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[1. 6:00pm: Welcome and Roll Call]
COMMISSION MEETING THIS EVENING.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SACRIFICE AND FOR YOUR TIME.
AND HE LOOKED FORWARD TO INPUT AND ALL THE, THE FINISHING ITEMS THAT WE HAVE WORKED THE NIGHTS AND THE AGENDA.
I'M GOING TO ASK HIM IF HE CAN CALL IN TONIGHT.
THE THING THAT COMMISSIONER JOE I'M HERE.
MR. MORGAN, MR. STRICKLAND HERE, DIFFERENT TRIP.
MR. WALKER, MAKE YOUR WALLET, MR. YELL HERE, LADY HERE, AND EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS.
ALDERMAN'S VANGO HERE OF MY BEST ALDERMAN TERRORISTS.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS WORD TO ACKNOWLEDGE BETH WALKER AND HER TRAGEDY, AND, UM, SEE IF WE MIGHT, COULD SEND SOME FLOWERS OR SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO FOR HER DURING THIS PERIOD OF MOURNING.
SO I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
FOR EVERYONE THAT DON'T KNOW, UM, I FELLOW COMMISSION MEMBERS, UH, HUSBAND PASSED 70, AND SO HE'S MEMORIAL IS THIRSTY AT ONE AT UNION FOR CHURCH OR TRIPLE.
UM, AND I KNOW HAVE WORKED WITH HIM.
I WORKED WITH HIM WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH THE CITY OR EVEN VERY HIGH, VERY, VERY, VERY GREAT ARCHITECTS TO WORK WITH.
AND, UM, GIVEN WHAT SHE SAID, I GUESS WE CAN JUST DIRECT STAFF TO THE STAFF AND I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT AFTER MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS WHAT SHE WAS SUFFERING FROM, WHATEVER SOME ACKNOWLEDGED ALSO I THINK, UM, UM, UH, STAFF'S HUSBAND HAS PASSED AWAY.
AND SO, UM, UH, WE CERTAINLY CAN, I'LL START IT OFF PAST PRESENT FUTURE EQUALS TIME AND WE'LL GO THIS WAY.
RESPECT OTHER'S OPINIONS, LISTEN TO BELOW CONSENSUS, SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION, PUBLIC PERCEPTION, STAY FOCUSED, BE ACTION ORIENTED.
I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY BELIEVE AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT TIME IS LIMITED TO FOUR MINUTES.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK TO ME? OKAY.
[3. Approve Minutes from the 12/08/2021 Redevelopment Commission Meetings]
OUR MINUTES FROM SIMILAR, UM, EIGHT.YOU RECEIVED THEM ANY CORRECTIONS DELETIONS, IF NOT, IF YOU CAN GET THE MINISTRY
[4. Adopt Resolution Authorizing the Exchange of Real Property]
OR REAL PROPERTY, PROBABLY.UH, SO WE HAVE FINALIZED THE REQUIREMENTS TO INITIATE TRADE.
WE MISSED THE NEW CAR COMMISSION, POSTED A NEWSPAPER FOR STATUTES AND TONIGHT, WHICH IS EXECUTING THE AGREEMENT.
UH, THE RESOLUTION HAS BEEN CHANGED
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AND SO VOTE ON THAT.IF ANYONE, ANY CLARIFICATION PULL UP MAPS, I CAN DO SO.
YOU MENTIONED THE CHANGE IN THE RESOLUTION, UM, COMMISSIONER VICE CHAIR, PARANOID TURNED OUT A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR AND THE COPY OF THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS CIRCULATED TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR HAS BEEN CORRECTED, NOTHING AS IT RELATES TO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE PRESENTATION HAS CHANGED.
THEN WE ENDED UP WITH GENERAL WARRANTY OR NOT WORKING.
THE COMMISSION WILL CONVEY A NON-WARRANTY.
THE COMMISSION WILL RECEIVE A GOTCHA.
SINCE WE HAVE SO MUCH PUBLIC, SHOULD WE MAYBE PUT IT UP ON THE BOARD OR MAYBE SHOW A PICTURE OF THE SPOTS? ARE WE GOOD? IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH KNOWING WHERE IT'S AT AND WHAT WE'RE SWAPPING FOR? OKAY.
MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION PROPERTY.
QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION.
I JUST, I JUST TEXTED HIM EXCEPT HE WAS RUNNING BEHIND.
HE FIGURED THERE HE WAS SECOND ON THE AGENDA.
SO IF YOU WANT TO, UH, THERE IS A CORRECTION UNDER THE ACTION REQUIRED.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED THAT IT SAYS ACTION REQUIRED IS THAT WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE PARCEL LOCATED AT 5 0 6 DARCY.
THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE AT 1106 BROAD, CORRECT? MR. DEER.
SO THAT WAS INCORRECT ON THE AGENDA.
UM, IF IT'S BY CONSENSUS, IF WE CAN MOVE TO COMMITTEE UPDATES, IF HE'S ON HIS WAY AND HE CAN MOVE TO COMMITTEE UPDATES OBJECTS, ANY OBJECTION TO THE PERMISSION IF WE JUST MOVE TO COMMITTEE UPDATES.
UM, DO YOU HAVE, COULD WE GET, MAYBE WE WOULD THERE'S ANY NATIVE FOOD UPDATE CHAMPION.
[5. Request from Kurtis Stewart to Recommend the Board of Alderman initiate the upset bid process for 1106 Broad Street (PID 88-012-A-325)]
ITEM REQUEST RECOMMENDED PROCESS FOR 1106.UH, LAST WEEKEND WE HAVE CHANGED THE AGENDA.
YOU MAKE NOTE, MAKE NOTE, YOU MAKE THAT OKAY.
THAT MADE A CHANGE IN, IN THE MINUTES AND STAFF.
WELL, A PROCESS I'M SET UP AT THIS POINT.
YOU ARE BEING ASKED, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO GIVE PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION, SHARING ANY INFORMATION THAT WISH COMMISSION THEN MAKES A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHETHER THEY SUPPORT, UH, PROJECT AND, UH, AND INITIATE THE SURPLUS BID PROCESS.
UH, WELL, I PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY HERE PROBABLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH SOME, UH, FOUNDATION, UH, UH, SHORT TO SITUATIONS.
WE'VE GOTTEN A TAKEN CARE OF WITH A LOCAL ENGINEER HERE, UH, HAVE GETTING THAT INFORMATION OVER TO, UH, WE'VE GOT THAT INFORMATION OVER TO, UH, MATT.
UH, WE'RE ON THE SECOND LEVEL OF THE HOUSE AND JUST FINISHED THAT, UH, TELL HIM MY, MY PURPOSE AND, AND THE PROPERTY WOULD BE A MIXED USES.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ZONE FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT WOULD PROBABLY BE AN OFFICE SPACE.
UM, AND THEN SOME RESIDENTIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE, UM, IT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION?
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SO THIS PROPERTY THAT IS, THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS BETWEEN TWO STRUCTURES THAT ARE STANDING CORRECT.AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR ANOTHER STRUCTURE TO BE BUILT BETWEEN THOSE EXISTING TWO STRUCTURES.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GO ON RECORD AND ADD, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF SHORT HISTORY IF I COULD, JUST TO THE LAST THREE YEARS.
SO TO SPEAK, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS COMMISSION WAS FOUNDED WAS BECAUSE THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA HAD DEEMED ITSELF AND FOUND ITSELF AS BEING BLINDED.
SINCE THAT TIME, THERE WERE THREE EYESORES THAT WERE IN THE COMMUNITY, ONE BEING COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS LOCATED ON BROAD STREET, ONE BEING RESIDENTIAL AT 12, 15 MAIN STREET.
AND OF COURSE THIS PARCEL RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER, WHICH IS 1102 BROAD STREET.
UM, THOSE THREE PIECES OF PROPERTY HAD BEEN PURCHASED BY MR. STEWART.
AND HE HAS GIVEN US BUY-IN TO WHAT OUR GOAL IS.
NUMBER ONE, TO BRING BUSINESS BACK INTO THE FIVE POINTS AREA, TAKE HOUSING THAT IS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, TAKE IT, TURN IT AND HAVE IT TO BE VIABLE TO WHERE IT CAN BE RENTED, WHICH IS WHAT HE'S DONE AT 12, 15 MAIN STREET AND TAKING THEM ONE OF THE BIGGEST EYESORES ON THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE HERE AND 1,102 BROAD STREET.
AND AS YOU SEE WHERE THAT RUST HAS GOTTEN ALL OVER THAT ROOF, THAT IS ALL BEING RE REPLACED AND WORK IS BEING DONE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO GO ON RECORD AS SAYING PUBLICLY, THANK YOU, MR. STEWART, FOR THE BODY AND, AND FOR HELPING THEM THIS COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE SOME GOALS.
ANY OTHER, JUST A COUPLE OF TECHNICAL, UM, POINTS TO ELIMINATE THAT STRUCK THE PARCEL THAT YOU'RE ASKING THE COMMISSION AND IF NEED BE THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN IS CONSIDERED, IS THE VACANT PARTIAL BETWEEN THE TWO STRUCTURES ON THE SCREEN? IS THAT RIGHT? AND WHAT IS YOUR INTENDED USE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL? SO, YOU KNOW, I NEVER KNOW.
I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE.
AND THEN IT HAS SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WHETHER IT'S PARKING, WHETHER IT'S JUST OTHER YARD SPACE, UH, IT WAS KINDA MY INTENT TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL THAT KIND OF CORNERS IS REALLY WHAT I NEED TO DO.
IT'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON THERE, BUT I THINK THAT MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS SOME DIFFERENT ADDITIONAL YARD SPACE, POTENTIALLY SOME PARKING FOR THAT PLACE.
WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT, WE HAVE TWO, TWO CAR GARAGES THERE, UH, THAT I THINK WOULD BE SUFFICIENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE ADDITIONAL SPACE JUST IN CASE I WOULDN'T HAVE.
SO YOU HAVE FOUR PARKING SPACES ON THE PROCESS THAT YOU OWN NOW? CORRECT.
UM, AND IF YOU'RE BUILDING, DO YOU KNOW, OR IS THERE ANY QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER IT'S 1102 BROAD STREET ENCROACHES ON 1106? YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT IT.
I HAVEN'T HAD IT SURVEYED, UH, LOOKING AT THE GIS, UH, PRIOR TO PURCHASING IT.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS KIND OF IN THAT LOT, BUT I'M NOT SURE I HAVEN'T HAD A SURVEY.
UM, JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT ON THE INTENDED USE, YOU SAID YOU'RE STILL KIND OF OPEN, THEY'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.
UM, COULD YOU EVER NOTICE THE NAME THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOUSE? YEAH.
UM, SO IT WOULDN'T BE AN INVESTMENT FOR THE NONPROFIT OR THE VA FUNCTIONING.
I GOT THIS QUESTION YESTERDAY.
AND, UH, IT'S INTERESTING YOU SAY THAT, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME AND MY BACKGROUND.
SO MY BACKGROUND IS HUMAN HUMAN SERVICES AND I OPERATE IN DURHAM COUNTY FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.
UH, WE HAVE AN MOU WITH THE, UH, THE, UH, THE GOVERNMENT, UH, THE LOCAL JUDICIAL SYSTEM IN NORTH CAROLINA STATE COUNCIL FOR WOMEN.
UH, WE HAVE DONE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SEX OFFENDER, ANGER MANAGEMENT.
FOR SOME TIME, THERE WAS AN MOU THAT CAME OUT.
THERE WAS AN RFP THAT CAME OUT FOR THE NORTH CAROLINA COUNCIL OF WOMEN PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
AND, UH, CRAVEN COUNTY WAS ONE OF THE COUNTIES THAT DID NOT HAVE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROVIDER.
UM, ONE OF MY INTERESTS INITIALLY WAS TO HAVE AN OFFICE SPACE THERE.
UM, THE QUESTION IS NOT GOING TO BE YESTERDAY, I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S DOING THE FACT CONDUIT FOR THIS REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION THAT I WAS GOING TO PUT A SEX OFFENDER HOUSE THERE.
I HAVE NO INTEREST IN THAT WE DON'T HOUSE ANY SEX OFFENDERS AT ALL.
WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM IN DURHAM COUNTY WHERE WE SERVICE SOME OF THEM.
I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME FAILED ATTEMPTS HERE BY SOME OTHER INDIVIDUALS.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO FOLLOW THOSE FOOTSTEPS.
UH, AND IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE US ANY MONEY OUT OF YOUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
SO MY INITIAL THOUGHT WOULD BE AN OFFICE SPACE.
UH, IN FACT, I'M SUPPOSED TO GET WITH MATT NEXT WEEK.
HE MENTIONED TO ME THAT THE OFFICE THAT CAME
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DOWN WITH COVID, SO HE WAS A LITTLE FAR BEHIND, BUT EVEN WHEN HE COMES IN AND HE'LL KIND OF SEE HOW THE WALLS ARE PUT UP.BUT AGAIN, MY, MY INITIAL THOUGHTS ON THAT RIGHT-HAND SIDE, WHICH I CALL A, A B THREE OFFICE SPACES, THEY'RE POTENTIALLY TRUE.
CAROL, HAVING AN OFFICE THERE ALSO OPERATE THE OMEGA CENTER, WHICH IS ABOUT 15,000 SQUARE FOOT.
SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING AS FAR AS GROUPS WERE CONCERNED, WE WOULD PROBABLY DO IT THERE.
UM, BUT THERE'S NO INTENTION TO HIRE GAME PLAN TO HOUSE, ANY SEX OFFENDERS THAT ALSO, UH, THOUGHT ABOUT AIRBNB WROTE ABOUT BED AND BREAKFAST THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU GET ABOVE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND, UM, AND THAT TYPE OF SPACE, YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME DIFFERENT CODE AND SPRINKLER SYSTEM KIND OF THINGS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO DO THAT YET, BUT, UM, INITIALLY PROBABLY SOME AIRBNB STUFF ON THE, ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, UM, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE APARTMENT DOWNSTAIRS OR ONE BEDROOM DON'T KNOW YET, BUT I'M LEANING MORE TOWARDS, UH, ONCE I MEET WITH MATT NEXT WEEK, I KNOW WHAT I CAN DO ON THAT SECOND FLOOR, WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST ME TO DO IT.
UH, BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOME RESIDENTIAL I NEED TO TURN OFF.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, NOBODY INTIMATED ME IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT, THE SEX OFFENDER.
SO THINGS I'M PURELY JUST LOOKING AT THE NAME AND THEN GOOGLE AND OTHER WEBSITES.
SO KIND OF CONNECTING DOTS ON THAT FIGURE, FIGURE WITH SOME DILIGENCE TO ASK.
OH, NO, NO, NO, NO, I, I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I DEFINITELY GOT THE QUESTION, ASKED HIM YESTERDAY.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR AGAIN, MY BACKGROUND IS IN HUMAN SERVICES AND WE DO OPERATE A FACILITY THERE.
UH, WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO CRAVEN COUNTY FOR PARTICULARLY THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROPORTIONATE.
I AM MORE SO, YOU KNOW, FOLKS KIND OF DO THE HOMEWORK WHERE I'M LOCATED AT.
IS THERE ANY WAY, WHAT DOES THIS PROPERLY, THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZOLA? UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? UH, CURRENTLY IT'S SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TO DUPLEX MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCE, SHORT-TERM RENTAL SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHOLE FAMILY.
UH, YOU NEED A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR, UH, HOMELESS FOR HANDICAP, UH, BOARDING ROOM, HOT ROOMING HOUSES, ESPECIALLY PERMIT, ESPECIALLY PERMIT FOR ELDERLY.
HOUSING IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR HOTEL AND MOTEL, BED AND BREAKFAST.
UH, NURSING CARE HOME, UH, CHILDCARE HOME, UH, HOT ON TRAFFIC, NORTH CAROLINA, JOSEE STANDARD, UH, AND A BIG SHOT, UH, GOVERNMENTAL, UH, AUGUST BUILDING SUPPORT SERVICES, UH, AND OFFICE CLINICS FOR POSITIONS INTO THIS THING COULD DROP THROUGH WINDOW.
SO WAS ONLY QUITE A BIT, AGAIN THAT DOESN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GOOD FOR US, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT BUILDING BLOCKS AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MY CONVERSATION WITH MATT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT LOOKING AT THE SIZE OF THE LAWN.
I SUSPECT THAT BLOG WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROPERTY AND IT WAS SPLIT OFF IT SOMETIME, ACTUALLY THAT WAS THAT A BUILDING CURRENTLY SITS ON TWO LOTS, WHICH IS 1102 AND 1104 BROAD STREET.
THERE WAS A HOUSE IN BETWEEN THE VACANT LOT IS, WHICH WAS 1106, WHICH WAS THE HILL, THE HILL HOMESTEAD, UH, BACK IN, BACK IN OUR TIME OF GROWING UP AND THAT HOUSE WAS TORN DOWN AND THERE WAS JUST NOT ENOUGH SPACE LEGALLY TO PUT ANOTHER DWELLING THERE.
I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THAT AS SMALL AS IT IS THAT HAD BEEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROP PARCEL AND AT SOME POINT SPLIT OFF FROM GOOD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. STEWART? I GUESS SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1106, CORRECT? IS THAT YEAH.
WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, IF, IF AGAIN, IF WE DID DECIDE TO KINDA USE SOME MOSTLY OFFENDING RESIDENTS THERE, I JUST FELT LIKE PARKING WOULD PROBABLY COME UP.
I OBVIOUSLY REALIZE WHAT WE HAVE ON SITE THERE.
UM, IT'S KIND OF A SECURITY MEASURE FOR US.
AND THEN I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
I HAVEN'T CHECKED IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING HELPFUL.
THE FIRST INQUIRY AS, AS HAS BEEN A PROCESS FOR THESE TYPES OF REQUESTS
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IS FOR THIS, THIS COMMISSION TO DETERMINE WHETHER A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS ANY USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR BOT, UM, GIVEN ITS SIZE, ITS LOCATION, TOPOGRAPHY, ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FACTORS.AND IF YOU DECIDE THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE USE FOR THE LOT, THEN YOU MOVE TO THE SECOND INQUIRY AS TO WHETHER MR. STEWART'S FORECASTED USE WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE REDEVELOPMENT.
AND I GUESS KIND OF BASED ON THAT, THAT SECOND POINT THAT YOU JUST MADE, DO WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION OF SOME SORT TO HAVE A MORE NAILED DOWN ON LINE PLAN OF WHAT WE USE IS, UH, I THINK AT LEAST WHAT HAS BEEN THE EXPERIENCE IN THIS PROCESS, UM, OFTEN PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING THESE TYPES OF INQUIRIES ARE IN THE BEGINNING PHASES OF DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT HAS BEEN THE CASE THAT THAT PERSON CAN FORECAST A TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT OR A TYPE OF USE THAT ONE'S GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
AND TO INLINE WITH THREE DEVELOPMENT TYPE MEMBERS IS MORE PRODUCT, BUDGET, AND PLAN.
THEN YOU CAN DETERMINE THAT THAT'S SUFFICIENT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THEM, BUT THE BOND FOR THAT INITIAL PLAN, ONCE WE KIND OF GIVE OUR OPINION ON OUR AUDITS DONE, NO, THE ONLY WAY TO FIND A USAGE OF REAL PROPERTY WOULD BE FOR THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO CONVEY THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND COUNTY, BOTH GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO CONVEY THE PROPERTY TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND THE REDEVELOPMENT COULD PUT COVENANTS OR CONDITIONS ON THAT USAGE, BUT AT THIS STAGE IN THE PROCEDURE, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO TO FIND INDIVIDUALLY.
UM, HOW DOES HOTLINE, IS IT ANOTHER, UH, OCCURRENCE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE KIND OF IN PLACE FOR THAT, OR INITIALLY KIND OF ON THE TABLE THAT WERE TO BE ALL DEEDED OVER THAT ARE KIND OF HELD UP IN THAT PROCESS OF NOT BEING ABLE TO VIEW THAT WE'VE SINCE NARROWED IT DOWN AND HAD THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY PERTINENT TO WHAT WE CAN DEVELOP IN, BUT JUST KIND OF WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS ANOTHER ONE KIND OF GOING OFF THE BOOKS WITH SMALL VOLUME AND SCALE, SOMETHING THAT YOU, OR DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PROPERTIES? SURE.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN SOME COMMUNICATION WITH CRAVEN COUNTY AND THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO BEGIN CONVEYING LOTS TO THE COMMISSION.
WHAT THEY HAVE ASKED AT THIS STAGE.
THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO CONVEY ALL OF THEIR INTEREST IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
THEY'VE ASKED THIS COMMISSION TO SELECT 10 PARCELS THAT ARE MOSTLY FOR DEVELOPMENT IN A RELATIVELY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND TO MAKE THOSE SUGGESTIONS TO THE COUNTY, UM, ABOUT WHAT PARCELS WE WANT, WHAT OUR INTENDED USE MIGHT BE IN A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE OBJECTIVES.
AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE PARTICULAR 10 LOTS BEING CONVEYED SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
AND THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WE CAN GO BACK AND ASK FOR THERE'S 40 LOTS.
SO WE CAN GO BACK BASICALLY FOUR TIMES TO ASK FOR 10 LOCKS EACH TIME THEY ARE CONCERNED.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXAMPLE WAS.
THEY GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THEY, UH, RELEASED RELINQUISHED THE PROPERTY TOO.
SO IT WAS ANOTHER NON-PROFIT ANOTHER NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION AND THEY NEVER DID ANYTHING AND THEY HAD TO END UP TAKING IT BACK AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DO.
AND YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, I WILL SAY THAT AGAIN, IF IT'S NOT SUITED TO BUILD ON WHICH IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, WE CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING, THE CITIES, THEN WE'RE RESPONSIBLE TO MOW IT, KEEP IT UP, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, IF WE HAVE, UH, SOMEONE EVEN AT A, A HALF INTEREST TO PAY FOR IT, TAKE THAT OVER THE CITY'S WILLING TO LET SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT CAN'T BE USED FOR CONSTRUCTIVE PURPOSE AS FAR AS BUILDING, WHICH IS ONE OF YOUR, YOUR CORE VALUES OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, OFFERING SOME SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT MR. STEWART HAS SHOWN GOOD FAITH AND HE HAS EFFORT TO START TO RECONSTRUCT THE STRUCTURE.
AND THAT IN ITSELF IS MEETS SOME OF OUR CORE GOALS.
AND I THINK IF WE HAVE A LOT THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE OF ANY USE TO ANYBODY ELSE.
AND IF WE CAN SUPPORT THAT EFFORT, THAT IT'S, UH, IT'S, UH, WOULD BE A PROPER FUNCTION OF THIS COMMISSION.
DOES MR. STEWART NEED THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO CONTINUE HIS WORK AND GETTING HIS YES.
WE ONLY HAVE THE PERMITS FOR LIKE DEMO.
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OKAY.WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN ANY KIND OF INTERIOR USE TYPE HARMLESS OR ANYTHING.
WELL, TO BE CLEAR, WE WAS ASKED BY YOUR OFFICE, SARAH WAS THAT WE'VE GOT A GENERAL CONTRACT.
AND SO HE'S PULLED THE PERMIT TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
AGAIN, WE HAVE APARTMENT FOR DEMO ON THE FRONT OF THE FOUNDATION.
AND, AND WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THE DAY THAT, THAT IF WE IDENTIFIED THAT AS ONE OF THE PARCELS THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE CONVEYED TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, WE CAN THEN CONVEY IT TO MR. STORE WITH SOME CONDITIONS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MAKES DEEM APPROPRIATE TO APPLY TO IT, WHICH WE CAN'T DO.
NOW, IF WE JUST TURN IT OVER TO THE, TO THE CITY, FOR INSTANCE, THAT THE PARCEL IS CAN ONLY BE USED FOR PARKING OR GREEN SPACE, WHICH AGAIN WOULD BE WITHIN THE CONFINES, ESPECIALLY THE GREEN SPACE, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UH, OH, POTENTIALLY.
UM, HE COULD ADD TO THE HOUSE AND STILL HAVE THE SETBACKS.
IT WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, IF HE WANTED TO ENLARGE A PART OF THE HOUSE THAT WOULD, I'M NOT SAYING THAT HE WOULD DO, BUT THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE ANOTHER CASE.
WELL, I MEAN, IF WE, IF WE DEEMED THAT THE VEHICLE, WE WOULD BE IN CONTROL OF THE BAN TO THE PROPERTY, WHICH WE'RE NOT UNDER THE CURRENT, UH, YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
BECAUSE THE CITY, THE CITY CAN'T DO THAT.
SO WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US, WE GET THE CONDITIONS, RIGHT.
AND IT ALSO GOES TO AN UPSET BID PROCESS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S OUR STANDARD, OUR STANDARD POLICY.
AND I GUESS WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT CONTROL OVER WHAT SOMEONE ELSE PURCHASES, I LOOK BACK AT THE LOCATION, WHICH IS NOW BROAD STREET TAKEOUT, WHICH WAS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
AND IT IS NOW A THRIVING RESTAURANT THAT WAS VACANT FOR SEVEN TO 10 YEARS MAYBE.
AND IT WAS JUST PRETTY MUCH WASTING AWAY.
AND THERE WAS NOTHING IN THAT PARTICULAR BLOCK THAT HAD A RESTAURANT, A GRILL, A TAKEOUT OF ANYTHING THAT WAS SERVICING THAT AREA.
AND NOW IT HAS BECOME MORE THAN JUST A LUNCH AREA.
IT HAS BECOME A FRIEND OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND I GUESS WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT CONTROL, THERE WAS NO ONE THAT HAD ANY CONTROL OVER WHAT WAS GOING ON.
THEY'RE ACCEPTED, WASTING AWAY.
AND I SEE WHERE MR. STEWART CAME IN AND SAW A NICHE AND SAW A NEED.
AND IT WAS FOR MORE THAN JUST PROFIT, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE I DO KNOW OF SOME ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE TAKEN THEIR, I'M NOT GOING TO TOOT HIS HORN FOR HIM, BUT IT HAS PROVED ITSELF TO BE A FRIEND OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS MORE SO OF WHAT WE NEED.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT INSTEAD OF US TYING HIS HANDS, THAT WE WOULD GIVE HIM A HAND AND ASSIST THEM AS MUCH AS WE COULD.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE USAGE, BUT THE WORD CONTROL KIND OF GIVES ME SOME CONCERN.
WELL, IF YOU HAVE CONCERN OVER USES, THEN YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT IN SOME WAY.
AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO THAT IS, IS WITH JAMIE EXPLAINED THAT, THAT YOU HAVE DEED RESTRICTIONS OR WHATEVER IS THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD CONTROL THAT.
IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE ISSUES IT'S, IT'S DONE ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF WHETHER WE WANT TO DO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OR NOT.
WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS THE CONCERN ABOUT THE USAGE IS ZONED FOR OCCUR QUITE A, QUITE A BIT.
SO WHAT IS THE CONCERN ABOUT THAT USES, LET ME FINISH WITH THE COMMISSIONERS FIRST.
WHY NOT? I, CAN I MAKE A POINT, ONE OTHER THING I JUST NOTICED, YOU KNOW, WE DID THE DAR STABBING YOU TWO MEETINGS AGO OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NO CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, WE WERE TOLD WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS KIND OF DEBATE AND THAT'S SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO BUILD SUPPOSEDLY A HOME OR BUILD A NEW BUILDING ON THAT.
AND THAT'S IN THE UPSET BID PROCESS RIGHT NOW, THE BOARD VOTED RATE, BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION APPROVED, IT WENT TO THE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOR SOMETHING, THIS IS AN IOTA OF WHAT THAT OTHER PARCEL WAS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT LONG TERM OF THIS COMMISSION.
NOT, NOT FOCUSING ON IS TAKE THEIR PIECE OF PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY THAT'S THE OTHER THING I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IS IF WE HAVE THAT, IF THE COUNTY IS GOING TO GIVE US 10 BLOCKS OR PIECES OF PROPERTY, THAT AT A TIME THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE BEFORE WE GIVE ANY MORE, SEE THAT
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WE DID SOMETHING WITH THOSE 10.AND IF WE COULD GET THAT IN THAT LIST, AND THEN WE COULD CONVEY IT OUT TO MR. STEWART.
AND WHAT I'M NOT SAYING IS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO, I'M NOT WILLING TO SELL THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THAT IT'S ALSO, IT SHOWS A WIN IN TERMS OF THE TACTICAL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THEN YOU CAN GO ON FROM THERE AND IT'S ACTIVITY COMING IN, GENERATED TO MEET A NEED FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO GO BACK AND GET MORE PROPERTY FROM THE COUNTY THAT WE CAN USE BOTH FROM THE COMMISSION, MR. STEWART, F YOU SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN, I'M A PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD PERSON.
UH, SOMETIMES THAT GETS ME IN TROUBLE OR SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, UM, I'VE TAKEN A COUPLE OF PERSONAL ATTACKS FROM SOMEONE, SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HERE, UH, COMMENTS BOTHERS ME.
UM, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY SOPHISTICATED YOUNG MAN.
I COME FROM VERY HUMBLE BEGINNINGS.
I SAT IN HIS ROOM LAST WEEK, ABOUT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO.
AND I WATCHED THE SITUATION AS SIMILAR TO MINE, UH, WITH NO PLAN.
I HOPE YOU GUYS DO THE RIGHT THING.
AND, UH, I HAVE A GOOD PORTFOLIO OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND ANOTHER COUNTY.
I WALKED INTO A ROOM THERE AND DEAL WITH DEVELOPMENT AND SERVICES THERE.
I THINK ROBIN MADE A GOOD POINT.
UM, THESE PEOPLE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.
I HAVE OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ON THAT STREET.
UH, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO TO TOO MUCH, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT.
UM, I DON'T LIKE TO BE TARGETED.
UH, I DON'T LIKE TO BE HARASSED AND I DON'T LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT'S TAKING PLACE, UH, WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM.
AND I FEEL LIKE, UM, A PROBLEMATIC, UM, I'VE DONE OKAY FOR MYSELF.
UM, I DO HAVE COUNSEL, UH, AND I, I, I LOOKED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN I WAS HERE AND I WATCH THE REDEVELOPMENT, THE BATEMAN OFFICER COME UP HERE AND DO A PRESENTATION WITH ANOTHER YOUNG LADY, UH, IN REGARDS TO A PROPERTY.
AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY, THEY HAD NO PLAN.
I AM AGAIN, OVER A HALF, A MILLION DOLLARS ON THIS BLOCK.
UM, AND THIS IS VERY FRUSTRATING AND I'M A WIN REGARDLESS.
WHAT'D YOU SELL IT TO ME OR NOT.
I'LL KEEP MOVING, BUT I'M JUST A LITTLE FRUSTRATED AND SOME OF THE THINGS OVER HERE AND YOU HERE, THE CONTROL STATEMENT, UM, AGAIN, I GO TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, UH, OTHER CITIES, NOT FROM THERE.
THESE PEOPLE WANT YOU TO COME IN AND SPEND YOUR MONEY HERE.
UH, I GET, I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO BE FAIR.
UH, YOU GUYS, YOUR JOB IS TO REDEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPED, AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S SUCH A DIFFICULT THING SOMETIMES.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHO MR. OR U S BOSSES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU GUYS GOT TO BE FAIR TO PEOPLE.
DON'T TARGET FOLKS TREAT PEOPLE, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW.
UH, AND I, AND I WATCH A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND I SAID TO MYSELF, WHY WOULD THE ABATEMENT OFFICER BE DOING A PRESENTATION OR A CITIZEN? YOU GUYS WENT AHEAD AND DID IT.
WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION TO ME? AND I'M OVER A HALF, A MILLION DOLLARS ON THIS.
I'VE DONE WHAT I SET UP, NOTHING.
AND THEN I OPENED A RESTAURANT.
I BOUGHT SOMETHING IN THE FLOOD ZONE AND I DIDN'T HAVE HALF AS MANY PROBLEMS IF I'M HANGING OUT WITH THIS PARK.
WELL, THIS HOUSE I HAD THIS GENTLEMAN I'LL GIVE, I'M GOING TO JUST MAKE I'M STRAIGHTFORWARD.
USE IT AGAINST ME IF YOU WANT TO OR NOT.
I HAD THIS GENTLEMAN TELL ME THAT I RAN UP PAPER AD ABOUT THIS.
I'M SEEING THIS GENTLEMAN JUST TEXTED THAT.
I DON'T LIKE STUFF LIKE THAT, GUYS.
ALL I'M SAYING IS BE FAIR TO PEOPLE AND DON'T DO THAT.
THAT'S NOT, WE HEAR YOU MR. STEWART.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHO YOU ARE AND LET US LET US KNOW.
AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO MY POINT WOULD BE, I WOULD APPRECIATE WHETHER YOU, FOR YOU GUYS TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT, UH, AS YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST, UH, I DON'T, SOME OF THE WORDS YOU GOT UNDER THE CITY IS JUST KIND OF IN TROUBLE.
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SO I'LL JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU.I JUST, DON'T, I'M BEING HONEST WITH YOU.
WE FINALLY FOUND SOME, UM, CONDITION.
SOMEBODY WILL MAKE UP A BOLT ONE MINUTE AND SEE IF IT GOES UP OR DOWN.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, UM, BACKGROUND HEARD FROM MR. STEWART.
EVERYBODY HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
AND SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A LOTION, BUT THE PROPER VERBIAGE TO BE ABLE TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO MR. CURTIS STORE.
SO MR. MORGAN, I THINK YOUR MOTION IS MOVED TO ADMISSION TO MAKE IT TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO YES.
TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO INITIATE THE UPSET.
BE IT FOR THE PROCESS FOR 1106 BROAD STREET.
QUESTION ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR.
CAN WE GET A HANDFUL PLEASE? MOTION CARRIES.
THANK YOU, MR. STEWART, WE DO NEED TO SEND A LETTER NOTE OR ANYTHING YOU WANT MARK TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
AND IF YOU WOULD JUST SEND THE COMMISSION, UM, A COPY OF THE AGENDA.
CAN I MAKE ONE SUGGESTIONS BEFORE, LIKE JUST IT'S RELATED, BUT I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT WAS, THOSE ARE VALID POINTS, RIGHT? SO WE FEEL IT, THE FAIRNESS OF HOW WE APPROACH, YOU KNOW, THIS PROCESS.
AND SO SHOULD THERE BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, PEOPLE WILL WANT, WANNA, YOU KNOW, UM, PURSUE UPSET THE PROCESS.
I MEAN, IS THERE ANY WAY TO STANDARDIZE THAT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE PREPARED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
WELL, WE HAVE, UH, REMEMBER THE HOUSING, OUR WORKING GROUP HAD BEEN WORKING ON, THEY HAD PUT FORTH SOME, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT FIVE TO SIX BULLETS FOR AS TO HOW WE'LL BE GOING ON, UM, TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, THE PURCHASE.
AND YOU SAY, SO IT'S IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE MAYBE TO US AT SOME POINT IN ORDER TO BE SOLD AGAIN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
UM, CERTAINLY IF OTHER CITIZEN BOARDS HAD POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, WHICH LAY OUT HOW THEY DEAL WITH CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW.
AND IF YOU, AS A COMMISSION WANTED TO, UM, THINK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE REOCCURRING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU FACED AND WANT TO ARTICULATE A POLICY OR PROCEDURE, THEN THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE.
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ALL RIGHT.UM, WE UPDATE SO NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS WERE UP TO EIGHT AND 10 CARS AND CLIMBING DON'T HAVE THE BADEN NUMBERS, JUST HAD SOME STATS ON THE ACT THAT'S AND COVID, SO WE'RE GOING TO DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE PROPERTIES ARE CLEANER AND YOU SEE PEOPLE OUT.
IT REALLY IS AMAZING, BUT I'M STILL WORKING ON THE, WORKING ON THE CARS.
AND, UH, I'M REALLY GOOD WITH THAT.
WELL, THERE ARE TOUR GOT CANCELED LAST WEEKEND, OUR WORKING GROUP TOUR, UH, HOPEFULLY WE WILL THAT, UH, IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE SO THAT WE CAN ALL COME UP TO SNUFF WITH REALITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE, YEAH, SO THE JONES HOUSE HAS BEEN REMOVED.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE FESTUS, BATEMAN AND REMOVAL ON MILES ON FIRST STREET.
YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSE ON GAS AND IT'S GOT SOME BEAMS UNDER IT, AT LEAST TAKES US FOREVER TO GET ANYBODY WHEN YOU WORK OUT THERE, BUT
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IT'S GOING IN A SNAIL'S PACE.UM, AND IT, THIS POINT IN TIME, SO OUR NEXT STEP WILL BE, WE'LL BE REMOVING THE STRUCTURES, UH, FROM THE FIRST PARCEL, UM, TALKING TO LEON, HE'S HAVING PROBLEMS, GETTING AN ARCHITECT ENGAGED IN HIS DESIGN, UM, THE ISSUES THEY'RE HAVING IN PHILLY, BUT HOPEFULLY HAVE SOMETHING ON THIS AND MANAGER.
IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE HOUSING SUB WORKING GROUP, UM, TO GET TOGETHER AND COLLABORATE, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND TO THE 10 MONTHS.
UM, AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AND ADOPTED BY THE GROUP AT THE NEXT WEEK, IF THAT'S ENOUGH TIME.
YEAH, I SAW ABOUT SHEER RIGHTNESS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE TOUR AGAIN IS FOR THE OFFICER, OUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE FEBRUARY 24TH.
AND SO THAT'S THE SATURDAY BEFORE THAT IS THE 19TH.
SO, UH, IF YOU COULD LOOK INTO THE 19TH, UM, SEE IF THAT WOULDN'T WORK, IF YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING MAJOR GOING ON, SEE IF WE COULD, UM, RECREATION PARKS.
I WASN'T, IF WE COULD DO AT THAT TIME, DON'T WANT TO DO AGAIN.
UM, WELL IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING EVERY SINGLE SATURDAY IN FEBRUARY PROBLEM.
I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REACH IT.
IS IT OKAY TO COME MEAN? DOES THIS URGENT VOCALLY WAIT UNTIL, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WARMS UP A LITTLE BIT AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T, WHAT IS THE THOUGHT? WELL, I'M TRYING TO GET THE, UM, STRATEGIC PLAN, TRY TO GET IT DONE, AND HE'S NOT GOING TO DO IT WITHOUT THE TWO BOARDS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I CAN CONTINUE TO PUT IT OFF YOU, YOU KNOW, UM, POLICY PROCEDURES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
JUST TAKE A BACK DOOR AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE OKAY.
SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE REASON TO GET SOME THINGS, TO LOOK AT SOME THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF IT FROM THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, DAD WOULD, UH, PUT US INTO MARCH, WHICH IS MARCH 23RD, I THINK IN 2024.
SO I'LL BE MARCH 19TH FOR THE 2, 10, 18.
MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION THERE THOUGH, WHAT WAS THE FEBRUARY DATE? THE 24TH.
WHAT WAS THAT? BUT WHY DID WE LEAVE UP TO MEDICINE? THAT'S THE BLACK HISTORY PARADE.
AND THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK WAS THE FEBRUARY, UH, UH, COMMISSION MEETS.
SO WE, 24 BEFORE WE HAD TO MEET, DISCUSS.
SO WITH THAT MARCH 19TH MEETING, UM, WE NEEDED TIME AND A PLACE.
IN JANUARY AT TWO O'CLOCK WAS TO, AT TWO, TWO O'CLOCK ON MARCH THE 19TH IN THE FIRST PLACE WE WERE GOING IS GOOD FOR YOUR SCREEN.
SO THERE'S MARCH THE 19TH AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MOVIE WHERE YOU GUYS TOLD ME WHAT WERE YOU? OH, YOU DON'T WANT TO BREAK INTO YOUR DAY.
I JUST WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING.
I MEAN, IT JUST HIT ME LIKE TWO O'CLOCK LATER.
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NO PROBLEM.O'CLOCK GOING TO LAST, HOW LONG WAS THE DURATION? THEY GOT US 10 TO 12.
IT'S JUST GOOD TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE'RE COMING BACK HERE.
DID YOU GET ALL OF THAT? YEAH.
SO JUST TO INTERPRET FOR THE RECORD, WHAT I THINK HAPPENED WAS MR. PERIGORD, WAS HE THE ONE THAT MADE THE MOTION? MR. PEAR BOY HAS RECONSIDERED HIS MOTION AND HE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND HIS MOTION.
IS THAT CORRECT? MS. PERRY POOLING.
SO MR. WANTS TO AMEND HIS MOTION.
DEVIL'S SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON MARCH 19TH TO BEGIN AT 10:00 AM VERSUS TWO.
AND THE SECOND WAS MR. MORGAN COMMENTS.
HIS SECOND, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.
IT WAS ALL BUILT ON THE CONCEPT OF MEETING MARCH 24TH.
I THINK YOU SAID, DID I MISS OUR CALENDAR GETTING CHANGED? WE DO THE SECOND WEDNESDAY, WE JUMP BACK TO THE FOURTH, SO I JUMPED TO THE COURT HERE.
SO WHAT'S, UM, CLOSE ON MARCH THE 9TH OF MARCH.
IT'S ALWAYS THE SECOND TUESDAY.
SO THAT'S THE FIFTH THAT'D BE MARCH.
WHAT IS THAT A SATURDAY? I DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR.
AGAIN, IT'D BE MARS FIELD FOR MARQUIS.
CAN YOU IMAGINE ONE MORE TIME? UM, BUT I WON'T BE AROUND.
SO IS THIS THE CHARACTER BOY? IS THAT YOUR EMOTION? MR. PERRY BOY IS TOO.
CAUSE YOU'VE RECONSIDERED AGAIN.
UM, MARCH THE FIFTH SPECIAL CALL MEETING MARCH THE FIFTH AT 10:00 AM TO BEGIN AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
YES, MA'AM MR. MORGAN, IS THAT YOUR AMENDED SECOND? OKAY.
WE HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
SO THE FINAL ONE IS YOU GOT THE 10 ON THE FIFTH ON THE FIFTH, THIRD, 2:00 AM.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS GOING ON, BUT I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON ONE TODAY.
SO WE, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UM,
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YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND WHAT THE POTENTIALLY POINTING, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.WELL, I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED AS AN FQHC, UM, AND THE CNI AND THAT'S WHAT WE CARRY OVER FOR A PLAN.
SO WE MET ON JANUARY 13TH AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WITH DR.
WHO'S THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR AND CHARLIE AND, UM, JOHN AND MYSELF.
AND SO WE SAT DOWN AND HAD A CONVERSATION, UM, BASED, UM, CONVERSATIONS THAT HE'S HAD WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, SCOTT HARRISON, UM, IN DECEMBER, UM, WHICH HE HAD RELAYED TO JOHN AND I, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE MEETINGS.
SO WE SAT DOWN TO KIND OF CLARIFY, UM, WHAT HIS THOUGHTS WERE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
FISHER WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT EXIST, RIGHT? THAT WOULD BE OUR PARTNER AS MENTIONED IN THE PHONE.
UM, IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH ENTITY AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE WITH THE HEALTH, THE CENTER AS A SATELLITE.
SO, UM, FOR THE CRAVEN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD POSSIBLY GET SOME FUNDING FOR PROGRAMMING THAT WAY.
UM, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO HAVE TRANSPORTATION AND SHUTTLE, UM, FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO HELP THEM ON THE CENTER, UM, WHEN IT'S LOCATED HERE AND THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, UM, AND THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT HAVE TO KIND OF BE A FORCE, UM, DISCUSSED, BUT THESE ARE JUST Y YOU KNOW, RECREATE THE WHEEL, UM, WHEN WE HAVE A LARGE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WITH MULTIPLE PROGRAMS THERE.
UM, SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE PERSPECTIVE, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT WOULD BE IN OUR COMMUNITY HELPING ON THE CENTER? WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S FOCUS.
WE WANT TO BE ON, UH, SCREENINGS PREVENTION, UM, CHRONIC DISEASE MANAGEMENT, NUTRITION, CULINARY MEDICINE CLASSES, UM, CHRONIC DISEASE, EDUCATION, PREVENTATIVE HEALTH SCREENINGS, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH THERAPISTS, MEASURING, UM, COORDINATION OF RESOURCES AND TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, BEING IT WOULD BE CENTRALIZED, RIGHT.
UM, SO PEOPLE HAVE A PLACE WHEN THEY COME IN, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO KIND OF ADDRESS OR ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY COULD BE, UM, SENT, UM, COMMUNITY HEALTH PROVIDERS OF COLOR.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN THE CONVERSATION.
FISHER'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I TOOK THESE, I TOOK NOTES AND THINGS THAT HE HAD SAID.
SO HIS VISION IS SO SYNERGIZE ALL THE EXISTING PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE AND THINGS THAT WE'VE CREATED EITHER WITH LOCAL, UM, THE LOCAL HEALTHCARE, UM, HOSPITAL, UM, AGENCIES, UNIVERSITY CLINIC, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, AND THEN HOW CAN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PROVIDE A BETTER SERVICE TO US, UM, WITH THIS SATELLITE TYPE OF VISION? UM, HE WAS VERY, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT COMMUNITY VISION, UM, BEING PART OF WHAT WE PUT THERE, HAVING STRONG COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, UH, PROGRAMS AND PLANNING.
UM, HE FELT THAT THERE'S NOT A COMMUNITY INPUT.
UM, THE SITE WILL BE UNDERUTILIZED AND, UM, THERE SHOULD BE PLANS FOR VISIT VISIONING SESSIONS AND WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS, WHAT WOULD BE THE GOAL, UM, OF FORCE TO EMPOWER THE POPULATION AND SELF CARE, THE EDUCATION AND PREVENTION.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, LEARNING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON AGAIN, UM, CHRONIC DISEASE MANAGEMENT WITH A FOCUS AND JOHN CAN SPEAK MORE INTO THAT.
BOUCHER BY A NONPROFIT BOARD OF LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, OF COURSE, EVENTUALLY WE COULD HAVE CLINICAL CARE THERE.
WE HADN'T REALLY CROSSED THAT BRIDGE YET.
AND AGAIN, CENTRALIZING RESOURCES, EXAMPLE OF SOCIAL SERVICES, CASE MANAGEMENT, UM, COMMUNITY HEALTH NURSES, UM, ET CETERA, AND MENTORING.
SO AT THE END OF THIS WHOLE MEETING WAS A GREAT MEETING.
WE TALKED A LOT AND HE POSES QUESTIONS.
SO I HIGHLIGHTED IT IN MY REPORT.
HE POSED THE QUESTION OF CAN THE, UM, HEALTH ONE WITH CENTRAL POTENTIALLY BE PLACED OR INCLUDED, DESIGNED AT THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER.
SO THAT WAS REALLY TOWARDS THE END OF OUR CONVERSATION.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE LEFT THINKING THAT WASN'T PART OF OUR PLAN INITIALLY, BUT OF COURSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PURSUE IT.
SO, UM, CHAIRMAN LEE HAD SENT OUT AN EMAIL, SHE HAD INCLUDED, UM, ALDERMAN, UM, BENGAL, UM, AND SHE'LL, YOU KNOW, SHE CAN SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, ONCE I'VE FINISHED, I'M ALMOST FINISHED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE ALL HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, JOHN AND I WERE QUITE EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THAT.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO ALMOST A YEAR AGO.
UM, MR. RUGERI AND MYSELF ACTUALLY HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT STANLEY WHITE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FATE OF SAILING WHITE WAS REALLY UNKNOWN.
THERE WAS A LOT OF UNKNOWNS AT THAT POINT.
SO WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SHIFTED TO WHAT WAS AVAILABLE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GOT THE MCCOTTER HOUSE IN AUGUST, THAT SEEMED LIKE A VERY REASONABLE PLACE.
SO THIS HAPPENED TO COME UP, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH STANLEY, WHY AM I GOING TO GET INTO THAT? BUT THE, UM, THE FLOOR PLAN DOES MENTION HAVING A HEALTH SCREENING ROOM AND AN OFFICE AND KITCHENS, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MEDIA LAB THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT.
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AGAIN THAT WE'D HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO STUDY AND OF COURSE HAVE MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHILE AFTER THAT MEETING, DR.FISHER HAD SENT ME AN ARTICLE AND I COPIED THE LINK.
I'M HOPING THAT WE COULD SEND IT TO YOU GUYS, BUT, UM, IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, HOW, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION AS COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS HUBS.
SO THIS IS NOT AN UNKNOWN CONCEPT.
I MEAN, THIS IS BEING DONE AROUND THE COUNTRY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY HUBS SERVE AS A GATEWAY TO THE COMMUNITY AND ARE ESSENTIAL.
AND, UM, I'M JUST GONNA JUST DO A COUPLE OF ADULT POINTS FROM THE ARTICLE, BUT THEY SHOWCASE THE RANGE OF SERVICES AVAILABLE AND COMMUNE COMMUNITY THEREBY RESULTING IN EASY TO FIND COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
AGAIN, RESOURCES WILL BE CENTRALIZED, UM, PROVIDE YEAR ROUND OR POP-UP SERVICES AND ACCESSIBLE LOCATION, OR ALTERNATIVELY SERVE AS A REFERRAL POINT FOR SERVICES.
AGAIN, YOU'RE HAVING A RECREATION CENTER, PEOPLE ARE COMING AND GOING, IT'S GOING TO BE VIBRANT.
UM, AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT PROGRAMMING, EITHER BE CONSISTENT.
WE CAN HAVE VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AS WELL.
UM, IT CAN SERVE AS A GATHERING PLACE FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND VISITORS, UM, AND WHICH HAS RESULTED IN IMPROVED COMMUNITY CONNECTEDNESS AND INCLUSION.
AGAIN, THIS IS EVIDENCE-BASED.
AND WITHIN THIS, UM, THIS PLANNERS GATHERING SPACE, UM, IT PROMOTES RESULTS DRIVEN, MULTI-SECTOR PARTNERSHIPS, THE COMMUNITY BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE BUILDING ON THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'VE ALREADY CREATED AND LOOKING TO CREATE NEW ONES AND ALSO TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY, AFFORDABILITY, AND SUSTAINABILITY OF COMMUNITY SERVICES FROM THE POOLING OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT TO UNDER RESOURCED AND UNDER SERVED COMMUNITIES.
SO, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND I'M GONNA LET ALTERNATIVE AND WE'LL SPEAK TO SO MANY INFORMATION THAT SHE MIGHT HAVE.
SO AFTER I RECEIVED THAT EMAIL, UM, I SET UP A MEETING WITH FALSTER AND, UM, TALKED TO HIM ABOUT HIS THOUGHTS ABOUT, UM, INCLUDING THESE CONCEPTS.
SO WHAT MARIA HAS, AND WE CAN SEND IS A CONCEPT PLAN FOR STANLEY WHITE.
SO NOTHING'S IN STONE, WE'VE HIRED THE ARCHITECT, THEY HAD BEEN HIRED, THEY'VE STARTED WORK AND FOSTER SAYING, THIS IS THE TIME, THE PERFECT TIMING FOR US TO ENGAGE AND GET IN THERE SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IN THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE CONCEPT CAME FROM THE CONSULTANTS, LOOKING AT CNI PLUS COMMUTE, THEY HAD SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
THERE WAS A STANLEY WHITE RECREATION BEYOND THAT COMMITTEE, DEADLY WHITE RECREATION COMMITTEE, AGAIN, WHO HAD INPUT TO DETERMINE THESE WERE THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY IN THIS, UH, CENTER.
SO AS MARIA SAID, THERE IS A HEALTH AND WELLNESS SCREENING ROOM IN THEIR KITCHEN, A MEDIA ROOM, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE USED IN PROGRAM AS SUCH.
AND OF COURSE THEY WOULD BE STAFF THERE THEN TO DESIGN EXERCISE PROGRAMS. AND THERE'LL BE A TWO STORY BUILDING.
THE SECOND FLOOR WILL HAVE A WALKING TRACK.
SO AGAIN, IT PROVIDES WALKABILITY FOR PEOPLE AND ALL KINDS OF WEATHER CAN BE INSIDE.
THERE'LL BE CONNECTED CONNECTIVITY TO HENDERSON PARK, WHICH AGAIN, WALKING PATHS, OTHER RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT IS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING DIABETES, HEART, UH, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, OTHER THINGS TO LEARN HOW TO MANAGE THOSE IN A SAFE SPACE.
SO, UH, THIS, THIS WOULD WORK ALSO, UM, I'VE STARTED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, RCS WHO, UH, WOULD BE WILLING TO LOOK AT PARTNERING WITH THEIR KITCHEN, EVEN ON A, UH, BASIS, YOU KNOW, STARTING NOW, UH, THEIR COMMERCIAL KITCHEN TO START DOING SOME EDUCATIONAL CLASSES FOR COOKING AND WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THEY ATTACK HEALTHY COOKING OPTIONS CAUSE THEIR KITCHENS PRETTY MUCH SIT EMPTY FROM AFTER LUNCH ON SO THEY COULD POTENTIALLY USE THAT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR PARTNERSHIP.
MARIA'S FORMING THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WITH, UM, THE, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENT WITH CCHC, I BELIEVE THE HOSPITAL.
SO THAT COULD BE THAT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH.
SO WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW THAT IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THIS, UM, MARIA AND FOSTER CAN GET TOGETHER, OR THIS GROUP, YOUR HEALTH AND WELLNESS GROUP, AND START WORKING WITH ARCHITECTS FOR SOME IBS TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK ALL THIS AND GET TO MEET THE NEEDS OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN IT, HEALTH AND WELLNESS PORTION OF THE OVERALL RECREATION COLUMN.
AND I MENTIONED ALDRIN MANUAL THAT ENTERED JOHN AT NAUSEUM.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET OUR ASSESSMENTS DONE.
I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE A PERFECT PLATFORM.
UM, YOU KNOW, TO AGAIN, USE IT TO GET WE, WE WORKED BACKWARDS AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE, I KNOW I SAID ALWAYS DEFENSIVE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO ENGAGE PEOPLE DURING A PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE WORKING ON ANOTHER,
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UM, PROGRAM, UH, APRIL FAMILIES WITH THE NORTH CAROLINA EXTENSION.AND WE REALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF COVID RIGHT.
I MEAN, ORGANIZATIONS HAVE RESTRICTIONS AND WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF THAT.
SO, UM, I JUST, I, I REALLY THINK THAT THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY IN THIS IS ESSENTIAL, UM, ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH MEETING WITH US AND WITH US, YOU KNOW, AS A GROUP, UM, IN THE, IN THE OF A HUB IN DALLAS, TEXAS, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THEY ADDRESS MULTIPLE CHRONIC CONDITIONS THAT DIVERSITY AFFECT HEALTH.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE NUTRITION CLASSES.
UM, IT WAS REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, FALLOW FOR YEARS UNTIL THEY KIND OF ADOPTED THIS CONCEPT.
NOW WE HAVE 5,500 COMMUNITY RESIDENTS HAVE BECOME MEMBERS AND PARTICIPATED, BUT THE ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME, UM, AND THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS AT BIBLE STUDY.
SO WE CAN BEGIN TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, MENTAL HEALTH, SPIRITUAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ENTIRE TIME, THIS COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH, UM, AND WHAT THEY HAD, WHICH I LOVE IS THE, THEY OFFER AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, UM, THROUGH WHICH 178 STUDENTS EXPLORING PUBLIC HEALTH CAREERS HAVE BEEN TRAINED IN NUTRITION AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
AND I MEAN, THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT I KNOW THAT DR. FISHER AND JOHN AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IS TO ENCOURAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUNGER GEN AND I CAN MAKE THIS INTERGENERATIONAL WHERE WE CAN REALLY HAVE ACCESS TO YOUNG FAMILIES AND, AND INSPIRED THEM, YOU KNOW, TO MAYBE GET INTO HEALTH EDUCATION, CAREERS.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S UNDERREPRESENTED HERE AND WE NEED THAT CULTURAL COMPETENCY.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE LONG TERM, BUT SOMETIMES I THOUGHT ABOUT GIVING ME TO SAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE WAY I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IS THAT WHATEVER IS THE COMMUNITY BASE AND COMMUNITY DIRECTED, AND IT'S GOT TO BE SUSTAINABLE.
WHAT MAKES ALL OF THESE THINGS WORK FOR ME IS THAT THE HEALTH IN THE BEGINNING, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO BE THE LEADER.
THEY ALREADY HAVE PROGRAMS GOING AND I, AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS, IS GOING TO BE STANDARD IN WHITE AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S COMMUNITY BASED AND COMMUNITY DIRECTED.
AND SO WHATEVER PROGRAMS ARE DEVELOPED WILL FIT INTO THAT CONCEPT AT STANDARD WHITE, MUCH BETTER THAN ANY OTHER FACILITY THAT WE COULD COULD THINK ABOUT.
AND, UH, AND WE ARE ONLY IN THE GROUND FOR IT STANDING WIPES.
SO, AND I THINK ALL PARKS AND RECREATION, PEOPLE ARE LEANING IN THIS DIRECTION.
THEY'RE COMING LESS FOCUSED ON BASKETBALL AND FOOTBALL IS A SPREADING IT OUT TO THE FOLK COMMUNITY.
SO IT IT'S EXCITING TO ME TO THINK ABOUT IT.
WE HAD THIS CHANCE, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER ONE ASSET THEY WANT TO PUT IN HERE, AND I'M STILL TRYING TO DEAL WITH IT IS GAMING.
THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE RECREATIONAL SPORT RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY'LL HAVE A GAMING ROOM AND AREA WHERE THEY CAN GAIN RECREATION.
YOU TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THE WELLNESS CLINIC TYPE OF THING, AND THERE YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT MY BOSS THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND CORPORATELY, AND THEN WITHIN THE STANLEY WHITE HERE.
SO WE CAN MAKE THE CLARIFICATION.
UM, AS I SAID AT THE MEETING WITH DR.
FISHER, UM, IN OUR PLAN, IT SAYS THE BLOOMFIELD HOUSE, AND I SAID, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING A PLAN A AND A PLAN B UM, RECREATION CENTERS THAT HAVE SET IN BEAUTIFUL BROWN COMMUNITIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE EXACT SAME THING.
NOT, NO FAT CITY IS NOT NO FANCY THAT THEY JUST BEEN THERE.
IT JUST LIKE EVERYTHING HAPPENED AT STANDARD WHITE.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT A GRANT FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, JAMIE AND ALL THEM TO COME.
WE HAD BIBLE STUDY THERE, WE HAD EXERCISE.
SO IT'S NO DIFFERENT, I MEAN, IT'S NO DIFFERENT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, AS I TOLD THEM, THAT WAS NOT IN OUR PURVIEW.
IT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT HAD TO BE HAD WITH CITY MANAGER AND ADMINISTRATION.
AND THAT'S WHY I SENT OUT THE EMAIL BECAUSE I WANTED EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS HAD, THAT THAT WAS SAID, AND THAT PEOPLE WOULD, UH, MAKE SURE SO THAT IT WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT I WOULD COMMISSION WOULDN'T, UH, NO TO THAT.
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HAVE THAT CONVERSATION FIRST BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT IDEA, LIKE I SAID, BUT THEN THE PLAN B, IT SAYS AND THE CONDITION NEEDED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION BEFORE YOU JUST SAY THAT, EVEN THOUGH THOSE THINGS GOING TO BE, SEE YOU TO MAKE IT WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TO MAKE IT TRANSPARENT TO EVERYBODY THAT WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE, YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE HEALTHY WELLNESS IS A PART OF THE COMMISSION.IT'S NOT A COMMISSION BY ITSELF, JUST LIKE THE HOUSING GROUP IS NOT A COMMISSION BY ITSELF.
NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT A COMMISSION BY ITSELF, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS A CONDITIONAL ONE, ONE AND A ONE AND OUR STAFF, UM, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.
AND SO THAT'S EVEN, UM, WHEN I SAW HER REPORT AND ACTUALLY IT NEEDS TO BE SENT TO EVERYBODY TO GET JEFF, TO SEND IT TO EVERYBODY.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, THAT WE ADD TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
WE COULDN'T JUST SAY, OKAY, AUTOMATICALLY WE WILL CHANGE IT TODAY, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVEN'T THOSE THINGS OVER THERE.
AND IT'S A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, HE WAS THERE, IT WAS THERE BEFORE AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE MORE, YOU KNOW, TEXTURE TECHNOLOGIES SOUND.
HE WOULD SAY THAT TONIGHT, BUT ANYWAY, SO NOW BY SHIT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN AFTER CHRISTMAS SHOULD WALK, I THINK, EXCUSE ME, I THINK THAT THE CHAIRMAN SAW ME ABOUT A DIME SHIFT AND, UH, GET RID TO GET RIGHT IN TO IT.
SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT.
UM, BEFORE I DID GIVE MY, I HAVE ACTUALLY TWO SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS TO BE A PART OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
UM, I GREW UP IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY SET UP THAT THAT WAS STANLEY WHITE.
AND I ALSO KNOW, UH, THAT THAT WAS THE SAFE HAVEN AND THERE WAS ENOUGH GOING ON THERE, THERE WAS ENOUGH GOING ON THERE.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT TIME, DIFFERENT TAPE TECHNOLOGY WITH A LARGER BUILDING, WITH A LOT MORE SPACE, A LOT MORE COMING AND GOING A LOT MORE INTERACTIVENESS.
AND YOU WILL DRAW IN A LOT OF YOU AND YOU WILL DRAW IN A LOT OF THE ELDERLY BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON AT STANLEY WHITE THAN JUST BASKETBALL PLAYING THEN JUST A LITTLE KIDS RUNNING AROUND.
THERE WAS A CERAMICS PROGRAM THERE FOR THE ELDERLY THAT WAS DENVER SURPASSED ANY OTHER IN THE STATE.
AND I CAN GUARANTEE THAT, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT IN THAT HOLE, DOWN ON BLOOMFIELD STREET, WHICH IS IN THE HEART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, WHICH ALSO JUST HAPPENS TO BE DEAF AND FIELD AND DODGE CITY, I'LL CALL IT LIKE IT IS THAT THAT IS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE MOST NEEDED.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE MOST NEEDED THERE BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE.
A LOT OF PLACES UP ON STANDARD WHITE THIRD AVENUE, KENNISON PARK.
THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED WALKING DISTANCE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SEE WALKING TRAFFIC.
WHEN YOU SEE WALKING TRAFFIC IS FROM CEDAR STREET OR ONE UP TO K STREET.
YOU HAVE ONE WAY STREETS AND YOU DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS, BUT YOU WILL SEE MORE WALKING TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
THEN YOU WILL SEE IN ANY OTHER PART OF DUFFY FIELD, IT WOULD HAVE WITH THE SIDEWALKS.
SO THAT'S WHY I LEAN MORE SO TOWARDS THAT AREA THAT USE MOST OF THE HABITED BY RESIDENTIALS AND IT'S WALKING TRAFFIC, AND YOU WILL SEE THE ELDERLY WALKING AND IT'S A SAFE HAVEN.
WE HAVE A STORE NOW THAT HAS COME STOOD THE TEST OF TIME, MR. TERRY HOLLOWAY.
HE'S MADE IT VERY WARM AND HE IS A FRIEND OF THE COMMUNITY AND IT WOULD BE RIGHT THERE IN THAT AREA.
AND I KNOW HE WOULD WORK VERY, VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH HAVING IT CLOSER TO WHERE HE IS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE OTHER THING TOO IS, IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I REDEVELOPMENT AREA WE NEVER DID A RESOURCE FAIR OR A HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
THE PEOPLE FROM OVER THERE COME OVER HERE AND WE, IF IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEY GO OVER, GO OVER THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WOULD BENEFIT BOTH WOULD BENEFIT THE ENTIRE ENTIRE AREA.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
MR. WALLACE IS THE APPREHENSION
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IN WESTERN VIRGINIA IS THE, WHAT IS THE APPREHENSION IN WEST VIRGINIA? EVERYTHING I'VE THIS YEAR THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE PUT INSTEAD OF THE WAY, IS IT IN WEST VIRGINIA? UM, WHEN I, WHEN I WORKED THERE FOR YEARS, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD MC WE HAD EXERCISE PROGRAMS, OF COURSE, WITH THIS NEW BUILDING, IT WON'T BE THE SAME BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE AN INDOOR WALKING TRACK.YOU DON'T HAVE THAT AT WEST NEWBURN YOU'LL YOU WILL HAVE MORE AMENITIES IN THIS NEW ONE, JUST BECAUSE THE SPACE IS TWICE AS MUCH WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT, WHEN WESTON NEWBURN AND STANLEY WHITE WERE BUILT, THEY WERE IDENTICAL IN SIZE.
AND THEY GOT AN UPSIDE UPSTAIRS WALK AND TRY TO GET A LOT WITH THAT.
THE TWO NEWS, UH, SYSTEMS THEY HAVE UP THERE PRETTY MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THERE'S THE HEALTH PORTION OF SERVICES IS NOT LOCATED ON THAT SIDE.
UM, THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WAS AFRAID OF WHEN WE MOVED HERE FROM OUTSIDE, FROM INSIDE OF WHERE IT WAS AT TO MOVE IT IN A BROCHURE.
WE BEGAN THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE COTTER HOUSE.
SO WE CAN DEMYSTIFY GOING UP IN FIVE POINTS.
SO THERE WOULDN'T BE FEAR GOING UP IN FIVE POINTS, AND NOW WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION AND BRING IT BACK UP.
WHEN YOU ADD THOSE BREWERIES UP AND DOWN THERE, YOU GOT EVERYBODY WALKING UP AND DOWN, AND NOW YOU DO MYSTIFY AND THAT'S WHAT THIS, THIS, THIS COMMISSION IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT.
SO THERE'S NO FEAR WHEN YOU GO OVER BROAD STREET AND GO TOWARDS THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
I CAME UP AT A TIME WHEN WE STAYED ON THE SIDE OF WOULD JUST GET YOU ON MY SIDE.
ME , DON'T GO OVER ON THAT SIDE PRETTY MUCH.
AND MY FRIENDS FROM DOWNSIDE IS TRACKS WAS THROWN ON YOUR WAY.
DOWNTOWN FROM UPTOWN, DON'T MAKE A LEFT.
DID MISS THE FIVE, THAT PERCEPTION BY KEEPING IT AS WE BEGAN.
AND WE TAUGHT THE MORE ROOMS YOU TAKE UP AND STAYING AWAY, THE MORE YOU TAKE, THE MORE RESOURCES WE DON'T HAVE WENT IN THERE WHERE TO NEED THIS LAND STARTED GETTING RESOURCES IN THE HOOD, IN THE HOOD.
AND I WAS ALL FOR IT BECAUSE IT DID MYSTIFY WHERE I GREW UP.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN, BEEN DONE IT OVER THERE.
TRENT COURT, WHEN YOU ALIGN ALL OF THAT UP ALL THE WAY FROM THE TIRE, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TRY AND PASS UP AND DOWN, NOTHING, MAN DID MISS THE POT REINTEGRATED.
I'M GONNA JUST GO AHEAD AND CALL IT WHAT IT IS BE IN BREACH, INTEGRATED THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
AND WE NEED TO DO THE SAME THING OVER THERE FOR WHERE THEY'RE AT, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T GO BACK THERE, THEN IT CONTINUES TO KEEP THE LABEL THAT'S ON IT RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE CAN GET SOME RESOURCES BACK.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FOREVER.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS BROUGHT HERE TO HEAR THE I LOVE IT.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO HOLD BACK.
I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO BE TRANSPARENT AND THEY HAVE THESE SOMETIMES DIFFICULT DISCUSSIONS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, AND I WANT DAWN TO HOP IN.
UM, WHEN I MET WITH, UM, MR. HARRISON, THE DAY BEFORE THAT PLAN WAS PRESENTED, UM, HE SAID, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANY FQHC C FUNDED BECAUSE THAT'S, WHAT'S IN THE PLAN, UM, IS IN THE PLAN ITSELF, IS IT MAYBE? YEAH, I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I CALLED JACK AND WE JUST WENT ON WITH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE NEXT NIGHT AND WE HAD THE PLAN APPROVED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE EXPLAINED TO ME IS THAT YOU HAVE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE A HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAVE LOCKED.
SO, YOU KNOW, FUNDING IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUNDING IS GONNA LOOK LIKE AT THIS POINT.
THIS IS ALL I'M SAYING, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T DO IT.
OF COURSE, I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DR.
FISHER HAD JUST ASKED, UM, AGAIN, WOULD HIS CONCEPT WAS TO, UM, BASICALLY USE THE RESOURCES THAT WE, THAT WOULD BE EXISTING AT THIS POINT.
THAT WAS BASICALLY WHY THE ASKED THE QUESTION, SAY AGAIN, WITH THE IDEA OF NOT GETTING THE POTENTIAL FUNDING WE NEED AND WE'VE HAD TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE.
THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S ALL GOTTA BE DISCUSSED.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY, UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY IF THEY TRY TO MAKE THAT POINT, THAT YOU JUST SAY THAT IN ORDER TO GET FUNDING, IT HAS TO BE AT THE BRAND NEW.
NO, NO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL.
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TOLD WAS THAT GETTING FQHC FUNDING, FQHC, FAIRLY QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER, THAT IS WHAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS.AND SO WE PUT THAT IN THE CNI.
IT WAS IN THE TRANSFORMATION PLAN, I BELIEVE.
CAUSE I READ IT THERE, THE ONE FROM 2010 AND WE CARRIED OVER THAT LANGUAGE THINKING.
YEAH, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE TO SAY THE ART FACILITY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN I WAS TOLD THAT, AND I KNOW THAT MR. UM, WELL, THIS IS, AND AGAIN, I JUST SAID TO CAROL, SO HE HAD TOM AND HE SAID, NO, NO, YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT.
BUT WHEN I, WHEN, BEFORE THE PLAN WAS APPROVED, I DID HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
I WAS TOLD THAT THAT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.
SO, AND THAT IS, I'M BEING VERY HONEST.
SO I JUST WANT THE COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MAYBE A DIFFERENT PLAN AS TO WHAT IT WILL BE, HOW WE WOULD APPROACH IT.
SO, UM, CUBE IS JUST A BUZZWORD IN THEIR SYSTEM AND NOW THEY'VE CHANGED IT TO SOMETHING ELSE AS THEY ALWAYS DO IN GOVERNMENT.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THAT FUNNY AT THAT TIME.
WELL, WE ALL KNOW, AGAIN THAT YOU CANNOT HELP, BUT RUN ARE LOCATED WITHIN THERE'S ONE IN GOSHEN AT GOSHEN MEDICAL CENTER, BUT IT IS THE, THE PARENT COMPANY FOR GOSHEN IS IN MY KNOWLEDGE.
SO THEY, THEY ARE THE ACTUAL ONES THAT HAD IT AND I'VE BEEN IN.
SO, SO, UH, I MEAN THERE IS, I SAW THE FUNDING AND THAT, AND JUST SETTING THAT, YOU KNOW, I, AND I MENTIONED THIS AT OUR MEETING.
LET'S NOT GET STUCK ON THAT WORD BECAUSE THAT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
SO IT'S SPECIFICALLY THE PARTNERSHIP WITH HEALTH.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE PLAN.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE CARRIED OVER AND I HIGHLY SUGGEST, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THAT GOLD, FIVE OF OUR PM'S THE FLUID PLAN THAT WE CHANGE THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S THERE AND IT'S WRITTEN THERE.
UM, AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT IS PERTINENT AT THIS POINT.
SO YEAH, BUT THERE IS VARIATIONS OF STATE THEIR YARD.
I MEAN, WE CAN GET INTO TECHNICAL TERMS AS FAR AS THE VERBIAGE AND NOT EVEN HAVE TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER FUNDER.
I MEAN, I'M NOT SPRAYING IT OFF.
THE CURRENT HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THEY STATED ARE WE ALREADY HAVE TO DO RENOVATIONS IN THE MAKANI HOUSE, BUT WHEN WE STARTED OFF, IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO GET OUT OF IT, TO GET TO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO INTO MOCAD HOUSE.
AND WHEN WE, WHEN WE BEGAN THIS THING, EVEN REFUSE, SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE WANTED THAT MACATA HOUSE, BECAUSE WE KNEW HE HAD HIS PLAN FROM THAT, BUT IT WAS WORTH A BOOK REPORT TO STEVE.
AND WE STILL SAID, NO, BECAUSE WE EARMARKED FOR THIS RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN WE GET TO THE FIVE YARD LINE NOW AND CHANGE THE PLAN AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY HAS A COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND THIS IDEA, YOU KNOW, THEIR PORTION OF THEIR FUNDING THERE, WHICH OPERATES REALLY WELL.
COMMISSIONER JOHN PAUL, LEAVING RELEASE.
UM, I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND IT'S LIKE A LIGHT BULB GOING OFF TO ME TO HEAR THAT I SPENT 40 YEARS IN WORRYING AND TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO FUND HEALTH PROJECTS.
I LOOKED AT MY KATA HOUSE AND I SEE NO MONEY TO THE RISK GROUP.
THE FIRST STEP IN YOUR PLAN IS TO RESTORE THE MCCOTTER HOUSE.
I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS COMMISSION IS GOING TO PULL THAT OFF.
UM, AND I LOOKED AT IT FROM AN OUTSIDER.
I LOOKED AT IT FROM, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF AN OUTSIDER.
I LOOKED AT THAT PIECE OF CRAP OVER THERE, THIS MACAQUE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
UM, AND THAT'S, IT'S GOING TO TAKE UP A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO RESTORE.
MEANWHILE, THE PEOPLE IN, IN OUR TARGETED AREA HAD THE SAME HEALTH PROBLEMS THEY HAD 20 YEARS AGO.
SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN QUICKLY GET SUSTAINABLE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.
I DON'T WANT IT HELD UP WHILE WE LOOKING FOR A FEW PENNIES TO, TO RESTORE THE MCCARTER HOUSE THAT I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, AND IF THAT'S THE WAY WE'D GO, THEN WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM TO DO THE FIRST STEP, WHICH IS TO RESTORE THAT HOUSE, UM, THAT ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS NEXT WEEK? BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID.
I THINK THE PREDICTIVE DATA WE'LL BE OPENING UP,
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GETTING IT TWO AND A HALF YEARS, AT LEAST TWO.SO, UM, COMMISSIONERS, WE NEED TO GET COMMISSIONING PART OF A CONVERSATION.
SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO, UM, CONTINUE TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
DON'T BE, UH, UH, A BOAT OR ANYTHING WE DON'T HAVE TO GET.
I HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
IF YOU'D LIKE, AS THE COMMISSIONS PLEASURES TO PLACE, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE CONVERSATION ABOUT A HEALTH OR WELLNESS CENTER IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA ON THE NEXT AGENDA TO DO THAT.
WOULD THAT SUFFICE TO GIVE US ENOUGH TIME AND COMMISSIONERS? I WOULDN'T LIKE IT TO BE MORE DIRECTED IF WE'RE GOING IN, UH, COMMISSIONER WALLACE, ITS DIRECTION, I'D LIKE MAYBE THE STAFF OR SOMEONE TO TELL US HOW WE CAN RE REMODEL THAT PLACE.
AND THAT RIGHT NOW WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S THAT BIG? THAT THAT WOULD BE FOUNDATION, RIGHT? WELL, WE WILL WORK ON MEN, OUR STAFF, WE WORK OUT AND SEE THE MANAGER, UM, AND MAYBE REACH OUT TO SOME AND THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, BOTH OUR FIRST APARTMENT THAT YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.
WE HAVE ONE MORE, ONE MORE THING.
UM, AND THAT IS THE POSSIBLE DONATION.
UM, MR. RUGGIERO, DO YOU STILL HAVE YOUR MAP? UM, SO WHERE ARE YOUR PATIENTS TOO LONG? UM, THE CITY WAS CONTACTED BY A MR. JAMES DAY IN THE RECENT PAST IN THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS, MR. DAVE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 14, 14, AND 14, 12 WASHINGTON STREET.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE PARCELS ROUGHLY WHERE MR. RUGERI CURSOR IS, IS IDLING.
THOSE PROPERTIES BACK UP TO THE DUMP.
UM, MR. DAY IS HAVING SOME TAX PROBLEMS. AND INSTEAD OF PULLING THROUGH THE TAX FORECLOSURE PROCESS, HE IS INCLINED TO DONATE THOSE TWO PARCELS, UM, TO THE CITY OR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
SINCE THESE PARCELS ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, UM, IT IS APPROPRIATE AS WE ALL TO, TO CONSIDER, TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT THE DONATION OF THESE TWO PARCELS.
I WILL INDICATE THAT, UM, THE DELINQUENT TAXES ON THESE TWO PARCELS, UM, THE COUNTY IS OWED ABOUT $500.
AND IF YOU WERE INCLINED TO INFORM WITH ACCEPTING THIS GIFT, BECAUSE WITH THE TAX FORECLOSURE, THE COUNTY AND CITY WOULD OWN THE PARCEL IN BOTH OF THOSE ENTITIES ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR TAXES.
WHAT I CAN ENVISION MOVING FORWARD, IF THIS COMMISSION IS INCLINED TO WANT TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION IS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR THE TAXES THAT THEY'RE DUE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY $500.
AND THE CONVERSATION AT THIS POINT WOULD BE THAT THE CITY'S WAIVED THEIR, THEIR TAX INDEBTEDNESS AND THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WITH ON THOSE TWO LOTS, FOR INSTANCE.
IS THERE CLEAN UP RIGHT NOW OR NO, OPPOSITE OF MY HEAD.
I DO KNOW ON, I THINK IT'S FOUR.
WELL, THERE WAS A MOBILE HOME ON THAT THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE MINIMUM HOUSING PROCESS THAT WHEN YEARS AGO, AND THERE IS THIS, THE CITY HAS A LIEN AGAINST THAT PROPERTY FOR THE DEMOLITION COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT MOBILE HOME.
SO THAT COUNTS THE CITY'S TAX BURDEN IS SIGNIFICANT COMPARISON ACCOUNTS, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THE DOLLARS MR. WE PUT THIS ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
THERE'S A LOT OF DATA BEHIND THIS THAT IT COULDN'T BE PAID FOR AS FAR AS THE GREEN LIGHT PARTS OF THIS PROJECT, THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS OR SO, THIS COULD REALLY
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BE A GOOD THING.SO BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DECISIONS, LET'S PUT THIS DISCUSSION ON THE NEXT AGENDA WHERE WE CAN PRESENT WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO DIRECT STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BUTTON UP SOME OF THESE DETAILS FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THE NEXT PIECE, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
JUST PUT THE, UH, GENTLEMEN, WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU CAN GIVE US AHEAD OF TIME.
UM, JUST TWO MORE THINGS BEFORE WE LEAVE.
UM, I TOLD YOU THE LAST WEEK I WAS WORKING THROUGH AN AID, UH, ANNUAL REPORT.
SO, UM, I WOULD BE CALLING ON YOU TO GET ME MORE INFORMATION PLAYS IS DOING SOME THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES, IF YOU SEND ME TWO OR THREE, WITH THAT WAY I CAN, THAT WAY I CAN CHOOSE.
NOW, THIS IS SWISS BEARS, ANNUAL REPORT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT ELEGANT, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE NEAR THERE AND THE PICTURES MAKE IT, MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
SO IF YOU WOULD, UH, I'M ALSO GOING TO MISS CAG TWO PICTURES AS WELL, BUT FOR POSITIVE WORK AGAIN, I THINK THAT YOU CAN REMEMBER HERE TO GET IT TO ME, AND I NEED IT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE I NEED TO FINISH, UH, FINISH UP.
UH, I WILL CONSTANTLY, UH, ACCOMPLISH IN THE LAST THREE YEARS FOR THREE YEARS.
THREE YEARS AGO GOING FOR, UM, AND WE ARE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND, BUT THAT'S WHEN YOU PAY THEM IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
SO IF Y'ALL WOULD DO THAT, UM, DO THAT FOR ME, SOME THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THERE, SOME THINGS THAT YOU THINK THAT WE BOTH ACCOMPLISHED, YOU KNOW, THAT HE WOULD SEND THEM TO ME.
THEY COULD JUST BE RAW AND THEY WE'LL, WE'LL PUT THEM IN THERE, BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN, UH, GET IN THERE.
CAUSE WE PRESENTED TO FOUR, I GUESS WE NEED A DEADLINE.
THAT'S STARTING TO BE IMPLEMENTED NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, LATE FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY.
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO HOLD THEM, I WILL TEACH YOU GET EMOTIONAL TO TOO.
CAN I JUST ASK, SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED CENTER, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING? EXACTLY.
SO WE GOT TO WORK ON YOU'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THEM.
AND SO COULD I ASK THAT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE SPOKEN TO MARGARET SHIELDS BEFORE IN THE PAST ABOUT RENTS AND THERE ARE GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, BUT THEY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
UM, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I SAY THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSING AREA AND THEN ANOTHER TAX RATE.
SO ANYTHING, UM, ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? ALL RIGHT.