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[1 . Meeting opened by Mayor Dana E. Outlaw. Prayer Coordinated by Mayor Outlaw. Pledge of Allegiance.]
EVERYONE TO THE JANUARY 5TH MEETING OF THE NEWBORN BOARD OF ALDERMAN AT THIS TIME, WOULD YOU JOIN ME IN PRAYER? HEAVENLY FATHER? WE JUST ASK THAT YOU BE WITH US TONIGHT.WE HAVE SEVERAL VERY IMPORTANT ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THINGS THAT ARE PLEASING TO THE, AND IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITY, THAT WE ALL LOVE IN YOUR NAME.
WOULD YOU JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF LEGALS FLAG? GOTCHA.
THE FLAG STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
WELL, WHERE WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? OH, HERE, I'LL GET A WOMAN HERE.
SO JUST ASKED HER MAY YOUR OUTLET ORDER, MACKENZIE OBERMAN ITEM.
NOW, IS THAT A, UH, OR IS EVERYBODY HERE OR IT'S BUSY? HOW ABOUT ALL THE WOMAN HEARS HOW'S THAT GAMBLE YOU'LL TAKE CARE OF THE MINUTES.
I WANT HIM TO WAIT THAT MAY, OR IF A COUPLE OF NOTES BEFORE WE GET INTO THE AGENDA,
[9. Discussion of Extraterritorial Jurisdiction.]
UM, IN, IN LIEU OF THE FACT THAT I SEE SOME CITIZENS HERE THAT I KNEW ARE WANTING TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION OF THE ETJ.UM, I'D LIKE TO PULL THE BOARD, I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME WE SHOULD TABLE THAT ITEM UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, AS WE WANT TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION, ALDERMAN ODOM, IS THAT WHAT I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE? WE TABLED IT TO FEBRUARY 22ND MEETING.
I'VE ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION BACK FROM THE MAPS AND THINGS FROM STAFF.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO GET THAT TOGETHER SO MUCH.
THEN THE SECOND IS THERE DISCUSSION.
SO, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION ON FAIR TO MOTION, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED, SAME SIGN MOTION CARRIES MR. HUGHES
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MAYOR.I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE TONIGHT FOR THAT EXTENSIVE SEARCH.
WE HAVE HIRED A NEW DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW YOU CAN DO AS MR. .
HE IS FORMER DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE CITY OF BURLINGTON, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE AL COME IN.
HOWEVER, AS WE WERE DOING STORM PREPS, HE DID COME IN ON FRIDAY AND HE SAT WITH THE GUYS TO GET A FEEL OF HOW OUR OPERATIONS ARE.
SO OUR THANK YOU, SENIOR MANAGER, UH, MAYOR MEMBERS OF BOARDS.
SO HAPPY TO BE HERE, BLESSED TO BE YOUR NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
I ALSO HAVE MY BETTER HALF WITH ME, MY WIFE, CHARLOTTE, AND MY MOTHER-IN-LAW I EVER LEAVE HERE VISITING TOO.
AND AFTER THAT INTERESTING, UH, PRESENTATION HEARD ON THE, ON THE FUNDING, I CAN SEE THAT STORM AS A HIGH PRIORITY, AND WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, UM, APPRECIATE, UH, THE TEAM THAT WE'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO JOIN LED BY GEORGE AND I GOT INTRODUCED TO DANNY MEADOWS, THE LEGENDARY, AND I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF THE FOUNDATION THAT ALL THESE PROFESSIONALS HAVE LAID BEFORE.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CHALLENGE.
THANK YOU FOR, WELL, WELL, I WANT TO SAY MOPING ABOUT DANNY MEADOWS, HIS FAVORITE SAYING THE FIRST THING HE SAID TO ME, THE FIRST TIME I CAME TO, UH, THIS BOARD, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, MONEY CAN MAKE THE BAYER DANCE.
SO JUST REMEMBER THAT, THAT'S HOW WE GET, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? THAT'S HOW WE GET THINGS DONE.
AND I KNOW FOR ONE, I I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES WILL SAY THAT WE HEAVILY DEPEND ON PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS.
MANY TIMES YOU WILL HEAR US CALLING YOU ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WE WELCOME YOU AND HOPE YOU WILL BECOME OUR NEW BEST FRIEND.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY A HUGE THANKS TO GEORGE CHARLES AND HE A GREAT JOB DURING THE INTERIM PROCESS, GEORGE, WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR YOU BEFORE WE GET IT TO THE NEXT ITEM TO I'VE ASKED NOW I WAS WAITING FOR ALDERMAN HARRIS TO COME BACK IN, BUT WOULD YOU ALL MIND JUST TAKING A MINUTE TO STAY IN AND GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO OUR LEADERS AND OUR EMPLOYEES WHO GOT US THROUGH THE STORM THIS WEEKEND? I THINK THEY DESERVE EVERYTHING.
EVERYBODY FROM FIRE TO POLICE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS OR UTILITIES PEOPLE.
I SAW SO MANY WONDERFUL COMMENTS.
THEY WERE OUT THERE IN THE COLD AND THE RAIN AND THEY KEPT OUR CITIZENS SAFE AND IT WAS JUST, IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT DEED FOR THEM TO DO.
AND I JUST APPRECIATE THEM SO MUCH.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE WERE IN OUR WORK SESSION,
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BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE DURING OUR REGULAR SESSION THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT THEY DID.I DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT TO THE END OF THE MEETING WHEN EVERYBODY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT AS WELL.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO ONE OF OUR VERY YOUNG MS. ALICE WILSON WITH THE DEATH IN HER FAMILY.
SO THIS IS KEEP HER IN CAREERS.
MA'AM NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
MAYOR IS ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE TO OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
[Consent Agenda]
DIDN'T DO THE CONSENT AGENDA.I'M MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR THE MOTION, SAY AYE.
[5. Administer Oath of Office to Director of Finance.]
TO A POINT ON NEW DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.WE'D LIKE TO ASK KIM TO COME UP AND BRENDA, GET READY TO SWEAR HER.
I THINK SOME OF HER FAMILY IS UNDER THE WEATHER.
UM, KIMBERLY A FIRM DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT ALL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
KIMBERLY EIGHT STRONG DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THE ALBUM SUPPORT AND MAINTAIN THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF NORTH CAROLINA, NOT INCONSISTENT THERE WE HAD AND THE OUTPUT FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE AS DIRECTOR OF FINANCE SAID, DON'T MAKE GOD I WILL.
I KIMBERLY TO SOLEMNLY AND SINCERELY SQUARE, BUT I WILL BE FAITHFUL AND BIGGER TRULY JUST TO THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA AND TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS AND AUTHORITIES, WHICH ARE, OR MAYBE ESTABLISHED FOR THE GOVERNMENT THERE.
AND THEN I WILL ENDEAVOR TO SUPPORT, MAINTAIN AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF SAID, STATE NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY.
AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND AT THIS TIME, ARE YOU READY TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER? MAY I MAKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE A SHORT RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES, 10 MINUTES, PLEASE.
AND IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION STATE, UH, TO GET ON WITH THE REMAINDER OF THIS MEETING
[6. Presentation of Annual Comprehensive Financial Report and Audit for Fiscal Year Ending June 30, 2021 .]
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, PRESENTATION OF AUDIT MR. HUGHES.UM, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UM, MR. STEWART HILL AND HE'S A CPA WITH PERMIT COSTUME PRICE, SCOTT ADAMS, AND TIFFANY.
AND HE'S GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION ON THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT AND AUDIT.
FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL HAVING ME TONIGHT.
UM, WE APPRECIATE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DO YOUR JUNE 30TH, 2021 AUDIT, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE FULL AUDIT REPORT AND ALSO A PRESENTATION SUMMARY.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK OFF THE PRESENTATION, SOMEBODY FOR THIS, FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE TIME, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE TOO LONG AND DRAWN OUT TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THE WHOLE AUDIT REPORT.
OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU HAVE THOSE WITH YOU, THERE'S A PAGE NUMBER ONE AFTER THE TABLE OF CONTENTS AND ALL THAT LETTER, AND THAT'S A REQUIRED A CORRESPONDENCE TO GOVERNANCE THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO GIVE YOU.
I'M NOT GOING TO READ THAT, BUT I WILL GO OVER SOME, UM, SOME
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HOT, HOT POINTS OF IT, BASICALLY.UM, WE, UH, FIRST OF ALL, WE SAID, WE'VE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED YOUR, UM, THE FULL AUDIT REPORT TO THE AUDIENCE YESTERDAY, UH, 24, 2022, UM, YOUR, UM, ACCOUNTING PRACTICES OR PROPER, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MAJOR DIFFICULTIES IN THE AUDIT PROCEDURES.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MAJOR DISAGREEMENTS WITH THE MANAGEMENT AS I'M AWARE OF AND HAD NOT AWARE OF ANY, UH, SECOND OPINIONS FOR OTHER ACCOUNTING FIRMS THAT I'M AWARE OF.
THERE WERE, UH, TWO OR THREE FINDINGS HERE.
UM, AND THOSE ARE IN THE, IN THE CATEGORIES OF SOME NEG NEGATIVE FUND BALANCES, SOME RECONCILIATION REPORTS BEING NOT TIMELY REPORT ITSELF, NOT BEING TIMELY.
UM, THOSE THINGS, UM, THE LDC IS GOING TO WANT YOU TO SEND THEM A NEAT, UH, MAILING A LETTER WITHIN 60 DAYS OF TONIGHT FROM THE PRESENTATION.
UH, YOU HAVE 60 DAYS TO SEND A LETTER TO THE ADDRESS THAT, UH, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH ALL THAT WITH KIMBERLEY THEY'RE ALREADY ON TOP OF IT, THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED HAPPENED, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF TURNOVER IN STAFF IN LARGE PART, AS WELL AS THERE WERE A LOT OF THE RECONCILIATION OF SOME OF THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT HADN'T HAD BEEN DONE IN TIMELY, AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE BACKLOG WITH IT.
I'LL CONSIDER GETTING IT TO THIS POINT.
SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE, MAKE YOU AWARE OF ALL OF THAT.
SO THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT LETTER.
YOU CAN READ IT, READ IT AT YOUR CONVENIENCE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WHILE I'M DOING THIS, YOU CAN STOP ME ANYTIME YOU WANT.
I'LL TRY TO ANSWER IT IF I CAN.
AND IF I CAN, I'LL TELL YOU I CAN'T, BUT I'LL TRY TO FIND YOU AN ANSWER.
AND ALSO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER TONIGHT, UM, YOU CAN TALK WITH DR.
KIMBERLY AND SHE CAN GET UP AND HELP YOU WITH YOUR ANSWERS.
SO IF YOU GO TO PAGE FOUR ON THE PRESENTATION SUMMARY, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF DATA AND NUMBERS.
I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL THOSE NUMBERS EITHER, BUT THOSE CREATE THE LEAKS THAT CREATES THE CHARTS STARTING ON PAGE SIX, YOU GO TO PAGE SIX, YOU CAN SEE THAT CHART AT THE TOP IS AN ANALYSIS OF YOUR FUND BALANCE.
THAT'S THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE, AND THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR TREND.
SO YOU CAN JUST KIND OF SEE HOW, HOW YOU'RE GOING UP OR DOWN OR ALL OF THESE CHARTS FOR THE MOST PART, UH, ON A TOTAL FUND BALANCE, UH, IN 2021 IS ABOUT 25.7 MILLION IN THE RESTRICTED AND ASSIGNED PORTION OF THAT IN THE RED IS ABOUT 15.7 MILLION FUND BALANCE AVAILABLE, WHICH IS THE TOTAL FUND BALANCE LIST RESTRICTED FROM THE STATE STATUTE, UM, IS, IS IN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS AN AVAILABLE BALANCE AS A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.
AND THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS THE NEW ONE.
THE RED LINE REPRESENTS OTHER TOWNS OF SIMILAR POPULATION.
I THINK Y'ALL ARE IN THE 10 TO 50,000 RANGE PER POPULATION.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.
UH, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT YOUR, YOUR AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES IS 34.21% AT JUNE 30TH, 2021.
AND FOR THE STATE AVERAGE FOR THE TOWNS OF SIMILAR SIZE, YOU CAN SEE FOR 2020 IS 44.06.
THE ONLY REASON WE DON'T HAVE 2021 FOR THE OTHER COUNTIES, BECAUSE THEY DON'T ALL HAVE THEM, UM, SENDING IT PROCESS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA AVAILABLE FROM THE STATE ON PAGE SEVEN, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE UNASSIGNED UNBALANCED.
THE PERCENTAGE OF THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER REPORTS ONLY INSTEAD OF THAT BEING AVAILABLE.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AVAILABLE AND UNASSIGNED IS THAT, AS I SAID BEFORE, THE TOTAL FUND BALANCE LESS, UH, RESTRICTIONS STUDENTS BY STATE STATUTE IS THE AVAILABLE.
BUT THE UNASSIGNED IS, IS NOT ONLY RESTRICTED BY STATE STATUTE FROM THE STATE, BUT ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY COMMITTED AND, AND, UH, EARMARKED FOR.
SO THIS ONE IS THE ONE THAT YOU STILL
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HAVE SOME LEEWAY ON IT.HI, MAY I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? COULD YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO PAGE SIX AND THE 34.21% VERSUS THE 44.06 10%.
DID, DID YOU TAKE IN CONSIDERATION THE OUTSTANDING FEMA FUNDS THAT WE STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED? UM, IT'S YOU DON'T? I MEAN, IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT, YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT YET, BUT THAT WILL BRING IT UP WHEN YOU RECEIVE IT.
THERE'S SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS OUTSTANDING WITH FEMA RIGHT NOW THAT WE PAID FOR THAT WE'LL RATE THEM FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
AND YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES I'VE SEEN THAT A LOT.
UM, OKAY, SO WE'RE READY TO GO BACK SAID, ALL RIGHT.
SO, UM, AT THE TOP, YOU'RE A, AN ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE GENERAL FUND HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH 34 30 0.34%.
IN THAT CASE, THE CHART AT THE BOTTOM IS A, AN ANALYSIS OF YOUR REVENUES OVER AND UNDER YOUR SPINACHES BEFORE TRANSFERS AND CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, FOR, FOR, UM, THE PHONES YOU SEE THERE AT THE GENERAL FUND, THE ELECTRIC FUND, THE WATER OR FUNDING, THE SEWER FUND, AND, UH, THE REVENUES OVER BASICALLY THE SURPLUS OF, UH, REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES FOR, UM, THE GENERAL FUND, UH, ACTUALLY HAS A DEFICIT OF 2.6 MILLION, UM, ELECTRIC FUND.
YOU'VE GOT A SURPLUS OF 4.8 MILLION, THE WATER FUND, 2.4 MILLION AND 1.5 MILLION PAGE EIGHT, WE HAVE AN ANALYSIS OF YOUR CASH AND YOUR FUND BALANCES AND CASH BALANCES IS IT IS OBVIOUSLY THE MONEY IN THE BANK.
THE FUND BALANCES ARE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ASSETS AND LIABILITIES BASICALLY.
AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE BY THE FUND, THE AMOUNTS THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE FOR BOTH THE CASH BALANCES AND FUND BALANCE THAN THE AMOUNTS FOR UNDERNEATH ON PAGE NINE.
AT THE TOP, WE GOT, UH, YOUR PROPERTY TAX RATES, UM, NEWBORNS TAX RATES ARE IN THE BLUE.
AND AGAIN, THE WEIGHTED AVERAGE OF OTHER TOWNS OF SIMILAR SIZE OR IN THE, IN THE WAY.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW YOUR TAX RATES COMPARE TO OTHER TOWNS WITH SIMILAR POPULATION.
SO YOU COULD SAY YOURS IS A 48.20 CENTS PER HUNDRED, UH, IN 2021.
ONCE AGAIN, THE STATE DON'T HAVE THE 2021, UH, DATA FORCE FOR THE AVERAGES.
YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH 2020, WHAT THE OTHERS ARE THEN AT THE BOTTOM, WE'VE GOT THE COLLECTION PERCENTAGES.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE IS, IS, UM, LUBRIN 99.4, 4%.
UM, THE GROUP WEIGHTED AVERAGE WAS IN THE RED AND THEN THE STATE, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT POPULATION THE HAVE ALL TOWNS ON PAGE 10, WE'RE GOING TO BREAK DOWN YOUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE BY CATEGORIES.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT YOUR AVALARA TAX IS YOUR LARGEST FOLLOWED BY YOUR INNER GOVERNMENTAL REVENUES, WHICH ARE, UM, BASICALLY, UM, LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX AND OTHER DISTRIBUTIONS FROM THE, FROM THE STATE PRIMARILY.
AND THEN THE THIRD LARGEST IS YOUR OTHER TAXES AND LICENSING, PRIMARILY THAT'S BUILDING PERMITS.
UM, AND LIKEWISE ON THE BOTTOM, WE'RE BREAKING DOWN THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, UM, BY CATEGORIES.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS YOUR LARGEST FOLLOWED BY YOUR PUBLIC WORKS, AND THEN YOUR CULTURAL AND RECREATIONAL, UM, EXPENDITURES.
AND ON PAGE 11, UM, THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATION ABOUT ADDRESSING THE LGC ALL THOSE FINDINGS THAT ARE, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST A REMINDER IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
AND WAS THAT, I MEAN, THAT BASICALLY CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS OR, OR LIKE I SAY, AS OF NOW, OR EVEN LATER YOU CAN CONTACT, CONTACT US.
WE'LL TRY TO GET YOU AN ANSWER.
THIS IS MORE, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
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UM, SOME THINGS THAT WE'D PROBABLY MAYBE WOULD HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WE, WE TALKED ABOUT DURING OUR, OUR WORKSHOP, UM, WHILE THE BOARD IS, IS GETTING GEARED UP TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET THIS SIZE FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO THE STAFF.UM, I THINK THIS, THIS ALL THIS YEAR IS ABOUT 30 PAGES LONG, LONGER THAN LAST YEAR'S.
AND WHEN I FIRST GOT THIS AND, AND LIKE, I ALWAYS LIKED TO COMPARE IT TO LAST YEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, SEE IF THE NUMBERS KIND OF STAND OUT JUST THE PURE VOLUME AND THE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, REVIEW.
UM, I THINK I'VE ALWAYS ASKED THIS QUESTION AND IT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE AUDIT.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT PROBABLY DURING THE, THE BOARD COULD AND SHOULD BE, BE DOING NOT NOTHING ON THE FORENSIC END, BUT JUST, UH, FROM FIDUCIARY ACCOUNTABILITY.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS TIME ABOUT FROM YOUR OUT OF THIS YEAR, HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS YOU THINK WE SHOULD REVIEW LOOK INTO MAYBE, UM, GET A PARTICULAR, UM, INTERNAL OUTFIT OF ANYTHING, OR I NOTICED THAT I THINK ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE IS UP A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR ACCORDINGLY, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT I'M SURE MOST BENCHMARKS WOULD SHOW THAT.
SO COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? UH, YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE SOME INTERNAL AUDIT TEAM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BECAUSE FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE COME IN ONCE A YEAR, UH, WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S, IF NOTHING ELSE THAT KEEPS PEOPLE, UH, HONEST.
UM, AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN PROBABLY, UH, DESIGNATE SOMEBODY TO BE AN INTERNAL AUDITOR OR THAT THAT'D BE PART OF SOMEBODY'S JOB AND THEY MAY ALREADY BE DOING SOME OF THAT.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT, UH, BUT, UM, I DO KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID TOO, WITH, UM, KIMBERLY AND THE STAFF AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THEM BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO OUR AUDIT IF THEY DIDN'T GIVE US THE INFORMATION AND ANSWER QUESTIONS ALL, ALL THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO IT APPEARS THAT THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH WHAT THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, WHEN COMING IN.
SO, UM, BUT, BUT IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE AN INTERNAL WALLET.
UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO ASK YOU.
UH, I KNOW I WANT YOU TO KIND OF HELP US FROM OTHER CITIES THAT YOU DEAL WITH.
WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH DEPARTMENTS, MUSEUM, THE NOONER CRAIG COUNTY LIBRARY, A HOUSING AUTHORITY.
AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE MENTIONED IN, THERE IS THINGS THAT DO NOT INCLUDE THE AUDIT.
UM, SOME YEARS AGO, THE BOARD DECIDED THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF A FUNDING RELATIONSHIP WITH SOME OF THESE SOURCE BARRETT, ET CETERA, THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE A COPY OF THEIR ANNUAL OUTPUT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE DOING BUSINESS WITH FOLKS THAT WERE SIMILARLY BEING AUDITED, ET CETERA.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY, I THINK IT'S ON PAGE, ON PAGE, YOU, YOU COMMENT THAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THE HOUSE AUTHORITY LIBRARY, SMITH'S BEAR FRIENDS, VIOLENCE MUSEUM, DO NOT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR ACCOUNTABILITY ON OUR PART.
UM, DO YOU, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A CITY COUNTY, I MEAN, CITY, I'M ASSUMING AS SOMEWHAT INDEMNIFIED, UM, WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT DO YOU EVER HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT? UH, I MEAN, YOU, YOU CERTAINLY, UH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAY, YOU WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THINGS THAT ARE, ARE PROPER IN REPUTABLE AND, UH, SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A COPY OF THEIR ALL.
UM, WE ALSO, A LOT OF TIMES, UM, WE HAVE IN THE NOTES TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THERE'S LOTS OF FINANCIAL DATA AND NUMBERS IN THE AUDIT REPORT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A SECTION IN THIS NOTES, IN THIS SEVERAL PAGES.
UM, AND A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE, IT'S LIKE A JOINT VENTURES OR WHATEVER THAT IS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT, THAT WE SOMETIMES PUT SOME VERBIAGE IN THERE ABOUT HOW THE RELATIONSHIP IS WITH THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP IS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.
WELL, YOU YOU'VE MENTIONED THEM IN HERE, SO THAT'S, THAT'S IF YOU'VE MENTIONED THEM IN THE SALAD AND I THOUGHT MAYBE ABOUT AN ESSAY QUESTION, LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION.
AS FAR AS, UH, VERY FEW DO IT NOW.
I THINK OUR NEW PUBLIC WORKS STRAIGHT OR MIGHT LEAVE FAMILIAR WITH IT FROM READING UP ON HIM, BUT SOME CITIES ACTUALLY HAVE A PUBLIC WORD STAMP PRIZE.
HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY SEEN YOU TRADITIONALLY THINK OF WATER, SEWER, ELECTRICITY AS BEING AN IMPROV SPENCER? UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER TYPE OF FUND SOURCES? THE CITY OTHER CITIES ARE USING, LOOKING INTO AS FAR AS, UH, ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT, THAT PROVIDE A SERVICE AND A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY?
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DO YOU HAVE ANY AND CLIENTS LIKE THAT, THE TOWNS THAT DONE THAT I CAN THINK OF, UH, THEY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM HAVE ELECTRIC, SOME OF THEM DON'T I KNOW Y'ALL DO, UM, UH, WATER, SEWER SANITATION SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IN THE, UM, PROPRIETARY FUNDS.UH, UM, AND THOSE ARE THE, THE TYPICAL FAMILIES.
I'M GOING TO STOP CAUSE I DID A FEW MORE QUESTIONS, BUT THE BOARD GOT SCARED OUT OF HERE.
JUST A QUESTION ON THE OPEB LIABILITY, IT GREW QUITE A BIT.
IS THAT, WAS THAT A NORMAL RATE OF INCREASE THIS YEAR OR WAS THERE SOME DIFFERENT FACTOR THAT CAME INTO PLAY? WELL, THE OPEB, UM, BASICALLY YOU HAVE AN ACTUARY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL USE MCDONALD'S, UH, KEVIN MCDONALD, MOST PEOPLE DO HAVE AN ACTUARY AND, YOU KNOW, UH, I'M JUST A LOWLY CPA, BUT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THAT ACTUARY STUFFS ENTIRELY, BUT, UM, BUT THEY, THEY DO AN ACTUARY AND, UM, ACTUARIAL REPORT AND, UM, THEY, THE NUMBERS ALL COME FROM FROM THAT.
UM, SO IT'S, UM, IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY AND HOW SPECIAL, LET ME HEAR THAT QUESTION AGAIN.
SO OUR OPEB LIABILITY GREW FROM LAST YEAR OF 35 MILLION TO NOW BASICALLY 44 MILLION.
SO THAT'S ALMOST A $9 MILLION INCREASE IN ONE YEAR.
OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE YOU CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT IF THAT WAS THE NORM EVERY YEAR, I JUST, I DIDN'T LOOK BACK TO SEE WHAT IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE THAN I'M ON PHONE AT HOME PAGE FORTY FOUR FORTY FOUR.
LET ME, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW A COUPLE OF YEARS THAT THINK THE LGC STARTED REQUIRING US TO SHOW THAT.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO DO THAT AND THEY ACTUALLY ASKED YOU WHERE YOU'VE HAD TO MAKE THE APPROPRIATE ADJUSTMENTS BACK IN, I DON'T KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, AND EVERYBODY'S WENT SKY SCOTT.
I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY PREDICTABLE HOW IT WENT, BUT IT'S BASED ON THE, UH, RETIRINGS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY RETIREES YOU GOT? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT EXTRA RETIREES NOW BEFORE.
UM, AND, UH, BASICALLY LET'S SAY THAT NEXT YEAR WE COME BACK TO DO THIS AGAIN.
AND THE CITY OF NEWBURN IS INSTITUTED, UM, EXTREME LEVERAGING OPPORTUNITIES AS FAR AS A HIGHER YIELD ON OUR INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN HISTORY, A WELLNESS PROGRAM THAT WE COMPREHENSIVELY WITH, UH, COMPREHENSIVE SIDEWALLS, ET CETERA, HAVE OUR, OUR 480 EMPLOYEES OUT AND WERE ENCOURAGING.
UM, MAYBE AN EXTENDED WHITE CENTER IS MORE OF A HOLISTIC GATHERING OF EVEN THE EMPLOYEES.
WE DO ALL THE MEMORABLE THINGS TO INCREASE THE WELLNESS OF NOT ONLY THE EMPLOYEES, BUT THE CITY.
UM, I KNOW THAT MOST OF THESE THINGS, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NIGHT, THE CAP RATES CAN VARY FROM ONE, ONE AND A HALF UP TO SEVEN EIGHT, WHATEVER IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PRETTY MUCH ALWAYS A MEASURE OF, OF A NUMBER OF THINGS, INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES, THE GILL, UH, A BONDS, ET CETERA, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
UM, CAN YOU TELL US WAVES TO IMPROVE THAT NUMBER? BECAUSE I KNOW, UH, ONE, UM, WHEN YOU GO TO YOU'RE DOING INFLATION RIGHT, OR TWO AND A HALF, WHICH I WOULDN'T ARGUE, UM, AND THIS IS UNDER MR. ADAMS QUESTION, WAGE GROWTH, WAGE INFLATION, ET CETERA.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THOSE THINGS, I DON'T SEE IN THERE WHERE THE CITY IS FUNDAMENTALLY LOOKING AT WAYS TO, UM, MAKE THAT A MORE FAVORABLE FIGURE.
I KNOW THAT ONE OF THEM IN HERE YOU'VE GOT US A COUPLE OF TIMES, ALL IT YOU'VE GIVEN US, UH, EXAMPLES OF A 1% INCREASE DECREASE IN HOW THAT WILL AFFECT THE LIABILITY OF THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
AND ASSUMING AGAIN, THIS, UH, SABRINA, EVERY YEAR WHEN WE DO THIS, I TALK ABOUT THE, WHAT THAT, UM, I'M FINDING BENEFITS.
I MEAN, THOSE FIVE THINGS, AND, YOU KNOW, CHARLOTTE'S LIKE 300 MILLION.
I DON'T OWN, WHAT DO WE, I MEAN, THERE'S, WE CAN'T CAP THE NUMBER OF RETIREES PER YEAR.
IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IN THIS LAST YEAR, WE DID HAVE A LOT OF RETIREES.
I MEAN, I THINK BACK HERE AND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, RETIRING, WHATEVER.
SO I GUESS THAT'S THE FLUCTUATION MAYBE, BUT YOU HAD 30 HEALTHY RETIREE EMPLOYEES AND VERSUS 20 THAT WERE NOT HEALTHY.
YOUR BOTTOM LINE COULD BE PARODY.
THE NUMBER FACTORS, 30 YEARS, YOU HAVE TO WORK
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BENEFITS OTHERWISE, WELL YOU WORK 20 OR MOST TIME IT'S 25, BUT 30 TO FULL BENEFITS.IS THAT RIGHT? YOU WOULD KNOW THAT 25, YOU CAN START OFF.
SO BASICALLY SAYING, WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT A WELLNESS PROGRAM, THEN I'M GOING TO, WELL, WE'LL GO OUT AND DO A LAP AROUND THE CITY.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST RUBBER STAMP THESE THINGS OVER HERE.
ONE THING THEY'RE PARTICULAR COULD CHANGE THE BOTTOM LINE OF ALL THIS STUFF IS THOSE CAP RATES.
I AGREE WITH AGREE WITH ONE OF THEM, BUT THOSE ARE THOSE THINGS THAT KEVIN ALL MCDONALD'S.
I MEAN, THESE, THESE NUMBERS THAT THE A TWO AND A HALF INTO A 1% LOWER THAN 1% HIGHER WAS RIGHT OUT WITH THEIR REPORT AND THEY GET IT OUT OF SOME BENCHMARKS SOMEWHERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S EXACTLY.
AND IT'S NOT, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU TAKE 10 CITIES, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ONE, THAT'S VERY UNHEALTHY.
ONE IS VERY, BUT VERY HEALTHY AND YOU'RE USING THE SAME CAP RATE.
SO THAT RIGHT HERE IS PROBABLY WE COULD, WE COULD DO BETTER.
I MEAN, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THIS AGAIN.
UM, IT'S ONLY BECAUSE THIS THING IS 30 PAGES LONGER.
IT'S BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE WANTING TO GET IN.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN YET, UH, OUR FUND BALANCES SOMETIMES LOOK, UM, VERY MARGINAL AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD.
IT'S JUST, WE'RE WAITING ON FEMA REIMBURSEMENT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK INTO THIS BUDGET, UM, IF WE HAVE 65, 70% FUND BALANCE, THAT'S NOT GOOD.
THAT NEEDS TO BE REINVESTED, PARTICULARLY IN A LOT OF OUR, UH, PUBLIC NEEDS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE.
WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TELLING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, UM, I'LL JUST SAY END IT WITH THAT WITH CAP RATES FOR RIGHT NOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT IT? NOT RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BECAUSE WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THIS EVERY YEAR, UM, WE, WE ARE ASKED TO SIGN A PIECE OF PAPER BASICALLY FOR YOUR AUDIT THAT SAYS, DO WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS, RIGHT? AND IF YOU CAME AND SAW ME FOR TWO HOURS, I WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE CONCERNS THAN IF YOU ASKED ME TO SIGN A PIECE OF PAPER ON THAT PIECE OF PAPER.
I MIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE NEED A WELLNESS PROGRAM.
MAYBE WE NEED TO NOT HAVE AN 80% FUND BALANCE.
MAYBE WE AREN'T BE IN REINVEST IN THIS, THEY'VE PUT IT IN THE BANK.
BUT I DON'T SAY ANY OF THAT BECAUSE ALL I'M ASKED FROM THE AUDIT TEAM IS TO SIGN A PIECE OF PAPER SAYING, CORRECT, IF THERE'S ANY ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, BUT YOU KNOW, TO, I CERTAINLY HAVE NEXT YEAR THAT THE AUDIT WILL CONSIST OF, OF SOMEBODY FROM YOUR FIRM.
UH, AND SOME STATS SITTING DOWN WITH AT LEAST TWO OR $3 A MONTH.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A FORM AND LET THEM TELL YOU, CAUSE YOU'LL GET A LOT MORE OUT OF THEM THAN IF YOU ASK THEM SCIENCES VADER.
BUT I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT YOU DO EVERYWHERE OR DO YOU DO, DO OTHER CITIES WANT TO MEET, TO TALK ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF? SO WE SAID, I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT WHEN WE HAVE AN AUDIT DISCUSSION.
I MEAN, WE HAD THE, WE DO HAVE SOME THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT ASKED FOR THOSE THINGS AND SOME JUST ROLL, ROLL ALONG.
WELL, I DON'T THINK SPARE TO SAID SAYS, IS THAT RUBBER STAMP THIS OUT? AND I ASK A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS WHEN IT'S PROVIDED US A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, PLUS THAT'S A CHUNK OF CHANGE.
UM, I COULDN'T QUITE MAKE OUT, DID A NEGATIVE PROJECT FUND BALANCE WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.
DID THAT COUNT AS A FINDING ON THIS AUDIT? IT DID.
SO WE CAN THANK FEMA FOR NOT ONLY DRAGGING THEIR FEET ON MANY THINGS WHERE THEY ALSO CAUSED US TO FIND, HAVE A FINDING ON OUR AUDIT.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? YEAH.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT IT SAID.
AND THEN I SAID, NO, THAT CAN'T BE IT.
QUESTIONS OR, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE NOT ASKING QUESTIONS.
I'LL GO BACK AND ASK A FEW AND THEN MAYBE, UM, SOME OF THESE LEXI WERE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED TO ARP, UM, POWELL FUNDING, UH, GEORGE, DID YOU GET THOSE FIGURES FOR LAST FIVE OR 10 YEARS FROM LB PHONE? WELL, UH, DANNY, YOU REMEMBER, UM, WORK LB FUNDS 600,007 MONTHS.
AND I KNOW I'M READING THIS WRONG BECAUSE I'M ON PAGE 27.
IF YOU COULD GO TO THAT SITE, I'M READING THIS THING CORRECTLY.
UM, IT HAS A FIGURE FOR RESTRICTED FOR STREETS OF 3 76, 47 47 1.
WHAT IS THAT? IT'S NOT POWERFULNESS WE'VE
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MADE, IS THAT, IS THAT THE ALLOCATION IN OUR BUDGET FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ON STREETS THIS YEAR? SORRY, THAT'S THE MSD.MSD IS GOING TO SPEND 376,000.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THAT'S, IF THAT IS STREET'S LINE ITEM OR FAIRS OUT OR IMPROVEMENTS, IS THAT SIDEWALKS? I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FIGURE RESTRICTED FOR STREETS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE PAYMENT THAT WE MAKE FOR THE STREETS STATE.
SO HOW WE FUNDED THE STREETSCAPE, I BELIEVE IS THAT RIGHT? KIM? THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN THAT THE MONEY THAT WE'RE PAYING BACK ON THE STREETSCAPE WE'LL SEE, IT SAYS ARE STRICTLY FOR STREETS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT MSD DID THE STREET, THAT KIND OF STREET WE PIPE IN, OR SO THAT'S THE PAIN THAT WHAT, SO WE MSD PAID $376,000 ON STREET.
WELL, YEAH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL FIX THE LOAN, THE STREET STATE.
REMEMBER YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW HOW WE WERE DOING THE STREET AT A TIME AND A SECTION AT A TIME WHEN WE BORROWED THE MONEY AND THIS IS THE PAYMENT THAT WE MADE.
I THINK, I THINK THE 730, 2000 AS THE MSD RESTRICTED FUNDS AND THEN THE RESTRICTED FOR STREETS, IT CALLS OUT RIGHT HERE IS POWER.
BILL FUNDS ARE ALSO CLASSIFIED AS RESTRICTED CASH.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER ONE.
I DIDN'T WANT TO BE THREE SEVENTY SIX.
WELL, I MEAN, PANEL PHONES ARE SIX, 600,000.
AND WITH THE CITY TAKING, SORRY.
MA'AM WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT TRIGGERED THAT FOR ME IS WE SAT DOWN HERE TODAY, SHADED THE BRIDGE, AND WE PUT 13 MORE MILES OF ROADS ON US TO GET RID OF THAT BRIDGE.
AND PART OF FIGURING THAT THING OUT WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET POWER FIVES BACK TO HELP KEEP THEM STRAIGHT STUFF.
SO BANG THING, DANNY, IF THE STREET, IF IT WAS 600, IT CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE 300.
NOW IT WOULD BE SOME BIG FIGURE, BUT THIS WOULD BE AN MSD.
I DON'T THINK THIS HAS TO DO WITH POWER.
SO ANYWAY, OH, THERE THEY'RE HEADING, THEIR EXPLANATION IS WRONG.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE IT SAYS POWELL, BILL FUNDS ARE RESTRICTED AND IT'S ALL IN THAT LINE ITEM.
CAN WE NEED TO SIT DOWN? AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
MAYBE IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESTRICTED FUNDS AND THEY LUMPED THEM ALL TOGETHER.
AND THE MSD IS THAT, AND THEN RESTRICTED POWER PHONES IS THE NEXT STEP, BUT JUST PUT IT ALL THERE, MAKING IT LOOK LIKE IT WAS ALL PART OF MSD.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF, BUT I PICKED IT UP.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT OUR, YEAH, WE, WE HAD SOME, SOME YEARS AGO AND ASKED ME IF THE ANSWER FOR ME, IF ANYBODY DOES, IS, IS THERE A, A BIBLE OF SORTS OF TERMS, DEFINITIONS, LINE, ITEM, ACRONYM, UH, EXPLANATIONS THAT OTHER CITIES DO SO THAT I DON'T BELABOR THIS POINT.
LIKE DO OTHER CITIES DO SOME CITIES HAVE A MANUAL BOOK TO GET A DEFINITION, BUT DECIDED PROBABLY NOT.
MY QUESTIONS ARE JUST QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TYLER.
DO OTHERS, DO WE, ANY CITIES DO THAT? UH, THAT THEY PROBABLY DO.
I'VE SEEN A FEW THAT HAD SOME, NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT, UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, SOME OF THEM HAVE THEIR TERMINOLOGIES, THEY THINK, BUT WITH THAT, I THINK WHAT YOU STATED BEFORE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR THESE ALL FOUR YEARS NOW IN THE WAY THAT YOU DO ASK THE QUESTIONS.
I THINK LIKE WHAT YOU SAID FOR NEXT YEAR, OR, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE COMING HERE, THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR, YOU KNOW, NOT A KAREN, BUT US TO SIT DOWN AND REALLY ANALYZE AND GO THROUGH THIS BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS IN A, YOU KNOW, IN A REGULAR SETTING BOARD MEETING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, TO HAVE WOMEN? SO I DO AGREE BECAUSE, AND AT THAT POINT, I THINK SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAD CONCERN THAT SOME OF THE TIMES WE WERE GETTING THE SOLIDS THE NIGHT OF THE HOLIDAY IS THAT, AND THANKS STAFF THAT WE GOT THIS LAST WEEK AND A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE I'M HAVING UP HERE TONIGHT IS THAT I, I READ THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF ON THE COMPUTER AND NOW I'VE GOT THIS.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TRANSPOSING FROM MY NOTES, WHICH ARE OFF THE COMPUTER TO PAY FOR.
SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, GUYS, WOULD YOU SAY MAYBE TWO WEEKS AT A TIME, BE REAL NICE TO HAVE IT KIND OF ASK THESE QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE, I HAVE A TERM.
I NEED AN ANSWER TO IT'S ON PAGE 45.
YOU HAVE, UH, YOU HAVE YEAR ENDED JUNE 30TH OF 22 THROUGH 26
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AND YOU GOT ALL THESE TITLES AND UM, WHAT IS THE TERM THEREAFTER? AND THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A, IT'S A SUMMATION OF ALL THOSE FIGURES SAID, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY THEREAFTER? WE PAID HER.YOU DON'T MA'AM WAIT ON ONE PAGE 45 NUMBERS THEREAFTER TO ME WOULD MEAN SOMEWHAT OF A TRENDING FORECAST, BIGGER FOR MAYBE THE NEXT YEAR.
BUT THE TERM THEREAFTER IS ACTUALLY A SUMMATION OF, OF YEARS, 22 THROUGH 2016.
WHY, WHAT DOES THAT TERM MEAN? OH YEAH.
I MEAN IT BASICALLY, THEY, THEY, THEY GET, UH, UH, FIVE-YEAR SORT OF CIVIC NUMBERS AND THEN THE THEREAFTER IS GOING TO BE MULTIPLE YEARS THERE.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ALL ONE YEAR.
IT'S 27, 28, HOWEVER FAR IT GOES OUT.
AND THAT'S AGAIN FROM THE, UH, ACTUAL WAY CAM TO YOU, IS THAT WHO THIS IS, ON THIS STUFF UP.
UH, WE DO SOMEBODY IN OUR FIRM DOES.
I MEAN, I DO SOME, UH, WE GOT OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T DO IT MAY AS WELL, BUT THAT INFORMATION COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE ACTUARY REPORT.
SHE WILL HAVE THAT, UM, OVER A YEAR, 365 DAYS A YEAR, THE BOARD INTERACTS WITH THE STAFF AND I THINK THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD PULSE ON THE FINANCES.
THEN AN ORDER COMES IN AND ALL IT SAID AND SEMANTICALLY WRITES IT UP.
AND THAT PARTICULAR AUDIT FIRMS, MANNERISMS OF HOW THEY WERE WRITE IT.
AND THEN LIKE SAY IN THE PAST, WE'D GET IT THE NIGHT OF THE MEETING THIS TIME WE GOT LIKE FIVE DAYS AHEAD OF TIME, BUT STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO STAFF AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LEVELS OF STAFF AND NOW WE'RE GETTING IT FROM OUR GOVERNMENT.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS THE FLOOD.
IS IT, IS IT IN OUR BENEFIT TO ALMOST HAVE LIKE AN AUDIT COMMITTEE OF ALDERMEN THAT WOULD MEET, THEY WOULD WORK IT.
AND THEN BEFORE THE STRESS COMES OUT AND LOOK AT, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WORK WITH THE AUDITOR AND THEN AGAIN, GET IT FIVE DAYS.
SO THAT THERE'S SOME ALDERMAN INTERACTION THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT IS, YOU KNOW, AMENABLE, BUT MY THING IS IS IF WE GOT THIS A WEEK AGO, THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MEETING SCHEDULED TODAY.
WAS THERE A DEADLINE FOR HIM TO PRESENT IT? OR WE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO GET IT ON THE AGENDA, SHOULD WE, WHEN WE GET IT PHYSICALLY, SHOULD WE WAIT A MONTH OR WAIT A MEETING TO PUSH IT OUT? LIKE IN REGARDS TO HIM ACTUALLY PRESENTING IT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GO OVER THE INFORMATION.
ACTUALLY, WE'D LIKE TO SEE MAYBE EVEN A COUPLE HOUR WORK SESSION WITH STAFF TO GO OVER WITH US BEFORE, BEFORE, I MEAN, GIVE US SOME EDUCATORS A LITTLE BIT ON THIS STUFF.
AND OUR WOMAN HARRISON, THIS INSTANCE, OUR DEADLINE WAS COMING UP IS JANUARY 31ST.
WE HAD, WE HAD REQUESTED AN EXTENSION ON THIS BASED ON THE ISSUES WE HAD IN THIS PAST YEAR WITH STAFF TURNOVER AND THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
WE'RE, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SET, SET A MEETING, UH, SMALL GROUPS TO, TO MEET WITH ALL THE ALDERMEN TO GO OVER THIS INFORMATION WHEN WE GET THE AUDIT IN AND THEN HAVE A, HAVE A MEETING TWO WEEKS LATER AFTER EVERYONE SUGGESTED THE INFORMATION, COME BACK AND THEN, OH, WERE THEY WAITING ON US TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO COMPLETE THEIR AUDIT? NO, WE WERE WAITING ON THEM NOW.
IT WAS MORE STAFF TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD EVERYTHING THAT THE OFFICERS NEED, UM, OR PAGE 48.
AND I NOTICED PROBABLY IS NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE AUDIT, BUT ANY HIS SEE TO ME ABOUT ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS WOULD SIT DOWN WITH ALL OF THESE INSTALLMENT LOAN PURCHASES.
AND NOT THAT WE'RE FLUSHED WITH CASH.
UM, CAM, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE ON PAGE 48 AND 47 AND ARE THERE SOME THAT IT WOULD NOT TOTALLY HURT OUR FUND BALANCE AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE WANTING TO DO THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST TO SEE NEW, TO PAY SOME OF THESE OFFER, MAYBE COMBINE THEM OR GET WITH A BANK AND MERGE TWO, THREE OF THEM.
ARE WE LOOKING INTO THAT? YEAH.
WE, UM, HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT.
UM, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DIVE DEEP INTO THAT JUST YET, BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE CALLING HIRED, UM, DEBT BOOK TO, TO PUT THAT WHOLE, UM, SCHEDULE TOGETHER SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND HAVE SOME REPORT MECHANISMS AVAILABLE, UM, AND THEN WORK WITH REFINANCING SOME OF THESE POSSIBLY, ESPECIALLY SINCE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO TAKE AND LOOK AT THE INTEREST RATES AND SEE IF IT WILL GET A BETTER, A BETTER RATE AT THIS TIME.
OR IF IT EVEN REALLY MAKES SENSE,
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SOME OF THEM I CAN SEE WHERE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO PAY OFF, BUT THEN AGAIN, WE, I HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO DIVE DEEP IN THAT.OR TWO OF THEM WERE SHORTER THIS YEAR OR 3, 4, 4 MAJORITIES.
THERE'S THERE'S THE NEXT I W I BELIEVE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, I SAW WHERE THERE WAS TWO THAT WERE, UM, PAID OFF.
AND THEN IN 2025, I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE.
SO AGAIN, I'M SORRY, IT WASN'T REALLY NECESSARILY READY FOR THAT QUESTION, BUT I COME BACK WITH, UM, PAGE 83 AND NEVER QUESTIONING, UM, REVENUES RIGHT THERE ON THE FIRST ROAD, THIS ASHLEY GRANT THAT YOU HAD TO PROJECT AUTHORIZATION PRIOR YEARS COMPLETED PROJECT.
AND THE VARIOUS IS A NEGATIVE 1 27.
IS THAT CALLS WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? WE JUST NOT, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN FUNDED.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE WAITING ON? WHAT IS THE FIGURE? 1 27 5 9 9 1.
WHAT, WHY IS THAT NEGATIVE FIGURE? YEAH.
SO, UM, BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS IS YOUR BUDGET.
IT'S THE SAME NUMBER AS THE AUTHORIZATION IS WHAT I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT STAYED RIGHT WITH THE PROJECT AUTHORIZATION.
THE PRIOR YEAR WAS 110 TO 26, RIGHT? THIS IS, THIS IS FEMA, HURRICANE IRENE, AND WE'RE NOT CLOSED OUT YET ALONG WITH DORIAN AND WE'RE NOT CLOSED YET.
WHY BOBBY? WHY WAS THAT STILL AT, I'M DOING EVERYTHING OR DOING? I THOUGHT WE HAD CLOSED.
I READ RECENTLY THAT THAT CAN BE CLOSED OUT, BUT I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO, I MEAN, WHEN WE DO A LITTLE BUDGET AMENDMENT AND CLOSE THIS THING OUT, WHAT WE DID AND WHAT ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS YOU GOT TO, YOU'RE GOING TO, IF, IF IT'S YOUR MONEY, YOU CAN TRANSFER THE FUND BALANCE BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND OR WHATEVER.
SO YOU'VE GOT MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION, UH, IF YOU'RE THREE AND THEN WE COULD LOOK AT THAT PAGE, CAUSE WE DIDN'T CLOSE THAT, THAT HURRICANE IRONY NOW.
I MEAN, IN ANY OF THAT, YOU'RE DONE WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA, UNLESS YOU GOT SOME MORE STUFF COMING, WE DON'T KNOW IF HE GOT SOME MORE STUFF COMING FROM IT, BUT IF NOT, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T SIT THERE AND YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
BUT WOULDN'T THAT NOT BE A QUESTION OF YOU TO ASK THEM? UH, WE DO MOST OF THE TIME, I DON'T KNOW.
I, I DIDN'T, I WASN'T DOING ALL THE WORK ON.
SO, UM, AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2021, WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO DO THE, UM, ASSESS THIS.
COULDN'T DO THE TRANSFERS AND DO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
UM, WE, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK ON JUNE OF 2021 LEADING INTO JULY THERE, WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THAT CAPACITY, THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT AT THAT TIME.
AND SO NORMALLY WE WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THIS THROUGH THE BUDGET AMENDMENT PROCESS.
WE WOULD HAVE MADE THE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS AND TRANSFERS AND BUDGET, YOU KNOW, UH, TRANSFER RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD.
AND WE WOULD HAVE CLEANED THAT UP.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THE YEAR END PROCESS.
AND WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THAT TIME TO DO THAT BEFORE WE WERE DONE WITH THAT FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE OF THE BACKLOG OF WORK AND THINGS THAT WE WERE ALREADY DEALING WITH, THAT WAS KIND OF, WE, WE WERE, UM, WE WERE BEYOND THAT AT THAT POINT YOU'RE ALREADY CLOSED AND WE WERE ABLE TO REALLY DIVE INTO RECONCILING AND LOOKING AT IT.
SO IS THIS SOMETHING YOU THINK THAT WE CAN WORK ON NEXT? ABSOLUTELY.
WE WILL BE, I I'M GUESSING THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ONE AS WELL.
UM, I, I CANNOT RECALL WHICH ONE IT WAS THAT I HAD SEEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR OR WHEN I WAS DOING THE AUDIT.
BUT, UM, THOSE, THOSE, UH, PROJECT PLANS WILL BE CLOSED OUT.
THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR A LOOK FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND BELIEVE.
I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER THAT YOU GAVE KIM BEING, YOU KNOW, TRANSPARENT.
AND I MEAN, EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH AS A CITY COVID AND EVERYTHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HONEST.
DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? I HAVE ONE PAGE.
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I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING 30 PAGES LONG, IT'S EITHER WE'RE IN 30 PAGES WE'RE SHAPED OR SOMEBODY'S DONE A BETTER JOB, OR WE WOULDN'T GET ENOUGH STUFF LAST YEAR.AND SO, I MEAN, I JUST SAT THERE AND THE MORE I LOOKED AT IT AND I DON'T, I MEAN, I HOPE YOU GUYS KNOW.
I DON'T NORMALLY ASK THIS MANY QUESTIONS AND I'LL JUST BE QUESTIONS.
UM, PAGE 101 NOTE IS AGAIN, TRANSPOSING.
UM, THE FIGURE WAS 2,000,900, 5,775.
UM, AND ON A PUBLIC WORKS, THERE'S 2,791,000.
UM, SO I SEE WHERE YOU GOT THAT ACCESS TWO THOUSAND TWO MILLION NINE HUNDRED, $5,775.
UM, AND THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE CITY OF NEWBURGH NON-MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS IMPROVEMENTS.
WHEN YOU CAN HAVE SOMETHING WITH THAT MUCH, WHAT WOULD THAT SUBSTANTIAL A NUMBER OF FIGURES? SHOULD YOU BE DOING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO CORRECT THAT? OR IS THAT OKAY FOR THAT THING TO LAY OVER? UM, AS WE ARE IN THE FUND BALANCES IN THE HOME, 1,000,700 $28,000, IT IS, I'M JUST ASKING THAT ON SOME OF THESE, DO WE NEED TO KIND OF, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO HIRE THE GENTLEMAN HERE TO KIND OF CATCH US UP OR JUST SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND CAUGHT UP ON AS FAR AS, UM, CLOSING OUT OR MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS.
SO THIS WON'T BE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD.
UM, IT WAS A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE TIMING AT THE END OF JUNE WITH THE BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT HAPPENED AS WELL AS, UM, THE STAFF CHANGES, UM, AND THEN NOT HAVING THE, THE STAFF AVAILABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE BACK AND PREPARE FOR THAT.
SO THESE NEGATIVE FUND BALANCES ARE RESULT OF THAT.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT THAT, UM, THOSE BUDGET TRANSFERS NEED TO BE DONE.
AND WE NEED TO TAKE THAT TO YOU BEFORE JUNE 30TH.
SO, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T, UM, THAT CAUSED US TO HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER HIT OF THE NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE, FINDING I'M JUST ASKING, UM, TO KIND OF CATCH US ALL UP.
IF WE NEED, WE CALL IT, DO WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT THE GENTLEMAN HERE WITH HIS FIRM OR SOMEBODY COME IN HERE AND REVIEW OVER SOME OF THESE ITEMS AND SEE HOW TO MODIFY THEM TO CLEAN THEM UP, SEE IF THERE'S A FUN BOUNCING, OR IF THERE'S, UH, ADJUSTMENTS, ADJUSTMENTS, ET CETERA, OR THEY NEED TO BE CLOSED OUT, ET CETERA.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE, I MEAN, WE SURELY CAN, I'M OPEN TO THAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE, UM, THE STAFF THAT CAN HANDLE IT AND WE'RE VERY COMPETENT AND CAN, AND NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THIS AUDIT BEHIND US, REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
SO WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.
WELL, I WON'T GET OFF THE FINANCE FOLKS FOR A MOMENT AND I'M GOING TO GO TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I MET WHICH ISN'T IS ON PAGE 1 49.
UH, CHIEF AUERMANN ASKED HER, UM, CAN YOU BETTER CALL HIM AND SEE ALL THE POLITICS AND THE RESPONSE TIMES DOWN HERE? UM, RESPONSE TIME, THE, AGAIN, I'VE GOT THE TRANSPOSE, MY, MY NOTE, BUT, UM, PAGE 1 49 IS 63.8, 7% OF THE TIME.
UM, WE'RE RESPONDING WITHIN 90 SECONDS TO, UH, TO A CALL.
AND THE AVERAGE IS 78 TO 85% OF THE TIME.
AND THIS IS NOT REALLY AN ACCOUNTING QUESTION, BUT IT'S IN THE AUDIT.
AND IF YOU LOOK, UM, WHAT PAGE RESPONSE TIMES WE'RE AT 49 ABOVE, IT SAYS POLICE CONDUCT, OH, EXCUSE ME, ANSWER 90% OF THE CALLS AND 10 SECONDS.
THAT'S POLICE DISPATCH, EMERGENCY CALL IN 90 SECONDS, DISPATCH NON-EMERGENT CALL.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT UNDER FIVE.
AND I WON'T BELABOR THAT TONIGHT.
I'LL TALK WITH STAFF, BUT I WAS VERY CONCERNED THAT ONE OF THE FIGURES THOUGHT WE WERE IMPROVING OUR RESPONSE TIME.
IT LOOKED LIKE ONLY 90 SECONDS.
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BIT.THAT WAS FOR HIM OUT OF QUESTIONS.
I OVERALL THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
I CERTAINLY THINK THE STAMP, I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO TRANSLATE MY TO AND HOLD UP THE BOARD STYLE QUESTIONS.
I DO HAVE THIS, BUT I'LL ASK IT LATER.
I JUST SEE THAT THIS IS A VERY CONCERNED SITUATION HERE IN A VERY COMPLEX SITUATION THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH IMMEDIATELY AND GET THIS THING NIP IN THE BUD.
AND MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL PROBABLY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A COMMITTEE, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO HAVE SOME SORT OF WORKSHOPS OR SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, THIS.
SO IT'S NOT EVEN A WEEK OR TWO BECAUSE YOU REALLY CAN'T SIT HERE AND ANALYZE THIS IN A WEEK EITHER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU NEED THE OTHER PERSON THERE TO BE ABLE TO, OR STAFF THAT WE HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT.
SO I DO AGREE WITH AUTUMN AND BINGO ON THAT ONE AND THE MAYOR.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON PAGE 1 57? YOU MAKE ONE TIME AT THERE NOW I'LL ASK YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
I WON'T MAKE ANY COMMENTS TAKE MORE PAGE SEVEN, YOUR OWN.
SO THAT'S A, THE ONE PICTURE SEVEN IS YOUR, UM, YOUR SCHEDULE FINDING COST, UM, BASICALLY THAT JUST, UH, THAT'S UH, REQUIRED, UH, REPORTS, UM, THAT GOES IN THE AUDIT AND BASICALLY IS THE NO'S ARE GOOD AND THE YES MAY NEED TO WORK WELL.
WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.
I WOULD RATHER GET THE ANSWERS IF WE NEED ANSWERS TO ANYTHING HERE AND SOMEBODY CALL ME LAUREN, I AIN'T GOT A CLUE.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THAT PAGE IS? QUIET THINGS.
BECAUSE OF THOSE FINDINGS, IF THOSE FINDINGS WEREN'T THERE, THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH.
SO BASICALLY I GOT A QUESTION BASICALLY, WHEN YOU COME TO CHECK THE CHECKBOOK OUT TO BALANCE IT OUT, IT'S BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE GIVEN.
I MEAN, WE, WE ALSO, UH, TEST THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GET, WE GET RANDOM CHECK NUMBERS AND CHECK IT TO THE INVOICE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WAS PAID WAS WHAT WOULD THE INVOICE WAS AND THAT THERE WAS A PO FOR IT.
AND SO THE TWO PR PROCESSES, SO WE TEST YOUR PROCEDURES, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS JUST TAKE IT AT FACE BACK AND JUST LIKE TONIGHT, THE QUESTIONS THAT WE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU, RIGHT.
THAT WE WAS LOOKING TO GET A PRETTY, UH, OPEN ANSWER FROM YOU.
DO YOU TEST THINGS LIKE WHEN I WRITE CHECK $200, A HUNDRED DOLLARS ELECTRIC, 50 GOES, THE WATER 50 GOES TO SEWER, OR DO YOU TEST WHETHER OR NOT, HOWEVER THAT WORKS WHEN THAT CHECK IS DEPOSITED, DOES THE ELECTRIC ENTERPRISE WAR ENTERPRISE SO WERE, DO THEY, DOES THAT MONEY FUNNEL EQUITABLY? BASICALLY WE DO THAT.
WE DO A CHECK, NOT ONLY THAT THE, THE CHECK MATCHES THE, UM, INVOICE, BUT WE TEST THE GENERAL LEDGER ACCOUNT NUMBERS THAT IT GETS POSTED TO TO MAKE SURE IT'S REASONABLE.
I MEAN, YOU DO LIKE A 10% TEST OR THAT YOU JUST ANOMALY DO THE ONE OR TWO OR WHATEVER FOR THE 10, UH, CASH DISBURSEMENTS.
I MEAN, WE KNEW OTHER TESTS JUST, UH, ASIDE FROM CASH DISBURSEMENTS, WE, WE TYPICALLY PULL 40 CHECKS, 40 RANDOM CHECKS OUT OF YOUR BEGINNING AND ENDING CHECK NUMBERS.
AND WE HAVE A RANDOMIZER ON A COMPUTER, UH, THAT, THAT SPITS OUT TO CHECK NUMBERS THAT WE NEED TO GO LOOK AT.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S JUST RANDOM CHECK NUMBERS.
DO YOU LOOK AT ANY AREAS THAT THE CITY, AND THIS IS ONE THAT SOME ISLAND YOUR HEAD STEP, WHERE I WOULD HAVE THE EXPERTISE, MAYBE STAFF, WHEN A CONSUMER, A SYSTEM NEWBURGH CITY LIMITS IS BUYING POWER FROM DUDE AND THEY'RE PAYING TAXES.
THERE IS A REFUNDABLE AMOUNT OF THAT THAT GOES BACK TO THIS, COULD GO BACK TO THE MINUTE SPOUTING, DO YOU TEST THINGS LIKE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING ALLEY MONEY THAT WAY? UM, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WE GO LOOKING FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT I MEAN, IF WE SEE THAT ON A DOCUMENT OR SOMETHING, WE MAY MAY ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT, WHEN DOES THAT COME IN? CAN YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? UM, I GUESS, UM, WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO VIEW IN OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
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SO THEY HAVE TO DO THAT DURING THE AUDIT PROCESS, WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR TESTING, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO.AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE PROVIDING THEM INFORMATION, THEY'RE ALSO ABLE TO TEST THAT THROUGH OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND FOLLOW IT THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING YOUR OWN INTERNAL CONTROLS AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE THAT IT'S ACCURATE.
SO, UM, I'M SORRY IF I DIDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I JUST WAS KIND OF ON A THOUGHT FROM THE PREVIOUS QUESTION, BUT, UM, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO THESE WORKSHOPS AND THERE'S ALWAYS THESE, THESE SPECIALISTS THAT SWEARING COME TO YOUR CITY AND FIND ALL THIS MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH CHASING SOME OF IT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT MUCH FOR THE AMOUNT OF STAFF AND TIME RESOURCES IT WOULD TAKE TO COLLECT IT.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO PICK YOUR BATTLES.
ARE YOUR ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE SKIRMISHES IN MY BOOK, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND HALF QUESTIONS, NO QUESTION.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, OUR POWER BILL MONEY WAS 759,585.
SO THAT'S NOT THAT NUMBER SO WELL, WHEN I SEE SOMETHING SAYS STREET, THERE'S $300,000.
I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THOSE.
UM, AND I LIKE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S UNSPENT POWERFUL, PROBABLE THAT IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE RESTRICTED LINE.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT IS, BUT I THINK I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT.
THE MSP WOULD HAVE THAT, RIGHT? YEAH.
NAH, I THINK SHE'S JUST SAYING MS. SHE, THAT WAS A SUMMARY OF RESTRICTED FUNDS.
MSD IS ONE RESTRICTED FUND AND THE POWER BILL FUND IS ANOTHER RESTRICTED.
I SAID, THAT'S SITTING AROUND UNSPENT, I'LL DO THE MONEY.
WELL, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO SPEND SENATORS ON THAT, RIGHT? IF YOU DON'T FIND THAT YOU HAVE TO RESTRICT THAT.
BUT IF I COULD COMMENT BEFORE WE GO, I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE, WHETHER IT'S A FINANCE COMMITTEE OR, UM, MEET AHEAD OF TIME AND PLAN TO DO THAT THIS COMING SEASON OUT OF SEASON.
SO WHEN WE FINISH UP, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT TIME FOR YOU TO GO OVER IT, TO EXPLAIN THE AUDIT TO YOU, TO, TO HAVE MORE CHARTS, TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE CHANGES, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SAW ON OUR END AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS, UM, PROVIDE YOU MORE, UM, I GUESS, DATA TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU THAT YOU CAN USE.
UM, IT'S A LOT TO INGEST AND YOU JUST CAN'T ADJUST IT IN A WEEK AND YOU DO NEED SOMEBODY TO BREAK IT OUT.
SO I DEFINITELY AM IN FAVOR OF THAT.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT MY BACKGROUND IS.
IT SAYS WITH, UM, MY PREVIOUS, UH, EMPLOYERS, WE DID THE SAME THING.
WELL, IT'S A PLEASURE BOARD ON THE SIDE.
CAUSE IT WAS JUST A PRESENTATION.
MR. DAVIS, WHAT ACTION WOULD YOU LIKE ON THE SIDE OF SIR? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY ACTIONS.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND STAFFER HARD WORK.
REALLY? I MET, I SPEAK FOR BOARD.
UM, THEY WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND JUST NOT WHAT THEY HAVE AND UM, IF YOU COULD GET IT MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE DAYS EARLIER, I WOULDN'T BE TRYING TO TRANSPOSE THEM.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ITEM, MR. HUGHES? NO, SIR.
[7. Conduct a Public Hearing and Consider Adopting an Ordinance to Establish Electric Rate Schedules for Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.]
ALRIGHT, THANKS TIME.IT'S CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH ELECTRIC RATE SCHEDULES FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK CHARLOTTE TO COME UP AND GIVE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THIS GOOD EVENING.
I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS TONIGHT.
AS MR. HUGHES PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, I'M REQUESTING YOUR CONSIDERATION TOWARDS ADOPTING TWO NEW ELECTRIC RATE SCHEDULES.
THE SCHEDULES ARE DESIGNED TO BRIDE TO PROVIDE A SERVICE FOR THE GROWING ELECTRIC VEHICLE MARKET.
THEY ALSO OFFER CONSUMERS ADDITIONAL
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CHOICE FOR CHARGING ELECTRIC VEHICLES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.AS YOU WERE PRESENTED, SCHEDULE 14 IS AVAILABLE TO COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT DESIRE TO OPERATE LARGE SCALE CHARGING STATIONS AND THEN RESELL THE ENERGY TO ELECTRIC VEHICLE OPERATORS.
THE STATION OWNER IN THIS CASE IS THE RESELLER OF THE ENERGY.
AND THEY'LL DETERMINE WHAT THE RESELL PRICE IS.
YOU MAY ALSO NOTICE IN THE ORDINANCE REVISIONS THAT I PROVIDED THE RED LINE TEXT.
I'M EXCLUDING THESE TYPES OF CHARGING SITUATIONS STATIONS FROM OUR OTHER COMMERCIAL RATE STRUCTURES.
UM, SCHEDULE 15 IS EXCLUSIVE TO CITY-OWNED CHARGING STATIONS WHERE ENERGY IS SOLD DIRECTLY TO THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE OPERATOR AND USE OF THE CHARGING STATION IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO CITY OF NEW BERN ELECTRIC CUSTOMERS.
I BELIEVE BOTH RATE SCHEDULES HAVE BEEN DESIGNED TO RECOVER THE UTILITIES, COST OF SERVICE AND PROVIDE THE CONSUMER WITH AN AFFORDABLE RATE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS OR GO INTO MORE DETAIL.
I DON'T HAVE 68 CENT WHATEVER.
AND THE NORM YOU'RE AND I TALK ABOUT EVIE AND ALL THAT, AND IT'S LIKE 45.
I THINK WE'RE PRETTY WELL COVERED THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD WITH YOUR RATE STRUCTURE AND, AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING AN HOUR, SO YEAH, THEY WITH ME.
BUT, UM, SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT ONE HERE WHERE THE TESLER OVER AT SMITHFIELDS HAS A SEPARATE TRANSFORMER AND A METER TO WHOLESALE AND SELL WELL TO RETAIL FROM OUR WHOLESALE SALE.
THAT TO ACTUALLY TESLA, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S ONLY, IT'S OPEN TO TEST THE CUP CUSTOMERS AT THIS TIME WORD ON THE STREET.
AND THE NEWS IS THAT TESLA MAY OPEN THAT SITE TO OTHER CHARGING, UH, TO OTHER MANUFACTURERS, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO FIND IT DAY AFTER TO INSIDE SO MUCH, LIKE SOME FOLKS AROUND TOWN, LIKE CITY NEWBURN RAN OUT OF ATM SPOT SMITHFIELD'S IT'S JUST WORKED OUT SOME AGREEMENT WITH TESLA, CORRECT? THEY HAVEN'T.
AND FROM OUR TOBES, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THIS IS TO GET STARTED ON MAKING OUR CITY FRIENDLY TO ALL FOLKS THAT WANT TRAVEL.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO, WE GOT TO DO SOME OF THIS, BUT FROM, YOU KNOW, AT 68 CENTS A KILOWATT HOUR OR 0.68, WHATEVER IT WAS, UM, IT'S LIKE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DO IN GOVERNMENT.
IT DOESN'T FIGURE OUT THE SHELF LIFE OF THAT METER OUT THERE, THE MAINTENANCE ON IT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND SO IF YOU INCORPORATE ALL THAT PLUS THAT'S, THAT'S NOT EVEN, THAT'S A STRAIGHT WIRE TO THE METER ITSELF, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR READING.
THERE'S NOT A METER BEFORE THE METER THAT YOU'RE GETTING YOUR READINGS OR WHATEVER THAT'S DOING STRAIGHT FROM THE METER ITSELF FROM A METER, RIGHT.
WE'RE WE HAVE A REDUNDANT METER OUT THERE SO WE CAN KEEP TRACK.
SO A LOT OF CITIES ARE LETTING FOLKS CHARGE FREE.
AND THEY'RE DOING IT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO STOP THE RESTAURANT, STOP DRESS, SHOP, STOP, AND GET THE TRAIN TO GET.
BUT I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT THE SELMA WITH VOLKSWAGEN THAT NUMERIC WOULD QUALIFY FOR TWO MORE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, BUT MAYBE EVEN MORE, WE DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS YET, BUT VOLKSWAGEN HAS ANNOUNCED THAT THERE'S ANOTHER ROUND OF GRANTS THAT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER.
SO WE'LL BE EXPLORING THAT CONCURRENTLY WITH THE OPERATION OF THE, WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO FORWARD THAT TO ME, IF, IF WE WERE GOING TO GET TWO MORE, I WOULDN'T WANT THEM, MY 2 CENTS WORK, UM, AROUND AN AREA THAT NOT ONLY PEOPLE MIGHT SHOP AND GO TO A RESTAURANT, BUT MIGHT STOP AND EXERCISE, ET CETERA.
AND I THINK A LOCATION LIKE THE NEW STANLEY WHITE ON BROWN STREET, SOMEWHERE HAVING CHARGING STATIONS THERE TO GET FOLKS IN OTHER AREAS OF TOWN, YOUR SIZE, DOWNTOWN CHARGING.
I DON'T THINK EVERY CHARGING STATION HAS TO BE A UNION POINT OR AT THE LIBRARY, OR, YOU KNOW, THAT PARKING LOT OVER THERE DO WORK.
UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO THINK ABOUT, UM, OTHER LOCATIONS, BUT FROM WHAT I READ, I, I DON'T THINK WE WON'T BE IN THE CHARGE HAD BEEN THE SAME MORE THAN WE HAVE TO WHEN THERE'S OTHERS THAT CAN DO THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS GRANT IS, IS DESIGNED TO HELP US LEARN.
THIS IS BASICALLY A PILOT PROJECT.
UM, WE'RE EXPLORING NEW TERRITORY AND, UH, WE'RE ON THE CUTTING EDGE.
UH, WE'RE LEARNING A LOT FROM STAFF'S EXPERIENCE.
WE'RE ALSO LEARNING A LOT IN THE CONSUMER MARKET AND WHAT THE CONSUMER IS DEMANDING AS A PRODUCT FROM THE UTILITY.
SO I THINK OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, AS WE SEE WHAT THE ADOPTION RATE IS ON THIS, THIS CHARGER
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WILL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO, TO KNOW IF, IF THAT'S THE BUSINESS WE WANT TO BE IN OR NEED TO BE, OH, PRIVATE ENTERPRISE BATTERIES.I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY PAY FOR IT.
SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A CARD SWIPE THERE.
HOW DID THEY PAY FOR IT? THEY SIGN UP WITH AN APP RIGHT THROUGH THE VENDOR AND THESE DRIVERS THAT ARE DOING THIS, THEY KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THE APP IS MOBILE.
SOMETIMES THE APP IS BUILT INTO THE TECHNOLOGY OF THE CAR, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WORK ON THAT PARTICULAR, BUT HOW DO WE GET PAID THEN THE VENDOR THAT THEY ARE GOING TO THROUGH THE APP, CORRECT.
WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH A THIRD PARTY THAT DOES ALL THE CASHIERING FOR US.
WE DON'T DO ANY CUSTOMER SERVICE.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SELECTING CHARLIE.
WHAT'S YOUR PROFIT MARGIN FACTORED INTO THESE RATES.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROFIT MARGIN.
WE CALCULATE, WE DESIGN OUR RATES FOR COST OF SERVICE.
SO WE RECOVER ALL THE COST OF ENERGY.
WE COVER THE COST OF THE STATION, COVERED COST OF DEPRECIATION.
WE COVER THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, WE DON'T PUT A PROFIT MARGIN AS, AS OTHER BUSINESSES KNOW INTO THE RATE.
SO YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL THINGS.
DID YOU COVER THE COST OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE VENDOR, FOR US TO GET PAID? SO THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL.
SO THE ONE, THE ONE COMMENT I'LL MAKE ABOUT IT'S IRONIC.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PANEL BILLS A MINUTE AGO.
WE THINK ABOUT, WE GET AN PUBLIC WORKS AND GAS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE GET POWER BILL FUNDING BASED OFF OF GAS TAX FOR THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA.
SO THE MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN IN STATE, NORTH CAROLINA, WE'RE GOING TO GET LESS GAS TAX, WHICH MEANS LESS REVENUE THAT WE HAVE TO IMPROVE OUR ROADS.
SO WHY WOULD WE NOT, I'M NOT ADVOCATING WITH GOUGING BUDDY, BUT WHY WOULD WE NOT SOMEHOW FACTOR THAT INTO THIS? UM, NOBODY IS, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
UM, NOBODY IS TRYING TO COLLECT, COLLECT ROAD TAXES ON THE SALE OF ELECTRIC OR CHARGING ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
WHETHER IT HAPPENS AT YOUR HOUSE.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER IT HAPPENS AT A LEVEL ONE CHARGER AT A, AT A PUBLIC REST STOP, OR IT HAPPENS AT OUR CHARGING STATION.
WHAT I DID PROVIDE IN THE RATE SCHEDULE WAS THE ABILITY TO COLLECT ALL CLICKABLE TAXES SO THAT IF THE STATE OR ANYBODY ELSE HAS SOME OTHER TAX, THEY WANT TO ADD ONTO THIS, WE CAN COLLECT IT AT THAT TIME.
SO THE RATE, THE RATE THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR SCHEDULE IS CHARLIE, IN, IN THIS, AS FAR AS RULES AND PROCEDURES, UM, MOST CITIES ARE PUTTING, UH, LIKE A 10 MINUTE GRACE PERIOD AFTER THE CHARGING IS COMPLETE.
AND IF THE 11TH MINUTE THEY CHARGED THEM LIKE 45, 7 A MINUTE, BECAUSE YOU GOT EIGHT CARS STACKED OUT THERE AND SOMEBODY HAS GONE THREE HOURS SHOPPING OR WALKING, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU, YES, IN THE RED SCHEDULE, I'M PROPOSING HAS WRITTEN IN A 17 CENTS PER MINUTE, A FEE TO BEGIN EFFECTIVE.
AFTER 10 MINUTES OF THE VITAL CHARGING.
AGAIN, THIS PARTICULAR STATION, THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS IT'S DESIGNED FOR A 30, 40 MINUTE CHARGE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PARK THERE OVERNIGHT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE YOU OVERNIGHT TO PARK.
UM, AND IT'S NOT A PARKING SPACE.
IF SOMEBODY'S PARKED THERE FOR A LONG TIME IN TERMS OF TIME AND NOT CHARGING, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT THAT.
SO, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY GET A 10 MINUTE GRACE PERIOD.
SO THEIR CARS FINISHED CHARGING.
THEY STAY THERE FOR AN HOUR, SO THEY GET A 10 MINUTE GRACE PERIOD.
SO THAT WORKS OUT TO BE EIGHT 50, $8 AND 50 CENTS.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE HIM? WHAT, WHAT WOULD, WHAT'S THE REVENUE LOSS ON AN HOUR OF ACTIVE CHARGING? IT DEPENDS ON WHAT RATE, HOW BIG THE BATTERY IS THE RATE THAT THEY CHARGE IT ON AN AVERAGE, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT ONE $30, UH, WELL, A FULL CHARGE AT 40 KILOWATT HOURS FOR HALF AN HOUR, YOU HAVE 30 BUCKS, 27 BUCKS.
IT DEPENDS ON HOW POPULAR IS GOING TO BE UNDER.
THIS IS A TEST, BUT IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY IS TAKING UP A CHARGING SPACE FOR AN HOUR AND WE HIT THEM WITH AN $8 AND 50 CENT INACTIVE CHARGE, WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE IS SITTING THERE THAT COULD SIT THERE AND ACTUALLY CHARGE THEIR CAR FOR $30, CORRECT.
TRIAL AND ERROR, I'M SAYING TRIAL AND ERROR.
SO I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING TO BE ANALYZING WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND IF YOU START TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE, THEN IT MIGHT BE RIGHT WITH ALDERMAN, UM, OLD, INSANE IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, NOT GOUGING THE PRICE, BUT PUTTING IT TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY LOSING.
AND TELL HER BY WHAT HE FOUND, LIKE IN YOUR RESEARCH THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO CONVERT THIS TO A GALLON GAS,
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YOU KNOW, LIKE $3, 15 CENT, AVERAGE GAS GOLFS, AND SOME OF YOU KNOW, IT FROM A DOLLAR 50 TO ABOUT FOUR 50 IS WHAT THE CONVERSION RATE WOULD BE AND KNOW WHERE IT'S LIKE, OBVIOUSLY AT THREE IN THE MORNING VERSUS SOMEBODY ON A PEAK DAY OF HUNDRED DEGREE TEMPERATURE TO COST US, YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE THAT IT'S A FLAT RATE OVER THERE, RIGHT? IT'S A, IT'S A RATE KILOWATT HOUR RATE.SOME OF THEM ARE DOWN 50 HOURS OR WHATEVER.
SO WHAT COMMENTS DO YOU HAVE ON THAT? WELL, YOU GET, YOU HAVE TO RECALL HOW WE BUY POWER AND IT'S BASED ON A CONTRACT AND IT'S BASED ON CERTAIN RULES AND THE WAY THEY MEASURE IT.
AND IDEALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO WHAT, TO LINE UP OUR, THE WAY WE SELL IT TO BE, UH, TO MIMIC THE WAY WE BUY IT.
AND THIS RATE STRUCTURE CLOSELY ALIGNS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH THE WAY WE PURCHASE IT.
I KNOW YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CHARGING STATIONS ACTUALLY, BECAUSE 24 HOURS A DAY, THEY HAVE CANOPY AND IT CAN'T BE, HAS PANELS ON IT.
THEY ACTUALLY KIND OF SOMEWHAT PRODUCE DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION AND THE DEMAND, IT KIND OF BREAKS EVEN ON THE RECHARGE.
IS THAT CORRECT? HAVE YOU BEEN TALKING ABOUT SOLAR PANELS ON CARS? WELL, NO.
IN THE CANOPY, THEY'LL PUT A CANOPY OVER THE CHARGING STATION AREA.
WHAT ELSE FOR GET, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME? I'M OPEN OVER PUBLIC HEARING ANYBODY LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS VERY INTERESTING ITEM.
UM, MY COMMENT STATEMENTS, UH, FROM THE PROGRAM TO THE ANTI-TRANS IN THE OTHER, YOU'RE MORE WELCOME TO COME UP.
MAY I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND MOTION, A SEGMENT CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION SEEING NONE? ALL IN FAVOR MOTION, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
WE ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH ELECTRIC RATE SCHEDULES FOR EVIE CHARGING STATIONS.
I HAVE A MOTION SAYING, IS THERE DISCUSSION, I'M STARTING WITH ALDERMAN EDITOR, OTTOMAN KANZI MAYOR.
ALDERMAN ASKED HER OTHER WOMAN HARRIS ALDERMAN DANGLE.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THE CHARGING STATIONS WILL OPEN TOMORROW MORNING.
ARE WE GOING TO BE ADVERTISING THAT THROUGH A TOURISM? LET THE VISIT NEWBURGH PEOPLE KNOW SO THEY CAN PUT IT OUT THERE FOR TOURISTS.
AND COLLEEN KELLY IS WORKING ON THAT, THAT PROCESS NOW.
SO YOU'RE GONNA START SEEING THINGS ALL OVER.
AND THEN THE FORCE, THE APP THAT CHARLOTTE WAS MENTIONING, THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE ADVERTISING THAT TO THOSE MOTORISTS WHO, WHO GO THROUGH THAT SERVICE.
[8. Consider Adopting a Resolution Authorizing City Manager to Execute a Letter Requesting Increased Funding from the NC Division of Water Infrastructure Clean Water State Revolving Fund (" CWSRF") for the Duffyfield Stormwater Enhancement Project.]
IS CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MANAGER TO EXECUTE A LETTER REQUESTING INCREASED FUNDING FROM THE NORTH CAROLINA DIVISION OF WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND FOR THE DUSTY FIELD STORM WATER ENHANCEMENT PROJECT.AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK AMANDA OWEN'S SON TO COME UP AND GIVE, GIVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THIS.
HI, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND BOARD.
UM, AS YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER THE CITY APPLIED FOR, UH, FUNDING THROUGH THE STATE REVOLVING LOAN PROGRAM.
WE ACTUALLY INITIALLY APPLIED IN THE SPRING OF 2020 FOR A SOD REFUND BEING, UM, UNDER A RESILIENCE PROGRAM THAT WAS UNFUNDED.
SO WE RESUBMITTED AN APPLICATION UNDER THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND IN FALL OF 2020 AND FOUND OUT IN MARCH OF 2021, THAT THE STATE WAS WILLING TO PROVIDE, UH, $855,000 TO THE DUFFY FIELD STORM WATER PROJECT.
WE INITIALLY APPLIED FOR PHASE ONE FUNDING BY MARCH OF 2021.
WE WERE ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR PHASE ONE.
SO THE UNDERSTANDING IN WORKING WITH THE DIVISION OF WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS THAT WE WOULD USE THAT FUNDING TOWARD PHASES TWO THROUGH FOUR OF THE PROJECT WITH AN INCREASED PROJECT COSTS.
WE WERE REQUIRED AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WE WERE RETAINED FOR THIS ON PROJECT WHERE THERE'S ROBIN.
NOW WHO'S WORKED WITH US TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED ENGINEERING REPORT AND ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION DOCUMENTS.
UH, WE SUBMITTED THOSE IN JULY OF 2021 AND RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM THE STATE, UM, IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
SO JUST, YOU KNOW, A MONTH AGO.
AND AS PART OF THAT REQUEST, UH, DWI HAS REQUESTED THAT THE CITY SEND A LETTER, UH, TO INCREASE THE FUNDING AMOUNT REQUEST FORMALLY, UM, FROM $855,000 TO THE ENTIRE ELIGIBLE PROJECT COST.
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ELIGIBLE PROJECT COSTS IS OUTLINED IN YOUR DOCUMENTS AND THAT'S 3 MILLION, $171.UH, THE TOTAL PROJECT COSTS FOR FAMOUS TWO THROUGH FOUR IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT UNDER THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM, THE PARK AMENITIES INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE COST.
UM, I PUT A CHART IN THERE TO KIND OF OUTLINE WHAT THE ELIGIBLE PROJECT COSTS ARE.
WE ALSO RECENTLY RECEIVED EEG FUNDING, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL ENHANCEMENT GRANT FUNDING THROUGH THE NORTH CAROLINA ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
SO WE HAVE DECREASE THAT GRANT AWARD OF $134,000, WHICH IS HOW WE CAME TO THAT $3.171 MILLION FIGURE.
UH, I'VE ALSO SHARED WITH YOU THE COST ESTIMATION THAT THE ENGINEERING REPORT PROVIDES, UM, AND AS WELL AS KIND OF A TIMELINE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT THIS LETTER BASICALLY IS JUST FOR PLANNING PURPOSES ON THE STATE, ENCOURAGES US TO CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY ANY AND ALL AVAILABLE FUNDING.
I WILL ALSO REMIND YOU THAT WE RECENTLY APPLIED TO A THEME AS BREAK PROGRAM, BUT BUILDING RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND IT IS, UM, THE SRF FUNDS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE AS THAT LOCAL NON-FEDERAL COST SHARE.
SO YOU'LL REMEMBER FROM OUR APPLICATION THAT I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT, UM, $1.4 MILLION OF A LOCAL MATCH THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THAT BRICK PROJECT WERE AWARDED.
AND THESE, UM, FUNDS COULD BE USED TOWARD THAT AS WELL AS ANY OTHER GRANT FUNDS.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE, IF BRICK WERE AWARDED, THE CITY MIGHT HAVE TO USE GENERAL FUNDS FOR THIS.
SO REALLY ALL THAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS PROVIDING THIS NUMBER TO THE STATE FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, WHERE THEY CAN BASICALLY SET ASIDE THOSE FUNDS FOR US.
WE CAN CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WE WILL KNOW WHETHER WE'VE BEEN AWARDED BRICK FUNDING.
WE WILL GO OUT FOR BID ON THE PROJECT TO HAVE THOSE EXACT COSTS.
AND THEN THE PROMISSORY NOTE WOULD COME FOR THE CITY TO THEN DETERMINE THE EXACT LOAN AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST.
SO, AMANDA, UM, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS ANY OF THE, UM, STORM WATER FUNDING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN OUR DISCUSSION TODAY? WOULD THAT BE ELIGIBLE TO BE USED IN THIS PROJECT? BECAUSE IF SO, I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BORROWING AND I ASSUME THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE STILL AT THE 0.1%, WHICH IS LIKE NOTHING.
UM, NOT HAVING TO PAY IT BACK AS A BETTER THAN HAVING TO PAY, RIGHT.
UM, FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THUS FAR, THAT MAY BE A POSSIBILITY BASICALLY WHAT THIS DOES AND SUBMITTING THIS LETTER AT THIS POINT IS GIVES US FLEXIBILITY SO WE CAN DETERMINE THE BEST USE OF FUNDS, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT AND OTHER PROJECTS.
I KNOW JORDAN AND GEORGE BOTH SAID, YOU KNOW, SOME PROJECTS MAY BE MORE COMPETITIVE FOR THESE FUNDING SOURCES.
WE ALSO HAVE RETAIN WEATHER'S RAVENEL AS OUR RESILIENCE CONSULTANT, THEY'RE WORKING ON US WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT BASICALLY THIS TRIGGER POINT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STATE REQUESTING THIS LETTER AS PART OF OUR FINAL SUBMITTAL OF THAT E R E I D DOCUMENT, UH, JUST WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY MOVING FORWARD, UM, TO KNOW KIND OF AS A WORST CASE SCENARIO THAT WE HAVE THIS FUNDING WHILE WE KIND OF DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE BEST, WHETHER WE CAN OBTAIN ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDING, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE AWARDED, UH, THE BRICK FUNDING.
SO REALLY IT JUST GIVES US FLEXIBILITY TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE OF WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION FOR THE CITY MOVING FORWARD.
SO AMANDA, NONE OF THESE, NONE OF THIS FUNDING, IF THIS INCREASE IN FUNDING THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THIS, UM, WHAT IS IT I JUST THOUGHT TO INCREASE IT, UM, FROM 855,000 UP TO THE, UM, 3.9, 2 MILLION THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO THAT PROJECT, THAT FUNDING WHAT'S YOUR, THE INCREASE THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ARP FUNDING, CORRECT.
THIS IS JUST STRICTLY THOSE CLEAN WATER SRF FUNDS UNDER, UH, AS A BRAIN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT.
SO YES, I DO WANT TO REITERATE THAT IT'S A 0.1 PER CENT, UH, LOAN.
SO BASICALLY THE TERM ON IT, HOW LONG.
SO, UM, THE STANDARD TERM WOULD BE 20 YEARS, UM, WITH THE OPTION POTENTIALLY IF WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT THE PROJECT HAS A USEFUL LIFE THAT IS LONGER, UH, WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE ELIGIBLE FOR A TERM OF UP TO 30 YEARS.
UM, AND I'VE, UH, DID SOME PRELIMINARY MATH ON WHAT
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THE ON REPAYMENT MAY LOOK LIKE, UH, USING A LOAN CALCULATOR, UM, WITH OUR CONSULTANT.SO IF WE WERE TO TAKE OUT THE ENTIRE 3 MILLION, 171,000 WITH A 20 YEAR TERM, THAT WOULD MAKE THE ANNUAL PRINCIPAL PAYMENT AROUND 158,500.
SO IN YEAR ONE, THAT TOTAL PAYMENT WOULD BE JUST UNDER $162,000.
IF YOU TOOK THAT SAME FULL AMOUNT OUT UNDER A 30 YEAR LOAN, THE ANNUAL PRINCIPAL PAYMENT WOULD BE AROUND, UM, $105,000 WITH A YEAR, ONE REPAYMENT OF JUST UNDER 1 0 9.
UM, IT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKELY THAT IF WE DIDN'T SECURE ANY OTHER FUNDING AND WANTED TO USE THIS AS A BRICK MATCH, THAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE 1 MILLION, $1 MILLION ON WITH A 20 YEAR TERM WOULD BE AN ANNUAL PRINCIPAL PAYMENT OF 33,333, WHICH WOULD BE IN YEAR ONE WOULD BE JUST OVER $34,000 AS AN ANNUAL PAYMENT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN ESTIMATION OF, OF WHAT WE POTENTIALLY COULD EXPECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE LOOSE FIGURES BASED ON, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CALCULATOR THAT'S PROVIDED, UH, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, GIVES CONFIDENCE THAT WE WOULD KNOW THAT AFTER WE ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO BID THE PROJECT AND WE WOULD WANT TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PROJECT THAT I WANT TO HAVE TO SEE, COME TO FRUITION ABOUT THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE IS THERE WITH THIS PROJECT ALREADY IN PLACE.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET Y'ALL GOING, YOU, YOU ARE GOING TO APPLY FOR GRANT MONEY FUNDING FROM THE STATE FOR THIS PROJECT, FOR THE NORTH HILLS.
ALONG WITH THIS PROJECT, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
THIS IS SET AND, UM, AWARDED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
UM, IT WOULD NEED TO BE RESUBMITTED AS A NEW APPLICATION UNDER ANY OF THE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, UM, THROUGH THE DIVISION OF WATER INFRASTRUCTURE OR OTHER FUNDS.
UM, SO ANY OTHER PRODUCT THAT WE CAN'T ADD IN A DIFFERENT SCOPE OF PROJECT TO THIS WORK, IT HAS TO BE FOR THE DUFFY FIELD PROJECT PHASES ONE, ROUTE FOUR.
UM, SO WE COULDN'T MOVE THESE FUNDS OVER TO ANOTHER PROJECT AT THIS TIME, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT REAPPLYING IN THE PICTURE FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
MAY I LET THEM MAKE IT EVEN REMEMBER HOW MANY QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION? I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A LETTER REQUESTING INCREASED FUNDING FOR THE, IN THE NORTH CAROLINA DIVISION OF WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND FOR THE DUFFY FIELD STORM WATER ENHANCEMENT PROJECTS.
DISCUSSION WITH ALDERMAN BINGO.
OH, THE WOMAN HARRIS ASKED HER.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE NUMBER NINE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
[10. Appointment(s).]
10 APPOINTMENTS OUT OF THE BINGO.I HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT TONIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT JOHN ME, ANNE, TO FILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM VACATED BY MICHAEL MARK.
HIM AT THE NEWBURN FIREMAN'S MUSEUM.
ANY DISCUSSION? UH, DO WE HAVE SEX AND MOTION SAYINGS OR DISCUSSION CNN ON FADER MOTION, SAY, AYE.
OUR WOMAN HAIRS MAY OR NOT TONIGHT.
AT THIS TIME, LET'S GET TO THE ATTORNEY'S REPORT.
[12. City Manager' s Report.]
AT THE LAST MEETING, THE BOARD CAUSED HER BUDGET RETREAT TO BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 11TH AT 12 NOON.THE AVAILABILITY OF THE LOCATION HAS BEEN DETERMINED AND IT'S NECESSARY FOR BOARD TO MAKE A NEW MOTION TO ESTABLISH THAT LOCATION FOR FEBRUARY 11TH, 12 NOON AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IN THE CONFERENCE ROOMS, ET CETERA.
IS THERE DISCUSSION SEEING NONE? ALL IN FAVOR MOTION, SAY, AYE, I'LL PUT WHATEVER SHE GOT, SIR.
NEXT TIME IT WAS IN OCTOBER, THE BOARD ADOPTED A RESOLUTION.
HE CLOSES SPECIFIC STREETS ON JANUARY 22ND FOR THE ANNUAL SHRINER'S WINTER CEREMONY PARADE THAT WAS CANCELED THIS PAST WEEKEND DUE TO THE WINTER STORM.
UH, SO THEY HAVE REQUESTED, UH, THE BOARD MAKE A MOTION TO ALLOW THE PREY TO BE HELD THIS SATURDAY, JANUARY 29TH, SAME
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STREET CLOSURES IN TIMES AS PREVIOUSLY.WOULD WE HAVE TO, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY CHANCE MAY OR THAT THEY WOULD, FIRST OF ALL, AND THEN IF THE WEATHER IS SUCH AGAIN, SO BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE A MEETING FOR TWO WEEKS, I DON'T THINK, I THINK THEY'RE, DON'T LIKE THE BEST SCAN.
I'LL LET MR. DAVIS CLEAN THING.
LEGALLY YOU'VE GOT ANY PROBLEMS WITH JUST, JUST A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT, MAKE A MOTION.
AND YOU SAID WE COULD JUST DO THAT BY POSTING THE MOTION, SAY, AYE, MOTION CARRIES.
THE NEWER POLICE DEPARTMENT STARTED THERE, NO ONE LIKES CHESS D UH, ACTIVITY THAT WAS LAST NIGHT, IT WAS HELD POLICE SUBSTATION.
AND, AND I WAS QUITE SURPRISED.
SHE TEXTED ME LAST NIGHT, HAD 24 PARTICIPANTS IN THE FIRST NIGHT.
SO IT WAS SO MANY THAT, THAT THEY REQUESTED TO GO FOR WEST OAKLAND RECREATION CENTER MOVING FORWARD.
SO I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO BE OVER THERE ON MONDAY NIGHTS FROM FIVE 30 TO 7:00 PM.
SO SHE'S IN PD GRADE, UH, WITH THAT PROGRAM.
COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON, UM, MARTIN AREA, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT TOMORROW, MARIETTA, LATELY, UH, NEW ENTRANCES IN PLACE, UH, THEIR, THEIR CURVES, THE MARTIN MARIETTA MAIN SIGN UP BOLT AT THE FRONT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT JUST PUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION SPEED LIMIT SIGNS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF UP.
UH, SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE WAITING ON A FEW MORE SIGNS FOR OUR DISPLAY BOARDS AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO HOLD A GRAND OPENING IN FEBRUARY.
UH, SO WE'LL PROBABLY SELL, SERVE HOT DOGS AND HAMBURGERS AND HAVE A BIG TRAIL WALK AND DO SOME OTHER NATURE ACTIVITIES OUT THERE.
SO, UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE, IT'S LOOKING REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
AND WHEN THE GROWING SEASON STARTS AND EVERYTHING'S GOING TO GREEN UP AND A LOT OF WILD FLOWERS, THEY'LL BE LIMITED AS WELL.
SO IT'S GONNA BE VERY NICE OUT THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS AS A MANAGER? YES.
CAN YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON THE WEST NEWBURN PLEASANT, NEWPORT, UM, PLEASANT HILL COMMUNITY CENTER.
I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR TODAY.
THEY ARE READY TO START DOING FOR ME.
THE SHELTER ITSELF IS COMING DOWN MOST LIKELY THE FIRST OF NEXT WEEK, UH, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR ON GETTING THE PERMITS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME ACTION VERY SOON ON THAT.
UH, WE KNOW THAT THEY WERE DELAYED ON STEEL VERSUS FOR QUITE A FEW MONTHS.
THEY, THEY ARE STILL TARGETED FOR, THEY'RE STILL COMING IN ON APRIL 1ST.
THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, GET EVERYTHING ELSE READY TO GO.
SO WE'LL START SEEING A LOT OF ACTION ON THAT PROJECT.
ANYBODY ELSE SAY, MAN, IT'S GOT A NEW BUSINESS,
[13. New Business.]
STARTED WITH OUR OWN ITEM ON NOT NICER ON THE BEST MACKENZIE.SO GOOD PERSON BY THE NAME OF ALAN TOLD ME HE USED TO DECORATE, TRY AND PALACE, UM, BUILT STORES.
UH, HE WAS QUITE TALENTED THAT MAY END IN THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, HE PASSED AWAY YESTERDAY.
I LIKED, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE TO KEEP HIS FAMILY AND PRAYER.
ALAN'S ALAN'S DAD MAKE HIM TELL HER WHAT THE CHIEF WAS CHIEF OF POLICE IN NEWBURGH BACK IN THE SIXTH.
UM, NO, I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, THANK THE STAFF FOR THE GREAT JOB AND, UH, KEEPING EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, UH, FREE FROM ICE AND SNOW, OR THEY DID A GOOD JOB IN GETTING EVERYTHING PUT BACK TOGETHER.
AND I THINK DOWNTOWN FARED FAIRLY WELL.
THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I REPRESENT, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS GOOD AND TRYING TO THE COMMUNICATION WAS EXCELLENT.
UM, RPI DID A GREAT JOB IN GETTING EVERYTHING OUT OF IT, OUT FOR THE CITIZENS.
SO I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR THAT.
AND, UH, WE ALSO HAD ANOTHER LOSS, UM, A LOCAL ARCHITECT, JERRY WALKER, WHO WE'VE ALL WORKED WITH, UH, PASSED AWAY SUDDENLY YESTERDAY ON SUNDAY.
SO I MEAN, SUCH A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL GUY AND HIS WIFE BETH OF COURSE SERVES ON OUR REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
SO I JUST WANT TO EXTEND MY DEEPEST SYMPATHIES TO THE WALKER FAMILY IN HIS VERY UNTIMELY PASSING AND REAL LOSS.
WHEN YOU AND THE SABRINA, WHEN YOU TOLD ME THAT, IT JUST MADE ME THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAW YOU OUT THERE, THAT CAR TABLE OVER THERE AT THE FIRE STATION, THE OLD FIRE STATION, AND, UM, NOBODY KNEW WHERE TO GO WITH IT.
AND JERRY AND BETH KINDA TOOK THAT THING AND STARTED THAT VISIONARY, CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF THE FIRE.
UM, YOU SEE HIM AND WERE WOUND UP.
I BELIEVE THE FUNERAL SERVICES WILL BE THURSDAY, IT'S COTTON, FUNERAL HOME.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DO GET THE INFORMATION, UM, ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS AT THIS TIME, UM, IF YOU SEE US RUNNER AND HE LIKE THIS ROUND
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PARADE, UH, IT'S AN INSTITUTION AROUND THE NEW BERN AND, UM, BETWEEN THE FLOOD SEVERAL YEARS AGO.AND COVID, UM, JUST LIKE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BEEN A TRYING TIME FOR THE SHRINE.
THERE'LL BE HERE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
AND, UH, THE USUAL SHRINER'S PRICE, IF YOU SEE A SHRINER AND YOU LIKE, AND APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, TELL THEM THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A HISTORICAL, VERY IMPORTANT THING.
EVERY JANUARY, JUST SHRINERS COME TO TOWN AND SABRINA THIS YEAR, THEY GOT LIKE 50 ROOMS. UH, THERE WERE YEARS WHEN FOUR, WE GOT HOTELS THAT HAVE SHRINERS TO, TO BE ABLE TO COME TO NEWBURGH.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOCK IN MORGAN CITY ELSEWHERE TO GET A RIM BECAUSE THERE JUST WEREN'T ENOUGH ROOMS AND DIFFERENT SITE.
UM, TOWNS WAS TRYING TO APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UH, AT THIS TIME.
[14. Closed Session.]
DO WE NEED A CLOSED SESSION? YES.WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT TO MATTERS WITH YOU PERCENT TO 1 43, 3 11 8, 3 TO MAINTAIN OUR ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE SHOULD THE 1 43, 10, 11, 8 5 TO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY TO 1 43, 3 20 11, 8, 4 TO DISCUSS A POTENTIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION? AND SECOND, IS THERE DISCUSSION .