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ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

ONE MINUTE PER SPEAKER, ANY PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT, A MESSAGE IN THE IDEA

[3. Approve Minutes from the 10/13/2021 Redevelopment Commission Meetings]

OF THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 13, UH, MEETING, WE HAVEN'T HAD OPPORTUNITY TO, IF WE HAVE A MOTION OR IF WE GOT, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED FOR THE OCTOBER 13TH, MEETING CENTRAL ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

I SAID, THANK YOU.

AGENDA

[4. Review of Asbestos Report from Enviro Assessments East for 203 Jones Street]

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, A REVIEW OF ASBESTOS REPORT FROM THE INVALUABLE, UM, ASSESSMENTS EAST FOR 2 0 3 JONES STAFF, MEDICARE TO THE ITEM HERE.

SO IN YOUR PACKET WAS THE PROPOSAL FOR THEM.

AND, UM, IN ORDER TO DEMOLISH THE, THE STRUCTURE, WE HAD TO DO IT AS FAST AS TESTING.

UM, HE CAME BACK WITH A STATUS IN THE STRUCTURE, AS YOU CAN SEE THE QUILT, UH, JOSH OVER THERE WAS A 78 65.

SO JUST NEED APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

UM, WE HAVE ABOUT $387,000 IN OUR ACCOUNTS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY, GOOD ON THAT, ON THAT STAGE.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE VIRUS ASSESSMENTS EAST SAYS ALL THE CITIES, UH, SPECIFY THE, FOR ALL OF OUR DEMOLITIONS.

SO THAT WAS A QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM THE NORMAL DEMOLITION TO GO ON, ARE ALL OF THEM ASSESSED? WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE THAT HAS THE BESTEST ISSUE IS 99% BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COST RANGES ANYWHERE FROM USUALLY, YOU KNOW, USUALLY $2,500 IS AVERAGE PERSON, ALL THE HOUSES AS, AS HOUSE.

THERE'S A LOT MORE SPACES IN THIS ONE, UM, AND NORMAL, BUT, AND THESE BESTEST COMES IN WHAT FORM? MOST OF THE OLD SHINGLES OR EXTERIOR SHINGLES.

UM, SO HERE WE GOT ME, WE GOT UNDER THE ROOF UNDERNEATH THE MASK IN THE KITCHEN AND ASIDE YES, SIR.

UNDERNEATH THE VINYL SIDE.

HE'S THAT TRANSLATE SIDE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WHICH IS VERY TYPICAL.

WE GET HOME EMOTIONALLY INTO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT CONTRACT BY ROAD OF JONES STREET AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR TO EXECUTE THAT.

OKAY.

SECOND QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, RICK ADAM, ALL

[5. Request from Mrs Mary Peterkin to purchase 506 Darst Avenue (PID 8-008-072)]

FIVE REQUESTS FOR MS. MURPHY, COULDN'T BE PURCHASED BY THE SIX DOORS, UM, AVENUE.

AND YOU SEE THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION HERE A YEAR ASKING WHY DID THE RECOMMENDATION TO ALL THAT? SURE.

SO THIS BE AGAIN, WORKING WITH HER ON THIS PROJECT HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

UM, FIRST WITH DEMOLITION REHABILITATION, ALL OLD, TRYING TO GET SOMETHING HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

SHE'S, UH, AMBITION FOR A LONG SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOREVER.

SHE IS A PARCEL SHE'S IN A POSITION NOW TO DO SO.

AND, UM, AS, AS LUCK WOULD HAVE IT, I GUESS THERE'S A PARCEL ADJACENT THAT IS OWNED IN JOINT OWNERSHIP WITH CITY AND COUNTY HAS, THIS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER ABOUT IT, UM, UNDERSTANDING OUR PROCESS AND THAT C UH, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DOESN'T OWN ALL OF THEM, UM, PARCEL, BUT THE COST WOULD BE TO ESSENTIALLY INITIATE YOU UPSET, DID PROCESS.

MS. IS FAMILIAR WITH, UH, FOR THE PARCEL.

UM, IT WOULD BE REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, JUST TO ROUND OFF THIS CORNER.

UH, SHE HAS SOME IDEAS TO DO, UH, SOME PLANS TO DO A RE UH, COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL, KIND OF UNDER, OVER MIXED USE TYPE DEVELOPMENT.

HERE.

WE REQUIRE THIS PARCEL FOR PARKING TO MAKE THE PROJECT MORE VIABLE.

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UM, SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH GREG, UM, MARY, IF YOU WANT TO DO ANY PRESENTATION OF GREG, YOU WANT TO ADD SOME, ADD SOMETHING TO THAT.

AH, I'VE BEEN AT IT FOR A LONG TIME.

MY FIRST PIECE OF PROPERTY IN 1997, AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO DO THIS PROJECT, BUT WE WANTED TO DO IT WITH ALL OF THE LAND, NOT HAVE A PIECE HANGING OUT THE OTHER SIDE.

THEN WE COULD HAVE A NICE CORNER THAT SHOWS THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN HAVE A REALLY NICE PLACE TO SMALL BUSINESS AND APARTMENTS ON TOP QUESTION, I WAS ABOUT TO GIVE UP UNTIL HE SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

UH, MS. MARY'S, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY FAMILIAR ME WITH THAT AREA? SHE TOOK DOWN THAT BRICK BUILDING THAT WAS THERE.

UH, I HAVE ACQUIRED THE BLOCKS, BUT ON WEST STREET.

SO NOW WE HAVE THAT WHOLE CORNER, UH, ON, UM, QUEEN AND WEST.

AND, UH, WHAT WE DESIGNED TO DO IS TO PUT, UH, TAKE THE WHOLE CORNER, PUT FOUR STORES THIS WAY FOR THIS WAY, COMMERCIAL STORES WITH APARTMENTS OVER THE TOP, UH, WITH DIVISION TO BE ABLE TO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, IS REALLY DISTURBING TO ME IN OUR AREA OF DUFFY FIELD IS WE CAN'T KEEP OUR KIDS.

THEY GO TO SCHOOL, THEY SEE THE BRIGHT LIGHTS AND THEY NEVER COME BACK.

THEY DON'T SEE OPPORTUNITY.

SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS CREATE A VIABLE OPTION TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM TO START THEIR BUSINESS, GIVE THEM SOMEWHERE TO STAY WHILE THEY'RE STARTING THEIR BUSINESS, AND HOPEFULLY TO CONTINUE TO HELP THEM TO BE ABLE TO GROW THEIR BUSINESSES AND SEE IT IS WORTH COMING HOME.

AND THAT THERE IS A VIABLE OPTION FOR THEM TO COME HOME AND TO SEE DEPTH AND FIELD FOR WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

I THINK THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD WORK HAND IN HAND WITH YOUR GOALS AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.

IS THERE A TIMELINE FOR THE PROJECT YOU'VE EVER DONE? NO, WE PLAN ON WORKING.

WE GOT THE PRELIMINARY PLAN SOON AS A WEEK.

IF WE GET THE OKAY FOR THAT, UM, THEN WE'RE GOING TO, HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN, UH, SETTING THINGS IN MOTION, UH, ASAP BOTH OF US AND GETTING ANY YOUNGER.

SO WE GOTTA DO ONE I'M, ONE THAT LIKES PROGRESS.

I DON'T LIKE THINGS TO SIT.

UM, SO, UH, IF WE CAN ACQUIRE THIS AFTER WORKING WITH THE PLANNING WITH SETH, UH, THIS WOULD GIVE US ENOUGH PARKING.

UM, AND OUR VISION IS TO HAVE THE PARKING IN THE BACK WITH A NICE SITTING AREA, UM, PARKED LIKE RIGHT ACROSS FROM, UH, CREAM OF BREW WHERE THEY CAN GO GET THEIR COFFEE.

THEY CAN COME BACK TO THEIR APARTMENT OR THEY COULD SIT OUTSIDE AND JUST TO TRY TO BEAUTIFY THAT WHOLE INTEREST IN IT COMING IN AND DUFFY FIELD.

AND, UH, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, FROM THE HISTORY OF DEFINITELY FIELD, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BOTHERED ME SINCE I CAME WAS EVERYBODY TELLING ME HOW THE BUSINESSES AT FIVE POINTS USED TO BE THE GATEWAY FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

AND BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE RECREATING IS A GATEWAY OF FIVE POINTS THAT WOULD GIVE PEOPLE THE PRIDE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, WE CAN DO SOMETHING IF WE CAN DO IT THROUGH SOAKING AND OTHER PEOPLE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY FOLLOW UP.

UM, SO ONE THAT KIND OF WORKED ITS WAY BACK INTO THE, UH, THE GIS THAT WAS IN THERE SHOWING AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE PART THAT DIDN'T WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.

SO YEAH, I THOUGHT IT WAS, YEAH, THAT HAS ON TAX RECORDS ARE $14,290 RESIDENTS FOR CONSTRUCTION BUILDING 1945.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

SO THERE IS A LIBBY, HERE'S ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY AT 5 0 9 DARST.

WHERE IS THAT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THIS ONE THAT THE CITY OWNS AS WELL? THAT'S NOT HERE.

OKAY.

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AND THIS IS WHERE THE BUS STOP IS DOING HERE.

SO THE IDEA IS TO KEEP THAT PARCEL, TO ALLOW, UH, YOU KNOW, APP INTO, UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHERE IT WAS, AND AS FAR AS ANY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE, AND JUST UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE PROPERTY'S LIE, AND THIS IS MORE PROCEDURAL WITH THE CURRENT OWNERSHIP OF THAT, HOW WOULD THE FLOW WORKER ARE WE JUST NOT INVOLVED IN ANYTHING? WELL, I MEAN, THE RECOMMENDATION HERE WOULD JUST BE TO RECOMMEND OR INITIATE THE UPSET FOR THIS.

IT'LL BE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PROCESS.

SO WE'LL GET ON THEIR AGENDA.

THEY'LL INITIATE THE UPSET, LOOK THROUGH THAT PROCESS AT THE SAME TIME, SCOTT WORKS WITH THE COUNTY.

ONCE IT'S DONE WORK OUT THE DEAL ON THE MONEY EXCHANGE AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO, OKAY.

NOW WITH THE CITY'S PORTION OF THAT, COME BACK TO REDEVELOP COMMISSIONER FROM CALL, THIS IS GOING TO BE TO THE CITY OF HOUSTON.

IT'S UP TO THE COMMITTEE, THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD.

WELL, I WOULD CERTAINLY ASK THAT SENTENCE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT QUESTION.

MY QUESTION IS THAT, UM, I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF IT WASN'T ON THE FOR-SALE LIST, IT COULD NOT, YOU COULD NOT DO AN, UH, YOU KNOW, INITIATE UPSET BIT.

THIS IS NOT ON THE LIST.

SO WE HAVE TO VOTE FIRST FOR IT TO BE ON THE LIST.

THAT MAY BE A CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW, THE DIRECTION TO STEP HAS BEEN, UNLESS THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN DEEMED TO BE SURPLUS.

THE PERSON CANNOT GO ONLINE, SEE THAT IT'S FOR SALE AND INITIATE UPSET BID PROCESS OR THE PROCESS OF CLARIFYING THAT PROCESS.

SO THAT IT'S CLEAR, UM, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO PROPERTY COUNTY CITY ON PROPERTIES WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

UM, I WOULD IMAGINE BASED ON HIS RECOMMENDATION, IF WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THIS UP, THEY CAN DETERMINE THAT THE PROPERTY IS SURPLUS, THAT THERE'S NO NEED FOR IT FOR ANY OTHER CITY PURPOSE, UM, AND COULD PUT IT UP FOR SALE IF THE BOARD IS SO OKAY.

OKAY.

ABOUT FORT.

SO WOULD THIS COMMISSION BE THE ONE TO DEEM? IT'S NOT THAT IT IS SURPLUS NOW.

WHAT, WELL, WHEN I SAY THAT, I DON'T MEAN BECAUSE IT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION, I BELIEVE TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, WE WOULD LOOK TO THE COMMISSION TO SAY, DO YOU CONSIDER THE SURPLUS AND NOT HAVE A NEED FOR IT? THAT'S THE THAT'S ONE INQUIRY THAT WHETHER THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS USED FOR IT, ANOTHER INQUIRY WOULD BE BECAUSE THE CITY HAD SOME NEW SPORT.

DO WE NEED IT FOR A LIFT STATION OR FOR SOME ELECTRICITY OR UTILITY PURPOSE? IF BOTH OF THOSE ANSWERS ARE NO.

THEN THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN CAN MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER THEY WANT TO DECLARE THE PROPERTY SURPLUS.

SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH THEN BEFORE THIS CAN BECOME ON OUR AGENDA.

SO THIS COULD TECHNICALLY COME ON OUR NEXT AGENDA, CORRECT.

BECAUSE WE HAVE TO UPDATE IT AND GET, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK THE TH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WOULD NEED TO ASSESS THE PROPERTY TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S A USE FOR IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY THAT PROCESS DETERMINED.

OKAY.

IF THAT'S STILL THE SAME, IF THERE'S NO OTHER PLAN YOU CAN BLAME USE OR OTHERWISE OTHER PLANS TO UTILIZE THIS PROPERTY, THEN I THINK THE PROCESS COULD BE VERY QUICK.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING ALSO TOO, IS I'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE MOTION, WHATEVER THE MOTION OF THIS WORD BE IS THAT THEIR, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THAT AND THAT THEY CONSIDER IT SURPLUS TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW THAT THERE'S NEW NEEDS BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR THAT PIECE.

I THINK SOMEWHAT IMPLICIT IN RECOMMENDING THAT IT BE PUT UP FOR SALE FOR SOMEONE OTHER THAN OUR REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT IMPLIED, BUT I THINK CERTAINLY MAKING IT CLEAR.

THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

OKAY, GREAT.

WE NEED A, THAT IT WOULD GO A MINIMUM WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED.

THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN HAS ESTABLISHED.

IT MUST BE A MINIMUM, MUST BE 50% OF THE TAX VALUE COULD BE.

AND, UM, NO SHEEP.

I WOULD MAKE IT FUN.

YOU HAVE TO STAY, WOULD BE RECOMMEND THAT BIO $6 IS CONSIDERED SURPLUS PROPERTY.

AND IT'S A BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND MACHINE.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

WELL, THEY HAVE THE MOST, PUT FOOT CONDITION.

THE TREE HE'S SAID TO THE PEOPLE

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THERE WAS WAR THERE, UH, BY, BUT WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON AN ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

NAYS.

I SAID, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THEY KEEP SO MUCH.

THEY KEEP, THEY KEEP PUT CONTINUOUS, UM,

[6. Recommend New Bern Board of Alderman Seek Development Proposals for Property Located at 925 Broad Street (PID 8-008-202)]

UH, SIX AGENDA ITEM, SIX RECOMMENDED PEOPLE BOUGHT A BOTTLE AND SEE THE GOVERNMENT PROPOSALS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 25.

UH, BOY.

UM, AND WE HAD THIS ON OUR AGENDA BACK IN JUNE, IF EVERYBODY WOULD SEE HER AND WE HAVE THE CONDENSED VERSION IN YOUR PACKET, ON THE SHEET, UM, THE OTHER ONE, SO THE ACTION WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF ALL THE DECEASED DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED, UH, BROAD STREET BASED UPON THE DESIGN FROM, YES, SIR.

I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT I'M SURE THE PROPERTY COMMITTEE DID, BUT IT REVIEWED THE PLANS THERE.

I WAS UNINSPIRED BY A PROPERTY THAT IS A GATEWAY TO THE THREE DEVELOPED NUMEROUS.

UM, AND I WAS CONCERNED THAT THEY HADN'T BEEN NO BOARD PROPOSALS PUT OUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO GIVE US IDEAS ABOUT THE USE OF THAT PROPERTY.

I REMEMBER THE GENTLEMAN CAME AND HE TOLD US HOW MUCH OF SUN, OF EAST, OF NORTH CAROLINA.

HE WAS, BUT THIS IS A GENERIC PLAN.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MORE INSPIRED THAN WHAT HAS BEEN PUT TO US IN THE FORM OF THIS ONE, A ONE SHOT IDEA ABOUT WHAT GOES ON THE, UM, THAT, OKAY, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, UM, STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO BEAT YOU FIRST WITH COMMISSIONER HE WAS PREPARED.

YEAH, JOHN'S POINTING, I MEAN, AN RFQ R P HOWEVER YOU WANT TO STRUCTURE THIS.

DOESN'T IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY GOING AFTER THIS DESIGN.

SO YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO COME BACK AND GIVE THEM ME AND GIVE US THE BOARD OF ALL THE MEN, THEIR IDEAS.

SO IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD INSPIRE YOU, MAYBE WE COULD ADD THEM TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF SUMMIT, BUT SOMEONE.

SO THIS IS JUST ASKING FOR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS WITH THIS GENERAL CONCEPT.

IF SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, I CAN DO SOMETHING BETTER.

THEY THEY'LL, THEY'LL GIVE US THEIR IDEAS.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT WAS PROCESSED WITH PLAY OUT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, JEFF, THE FIRST STAGE OF THE IDEA IS THE ONE THAT PEOPLE COALESCE AROUND AND THAT'S, IT WILL BE THE ONLY THING ON THE TABLE.

IT WILL NOT BE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, OF SUCCESS.

THE PLAN FOR THIS ONE DESIGN COMPANY BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, ARE WE ACTIVELY SEEKING OTHER FIRMS, PROVIDE US WITH SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN ON THIS SITE.

UM, THE FACT THAT COLTON HAS DID THIS ALL FOR FREE IS A BIG DEAL TO ASK SOMEBODY, TO GIVE US A DESIGN FOR FREE.

IF YOU GIVE ME DIRECTION TO CALL UPON TO DO THAT, UNLESS WE WANT TO PAY THEM TO DO IT ON THE OTHER OPTION IS TO ASK YOU JUST TO GO THE RFQ PROCESS AND ASK DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR STANDARD LIKE, UM, ASK THEM TO COME BACK WITH THEIR IDEAS.

SO IT'S KIND OF A CATCH 22 IS WHEN I'M HERE ON HI, I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THE CATCH 22, JEFF.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE'D PUT OUT A REQUEST OR WE HAD ONE COURT REQUEST OR PROPOSAL.

AND IF IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR A COMPANY, THIS COMPANY TO DO IT FOR US, THEN IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE OTHER COMPANIES THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT ENOUGH BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A STAR IN ANY DESIGN COMPANY'S CROWN.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST THE OLD MOTEL.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE INTEREST TO NEWPORT AND WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE SUBURBAN

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WILMINGTON OR SECOND RATE RALEIGH, OR, AND I JUST DON'T SEE ANYTHING INSPIRING THERE THAT'S THAT REMINDS ME, OR MAKES ME FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN NEWMAN FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.

UH, I THINK THE ISSUE IS THAT THIS IS NOT, AND I WISH THE BETH WERE HERE, BUT THIS IS NOT AN ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURE.

THIS IS A LAND USE PLAN AND PERS PER SE.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT THAT IS THE UTILIZATION OF THE PROPERTY, NOT WHAT THE FACADE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

CAUSE HE GAVE US PICTURES OF 15 OR 20 DIFFERENT BUILDING STRUCTURES THAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

THIS IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING IS, IS THE UTILIZATION OF THAT PROPERTY.

UH, WITH THE STRUCTURES THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BEING THERE, WHICH IT IS IN THE RETAIL SECTION ON THE GROUND LEVEL WITH APARTMENTS ABOVE THIS, LIKE MR. PETER TALKING ABOUT DOING, AND ALSO WITH THE SECTION THERE, WHICH IS IN MY MIND IS MARKET BREAK APARTMENTS.

ALONG THAT SECTION OF, UH, POLISHED STREET, AS YOU RECEIVE, IF YOU'D GO DOWN THERE, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT AREA.

AND IT ALSO WILL TIE IN THAT WILL TIE IN AND BE PART OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE TRENT COURT PROPERTY, A, A LONG RANGE PLAN THAT THE CITY HAS.

SO AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS UTILIZATION OF THE SITE, AND I I'LL GO BACK AND PULL SOME OF MY OLD SKETCHES UP FROM A YEAR AGO, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO WITH THAT SITE.

IF I WERE DRAWING AND DESIGNING FROM A UTILIZATION STANDPOINT, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKED LIKE.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S YET TO BE THE SAME AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

BUT THIS, THIS UTILIZATION OF THE SITE IS WHAT I THINK IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT SITE AND, AND, AND BLENDS IN WELL WITH WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, UH, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FIVE POINTS AREA TO CREATE THAT GATEWAY OPPORTUNITY.

NOW, THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE FACADES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO MEET THE NEEDS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

RIGHT.

BUT, UM, WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ANYBODY'S AND INSPIRED ABOUT JOHN.

MAYBE I'M GOING TO SIGN THIS.

NOW YOU UNINSPIRED AT THE LOOK OF IT, OR YOU UNINSPIRED AT THE, WELL, IT WORRIES ME THAT WE HAVE ONE IDEA ON THE TABLE.

THERE'S ONE TEST, ONE IDEA, AS FAR AS UTILIZATION OF UTILIZATION ON THAT PROPERTY.

UM, MAYBE THAT'S THE BEST STUFF, BUT I WANT SOMEBODY ELSE TO PRESENT A PLAN TO SIT IN THAT IS THE BEST STUFF.

AND THAT'S THE WAY, THAT'S THE WAY THIS COOKIE'S GOING TO BE CUT UP AND USED.

UH, I JUST, IT BOTHERS ME WHEN WE HAVE ONE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE SEND SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL WITH THEIR NAME ON IT AND, AND HAVING ONE MADE IT, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REACT TO THAT WHEN YOU HEAR IT? SO THIS IS, IT GIVES US AN IDEA OF WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE PROPERTY.

I WILL, I WILL TELL YOU THIS, WE'VE ALREADY HAD TWO DEVELOPERS CONTACT THE CITY SAYING, WILL YOU SELL US THE PROPERTY? WE WANT TO PUT SOMETHING THERE AND WE'VE GOT GREAT IDEAS AND WE'VE FOUND INVESTORS AND WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO GO AND WORK.

AND YOU KNOW, THEN I'LL START QUESTIONING.

WELL, WHAT'S IT, WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE LIKE, AND I'M NOT, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT THERE.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANT THERE.

WE WANT APARTMENTS.

WE WANT, UM, RETAIL, WE WANT OFFICE SPACE.

WE WANT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WE WANT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

I, I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT, WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, I DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF THAT.

OTHER, ALL I SAW WAS ONLY PRESENTED ON JUNE THE 21ST.

THAT'S WHY WE LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND AT LEAST GET SOME IDEAS IF THIS IS WHAT THE PLAN IS, AND YOU ARE GOOD WITH A PLAN FOR RETAIL, YOU KNOW, APARTMENT, WHATEVER HIS PLAN IS, THEN WE CAN PUT IT OUT TO DEVELOPERS TO SAY, ARE YOU WILLING TO BUILD THIS? AND WHAT THE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE? WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE WOULD SELL IT, GIVE IT, TRADE IT.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE END RESULT IS.

AND ALSO TOO, THAT FOOTPRINT INVOLVES A LOT MORE THAN JUST THE PROPERTY WE HAVE THAT FOOTPRINT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS THAT GO INTO IT.

I JUST WANT US TO HAVE YOU, YOU'RE MUCH MORE SCHOOLED IN WHAT'S HAPPENED BEFORE THAN I AM.

WHAT ABOUT STUFF ALL THE TIME AND ASK THE CITY, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO DEVELOP DOESN'T MEAN THAT, AND I FIXED IT WITH ME, ASSURE THAT WE, FOR OUR MONEY GET THE BEST,

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BEST THING FOR THE, FOR THE USE OF UBER NEEDS TO THAT SPOT.

AND I'VE HAD, UM, I'VE HAD SURFER, UH, DEVELOPERS, UM, CALL ME AS WE ARE BOTH FROM YOUR, IN OUR TOWN AND PEOPLE FROM AROUND NORTH CAROLINA AND THEY GET THE SAME.

UH, YOU HAVE MENTIONED, YOU CAN PRESENT THIS TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND THEY WILL SEND OUT THE RFP, THEIR PEAS ARE INFUSED WHICHEVER, AND THEN TAKE IT FROM THERE, BUT WE NEED SOME IDEA.

UH, AND THEY ALWAYS SAY TO ME, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT COSTS MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.

THEY COST MONEY TO GROW PLANTS AND YOU KNOW, TO DO ALL OF THAT.

SO A LOT OF THEM REALLY ARE WAITING ON THIS PROCESS.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEY WAIT ON THIS PROCESS BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHEN YOU DO THIS PROCESS, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE SERIOUS.

WE NOT JUST AUGUST, WE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN ISI OR WHATEVER, BUT WE ARE SERIOUSLY REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION SERIES AND SENIOR USERS, UH, IS, IS SERIOUS.

BUT I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH.

EXACTLY.

YOU HAVE TO EXCUSE A NOVUS IN THIS PROCESS.

I JUST WANT THE BEST, CAUSE I MEAN, WE'LL NEVER HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY LIKE THAT.

AND, UM, UM, I JUST, ONCE WE MAKE THE MOTION TONIGHT AND VOTE ON IT, IS IT TOTALLY OUT OF OUR HANDS? IS IT A CITY COUNCIL FUNCTION YET? WHAT'S A CITY COUNCIL FUNCTION TO DECIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HIRE A DEVELOPER.

CORRECT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AND SO I WOULD THINK THAT AS WE GOT THE ANSWERS BACK OR THE PROPOSALS BACK, WE WOULD CERTAINLY BRING THEM HERE TO REVIEW AND LOOK AT THAT.

WE WANT A RECOMMENDATION.

WE ASKED FOR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT'S WHERE I AM A YEAR AGO.

WE MET WITH THE BOARD CHARGED THAT I REMEMBER, I MAYBE I DIDN'T HEAR IT RIGHT.

WAS TO NOT PROFESS TO DO ANYTHING, BUT TO COME BACK TO THE ALDERMAN WITH A VISION OF WHAT WE THINK THAT THE PROPER UTILIZATION OF THAT CYCLE, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I REMEMBER THAT THEY REQUESTED FROM US AT THAT TIME.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESENT.

AND IT SHOWED THE BOARD THAT WE DIDN'T IGNORE THEM TO START WITH.

RIGHT.

BUT WE HAVE HAD PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE COME TO US AND MAKE PRESENTATIONS.

AND WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT IS ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVE THIS AND WE EITHER LIKED IT OR DON'T LIKE IT.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE DECISION OF THE BOARD.

BUT THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK WOULD BE A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN, COULD HAPPEN WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IN ITS ENTIRETY, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PIECES THAT WE DON'T OWN WITHIN THAT.

BUT THE CITY THEN WHAT THAT DOES TO ME IS THAT ALSO MAKES THE CITY LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY, NOT JUST THE DAYS IN PIECE OF PROPERTY, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS CONCERNING ME THAT THEY LOOKED AT IT HOLISTICALLY, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PLAN DOES.

IT, UH, IF IT TAKES IN A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY'S PROPERTY AND IT TAKES IN THE ART CENTER, THERE YOU'D BE THE AWAY OF THE STORE, I GUESS, THE DOLLAR STORE OR WHATEVER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS THAT THAT AREA NEEDS A HOLISTIC APPROACH.

IT DOESN'T MEAN PIECEMEAL.

IT NEEDS A HOLISTIC APPROACH OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE, NOT JUST ANCHORING TO ANCHOR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SAMMY WHITE ON THE NEXT MAJOR INTERSECTION OF BLOCK, THAT WILL BE AN ANCHOR.

AND THAT WILL HELP HOPEFULLY TO DEVELOP WHAT'S IN BETWEEN AND TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT IN VICTORIA.

I JUST HAD VISIONS OF RALEIGH.

I GREW UP WHEN RALEIGH EXPLODED AND I LIVED IN AN OLD NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, UM, FLY-BY-NIGHT DEVELOPERS CAME AND PICKED OFF EVERYTHING AND, AND THE, THE FIELD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS, WAS KILLED.

AND, UH, I'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I JUST, I WANT US TO BE, TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A HOLISTIC APPROACH, THAT, THAT IT'S NOT JUST A SINGLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS.

I KNOW YOU PUT IN IT, IS THERE ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS COMPONENT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE IT SAYS APARTMENTS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THAT WOULD BE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE THE PROPOSAL BACK TO US TO LOOK, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CONDOS, WE DON'T HAVE THIS FAR, BUT IT'S RESIDENTIAL ON THAT.

FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THE BACKSIDE OF THAT IS RESIDENTIAL? THE FRONT SIDE IS RETAIL

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AND OFFICE SPACE.

SO HOW DO YOU, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IT GOES TO DEVELOPERS AND, OR IT GOES TO THE BOARD AND THEN IT'S UP FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO INTEGRATE NO, TO MAKE BIDS COME BACK AND SAY, WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, THIS AND THIS FOR THIS, THIS AND THIS ON PRICE.

OR IS IT BASED ON WHEN YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT HOLISTIC APPROACH? I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ANCHOR, UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO IN HISTORICALLY BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO I, THAT WAS THE ONE THING I DIDN'T HEAR DURING THE PRESENTATION WAS ANY MENTION OF THAT.

WELL, WHAT DOES THAT, I MEAN, IS THERE A SPECIFIC MATERIAL THAT YOU USE ONLY IN A BLACK MONDAY, BUT I'M JUST SAYING CONCEPTUALLY, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, WELL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE NEED, UM, JUST AS MISS PETER CAN SAID, THERE NEEDS TO BE IN DOUBT IN THEIR HOMES, TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO START BUSINESSES HAVE BUSINESSES.

SO WE NEED, WELL, I DON'T KNOW THE LAND USE.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING THE CONCEPT IS THAT IT'S RETAIL, RETAIL, AND OFFICE, RIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T DRIVE WHAT THE COST IS OR WHATEVER, HOW THAT LOOKS JUST AS WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THIS WILL DO.

WE KNOW WHAT THE VISION IS.

THE VISION IS TO PROVIDE A SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE AND WORK AND HONE THEIR STILLS.

UM, THIS, THIS WOULD BE IN THE SAME SPACE.

I JUST, AGAIN, DON'T KNOW ANY DOLLAR NUMBERS.

I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT.

I DON'T KNOW SQUARE FOOTAGES BECAUSE IT'S ALL IT IS AS A CONCEPT.

I MEAN, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? I UNDERSTAND.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, SAY IT'S A LAND USE CONCEPT.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FINE TUNED TO, BUT THAT WOULD COVER HOW THE BUILDINGS ARE STRUCTURED OR UTILIZED BECAUSE THAT GETS INTO MORE DETAILED INFORMATION THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE, UH, IF WE DO DO THIS, IF WE SEND IT TO THE OLDER MEN, LIKE THEY REQUESTED, THEY MAY SAY, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'VE EVER SEEN.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

AND THEN THEY FIND, THEN THE ANSWER IS WE'LL PUT UP SOME MONEY AND GO OUT FOR RFP, WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM AND, AND, AND PUT THE MONEY UP TO GET THREE OR FOUR ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS TO COME IN AND DO PLANS FOR YOU.

BUT THIS IS ONE THAT WE CAN SEND THEM AND SAY, WE'VE LOOKED AT, AND WE THINK IT'S A REASONABLE UTILIZATION OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY IN A HOLISTIC VIEW, UH, THAT YOU REQUESTED A YEAR AGO.

AND THEN THE BALL SHIFTS FROM US TO THE ALDERMAN TO SAY, DON'T LIKE, IT IT'S CRAPPY PLAN.

LET'S GO GET SOME MORE PLANS.

BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT TO SAY THAT THAT'S GOING TO COST SOME MONEY.

WE'RE NOT WED TO, WE WOULDN'T NEED TO BE WHERE WE COULD GET 10 REQUESTS OR PROPOSALS BACK AND NOT LIKE ANY OF THEM AND NOT BE WILLING AND DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS TO WHAT'S HAPPENED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

SOME WILL COME IN WITH EXPERIENCE IN THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND THAT DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.

AND THEY'LL COME IN AND SAY, WE CAN DO LOW-INCOME HOUSING HERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE X AND Y AND Z, WE CAN CALL THESE FUNDS TO DO IT.

I KNOW PEOPLE WILL COME IN AND SAY, WELL, WE CAN DO MARKET RIGHT HERE.

SO THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS AND DIFFERENT LEVELS OF EXPERTISE WILL COME IN WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS.

AND THAT'S PART OF WHERE THE FLUSHING OUT PROCESS AND SEEING, OKAY, WHAT IS IT? WHAT CAN THIS DEVELOPER, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY JUST PUTTING A CANVAS.

THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY BLANK IN FRONT OF DEVELOPERS WITH A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT AND SAY, TELL US WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT.

WE'VE SKETCHED OUT THE OUT OUTER LIMITS WHARF AND SAID, NOW YOU PLAY INSIDE THIS AND TELL US WHAT YOU CAN DO.

AND THAT'S THE ULTIMATE.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT THIS, WE GOT TO REMEMBER TOO, PEOPLE DO THIS EVERY DAY.

AND MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE SENSITIVE TO THE AREA IN WHICH THEY'RE BUILDING.

THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HISTORY THEY CAN LOOK RIGHT ACROSS THERE.

THEY SEE CRAIG AND MATERIAL.

THEY CAN LOOK OVER THERE AND THEY SEE ALL OF THAT.

AND THEY WILL BUILD WITH ALL OF THAT IN MIND, THE CITY HAS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CLAUSE.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS.

PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, BUT THEY ALSO NEED TO KNOW TO, TO MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY PROSPEROUS, WHAT THEY NEED TO HAVE BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED JOBS AND THEY DON'T NEED THE $8 AND 25 CENT JOBS.

THEY NEED TO DO MORE THAN SERVING.

THEY NEED TO OWN THEIR OWN BUSINESS TO BE A WEALTH.

SO ANYBODY, ANY DESIGNER DEVELOPER WILL KNOW THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE GREATEST DEPARTMENT.

THERE IS WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND IT ALL HAS TO COME THROUGH HERE AND THEY'RE SENSITIVE TO IT.

THEY HAVE A HISTORIC PERSON HERE.

AND SO THEY KNOW ALL OF THAT.

THEY KNOW ALL OF THAT.

AND SO, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, MY POINT IS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE IN A BUBBLE.

AND THEN NOT ONLY THAT HE HAS TO COME BACK TO THE OTHER GRADE TO SEE IT.

AND THAT'S THE NEW REBUILT ME.

AND FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.

WELL, IT DOES, RIGHT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT, I THINK THAT PROPERTY WAS UNDER THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

AND IT SEEMED TO ME AS

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WELL THAT IT WAS AN ALABAMA.

YEAH, IT'S IN THE BOUNDARIES, BUT WE ALWAYS KNEW IT'S GOTTA BE A PARTNERSHIP.

WE CAN'T, I WOULD HATE TO THINK I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR MY COLLEAGUES.

BUT LAST WEEK FOR MYSELF THAT I WOULD, I WOULD NOT WANT THIS PROJECT DONE AS HARD AS I FOUGHT FOR THIS COMMISSION TO EXIST AND TO MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD NOT WANT ANYTHING TO BE DEVELOPED THERE OR IN ANY PARTS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION THAT THE CITY OWNED WITHOUT THIS BOARD, REVIEWING IT, WEIGHING IN ON IT AND HAVING SOME SAY-SO IN IT.

WE MIGHT NOT ALL AGREE, BUT AT LEAST THE REVIEW OF IT.

AND THE INPUT OF IT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S THE REASON THIS COMMISSION WAS PUT TOGETHER WAS TO HAVE THAT INPUT AND TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE VISION IS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE IT UP HERE ANYMORE, BUT YOUR, YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES TELL US THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

SO IN LOOKING AT THE PROJECT, IF YOU USE , YOU'RE HESITANT, HESITANT, WHATEVER THE WORD IS.

I DID TALK TO THEM.

I'VE BEEN TALKING SINCE COX THIS MORNING, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND, I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING TO SKIN, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT WE ARE AT LEAST TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, SOMETHING, BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE KEEP THINGS FOREVER AND WE DON'T GET IT.

I MEAN, IF NOTHING ELSE THAT STIRS THE POT AND INITIATE CONVERSATIONS, AND PROBABLY MORE DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE ALDERMAN AND THE BOARD AND THIS, THIS BOARD, THE COMMISSION, UH, THE BAPTIST PIECE OF PROPERTY, BECAUSE IT'S SITTING THERE DOING NOTHING RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK WITHOUT SOMEBODY THAT IS GOING TO STAY THAT WAY, I WAS PREPARED NOT TO VOTE FOR IT, BUT I'M GOING TO TRUST YOUR VISION.

AND, AND WITH THE BELIEF THAT WE WILL STILL HAVE S HAVE SIGNIFICANT SAY SO IN HOW THAT PROPERTY INTEGRATES WITH WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, COMMISSIONER TRIP, ANY COMMENTS? THOUGHTS? NO, I THINK THEY MADE A GOOD POINT AS FAR AS IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS, UH, ONCE WE BUILD SOMETHING THERE, THAT IT IS STILL PART OF THE COMMUNITY, IT'S THE GATEWAY TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT BEING ABLE TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY, THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, I DON'T KNOW THE BACKGROUND, WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AS A DEVELOPER, BUT BEING ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE THAT, UM, WOULD, WOULD IMPACT THAT WHOLE AREA WOULD BE A GOOD THING.

LIKE I SAID, WHETHER IT BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH LIKE YOU SAID, MONEY-WISE, IT MIGHT NOT WORK, BUT, UM, TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE ENTIRE FIVE POINTS COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO HAVE FROM A DEVELOPER TO SAY, WHAT'S THE IS FACE.

CAN YOU CREATE FOR THAT? AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG PART.

THANK YOU, MR. STRICKLAND.

SO YOU SHOULDN'T GET AND EVERYTHING.

WHAT MAKES YOU ALRIGHT? UM, IF THERE'S NO POINT ON THIS SESSION, BECAUSE WE HAD A MOTION AND LOTION IS ALL BOYS STREET BASED A PUBLIC DEFENDER RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S NOT THE PROPOSAL THAT I WOULD MAKE.

YEAH.

LIGHTEN THAT UP.

THAT'S WHAT'S OVER HERE.

I THINK BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION, THEREFORE THE MOTION I WOULD MAKE IS THAT A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, UH, PRESENTING TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, UM, THEY CITE SITE UTILIZATION PLAN FOR THE DAY, THEN AREA.

THEN I SAY AREA BECAUSE IT'S LIKE I SAY, IT'S A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THIS, UH, THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WHENEVER THE DATE IS.

AND WE WOULD, AND WE RECOMMEND THE BOARD TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER ADOPTING THIS SITE PLAN, UH, FOR THIS SITE, IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THEY WANT, BUT DO YOU WANT US TO SEE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS? YOU'VE NEVER SAID THAT.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN AT YOU

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DON'T WANT TO SHAKE IT UNTIL YOU HAVE ADOPTED THE SITE PLAN.

THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS A, THIS IS AN RFQ LAND.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE SEEKING QUALIFIED DEVELOPMENT FIRMS TO BID ON THIS SITE BASED UPON THIS SITE.

THAT'S THE WORD I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

LET'S SEE.

I THINK THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ROLE THAT THE ALDERMAN DO? I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE YEAH.

I MEAN, WHILE I'M TRYING TO DO IS GET THIS SITE BUYING IN FRONT OF THE CONSIDERATION.

I MIGHT SAY THIS STIRRING, THE POT TO GET THIS THING MOVING IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER, THAT MAYBE YOUR EMOTION, WHICH IS WHAT , BECAUSE WHEN YOU SEND THAT OUT, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND THEY MAY SAY, YOU KNOW, I REALLY LOOKED AT THIS AND I THINK IT'S BETTER WITH THE BUILDING TURNED THIS WAY AND THIS GOING THAT WAY THEY COULD, THEY COULD COME BACK AND SAY THAT, BUT THIS IS JUST THE FOOTPRINT TO SAY, HERE IS WHAT WE THINK.

AND AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD GET THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WE DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND IF WE CAN'T, THEN WE GO, WE'RE BACK AT THE DRAWING BOARD.

THAT'S WHY THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN NEEDS TO SEE THIS.

CAUSE THIS REQUIRES THAT I KNOW.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING THAT I KNOW.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO ANYTHING OF REAL SIGNIFICANCE WITH JUST THE DAYS IN PROPERTY, CORRECT.

THAT, THAT WE AND THE CITY WOULD BE PROUD OF.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, UH, WITH JUST THE CONFIGURATION OF THE DAISY PROPERTY.

UH, I THINK THAT, AND I THINK THE BOARD NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND DEAL WITH IT.

WELL, THIS IS THE MOTION.

I THINK THIS IS THE EMOTION I HEAR FROM THE SPIRIT BOARD, THAT THE MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN REVIEW AND ADOPT THE SITE PLAN CONCEPT CREATED BY COLE, JANESSA STONE AND SOLICIT BIDS TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN.

I HAVE ONE OBJECTION TO THAT.

I I'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE THAN ADOPT.

THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S THE WAY I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THAT.

IF YOU PUT IT BEFORE AND SAY, WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST PLAN THAT YOU ADOPTED, THEN THAT'S GONNA CUT DOWN ON THE STIRRING, THE POT.

I JUST, IT SEEMS TO ME, IF THEY DO IT BETTER TO SAY THAT YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE START THE PROCESS OR THAT WE GO INTO AN RFQ, OR WE REQUEST AN RFQ OR PUT OUT AN RFQ BASED ON, ON THIS CONCEPT, WE RECOMMEND THIS CONCEPT THAT YOU, UM, TO USE, TO USE, TO PUT OUT AN RFQ, FORESIGHT DEVELOPMENT, QUALIFIED, WELL QUALIFIED DESIGN PEOPLE.

AND ARE WE DOING DESIGN BUILDER? WE GET RID OF ARCHITECTS.

I'M WAITING FOR MY BLOOD PRESSURE TO COME BACK DOWN.

SORRY.

YOU CAN CERTAINLY FIND THE MOTION IN THE WAY THAT ALTHOUGH THE ALDERMAN BINGO HAS JUST HAD THIS OTHER VERY STRANGE IDEA TO AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR, TO SIGN A LETTER TO THE MAYOR AND THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND CLOSING THIS PLAN AND ASKING THEM TO CONSIDER IT IN THAT FORMAT.

YOU GUYS DID THAT THE SAME COMPENSATION, BUT YEAH, PRESENTING, THIS IS THE CONCEPT THAT WE RECEIVED.

WE LIKE THESE PARTICULAR ELEMENTS OF THIS DESIGN.

YOU ASKED US TO BRING YOU A CONCEPT HERE IT IS.

YEAH.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN CAN REALIZE IT AND REVIEW IT AND CONSIDER ANY ACTION STEPS THAT THEY CAN.

IT WASN'T JUST THE LIST.

IT WASN'T DEFINED DEVELOPERS.

NO, IT WAS TO REVIEW DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS AS THEY CAME.

OKAY.

I JUST WENT BACK TO SOMETHING CAUSE THERE WAS IN IT, IT WOULD BE A MEANS OF INTRODUCING COMPETITION INTO THE REDEVELOPMENT

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PROJECT, SO QUALIFIED TO BE SELECTED.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT.

I THINK THE ART IS.

SO I THINK THE MOTION IS TO AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR, TO SEND A LETTER TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN IN CLOSING THIS DESIGN CONCEPT FOR THE OF REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION.

YEAH.

MANGO.

BUT KEN MADE THE MOTION WHEN HE SAID, YEAH, OUR DISCUSSION, NOT DISCUSSION.

DID I SAY, OH, EXCUSE ME, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

AND THEN IT WASN'T A QUESTION.

I MEAN, JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I'M COMPETITION, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF CITIES DO DESIGN COMPETITION.

SO I KNOW IT'S DIFFERENT.

WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU'RE TALKING FREE IN COMPETITION.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS FINANCIALLY, BUT, UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE INTERESTING WORD.

SO YOU MIGHT'VE BEEN HERE 35 YEARS AGO.

THEY HAD A COMPETITION FOR UNION PARK AND PEOPLE CAME FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THEY HAD THIS COUNTRY AND YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT THEY DESIGNED, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SEE TODAY BECAUSE IT WAS SO FAR OUT THERE.

EVERYBODY LOVED IT AND SHARED IT AND UPLOADED IT, BUT IT WAS UNREALISTIC PROFESSIONAL, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.

THESE WERE PERFECT.

DO YOU REMEMBER IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

REALISTIC.

MAY I SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, GREG.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, AGENDA ITEM

[7. Initiate Asbestos Abatement Process for Structures Located on 710 W A Street (PID 8-006- 105)]

NUMBER SEVEN, INITIATE THE BEST AS A BABY PROCESS.

THE SCORCHER CHURCHES LOCATED ON 17, 17 0 8 AVENUE.

YEAH.

MARY HAD TO TELL ME THE HOUSE 77 WEST STREET, AND I KEPT GOING TO WESTERN.

I COULDN'T FIND IT.

UM, SO MAYBE BEST JAMIE PONTIFICATE ON THIS ONE AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

UM, THE MAT BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN SHOWS A PARCELING LARGE RECTANGULAR PARCEL THAT IS LABELED ON OUR GIS MAP HAS 17 WEST EIGHTH STREET.

THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WAS DEED AT THIS PROPERTY BY A PRIVATE ENTITY.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, THERE WAS A FIRE IN THE STRUCTURE THAT IS LABELED ON THE MAP, SEVEN, 10, THAT HOUSE CAUGHT ON FIRE.

UM, THE FIRE AND THAT HOUSE ENDED UP MELTING SEVEN 16, THAT RIGHT.

7 0 8, 7 0 8, WHICH IS NOT IN YOUR PURVIEW.

YOU DON'T OWN THAT STRUCTURE, THAT CITY COUNTY.

SO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION ARMS BACK AND STANDING POINT HERE, THE STRUCTURE LABEL SEVEN 10, THE STRUCTURE LABEL SEVEN 16 AND THE STRUCTURE SEVEN 18.

MOST OF IT, SEVEN OF STRADDLES, THE BOUNDARY.

WE'RE TRYING TO UNTANGLE THAT ONE.

UM, THESE THREE STRUCTURES WERE WELLING STRUCTURES.

UM, SEVEN 10 IS IN A TERRIBLE STATE OF DILAPIDATION.

UM, AND IF YOU HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF IT, JEFFREY HAD PHOTOS.

IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY IT, IF YOU'VE SEEN IT, IT ISN'T A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE STATE OF DISREPAIR AND IT'S HAZARDOUS.

UM, SO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND SOME OF OUR PUBLIC OFFICIALS HAVE SURVEYED THE SITE AND VERY CONCERNED.

SO STAFF HAS BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER, UM, JOINING WITH SPECIALISTS TESTING, TO FACILITATE ULTIMATELY DEMOLITION OF THIS PROPERTY.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF RESOURCES AND TRYING TO UNTANGLE SOME OF THE TITLE PROBLEMS WITH THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S BOUNDARY LINES ARE VERY MUCH ATYPICAL TO OTHERS IN THE AREA.

SO I'M FEEL CONFIDENT.

AND I THINK MR. DAVIS DOES TOO, THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OWNS SEVEN, 10 AND 7 16, 7 18 IS A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, BUT TONIGHT, UM, THE COMMISSION SHOULD CONSIDER WHAT, IF ANYTHING CAN BE DONE AS REGARDS

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AS IT RELATES TO THE STRUCTURE AT SEVEN 10, UM, YOU ALL ARE IN THE REDEVELOPING BUSINESS AND OWNING UNSAFE UNFIT DWELLINGS, UM, MAY OR MAY NOT BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO.

SO WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU NOW, SO YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THIS STRUCTURE, WHETHER IT'S FINANCIALLY PRUDENT TO TRY TO KEEP HER, WE HAVE THE STRUCTURE OR WHETHER IT'S A BETTER USE OF YOUR RESOURCES TO TEAR THE STRUCTURE DOWN SO THAT IT'S SAFE AND NOT APPLIED TO THE COMMUNITY AS IT, FOR HAPPENING, ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, CONDUCT TO THE HOUSE.

UM, AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

AND CERTAINLY YOUR OPTIONS ARE YOU CAN DO THIS BEST AS TESTING AND HAVE IT TORN DOWN.

UM, YOU COULD TRY TO BUILD A BACKPACK TO THE HOUSE IF YOU WANT IT TO.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S WISE.

UM, BUT I THINK THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. RUGGIERO WOULD BE TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE.

AND STEP ONE IN THAT PROCESS IS TO DO THE SPECIFIED TESTING AS YOU'VE DONE WITH JUMP STREET.

WHY, WHY ARE WE IGNORING THE OTHER TWO STRUCTURES? ONE OF THEM, WE ARE WELL, SEVEN, 18.

WE DON'T KNOW IF REAL, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT WE OWN BECAUSE IT'S STRADDLING THAT LAUNDRY.

AND WE'RE A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

1 7 16.

YOU CERTAINLY COULD TAKE ACTION WITH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO 7 0 8 IS OUTSIDE OF YOUR PURVIEW.

IT'S COUNTY CITY ON AT LEAST ACCORDING TO GIS.

UM, THERE WAS A TAX FORECLOSURE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO THAT HAD TO BE UNTANGLED.

UM, SO I'M SCRATCHING MY HEAD ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP OF SEVEN AND EIGHT.

BUT IF YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU SURF AND YOU SAY, NOPE, YOU KNOW, INSPECTIONS NEEDS TO GO AND SET 7 0 8.

I DON'T KNOW IF MR. JERRY, DO YOU KNOW THE CONDITION OF 7 0 8, 7 0 8 IS SO THAT'S OUTSIDE OF YOUR PURVIEW.

WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER TAKING ACTIONS UP ON SEVEN, 10 AND 7, 6 16, CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND SPEND THE MONEY TO SEND, MOBILIZE SOMEBODY TO GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT 16 ALSO, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GO, IF YOU REMEMBER THIS, THIS BLOCK OF LAND, IF WE CAN ACQUIRE SIX SPECIALLY, IF WE CAN ACQUIRE 7 0 8 BECOMES IT CAN BE ACTUALLY TURNED INTO ABOUT EIGHT SINGLE FAMILY HOME SITES, SEVEN OR EIGHT.

AND THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVES AND FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT AND FOR CREATING A NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL OF HOUSING.

AND SO LET'S GET ON WITH IT AND GET RID OF THIS STUFF.

SO WE CAN START DOING SOME PLANNING AND MOVE ON.

DO YOU HAVE A REPORT OR AN ESTIMATE AS TO THIS BEST IS TESTING COSTS FOR ANY OF THE STRUCTURES? SO WE HAVE IT UP THERE, UM, IS $400.

FOUR OUT OF EIGHT IS INCLUDED.

SEVEN ORDERS INCLUDED 10 AND 16, UM, 6, 10 16, 7 0 7 16, 7 27 TIMES $400.

SO TAKE IS TAKEN 16 OR 18.

I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, IT'S NOT EVEN MORE THAN 500 BUCKS.

HOW'S THAT? IT'S GIVING YOU A DISCOUNT IF YOU DO ALL OF THEM.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S JUST THE ASSESSMENT THAT IDENTIFIED THAT THERE IS A SPECIALIST, THEN THEY'LL FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST TO ABATED.

CORRECT.

AND MITIGATE THAT STUFF.

AND THEN THAT'LL BE BACK TO BACK TO YOUR $7,000.

CORRECT.

I MAY BE BEST JUST AUTHORIZED AND THEN TEST IT AND AUTHORIZE FUNDS TO REMOVE SO WE CAN JUST BE DOWNLOADED YEAH.

YEAH.

JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH VENTILATION, INCLUDING AS FASTEST TEST IS TESTING REMOVAL, DEMOLITION.

YEAH.

UH, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER TRUTH, OR WHICH STRUCTURES AND ALL THE ONES WE OWN, IT'S KIND OF 16 AND YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH YOU HOW LONG IT MAY TAKE ON ONE SORT OF THINK I DO NOT HAVE ANY, SO THE MOTION WOULD JUST BE TO PROCEED WITH THIS BESTEST TESTING REMOVAL AND DEMOLITION SEVEN OF SEVEN, 10 AND SEVEN 16.

OKAY.

MRS. JONES, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHT MR. MILLS? I MADE THE MOTION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

SO THAT IS

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TO REMOVE THE ASSESSMENT REMOVED AND YOU MARK.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WAS THAT YOUR MOTION? SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, NUMBER

[8. Committee Updates]

EIGHT COMMITTEE, UH, UPDATES.

WE HAD GOOD UPDATES ON STAFF FROM NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, NEIGHBORHOOD IS, UM, I CAN LIKE GREG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SOME NEIGHBORHOOD STUFF? WELL, IF I HAVE PICTURES OF THE OTHER, EVERY I WALKED BY AND I HAD TO GET A CAR FROM BEHIND HIS HOUSE.

SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH DILAPIDATED HOUSES.

UH, SO, UH, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THAT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

UM, WE'VE, UH, MOVED 40 VEHICLES.

UH, WE HAVE A BAITED, UH, OVER 30 HOUSES WITHOUT HAVING TO SEND LETTERS WHERE WE GET THE PEOPLE TO COOPERATE WITH US, WITH CLEANING UP AROUND THEIR HOUSES.

UH, SO WE CONTINUE IF YOU, UH, EVEN GOING DOWN, UH, UH, QUEEN AND OR WEST STREET, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN, UH, HOW HAS BEEN THE NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE HAVE COOPERATED WITH ME.

UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO JUST CONTINUING TO PREPARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR WHAT'S COMING.

UH, AND, UH, WHAT I DESIRE IS TO CONTINUE TO HELP THE DEPUTY FIELD AREA, BE READY TO RECEIVE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING THROUGH AND TO, UH, AS JOHN STATED TO KEEP THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MAKE IT AFFORDABLE AND TO, UH, JUST GIVE PEOPLE A NEW SENSE OF HOPE AND A VIABLE LIVING PLACE THAT THEY CAN BE PROUD OF.

AND IF THEY'RE PROUD OF THAT, NEWBORN CAN BE PROUD OF, I GUESS I GO BACK WHEN I HEAR STATEMENTS LIKE THAT, I GO BACK TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF RENTAL PROPERTY IN THE COMMUNITY? OH BOY.

80%.

DID WE GET ANY COOPERATION FROM LANDLORDS OR IS IT ALL FROM HOMEOWNERSHIP PEOPLE? UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, BOTH WERE WORKING, UM, TWISTING A LITTLE ARMS OR SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS.

I MEAN, SOME OF THE, UH, HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE RENTERS, UH, TESTED NUMBER ONE PROBLEM.

UH, THEY SAY THAT NO, THE ABSENTEE OWNERS AFTER THEY, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A POPULATION THAT, UH, MIGHT NOT CAN FILL OUT A CREDIT APPLICATION, UM, A LANDLORD WILL ALLOW THEM TO COME IN, UH, TAKE THEIR RENT MONEY.

AND BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE BOX IN AND CAN'T GO ANYWHERE, THEN THEY DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO FIX ANYTHING.

UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SITUATION WHERE, UH, I HAVE COMPLAINTS, BUT THE TENANT IS AFRAID FOR ME TO BRING THEIR COMPLAINT BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID THEY'RE GOING TO WIND UP IN THE STREET.

UM, SO THERE'S A WHOLE SEPARATE, I'M WORKING NOW WITH, UM, THE NEW POLICE CHIEF, UH, WITH TRYING TO SOLVE THE HOMELESS SITUATION AND TO CREATE MORE BEDS AND SPACE.

UH, BASICALLY WHAT WE NEED IS LIKE THE HOUSE THAT YOU'RE MOVING NOW.

UM, WE NEED A PLACE THAT WE CAN TAKE PEOPLE OUT OF PLACES THAT ARE UNSAFE AND THEN FORCE THE LANDLORD TO FIX IT BEFORE THEY CAN RENT IT AGAIN.

UM, BUT FOR ME TO JUST DO WHAT I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO DO, UH, WOULD CREATE SOME UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATIONS FOR SOME OF THE TENANTS.

UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE NOW WITH THAT TO THE RENTAL REGISTRATION OR PROGRAM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHILE WE, WE, WHAT WE PASSED WAS THE INSPECTION INSPECTION.

OKAY.

AND REGISTRATION PROGRAM REQUIRES A LOT MORE DATA COLLECTION REALLY THAT, UM, DR.

HOLMES, YOU MIGHT CAN HAVE.

SO THE MAYOR AND I LAST FRIDAY DROVE THROUGH DUFFY UP CAUSE THIS HOUSE SAYS, UM, GOTTEN UNDER HIS SKIN SEVEN, 10, THAT IT WAS BURNT AND SITTING THERE IT'S A DANGER TO OUR CITIZENS AND YOU KNOW, IT VERY THERE.

AND SO

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HE DROVE ME AROUND AND WE IDENTIFIED AT LEAST A HALF A DOZEN HOMES.

ONE, THE, THE METAL ON THE ROOF WAS CURLED UP AND A GOOD WIND OR A GOOD STORM THAT MIDDLE COULD COME DOWN AND REALLY HURT SOMEBODY.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF THOSE.

WE THINK THOSE ARE EMINENT THREATS THAT SHOULD BE HANDLED IMMEDIATELY AND NOT GO THROUGH THE MIRI HAT OF TRYING TO FIND WHO OWNS IT AND WHAT OWNS IT.

WE SAW OTHERS WITH TREES COMING OUT OF THEM.

AND JUST OTHER THINGS THAT, AND YOU HAVE THAT HOUSE ON THAT GRAY HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF FIRST AND CEDAR HAD A FIRE AND ROOFS OFF OF IT.

YEAH.

SO THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO HE HAS GREAT CONCERNS AND HE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY REALLY AGGRAVATE ME LEGAL AND, UM, OTHERS, BECAUSE HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THESE ARE STILL STANDING BECAUSE THEY'RE A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S A PROCESS, BUT IT'S OBVIOUS THAT PEOPLE CAN'T LIVE IN THESE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NO VALUE TO ANYBODY AND IT WOULD BE SAFER AND BETTER EVEN FOR THE HOMEOWNERS TO HAVE GREEN GRASS, BUT IT WOULD BE WORTH MORE THAN TO HAVE WHAT'S.

THEY ARE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET ON THAT, BUT HE IS, HE'S ON, I'M GONNA TELL YOU RIGHT NOW HE'S ON FIRE BECAUSE HE DRUGGED ME OFF THROUGH ABRAHAM WHINING, ALL OF THIS OUT TO ME BECAUSE HE WANTS SOMETHING DONE.

SO I'M GLAD WE'VE TAKEN THIS STEP.

I CAN'T WAIT TO CALL HIM AND LET HIM KNOW THAT IN THE PROCESS.

BUT, UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, ALL THE MAIN BINGO, I THINK TOO, IS THE PROCESS OF MINIMUM HOUSING IS A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY DON'T WIND UP WITH ANY LIABILITY, BUT IT'S, NOBODY'S LIVING THERE.

IT'S OBVIOUS THERE'S TREES GOING THROUGH IT.

THE ROOF IS OFF.

NO ONE'S LIVING THERE.

WHAT IS, IS, IS THE PROCESS STILL THE SAME? YES.

I WILL SAY THIS, THAT IN THE UNITED STATES, WE HAVE GREAT REVERENCE FOR FIVE AND PREVENTS THE GOVERNMENT IMPRINTED UPON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF AN INDIVIDUAL WITHOUT DUE PROCESS.

AND THE MINIMUM HOUSING PROCESS THAT PAUL WAS JUST REFERENCING IS THE DUE PROCESS SYSTEM THAT THE CITY HAS IN PLACE TO PROTECT THOSE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE LAND ON IT.

SO IT MAY BE, IT MAY FEEL COMFORT SOME GENERALLY, UM, IT WAS MR. DAVIDSON'S S ESTIMATION IS FROM THE TIME WE FILED THE COMPLAINT TO THE TIME THE VOTE, IT CAN GO DOWN.

IT'S ABOUT 60 DAYS, YOU KNOW, IF WE GO WARP SPEED.

UM, I KNOW THAT MR. HOLMES, DR.

HOLMES IS WORKING DILIGENTLY.

THE REST OF JEFF'S STAFF.

UM, PATRICK EZELL, UM, HAS CIRCULATED A LIST OF OVER 180 CASES.

UM, A GOOD MAJORITY OF THEM ARE IN THE DEAF COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE ATTACKING THOSE VIGOROUSLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAFE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOT A MAGIC BULLET THAT WE CAN UTILIZE TO UNILATERALLY, RIGHT.

AND START BRINGING HOUSES DOWN WITH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF REAL.

I MEAN, IF THERE'S A FIRE REGION THROUGH THE CITY AND A PROPERTY IS DILAPIDATED, IT NEEDS TO COME DOWN TO SAY THE REST OF THE CITY FROM CATCHING ON FIRE, THEN THE PROCESS GETS MORE LENIENT, BUT ABSENT OF A CIRCUMSTANCE LIKE THAT, THE CASE LAW.

AND I THINK THE STATUTES DON'T ALLOW US TO JUST, YOU KNOW, ALLOW ME TO JUST START KNOCKING STUFF DOWN BECAUSE THE TREE IS THE EMINENT DANGER, NOT AN IMMINENT DANGER BY CASE LAW PARAMETERS IS THAT FIRE SITUATION THAT IF A FIRE BREAKS IN THROUGH THE CITY, FLOOD IS COMING.

AND, BUT FOR THIS STRUCTURE, IF THE STRUCTURE DOESN'T COME DOWN, THEN IT EXPOSES THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY TO SOME CALAMITY.

AND THOSE AREN'T THE FACTS THAT WE HAVE PRESENTLY.

YEP.

SO WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE CITY.

SO IT'S BEEN IN LITIGATION BEFORE.

YES, I WAS WORKING.

THEY WERE PULLING.

SO NO, BUT THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR ALL YOUR WORK CONTINUES.

IF WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR HOUSING, MEANING YEAH.

THE, WHEN YOU'RE BORED, YOU LISTENED TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN MEETINGS WE HAD.

YEAH, I DO.

BECAUSE AT THEIR LAST MEETING, THEY, THEY TALK NOT THIS ONE LAST NIGHT, THE NIGHT BEFORE THEY HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PROPERTY AND SO FORTH.

SO I HAVE GONE THROUGH THE AREAS THAT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE HAS IDENTIFIED AS OUR FOCUS AREAS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES.

AND I HAVE CREATED A LIST OF KEY PROPERTIES IN EACH ONE OF THOSE THREE AREAS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED, UH, THAT CAN BE DISTRIBUTED

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OR LOOKED AT ONE, WHENEVER PROPERTY COMES UP, IF THEY'RE ON THIS LIST, THEY DON'T GO FOR SALE THAT WE WANT THEM.

AND THE, THE LIST ARE BASICALLY THREE TO THREE LISTS.

ONE IS RE UH, KEY REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OF IS, THERE WAS A WONDER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE OWN A LOT OF PROPERTY OUT AND ABOUT IT DOESN'T FEEL THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.

WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY HAMSTRUNG AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE IT.

SO THIS IS, THESE ARE THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PROPERTIES THAT WE CURRENTLY OWN THAT WE HOLD SACRED.

OKAY.

AND THEN THERE'S A LIST OF KEY REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PROPERTIES THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY DIRECTLY.

OKAY.

WE WANT ALL THESE PROPERTIES.

OKAY.

AND THEN THERE'S A LIST OF KEY REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PROPERTIES THAT ARE JOINTLY OWNED BETWEEN NEWBURN AND CRAVEN COUNTY THAT FALL WITHIN OUR FOCUS AREAS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET.

SO CAN THAT LIST, CAN YOU OFFICIALLY, AS OF TONIGHT, MAKE A MOTION TO SUBMIT THAT LIST TO THE BOARD OF OWNERS SO WE CAN START THE LIST.

OKAY.

WELL, UM, I JUST, UM, BECAUSE WE CAN START WORKING CAUSE WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY.

I'VE ALREADY, I'VE TALKED WITH JACK AND, UM, THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US AS LONG AS WE SAY, THIS IS OUR PLAN AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND CONVEYING THOSE, THEIR INTEREST IN THAT PROPERTY TO US.

AND THEN, UM, UM, IT'S LIKE THE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON EIGHTH STREET AND WEST EIGHTH STREET AND THE NEXT HOUSE UP IT'S UP BELT.

IT IS KEY TO HAVING FULL DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA.

WHAT'S THE ADDRESS ON THAT? AGAINST 7 0 1, 7 0 8.

AND ACTUALLY ALL THESE PARCELS I'M HERE ARE IN HOUSING PROCESS AND THERE ISN'T THERE ONE OVER THERE.

THERE'S ANOTHER JOINT NON-PROFIT.

AND OVER HERE, THIS WHOLE BLOCK IS ALMOST, YEAH, WE'VE TAKEN IT.

MOST OF THAT BLOCK THERE AND CREATING THESE LISTS, THE HOUSING AND THE REASON I'M BRINGING UP UNDER HOUSING IS THE HOUSING GROUP MET AND, AND IDENTIFIED THE AREAS THAT ARE OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN, THAT WE CAN FUNCTION FROM THIS LIST THAT WE DID IT FROM A MAP.

OKAY.

CAUSE WE HAVE THE LISTS THAT ARE CITY OWNED AND YEAH, BUT WE DON'T WANT ALL THE CITY ON THIS LIST.

THIS IS A SHORTER LIST, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I WANT TO CHECK THEM OFF.

MY PURPOSE LAST, JUST IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING HELPFUL, IT MAY BE CONDUCTED IN A DIALOGUE WITH THE COUNTY, UM, FOR THE HOUSING WORK GROUP OR THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE TO GIVE SOME TYPE OF, UH, TO FORECAST THE VISION FOR THE UTILIZATION OF THESE RESPECTIVE LOTS, ESPECIALLY THE COUNTY CITY.

ONLINE'S NOT NECESSARILY A DESIGN RENDERING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT TO GIVE THEM SOME IDEA ABOUT HOW THESE LOTS CAN BE AGGREGATED.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU AND THE HOUSING COMMITTEE DO? I JUST TO KNOW HOW IT MAKES THAT MORE FORMAL A OF WORK, REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

AND I JUST WANT TO WORK WITH STAFF AND SEE HOW WE GO DO THAT, BUT WE WILL GET IT BACK TO YOU DON'T GET PERMISSION SO THAT HE COULD BE PART OF THE RECORD AND THEN EVERYBODY CAN HAVE THE SECOND AS THE SECOND HALF PARCELS ON THE SECOND AVENUE PARCEL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE OUR HEALTH AND WELLNESS, UM, GROUP AND, UH, JOE IS GOING TO GIVE US SO QUICK.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I HAD TO BE FOCUSING ON THE NEWS TODAY.

SUCCINCT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT MY FORTE, I'M NOT VERY SUCCINCT, BUT, UM, SO I JUST, I, THIS IS WHY OUR REPORT AND JOHN AND I HAD DISCUSSED IT.

SO I THINK LAST TIME THERE WAS SOME LACK OF CLARITY ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONTINUED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WITH COMMUNITY RELATIONS DAY AND IT GOT TO CALM.

SO I WENT AND I JUST TOOK, UM, YOU KNOW I USE, UM, TO GO BACK TO IS THE DRAFT HEALTH AND WELLNESS, UM, CMI DOCUMENT, WHAT THE VISION FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS THEN.

SO PROVIDING RESOURCES FROM OUR RESIDENTS, WHICH YOU HAVE CONSISTENT WELLBEING OF THEIR MIND BY IN SPIRIT, THERE WAS A MATRIX THAT WAS DEVELOPED BASED

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ON THE QUESTIONS, UM, DURING THAT TIME.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PULL THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE, UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE CHARGED TO DO, AND SPECIFICALLY THE LAST ONE WAS AN INTENTIONAL STRATEGY FOR CONTINUOUS ENGAGEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY WITH RESOURCE FAIRS, SPEAKING, ENGAGEMENT, STORY, OR COMMUNITY EVENTS, PARTNERSHIPS WITH EXISTING EVENTS.

SO I THINK WE'RE ALIGNED, UM, THAT VISION.

AND OF COURSE OUR GOAL FIVE IS TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

UM, SO THIS IS COMMUNITY RELATIONS DAY.

I TRIED TO BREAK IT DOWN, UM, FOR BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON THE ACTUAL DAY IS AN INAUGURAL KICKOFF EVENT OF OUR CREATING SPACE SERIES.

SO WE WILL, UM, IT WILL BE PROCLAIMED TO BE A ANNUAL, UM, DAY.

AND, UM, IT'D BE THE THIRD SATURDAY, NOVEMBER.

AND THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO CELEBRATE AND AFFIRM AFRICAN-AMERICAN LEADERSHIP AND CULTURE WHILE ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

UM, IT'S ALSO HONORING GRASSROOTS LEADERSHIP FROM WITHIN THE GREATER DUFFY FIELD COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROCLAMATION.

UM, THIS YEAR'S HONOREE IS MS. BARBARA LEE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS A NORMAL GIRL EVENT FOR OUR CREATING SPACE SERIES.

WE KIND OF DEVELOP THAT AS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS A BRAINSTORM, UM, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT SPACE ALL THE TIME SPACE AT THE TABLE FOR COMMUNITY VOICES AND THIS, UM, EVENT WILL ALSO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY AND BUILD TRUST WHILE AGAIN, ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS BY, YOU KNOW, ENGAGING DOING OUR HEALTH ASSESSMENT.

THAT'S A BIG PIECE OF THIS.

UM, NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY HAS BEEN PARTNERING WITH US, WE'LL BE DOWN.

UM, THEY'RE ALSO HELPING US TO CURATE THIS EVENT.

UM, UH, SO THESE ARE THE, IF WHAT IF WE CAN JUST GO JEFF TO ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO PROCESS.

YES.

IS THERE ANY, UH, YOUR LEADERS YOU'RE RECOGNIZING LEADERS FROM JUST THE DUFFY FIELD RATHER THAN WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE GREATER, THE GREATER DUFFY FIELD COMMUNITY? YEAH, BUT IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

OKAY.

UM, I SURE CAN WE LET HER FINISH? I THINK.

OKAY.

UM, SO THE PURPOSE THAT WE WENT THROUGH THAT, SO IF YOU CAN JUST, UM, JEFF GO TO JUST THAT, UM, THE ONE AERIAL VIEW OF LAWSONS CREEK IT'LL BE ON LAWSONS CREEK PARK.

SO THIS IS WHAT THE PARK WILL LOOK LIKE ON NOVEMBER 20TH.

SO THERE'S A STAGE, UM, ENTRANCE IN THE STAGE, WE'LL HAVE THE CEREMONY, BUT WE'LL ALSO BE MUSIC THERE THAT DAY.

UM, IN THE MIDDLE, THERE'S A SIT, UM, SIT BACK AND LEARN, AND THAT WILL BE, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY.

THIS WILL BE TWO, TWO SIGNALS OF THIS TWO SESSIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GATHER IT WILL BE FACILITATED BY PASTOR HAZEL ROYAL, WHO IS, UM, A PASTOR IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL-KNOWN.

SO AGAIN, ASKING ABOUT, UM, COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS, WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT THEY DESIRE, UM, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE, WHAT WAS THIS TO THEM? UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT SELF CARE IS THE BACK AREA, WHICH IS ALL THE SUPPORT VILLAGE WILL BE ALL THE, UH, OUR PARTNERS AND RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT DAY.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE HOSPITAL.

UM, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, CARTS WILL BE THERE.

NCC WILL BE THERE, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY WILL BE THERE.

UM, AND THERE'S MULTIPLE PARTNERS LIKE THE SUN JOURNALS, MEDIA PARTNER, UM, BUT FOR RESOURCES, CARTS WILL BE THERE.

UM, AND I FORGET THE OTHER ONE.

UM, YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW ALL THOSE IN THE DOCUMENT.

AND THEN THAT IS CALLED WE, THE PEOPLE.

SO THAT IS ACTUALLY LIKE A VERY INNOVATIVE CALLED THE FLOW PROJECT WHERE PEOPLE CAN KIND OF, THOSE ARE DOORS, UM, THERE'LL BE BUILT AND PEOPLE WILL GO IN.

AND AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UH, BEING SURVEYED, BUT, UM, NOT BEING ABLE, BUT NOT IN A VERY INTENTIONAL WAY WHERE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY BE INTERACTING WHERE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BE ASKING YOU QUESTIONS, BUT YOU CAN WRITE YOUR ANSWERS DOWN.

AND WE'RE HOPING TO, YOU KNOW, GET INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT THEIR, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR NEEDS AND DESIRES FOR HELPING THEM ON THIS.

WHAT THEY SEE IS NECESSARY.

UM, IN A NON-INTRUSIVE WAY, WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE, WE TAKE THE PICTURES OF THAT.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT.

UM, BUT BACK END IS WHERE THE KID'S CORNER WILL BE.

SO PARKS AND REC OR ANOTHER PARTNER, THEY'VE REALLY BEEN REALLY VERY HELPFUL.

UM, AND, UM, IN GUIDING, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES AND ALLOWING US TO BE THERE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE IN THE BACK, THEY'LL HAVE OUR FIRE TRUCK.

UM, THE POLICE WILL BE THERE WITH THEIR CHEST PROGRAM, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO BE THERE.

UM, WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM ON MONDAY JUST TO KIND OF SHORE UP ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY ISSUES AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SAFE.

AND THEN THE OTHER AREA IS CALLED FELLOWSHIP HALL.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HAVE THREE TRUCKS.

WE HAVE THREE OR TWO FOOD TRUCKS, AND THEN, UM, WANT SOME, ONE PERSON SERVING TWO WITH THE TENT.

SO IF I'M THE AREA, UM, SO THAT'S ANY QUESTIONS

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ABOUT THAT.

IT'S FROM TWO TO FOUR, UM, TWO TO FOUR 30, AND THEN AT FIVE O'CLOCK, THERE'S ACTUALLY A MOVIE WHICH WE'RE HOPING AS HE HAD NO DRAMA, WE HAVEN'T SHOWN THAT, BUT THERE'LL BE A MOVIE THERE AT FIVE.

WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A NICE WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, TO UTILIZE THE STAGE WHILE WE HAVE IT.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS, ARE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AND FINDING OUT WHAT THEY NEED.

SO PROVIDING AND GETTING FOR THIS KIND OF GIVE AND TAKE.

AND THEN I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THE FLYER.

SO I KNOW THIS WAS THE REESE'S QUESTION THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A CONCERN THE LAST TIME THAT WAS SO WHERE DOES REDEVELOPMENT FIT IN? SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT REALLY, UM, BRANDING, UM, AN ORGANIZATION AS THE LEADERSHIP FOR THIS.

IT MIGHT FORCE, YOU KNOW, I WAS HELPING WITH THE COORDINATION AS WELL, AS WELL AS WITH, UM, ANTOINETTE BOSKY FROM APPETITE, UM, DAVID REVITALIZATION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SIMILAR, UM, HEALTH AND WELLNESS GOALS AND ALSO THIS TO GO BACK FOR SOME OF THE, UM, THE IMPLANT FOR, UM, THIS EVENT, WE HAVE A BLOCK CAPTAINS PROGRAM WHO SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH AND THAT I'VE BEEN ATTENDING THOSE SESSIONS.

SO THEY'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS TOO, AND KIND OF HELPING US, UM, YOU KNOW, RAISE AWARENESS, UM, VOLUNTEERING.

UM, AND SO THAT PIECE ON THE BOTTOM, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO PERHAPS SEE, BUT, UM, IT'S HANDS AND INSIDE EVERY HAND IS A, AN IMAGE THAT REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITIES.

WE HAVE A BEAR FOR THE CITY.

WE HAVE, UM, PRAYER HANDS FOR, UM, FAITH, UM, COMMUNITIES.

UM, BUSINESS IS A HOUSE.

UM, THERE IS A HEART, UM, THERE'S A SUPPOSED FOR SCHOOLS, BIG SCREAMING COUNTY SCHOOLS, UM, HAS BEEN A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE COMING THAT DAY, YET IT HASN'T BEEN CONFIRMED.

AND THEN THERE'S A LIGHT BULB IN THE MIDDLE FOR JUST THE IDEAS, LIKE THE COLLABORATIVE IDEAS AT THIS, UM, PROJECT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

UM, UM, OF COURSE THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF KIDS' ACTIVITIES.

THEY'RE ALL LISTED AGAIN IN THE HANDOUT, SO RIGHT.

UM, I GOING TO TAKE EVERYBODY ON THE CONDITION THAT, THAT, SO WOULD YOU TOMORROW YOU SIT NEXT TO EVERY SENATE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE CONFIRMED PARTNERS.

WE HAVE ONE TOSA, CAROLINE HEALTHCARE IS, UM, THIS CONFIRMED.

I MEAN, IT'S, I'M SORRY, SPONSORS, UM, FOR SPONSORSHIP.

AND WE HAVE, UM, SENT A SPONSORSHIP FORM TO FIRST FLIGHT.

WE ALSO SENT IT TO, UM, TO THE HOSPITAL FOUNDATION, TO THE HOSPITAL ITSELF.

AND, UM, SO WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR DISCOVERY WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING THIS AND WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH HAS BEEN GREAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK, OH, IF I SHARE IT, THEN HE ASKED THIS QUESTION AND THEN GO HERE.

SO NONE OF, NONE OF YOUR APARTMENTS HAVE ASKED YOU POSTED IT WHO'S WHO'S THE HOST, OR THEY JUST ASSUME BECAUSE YOU WERE WITH THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS WORKING GROUP, THAT IS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, BUT NONE OF THEM HAVE ASKED YOU WHO'S HOSTING IT OR THEY JUST ASSUME IT THAT IT'S THIS BODY.

WELL, I MEAN, THE THING IS THERE REALLY, ISN'T REALLY A HOST.

WE'VE BEEN ORGANIZING THAT.

SO THERE'S NOT REALLY, AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE HAD THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IMAGE TO INCORPORATE IT'S REALLY TO BE REALLY FOCUSED.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON INSIDE.

YOU KNOW, WHOSE NAME IS ON IT NECESSARILY? NO, I'M SAYING THOUGH, NONE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WHERE YOU SEEK YOUR PARTNERSHIP, I HAVE ASKED YOU WHO IS THE HOST, WHO'S THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY AND SOMEBODY OUT THERE, AGAIN, SOMEBODY OUT THERE TO GET INJURED WHO'S OH, IT'S UP HABITAT? HAS THE INSURANCE ACTUALLY THE EVENT INSURANCE OR WHATEVER THAT INSURANCE THAT YOU NEED.

YES.

SO THEN THEY'RE IN THE HOST.

IF SOMEBODY IS WRITING AN ATTACK, OH YEAH.

THIS ONE IS GOING TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD HABITAT.

SO HABITAT HABITAT IS DOING THE SPONSORSHIP, BUT THERE IS NO, LIKE THERE'S NO, UM, YOU KNOW, FLIERS WITH OUR NAME AND THEIR NAME.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ME, I DON'T FIND, I'M CONFUSED BY THE QUESTION THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEING, THEY'RE THE FISCAL AGENT.

THEY HAVE A NONPROFIT.

OKAY.

YES, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

OKAY.

SO ALL THE FUNDS THEY RECEIVE ANYTHING OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THEY SPEND WILL BE DONATION TO HABITAT.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THEM.

I MEAN, WE'LL USE IT IN ALL.

YES.

I MEAN, W WE'RE LOOKING TO USE THE FUNDS AND WE WERE CREATING A BUDGET RIGHT NOW, JUST WE'RE WORKING BACKWARDS.

UM, THE ONE THING WE DID PROVIDE WAS THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FEE FOR, UM, NORTH CAROLINA, CENTRAL UNIVERSITY CONFIGURATION.

SO THAT WAS INCLUDED.

UM, BUT THEN THERE'S GOING TO OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MARKETING, THERE'S PRINTING.

UM, WE WANTED TO GET A COUPLE OF THE OTHER WAYS

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IS A A HUNDRED DOLLARS GIFT CARD.

CAUSE WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE OUR HEALTH ASSESSMENT.

IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, TO GET THOSE DONE.

I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S REALLY WHY, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR CHARGE WAS, UM, FOR THEIR BEGINNING WAS TO HAVE EVENTS.

AND, UM, AND SINCE WE WORKED BACKWARDS, YOU KNOW, WE'D GOT THE ASSESSMENT FIRST, UM, BUT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY WAY TO UTILIZE IT.

SO WE'RE CREATING THIS EVENT AND WE WILL CONTINUE BECAUSE THEY WERE LOOKING FOR CONTINUOUS ENGAGEMENT.

AND I THINK THAT CREATING SPACE SERIES IS WHAT GIVES IT SOME OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UM, HAVE IN, IN DOING THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO.

DO YOU MAKE COMMENTS? OKAY.

UM, GO AHEAD HERE.

CAUSE HE REALLY FIRST QUESTION THAT I JUST TOLD HER THIS CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIMITING FACTOR OF THE LEADERSHIP COMING GREATER DUFFY FIELD.

DOES THAT MEAN, WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THAT DIVIDING LINE, THAT BROAD STREET CREATES AT THIS, WOULD THAT INCLUDE, WHEN YOU SAY SO GREATER DETAIL, SO THIS MECHANICSVILLE AND LARCS STYLE, AND I LOVE THE LITTLE COMMUNITIES AND THAT'S WHAT THEY CONSIDER GREATER DUCTING FIELD, BROAD STREET, BROAD STREET WAS THE DIVIDING LINE.

SO IF, ONCE YOU CROSS BROAD STREET AND YOU'RE OUT OF THE GREATER DUFFY FIELD, DEFINITELY FEEL THERE.

SO THE WALT BELLAMY IS THAT THEY CALLED THEM ALL THE YEAH.

SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT? BECAUSE THAT WASN'T THE INTENTION.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THAT HERE TOO.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT GETS KIND OF, UM, YEAH.

AND YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A SQUIRREL AND WE NEED TO REMEMBER IT BECAUSE WE DID IT GET A COMMISSION AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO US SHOWING IT'S A CONSTANT COMPLAINT ABOUT IT BECAUSE BOTH SIDES ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE OTHERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO BE THE ONE PUSHING THAT, YOU KNOW, PUSHING THAT THAT OUT.

AND SO WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HARD BECAUSE PEOPLE, PEOPLE TEND TO SEE THAT PEOPLE JUST THINK IT BLANKETS, RIGHT.

I EVER DAY, BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO WRAP THEIR HEAD AROUND, BUT IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT THE SAME, UM, UH, THING, LIKE I SAID, IT'S PART OF THE COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE I'M GETTING IT.

WE DO THAT.

SO, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR, SO WHAT WOULD BE THE SUGGESTION FOR THAT THEN? DID YOU, DID YOU DO APPLICATIONS OR Y'ALL JUST SHOWS WHO Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMUNITY JUST CHOSE WHO THEY WANTED TO CELEBRATE.

IT'LL BE A DIFFERENT PERSON EVERY YEAR.

SO THAT'S EVEN THE PART OF HAVING THE PROCLAMATION IS TO SUSTAINABILITY AS WELL.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SUSTAINABILITY, UM, YOU KNOW, OF EVENTS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW WE ENGAGE.

UM, AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THEY ASKED FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY INTENTIONAL STRATEGY FOR CONTINUOUS ENGAGEMENT.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PROCLAMATION, IS THERE SABRINA, THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION.

SO WHAT DO YOU, DO YOU SUGGEST ANYTHING, BUT YOUR PROCLAMATION, WE VOTED ON THAT LIST.

IT WAS OKAY.

THAT'S IT WAS, IT WAS DONE DEAL.

AND THAT WAS FROM THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS GROUP OR THE REBUILDING COMMISSION.

WE DID THAT ON BEHALF OF THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND MONETARY MIGHT BE HELPFUL FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AS A PUBLIC BODY.

YES.

AND ANY ACTIONS TAKEN ANY AFFIRM, ANY ACTION TAKEN BY THE BODY SHOULD BE VOTED ON BY THE BODY.

SO EVEN AS WE HAVE THESE WORKING GROUPS WHO ARE DOING GREAT WORK, BRAINSTORMING, BUILDING CONNECTIONS, BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS, UM, FROM A PURELY PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, THE DECISION, THE ACTION STEPS SHOULD BE DECIDED BY, BY THE WHOLE.

OKAY, WELL, HERE'S WHAT I'M GOING TO, AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE BRING THIS UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHILE I HAVE SOMETIMES A CONCERNED ABOUT IS FOR EXAMPLE, I, UM, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS TODAY.

I MEAN, I ASKED FOR THIS TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA TWICE.

UM, YOU KNOW, LAST TIME IT WAS DISCUSSION AND THEN GIVE IT TO, AND JUST NOTHING HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, I WANTED, UM, NCC TO PRESENT IT JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE PRESENTS THINGS, BUT I DIDN'T GET ANY FEEDBACK.

SO I NEED TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, LIKE HOW DOES THIS WORK IF I EMAILED? AND I ASKED FOR THAT AND I DON'T GET A RESPONSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ THAT.

YOU KNOW? SO DO WE HAVE A PROCEDURE, UM, FOR AGENDA SUBMISSIONS, IF THERE'S A DEADLINE TO SUBMIT CONTENT, TO BE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA? WELL, HE'S COMES TO ME.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO COME TO ME AND THEN TO, UH, UH, JET, WELL, WE ALL GO FOR A CC IN IT, BUT USUALLY THEY CALL US AND SPEAK WITH ME FIRST, IF IT'S SOMETHING I'LL SAY OUT OF

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THE ORDINARY AND SHE DID SUBMIT IT.

AND I THOUGHT SHE HAD BEEN ANSWERED, UH, BACK.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I ASKED HER TODAY WAS A YOUNG LADY, WAS THE YOUNG LADY, UM, UH, COMING.

BUT THAT'S THE PROCEDURE THAT WE HAVE HAD.

HE SAID IT, HE COMES BEFORE THIS MORE BEFORE WE GO AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE IN A, WHERE ELSE, COMMISSIONER SHOW THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING AND HEARING CORRECTLY.

IS IT YOUR HOPE OR INTENTION THAT AFTER THIS EVENT, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO REPORT AND SPEAK, TO DIGEST, UM, FOR THE COMMISSION TO DIGEST THE EVENT AND TO CONSIDER PARTICIPATING IN NEXT YEAR'S EVENT.

REPEAT THAT AGAIN? I'M SORRY TO DEBRIEF, RIGHT? THAT WAS A LOT OF WORDS, THIS YEAR'S EVENT AND TO CONSIDER MAKING A COMMITMENT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 2022.

WELL, I GUESS THAT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION IF THAT'S WHAT THAT, BUT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? OKAY.

I, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

CAN I ANSWER NEXT TIME? SURE.

OKAY.

I JUST, I GUESS WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT AT THE TIME BEFORE THAT, RIGHT, THE MEETING BEFORE THAT, WHEN WE HAD ESPECIALLY CALLED MEETING, I, YOU KNOW, I HAD SPOKEN TO, UM, STAFF AND MS. LEE ABOUT GETTING IT ON THE AGENDA.

SO I DON'T, I WANT TO HAVE THE PROCESSES TO ASK FOR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PUT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

WE CAN'T VOTE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU POINTED OUT.

I HAVE DISCUSSION ON IT.

YOU, LAST TIME WE MET SPECIFICALLY WITH SPECIAL MEETINGS AND YOU CAN ONLY TAKE ACTION BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF THE NORM.

RIGHT? YOU CAN ONLY TAKE ACTION IF IT'S ADVERTISED.

UM, SO REGULAR MEETINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

SO I GUESS WE JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL HEARING THE SAME INFORMATION, TRYING TO BE HELPFUL, THAT THERE'S A CLEAR PROCEDURE FOR HOW SOMEONE CAN GET ON THE AGENDA.

UM, AND IF THERE'S AN ACTION STEP TO BE TAKEN, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS INCLUDED.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO CLARIFY? YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, I THINK, UH, WE'RE GETTING FROM MY MIND WHERE WE CAN WITH THE FOREST, THE TREES, THE FOREST IS, IS GETTING AWAY WITH THE TREES.

WE HAD A HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMMITTEE, SUB COMMITTEE GOT APPROVED OF WORK GROUP, GOT APPROVED TO DO THE HEALTH SURVEY.

WE HAD NO WAY TO DO THAT.

WE WERE JUST FLOUNDERING ABOUT HOW THAT COULD BE CARRIED OUT THE PIG.

THERE ARE GROUPS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAD SIMILAR NEEDS THAT WE ATTACHED ON TO.

UM, UM, MARIA HAS TREMENDOUS ENERGY AND THEY USED HER TO HELP US GET OUR GOALS AND TO GET THEIR GOALS TO THE THING THAT WE STILL NEED TO DO AND ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO NEED TO DO IS, IS GET THE SURVEY COMPLETED AND FIND OUT WHAT THE HEALTH NEEDS ARE.

AND ALSO TO PLAN FOR THE MCCARTER HOUSE.

THAT IS THE BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED IS THE MCCOTTER HOUSE.

WE CAN'T DO THAT AS AN ISLAND HERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO USE THAT.

AND WE FELT LIKE THAT THE PROCESS THAT WE STARTED WITH A COMMUNITY WOULD BE USEFUL FOR US ON DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE STARTED THAT.

SO I THINK WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE WITH THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE SIMILAR INTERESTS.

SO WE CAN COMPLETE OUR GOALS.

AND FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE POINT OF VIEW, YOU CAN TELL US HOW TO DO THAT, BUT WE HAVE THE CONTACTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ACROSS THE MARIA, THEY ARE VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THE, THE COMMISSION AND WHAT OUR GOALS ARE.

SO WE JUST LIKE TO KEEP THAT GOING, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE ANY OF THE PROCEDURES FOR THE COMMISSION.

AND I KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

I MEAN, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, SO WE DON'T STEP IN IT.

SO I GUESS I'M ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS FOR IT ALREADY OMISSION RATHER THAN COMMISSION.

AND, AND, AND, BUT WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE CONTACTS SO WE CAN WORK INTO WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THE MCCOTTER HOUSE.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT ELSE I NEED TO SAY EXCEPT, UM, WE HAD, WE HAD GREAT INTENTIONS ABOUT, UH, COMPLETING OUR GOALS THAT WE WERE S WE FELT LIKE WE WERE SIGNED BY THE COMMISSION.

YEAH, I THINK, UM, IT, IT SEEMS YES.

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UM, IT, IT SEEMS MAYBE THAT THE, IT MAY BE THAT THE OLD STANDARD, THE APARTMENT PUT BEFORE THE HORSE, IF THEY WOULDN'T TO BE, I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE.

UM, AND SO WHEN IT SEEMS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY, THEN, YOU KNOW, IT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PROCESS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST MAY HAVE BEEN MISSING SOME, UM, SOME, SOME COME ON WITH THE SWEAT, YOU KNOW, THE THING ABOUT IT IS PERMISSION, REGARDLESS OF ANYTHING ELSE, WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

SO ACCORDING TO, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER SHOW AT JOE HAD SAID, COMMUNITY RELATIONS, THERE'S GOING TO BE ON THE 20TH.

SO I SAID, WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT, GOD GODSON, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT WITH ALL THE STABILITY THAT HORSE WITH BEFORE THE QUARTER, THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, WHATEVER IT IS.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, AND I ASKED YOU THIS TODAY, AND I ASKED YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT.

SO WITH ALL OF THAT, THE GOAL OF THE DISCUSSION AND EVERYTHING, WHAT ARE YOU SAID THAT YOU NEED FROM THE COMMISSION? WHAT IS THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO DO OR NOVEMBER BETWEEN, WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU ASKING THE COMMISSION? WHAT IS THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS ROOM ASKING, UH, THE COMMISSION, UM, AND SAY HELLO AND ENGAGE.

I MEAN, I'M, I'M, I'M PAST EVEN THE TENT.

I MEAN, I'M NOT REALLY ASKING FOR MUCH, BUT, YOU KNOW, ON THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DOING ENGAGEMENT AND YOU ARE A GOVERNMENT BODY, UM, IF YOU CAN SHOW UP, UM, IT WOULD BE NICE, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT SHOWS THAT YOU CARE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE ON A SATURDAY FROM TWO TO FOUR, UM, THAT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, A GOOD THING, WOULD IT BE IMPORTANT? SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU TALKED ABOUT ESTABLISHING THE COMMISSION AND THE WORK WE'RE DOING AS A WHOLE, AS A BODY, TO AT LEAST YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR OTHER PARTNERS THERE MAYBE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A BOARD OR SOMETHING UP THERE THAT SHOWS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE COMMISSION.

AND JUST WITH SOME GENERAL INFORMATION, NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING GENERAL INFORMATION THERE SO THAT PEOPLE WHO COME BACK AND WHO IS THE COMMISSION, WHAT DO WE DO? I MEAN, WE ARE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOW WE SHOULD BE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND THAT WE ARE HERE TO WORK.

AND I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THE COMMISSION FEELS ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE WHILE I SIT HERE AND I, YOU KNOW, I DISCUSSED THIS, I DISCUSSED IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL THAT THERE WAS A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING.

WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION DIDN'T COME UP, UM, ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

I MEAN, I ASKED TO HAVE CRYSTAL COME.

I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE, I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE SEVERAL WEEKS BEFORE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE ANYTHING WAS DONE WITH THE PROCLAMATION, I JUST FEEL SOMETIMES THERE'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION, NOT FROM OUR LACK OF TRYING.

UM, AND I'M JUST GOING TO BE VERY FRANK ABOUT THAT.

I REALLY DO.

SO I THINK THAT MOVING FORWARD, UM, IT WOULD BE JUST, IT WOULD MAKE US FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.

IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, WE'RE UP FOR IT.

I MEAN, I DON'T MIND EXPLAINING, I DON'T MIND SHARING, YOU KNOW, WHAT I BELIEVE SHOULD BE THE WHITE WAY THAT HEALTH AND WELLNESS IS GOING, BECAUSE I USE THAT CNI.

I USE OUR PLAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT IT, I READ IT AT THE MISSION.

UM, BUT I GUESS IT'S THE PROCEDURAL THING.

SO YOU, UM, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA THAT THE COMMISSION COMMS IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOING ON SATURDAY THE 20TH, YOU THINK IF NO BODIES SHOW UP, YOU SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE, YOU KNOW, A TAPE, A TABLE TENT OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SOMETHING UP THERE, JUST GENERAL INFORMATION.

I MEAN, THAT SHOULD BE, HOW DOES THE, HOW DOES THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN FEEL ABOUT IT? THE PROCLAMATION? WHAT WAS THE, WAS THERE ANY FEEDBACK? NO, CAUSE IT'S, IT'S UNDER OUR, IT'S UNDER OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT.

WE DEBATE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE ASKED TO DO A PROCLAMATION THAT COMES THROUGH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE MAYOR DECIDES THAT IT'S OKAY, HE'S GOOD WITH IT.

AND IT'S PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I MEAN, I CAN'T EVER REMEMBER ANYBODY SAYING, NO, DON'T DO THIS FRONT ONE PATIENT.

NO, THE THING IS TOO THAT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ALL PUTTING ASIDE, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN W FIELD.

AND I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD CELEBRATE THAT AND YOU SHOULD LOOK AT LEADERSHIP.

WE DO.

I MEAN, DO WE, DO YOU KNOW THAT LAST FRIDAY, THE MAYOR AND I WENT TO THE HOME OF MS. SAM SAYS SHORE, I PRESENTED A PROCLAMATION TO HER PROCLAIMING

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THAT THE SATURDAY OF MEMORIAL DAY FROM HERE FORWARD IS GOING TO BE JOHNNY SAMPSON, JUNIOR DEAD.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID THAT.

THE REQUEST CAME IN, THE MAYOR SAID, YES, AND WE DID THAT.

SO THERE ARE GOOD THINGS.

AND THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO CELEBRATE SOMEONE WHO IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS, DO WE KNOW EVERYTHING? NO, WE ARE MISSING A LOT, BUT THESE ARE SMALL STEPS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE, YOU'RE CONTINUING TO TAKE SMALL STEPS AND WE CANNOT CELEBRATE YOU JUST ENOUGH.

IF YOU CELEBRATE YOUR REDEVELOPMENT AREA, THAT'S WHAT WE CELEBRATE LIFE.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK WE NEED TO BE ENGAGED IN.

TIFFANY ASKED YOU AND THE WORK SHE'S DOING WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

I MEAN, SHE COULDN'T REALLY COMMIT TO THIS, BUT SHE WAS, SHE WAS FOR THE INITIAL CONVERSATION.

THIS WAS AN INTENTIONAL, MORE HEALTH DRIVEN, UM, EVENT.

OKAY.

I MEAN, SHE WASN'T, BRISTOL'S BACKGROUND WAS COMING FROM, CAUSE I'M CONFUSED.

IS CRYSTAL THE ONE THAT SUGGESTED THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS DAY AND AS A VEHICLE TO GET YOUR HYPOTHESIS? NO, THAT WAS FROM HABITAT NAVAL REVITALIZATION.

YEAH.

THE ROLE THAT CRYSTAL PLAYED IN IT, THAT WAS MY WELL, SHE WAS, SHE TOOK OUR IDEA OF THE CREATING SPACE.

I MEAN, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS WHAT WE SAT AROUND AND TALKED ABOUT AND BRAINSTORMED, UM, AND THEN TOOK THAT TO USE THAT KIND OF, AGAIN, AS SOMETHING THAT'S INTENTIONAL, THAT CAN BE, UM, SUSTAINABLE, RIGHT? YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING, YOU HAVE A THEME.

UM, AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU MOVE WITH THAT.

WE GOT FORMAL EVENTS, THIS IS A FORMAL EVENT AND YOU CAN HAVE INFORMAL EVENTS, UM, MOVING FORWARD THAT ARE SMALLER.

WE REALLY JUST REALLY WANT TO GET INFORMATION, ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY TO ULTIMATELY, UM, YOU KNOW, GET TO THE NEEDS OF WHAT THAT HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER WILL LOOK LIKE.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL, BUT I MEAN THE ENGAGEMENT PIECE IS, YOU KNOW, GONNA FUND.

SO IT'S I THINK, NO.

OKAY.

UM, I WAS TALKING TO TALK TO ME.

HE DIDN'T ADD A QUESTION.

OH, I HEAR YOU.

WHAT DID YOU SAY? I'LL PASS THE ROYAL WITH WHAT WAS THE ROLE? UM, IT IS CALLED, UM, SIT AT, SIT BACK AND LISTEN.

SO JILL JUST FACILITATE, UM, ALYSSA ELICITING SESSION, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID, UM, WAY BACK AT THE BEGINNING, THAT KIND OF CONCEPT, BUT IT'S SMALLER.

IT'S LIKE 20 PEOPLE, 20 CHAIRS, AND WE'LL DO TWO OF THOSE.

SO THIS WILL HAVE A STRUCTURED SCHEDULE.

UM, SO THERE'LL BE A CORN HOLE TOURNAMENT.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS THERE'LL BE, UM, I HAVEN'T EVEN, YOU WE'RE JUST DEVELOPING THAT AND WE'LL HAVE THE PROCLAMATION, UM, IN THE MIDDLE AT THREE O'CLOCK.

SO WE GET PEOPLE THERE AND WE CAN KEEP THEM THERE FOR AWHILE AND I GET THE ASSESSMENTS DONE AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY THE OTHER, THE RESOURCE PORTION WILL BE.

PEOPLE CAN JUST GO AND MEANDER AND DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

UH, ANY OTHER, I DID HAVE A QUESTION THAT THIS WHOLE THING IT HAS BEEN FOREVER SINCE WE'RE BEGINNING TO GET THE HEALTH ASSESSMENTS.

I THINK YOUR GOAL WAS 300 AND WE HAVE A MINUTE.

SO I THINK I LOOK BACK AT WHAT TONY HAD SAID THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY WISE THAT WE HAVE THAT DEBRIEFING AFTER THIS EVENT AND SEE WHAT IF THE EVENTS ARE, WHAT ARE GOING TO DRIVE, GETTING YOU TO YOUR BOAT.

I'LL CUT THE SENTENCE.

SO I REALLY DO THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO SCHEDULE THAT DEBRIEF ON THIS EVENT AND AGAINST THAT GOAL, WHICH IS THE ONLY REASON WE'RE DOING THIS.

IF YOU GET HELP, IS THAT WELL, IT'S REALLY NOT THE ONLY REASON.

SEE THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE CONFUSION.

I MEAN, THIS HAS GOTTA BE, YOU KNOW, THE ENGAGEMENT PIECE FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS IS A CONTINUOUS THING.

IT'S NOT FINITE, RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THESE EVENTS.

IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT.

UM, THAT'S PART OF IT, RIGHT.

BUT PART OF THE OTHER WORK IS, YOU KNOW, CREATING THE SPACE AND, UM, I GUESS WE WILL DO THEM IN EVERY EVENT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S THE PROCESS.

JOHN HELPED ME EXPLAIN THIS.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WE, MAYBE TO ME, WELL, WE HAD, WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE GOAL OF THE ASSESSMENT.

YOU KNOW, IF WE DID THAT, BEEN KNOWN AND GO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD'VE KNOCKED ON DOORS, BUT, UH, BUT THE, THE ASSESSMENTS LEADS TO WHAT USE THE MCCOTTER HOUSE IS GOING TO BE USED FOR.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE COMMISSION HERE CAN DETERMINE THAT ON ITS OWN.

I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY AND THIS ENGAGEMENT LEADS US TO MAKING CONTACTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

IF THEY WILL HELP US WHEN WE NEED SOME HELP TO DRAW A PLAN TOGETHER THAT WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE, WE KNOW WHO IN THE COMMUNITY, THE OFFICE OUT THERE, IT'S ALSO AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE.

I MEAN, YOU'RE EDUCATING PEOPLE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE RESOURCE FAIR.

THERE ARE, PEOPLE ARE ASKING THAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS, UM, I'M SORRY, J PART OF THIS HEALTH AND, UM, LONGEST INITIATIVE BACK FROM

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THE CNI TALKS ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY.

I THINK IT'S INCLUDED THERE.

THEY WANT RESOURCES.

THEY WANT RESOURCES CENTRALIZED.

THEY WANT, I MEAN, TO HAVE A COMEDIAN OR BASADUR, UM, A HEALTH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER LOOKS LIKE.

UM, AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, I HAD A LONG DISCUSSION WITH STEVE NICHOLS TODAY ABOUT A FINANCIAL MODEL FOR THE MACABRE HOUSE.

I MEAN, THAT'S A HELPFUL, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE IT'S FORMING PARTNERSHIPS.

IT'S NOT JUST THIS CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO DEBRIEF, BUT THIS IS FOR THE WORK OF WHAT HELPS THEM WANT IS, DOES, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S FINE.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

I, I, OF COURSE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT AND SEE WHAT WORKED AND WHAT DIDN'T.

UM, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO STOP THERE.

OKAY.

I HAVE, UH, I HAVE A FEELING AND I DON'T USE IT DEPENDING ON FEELINGS, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY, UM, IN MY, UH, CONTACT WITH THE COMMUNITY, LIKE ALL THE REST OF MOST NORTH CAROLINA ANS THEY'RE SUSPICIOUS OF GUNS AND HAVING YOU PUT A FRIENDLY FACE ON THE GREAT JOB THAT WE WANT TO DO.

AND THAT'S MY UNDERLYING WAY OF LOOKING AT IT IS THAT, THAT THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY IS A FRIEND OF PHASE FOUR.

THIS COMMISSION, ALL THEY KNOW ABOUT.

IF WE DON'T BEGIN TO DO SOME OF THIS IS WE, WE WE'D GO IN THERE AND TAKE OUT CARS WITH TEAR DOWN HOUSES.

WE BOUGHT PROPERTY, WE BUILT APARTMENTS.

I THINK THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION IS ON THAT AND WOULD NEED SOME YOU'RE WELCOME, UH, PURSUANT TO NORTH CAROLINA

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GENERAL STATUTES 1 4, 3 DASH 3, 1 8 DASH 11 8 5 TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION.

SO, UH, I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AS .

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND SO JUST LET ME KNOW FROM THERE ON, I WILL DECEMBER AGENDA, WE WILL HAVE, UM, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE THREE WORKING GROUPS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THERE AND WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO FROM HERE AND HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO REACHING SOME OF OUR GOALS, SOME OF THE GOALS THAT WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED, UM, ACHIEVED, AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO POLLING, UM, GOING FORWARD.

SO I'LL LET US BE PREPARED TO DO THAT.

I THINK EVERYBODY GOT A COPY LAST MONTH.

WE DID.

YES.

WE ALL HAVE.

AND THEN, UM, STAFF ALSO THE AREA, IF YOU WOULD SEND OUT, UH, COMMISSIONER CHOSE.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS? I MENTIONED IT AND I THINK I MIGHT'VE SENT IT OUT.

WE HAVE A, UM, PUBLIC MEETING FOR ME, NOT REGARDING STORMWATER ON SECOND PROJECT ON NOVEMBER 17TH, THAT'S BEEN AWARDED SEVEN DIRECT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, OBVIOUSLY THAT PROJECTS WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY AREA.

SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY OF THE COMMISSION THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME ON.

IT'S A CHANCE FOR OUR ENGINEERING FIRMS TO, UH, ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY.

UM, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT AND GET FEEDBACK FOR THE FUTURE PHASES.

UM, I WILL ALSO, UM, JUST LET YOU ALL KNOW, WE DID RECEIVE A GRANT THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, THE ENHANCEMENT GRANT PROGRAM.

SO WE ARE BEING AWARDED $134,000 FOR NEXT PHASES REALLY GETS US TO THE POINT OF BEING SHOVEL READY AND FULLY.

UM, OUR FEMA APPLICATION BUILDING RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE COMMUNITY PROGRAM WOULD BE FUNDED, WHICH WOULD BE THE, BASICALLY THE REST OF THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS FOR THAT PROJECT.

SO, UM, IT'S ALL VERY TIMELY.

AND OF COURSE HAVING GOOD PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS KEY TO THESE NEXT PHASES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I GOT, I GOT IT.

EIGHTH ELECTRONICALLY, SO I'VE ALREADY STARTED MY DISTRIBUTION, UH, AS FAR AS, RATHER CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY IN THAT.

SO THANKS SO MUCH FOR THAT AT THE END OF MY LEADS TO TAKE A FLYER STREETS.

UM, PLEASE.

UM, SO FOR THAT SPIRIT IN, IN THERE'S A SURVEY, SO IF PEOPLE CAN'T PHYSICALLY COME, WE DO HAVE A SURVEY AND YOU CAN GO DIRECTLY TO THAT AS WELL.

THERE'S A QR CODE ON IT.

SO IF PEOPLE AREN'T COMFORTABLE COMING, WE'D STILL LIKE TO GET THAT OUT.

SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE PUSHING IT OUT FOR YOUR DISSERTATION LIST.

UM, AND YOU CAN PUT IT ON WITH THE CHAMBER NON-PROFIT COUNSELOR.

THEY HEALER TO CAUSE

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A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, A LOT OF CLIENTS AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE GO THROUGH A LOT OF THE NONPROFITS, SO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, JUST THROUGH JERRY, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR ? IT IS 8 0 1.

I AM HUNGRY.

I DROVE IN FROM GREENSBORO.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, AND, UH, SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR ALL.

YOU DO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU AND ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO, AND CERTAINLY AGAINST YOU FOR YOU CONTINUE ON THE SACRIFICES, UM, FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND SEE YOUR NEW CONSULTANTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH IN MOTION TO A JURY, THE TRIP.