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BUT YOU'RE NOT ADEQUATE.

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YOU STILL TRY TO GET UP ALL ABOUT THE HALLWAY.

OKAY.

UH, NUMBER FIVE,

[5. Request Conveyance of Real Property located at 908 Bloomfield St:]

OF COURSE, THEY HAD SOME REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 0 8.

UM, SWEET BOARD OF ALL MINUTES, YOU COULD SEE MORE, UM, WAS TO DONATE THE PROPERTY, UH, AND A STRUCTURE TO THE REDEVELOPMENT, UH, CONDITION IN ORDER TO ACCEPT THE DONATION TO THE COMMISSION WAS FIRST REQUEST, UH, THE PROPERTY ANY DAY, UH, DISCUSSION.

OR CAN WE GO AHEAD AND GET EMOTION? UH, IN PAST DISCUSSIONS, WE'VE HAD COMMENTS ABOUT THE RESTRICTION USE RESTRICTIONS IN THE BEAD, UH, UH, OUR LEGAL PEOPLE WILL GIVE US SOME REVIEW OF THAT.

SURE.

SO, UM, PREVIOUSLY WITH THIS PARTICULAR, UM, STRUCTURE, THERE WAS A RESTRICTION IMPOSED BY THE US MARSHALL SERVICE THAT RESTRICTION HAS BEEN REMOVED.

UM, SO THE STRUCTURE IS FREE AND CLEAR, UM, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, AS FAR AS THE CITY'S CONVEYANCE TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, THERE ARE TWO PATHWAYS WHERE THAT CAN HAPPEN.

UM, ONE STATUTORY PATHWAY IS FOUR AND FOUR INVOLVEMENT TO, UM, CONVEY THE STRUCTURE TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WITH NO RESTRICTIONS.

WHEN I SAY NO RESTRICTIONS, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING IN THE DEED.

HOWEVER, REDEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, UM, ACTIONS ARE LIMITED TO THOSE THINGS THAT ARTICULATED IN THE PLAN.

SO IT WOULD KIND OF BE AN IMPLICIT CONDITION IF YOU WILL.

UM, THE OTHER PATHWAY THAT THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN COULD ELECT TO USE IS TO CONVEY THE PROPERTY, UM, WITH A PARTICULAR USE, CONDITIONAL PARTICULAR USES THAT SEPARATE PUBLIC PURPOSE AND THE PAST, ALL OF THE CONVENIENCES TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAD BEEN WITHOUT CONDITIONS THAT ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION.

I BE HELPFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A REQUEST TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN.

I THINK IF YOU REQUESTED AND SAID, WE'RE REQUESTING THIS PROPERTY FOR POTENTIALLY USE, AS I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SO MANY REQUESTS FOR THIS PROPERTY, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE ASKING FOR IT.

I THINK THAT QUESTION WOULD COME UP AND THE BOARD WOULD SAY, WELL, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH IT? UM, SO I THINK IF YOU SENT THE REQUEST WITH NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING SO SPECIFIC THAT ATTACHMENT, BUT AT LEAST AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, I THINK IT WOULD BE A BETTER REQUEST, I GUESS, THE MODE.

YEAH, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

I GUESS, FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS THE COMMISSION, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH HIM.

WE HAVE NO PLAN IN PLACE.

WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH IT? HOW'S IT GOING TO BE OPERATED NOW MAINTAIN? DID YOU SEND IT IN THE VISION? THIS IS OUR DIFFUSION DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NECESSARILY THE END RESULT.

YOUR PLAN IS A VISION WE HAD TO ADOPT THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT SPECIFIC ACTIONS, A LITTLE MORE MEAT TO IT THAN THAT LIKE, TO GET HUNG INTO SOMETHING THAT HAS, HAS SPECIFIC BOUNDARIES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

WHEN I'M SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT, I JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK.

I KNOW THAT CASEY KIT, BUT IF I CAN JUST INTERJECT FOR A MOMENT, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE HAVE LOST ABOUT THAT AS POTENTIAL HEALTH CENTER HELPING, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO IN FACT, I THINK, UM, MAYBE JEFF, I KNOW HE'S BUSY RIGHT NOW AND WE HAD DISCUSSIONS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A POTENTIAL USAGE.

AND IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF INVESTIGATE FURTHER BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ADD THAT IN, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST? I JUST, I'M SURE THE QUESTION'S GOING TO BE BROUGHT UP AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS.

I JUST FELT LIKE I SHOULD PUT THAT OUT THERE.

SO YOU'D BE AWARE OF THAT.

YEAH, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SO MANY REQUESTS FOR MADAM CHAIR IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING HELPFUL.

UM, I PREVIOUSLY PREPARED A RESOLUTION FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.

UM, DO YOU HAVE THAT BEFORE YOU , IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE IN THAT RESOLUTION.

I DRAFTED THE RESOLUTION WITH PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS IN MIND, UM, AND THAT MAY BE A GOOD PLACE FOR THIS COMMISSION TO FOCUS THEIR CONVERSATION

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20 20, 20, 21.

BUT THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN COSTCO HERE AT CLINIC COMMUNITY RESOURCE AS WELL.

WE DON'T TEACH CLASSES AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THE PLAN DOES GIVE US SOME DIRECTION SO WE CAN, UH, WE CAN USE THAT WEEKLY.

I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT JUST OUT THERE BECAUSE THE PLAN IS ALREADY TO BE DONE AND WE KNOW THE THINGS THAT WE NEED, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WHO THEY'RE PLAYING.

WE MIGHT NOT KNOW EXACTLY NOW BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO REALIZE STUFF WITH, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS, THE BODY INVESTIGATIONS, AND, YOU KNOW, DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE WITH MAKEUP, MAKE UP THEIR MINDS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, WHERE WE ARE, BUT I THINK WE KNOW WE WANT THE PROPERTY, UM, IN YOUR RESOLUTION, UH, JAMIE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO ADD FOR USE, BE USED AS A POTENTIAL RESOURCE CENTER THAT WOULD, THAT MUDDY IT UP TO POTENTIALLY? I DON'T THINK SO.

UM, CERTAINLY THE COMMISSION IS AT LIBERTY TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION AND ADOPT WHATEVER THEY DEEMED ADVISABLE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, CAN WE STILL WISH THE TRIP? UH, WE GOT ONE, UM, I WONDER JUST A, UH, A MINOR CHANGE, UH, USED AS HEALTH AND OR COMMUNITY RESOURCES CENTER AND IN CONSULTATION WITH THE COMMUNITY, I'D LIKE TO SEE COMMUNITY INVOLVED, BUT STATED IN THE, IN THE RESOLUTION.

YEAH, I LIKE IT.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.

COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER, BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU MORE, MORE OPTIONS AND IT BRINGS IT ALL DEPARTMENTS IN TO BE ABLE TO USE IT IN DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IF I CAN'T HEAR YOU, I CAN SEE YOU.

I CAN HEAR YOU NOW SO YOU CAN HEAR US.

OKAY.

I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS SHOULD A, SHOULD THAT NOT PROVE TO BE WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH A HEALTH RESOURCE CENTER OR COMMUNITY SERVICE BUILDING? I KNOW WHERE USING THIS GENERAL LANGUAGE FOR A REASON THERE ARE, WE BOUND UP TO WHERE IT CAN NOT BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE BY VIRTUE OF THIS RESOLUTION INCLUDES THE GREATEST LEGAL CONSTRAINTS THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO THE PROPERTY.

AND WHAT WOULD THIS APPLY TO DEED RESTRICTIONS OR WOULD IT BE SOLAR? JUST THE RESOLUTION.

I IMAGINED THAT, UM, WHEN THIS RESOLUTION, OR WHEN THIS REQUEST GOES TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PRESENTATION.

UM, AND IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO ELIMINATE THE BOARD ABOUT, UM, POTENTIAL USES HOW THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY FITS INTO THE LARGER REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND THAT MAY HELP GUIDE THE CONVERSATION TO GIVE MORE CONTEXT TO THE, OKAY.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT.

IT SOUNDS, DO YOU WANT TO RESTATE YOUR LANGUAGE? BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY GOOD.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT AS HEALTHCARE AND OR COMMUNITY RESOURCES CENTER IN CONSULTATION WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH COMMUNITY NEEDS.

YEAH, NO, THIS RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE PROPERTY AT 9 0 8 BLOOMFIELD STREET TO BE USED AS A HEALTH AND OR COMMUNITY RESOURCES CENTER, A CONSULTATION, WHETHER THAT'S WITH .

YEAH.

IS THAT A POTENTIAL POTENTIALLY SUGGESTED I SPENT MY CAREER USING WISHY-WASHY WORDS AND POTENTIAL.

IT'S PRETTY WISHY-WASHY.

I DON'T THINK THAT SOUNDS AS SOLID AS

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WE, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS, PLUS WHATEVER THE OPTION COMES OUT OF CONSULTATION WITH THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

WELL, THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER IS .

I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO HAVE THE CONSULTATION AND THE ONE THING FOR SURE.

SECOND, SECOND.

OKAY.

DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CALLING.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

SAYING I HAVE TO OPEN THE MEETING, BUT HE'S IN THE MEETING, ZOOM AUDIO,

[6. Tiffany Askew, Executive Director of the New Bern Housing Authority]

ALL SIX.

WE HAD WITH US TO NOTHING ODD TONIGHT.

UH, TIFFANY ASKED YOU OR THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE DUBIN HOUSING AUTHORITY.

SHE CAME AROUND JUNE 1ST AND I LEFT HOME JUNE 21ST.

I HAD A GREAT, GREAT TIME WITH HER AND SHE IS, UM, SHE IS THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THIS JOB.

SHE HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB ALREADY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HER.

SHE COMES FROM, UH, COMES BY WAY OF SOUTH CAROLINA, ORIGINALLY FROM GEORGIA.

SHE KNOWS ABOUT HOUSING AND SHE HAS A PASSION FOR HOUSING AND THAT MAKES ME HAPPY.

AND SO I'LL LET HER TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HER, UH, SELF.

WE HAD THREE WEEKS TO APPLE, HUDSON UBIT, AND GUESS WHAT? SHE LOVES TO LOOK FORWARD TO PROBLEMS WITH HER.

OF COURSE, A TREE COURT IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA.

SO WE, IT ALL LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'VE ASKED HER TO STOP TELLING PEOPLE THAT I PUSHED HER OUT ON THE 21ST.

SO, UM, LIKE SHE SAID, UM, I'M THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT UBER HOUSING AUTHORITY.

AND, UM, I STARTED MY CAREER OFF IN ROME, GEORGIA, WHICH IS WHERE I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN ROME, GEORGIA.

AND, UM, FROM THERE, UM, I WORKED AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR 11 YEARS AND THEN I WENT TO ATLANTA AND I WORKED AT THE FULTON COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY IN ATLANTA.

UM, AND FROM THERE, UM, I WENT TO SPARTANBURG, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND I WAS THERE FOR ALMOST NINE YEARS AND NOW NEWBURN IS MY NEW HOME.

UM, AND SO I LOVE IT HERE.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

UM, THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN VERY WELCOMING AND, UM, I HAVE GREAT STAFF AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING GREAT PARTNERSHIPS HERE.

UM, AND SO, UM, THIS IS HOUSING IS MY PASSION.

UM, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO ME TO HAVE A DECENT, SAFE PLACE TO LIVE FOR, UM, YOUNG FAMILIES AND FOR OLDER ADULTS, UM, THAT, UM, THEY ALL HAVE A PLACE THAT THEY CAN CALL HOME AND THEY'RE SAFE THERE AND THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ALL STRIVE TO HAVE, UM, IS WHAT I HAVE GROWING UP.

AND, UM, I'VE HAD IT FOR MANY YEARS, SO I WANT EVERYBODY AROUND ME COMFORTABLE AND SAFE.

AND SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE.

AND, UM, I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW EACH ONE OF YOU.

DID YOU TELL HIM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW CAROLINA AVENUE KIND OF WHERE WE ARE? SO I'M WITH CAROLYN AT VIEW.

UM, WE'RE ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE UP.

SOME OF THE BUILDERS HAVE BRICK ON IT.

SOME HAVE CABINETS AND PLACE.

IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD.

UM, I THINK WHEN I CAME HERE, WE'LL DO THE FIRST ROLL ALL THE RAIN WITH YOU THEY KIND OF PUT THEM BEHIND BY TWO WEEKS.

AND SO WE WERE LOOKING AT THE END OF OCTOBER.

SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FIRST MILLION FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE READY.

UM, THERE'S 80 UNITS.

WE HAVE OVER 200 THAT ARE EACH BREAST IN THAT PROPERTY.

SO IT'S GOING TO FEEL VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, I'M ALSO EXCITED ABOUT, UH, TRADE PORT AND

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BEING ABLE TO DO GREAT THINGS THERE THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY.

AND, UM, WE'RE WORKING NOW, UM, TO GET THAT PROPERTY DEMOLISHED AND COME UP WITH A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, PARTNERS THAT I'M GOING TO BE WORKING WITH, UM, DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS.

SO, UM, I HAVE THINGS IN PLACE SO WE CAN GET THAT STARTED VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

UM, AND SO JUST LOOK TO SEE PROGRESS FROM US.

YES, SIR.

WE GOT A QUESTION HERE.

I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT YOU MUST BE A GREAT PERSON ISSUES WRONG, GEORGIA.

I JUST CAME BACK CELEBRATING MY SISTER'S 50TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY.

BOTH OF MY SISTERS LIVE IN ROME TO A LOT OF PEOPLE SHE KNOW FROM THE FIRST DAY SHE GAVE ME I HAD FROM THE VERY FIRST DAY, UM, IT'S SURPRISING.

I'VE MET PEOPLE THAT KNOW PEOPLE THAT I KNOW AND THAT I'VE WORKED WITH AND THEN PLACES I'VE BEEN.

AND, UM, I HAD PEOPLE TELL ME ABOUT PLACES AND, OH, I'VE BEEN THERE.

I KNOW SOMEBODY FROM HERE.

SO I, I, I WON'T SAY MY AGE, BUT I THINK I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

I HAVEN'T MET A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU LIKED AND SHE DID NOT PUSH ME OUT.

MY SEASON KNOWS I'M ONLY UP ON CALL ALL THE WAY TIME.

SO ARE WE READY? I THINK SO.

LEON, CAN YOU HEAR US ALRIGHT, TURN THAT UP.

EVERYBODY HAS A MICROPHONE.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD.

SO FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL AGAIN.

UM, I THINK WITH PLAN FOR EATING GIVES YOU A SUMMARY OF MY VISIT, THE, UH, REPORT I'VE PREPARED FOR THE COMMISSION AND THEN TO AF UH, OR ANSWER AN ASK OF YOU ALL.

SO, UM, IF THAT'S THE ORDER, I'M GOING TO POST SPEED AND WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO I, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO, BUT IT WAS NOT SHORTLY AFTER I RETURNED BACK TO MARYLAND.

UH, I HAD MANY, UH, CALLS OF INTEREST IN NEWBURN, UM, FROM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, UM, AND ALSO SOME OF MY FRIENDS IN WASHINGTON, DC AND OTHER PLACES THEY WERE, I THINK MIKE, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, UM, YOU'D BE AMAZED AT HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CONNECTION TO NEWBURGH.

UM, SO IT'S KIND OF, UH, EXCITING TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, WHAT FOND MEMORIES PEOPLE HAVE OF NEWBERRY AND PARTICULARLY FAMILY, UM, GROWING UP IN THE AREA.

UM, I AM GOING TO JUST GIVE A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL, UH, I'M SURE YOU ALL MAYBE SEEN THE REPORT, UH, AND WHAT THIS IS, IS JUST A COMMUNICATION OF MY EXPERIENCE THERE.

UM, AND THE POTENTIAL, AND I REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE POTENTIAL FOR LAUNCHPAD NEWBURN, UM, ONE AS INNOVATION IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ALSO AS AN INNOVATION FOR, UH, LAUNCHING, UH, OR BREAKING THE CYCLE OF POVERTY BY LAUNCHING SOME OF THE RESIDENTS INTO A HOME OWNERSHIP.

SO I'LL SAY THAT THE, UM, THE DESIGN OF NEWBURN AND TWO PIECES OF IT, ONE IS AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT OF PEOPLE, UM, MEANING THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES AND THE OTHER IS OF LANE.

UM, AND WHAT I'LL TRY TO DO IS TALK ABOUT BOTH.

UM, BUT AS A DEVELOPER, MY MAIN IMPORT IS REALLY THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE FIRST PARTICULAR, THE SOCIAL IMPACT DEVELOPER, THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE FIRST, THEN PLATE AND ULTIMATELY KIND OF PROGRESS TOWARDS SUSTAINABLE, HEALTHY COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH DEVELOPERS.

OUR, OUR MISSION IS ACTUALLY, UM, TO, TO MAKE SURE WE ACT, WE CHANGE NEIGHBORHOODS AND TRANSFORM NEIGHBORHOODS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH RESIDENTS AND,

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UM, GOVERNMENT, WHICH YOU ALL REPRESENT OR SOME ASPECT OF IT.

SO I WANT TO FOCUS ON WHAT I ACTUALLY DID WHEN I WAS THERE OVER THE TWO DAYS.

UM, AND THAT WAS BEEN A LOT OF TIMES WITH ACTUAL RESIDENTS OF THE BUILD.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE, UH, THE, THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IT'S A REAL COMMUTE, LIKE, UH, MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT WHAT THE BUILDINGS MAY LOOK LIKE, THE RECEDING OR THE REMNANTS OF ANY WATER.

UH, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHO LOVED THE FIELD, UH, WHO LOVE NEWBURGH.

UH, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HOLD A HISTORICAL MEMORY OF WHAT IT USED TO BE, UM, FROM STANLEY WHITE TO, UM, THE OMEGA SENSOR, TO HOW, WHAT THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY WAS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS.

UM, AND IN ONE, AND IT'S MORE, I REMEMBER EVEN HISTORICALLY, I GOT GREAT LESSONS IN BLACK HISTORY AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, NEWBURG DISTRICT, NORTH CAROLINA HISTORY, UM, WALKING THROUGH THE STREETS AND MOVER AND SPENDING SOME TIME IN DOWNTOWN NEW WATER, UH, WHO WAS JUST, IT WAS A PHENOMENAL EXPERIENCE TO REALLY FEEL PEOPLE'S AFFECTION FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

UH, SO THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD PLACE.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH ANY COMMUNITY THAT HAD THAT HISTORICAL MARGINALIZATION OR DISADVANTAGE, WHATEVER WORDS YOU WANT TO PUT INTO IT, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS A SENSE OF KIND OF WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, UH, UH, UH, UH, HOPE THAT IS IN FACT, UH, TEMPERED, RIGHT? UM, FIVE CYCLES OF EITHER PROMISES OR, UM, THINGS THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT DIDN'T FROM THE POOL TO FRUITION.

UH, AND, AND AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WAS A BIT OF A SURPRISE AND, UM, WELCOME OF BEING INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS.

AND I THINK THAT THE THING YOU HAVE GOING FOR YOU, MEANING THE COMMUNITY HAS WILLING PARTICIPANTS TO, TO ACTUALLY CO-DESIGN WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF BEEN DONE TO THEM, THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO ACTUALLY MAKE, MAKE THEM CO-DESIGNERS OF THE PLACES ULTIMATELY WHERE THEY WILL LIVE AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY, UH, WILL CALL HOME.

UM, THE MORE IMPORTANTLY, EVEN IF THEY MOVE OUT, THEY HAVE SOME AFFECTIONS TOWARDS IT.

SO THIS IS, UM, THE THREE AREAS OR FOUR AREAS WHERE I THOUGHT WERE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES, IF YOU WILL, FOR, AND THIS REALLY COMES FROM THE FOLKS I MET IN THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS, THIS IS MY SUMMATION OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, BUT A LOT OF THIS REPEATING OF WHAT WAS SAID, UH, IN, IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW, UH, LAUNCHED THAT NEWBURN COULD ACTUALLY BE LAUNCHED.

UH, SO ONE THING I LEARNED RELATIVELY EARLY IN THE TWO DAYS FROM MY FIRST MEETING WITH SOME PERMISSION MEMBERS WAS THIS REAL JOURNEY FOR, UH, HOW TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY OR WHAT COULD BE AS OPPORTUNITIES.

AND THAT BECAME A PART OF A CONVERSATION AROUND MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, JUST REMINDED SITTING IN THAT VERY ROOM HERE THEN, AND TALKING TO, UM, A COUPLE OF, UH, NEW RESIDENTS ABOUT THE GENERATIONAL KIND OF BRAIN DRAIN.

UM, AND WHAT, HOW DO THEY BRING PEOPLE BACK A PARTICULAR AGE GROUP, MILLENNIALS IN PARTICULAR TO REALLY SPARK SOME OF THE GROWTH OR MOVEMENT IN NEWBURN? THERE WAS REALLY CONCERN THAT NOBODY ACTUALLY REMEMBERED GENERATIONALLY THE YOUNGER FOLKS OF WHAT NEWBURN FELT LIKE WHEN IT WAS AGITATED, UM, AND IN PARTICULARLY WHAT OPPORTUNITIES DID.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, I THINK HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME JUST THINKING ABOUT WHAT OPPORTUNITIES AND REALLY CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITIES IN NEWBURGH, WHETHER THAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR WORK AT THE VOLT CENTER, BOTH CENTER OR PREMIER COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THEIR PROGRAMS, UM, IN OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIND OF HOME OWNERSHIP, AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP.

SO THERE IS, THERE IS A, THERE, THERE, UH, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE, UH, THE MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT, UH, BOTH LAUNCHPAD AND NEWBORNS OPPORTUNITY SHOULD BE ADVANCED.

THEN THERE WAS A PART WHERE THERE WAS, UM, A LOT OF INTEREST IN POSITIONING, THE LAUNCHPAD

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CONCEPT AND PROJECT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUILD COMMUNITY IN COMMUNITY.

I CAN NEVER REALLY LEFT IT SO HARD TO SAVE, TO REBUILD REBUILDING IT, BUT TO RELY ON, UM, LIKE THIS, THIS, THIS FEELING THAT THIS WAS HOME, AND FOR MANY PEOPLE, THEY JUST TELL STORIES OF, YOU KNOW, GRANDPARENTS TWO, THREE GENERATIONS OF DUFFIELD, UM, WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO PLAY, UH, IN THE STREETS, WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO WALK FROM ONE STORE TO THE NEXT, WITH DIFFERENT KIND OF HANGOUT THAT HOT SUMMER MONTHS AND DAYS, AND, AND ENJOY FAMILY, UH, WHAT THE BARBECUES WERE LIKE, WHAT THE SOFTBALL GAMES WERE LIKE.

THEY, THESE WERE LIKE REAL STORIES AROUND BUILDING COMMUNITY.

AND MANY TIMES THIS COMMUNITY CAN BE REBUILT AND MAY NEED TO BE RE-IMAGINED.

BUT THIS, THIS IDEA THAT THESE PLACES, UM, DESPITE WHAT, UH, THE CURRENT, UH, HOW THE STOCK LOOKS LIKE, UH, IT CAN BE REBUILT WITH RESIDENTS WHO, UH, HAVE THE SAME KIND OF AFFECTION, UH, HISTORICALLY AND GENERATIONALLY FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO FOCUSING ON OR WORKING ON HOW DO YOU REBUILD COMMUNITY IS ANOTHER, UH, QUESTION IN DESIGN.

THE OTHER, UM, KIND OF OPPORTUNITY IS FOR INTERGENERATIONAL DIALOGUE, THERE WAS CLEAR.

I MEAN, I LITERALLY SPOKE TO SOME 25 YEAR OLD, AND I'M NOT STILL 25 YEAR OLD, UH, MATRIARCH OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND IN THAT CONVERSATION, THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I ARRIVED, WE, THEY ALL WENT, THE THINGS FIXED, RIGHT? EVERYBODY WANTED THE SAME THING.

THEY WANTED A VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD, A VIBRANT CITY.

IT WAS A DESIRE FOR HOW YOU MAKE NEW BURNS, LIKE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WERE PROUD OF TO CALL HOME HAD OPPORTUNITY.

UM, BUT ALSO HAD LIKE, UH, A SENSE OF BELONGING FOR MANY FOLKS.

AND HOW DO YOU BRING THEM BACK? AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN I, WHEN I SAT IN TAP THE HOME CHURCH AND WITH SEVERAL OTHER CURRENCIES IN THE COMMUNITIES, IT WAS CLEAR THAT THEIR CONCERN WAS THAT THE NEXT GENERATION, WHERE THERE WOULDN'T BE A NEXT GENERATION BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE WERE LEAVING AND THEY COULDN'T, THEY WANTED TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE HAVE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TAKE LEADERSHIP POSITIONS? HOW DO WE HAVE THEM SEE THAT THERE'S THERE'S OPPORTUNITY HERE.

UH, AND THEY'RE INTERESTED IN BUILDING A LEGACY, A LEGACY OF SUCCESS AND THE LEGACY OF WHICH, UH, THEY'RE REBUILDING A CITY THAT WAS, OR NEIGHBORHOOD AND CITY ACTUALLY, UM, THAT FOR THEM, WHERE THEY WERE PASSING ABOUT CALLING IT HOME AND SEEING WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES WERE, UM, AT THE SAME TIME, THE YOUNGER GENERATION ONE IS THEY WANTED A PLACE TO CALL HOME.

THEY WANT TO PLAY FULL LONGING.

UM, MANY OF THEM, YOU KNOW, SAID THEY, THEIR FRIENDS WERE, WOULD GO OFF TO ATLANTA OR CHARLOTTE, AND THEY WOULD BE KIND OF DISILLUSIONED, UM, BY WHAT THOSE PLACES WERE AND WANTED TO COME BACK AT SOME POINT.

UH, AND THOSE WERE, EXCUSE ME, WERE AWKWARD, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIM TO COME BACK MAINLY HOW DO YOU BUILD ENTERTAINMENT AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THINGS THAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT AND IS WAY YOU CAN DO THAT? YOU KNOW, THERE'S NEW BIRDS COULD OFFER SOME OF THE SAME THINGS AS LARGER CITIES OFFERS.

UM, BUT IT JUST MADE ME SMALLER.

SO THINKING THROUGH THAT, THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY, WHICH I IS, IS REALLY, UM, LAUNCHPAD IS WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

AND AS I SHARED WITH MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, EVEN SOME OF THE KIND OF BUSINESSES LEADERS, UM, IT WAS ABOUT LIKE HAVING THESE CONNECTIONS AND THESE CONNECTIONS THAT, UH, ARE REAL CONNECTIONS IN SOMETIMES SOME OF THE BIGGER CITIES DON'T HAVE THESE CONNECTIONS, UM, BUT CONNECTED TO THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE PROGRAMS FOR, UM, WHETHER IT'S HVAC OR WHATEVER, UM, UH, TRADE OR STEM FOCUSED, UH, WORKFORCE PROGRAMS, THERE ARE IN THE VOLT CENTER.

I MEAN, THOSE ARE, ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT CONNECTIONS THAT ARE ASSETS, IF YOU WILL.

RIGHT.

UM, AND IT ASSETS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE, THAT'S YOUR TALENT IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THOSE ALSO ARE YOUR NEXT WAVE OF KIND OF INCOME EARNING, UM, W YOU TRANSITIONAL, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE STARTING THEIR FIRST CAREERS, UM, WILL MOST LIKELY BE READY FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, A MIDDLE-CLASS IF YOU WILL, UM, CAREER TO DIRECT TO ME OR LAUNCHING ONCE THEY KIND OF GET THROUGH SCHOOL AND LAUNCHPADS IS A GREAT SETUP FOR THEM.

UM, ONE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TWO GENERATIONS REMOVED FROM, UH, NOT HAVING OR NOT BEING, UH, OR MOVING FROM A RICHER

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RIGHT, TO A HOMEOWNER THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT'S A BIG JUMP.

UM, AND FOR MANY FOLKS, THEY OPT OUT OF IT BECAUSE NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DOUBT THAT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO.

UM, AND IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PLENTY OF STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT THERE'S A, A SENSE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, PROSPERITY NOW DID, UH, LIKE THREE YEARS WHERE ACTUALLY DID A STUDY ON THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING KIND OF HOME COUNSELING, HOW HOW'S FIRST HOME BUYER PROGRAM THAT HAD BOTH THE COUNSELING PIECE, BUT ALSO THE, UM, CREDIT FEEDS AND ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THOSE PROGRAMS. BUT WHAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT WAS THE COUNSELOR WAS HELPING PEOPLE SEE THAT THEY COULD DO WITH THE ANXIETY, REDUCING THEIR ANXIETY AROUND BEING A HOMEOWNER, BECAUSE WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WHEN THE, WHEN THE, UH, THE WALK WE'VE SEEN BREAK FOR, WHAT AM I, HOW AM I GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD MY FIRST, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, THE, UH, HEATER GOES OUT OR THE AIR CONDITIONING GOES OUT, AND THAT TYPE OF ANXIETY, UM, OFTEN PUTS PEOPLE AT A SPACE WHERE THEY AVOID EVEN PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS OF HOMEOWNERSHIP.

AND HERE YOU HAVE KIND OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, WHAT A READY-MADE POPULATION OF FOOD WILL BE, THEIR NEXT INCOME EARNERS AND CONTRIBUTORS TO THE TAX BASE.

YOU HAVE THEM IN THE COUNTY, YOU HAVE THEM READY TO LAUNCH.

AND HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY BUILD A CONNECTION TO THOSE? YOU KNOW, I MET WITH, UM, UH, TARA OF, UH, THE NORTH CAROLINA, UH, HOMEOWNERSHIP COALITION, AND SHE DESCRIBED KIND OF HER CURRICULUM.

AND, AND ONCE THE PARTNER, AND ALSO I DID A SPEECH AT THE OMEGA CENTER, UM, I MET WITH, UM, UH, TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM, UM, CRAVEN COUNTY COMMUNITY COUNCILS.

AND THEY TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DID THEY GET SOME OF THEIR YOUNG FOLKS, UH, CONNECTED TO, UM, SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY THAT NEWBORNS COULD OFFER? THERE'S ALSO, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR THINKING AROUND COMMUNITY HEALTH, UM, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR TARGETED HOUSING PROGRAMS, UM, LIKE, UH, COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WILL COME DOWN THROUGH CMS AND, AND, UM, UH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AROUND REALLY LOOKING AT INNOVATIVE WAYS AROUND EQUITY TO DIVERSIFY, UM, WORKFORCE, PARTICULARLY AROUND HEALTH AND COMMUNITY HEALTH.

I THINK, UH, COVID-19 OBVIOUSLY, UM, AND OPENED UP A WHOLE NEW SET OF BOTH OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOOKING AT HEALTH DISPARITIES AND SOCIETAL FACTORS OF WHICH HOUSING IS ONE OF THEM TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER EDUCATION IS ALSO IN THERE.

SO THE ABILITY TO KIND OF LEVERAGE THE ASSETS THAT NEWBURN HAS AROUND COMMUNITY, UH, AROUND LAUNCHPAD ACTIVITIES TO ATTRACT, UH, A TARGETED POPULATION OF COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH FIRST HOSPITAL AGM OR COMMUNITY EAST HEALTH, UM, THERE'S, THESE SYSTEMS ARE ALL LOOKING FOR WAYS TO GET CARE INTO COMMUNITIES IN A WAY THAT THEY HADN'T SEEN BEFORE BECAUSE OF JUST THE FUNDING.

AND NOW THERE'S THIS DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY AROUND HEALTH EQUITY TO ACTUALLY DO THOSE THINGS.

AND FINALLY, THIS IDEA OF LIKE HOUSING AND BUILDING A AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK THAT IS REALLY SETS UP A TALENT RETENTION PLAN IS CRITICAL.

UM, NEWBURGH HAS BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING DOWN THE ROAD RALEIGH.

UM, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NEAR TWO BASIS OR A MILITARY LAKE, IS THAT LIKE, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF POTENTIAL THAT THE AIRCRAFT WOULDN'T BE BUILT NOT FAR FROM THERE AS WELL.

THERE'S JUST, THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO RETAIN TALENT.

UM, BUT THE TALENT HAS TO BE LIKE RETAINED IN PRODUCTIVE WAYS AND SEE OPPORTUNITY AND BE PREPARED FOR OPPORTUNITY IS KIND OF THE MAIN THING I GOT OUT OF A LOT OF THIS IS THAT THERE'S, UH, PREPARATION NEEDED FOR OPPORTUNITY.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IF YOU ARE THAT TWO GENERATIONS REMOVED FROM HAVING OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, SO THAT, I THINK IN THE, WITH THE RIGHT PARTNERS, WHICH ARE SIMPLE IN THE AREA, THE, THAT TYPE OF, UM, BOTH CONNECTIONS BEING MADE WILL SET LAUNCHPAD, NEWBURN UP FOR SUCCESS, UH, AND WATCHING, UH, SOME OF THE TALENT THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

UM, LIKE ONE COULD BRING FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS BACK BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR HAVING AN EXPERIENCE WHERE OPPORTUNITY TO REAL, UH, I THINK THERE'S STILL FEEL SORT OF GROWTH THE CITY, UH, IN POSITIVELY.

UM, I'M GOING TO STOP TO JUST PAUSE THERE

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AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT REFLECTION.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, DR.

PAUL LAMPS AND DR.

CALDWELL AT LAUNCH PAD.

I'M TRYING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND THE CONCEPT OF LAUNCHPAD AND TO ME, AND MY FIRST IMPRESSION IS THAT IT'S A PLAN THAT IT BROAD REACHING.

I MEAN, YOUR LITTLE DIAGRAM THAT YOU SHOW IN YOUR, YOUR STUFF HAS FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT ELEMENTS WITH A DIFFERENT GROUP, PARTICIPATING IN LAUNCHPAD, UH, BEING SUCCESSFUL, WHO COORDINATES ALL THIS ACTIVITY AND MANAGES ALL THIS ACTIVITY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS TOGETHER AND FUNCTIONS.

OKAY, WELL, YOU HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS THERE, RIGHT? SO ONE OPTION IS IF THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ACTIVITY OF THE COMMISSION, THEN THE COMMISSION HAS TO INVEST IN.

WHEN I SAY INVEST TO ME TO ALLOCATE, UH, SOME RESOURCES, HUMAN RESOURCES, ACTUALLY, TO THAT COORDINATION, YOU ALSO HAVE, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING BITS AND PIECES OF IT.

UM, UH, SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, TERRENCE AND NORTH CAROLINA HOMEOWNERSHIP, SHE'S KIND OF DOING SOME ASPECTS OF IT.

DON'T HAVE LAND, RIGHT? UM, YOU HAVE, UH, IN A CREATING COUNTY, YOU HAVE CAREER COUNSELORS, THERE IS DOING SOME PART IS YOU DO JOB PLACEMENTS THAT IN THE VOLT CENTER, I'M SURE HAS SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING PIECES OF IT.

UM, AND YOUR COORDINATION OF IT MAY JUST BE THE DESIGN OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS SITTING IN THAT VERY ROOM YOU'RE SITTING IN NOW.

AND THAT FIRST MEETING IS GOING TO BE, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE ONE PERSON AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY NEED TO GO FROM, WHERE THEY ARE NOW AND TRAINING TO BECOME A HOME OWNER IN THREE YEARS, LIKE, WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS? AND YOU ASK THAT QUESTION FIRST, YOU BRING THOSE PEOPLE IN THE ROAD, AND YOU JUST WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW WHO COORDINATES THAT CONVENES, THAT IF YOU WILL, UM, YOU HAVE TO FACE IT AND DO IT AS A COMMISSION.

IF THAT'S PART OF YOUR ROLE AS THE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST DEVELOP LAND, BUT ALSO TO DEVELOP PEOPLE FOR THE LAND, THEN THEY THAT'S SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY TAKEN, TAKEN ON OUR COMPANY.

WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DRAW IT UP.

WE CAN ALSO, WE CAN SUPPORT IT.

BUT IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, IT WORKS BEST WITH LOCAL TALENTS DOING RIGHT.

LIKE, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU HIRED A CONSULTANT TO ACTUALLY MANAGE.

RIGHT.

YOU HIRED THE CONSULTANT TO DESIGN IT FOR THE PEOPLE IN PLACE, BUT THEY'LL NEED TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS AROUND WHAT RESOURCES AWARE HAVE LUNCH IS THIS SPOT, OR THAT'S WHY, LIKE, THAT'S THE KIND OF ONGOING RELATIONSHIP THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE.

SO COORDINATION SHOULD ABSOLUTELY COME FROM A LOCAL ENTITY DOING OKAY.

VEHICLE.

YES.

NOT COLUMNS.

OTTERMAN VANGO.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

UM, MY QUESTION IS WITH THE, UH, TALKING ABOUT HOME OWNERSHIP AND WHAT YOU WERE JUST DISCUSSING NOW, DID YOU HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY BECAUSE YOU VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THEY DO AND WOULDN'T THEY BE THAT RESOURCE FOR HOME OWNERSHIP AND TRAINING AND WORKING WITH PEOPLE BECAUSE CURRENTLY, UH, UNLESS I'M WRONG, MIKE, YOU CAN CORRECT ME, BUT THERE ARE, THEY SHOULD BE OUR PARTNER AND OUR PARTNER, AS FAR AS THAT HOME OWNERSHIP PIECE IN TRAINING, HOME TRAINING, OUR LOCAL POPULATION TO BECOME HOMEOWNERS.

AND I KNOW THEY HAVE A PROCESS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY GO THROUGH IT.

SO IS THAT ONE OF THE FILM PIECES? THEY ARE ONE OF THE PARTNERS, IF WE ARE, I DID HAVE, UM, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, HABITAT MODEL I'VE WORKED WITH IN PHILADELPHIA.

A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WAS THE FORMER COO OF HABITAT, AND I'VE DONE SOME BILLS MYSELF AT ANNAPOLIS AND BALTIMORE.

SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THE MODEL AND IT'S, IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE, UM, HOME OWNERSHIP IS THE END GOAL.

THAT'S STILL THE THING.

UH, BUT THE ONE IS THE ISSUE OF CAPACITY.

UM, SO I THINK THE BUILDS THAT, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL PROPERTIES.

AND I THINK AS A, AS A PARTNER, I COULD SEE WHERE A PERSON IN THE LAUNCH PAD PROCESS WOULD BE LIVING IN A LAUNCH PAD PROPERTY, AND THEN ALSO BE WORKING ALONGSIDE HABITAT TO GET READY FOR A BUILD OF A PROPERTY.

RIGHT? HOWEVER, THIS HAS OF HABITAT.

UM, YOU'RE

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LOOKING AT MAYBE 10 TO 15 HOUSES A YEAR INSTEAD OF THE NUMBERS THAT THEY DO NOW.

AND THAT'S, I'M NOT, I CAN'T SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF AROUND THE CAPACITY, BUT HABITAT IS KNOWN TO BUILD, UM, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE PROPERTIES AT ONE TIME.

UM, WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WRONG.

THEY'RE NOT THAT THEIR MODEL IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND THEY DO OFFER THE COUNSELING FEE.

UM, THEY, THEY, WHAT I LOVE ABOUT HABITAT IS SWEAT EQUITY.

COULD YOU, UM, COULD YOU, YOU KNOW, I WAS BIG BELIEVER IN, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU SHOULD BE, UH, GIVING PEOPLE A HAND UP, NOT A HAND OUT.

AND I THINK THIS, THIS MODEL, UM, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SEVERAL OTHER ORGANIZATIONS LIKE HABITAT, UH, WOULD WORK, UM, HABITAT WITH ABSOLUTELY BE AT THE TABLE.

THEY HAVE A ROLE THAT THEY HAVE, UM, FROM MANY OF THE OTHER PARTNERS YOU NEED TO ALREADY IN PLACE, UH, WHERE THERE IS A BROAD HIT.

YOU, YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE BACKSIDE OF THAT IS THAT THEN THE COMMISSION AND WHOEVER WOULD BUILD THESE LAUNCH PAD HOUSES.

AND BASICALLY THEY'D BE RENTAL UNITS UNTIL THE PERSON GOT TO THE POINT THAT THEY COULD QUALIFY FOR HOME OWNERSHIP OR WHATEVER IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT OVERALL VISION.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? YES.

DR.

COLWELL, THIS IS JOHN YOUNG.

I APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING WITH US WHILE YOU WERE HERE.

UM, I MUST ADMIT WHEN I FIRST READ YOUR REPORT, I WAS A LITTLE APPREHENSIVE UNTIL I HEARD YOU, UM, SO ELOQUENTLY SPEAK ABOUT YOUR VISION OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WRAPS AROUND THIS WHOLE ENTERPRISE.

AND, UM, UM, I'M DELIGHTED TO HEAR YOU EMPHASIZE THAT.

CAUSE THAT'S MY, MY BENT, WHATEVER WE DO HERE HAS GOT TO BE WRAPPED AROUND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YES.

CAN I GET THAT OUT OF THE CAR WITH DR.

HOLMES? UM, IF YOU COULD, UH, YOU TOUCHED ON JUST A BRIEF QUESTION.

YOU TOUCHED ON THE, UH, TWO AREAS WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ONE WAS THE HEALTH COMPONENT.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT EVEN FROM LAST NIGHT, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IS THAT WE HAVE SOME MODEL OF SELF-SUPPORT.

WE UNDERSTAND IN COLLEGE AND THE VOLT CENTER AND PEOPLE BEING TRAINED, BUT WE WANT TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP FURTHER TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A PLACE, A MODEL WHERE THEY CAN START BUSINESSES, UH, LOW INCOME BUSINESSES AND OFFICES, UH, THE PROPERTY THAT WE SHOWED YOU, WHERE WE TOLD ONE PROPERTY DOWN, I'VE READ THEM, GIVE OR TAKE 10, SECOND ONE DOWN.

UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT NOT ONLY ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING THEM COME BACK HOME, BUT THEN HAVING A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN COME BACK HOME AND WE CAN SUPPORT THEM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YEAH, THAT'S THE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS WOULD BE CLEAR WHAT THE MODEL IS.

OUR STRATEGIES ARE AROUND HEALTH AND WELLBEING AND ECONOMIC MOBILITY.

HOME OWNERSHIP IS ONE PORTION OF IT, OBVIOUSLY IN OUR COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, YOU BUILD WEALTH ON PROPERTIES.

UM, BUT WE, UH, HAVING, UM, SKILLS THAT AND TALENT THAT ONE CAN BE EMPLOYED IS ONE ASPECT OF IT, BUT HAVING SKILLS AND TALENTS AND THE TEMPERAMENT FOR ONE CAN RUN THEIR OWN BUSINESS.

I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU AROUND THE TABLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE BEING BUSINESS OWNERS, UM, BUT HAVING A PLATE AND A, AND A LAUNCHING PAD, EVEN FOR THAT, UM, CONNECTING THOSE PIECES TO IT BECAUSE I MEAN, MOST OF US, WELL, YEAH, IT STARTED PRETTY LATE, BUT THINKING ABOUT THE YOUNG ENTREPRENEUR, YOU KNOW, EITHER THEY'RE GOING TO SLEEP ON A ROAD TO COUCH FOR SEVERAL MONTHS WHILE IT GET STARTED, UM, OR SEVERAL OF THEM MAY BE IN ONE PARTICULAR, UH, YOU KNOW, APARTMENT OR SOME PLACE AS IT JUST STARTED.

UM, AND OFTENTIMES THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HUSTLING AND GRINDING, UH, TRYING TO GET IT DONE, UH, AND HAVING A SUPPORTIVE LIVING SITUATION AND A SUPPORTIVE WORKING SITUATION.

THAT REALLY IS A WIN-WIN.

UM, AND I THINK GOING BACK TO REPORT, HAVING A SPACE IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY ARE CELEBRATING, IT'S LIKE THIS,

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YOU HAVE TO MAKE, MAKE THIS AND MORE, RIGHT.

LIKE THE NORM IS FOR PEOPLE TO WANT TO BE PRODUCTIVE IN THAT PARTICULAR WAY, CONTRIBUTE ECONOMICALLY BECOME ECONOMICALLY MOBILE.

AND IT ALWAYS DOESN'T MEAN INCOME, BUT JUST BECOME AN ECONOMICALLY MOBILE MINI CONTRIBUTING TO WHETHER THE COMPACT SPACE OR THEIR FAMILY OR HOUSE OR WHATEVER IT IS.

AND THAT'S THE PART WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS MODEL SETS UP, UM, A CONVERSATION IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S REALLY GOING TO TAKE THE COMMUNITY AND YOU ALL AROUND THE TABLE TO LIFT THIS UP AS THIS IS WHAT IS EXPECTED OF YOU.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S WHAT THE WORK IS, AND, AND IN MANY FAMILIES IN NEWBURN NOTICE AND THEY SAY THAT, BUT THE SUPPORT FOR THAT AS WHAT IS OFTEN FROM SHORE, I JUST DON'T WANT TO SAY, YES, HOW ARE YOU? OH, HEY, HOW ARE YOU? HE DID.

AND SO I JUST, UH, REVISIT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

I REALLY, I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK.

AND, UM, I KNOW YOU SPOKE WITH THE TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM CAROLINA EAST AT THE TIME THAT WE MET AND OUTSIDE.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN JOHN AND I, AND OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR WELLNESS AND HEALTH AND WELLNESS, UM, WORKING GROUP HAVE BEEN DOING, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT PEOPLE FIRST, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN OUR MANTRA HERE AND TRYING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON THIS HOLISTIC APPROACH, ESPECIALLY WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HABITAT WITH THE HOSPITAL, UM, WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, WITH MORE FOUNDERS CENTRAL UNIVERSITY.

UM, AND SO HOW, HOW CAN, UM, THE HEALTH ONE IS WORKING IN GROUPS PARTICIPATE IN THIS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.

I MEAN, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S NOT ALL BEEN BIG ON, I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR LOCAL AND STATE PARTNERS.

HOW COULD WE HAVE, IF IT'S, UM, FEASIBLE LIKE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE HOSPITAL AS PART, UM, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THESE PARTNERS WITH, UM, NEWBURN LAUNCH THAT IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'D BE APPROPRIATE.

YEAH, I SEE.

YOU'VE DEFINITELY APPROPRIATE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE WRITTEN PAPERS ON ICE, HOUSING AND HEALTH.

UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M A PUBLIC HEALTH GUY.

UH, I WOULD SAY THAT A COUPLE OF WAYS OF OUR CONVERSATIONS, THIS HAS COME UP, YOU KNOW, I TALKED ABOUT ONE IN TERMS OF WHERE COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS AND REALLY CREATING A PIPELINE FOR COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS DO KIND OF LAUNCHPAD IS ONE AREA OF THAT.

UM, BUT IN TERMS OF THE FABRIC OR THE STRATEGY WAS IN THE ACTUAL RESIDENCE HEALTH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY DONE.

ONE IS AN ASK THE BUILDING ANYWAY.

SO WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CLEAR ON HOW WE DESIGN, UM, WHETHER IT'S A, THAT HELPS WITH, UM, UH, FILTRATION SYSTEMS IN HOUSES, THAT'S ONE ASPECT OF HEALTH.

UM, AND EVEN THE WAY THAT THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOODS, I MEAN, ONE THING WAS KIND OF WALKING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, ONE SIDE AT ONE POINT DIDN'T EVEN HAVE SIDEWALKS, RIGHT? SO PEOPLE USED TO EITHER WALK IN THE STREET.

UM, THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE THAT OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT'S HOW THE REDEVELOPMENT, HOW THE PLACE HAS REDEVELOPED, SO THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR A PLAYGROUND TO BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND PLAYGROUNDS THAT, UM, ARE DOING ONE OF TWO THINGS, STIMULATING LEARNING.

UM, THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF STEM PROGRAMS OR STEM PLAYGROUNDS NOW, UM, BUT ALSO WITHIN THE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.

SO I, I, AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER AROUND HEALTH, I THINK YOU COULD DEFINITELY, UH, HAVE COMMUNITY WALKS.

UM, I THINK WE TALKED AT ONE POINT, I THINK I'M NOT SURE WHAT CHARACTER HOMES THERE, BUT, UH, WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE USE OF THEM WHITE OR THE RECREATION CENTER FOR SOFTBALL, LIKE REALLY BUILDING RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AGAIN, AND THE COMMUNITY WILL BRING INTEREST BACK IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOLISTIC HEALTH AND, UM, ACTIVE LIVING, UH, ABSOLUTELY THAT COMMITTEE IS INTEGRAL TO, UH, MASBACK GREAT.

THANK YOU, DR.

PAUL WILL BE MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONER.

VERBAL CUE.

THERESA'S GOOD AT THAT.

LIKE A DOG.

I WANT TO SAY I'M DEFINITELY A DREAM, BUT EVERYTHING THAT YOU STATED IN YOUR PRESENTATION, THAT DEFINITELY EVERYTHING YOU SHARED WHEN WE MET, THE ONLY THOUGHT I HAVE IS THAT OTHER, UH, FRATERNITY YOU CHOSE TO SHOW US THE PURSUIT.

SO, UM, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE NEGATIVE TO SAY ANYWAY, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY THERE'S ONE BIG, BIG ENTITY AND ONE BIG, UM, UM, I THINK I'M GOING TO USE THE TERM BEAR IN THE ROOM IS THAT, UH, THE SCHOOLS, UM, YOU SPOKE A LOT ABOUT, UH, PRE DIPPING AND STARTING EARLY.

AND, UM, I KNOW A RALEIGH, WE WERE PUSHING TO GROW YOUR OWN TO A LOT OF COMMUNITIES.

THAT'S A SHORT THOUGHT WAY OF GETTING PEOPLE TO STAY HOME.

UM, IT'S BY GROWING YOUR OWN, UM, WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT? AND, AND HOW CAN

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WE USE THE SCHOOLS, WHICH IS THE SABRINA, THE THIRD LARGEST EMPLOYER OF CRAIG, HOW CAN WE USE THE SCHOOL TO GET INTO THIS REVITALIZATION LAUNCH? YEAH.

YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAD THAT CONVERSATION WHEN WE WALKED AROUND FOR SOME, I'VE WORKED WITH T WALL DEVELOPMENT, BALTIMORE, THEY REALLY LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM.

THEY GIVE TEACHERS THE TEACHERS PROGRAM, RIGHT.

SO YOU RETAIN YOUR TEACHING TALENT AND YOU TELLING ME THAT THERE'S BEEN QUITE AMOUNT OF GOOD AMOUNT OF ATTRITION, BUT YOU CAN RETAIN YOUR TEACHERS, UM, WITH LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSE.

RIGHT.

IF YOU PUT A PACKAGE TOGETHER WHERE HOUSING WAS PART OF YOUR COMPENSATION PACKAGE, LIKE YOU'D GET A LOT OF PEOPLE STAY AROUND.

RIGHT.

UM, THINKING ABOUT THAT, UH, AND, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY PROGRAMS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ED AND HUD, UM, AROUND WORK WITHOUT IT, THEY COULD ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, GET INTO SOME OF THAT STUFF.

UH, WHAT I THINK IS, UM, SO THERE'S ONE PART IS REPUTATION OF, UH, OF TEACHERS, THE OTHER PART TO WHICH, YOU KNOW, KIDS NEED TO LIVE IN SAFE HOUSE.

RIGHT.

THEY HELP OUT AND YOU KNOW, THAT STABILITY OF THE HEALTHY, HOW'S, IT TRANSLATE INTO ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE, RIGHT? SO YOU, AS A, UH, I THINK YOU WERE LIKE THE PRINCIPAL OF SENSORY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, , YOU KNOW, ALL PEOPLE THEN, UM, WHAT THAT STABILITY DOES TO THE SCHOOL AND THE LEARNER.

SO IF YOU'RE REBUILDING A COMMUNITY WHERE ABSENTEEISM IS HIGH, BECAUSE KIDS ASSISTANCE HAS ASTHMA OR POOR QUALITY HOUSING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND NOW YOU'RE BUILDING A COMMUNITY AROUND THEM WHERE THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, THERE'S EXPECTATION THAT SAFETY AND ALL THESE THINGS, AND THEY HAVE PRIDE BACK IN THEIR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS LOOK NICE.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT AESTHETIC IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU MAY SEE OVER TIME, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS WHO WOULD LIKE SHOW UP AND AS YOU EXPECT THEM TO SHOW UP IN YOUR SCHOOL AND YOUR CLASSROOM, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW UP AND READY TO PERFORM BECAUSE THEY SEE THAT THERE'S LIGHTS INTO THE TUNNEL.

AND IT'S EXACTLY NOT A TRAIN, RIGHT.

IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY POSITIVE FOR THEM.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, GOING BACK TO JOBS, WAIT, IF YOU BUILD THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY STARTS TO VALUE, LIKE WHAT IT FEELS LIKE, WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE.

AGAIN, NOT SAYING IT'S NEVER SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF STUFF.

WHEN PEOPLE COME OUT OF STUFFY FIELDS AND NEWBURGH, BUT THEY START TO SEE IT IN THIS CONTEMPORARY TIME.

AND THEY START TO SEE WINS BECAUSE WE'RE A PASTOR HOMES IS BUILDING A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN LAUNCH THEIR BUSINESSES.

UH, SABRINA HAS, UH, PLACES WHERE IN DOWNTOWN WHERE BUSINESSES CAN BE, UM, UH, LAUNCHED AS WELL, AND THEN PARTNERSHIPS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY BECOME A COMMUNITY.

AGAIN, DESPITE WHATEVER RACIAL THING IS, HAS HAD, IT HAS TO BE EQUITY IN THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION.

UM, BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, IS WHEN YOU ON THIS CONVERSATION ON, UH, EDUCATION, UH, YOU BROUGHT UP YOU'RE REALLY ARE TALKING ABOUT A GENERATIONAL STRATEGY, A TWO DEGREE GENERATION STRATEGY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE, YOU KNOW, LAUNCHPAD IS TWO GENERATIONS.

SO OUR STRATEGY.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO RUN SO WE CAN HAVE SOME, UH, SOME DISCUSSION AND, UM, STAFF, THE DIRECTOR, MR. JARED WILL GET BACK OUT WITH YOU REGARDING THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, CONVERSATION IN FOR NORMAL QUESTIONS.

RIGHT? OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU.

ALRIGHT.

SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS TO GIVE SAM, UM, PHASE ONE REPORT PROVIDED BY DR.

PAUL WITH BEING AUTHORIZED HIM TO PROCEED WITH, UH, WITH PHASE THREE.

SO WE'RE, UM, UH, HOPEFULLY WE HAD ALL OUR QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED, PROCEED WITH A LITTLE MINI SESSION, AND WE WILL STILL HAVE COMMITTEE REPORTS, UH, THAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD THAT QUESTION OR ANSWER IF THERE, YOU KNOW, UH, IF THERE'S, UM, AND THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO, TO ASK THEM, YOU CAN MOVE ON WE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TECHNICAL ISSUES, BUT, UM, SO LET'S, UH, LET'S GET THERE.

IS THERE ANY, UH, DISCUSSION AGAIN, THE ACTIONS

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REQUIRED THAT HE GAVE AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT TO AUTHORIZE HIM TO CONTINUE WITH PHASE TWO, AND THAT IS TO TAKE HER, UH, UH, OR DEEP WITH THAT, INTO THE, THE HOUSING.

SO COMMISSIONERS.

SO I WAS, I MEAN, SO WOULD WE BE ABLE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON, UM, MY QUESTION FOR ALL OF US, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, INCREASING THAT PARTNERSHIP WAS THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED WELL, I MEAN, THE PARTNERSHIP WAS A SNAPSHOT OF PARTNERS THAT YOU MET HERE, RIGHT? SO IT IS BY NO MEANS A THAT'S NOT THE PLAN.

NO, NO, I KNOW.

I'M JUST SAYING, I'M TALKING ABOUT SCHOOLS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HEALTH READING SO THAT THAT'S YEAH, YEAH.

UH, YEAH.

LET ME COOK.

I THINK KIP ASKED THE QUESTION, WHO'S DOING ALL THIS, RIGHT? AND THE ANSWER WAS, YOU KNOW, IT IT'S, UH, A PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMEBODY GUIDING THE SHIP.

AND IF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS THE RIGHT ENTITY TO GUIDE THE SHIP AND PULL IN ALL THE PARTS.

SO LIKE I TOLD YOU THIS MORNING, THE PLAN IS THE REDEVELOPMENT CRISIS PLAN, RIGHT? KIDS GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER.

HAS NEVER SLEPT.

THE REALITY IS THE REAL, THIS COMMISSION IS NOT THE ENTITY THAT NEEDS TO COORDINATE ALL THIS AND MAKE ALL THIS HAPPEN.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY IN THE WORLD.

AND THIS COMMISSION TO MEET ONCE A MONTH IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE CONCEPTS AND THE ACTIONS REQUIRED IN THE LAW AND SUCCESSFULLY DOING LAUNCH PAD AND DON'T MAKE IT.

YOU CAN'T MAKE IT HAPPEN.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION, BUT, UH, I MEAN, THERE, YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME REALITY, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE IN THIS PROCESS THAT WE HAVE A GREAT PLAN.

I MEAN, ARE YOU ENJOYING BEING THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND ALL THE STUFF THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT, BECAUSE IT COULD CAUSE THE WORK TO BE DONE AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND WE WANT TO DO IT SUCCESSFULLY IS IT'S NOT A PART-TIME JOB.

AND SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION ROLE IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE LAUNCH PAD SEGMENT.

THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO PLAY.

THERE'S NO WAY THAT THIS COMMISSION IS, IS THE, SHOULD BE THE, THEY SHOULD BE THE MANAGING BODY, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE IMPLEMENTERS.

RIGHT.

AND THE OWN, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE GROUND EVERY DAY, MAKING THESE CONTACTS, CONTACTING THE PEOPLE WHO WERE PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM AND MAKING, CHECKING UP ON THEM, MAKE SURE THEY'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON WHAT THEIR FOODS WOULD BE DOING BECAUSE WITHOUT, WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND NOT CABO MAXIMIZE ACCOUNTABILITY SEVERAL TIMES THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION, NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

NO, I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PACK THE BAG AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, BUT YOU GOT TO GET TO THAT POINT BECAUSE YOU GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE YOU.

RIGHT.

AND, YOU KNOW, JEFF IS DOING FIVE JOBS.

SOME DAYS HE DOES 20 AND 25.

SO WE DEALT WITH DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING FROM THERE.

IT HAS TO HAVE ITS OWN DEDICATED OR PERSON.

THAT'S WHAT HE DOES.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES THAT ARE THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

THEY WANT IT.

AND THEN THERE'S THIS LAUNCHPAD, TOM SAID, IT'S OVER HERE.

YEAH.

ALSO, I MEAN, REALITY IS GOING TO HIT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT HE LIKES TOP OF OUR PLAN OR IS IT, THAT'S WHERE I'M CONFUSED.

WE'VE WORKED TO HAVE A PLAN.

SO IS THIS JUST AN ADDITIONAL PLAN DOESN'T SUPERSEDE THE PLAN WE'VE ALREADY HAD OR IS THIS JUST SOME SUGGESTIONS TO TAKE OUR PLAN AND TWEAK IT? AND YOU KNOW, JUST AS THAT, THE HOUSING PIECE, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING PIECE, WE BELIEVE HOME OWNERSHIP, HOW LONG THE SHIP, IT WAS A GOOD THING, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE A PARTNER IN HABITAT.

WE, WE WORKED THROUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, USING IT AS AN INCENTIVE.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S KEY TO RETAINING GOOD, GOOD PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ISSUES WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WHY DO WE NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING BACK AND SAYING HAVE GREAT CONVERSATION WITH, YOU KNOW, A LADY TODAY WHO WOULD LOVE FOR HER CHILDREN TO LIVE HERE, BUT THEY'RE LIVING IN DURHAM AND WILMINGTON AND CHARLOTTE, BECAUSE THERE'S FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR, THERE'S MORE, THERE'S BETTER HOUSING, THERE'S MORE ENTERTAINMENT.

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THERE'S MORE THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO SOCIALLY AMONG PEOPLE THAT THEY WANT TO BE AROUND.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST BEING VERY HONEST AND, AND OUT THERE, SO HOW DO WE CREATE THAT NOW? WHAT IS THAT ANOTHER DIVISION? BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'VE GOT TWO SEPARATE PLANTS.

YEAH, YEAH.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I GUESS I'M LISTENING TO MY, I DON'T THINK IT'S ANOTHER, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A VISION.

IT'S A WAY OF WHEN YOU'RE READING, YOU KNOW, HIS OVERVIEW, HE DESCRIBES PROJECT LAUNCHPAD, NEWBURN, IS IT? AND A HOLISTIC PROGRAM DESIGNED TO BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH THROUGH HOME BY PROVIDING JOB TRAINING, FINANCIAL LITERACY, HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HE'S LOOKING AT HEALTH EQUITY.

I MEAN, WHAT WE, JOHN AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BRINGING PEOPLE TO THE TABLE THAT REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN AT THE TABLE BEFORE SOME HAVE, AND, BUT NOT IN A CONSISTENT WAY.

AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW JEFF, WHAT THE ANSWER IS TO THAT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE DID SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT, THAT ONUS.

I I'M THINKING THAT WHAT HE MEANT IS YES.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE SUING SHIFT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PARTNERS AND HAVE THESE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN IS THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S WHERE I SEE THIS IS THE VISION, PROVIDE GENERAL ACTION WEALTH THROUGH HOME OWNERSHIP BY PROVIDING JOB TRAINING.

OKAY.

CAN AND COMMUNITY COLLEGE, YOU'RE PROVIDING JOB TRAINING.

YOU'VE GOT THE VOLT SEVEN, YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT.

OKAY.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE THAT PARTNER, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL LITERACY AGAIN, HABITAT DOES IT.

WE'VE GOT JAY HERE THAT, THAT DOES THAT.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE SET UP THAT PROGRAM? JAY CAN DO THAT.

HE'S GOT A REAL JOB, BUT HE COULD BRING HEALTH AND WELLNESS AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE NEED ALL THESE OTHER RESOURCES THAT COME IN HERE.

SO IS THIS A PIECE OF THE OLD THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTION AND HOW, HOW I LOOKED AT IT AND HAND AWAY HE DID IT AND HE REALLY PUT IT TOGETHER SO ELOQUENTLY.

HE REALLY DID.

UM, HE KIND OF LIKE AMPLIFIED HOW CURRENT ROLE AS IS.

I UNDERSTAND WE KEPT SAYING WE CAN'T OWN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, BUT WHAT HE DID WAS HE ILLUSTRATED THE CONCEPT AS WE HAVE.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, HE COVERED THERE, HE COVERED HOUSE, HE COVERED EDUCATION, HE COVERED UP, UH, OTHER GOALS, OTHER GOALS, THE COMMUNITY, UM, WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE HOUSING PART OF THE, UH, THE SIDEWALK AND GUTTER, I MEAN, HE SAID ALL OF THAT, BUT WHAT HE'S, HE'S EXPERIENCED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT EXPERIENCED IN THE HOME PLAN.

WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN EXPERT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN EXPERT, WE HAVE AN EXPERT, BUT WE'RE NOT, AS FAR AS THE WHOLE PLAN COMING, COMING TO FRUITION, WE'RE NOT EXPERIENCED WITH THAT.

HE IS, YOU ARE HERE.

THIS MAN WAS WALKING THROUGH.

HE WAS SEEING STUFF JUST LIKE, HEY, I'M LIKE WRITE THIS STUFF DOWN, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT I THINK HIS VALUE IS AT.

UM, AND I TOTALLY AGREE.

WE CANNOT BE ALL HAVE JOBS.

WE CAN'T OWN IT, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION FOR SOMEBODY TO GIVE JEFF A RANGE, GIVES YOU A RAISE OR SOMETHING, BUT YEAH, BUT THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.

I MEAN, IT'S A FARTHER POINT IT'S AROUND BECAUSE IT'S SEPARATE WHEN I THINK HE JUST MAGNIFIED AND AMPLIFIED ALREADY.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK YOU'VE PUT SPECIFIC STRATEGIES TOGETHER WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF OUR PLAN.

RIGHT? INTENTIONAL.

IT WAS INTENTIONAL.

AND I MEAN, OUR PLAN HAS GOT SOME BROAD BASED TYPE OF STUFF IN IT, BUT I THINK FOCUS DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION PLANS OR PLANS AND THEY SIT ON THE BOOKSHELF REALLY NICE COUNTABILITY MET, YOU GOT UP, YOU GOT TO PULL THEM OFF AND GO TO WORK ONE OF THESE DAYS.

AND THAT'S, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF GETTING AT THAT POINT OF DOING SOMETHING BETTER, BE DOING SOMETHING I, IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING WE HAD WITH THE LADY FROM DURHAM, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK I MADE THE COMMENT, WHY AM I HERE AVERAGE THE QUESTION, WHY ARE YOU HERE? AND MY RESPONSE WAS THE QUICK PLANNING AND DO IT AND START DOING THIS RIGHT.

AND I THINK WE'RE AT THAT POINT OF, OF DOING, AND I THINK DR.

CALDWELL LAUNCH PAD IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE DOING TO DO, BUT WE GOT TO HAVE, WE GOT TO BE REALISTIC AND LOOK AT WHO'S GOING TO DO THE DOING AND THAT THAT'S THE WHOLE THING.

AND, AND KEEPING THE ACCOUNTABILITY, KEEPING US ACCOUNTABLE, AS WELL AS ALL THE, THE FOREIGNERS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, THE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, OVER IN THE DUFFY FIELD AREA, THERE'S 20 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, ALL TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING, UH, IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, ALL THAT HAS TO BE COORDINATED AND COALESCED AND PAMPERED AND, AND MASSAGE TO MAKE IT FUNCTION PROPERLY.

AND WE'RE NOT DOING IT.

WE CAN'T DO IT AT ALL.

NO, NO, NO.

YOU SPENT FOUR HOURS WALKING.

IT WAS FOUR

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HOURS.

MY OLD IS THE SAME ONE THAT COMES BACK ALL THE TIME AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED DIFFERENT PRACTICES, GREAT IDEAS, GREAT PLAINS, BUT SOMEHOW SOME WAY TO MOVE, HE'S GOTTA BE THERE TO MAKE THEM HAPPEN.

AND THAT'S A QUESTION THAT'S GOT TO BE IN THE BACK OF EVERYONE'S MIND WHEN WE GO THROUGH THINGS NOW BEEN TOLD THAT HIS HISTORY AND HIS PAST AND HIS EXPERIENCE AND HIS ROLODEX BRING SOME OF THOSE CONNECTIONS, BUT, UH, TWO WEEKS TILL WE GET TO THAT POINT, I DON'T, IT'S HARD TO GO FULL BOARD WHENEVER YOU'RE HEARING GRAND IDEAS THAT ARE JUST A NEXT STEP TOWARDS WHERE WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN TO WITH ALL WE NEED IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.

NOW, WITH THAT SAID, I THINK OUR WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT IS A ANOTHER BABY STEP.

I GUESS, IF YOU WILL.

AND MOVING FORWARD ON THAT, THE HOUSING SIDE OF THINGS, UM, UH, WE'VE GONE DOWN THE PATH BEFORE HAVING THE CONVERSATION OF WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE STEPS TOWARDS MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

AND WE DON'T EXACTLY HAVE A FLIPPER OF OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO MAKE THOSE STEPS FORWARD.

SO ABSENT A GREAT IDEA.

IT'S NOT A TERRIBLE IDEA TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.

IF YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT JUMPS OUT AS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE ABOUT IT.

STEVE SAYING I'M STILL HAVING TROUBLE SEEING THE LAUNCHPAD MENTIONED WITH THE NEWBORN REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

IT JUST, IT DOES SEEM LIKE A BIT OF PLANNING STUFF.

WE WERE MOVING INTO SOME ACTION STEPS, BUT LIKE AS A RESOURCE AND AN EXPERIENCE I'D LOVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE THAT ON OUR TEAM COMMISSION.

TRUE.

PRETTY MUCH.

YEAH.

I UNDERSTAND.

WHAT'S BEING SAID, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT JUST GETS TO THAT POINT OF ACTION.

AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE MEET ONCE A MONTH, SO I'M TRYING TO COVER EVERY DAY.

TRY TO GET INVOLVED WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS WOULD BE A CHALLENGE.

UM, BUT I DO, UM, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT AND JUST WHAT MS. DANIEL SAID, AS FAR AS RETAINING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, HAVING WALKING AROUND AND BEING INVOLVED DAILY, UM, FROM DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND HERE, ESPECIALLY, UM, IT IS A SEPARATE PIECE AS FAR AS LIKE THE ENTREPRENEURIAL PIECE.

UM, BECAUSE ONE THING THAT WE'RE MISSING IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH THAT I'VE NOTICED, UM, IS THAT WE HAVE PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF LITTLE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THIS COMMUNITY, THAT IF WE CAN SOME KIND OF WAY TARGET THEM, THEN YOU CAN BUILD ON THAT EXPERIENCE TO WHERE THEY CAN BECOME HOMELAND MEDICS, OR HAVE THE SMALL BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, BE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS, A LOT OF CREATIVITY HERE.

UM, IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY INVOLVE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AS FAR AS WHAT WE DO.

BUT I THINK THAT THAT IS A BIG PIECE THAT IF YOU TARGET THAT AUDIENCE, THEN YOU WILL GET THE AGE GROUP THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY ENTERTAIN AND STAY IN THIS AREA.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY PIECE OF THINKING, MICHELLE, WHAT ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

SO, UM, WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE IS, AGAIN, ACTION REQUIRED EXCEPT PHASE ONE REPORT, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE PHASE ONE REPORT.

SECOND SESSION, ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THE NEXT ONE IS AUTHORIZED, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CALL WEBS GROUP TO PROCEED WITH PHASE TWO.

AND SO PHASE TWO, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER.

SO, UM, COMES WITH ALL COSTS.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? HOW DOES IT LOOK AND WHO'S GOING TO DO, AND ARE WE READY TO MAKE THAT DECISION TONIGHT OR A CALL MEETING OR DO WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION? SO COMMISSIONERS, UH, I WAS GOING TO ASK, UH, MR. RUGGIERI REAL QUICK TO REFRESH US ON WHAT THE COST OF PHASE TWO.

JUST GETTING OUT ON THE ROAD.

YES.

AGAIN, WITH THE DELIVERABLE, UH, PHASE TWO WILL BE, UM, THE HOUSING, UM, DESIGN AND PROFORMA FUNDING OPTION.

DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? YEAH, I HAVE IT.

IT SAYS BUILDING ON THE WORKER PHASE ONE, DR.

CALDWELL OR FACILITATE A VIRTUAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING FOR THE

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PURPOSES OF DESIGNING THE FIVE COMPONENTS OF LAUNCHPAD AND ESTABLISHING SUCCESS, OUTCOME INDICATORS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SESSIONS TO INCORPORATE IDEAS AND FEEDBACK INTO THE LAUNCHPAD NUBER PROJECT.

THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE SESSION WILL CO-DESIGN MARKETING IMPLEMENTATION, BUILDING DESIGN, LAUNCHPAD PROGRAMS, TENANT SELECTION, JOB PLACEMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND MEASURES OF SUCCESS.

IT'S 4,900 AND IT INCLUDES PREP MEETINGS, LODGING, AND TRAVEL.

AND HE'S GOING TO, IT SAYS A VIRTUAL MEETING.

SO THAT ALWAYS KIND OF BOTHERS ME AT THE TIME OF COVID IS STILL NO BIG DEAL.

WE CAN.

IT, BUT LOGICALLY TRAVELERS THE IDEA WAS IT WAS A VIRTUAL AND AN ONSITE AND THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT.

I MEAN, THE WEEKEND WE CAN TALK ABOUT YEAH.

DELIVERABLES IS THE KEY TO ME.

THE PAIN IS ONE, THE WRITTEN REPORT WAS KIND OF LACKED A LITTLE BIT OF MEAT, I WOULD SAY.

UH, HE CLARIFIED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT THIS EVENING IN PERSON THROUGH CONVERSATION.

UH, BUT I THINK I, I AGREE WITH GOING FORWARD WITH PHASE TWO, BUT I REALLY WANT, IT'S VERY, WELL-DEFINED SET OF DELIVERABLES FOR THIS COMMISSION TO WORK WITH.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WAS GOING TO SAY.

OKAY.

I HONESTLY, SABRINA SAY SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I JUST HEARD A MEETING.

I'M JUST READING, I'M JUST READING.

HE SAID HE WOULD FACILITATE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING FOR THE PURPOSES OF DESIGNING THOUGHT THE FIVE COMPONENTS OF LAUNCH PAD AND ESTABLISHING SUCCESS, OUTCOME INDICATORS TO INCORPORATE IDEAS AND FEEDBACKS, MOVING OUT A LOT OF, TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM.

BUT I GUESS THE DELIVERABLES WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ACTION ORIENTED.

YES.

I THINK WE NEED TO REVISE THAT WHEN YOU'RE READING WHAT'S ON THE ORIGINAL DEALER, WHAT'S IN THE, THE NEXT STEPS.

AND WHAT WAS PROVIDED TONIGHT IS TIME TO FOCUS THE EFFORTS ON THE CONSTRUCTION FURTHER INTO THAT BUILDING ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

I KNOW THAT, UM, I KNOW KIDS ONCE AGAIN IS ON THE FIRST ONE, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA TO HIRE AN OUT WHAT WE EXPECT AND REALLY WE EXPECT, UM, DESIGN OF OUR FIRST THREE PROPERTIES HAS ALWAYS BEEN, UH, ALWAYS BEEN A CONVERSATION, UM, SCALE BACK THE OLDER SECTIONS OF DELIVERABLES FOR THE LAUNCH PAD AND JUST FOCUS ON HOUSING, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CONVERSATION.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT GOOD IDEA AT THIS POINT, SO WE CAN JUST, THEY STAY AWAY FROM THE SHOTGUN.

AND THE OTHER THING IS IT'S UNMENTIONED TO THIS, OR IS HE GOING TO FOCUS ON DESIGNING OWNERSHIP, HOUSING OR RENTAL HOUSING? IT'S RENTAL HOUSE HOUSING WILL BE SOMEWHERE ELSE OFFSITE.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT HIS DIAGRAM ABOUT LAUNCH PAD WERE RENTAL HOUSING, AND SO WE'RE PAYING THE MONEY, THEN THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE DELIVERABLES I'LL BE LOOKING FOR IS TO FULFILL OUR MISSION WITH THE RENTAL HOUSING, PROVIDING GOOD SOLID RENTAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.

YOU MENTIONED THAT TO ME ON THE WAY TO HOME OWNERSHIP, THEN IT GOT TO HAVE THAT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING TODAY.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CAUSE IF THIS END GOAL WAS, IS OWNERSHIP AND THAT'S GREAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN HE GOES THROUGH HIS DESIGN PROCESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, OKAY, ATTORNEY, UM, CAN WE APPROVE THE, UH, TO PROCEEDED PHASE THROUGH A THEN COME BACK AND DO THE DELIVERABLES? I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A BETTER PROCESS TO DIRECT STAFF TO CLARIFY THE DELIVERABLES, THAT WAY, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO, AND HE'S AGREED TO PROVIDE BOTH WAYS.

I HOPE WE DON'T GET TOO CONCENTRATED ON DELIVERABLES AND GET HIM TO PROVIDE US SOME VISION.

I MEAN, I GUESS JUST FOCUSED VISION THOUGH.

IT'S LIKE ONE OF THE OTHER IS NOT GOOD, BUT

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WE NEED BOTH, I THINK, TO GET A CELL.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I THINK IT'S PUT INTO IT.

WE CAN NARROW DOWN THE FOCUS AND PUT THE TIME AND EFFORT INTO A HOUSING COMPONENT, WHICH IS WHAT, WHICH IS WHAT HE SAID AT THE END OF THE OKAY.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, WE NEED TO, UM, AUTHORIZE PHASE PHASE TWO AND THEN EMOTION NEEDS TO SAY THE STAFF, THE LIBERALS, OR WE NEED TO JUST WAIT.

NOPE.

I THINK THE MOTION TO SET THE REPORT FROM PAGE ONE AND THAT VOTE IS SUFFICIENT AT THIS POINT, DIRECTING STAFF TO CLARIFY WHAT PHASE TWO IS.

UM, ONCE YOU GET THAT INFORMATION YOU CAN VOTE ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT TO MOVE INTO PHASE RIGHT NOW, WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO THAT AT YOUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING, OR DO YOU WANT TO DO A SPECIAL CALL MEETING, BUT I MADE SCRIBBLED ALL THIS.

WELL, WHY DON'T WE THAT STAFF PROBABLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH ALL THE COMMITTEES, THE HOUSING, ESPECIALLY, UM, AND THEN, UM, SEE HOW WE'LL GET IN.

MAYBE YOU WANT TO DO A CALL ME, EVEN IF IT'S VIRTUAL THAT OKAY.

WITH EVERYBODY, AUGUST 11TH WILL BE THE NEXT DAY.

DOES THAT WORK? OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH, RIGHT? OKAY.

UM,

[7. Committee Updates:]

COMMITTEE, UH, UPDATE YOUR HEAD, THE MIDDLE MORE HOUSING THERE.

PERCEIVED BARRIERS THAT ANYTHING ELSE FOR US LIKE? OH, SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO PERUSE THROUGH THE EFFORTS THAT STAFF'S PUTTING IN TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL AESTHETICS OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE DID TWO ABANDONED VEHICLES IS 48 TO GO THERE'S FOUR MORE ON THE DOCK AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET, UM, SO THAT, THAT IS GOOD NEWS.

UM, SECONDLY, LAST NIGHT FOR ALL THE MEN APPROVED OUR REQUEST TO RECEIVE 6 0 2 GAS AND INSTRUCTION.

UM, WE ARE ON SCHEDULE TO BE CLEAR, TO USE OUR FEDERAL FUNDS THE END OF THE MONTH, THE LAST DAY OF JULY.

UM, THIS MONTH WE GOT A 45 DAY HICCUP IN THE PROCESS.

CAUSE SHIPPO DID NOT RECEIVE SAID THEY DID NOT RECEIVE OUR APPLICATION THOUGH.

WE RECEIVED CONFIRMED RECEIPT.

UM, SO THAT WAS ODD.

SO WE HAD TO START OVER.

AFTER THE 30 DAYS WE'VE CONTACTED THEM.

THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO REPLY.

WE CONTACTED THEM ON THE 31ST DAY AND THEY SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE THE APPLICATION.

SO WE HAD TO START OVER AGAIN, BUT I GOT THAT EXPEDITED THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE LAG.

UM, THE SURVEY WILL BE OUT THEN THE NEXT DAY, FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST, SURVEYOR IS SCHEDULED TO BE ON THE NEW BANK'S PROPERTY AND SERVING OUT THE, UH, WHERE THE VOTERS WILL GO THE WEEK AFTER THAT, UM, THE, THE FOOTAGE WILL BE LAID THE WEEK AFTER THAT.

AND THEN THE WEEK AFTER THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOVING THE HOUSE OVER.

SO BY THE END OF AUGUST PERIOD, THE HOME SHOULD BE SITTING ON THE LOT ON EUBANKS.

AND THEN FROM THERE WE NEED TO START BUILDING THINGS.

ALL OF THOSE OKAY.

SECONDLY, OH NO.

HOLD ON MR. YANG.

I'M VERY EXCITED.

SO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS NOW THE PROUD OWNERS OF 2 0 3 AND 2 0 7 JONES STREET GOES DOWN THAT YESTERDAY.

UM, SO WE GOT MORE PROPERTY TO DEVELOP.

CONGRATULATIONS.

UM, MOVING ALONG, I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON YOUR MINIMUM HOUSING CASES, UH, 10 23 PUBLIC STREETS ON THERE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

GOING ON THERE, UH, WHILE THEY'RE IN, UM, VIOLATION OF THEIR ORDER.

SO UNLESS IT IS FIXED, IT WILL BE SCHEDULED TO BE TORN DOWN.

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THERE'S AN AGREEMENT.

THERE IS AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY ARE NOT MEETING AT THIS TIME.

THEY'RE NOT ON SCHEDULE TO MEET THEIR AGREEMENT AND IT'S CLASSIFIED AS DILAPIDATED, CORRECT? YEP.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE ON THE OUTSIDE FROM THE FRONT, FROM THE BACK OR THE SIDE.

UM, BUT OKAY, MR. YAN, I MAY REMEMBER QUICKLY WHAT PROPHECY, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY HERE? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO NO ME SAY HEARING, UH, IT'S REGULATED BY STATE STATUTE, CHAPTER 36, UM, LITTLE BIT OF MINIMUM HOUSING CODE.

AND IT IS A HEARING BEFORE THE BILL, UH, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL.

OKAY.

SO THE OWNER IS INVITED TO COME IN AND THEY HAVE THEM RIGHT HERE.

UM, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL AND MINIMAL HOUSING INSPECTOR ESSENTIALLY HAVE A MEETING AND WE OUTLINED LEGAL DOCUMENT WHAT THE DEFICIENCIES ARE IN THE HOUSE.

AND WE DETERMINED A TIME TO, UH, IT'S A MUTUALLY AGREEABLE TIME WITHIN REASON TO BRING THE HOUSE INTO COMPLIANCE.

AND THAT BECOMES AN ORDER OF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.

IT GETS FILED AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND, UH, AND IT BECOMES AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT THAT BINDS THE PROPERTY ON IT TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.

SO IF THAT, WHATEVER, AT THE END OF THAT TIMEFRAME, UM, BUILDING AN AUDIT IS FINE.

SO USUALLY THEY, WE ALWAYS WORK WITH PEOPLE.

SO IF THEY DO, YOU KNOW, HALF THE EFFORT, WE'LL ALWAYS EXTEND THEM.

SO WE KEEP YOU BUTTON MOST OF THE TIME, UM, PEOPLE JUST AREN'T INTERESTED IN PUTTING THE TIME AND EFFORT TO FIX THE PROPERTY.

SO AT THAT TIME, THE BUILDING, THE ORDER EXPIRES AND THEN WE BRING OUT AND THEN WE BRING AN ORDINANCE BEFORE THE BOARD INVOLVEMENT FOR DEMOLITION.

SO THERE'S AN ITEM ON A BOARD OF ALL WOMEN AGENDA REQUESTING A DEMOLITION ORDINANCE, GIVEN US THE AUTHORITY TO TEAR DOWN THE STRUCTURE AND THEN LEAN THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW, THAT'S THE PROCESS OF HOW THAT WORKS.

OH YEAH.

WAIT, YOU REMINDED ME OF WHAT I, WHAT I FORGOT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? UH, I'M JUST WONDERING, IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF PROPERTIES ARE HEADED FOR DEMOLITION.

UM, IS THAT SOMETHING COMMISSIONED, INTERESTED IN TO STEP IN IF THE HOUSE IS, YOU KNOW, IF THE PERSON IS NOT INTERESTED IN COMPLY WITH THE ORDER AND TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT, YEAH, WE REALLY CHASE DOWN ALL THOSE IN THE BEGINNING AND FOUND THAT ALL THESE HOMES ARE NOT A FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO REHAB WHEN THEY'RE IN THIS CONDITION, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NO ROOF, NO WINDOWS.

SO WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY'RE AT THIS POINT, IT'S, THEY'RE REALLY BEYOND REPAIR.

THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF THOSE ARE ALSO IN THE FLOODPLAIN, WHICH PROHIBITS US FROM BEING A PARTICIPANT IN THAT PROCESS.

AND AT FIRST IT WAS THE HAIRS TO THE AIR TIME.

THE TIMING OF IT, THE CITY ALSO HAS A DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT IS ANYWAY.

, UH, TOTALLY ONLY AUTHORIZED WITHIN LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT, BUT IT'S A SHAME FOR US TO BE TEARING HOUSES DOWN WHEN THERE ARE HOUSES THAT ARE ON THAT SLIDE.

IF WE COULD STOP IT BEFORE IT WOULD BE EVERY HOUSE, THAT'S A TOUGH SLIDING SCALE.

THAT'S A TOUGH ONE.

YOU GOT TO TELL EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT SOME WEEDS GROWING UP ON THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE, UM, AND GOT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF CRACKS HERE.

YOU NEED PAINT, RIGHT? YOU HAVE EXPOSED WOOD.

THESE ARE DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT IS A TERM.

UM, THAT'S REALLY DESIGNATED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

THIS IS A DIFFERENT DEAL.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

YOU EITHER MEET MINIMUM CODE.

WE HAVE A DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT STATUTE.

AGAIN, I A HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU CAN'T TURN DOWN, BUT IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS, IN ANY OTHER DISTRICT, THERE IS, THERE IS A DEMOLITION BY THE CORRECT STATUTE.

JUST DELAYS.

YEAH.

IF YOU KNOW THAT STATUE, LET ME KNOW.

CAUSE WE ONLY USE CHAPTER 38 AND 39 ANYWAYS.

AND THEN THE HOUSING CODE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES.

SO IT'S EVEN MEETS THE CODE AND EVERYONE'S GREAT, OR DOESN'T MEET THE CODE.

AND YOU'RE IN THAT PROCESS THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

NOW WE DO HAVE A DILAPIDATED AND DETERIORATED DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE HOUSE.

SO USUALLY WE DO, DO WE PUT A LOT OF, DID WE PUT CONDITIONS? WE DID PUT CONDITIONS ON YOUR RIGHT.

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SEVERAL.

UM, YEAH.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE LAP OF DATED FIRST TO NOW DILAPIDATE IS ALMOST LIKE, UM, MONOGRAPH, RIGHT? SO THE DILAPIDATED HOME, WE CAN'T TEAR DOWN.

IF THEY DON'T MEET THE RULES, IT HAS TO SLIDE INTO THE DETERIORATED STATE BEFORE WE CAN EVEN CONSIDER DOWN, DOWN ALL THE WAY AROUND YOU GET MY TEAM WHERE IT'S BEST OUT.

SO I GUESS BUILT INTO THE PROCESS.

THERE IS KIND OF A DEMO BY NEGLECT, UM, KIND OF METHODOLOGY AND THAT YOU HAVE DETERIORATED IS OKAY.

DILAPIDATED IS IT'S BEYOND JUST ABOUT THE, AND THE DETERIORATED MEDICAL OR THE CITY DOES NOT SUIT DEMOLITION.

INSTEAD, THERE IS A CONVERSATION AT HEARING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, DISCUSSED THE DEFICIENCY WITH THE PRODUCT, WITH THE PROPERTY, UM, GIVEN TIME TO BRING THAT PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE MENTAL HOUSING ORDER AND IF THEY FAIL TO DO SO, YOU STILL CAN'T TEAR IT DOWN, BUT THE ONLY REMEDY IS FINANCIAL PENALTIES ASSESSED AGAINST THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS ANALOGOUS TO THE REMEDY BAN.

JEFF, DID YOU HAVE, UM, I KNOW, RIGHT? THE HOME ON MAIN STREET THAT HAS FALLEN INTO MAIN STREET, I THINK IT WASN'T THE BANK'S ADDRESS, UM, THAT IS IN THE PROCESS.

UM, AND WE ARE SCARED.

WE HAD THE HEARING LAST WEEK WITH THE OWNERS.

THEY SAID THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN FIXING THE PROPERTY.

SO WHERE 21 DAYS AWAY FROM BEING FROM BEGINNING, THE PROCESS OF CREATING THE DEMOLITION, WASN'T ASKED TO GO ON THEIR ULTIMATE AGENDA.

SO IF ANYONE, I MEAN, IT'S AN ISILON COMMUNITY.

IF ANYONE'S SEEN IT, IT'S NOT GOOD.

WE HAVE MAIN STREET BLOCKED OFF THE BARRICADES KIDS CAUSE IT'S FALLING DOWN.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT, SO THERE'S A SYDNEY ACQUIRE, BUT NOT BY CHOICE, BUT EVENTUALLY IF THEY DON'T PAY THE LIENS, IT'S A TEXT, IT'S A TACTICAL CLOSURE AND THEN JOINT OWNERSHIP BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND CITY.

SO THAT'S THE LOCAL CLUBS MONITOR PROCESS.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WE CHARGED FOR THE TEAR DOWN.

IF WE HAVE TO COME IN AND TEAR IT DOWN, IT BECOMES A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE AMOUNT WE'VE GOT IN IT.

AND THEN IF THEY DON'T PAY, IT HAS TO WAIT TO GET TO A CERTAIN POINT WHERE IT MAKES IT FEASIBLE FOR OUR ATTORNEYS TO DO THE LEGAL WORK, TO REQUEST THE DEMOLITION.

SO THAT COULD GO ON A YEAR SOMETIMES YES.

TO FORECLOSE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T PAID THAT, UH, THAT FEE OR THAT FINE.

AND THEN WHEN THE CITY, WHEN WE DO THAT, WE GO AFTER THEM, THEN THE MONEY'S COME TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, OR, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ACQUIRE IT FROM, WE CAN SELL JOINT JOINTLY IF IT'S TAX, IF THEY DON'T PAY THEIR TAXES.

YEAH.

IF THE COUNTY TAXES AREN'T PAID AND THAT IS IT.

RIGHT.

WELL KEPT CONTINUED HEADACHE.

SO I'M WORKING, WORKING GROUP, THE AGENDA AND NO WORKING GROUP OUT THERE.

SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON I'M LAUGHING.

CAUSE I SENT THIS EMAIL TO YOU BOTH.

THIS IS MY REPORT.

IT'S LIKE EMAIL.

I WAS LIKE, THIS SOUNDS SO FAMILIAR.

UM, SO, UH, WHEN WE WERE WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS ON HEALTH ASSESSMENT DISSEMINATION AND HOW TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, UM, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET LAST, UH, I GUESS THE BEGINNING OF THIS MONTH.

AND, UM, WE HAD SOME, UM, SOME CONFLICTS WITH THAT.

SO WE WILL BE IN HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK.

UM, AS SOON AS, UM, WE GET FROM D SHE'S KINDA BEEN HELPING US WITH THE STAFF AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED TO NCQ JASMINE, WHO'S OUR, YOUR FACILITATOR.

UM, AND IN ORDER TO REACH OUR GOAL, WHICH IS 300 PEOPLE, UM, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT AS, YOU KNOW, A REAL REALISTIC TIMELINE IS SIX TO NINE MONTHS FOR US TO FINISH UP OUR ASSESSMENT OR TO GET THE INFORMATION, UM, AND THEN HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN INTO ANOTHER SET OF DELIVERABLES OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

UM, AND, UH, WHAT'D YOU SUCH A, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE WORK THAT DR.

CALDWELL TO HIM TOO, RIGHT.

HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AND DETERMINING NEXT STEPS.

UM, SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, SINCE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, UM, SPECIFICALLY , UM, AND JASMINE AND PASTOR, HOME'S A MORE FORMAL PROCESS OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND THE CITY ITSELF, WHAT THAT GROUP LOOKS LIKE, THAT PARTNERSHIP AND HOW WE CAN BRAND THAT.

SO WE, OUR LAST MEETING IN JUNE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS LITTLE SUB GROUP AND WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, AND MAYBE HAVING SOME LITERATURE ABOUT THAT, UM, AND BEING MORE INTENTIONAL, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GO OUT AND WE TELL PEOPLE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE GOAL IS FOR THE HEALTH, THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT COMPONENT,

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AND THEN MOVING FORWARD WITH HELPING THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, LET'S SEE.

AND THEN WE CONTINUE TO BE IN COMMUNICATION WITH OUR MOCHILA SUES, THE CITY GRANT WRITER.

UH, IN FACT, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAD A SESSION TODAY WITH, UM, MR. RUGGIERI AND MORGAN AND MYSELF.

UM, AND TOMORROW WE HAVE A MEETING, UM, WITH STEVEN NOVELS.

UM, AND I CAN GET YOU THAT SPELLING IF ANYBODY NEEDS UP, HE IS THE CEO OF, UM, CCHC.

UM, AND JUST TO START TALKING ABOUT 9 0 8 RULE APPEALS, I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD MET WITH MARGARET, I DON'T WANT TO SAY SIX WEEKS AGO, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, TO START TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HEALTH RAN INITIATIVES ON, UM, YOU KNOW, EITHER GETTING STAFF OR, UH, DOING REHABS FOR PARTICULAR BUILDINGS WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

AND THEN THIS CAME UP, UM, MEN WITH BLOOMFIELD.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, JEFF AND I HAD THIS DISCUSSION AS TO USE, AND THIS IS ONLY A VISION AND TO START HAVING CONVERSATIONS, BUT AGAIN, BUT HEALTH ASSESSMENT AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT ARE ESSENTIAL TO THAT PROCESS.

AND WE DID HAVE, WE DID DISCUSS THAT TODAY, THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST INITIAL CONVERSATIONS AS TO WHAT WE WOULD SEE, UM, HAVING THEIR, WHETHER IT BE STARTING WITH HEALTH EDUCATION PROGRAMS. UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE HOSPITAL NOW IS, UM, TALKING ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS WITH, UM, UNC AND WHAT THAT CAN MEAN FOR US AS FAR AS HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, PHYSICIANS THAT WANT TO DO COMMUNITY MEDICINE AS PROVIDERS, UM, YOU KNOW, MIDDLEMAN PROVIDERS IN THE FUTURE, BUT, YOU KNOW, STARTED WITH LOW-HANGING FRUIT AND DEFINING WHAT THE SPACE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE WITH JEFF AND MARGARET, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH HOPEFULLY COME THIS YEAR, MOVING FORWARD WITH GOING TO PLACES OUTSIDE OF WORK COMMUNITY AND SEEING MODELS OR PROTOTYPES AS TO HOW THEY DO IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH, YOU KNOW, SPIRITUAL WHAT A COMMUNITY, UM, CENTER LOOKS LIKE.

RIGHT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY KIND OF LEAVING IT OPEN TO SEEING, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS, SO THAT'S IT THAT'S UM, AND I KNOW THAT JEFF HAD ASKED ME, I DIDN'T PUT THIS IN, IN MY REPORT ABOUT OUR COOKING CLASS AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, COLLEEN DID SHE EVER, OKAY, SO WE HAVE, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT.

SO THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON THAT ALYSSA, UM, SUMNER WAS VERY INVOLVED IS WROTE A NEWSLETTER AND HAD ASKED ME TO EDIT IT, WHICH I STARTED OUT DOING.

UM, AND, UM, I'M NOT, I KIND OF DIDN'T, SO SHE REALLY WANTS THAT TO BE PART OF HER, UM, INITIATIVE BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO TRY TO EDUCATE.

AND I THINK WORKING, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN WITH OUR PARTNERS AND GETTING THE WORD OUT WITH PROVIDING THAT, UM, WHEN, SO IT WOULD BE A NEWSLETTER ABOUT, I KNOW SHE'S WORKING ON DIABETES AND REVERSAL OF DIABETES USING THIS PLANT-BASED DIET.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE PROVIDING THE RECIPE FOR THAT, AND THEN ACTUALLY DOING, UM, THE COOKING SHOW, WHICH IT WILL HAPPEN AT THE HOSPITAL.

I'M, YOU KNOW, I FEEL VERY COMPETENT ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK COLLEEN, UM, ROBERTS WITH THE CITY HAS ASKED TO BE INVOLVED, KNOW SHE HAS SOMEBODY THAT WORKS WITH THE CITY, BUT DOES VIDEOTAPING, IT WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS.

SO JEFF HAD OFFERED THAT TO US AND WE JUST NEED TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

SO A LOT GOING ON.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

UM, UM, FOR BUSINESS.

OKAY.

BINGO.

OKAY.

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