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[1. Meeting opened by Mayor Dana E. Outlaw. Prayer Coordinated by Alderman Bengel. Pledge of Allegiance.]
I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE FEBRUARY 22ND MEETING OF THE NEW REPORT.THE PRAYER TONIGHT WILL BE GIVEN MY OWN LIMPING.
HOW TO HAVE INVITED, UM, BISHOP RON SCOTT OF REFRESHING LIVES MINISTRY.
HE IS ALSO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE NEWBURN HOUSING AUTHORITY AND A NUBER NATIVE AND JUST A GODLY WONDERFUL MAN.
SO WILL YOU PLEASE BRING PRAYER FOR US THIS EVENING? WE ALL VOLUNTEERS.
DEAR WIFE, ALVIN ON NORM FIRST, LET ME SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL WHO ARE GATHERED HERE THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU FOR THE MANY AND ABUNDANT BLESSINGS.
FOR THE FULL MEASURE OF HEALTH, WE NEED TO FULFILL OUR CALLINGS AND OUR ASSIGNMENTS.
THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO BE INVOLVED AND USEFUL WORK.
AND FOR THE HONOR OF BEARING APPROPRIATELY RESPONSIBILITY, YOU SEE IT IN YOU.
WEREN'T IN THE SCRIPTURES, ENROLLMENTS 13 THE MORNING, EVERYONE MUST SUBMIT HIMSELF INTO GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES, BUT THERE IS NO AUTHORITY EXCEPT THAT WHICH GOD HAS ESTABLISHED HIMSELF.
AND THOSE AUTHORITIES OUGHT TO PROMOTE PEACE OR INJUSTICE.
THEREFORE, RIGHT NOW I PRAY FOR OUR MAYOR, BUT EACH ALDERMAN, THE CITY MANAGER AND ALL THE CITY OFFICIALS AND THEIR FAMILIES FOLLOW DO WHAT ONLY YOU CAN DO.
I'M ASKING THAT YOU WOULD GRACEFULLY GRANDAM WISDOM TO GOVERNOR MID THE CONFLICT AND INTEREST IN ISSUE THAT FACED THIS CITY, RENT THEM A SENSE OF WELFARE, TRUE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE, A CAME THIRST FOR JUSTICE AND RIGHTNESS CONFIDENCE IN WHAT IS GOOD AND FITTING THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY.
EVEN WHEN THERE IS HONEST DISAGREEMENT, GRANT THEM PERSONAL PEACE IN THEIR LIVES AND JOY ABOUT DOING WHAT YOU HAVE BLESSED THEM TO DO.
I PRAYED FOR THE AGENDA SETTING IS SET BEFORE THEM TO SEE, PLEASE GIVE AN ASSURANCE TO WHAT WOULD PLEASE YOU AND WHAT WOULD BENEFIT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THIS GREAT, AWESOME CITY OF NEW BERN.
IT IS IN JESUS MATCHES AND THEY WOULD BRAND GIVEN THINGS AMEN.
BLACK BAR OUTLET BY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? I DON'T REMEMBER THE BAGEL HERE.
PRESIDENT ALDERMAN ASKED HER MAY YOUR OUTLAW KINSEY OUTER MENDEZ ON-DEMAND ITEM.
EVERYBODY GET WITH THE AGENDA OR GET GOING.
[Consent Agenda]
UH, WE STOOD THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA, SECOND MOTION.AND SECOND, IS THERE DISCUSSION SEEING NONE? ALL IN FAVOR THE MOTION, SAY AYE, MOTION CARRIES ITEM
[5. Discussion of Extraterritorial Jurisdiction.]
NUMBER FIVE.THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION ON THE EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
THIS WAS ORIGINALLY TABLED AT THE JANUARY 25TH MEETING, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY CITY ATTORNEY TO START THIS THAT'S MY PARENTS, THE BOARD.
UM, YOU RECALL FROM LAST MONTH, UM, WE WERE ENTERTAINING THE IDEA OF WHETHER OR NOT THE BOARD WANTS TO REMOVE ANY OR ALL PARTS OF THE EXISTING ETJ AREAS.
UM, ALLISON'S HERE AND SHE CAN REFRESH US.
ALICE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, JUST TAKING US BACK THROUGH THE VARIOUS ETJ ZONES AROUND THE CITY.
THANK YOU, JAY AREA, LONG DUCK CREEK TOWNSHIPS ETJ AREA FOR OUR HOOD ROAD AND MOSTLY ALONG THE WESTERN PART OF THE CITY LIMITS OR JASON.
AND IT'S I RECALL THERE WAS A TINY, TINY PORTION ACROSS SOUTH, ACROSS THE TRENT RIVER.
JUST THAT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE HIGHWAY.
YES, WE'RE OUT BACK TO THE ACCOUNTANTS, A LITTLE PIECE THERE AS WELL.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE PIECE OUT BACK TO THE COUCHES.
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THERE'S AN ETJ.AND THEN AGAIN, INSIDE COUNT SHIP TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE CITY LIMITS THERE'S ETJ AND THEN THE DUCK CREEK.
UM, JUST REFRESH IT PROCEDURALLY.
IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ANY OR PART OF THE ETJ, WE WOULD, UM, GO THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS WHERE WE IDENTIFY THE AREA THAT YOU DIRECT, UM, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, TO DISCUSS THE PROS AND CONS AFTER WHICH THE BOARD COULD REMOVE THAT AREA FROM THE ETJ.
AND I BELIEVE THE STATUTE PROVIDES THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T STEP IN AND DO SOMETHING AFTER 30 DAYS IT'S THEREAFTER REMOVED, MEANING IT BECOMES PART OF THE COUNTY WITHOUT ANY CITY REGULATION WHATSOEVER QUESTION.
SO IF SOMETHING'S REMOVED FROM ETJ AND DOWN THE ROAD, ESPECIALLY IN THE BRIDGE TO AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, SOME HAVE NOT.
SO LET'S SAY WE REMOVED IT FROM THERE.
COULD THEY STILL COME AND REQUEST ANNEXATION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN OUR ETJ? GOOD QUESTION.
UM, ETJ IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM WHETHER A PERSON CAN PETITION FOR A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE IN AN ETJ TO REQUEST AN EXEMPTION.
AND YOUR OTHER QUESTION MIGHT BE, IF YOU, IF A FUTURE BOARD CHANGES THEIR MIND, IF YOU REMOVE A SECTION FROM THE ETJ AND A FUTURE BOARD WANTS TO PUT IT BACK, YES.
THEY JUST FOLLOW THE STATUTE AND THEY CAN PUT IT BACK IN THE SAME PLACE OR DIFFERENT PLACES.
SCOTT, A LOT OF QUESTIONS, A LOT OF THIS AREA LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNDEVELOPED.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY WOULD NEED UTILITIES.
THEY WOULD THEN HAVE TO BASED OFF OUR POLICY IF THEY ASKED FOR UTILITIES.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AMEX, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
JUST TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE, IF YOU ARE NOT LOCATED IN THE CITY AND YOU REQUIRE THE CITY SEWER OR CITY WATER, THEY CONDITION TO GETTING THAT SERVICE IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD PETITION.
YOU ASKED YOU TO ANNEX DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT ANNEXATION, BUT AS PART OF PROVIDING THE SEWER AND WATER SERVICE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ASK YOU TO BRING THAT PROPERTY INTO THE CITY.
THE ONE RESEARCH I'VE NOT DONE IS THAT SINCE VIRTUALLY GUINNESS POWDERS CAN NOT AND VOLUNTARILY ANNEX FOR THE MOST PART, IS THERE A NEED FOR ETJ VERSUS YEARS AGO WHEN YOU HAD ANNEX AND YOU WERE BASICALLY ESSENTIALLY YEARS PRIOR TO YOU ARE PREPARING THAT AREA FOR FUTURE, UM, COULD USE WITHOUT OR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA.
SO IS THERE ANY TRENDING INFORMATION ON WHAT CITIES ARE DOING AS FAR AS ETJ SINCE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY? PRETTY MUCH FOR DAVID DID ANYTHING OTHER THAN VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.
MAY I SIMPLY TELL THEM NOW NOR DO I, UM, AND IN SOME AREAS WHERE THE COUNTY USED TO PROVIDE PERMITS PRIOR TO AN AREA COMING INTO AN ATJ, THE COMPLAINTS I GET, ANY TJ THAT ARE SENT TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ARE NORMALLY THE USUAL NEW LEAVES.
SOME, SOME BATEMAN ISSUES, UM, IMPROPER PERMITTING OR, UM, IMPROVEMENTS LACKING STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY.
UM, BUT WE REALLY, EVEN WITH ETJ DON'T HAVE ANY TRUE JURISDICTION OVER SITUATIONS WHERE SOMETHING WAS PERMITTED BY THE COUNTY FRONTED ETJ TAKEN OVER.
WHAT ABOUT THAT MAY AFFAIR CORRECT STATEMENT.
AND A POINT YOU'RE RAISING, WHICH IS VERY COMMON IS, UM, WE'LL HAVE A SUBDIVISION THAT'S APPROVED BY THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE STATE.
IN WHICH CASE THE DEVELOPER WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE COUNTY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AFTER WHICH THAT PROJECT MAY REQUEST TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
SO WE'VE NOW GOT A PROJECT IN THE CITY BUILT TO A DIFFERENT SET OF STANDARDS.
SO THAT HAPPENS FAIRLY REGULARLY.
AND WHILE THERE'S NO PARTICULAR REVENUE GENERATION FROM AREAS BEING AT ATJ, THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY RESOURCES THAT THE CITY EXPAND SOME YEARLY BASIS TO FORCE, UM, ZONING REQUIREMENTS IN THOSE AREAS.
BUT PROBABLY WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE ON THAT EITHER.
UM, ATTORNEY DAVIS, HOW LONG HAS THE ROCKY RUN COMMUNITY, THAT ETJ AREA
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BEEN WITHIN THE CITY? I MEAN THE CITY HAD, UM, YES.I THINK ALEX CAN TELL US DON'T THEY PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
ALICE IS THEY'RE ALREADY NINETIES.
I'M NOT REMEMBERING, I'M JUST SCOTT AND I HAVE A QUESTION, UM, SINCE IT'S BEEN A RESIDENTIAL, A COMMUNITY WITHIN A THINK WITHIN THE LAST, UH, FOUR TO EIGHT YEARS, IT'S BEEN MORE INDIVIDUALS PURCHASING PROPERTY TO BE A BUSINESSES OUT THERE NOW.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAVE BROUGHT THIS HERE TO BE A BIG QUESTION HERE ABOUT YES, SIR.
CAN YOU OVERLAY THE ZONING ON THAT 17 SOUTH CORRIDOR? I CAN PULL IT UP.
I CAN'T FROM THIS SIDE, BUT I CAN PULL IT UP.
I WAS JUST GONNA OFFER AN ILLUSTRATION TO YOUR PARTICULAR POINT IF, IF ALEX CAN PULL IT OFF.
SO, SO THE QUESTION LIES HERE THAT IT'S LESS HOUSES BEING BUILT AND MORE, UM, UH, COMPANIES WANTING TO COME IN AND BUILD.
I, I THINK THAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S CAUSED, UM, A BIT OF THE, THE CONCERN IN THE, IN THE 17 SOUTH CORRIDOR.
YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL ZONE FOLKS THAT, UM, GREW UP THERE, LIVED THERE, STILL LIVE IN THOSE HOMES.
UM, YET THERE ARE BUSINESSES, UH, ADJACENT ACROSS THE STREET NEARBY.
SO IT'S AN AREA THAT IS CLEARLY IN TRANSITION.
AND THE QUESTION IS FOR YOU, THE POLITICAL QUESTION IS WHAT TO DO.
RESIDENTIAL ZONES STAY RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
MR. DAVIS, UH, IF, IF WE DID AWAY WITH ETJ, HYPOTHETICALLY IN AN AREA LIKE THE WESTERN PART OF THE CITY WITH POTENTIALLY WHAT COULD OR COULD NOT RIVER DO AS FAR AS EXTENDING THEIR ETJ.
I THINK THERE WAS A BIT OF A MUTUAL AGREEMENT ABOUT THIS LINES WHEN IT, YES, SIR.
NEITHER CITY, NEITHER NEWBURN NOR RIVERBEND CAN COME CLOSER THAN THE MIDPOINT.
SO EACH CAN GO MEET TO THE MIDDLE AND RIVERBEND.
WELL, THAT'S THE GENERAL RULE.
EITHER PARTY CAN CONSENT TO A FURTHER EXTENSION.
SO NEWBURGH COULD S COULD ALLOW RIVERBEND TO COME CLOSER TO NEWBURGH FOR THE ETJ MINNESOTA NEWBURN DID AWAY WITH ETJ RIVER VAN COULD TAKE, THEY COULDN'T, THEY COULD COME TO THE MIDWAY POINT, BUT THEY COULDN'T COME PAST WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL.
DO YOU KNOW IF THE RIVER BEND IN ZONE? I IMAGINE THEY HAVE SOME MINIMAL LEVEL OF, SORRY.
THERE'S THERE'S THE CORRIDOR THAT WE'RE YES, SIR.
A LITTLE SMALLER, BUT IT WOULDN'T MATTER.
THEY'RE A SMALLER, SMALLER TOWNS, SO THEY CAN'T GO AS FAR.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE ONE MILE, I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO THE ONE MILE RULE.
THEY WEREN'T HAS THE THREE MILE RULE, SO THEY MIGHT BE LIMITED TO JUST ONE MILE.
AND I DON'T KNOW, AS THE CROW FLIES, HOW FAR NORTH OF 17, THEY COULD COME FROM THEIR FURTHEST POINT.
MY QUESTION IS IN A NEW HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THIS COURT DOOR HERE THAT WE ARE, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITHIN THE LAST FOUR TO EIGHT YEARS VERSUS HOW MANY BUSINESSES HAVE MOVED IN.
THIS ALICE HAS GOT A NICE MAP UP FOR US.
YOU CAN SEE, UM, ALICE WEIRD FROM THAT MAIN BODY OF C3 WHERE THAT 85 HITS ON THE FALL ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
WHAT, WHAT IS WHAT'S THAT PROPERTY JUST SO WE CAN ALL, OH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ROCKY RUN ROAD.
THAT'S ROCKY RUN WHERE WE'RE AT.
IF YOU CAN SEE THE SOUTHERN PIECE OF, UH, AS YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP OVERHEAD, YOU'LL SEE THE, A FIVE ZONE IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER.
THAT IS THE INTERSECTION OF 17 AND ROCKY RUN ROAD WHERE IT STARTS AT SOME LOOP.
SO YOU CAN SEE AS YOU TRAVEL SOUTH, YOU'VE GOT C3, UM, ARE 10, UM, SOME 85 AND OUR 20 ALL ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
AND THAT'S, WHAT'S I THINK PRESENTING THE ISSUES THAT EVERYONE IS STRUGGLING WITH.
SO IS THIS DISCUSSION KNOW FILE ABOUT A PARTICULAR AREA AT ALL, HOLISTIC ALL ETJ OF THE CITY AND
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OR IS THIS A, UM, KIND OF SITUATION WHERE DIFFERENT ALDERMAN, GEOGRAPHICALLY MIGHT HAVE CONCERNS THAT THEY WANT YOU TO TJ? AND I WOULD LOSE MY APP AND SAID CONSIDERATIONS FOR THEY DON'T WANT ETJ MAYOR.I JUST IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ETJ IS SUPPOSED TO HELP SOFTEN THE DIFFERENCE IN BEING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY VERSUS BEING INSIDE OF THE CITY.
IF YOU GO BACK, ALICE, I KEEP FLIPPING BACK AND FORTH TO GET BACK TO YOUR ZONING MAP.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DOCTOR, MLK JR BOULEVARD, EVERYTHING, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IN THE CITY ALONG THAT FOR THE MOST PART IS COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS IT'S ON THE OUTSKIRTS.
SO IF THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND ETJ IS TO MAKE THE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY MESH WITH INSIDE THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS ACCOMPLISHING THAT SINCE THE INSIDE OF THE CITY IS MOSTLY COMMERCIAL.
ALICE, CAN YOU INDICATE, YOU COULD SHOW THE CITY LIMIT LINE ON THIS MAP WHEREVER YOU SEE.
UM, I THINK IT WAS UP ALICE ON YOUR MENU AND THEY WERE IN A MINUTE SO WHEREVER YOU SEE RED.
HOW ABOUT SLIDING THAT CURSOR? SO THAT, THAT, THAT KIND OF HELPS EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU TECHNICALLY LEAVE THE CITY SCOTT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE ALREADY THEY'VE ALREADY ASKED FOR? IS THAT ANYTHING? AND, UH, IT WOULD JUST DISAPPEAR.
THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT TO.
SO WHEN YOU WERE, WHEN YOU REMOVED THE ETJ, YOU REMOVE ALL OF THE REGULATIONS IN THAT AREA AND YOU LEGALLY CAN MOVE ELIMINATE SOME, BUT NOT, NOT ALL YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU CAN REMOVE WHATEVER, UH, ATTORNEY DAVIS, YOU SAID THAT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD IS INCLINED TO DO, THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE.
THIS ITEM IS JUST TO GET SOME DIRECTION.
DO WE QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT? OR DO YOU WANT STAFF TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING IN ANTICIPATION OF THAT? AND TO TAKE THAT STEP, STAFF'S GOING TO NEED SOME DIRECTION AS TO WHAT ERIC WOULD TALK ABOUT ALL THE TJ EVERYWHERE OR JUST IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS.
WELL, I'M ATTORNEY DAVIS, MY AND BOARD.
MY STANCE ON THIS IS THAT IF YOU GOT THE ETJ FOR THE ROCKY RUN COMMUNITY, THE CITIZENS HAVE BEEN UNDER THE CITY FOR, AS THE ETJ IS CONCERNED FOR ONLY PERMIT AND FOR OVER 32 YEARS.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE EASY ETJ FROM THE ROCKY ROCK COMMUNITY, I FEEL YOU SHOULD TAKE IT FROM ALL THE OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE CITY, WITHIN THE ETJ AREA.
AND THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.
AND I DON'T FEEL I'M A BE FRANK WITH YOU.
ON THIS, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO ONE AREA, YOU NEED TO DO ALL THE OTHER AREAS.
YOU NEED TO TAKE IT FROM A NUN UNDER THE ETJ FOR THE CITY.
I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, ALDERMAN, UH, BEST, UH, MY CONCERN HAS BEEN ALL ALONG AS THE STAFF TIME AND ISSUE AND EVERYTHING GOING ALONG AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, NO ONE PAYS TAXES AND, UM, THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE IN THAT AREA WITHOUT THE BENEFIT.
BUT I AGREED THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, IT SHOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD OR NOT AT ALL.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR THE ROCKY RUN COMMUNITY, LIKE YOU'RE FORCING THESE INDIVIDUALS, THESE CITIZENS TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY TO GET SOME SERVICE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS RIGHT.
AND THE OTHER UNFORTUNATE IS WE'VE HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE, UM, THE ROCKY RUN COMMUNITIES COME OUT HERE FOR, UM, A HEARING IN REGARDS TO A DEVELOPER WANTING TO COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, DO THINGS WITH THE TREES.
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REGULATIONS, THAT INDIVIDUAL COULD HAVE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT.AND AM I UNDER? YES, MA'AM EXACTLY.
SO EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT PAY TAXES, WE HAVE A LOT OF AMENITIES THAT INDIVIDUALS COME AND USE AND THEY DON'T PAY TAXES.
SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK INTO, SO WE'RE NOT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE STREET.
UM, BUT I FEEL, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE NEED TO MOVE IT PAST TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE THE COMMUNITY COME OUT AND SPEAK AND, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY OWNERS, BUSINESS OWNERS COME OUT AND SPEAK, I THINK THAT'S THE POINT WE NEED TO GET TO BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION.
STAFF JUST NEED SOME DIRECTION.
WELL, I THINK, I MEAN, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO FROM THERE AND WITH THE, WITH THE NOTICE TO PROVIDE, UM, THAT EVERYONE IN AN ETJ, CAUSE WE HAVE TO SEND NOTICES OUT TO EVERYONE.
SO IF WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, THEN WE WOULD SEND A NOTICE TO EVERY PERSON IN EVERY ETJ.
AND GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO SHOW UP AND GIVE YOU, GIVE YOU THEIR THOUGHTS.
IS IT BY OBJECT TO THAT DIRECTION TO PERCEIVE A PHONE HEARING? IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? AND THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SEND OUT, YOU EXPLAIN TO THESE RESIDENTS WHY WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING.
MA'AM THE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON I'M NUMBER FIVE? THAT'S GOOD.
[6. Consider Adopting a Resolution Approving a Memorandum of Understanding with the Housing Authority of the City of New Bern.]
SIX, NEXT ITEM IS TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF NEWBURN.AT THIS TIME, I LIKE TO ASK, TIFFANY ASKED YOU THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO PRESENT HER REQUEST.
UM, I WANT TO THANK MAYOR OUTLAWED, OTTOMAN, BINGO, AND CITY MANAGER, UM, HUGHES FOR THEIR SUPPORT OVER THE LAST WEEKS TO GET US TO THIS POINT OF THIS RESOLUTION.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MY BOARD CHAIR, UM, RONALD SCOTT AND MORE MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE AND THE STAFF OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE.
UM, WHILE WE REALIZED THAT WE SHOULD BE FURTHER ALONG IN THIS PROCESS OF, UM, MOVING TRENT COURT FORWARD.
UM, SINCE MY ARRIVAL, I HAVE FOUND SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE SO THAT WE CAN, UM, SEE SOME PROGRESS IN THE AREA.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS, UM, WHICH THE CITY MAY ACT AS A RESPONSIBLE ENTITY TO COMPLETE THIS PROCESS ON THE BEHALF OF HOOD, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NO ADVERSE EFFECTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT, THIS IS A HUD AND FEMA REQUIREMENT, UM, THAT THIS PROCESS IS COMPLETED.
AND, UM, WE'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE IT KNOWN THAT WE WORK WITH THE LOCAL HISTORIC COMMISSION, UM, BEFORE ANY APPROVAL FOR DEMOLITION ON THIS SITE.
AND THE NEXT ITEM FOLLOWING THIS JOINT RESOLUTION BETWEEN, UM, THE CITY AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WOULD BE, UH, TO COMPLETE A MOA.
UM, AND THE CITY WOULD ACT AS A LEAD AND THIS MOA, UM, WITH FEMA AND THE OTHER LOCAL ENTITIES SO THAT, UM, THIS RESOLUTION WOULD BE IN SUPPORTIVE THAT, UH, MOA.
AND ON LAST NIGHT, THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES BOARD DID APPROVE THIS JOINT, UH, RESOLUTION.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TONIGHT.
AND, UM, I HAVE WITH ME ALSO THE AGENCIES SEE ATTORNEY MR. JAMES NORMAN, AND ALSO OUR DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT, MR. REGIONAL MARTYR, IF YOU HAVE MORE SPECIFIC, DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ASK IN REGARDS TO THIS REQUEST, I HAVE A QUESTION.
DID THE BOARD VOTE UNANIMOUSLY? YES MA'AM.
AND THEN WHAT, WHAT GOT YOU TO THIS POINT OF NEEDING THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY IN REGARDS TO THIS PART OF THE PROCESS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS, UM, HUD RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY ACT AS THE RESPONSIBLE ENTITY BECAUSE THE CITY RECEIVES, UM, HUD FUNDS.
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, THE CITY CAN ACT AS THE ENTITY TO COMPLETE THIS REVIEW ON THE BEHALF OF HUD OFFICE.
SO HUD LED US TO REQUEST THIS OTHER SEAT.
SO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY DOES NOT RECEIVE HUD FUNDING.
WE DO, BUT THIS REVIEW HAS TO BE DONE BY ANOTHER PARTY, WHICH CAN'T BE, CAN'T BE KNOWN BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
SO HUD HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COMPLETE REVIEW.
UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THIS PROCESS IS ABOUT? YES.
MA'AM UM, BIG PICTURE, UM, TO QUALIFY FOR THE FUNDING.
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THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.THE PROCESS HAS TO BE PERFORMED BY AN OUTSIDE PARTY OR RESPONSIBLE PARTY.
UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL OPTIONS, BUT NEWBURN IS EFFECTIVELY THE DEFAULT OPTION.
WE'RE KIND OF THE LAST ENTITY LEFT TO SIGN OFF ON THIS.
SO THE, THIS AGREEMENT PROVIDES THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL COVER ALL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REVIEW, BUT THE CITY WILL EFFECTIVELY BE IN CHARGE OF IT.
UM, SO THAT, UM, WE'RE SEPARATED TO SOME EXTENT FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UM, IN AN INDEPENDENT PROCESS AND WHO IS DOING THE REVEALING OF THE, ARE YOU HIRING A CONSULTANT? SO THE CITY IS A RESPONSIBLE ENTITY.
AND SO THE CITY WOULD MAKE THE DECISION ON THE PARTY THAT WOULD COMPLETE THAT.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE A CONSULTANT THAT DOES THAT CITY STAFF WOULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONSULTANT OUTSIDE OF COREY.
THE ONE THAT IS ALREADY OUR CONSULTANT THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT WOULD NOT BE THE THEME OF CONSULTANTS.
AND SO PUTTING OUT FOR THE CONSULTANT, HOW DID THAT WORK WHEN YOU PUT OUT AND SEEK FOR A CONSULTANT? IS IT GOING TO BE IN THE SAME STEPS THAT WE DO FOR LIKE STANLEY WHITE AND THE, THE HUD PARK IS NOT THE SCENT OR THE, YEAH, THE HARD PART IS NOT THE SAME AS THE FEMA.
UM, WHEN WE DID THE FEMA PART WITH THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER, THEY, THEY MAY, WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT, THAT PROCESS AT A LATER DATE, BUT THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THE HUD PROCESS WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE IT WAS SAID THAT BASED ON WHAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH STANLEY WHITE IS NOWHERE NEAR AS DETAILED AS THE THEME OF PROCESS ON WHAT THEY'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH FOR THIS FIRST PHASE.
AND THIS IS SO THAT YOU COULD DETERMINE WHETHER YOU TEAR DOWN THE BUILDINGS, THE REVIEW IS, UM, DOES MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO ADVERSE EFFECTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO PRETTY MUCH BECAUSE OF TEARING DOWN THE, OF THE BUILDINGS, THE DEMOLITION, CORRECT? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO I HAVE A QUESTION TO, HOW DOES THE MOU COME IN EFFECT WITH THIS, FOR THIS PROJECT? FOUR IS THE, I'M NOT SPEAKING OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT OF IT.
I'M ASKING FROM AN MOU POINT OF HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH ANY, IS THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CNI IMPLEMENTATION GRANT? DOES THIS ALL CORRELATE TOGETHER HERE? AND IT'S NOT A PART OF THE FORMAL CNI IMPLEMENTATION GRANT.
THIS IS A HUD ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS.
AND THE MOU THAT YOUR HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS WHERE THE CITY AGREES TO BE THE RESPONSIBLE ENTITY, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AGREES TO PAY FOR IT.
AND THAT YOU WILL PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW BECAUSE THERE IS NONE YET THAT'LL COME LATER.
YOU'RE NOT ENTERING INTO ANY OTHER KINDS OF CONTRACT OTHER THAN WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE REGULATIONS FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL PORTION OF IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THREE YEARS NOW, THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THESE BUILDINGS TAKEN DOWN THAT HAS BEEN, UM, FLOODED AND DAMAGED TOO.
AND WE KEPT ASKING WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT'S GOING ON? AND WHEN MISS ASKED YOU CAME ON, SHE FOUND OUT THAT THE STEPS HAD NOT BEEN TAKEN, AND THIS IS A REQUIREMENT OF HOOD TO GET THE FEMA MONEY, TO TEAR DOWN THE BUILDINGS.
YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS HUD ENVIRONMENT, OR AM I CORRECT? YOU CAN, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND THIS PROCESS WAS NEVER DONE.
SO MS. YOU CAME IN, REALIZED THIS, AND NOW THESE ARE THE STEPS THAT HAVE THE SAME YOU HAVE TO TAKE.
SO THAT'S WHAT IT HAS TO DO WITH IT.
DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE GRANT OR ANYTHING ELSE.
THIS IS JUST TRYING TO GET THE FUNDS TO TEAR, TO TEAR THEM DOWN AND REBUILD.
WOULD THEY BE THE SAME FUNDS TEARING DOWN AND REBUILD, OR IS THERE TWO SEPARATE SETS OF FUNDS? IT WOULD BE THE SAME.
IT WOULD BE THE SAME WHEN YOU TEAR THESE BUILDINGS DOWN, THOUGH, YOU'VE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED RECREATING THESE BUILDINGS WHEN YOU DID THE CAROLINA AVENUE SOMETHING, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE TEAR THESE BUILDINGS DOWN, UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE THE HURRICANE FLORENCE, IT WAS A TRAVESTY, WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT COMMUNITY? WHAT'S THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD FOR THOSE BUILDINGS OR FOR THAT AREA? BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY IS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE WATERFRONT PROPERTY BUILT THERE.
AND, UM, THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.
AND THE MAIN ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS THAT I DIDN'T RECEIVE THIS MOU, THIS INFORMATION UNTIL 9 25 THIS MORNING, THAT THE PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN GET TO SEE THIS AND THAT.
AND THAT IS A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY.
REGARDLESS IF IT'S SOMETHING VERY EASY, SIMPLE, I DON'T WANT TO PERSONALLY VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT AS I'M SITTING HERE, I WOULD HAVE TO BE, THE CITY
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HAS TAKEN THE RESPONSIBILITY WITHOUT FULLY DIGESTING AND GETTING ALL OF MY QUESTIONS AND THINGS ANSWERED.I KIND OF FEEL LIKE RUSHED OVER.
YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE TO WORK A NINE TO FIVE TO PROVIDE FOR MY FAMILY.
SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN DEDICATE MY TIME TO IN THE MORNING WHEN WE GET IT ON THE WEEKEND, I HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
SO I WOULD PERSONALLY THINK OR FEEL THAT THIS SHOULD BE TABLED TO THE NEXT NEXT BOARD MEETING SO THAT THERE CAN BE A TRUE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON ON THIS APPLICATION, IN THIS PROCESS, SO THAT I CAN HAVE A TRUE UNDERSTANDING, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S DEALING WITH FEMA, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST WITH MISINFORMATION WITH FEMALE, IS IT HOW TIME SENSITIVE? I HAVE TO DEFER TO THE HOUSE AND JUST SPEAKING FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES PERSPECTIVE, IF I MAY, WE HAVE FEDERAL AND STATE AGENCIES WAITING ON US TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PROCEED WITH THEIR REVIEW UNTIL WE DO.
SO, UH, SO TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
IS THERE A DEADLINE? UH, THERE'S NOT.
UM, SO THEN I HAVE TO CONCUR WITH YOU ALL THE MONEY, UM, PARENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHY IS THIS SUCH A RUSH NOW? AND WE RECEIVED THIS DOCUMENT TODAY.
YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT OR ANYTHING.
AND I JUST FEEL THAT IF WE, WE HAVE AN MOU HERE JUST LIKE WE HAD FOR THE UNION PART, AND WE HAD OUR CITIZENS HERE THAT COULD VOICE THEIR CONCERNS.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE SAME, THIS SAME PROCESS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO OUR CITIZENS, OR OUR CITIZENS CAN HAVE THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AS WELL.
I THINK WE'RE MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS IS, ALL APPLE, ALL THIS IS, IS A REQUEST.
ALL THIS IS AS A REQUEST TO DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY AT THAT'S REQUIRED BY HUD, BY HUD.
AND IT'S JUST SAYING THAT WE WOULD BE THE, I GUESS, RESPONSIBLE ENTITY OVER THIS PROCESS, NO FUNDS, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WOULD PAY THE FUNDS.
ANYTHING LIKE THIS, THIS DOESN'T MEAN WHAT'S GOING FORWARD.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THE BUILDINGS COME DOWN BECAUSE OF THIS, BUT IT IS A STEP THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN TO AND SOLID, OR JUST A MAHLER SHARPNESS.
CAUSE YEAH, I'M REGGIE BARNETT AND I'M WORKING WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN AS INDICATED PREVIOUSLY.
WHAT, WHAT TRANSPIRED IS THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR DEMOLITION OF THE TRADE COURT AFTER THE FLOOD, HUD APPROVED THAT PROCESS FOR THE DEMOLITION.
ONCE WE BEGAN TO REVIEW EVERYTHING, WHAT WE REALIZED IN THAT PROCESS AND WHAT THUD REALIZED IN THAT PROCESS IS THEY APPROVED THE DEMOLITION OF TRIM COURT UNITS THAT WERE DAMAGED WITHOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW BEING COMPLETED.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, I WANT FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, JUST TO EXPLAIN THAT THE ENVIRONMENT REVIEW IS NOT AFFECTING THE ABILITY OF THE CITIZENS TO HAVE INPUT ON QUITE DOES IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE.
THAT IS, THIS IS SIMPLY A SHIPPO, A THEME OF BOX CHIP THAT ADDRESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OR CONCERNS RELATE TO THE SITE TO JUST TO SIMPLY GET THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THE DEMOLITION OF GILDA'S THAT ARE NO LONGER OCCUPIED AND NO LONGER WHATEVER, BE OCCUPIED THE PROCESS FOR US GOING FORWARD AS IT RELATES TO REDEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT, UH, MS YOU MENTIONED IN THE PROCESS THAT AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THE DEMOLITION, WE CAN'T EVEN IF HUT, WHEN HUD APPROVES THE DEMOLITION, NOTHING CAN STILL BE DONE UNTIL THE HOUSING AUTHORITY COMES BACK AND WORKS WITH THE HBC TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, BECAUSE THESE UNITS ARE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THAT WE GO THROUGH THE LOCAL PROCESS TO GET ALL OF THEIR APPROVALS.
THIS IS SIMPLY JUST TO GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH TECHNICALLY HAS REALLY ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED WITHOUT THE FULL PROCESS OF THE APPROVAL.
SO WE JUST SIMPLY NEED THEIR APPROVAL FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS.
SO, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO SHE WAS JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW WHEN I ASK QUESTIONS, I'M ASKING BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT AREN'T HERE.
SO, UM, WHO HAS THE FINAL, UM, THE APPROVAL OF THE, UM, OF THIS, THIS PROCESS WHO WHO'S, WHO CHECKS OFF THAT IT'S OKAY.
SO I WANT TO GO BACK IF I COULD FOR Y'ALL AND TO PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS HUD FROM A FEDERAL
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GOVERNMENT STANDPOINT IS THE ENTITY BECAUSE YOU ALL, AS A CITY MUNICIPALITY RECEIVE CDBG AND OTHER GOVERNMENT FUNDS EITHER THE CITY OR THE COUNTY, IS THAT ENTITIES THAT CAN BE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY AS, AS MENTIONED FROM A DEFAULT STANDPOINT, BECAUSE YOU ALL RECEIVED THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS.WHAT HUD GENERALLY DOES IS DEFER TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO BE THAT RESPONSIBLE ENTITY.
SO WHAT WILL, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WE'RE TRYING TO FACILITATE HERE IS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT SIMPLY SAYS WE WORKED TOGETHER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL AND IN DOING SO THAT THE CITY, ULTIMATELY, WHEN THAT REPORT COMES, IS BROUGHT TO YOU ALL, AND IT SHOWS NO ADVERSE ACTIONS.
AND THEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU ALL FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
YOU ALL ACCEPT THAT YOU GIVE IT TO US.
AND THEN WE SUBMIT THAT AN APPLICATION THAT GOES BACK TO THE SPECIAL APPLICATION CENTER IN CHICAGO TO GET THE FINAL APPROVAL, THEN THE BALL STARTS ROLLING ALL OVER AGAIN, BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO GET LOCAL HBC APPROVAL TO TAKE DOWN BUILDINGS AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION HERE.
I, I, FOR ME, I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME BECAUSE THE, WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE A MAYOR THAT'S ABLE TO APPOINT PEOPLE TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD AND WE'RE SEPARATE.
SO NOW WE'RE BRINGING US TOGETHER TO WE'RE BRINGING US TOGETHER TO WORK TOGETHER, RIGHT? THE MOU TO WORK TOGETHER IN REGARDS TO THIS, THIS ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.
AND THEN WE ALSO ARE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY.
AND WE ALSO HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON WHETHER THERE IS AN ISSUE OR THERE ISN'T, THE REPORT WILL IDENTIFY.
THE REPORT WILL IDENTIFY THAT, THAT WE WILL GO, BUT THE CONSULTANT IS GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH US, EVEN THOUGH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS PAYING FOR IT.
THE, THE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS APPROVED ULTIMATELY BY HUD AND FEMA, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT, THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD AND IT WILL BE APPROVED BY THEM BEFORE IT COMES TO YOUR BOARD.
UM, AND IF YOU'RE NOT APPROVING ANY PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE, IT'S LITERALLY JUST THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW OF WHAT'S THERE NOW.
SO THE REVIEW IS NOT ABOUT A HUD, RIGHT.
AND FEMA, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO US.
I, I, THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
SO IF YOU NEED THIS APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD, WHY WOULD THEY ALREADY APPROVE IT AND SAID, WHY, WHY WOULD IT MATTER IF THEY'VE APPROVE IT TO BRING IT BACK TO US? WELL, THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THAT PROCESS AND THEY HAVE TO REVIEW THE RESULTS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND WHATEVER THAT REVIEW SHOWS, THEY WILL WORK WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO RESOLVE ANY DIFFERENCES OR CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS, AND THEN RE SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY FOR FINAL SIGN OFF FOR THE ENVIRONMENT ON THE PARK.
NOT AGAIN FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT.
WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP AFTER THIS? IF YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTIONS.
ONCE THIS PROCESS IS DONE, WHAT'S THE NEXT PROCESS? YOU MEAN THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND THEN AFTER FEMA, AND THEN AFTER YOU GO TO THE H RIGHT, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? THE GOAL ULTIMATELY IS TO REDEVELOP THE SITE IN.
AND SO I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR COMPANY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RECOGNIZED WHEN MS. ASK YOU CAME ON BOARD, AND THE AUTHORITY BROUGHT ME ON AS THE CONSULTANT, VERY CANDIDLY AND VERY OPENLY, AS YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY WE LOOKED AT AND SAID, YOU ALL HAVE AS A COMMUNITY, DONE A LOT OF WORK ALREADY FROM A STANDPOINT OF REDEVELOPMENT AND GOALS, BASED ON THE COMMUNITY, A NEIGHBORHOOD CHOICE NEIGHBORHOODS INITIATIVE.
AND SO YOU ALSO ARE GOING TO LOOK AT MAKING AN ADDITIONAL APPLICATION ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE COMMUNITY NEEDS REDEVELOPMENT.
WE ALL WOULD AGREE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND SO, BECAUSE OF THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN, WE TOOK THE FIVE POINT TRANSFORMATION PLAN AND SAID, VERY CLEARLY, THIS IS A GREAT STARTING POINT TO BEGIN WITH.
THE COMMUNITY WAS BROUGHT TOGETHER IN 2016, PRIOR TO THE 2019 FLOOD.
AND A LOT OF WORK WAS DONE IN 2016 TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.
SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE BOARD'S PERSPECTIVE IS WHY AREN'T WE REINVENT THE WHEEL? LET'S START WITH THE DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE, THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BUY-IN AND LET'S BUILD ON IT FROM THERE.
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TO ADDRESS THAT OUR GOAL IS TO REDEVELOP QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING BACK INTO COMMUNITY.SHOULD THAT HAVE A COMPONENT OF MIXED USE HOUSING THAT IS WORKFORCE RELATED? BECAUSE WE FOCUS ON THOSE AT 60% OF AMI, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO FOCUS ON THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING CLASS INDIVIDUAL THAT ARE BETWEEN A 60% AND 80% OF AMI, OR AROUND THAT 80% OF AMI AS WELL.
AND SO OUR GOALS ARE, IS TO TAKE THE CNR LONG TERM AND WORK WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, BUT USING THAT FIVE POINT TRANSFORMATION PLAN AS THE BEGINNING POINT, THAT IS LONG TERM, NOT FOR WHAT WE ULTIMATELY NEED HERE, BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND THE CONCERNS THAT IS, WE'RE NOT THROWING THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER, WE'RE STARTING WITH THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU ALL ALREADY HAVE, THAT WE THINK HAS GOOD BONES TO IT.
AND THEN LET'S AS A COMMUNITY BUILDING, RIGHT? AND THEN THAT PART OF BUILDING YOU ARE GOING BACK OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THAT WAS 2016.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE PART OF THAT ARE NO LONGER LIVING IN THE DEMO, THE DEMOGRAPHICS HAVE CHANGED.
SO I KNOW THAT WE ALWAYS UTILIZE THE CNI, BUT SOME OF THAT INFORMATION IS IT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY I SAY TO HIM, GOOD BONES.
AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS TIFFANY INDICATED AT THE BEGINNING AND WORKING WITH THE CITY AND YOU ALL IS, WE'RE LOOKING AT LOSS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE'VE BEEN DRIVING, UH, LOOKING AT LOTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
WE PROVIDE THAT TO YOUR PLAN AND DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE ALL THOSE LOTS SUITABLE, WHAT CAN WE FEEL THERE? HOW CAN WE HELP ENHANCE BASED ON DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS THAT CAN GO BACK INTO THESE COMMUNITIES? SO YES, MAY OF BEER, CLEARLY, WE'RE TAKING ALL OF THOSE FACTORS IN CONSIDERATION.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE AVAILABLE SITES WITHIN THAT AREA AND MAKING SURE THAT THE LONGTERM PLAN AND GOALS MEET WHAT THE NEEDS ARE THAT Y'ALL STARTED WITH BACK IN 2016, WHILE IT MAY BE DIFFERENT IN SOME CAPACITIES AND THE PEOPLE MAY BE DIFFERENT, BUT THE GOALS ARE THE SAME.
AND THAT IS TO DEVELOP QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THAT MARKET IS, AND JUST LAST QUESTION CENTERED HERE, WHEN, WHEN THIS DOES HAPPEN, THERE ARE STILL TRENT COURT COMMUNITIES THAT ARE THERE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DAMAGED.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS? AND IF YOU GO BACK AGAIN, UH, AND, UH, I USE THAT AS THE FRAMEWORK.
IF YOU GO BACK TO THE FRAMEWORK IN 2016, YOU ALL, AS A COMMUNITY, ALREADY HAD SOME GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AROUND THE ENTIRE SITE.
AND SO OUR GOAL WAS TO COME BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR ENTIRE SITE AND LOOK AT WHAT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE OVERALL REDEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, IS ANTIQUATED.
UH, IF YOU GO IN TRAY COURT IN SOME OF THOSE UNITS, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO MAKE QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
OUR GOAL IS TO DEVELOP THE ENTIRE MASTER PLAN OF REDEVELOPMENT FOR THAT FOUR REGION.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN PARTICULAR TONIGHT, BECAUSE AGAIN, AS YOU SAID, THAT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT'S WHERE YOU GET COMMUNITY INPUT AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO I DIDN'T WANT TO CLOUD THE SIMPLE DISCUSSION TONIGHT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW WITH THE BIGGER BROAD STROKE OF REDEVELOPMENT FOR THAT SITE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE WATERS ARE TAINTED.
SO THAT'S THE WHY , BUT WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR RECONSIDERATION OF TABLE AND ASK FOR YOU TO SUPPORT, UH, TONIGHT FOR, BECAUSE THAT HELPS US CONTINUE.
YOU ALL HAVE A LOT OF MONEY ON THE TABLE THAT HAS BEEN DELAYED SINCE 2019.
AND WE ARE VERY CANDIDLY AND OPENLY JUST TRYING TO GET THEM THE CORRECT DOCUMENTS IN THE END, WHERE WE CAN BEGIN TO MOVE THIS PROCESS DOWN TO WHERE, UM, YES, SIR.
THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED THEY'RE UNINHABITABLE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
OR HAVE THEY BEEN CONDEMNED? I MEAN, YOU CAN'T LIVE IN THEM, RIGHT? IT CAN NOT LIVE IN, SO THEY'VE GOT TO BE DEMOLISHED.
THIS PROCESS HAS TO BE COMPLETED IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE DEMOLISHED.
BUT WE STILL RECOMMEND THAT THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS BESIDES THE OTHER APPROVALS, WE STILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE LOCAL HBC TO MAKE SURE WE STILL GET THEIR APPROVALS THIS WAY.
THE QUESTIONS MAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT A RESOLUTION, APPROVING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE CITY OF NEWBURGH MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE DISCUSSION SEEING ON THE SAVVY ROLL COUNT, STARTING WITH ALDERMAN I'LL DETERMINE BENGAL.
NO ALDERMAN ASKED HER MAY YOUR OUTLIERS OTTOMAN KINSEY ALDERMAN, BEST ALDERMAN.
[7. Conduct a Public Hearing and Consider Adopting an Ordinance to Annex 3436 Old Airport Road.]
NEXT ITEM IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO ANNEX 34 36 OLD AIRPORT ROAD, HEAVY AND IRISH.TEACHY HAD PETITIONED THE CITY.
THE ANIMAL IS A ONE ACRE PARCEL AND THE
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TOWNSHIP SEVEN PETITIONER'S PLAN TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON THE PROPERTY AND RECENTLY ENTERED INTO A WATER AND SEWER USE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.THIS REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION IS REQUIRED UNDER THAT AGREEMENT.
AFTER CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING, THE BOARD IS ASKED TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY.
MR. HUGHES, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.
I TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THE AS A PUBLIC SAFETY BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS ANNEXATION AND THEY AGREED THAT IT WOULDN'T BE A BURDEN ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
IN THE FUTURE, WHEN WE DO ONE OF THESE ACCUSATIONS LIKE THAT, CAN WE ADD PUBLIC SAFETY'S APPROVAL OR A PUBLIC SAFETY HAS BEEN, UH, UM, CONSOLIDATE AND MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T PROVIDE A BURDEN TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONSIDER A DOCUMENTED PUBLIC HEARING.
EXCUSE ME, I HAVEN'T HAD TO CONDUCT QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE GET GOING.
THE STAFF ONE MAKING COMMENTS.
UM, AT THIS TIME WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE ANNEXATION OF 34 36 O AIRPORT.
RIGHT? ANYBODY LIKE CALIFORNIA, ASK QUESTIONS, MAKE COMMENTS.
YOU WANT THEM TO DO IT AT THIS TIME? NOT THE SILENT, LIKE PUBLIC HERE.
THE SECOND CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE DISCUSSION SEEING NONE? ALL IN FAVOR OF MOTION, SAY, AYE.
NOW CAN WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE? YES, SIR.
I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE ANNEX 34 36 OLD AIRPORT ROAD, SECOND MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE DISCUSSION STARTING WITH ALDERMAN ALDERMAN ITEM.
MAYOR ALDERMAN ASKED HER OUT A WOMAN HARRIS ALDERMAN VEHICLE.
[8. Consider Adopting a Resolution to Initiate the Upset Bid Process for 1106 Broad Street.]
NUMBER EIGHT.NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDER A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS FOR 1,106 BROAD STREET.
CURTIS STEWARDESS HAD BEEN IN AN OFFER OF $5,400 TO PURCHASE THIS PARTIAL TAX VALUE OF THE 0.06 ACRE PARCEL IS $10,800, AND THE OFFER REPRESENTS 50% OF THAT VALUE.
THE PROPERTY WAS ACQUIRED JOINTLY BY THE CITY AND COUNTY IN AUGUST OF 2017 THROUGH TAX FORECLOSURE, THE UNPAID TAXES, INTEREST AND PENALTIES DUE TO CRAVEN COUNTY.
AT THAT TIME WITH 1050 $1 77 CENTS, UNPAID TAXES, INTEREST AND PENALTIES DUE TO THE CITY.
AND THE CITY ALSO HAD HAD ATTACHED TO DEMOLITION LIEN IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,775 AND 86 CENTS.
IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD FOR THE INITIAL BID, THE CITY IS PROJECTED TO RECEIVE $3,513 90 CENTS.
AND THE COUNTY IS PROJECTED TO RECEIVE $1,886 AND 10 CENTS FROM THE PROCEEDS LESS THE COST TO ADVERTISE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AREA, WHICH WAS VOTED ON AND THEY AGREE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT? YES.
UM, MR. ATTORNEY, I KNOW, I SHOULD KNOW THIS.
I ASKED IT BEFORE, BUT THE COST TO ADVERTISE IS THAT SPLIT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY THREE CHARM TO THE PERSON THAT THE ENTITY THAT PAID IT.
SO THE NOBODY'S OUT OF THAT THEN? CORRECT? THAT'S OKAY.
SO, SO THIS IS THE PARCEL RIGHT BESIDE THE, UM, THE, UM, UH, MORGAN'S FUNERAL HOME RIVER'S MORGAN FUNERAL HOME.
SO HE'S GOING TO BE USING THAT PARCEL FOR PARKING OR WHAT USE IS, IS A BOARD AWARE OF WHAT YOU WOULD BE PAYING? I SPOKE TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS.
COULD HE, HAS, HE HAS ENOUGH PARKING ON THE SITE IS WHAT HE SAID TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, BUT HE CAN, UH, THE HOUSE IS SO BIG.
IT'S REALLY, ALMOST BIGGER THAN THE LOT SIZE.
SO ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WAS HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF YARD WOULD PROBABLY HELP THE HOUSE, UM, POTENTIALLY.
SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, BUT IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED ON MAYER.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS FOR 1106 BROAD STREET MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE DISCUSSION SEEING NONE THE SIDE ROW COUNT, STARTING WITH ALDERMAN BINGO, ALDERMAN THE BAGEL.
OTHER WOMAN HARRIS ALDERMAN ASKED HER MAY HARD TO RING KINSEY ALDERMAN BEST IS YES, I SHOULDN'T CARRIES ITEM NUMBER NINE.
THANKS STEINEM IS CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN UPDATED STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, LIKE TO ASK CHIEF BOYD TO COME UP AND DISCUSS THIS
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STAIRS.UM, CAN WE, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING ARE
[10. Consider Adopting a Resolution Approving a Conflict of Interest Policy for Federal and State Grant Awards and Subawards.]
OKAY.NEXT TIME I WAS A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONFLICT OF INTEREST POLICY FOR FEDERAL AND STATE GRANT AWARDS AND SUB AWARDS.
SO THE CITY RECENTLY HAD APPLIED FOR A CAMERA.
UH, WE WERE, WE WERE AWARDED THAT GRANT FOR, UH, FOR, UH, AN EXTENSION OF THE BOARDWALK AT, UH, LAWSON CREEK PARK.
AS PART OF THAT, THEY INFORMED US THAT OUR CURRENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST STATEMENTS AND POLICIES WERE NO LONGER IN EFFECT AND THAT CITIES ACROSS THE STATE WERE HAVING TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO UPDATE THIS.
SO IN ORDER FOR US TO SEE IT RECEIVE THOSE FEDERAL AND STATE GRANT FUNDS IS JUST A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH MARILYN LOCOMOTION.
WE'VE DONE RESOLUTION PROVEN CONFLICT OF INTEREST POLICY FOR FEDERAL STATE GRANT AWARDS AND SUB AWARDS, PEGA MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE DISCUSSION STAY ANONYMOUS THAT THEY WROTE CALLED STARTING WITH THE ALDERMAN ITEM? YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
I GUESS WHILE WE'RE WAITING, EXCUSE ME, BOB.
DO YOU WANT TO HEAR, WE JUST HEAR YOUR EDITING? WE'LL GET BACK ON
[9. Consider Adopting a Resolution Approving an Updated Strategic Plan for the Fire Department.]
NUMBER NINE, MR. HUGHES, IF YOU'D LIKE TO START THAT.SO, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS RECENTLY UPDATED THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN.
SHE WAY WAIT TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE UPDATES THAT THEY HAVE FOR THIS.
WELL, THIS HAS BEEN CARRYING PEOPLE DOWN THE STEPS WITHOUT BREATH.
THIS HAS BEEN A PLAN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
AS YOU KNOW, IN 2017, WE VOTED ON HIS PLAN AND WE STARTED ON THIS ONE A WHILE BACK AND IT'S INVOLVED WITH WHAT CALLED COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
WE ACTUALLY DID A COMMUNITY SURVEY WITH, WE HAD BUSINESS LEADERS COME OUT AND HAVE COMMUNITY LEADERS COME OUT AND GET A CITIZEN SURVEY.
AND BASICALLY A STRATEGIC PLANNING IS HOW WE CAN MATCH OUT WHAT COMMUNITY EXPECTS FROM US.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS WHAT'S THE OUTCOME OF THAT PRODUCT.
AND WE'RE HOPING FOR NEXT FIVE YEARS TO KIND OF GIVE US A GUIDE.
SO GIVING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT THEY EXPECT FROM US A LITTLE BIT BY MISTAKE.
I LIKE THAT ACTUALLY AS A CAPTAIN, I MEAN, COMMAND CHIEF KENDALL WILL COME UP IN BED IF YOU DON'T MIND.
CAUSE HE ACTUALLY WAS A BIG PART OF THIS AND HE WAS GLAD TO ANSWER ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ALSO CHANGED.
UM, MR. MAYOR, BOARD OF ALDERMAN, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
WE, UH, SO CHIEF SAID, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WITH A, UM, LUNCHEON FOR OUR BUSINESS LEADERS.
SOME OF YOU WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THAT.
AND FROM THERE WE DID A CITIZEN SURVEY AND A SPOT ANALYSIS OF OUR INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS WHO CAPTAINS.
AND FROM THERE, WE WERE ABLE TO, OUR ACCREDITATION TEAM WAS ABLE TO COME TOGETHER AND CREATE OUR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES FOR THIS BASICALLY OUTLINE THE ROADMAP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING THROUGH, UM, OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN HERE, ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES THERE, WE HAD BOTH FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND FROM OUR INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS WAS THE WELLNESS OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS.
UM, BOTH PHYSICAL FITNESS, WIRELESS AND MENTAL HEALTH CLASS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR PERSONNEL.
UM, THE SECOND ONE WE CAME UP WITH WAS OUR STRUCTURE AND OUR STAFF ARE CITIZENS.
THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THEM THE EQUITABLE AND ACCOUNTABLE SERVICES THAT WE PROMISE.
AND SO THEY ASKED US TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR STRUCTURE AND STAFFING FOR THAT.
FROM THERE, WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS. CHIEF FORD IS VERY, VERY, UM, SUPPORTIVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY OPERATES.
AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE SAID IN ANY OF HIS MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT HIS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY THAT HE TEACHES US IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS FIRE PREVENTION IS THE KEY.
SO THAT WEREN'T RIGHT ALONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, GETTING OUT AND BEING MORE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN GET CARRY ON THAT INITIATIVE.
ARE YOU IN MS. PROGRAM WAS SOMETHING MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE.
WE WENT THROUGH ACCREDITATION, UH, AND BECAME AN ACCREDITED FIRE DEPARTMENT BACK IN JULY OF THIS YEAR.
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THE PEER ASSESSMENT TEAM AND THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, STATED TO US WAS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF A FORMAL LOUDEST EMS PROGRAM.AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, OUR, OUR CITIZENS, OUR BUSINESS LEADERS, THAT WAS ALSO A INITIATIVE THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO SEE AS WELL.
AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS WOULD LIKE FOR US TO REEVALUATE REEVALUATE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH BMS, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER EMS SERVICE PARK COMMUNITY.
THE FIFTH THING THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS COMMUNICATIONS, BOTH OUR INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS AND, UM, SELLING OURSELVES TO THE PUBLIC, LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT WE AS A FIRE DEPARTMENT, OFFERED THEM WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THEM RIGHT NOW, AND TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM SO THAT WE CAN GET IDEAS OF WHAT THEY MIGHT HAVE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
AND FOLLOWING WE, UH, WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
UM, THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THINGS IN LINE, UM, FOR WHAT WE WOULD DO IN DIFFERENT EMERGENCIES, DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, BUT ALSO OUR INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, THOSE FIREFIGHTERS IN THE CAPTAINS, ONE OF US TO ADDRESS DIFFERENT POLICIES, AS WELL AS UPDATE SOME OF THE POLICIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
SO THOSE WERE OUR INITIATIVES THAT, THAT WE CAME UP WITH INITIATIVES FROM THERE, WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH OUR GOALS AND THE CRITICAL TASKING THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO TO ACCOMPLISH THESE INITIATIVES, THE ACCREDITATION TEAM, WE THEN PRESENTED IT TO THE COMMAND STAFF AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND, UM, THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND THE BOOKLET THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, WHERE YOU WERE PRESENTED IS, IS THE FINAL OUTCOME OF THIS.
AND WE'RE HOPING THAT TONIGHT THAT YOU WILL ADOPT THIS AS BEEN FIRE RISK USE, UM, 20, 22 STRATEGIC PLAN, ANY QUESTIONS, AN ANSWER, UH, QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, WAS THAT ANONYMOUS OR DID THEY PROVIDE INFORMATION LIKE WHERE THE, THAT WAS ANONYMOUS? UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE ACCREDITATION TEAM HAS LOOKED AT IS WHEN WE DID THIS BACK IN 2017, UM, WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF NEW-BORN AND CRAIG COUNTY THAT GAVE THEIR INPUT.
UM, WE WORKED WITH, UM, COLLEEN TO MAKE THIS MORE SPECIFIC TO OUR AREA.
UM, SO WE, WE WERE ABLE TO GET AWAY FROM SOME OF THOSE OUTSIDE SOURCES, SEEING WHAT THEY THINK WE NEED TO BE DOING.
AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW WHAT WE OFFER HERE.
SO IT WAS SPECIFIC TO NUMEROUS TIME.
HOWEVER, THE ACCREDITATION TEAM IS ALREADY WORKING ON A PROCESS TO WHERE WE CAN, CAN BETTER ISOLATE.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, EVEN WITH OUR BUSINESS LEADERS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE PRESENTED THE COMMAND STAFF WAS BAD.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DEAL WITH RETAIL, BUT THEN WE DEAL WITH INDUSTRY AND THEN WE DEAL WITH COMMERCIAL.
SO WE'RE GETTING ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT AVENUES TO LOOK AT.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT WAYS, BUT WE DID NOT DURING THIS PROCESS, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO SEPARATE IT OUT INTO DISTRICT.
SO WHEN WE WERE AT THE STOP, WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY GOOD.
IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WITHIN THIS PLAN, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC.
UM, YOU WANT THE TRUST OF THE COMMUNITIES WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THE INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT I JUST KNOW WHEN YOU COME OUT FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, HOW THE CHILDREN ARE SO OVERWHELMED, THEY JUST, WITH JOY OF GETTING ON THAT FIRE TRUCK, IT MAY BE A FUTURE FIREFIGHTER FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURGH SOMEDAY.
AND I JUST LIKED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT YOUR FIREFIGHTERS GOING TO BE MORE INTER INTERACT MORE WITH THE PUBLIC AND THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING A DIVERSIFIED AGENCY, WHICH IS, WHICH IS A PLUS.
I JUST THANK YOU T BOARD AND YOU SERVE YOUR LAST NAME AGAIN.
SHE TEND TO THANK YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY.
AND WE CAN'T DO YOU CAN'T DO WE GET THE CITY WOULD NOT OPERATE WITHOUT YOU AS WELL AS I SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CANNOT NOT OPERATE WITHOUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
ONE, UM, I THINK POWERPOINT HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AND OUTREACH INTO THE COMMUNITY AND LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY.
I ALSO THINK IT'S GETTING TIME SINCE CHIEF BOYD IS NEARING RETIREMENT.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TALK HIM OUT OF IT ALL THE TIME.
I THINK IT'S WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN SOONER THAN LATER.
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THAT HOW MANY YEARS HE GOT IN NOW, 31, 31 YEARS, THAT IT'S ONE OF THEM THINGS THAT HE CAN GO ANY DAY, STAY FOR ABOUT FIVE MORE.BUT HOWEVER, WHEN I RETIRED FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, CHIEF BOY WAS MY DEPUTY CHIEF.
THAT POSITION WAS LOST WHEN, WHEN I RETIRED AND HE BECAME CHIEF.
IT'S SO VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT DEPUTY CHIEF'S POSITION.
SO SOMEONE CAN STEP IN WHEN HE STEPS OUT.
UH, HE'S PROBABLY THE LARGEST, ONE OF THE LARGEST DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY.
AND AS FAR AS DAYTIME STAFF IS CONCERNED AS HIM AND ONE OTHER PERSON.
AND THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR TWO PEOPLE TO MANAGE.
SO AS I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY CONSIDER IN THIS YEAR'S UPCOMING BUDGET TO PUT THAT DEPUTY CHIEFS, THE POSITION IS STILL THERE.
I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT DEPUTY CHIEF POSITION BACK AND ACTUALLY FUNDED.
SO, UM, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, GIVE THE CHIEF SOME ASSISTANCE.
THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND UPDATED STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT MOTION.
AND SECOND IS THERE DISCUSSION EVERY LITTLE QUESTION I WOULD LIKE THIS CHIEF.
SO CHIEF RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE THE CHIEF.
SO WHO FOLLOWS BENDER ON BEHALF OF THE CAPTAIN OR COMMANDER? WHAT NOW? RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN IF, UM, AFTER YOU LOOK AT THE HIERARCHY IT'S MADE, THEN THERE WAS A DEVIN SHAPE.
BUT UNDERNEATH THAT YOU HAVE DIVISION CHIEFS AND DIVISION CHIEF WHO GOT TRAINED IN DIVISION, WHICH IS MCCONNELL.
AND THEN WE HAVE FIRE PREVENTION DIVISION, WHICH IS HE'LL FIRE MARSHALL HILL.
AND THEN WE'D HAVE THE BATTALION CHIEF, WHICH WERE OVER THE SHIFTS, WHICH TINDER WAS EVERY ONE OF THE SHIFTS.
SO THAT'S THE WAY THE HIERARCHY WORKS.
AND SO THEY'RE ALL CROSS TRAINED, CORRECT? JUST SOME CROSS TRAINED.
WE JUST RAISED IT EASIER TO KNOCK, BUT THE PROBLEM IS MOST OF THEM WORK SHIFT WORK, AND NOT THERE EVERY DAY.
IT MAY BE SEVEN, EIGHT DAYS BEFORE YOU SEE ONE OF THEM AGAIN, LET'S SAY YOU WAS AT A NORMAL WHERE WE GOING TO ADD ONE IN SIX INDIVIDUALS SO THAT WE CAN BETTER, UH, UM, I WOULDN'T SAY BETTER, BUT UTILIZE OUR, UH, FIREMAN FOR MEDICAL RESPONSE.
CAN WE TACK THAT ON THERE TOO? YEAH, ALWAYS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR HAS BEEN, BEEN TALKING ABOUT RUNNING A WHAT WE CALL THEM FIRE SERVICE, A FIRING SQUAD FOR YEARS, AND A FIRING SQUAD COULD BE A, UH, PICKUP AS SIMPLE AS A PICKUP TRUCK WITH, UM, UM, TWO OR THREE FIREMEN THAT ARE EMS CERTIFIED THAT CAN RESPOND TO HEART ATTACK CALLS AND ALSO CAN RESPOND TO STRUCTURE FIRES OR ANY OTHER TYPE FIRES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY, YOU KNOW, AND GIVE HIM ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL.
DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY FEEL WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT BASICALLY ON THE STATISTICS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO US DURING THE BUDGET, THAT MOST OF THE CALLS ARE MORE MEDICAL.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S IMPORTANT AND GREAT, UM, ALLOCATION OF FUNDS.
BUT I, I AGREE WITH THE DEPUTY POSITION.
I MEAN, WHATEVER TO MAKE SURE IT GETS FUNDED, THERE NEEDS TO BE A REPLACEMENT WHEN FOSTER LEAVES, WE HAVE AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, IF I DON'T WANT CHIEF TO GET BURNT OUT TO A POINT WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO RETIRE, WE NEED YOU TO, WELL, HE'S DOING A WHOLE LOT OF WORK BY HIMSELF AND HE NEED SOMEBODY TO, TO START LEARNING THE ROPES.
I DEFINITELY, I DEFINITELY JUST SUPPORT THAT.
WE, YOU KNOW, TH THIS CITY IS VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE A HOSPITAL THAT RUNS EMS AND RUNS AND SERVICE IN MOST CITIES, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RUNS THAT.
AND I THINK THAT WE, UM, WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT EXPENSE.
AND AS LONG AS THE HOSPITAL WANTS TO CONTINUE RUNNING AN AMBULANCE SERVICE, I THINK THEY SHOULD.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHEN YOU LIVE OVER, JUST, JUST IMAGINE, UM, HOW LONG IT MIGHT TAKE FOR AN AMBULANCE TO GET TO A HEART ATTACK VICTIM OVER, EVEN JUST IN OUR 55.
YOU REMEMBER, WE ALL REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED AT THE, UH, WATER POINT AND THE WATER PLANET, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT THERE WITHIN TWO OR THREE MINUTES AND BEING ABLE TO START DOING MEDICAL WORK IS JUST IT'S LIFESAVING.
AND I SEE IT, I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME RESPONDING INTO, TO BURN OUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT MAY TAKE A FEW MINUTES
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FOR AN AMBULANCE TO GET THERE.AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY COME INTO THE BURNER FOR MEDICAL EMERGENCIES ALL THE TIME.
UH, AND IT'S TO BURN, IT GETS OLDER, THEY'RE GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE OF THOSE CALLS OUT THERE.
SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT I THINK DEFINITELY WE NEED TO GIVE CHEAP BOY, HIS DEPUTY CHIEF'S POSITION BACK THAT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE LASTED FOR A YEAR OR TWO.
AND IT'S BEEN, I DON'T KNOW, I'VE BEEN RETIRED NOW SINCE 2015.
FARRAH IS HE'S BEEN ON IT THAT LONG BY HIMSELF.
WHY SECOND? UM THE IRON TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE DID HAVE MOTION DISCUSSION.
SEE IT ON A SATURDAY ROLL CALL.
MAYOR OUTLAW ASKED HER ON A WOMAN HEARS YES.
[11. Appointment(s).]
APPOINTMENTS.ALDERMAN, ALDERMAN, BEST KINSEY ASS, PROBABLY WOMAN HARRIS AND ALDERMAN.
I HAVE NONE, BUT OUR INSTRUCTION SHEET SAYS WE NEED TO APPOINT THE BOARD NEEDS TO APPOINT SOMEBODY TO CHARISMA, WHICH IS THE CRUSTAL REGIONAL SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY.
AND, UM, IT'S ASKING THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER A POINTING OUT AA.
OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY WHO SITS ON THAT.
SO I MAKE THAT MOTION THAT THIS BOARD APPOINTS OUT SECOND MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE SURVEY ROLL CALL STARTED WITH ALL THE BINGO ALDERMAN BINGO.
OTTERMAN ASKED HER, MAY YOUR ALBUM ORDERING BNC ALDERMAN DESK ITEM.
[12. Attorney' s Report.]
ATTORNEY'S REPORT AND IT WAS BOARDED OUT ONE ITEM TONIGHT.UM, WE HAVE SOME UNFINISHED BUSINESS TO CLEAN UP REGARDING THE LAST VOTE ON THE MOU.
MY OFFICE CONTROLS THE FLOW OF LEGAL DOCUMENTS.
UM, ONCE THE MAYOR EXECUTES DOCUMENTS, I CONTROL WHERE THEY GO.
UM, VERY QUICKLY AFTER THE LAST MEETING, UM, IT APPEARED THAT THE BOARD MAY WANT TO, UM, REFLECT AND RECONSIDER THAT MOU.
I HAVE NOT VOTED FOR EXECUTION.
YOU HAVE, BEFORE YOU A DRAFT MOU THAT REMOVES ALL REFERENCE TO THE GIDEON POINT PARK.
I GRABBED THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE EMAIL THAT I SAW, UM, WHICH WAS I HAVE A PRESS RELEASE OF SOME KIND FROM COLLEEN REGARDING KESSLER'S, UM, UH, REQUEST TO WITHDRAW FROM THE BARK AND THE MAYOR'S STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF THAT REQUEST.
UM, SO WE REMOVED THE SECTION REGARDING THE PARK.
WE'VE REMOVED ALL REFERENCES TO THE PARK AND, UM, AS A FIVE O'CLOCK CAST UP, ATTORNEY HAS APPROVED THAT THIS DRAFT, UM, SUBJECT TO YOUR APPROVAL.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS MOU, THE BOARD WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RESCIND THE LAST VOTE, TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR, TO SIGN THE LAST MOU AND APPROVE THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, WHICH WOULD APPROVE THIS REPLACEMENT.
A NINE SEVERAL CALLS STARTED WITH ALDERMAN ALDERMAN, ALDERMAN DESK, ORDERING KINSEY MAY OUTLAW OTTOMAN, ASTERISKS AUTO WOMAN, HARRIS, ALDERMAN BAGEL.
UH, ANY OTHER ATTORNEY BUSINESS? NO, SIR.
[13. City Manager's Report.]
CITY MANAGERS REPORT GOT A FEW THINGS.UH, MAYOR, UH, WHEN THE BOARD APPROVED HIS 2022 MEETING SCHEDULE, MARCH 8TH WAS REMOVED FROM THE ROSTER BECAUSE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED TO BE ELECTION DAY.
NOW THAT THE CITY ELECTION HAS BEEN MOVED TO MAY 17TH, IT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THAT MEETING BACK TO THE ROSTER, IF YOU SO DESIRE.
UM, THE MOTION SHOULD INCLUDE THE DATE, TIME AND LOCATION.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REINSTATE THAT MEETING FOR MARCH 8TH OR SIX O'CLOCK IN SYDNEY.
AND SECOND, IS THERE DISCUSSION SEEING NONE? THE SANDY ROAD STARTED STARTING THE FOUNDER OF THE BINGO ALDERMAN BENGAL AUTO LOMAN, HARRIS, ALDERMAN ASTROS, MAYOR, ALDERMAN KINSEY, ALDERMAN, BEST ALDERMAN, ANY OTHER CITY MANAGERS? YES, SIR.
ONE WEEK WE HAD A BIT OPENING FOR THE CITY HALL ELEVATOR PROJECT.
LAST THURSDAY, WE ONLY RECEIVED TWO BIDS.
SO BY LAW WE COULD NOT OPEN THOSE.
WE RE ADVERTISED THIS PROCESS AND WE DO HAVE THE, UH,
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AND RESCHEDULED FOR THIS THURSDAY.SO WE WILL BE OPENING ANY BIDS THAT ARE RECEIVED AT THAT TIME.
UH, WE'LL REVIEW THAT WITH THE ARCHITECT.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, UH, AND GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
UM, NEXT THING IS ON MARCH EIGHT, UM, COMFORT AIR.
WE'LL BE INSTALLING A NEW HVAC UNIT ON THE SIDE OF THE OLD BAXTER STORE ON POLLOCK STREET.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A TEMPORARY STREET CLOSURE FROM 6:30 AM TO 7:30 AM ON THAT MARCH EIGHT.
SO WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO TEMPORARILY CLOSE THAT AND FIRE CHIEF ALSO INFORMED ME TODAY THAT THE 9 11 9 11 MEMORIAL WILL BE INSTALLED BESIDE THE FIREMAN'S MUSEUM ON MARCH 8TH AS WELL.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT TEMPORARILY CLOSING THE NORTHBOUND, UM, UH, PART OF HANCOCK STREET TO WHERE THEY GET THE CRANE TO UNLOAD THEIR HOT.
NOW I THINK, I THINK THAT'S CHANGED.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE SOUTHBOUND LANE OF BROAD STREET FOR THE CRANE HAS TO SET UP THE BROAD STREET.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO SET UP ON HANCOCK STREET.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO MESS WITH RAILROAD.
SO THAT IS TWO TO TWO TEMPORARY CLOSURES ARE COMING UP.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THOSE.
UH, ONCE WE HAVE MORE DETAILS, WE'LL DEFINITELY LET LET YOU KNOW.
AND COLLEEN WILL ALSO INFORMED THE PUBLIC OF THOSE AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
UM, COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON MARK MARIANNE? I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS ARE ASKING ME ABOUT THE PLAYGROUND AND ACCESSIBILITY AND JUST UPDATE US ON THAT.
AND I, I THINK THE FULL BLAME FOR THIS, WE'VE BEEN SO BUSY WITH SOME OTHER THINGS.
WE'RE GETTING READY TO OPEN THAT THING UP AND HAVE A GRAND OPENING.
UM, AND WE'LL PROBABLY MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT NEXT WEEK ON WHEN THAT WILL BE, BUT EVERYTHING IS PRETTY MUCH DONE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INSTALLING SOME SIGNS.
UM, AND IT REALLY LOOKS NICE OUT THERE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAPPY HAVING THE GRAND OPENING.
WE'LL PROBABLY OFFER HOT DOGS TO EVERYONE THAT COMES OUT AND THEN THERE'LL BE A GOOD EVENT.
[14. New Business.]
NEW BUSINESS OUT OF MY BINGO.UM, NOTHING TONIGHT'S ARE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME, SUPPORT, UH, KIND WORDS, UH, RESPECTFUL WORDS.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THIS IS A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY WE LIVE IN AND APPRECIATE THOSE WHO DO THEIR HOMEWORK AND GET CORRECT INFORMATION.
UM, MR. FOSTER, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE FOR HIRING THE REDEVELOPMENT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR? YES, MA'AM.
UM, WE, UH, WE ARE, WE HAVE JUST ABOUT FINISHED WITH A RECRUITMENT BROCHURE, BUT WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO THE, UH, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DAYS FOR WANTED TO SEE IF THEY'D BE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH US ON GETTING A, AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO A HEAD HUNTER, SO TO SPEAK, TO HELP ADVERTISE THIS POSITION AND HELP VET THIS, THIS POSITION.
SO WE ANTICIPATE THE PROCESS WILL TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS, BUT THE GOAL IS TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE CANDIDATE TO HELP THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
AND DURING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, WE'LL SABRINA MI AND BEST BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH THE INTERVIEW.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CONSULTANT, WHOEVER WE USE, WE'LL BE DOING THAT.
SO THERE THERE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR INPUT AND WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
AND THEN, UM, MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, UM, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO HAVE THE SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT COME TO A BOARD MEETING AND EXPLAIN, UM, CODE OF ETHICS? YES, BECAUSE I HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT REACH OUT AND CONCERN OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT OUT THERE, UM, IN REGARDS TO, UM, FINANCIAL ETHIC VIOLATION OR JUST ETHICS IN, IN GENERAL, UM, VERY CONCERNING AND, UM, I WANT FACTS TO BE OUT THERE, SO THAT THERE'S A TRUE UNDERSTANDING.
UM, SO I NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HAVE SOMEONE COME OUT HERE AND EXPLAIN THAT PROCESS.
UM, WHAT WERE YOU AT A SCHOOL GOVERNMENT TO BORROW AND SEE IF WE CAN SCHEDULE SOMEONE TO COME IN AND MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
AND WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN, UM, ATTORNEY DAVIS, UH, WHAT AN ETHICS VIOLATION SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND? WELL, WE HAVE TWO MAIN STATUTES, UM, AND A GIVE THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION, A PROFESSOR FROM THE SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT.
THEY CAN TAKE A DEEPER DIVE, BUT THERE ARE TWO GENERAL PRINCIPLES WE DEAL WITH.
ONE IS IN 1 68 DASH 75 AS A STATE STATUTE THAT STARTS WITH THE PRESUMPTION THAT YOU HAVE A DUTY TO VOTE, RIGHT? THAT'S CONTRARY TO WHAT MOST PEOPLE THINK YOU HAVE RUN FOR OFFICE.
THE PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN YOU POWER TO MAKE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, AND THEY EXPECT YOU TO VOTE PUBLICLY AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THE RULES MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO GO TAKE COVER AND NOT VOTE, CORRECT.
IF IT WORKS TO YOUR POLITICAL ADVANTAGE SOMETIMES TO
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NOT VOTE ON TOUGH ISSUES.SO WE START WITH THE PRESUMPTION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE.
THE EXCEPTION IS IF YOU HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST, A DIRECT FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE MATTER THAT YOU ARE VOTING ON.
AND IT HAS TO BE UNIQUE AND SPECIFIC TO YOU.
FOR EXAMPLE, ALL OF YOU HAVE HAD AN INTEREST IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
THINGS HAPPEN IN THAT BUDGET STREETS GET PAID THAT YOU DRIVE ON TREES, GET PLANTED IN YOUR COMMUNITIES.
SO ALL OF YOU BENEFIT WHEN YOU ADOPT THE ANNUAL BUDGET, THAT IS NOT A CONFLICT, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN ISSUE THAT YOU ARE VOTING ON SPECIFICALLY THAT APPLIES TO YOU OR AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER.
COMMON EXAMPLES WE SEE ACROSS THE STATE ARE, UM, A SPOUSE OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL OWNS AN INSURANCE COMPANY.
AND THAT COMPANY BIDS ON CITY INSURANCE, THAT WOULD BE A DIRECT FINANCIAL INTEREST ON WHICH YOU WOULD BE PRECLUDED FROM VOTING.
WE THEN GO TO THE CRIMINAL STATUTES IN 14 DASH, 2 34.
AND THOSE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF DIRECT FINANCIAL INTEREST REQUIRES DISCLOSURE AND PRECLUDES THAT PERSON FROM VOTING.
AND IT'S, IT'S VERY SIMILAR, BUT A LITTLE MORE PRECISE.
UM, AND WHAT IT'S LOOKING TO IS WHETHER YOU OWN AN INTEREST OR HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT OWNS AN INTEREST OF 10% OR MORE IN THE ENTITY, THAT IS A SUBJECT TO A CONTRACT THAT YOU ARE VOTING.
IF YOU HAVE THAT OWNERSHIP INTEREST, AS I WAS DESCRIBING AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU HAVE A DUTY TO DISCLOSE.
I WOULD ARGUE YOU HAVE A DUTY UNDER BOTH STATUTES, WHETHER YOUR INTEREST IS A HALF A PERCENT OR 10%.
IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN A CONTRACT BEFORE THE BOARD, YOU ARE, YOU ARE WISE TO DISCLOSE IT TO THE BOARD, AND THEN WE CAN ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN BE EXCUSED FROM VOTING BASED ON THAT INTEREST FROM THE CRIMINAL STATUTE.
IF YOU DON'T, IT'S A CRIME AND MORE INTERESTINGLY, IF YOU DON'T DISCLOSE IT, THE CONTRACT IS VOID.
MEANING AT ANY POINT IN THE FUTURE, IF IT'S DISCOVERED THAT YOU VOTED ON A MATTER IN WHICH YOU HAD AN INTEREST, THE CONTRACT STOPS AND IT'S VOID.
SO IT HARMS EVERY PARTY TO THAT CONTRACT.
AND WHAT WOULD BE YOUR LEGAL DEFINITION OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, THOSE TWO THINGS.
SO THERE'S NO OTHER FORM OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT SITS ON HIS BOARD AND THINGS THAT THEY VOTE ON IN INTERACTIONS THAT THEY DO.
SO, UM, UM, SO THIS, THIS IS WHERE I'M CONFUSED ON WHERE THERE'S TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE WHEN ACTIONS ARE TAKEN ON THIS BOARD, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS COME, WHETHER IT'S IN MY WARD OR NOT.
SO AN ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN ABOUT A SPECIFIC OLDER MEN, UM, SABRINA BINGO, AND IT WAS NOT AN OPINION.
IT WAS ALL FACTS OF INFORMATION BECAUSE OF A FOYER REQUEST.
SO IF WE WERE VOTING ON AN MOU WITH THE KESSLER GROUP, RIGHT, SHE SENT AN EMAIL SIX DAYS AFTER SHE PURCHASED LAND OVER IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE SHE SHOWED THEM, YOU SHOULD PURCHASE THIS WATERFRONT, RIGHT? IF THEY WERE TO PURCHASE THIS WATERFRONT AND BUILD IT UP, THE TAX VALUE WILL RAISE, HOW WAS THAT NOT A FINANCIAL GAME? HOW WAS THAT? NOT UNETHICAL TO EMAIL THEM PROPERTY OVER IN THE AREA WHERE YOU PURCHASE TO A GROUP THAT THE CITY WAS HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH.
I WAS NOT INCLUDED A DISCUSSION WITH IN REGARDS TO UNION POINT A TALBOT'S BUILDING AND THE ELKS BUILDING.
AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE, MAYBE ARE AFRAID TO COME AND ASK THESE QUESTIONS TO ALDERMAN, DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW A GOVERNMENT ENTITY OR EVEN THE SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT COULD NOT SEE THAT AS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I NEED THE SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT TO COME.
AND SO CITIZENS CAN UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THAT'S NOT TRANSPARENCY.
THAT TO ME, THERE'S A LACK OF INTEGRITY IN THIS SITUATION.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE DO NOT ADDRESS THIS WHILE WE PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A POLICY.
WE MAKE POLICY FOR SOCIAL MEDIA AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY IN REGARDS TO HOW THERE IS LACK OF INTEGRITY IN THIS, IN THIS PROCESS.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THE FOUR YEAR, FOUR YEARS, LIKE PEOPLE CAN PULL THIS INFORMATION AND IT WAS NOT OPINION.
IT WAS FACT, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS OKAY THAT THAT HAPPENED.
UNFORTUNATELY, ALL THE OLDER WOMAN HARRIS, YOU DON'T KNOW ALL THE FACTS.
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PROPERTY, WE WERE CO WAS OWNED BY THE NEWBURN PRESERVATION FOUNDATION WHO US ALMOST A YEAR PRIOR TO PURCHASE IT, BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN SITTING THERE EMPTY AND WE OWN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.AND YOU PURCHASED IT FOR $20,000 THAT IS ORIGINALLY SOLD FOR $200,000.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE, IT'S IT'S THERE WAS A HOUSE THAT WAS DEMOLISHED ON THERE.
IT WAS CALLED THE MAMIE SABOTEUR STORE AND IT WAS TORN DOWN.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS, BUT I WILL, BECAUSE THIS IS REAL.
THIS IS, AND HAD MS. CARTER HAD THE DECENCY TO ASK ME THIS PRIOR TO POSTING THE ARTICLE, I COULD HAVE SENT HER TO THE PEOPLE WHO COULD HAVE CONFIRMED THIS.
THEY CAME TO US AND WOULD YOU PLEASE PURCHASE IT ASKED US TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS.
WE DID CLOSE IT TO EVERYTHING.
IT TOOK A YEAR ALMOST TO CLOSE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, HAD NOTHING TO DO OR WINSTON DENSELY THAT IT CLOSED A WEEK PRIOR TO ME SENDING THE EMAIL.
BUT KESSLER'S ASKED WHAT WATERFRONT PROPERTY IS THERE AVAILABLE IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
SO THAT WAS THE PIECE ON NORTH FRANKLIN STREET.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST PIECE OF PROPERTY EMPTY.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
HOW DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MY JOB AS AN ALDERMAN? I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT OUR FAMILY HAS LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
THEY DO OWN PROPERTY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE BEEN THERE FOR ALL THOSE YEARS.
YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHATEVER, IT HELPS EVERYBODY.
WE TO TRY TO PUT THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER IS JUST NITPICKING AT STUFF.
FOR, FOR WHAT REASON? I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT I'M BEING PICKED ON, BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE I'M HERE, I'M GOING TO SERVE.
I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO SERVE WITH INTEGRITY.
I'VE DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL WRONG.
AND WE'VE HAD THE CITY ATTORNEY MAKE THAT STATEMENT.
ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT YOU HAVE READ AND WAS PUT IN THAT ARTICLE BY MS. CARD WAS JUST THINGS TO PULL OUT OF THE AIR.
AS FAR AS THE SIDEWALK THAT SHE MENTIONED, THE $38,000 THAT WAS, AND I HAVE A LETTER THAT SAYS STAFF DETERMINED WHAT SIDEWALKS THEY WERE GOING TO USE.
THE SIDEWALKS WERE BY THE SALVATION ARMY, NOWHERE NEAR MY PROPERTY.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SAVE YOUR, USE YOUR ENERGY FOR DOING SOMETHING, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO NEED HOMES.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED OF SO MANY THINGS IN OUR CITY.
JUST START WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU REPRESENT.
LET'S NOT ACTUALLY, IS THAT, IS THAT YEAH.
THAT I'M THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY CALLED KESSLER AND HAD HIM AND GOT HIM IN TOUCH WITH THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY.
THE EMAIL SHOWED THAT SHE EMAILED BECAUSE THEY ASKED ME TO SEND THEM THE PACKAGE THAT ALDERMAN ASKED HER, MADE THE CONTACT FOR ME BECAUSE HE KNEW THE OLD AGAIN.
IF IT WAS ANYBODY ELSE, THEY WOULD BE ON THE FRONT PAGE NEWS THAT THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONCERN.
I DON'T, I DON'T CARE HOW YOU LABEL IT OUT.
AND YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T COME TO ME, SABRINA ABOUT WHAT MY ENERGY IS USED FOR, BECAUSE I FIGHT FOR PUBLIC, UH, FOR, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOOKS, YOU'RE OUT HERE WORKING DEALS TO BRING, UH, A HOTEL DOWNTOWN SO THAT WE CAN MAKE MONEY.
NO, YOU ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE MONEY TO SPEND IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEY HAVE AND SEEN NOTHING IN HOW MANY YEARS, BECAUSE JUST, WE CHANGED THE NAME TO WRITE HER FIVE POINTS USING THE CNI.
AND WHERE'S THE BENEFIT FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
WE'RE GOING TO, WE, YOU, YOU VOTED.
BUT THE KEY WORD, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THIS AS MARKET RENT, DON'T WE HAVE ENOUGH MARKET RENT ON HOMES RIGHT NOW.
WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE LIVING FROM FLORENCE THAT HAVE TARPS ON THEIR HOUSE.
SO WE SIT HERE IN THESE SIDE DEALS AND MAKE THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT GIVING INCENTIVE FOR HOTELS TO COME DOWN HERE.
BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE AT THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT HAD TO CLIMB UP A MOUNTAIN TO COME DOWN, JUST TO BRING SOME SORT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE'RE ON A NEW BID, RIGHT? I'M DISCUSSING UNDER NEW BUSINESS AND GOING INTO THE REDEVELOPMENT ATTACK.
THEN I NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT.
AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT AN ATTACK.
I'M NOT THE ONE THAT CHECK IN.
YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE TALK TO ME, I HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE ONE MORE THING TO ASK THEM.
THE NEXT THING IS, IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT, I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TO PUT IT ON RECORD, BUT THE REDEVELOPMENT WAS CREATED AND APPOINTED SO THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS COULD BE ON THE COMMISSION
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AND DO THE WORK THAT'S IN, THAT'S NEEDED WITH THE CNR THAT WAS VOTED ON.RIGHT? THE THREE OF US WERE ONE, TWO AND FIVE ARE EX OFFICIOS.
I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THESE MEETINGS.
I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THESE MEETINGS BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT, THAT, OR DOES UNDER MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, SCOTT HELPED ME FARM WRONG.
THEY STILL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO US FOR US TO VOTE ON, CORRECT.
FOR CERTAIN REAL ESTATE PROJECTS.
AND THEN WHAT ABOUT FOR REAL ESTATE PROJECTS THEN? WHAT ELSE? BECAUSE WHEN WE APPROVE THE PLAN, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE HAD TO VOTE ON.
MAJORITY OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO, THE BOARD HAS TO VOTE ON.
SO WHAT, WHAT DOES THE BOARD, WHAT DOES THE BOARD VOTE ON WHEN IT COMES TO REDEVELOPMENT? BECAUSE IF WE GO BACK TO THE MEETINGS, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT WAS STATED.
IT WAS STATED THAT WHATEVER THEY DO, THEY STILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO GET A VOTE ON.
WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY IF THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR MONEY.
SO MONEY IS A BIG THING, MONEY, UM, SALE OF REAL PROPERTY.
AND, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IN THE PLAN THAT WE VOTED ON.
SO UNLESS I'M NEEDED AT THE ME AND I LET THESE INDIVIDUALS DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IN REGARDS TO WHAT THEIR, WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE A PASSION TO DOING THE COMMITTEE? I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO BE AT THOSE MEETINGS.
SO I JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE ON THE COMMITTEE, UM, I'M AN EX-OFFICIO I DON'T, I GO TO THE MEETINGS WHEN THEY ASKED ME TO GO TO THE MEETINGS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, I'M JUST, I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, JUST SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND MR. MAYOR, THAT I DON'T GO TO THOSE MEETINGS ALL THE TIME.
YOU UNDERSTAND? UM, I GO TO THE MEETINGS WHEN I'M NEEDED AND, AND, AND THAT'S IT.
UM, ARE WE ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THE RECENT INFORMATION THAT HAPPENED WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT? UM, WE WORK MORE ON THE NEW BUSINESS, UNDER NEW BUSINESS, RIGHT? SO ARE WE ALLOWED TO STATE THE INFORMATION I RECEIVED IN THE EMAIL THAT TWO PEOPLE RESIGNED FROM THE REDEVELOPMENT, RIGHT.
SO HOWEVER YOU WANT TO GO ABOUT ACQUAINTING THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO THE REDEVELOPMENT.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO GO ABOUT PUTTING OUT THAT INFORMATION? THAT TWO PEOPLE RESIGNED FROM THE BOARD AND WE NEED TWO PEOPLE TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT? THERE'S A MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT AND, UH, YOU SHOULD SPEAK TO CHAIR, WOMAN LEE, BECAUSE THE TWO INDIVIDUALS MAY ATTEMPT.
SO YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD SPEAK TO HER.
SO I DON'T, THEY ARE HAVING A MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT.
YOU'RE GOING TO TALK TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND, UM, CIRCULATE, BUT THE BOARD DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPOINT THOSE INDIVIDUALS, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
ASTRO, YOU HAVE A NEW BUSINESS.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, I GUESS THE, UM, THE LITTER SIGNS, THOSE LITTLE SIGNS THAT IS A REGULAR AROUND DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY, UM, IS THAT SOMETHING COMES THROUGH, UM, PUBLIC WORK.
CAN I IT'S IT'S JUST SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM WITH LITTER ALL OVER THE CITY.
AND, UM, I KNOW ME AND MY HUSBAND AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE HAVE COME OUT AND START PICKING UP LITTER.
AND IS THERE A WAY I COULD HAVE A SIGN PUT OUT ON HIGHWAY 55? OH YES.
THAT IS, BUT WE'LL GET STARTED WORKING ON THAT AND REASON WHY I SAID THE CITIES, BECAUSE THAT IS THE CITY LIMITS, RIGHT.
IT MIGHT BE A STATE HIGHWAY, BUT IT IS THE CITY LIMITS.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO GET A LETTER SIGN PUT IN PLACE THAT WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO SAY, I HAVE TO CONCUR WITH ALL MY GOOGLE ON FOUR, AS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS CONCERNED.
I TOO AM AN EX-OFFICIO MEMBER.
I DO NOT GO TO THOSE MEETINGS ALL THE TIME, BUT I DO WATCH THOSE MEETINGS.
I VIEWED THOSE MEETINGS AND I FEEL THE SAME THAT SHE DOES.
WE AS A BOARD, WE'D CHARGE THAT COMMISSION TO DO A JOB.
SO I DON'T FEEL THAT I NEED TO BE THERE TO EVERY MEETING MAYOR TO CONDUCT BUSINESS WITH THAT REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M NOT THERE AT ALL MEETINGS, BUT MOVING FORWARD, I THINK IT IS, IT WOULD BEHOOVE ME TO ATTEND SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS.
UM, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
[15. Closed Session.]
WE NEED ANY CLOSED SESSION? YES, MAYOR BRIEFLY IN A CLOSED SESSION AT 1 43, 3 8, 6 TO DISCUSS A PERSONNEL MATTER, MAKE A MOTION.[01:30:02]
WE HAVE MOTION SECOND TO HAVE A SESSION.IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION, SAY AYE.