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[1. Meeting opened by Mayor Dana E. Outlaw. Prayer Coordinated by Alderwoman Harris. Pledge of Allegiance.]
LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE MARCH 18TH, THE EIGHTH MEETING OF THE NEW BOARD OF ALDERMAN TONIGHT, THE PRAYER WILL BE GIVEN BY ALL THE WOMEN, JAMAICA HARRIS.THANK YOU EVERYBODY BY YOUR HEAD, FATHER, GOD, WE COME TO YOU TONIGHT AND WE JUST ASK TO GIVE US GUIDANCE AS WE DO THE WORK, AS WE DO THE WORK WITH INTEGRITY, UM, AND WE COME TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER ON ALL ASPECTS.
UM, WE JUST WANT TO PRAY FOR ANYBODY THAT MAY BE SICK AND SHOOK SHUT, AND, UM, ANYONE THAT COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD WANT TO BE HERE TONIGHT IN SPIRIT, WE APPRECIATE YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO IN YOUR NAME.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL MEN CORPORATE FEAR OF A WOMAN HAIRS.
PRESIDENT ALDERMAN ASKED HER HERE, PRESENT HERE.
[3. Request and Petition of Citizens.]
DO WE HAVE, UH, WE DID HAVE SOME REQUESTS WITH TASERS THAT SAYS THANK YOU.UM, LITERALLY YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND NAME FOR THE RECORD.
I'VE LIVED IN FIVE 11 METCALF STREET, NEW BERN, NORTH CAROLINA, 2 8 5 6 0.
AND WHILE I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ALDERMAN AND THE MAYOR FOR HAVING REMOVED ANY POINT PARK FROM THE MOQ, WITH THE KESSLER CORPORATION, WE TRULY APPRECIATE THAT THE PROBLEM HAS NOT BEEN SOLVED.
THE PROBLEM IS BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THIS GREEN SPACE FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS IN PERPETUITY.
UM, AND I SEND AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY ABOUT THIS, UH, LAST WEEK AND I GOT NO RESPONSE.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO READ THE EMAIL THAT'S IN YOUR INBOXES OR APT BOXES OR SOME WEEK.
IT SAYS, GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR, ALDERMAN, I AM REQUESTING THAT YOU PURSUE LEGALLY PROTECTING UNION POINT PARK FROM ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
CLEARLY CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN WANT TO HAVE THIS RESOURCE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
THE PETITION UNDER CHANGED DOT FOUR HAS OVER 10,000 SIGNATURES.
PRIOR GENERATIONS INTENDED THE PARK BEING PRESERVED.
OTHERWISE MAYOR BANGLE WOULD NOT HAVE LIMITED THE POSSIBILITY OF, UH, RE UH, PRESERVING IT.
A LOOPHOLE WAS LEFT MAKING THE SALE OF THIS PROPERTY OF POSSIBILITY.
THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS TO PRESERVE UNION POINT PARK IN PERPETUITY, INCLUDING ENVIRONMENTAL, HISTORICAL CULTURAL, FINDING THE ACTUAL AESTHETIC AND POLITICAL LEAFLY CONSERVING UNION POINT PARK WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARD REBUILDING CONFIDENCE IN CITIZENS THAT THEIR CITY LEADERS LISTENED TO THAT.
PLEASE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE THREE EIGHT VIET WAVE MEETING UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THE WILL OF SOAP, MANY CONSTITUENTS.
AND I JUST REEMPHASIZE THAT, UM, PEOPLE REALLY WANT THIS PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN, TO REMAIN FOR THE FUTURE.
I UNDERSTAND I'VE MET SOME PERSONAL FRIENDS OF YOUR MOTHER-IN-LAW AND THEY SAID THAT IT WOULD GO DOWN FOUR YEARS AFTER HE MET HER TO SPEND TIME IN THAT PARK, YOU KNOW, PAST GENERATIONS WANTED IT TO BE PRESERVED, AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT PRESERVED FOR THE FUTURE.
WHEN DID YOU SEND THE EMAIL? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND IT.
BUT MIGHT'VE WANTED TO THAT SPECIAL INBOX IS A HUNDRED.
DID, DID ANYBODY GET THE EMAIL? I DIDN'T GET IT.
NOTHING CAME BACK SAYING IT WASN'T DELIVERABLE.
I'LL TRY TO RESPOND TO EVERYTHING.
YES, MA'AM UH, DUSTIN DEVIATE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS DUSTIN PATRICK COURT, SIR, LAST MONTH ON EIGHT FEBRUARY DURING THE SAME MEETING IN REGARDS TO ITEM LEBANON, THAT AGENDA APPROVING THE MOU WITH NEWBURG HISTORIC LLC.
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GROUP IT, AND IT CONTAINED A PROVISION OF A POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT, A PART OF UNION POINT PARK.LIKE THE LADY WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE ME, WHILE I DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO DIG INTO THAT MATTER.
AS I HEARD ABOUT THAT ISSUE BEING TABLE DURING THAT AGENDA WITHIN HOURS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FOLLOWING DAYS, I WENT AHEAD AND I DUG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER.
CAUSE I'M LOCAL FUSED WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTATION.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NOT ONLY WOULD THE KESSLER COLLECTION EXPAND THE RIVER WALKWAY, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE DEBATE AND EVERYTHING PROVIDE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. LIKE SOME PEOPLE DISCUSSED AS WELL, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE MAINTENANCE AND THE UPKEEP OF ALL OF UNION POINT PARK.
THAT'S FROM WHAT I READ, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
IF THAT IS TRUE, I MIGHT NEED TO REVISE MY POSITION ON DEVELOPING PART OF UNION BOARD PARK BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN REPROGRAMMED THEN FOR OTHER THINGS LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WHATEVER ISSUES THAT THE INDIVIDUAL OLDER MEN AND WOMEN HOLD DEAR TO THEM, THAT MONEY COME AND USE FOR THAT.
DURING THEIR QUEST, THE PETITIONER, THE CITIZENS SIT IN A SENTENCE CITIZEN.
AFTER CITIZEN DOZENS OF US, THERE WAS A PACK THAT CAME WITH ONE QUESTION AND THEN THE MAJORITY SPOKE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR.
THE MAJORITY SPOKE WHAT WE WANT FOR THE CITIZENS.
THEN ALL YOU DEBATED AND YOU, SIR, YOU MADE A MOTION, MAN.
YOU SECOND THEM ABOUT WENT AROUND THE HORN.
IT WAS VOTED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE THOUGH.
SO VERY COLD, HOW I'VE LIVED SO MUCH OF MY LIFE, MULTIPLE DECADES OF SACRIFICING FOR THIS VERY INSTITUTION RIGHT HERE.
IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE CALLED THE DEMOCRACY.
AND THAT JUST SIMPLY DIDN'T FEEL TRUE.
I MADE A REQUEST THAT I'M ASKING OF YOU.
I MADE A REQUEST, TWO THINGS FROM YOU LAST MONTH, BE IMPECCABLE WITH YOUR WORD.
MEAN WHAT YOU SAY, SAY WHAT YOU MEAN.
THE OTHER THING WAS TRANSPARENCY.
WELL, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME LEFT.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT YOU.
OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, I WOULD NEVER WANT TO BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
THAT'S PUTTING YOURSELF OUT THERE PUBLICLY.
YOU ALL WORKED JOBS, BUT YOU RAN FOR OFFICE.
I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF SYMPATHY.
WHETHER YOU OWN A BUSINESS OR YOU WORK NINE TO FIVE, I COMMEND YOU, BUT I ASK YOU TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE VOTE, WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT, NOT WHAT YOU WANT.
UM, EDWIN ONE 19 RANDOM WOOD LANE.
I LIKE TO START OUT WITH A QUOTE THAT I SAW IN A NEWSPAPER BY ALBERT EINSTEIN.
HE SERVED, HE SAID THE WORLD IS A DANGEROUS PLACE TO LIVE.
NOT BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EVIL, BUT BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AS ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE CITY AND COUNTY, YOU HAVE TO BE TRUE TO YOUR WORD.
WHEN YOU SAY THINGS AND THEY DON'T HAPPEN.
I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SITTING AT THE CRAVEN COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS BEAT LAST NIGHT.
AND I WAS TOLD THAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT INFORMATION THAT THE AIRPORT THAT I LOVE IN NEWBURN IS GOING TO HAVE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT TO WIDE WILLIAM'S ROAD TO HAVE A LONGER RUNWAY AND ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT.
THERE'S GOING TO BE 750 TO A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS.
NOW, THREE YEARS WAY BEFORE SOMEBODY LIKE THE OFFICIALS BEEN HERE, I'M IN THE CITIZEN ADVOCATE SINCE 2007 FORWARD.
AND I'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THE CITY COUNTY PARTNERSHIP.
IF WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, YOU GOTTA SIT DOWN AND SAY, HEY, IF THE AIRPORT'S GOING TO BE EXPANDED, DOES THE CITY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE THAT? AND THE COUNTY, THAT WAY IT'S A PARTNERSHIP OR THEY JUST WANT TO HAVE A LOSS, A FAIR ATTITUDE ABOUT IT.
IF WE TALK ABOUT DOING A PARTNERSHIP
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LITTLE BY LITTLE, THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY DOES, MAYBE THE CITY KIDS TAKE OVER AND THINGS THAT THE CITY DOES, THE COUNTY CAN TAKE OVER AND SHARE SOME SAVINGS ACROSS THE BOARD.I'VE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THEIR BUDGET ORDINANCE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR AND BETWEEN OUR FAIR CITY, WHICH HAS STARTED OUT WHEN I WAS DOING THIS 34 AND $35 MILLION, IT'S CREEPING TO BE $45 MILLION.
THE COUNTY DOES THINGS AND THEIR BUDGET IS 121 MILLION.
THE TWO BIGGEST COWS AT A HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND CRAVEN COUNTY SCHOOLS.
SO I'M ASKING IF YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU TALK ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY, GO TO SOMEBODY'S MEETINGS, FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
THERE MAY BE SOME SHARED RESPONSIBILITY AND SAVINGS FOR THE CITY.
[Consent Agenda]
WENT TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IS MOTION.SECOND, IS THERE DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? SAY, AYE, I'LL POST THE SAME MOTION CARRIES.
[8. Consider Adopting a Resolution Approving a Memorandum of Understanding with the US Department of Justice Marshal Service.]
EVENING, MAYOR.NEXT ITEM IS, CONSIDER A RESOLUTION, APPROVING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MARSHALL SERVICE FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO DO FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PARTICIPATED IN THE TASK FORCE OFFICER PROGRAM WITH THE JUSTICE MARSHALL SERVICE THROUGH THIS PARTNERSHIP, THE MARSHAL SERVICE HAS ENGAGED IN NUMEROUS OPERATIONS THROUGHOUT NEWBURN AND CRAVEN COUNTY TO HUNT DOWN ONE IN FUGITIVES.
THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 370 WARRANTS WERE SERVED IN OUR REGION AND 179 FUGITIVE FUGITIVES WERE ARRESTED.
THIS MOU WHO BUYS AT THE U S DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PAY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND A MOUNTAIN NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 FOR OVERTIME ON THIS WARRANT OFFICER.
SO WE HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM FOR, FOR SEVERAL YEARS, A MEMO ATTACHED BY CHIEF GALLAGHER.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MARSHALL SERVICES.
I MAY HAVE MOTION IN SECONDS OR DISCUSSION.
SEE ANOTHER SIDE OF A ROM-COM STARTING WITH ELEMENT ALDERMAN ITEM.
[9. Consider Adopting a Resolution Authorizing the City Manager to Execute a Contract with James L. Cayton and Associates, Inc. for the FY22 Water and Sewer Improvements Project.]
YES, SIR.NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDERED A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH JAMES L KATE AND THEN ASSOCIATES FOR FYI 22 WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
FIFTH WERE SOFT FOR THIS, THIS IMPROVEMENT, UH, WHICH INVOLVES COURT STREET AND PORTIONS OF HIGH STREET RIVER ROAD IN WASHINGTON AND RALEIGH STREET.
THE PROJECT WILL ELIMINATE DETERIORATED MAINS AND SEWER BACKUPS IN THE AREA.
AND A TOTAL OF FOUR BIDS WERE RECEIVED WITH THE LOWEST BID SUBMITTED BY JANESVILLE CAITLIN FOR $758,550.
THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THIS CONTRACT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE SUPPORT, HAVE QUESTIONS.
MAY I LIKE MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH JAMES L CAYTON AND ASSOCIATES INC FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 22 WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE DISCUSSION STARTED WITH ALDERMAN BINGO, UM, GOVERNMENT, THE BAGEL YES.
OUT A WOMAN HERE IS YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER TWO.
[10. Consider Adopting an Ordinance to Amend Article V. Trucks and Trailers of Chapter 70.]
NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDERING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND ARTICLE FIVE TRUCKS AND TRAILERS OF CHAPTER 70.THIS ORDINANCE CLEARLY DEFINES TRUCKS AND TRAILERS, AND IT ALSO EXPANDS PARKING RESTRICTIONS TO PROHIBIT OVERNIGHT TRUCK AND TRAILER PARKING ALONG THE PORTION OF NATIONAL AVENUE BETWEEN DENNIS STREET AND NORTH AVENUE.
A MEMO FROM THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY IS ATTACHED.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU MAY HAVE JUST A COMMENT, UH, MAYOR.
I WANNA THANK, UH, ATTORNEY MOSLEY AND UH, DAVIS FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE IN THIS.
THE RIVERSIDE ASSOCIATION, UH, CONTACTED ME.
UH, THEY'VE HAD SOMEONE WHO WAS, UM, HAVING AN ABATEMENT ISSUE WITH CARS AND TRUCKS ON THEIR PROPERTY, WHICH WAS THE SIDE STREET.
THEY MOVED THE TRUCKS AND PUT THEM ON NATIONAL AVENUE AND LEFT THEM ALL PARKED UP AND DOWN THERE BECAUSE THAT WAS A STATE OWNED STREET.
AND SO WE DID NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT INCLUDED THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THIS IN FRONT OF YOU.
I KNOW THE CITIZENS WILL BE HAPPY
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TO GET RID OF THESE BAD VEHICLES THAT ARE NOW PARKED ON NATIONAL AVENUE.SO, UM, I HOPE THAT THE ABATEMENT OFFICER WILL GO OUT THERE TOMORROW AND TAKE CARE OF IT IF WE CAN GET THIS PASSED TONIGHT.
SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND ARTICLE FIVE TRUCKS AND TRAILERS AND OF CHAPTER SEVEN, SECOND MOTION.
AND SECOND, IS THERE A DISCUSSION SEEING NONE LET'S HAVE A ROLL COUNT STARTING ON ALDERMAN ITEM.
[11. Consider Adopting an Ordinance to Close the COPS MORE 98 Grant Fund.]
ITEM IS TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO CLOSE THE COPS MORE 98, GRANT FUN, THIS ITEM.AND THEN THE NEXT FOUR ITEMS ARE CLEANUP PURPOSES IN OUR, IN OUR BUDGET.
AND ALSO IN OUR, UM, OUR AUDIT, THE BOARD ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE ON NOVEMBER 10TH, 1998 TO ESTABLISH THE COPS MORE THAN 98 GRANT PROJECT FUND.
THIS GRANT ENDED ON JUNE 30TH, 2000 AND A PROPOSAL ORDINANCE WILL FORMALLY CLOSE THE PROGRAM.
AND THE CITY'S FINANCIAL SYSTEM MAY HAVE BEEN MORE.
I'M WANTING TO INCLUDE ALL FOUR.
IS THAT WHAT YOU GONNA SAY, JOE? YEAH.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO CLOSE MORE.
90 GRANT FUND GARAGE, THREE TO THREE LOCATION PROJECT ONE, 2017 BORDER IMPROVEMENT, PROJECT FUND WATER RE RESOURCE RELOCATION PROJECT, AND THE 2017 SEWER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
THE SECOND EMOTION, THE SAME AS, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION STAY ANOTHER SEVERAL CALLS STARTING FOLLOWING THE THING.
ON A WOMAN HARRIS ALDERMAN ASKED HER YES.
MAY YOUR ALBUMS ORDERING KINSEY? YES.
[16. Discussion of City Hall Elevator Project.]
MAYOR.AND INSIDE OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE CITY HALL ELEVATOR PROJECT AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK IF YOU WERE WITH MBF ARCHITECTS TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, UH, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST SHARE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT MIGHT HELP US, UH, FACILITATE OUR DISCUSSION.
UH, WE PROVIDED AN ADVERTISEMENT ANNOUNCING THE FIFTH PROCEEDING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, UH, PLANS WERE MADE AVAILABLE TO VARIOUS CONTRACTOR INFORMATION AGENCIES, UH, TO DISSEMINATE INFORMATION.
WE CONFIRMED THAT WE PLACED PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS IN THE HANDS OF 39 LICENSED CONTRACTORS FOR VARIOUS TRADES.
A PRE-BID CONFERENCE WAS IN CONDUCTED ON FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR AND VARIOUS PLAN HOLDERS ATTENDED THAT EVENT.
UM, THEY WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS, UH, PROJECT SPECIFIC INQUIRIES, CLARIFICATIONS AND BIDDING PROCEDURES.
UH, WE OPEN BIDS ON FEBRUARY 24TH.
UM, THEY WERE SOLICITED IN ACCORDANCE WITH, UH, PUBLIC BIDDING PROCEDURES AS STIPULATED IN THE GENERAL STATUTES, PARTICULARLY 1 43 DASH 1 29 AND GENERAL STATUTE 1 43 DASH 1 32.
UM, AND BIDS WERE SOLICITED IN THE SINGLE PRIME ALTERNATIVE.
UM, THE BIDS WE RECEIVED ARE VALID FOR 30 DAYS, AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE COPIES OF THE CERTIFIED FIFTH TAB IN YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, UH, THE BIDS RECEIVED EXCEEDED THE FUNDING THAT YOU GAVE US TO WORK WITH FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING HOW WE MAY MOVE FORWARD.
WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE INCREASE IS A HUNDRED PERCENT DUE TO COVID AND THE INCREASED COST OF GOODS AND MATERIALS? OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE MISSED? IT IS PRIMARILY DUE TO THREE CONDITIONS.
IN MY OPINION, ONE YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THE PANDEMIC.
UM, YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD A LOT IN CONSTRUCTION ABOUT SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, UM, THAT THAT'S STILL AN ONGOING PROBLEM.
AND THEN LASTLY, WE'RE SEEING SOME INFLATION OF THE OVERALL ECONOMY.
AND SINCE WE ASKED FOR A LUMP SUM BID, UH, IT'S MY ASSESSMENT THAT THOSE THREE FACTORS ARE WHAT HAS CAUSED US TO BE OVER WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE, NO, WE BATTED THIS AROUND FOR HOW LONG THIS IS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ELEVATOR FOR 30, 35 YEARS THAT I CAN THINK OF.
UM, AND IT IS A SHAME I'M SURE MANY OF YOU SAW OUR GOOD FRIEND, BRENDAN HILDRETH OUTSIDE, UM, WHO CAN NOT GET INTO THIS BUILDING.
AND WE HAVE KICKED THIS CAN KICK THIS CAN.
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AND I GUESS IN SOME SENSE, IT'S US, THIS BOARD AND BOARDS BEFORE US WHO HAVE KICKED THE CAN HOPING THAT WE COULD FIND A BETTER WAY.AND WE HAVEN'T, THEREFORE THE PRICE HAS INCREASED.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S HALL.
WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO COME AND SPEAK AND DO THINGS.
AND YOU CAN'T EVEN HARDLY, YOU CAN'T GET INSIDE THE BUILDING OR UP FOR STEPS.
IT COULD BE USED FOR SO MUCH MORE, BUT IT CAN'T BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ELEVATOR.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT I'VE HAD SEVEN 11 HEART ATTACKS WHEN I SAW HOW MUCH MORE THE BID WAS.
BUT IF WE WAIT ANOTHER YEAR, IF WE TRY TO GO TO ANOTHER VENUE, IS IT, UH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ROUTE? HOW MUCH MORE IS IT GOING TO COST US? IT, WILL IT CONTINUE TO RISE? I'M I NOT SURE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD SEE IN THE FUTURE, BUT, UM, THE NOW TODAY PAID A VISIT TO MS. SAMSON.
AND OF COURSE, HOW MANY TIMES HAS SHE HAD TO BE CARRIED UP THE STAIRS? AND THAT WOMAN FOR AT LEAST THE LAST 60 YEARS HAS BEEN COMING TO THIS BUILDING AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING UP THE STEPS.
AND, UM, AND HER FIRST QUESTION WAS, IS IT GOLDMINE? IS, IS IT GOING TO BE BUILT BEFORE I'M NOT HERE? AND THAT QUESTION IS PROBABLY BEEN ASKED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE AND LAST 50 YEARS.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN DO SOME CREATIVE FINANCING.
I THINK WE TALKED AS WE'RE GONNA SEE IN OUR LIST HERE, MAYBE ARP MONEY, GOOD TAKE THE GAP THAT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO PAY AND THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS IT'S GOING TO COST US NOW.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT I BELIEVE THAT IT IS NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO GET OUR, OUR PEOPLE IN THIS BUILDING, WHETHER YOU'RE HANDICAP, ELDERLY, JUST NOT HAVING A GOOD DAY TO TAKE IT UP THE STAIRS.
THAT'S IN MY OWN COMMENTS, MR. CITY MANAGER TAKING THE ENTIRE FUNDS OR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE BILLS, THIS ELEVATOR FINANCING IT OVER A 15, 20, 25 YEARS.
WHAT, WHAT KIND OF NUMBER ONE, WHAT KIND OF RATE WOULD WE BE RECEIVING AND WHAT WOULD OUR PAYMENTS BE? LET ME ASK MS. SOCIALISM TO COME UP.
SHE DID SOME, THE SEARCH WARRANTS TODAY.
SO I REACHED OUT TO THE BANK AND I'M ON 3.9 MILLION.
UM, AND THEN I DID 3 MILLION AND THAT WAS AT FOR 10 YEARS.
I DID 10 YEARS AND 15 YEARS, 3 MILLION.
AND THEN AT 3.9 MILLION FOR 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS, WHAT'S THE ANNUAL PAYMENT.
SO FOR, UM, WHAT'S YOUR MOUTH US.
SO FOR WHAT I, I DID AS THE MOST 3.9 MILLION AT 15 YEARS OR 2.8, 6%, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, TOTAL PAYMENTS OF 4 MILLION, 7 92.
SO WHAT WOULD THE PAYMENT BE? I'M SORRY THAT I THINK WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE, OKAY, SO I'M IN HERE, YOU WOULD BE PAYING ABOUT 370,000 3 5300 50,000 AND THAT'S WHAT, 15 YEARS.
IT DROPS DOWN OVER TIME, BUT SURE.
AND THAT'S FOR THE ENTIRE AMOUNT, FOR THE FULL AMOUNT.
WELL, WE CAN USE THAT ARP FOR MONEY FOR ANYTHING WE WANT TO WRITE.
WE WERE UNDERNEATH THE $10 MILLION THRESHOLD.
UM, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF FINANCING THE ENTIRE AMOUNT AND LET'S BUILD AN ELEVATOR AND SAY YOU BUY ARP MONEY FOR, UM, IF THE 15, THE LONGEST SHE CAN PUSH IT OUT FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS WILL BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF PUSH IT OUT, BUT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GIVE ME AN ESTIMATE.
WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THIS BUILDING PRICELESS? YOU KNOW, TH THAT, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYOR WHO IS AN APPRAISER AND ANY OF THAT VALUE, IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 3 MILLION TO 12 MILLION.
UM, THERE'S REALLY NO, NO VALUE ON THIS BUILDING SO THAT WE CAN REALLY GIVE OUT, UNLESS WE HAD AN APPRAISER TO COME IN AND APPRAISE IT.
WHAT IS THE, THE, WE HAD A PROJECT THAT WAS GOING ON THAT WAS VERY EXPENSIVE OF REPAIRS.
WHAT ARE WE AT WITH THAT AS WELL? THE
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STEPS GOING UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR, WE HAVE NOT FUNDED THAT PROJECT YET.SO WHAT IS THE PRICE ON THAT IS APPROXIMATELY $50,000 TO FIX, FIX THE STAIRS? UH, WE DO HAVE TO ADDRESS A ROOF ISSUE, WHICH WE'LL HAVE IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR AS WELL.
UM, ALSO ON THE OUTSIDE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH FEMA TO BASICALLY RE 0.2 SIDES OF THE BRICK BUILDING THAT THAT PRICE IS APPROXIMATELY $200,000 TO GO LIST TO RE-POINT THE ENTIRE BUILDING TOTAL COST FOR THAT WOULD BE 400,000.
SO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS PRETTY SOUND OVERALL.
GO GET, UM, JUST A QUESTION FOR TRIP.
UM, COULD YOU JUST DESCRIBE FOR US AND FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, THIS IS NOT JUST AN ELEVATOR SHAFT.
IT'S BRINGING THE ENTIRE CITY HALL AND ADA STANDARDS AS FAR AS THE RESTROOM FACILITIES, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND WE'VE TRIED TO PUT A GOOD BIT OF CONTENT INTO A RATHER SMALL PACKAGE.
IT ALSO INCLUDES A SECOND MEANS OF EGRESS.
THE BUILDING CURRENTLY ONLY HAS ONE MEANS OF EGRESS.
UH, SO, UH, THE PROJECT WOULD SATISFY A NUMBER OF CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED.
AND THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WOULD BE IF YOU WERE TO GET CREATIVE, I KNOW YOU GUYS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
IF YOU GOT CREATIVE AND ADDED AN ELEVATOR SHAFT SOMEWHERE TO JUST PROVIDE AN ELEVATOR FOR CITY HALL, WOULD THERE BE REQUIREMENTS FROM A CODE STANDPOINT TO PROVIDE OTHER FACILITIES AT THAT POINT INSIDE THE BUILDING THAT WERE ADA ACCESSIBLE? I DON'T THINK SO, BUT THE BIGGER PROBLEM IS YOU DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY OR SPACE TO MAKE THOSE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN YOUR CURRENT FOOTPRINT.
SO KEEP IN MIND THAT, UH, THE WAY THE ELEVATOR IS CONNECTING TO HISTORIC CITY HALL, IT'S REMOVING TWO OF YOUR THREE BATHROOMS RIGHT NOW.
UM, DO YOU RECALL, WE ALSO, UH, DID A PRELIMINARY EXPLORATION ABOUT LOCATING AN ELEVATOR WITH HIM, UH, THE INTERIOR OF HISTORIC CITY HALL, AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF OTHER SCENARIOS.
AND THIS, THIS WAS, UH, THE BEST SCENARIO IS SUITED TO GET WHAT WE NEEDED, BUT ALSO TO SOLVE SOME OF THESE CODE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR A LONG TIME.
SO I CONCUR WITH YOU, UH, AUGMENT ASKER ABOUT FINANCING THIS PROJECT, BUT KIM, COULD YOU COME UP FOR A AGAIN, PLEASE? I GUESS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WE NEED TO DECIDE ON WORK, WHETHER WE WANT TO GO WITH 10 YEARS AND 15 YEARS, WE CAN GO I WAS GOING TO SAY IF WE THINK THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW BEFORE THE OTHER QUESTIONS IS IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY TABLE IT, BUT IF WE CAN GET THE, THE, WHAT IT WOULD BE TO FINANCE THE LONGEST, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST BET AND STILL PRESERVED IT.
UM, AND I THINK, UM, BUT KIM, DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT THEY COULDN'T SUPPLY YOU WITH THE 20 YEAR AT THIS POINT JUST TODAY? I COULDN'T GET IT BY THE END OF TODAY.
SO ALL YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS DIRECTION TO CONTINUE OR STOP IT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO, I MEAN, I'M, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF GIVING DIRECTIONS TO CONTINUE THAT OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR FIND THE BEST SOLUTION FOR FINANCING FOR US, SIT AND BRING IT BACK TO US AND WE'LL MAKE A DECISION.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY, AT THAT TIME, WE CAN REALLY CONSIDER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE GOING TO USE ARP FUNDS OR NOT.
BUT WHEN A RATE OF TWO POINT, WHAT WAS IT? 2.8? CAN I GET SOME OF THAT? UM, YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD.
UM, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.
AND WITH THAT ACCOUNT OF A RATE, UM, UM, MORE TIME TO FINANCE THE ENTIRE AMOUNT, WHETHER WE GO 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS OR 20 YEARS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER FINANCE DIRECTOR THINKS IS THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCKS, AND LET'S MAKE A DECISION AND LET'S GET AN ELEVATOR IN THIS BUILDING TO ADD ONTO WHAT, UM, ULTIMATE AFTER SAYING IT TO SEND IT OUT AS LONG AS WE CAN.
UM, DO WE HAVE A HEALTHY ENOUGH, UM, BALANCE IN, IN, IN MONEY COMING IN TO COVER THESE PAYMENTS? W YOU KNOW, JUST AS YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS, SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE IN A GOOD SPACE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY FINANCE.
I RAN THE NUMBERS AND DID A COMPARISON ON A ANNUAL TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME DEBT COMING ON OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO WE ARE, WE DO, WE ARE IN A GOOD POSITION.
HAVE A QUITE ONE FOR, NAH, I WAS JUST SAYING ONE THING WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, BUT WE ONLY HAVE THE BIDS ON A GOOD 30 DAYS.
AND WITH THE PRICE OF MATERIAL MOVING UP AND DOWN
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MORE LIKE UP INSTEAD OF DOWN, WE PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE A QUICK DECISION ON THIS THING.IF YOU COULD, I COULD USE THE DIRECTION TO EITHER AWARD CONTRACT OR NOT.
AND IF WE CHOOSE TO AWARD CONTRACT, UM, THAT HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE MARCH 20TH.
OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON THE 22ND TRIP.
MY QUESTION WAS WHAT WOULD THE TIMELINE BASED? SO SAY WE WERE, WE'RE GOING AHEAD WITH THIS.
SO, I MEAN, DID WE STAND OUTSIDE YOUR OFFICE AND KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND SAY, ARE YOU WORKING TODAY OR IS IT, YOU KNOW, HOW WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? UH, THE, UH, UH, CONTRACTORS ARE AWARE THAT THERE IS SOME URGENCY TO GET THE PROJECT MOVING.
UM, WE'VE SHARED WITH THEM THAT THIS BOARD HAS MET MANY TIMES, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, PUSH THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
UH, I HAVE, UH, ASKED THEM TO BE PREPARED TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITHIN 10 DAYS OF NOTIFICATION OF AWARD.
AND, UM, SOMETIMES 10 DAYS CAN BE A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE.
IT CERTAINLY WON'T TAKE MORE THAN 30.
ONCE WE HAVE THE CONTRACTS IN PLACE, THEN WE CAN SCHEDULE OUR, UH, PRE-CONSTRUCTION CONFERENCE, UH, ESSENTIALLY IN THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS, FOLLOWING CONTRACT EXECUTION, 12 TO 15 MONTHS TO BUILD THIS, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND IT'S, UH, WE'VE GIVEN A YEAR.
ARE THERE ANY PERFORMANCE CLAUSES IN THERE ABOUT TOM? UH, THERE IS A, IT'S A, UH, YEAR'S CONSTRUCTION TIME AND THERE IS A LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND MAIL.
UM, I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S USUALLY NEIGHBORHOOD OF 500 AND THAT WAS IN THE PRE-BID DOCUMENTS IS THAT CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.
AND THIS IS A GENERAL PROVISION THAT IS CUSTOMARY FOR MUNICIPAL CLIENT.
DO YOU NEED THAT? OKAY, MR. DAVIS, DO WE NEED TO, I HAVE A BOAT OR HOW DO WE PUT THIS WHOLE PACKAGE? TYPICALLY WE'D HAVE A PACKAGE ON THE AGENDA WITH THE RESOLUTION TO SUPPLIERS.
CAN WE GET IT? CAN WE GET THE INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE RATES AND HOW FAR OUT WE CAN GO AND HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 22ND FOR US TO VOTE ON AND STILL BE IN TIME TO MEET THE DEADLINE? FOR SURE.
THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO DO TRIP IS VERBALLY TELLING THEM AND SAY, ACTUALLY, WE'D ASKED THEM THE, THEIR BID UNTIL THAT DATE.
WHEN YOU'RE THE APPARENT LOW BIDDER, IS EVERYONE ALWAYS AGREES THOUGH.
SO THEN I WOULD, AGAIN, I WOULD, I'M READY TO GIVE DIRECTION JUST LIKE I STATED BEFORE TO PROCEED AND THAT THE FINAL STRAIGHTER COME BACK, WHAT I RACED WITH SOME GOOD RATES AND REVOKE NEXT MEET.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU TO, WE'LL HAVE TO GO THE LGC AS WELL.
UM, PRIVATELY 45 DAYS, I THINK BEFORE, CAN WE AWARD THE CONTRACT BEFORE WE GO TO THE EDGE OF SAMMY? IS THAT I JUST HAVE TO DO A LETTER, LETTER OF INTENT TO REIMBURSE? YEAH.
SO THAT'S NOT THAT WOULDN'T HOLD US UP FROM AWARDING THE CONTRACT.
IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THE DIRECTION DIRECTION IS LOOKING FOR ANY CONCERN, A LOT OF MOUSE, THE MOUSE ON LAY TIME TO GET THIS ELEVATOR GOING.
IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER ON NUMBER 16, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE
[17. Appointment(s).]
APPOINTMENTS.WE WANT TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
WE HAVE HAD TWO PEOPLE TO STEP DOWN.
SO, UM, THIS EVENING I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT STEPHANIE LUBBOCK TO FILL THE EXPIRED TERM OF MARIA CHO.
AND I'D LIKE TO APPOINT JULIUS PAR HAM WHO WAS FORMER ALDERMAN AND WAS ON THE, UM, HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD TO, UH, JOHN YUM'S UNEXPIRED TERM, WHICH TO EXCELLENT PEOPLE.
I, UM, WANTED TO APPOINT, UM, BARBARA STEPS INTO THE BOARD, UM, BECAUSE SHE'S, YOU KNOW, SHE GOES TO ME AND SHE IS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO AT LEAST HAVE SOMEONE ON THE BOARD THAT IS DIRECTLY IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND AT ALL THE OTHER SUB COMMITTEE MEETINGS, UM, TO CONTINUE TO BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP, UM, FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT
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COMMISSION, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT INDIVIDUALS OR WE, WE SET IT UP TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE ALL OF THE, THE BACKGROUND, BUT I FEEL LIKE SHE HAS THE BACKGROUND AS WELL IN REGARDS TO BEING IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AND BEING A PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND WORKING.UM, LET ME JUST MENTION TO MS. LUBBOCK IS A MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR AND, UM, I THINK SHE WOULD BRING A LOT TO THE TABLE BECAUSE AGAIN, THE BOY THAT'S BEING, UM, THAT'S TAKEN PLACE NOW WITH MS. CHO AND MR. YOUNG LEAVING, UM, IS THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
AND CERTAINLY MENTAL HEALTH IS AN ISSUE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK SHE COULD DO AN EXCELLENT JOB SHE'S YOUNG, AND I THINK IT'S GOOD TO GET SOME YOUNG PEOPLE INVOLVED.
AND OF COURSE, UH, MR. PARHAM HAS BEEN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, A PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS GROWING UP THERE.
AND, UM, CERTAINLY KNOWS A LOT ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS WHAT HAPPENS ON THE BOARD.
SO I JUST THINK HE WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT CHOICE.
DID YOU HAVE, WHEN THESE, WHEN, UM, MS. JOE AND MR. YOUNG'S TERM? YES.
SO MS. CHOSE A TERM WON'T EXPIRE TILL, UM, AUGUST OF 24, CAUSE SHE WAS JUST RECENTLY REAPPOINTED LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE.
AND MR. YOUNG'S TERM WILL EXPIRE IN AUGUST OF 22.
SO THIS AUGUST, HIS TERM WILL EXPIRE.
SO MR. PARR HAM WOULD ONLY BE IN THE SEAT UNLESS HE WAS REAPPOINTED UNTIL AUGUST OF 2022.
AND THERE'LL BE ANOTHER SEAT THAT EXPIRES AT THAT TIME.
SO NOW WE'RE IN THE EVERY YEAR, TWO PEOPLE X THE TERMS EXPIRE AND REAPPOINTMENTS GOING TO HAPPEN.
I DEFINITELY SUPPORT, UM, STEPHANIE LOVING, UM, TO, TO FILL CHOSE POSITION.
UM, IF WE CAN MEET IN THE MIDDLE AND, UM, ALLOW BARBARA SAMPSON TO SIT ON THE BOARD UNTIL AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
AND IF SHE GETS A REAPPOINTMENT FROM THE WORK, THERE'S ANOTHER POSITION COMING UP THAT JULIAN CAN SERVE ON, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND SERVE IN THE COMMUNITY TO BE ON THERE AS WELL.
SO, I MEAN, WE CAN MEET IN THE MIDDLE IF POSSIBLE.
UH, I AGREE WITH YOU, UM, OTTOMAN HARRIS TO INCLUDE PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PLUS YOU GAINED A COMMUNITY'S RESPECT.
UM, SO I AGREE WITH IS FROM STRAIGHT BACK AND CENTERED THE YES, BURNS THREE IS, BUT I'M JUST SAYING MS. SAMPSON HAS BEEN BARBARA SAMPSON HAS BEEN VERY ADVOCATE ABOUT ALL, A LOT OF ISSUES THAT PERTAINING TO THE DUFFY FIELD REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND ALL OF THAT.
SO I, I AGREE WITH YOU, YOU ALL POSITIONS, I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, IF, IF WE CAN MEET IN THE MIDDLE OF, BECAUSE THERE IS A THIRD POSITION COMING UP AND THIS ONE DOES EXPIRE SOON, AND THEN THE ABILITY TO REAPPOINT IT, IT'S NOT A GOOD FIT.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK WITH, UH, EITHER ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS TO SEE IF THEY, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT SINCE, SINCE ONE OF THEM'S POSITION IS GONNA, UM, SEE IT'S GOING TO BE VACANT IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
I MEAN, MS. PARHAM MAY BE, I'VE MADE THE MOTION AND IT HAS BEEN SECOND.
IF YOU WANT TO VOTE IT AND THEN MAKE AN, UH, AN ALTERNATE AMENDMENT THAT IS CIRCLING.
IF IT FAILS, THAT IS CERTAINLY THE WAY WE COULD GO.
UM, SO I WANT TO CALL THE CLUB, UM, LET'S HAVE A, THIS I KNOW CAN DO WITH, UH, LIKE BY VOICE, BUT IT'S THAT REAL PAUL STARTED WITH ALL ODOM AND SEE HOW THIS MOTION SECOND.
IT CAN PAR HIM, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
ALDERMAN DEZ, ALDERMAN, KENZIE MAY OR ALCOHOL? YES.
ALDERMAN ASKED HER OUT A WOMAN HARRIS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER APPOINTMENTS? ALL THE WOMAN HAIRS? UM, NOT TONIGHT, SIR.
UM, THE VACANCY OF MS. OLAND HOUSING LEAVING THE CITY, SHE WAS OUR ACT REPRESENTATIVE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT MR. MARVIN WILLIAMS, WHO WAS THE FORMER HAVELOCK POLICE CHIEF.
I THINK HE'D BE A GREAT CHOICE TO BE OUR LIAISON FOR ACT AT CHERRY POINT SECOND MOTION AND SAID MISSOURI DISCUSSION.
HE WAS ASKED BEFORE I DID THAT.
I WANT TO PLAY THE MOTION, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED, SAME MOTION CARRIES ANY OTHER APPOINTMENTS AT THIS TIME.
UM, TOURNEES REPORT NOTHING IMPORTANT.
[19. City Manager's Report.]
GOT THREE THINGS.FIRST ONE IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR GRAND OPENING
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FOR THE MARTIN MARIETTA PARK ON FRIDAY, MARCH 25TH AT 11:00 AM.SO WE HOPE THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO COME OUT AND ENJOY OUR BRAND NEW PARK.
ALSO ON SATURDAY, MARCH 26TH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE A, AN OPEN HOUSE.
THEY'LL ALSO BE DOING THE FIRETRUCK POOL AS FAR AS PART OF AN MDA FUNDRAISER THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE FIRE HEADQUARTERS.
UH, 1401 NEWS BOULEVARD FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:00 PM.
AND ALSO THE LAST ITEM IS A SCENARIO IN AN ARP, UH, OR MECHANISTIC PLAN FUNDS MEMO.
UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED 6 MILLION, 700, $4,351.
UM, WE, WE, WE RECEIVED HALF OF THAT LAST YEAR AND WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE THE BALANCE IN MAY OF THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE TO OBLIGATE ALL OF THOSE FUNDS BY DECEMBER 31ST OR 2024.
SO THERE'VE BEEN SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOATED AROUND.
WE'VE HAD TWO WORKSHOPS ON THIS SINCE YOU MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE WHATEVER DIRECTION THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD AT ANY TIME THAT THIS BOARD IS READY TO ACT.
UM, MR. HUGHES, WHAT WAS THE DATE? WHAT WAS THE TIME FOR THE GRAND OPENING? OPEN ENDED UP MARTIN MARIETTA, 11:00 AM AND 11:00 AM.
IT'LL BE 11 UNTIL WE WILL SEND, UH, RELEASES THAT TO THE MEDIA AND ALSO TO ALL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WHAT WAS THE DATE AGAIN? I'M SORRY, FRIDAY, MARCH 25TH, 20 AND OTHER QUESTIONS.
I HAVE SOME, UM, QUESTIONS IN REFERENCE TO THE ER TO THE ARP FUNDS.
UM, SO IN OUR PRIOR DISCUSSION WE JUST HAD ABOUT THE ELEVATOR.
SO THIS $1 MILLION TO POTENTIALLY CAN BE TAKEN AWAY.
AND I HAVE SOME ISSUES HERE BECAUSE WHAT AMOUNT OF MONEY ARE WE ALLOCATING HERE FROM ARP FUNDS FOR THE STORM WATER PROJECT? I KNOW YOU GOT TO COMBINE THEM SIDEWALKS.
WE CAN ALLOCATE WHATEVER THIS BOARD DIRECTS US TO DO IN OUR LAST WORKSHOP.
I BELIEVE WE HAD DISCUSSED A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION FOR THAT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GIVE UP.
NOW YOU HAVE ABOUT 3.4 MILLION TO BE ABLE TO DO STORM WATER IN THE US.
WELL, WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE MILLION DOLLARS YET BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT I FIND THAT THERE'S GOING TO RECOMMEND AS FAR AS FINANCING CONCERNED, WHETHER WE WANT THE MILLION DOLLARS ARP MONEY WITH IT OR NOT.
SO, I MEAN, I'M, I, WASN'T GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE MY TWO BOYS MAPPING ON WHAT I WANTED THIS MONEY FOR.
UM, AND NOR DID I, AND NOR DID I, OKAY, LET ME JUST BACK UP.
I THINK WE'D HAVE TWO WORKSHOPS AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY FROM STANFORD, FROM LATE OFFICIALS IN ANY MOVEMENT AND THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON IT.
SO I ASKED FOR THE MANAGER AND ASSISTANT MANAGER AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE MAYOR MEET TO DISCUSS SOME THINGS THAT AT LEAST WE REPRESENTING THE STAFF AND OFFICIALS COULD MEET.
AND THEN IF WE COULD AGREE ON THIS, THEN GO TO THE LAKE AND THE BODY.
AND IF, IF, IF DISAPPEARS CAR BLOCK ON PART, UH, SO BE IT, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST AN ATTEMPT TO GET SOME THINGS OUT HERE.
AND I THINK WHAT THE FOUR REPS WERE TRYING TO DO MORE PARTICULARLY THAT THAT MIGHT APPROACH HIM OR THINGS THAT WE COULD AGREE ON, NOT, NOT AGREE.
AND SO WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS, IS, IS PUT FORWARD ITEMS THAT PARTICULARLY, UM, PAST HISTORY OF THE CITY, GETTING GRANTS, CLAIM, WORK, TRUST BONDS, AND OTHER THINGS, UM, $33 MILLION FROM FEMA FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND, UM, SALE MITIGATION, ET CETERA.
UH, I DIDN'T PARTICULARLY SEE TAKING ARP MONEY TO DO THINGS THAT WE MIGHT CAN FIND JUST LIKE RECREATION THROUGH GRANT SOURCES, ET CETERA.
UM, THAT MEAN THAT I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THE USE OF ANY OF THEIR SPORT TRAINEES COATS THAT STEERED LONG ALREADY AS YOU WELL KNOW.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT FOUR OF US AGREED ON THAT WE COULD AGREE ON.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE ADDED.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE, THE MONEY'S AVAILABLE.
WE LET'S GET IT OUT THERE AND SERVICES SINCE THIS IS ALL, THIS IS ALL THEY SEE IS IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GOING BEHIND OR OVER ANYBODY.
UM, IT'S JUST TO GET THE CONVERSATION AND GET SOME MONEY FLOWING TO THE CITY OF NEWBURGH PRECEDENCE.
THAT'S WHERE THE, AND IT'S A GREAT LIST TO START WITH.
NUMBER ONE, I WOULD SAY UNTIL WE GET SOME PRICING BACK OR WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST US TO BUILD A STANLEY, WHY
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THE CENTER, WHY DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DEDICATE A MILLION DOLLARS TO, BECAUSE WE KNOW FROM THE ELEVATOR AND OTHER THINGS, IT'S DEFINITELY CAN COST MORE THAN $8 MILLION OR WHATEVER THE AMOUNT WAS.WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT WE MIGHT ADD SOME, UH, ASPECTS OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS TO THE STANDARD WHITE CENTER.
AND THEN, AND THEN I'LL SAY THE SAME THING THAT'S BEEN TOLD TO ME SEVERAL TIMES IS WE GOT A NEW BOARD IS GOING TO BE SEATED IN ABOUT 60 DAYS.
MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT AND GET THAT NEW BOARD ON BOARD AND SEE IF THEY'VE GOT ANY THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ON THIS MONEY.
UH, MAY I JUST HAVE I HAVE A COMMENT? UM, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT SOMEBODY TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO START THE CONVERSATION, UM, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON ALDERMAN TO ASK HER JUST SAID, THE CITY'S ONLY RECEIVED $3.3 MILLION AS OF TODAY, IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY AND THE REST OF IT WILL BE RECEIVED, EXPECTED TO BE RECEIVED IN MAY OF THIS YEAR.
AND WHAT AUTUMN ASKS ME TO SAID, THERE IS AN ELECTION IN MAY.
SO I THINK THE FIRST THING YOU NEED TO DO IS TAKE ANY MONEY OFF THE TABLE THAT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED YET.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PRUDENT FIRST AND FOREMOST, AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS ON HERE I CAN CERTAINLY GET BEHIND.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE ALLOCATING MONEY FOR A PROJECT THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE PRICE FOR YET.
I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY CLEAR, UM, AT LEAST OFFSET IT SEVERAL TIMES THAT WE HAVE A BUDGET FOR STANLEY WHITE AND THE BUDGET IS THE BUDGET.
IF IT COMES BACK MORE THAN THAT, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO IT.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, WHAT I PLAN TO DO IS OVER THE NEXT WEEK, I'LL TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND I'LL SEND MR. HUGHES MY FAULTS ON THIS LIST, AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
WELL, I AGREE WITH, UM, I GOTTA READ, I GOTTA RESPECT BOTH OF Y'ALL'S OPINION, BUT ALSO WHEN WE HAD THAT LAST WORKSHOP, WE HAD OUR ENGINEER FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS.
WE HAD OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, AND YET THEY STOOD BEFORE US AND THEY TOLD US THAT IT WOULD TAKE, THEY GAVE US AN ESTIMATE OF $2 MILLION FOR THE SOME DRAINAGE DEFICIENCIES FOR, UM, THE GREATER DEPTH OF FIELD THAT EAST ROAD STREET, THE, THE NORTH HILLS, THE SEMEN'S STREET.
WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS WATER ISSUES OVER THERE AND DISLIKE.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR AREA, ARE WE GOT CITIZENS THAT HAS BEEN LIVING IN THAT AREA FOR DECADES OKAY.
AND IF WE TALK ABOUT LIKE THE GENTLEMEN JUST SAID EARLIER, WE GOT TO WATCH WHAT WE SAY WE TALK ABOUT AND INSTEAD APPEAR AND TALK ABOUT A LOT IN $2 MILLION FOR A DRAINAGE PROJECT.
AND THEN YOU COME BACK LATER ON, I'M LOOKING AT THIS LIST AND WHEN YOU PUT A LIST IN FRONT OF ME OUTLINE, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID, UH, MAYOR, THIS IS JUST SO TALKING POINT.
BUT WHEN YOU PUT A LIST LIKE THIS IN FRONT OF ME, AND I DON'T SEE AN ALLOTTED AMOUNT LINE ITEM FOR STORM WATER, THAT'S THE ISSUE FOR ME.
AND I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO ALL COME TOGETHER AND REALIZE THAT OUR CITIZENS, NOT ONE OF US SITTING UP HERE AND WANTING TO LIVE IN AN AREA WHERE YOU GET INUNDATED BY WATER, WHEN YOU HAVE A STORM, JUST THE STORM WATER, RAIN WATER.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO, WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
WE, WE, THIS, THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR ME.
AND I JUST FEEL THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET $6.7 MILLION FROM THE ARP FUND ON ODOM AND ARE SURELY WE WILL GET THAT.
THEY'VE HEARD HE GAVE US 3.2, SO THAT MONEY IS COMING.
AND IF IT MEANS WE GOT TO TAKE A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE ELEVATOR I'M FOR THAT, BECAUSE WE NEED AN ELEVATOR AND WE NEED TO TAKE SOME MORE OF THIS MONEY FOR SIDEWALK.
LET'S DO SO WE NEED SIDEWALKS AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO GET THE STORMWATER PROJECT RUNNING AND WE CAN DISCUSS ALL DAY.
WE CAN KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD TWO MONTHS FROM NOW, BUT WE STILL GONNA HAVE THE SAME ISSUES FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA.
SO I JUST HOPE WE, AS A BOARD CAN REASON WITH EACH OTHER AND DISCUSS THIS, THAT SCARES ME.
I'M NOT FINISHED YET, THAT WE CAN REASON WITH EACH OTHER AND DISCUSS THIS AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT LIVE WITHIN THOSE AREAS OF THIS CITY, AUTOMATED BEST.
AND I WANT SOME CLARIFICATION THAT THE 2 MILLION IN THERE WAS THE 2 MILLION YEARS DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING.
SO THE 2 MILLION IS THE STORM WATER THAT 0.45.
SO THE 450,000 WAS FOR THE SIDEWALKS.
BUT WHEN I PREVIOUSLY, I GOT A RUNDOWN PREVIOUSLY AND IT WAS ONE POINT PREVIOUSLY I GOT RUN DOWN.
IT WAS 1.5 FOR SIDEWALKS, SO, OKAY.
THAT WAS RUN DOWN VIGOROUSLY, BUT NOW YOU GOT 2.4, 5 MILLION HERE, WHICH I'M FINE WITH, BUT JUST, OKAY.
YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S DO SOMETHING ABOUT
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THE STORM WATER.WE HAD TO TAKE A MILLION DOLLARS FROM SOMETHING ELSE HERE ON THIS.
AND AGAIN, AGAIN, I DON'T SEE PUTTING A MILLION DOLLARS AND MARTIN MARIETTA PARK RIGHT NOW.
OUR CITIZENS DON'T LIVE IN A PARK, OKAY.
THAT MONEY CAN BE ALLOCATED TO THE STORM WATER.
WE NEED TO GET THE STORM WATER UNDER CONTROL.
MARTIN AREA PART IS GOING TO BE GREAT ASSET REVENUE BUILDER, BUT THE CITY.
BUT RIGHT NOW I JUST DON'T SEE PUTTING A MILLION DOLLARS INTO THAT PROJECT.
WHAT, WHAT IS $250,000 FOR HOUSING REHABILITATION FOR THAT? AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL SUGGESTIONS.
UH, SO A LOT OF THESE THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN VETTED TO GIVE YOU THE FULL RULES AND REGULATIONS, BUT IT WOULD BASICALLY BE A HOUSING REHAB FOR A LOW INCOME HOME OWNERS.
AND THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS QUALIFIED UNDER ARP.
WELL, I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT I THINK, UH, A GOOD USE OF SOME OF THIS MONEY AS WELL, WOULD BE TO GIVE SOME DOLLARS TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND LET THEM START REHABBING SOME OF THE HOMES OVER THERE AND, AND DOING THEIR THING.
I MEAN, THEY, AND THEN I WENT ON A 250,000 HOUSE WORK FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT.
SO WE HAD TO MAKE TWO 50 FOR THE, UP TO TWO 50 FOR THE MCCOTTER HOUSE RENOVATION AND HELP ALONG WITH PROGRAMS LIKE, YEAH.
WELL, IT'S THAT, IT'S IRONIC THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF MARTIN MARIETTA.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONE PROJECT ON HERE THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF BECAUSE I'M READY FOR AN AMPHITHEATER TO BE BUILT FOR, TO GIVE OUR PEOPLE SOMETHING TO GO TO AND LISTEN TO CONCERTS AND HAVE FUN.
HOWEVER, I STILL SAY THAT, AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THIS ON MANY PROJECTS THAT I HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD, THAT WE GOT A NEW BOARD IS GOING TO BE SEATED IN 60 DAYS.
WE NEED TO WAIT AND SEE BEFORE WE A LOT, THIS, ALL THIS MONEY OR ALLOCATE ALL THIS MONEY, WE NEED TO WAIT AND SEE IF THE NEW BOARD HAS GOT ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THIS MONEY TO COUNTER.
I'D JUST LIKE TO GET SOME, OKAY.
SO I WAS ASKED BY THE MAYOR TO HAVE A MEETING IN REGARDS TO THESE FUNDS.
AND SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT I DID WAS, UM, THE, THE SUGGESTIONS THAT I BROUGHT TO THE BOARD WAS THE $250,000 FOR HOUSING REHABILITATION BECAUSE I WENT TO THE, UH, COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT MEETING, UH, YESTERDAY AND THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT AND, UH, NUMBERS, AND THEY WANT TO SEE SOME COMPLETION AND WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH HABITAT.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH HABITAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WITHIN THE CITY OF NEW BERN HOME OWNERS ARE ALSO HAVING THE ABILITY TO GET REPAIRS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU USE THE COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT, THERE'S HEAVIER RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE OF THE MONEY THAT IS COMING FROM WITH, WE DO IT WITH HABITAT.
I FELT ONE TIME BEFORE WE HAD ASKED HABITATS, THEY WOULD DO REHABS AND REMODELS, THE NEIGHBORS, RACHEL PROPERTY FOR RENTAL PROPERTY.
SO LIKE, IF YOU OWN A RENTAL PROPERTY, NO, THEY DON'T DO THAT.
BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY RIGHT FOR YOU.
THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS, UM, UM, I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF NONPROFITS.
THEY DO A LOT OF THE WORK THAT NECESSARILY WE CAN'T DO IN THE CITY.
SO JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE COVID FUNDS, UM, DOING ANOTHER 200 FEET, WELL DOING $250,000 FOR THEM TO APPLY, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR THE MCCOTTER HOUSE, BECAUSE THAT IS A PROJECT WITH WELLNESS DOWN THERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING, UM, TO, TO COMPLETE IT, IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I ALSO STATED, UM, HENDERSON PARK, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THEY PROVIDED, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO HAVE COVERED BASKETBALL? UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN HIM, UH, WHEN STANLEY WHITE IS GOING TO BE BUILT.
UM, AND BECAUSE OF THAT PROCESS, WE DON'T HAVE A GYMNASIUM WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN PLAY BASKETBALL ALL DAY OR HOWEVER.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO UPFIT HENDERSON PARK, WHY NOT PUT THIS COVER OVER IT SO THAT, THAT THEY CAN PLAY OUTSIDE, EVEN IF IT'S RAINING.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I DID NOT SUGGEST THE MILLION TOWARDS THE, UM, ELEVATOR.
I DIDN'T SUGGEST THE MILLION TOWARDS STANLEY WHITE, ALTHOUGH THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED FROM FEMA AND THE MONTH'S MONEY THAT WE GOT OBVIOUSLY RECEIVED WITH THE ELEVATOR PROJECT, THAT THE PRICE WILL GO UP.
YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE FUN.
SO I'M NOT AGAINST IT BEING ALLOCATED.
I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF THE MARTIN MARIETTA, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT IS ENTERTAINMENT THAT'S BEING BROUGHT TO OUR CITY.
UM, AND IT IS UPFITTING THE OUTSIDE, THE OUTSIDE, UM, LIKE THE, THE MAYOR WAS EXPLAINING THE FOSTER WAS EXPLAINING BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE OUR MOVABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, STAGE TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE THAT INCOME.
AND THEN I'M ALSO A BIG PROPONENT AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE REMAINDER OF THE MONEY GOING TO SIDEWALKS AND, AND STORM WATER.
WE ONLY BEEN ALLOCATED 3.3 MILLION AND WE ARE A SITTING BOARD THAT RECEIVED THAT MONEY.
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WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT 3.3 MILLION.IF WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THE ROUTE OF THERE'S A NEW BOARD BEING SET, UH, SET IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS, THREE OF YOU WILL BE ON THAT BOARD.
SO YOU CAN WEIGH IN ON THE DECISION OF WHERE WE SPEND THE 3.3, BUT WE SHOULD NOT KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THE 3.3, WHETHER IT'S ALLOCATED TO STORM WATER OR WHEREVER WE NEED TO ALLOCATE SOME OF THIS MONEY.
SO I GUESS EVERY SUGGESTION OF WHAT ALL THE MEN, UH, ODOM SAID IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, GETTING BACK WITH MR. WHAT'S YOUR FEEDBACK.
AND THEN MAYBE WE BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT MEETING.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT IN THE GRANTS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S THE START, UM, TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS MONEY PART OF IT.
AND TO PUT THE RESPONSIBILITY ON, ON THE NEXT BOARD IS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE NEXT 3.3 MILLION, BUT UNTIL THEN WE HAVE NEEDS THAT ARE IMMEDIATE.
AND THE COMMUNITIES RIGHT NOW, WE GIVE $250,000 A HABITAT THAT AS MORE PEOPLE, THAT THEY CAN HELP GET THEM HOMES UP TO CODE.
SO THEY'RE NOT BEING TORN DOWN.
UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT, JUST LIKE BOBBY SAID, WE CAN GIVE MORE MONEY TO THE REDEVELOPMENT THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY ON.
NOW YOU HAVE THE SIDEWALKS, ALL OF THAT.
SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
SO I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR, UM, YOU KNOW, INITIATING AND TAKING THE LEADERSHIP AND IN DOING THAT, UH, UH, APPRECIATE ALL OF Y'ALL THAT ATTENDED THAT MEDIUM THIS MORNING.
UM, LIKE I SAID TO GET THIS STARTED, BUT, UM, KIM, WHEN DID, WHEN DID WE RECEIVE, UM, THIS FIRST $3.3 MILLION? IT WAS IN MAY? WAS IT, UH, DO YOU REMEMBER IF IT WAS THE LATTER PART OF MAY OR THE BEGINNING OF MAY AND OKAY.
AND, AND I, AND I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T AGREE WITH Y'ALL WHEN YOU SIT UP HERE AND YOU SAY, LET THE INCOMING BOARD MAKE NOTES OF DECISIONS IN MAY.
WE WOULD STILL BE SITTING HERE IN THESE SEATS.
I FEEL THAT WE, AS A BOARD NEED TO TAKE DIRECTION AND WE ARE, THE ONES NEEDED ALLOCATE THAT MONEY FOR PROJECTS.
UM, AND, AND I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA SIT UP HERE AND DISRESPECT ANY ONE OF YOU OF WHAT YOU HAVE SAID THAT YOU WANTED TO DO WITH THIS MONEY, BECAUSE THAT'S Y'ALL'S DECISION.
BUT MY DECISION IS THAT THERE'S NUMEROUS THINGS UP HERE AND I'M LIKE, OH, I'M LIKE, OH, WELL, I WANT TO COME BACK TO FOSTER.
AND I WANT, W WE NEED TO READDRESS THIS BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THESE PROJECTS TAKES PRIORITY OVER OTHERS.
AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE LIVES OF OUR CITIZENS.
SO THAT'S THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT THIS WHOLE PROJECT WITH THIS $6.7 MILLION.
SO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, OH, IS THERE ANY ONE SINGLE ITEM ON HERE THAT THE BOARD WOULD FEEL LIKE THAT MARCH 8TH THAT'S TILING MOVED FORWARD? I MEAN, MONEY IS FAILING.
UM, MAYBE SOME OF THESE ARE VERY IMMEDIATE NEEDS, $2 MILLION.
CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED AT THE LAST MEETING IS HARVEST.
THAT'S EXACTLY THE AMOUNT WE TALKED ABOUT.
IT'S THERE I SAY, GET THE MONEY AND GO, IS THERE A MOTION? MAY I INTERJECT? OKAY, SURE.
WHEN YOU SAY $2 MILLION, NOW YOU LOOK AT THIS, I LOOK AT THIS ESTIMATE SHEET THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME AT THAT WORKSHOP AND WITHIN AN S WITHIN THAT $2 MILLION, IT'S NOT ALL ALLOCATED FOR DRAINAGE FOR APPEAL SIMMONS STREET, HAZEL AVENUE, AND ALL OF THAT AREA.
AND FOR THE EAST ROAD STREET PROJECT, IT'S GOT NUMEROUS PROJECTS WITHIN THAT $2 MILLION.
SO I'M LOOKING, WHAT I'M TALKING FOR YOU IS BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE A PROJECT FOR THE BIDDLE STREET PORTION OF THIS, UH, OF THE DUFFIELD STORMWATER PROJECT.
I KNOW IT WAS AT THE NORTH SIDE, YOU GOT THE NORTH SIDE, NORTH HILLS AND YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT A PROJECT LIKE THE BIDDLE STREET PROJECT.
I'M LOOKING FOR A PROJECT TO COME OVER ON THE NORTH HILLSIDE.
IF IT MEANS PUTTING IN PUMPS, IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE $2 MILLION OF PUTTING IN PUMPS, MARY YOU, THE EXPERT HERE, IS IT GONNA TAKE $2 MILLION AS WE DISCUSSED IN THAT FEBRUARY 24TH MEETING? I KNOW FROM OUR MEETING WITH STAFF AGAIN, I THINK THEY ARE, THEY GOT A DIRECTION OUT TO MOVE FORWARD AND START IS APPLE TO COME UP AND ANSWER THAT COMING UP.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I RESPECT EVERYTHING, BUT WE AGREED ON THAT AMOUNT BASED ON ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE BEING DONE.
SO, SO FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, ARE YOU ASKING FOR 2 MILLION TO BE ALLOCATED
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TO A SEPARATE PROJECT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE NORTHFIELD SIDE? WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS WHATEVER IT'S GONNA TAKE TO GET THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM STARTED OVER ON NORTH HILLS, HAZEL AVENUE, SIMMONS STREET, THAT PORTION OF DUFFIELD EAST ROAD STREET.WHAT IS IT GONNA TAKE TO GET THAT PROJECT STARTED? WHETHER IT'S IMPLEMENTING, UM, ALDERMAN ALDERMAN HERE.
UM, THIS WAS THE ESTIMATED $2 MILLION FOR DRAINAGE DEFENSE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT TO HIM.
NO BRAINER SAY THE EAST ROADS CULVER WAS HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, CORRECT? UM, THAT IS CORRECT.
FOR, UM, NORTH HILLS, THAT STUFF THAT WE CAN GET GOING QUICKLY BY, BY GOING IN AND PUTTING THE $2 MILLION TOWARDS THIS, AND THEN IT'LL GIVE SOME BANK STABILIZATION, NORFOLK, SOUTHERN CULVERT REPLACEMENT, WHICH IMPACTS THAT AREA OVER THERE BY, UH, BIDDLE AND BEHIND THAT WAY.
SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH TAKING THE $2 MILLION AND GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND IT'S HERE OUTLINED FOR MS. CHARLES, COULD YOU JUST KIND OF INTERVENE AND GIVE SOME THAT? I CERTAINLY CAN.
THE STUDY PORTION OF THE ORDEAL, WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED OUR LETTER INTENT TO FUND FROM THE STATE ON THAT STUDY THIS WEEK.
SO WE'VE GOT AN ALTERNATE FUNDING FOR THAT STUDY, WHICH IS GOING TO LOOK AT THE NORTH HILLS, THE CANAL, WHAT WE CAN DO THERE, IF THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO PUMPING, UM, OR UPSTREAM RETENTION TO ASSIST IN THAT AREAS THAT, THAT STUDY AND DOES THAT STUDY PORTION TO GIVE US ALTERNATIVES OR WHAT WE CAN DO IS IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT, THAT COULD BE ONE, ONE LINE ITEM ON THIS LIST THAT IS, WE FOUND ALTERNATE FUNDING WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THAT.
AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR A BREAK THE BANK TONIGHT WHILE TRY TO GET STARTED ON 70 SPOTS, KNOWING THAT THIS MIGHT OPEN THE DOOR TO US INSTEAD, WE'RE GOING TO COME UP THAT WE CAN EITHER PAY AS YOU GO OR INSTALLMENT LOAN.
WE CAN, WE CAN ADD TO IT, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET STARTED ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.
AGAIN, THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR THE NEW BOARD TO SPEND FUNDS FROM THIS.
CAN WE INCORPORATE $2,000 FOR HOUSING REHABILITATION? IF WE AGREE ON IT, LET'S JUST SO WE CAN KIND OF MAKE SOME BROACH WHAT WOULD JUST GET APPROVAL ON ONE, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THAT.
SO GEORGE, WITH THIS STUDY, YOU SAID, IT'D BE BACK WITH HIM WORK MAYBE 60 DAYS.
I THINK WE HAVE A NINE, THEY LIVE IN OVER A WINNER TO GIVE US SOME ALTERNATIVES OF, THEN WE CAN GO MOVE BACK FOR Y'ALL AND SAY, THESE ARE OUR ALTERNATIVES.
OKAY, WELL, WHAT THE CONSULTANTS THINK WILL WORK AND WHAT WE CAN GET PERMITTED.
AND THEN THAT WAY WE HOPE TO HAVE SOME COST ESTIMATE ON GOING FORWARD WITH ONE OF THOSE, IF WE SEE, SO I'M GOING TO THROW IT OUT HERE TO YOU, HYPOTHETICALLY WITH YOU HAVE EFFECTS THAT STUDY IS FEASIBLE AND THEY JUST SAY, YES, WE CAN PUT A PUMPING SYSTEM OVER THERE.
WHAT AMOUNT OF MONEY? JUST AN ESTIMATE OR WHAT DO YOU THINK A PUMP SYSTEM WOULD BE IN THERE? THERE'S 2 MILLION.
IT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SAY.
I MEAN, WE'RE JUST IN THE, THE STUDY PROCESS OF IT.
I HATE TO SPECULATE AND GIVE YOU A NUMBER AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ANY FAITH IN THAT COURTESY OF THAT, SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COSTS OF PUMPS COSTS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT SIZE PUMPS ARE GONNA BE.
WHAT'S GOING TO BE JUST AN ESTIMATE.
YOU CAN GO FROM 500,000 TO A MILLION.
YOU COULD BE AS SMALL AS A QUARTER MILLION.
WE COULD BE AT TWO AND A HALF MILLION.
AND THAT GIVES ME SOME PARTS OF WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING.
BUT, UM, I KNOW MAYOR, YOU HADN'T EXPRESSED A TIME BEFORE IN A COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT WE HAD AND YOU PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON PUMPS.
I THINK YOU SAID LIKE 21,000 GALLON.
YOU NEED CALL ABOUT EIGHT OR 10,000 GALLON ELECTRIC, BUT GEORGE OWL.
IT'S AS DIFFICULT TO SPEC WHEN, WHEN WE'RE JUST GETTING INTO THIS.
WHAT WAS YOUR ORIGINAL, THE HOLLOW MAN? I HEARD, UH, I WON'T SAY FLEE IF I GET A MOTION A SECOND OR WHAT YOU MENTIONED TO ME, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND WHICH PARTICULAR ITEM ARE YOU DRAINAGE, SIR? WELL, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE 2.4, 5 MILLION OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE 2.4, 5 MILLION? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2.45.
IT SAYS DRAINAGE AND SIDEWALKS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT $2 MILLION FOR DRAINAGE.
WELL, AM I, ARE YOU, ARE YOU FROM MAKING A MOTION ON THAT? I'M LOOKING FOR SOME IMAGINE WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE A PROJECT FUND OR A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING OFFICIAL, I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE.
AND WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE A LIST OF THE PROJECT.
SO YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE JUST DIRECTION.
SO WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO VOTE, BUT I MEAN, SHOW, I'M TRYING TO LOCK THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
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DON'T VACILLATE BACK AND FORTH THESE ITEMS. I WOULD LIKE TO, CAN WE JUST DO ONE AT A TIME THEN THIS YEAR I'M SAYING THE PROTOCOL SAYS THAT ALL THE WOMAN HERE SAID THE NEXT ITEM AND YOU HAVE THE THIRD, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION.I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ALLOCATE TO $2 MILLION TO DRAINAGE FROM THE ARP FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED AND FOR, TO COME UP ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO, OR IS THAT, THAT WAS 2 MILLION DRAINAGE WHO SAT THERE WAS THERE A SECOND.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION SEEING NONE SAM ROBOCOP, STARTING WITH ARMAN BENGAL? I DON'T REMEMBER THE BINGO.
WELL, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, UM, IF WE CAN ALLOCATE $250,000 TO, UM, HOUSING REHABILITATION, BECAUSE THAT IS AN IMMEDIATE AND CAN HELP WITH IN CITY LIMITS.
WELL, ALL THE HAIR SOMEBODY ASKED YOU ABOUT THAT WHEN WE SAY HOW'S HER REHABILITATION NOW.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING THAT $250,000 AND PARTNERING WITH HABITAT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO ALL OF THE WORKFORCE AND WORK WITH THE OWNERS THAT HAVE HOMES THAT NEED TO BE REHABBED.
SO THIS HAS NOTHING THAT $250,000 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
THEY WORK WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREAS.
SO IT WOULD HA ARE YOU RESTRICTING IT TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA OR RESTRICTED BECAUSE EVERY WEEKEND RESTRICTED THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE FUNDS, I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FUNDS TO GO TO REHABBING HOMES AND HABITAT HAS EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED FOR THEM TO DO THEIR ONE-STOP SHOP.
AND I MEAN, WE WORK WITH THEM.
WE GIVE THEM LAND TO BUILD HOMES.
AND SO THAT HELPS WITH THE TEXTS THAT WE BRING IN, BUT WE STILL NEED TO MAINTAIN THE HOMES THAT ARE HERE THAT LIVE, PEOPLE LIVE IN THE CITY AND THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THE WORK AND PARTNER.
I THOUGHT THAT WE, AS A BOARD AGREED TO GIVE HIM $150,000 FROM THE CDBG FUND TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR REHAB.
UM, BUT THIS IS TH TH THE CDBG FUNDS.
THOSE WERE THE FUNDS THAT WERE UNUSED AND UNSPENT, UM, THAT COULDN'T BE USED ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO RESTRICTED.
IT'S THE RESTRICTION OF THE HUD, OR EXCUSE ME, THE HUD FUNDS BBG.
I SEE THAT $150,000 EACH YEAR.
OR ARE WE UP TO AS OF THE CDBG ACTUAL PLAN THAT $150,000? ARE WE GOING TO ALLOCATE THAT EACH YEAR TO HAVE THAT? NO, NO, THIS IS, THIS IS PAST BBG FUNDS THAT WERE UNSPENT.
SO THEY'RE USING THOSE TO REHAB THE HOUSE THAT WAS MOVED FROM GASTON BOULEVARD OVER TO BLOOMFIELD STREET.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR MONTHS NOW WITH HABITAT AND, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, I'VE WORKED VERY HARD AND TRYING TO BRING ALL THE PARTNERS TO THE TABLE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE START DOING THIS.
I'M, YOU KNOW, THE THING HAS BEEN WITH HABITAT THAT THEY ONLY HELP HOMEOWNERS SOME OF THE ISSUE IN, UM, IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY, IN THE CNI IS THAT THE AMOUNT OF OWNERSHIP ISN'T VERY GREAT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S MOSTLY PEOPLE LIVING IN RENTAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT BEING CARED FOR BY THEIR, UM, LANDLORDS OR THE LANDLORDS MAY NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO FIX THEM UP.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE AND A WHOLE NOTHER PROBLEM.
THESE FUNDS WOULD NOT HELP THOSE PEOPLE.
THE OTHER CDBG FUNDS WE HAD DID NOT HELP THOSE PEOPLE.
I'M JUST WONDERING, AND, YOU KNOW, BY GIVING THE MONEY TO HABITAT, DO WE OPEN THE DOOR? DO WE START A PRECEDENCE FOR SOMETHING THAT SOME OTHER ORGANIZATION OR SOMEBODY ELSE STARTS DOING? WOULD IT BE BETTER TO SAY AND HOW SO WE DEFINED WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE AND PEOPLE MAKE APPLICATION TO US SAY A LEAKING ROOF UP THIS OR THAT.
I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE IF I WENT BY THE HOUSE TODAY IN DEPTH OF FIELD THAT, THAT SO BAD I HAD VISITED BEFORE THE ELECTRIC IS NOT GOOD.
PEOPLE SHOULD BE LIVING THERE, BUT IT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY AND THE PERSON CAN NOT PAY THE RENT, PAY ANY MORE RENT.
AND THEY'RE AFRAID OF BEING KICKED OUT.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LIVES OF OUR CITIZENS, ALDERMAN BASS, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
SO I'M WORRIED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING IN 250,000 TO HABITAT AND HABITAT DOES, THEY ARE PROBABLY THE BEST ORGANIZATION TO PARTNER WITH EVERYTHING
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THEY DO.AND I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR MIKE WILLIAMS. UM, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO THINK LONG AND HARD ON HOW THE MONEY'S MANAGED.
I'M JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD JUST BE WRITING CHECKS SO I CAN, I CAN, UM, I CAN MEET YOU HALFWAY.
SO IF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I KNEW THAT WE WERE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF MAINTAINING THE MONEY AND DOING IT.
BUT NOW THAT WE SEE THE NEED AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, IF WE'RE WILLING TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, THIS AVENUE WHERE WE HAVE THIS MONEY, IF WE DO IT IN HOUSE, I ABSOLUTELY WILL GET BEHIND THIS.
I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO HAVE CRITERIA AND IT NEEDS TO HAVE, SO I MEAN, IF WE CAN, OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM HABITAT, SEE IF THEY WOULD EVEN DO IT.
UM, THE WAY SHE'S SAYING IT IS IN REGARDS TO BEING IN-HOUSE AND THEY COME IN.
AND SO THE CITIZENS WOULD COME TO LET'S SAY, AND LET THEM GO TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HANDLING.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALREADY HANDLED FOR CITIZENS THROUGH THE CBB PROGRAM FUNDS THROUGH WOMEN, WOMEN, WOMEN, THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ASIA IS THE ONE THAT HANDLES THAT PRACTICE.
THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE NOT REACHING VERY FEW PEOPLE CAN USE THE, BECAUSE OF THE GUIDELINES SET UP WITH, BUT WITH THIS, WE COULD SET UP OUR OWN GUIDE.
SO IT MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, INCOME LEVEL.
IT JUST MAY BE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE 62 OR OLDER AND YOUR ROOF IS LEAKING.
IT WOULD PROVIDE FUNDING AND MAYBE MAKE APPLE CIDER IS GOING TO BE RESTRICTED TO ONE AREA OF THE REDEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S NO, THAT'S AGAIN, THERE'S NO CRITERIA.
SO IF WE'RE AT WE'RE IN AGREEANCE, THAT THAT SOME OF THE FUNDS COULD BE ALLOCATED OR WHATEVER, WE DECIDE IF WE WERE IN THE CONVERSATION, CAN WE FURTHER THE CONVERSATION IN WHETHER WE, I HATE THE AD HOC GROUPS, BUT IF WE'RE, IF WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE NEED, NOW, CAN WE HAVE, CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONVERSATION TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CREATE THIS PROGRAM THAT THE CITY IS DOING? ARE WE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE CAN DO THAT NOW? AND, AND AGAIN, I THINK WE NEED, WE NEED TO BRING A HABITAT TO THE TABLE.
I THINK WE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR THAT MATTER, AND LET'S JUST TALK AND SEE HOW WE CAN USE THE CITY'S GOING TO APPROPRIATE THE FUNDS.
AND WE'RE GOING TO APPROPRIATE THE FUNDS TO IN THE PROPER MANNER WITH RESTRICTIONS AND WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THE FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT CORRECTLY.
AND, YOU KNOW, UH, REHABILITATION IS, IS KEY IN THAT WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BRING IT UP, DUDE.
YOU CAN BRING IT UP THERE IN REGARDS TO HABITAT TOO.
I'M SAYING AT THAT MEETING CAUSE MIKE OR ANTOINETTE IS USUALLY THERE.
LET'S JUST PUT IT OUT ON THE TABLE.
IF THEY'RE INTERESTED, HABITAT AND REDEVELOPMENT IS INTERESTED FOR US TO COME TOGETHER TO CREATE SOME CRITERIA AND A GAME PLAN IN REGARDS TO HOW WE CAN BEST UTILIZE SOME OF THESE FUNDS TO HELP WITH REHABBING HOMES WITHIN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS AS ATTORNEY DAVIS, CAN WE AS A CITY, THESE ARE ARP FUNDS.
CAN WE, AS A CITY TAKE THIS MONEY AND PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THIS, THIS MONEY FOR, AS THIS REHABILITATION.
YES, MA'AM, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO STAFF THAT SAYS TONIGHT, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS IF YOU'RE STAYING ON THE SAME PATH IS GIVING STAFF SOME DIRECTION ABOUT PROGRAM PARAMETERS.
STAFF CAN THEN COME BACK WITH A PRECISE PLAN BECAUSE THERE ARE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE TIED TO THIS MONEY.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP IS TO, IS TO HAVE STAFF GET THE LEGAL PARAMETERS TOGETHER.
AND THEN WHILE WE'RE YOU'RE DOING THE STAFF IS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB WITH THAT.
WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION WITH THE OTHER TWO PARTIES INVOLVED TO SEE IF IT CAN ACTUALLY BE EXECUTED.
THAT'S HOW, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT START.
YOU AGREE? YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
SO, SO, SO TELL ME HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.
YOU'RE GOING TO REPORT BACK TO BEFORE.
WELL, STAFF IS GOING TO TAKE THIS DIRECTION, UH, AND GIVE YOU SOME CRITERIA FOR WHAT A PROGRAM MIGHT LOOK LIKE, OWNER TENANTS, ALL THE VARIOUS POSSIBILITIES, AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN NARROW DOWN CITYWIDE, RIGHT? IF, IF HABITATS, WE'RE NOT WORKING WITH RENTERS, WE'RE ONLY WORKING WITH OWNERS, IS THAT A RESTRICTION THAT WILL BE LIMITED AND WE WOULD, AND THAT WOULDN'T BE AGREEABLE TO ARP FUNDS.
THAT'S WHY I THINK THE QUESTION IS CORRECT.
AND THAT'S WHY CDBG DOES NOT GIVE MONEY TO A WEALTHY LANDLORDS WHO SHOULD BE SETTING UP THEIR PROPERTIES FOR LOWER INCOME PEOPLE.
AND YOU DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE WITH OTHER MOMS. AND THAT'S PROBABLY A RESTRICTION.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I THINK OVER IN THE MOST OF THE CONCERN AREAS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LANDLORDS THAT ARE LOW INCOME AND YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN THEIR OWN PROPERTY, LET ALONE THE RENTAL PROPERTY.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MINISTER, YES.
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THERE MAY BE RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU WOULD RECORD AGAINST THE PROPERTY TO ENSURE THAT IT'S USED FOR A PERIOD OF 10, 20 YEARS FOR LOW INCOME TENANTS.SO THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS, BUT STAFF'S GONNA NEED TO WORK THROUGH THIS.
IT'S THE POINT OF TAKING THE STEP TO DO THAT? NO.
UH, WHAT ARE THE ITEMS, UH, COULD THE BOARD MUTUALLY AGREE ON TO MOVE FORWARD? SOME OF THE ARP THEORY THAT WE LOOK AT THE MONEY FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO RENOVATE THE MCCARTER HOUSE AND THE WELLNESS.
I MEAN, THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE WORSE, ALL THAT SHOPS, WE AGREE.
AND AGAIN, WHAT I'LL SAY TO THAT, THAT'S THE NUMBER THERE? I THINK AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST KIND OF EARMARK NUMBER.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS WRITTEN IN STONE.
YOU GO TO THEM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHAT BOTHERED ME AGAIN TODAY? I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ON ADA COMPLIANCE.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET PEOPLE IN THE DOOR AND GET THEM TO ANY OTHER PART OF THAT HOUSE UPSTAIRS? YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR A HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER, PEOPLE CAN'T GET IN IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE.
SO AGAIN, WE NEED TO GO IN THERE.
AND THEN IF THERE'S NO MONEY FOR PROGRAMMING, BUT EAR MARKET, I HAVE NO ISSUE IN EARMARKING THE MONEY AND LEAVING IT THAT WAY.
WE CAN GO BACK AND LET THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PUT A PLAN BACK TOGETHER AND SAID, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK WE CAN DO.
AND THIS IS LET THEM GET THE COST I GET BEHIND ARAMARK.
AND THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THAT WE'RE SHOWING THEM THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO FOR THE MERCADO.
YES, MA'AM AND THE DIRECTION TO STAFF WOULD BE HELPFUL.
ACTUALLY, THIS WILL BE SECTION TO THE REBUILT COMMISSION.
IF THE BOARD IS SO INCLINED TO, UM, ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE.
DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS BASED ON YOUR INSPECTION OF THAT BELLEVUE, UM, ALDERMAN BEST, UH, WITH THE ASSISTANT MANAGER WILLIAMS VISITED THE SITE AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER BEHIND EITHER BEHIND OR BESIDES THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE THAT PROPERTY TO HELP WITH THE PARKING SITUATION SO THAT OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS PARKING.
THERE IS SOME ADA ISSUES HAS GOT TO BE ADDRESSED AND HE'S IN THE ROOF.
UM, IT NEEDS SOME WORK, BUT I THINK $250,000.
AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT HERE.
UM, BUT I THINK IT WOULD GO A LONG WAYS TOWARDS THAT.
SO BY LOOKING AT THAT BUILDING THAT BUILDING HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL INSIDE AND IT JUST NEEDS SOME LOVE.
AND FOR LIKE YOU SAID, THE ROOF AND THE WINTERS I SAW WAS THE MAIN ISSUE WITH THAT HOUSE.
I'M QUITE SURE THIS STUFF, LET THEM COME BACK TO US.
MAYBE THEY CAN DO IT FOR 125 OR 50, BUT LET'S, YOU KNOW, I SAY THAT IT'S OKAY.
WE JUST DON'T WANT TO READ ABOUT THE MEALS WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH THE TRUE ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT WOULD BE.
CAUSE WE TRY TO DO TRY TO GET IN THERE ON SATURDAY, BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO, WHEN WE DID THE TOUR, OKAY, THIS IS THE BOARD AND AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE MCCARTER HOUSE BECAUSE THEY MAY OBJECT TO THAT.
UH, THIS, THE BOARD, DOES THE STAFF HAVE DIRECTIONAL ETHNICITY? WHAT OTHER ITEMS MIGHT WE ALL AGREE ON IN OUR FAIR CITY THAT NEED ATTENTION? CAN WE ALLOCATE SOME MONEY TO THE SIDEWALKS, TO I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO, BUT LET ME MENTION ONE THING, UM, BRING US UP TO DATE.
I KNOW THAT WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THE BASKETBALL COURT AND THAT WE FOUND OUT THAT YOU THERE'S A TIMETABLE ON THAT TO AVOID LOSING FUNDING FAMOUS.
SO WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? AND IF WE WERE TO ALLOCATE MONEY FOR THE HENDERSON PARK, WHEN, WHEN COULD WE DO THAT? AND RIGHT.
SO JUST SAY THE BASKETBALL GOALS ARE SCHEDULED, GO IN.
I BELIEVE THE FIRST OF NEXT WEEK, THE CORD ITSELF WILL BE INSTALLED RIGHT AFTER THAT.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE AN 84 FOOT LONG COURT, 50 FEET WIDE.
SO THAT'S HIGH SCHOOL REGULATION COURT.
UH, WE, WE HAD APPLIED FOR A CHANGE.
IT'S GOOD TO WORK WITH FEMA TO, TO INCLUDE LIKE FOR THE BASKETBALL BOARD, UH, SHELTER ADJACENT TO THE, UM, THE BASKETBALL COURT WHERE THAT CAN DOUBLE AS A FARMER'S MARKET AND A LARGER SHELTER GATHERINGS, UH, SOME BLEACHERS, SOME, SOME CONCRETE KIDS' GAMES, SUCH AS BINGO, HOPSCOTCH, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT WOULD BE, UH, ON THE EXISTING, UH, FOUNDATION OF THE OLD RECREATION CENTER GRADES TO THE PARKING LOT, AS WELL AS CHANGING OUT THE OLD, UH, FITNESS TRAIL TO INCLUDE NEWER AMENITIES THAT TRAIL WAS PUT IN OVER 20 YEARS AGO.
SO IT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S LIVED ITS USEFUL LIFE.
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SO THOSE WERE, AND WE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO OUR CONSULTANTS AND THEN WHICH WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR FEMA ON, ON WORK PERMIT, CHANGE THE SCOPE OF THE WORK THAT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNTS BACK THAT WE STILL WILL BE INSTALLING A BRAND NEW SET OF RESTROOMS OVER AT THE PARK AS WELL.BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR FEMA ON THAT.
I ASKED THE STATE TODAY TO GIVE US AN ESTIMATED TIMEFRAME FOR SCOPE OF WORK.
THEY WERE GOING TO REACH OUT, SEE WHERE IT WAS AT.
SO LET'S FEEL AS A BOARD ABOUT THE HARRISON PARK.
SO I THINK I'LL WAIT UNTIL WE GET THE SCOPE OF WORK BACK.
I MEAN, WE'RE REALLY, SHOULDN'T BE GETTING IT BACK IN TIME.
IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY DENY THAT PUTTING THE HORSE BEFORE THE CART BEFORE, DO YOU THINK WHAT'S YOUR EXPERTISE THAT THEY WOULD DENY THAT CHANGE OF SCHOOL WHO KNOWS WHAT FEMA WILL DO NOWADAYS? IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD DENY, BUT THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF THOSE STUFF THAT WAS HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE AS WELL.
SO I DO THINK, I DO THINK THAT WE'RE ON THE SHORT ROWS OF GETTING AN ANSWER WHERE THE BOARD WON'T ENTERTAIN MOVING FORWARD ON THAT WITH SUBJECT TO THE FEMA APPROVAL OF, SO ARE YOU SAYING $500,000 IS GOING TO DO COMPLETE NEW REDO THAT WHOLE HENDERSON PART WITH ALL THEM ENTITIES? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, NO, NO.
SO WE HAD ON THIS WAS A PUZZLE TO COVER THE BASKETBALL COURT WITH A SHELTER.
AND THEN YOU RECEIVED A, UH, AN IMAGE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THAT.
UH, AS WELL AS DO SOME OTHER AMENITIES, OTHER AMENITIES, BATHROOMS, NOT NECESSARILY RESTROOMS, BUT IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE SOME UPDATING OF THE LINES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AFFECTED.
IT COULD BE SOME NEW FENCING AROUND THOSE BALL FIELDS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THE SCOPE OF WORK.
IF THEY DENY THE CHANGE OF SCOPE OF WORK, WE'RE GOING TO BE PUT THE BATHROOMS IN CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE MONEY WAS ALIVE FOR.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT ON THAT PROJECT UNTIL WE HEAR BACK FROM FEMA REGARDLESS, THE BASKETBALL COURT IS GOING IN, BUT THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING THAT.
GENERAL FUND FOR PARKS AND RECREATION.
AND I DON'T EVEN WANT TO MENTION IT, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AND MAYBE SPEND SOME OF THIS MONEY.
I THINK BEFORE I PUT A COVER ON A BASKETBALL COURT, I WOULD SPEND THE MONEY ON THE DRAINAGE ISSUE BECAUSE THE KIDS CAN PLAY ON THOSE FIELDS OVER THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I'VE GONE OUT THERE MR. BROWN, AND I SEE MR. WHITE OUT THERE, HE'S TELLING ME AS WELL ABOUT, UM, HOW BAD THEY CAN'T PLAY BASEBALL AND YEAH.
BUT YEAH, YOU CAN'T FEEL IT EITHER.
I ASKED YOU, I ASKED YOU ABOUT THAT DITCH EARLIER.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I FEEL IT, SORRY.
UM, WELL I DON'T KNOW, BUT WHAT CAN THEY DO THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT I REALLY WANT TO HAVE RESOLVED BECAUSE I WANT THE KIDS TO BE ABLE TO PLAY BASEBALL THERE AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DO IN THOSE FIELDS.
AND IF THEY'RE ALWAYS MUDDY OR THEY'RE ALWAYS FULL OF WATER, THEN THEY'RE NO GOOD TO ANYBODY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RATHER SPEND THE MONEY RATHER THAN COVERING THE BASKETBALL COURT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INDOOR BASKETBALL COURT AT STANLEY WHITE.
AND THE REASON BEHIND THAT WAS BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY, THERE IS NOTHING FOR THE CHILDREN TO DO RIGHT NOW.
BUT I AGREE BECAUSE THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT OUR DAUGHTER TO FOSTER.
AND THEN THIS MORNING ABOUT THAT DITCH OVER THERE IN REGARDS TO HOW IS IT LOOKING AT THAT WOULD BE MY .
I DO AGREE WITH THAT WATER SITUATION OVER THERE.
I DO ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN STAFF REACHING OUT AND SEEING THE PERMITTED POSSIBILITIES OF, UH, A FOOT TO TWO FOOT FURTHER BACKFIELD AS AREAS.
I KNOW THE FAMILY FIELD, WHAT WE GET ALL AT PREPARATION THAT IRRIGATION I SEND, THERE WAS SOME FIELD WE'RE ALL IN.
WERE YOU HERE AT THE TIME? NO, SIR.
WELL, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT WAS VERY MARGINAL AT BEST.
DAN, BEFORE WE SPENT ALL THAT MONEY ON SIDE, I THINK THAT WAS LASER ENGINEERED CROWN PROPERLY.
AND SO I'M NOT OF THE OPINION THAT THERE'S A 100% PRECLUSION FROM DOING SOME CONTOURING IN THAT AREA.
UM, AND WOULD THIS, WOULD THE BOARD WON'T BEGIN THE STAFF DIRECTION TO FIND OUT THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE? SOME OF THAT IS BRINGING IN SOME, THE PROPER FIELD MATERIAL, UM, IN THE CASE OF SOCCER FIELDS YEARS AGO AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE ON THERE THAT A HYBRID
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OF SOME CLAY AND MOSTLY SANDY LOAM SOIL WAS BROUGHT IN FOR THAT FIELD AT THE TIME.AND I THINK YOU COULD DO SIMILAR, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THERE THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK INTO.
AND IT WAS FOOTBALL THAT THEY PLAYED OUT THERE.
BUT I DO ALSO AGREE WITH ALDERMAN ASKED HER IN REGARDS TO, WE SHOULD PROBABLY, ALTHOUGH IT, IT, IT WOULD BE AMAZING TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ON HENDERSON PARK RIGHT NOW.
WE PROBABLY DO NEED TO WAIT FOR FEMA TO GET THAT.
I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T BE TELLING ABOUT SPENDING ANY MONEY.
WELL, WE KEEP DOING IS, IS WE GET READY TO DO SOMETHING AND THEN WE HAVE TO WAIT ON STUFF.
AND THEN THIS, HE HELPED ME WITH THIS.
I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU HAVE JUST AS MUCH KNOWLEDGE AS FEMA AS I DO.
FEMA, CERTAINLY FROWNS UPON BRINGING IN FIELD DIRT FOR AREAS BEEN DECLARED SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED BY FLOODING.
IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL? OR DO YOU NOT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF IT OR, UH, SHE DIDN'T HEAR ME.
DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION PERFECTLY? YES.
UM, I KNOW FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, WHICH I'M GOING TO ADMIT, I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT FROM MY KNOWLEDGE FEMA, FROWNS UPON YOU BRING IT IN FIELD DIRT FOR A PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN DECLARED SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED BY FLOODING TO BUILD A, TO BUILD SOMETHING ON IT.
I MEAN, IF IT'S THERE, YOU CAN USE IT, YOU CAN PUT IT BACK.
BUT IT'S MY, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN'T RAISE THE ELEVATION OF IT IF IT'S BEEN DECLARED SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED.
NOBODY IN THIS ROOM IS IN A POSITION TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT CAN BE ANSWERED BY WAY OF A GOOD SYSTEM OF FINDING OUT THE MANY ACRES OF LAND IN THE CITY IS THAT WE WORKED OUT SOME MITIGATED CREDIT SWAP ABUSE OF LAND, AND THAT WE TAKE A, UM, UPLANDS AREA AND MAKE IT A, UH, A WETLANDS AREA AND COMPENSATE.
I MEAN, NOBODY CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
IT HAS TO BE PROCESSED AND WORKED OUT PROPERLY CRAFTED WITH AN ENGINEER.
I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THE FOOTBALL FIELDS BACK THERE AND IT COULD, WE PUT THE FOOTBALL FIELDS BACK.
PUT THEM BACK WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY FLOOD, THEY FLOOD AND EVENTUALLY THE WATER RUNS OFF AND WE PLAY FOOTBALL AGAIN.
SO, BUT I JUST, PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO ANYTHING IN THAT AREA UNTIL WE HEAR BACK FROM THE SCOPE OF CHANGE, THE CHANGE, THE SCOPE OF WORK.
SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON IT.
THEN YOU SAID YOU PUT A CALL IN, I CALLED THE STATE TODAY AND GET AN UPDATE ON IT.
USUALLY THIS DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG, BUT WE'VE GOT REGARDLESS, WE GOT TO, WE GOT TO, UH, REVEAL THAT PARK.
WELL, I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY SPENT MONEY.
LIKE HE SAID, THE HOOPS ARE STILL GOING UP.
IT'S GOT TO MAKE THINGS ARE STILL HAPPENING.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, THE FEMA FUNDING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE HAD OUR FAIR SHARE OF DEALINGS WITH FEMA AND CHANGING SCOPES.
WE NEED TO JUST GO AHEAD AND IT BE WHAT IT IS SO THAT WE CAN GET IT DONE.
WELL, I KNOW, I THINK I'M DOING GREAT WITH THE MONEY THAT WE SPENT.
I WOULD JUST PUSH THAT TO THE SIDE RIGHT NOW.
AT LEAST WE'RE SPENDING SOME, THE MONEY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT $3 MILLION.
WELL, I'D SAY, WELL, THINGS GO SO FAR AS GOOD AND CALL IT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED SIDEWALKS.
WHY? I MEAN, I WOULD PUT THE HOLE UP $800,000 TOWARDS SIDEWALK, JUST $800,000.
THAT WAS LEFT FROM THE THREE WE WERE SPEAKING OR ANYTHING UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT THAT THE BOARD WANTS CLARITY ON.
UM, LAST I KNEW OF THE TWO 50, WE HAD SPENT ABOUT 85,000 OR SO AT THIS, ABOUT A MONTH AGO ON THE SIDEWALKS, IS THAT CORRECT? THEY HAVE ENCUMBERED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS ON SIDEWALKS OUT.
CAN YOU LET US KNOW WHERE THAT STANDS?
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YES.UH, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, I ALSO HAVE MY A'S MY SLEEVE HERE AND GEORGE CHARLES THAT CAN HELP ME OUT AS WELL, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THE, UM, UH, ESTIMATES FOR THE SIDEWALK THAT WE HAD LISTENED TO FOR, UH, THE BOARD.
AND WE ARE IN PROCESS OF GETTING THAT UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE CONTRACTOR NOW LAYING OUT THE SCOPE AND HOPEFULLY BEGINNING, UH, CONTRACTS IN CHARLOTTE.
NOW, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE GARDEN STREET? IT DOES NOT MEAN NO.
MA'AM THAT SEVENTY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR ESTIMATE THAT WE GAVE YOU ARE STILL PREPARING THE DOCUMENTS FOR THAT.
WE'LL BET WE'LL BE BACK TO YOUR SHORT, MAKE SURE YOU WROTE THOSE LIMITS ARE, IT WAS JUST BASED ON THAT FIELD OBSERVATION WE HAD FROM AROUND.
SO, UH, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, UM, I KNOW WHEN I READ BY THE DAY AND THERE'S JUST SEVERAL PLACES, UH, AROUND THE, UH, MEGA CENTER WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S A BIG EVENT, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR PARKING.
SO THEY'RE GOING ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN TOWARD GEORGE STREET.
AND THE SIDEWALK IS THE CEDAR GROVE EXTENSION THAT IT ALL OF A SUDDEN JUST ENDS ABOUT WHAT 300 FEET BEFORE BERT AND THOSE LITTLE DONUTS AROUND THERE, THEN A HOSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD, I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WHY, WHY WHILE GOING AROUND LOOKING FOR PERHAPS HAVING A WORSHIP, JUMP OUT ON THAT ONE.
IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT WHAT FOLKS ARE DOING IS THEY'RE USING THEM TO CEDAR GROVE SIDEWALL.
BUT THEN WHEN THERE IS A BIG EVENT, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC, FOOT TRAFFIC AND PARKING GOING TO THE, UH, MEGA CENTER AND WHAT TO DO.
AND THEY WELCOMED THAT SIDEWALK.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE HAVING A WALKOUT AND GO INTO THE ROAD TO GET ON DOWN TO THE MEGA CENTER BECAUSE THEY RAN OUT OF SIDEWALK.
SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE THINGS I THINK, PARTICULARLY WITH BIG EVENTS, MEGAN SAID, THEY REAL NICE IF WE KNEW WE HAVE THE SIDEWALKS PERFORMING AT THEIR OPTIMUM.
BUT WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THAT IN THE PAST WITH EVENTS AND THAT AREA.
SO, SO, UM, I WANT TO GET AN UPDATE HERE, SO WHAT, YOU MAY NOT HAVE IT AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT YOU PLANNED ON SPINNING FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR ON SIDEWALKS OF THAT $250,000? I BELIEVE WE HAVEN'T ALL SPENT THAT WAS BUDGETED WAS $250,000 BUDGET THIS PAST YEAR.
SO THEN YOU WILL BECOME GETTING BACK WITH THE 75,000, I THINK YOU WANT THEM TO KNOW ON GARDEN STREET.
I THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE A BUDGET FOR ALL SIDEWALLS EXACTLY.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT BUDGET NUMBER AND THEN ADD TO IT BASED ON WE SEE WHAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING AND COVERING AND THEN WHERE WE CAN GO IN NEW AREAS RIGHT NOW.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DIRECTED US WHILE WE'RE OUT THERE.
BUT, BUT IF WE GONNA PUT, UM, A MILLION DOLLARS IN SIDEWALKS, UM, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REDOING HIM SOME PART, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SIDEWALK WOULD BE GOOD TO TIE IN THERE FROM CHAPMAN STREET ON, AROUND HIM, SOME PART OF THE FIELD TO GARDEN STREET.
MR. HUGHES, WOULD YOU UPDATE BOARD ON CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD THIS MORNING WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S DOING THE SAME WORK RIGHT NOW? TRENT WOODS? YES.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, WITH, WITH A DESIGNER.
WE REALLY LIKE TO LOOK AT GETTING THEM TO COME IN AND GIVE US AN IDEA OF COST.
AND ONE OF THE PRODUCTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS GARDEN STREET AND ACTUALLY TYING THAT INTO CHATTING IN THE STREETS.
SO WE SHOULD BE COMING BACK TO YOU VERY SOON, UH, WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT.
SO WOULD THE BOARD WANT ME TO GIVE MR. HUGHES DIRECTION TO LOOK IN TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE FOOT TRAFFIC SIDEWALLS AND ENDED UP THE FIELD AREA? SO WHEN YOU CAN GET STARTED ON SOME OF THESE, IF WE HAD TO DO A BUNCH OF THEM OR WHATEVER, UM, OBVIOUSLY YOUR DEAL, WE WOULD HAVE TO BUDGET THEM, IS THAT CORRECT? BUT WE CAN'T DO IT THOUGH IF WE DON'T DO IT.
SO THE FIRST THING WOULD BE TO, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WORKS AND EVERYBODY ELSE, WE, WE GOTTA GET SOMEBODY TO DO THIS.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THAT BIG A DEAL TO GET AN ENGINEER.
AND THEN THE NEXT THING, THE BUDGET AMENDMENT THING.
I MEAN, HE'S ALREADY SITTING PROPERTY THERE.
THAT, THAT FIELD THOUGH, WHEN YOU'RE IN ONE PLACE WHERE ONE TRADE GOT TO BE TAKEN AS MAYOR, JUST A REMINDER THAT THE MPO IS IN THE MIDDLE OF AN UPDATE TO OUR BIKE
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AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN.I KNOW JEFF'S GONE, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL IN THE AUDIENCE.
I BELIEVE THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO PRESENT THAT IN MAY AS MY MEMORY CORRECTLY.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING AN UPDATED PLAN IN MAY THAT SAYS, THEY'VE LOOKED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT CONNECTIONS.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT'S PUT BEHIND THAT.
SO I PERSONALLY THINK YOU SHOULD WAIT UNTIL YOU GET A STRATEGIC PLAN TO SAY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE VERSUS JUST, I FELT LIKE A SIDEWALK SHOULD GO HERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M AN ODOR BACK TO YOU.
I CAN'T SEE, AND I MAY BE WRONG, BUT I CAN'T SEE WHAT THE MPO PLAN BRING IN A PEDESTRIAN BIKE SYSTEM IN DUFFIELD.
NOW I MAY BE WRONG AND I HOPE IT COMES TO FRUITION.
I JUST CAN'T SEE THAT THEY COMING INTO THAT DEPTH AREA OF DUFFIELD WITH THE SIDEWALK.
I MEAN, WITH THE BIKE, WITH THE BIKE PLAN, WITH SIDEWALKS, IF WE, AS IF WE, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY, DON'T GET THIS DONE FOR A SIDEWALK.
IT'S NOT GOING TO GET DONE IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT, WELL, I AGREE.
SO I AGREE THAT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE MPO PLAN WOULD PROBABLY NOT ADDRESS THAT, BUT IT WOULD ADDRESS THE CONNECTIVITY THAT WE DO NEED.
SO IN THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE'VE GOT SCHEDULED, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT THE PART, AGAIN, IN DUFFY FIELD, LOTS OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
YOU KNOW, YOUR AREA GUARD STREET, THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE.
BUT AGAIN, WITH HABITAT BUILDING HOUSES WITH REDEVELOPMENT HAS NOW BOUGHT A LOT OF FIRST AVENUE.
AND SO, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN THERE AND POTENTIALLY PUT THE HOUSES SET BACK ON THE PROPERTY SO THEY CAN WIDEN THE STRAIGHT LEFT THEY DID ON THIRD AVENUE, THIRD AVENUE.
NOW, IF YOU THINK BACK HOW NARROW THAT WAS, THE CITY BOUGHT ALL THOSE HOUSES.
THEY WIDENED THE STREETS AND PUT THE SIDEWALKS IN THAT WERE NOT THERE BEFORE.
THAT IS PART OF AN OVERALL PLAN.
AND I THINK THAT BEFORE WE GO PUT INSIDE, WHICH WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE, AND I'M NOT TALKING GARDEN STREET IS I THINK A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SUBJECT, BUT LIKE WHAT THE MAYOR SAID THAT CEDAR STREET EXTENSION THERE, WE COULD GO AHEAD AND FIX THAT.
SO WE WILL GO TO THE CORNER, LIKE STOPS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET THERE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT CEDAR IN, UM, GEORGE STREET.
SO IT'S THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT AND MAYBE TRY TO FIX THAT WOULD NOT BE A PART OF A LARGER PLAN OR LARGER MAYBE VISION OR WHATEVER.
AS WE START TO REDEVELOP THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND FIND WHERE WE CAN PUT SIDEWALKS TODAY.
UM, ALDERMAN HARRIS SHOWED ME SOMETHING IN, IN THE PEMBROKE COMMUNITY WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE EVERY STREET, BUT IT MADE SENSE WHAT IT WOULD BE.
THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE WANT TO ADD INTO MAYBE PLAN GOING FORWARD THAT WOULD INCLUDE MAYBE THESE NEW ARP FUNDS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR, FOR GUARD STREET, 75,000, WE MIGHT BE ABLE AGAIN, TO WORK THAT MAKE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, GET THAT IN HERE, BUT WE DO NEED TO TALK ABOUT SIDEWALKS.
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE THE CITY'S GOING TO PROPOSE AS FAR AS THEIR BUDGET FOR SIDEWALKS.
AND WHAT DOES THAT COVER AND THEN TRY TO USE ADDITIONAL ARP FUNDS TO FILL IN THE REST WHERE WE DON'T HAVE FUNDS THAT MAKE GEORGE QUIT.
ALL OF OUR SIDEWALKS, ADA COMPLIANT, DO THEY HAVE THE WHEELCHAIR RAMPS AND EVERYTHING IS REQUIRED? I MEAN, PERSONALLY, BEFORE WE GO PUT IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEW SIDEWALKS, DON'T YOU THINK WE SHOULD FIX THE ONES THAT WE HAVE.
AND AS WE ADDRESS OR NEED TO REPAIR SECTIONS THAT ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE, WE BRING THOSE INTO COMPLIANCE AND THEN ANY NEW SIDEWALKS THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED TO MEET ADA.
SO, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF EXISTING SIDEWALKS OUT THERE THAT ARE WHEELCHAIR.
CAN'T GET DOWN OFF THE CURB RIGHT THERE.
DON'T, THERE'S NOT RAMPS AND STUFF.
I MEAN, I, I THINK WE SHOULD, I THINK WE SHOULD FIX WHAT WE HAVE.
I'M NOT AGAINST BUILDING SIDEWALLS, BUT MY GOD, I'M CERTAINLY FOR FIXING THE ONES THAT WE HAVE AND MAKING THEM COMPLIANT AND WHEELCHAIR FRIENDLY WORKERS HAD BEEN WORKING WITH WORKING TO GET ALL THE CURB RAMP SITUATIONS DONE WITH IT.
BUT ARE YOU JUST GOING OUT AND, AND DOING THAT OR ONLY WHEN YOU HAVE A REPAIR IN THAT? YEAH, NO, WE'VE DONE SOME THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT JUST REPAIR AREAS WHERE WE'VE NOTICED THAT WE DO.
AND CERTAINLY WE CAN SEND OUR CREWS TO DO THAT.
YOU HAVE 90% OF THEM COMPLETE A B SPECULATION IF I GAVE YOU A PERCENTAGE.
WELL, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE WERE TO MAKE SOME OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
I'M NOT AGAINST BUILDING SIDEWALKS.
I JUST THINK WE FIX WHAT WE HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW THE PHASE IN PERIOD, BUT I KNOW THAT CITY FOR SOME TIME HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE PROPER RAMP RAMPING OF SIDEWALKS.
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TO DO EVERYONE AT ONE SINGLE TIME WAS GOING TO BE COST PROHIBITIVE.SO I KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT IF YOU SPEND, IF THE BOARD GIVES DIRECTION TO GET AN ENGINEER DOWN AND GET THIS GARDEN STREET SIDEWALK DONE, AND IT SAID HE 5,000, THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH ADDING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO $25,000 MORE AND DO SOME RAMPANT, BUT THAT'S NOT DONE.
I MEAN, I TELL YOU ALL OVER THE CITY, THERE'S PLACES WHERE THE HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY OF THOSE SIDEWALKS HAD BEEN, UM, NOT TITLING.
DID YOU SAY, DID YOU EVER PERCENTAGE THAT ARE COMPLETED? YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF THE, ONE OF THE SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT NEW BURNETT, ADA COMPLIANT WITH RAMPING.
NOW, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ACCURATE ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE TIMETABLE IS OF ALL OF THE CITY SIDEWALKS BEING RAMPED PROPERLY FIVE OR 10 YEARS OR PUBLIC WORKS? WE GOT TO DO SOME BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW, UM, LINEAR ALL OF SEVEN WEEKS, UH, EDUCATION.
SO, UM, PARDON ME WHEN I STEP AWAY FROM THIS FIRE HOSE AND I'M DRINKING FROM UP, BUT I DO WANT TO TELL YOU THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE ELEMENTS.
WE HAVE ALL THE ELEMENTS TO REALLY MAKE AN IMPACT ON THE PEDESTRIAN, EVEN ON SOME CYCLING AREAS.
UM, MY EXPERIENCE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WE DO, I WOULDN'T BE STANDING HERE BEFORE YOU TELLING YOU THIS AND COMPETENCE THAT YOU HAVE THE ELEMENTS, UH, JUST GIVE US SOME TIME, UH, GIVE US THE DIRECTION THAT YOU ARE AND WE'RE HEARING YOUR STAFF IS VERY, UH, PEOPLE WILL LOOK, DON'T TAKE IN THIS DIRECTIONS.
SO IN REGARD TO THE SIDEWALK, I THINK WE'RE PRIMED TO TELL YOU, GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTION, GIVE YOU, UH, UH, ENOUGH SPECIFICITY THAT YOU CAN MAKE THIS.
WHAT IS YOUR ANALYSIS OR WHAT IS YOUR ORDERS FROM CITY HALL? AS FAR AS THE GARDEN STREET? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IN REGARDS TO THAT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING SAID, I THINK WE SHOULD, WE CAN GIVE SOME SORT OF DIRECTION FOR REGARDLESS STREET, BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH WHAT ODIN SAYING IN REGARDS TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH MY FELLOW, UM, ALL THE WOMEN THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY NOT PROBABLY GOING TO BE ANYTHING IN THERE FOR THAT AREA.
AND THIS IS ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.
WE'RE DEALING WITH HENDERSON PARK STANLEY.
WAIT, WHY CAN'T WE JUST GO AHEAD AND GIVE DIRECTIONS FOR THE GARDEN STREET, CHAPMAN SITUATION, $75,000 SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND ONTO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
IS THAT A MOTION? UM, GIVE STAFF AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A FULL PRICE ON CONNECTIVITY ON GUARD STREET, ALL THE WAY TO CHAPMAN COSTS THAT $75,000 DID NOT INCLUDE THAT ENTIRE AMOUNT.
SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE US THE RECORDS TO COME BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH BARBARA, IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO GET BIRTH? HE TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH.
THAT WOULD BE THE PROPER WAY TO HANDLE THAT TO TIE IN, TO TIE IN GARDEN STREET TO THE CHAPMAN STREET.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT.
I WANT TO SPEND ANYTHING ELSE ON THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT THIS TIME.
I WANT TO SAY TO PUBLIC WORKS AND TO YOU HUGHES, THANK YOU FOR INSTALLING THOSE TRASH CANS.
I SEE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN THE TRASH ON GARDEN STREET.
I DO WANT TO REQUEST FOR TWO MORE TRASH CANS AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR EXPENSIVE TRASH CANS OF $1,200.
IF MAYBE THERE MAY BE SOME IN SOME OTHER DEPARTMENT, SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE CITY.
THAT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED THAT CAN BE PUT IN.
I DO KNOW THAT MAIN STREET, THERE'S A LOT OF TRASH OVER ON THE MAIN STREET SECTION.
SO IF THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
UM, AND OH, UM, MR. HUGHES, UM, AND GEORGE, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE LATEST UPDATE ON THE LINCOLN STREET PROJECT FOR, AS THE TREE HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT AND THE STREET BEING PUT BACK TO A TWO LANE STREET SO THAT CARS CAN PASS AND NOT HAVE TO STOP FOR ONE ANOTHER TO PASS BY MR. CHILDS TO COME
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UP AND ADDRESS THAT.I BELIEVE ALL OF THE TREES WE'VE TAKEN ALL OF THE TREES DOWN THAT WORD IDENTIFIED ON THAT STREET THAT WE'RE ENCUMBERING THE SHOULDER OF THE RIGHT AWAY RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THAT, THAT SHOULD OPEN UP THE TRAVEL A LOT WHERE YOU NOT DON'T HAVE THE TREE FOR A BRIGHTER SIDE.
SO ARE, Y'ALL GONNA GO IN AND CLEAR OFFS, GOOD DOOR.
I DON'T KNOW A FOOT OR TWO OF DEBRIS.
I MEAN, DIRT AND GRASS ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET AND BRING THE STREET BACK.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THOUGHT THAT WITH AGAIN, CERTAINLY RUN IN THERE, NIP THAT STREET.
IF THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO TO SEE IF WE CAN EXPOSE TO MY, REGARDING THE EDGE AND FACING YES.
I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT EXACTLY.
FULL GET OVER MY KIDS AND MR. WILLIAMS. WELL, THE WAVES, WHAT DID Y'ALL DO YOU HAVE LOT ABOUT LITTER? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LAST MONTH, I MEAN, THERE ARE A BLACK BAGS.
I MEAN, I DON'T, I THINK HE WAS JUST CHUNKING IT AND IT'S JUST, I MEAN, I, I JUST NEVER SEEN SO MUCH TRASH AND I KNOW AGAIN, YOU GUYS PROBABLY GET, UM, THE TRANSFER TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO LANDFILL.
UM, SO WHERE DID YOU HAVE ISSUES AND HOW LONG AND HOW DID YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM? UM, MR. MAYOR, WE ACTUALLY NEVER REALLY HAD ANY MAJOR PROBLEMS LIKE THAT, BUT WE DID DO HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE.
SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU WOULD SET ASIDE A CERTAIN WEEKENDS WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, CITIZENS COME TOGETHER AND GO, UH, DO SOME OF THE CLEANUP, BUT WE NEVER HAD ANY MAJOR ISSUES.
I MEAN, THOSE TRANSFERRED DRUGS, UH, SOON GOING THROUGH HAVELOCK, WE'RE GOING 35 MILES AN HOUR, BUT WHEN THEY HIT 55 60, WHATEVER, DOING, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DYNAMICS, THE AERODYNAMICS OF THAT HOLDING SAIL, I MEAN, THAT STUFF IS JUST COMING OUT.
IT'S MORE ALONG THE MAJOR HIGHWAYS.
UM, SO YOU'RE, YOU GUYS PROBABLY DIDN'T DEAL WITH IT AS MUCH.
UM, I GUESS THE DIFFERENCE IS HOW LOCKERS SMALL AREA AND ANYONE WHO'S TRAVELED THROUGH HERE.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC LIGHTS, SO THE SPEED NEVER GOT TO A POINT WHERE IT WOULD CREATE THOSE SAME SIMILAR SITUATIONS.
WELL, I MEAN, I'VE TALKED TO REPRESENTATIVE STEVE TYSON.
UM, I'VE TALKED TO SOME HIGHWAY PATROL.
UM, I THINK I'VE HAD A LIGHT CONVERSATION WITH SHERIFF AND I PROBABLY HAVE TALKED WITH CHIEF GALLAGHER, BUT I HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW YOU GET THOSE TRANSFER TRUCKS TO QUIT.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT SHAMES ME TO SEE VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE PUTTING IT, PICKING ALL THIS TRASH UP.
AND IN TWO WEEKS TIME, THIS TRANSFER TRUCKS ARE COMING IN THROUGH OFTEN NOTHING.
UM, SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN FOR FINES, UH, QUICKLY, NOWADAYS.
I'M NOT TRYING TO GET INTO A TOTALITARIAN SYSTEM OF A POLICING, OUR CITY AND OUR, UM, SURROUNDING AREAS.
BUT, UM, TO ME, UNLESS, AND UNTIL THERE'S SOME ACCOUNTABILITY FROM A FINANCE STANDPOINT OR SOMETHING, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ABOUT A FIVE TIER APPROACH TO IMPROVING LITERACY NOW.
AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN BEING AS, YEAH, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IT.
AND THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS WHEN SOMEONE LITTERS YOU, UM, YOU TOURNAMENT AND YOU CALL BAIT AND THEY COME, THEY SAY TO THEM, HEY, YOU'RE LITTERING, CLEAN IT UP.
AND THEY MAY TAKE A DAY OR TWO, THEY CLEAN IT UP.
AND THEN TWO DAYS LATER THEY'RE LITTERING AGAIN.
SO WE EITHER, THE FINES ARE NOT STRINGENT ENOUGH OR JUST, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ENFORCEMENT, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S TRASH EVERY, AND AT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, BUT THE 70 TRASH HAS BEEN UNBELIEVABLE BY THE WAY, ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
I CAN NOT BELIEVE IT ALSO TOO.
UM, STREET SWEEPERS ARE STREET SWEEPERS BACK.
UM, WHERE YOU PLEASE, MR. COBELLI PLEASE.
UM, IT'S BURN AND MAIN STREET GOING DOWN MAIN STREET.
SHE'S ASKED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRASH AND THEY THINK IT'S PEOPLE COMING FROM EITHER THE FIELD OR, UM, GEORGE STREET RECREATION CENTER, OR WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? A SENIOR CENTER.
AND MAYBE EVEN RCS COME IN AND WALKING DOWN THE STREETS AND JUST THROWING THEIR TRASH ON THE GROUND.
SO NEED TO GET THE STREET SWEEPER OUT THERE FOR THEM PLEASE.
BUT YEAH, TRASH IS A REAL ISSUE AND I'M SURE I COULD HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE STEP UP AND SPEAK ABOUT THE TRASH.
UM, GOING BACK TO THE TRUCKS, A LOT OF THE TRUCKS HAD SCREENS ON THE BACK OF THEM.
THAT'S, WHAT'S NOT WORKING AND WE NEED TO GET THE NUMBER
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OF THE NAME OF THAT COMPANY AND CALL ON THAT.AND I THINK THAT WOULD BREAK THAT UP.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO HANDLE THAT.
IS THERE A FINDING IN PLACE FINDING IN PLACE NOW, MR. DAVIS, THAT, I MEAN, I THINK THE STATE HIGHWAY PATROL OR STATE REQUIRES THAT THOSE TRUCKS ARE COVERED.
MA'AM AND IF THEY'RE SOMETHING THEY CAN BE FINE, THERE'S FINE PLACE.
MA'AM WHAT'D YOU GET THE CATCH-UP TO DO THAT? YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.
DOES THIS BOARD ANY INTEREST IN GETTING OUR MANAGER WRITE A LETTER TO THE HIGHWAY PATROL OR TO THE TRANSFER COMPANY? UH, YOU KNOW, UH, TALK'S CHEAP, WHAT DIRECTION DOES THE BOARD WON'T TAKE ALL THAT? YOURS IS PROBABLY GOT MORE HARDER THAN ANYBODY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT TRASH COMPANY.
I MEAN, NO MORE DIRECTION FROM US, AND IT'S MORE THAN A LARGE CHANCE FOR CHOICE FOR COMING OUT OF THE CAR AT COUNTY.
UM, AND THAT'S WHERE I SEE MOST OF IT.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE A STIFFER PENALTIES OR SOMETHING FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS.
YOU KNOW, YOU MAY GET A LETTER AND THEY CLEAN UP, BUT IF YOU EVEN THOUGH THEY CLEAN UP, IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO MAKE CARTIA, WELL, YOU GOT TO HANDLE THE BETTER AND HAVE A REPEAT OFFENDER TICKETS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN.
WELL, THEY'RE HAPPY BECAUSE WE ALLOW THEM SO MANY DAYS TO CLEAN UP OR WHAT IS IT TWO WEEKS OR WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME? THE WEEDY LOTS.
BUT I THINK THE TRAFFIC RIGHT AWAY TO DIFFERENT THINGS, WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT EVEN TRASH ON PROPERTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES IS TRASHED AND LITTLE COMPLAINT IS MADE AND THEN THEY PICK IT UP AND THEN TWO DAYS LATER IT'S TRASHED AGAIN, ANOTHER COMPLAINT.
SO EACH COMPLAINT GETS 10 DAYS.
IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? YES, MA'AM YEAH.
UM, CHARLIE, I SENT YOU A EMAIL EARLIER.
WE'VE HAD SOME, UM, RESIDENTS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, LANDSCAPING AROUND UTILITY BOXES.
I SENT YOU A, I ACTUALLY SENT YOU AN EMAIL THAT YOU JUST, I JUST SENT IT TO YOU A FEW MINUTES AGO, BUT, UM, IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT EMAIL, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME BIG QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT CAN THEY, WHAT KIND OF LANDSCAPING CAN THEY PUT AROUND UTILITY BOXES? HOW CLOSE CAN THEY BE? AND, AND I THINK THE SAME WOULD APPLY TO, UH, HYDRANTS AND WE HAVE SOME PUBLISHED GUIDANCE ON THAT.
I SENT YOU THE LADY'S EMAIL, IF YOU WOULD JUST RESPOND TO HER.
I, UM, SOME ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, SHARON BRYANT, WE'RE TRY AND POLISH.
SHE WANTED ME TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THE PATHWAY TO FREEDOM, THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD, SUPPOSEDLY FROM MAY 21ST, UM, AT 7:00 AM TO 5:00 PM, $5.
YOU CAN GET YOUR TICKETS AT DR.
PALACE, UM, IN HONOR OF INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE MADE HISTORY AND IT'S AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SIT HERE AND SERVE ON THIS FOR WHAT YOU, UM, WOMEN AND DO THE WORK THAT WE DO.
UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I TAKE TIME TO TELL EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE THAT IS WATCHING, LISTENING TO HEAR.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO TO MAKE OUR CITY THE WAY THAT IT IS.
UM, ALSO I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE MY DAUGHTER TO, UM, UH, TOUR THE FARMING, UH, ON, UH, WHAT IS IT, YOU KNOW, ON NEW CITY? UM, CAUSE SHE WANTS TO BE A FIREFIGHTER WHEN SHE GROWS UP.
AND, UM, THAT IS A THANKLESS JOB SOMETIMES.
AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU CHIEF FOR ALLOWING THAT, UM, SHE WILL BE THERE ON SATURDAY TO SUPPORT CAUSE SHE KNOWS I'M A BOOTS SUPPORTER, BUT, UM, WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, I, I HAD ASKED BOBBY, I'M NOT SURE, BUT IF IT IS NOT, WE HAVE NOT PASSING THE BUDGET, BUT I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF MAKING SURE THAT WE GET REPLACEMENTS, UM, FOR THE NECESSITIES THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY THE, UM, VACS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO GET THESE THINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUTTING THAT INTO THE BUDGET AND WE SUPPORT THAT AS A BOARD BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UM, THE SAFETY OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND WHAT THEY DO.
UM, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THE BUYER IS GOING TO BE RELEASED FOR YOUR SEBS SORRY.
UM, I DID HAVE ONE MORE THING, MR. HUGHES.
I KNOW WE MENTIONED IT AT THE, UH, OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP HELP YOU PUT
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IT IN THE, YOUR BUDGET FOR THE SHELTERS AT THE CEMETERY.UM, I WAS THERE THIS WEEK, THIS WEEK FOR A FAMILY FUNERAL AND I WAS EMBARRASSED AT THE SHELTER.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME FORWARD? THE NEWER BOARD OF ALL MEN AT THIS TIME MOTION AND A SECOND TO THE SAYS, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
NEVERMIND WHAT WE SAID ALL IN FAVOR, THE MOTION.
SAY AYE, SAYING WE ARE A GERMAN.