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[1. 6:00pm: Welcome and roll call]

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SACRIFICE THE GUEST SERVICES FOR COMING AND ALL AS ALWAYS STAFF AS WELL.

THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH.

AND SO WE WELCOME YOU TO THE ROLL CALL.

SURE.

COMMISSIONER MORGAN, MAKE SURE IT'S STRICTLY COMMISSIONER OF TRIP.

MR. WALKER, MR. WALLACE COMMISSIONER YOUNG.

YEAH.

CHAIRMAN LEE PARAGUAY HERE IN BANCO.

ALDERMAN HARRIS.

WE HAVE FORUM.

OKAY.

COULD WE HAVE A READING OF OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES? UM, PAST PRESENT FUTURE.

OH, THERE'S OPINION.

LISTEN TO BUILD CONSENSUS, UM, SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION, PUBLIC PERCEPTION.

THANK YOU.

SO YOU BOTH BE ACTION ORIENTED BELIEVE LIKE TO AMEND THE ROLL CALL THAT COMMISSIONER MORGAN HAD SHOWED UP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE WILL TAKE IT LATER SURE.

OKAY.

[3. Ujima Development/Dr. Leon Caldwell (Zoom)]

SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DEDUCTION AND MR. CALDWELL BROUGHT HIM IN ASSIST US WITH VIDEO VISIONING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF A, PROBABLY MORE THAN A HOUSING PLAN PLAN AS PART OF IT.

BUT LEON HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN BUILDING COMMUNITIES AND BUILDING PEOPLE.

UM, SO HE'S REALLY A GREAT FIT.

I WAS WORKING WITH HIM FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS, UM, TEACH HIM ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE NEEDS AREAS.

UM, AND SO I FIGURED THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME.

UH, LEON WILL BE HERE, UM, THE 30TH AND THE FIRST HE'LL BE PART OF OUR CLEANUP WOULD BE TELLING ME I'M MEETING CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, GETTING INTO, YOU KNOW, GETTING THEIR FIELD AND THEIR TAKE ON WHAT LEAD DEVELOPMENT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS ARE.

UM, AND THEN HE'LL BE GOING BACK AND HELPING US WITH OUR VISIONING AND PLANNING FOR WHAT OUR NEW HOUSING PROGRAM WILL LOOK LIKE.

SO HE HAS HIS OWN COMPANY AND HE'S GOT A LOT, I'VE SENT YOU THE LINK TO HIS WEBSITE.

I HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

HE'S DONE SOME REALLY GREAT STUFF.

SO REALLY JUST A, AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR Q AND A, UH, FOR LEON TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF.

UM, TELL US ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE AND HOW I BROUGHT HIM IN IS REALLY TO DO TWO PARTS.

FIRST PART IS REALLY COME IN AT THE END OF THE MONTH AND ENGAGE WITH SOME COMMUNITY LEADERS.

UM, THE SECOND PART OF THAT, WE'LL BE TAKING THAT INFORMATION BACK AND THEY'LL BE COMING BACK LATER ON AND REALLY ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AGAIN IN MORE OF A STRATEGIC VISIONING SESSIONS, UM, KIND OF RE-IMAGINING OUR FIRST AVENUE PARCEL OUR FIRST STREET PARCEL FIRST AVENUE, FOSSILS ON WHAT THAT DEVELOPMENT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT IT SHOULD FUNCTION, UM, AND REALLY WHAT WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE END GOAL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

SO NEON BRINGS AN INCREDIBLE MONITOR EXPERIENCE AND PERSPECTIVE AS FAR AS THE WHOLE HOLISTIC APPROACH TO COMMUNITY BUILDING.

UM, AND I'LL JUST, I'LL KICK IT OVER LEON UP.

ANYBODY'S UP AS A NEW BERN NATIVE PER SE, UH, WITH HIM, UH, PART OF HIS TEAM.

AND, UH, SO LEON, I'LL KICK IT TO YOU AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND COMPANY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR IDEAS.

WE'LL JUST HAVE A LITTLE BACK AND FORTH FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON.

SO THANK YOU.

SURE.

HELLO.

THANKS JEFF.

FOR THE INTRODUCTION.

UM, LET'S SEE.

MY, UH, PARTNER WORD IS ACTUALLY ON AS WELL.

I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS KIND OF ALL PART OF THE COMMUNITY, EVEN PROCESS FOR, UH, KIND OF THE BRAND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT I DO.

SO I'M DR.

LEON CALDWELL.

UM, I'M THE FOUNDER AND MANAGING PARTNER OF JIMA DEVELOPERS, G MODES THAT ARE REALLY WORTH IT TO ME, COLLECTIVE

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WORK AND RESPONSIBILITY WITH IT'S REALLY A PRINCIPLE FOR ME ON HOW I ACTUALLY LOOK AT COMMUNITY CHANGE, REALLY COMMUNITY TRANSFORMATION.

UM, I HAVE, UH, HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING IN VARIOUS SECTORS OVER MY CAREER.

I STARTED OUT AS A PROFESSOR.

I WAS TENURED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA LINCOLN.

UM, MY PHD IS IN COUNSELING PSYCHOLOGY, ALTHOUGH MY UNDERGRAD DEGREE IS IN ECONOMICS.

UM, AND FROM BEING A FACULTY OVER SEVERAL YEARS INTO A UNIVERSITY OF MEMPHIS AND I WROTE COLLEGE AND THEN WAS RECRUITED REALLY OUT OF ACADEMIA.

PEOPLE THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY.

OH, I STILL THINK I'M CRAZY.

ANYWAY, FROM LEAVING, I ATTENDED TRACKED OUT FOR TWO TENURED POSITION TO GO INTO PHILANTHROPY.

SO I SPENT SIX YEARS WORKING NASHVILLE, PHILANTHROPY, UM, AS A SENIOR RESEARCHER, UH, BEING DIRECTOR AND, UM, MOSTLY DOING EVALUATION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WORK ABROAD.

I'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK.

AND IF YOU'VE GOT JUSTICE SPACE AND COMMUNITY CHANGE WITH PUBLIC TRANSITIONED OUT OF THAT, UM, OUT OF REALLY FRUSTRATION TO BE QUITE HONEST OF HOW MUCH MONEY WAS PUT INTO A LOT OF, UH, PHILANTHROPY OR FROM A LOT OF LAND IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT SEEMS TO BE LIKE VERY LITTLE CHANGE.

THE INCREMENTAL INTERCHANGE WAS VERY FRUSTRATING TO ME.

AND, UM, NOT ONLY THAT, IT SEEMED TO BE THAT THE FUNDING WAS GOING TO, UM, NOT THE REAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR PEOPLE WHO HAD SOME, SOME SENSE OF AGENCY AROUND WHAT CHANGE OF TRANSFORMATION MEANT FOR THEM IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES.

SO A LOT OF CIMA AS A REALLY A BOX OF THINKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN, IN THE SENSE THAT THIS, FOR ME, IT'S INTERVENTION, IT'S ANOTHER FLEET WHERE, UH, LIKE HUMANITY IS EXISTS AND PEOPLE, UH, ARE IN A POSITION TO, TO CHANGE THEIR OWN LIVES.

SO WE'RE, OUR MODELS ARE REALLY ABOUT TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO FISH.

WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT REALLY BIG ON, UM, SAY ANOTHER WAY, WE'RE IN A MORE POSITIVE WAY WE WANT TO PROMOTE SELF-DETERMINATION.

UM, AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY A BOOTSTRAP, BUT IT IS TO SAY THAT THERE IS A WAY WITH, UM, WHEN SYSTEMS PUBLIC SYSTEMS SUPPORT, UM, BOTH THE ACCESS TO CAPITAL AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITY THEN, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE WITH THE RIGHT RESOURCES, THE RIGHT SUPPORT THAT EVERYBODY CAN THRIVE.

SO, UH, MY DEVELOPMENT MODELS INCORPORATE TWO MAIN STRATEGIES THAT I FOUNDED THE PHILADELPHIA WE'RE GOING TO FILL UP IN BALTIMORE.

UM, AND THOSE STRATEGIES ARE AROUND ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND HEALTH AND WELLBEING.

THOSE TWO THINGS IN MY RESEARCH AND MY BACKGROUND WITH DORIS, BOTH PUBLIC HEALTH WORK AND EDUCATION WORK.

UM, THOSE ARE OFTENTIMES THE, NOT THE ONLY THING, BUT THOSE TWO THINGS ARE MISSING WHEN, UM, EITHER GOVERNMENT COMES IN INTO BEING, UH, OR PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEMS COME IN TO INTERVENE.

UH, IT'S VERY, UM, IN, IN MY WORK I'VE SEEN, UH, WERE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL MODELS ARE PLACES WHERE THERE'S TRUE EXCHANGE, ACCOUNTABILITY AND ENGAGEMENT OF THE PUBLIC PRIVATE AS WELL AS PEOPLE, UH, IN THEIR OWN KIND OF DEPTH, OR REALLY IMPLORE ME WHAT IT IS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THEMSELVES, UM, NOT THIS WHOLE, BUT SUSTAINABLE.

SO I, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS I'VE DONE IN THE PAST HAVE INCORPORATED MORE HOLISTIC MODELS AND WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, THEY'RE CURRENTLY, UH, BUILDING IN PHILADELPHIA, UH, AN AGE-FRIENDLY VILLAGE, UH, WHICH IS A MULTI-GENERATIONAL HOUSING FEED.

I STARTED THAT PROJECT WITH, UH, REALLY A CONCEPT PAPER.

I WROTE FOR ARP ON A HOP TO REDESIGN A ROADHOUSE TO AGE IN PLACE, UH, MUSCLE BUILDING A 17,000 SQUARE FOOT MAKER SPACE IN A FLEXIBILITY, WHICH IS REALLY A, UH, DESIGN FOR ECONOMIC MOBILITY BY ATTACKING PEOPLE WITH SKILLS, BOTH, UH, ESSENTIAL NAVIGATION SKILLS, WHICH WE USED TO CALL SOFT SKILLS AND TEXTBOOK SKILLS FOR THE FUTURE OF WORK.

UH, WE'RE ALSO DOING A PRIVATE IN BALTIMORE WHERE WE'RE, UH, DEVELOPING, UH, SIX ROW HOUSES TO BE AGE FRIENDLY, UM, OF THE PREVIOUSLY AT THE SEVEN ROW HOUSES IN BALTIMORE, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

UH, AND YOU KNOW,

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THE, THE, THE RANGE OF PROJECTS I WOULD SAY, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

UH, SO MY PORTFOLIO IS PRETTY INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT FOCUSING ON A PARTICULAR TYPE, BUT ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON IT'S USE OF THE TYPE.

AND THAT'S THE PART WHERE KIND OF MY BRAND DEVELOPMENT, UH, IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE.

AND IT ALSO ALLOWED ME TO BRING IN, UH, I WOULD SAY COLLATERAL, UH, THAT'S WHAT I SAY.

IT ALLOWED ME TO BRING IN A SUPPORT SERVICES OR AT LEAST THINK ABOUT HOW THEY GO INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT THEY DON'T LIKE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MY CONVERSATION WITH, UH, WITH, WITH JEFF IN THIS PROJECT, YOU, I THINK NEW, BRIGHT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE, UH, WHAT YOU TALKED TO THE SIDE, IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED, UM, AND TO BE QUITE ARTISTS B YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING FORWARD THINKING ABOUT, UH, 50, EVEN THE CONCEPT OF TAKING FOLKS FROM PUBLIC HOUSING STUFF ABOUT HOW THEY, AND SUPPORTING THEM IN BECOMING HOMEOWNERS, RIGHT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST KIND OF RENT TO OWN, BUT IT'S, HOW DO YOU PUT IN ALL THE SYSTEMS IN PLACE WHERE ONE BECOMES, UM, KIND OF HOLISTICALLY AVAILABLE OR, UM, WELL CREATED THROUGH HOME OWNERSHIP? SO I ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVING GROWN UP IN WEST PHILADELPHIA AND ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY, UM, I KNOW FIRSTHAND WHAT POVERTY LOOKS LIKE, UM, ALSO KNOW FIRSTHAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE SUPPORTED, UH, AND ALSO, UH, REALLY LEVERAGED TO GET, UH, RESOURCES THAT MAKE ME WHO I AM TODAY.

AND IN SOME WAYS IT'S HELPED ME AS THE LAND, MEANING HOW TO GIVE BACK.

UM, I'M REALLY PLEASED.

UH, YOU KNOW, MY PARTNER HERE IN NEW BERLIN IS IRONICALLY, UH, TRENTON WAS, UM, NORTH CAROLINA, UH, NATIVE.

SO WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, PARTNER PROJECT IS IN PHILLY AND I'M SORRY, WAS BALTIMORE.

UH, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO, I MET A PARTNER IN, IN, UH, MARYLAND, I MEAN, IN, UH, NORTH CAROLINA.

ARE YOU GUYS STILL THERE? YEAH.

YEAH.

YOU LOST YOUR VIDEO STOP COMING THROUGH BECAUSE YOU LOST BANDWIDTH, BUT WE CAN HEAR YOU FINE.

OKAY, GREAT.

JUST KNOW WE WON'T HEAR MODALITY TOPICS CAUSE WE'RE ONLY CURRENTLY PASSIONATE TO HERE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THE DELL, OKAY.

IT'S BEEN A BIT OF RAIN HERE AND IT'S CLOUDY AND OVERCAST, SO I APOLOGIZE ALL BY NOW TAKING A BIT LONGER DEALT WITH TRACK.

OKAY.

SO I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.

UM, JEFF, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU THINK I SHOULD COVER? UM, I'M A VIRGO.

UM, SO YEAH, WE'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT I, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY WANT YOU TO TOUCH ON THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE LAUNCH PAD AND WHAT THAT MEANS A NEW NEWBORN AND KIND OF COME TO THAT, WHAT THAT MEANS HERE.

YEAH.

THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, I, I'VE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I'M OFTEN MOTIVATED BY PET AND SOME OF MY BEST INNOVATIONS COME, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M ASKING LIKE TWO OR THREE QUESTIONS, IT REALLY GETS AT THE ROOT CAUSE OF THINGS.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, HAS BEEN A PET PEEVE OF MINE IS LIKE, WE DON'T INVEST IN BREAKING THE CYCLE OF POVERTY.

TYPICALLY THE EVENT MAINTAINING WAS THE STAINING, THE CYCLE OF POVERTY.

AND ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES HERE IS TO ACTUALLY INVEST IN BREAKING THE CYCLE OF POWER.

SO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS HOW DO YOU TAKE, UM, A PERSON WHO IS KIND OF DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS, THEY'RE ENGAGED IN WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.

UM, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A KIND OF HEALTHY ALTERNATIVES TO LIVING OR HEALTHY WAYS OF LIVING.

UM, THEY, UH, ARE PAYING THEIR RENT ON TIME, UH, MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE RENTING.

AND IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALL THESE PIECES THAT SOMEBODY MAY GO OR HAVE A PICTURE OF THESE PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, THE, I HAD FAMILY MEMBERS LIKE THIS AND MYSELF AND WHAT THEY NEED IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BREAK OUT OF THE CYCLE.

IT,

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FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WE'RE THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, AND REALLY QUESTIONING THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP, UM, LOOKING AT HOW PEOPLE HAD TO GET A DEBT FROM WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL DEBT OR SCHOOL DEBT, OR JUST PREDATORY LENDING FROM CREDIT CARDS AND THESE OTHER THINGS.

BUT ONCE IT, INSTEAD, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GET OUT OF.

RIGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT WHEN YOU CLOSE CREDIT CARD, YOUR SCORE GOES DOWN.

THE NAME WAS LIKE, WHY I DON'T WANT CREDIT.

UM, I'D RATHER BE CASH AND CARRY, BUT THE MINUTE I TOOK THESE TWO CARDS, I HAD MY SCORES DROPPING 120 POINTS.

BUT IF YOU DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THAT I HAVE TO GO TO A CREDIT COUNSELOR, I JUST GET EDUCATED ON HOW CREDIT WORKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN ROCKETING THAT DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.

AND I THINK WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS, IS TO CREATE A KIND OF A PUBLIC HOUSING RENTAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT BUILT ON CYCLING PEOPLE OR MAINTAIN THEM OVER 20 YEARS OF THE SAME KIND OF HOUSING, BUT TO THINK ABOUT, WELL, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR THAT SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION WHO JUST NEED THAT KIND OF FOOD OR INFORMATION TO MOVE FROM A RENTER INTO A HOME OWNERSHIP POSITION IT'S GIVING ALL THE RIGHT SUPPORT.

SO THIS IDEA THAT THEY WILL ARE LAUNCHING INTO LIKE HOME OWNERSHIP, THEY'RE LAUNCHING INTO A REALLY WEALTH CREATION THROUGH HOME OWNERSHIP, AND THEY'RE MARCHING INTO BEING BETTER PREPARED FOR ECONOMIC MOBILITY, I THINK IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT.

AND WHAT I LIKE ABOUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT WITH, UH, ALL OF THEM, IN WORDS, UM, ALL THE, THIS IS REALLY PUSHING THE ENVELOPE ON, UM, WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE AND HAVING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, SEEING THE POSSIBILITIES, LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S EVER GRABBED YOUR HAND IN THE NAVY, SHOW YOU HOW TO DO THIS.

CHANCES ARE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.

UM, WE USE NOT, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO USE, DON'T KNOW HOW TO, SO WE SAY FIVE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THIS INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF LIKE A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

UM, YOU CAN LITERALLY CYCLE PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY.

SO OVER TIME YOU SHOULD HAVE A SHRINKAGE IN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ECONOMICALLY DRAINING THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN THEY TURN INTO TAXPAYERS, THEY TURN INTO, UH, HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE TAKING CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

IT TURNED INTO, YOU KNOW, JUST GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, CIVIC MINDED INDIVIDUALS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE REQUIREMENTS.

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE THIS IN OTHER PLACES.

UH, BUT WHAT IS UNIQUE IS THAT THE, THE, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS OR THE GOVERNMENT COMMISSION ENGAGEMENT IN, AT THIS LEVEL, UH, IS DONE BY A NONPROFIT AGENCY THAT COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, YOU OUGHT TO DO THIS WITH PEOPLE, BUT FOR A CITY TO TAKE THIS ON.

UM, IS THAT SO MUCH YOU NEED IN THIS MODEL? OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A QUESTION, MR. JOHN YOUNG, DR.

CALDWELL, I'M JOHN, JOHN.

AND, UM, WE HAVE A POLITICAL PHRASE IN NORTH CAROLINA THAT SAYS, POLITICIANS SAY, WHO'S THE OLDEST RENT IN THE BARN.

I'M THE OLDEST RENT THE BARN HERE.

AND, UM, I STARTED, MY CAREER WAS MODEL CITIES IN THE SIXTIES.

AND I HEAR THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT WE USE IN THE SIXTIES THAT YOU WERE TELLING US.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE TELLS YOU.

THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE TRIED BEFORE.

HOW DO WE BREAK THIS OUT? HOW DO WE BREAK THIS CYCLE INSTEAD OF ADDING TO THE CYCLE? RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S, SO MODEL CITIES IS ACTUALLY A MODEL.

AND IF YOU, AND YOU KNOW THIS, BECAUSE YOU, YOU SAT AROUND THE TABLE AND BOOM, THE PEOPLE I KNOW WHO I WAS IN 670 AND TRY TO MODEL WHAT YOU DID NOT HAVE THAT YOU HAVE NOW, IT'S FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SUPPORT AND YOU HAVE MORE ROBUST, UM, WELL, THE CAPITAL SUPPORT.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, PUG, WASN'T PLAYING IN AN EQUITABLE GAME AS IT IS NOW.

AND, YOU KNOW, IN 2021, YOU KNOW, REDMINE, HE WAS STILL A BIG DEAL, RIGHT.

BUT WHO GOT CAPITAL, DIDN'T GET CAPITAL WAS STILL A BIG DEAL, THE DIVERSITY OF DEVELOPERS AND HOW, UM, AND, AND WHAT COMMUNITIES ACTUALLY, THE CONSTELLATION COMMUNITY THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO WERE WORKING IN THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON MODEL CITIES TO SEE THAT IF THESE THINGS CHANGE, UM, WITH GOVERNMENT SUPPORT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS LIMITED, THEN PEOPLE WOULD CHANGE.

THERE WAS ALSO, UM, GOING TO BE, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, THE INVESTMENT THAT WENT IN AND MODELED CITY AND LIKE PEOPLE FIRST, WHICH WAS A BIG PART OF WHAT, WHAT WAS HAPPENING, WHAT DIDN'T MATCH UP WAS THE LAND WAS BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY GOT LAID

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AND INTENSE AND YOU KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THIS, HAVING LESS DO IT.

UM, THE INTENT WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

IT WAS, LET'S GIVE PEOPLE A BUNCH OF SUPPORT SERVICES.

UM, WHAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER SYSTEM NECESSARILY THE COLLATERAL SYSTEMS NECESSARY TO BREAK THE CYCLE.

WEREN'T ALL IN PLACE AS THEY ARE IN 2021.

I MAY HAVE FALLEN OFF I, MY BACKGROUND IS PUBLIC HEALTH, AND THAT'S HOW I WAS IN, IN, IN MODEL CITIES WAS FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH PORN VIEWS AND READING YOUR WEBSITE.

AND I SEE THAT WELLBEING AND PUBLIC HEALTH ARE BIG.

YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU SPEND A LOT OF VERBIAGE ON THAT.

UM, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, HOW DO YOU INTEND TO DO THAT WITH THIS CRAZY MEDICAL SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, AND THE ALMOST NON-EXISTENT, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE? HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU ADD THAT? HOW DO YOU WEAVE THAT COMPONENT INTO, UH, BREAKING THE CYCLE? SO THERE IS A MEDICAL ASPECT OF PUBLIC HEALTH, WHICH IS WE CONSIDER THAT HEALTH CARE AND THE FOCUS ON HEALTHCARE CARE SYSTEM.

THEN THERE IS A COMMUNAL, UH, HEY BILL.

UM, THERE'S A COMMUNAL, UH, PART OF, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEMS, RIGHT? OR I'M SORRY, CAMILLE PART OF WELLNESS, WE FOCUS ON THE COMMUNAL ASPECT OF WEALTH.

THIS IS WHERE THE WHOLE NOTION OF SELF-DETERMINATION FROM, RIGHT.

UM, WHERE DO I ACTUALLY NEED A HEALTH SYSTEM TO TELL ME THAT, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZE PEOPLE TO TAKE WALKS FOR A COUPLE OF MILES OR TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, ADJUST MY DIET TO TAKE AWAY IS ABOUT DIABETIC.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING YOU DO NEED TO EAT HIGH QUALITY FOOD IN A PLACE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, SO THEY CAN COOK BETTER EAT BETTER, BUT YOU KNOW, AGRICULTURE ENVIRONMENT, IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU MODELED IT RIGHT, YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY GARDEN, YOU DON'T ACTUALLY NEED A HOSPITAL SYSTEM.

YOU DON'T NEED THE MEDICAL SYSTEM TO TELL YOU THAT.

SO I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE BETWEEN EXPECTATION OF WHAT WE, UM, REALLY DESERVED FROM A HEALTH SYSTEM, FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN WHAT THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY CAN DO FOR ITSELF TO ENSURE ITS OWN HEALTH.

SO, SO YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS ONE OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND NOT A MEDICAL SYSTEM AND THAT YOU, THAT YOU, UH, WE THEN HELPING PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN HEALTH.

IS THAT YOUR FOCUS? YEAH, THERE'S A, THERE IS A PIECE OF THE WORK THAT SAYS FROM BOTH A PRIVATE SECTOR MOVE THAT WE CAN HAVE, UM, MODELS OF COMMUNITY HEALTH THAT DO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FUNDED BY PUBLIC HEALTH.

SO IT'S REALLY THE TWIST OF THE WORD PUBLIC, RIGHT? SO PUBLIC FINANCE, RIGHT, OR PUBLIC MOTIVATE, AND YOU'VE RELIED TOO MUCH ON PUBLIC FINANCE.

I'M ALWAYS WAITING FOR YOUR GRANTS.

I'M ALWAYS, UH, WAITING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SYSTEM THAT TELLS ME WHAT TO DO VERSUS SAY, I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HEALTH WORKERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN SAY, IF YOU WALK A CERTAIN MAP THAT EATS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WORK TO DO X, Y, AND Z, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR DIABETES WOULD BE CONTROLLED OR MANAGE THEIR HYPERTENSION, THAT WE CONTROL THE MEDICINE THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT MODELS.

AND I THINK WE GET SOBER VINYL, ONE THAT WHEN I'M TRYING TO ESSENTIALLY DISRUPT THE NOTION OF, UM, UH, THE DEPENDENCY BASE, SO YOU WON'T BREAK THE CYCLE.

AND I THINK HE'S PROBABLY SAW THIS IN THE FIFTIES, YOU KNOW, IT REQUIRES PEOPLE TO BREAK THE CYCLE THAT ALWAYS, PROBABLY THE BREAK SIDE HAD YOU, HAD YOU HAD ANY SUCCESS IN, IN THE, IN THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU FORMED THE COMMUNITIES? SO, YES.

UH, IT HAD BEEN PLACED TO MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE, WHERE I STARTED A MOVEMENT ON SCHOOL COMMUNITY GARDENS.

UM, IT WAS SO SUCCESSFUL AT THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS NOW SHELBY COUNTY SCHOOLS, UH, ENDED UP, UM, ESSENTIALLY HIRING A SCHOOL BARBER.

UM, AFTER THEY RECRUITED A CHEF WHO WAS A FARM TO TABLE CHEF FROM NEW ORLEANS, HE ACTUALLY, UH, HE WAS RECRUITED TO BE THE SCHOOL'S DIETICIAN NUTRITIONIST.

UM, AND THEY TOOK ON THIS MOVEMENT.

I STARTED WITH MS. MARY, UH, IN NORTH MEMPHIS, UH, IN HER COMMUNITY GARDEN.

AND WE BRANCHED OUT IT REALLY STARTED TEACHING SCHOOL, CHILDREN AND TEACHERS.

IT WAS BECAME A WHOLE PEDAGOGICAL PIECE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN THE GARDENS, YOU CAN LEARN MATH, SCIENCE, STEM OPPORTUNITY BEFORE IT WAS REALLY SICK.

BUT THE POINT IS LIKE, IF YOU START THESE THINGS, THE SYSTEMS WILL CATCH

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UP.

BUT IF YOU ALWAYS WAIT FOR INNOVATION IN THE SYSTEM, YOU AIN'T GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN TO BE SOMEBODY JUST LOCKED, UNLESS YOU TIRED.

I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW THIS, YOU KNOW, AS THE OLD RAT ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE MORE, FIVE MORE MINUTES BEFORE WE DO THAT.

SO THEN IT'S GOING TO GO TO COMMISSIONER HALL GOING IN HERE, AND THEN IF ANYONE ELSE, DR.

CALDWELL THERE, THE MORGAN HERE, UM, QUICK QUESTION POVERTY IN BALTIMORE AND IN WEST PHILLY, HE HAD SOME LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM HOW IT DOES IN EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SMALLER MARKETS THAT YOU'VE BEEN UPON WORKING WITH TO HELP TO REDEVELOP THOSE AREAS? SO I WOULD SAY POVERTY MIGHT LOOK DIFFERENT, BUT IT FUNCTIONS THE THING, RIGHT? SO INSTEAD OF A ROW HOUSE, THAT'S 1200 SQUARE FEET HOLDING SIX PEOPLE THAT, UM, ARE WHEN THE JOB WAS UNINSURED.

UM, LIKE IN THE SAME IS, YOU KNOW, UH, 12,000 1200 SQUARE FOOT OR 5,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE IN NEWBURGH THAT HAS REALLY THE SAME THESIS, RIGHT.

PEOPLE, UH, JOB WAS UNINSURED.

SO THE OPTIONS ARE, OR THE OPPORTUNITY IS, UH, TO ESSENTIALLY BUILD OUT THE HOLISTIC TEAM AROUND HOW DO YOU THEN EITHER ATTRACT NEW BUSINESS OR CREATE YOUR OWN, UM, TO BREAK THE CYCLE OF INCOME, UH, UM, THIS BARRIER OR UNEMPLOYMENT, IF YOU WILL, THE SPARK AND FOOT, UH, MY SMALLEST MARKET I'VE WORKED AT HAS BEEN MISSING.

THAT'S WHERE I'VE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DONE MOST OF MY, UH, ACADEMIC, UH, WHERE I STARTED TO SET UP FOR THE ADVANCED THAT I USED DEVELOPMENT.

WE KIND OF WALKED, WORKED IN SOME OF THE RURAL AREAS OF NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI, UH, AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN MEMPHIS.

I HAVE NOT DONE ANY PRIVATE IN, IN NORTH CAROLINA OR EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA.

UM, ALTHOUGH, LIKE I SAID STARTED, MY COMMENT OFF IS LIKE POVERTY.

YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THAT.

THEY LOOK DIFFERENT, BUT IT FUNCTIONS THE SAME WAY IN THE LIVES OF PEOPLE THAT THINK.

YEAH.

MR. WARD VIEW HIS BARBIES FROM TREATING NORTH CAROLINA.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, GETTING FURTHER QUESTIONS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MORE QUESTIONS YOU MISS THE CALL? YEAH, I'LL BE HERE SO HE CAN HEAR IT.

UH, YES.

UH, I LIKED YOUR PRESENTATION AND, UM, WELL, I GO ONCE CAME FROM PRINT MATERIALS AND BECAME THE HOME OWNER AND HIS HEAD A LOT AND DO A MENTALITY.

WHAT I READ A WOMAN IN LIFE.

IT'S A STRUGGLE, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T WORRY ABOUT A STRUGGLE.

YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP ON MOVING.

AND, UM, ANOTHER THING I WAS NOTICING THAT I WAS READING IN THE PAPER ABOUT WHAT HE KNEW, HOW THE HOUSE BEAUTIFUL, ALL THE LOW INCOME, THE MEDIAN INCOME AND HIGHER INCOME.

I WAS READING FROM NEW JERSEY WHERE ROSA WAS DOWN.

SHE SOLD HER PROPERTY AND THEY HAD A 20% FOR LOW INCOME.

AND SO WHEN IT'S FOR LOW INCOME, THEY GO BACK, THEY, YOU KNOW WHAT INCOME THEY HAVE AND THEY GET ABOUT A THIRD OF THE INCOME.

BUT THE THING ABOUT IT WAS THOUGH IS THAT THEY HAD THE PEOPLE THAT WAS IN A LOW INCOME AREA.

THEY PUT THEM IN THE BACK AND IT'S PROBABLY BEEN A THING WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BLEND IN TOGETHER.

SO YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHO HAD WHAT, AND I'M HOPING THAT THE SAME THING WOULD'VE HAPPENED HERE IN THIS AREA.

YEAH.

THAT WON'T HAPPEN IN OUR AREA.

SO WE ARE BUILDING HIGH, PROBABLY HOME AS IF WE BUILD THE MANAGEMENT.

I'M NOT BUILT LIKE , UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR WE'RE DESIGNING HOUSES AND ENEMY TO BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING.

ONE THING I WAS REALLY CLEAR WITH JEFF AND THERE'S REASON WHY WE'RE KINDA DOING IT THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PRESENT DESIGN AND THE, THAT THAT MAKES SENSE ECONOMICALLY.

AND WE'LL HAVE THE COMMUNITY PICK THE DESIGN, WE'LL HAVE THREE OR FOUR, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, UH, RANGE.

AND THEN PART OF OUR ENGAGEMENT IS TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WANT.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE DAY ONE, UH, DUPLEXES ARE NOT LIKE, BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING, THEY'RE MORE ECONOMICAL THAT THEY WANT, UM, HOW THEY WANT, DO THEY WANT FORTUNATE OR NOT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS IT FITS IN THE ECONOMIC MODEL, WE WOULDN'T CHEAT PEOPLE OUT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE QUOTE UNQUOTE, LOW GAIN HOUSING.

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WE WOULDN'T CHEAT THEM OUT OF HIGH QUALITY DESIGN.

AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM WHERE IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE KNOCKED THE BANDAGE, UH, GET SECOND FIDDLE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, EAT SCRAPS.

AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT MY BIG, MY WORKSTATION OR MY MODEL.

YOU KNOW, THE THINGS WERE BUILDING OUT RIGHT NOW.

AND, UM, IN BALTIMORE, I MEAN, IT COULD BE SOLD FOR $340,000, BUT THEY'LL BE OVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, UH, 60, 40 TO 60% AMI.

SO I THINK THERE IS, UM, THERE IS A CORE BELIEF HAVING GROWN UP, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE WAY I GREW UP IN A RURAL HOUSE IN WEST PHILLY THAT WE DESERVE THE SAME TYPE OF HIGH QUALITY HOUSING WITH WHETHER IT'S SMART TECHNOLOGY OR NET ZERO HOUSING, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, UM, TO, TO, WITH THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY NEXT NIGHT THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO PUT IN A HOUSE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION, BUT BE ASSURED YOU KNOW, LIKE THE FOUR PEOPLE SIT IN THE BACK AND THE MORE POOR PEOPLE, RIGHT? LIKE IT'S KINDA NOT HOW WE'RE DESIGNING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN THINKING ABOUT THE PROJECT.

DR.

CALDWELL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. BOYD.

WE GOTTA MOVE ON, BUT THAT'S WE GOT ANOTHER PRESENTATION.

I'M SORRY.

WE HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION THAT THEY'LL WAIT THERE.

THEY'RE WAITING, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

IF YOU GIVE ME THAT QUESTION, THEN I WILL GET INTO JULLIARD.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I'M TRYING TO GET OFF SCREEN.

I HAD ANOTHER KID.

NO, ACTUALLY IT WAS A TWO-PART QUESTION, BUT I'LL WAIT TILL I MEET HIM, BUT I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE DOCTOR'S QUESTION ALSO BECAUSE HE, I THOUGHT HE WAS ASKING, HOW DO YOU KNOW AT WORK? RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WAS ASKING DOC.

AND TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TO ME, I'M NOT A DOCTOR.

OKAY.

I THOUGHT YOU SAID, DOC, I'M NOT SURE.

I THOUGHT YOU SAID DOCTOR, BUT THE WAY IT WORKS, I'VE BEEN IN PROBABLY EVERY CITY IN THE UNITED STATES, ALMOST ALL RIGHT.

FROM THE JOB THAT I USED TO DO.

AND I'VE BEEN IN EVERY BAD COMMUNITY THAT IT IS ALL RIGHT.

AND I'VE SEEN, I'VE GONE TO THE COMMUNITIES BEFORE THEY'RE DONE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND I SEEN THE DIFFERENCE ONCE THE HOUSES ARE BUILT AND THE PEOPLE HAVE HOME OWNERSHIP, THEY TAKE BETTER PRIDE.

RIGHT.

THE CRYING PART GOES DOWN, RIGHT.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

IT'S NOT CALLING ME TO HOST.

THAT'S WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS INSTEAD OF BEING A GHETTO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I TRIED TO PRESENT THAT AT THE ALDERMAN'S MEETING THAT TIME.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S WHAT I TRIED TO PRESENT BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT DONE AND A LOT OF MAJOR CITY, UM, MOMMY WAITING TO, I'M TRYING TO GET, IT'S NOT LETTING ME IN AND I MADE THE MEETING, SO WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP YOU ON I'M ON SPEAKER.

EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU.

WE GOT MICROPHONES AROUND THE ROOM, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR EVERYBODY ELSE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO KICK

[4. North Carolina Central University Lecture Series Discussion/Health and Wellness Working Group (Zoom and in person):]

OFF YOUR ITEM RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE ON THAT THIRD.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, MARIA.

YEAH.

UM, JUST VERY QUICKLY.

UM, HI, DR.

LIVINGSTON.

UM, GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR COMING, EVERYBODY THAT OUR GUEST HERE FROM NPU, UM, AND APPLAUSE FROM THE COMMUNITY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, HELPING THEM ON AS A METRIC ASSESSMENT, UM, HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO COLLABORATE AND COMMUNITY.

UM, PART OF OUR VISION WAS TO BUILD TRUST AND THE CATALYST FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHICH WAS QUITE A CHALLENGE OF COURSE, DURING THE PANDEMIC.

SO ONE IDEA WHICH WAS PROPOSED WAS A VIRTUAL LECTURE SERIES AND THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THE SERIES WAS TO PROVIDE THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, IDENTIFY THE BARRIERS TO HELPING THEM ASSESS STILL EXIST WITHIN MOST COMMUNITIES TODAY, THE LECTURE SERIES WAS USED TO HELP PROMOTE CULTURAL SELF-AWARENESS AND IDENTITY FACILITATE

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DISCUSSION, AND PROVIDE STRATEGIES FOR SELF-CARE DURING THE PANDEMIC SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO MENTAL HEALTH.

SO COMMISSIONER YOUNG AND I ARE HOPEFUL THAT THE INFORMATION TONIGHT WILL BRING CLARITY TO THE CONTENT OF THE LECTURE SERIES OR PURPOSE, AND ALSO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS HOW HEALTH EQUITY, HEALTH EQUITY DIRECTLY IMPACTS COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

AND I KNOW THAT, UM, REGGIE, DID YOU, YOU WILL PLAN ON SAYING SOMETHING AS WE JONES.

AND, UH, I SAID, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME HERE.

I'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING WITH JOE OR WELL WITH SARAH YEARS, FIRST OF ALL, LIKE COMPLIMENT HIM ON THE WORK THAT HE AND I HAVE BEEN SPENDING A LONG ROUGH ROAD OVER HERE WORKING ON THIS.

WOW.

I, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO GOD.

FIRST OF ALL, FOR HELPING HIM WITH HIS CAREER, THIS HAS BEEN A ROLE FOR A LONG TIME AND PLACING A TIME.

MISS SABRINA BEING WAS HARD, UH, SENDING ME TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO WORK FROM GETTING AROUND TO THE BACK DOOR POLITICS AND COMING IN THROUGH A HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAM TO GO INTO THIS COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE REALLY HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET SOME WORK DONE.

SO I REALLY LIKED TOGETHER DEUCE, THE TEAM THAT ARE REALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH FIRST AND FOREMOST, I LIKE TO THINK IN PERSON OR REALLY HAVE BOUGHT ME TO THIS POINT, MS. ETHEL, SAMSON, OR YOUR VATA CREDITOR AND MY LIFE FOR WORK.

AND THIS JOB OF PLACING THROUGH ALL THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT HAS LED ME FROM THE WORK THAT SHE AND HER HUSBAND, THAT I COULD NEVER FEEL THEIR SHOES.

AND AS I TOLD HER, BEFORE, I CAN FOLLOW IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS IN THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DONE AND NOT EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE THAT HAVE LED ME TO WHERE I AM NOW, DR.

FISHER, YOU ALL HELL.

LET ME BE WHERE I AM TO WORK AND THE MENTAL, PHYSICAL, AND SPIRITUAL, BUT THE MEDICAL SIDE OF IT TALK TO FUCHSIA MET ME WHEN THEY TOLD ME THAT I'D NEVER WALKED AGAIN, PROBABLY WOULD BE PARALYZED FROM MY NECK DOWN.

AND HE SAID, HE'D HELPED ME AND GAVE ME HIS PERSONAL NUMBER.

THEY SAID THAT HE WOULD DO EVERYTHING THAT HE COULD.

SO WHEN MISS SABRINA TOLD ME THAT SHE THOUGHT I WOULD BE A GOOD FIT TO COME WORK WITH THIS SUB COMMITTED, GOD HAD ALREADY PUT A PERSON THERE FROM THE MEDICAL SIDE AND WITH HIS HEART.

I THANK HIM FOR BEING HERE NOW.

SO DROUGHT HAS BEEN PUTTING THIS PIECE IN PLACE, DR.

FISHER, THANK HIM AGAIN.

AND I, UH, ON THE SIDE OF DR.

FISHER, I LIKED TO INTRODUCE YOU ALL TO AGAIN, I SAID JEFF, PAST THE HOMES THEY'VE GOT, I SAID, ALONG THE SPIRITUAL SIDE, HE IS COME HERE AND HE WAS SENT HERE AND THAT WHOLE THREE SURVIVE.

THAT'S THE SPIRITUAL SIDE.

HE ALSO WAS A GREAT FIT.

LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS GOD, OUR THING, WHAT MAY HAVE JUST TO BE THAT BROUGHT US TO THIS COMMITTED.

I SAID, JEFF, AND I'VE BEEN GOING AROUND.

HE, ME, HIM, DADDY.

AND LIKE I SAID, I TOOK MS. SABRINA TO GO AHEAD AND SEND US OVER HERE.

THIS YOUNG LADY HERE, THIS IS JEN, THIS IS TEAM.

LET ME GET HER HERE.

SHE'S A GREAT FIT.

SHE'S WORK.

ANTOINETTE, PLEASE STAND UP THESE TWO YOUNG LADIES HERE.

THIS IS THAT HUGE CDC.

I CAN'T DO IT.

BUT THOSE TWO YEARS THEY WERE GREAT.

IT WAS THE CHAIR OF HOLLOWAY, GREAT YOUNG FELLOW THAT STRENGTH, THESE THREE OTHER TEAMS HERE AT MS. BARBARA HERE, THAT I HELPED THEM BUILD THEIR STEEL SO SHE CAN GET AROUND THAT.

BUT SHE'S 12 K.

SHE CAN TELL THEM YOU ALL.

SO THAT'S WHAT KEEPS ME GOING, BUT, AND THE MIDDLE SIDE, TAKE IT UP TO A HISTORICAL BLACK COLLEGE.

DR.

BRUCE BRIDGES, YOU PLEASE STAND UP, SIR.

THAT'S THE ACADEMIA SIDE AND KNOWLEDGE

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THAT HAS TO GO BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY TO BRING IT ALL TOGETHER.

MR. SOBRINO, IT HAS TO BE A PERFECT FIT.

AND I THINK, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN.

GOD PLACED HIM INTO YOUR HEART TO SEND ME OVER HERE BECAUSE I AM THE COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE ME, WE'RE ALL IN WAR.

SO I THINK YOU'RE GETTING MAD.

ALRIGHTY.

I DO.

AND I SAID, JEFF, THANK YOU ALL THE, ALL THE TIME TO GET THIS DONE.

IT'S TELLING YOU TO REPEAT IT.

YOU GOT IT.

AND THIS A PERFECT FIT.

SO I THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE, JOHN AND ALL THE REST OF THE ONES THAT CAME TOGETHER WITH ALL THE PLAYERS.

IT'S A LOT OF WORK WE'VE GOT TO DO, BUT IT CAN'T BE DONE WITH ALL THIS TEAM CAME IT.

SO WHAT I CAN SAY WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, A LIGHT FOR ALL OF THEM TO TAKE A BOTTLE BECAUSE IT HAS GOT SOME GOOD WORK HERE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EASY.

IT HASN'T BEEN EASY.

BUT THE REASON WHY I WASN'T HERE AT THE DATE IS BECAUSE ALONG THE WAY I SAW WITH THE SPECIAL TALENTS AND THE SPECIAL DEALS THAT EACH ONE OF THEM HAD, THAT I KNOW FROM BEING FROM THE COMMUNITY AND HAVEN'T BEEN RAISED, THERE WAS SOME OF THE TECHNICALITIES THAT WENT ON.

TALK TO BRITCHES, HAD INVITED ME TO A URBAN THINK TANK.

WE WENT ON ONE EVENING AND THERE WAS A GROUP OF DOCTORS THERE UNDER THE ACRONYM CALL STEM.

THERE WAS SCIENTISTS TIP TECHNOLOGISTS, ENGINEERS, AND MATHEMATICIANS.

THEY WERE ALL EXPOUNDING UPON.

THEIR RESPECT TO JOHN WAS THAT EVEN EVERY RELATIVE PROFESSIONALS ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND THE WORK THAT THEY WERE DOING.

AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS TOGETHER.

BUT I REALIZE THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING MISSING AND THE SAME THING THAT WAS MISSING IN OUR IMMEDIATE ENVIRONMENT.

AND I SAW IT ALL ALONG, EVEN AS MARIA AND ALL OF US WERE WORKING TOGETHER.

AND I KNEW IT AND I HAD PUSHED BACK AGAINST WITHOUT CONFRONTATION.

BUT KNOWING THAT I'M NOT A YOUNG MAN, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT JOHN I'M ONE OF THE OLDEST RACKS IN THE GAME, TOO, IN MY COMMUNITY.

AS I SIT THERE AND WATCH THINGS GOING ON, MY HEART HAS ALWAYS TOLD ME, DON'T FORGET WHERE YOU COME FROM.

AND SO I REALIZED EVEN AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A PEOPLE FROM BEING, I MET IN THE BROADCAST COMMUNICATION, I LOVE PEOPLE AND I LOVE KNOWLEDGE.

SO I SAW IT IN A WAY WE ARE FROM THE PACK.

AND THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES WE SEE THE DISCONNECT.

I REALIZE THAT WE HAVE TO STOP AND GO BACK AS A COMMUNITY.

I WAS SITTING WITH THE YOUNG MAN THAT WAS ACADEMICALLY AND PRIME.

AND YOU TALKED ABOUT EVEN DOING SOMETHING ON THE SIDE, HE'S TALKING ABOUT EVEN GETTING BARTENDER'S LICENSE.

I'LL SHOW YOU HOW THIS IS HOW THIS IS A MISSED EDUCATION ON A MISFIT WITH THE GROUP AND DR.

BRUCE'S WITH CHEDDAR.

YOU FINALLY LISTENED TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THERE.

ALL OF THEM, DOCTORS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FIELDS, I STEPPED IN AND LISTENED FOR A WHILE.

SO THEY SAID, NUBER, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? I SAID, YES, SIR.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY? I THANKED ALL OF THEM.

BUT I SAID TO THEM, DOCTOR, YOU FORGOT.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOCTOR, YOU FORGOT Q4.

YOU FORGOT EFFORT TVS.

YOU FORGOT MINUTE.

ARE YOU GUYS SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T REACH YOUR YOUNG ONES? WHY? BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A FOUNDATION.

YOU FORGOT FIVE DOCTOR OVER THEIR FRIENDS.

A MINUTE.

EVERY HOTEL SETUP THE CIRCUMDUCTION OF THE BLOOD OVER 10,000 YEARS AGO, WHO FULL BUILT THE LARGEST PYRAMID IN THE USE OF STEM.

ALL THOSE ENGINEERS, MATHEMATICIANS, THEY ALL STOPPED.

THE DOCTOR SAID, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I REMEMBER RUNNING ACROSS THAT NIGHT.

I NEED TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT THAT'S THE SAME THING IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY.

WHEN I NAMED MY PROGRAM, MY PROGRAM, I NAMED IT AFTER A YOUNG

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LADY THAT HAD LOST HOPE TO TROLL, AND I'M GOING TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

WHY? BECAUSE I WOULD COMMUNITY HAD GOTTEN LOST AS WELL.

AND I ASKED A FEMALE DOES IN MY COMMUNITY.

WAS IT OKAY? I ASKED HER MOTHER WHY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY OUR COMMUNITY, IT HAS TO REGROW.

AND THAT MEANS SOMETHING TO US.

TOLD ME BEFORE HE DIED THE VALUE OF OUR COMMUNITY, JUST LIKE THE VALUE OF THAT YOUNG LADY MEANS TO US.

AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO SEPARATE OUR 80 OR SECRETS IS ABOUT THE VALUE OF MONEY BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST LIKE THAT YOUNG ATHLETE.

IF YOU HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE ABOUT THAT RAPPER NAMED MAX, I HAD ALL THAT MONEY AND WE CAN GET ALL THE EDUCATION AND ALL OF THE MONEY AND THESE THINGS.

AND WHAT DOES IT DO IF YOU DON'T HAVE SUBSTANCE? SO WHEN ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AND THE ONES THAT I NAMED AND THE VALUE OF ALL THE PROFESSIONALISM THAT YOU HAVE AND THE KNOWLEDGE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GO BACK AND UNDERSTAND WHY I BROUGHT CULTURE INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND GIVE IT TO THE COMMUNITY LIKE THAT.

MARIA SAID SELF DETERMINATION AND THE COMMUNITY LEARNING THE VALUE OF SELF AND BEING INVOLVED INTO EVERYTHING THAT EACH ONE OF YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING TO THE TABLE IS ALL OR NO.

THANK YOU, MS. JONES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, BUT WE NEED TO, UM, WHAT THANK YOU BECAUSE SEE, LIKE WE RUSHED THROUGH IT AGAIN, LIKE NOW IT'S ALL FOR, NOT AGAIN.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? AND DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD WHEN YOU'RE ON THE PHONE? UH, GOT TO FALL OFF AND UH, EVERY, EVERY CASE ALTERNATE, YOU WERE BREAKING UP.

YEAH, NO, I WAS SAYING I'M EXCITED THAT EVERYONE'S AROUND THE TABLE, BUT EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROCESS.

AND I THINK I HAD INDICATED DR.

BRUCE, BUT IT ISN'T THE THINGS THAT HE'S WRITING.

WE'LL DEFINITELY ENGAGE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE YOUNGER AUDIENCES AND GET THEM ON BOARD SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND THIRD OFF.

YEAH.

AND, UM, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE LECTURE SERIES.

UM, YOU, WHEN WE WERE APPLYING THAT IN NOVEMBER, CAN YOU JUST, UM, OR MAYBE JASMINE, YOU CAN JUST SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT.

SOME MORE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION ORIGINALLY, UM, AS TO WHY WE WERE TAKING THAT APPROACH.

UM, SO TAKING A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO ENGAGING AND EMPOWERING THE COMMUNITY IS FUNDAMENTAL FOR ANY TYPE OF COMMUNITY OR SOCIAL CHANGE.

HI EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS DEBBIE WITH THE BEHAVIORAL AND SOCIAL SCIENCES, UM, EAGLES.

UM, SO THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LECTURE SERIES IS TO PROVIDE A HOLISTIC APPROACH FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TRY TO BUILDING ON TOP OF THE COMMUNITY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME BACK THERE? I'M BUILDING ON TOP OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO ENGAGING, EMPOWERING, AND EQUIPPING THEM WITH THE RIGHT NECESSARY TOOLS AND RESOURCES TO SUCCEED INTERNALLY AS WELL.

THE EXISTENTIALLY IS FUNDAMENTALLY FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PARTICULARLY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THAT PLEASURE ABOUT LUXURY.

SO WE HAVE TO CREATE IT.

AND, UM, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HEALING.

IT'S OPPORTUNITY FOR ENGAGEMENT.

IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY AND FOR EVERYBODY TO TAKE APART.

SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOLISTIC CHANGE.

CAN YOU GUYS GO OUTSIDE? I'M SORRY.

OH, SORRY, EVERYBODY.

THAT'S OKAY.

I GOT A TODDLER WITH ME.

TAYLOR IS ALSO WORKING WITH DR.

WINSTON OVER AT MCC PROGRAM.

WE TALKED TO THEM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, THE LECTURE SERIES TAYLOR.

SHE ALSO WENT THROUGH DR.

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ONCE AGAIN, THE WORK THAT ORIGINALLY WITH THE LECTURE SERIES AND UPON CENTER UNIVERSITY AND UNIVERSITY HAS BEEN PIVOTAL TO HELPING THE COMMUNITY RESUME WITH UNDERSTANDING WHAT NEEDS ARE, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

UM, A LOT OF TIMES I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN IMMUNE TO NOT WHAT THEY NEEDED, WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE.

AND SO WITH THE, WITH THE LECTURE SERIES AND WITH THE PRODUCTIONS THAT WE'RE FILMING, WE'RE HELPING BRING LIGHT TO HEALTH DISPARITIES, EDUCATION KNOWLEDGE, AND JUST UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED TO BE LOOKING FOR, WHERE THEY NEED TO GO TO GET HELP, WHERE THEY NEED TO, WHO THEY NEED TO TALK TO, WHO ARE THEIR HABITS, WHAT ARE THEIR RESOURCES? AND SO WHEN WE DO THESE PRODUCTIONS, WE HELP ENTERTAIN, BUT ALSO EDUCATE AT THE SAME TIME.

SO IT WON'T BE SO STUFFY AND DRY AND OVERBEARING AND BORING.

AND SO WITH THE LECTURE SERIES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY ENGAGED IN THESE TOPICS.

AND THESE HEALTH DISPARITIES TO HELP ACTUALLY LEARN, TEACH, AND MOTIVATE AND INSPIRE, UM, WELLNESS.

AND SO WE GENERATIONALLY IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

WE ARE USED TO JUST EATING HOWEVER YOU WANT TO EAT, BECAUSE GRANDMA TOLD US THAT HE WAS LIKE THAT HER MOM WAS TELLING US HOW TO EAT THAT WAY.

AND EVEN FOR EVERYBODY, THIS, THIS, EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE LEARNED IS GENERATIONALLY PASSED DOWN.

AND SO WE'RE FOCUSING ON TRYING TO RETRAIN OUR MINDS AND OUR BODIES AND OUR HEALTH.

AND SO WITH THE LECTURE SERIES, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE DONE THAT.

THEY HAVE FIGURED OUT LIKE, WHAT'S HOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO COOK.

WHY KALE IS GOOD, WHY IT'S BETTER THAN COLLEGE FRIENDS, EVEN THOUGH EVERYBODY LOVES HAVING GRAINS, BUT KALE IS BETTER AND IT'S HEALTHIER THAN YES, LEARNING HOW TO COOK THESE THINGS RIGHT.

AND LEARNING OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN JUST IN OTHER EXERCISES AND IN HEALTH, UM, HEALTH TRAITS THAT WE NEED TO ALL LEARN AND KNOWING SOMETHING IS JUST NOT A WHITE THING.

THAT'S, IT'S AN EVERYBODY THING.

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTH WELLNESS, AND JUST ALL THE ATTRIBUTES TO THAT.

AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO LOOK LIKE A WHITE THING.

IT'S EVERYBODY SAYING, UM, EATING HEALTHY IS NOT A LUXURY.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY WORLDWIDE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND CULTURE, IT NEEDS TO BE THINKING INTO.

AND SO ONCE WE GET INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE AND OUR GENERATION AND OUR LINEAGE TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A NORMAL, THIS IS A NORMALCY, IT'S A SOCIAL NORM.

IT'S A HUMAN LIFE TO BE ABLE TO EAT THIS WAY AND LIVE THIS WAY.

THAT'S WHAT THE LECTURE SERIES DOES.

IT REALLY HELPS INDIVIDUALS SEE, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE FLAT BASE, WHO HAVE WENT INTO YOGA, WHO WENT INTO DIFFERENT INSTEAD OF EXERCISE AND HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

THEY KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO COME FROM THIS OTHER LIFESTYLE TO DRESS IT, TRANSITION OVER.

THEY CAN RELATE TO PEOPLE.

THEY CAN REAL HELP, HAS REALLY HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL, WONDERFUL WAY OF LIVING.

LET ME IMPLEMENT THIS.

HOW DO I DO THAT? AND SO WHEN WE DO THAT, WE STILL HAVE TO LIKE, THINK THAT WE STILL HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT, UM, A LOT OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SHOT TAUGHT AND TRAINED, THIS BECOMES OF BECAUSE OF GENERATIONAL INFLUENCE AND KNOWING HOW TO COMBAT AGAINST THAT TOO, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY.

THEY'RE LIKE, WHY ARE YOU DOING YOGA? THAT'S DUMB.

WHY ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE MY STUPID? WHY ARE YOU EATING PLANT BASED? WHY ARE YOU CUTTING OUT? UM, I MEAN, MY I'M NOT THERE.

I'M THERE IN THREE.

AND MY SON IS SUITED.

MY PASTOR.

MY MOTHER IS 74 AND SHE'S POSITIONING.

SHE THINKS THIS OVER THAT.

AND SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TEACH EACH OTHER, THESE THINGS.

SO I'M GOING TO THIS, EVEN IN MY OWN PERSONAL LIFE, BUT THIS IS WHERE I CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THIS BECAUSE WE MEET PEOPLE IN OUR, WE MAKE PEOPLE IN OUR SESSIONS, IN OUR SURVEYS THAT HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED ON THE QUESTION OF, WELL, HOW DO I EVEN IMPLEMENT THIS? WHY DOES IT EVEN MAKE SENSE FOR ME? AND IT'S BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO LIVE LONG, HEALTHY LIVES.

IT MAKES NO SENSE THAT OTHER COUNTRIES USE MEAT AS A LUXURY IN AMERICA IS LIKE EATING IT.

LIKE IT'S THE BEST THING EVER.

AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE.

WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER, WE HAVE TO GET SPECIALISTS AND I CAN TALK TO PEOPLE AND CONNECT WITH THEM TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

I CAN GO ON ON.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO, I JUST REALLY, BUT THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UM, THE LECTURE SERIES AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WOULD BE A GREAT TOOL FOR ENGAGEMENT.

I KNOW DOCTOR, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, YES, JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

I WANT TO GO HERE SO THAT PEOPLE WON'T HAVE TO STRESS THAT NEXT ONE.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO THANK BROTHER REGGIE JONES FOR WHAT HE'S DOING HERE IN THE CITY OF NEW BERN.

AND ALSO WHEN I CAME HERE HAVING TO

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RUN INTO, UH, AROUND THE MORNING, HE SAYS, HE KNOWS ME FROM WAY BACK.

I MEAN, WAY BACK, A LONG TIME.

AND, UH, I DIDN'T REMEMBER HIM, BUT HE SAID, HE KNOWS ME.

AND HE GAVE ME SOME SPECIFIC INSTANCES.

UH, AND I'M SURE THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW ME AFTER HE SPOKE ABOUT SOME THINGS I HAD DONE IN THE CITY OF DURHAM AND, UH, IN SURROUNDING AREA.

SO I WAS GOOD TO MEET HIM.

AND I BROUGHT THE PASTOR, DR.

LAFAYETTE MAXWELL WITH ME, WHO WAS A COLLEAGUE OF MINE THAT THEY PICKED SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY AND MINISTRY SCHOOL WROTE DOWN WITH ME.

BUT, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES, CAUSE NOWHERE ON A TIME SCHEDULE, BUT, AND ALSO THINK, UH, DR.

MINISTER FOR BEING HERE FOR RACHEL TO BRING ALL THIS TOGETHER AND CRYSTAL AND JASMINE AND OTHER PEOPLE HERE.

BUT, UH, ONE THING THAT I INTEND TO DO, AND THAT IS, UH, AND, AND, UH, CRYSTAL MENTIONED IT TWICE.

SHE SAID THAT HE HAS, SHE USED THE WORD GENERATIONALLY.

IT HAS BEEN GENERATIONALLY PASSED DOWN.

AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AND SO WHEN I, AND NOTHING JUST SAID TO, UH, SHE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE HAD TO BE FED AND WE DO HAVE TO BE FED, BUT I DIDN'T TEND TO DO A LOT OF MENTAL FEEDING.

THE PHYSICAL FEEDING IS VERY IMPORTANT ACCORDING TO ANY SPIRITUAL MAN.

THAT'S WHY SHE SAID PHYSICAL.

AND I GOT DR.

MAXWELL WHAT WAS SPIRITUAL.

AND I AIN'T SEEN THE DUDE WITH THE MENTAL.

YOU SEE? SO, UM, IN TERMS OF MY PORTION OF ELECTION MARIA, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE SERIES IS TO GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE ANXIETY, THE DEPRESSION, THE LACK OF, UH, PROPER NUTRITION, THE, UH, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND THOSE THINGS AND HOW IT CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE COME INTO AMERICA ON SLAVE SHIPS FOR MANY MONTHS ON THE OPEN SEAS AND BEING PACKED TOGETHER AND BEING DESTROYED, EVERYTHING THEY HAD KNOWN WHEN THEY WERE THE DESIGNS OF CIVILIZATION AND IN EGYPT AND UTOPIA AND CIVILIZATION, AND TO SPAIN AND PORTUGAL TO MORSE AND TRAVEL ALL AROUND THIS WORLD.

BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, THESE PEOPLE WERE TAKEN FROM THE NATIVE LANDS AND COUNTRIES AND PUT ON SHIPS AND BROUGHT INTO AMERICA, UH, AND THEY HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE ATMOSPHERE, THE SPACING ALSO PROBLEM WITH THE, THE, THE TREATMENT, THE, UH, HYGIENE COMMITTED SUICIDE, AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU SEE TODAY.

SO MY PART OF THE LECTURE SERIES IS TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO, UH, TO THE LISTENERS.

AND SO LETTING THEM UNDERSTAND HOW THIS PRESENT SITUATION CAME TO BE AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

YOU SEE, AND WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN NOW, IF WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ROOT OF IT ALL, WHEN YOU GO INTO ANY PSYCHOLOGISTS OR PSYCHIATRISTS OFFICE HE'S GOING TO LAY, OR SHE'S GOING TO LAY DOWN ON THE COUCH AND SAY, WELL, TELL US ABOUT YOUR HISTORY, YOUR BACKGROUND, YOUR PARENTS, WHEN YOU GO INTO A MEDICAL DOCTOR, UH, PROSTATE CANCER RUNS IN YOUR FAMILY, OR IF YOU HAVE, UH, UH, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AS A PART OF YOUR HISTORY.

SO WE HAD TO GO BACK INTO THE HISTORY OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED AND THEN BRING IT UP TO THE CURRENT SITUATION AND THEN OFFER SOME SOLUTIONS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I INTENDED TO DO IN A NUTSHELL, ANY QUESTIONS I'M EXCITED.

I BET THERE'S GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED AND READ TO THE LARGEST AUDIENCE THAT WE CAN IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS, UM, WITH, WITH DIFFERENT, WITH OUR PROJECT RIGHT NOW WITH DUKE UNIVERSITY, WE GO IN AND WE DO THIS BREAK PRODUCTION IN IS THE ETHNO.

WE CALL IT THE F NO DRAMA.

WE, AND I JUST LIKE TO CALL THEM FILMS NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST THAT GREAT.

AND SO WE, WE DO OUR, ALL, WE DO PR ALL OVER THE CITY, ALL OVER THE UNIVERSITY.

WE ACTUALLY USING UNIVERSITY SYSTEMS TO HELP PUSH OUT EVERYTHING.

UM, WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY DO WITH YOU GUYS, IF YOU WANT TO PUSH THIS OUT TO THE MASSES OF THE COUNTIES AND RECOMMEND YOUR FOUNDING, THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, WE WORK DILIGENTLY WITH YOUR PR DEPARTMENT WITH THIS WITHIN THE CITY AND WITH UNIVERSITIES NEWS OUTLETS, AND JUST DO OUR THING.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE A DEGREE IN BUSINESS MARKETING, SO I'M AFRAID OF MY OWN MARKETING AGENCIES.

I'M VERY PROUD OF, AND WE JUST CONNECT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MAKE REALLY GREAT PARTNERS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NONPROFITS

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IN THE AREA OR IN THE GROUND, BECAUSE THEY CAN USE THESE THINGS IN THEIR CLASSROOMS. THEY CAN USE THEM IN THEIR GROUPS.

I CAN USE THEM IN OUR CHURCHES.

UM, THEY CAN USE THEM IN THEIR PERSONAL, YOU KNOW, GROUP SESSION FOR WELLNESS.

SO WE JUST, WE JUST FLOODED THE AIRWAYS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

SO I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

SO PREFABRICATION, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THIS, IT WAS GOING TO BE, UM, DR.

HINTON, DR.

BRIDGES, UH, MAYBE A NARROWER DR.

BARRETT AND DR.

SMITH.

THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL SLATE AS IT HAD COME UP.

JASMINE, DO YOU REMEMBER THIS? SO HOW DO WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO FACILITATE Q AND A? AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE, WHAT WE'RE ASKING NOW THAT WE DON'T, WE NEVER REALLY GOT THAT FAR BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, W WHEN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF JASMINE KNOWS THIS OR NOT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE ENGAGEMENT ALREADY IS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING THAT THE COMMUNITY FEELS REALLY COMFORTABLE ABOUT AND COMING TO, I JUST WENT DOWN TO THE, WAS IT UNION PART? SO UNION POINT WAS AMAZING.

MY SON LOVED IT.

I DON'T HAVE OTHER THINGS HAPPENING THERE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN FEEL WELCOME TO COME TO THAT ARE FREE CHILD-FRIENDLY AND ENGAGING TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE ONE-ON-ONE AND HAVE HIM DO CERTAIN POSTS, FREE SURVEYS, TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT KINDS OF THINGS THEY WANT TO SEE.

WHEN WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO WASH HIS CANDY WASHES, TO GET A MAILING LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WE CAN START DOING, EVEN BLAST TO ON A REGULAR BASIS, TO KEEP THEM AWARE, ALSO WORKING WITH SENIOR GROUPS AND IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE FACEBOOK GROUPS CREATING A FACEBOOK GROUP AND GETTING THOSE PEOPLE TO SIGN ON, TO BE IN THOSE GROUPS THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS KIND OF CONSISTENTLY LIKE SENDING THEM FEED INFORMATION, SINCE YOU GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY, BUT THEN, AND THIS, AND I BELIEVE LIKE COMMUNITY ACTIVISM, ENGAGEMENT, AND ENGAGING THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS IS HOW YOU COLLECT THOSE PEOPLE.

BECAUSE THEN THEIR FRIENDS ARE GOING TO TELL THEIR FRIENDS AND THEN THEIR CHURCH GROUPS KIND OF TELL THE CHURCH PARENTS.

AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO TELL YOUR COWORKERS AND YOUR, YOUR GIRLFRIENDS AND YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR FRIENDS, AND YOUR CHILDREN'S GROUPS.

AND SO THEN YOU'LL CONSTANTLY BE ABLE TO KEEP FEEDING INFORMATION TO PEOPLE.

THE NOTIFICATIONS ARE ON, THEY'RE ENGAGED.

THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THE NEXT TIME.

THERE'S ANOTHER COMMUNITY EVENT.

BOOM, YOU GOT THEM, BUT YOU STILL HAVE ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO SURVEY THEM.

WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO SHOOT THESE VIDEOS OUT TO THEM.

AND THEY DID IT TO THE VIDEO WHEN YOU DO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THAT'S HOW YOU SAY, HEY, DID YOU SEE THIS VIDEO WE'RE DOING ON X, Y, AND Z SUBJECT? WHAT IS THE FACILITATION LOOK LIKE THAT? LIKE, HOW WOULD YOU HELP US WITH THAT PIECE OF IT? I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL COME DOWN AND PLANNING EVENTS ON THE PLANE CURATOR.

SO I, I, I WILL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'RE CURATING ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE EXECUTION OF, YOU KNOW, PUTTING OUT THE CONTENT.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FIGURING OUT WHAT TYPES OF THINGS ARE ALREADY HAPPENING SO THEY CAN MAXIMIZE OFF THOSE THINGS AND THEN CREATE NEW THINGS THAT ARE REFRESHER TO GET NEWER, THE NEWER, YOUNGER GENERATION INVOLVED AS WELL, BECAUSE WE WANT TO START FROM THERE ON UP.

WE DON'T WANT TO JUST GRAVITATE TO WHO'S HERE.

WE WANT TO TALK TO PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT ENGAGED WITH YOUNGER PEOPLE, OLDER PEOPLE, THE YOUNGER MILLENNIALS THAT ARE COMING INTO, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE IN FACE.

IT MAKES WITH EVERYBODY.

YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST SAY HE DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE.

LIKE EVERYBODY IN HIS ROOM COULD BE ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT YOU STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE OF YOUNGER PEOPLE AND THE LAY PEOPLE AND ELDERS TOO.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ENGAGEMENTS, WHICH HAS EVENTS THAT WOULD PARENTS WOULD PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR THE QUESTIONS FROM, UM, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT SHE'S ALREADY STATED? WE HAVE ALREADY BEGAN TO BUILD THE DATABASE, UH, FROM SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY RAN CRAVEN COUNTY.

UH, WE HAVE OVER 850 NAMES, PHONE NUMBERS, AND EMAIL.

SO IF WE HAVE A BASE, UH, INCLUDING REACHING OUT TO THE CHURCHES AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, SO, UH, WE HAVE A BASE TO START WITH.

SO WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO DO IS JUST IMPROVE ON WHAT WE HAVE.

I JUST WANT IT, I WANT TO ASK YOU, I KNOW THAT WITH THE LEXICAL SERIES, DO YOU ALREADY HAVE IN SAVINGS IN PLACE AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN THERE, SO SOME OF THESE SERIES HAVE YOU ALREADY DONE, RIGHT? WE HAVE NOT.

WE'VE DONE THE FL JUMBO PRODUCTION.

SO WITH THE PRODUCTIONS AFTER, AFTER THE SHOW IS OVER, THERE'S BEEN A PANEL THAT WE'VE DONE.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S AN THE SAME DEGREE BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE SHOPPED AS WELL.

THE PANEL WAS A LARGE Q AND A ONLINE STREAMING AND ASK QUESTIONS, BUT WE ALREADY STILL HAD OUR STANDARD QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP.

AND, UM, WE JUST, WE LET THAT GO FIVE AS WELL.

SO THAT REALLY HELPED GUIDE MORE ENGAGEMENT WITH PEOPLE.

SO WHEN WE DID THAT, PEOPLE FROM CHURCHES, GROUPS, CITY, COUNCIL WERE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH US.

CAN YOU COME AND DO THAT? AND WE SHOW THIS PRODUCTION TO OUR VIEWERS.

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AND THE REASON WHY I ASKED YOU THAT IS BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW, AT WHAT POINT WOULD YOU BE AVAILABLE? CAUSE WE HAVE GYM TEAM COMING UP.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYONE FROM THAT ORGANIZATION HAVE CONTACTED YOU IN REFERENCE TO THIS, OR, YOU KNOW, IF NOT, SO, OR WOULD YOU BE BETTER ROUTE FOR THOSE DATES? AND, AND YEAH, I'M CURRENTLY NOT WORKING WITH THE ORGANIZER OF JUNETEENTH IN DURHAM BY NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, SHE'S A LOVELY WOMAN AND SHE'S GOT HER WHOLE STAFF TO MANAGE THAT I'M AVAILABLE.

I'M SORRY, DR.

LIVINGSTON, ARE YOU STILL IN THE HALL? I, CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THE LECTURE SERIES THAT WE STARTED WITH BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH, UM, DR.

MINTON AND MAYBE BARRETT AND ANTHONY SPED, JUST A LITTLE BIT INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE ORIGINALLY WERE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, MAYBE THERE IS FOR MY DAUGHTER AND SHE HAD BEEN FIGHTING TODAY, STATE AND LOCAL IN NASHVILLE, UH, ENCOURAGING HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND ADDRESS SARAH HILL AND NUMBER FOUR, HEY, SHE'S EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE.

THE, UH, THAT GOES ON WITH BABSON CRISIS OF THE MOMENT.

AND SHE WAS INCREDIBLE.

UH, THE OTHER PERSON IS ANDRE BAY.

I MAN IS THE HISTORIAN FOR NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL.

UH, THE, MY BURN, YOUR HAND STORY SCHOOL, UH, HE IS WELL VERSED ON THE HISTORY OF EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA IS THE REST OF NORTH CAROLINA.

SO YOU UNDERSTAND HIM, UH, HOW THESE ECONOMIC CHANGES FROM TEXTILES TOBACCO TO, UH, MANUFACTURED HERE IMPACTED CERTAIN POPULATIONS, MOREOVER, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF 95, 40, 85 AND HOW FAST IT WAS REALLY DIRECTED AWAY FROM THE BOARD, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE, NO TYPE THING.

UH, NOW YOU INDICATE THE DEPENDENCY WITH ANTHONY SMITH.

YEAH.

I HAVE THIS, OUR SHADES SET UP FOR HUMAN DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL PIECE.

UH, HE IS SOMEONE WHO, UH, DEALS WITH THE CLIENT CALL OUT IN REGARDS TO THE DEPRESSION ANXIETY.

AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING PIECE TO PLAY AND HE UNDERSTAND COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL THERAPY AND THE CHALLENGES THAT MAYBE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH AS THEY TRY TO NEGOTIATE COVID PROTESTS, LACK OF JOBS.

SO HE'S STILL GOING TO GO AND BUILD A MENTAL HEALTH TEAM.

THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL GET A PARTICULAR, UH, SET OF SKILLS AND EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE THAT WE THINK THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ME COMPLETION OR ANYTHING ELSE? HE OFTEN WILL MISS ME TOO.

ARE WE GOING TO REPORT TIME? NO, I'LL JUST SAY ANYTHING A SHEEP BEFORE REGARDING ANY LEGAL I DO WANT TO, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS.

THIS IS, I THINK ALL REALLY, REALLY GOOD IN STRING.

SO IS THE PROPOSAL MARIA STILL TO DO THIS FIVE LECTURE SERIES? SO IT WOULD BE FIVE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS THAT WOULD BE PUT ON MONTHLY AND THEN THE DATABASE THAT YOU HAVE THAT WOULD BE YOUR OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY TO GET PEOPLE TO ATTEND THESE LECTURES.

YEAH.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THE, I REALLY INSTINCT IT'S BEEN.

SO IN 6 65, THAT'S THE MORNING THAT THE FORMAT WOULD BE THE SELECTION OF SHARES TO PROVIDE ALL THIS INFORMATION BY THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE, WITH THEIR EXPERTISE, BRING IT IN.

AND THEN IT WOULD ALLOW FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER Q AND A.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THE KIND OF DRAMA IS ANOTHER PIECE THAT I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IN DECEMBER.

UM, WE NEVER GOT THAT OFF THE GROUND EITHER, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S AVAILABLE AS WELL AS A TEACHING TOOL RELATED SPECIFICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO DISEASE, BLOOD PRESSURE, CERVICAL CANCER, I MEAN, NOT PRETEND TO CERVICAL CANCER.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE COVID PANDEMIC THAT WAS LOOKED AT WAS ABOUT, UM, PRESSES OF THE MOMENT.

SO AGAIN, THAT GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH IT.

UM, THERE'S A PRE AND POST SURVEY, SO YOU'VE BEEN ANSWERED QUESTIONS.

UM, YOU WOULDN'T BE LEARNED AFTER.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S QUESTION AND ANSWER DURING, UM, YOU KNOW, DURING THAT AND WHAT WAS INTERESTING.

I KNOW WHEN WE DID OUR ORIGINAL COVID, UM, PRESENTATION VIA FACEBOOK LIVE, I MEAN, IT WAS GREAT, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD QUESTIONS COMING OUR WAY, THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT HANDLE ON ANSWERING AND NOT CAPTURING ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AFTER THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, UM, REALLY ENGAGED AND FIND OUT WHAT THE TRAINING NEEDS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S WHAT DR.

CALDWELL HAD SPOKE UP.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SELF-RELIANCE NOT DICTATING, BUT ASKING WHAT DO YOU NEED AND HOW DO WE GO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ATLANTA HAS TAKEN THAT HAPPENED HAVING,

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UM, A PART OF THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WIVES THAT I READ THE OLD REPORTS, AND THERE WERE SOME NEW DATA IN THERE ABOUT HEALTH NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND I WAS CONCERNED THAT THAT WAS OUTDATED AND NOT RELEVANT.

SO WHAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME ABOUT THE LECTURE SERIES AND THE DRAMA IS THAT IT BROUGHT PEOPLE TOGETHER.

IT WOULD ALLOW A CENTRAL STAFF TO BEGIN TO COLLECT SOME DATA HEALTH DATA.

AND I THINK THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMISSION.

THAT'S THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME.

BASICALLY, THE ONLY CONCERN I SEE IS THAT THERE SEEMED TO BE WHAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR, WHICH MIGHT NOT BE A CORRECT ANALYSIS, THAT YOU'RE VERY DEPENDENT ON TECHNOLOGY AND DOES THE LARGE SEGMENT OF THE MARKET THAT WE WANT TO REACH, HAVE THE TECHNOLOGICAL RESOURCES TO WATCH IT THROUGH STREAMING AND INTERACT WITH QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND SO FORTH DURING THE PROCESS.

AND ARE WE GOING, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT THE WAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT? YES.

SO, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, THE BASIS OF OUR REACH OUT SINCE COVID IS COMING TO AN END AND MOST PEOPLE HAVE WATCHED HAVE THIS SHOT, UH, WILL BE IN-HOUSE AND TECHNICAL ATTITUDE.

UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS SET UP THE ZOOMS AT THE CHURCHES WHERE IN EACH SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE THOSE FOR THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE A RIDE WE'RE GOING TO SET UP, RIGHT? IT'S MORE.

SO WE HAVE ALREADY TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THAT WILL BE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

THAT WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH ORGANIZATIONS ALL OVER THE CITY AND THE COUNTY THAT HAVE OPERA.

THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE, THEY CAN STREAM THAT VIDEO.

THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH VINNY THEATERS, TO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND STREAM IT ON VIDEO, GOING BUSING, PEOPLE IN CHURCHES AND IN DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, JUST WATCH NIGHT PARTIES TO WATCH PRICE IN THE MOMENT.

SO TO WATCH THE SERIES, LIKE A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE NOT BORING.

THEY'RE VERY, VERY ENGAGING AND EXCITING.

AND PEOPLE REALLY ACTUALLY LIKE WATCHING IT BECAUSE IF THEY'RE SEEING THE STUDENTS ACT IN THIS FUNNY, AND THIS HAS GOT A GOOD REVIEW TO IT.

SO THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS HOW YOU ENGAGE WITH THE WHOLE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR 500 FEET AND ONE NIGHT, THE ETHNO DRAMA NIGHT, AND ONE MIGHT BE A HEALTH AND WELLNESS NIGHT.

AND YOU HAVE FARMERS THAT CAN COME AND GIVE OUT, YOU KNOW, PRODUCE BOXES.

LIKE, IS THERE THINGS YOU CAN DO ALREADY THAT YOU'RE DOING WITH YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC? AND THEN SLIDE THAT VIDEO, THAT THOSE PIECES IN AND STILL CONNECT WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND GET THOSE MAIL LISTS TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE, TO DO POSTS AND PRE SURVEYS.

THAT'S HOW PEOPLE ARE ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY DOING THE WORK.

YOU'VE GOT TO CONNECT WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE WORK AND THEN USE THEIR RESOURCES TO GET THIS PRODUCTION OUT IN THE PROCESS, THE BOARD DON'T, DON'T STRESS YOURSELF ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ALL THAT STUFF LIKE, GO AHEAD AND CONNECT WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING, THEY HAVE FOUR OR 500 TO 800 PEOPLE SAY, WHAT NIGHT IS GOING TO BE THE NIGHT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW THIS VIDEO, THAT'D BE THE NIGHT THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE GET MORE PEOPLE EVEN ON YOUR LIST AND KEEP COLLABORATING TOGETHER TO DO THAT.

THEN I SAID, THANK YOU.

YES, COMMISSIONER WALKER.

MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SEGMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE LEFT OUT IN THAT SEGMENT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE LEFT OUT OR THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO NEED THIS INFORMATION.

MOST WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRESENT.

WE SEE SOME OF THE SAME FACES AT SOME OF THE SAME MEETINGS, AND WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THEM.

THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW UP AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE TO GAIN THIS KNOWLEDGE AND A GAME TO SUPPORT.

BUT THERE'S THE SEGMENT THAT REALLY NEEDS IT.

THE SEGMENT THAT YOU NEVER SEE, THE SEGMENT THAT IS ALREADY GOING THROUGH A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, THAT'S GOING THROUGH A PHYSICAL HEALTH CRISIS.

THAT'S LIVING IN POVERTY ARE STILL GOING THROUGH THE EFFECTS OF COVID IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD.

THAT STILL GRANDMOTHERS THAT ARE STILL RAISING THEIR CHILDREN, GREAT GRANDCHILDREN.

AND THEY HAVE A FOUR HOUSEHOLD.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE NEED TO REACH.

AND THAT SEGMENT, WE HAVE TO DRAW THEM OUT, WHETHER WE GO AND GET THEM PAST THE HOMES, WHETHER WE MAKE SURE, BUT THAT'S THE FORGOTTEN SEGMENT THAT WE'RE DOING THIS FOR.

AND IF IT'S IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO HOUSE BY HOUSE STREET BY STREET.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AND MAKE THEM FEEL

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COMFORTABLE BECAUSE THERE IS A STIGMA THAT MAYBE THEY PUT ON THEMSELVES TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE PUBLIC, OR I DON'T WANT TO COME OUT OF MY COMMUNITY.

AND I DON'T WANT TO COME OUT OF MY COMFORT ZONE BECAUSE OF HOW THEY'RE FEELING BECAUSE OF HOW THEY'RE LIVING.

AND A LOT OF IT IS SELF-IMPOSED, BUT IT'S THE FORGOTTEN SEGMENT OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET, THAT WE HAVE TO GET THE WORD TO AND WE HAVE TO GET THEM.

AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE COMING OUT OF THEIR COMFORT ZONE SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM SO THEY CAN GET THEMSELVES INFORMATION.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I GOT A CHANCE TO SEE MY, HE WAS A MENTOR TO US.

HE'LL NEVER KNOW THE LIVES THAT HE TOUCHED 40 YEARS AGO.

I LEFT HOME AND WENT TO NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL, AND HE HAD A BOOKSTORE LESS THAN TWO BLOCKS FROM THE SCHOOL WHERE I WENT AND WE WOULD JUST GO DOWN AND HE WOULD LET US COME IN AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUY, HE WOULD LET US READ.

AND HE WOULD.

I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, THANK YOU.

BUT WE HAVE TO REACH THE FORGOTTEN SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.

EJECT THE HATE 800 NAMES THAT I HAVE IS THAT COMMUNITY IS LISTED.

I BUILT FROM A COVID SUPPORT, UH, WHERE WE GAVE OUT 1500 FOOD BASKET.

WE GAVE OUT OVER $800,000 IN CHECKS TO PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T HAVE IT AND NEEDED TO SUPPORT.

SO MY LIST IS THAT UNFORGOTTEN COMMUNITY AND THAT'S ALWAYS MY TARGET.

SO I GUARANTEE THAT THAT NEED WILL ADDRESS.

I JUST WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS STATEMENT AND ALSO, UH, REVEREND HOME FOR GIVING THE ACID BECAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

YOU DON'T, BUT I DO THIS ON ZOOM IS ONE THING, BUT IT IS, IT'S BEEN TRIED TO DIFFERENT IF I IMPLEMENT AN AUDIT.

SO DEPENDS ON HOW I COPE.

IT IS I REALLY WAS BORN TO DO IT IN PERSON SCHOOL.

BIG ARTISTS MAKES IT, IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT, HEY, I NEED TO SAY WHAT'S THE BALL, BUT I'VE TAKEN THE CHANCE TO SIT IN A CONVENIENCE STORE.

EVEN BEFORE I GOT MY SHOT THAT YOU DON'T FEEL IT.

LET US PUT UP A STORE RIGHT IN THE HEART OF THAT COMMUNITY.

AND HE SIT THERE AND DO MATH WITH KIDS THAT DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO GO AND TALKING ABOUT SICK PEOPLE.

I SAT DOWN WITH HER.

WE KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEIR BLOOD IS NOT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TIME? THAT'S ENOUGH SAID RIGHT THERE A CHANCE.

THANK YOU, MR. JONES, WE HAD

[5. Committee Updates]

COMMUNITY UPDATES.

DO YOU WANT TO GO, ARE YOU DOING DEVELOPMENT IS, UM, WITH THE WPL COMMUNITY CLEANUP GROUPS, IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, PHOENIX RISING.

SO WORKING WITH, AND WITH JOHN, I THINK WE WILL ALL SEND THE FLYER.

CORRECT.

YOU ALL SEE THAT? OKAY.

UM, SO, UM, IT'S PRETTY SELF EXPLANATORY AS YOU LOOK AT THE FLYER, BUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN TASKED TO DO AT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS TO PROVIDE OR OUTREACH.

UM, FOR UP DURING THE MAY 1ST, UM, INITIAL BOARD WAS ABLE TO FIND OUT TO ME FIRST, I MADE FIRST, THERE WILL BE A COOKOUT AND I WANT TO CALL IT A RESOURCE FAIR.

I'M JUST CALLING IT THAT AT THE AMIGA CENTER.

UM, AND, UM, FOR RESIDENTS AND INCLUDING AREA NONPROFITS AND HEALTH CARE ORGANIZATIONS.

SO, UM, THE ASIA AND MYSELF AND JEFF HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT BASED ON SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE GIVING UP GIVEN TO US FROM ANTOINETTE, WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, UM, A PLANNING MEETING WITHIN THESE ORGANIZATIONS.

AND OF COURSE COVID GUIDELINES, UM, WILL BE IN PLACE.

YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE SCREENING AND TEMPERATURE TAKING IT THE DOOR, UM, AS WE ARE, UM, FINDING RESOURCES AND SEEING WHAT BE AVAILABLE.

I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

YOU CAN PROVIDE THE SOCIAL DISTANCING, UM, YOU KNOW, BASKET WEARING AND THEN HAVE, UM, MASKS, THE PANTS TIES AND ALL THAT.

SO WE'LL BE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT THAT ASPECT OF IT.

UM, SO

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WHO WE HAVE KIND OF THING, I'LL LET YOU TALK TO HER ALL THIS, BUT, UM, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE HOSPITAL, ONE OF THE, UM, WHAT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY DURING THIS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THEN BROUGHT FORWARD IN OUR LAST PLANNING MEETING WAS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DOING SOME EDUCATION ABOUT THE COVID VACCINE, PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL ON THE FENCE ABOUT TAKING IT.

UM, SO I'VE CONTACTED YOU AND YOUR PEERS AND SPOKE WITH HER AND SAID, MAYBE THERE'S A PLACE FOR THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH GIVING SHOTS AND VERY INVOLVED WITH THE EQUITY VACCINE, MAKING SURE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES DO GET VACCINATED, MAYBE BEING OUT THERE, UM, AND PROVIDING THAT EDUCATION, UH, DOROTHY HIGGINS, WHO IS SOMEBODY THAT WORKS AT THE HOSPITAL, SHE'S WORKED IN THE COVID UNIT.

AND SHE ALSO WORKS WITH CREATIVE COMMUNITY COLLEGE WITH NURSING SCHOOL.

UM, I ASKED HER IF SHE WOULD BE WILLING TO COME AND HELP WITH THAT EFFORT AND BRING THE STUDENTS SO THEY CAN TAKE PLACE IN THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE EDUCATION PIECE.

UM, IT'S ALWAYS REALLY VALUABLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ATTENDING AND FOR THE STUDENTS, UM, MERCY CLINIC IS ON BOARD.

THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING BLOOD PRESSURE ASSESSMENTS, UM, HAVING SOMEBODY FROM ELIGIBILITY ON HAND, UM, TO DO INTAKES IF THAT'S NECESSARY, IF PEOPLE QUALIFY AND NEED A HEALTHCARE PROVIDER.

UM, AND THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A DIABETIC EDUCATOR AT THIS POINT.

SO THEY HAD BEEN WORKING WITH ECU DEPARTMENT OF NUTRITION.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THEM JOIN VIA MERCY AND MAYBE DO SOME NUTRITIONAL EDUCATION AS WELL.

UM, PARKS AND RECS AGREED TO COME.

I KNOW THAT THEY'VE HAD WALKING TRAILS AND THEY HAVE A WALKING CLUB AND JUST INVITE THEM TO COME OUT AND JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT'S AVAILABLE, UM, TO RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, DR.

FISHER IS HERE FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE ALSO BEEN IN CONVERSATION AND WE'RE MEETING WITH, UM, AMBER TAMBOURINE ON MONDAY, UM, UH, TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, CAN PLAY A ROLE AS WELL.

SO THAT'S PENDING.

AND, UM, I KNOW JEFF YOU'VE REACHED OUT TO THE HEALTH CENTER, CORRECT? YES.

OH MY GOODNESS.

NICE TO MEET YOU.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO, UM, AND THEY'RE ON BOARD.

UH, DIEGO, DO YOU HAVE, UM, I KNOW YOU HAD COASTAL COMMUNITY ACTION, THE COST OF WOMEN'S SHELTER, CATHOLIC CHARITIES, THE FOOD BANK OF EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA, THEY ARE, THEY AGREED TO PARTICIPATE.

AND THEN, UM, RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY SERVICES IS PENDING AND BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB JUST TO HAVE SOME YOUTH PROGRAMS AND THE SAME THING AS FAR AS PARKS AND REC.

I KNOW THAT SUMMER'S COMING AND THAT MIGHT BE A VALUABLE DISCUSSION FOR PARENTS AND YOUNG FOLKS THAT HAVE CHILDREN.

SO, UM, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I'M VERY EXCITED TO WORK WITH ANTOINETTE.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION PART OF, UM, PART OF THAT, CAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NOT ONLY THE LECTURE SERIES, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, GAINING INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT'S SO VALUABLE.

AND SO, UH, JOHN SUGGESTION WAS THAT PERHAPS WE WOULD RECONNECT WITH JASMINE, UM, AND, AND CCU, AND SEE DURING THIS TIME, IF WE CAN ACTUALLY DO A HEALTH ASSESSMENT, CAUSE I KNOW THEY HAD THAT AVAILABLE.

WE DIDN'T DO THAT ORIGINALLY BECAUSE WE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FIRST, BUT SINCE WE'RE HAVING THIS OPPORTUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT DAY AND OVER THAT WEEKEND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE GOING TO BE VALUABLE.

SO JASMINE HAD SENT BACK A PROPOSAL WHERE JASMINE COULD BE TO LEAVE.

OH, OKAY.

JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

SO RESOURCES, UH, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT.

VERY FRANKLY.

UM, OKAY.

SO ASSESSMENT, CAN YOU HEAR ME, UM, FOR YOU REFERRING TO THE THREE-DAY HEALTH ASSISTANCE? OKAY.

SO ESSENTIALLY IN, IN PERSON IT WOULD PROBABLY BE JUST FOCUS GROUPS, QUALITATIVE ANALYSIS, UM, IN PERSON THE TWO DAYS PRIOR TO COULD PROBABLY BE PUT ON, UM, SORRY.

I WINDED WALKING IN ONLINE, SAME SURVEY ONLINE TWO DAYS AND THEN SAME SURVEY IN PERSON.

YOU CAN USE THEM HOWEVER NECESSARY.

UM, BUT WHAT DO YOU ASK THEM TO SURVEY ACCESS TO BARRIERS TO HEALTH? UM, WHAT ARE THEIR RESOURCES THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE AVAILABLE? HOW RELATIVE IS IT TO THEIR, UM, HEALTH EXPERIENCE AND THINGS OF THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST DIVING IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SAY THEIR PERSPECTIVES ABOUT THEIR HEALTH AND THEIR VARIOUS STUFF.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

SO THAT'S AN OPTION AS WELL, UM, TO HAVE DURING THAT TIME SO WE CAN GET, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, GET ENGAGED IN COMMUNITY AND HAVE, UM, HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THE NEEDS ARE IMMEDIATE AND LONG TERM.

UM, AND I DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THAT, BUT AS FAR AS THE PLANT BASED COOKING DEMO, THIS IS EXCITING.

SO THAT'S MOVING ALONG A LITTLE SLOWLY, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD GREAT EMAILS AND, UH, WITH COLLEEN ROBERTS, UM, JEFF HAS BEEN, UM, VERY HELPFUL IN HELPING ME PARTNER WITH HER.

AND, UH, THERE'S A VIDEOGRAPHER THAT THE CITY USES.

UM, WE ARE GOING TO MEET AT SOME POINT AT, UM, THE COMMUNITY CANCER CENTER KITCHEN.

THAT'S WHERE WE PLAN ON FILMING.

ALYSSA IS WORKING.

LET'S DO SOME, THERE SHE IS THE NURSE PRACTITIONER THAT IS, UM, WORKING ON A NEWSLETTER TO KIND OF, UM, GO ALONG WITH WHAT WE'LL BE DOING DURING THE COOKING DEMONSTRATION.

SHE

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WANTS THE NEWSLETTER DONE MONTHLY, THE COOKING DEMONSTRATION WILL BE DONE POORLY.

SO, AND HER MAIN GOAL IS TO, UM, TO RELATE PLANT-BASED COOKING TO DIABETES REVERSAL AND SHE'S HAD SUCCESS WITH THAT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, COLLEEN'S HAD A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS.

SHE'S ASKED A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, COULD WE TAKE THIS ON THE ROAD, GO TO THE FARMER'S MARKET? THESE ARE ALL GREAT POSSIBILITIES.

I, YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKE, YES TO EVERYTHING.

UM, OF COURSE, SO WE JUST, I SPOKE TO ALYSSA, SHE NOW SHE WORKS A FULL-TIME JOB AND SHE IS WORKING ON THE NEWSLETTER AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COLLEEN, I THINK THAT'D BE VERY BENEFICIAL IN HELPING US WITH AS WELL.

UM, DR.

FISHER UPDATE YOU ON ANY OF THAT.

SO THAT'S GOING ON.

UM, AND SO SHE'S ALMOST DONE, SHE SAID WITH THE FIRST ONE, SO WE ARE PLANNING TO MEET, UM, AND THEN YOUR FUTURE THERE AND ALL OF US, UM, AND HAVE SOME GOOD DISCUSSION AND SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS WAS LOOK, UM, AS FAR AS THE FILMING AND SHORT, YOU KNOW, 30 MINUTES HAVING PEOPLE JOIN HER, UM, THAT SHE SAID SUCCESS WITH IN THE PAST, MAYBE OTHER GUESTS, UM, IT'S GREAT HAVING, AGAIN, A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HOSPITAL, THE CANCER CENTER, THEY, UM, THEY ALSO HAVE, UM, NUTRITIONISTS, DIETICIANS THERE.

SO THAT'S FUN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALL LEARN FROM EACH OTHER AND SET, UM, YOU KNOW, SET AN EXAMPLE.

SO I'M, PLANT-BASED, SHE'S VERY, VERY STRICT, YOU KNOW, UM, WILL NOT VEER AWAY FROM THAT.

SO THAT'S INTERESTING.

IT'LL BE AN INTERESTING, YOU KNOW YEAH.

BUT, UM, KL, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KALE GREEN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO YES, I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR THE SHOW, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND YOU GAVE A LIST OF AN ALL-STAR TEAM OF SUPPORTERS AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE OR FIND OUT IF YOU ALL HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN DEEMED AS BLINDED.

AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN AT ONE POINT IN TIME WAS A FORGOTTEN AREA.

AND THAT WAS HOW WE BECAME BLIND.

IS THERE ANY WAY, OR DO WE HAVE ANY ALCOHOL I'M GOING TO USE THE TERMINOLOGY I WANT TO, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE DECIDED TO DO THAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE AREA SO THAT THESE RESIDENTS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE SUPPORT FROM NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL FROM THE CANCER CENTER, FROM THE VOTE CENTER, AND THAT THEY CAN SEE THAT PEOPLE HAVE COME IN TO YOUR AREA, THAT DON'T LIVE AROUND HERE AND THEY DO CARE ABOUT YOU, AND THAT WILL DRAW THEM OUT.

THAT WILL MAKE THEM WANT TO TUNE IN TO THE LECTURE SERIES THAT THAT WILL GIVE THEM BUYING IN BECAUSE YOU HAVE COME INTO THEIR COMMUNITY AND SAID THAT WE DO CARE ABOUT YOU BECAUSE THAT IS THE STIGMA THAT WE'VE HAD.

I STILL LIVE IN THAT AREA, IN THE DUFFY FIELD AREA, IN THE COMMUNITY, WITH THE HOSPITAL AND TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THAT IS EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDERREPRESENTED, UNDERSERVED.

SO WE PLEASE COME, YOU KNOW, COME INTO THE COMMUNITY, MEET PEOPLE, ENGAGE, TALK TO THEM, TELL THEM WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU HEAR.

THAT'S IT, PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT US.

OUR OFFICIALS DON'T CARE ABOUT US AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT'S BEEN MY SHIP.

THAT'S BEEN MY SPIEL.

AND YOU COULD BRING YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE COUGH.

YOU CAN BRING A LOT OF PAPERWORK, BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, PUT A SMILE ON YOUR FACE.

AND, UM, AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU CARE ABOUT THEM AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

SO THAT'S MICRO APPROACH.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? AND YOU GET ME STARTED YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU GOTTA BE IN THE AREA, YOU GOT TO KNOCK ON THE DOORS, YOU GOT TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND YOU GOTTA GO WITH YOUR LISTENING EARS AND A NONJUDGMENTAL HEART AND MIND.

AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND I'D LOVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE ABOUT THE PLANNING OF THE CLASSES AND THE TABLES.

UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S AT THE OMEGA CENTER.

I'M SORRY, MY QUESTION.

AND THAT IS A COMFORT ZONE FOR A LOT OF RESIDENTS SAYING THAT, HEY, THEY'RE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE SHOWING US THAT THEY CARE.

THANK YOU.

OH YEAH.

SO THIS IS VERY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ANTOINETTE'S BEEN VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT THAT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS HELPED GOD IS WITH THE RESOURCES WE'VE ADDED.

SOME, YOU KNOW, THAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT BE, MY WORKS WILL BE THERE.

SO YEAH, IT'S A NICE, IT'S A GOOD COMPREHENSIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, APPROACH AGAIN, IT'S LOOKING AT HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR US.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO KIND OF DO THIS PIECE OF IT, BUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, JOHN, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT MIND, BODY SPIRIT, THESE ARE THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, MR. CALDWELL SPOKE AT THAT TIME.

DR.

PAUL SPOKE ABOUT TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU COME FROM, WHAT YOUR HISTORY IS.

DR.

BRIDGES SPOKE ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.

YOU KNOW, CRYSTAL HAS SPOKEN, I THINK, GENERATIONAL PIECE OF THIS, RIGHT? JUST ONE, WHAT THEY COULD DO, INTRODUCE THE GENTLEMAN

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BEHIND MR. YOUNG HERE.

, UH, WE WERE WAITING FOR YOU WHEN YOU NEIGHBORHOOD.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A FINAL PLANNING HALL WHERE WE'RE BRINGING TOGETHER THE COMMUNITY PLANNERS AND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, AND THAT IS OPEN TO YOU ALL.

WE WANT Y'ALL TO BE THERE.

THIS IS ABOUT BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY AND BUILDING THAT PARTNERSHIP AND HAVING THE COMMUNITY VOICES AT THE CENTER.

SO WE WONDERFUL IF Y'ALL COULD JOIN US AND REALLY HEAR WHAT PEOPLE ARE SHARING IN THESE MEETINGS, UH, IT WILL BE SATURDAY AT THREE O'CLOCK ON THE 29TH, THIS SATURDAY, THERE'S A FINAL PLANNING MEETING WHERE WE'RE BRINGING ALL OF THESE PARTNERS TOGETHER.

THE RESIDENTS REALLY LED THIS EFFORT.

UM, MR. MAYOR, BENJAMIN, MR. ROBERT BENJAMIN RESIDENTS REALLY LED THIS EFFORT AND WE JUST FACILITATED THE PARTNERSHIP WITH REDEVELOPMENT.

SO WHEN YOU HEAR MARIA SAY, HEY, I TALKED TO ANGELA.

SHE SAID, PLEASE KNOW THAT THAT MEANT THAT A RESIDENT WAS IN MY EAR.

AND I'M LIKE, LET ME GET WITH THEM.

ASK THEM THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE THE GOAL IS FOR THEM TO BE AT THE CENTER AND FOR THERAPY VOICES TO BE THE LOUD ONES THAT ARE HEARD AND THEN TO LEAD THE EFFORTS.

SO IT IS SUSTAINABLE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO TO YOUR POINT IS EXCELLENT.

IT'S REALLY, REALLY EASY TO DO THIS.

IF YOU TRUST YOUR RESIDENTS, THE COMMUNITY, THEY WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED AND JUST LISTENED TO THEM AND JUST DO WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR THEM.

THIS IS A VERY INCREDIBLY MONETARIAN EFFORT.

WE ALL ARE PEOPLE.

WE ALL NEED FOOD.

WE ALL NEED HEALTH RESOURCES.

WE ALL NEED HAIR.

WE JUST NEED TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE THAT WE LIVE AROUND TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.

THIS IS A VERY EASY THING.

DON'T, DON'T GO CRAZY.

TRYING TO MAKE IT HARDER THAN WHAT IT IS.

YOU JUST HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.

EVERYBODY HAS SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED EVERY HALF HOUR.

HE HASN'T WHEN THEY WANT TO SEE.

SO LISTEN TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.

AND ALSO THOSE OF US WHO HAVE PRIVILEGE TO ALLOW THINGS TO HAPPEN FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE IT, LISTEN TO THOSE PEOPLE AND LET THOSE PEOPLE HELP.

UM, I KINDA BEEN, WE'VE BEEN PROMOTING THIS EXACT THING TO THE COMMUNITY FOR EVER SINCE RENTING.

AND I FIRST SIT DOWN AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN FOR MONTHS PROMOTING IT RIGHT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE CON THEY'RE GOING TO BE READY.

THEY GONNA, THEY GONNA BE READY FOR IT.

KNOW IT WON'T BE THEIR FIRST TIME HEARING WHAT'S GOING ON.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, MS. FROM JERRY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE HEALTH HAVE BEEN COMMINGLED THAT EFFORT OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, PUTTING TOGETHER THIS, KNOW THIS ENTIRE CLEANUP WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

SO IT PRETTY MUCH CAPTURES EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON HERE.

UM, AS FAR AS HOUSING, UM, WE STILL HAVE A CLOSING DATE COMING UP ON FIRST AVENUE PROPERTIES.

WE STILL HAVE THE EIGHTH STREET PROPERTY THAT I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE'RE AT JAMIE , SHE'S ON EIGHTH STREET.

UM, BUT, UH, JAMIE'S ON IT.

SO WE ALL HAVE FULL COMMISSION GETS A PROPERTY THAT WE ACTUALLY OWN.

WE'VE ALSO EXPLORING WORKING ON THAT AGAIN, WE'LL TITLE ISSUES.

UM, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT.

UM, THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY GIVE US, UM, GIVE THE COMMISSION THREE, UM, SOLID DEVELOPMENT SITES, UM, THAT CAN YIELD ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 25 NEW HOUSING UNITS, DEPENDING ON THE PRODUCT AS PUT ON, UM, ON THE DIRT ITSELF.

UM, SO POSSIBLY MORE, DEPENDING ON THE COMMUNITIES, WILLINGNESS TO HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING MODELS, BUT AGAIN, SO WE'LL HAVE THREE SOLID, UM, PROPERTIES TO WORK ON.

MOVING FORWARD WITH, WITH THAT LEON OBVIOUSLY IS, IS OUR CONSULTANT AND OUR PARTNER IN, UH, IN PUTTING THAT PROGRAM TOGETHER, UM, TO GO TO SOME OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO GET MOVING ON THAT, UM, I'LL DIP INTO OLD BUSINESS A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT THE GAS IN HOUSE.

UM, SO AS SOON AS THE HOUSE, THE CITY, UH, PURCHASE A PROPERTY, THERE'S A HOUSE ON IT.

I WAS APPROACHED, UH, AS FROM A CITY MANAGER, AS SOON AS THEY TAKE

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IT.

SO WE OBVIOUSLY TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE.

SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THAT MOVED TO A PROPERTY CONTROL ON NEW BANKS.

UM, I HAVE GOTTEN NEW PATENT MOVERS QUOTES, UM, WORKED OUT THE ROUTE WITH OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT THOUGH WITH THAT, UH, ALSO HAVE GOTTEN A LOT SURVEY NOW ON AS OF TODAY, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE SURVEY, UM, EUBANKS FROM THE SURVEYOR.

SO FROM THAT POINT, UM, I'LL BE CONTACTING SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE FOUNDATION, UM, FOR THE HOUSE TO REST ON.

AND WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

I MEAN, I WOULD IMAGINE IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ALL THAT DONE, UM, AND POSSIBLY OUT OF THE HOUSE MOVED IN ON THE BLOCK.

UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS ELITE STRUCTURAL MOVERS.

IS THAT WHO IT WAS? WE LET US KNOW WHEN IT'S GETTING LIFTED.

COME TAKE A LOOK.

YEAH.

SO WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO AS FAR AS MOVING THE BACK PORTION OF THAT AND THE ADDITION.

UM, SO, UM, OTHER WORKS AS ASSISTED ME WITH THAT PERSON.

UH, THAT'S THE LEAD OVER THERE AND THE PUBLIC WORKS SIDE HAS BEEN OUT SICK FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS WITH THEM GETTING OUT THERE.

WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TAKE OFF THAT REAR ADDITION.

WE'LL SHARE THE BUILDING, UM, RIGHT BEFORE THE MOOCS AND THEN ROLL OUT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COMPLETION? OB 12, 13.

WE'RE NOT ON OLD BUSINESS YET, SO THAT'S NEXT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

[6. Old Business]

SO 1213 ON THE CANYON STREET UPDATE, UH, LAST MEETING, YOU KNOW, WE WERE APPROACHED AND ASKED TO, UH, SELL A PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, TO A CITIZEN OUT ON THAT PIECE OF ART RIGHT THERE, 12, 13 CANNING STREET, BUT A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, RESTRICTIONS, UM, THAT, THAT COMMISSIONING PLACED ON THE PROPERTY.

A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH, UH, WITH JAMIE AND WE'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION, OBVIOUSLY THAT ALL, EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMISSION WAS CONCERNED WITH IS WHAT IS, IS GOVERNED BY ZONING ALREADY.

SO THERE'S REALLY NO NEED TO PUT ANY ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS ON IT.

UM, GAMEY HAS WRITTEN UP AS YOU KNOW, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY REQUEST THAT THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, UM, GIVE US THE ABILITY TO SELL IT.

UM, SO FROM THAT POINT, JAMIE HAS DRAFTED THE RESOLUTION ON PLACE TO HAVE RESOLUTION ON THE NEXT AGENDA BOARD OF ALL MEN WILL ACT ON IT FROM THERE.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO INITIATE THE UPSET, DID PROCESS FOR THAT PIECE PROPERTY.

WE'LL ESTABLISH OUR BASE, UM, PRICE FOR IT.

AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE, HELPFUL IF I KNEW THE WILL OF THIS GROUP.

SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE NEXT MOVE, I'M NOT SURE THAT I WON'T BE ON THIS ONE.

SO IT WILL BE ON THE NEXT ONE.

APRIL WOULD BE IN THE ACT, BUT WE STILL WON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING HERE.

SO I'M SURE, ESPECIALLY SINCE ALDERMAN BEST IS HERE.

IF WE GO WITH THE WILL AT HIS COMMISSION, IS WE VOTED .

I DO GET THIS COMMISSION TO EITHER APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE RESOLUTION AND RESOLUTION TO THE BOARD THAT MAY GIVE A MORE CLEAR PICTURE OF THE COMMISSION'S INTENT AND THAT OF THE POTENTIAL PURCHASER.

IT MAY ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD VOTE.

SO TO THE PRICE, I MEAN, ARE YOU FOLLOWING WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SET YOUR OWN PRICE? AND BECAUSE THAT CERTAINLY IS WITHIN YOUR, YOUR CALL, THEN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

WELL, LET'S PAUSE FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING SO SLIGHTLY COVID SPECIAL NEEDS.

YEAH.

SO LET'S POSE THAT, UH, MADAM CHAIR, UH, I GUESS WE'LL NEED A VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 40 AND THE RESOLUTION TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO THE BOARD INVOLVEMENT.

IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? YOU CAN HAVE A MOTION FOR NO, NO PROCESS IS THE WAY TO SET UP THESE PATCHES.

SOME REASON IS WE CAN PURCHASE PROPERTY ALL DAY LONG WITHOUT ANY OTHER KIND OF APPROVALS.

BUT IF WE JUST, IF WE SELL A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THAT'S UNDER REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OWNERSHIP, WE JUST NEED APPROVAL

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FROM THE BOARD.

CORRECT.

AFTER THAT, THAT, THAT IS THE ONLY THING I THINK.

YEAH, BECAUSE OF THE APPROVAL IS FOR THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN TO DETERMINE THAT THE CONVEYANCE OR THE SALE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT.

SO THE ONLY TIME WILL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION CAN SELL BY STATUTE IS TO SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO REDEVELOP THAT REAL PROPERTY FOR A PURPOSE OF GOAL ARTICULATED WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND THAT DETERMINATION IS MADE BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN OR FROM THE SALE.

SURE.

THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS TRADITIONS AWKWARD, THEY WOULD BE .

I MEAN, LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED WAS THAT NO STRUCTURE CAN BE BUILT ON ITS OWN.

WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THAT.

IF WE NOT MOVE, WHY WOULD WE WANT IT? I DON'T REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION AT ALL.

I'M READING THE MINUTES HERE.

NO STRUCTURE CAN BE BUILT ON IT.

YEAH.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WE WANTED TO DO WHATEVER WE COULD KEEP FROM THINGS HAPPENING THAT WOULD FALL BACK AND THEY'D COME AND EXPENSE TO THE CITY WITH NON-COMPLIANCE.

AND, UM, I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE BOARD.

YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO KEEP SOMEONE BUILDING A HOME ON THAT PROPERTY.

THAT'S A LITTLE LIE.

WELL, IF SOMEONE WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, EVERYONE WOULD KEEP THEM FROM THAT DISCUSSION.

I THINK THE COMPENSATION THAT PERSON THAT'S PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WAS EXTENDING THEIR PROPERTY.

SO IT WASN'T A STRUCTURED AS FAR AS THE CONVERSATION WASN'T THAT THE INTENT OF THE GENTLEMEN TALKED ABOUT WAS FOR VISUAL PARFAIT.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND SO WE FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH THAT.

THE OTHER THING WAS, I MEAN, WE'RE DOWN IN A BIG FLOOD ZONE THERE AND IT SHOWS IF YOU BUILD A STRUCTURE THERE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? RIGHT.

EXCEPT PUTTING MORE BURDEN ON PEOPLE THAT FUTURE FOR MONTHS WERE THERE.

AND, UM, SOUNDS LIKE A LEGAL DISCUSSION.

AND CERTAINLY THE STATUTES ALLOW THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO PUT CONDITIONS ON THE DUTY, THOSE CONDITIONS.

AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN ANY OTHER AREA, BUT IN A REDEVELOPMENT AREA FOR REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WANTS TO CONVEY A PROPERTY.

THEY CAN MAKE THAT COMMAND SUBJECT TO CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

HOWEVER, IN ORDER FOR THOSE CONDITIONS TO BE ENFORCEABLE, THEY REALLY HAVE TO BE OBJECTIVE.

SO, UM, FOR INSTANCE, IF THE COMMISSION WAS CONTEMPLATING A CONDITION SAYING, YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE, THE LOT NEAT, WELL, WHAT IS NEATLY, THAT'S MORE SUBJECTIVE.

YOU CAN CERTAINLY PUT THAT IN THERE, BUT FROM AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON.

VERSUS FOR INSTANCE, IN OUR LAND USE ORDINANCE, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS ABOUT OVERGROWTH AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO I THINK THAT IN THE COMMISSIONS CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD, IF THAT'S NECESSARY, IF YOU HAVE AN OBJECTIVE CONDITION SUCH AS NO STRUCTURE SHALL BE BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY, THAT'S AN OBJECTIVE CONDITION THAT COULD BE ENFORCED, WHETHER THAT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT IS FOR YOU TO YOU ALL TO DELIBERATE.

UM, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER MORE SUBJECTIVE CONDITIONS THAT I THINK WERE PART OF THE LAST DISCUSSION MAY MAYBE MORE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE AT THE DEED RESTRICTION, BUT MAYBE COVER THE OTHER STATUTES ORDINANCES.

I GUESS WHAT THE TERMS WERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS DETERMINED THAT WE TALKED ABOUT JUNK CARS BEING ACCUMULATED ON THE LOFT.

UH, IF THAT'S, UH, IF THAT'S A CONDITION THAT EXISTS THAT CAN BE FORCED TO ZONING RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T DO IT COMING RIGHT THROUGH DUFFIELD 5,000 ABANDONED JUNK CARS AND LAYING AROUND AND DUFFY DEAL.

UH OKAY.

SO IS I DON'T CARE WHO SELL THE PROPERTY.

I, GOING BACK TO HER DISCUSSION LAST TIME, I DON'T SEE THE ZONING ENFORCEMENT REALLY GETTING AS WELL.

WE NEED THERE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME TIME.

NO, I MEAN, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS

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IS THE ISSUE OF, DO WE WANT A STRUCTURE TO BE FILLED WITH THAT PROPERTY OR NOT? ACCORDING TO JANE, THAT'S REALLY ONE THING IS OBJECTIVE THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ENFORCEABLE, BUT THE REST OF THE STUFF THAT IS NEBULOUS.

YEAH.

I MEAN, , YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THIS AND PUT THAT LIKE OUR CURRENT TIME FOR A DOCUMENT, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO WE CAN REVIEW IT LIKE THIS.

IT WOULD GO, ANY CONDITIONS WOULD BE RESTRICTED COVENANTS AND THE DATE.

AND I CERTAINLY COULD PREPARE A DEED FOR YOUR OLD REVIEW BEFORE THE CONVEYANCE HAPPENS.

BUT I THINK WHERE WE ARE IN THE CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW IS NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE DOCUMENT IS WHAT, IF ANY CONDITIONS SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE TRANSACTION PERIOD.

UM, AND ONCE I HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WE CAN CERTAINLY ONE HAVE A MORE INFORMED DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO GET THEIR CONSENT AND APPROVAL AND TO, UM, COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE POTENTIAL PURPOSE PURCHASER, BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU CAN MAKE A TRANSACTION SO RESTRICTED THAT NOBODY WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT TRANSACTION.

SO YOU HAVE TO BALANCE THOSE.

NO.

OKAY.

SO WHAT DO WE DO, I GUESS THE ONE YOU WANT TO STRUCTURE BUILT ON NOW? I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION VERY VALID.

CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT CAN'T BE BUILT.

IT CAN'T CAN NOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONNECTED.

IT WILL BE THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE ON A LOT AND NOT A LOT AS THE SECONDARY VIEWS.

OKAY.

AFTER CONVENIENCE, COULD IT BE COMBINED WITH A STANDING LAW AND THAT RESTRICTION STILL BEING, IF YOU PUT THE RESTRICTION ON IT, IT WOULD STAY ON SOMETHING BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS OF COMBINED, YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE SHIT.

YEAH.

BUT WE TALKED ABOUT OVERGROWTH AND JUNK.

YEAH.

THERE WERE MANY CONCERNS.

THAT WAS THE MAIN ANSWER IS NOW WE HAVE ORDINANCES, WHETHER THEY'RE BEFORE US, BUT THEY'RE STILL THERE.

UM, SO THAT'S, I MEAN, SO I GUESS, AND, AND THERE IS VALID DISCUSSION TO BE HAD ABOUT ALLOWING STRUCTURE TO BE BUILT IN FLOOD ZONES.

RIGHT.

UM, BECAUSE THAT INCREASES, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALISON HERE, SHE GAVE UP, SHE GAVE UP, HAD YOU REMEMBER HOW MANY WATER RESCUES WE HAD DURING FLORENCE, HUNDREDS, HUNDREDS.

AND I WANT TO SAY LIKE 700 SOME CRAZY NUMBER.

AND A LOT OF THEM WERE IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

THEY'RE ALL IN RESIDENTIAL AGE.

SO WATER RESCUE AND YOU THINK RIVERS AND STUFF, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NORMAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS WHERE WE HAD TO GO IN AND RESCUE PEOPLE FROM HIGH WATER BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T MEET THEIR FRONT DOOR AND THEY WERE TRAPPED UP IN THE SECOND STORY.

SO THERE IS A, UH, THERE IS A DISCUSSION TO BE HAD ABOUT ALLOWING MORE DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS WHERE DURING A NATURAL DISASTER, WE'RE PUTTING OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AT RISK TO PULL THEM OFF.

YEP.

NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT DISCUSSION.

AND IT'S ALSO, I THINK, IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ANY, ANY DEVELOPMENTS SHOULD IT HAPPEN ON THAT LOT OR ANY LOT IN A, IN A FLOOD PLAIN WILL BE SUBJECT TO OTHER STATE FEDERAL REGULATIONS.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA OKAY.

AND JUST PROPOSE, THIS IS KIND OF A PRECEDENT SETTING IN GENERAL WITH US PROPERTY.

WOULD IT BE OUT OF BLOND FOR US TO HAVE THE POTENTIAL BUYER COME IN AND SAY, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN WITH THIS? DO YOU WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING YOU WANT TO NOT DO ANYTHING? AND THEN US KIND OF CATER OUR RESTRICTIONS TO WHAT THEY TELL US THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS IN NEED SUBJECTIVE, NOT, I MEAN, CERTAINLY IT'S AS WELL WITH DENNIS, UM, PER VIEW TO ASK THAT PERSON TO COME IN AND MAKE A PRESENTATION.

AND THE COMMISSION CAN CERTAINLY BEAR THOSE CONSIDERATIONS IN MIND.

I THINK THIS IS WHAT THE SECOND OR THIRD TIME THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA SECOND.

UM, AND WE'VE NOT SEEN THAT INDIVIDUAL.

SO MAYBE AN INVITATION SPARKS INSPIRATION THERE WHERE'S THAT ONE, THE ONE-TIME PERSON IS WHAT IS THE FUTURE GOING DOWN THE LINE.

SO THIS PERSON GETS,

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IT SAYS ONE THING YOU'VE CONVEYED TO THAT REQUEST.

AND THEN THEY SELL IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE WHO THAT GOES AGAINST WHAT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH A VISION TOWARDS THE FUTURE.

THAT'S GOING TO LAST MORE THAN A FEW YEARS OR A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE VISION FOR THE FUTURE AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO .

THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT IF YOU'VE EVER SAT ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, WHAT THE PERSON TELLS YOU THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THEY WERE 5 CENTS BECAUSE THEY OWN IT.

THAT'S THE STIPULATIONS THAT WERE PUT IN THAT THEY CAN'T BUILD A HOUSE.

THEN YOU HAVE THAT.

AND IT'S DONE IT'S OVER WITH.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL NOW, SINCE I THINK WE WERE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WERE AGREEABLE TO SELLING IT BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS A STRONG WORD RESOLUTION WE CAN MAKE.

AND YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE REALLY THE ONLY DECISION IS DO WE WANT TO LIMIT A STRUCTURE BEING BUILT, BUT JEREMY MAKES A GOOD POINT.

IF IT IS BUILT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LOCAL BUILDING REGULATIONS, SAY BUILDING REGULATIONS, BUILDING A FLOOD PLAN.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A HOUSE ON THAT GRADE.

IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE OKAY.

SO WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION TO SETTLE AND WORK ON ANY KIND OF, IS IT ENOUGH SABRINA FOR THE ALDERMAN TO KNOW THAT WE WANT IT TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE REDEVELOPMENT, WHATEVER MONEY WOULD YOU PUT IN THE RESOLUTION WE'LL VOTE ON? NOT WHETHER WE KNOW IT OR NOT.

IT'S WHERE WE WILL VOTE.

WHAT, AND I DON'T MEAN TO MY, MY COLLEAGUE HERE, BUT I THINK WE BOTH AGREE THAT WE VOTED ON BEFORE US.

AND BASED ON THE WILL OF THIS GROUP, YOU'RE SENDING US THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE YOU HAVE RESOLVED THAT THIS IS THE WILL OF THIS COMMISSION.

WE'RE GOING TO ACT ON THAT.

CAN I MAKE A MOVEMENT TO THEN A RESOLUTION, TO THE BOARD OF ALL THE MENTORING AND SALE OF PROPERTY AT 13 MECHANIC STREET.

RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.

ALL THEY SAY, BUT I, I SAID, OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE DO THE MINUTES.

SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

ALL THE NATE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, MR. MORGAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SAY BEFORE? WE LET EVERYBODY GO BECAUSE WE NOT DO COME YET.

SO I WANT TO GIVE NO, I THINK IT CAN BE COVERED.

THERE WAS JUST A MESSAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE CONVEYED TO THE BOARD.

OKAY.

YOU READY? I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY.

CAN COME AND THINK ALL ABOUT ALL OUR GUESTS AND OUR CITIZENS FOR COMING.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN, PARTICIPATING IN THAT PUBLIC PROCESS.

WE'VE DEGRADED PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE IN THE UNITED STATES.

THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK EVERYBODY GOT, THEY SAID WE DIDN'T.

DR.

BRIDGES INTRODUCED HIS GUESTS HERE.

TELL US HIS NAME.

DR.

MAXWELL STACK ON THE BACK OF HIS NADIA, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, UH, PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

OKAY.

ON THE FACE.

ALL LOMBARDI NEIGHBOR, AMANDA OLIN, SALEM I'M COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.

THANK YOU.

SOMEBODY ELSE I'LL DEAL WITH YOU.

MARGARET SHE'LL PUT HERE.

SHE'S A WRITER.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL FISHER HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

MEDICAL DIRECTOR.

OKAY.

RIGHT HERE.

MASON, VOLUNTEER FOR NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

I HAVE A TEXT MANDATE UNDER THE AGE OF

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FOUR MORE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.

TERRY HALLOWEEN PEOPLE'S DISSEMINATE.

OKAY.

UH, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

UM, PEOPLE ASSEMBLING AND CONCERNED CITIZEN FOR THE UNDERSERVED.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU.

UM, JOHN YOUNG BOY, SABRINA VANGO, ALDERMAN CUTE.

PAIR OF FOUR IS THE VICE YEAR IN MS. MARIA CHOSE HIS BE CAREFUL.

WE ALL THREE STILL EAT CHAIR.

SIT ON BETH WALKER.

SHE STAYS ON THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.

WE HAD THE MORGAN COMMISSIONER AND A LONG TIME, AND HE IS HE'S CHAIR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORKING GROUP.

WE MEET YOU.

AND I HAVE TO RECORD ON THE SERVICES HERE AT THE CITY DA'S ON.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND MS. BASCA, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU NEED IT TO SAY? SO PEOPLE LEAVE AND GO TO SOCCER? YES.

MIKE WANTED ME TO TELL Y'ALL HE WAS SO SORRY.

HE COULD NOT JOIN US TODAY, BUT HE WANTED ME TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNEW THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

UM, WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING, HE WANTED ME TO, I'D DEFINITELY BE VERY TRANSPARENT AND SHARE THAT WITH Y'ALL AS WELL AS I THINK IF HE WAS HERE TODAY, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH THIS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, THE, THE, UM, ONLY FOR THE CLINICIAN, IF I MAY DO THAT FOR THE PLANNING MEETING ON SATURDAY, IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO JOIN IN.

OKAY.

UH, MS. CHAN? YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

YES.

I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH DR.

CALDWELL AND I NOTICED THAT HE'S ALREADY DEBATED, CONTRACTED READ.

UM, WHAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMISSION AND LONG-TERM CONSULTANT CONTRACTS? DO WE APPROVE THOSE? I, UM, I HIRED HIM UNDER MY, UNDER MY AUTHORITY AS SERVICES RECORD, NOT REBOUND CONDITION.

SO HE'S, HE'S UNDER CONTRACT WITH, OKAY.

OKAY.

AS SHE GOES THROUGH THIS PROCESS WHERE WE NEED A CONTRACT WITH HIM, UM, NOT YET I HAVEN'T COVERED, OR THESE FIRST TWO PHASES, THE FIRST PHASE IS COMING DOWN THE END OF THE MONTH, MEET WITH EVERYBODY.

UM, SECOND PHASE IS COORDINATING THIS COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO GET THE VISION AND, UH, THE IDEA OF WHAT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF FIRST AVENUE SAYING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY, PLEASE, PLEASE.

SEVENTH GRADE OR NINTH AND TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES.