMMISSION, UM, MEDICARE BOARD PREVIOUSLY, THIS COMMISSION, UM, VOTED TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR 2 0 3 AND 2 0 7 JOAN STREETS.
UM, THOSE ARE TWO PARCELS LOCATED OF WHAT BELLAMY DRIVE ON THE HIGHER ELEVATION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, UM, TO UPPER JOAN STREET HAS A STRUCTURE ON IT.
JOHN STREET IS PRIMARILY VACANT EVEN THOUGH THE HOUSE ENCOURAGED A LITTLE BIT ON THAT LOT.
UM, WE WERE INFORMED YESTERDAY THAT OUR OFFER HAS BEEN ACCEPTED NOT ONLY BY THE SELLER, BUT ALSO BY THE SELLERS FINANCE COMPANY.
AND WE ARE SCHEDULED TO CLOSE ON THOSE TWO PARCELS, THINK IT'S JULY 12TH, IS THAT RIGHT? OR BEFORE? UM, SO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET EVERYTHING PREPARED FOR THE CLOSING, UM, SO THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS REAL ESTATE PORTFOLIO IS ACTIVELY GROWING.
UM, MR. REGINA AREA, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DISCUSS? OKAY.
AND JANUARY, I BELIEVE OF THIS YEAR, THE COMMISSION VOTED TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR THE ACQUISITION OF SEVERAL PARCELS ON FIRST AVENUE, UM, FROM MR. KENNY ALLEN AND HIS WIFE, THERE ARE SIX STRUCTURES OR SO JEFF, AM I CORRECT INVOLVED IN THAT TRANSACTION? OKAY.
THERE ARE SIX, UM, ALL ON THAT FIRST AVENUE CORRIDOR, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS, UM, MR. ALLEN WAS WORKING DILIGENTLY.
UM, SEVERAL OF THE STRUCTURES WERE INHABITED, UM, AND GIVING THOSE PEOPLE, HIS TENANTS, AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, FIND ALTERNATIVE HOUSING SO THAT WE CAN GET INTO THE TIMING OF WHAT, IF ANYTHING, NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THOSE RESIDENCES, UM, NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
UM, SO PURSUANT TO ACTION TAKEN BY THIS BOARD, UM, MR. ALLEN AGREED, UM, TO EXTEND THAT CONTRACT, TO GIVE HIM SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTIES ARE UNENCUMBERED SO THAT THE RE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION CAN TAKE POSSESSION OF THOSE PROPERTIES FREE AND CLEAR.
AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN ON OR BEFORE SEPTEMBER 27TH OF THIS YEAR.
UM, THERE, THE CHAIR WAS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN A CONTRACT THAT CONTRACT IS AVAILABLE IN THE OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THIS ORGANIZATION, UM, AND IS AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION BY ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, BUT I'M WILLING TO ANSWER THOSE AT THIS TIME.
[8. New Business]
I HAVE NO.MS. JO, DID YOU SEND, YOU ONLY RECEIVED 15 SURVEY POOL ON MAY 15 ON MAY 1ST SUBMITTED THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN A COUPLE OF TRAILERS AFTER THAT.
YOU KNOW, I JUST GOT THAT INFORMATION THIS WEEK, SO WE KNOW WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT.
AND WE KNOW THE RESOURCE THAT WAS AT THE RESOURCE EVENT ON MAY 1ST AND JASMINE ALSO NOTED, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT LIKE A LAG IN COMMUNICATION THAT PAPER, UM, YOU KNOW, WAS PREFERABLE THERE AS WELL.
SO THIS IS JUST SOMETHING IN BETWEEN MAKING THIS CARD, WHICH IS REALLY NICE LOOKING BY THE WAY THE AGENT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO LET'S OKAY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO, UM, I THINK WE CAN USE BOTH.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER AS, UM, DO YOU SAY WHAT THE GIRLS AND BOYS CLUB, YOU KNOW, UM, THEY MIGHT BE MORE COMFORTABLE USING THE CORD AND THE TECHNOLOGY.
UM, SO WE'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, SEE I'M LOOKING AT, UM, INCREASING PARTICIPATION.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET WITH HIM.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO SUGGEST THIS, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY HAD THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT FOR MAYBE PAPER COPIES OVER AT THE VOLTS? NO, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THE HEALTH CENTER.
UM, STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, HAVING AN ANIMAL ADULTS COMING IN AND OUT THERE AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER GOOD, I THINK IT WILL BE A GOOD SUGGESTION.
UM, WELL, TIMEFRAME NOW IS IF THOSE FORMS WAS GIVEN OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND EACH STUDENT, YOU KNOW, WAS GIVEN A FORM TO TAKE HOME.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I HAVE
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TO DISCUSS WITH JAY.I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL WE TALKED ABOUT.
THAT CHARGES HAS BEEN ANOTHER THING, JUST KIND OF FOCUSING, WE GOT FOCUSED ON THE TWO EVENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE UPCOMING AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, WE COULD REACH PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE-ON-ONE AND, UH, AND ENGAGE THAT WAY.
AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, NOT THE BALL CENTER, BUT YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, UM, AND CHURCHES, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTIONS.