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THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR COMING TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.THANK YOU TO OUR, UH, COULD WE JUST PUT YOUR SACRIFICE FOR TIME AND FOR ALL OF OUR PUBLIC THIS EVENING FOR THEIR TIME FOR ME TO HEAR A DFS, SO, SO MUCH FOR THE THIRD FOR, UH, COMMUNITY NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS.
SO, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH OUR ROLL CALL WITH, UH, VICE CHAIR, UH, HERE FOR TONIGHT, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO DO OUR GUIDELINES.
ALRIGHTY, MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONER MORGAN HERE.
COMMISSIONER TRIP, COMMISSIONER WALKER, COMMISSIONER WALLACE, COMMISSIONER, YOUNG CHAIR LEE VICE-CHAIR PARANOID SPEAR, UH, EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS, ALDERMAN BENGAL, UH, ALDERMAN, BEST ALDERMAN HARRIS HERE.
WE HAVE A QUORUM MADAM CHAIRMAN.
AND TO START OFF WITH ME TO START OFF WITH THIS, UH, PAST PRESENT FUTURE EQUAL TIME, IT WOULDN'T BE COMMISSIONER JOE.
OH, UM, RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS.
UM, LISTEN TO BUILD CONSENSUS, SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION, PUBLIC PERCEPTION.
I HAVE TO READ IT LAST TWO COMMISSIONERS ARE I BELIEVE, I THINK THAT
[2. Authorize Ujima Developers to Proceed with Phase 2 of 4/28/2021 Consultant Agreement, Community Design, and Implementation]
ONLY HAVE ONE AGENDA ITEM, UH, TONIGHT AND THAT, UH, AGENDA ITEM IS PHASE TWO OF THE, UH, DELIBERATE.AND SO, UM, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING, UM, THAT I HOPE EVERYONE HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK BACK AT SOME OF THE THINGS, UM, UM, THAT, UM, DR.
CALDWELL HAD SEEN IN THE ONLY THAT WE'RE HERE FOR A LOT OF OUR DISCUSSIONS ARE EITHER MET WITH, WITH HIM, UM, YOU KNOW, BACKGROUND AND BEING ABLE TO EAT HERE, UH, WITH THE, UH, COMMUNITY.
SO I'M GOING TO START WITH DISCUSSION TONIGHT AND THEN WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
AND, UM, THE
DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS, THE THOUGHTS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO QUESTIONS AND THEN TAKE IT FROM THERE.
I FEEL BETTER AFTER WE HAD OUR DISCUSSION WITH ABOUT WHAT THE ACTUAL, SO SINCE I WAS BORN THAT DISCUSSION, I LIKED THAT I LIKED THAT LAST, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT MINNESOTA VIKINGS,
UM,
CALDWELL, UH, THINK WE'VE GOT THIS FOCUS DOWN TO WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE.
UM, THERE WERE A LOT, A LOT OF THE EARLIER EMPHASIS HAD BEEN TO, UH, THE LAUNDRY PROGRAM AND WE KIND OF CHANGED THAT FOCUS TO ORIENT MORE ON HOUSING ISSUES AND DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING PRODUCT, UH, THERE.
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THE OTHER ISSUE THAT, THAT WE HAD BEEN HAVING TROUBLE WITH WAS THE EXCLUSIVITY ISSUE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.AND, UH, WE CHANGED THE LANGUAGE IN THE DELIVERABLE TO BE THAT WE WILL ENTER INTO WITH GOOD FAITH AND TRY TO WORK OUT A DEAL FOR THEM TO BE THE DEVELOPER OF THE PRODUCT, IF, AND WHEN WE CAN COMMIT TO DO THAT.
AND, UM, HE SEEMED TO BE AGREEABLE TO THAT.
UM, AND LIKE I SAY, IT'S A GOOD FAITH EFFORT ON THEIR PART AS WELL AS OURS TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WORKS FOR US AND FOR HIM, UH, NO ABSOLUTE GUARANTEE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE IN GOOD FAITH AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, JUST KIND OF GOING A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS AS OF ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE, THE HOUSING GROUP THAT HAS HAD THE MORE INTRICATE DISCUSSIONS, UH, WITH DR.
UH, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A, A LOGICAL AND REASONABLY PRICED NEXT STEP FOR WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND WHERE WE WANT TO GET TO, UM, HE'S LISTENED TO OUR CONCERNS, ADDRESS THEM ACCORDINGLY, AS FAR AS THE FOCUS OF THE PROJECT GOES, UM, IS EVIDENCED BY THE TURNOUT FOR A SPECIAL CALL BEING ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME EXCITEMENT AND INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY FOR WORKING WITH HIM.
UM, SO, UH, I FEEL LIKE THIS WAS A, A GOOD STEP, A GOOD NEXT STEP THAT IS REASONABLY PRICED WITH FAIR DELIVERABLES INTO THE WHILST OPERATING KIND OF BOOT FORWARD IN A WAY THAT IS LOGICAL AND REASONABLE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? YES MA'AM.
SO I'M JUST, UH, HOW WILL THAT THE CO-DESIGN SESSION BE SET UP WITH COMMUNITY? WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SORRY, HE'S GIVING ME TAPE TO GIVE ME HOPE THEN ONCE IT'S, UM, ONCE WE'RE APPROVED, WE'LL WANT TO WORK OUT THOSE DETAILS.
UM, PROBABLY BE SOME KIND OF HYBRID, UM, TRAIN SIMILAR TO A CHARRETTE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE HABIT WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH COMMUNITY ON SITE.
HE WILL BE HERE AND HE WILL BE HERE.
UH, WE'LL HAVE OPTIONS FOR IN PERSON AND PROBABLY SOME SORT OF ONLINE ENGAGEMENT YOU DETERMINING WHERE IT'LL BE SOMEBODY SPLIT THEM, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE BASED ON AREA.
WE'RE GOOD TO GO AFTER TONIGHT IT GETS APPROVED AND THEN I CAN CALL HIM AND HE SAY, LET'S GO.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE HIM ONE OF THE THREE THAT HAS THOUGHTS OR WISHES OR DESIRES OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT TO SHARE THOSE AS PART OF THIS.
SO THEY CAN BE FACTORED INTO THE EQUATION NOW.
AND WE ASK JAMIE IF EVERYTHING'S HUNKY DORY WITH THIS PROCESS AND WHERE WE'RE GOING.
SO IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE FIRST THREE BULLET POINTS ARTICULATED ON THE AGENDA, UM, SEEMED TO BE FAIRLY CONCRETE.
UM, THE LAST BULLET POINT ABOUT ENTERING INTO THE PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPERS TO BE THE BUILDER DEVELOPMENT FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS PROJECT, DEPENDING ON THE COST OF THE CONTRACT PRICE MAY BE SUBJECT TO, UM, STATUTORY AND BIDDING PROVISIONS.
SO I DON'T WANT, UM, UJIMA DR.
CARDWELL OR THESE COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE IT IN THEIR MINDS, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE AN AGREEMENT DIRECTLY WITH HIM WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THOSE ADDITIONAL STATUTORY PROCEDURES.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS LANGUAGE THAT'S ON THE AGENDA WILL BE SENT TO DR.
CALDWELL OR HOW THE DELIVERABLES WILL BE CODIFIED AS FAR AS THE CONTRACT GOES.
UM, BUT IT MAY BE NECESSARY TO CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE AND THE FOURTH BULLET POINT, JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE INTENTIONS ARE AND ALSO, UM, THE LIMITS TO WHICH THE COMMISSION CAN COMMIT ITSELF FOR.
AND I THINK, UH, UH, VICE CHAIR AND SPOKE ABOUT ALL IT SPOKE ABOUT THAT HE UNDERSTOOD.
AND I THINK IN WRITING YES, BUT AT THAT COMPENSATION WAS THE ONLY DEAL.
I MEAN, THE WAY JAMIE EXPLAINED IT, I THINK DR.
CALDWELL NEEDS TO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, AND I'M HONEST WITH YOU, IF THE CONTRACT PRICE FOR CONSTRUCTION, THE DEVELOPMENTAL DESIGN PHASE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARILY
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CONCERNED, BUT AS FAR AS BUILDING ANY CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT IN EXCESS OF 500,000, PUT THE FORMAL BIDDING PROCESS, INFORMAL BIDDING PROCESS IS $300,000.UM, AND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROCESSES, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BID OUT IF THE CONTRACT FINDS EXCEEDS $300,000, WHICH I'M NOT SURE BASED ON CONSTRUCTION.
SO, YEAH, THERE'S A WHOLE LESS CONSTRUCTION ONLY.
SO JUST THINKING IN THE FUTURE ABOUT HIM OR HIS COMPANY, BEING A DEVELOPER, IF THE CONTRACT PRICE IS GOING TO BE AN EXCESS OF $300,000, THEN HE WOULD BE SUBJECT OR ANYONE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THAT INFORMAL BIDDING PROCESS.
AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL PARTIES UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY AGREEMENTS ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE HAVE CODIFIED.
QUESTIONS CONCERNING THAT FOR THE COMMISSION, HOW ARE WE GOING TO LET DR.
COWELL KNOW THAT IN DETAIL OR, I MEAN, JAMIE JUST SAID IT IN THREE SENTENCES, SEND AN EMAIL.
I MEAN, HE UNDERSTANDS THAT PROCESS MANY TIMES WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS UP IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY, WE CAN'T GET OBLIGED TO ANYTHING.
IT IS HUD MONEY HAS TO BE, HAS TO BE BID OUT.
SO THAT'S IRRESPECTIVE OF REALLY ANY DOLLAR SPENT, YOU UNDERSTAND ALL THOSE, THOSE PROCESSES.
SO IT'S NOT JUST 300,000 OR 500,000, PRETTY MUCH ANY TIME YOU USE HUD MONEY, THERE'S A, THERE'S A BIDDING PROCESS.
WE NEED TO GO THROUGH IT ON THE GAS, BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BAM, YOU KNOW, IF HE COMES, HE'S NOT THE BUILDER, YOU KNOW? UM, SO THESE, SOME KIND OF ALL THE OTHER CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES ARE GOING TO BE BID OUT.
SO IT'S JUST PART OF THE NORMAL PROCESS.
YOU JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO COMPETE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HE'LL BE AT A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE CONSIDERING HE'S GONE THROUGH ALL OF THEM PROCESS.
BUT WE CAN SEE IT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ROBBIE AND SEND HIM AN EMAIL.
AND THEN THAT WAY WE HAVE A TRACKING THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM,
CALDWELL OR SOME REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GENOME AND THE DESIGNEE FROM THIS COMMISSION TO SIGN THAT ONE DOT.
IT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION TO VOTE IN FAVOR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
SO THE PLEASURE TO MAKE A MOTION, TO APPROVE THE BASE, TO DELIVERABLES AND AUTHORIZE HIM TO SEE YOUR FACE TO THE CONSULTANT AGREEMENT.
IS THE MOTION REALLY BASED ON WHAT JAMIE SAID TO DEVELOP MORE PRECISE DELIVERABLE LANGUAGE, UH, TO BE IN THE PHASE TWO APPROVAL.
CAUSE I WAS WONDERING IF WE NEED TO, UH, NEED TO ADD THAT INTO THE MOTION OR WE NEED TO DO THAT OR HOW WE, HOW WE NEED TO DO IT BECAUSE THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
AND THE MAIN REASON IS BECAUSE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD STEWARDS.
AND THEN THE OTHER REASON SO THAT EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.
WHEN A QUESTION COMES UP LATER, WE'LL BE FAST.
OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.
IT WAS TO ADD TO FOURTH, UM, DELIVERABLE, STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS ON, BECAUSE I THINK THE DELIBERATE CHANGE, IT'S JUST ADDING THE REQUIREMENT
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THAT WILL BE HELD TO THE MAKE SURE HE UNDERSTANDS IT.HOPEFULLY THAT'S NOT A GAME CHANGER FOR HIM, BUT IT MIGHT BE.
IT'S HARD TO BE IN WRITING AND SIGNED BY ALL PARTIES.
SO I GUESS THE FORMAL MOTION BASED ON WHAT I'VE JUST HEARD FROM THE GROUP WOULD BE WE AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR TO MOVE FORWARD WITH UPDATING THE AGREEMENT, WHETHER JIMA FOR THE FIRST THREE BULLET POINTS LISTED OUT ON THE AGENDA, MODIFYING THE FOURTH BULLET POINT TO READ, FOLLOWING THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PROCESS WITH JAMIE AND THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WILL ENTER INTO A GOOD FAITH, WILL ENTER IN GOOD FAITH TO DEVELOP AN AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO STATUTORY REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER JIMA TO BE THE BUILDER OR DEVELOPER OF THE PROJECT.
JUST LITERALLY THE POINT, THE POINT BULLET POINT IN FRONT OF YOU WITH SUBJECT TO STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, I WOULD PUT A STATUTORY SUBJECT TO STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AT THE END AND IN GOOD FAITH IN TERMS OF GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS REGARDING BEING A POTENTIAL BUILDER OR DEVELOPER OF THE PROJECT, SUBJECT TO STATUTORY BIDDING AND CAMERA'S RUNNING MOST.
YES MA'AM WHATEVER AND STRICKLAND WAS FOLLOWING THE CONCEPTIONAL CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PROCESS.
YOU MAY INTERVIEW THOUGH, THE COMMISSION WILL ENTER INTO GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING UJIMA DEVELOPERS BEING THE POTENTIAL BUILDER DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER OF THE PROJECT, SUBJECT TO STATUTORY BIDDING REQUIREMENTS.
YES, JERRY, THIS IS A MATTER OF LANGUAGE.
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO PUT IT IN.
I MEAN, THAT'S A THAT'S UNDERSTANDING.
SO I THINK THAT'S A REDUNDANT AND PROBABLY NOT NECESSARY, BUT THE LEGAL COUNSEL COULD TELL US WHETHER THAT SHOULD NECESSARILY.
I FEEL LIKE THAT GOOD VAPE WAS THROWN IN THERE TOO, ESSENTIALLY ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING THAT THE SUBJECT TO STUDENTS, STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS WAS MEETING ON THE BACK END.
SO THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT LANGUAGE WITH PATIENT EFFICIENT WOULD SEEM TO ME TO BE, UH, GOOD PHAGE IS NOT NECESSARY.
IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, BUT IT DOESN'T NEGATE ANYTHING.
SO LET'S JUST STYLISTIC QUESTION.
SINCE THAT'S, WHAT'S BEEN IN FRONT OF HIM THUS FAR AND WHAT HE'S DONE AT HOME SUBJECT TO THIS LAST PAIR, OR LAST THREE WORDS BEING ADDED ON SUBJECT TO THE REGULATION, DODD, I'M INCLINED TO LEAVE IT IN REDUNDANT OVER AS I'LL SECOND.
IN FRONT OF DISCUSSION QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A DIRECTOR WE WILL GET TO HEAR FROM YOU AFTER YOU SPEAK WITH TEQUILA, LET US KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT NEEDS TO BE GATHERED JANUARY, ROB, THE PHONE CALL.
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OH, BUSINESS.UM, IS THIS SO CORONER'S REPORT FOR 600 TO GASTON MOVER SCHEDULING THE MOVE SOMETIME THIS WEEK, WEDNESDAY, IT'S STILL THERE AND IT'S MAKING SOUND.
SO HE'S GOING TO SCHEDULE TIME WITH ME LAST WEEK.
UH, WHEN QUARTERS REPORT, HE SAID, LET HIM SIT ABOUT A WEEK.
THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK BEFORE HE SAID SO SOMETIME THIS WEEK, WHICH GET THIS MOVING GOING.
BUT IT WAS STILL THERE FOR THAT STUFF AS
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THE, UH, CAN WE ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE KENNETH ALLEN PROJECT GOT IT? OKAY.IT'S UNDERWAY WITH THE BUSES ARE GETTING TITLE INSURANCE FOR THE PROXIMITY.
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I THINK I'VE BEEN AT CONTRACT GIVE US 30 DAYS TO CLOSE.I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL HAVE OUR CHILD MATURE POLICIES NEXT WEEK.
CAN WE GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN, SECOND CONDITION.