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[1. Welcome.]
SO I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TONIGHT FOR OUR STANLEY MONT RECREATION CENTER ADVISORY COMMUNITY.FIRST OF ALL, I JUST, EVERYBODY WHO KNOWS ME, I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING.
THERE'S NO SPECIAL PROJECTS COORDINATOR.
SO FROM NOW ON, SHE'LL BE JOINED.
UM, SO AT THIS TIME, IF WE CAN, UM, HAVE PRAYER, WON'T BE A PRAYER TONIGHT, BUT A SPRING, THOSE VERSES AND ALL WARRANTS, FATHER GOD, ONCE AGAIN, IT IS FEW OF US GATHERED TOGETHER AT SOMEONES.
WE KNOW HOW TO PROFIT FATHER GOD, AS WE GET TOGETHER TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE STUNNING RIGHT RICK CENTER.
BUT LOVE PEACE, HARMONY PROBIO FROG, THEY'D KNOW HER HARM OR DANGER COME UP AMONGST ANYONE SAYS HERE ON THE PHONE OR LOOKING AT US OVER THE NECK, FATHER, GOD BLESSING HEALERS IN THE MIGHTY MIGHTY WAY.
THESE INAUGURAL BUSES, WE ASKED THEIR MASSES IN THE MARBLES NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
THIS TIME WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, NICE STATE AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT SPANS UM, AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO ROLL.
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME ON THE PHONE? ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ROLL AT THIS TIME.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? CURTIS STORE JOINS WOUNDS.
THANK YOU, MS. BARBARA, MS. HARRIS, NOT.
OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
[5. Approve Minutes.]
THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 19TH, I BELIEVE I SENT THOSE OUT.HEY, REASON, ONE BEING A WHILE, BUT Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM AND IF YOU WOULD, THERE'S NO DISCREPANCIES AND WE GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
AND MR. BROWN AND MR. LEANNA MORGAN ON THE PHONE AND MS. BARRA.
[6. Update on Stanley White Recreation Center and Henderson Park.]
FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY SAW THE WORD LAST WEEK.UM, BUT THE SEATING MANAGER, UM, PROPOSED THE DESIGNS THAT WERE SUBMITTED FROM SAFETY AND IO OR SLEEPY OR, UM, FOR THE DESIGN OF THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION SENIOR,
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THERE WAS ONE DECIDE, WHICH WAS THE INITIAL ONE THAT HAD BEEN THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR PUBLIC INPUT.AND, UM, THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE THEY PROPOSED, WHICH WAS $11.9 MILLION CENTER.
AND THEN THE SECOND DESIGN, WHICH THEY SUBMITTED SINCE THEY WEREN'T GOOD ON THAT $8 MILLION BUDGET TO STAY WITHIN.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO JUST SUBMIT A DESIGN THAT WENT OVER THAT.
SO THEY ALSO PROVIDED A SECOND DESIGN, WHICH WAS 7.8.
UM, WELL WE NEVER SEEN THAT DESIGN, RIGHT? THE ONLY IF WE ONLY SEEN THE FIRST DESIGN, WE SEEN IT, THE 36,000 SQUARE FOOT, TWO STORY BUILDING WHERE THE INDOORS AND OR WALKING TRACK TWO GYMS, THAT'S THE ONLY DESIGN THIS BOARD HAS EVER SEEN.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ELSE.
SO WHERE THE DIRECTION THE BOARD GAVE BASED ON THE ONES THAT THEY WERE PROVIDED.
SO WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD? IF THE ALDERMAN GONNA DECIDE WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE, WHY ARE WE, WHY, WHY AM I WASTING MY TIME? IF I DON'T HAVE ANY INPUT? WELL, THE GIVE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS AS YOU BREAK HER IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND APPARENTLY THAT ONCE AGAIN, IT'S FALLING ON DEAF EARS.
IT'S AMAZING TO ME HOW MARTIN MARIETTA, WHICH CAME IN AND EXISTENCE AFTER STANLEY WIFE IS IN ITS SECOND PHASE AND ABOUT TO BE COMPLETED.
AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN BROKEN GROUND ON STANLEY WHITE.
AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT A CONCEPT WE HAD GIVEN THEM THE CONCEPTIONAL DESIGN, EVERYTHING WAS SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BY THIS BOARD.
AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S OUT THE WINDOW, LIKE WHERE IF I'M WASTING MY TIME, LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE.
WELL, THAT DESIGN THAT THE BOARD TOLD THEM TO GO AHEAD.
WE HAVE USED THE ONE THAT WAS, BUT THAT DESIGN WAS NEVER SUBMITTED TO US FOR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DESIGN LOOKS LIKE.
WILL WE BE ABLE TO SEE IT TONIGHT? OR WHAT WOULD MAKE IT A
THE FIRST IS, IS THE ONE THAT THEY SUBMITTED, THAT EVERYBODY SAW, WHICH THEY DID A PRESENTATION WITH THE TWO GM'S TO WALK AND TRACK THE MULTIPLE MAINTENANCE SPACES.
THE SECOND DESIGN, UM, I CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE TO FOR ON THAT.
I JUST NOT FIRED WITH THAT DISCUSSION WAS NOT SATISFACTORY TO ME.
WE WENT AND I REALIZED THINGS ARE GOING UP.
THE ROAD TURNED AROUND AND TALKING ABOUT TAKING SOMETHING FOR THEIR, HOW ABOUT THEY CLAIMED THAT THE BILL, THE SENATE BACK BILL, THE CENTER DAY WILL COST THREE REMAINS.
CAN YOU STOP MORE THAN IT'S SUPPOSED TO COST? YES.
I MAY HAVE DRAWN IT AS ONE INVEST IN.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A WAY TO FOLLOW THE LONG TIME FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS.
AND WHEN IT WAS CHEAP, WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE, BUT WE DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T DO IT.
SO NOW YOU COME BACK AND EVEN THOUGH WE TALK ABOUT BUILDING THE, YOU DON'T LET THAT, HOW NO MATTER WHERE 1% OF THE PEOPLE GOING TO USE THAT ALPHABET, THE REST OF THAT, THAT MONEY COULD BE CONFIGURED TO THE, WHAT ARE THE BOARD APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 11.9 MILLION.
BUT IF IT DOES NOT, WHAT YOU JUST SAID, YOU SAID THAT THEY WENT WITH THE SECOND DESIGN, WHICH WAS 7.9 MILLION.
NO, I SAID THEY SAW BOTH DESIGNS AND THEY CHOSE TO GO WITH THE 11.9.
CAUSE YOU TOLD US ABOUT THE SECOND DESIGN, WHICH IS 7.9 MILLION.
AND YOU SAID, THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD APPROVED.
THE $11 MILLION DESIGN IS A DESIGN THAT WE SEEN, WHICH IS THAT 30 SOME POUNDS PER SQUARE FOOT.
THE TWO GYMS, THE WALKING TRACK AND ALL OF THAT.
WELL, I'M SORRY YOU MISUNDERSTOOD ME.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT TO SAY.
I MEANT THE SIDE THAT THEY WENT WITH.
THE FIRST ONE, THEY DID NOT GO WITH THE SECOND ONE.
THE FARM PROVIDED A SECOND ONE BECAUSE
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THEY WERE GIVEN AN $8 MILLION BUDGET TO PROVIDE A DESIGN OFF OF INCENSE.WE CALL IT BROWSE AND THE REGIONAL PLAN DID NOT STAY UNDER 8 MILLION.
THEY PROVIDED A SECOND DESIGN IN CASE THE BOARD DID NOT WANT TO GO WITH THE 11.9 MILLION, BUT THE BOARD GAVE DIRECTION TO GO WITH THE 11.9 MILLION AT THE LAST LATE THAT SCO CAME BACK, THERE IS A RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE SOME INPUT AS IT'S NOT FAIR.
DID YOU WANT TO PROVIDE INPUT ON IF THEY WENT WITH DILEMMA 0.9 MILLION?
I WAS THE PRESIDENT OF IT WHEN HE DID ALL THIS OTHER STUFF RIGHT HERE, WE DID WHAT WE HAD TO DO WITH
AND THEY START DOING THINGS ON THEIR OWN.
THEY STOPPED GIVING THE BUSINESS ON ONLY AT HOME, WHICH IS A DIRECT RELATION ADVISORY BOARD, YOU KNOW, SO THAT DOESN'T HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
IT'S AT THE SAME POINT, IF YOU, IF YOU DOING THINGS WRONG AND YOU DID IT WRONG, THEN CAN YOU TURN AROUND? AND I I'M OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW.
I SEE YOU DIDN'T SEE THE SAME THING HAPPENING AGAIN.
THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS THE CORRECT PLACE TO DISCUSS.
SO I'M APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I THOUGHT I MISUNDERSTOOD BECAUSE I HEARD THE SAME.
BUT YOU SAYING, YOU SAID, WHAT WERE THEY WAS, UH, GOING AGAINST WHAT THEY WENT AGAINST, BUT YOU CAME BACK AND RE-EXPLAIN YOURSELF, WHAT YOU MEANT, BUT YOUR EXACT WORDS WAS WHAT HE WAS SAYING.
CAUSE I SIT BACK AND LISTEN, CLARIFY.
GET UP, GET A, GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING NUMBER.
IF IT'S A MISUNDERSTANDING, WE NEED TO GET IT RIGHT.
YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD YOU.
SO THE 11TH, $11 MILLION PROJECT IS THE TWO GYMS WALKING TRACK AND A MEETING SPECS.
THAT'S THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT THE BOARD VOTED TO MOVE OR THEY DIDN'T VOTE.
BUT I GAVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER TO, UM, PURSUE THAT.
SO YOU SAYING THAT THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO CAUSE MORE THAN THEY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY GOING TO KICK IN THERE, THE MONDAY THEY'RE GONE, THAT'S THEIR POINT IN YOU? AND IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE MAINTENANCE FROM LAST WEEK, I DISCUSSED IT.
I MEAN, IT'S ONLINE WHERE YOU CAN VIEW WITH, I THOUGHT THE BUILDING, THAT BUILDING, IF IT HAD EXCEEDED WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO KICK IN.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY BOTH THOUGHT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT STEROID BUILDING TALKING ABOUT, WELL I'LL WILL, IF I CAN GET THAT POIGNANT AVAILABLE TO SEEM TO YOU GUYS, THE 11.9 MILLION PLAN, THAT'S THE LARGER TWO JAMS. UM, I KNOW IT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY, BUT YOU HADN'T SEEN IT.
SO, UM, CPO IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT DESIGN AND UM, THE BIA FOUR WILL OCCUR LATER THIS YEAR.
WE'RE STILL IN THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE AND THEN CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGAN AND IT'LL BE BASED ON WHAT THEIR TIMELINE IS.
SO C, C, L P CPL HAS DESIGNED IT.
THE DESIGN HAS BEEN APPROVED, BUT THERE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD SOMEBODY ELSE'S GOING TO BUILD IN THAT CONTRACT.
YEAH, IT HASN'T GOTTEN OUT YET.
SO WHAT AM I NOT MISTAKEN? AND I, NO STOCK MOVED THE HOUSE, THE BIG HOUSE, BIG HOUSE TO HOUSE.
BUT ALL THIS OTHER STUFF HAS TO TAKE PLACE, YOU KNOW, TO GET US TO THE POINT OF BREAKING GROUND, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S TIME FOR THE HOUSE TO BE RELOCATED.
I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN OR THEY GOING TO SELL IT OR WHAT NEW SELLER THEY HAVE THIS KNOW THE PLANS
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WAS TO CELEBRATE SOMEBODY, BUT IT WAS THE MOVE IN OUR HOUSE.I SEE THE PORTS HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF OF HER.
I SEE THEY MOVED THE OTHER HOUSE.
OR WHILE YOU BANK STREET, I DO NOT HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE STATUS OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO CHOOSE TO DO WITH THAT.
UM, THE SECOND THING IS, UM, THE CHANGE IN SCOPE OF WORK THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO FEMA FOR HENDERSON PARK.
UM, THEY HAVE PUT UP, PUT OUT THE PUBLIC NOTICE FOR 30 DAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S GETTING BY WHERE THE, UM, CNR WAS LIKE, HEY, DID I HAVE A IT'S BEING POSTED? UM, THE 30 DAY NOTICE, UM, THE CHANGE IN SCOPE OF WORK.
SO AT THE END OF THE 30 DAYS, UM, THEMA WILLIS SAY US IF DIVERSITY, MEANING COMMENTS THOUGH, A CSI.
AND AT THAT POINT, WE'LL JUST BE WAITING ON A RESPONSE FROM THE, UM, I'LL WANT, THEY DECIDE ABOUT THE CHANGES, GO TO WORK IN THE RESTAURANT FACILITIES.
UM, BUT THE CHALLENGE SCOPE OF WORK IS GOING TO INCLUDE ADDITIONS FOR, UM, LIGHTING, BATTLEFIELD LIGHTING, BLEACHERS, UM, THE ADDITION OF BLACK TOP GAMES, UM, EXTENDING THE EXISTING PLAYGROUND, UM, BUILDING IN THE EIGHT 30 BY 65 SHAREHOLDER THAT WILL DOUBLE AS A FARMER'S MARKET IMPROVE AND GRAB A PARK AND, AND INSTALLING A NEW IN NEW FITNESS EQUIPMENT.
SO THOSE ARE THE PLANS AND WE HAVE, UM, YOU HAVE THE DESIGNS THAT WE PRESENTED.
UM, NO, IT'S, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE.
THE LAST I SEE THEY'VE GOT, UH, THE GOOSENECK PULLS UP FOR THEIR BASKETBALL COURT.
WE'RE WAITING FOR THOSE SURFACES FOR, THAT'S WHY I ASKED MY NEXT QUESTION.
THE SURFACE HAS BEEN ORDERED OR WAY TO RECEIVE IT, AND THEN THAT'LL BE THE NEXT THING TO GO DOWN.
SO I CALLED HIM AND TALKED TO SOMEBODY IN AND RICK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE, UH, THE COMMITTED WERE COMING TO ME AND CALLED ME AND ASKED ME WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO I DID FIND OUT THAT, UH, IT CAN ONLY BE TWO GOALS AND IT'S GOING TO BE A HIGH SCHOOL REGULATE LADY, THE SIZE OF THE COURT.
SO, UM, WHEN I WAS, WAS WONDERING, OH, WHAT I NEED TO TALK TO ABOUT TRYING TO GET TWO MORE GOALS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, EVEN, EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BE A REGULATED SIZE, IT'S STILL ENOUGH ROOM WITH THE OFFICES AND ALL THE ROOMS WHERE TO PUT A NUMBER OF ANOTHER TWO GOALS UP, YOU KNOW, FOR A SMALLER COURT.
CAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA LOOK NICE, BUT IT'S GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE STANDING ONE TO PLAY OUT TOWARDS THE STREET.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER SMALL COURT FULL COURT THERE, THAT'LL KINDA TAKE THAT OUT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE? YEAH.
NEAR, NEAR WHERE THE PARKING LOT WAS ARE OVER ON THIS SIDE.
YOU SEE WHERE YOU SEE IT IS IN BLACK, RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE THE, UM, PINE AND FLOOR PLAY AREAS.
SO THINGS LIKE FOUR SQUARE, A HOPSCOTCH, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE GOING TO GO OVER HERE FOR YOUNGER CHILDREN AND UM, OTHER PEOPLE WHO LIKE PLAY GAMES LIKE THAT TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN THAT AREA.
SO IN THE REAR WHERE IT LOOKS WHITE, WHERE THE PICNIC CHAPTER COMES INTO, UH, THAT, THAT USED TO BE THE FITNESS ROOM WHERE HE DID A GAME ROOM, GRAB A PARKING LOT.
NO, THAT'S NOT THE GRAVEL PARKING LOT IS THE GRAVEL.
CAUSE THE SPACE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FITNESS EQUIPMENT IS RIGHT HERE, WHERE TO WATT IN BETWEEN.
SO THIS, THIS, THIS BLOCK END AREA, THE BLACK AREA RUNS ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE BUILDING FROM THE FRONT TO THE END.
I NOTICED THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING UP HERE AS FAR AS BATHROOMS OR WHEN WOULD IT HAPPEN? WELL, THAT'S PART OF THE CHANGE IN SCOPE ONCE GIVES US, YOU KNOW, THEIR DECISION TO CHANGE YOUR SCOPE.
THAT WILL DETERMINE HOW WE PROCEED WITH DURATION TERMS,
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BUT THEY'RE REAL BE RAISED OR ADDED.UM, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE AND HOW MUCH WORK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO FOR THEM TO BE THERE BECAUSE OF W WHAT'S GOING RIGHT HERE NEXT TO THE COURT.
WILL YOU BE ABLE TO FORWARD THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE SHOWING THEM TO US? SO YEAH.
DID YOU SEND THAT OUT TO YOU, ANDREW? YOU SENT IT OUT VIA EMAIL SHOULD BE IN YOUR EMAIL ATTACHMENTS.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO APPEAR IN TO THE RIGHT OF IT.
HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW BIG THAT AREA IS?
THAT'S WHERE THE, UM, SHOWERS IN THE BATHROOM OFF THE GMR. I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY ON THIS DESIGN, THERE'S NOT TWO GIRLS THERE.
HEY, STOP COULD GO EXIT TO GO.
THERE WAS SMALL ARMY IS, THERE'LL BE A SMALLER RUN COURT.
IT WON'T BE AS, AS LARGE AS THE BIG COURTS, WOULD YOU STILL BE ABLE TO PLAY? WELL, THIS THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
IF IT'S DONE IN THIS BLOCKCHAIN AREA THAT YOU COULD, WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT GOING AT THE, WITH A NEW PORTION WAS ADDED ON WITH EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS, UH, THE, THE LACK OF ROOMS AND ALL THAT.
IF YOU PUT THE SHUFFLEBOARD BOARD HERE AND THE OTHER THINGS YOU COULD USE THAT ALL THE LAWS AREA FOR ANOTHER PORT.
CAUSE THEY THEY'LL PROBABLY USE THE COURT A LITTLE MORE THAN THE SHUFFLEBOARD.
CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO PROBABLY BE TAUGHT BECAUSE IT'S A NICE GAME, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU LEARN.
UM, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST SOMEBODY, SHUFFLEBOARD IS GOING TO BE LIKE TWO TAG TOE, FOUR SQUARE HOPS, GOT SOME OF THOSE GAMES THAT WE ALL PLAYED AS KIDS.
UM, AND THEN THE FITNESS COURSE WILL BE UPDATED.
THE ONE THAT'S DOWN HERE IS GOING TO BE UPDATED WITH NEW EQUIPMENT.
UM, AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND ENTITIES ARE GOING TO BE ADDED TO WHAT'S ALREADY HERE.
NOW THERE WAS A WALKING TRACK OUT HERE.
IS THAT NOT GOING TO BE ANYMORE? NO.
THAT'S CURRENTLY OUT THERE WILL REMAIN.
THESE ARE JUST THE AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO GET ITEMS. I ADDED.
I LIKE THOSE OLD, THE BASKETBALL COURTS DOWN HERE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT.
WOULD THEY BE TAKEN UP OR WHAT? NOT AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, ESPECIALLY IN THE FALL ONE, THEY IT'S GOT A SECOND.
AND YOU KNOW, THESE AREAS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN A LOT WITH DEPAUL, FOOD AREAS AND STUFF BECAUSE THEY ARE SO LOW.
SO AS WE DEVELOP, UM, WHATEVER INFORMATION WE GET BACK FROM FLEEING, THAT'LL HELP DETERMINE, WELL, PUT MY RECOMMENDATION IN RIGHT NOW.
IF, IF IT'S REPAIRED OR RAISED OR WHATEVER, I'D RATHER SEE HIM STAY.
I MEAN, YOU NEED IT BECAUSE AT ANY GIVEN SUMMER OR ANYTIME, UH, WHEN THE WEATHER IS GOOD, YOU HAVE A LOT OF KIDS, A LOT OF DOGS COME OUT IN DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES OUT THERE.
SO THAT'LL GIVE THEM MORE PLAN FOR ALL OF THEM.
UM, I AGREE THAT THAT'S ONE THING, YOU KNOW, UH, SUMMER TWO MINUTES TO HIM, THE BASKETBALL TOLD HIM, I SAW HIM OUTSIDE OUT THERE DOING THIS SUMMER.
UH, BUT AS I SAID, AS IT AS A COURSE, THAT WORRIES, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, MOST OF US KNOW THAT WHEN THE TRASH BALANCE BEEN SINKING ONE END OF IT, WHEN IT RAINS, IT'S ABOUT HALF OF THE IS CAUGHT THAT FIRST ONE IS USABLE BUTTON AND THE RESURFACE AND QUITE SMALL ON RESEARCH, WHATEVER DEVIL'S IS, I CHECKED IT OUT AND I TALKED TO ONE OF THE, UM, I WANTED TO, UM, TALK AND READ GUY, BUT IT'S, IT'S ABOUT ENGINEERING.
ONCE YOU GET THAT BACK AREA ENGINEERED AND LEVELED AND WHATEVER, CAUSE THAT IT'S POOR DRAINAGE.
BECAUSE EVEN IF WANT TO SIT DOWN ON THAT LORD AND I PLAYED ON IT MYSELF, IF IT'S, IT IS, IT IS POOR DRAINAGE THERE.
CAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE A PIPE FALL AT A TWO INCH PIPE, A PLASTIC PIPE RUNNING
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THROUGH THERE AND IT JUST GOT FILLED WITH DIRT AND IT NEVER CLEANED, UH, THAT RAN UNDER ON THE WALKING TRAIL.SO BETTER DRAINAGE PROBABLY ME ELEVATED ACTUALLY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF EXPERTISE THAT'S OUT THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING TOWARDS.
SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT HIS PLAN? UH, YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT THE, UH, YOURSELF IN ORDER FOR THE COURT.
WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT? BEFORE THE OF MY NECK? WHAT TYPE OF, I KNOW IT MIGHT NOT BE OUT TO BE TOO.
SO WHAT TYPE OF BAG WAS OR WHATEVER WAS ON THOSE SNAKES? WOULD IT BE THE SQUARE ONE OTHER LITTLE, A TO SQUARE.
YOU GO TO EVERY OTHER CITY THAT I'VE BEEN TO.
IT'S GOING TO BE READ TO LISA AND I WILL TELL YOU THE SQUARE BACK OUT THERE BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT WE COULD DO DURING THAT TIME DURING THE SUMMER, YOU KNOW, THEY AT LEAST HAVE SOME THAT THEY GO OUT THERE AND PLAY.
UM, I RIDE THROUGH THE POT EVERY DAY, UM, ALONG SCHOOL MOVEMENT.
UM, DO THEY HAVE WHAT KIND OF COVERING THEY'RE GOING TO PUT ON THE CON CONCRETE? I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT YET.
I THINK IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO A RUBBERIZED, SOME OF THIS, THE PACE TYPE PAINT AND STUFF THAT REALLY IS IF THEY COULD STAND THE WEAR AND TEAR, THAT'D BE OUT THERE.
I'VE SEEN THEM OTHER PLACES AND THE COLORS THAT THEY CAN PAINT AND IT WOULD REALLY LOOK GOOD THE WAY THEY PAINTED IT AND DESIGN.
IT COULD REALLY LOOK GOOD OUT THERE.
SO I HAD TO READ THINGS ON HERE WOULD BE WHERE TO LOT AND WOULD GO, IF YOU CAN SAY A SMALL RED CIRCLES, APPLEBEE COURT LOT, AND THEN THE BLEACHERS IN BETWEEN.
UM, SO HAVE THEY CONSIDERED, UH, ADDITIONAL PARKING, UM, THAT WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON THE AREA WHERE THE PICNIC SHELTER, WHERE THE GRAVEL PARKING IS WHATEVER'S LEFT, THAT THE SHELTER DOES NOT TAKE A
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT YOU SAID MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY LOW, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE SOMETHING TAKEN AWAY AND NOTHING PUT BACK.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A NEW 30 BY 65, WHY NOT DO ANOTHER, UH, YOU HAVE IT OUT OF THE LAWS AND PRE YOU HAVE HAVE IT OUT UNTIL THAT IS THE SAME SIZE AS THE ONE THAT LOST SOME GRIEF, THAT 30 BUCKS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIZE IT IS, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT'S LARGER THAN WHAT THOSE TWO ARE.
SO I'M SAYING IF YOU COULD PUT A LONG WITH THE NEW ONE THAT THEY, THAT THE NEWEST ONE THEY HAVE OUT THERE THEY'RE CELEBRATED, UH, WITH THIS, THIS 30 BY 65 PICNIC SHELTER MADE TO TAKE THE OTHER OLD ONES OUT OF THE WAY.
CAUSE THEY REALLY NOT USABLE, YOU KNOW, AT CERTAIN TIMES.
WHEREAS THE SHELTER AT CARSON CREEK BIRD, YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH, THEY'RE BACKED UP BY THE BATHROOM ONE.
OH, RIGHT THERE BY THE BATHROOM, THE ENTIRE FIELD, THEY BACK FILLED IT WITH TIRES.
UH, IF YOU DID DOWN THERE ABOUT TWO OR THREE FEET, HERE'S SOME TIRE, ALL THAT, UH, UNDER THE TIRES AND PUT ON THE SQUARE, THE SAME THING AS STANDING WAVING WITH THE TRASH PILE, IT TOOK THEM A WHILE TO GET THE GROUND AND THE WAY THEY BUILT THE FOOTBALL FIELD, BECAUSE IT WAS AT THE TIME, NO ROCK, SKIP COMING UP, OUT THE GROUND AND IT FINALLY GOT IT SETTLED AND THAT LARRY LOOKS NICE.
AND IF YOU FIND MOSTLY THE PUBLIC NOTICED AT FEMA, UM, PROVIDED, I CAN PASS IT AROUND AFTER DOC AND YOU GUYS CAN HAVE IT OR I CAN SEND
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YOU A COPY OF, DO YOU HAVE A WAY OF SENDING IT THROUGH EMAIL? I'D RATHER DO THAT.IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WILL DO THAT.
UM, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS ON THIS COMMITTEE, I THANK YOU, MR. PANDER.
I'M MORE INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT THAT DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE TRAIL.
UM, SO I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS TWO WEEKS AGO.
UM, I HADN'T ANOTHER ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES HAD WORKED ON WITH ACU, A GROUP ART STUDENTS TO DO A HISTORY TRAIL, WHICH, UH, PROVIDED ME INFORMATION ABOUT STANLEY WHY, AND HE IS A COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THERE'S A WHOLE PACKET HERE THAT THIS GROUP DID, UM, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT.
I, I WISH THAT WE HAD KNOWN MORE ABOUT IT, SO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY COULD HAVE PARTICIPATED IN.
SO LAST MINUTE TODAY THEY CALLED FUEL OF ME, CHARLES, I THINK TARA'S YEAH.
I JUST WANTED YOU GUYS TO SAY, UM, THERE POSSIBLY WOULD BE AS FOR SOME GRANT FUNDING TO HELP FACILITATE THIS, UM, THAT HAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN IT.
AND SOME OF THE ISLANDS THEY'RE PROPOSING THE ONLY ISSUE WITH THIS IS SOME OF THE STUFF THEY PROPOSED DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
THE DESIGN PLAN THAT HAD BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE NEW CENTER, WHICH WAS THE KNOW BETRAYAL BETWEEN THE NEW CENTER AND THE OLD, UM, LOCATION.
AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT'S BEEN COMING TO ME FROM THE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED AT LOCATION OF THE CENTER ON, ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
UM, THEY, THEY, WHAT THEY'RE THINKING IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PUT ON BROAD STREET AND THEY DON'T WANT IT ON BROAD STREET.
WELL, I BELIEVE THE, UM, THE ENTRANCE, THERE'S AN ENTRANCE FROM FIRST AVENUE THIRD AFTER THE I'M SORRY, THIRD AVENUE.
WELL, I'M SAYING THAT THE BUILDING I'M SWITCHING FROM THE FALL, BUT THE BUILD IS GOING TO HAVE AN ENTRANCE FROM THIRD ISLAND.
I REMEMBER WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DYNAMIC THAT WE SAID WE DIDN'T WANT ANY OF THE KIDS TRYING TO CROSS THE STREET TO TRY TO GET INTO THE CENTER OR RUNNING STRAIGHT OUT OF THE CENTER AND THE TRAFFIC THAT THE DOOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON.
BIRD MUSTERS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THIRD AVENUE.
BUT THEY STILL DON'T WANT, THEY STILL DON'T WANT BROAD, BROAD, THIRD.
THEY STILL DON'T WANT IT BROUGHT IN THIRD.
THEY DON'T WANT IT RIGHT ON THAT CORNER.
IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE.
CAUSE THE PARKING LOT IS ACTUALLY OKAY.
SO THE CNR WILL ACTUALLY BE POSITIONED FURTHER BACK ON THE PROPERTY.
AND ANOTHER THING AT, AT ANYBODY, CAUSE I, UH, UM, ON THE INDIVIDUALS CAME TO ME AND SAID, EVERYBODY'S COMING TO HER ABOUT A POOL.
AND THEN, UH, THEY SAID THEY CALLED, UH, THE CITY MANAGER AND HE SAID, NOBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, ASKED FOR POOL.
AND UH, WHAT, UH, I THINK THEY ASKED FOSTER AND FOSTER SAID THAT NO ONE FROM THE COMMUNITY HAS SUGGESTED THAT.
AND I KNOW ADAM MYSELF MANY, A TIMES THEY PROMISE, PROMISE, PROMISE, AND NEVER, NEVER GOT ANYTHING DONE.
WELL, I KNOW THE PROBLEM WAS WINDOW TRYING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE WHITE AREA WAS THE GROUND.
THAT'S WHY THE SPRAY BALL UP HERE TO GEORGIA BECAUSE, UH, THE GROUND WAS UNSTABLE.
AND UH, WHEN THE DAD NEEDED TEST DRILL, LIKE TOWARDS THE EQUIPMENT UP THERE AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH, THE JOY IS FREE INSTEAD OF BEING RIGHT THERE, STANDING WHITE.
I WAS WANTING TO BE ALL DAY WAS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OUT.
IT WASN'T GRINDING, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S AN ARGUMENT THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH.
I'VE BEEN DOING CONSTRUCTION ALL MY LIFE DOWN.
SHAREPOINT, SHAREPOINT USED TO HAVE A TRANSPILE
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THE SAME WAY.YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? UH, BUT ANY, ANYTHING COULD BE FIXED? WELL, I MEAN, IT, IT, IT HAPPENED AT W WHEREAS NEWER I'VE S I SAW THEM BIG TOWN TRUCKS GO DOWN IN THE GROUND WHERE YOU COULDN'T EVEN SEE THEM.
THEY ALL WOULD HAVE BASEBALL FIELD.
IT, THEY ALL, ALL OF IT, ALL OF THAT.
SO, I MEAN, WHY YOU CAN'T DO IT BOTH BOATS IN THIS APARTMENT BELONG TO THE CITY.
IF YOU COULD DO FOR ONE WAY YOU CAN'T DO FOR THE OTHER, JUST LIKE MR. WHITE, UH, WITH THE DESIGNER THEY DESIGN, WHEREAS NEW BARN, A DIFFERENT WAY FROM STAYING AWAY, THEN THEY GOT A COMMITTEE TOGETHER AND STOP IT.
AND BOTH OF THEM ENDED UP BEING BUILT THE SAME.
SO I'M SAYING THE SAME ENTITY THAT YOU PUT INTO ONE PUT INTO THE ELBOW, BECAUSE BOTH OF THE BABIES BELONG TO THE CITY, NOT THE COMMITTED, THEY BELONG TO THE CITY.
SO WHAT THE CITY CAN'T DEVELOP THE SAME WAY THEY DID WITH NEWBORNS AS STANDARD.
WHY I DON'T CARE WHAT THE COST IS, THEY DIDN'T CARE WHAT THE COST WAS THERE.
SO, I MEAN, LET'S, LET'S BE REAL ABOUT WHEN THIS NEW STANDARD IS BILL IS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE UPDATED AND NASR, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY MODERN.
AND, UM, I MAY ASK, LIKE, IT'S PRETTY AWESOME.
AS FAR AS THE DESIGN, THEY SET DESIGN THEN, BUT, UH, THE MINUTES IS THAT GOING TO BUILD ON, WOULD THAT BE STEEL THAT WE PUT IN AND STUFF THAT WE HAVE SPEED WILL BE LIKE THE FULL KITCHEN AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THAT YES.
THE DATA ORIGINAL DESIGN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, I STARTED WORKING ON DESIGN.
I'M SURE THEY HAVEN'T SEEN, THEY HAVEN'T GOT TO EVERY DETAIL ON THE INSIDE.
SO MY QUESTION IS, EVEN THOUGH THEY, THEY GO INTO THE DESIGN, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT THE KIDS HAVE BEEN OUT OF THAT REC CENTER SINCE THE STORM I SOLD YEARS AGO.
AND BY HOW LONG ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT? I MEAN, HOW LONG THE DESIGN IS GOING TO TAKE, DO THE CITY, DO THE BOARD HAVE A PROJECTED DATE THAT HE WANT EVERYTHING DONE? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT ONCE THEY GET THIS DESIGN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BREAK GROUND AT 23 AND THEY WON'T BE BUILT FOR 24, POSSIBLY 25 BY THE TIME.
WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT THAT WAY, BUT JUST LIKE I SAY, CAUSE IT'S, LIKE I SAID, CAUSE EVERY, EVERY DAY, EVERY YEAR GOES BY, IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT COST.
WHAT ARE CERTAIN STEPS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW? AND SOME OF THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER, YOU KNOW, CAUSE WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO GET THE DESIGN.
THIS DESIGN HAS TO BE APPROVED AS TO BE GOOD.
YOU NOTICE THE MIND IT'S GOING TO BE YIELDED AND THAT NO SIGNS OR ONE TYPE TIME.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS HAS ALREADY BEEN SLOWED UP AND WHY THINGS ARE AS FAR AS BUILDING AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL LOAD, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I MEAN, IT FINALLY FEELS LIKE WE'RE GETTING THE FORWARD, WHICH I FEEL GRATEFUL FOR.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER TIME.
YOU MENTIONED THAT 18 MONTHS FROM NOW.
AND IF THAT BUILDING DON'T KNOW BEFORE THAT, WELL, HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE RESOLVED BY THE TIME WE GET READY TO BREAK AROUND WHEN WE GET DONE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO DUMP THAT.
BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS WHY I MENTIONED, WHAT I DID SAID IS WHEN YOU CONTINUES TO SCRATCH OR BEING PUT BACK, UH, EVEN IN WITH THE PROCESS, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE OR TWO MORE YEARS, UH, ANOTHER STAMP WILL COME THROUGH AND THAT, THAT MIGHT PUT IT BACK TWO OR THREE MORE YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND THESE KIDS, UH, MAY NEED SOMEWHERE TO GO.
AND, AND BY THAT TIME, MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE GROWN, YOU KNOW? SO WE, WE NEED TO FIND A WAY EVEN THE HOUSE.
UH, I THOUGHT THAT I MISS A FEW MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, THE ULTIMATE NEED, BUT I THOUGHT THEY WAS TRYING TO, UM, DONATE IT SOMEWHERE TO GET IT AND MOVING, YOU KNOW, AND THEIR OWN.
CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING, THE OLD SWINE BUILDING.
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CAUSE I HAVE A GUY DOING, UH, UH, THE SPRAY, A CROP, HE MOVED ONE AND SOLD IT, UH, NEAR HANCOCK STREET.DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE HISTORY TRAIL, UM, INFORMATION OR YOU GUYS WANT TO LOOK IT OVER? IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, I'D LIKE TO LOOK IT OVER, BUT IF IT, IF IT'S GONE, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE WORKING ON GRANTS IN ORDER TO HELP FACILITATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT THE CENTER ARE I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THEM THE GO AHEAD TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, TIMELINES ON THE GRANTS.
I THINK IT'S, IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S LOOKING AT GETTING GRANTS FOR STANLEY WHITE REC CENTER AND WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE GREEN LIGHT.
WELL, I MEAN THE CITY, THEY HAVE A REAL GRANT, GOOD GRANT WRITER.
AND I'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR YEARS, IF THEY CAN GET GRANTS FOR THAT FALL, THAT NEW PARK OUT THERE FOR UNION POINT OR ANYWHERE ELSE, THEY COULD WRITE GRANTS.
SOME OF THE AUTUMN WILL COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND MYSELF WHEN HE, BUT Y'ALL NEED TO RAISE MONEY.
YOU COMMUNITY NEED TO RAISE MONEY.
WE NEED TO FIX THIS THING BECAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT.
AND UH, WE NEED TO FIX THIS THING.
WE ALL AFFORDED THE CITY AND THAT THE CITY SHOULD FUNCTION FOR THE WHOLE CITY.
IF I LIVE IN A BETTER AREA, A BETTER HOUSING, WE GET BETTER.
AND THEN IF I'M, IF I'M LOW INCOME OR LORDE IN LOW INCOME, WE DON'T CHANNEL ON MONEY WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO AND WE NEED TO STOP THIS THING.
THAT'S WHY I GOT ON THE BOARD BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING REAL, NOT PROMISED.
WE GET A LOT OF PROMISES AND THEY ASKED US TO GO OUT AND GET INFORMATION OR SHARE INFORMATION.
AND WHEN WE DO IT, THEY GO, THEY DO THE OPPOSITE.
AND I'VE BEEN HEARING THIS SAME DAD SINCE I WAS EIGHT.
SO WE NEEDED, WE NEED TO FIX THIS THING FOR THE WHOLE CITY, NOT JUST ONE AREA AND WHERE WHERE'S THE TRAILER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
W WHERE WOULD IT BE? WELL, THE, THE INFORMATION'S IN HERE, BUT IT WOULD BE ALONG THE SIDEWALK AREA FROM THE OLD CENTER TO WHERE THE LOCATION OF THE NEW CENTER WOULD BE, IS WHERE I HAVE PROPOSED.
UM, AND THERE'S MAPS IN HERE THAT SHOW THE AREA THE DAY FOR ITEMS THEY'RE LOOKING AT NAYA.
CAUSE THE REASON I ASKED IS I KNOW THAT IT SAYS, SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ALONG THE CANAL AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A CONNECT FROM UNION POINT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
DOES IT FEEL ALONG THE, UM, THE KUMAIL'S ALL THE WAY TO JT BAUER, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE GOING NEAR THE NEW PAUL.
SO I WAS WONDERING WITH THAT ADDED A PART OF THE TRAIL OR NOT YOU, WELL, THE SIDEWALLS THAT ARE BEING ADDED.
YOU KNOW, HE KNOW THE CANAL THAT RUN BEHIND GORDON STREET ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE EVERGREEN CEMETERY AUTO TO THE NAIL HAD BEEN WORKED AND UH, THEY HAUL IT OUT DIRT.
THEY, THEY HAUL NEW DIRT AND ROCK IN AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A TRAIL.
I WAS ASKING, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE A CONNECTED? I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT AS PART OF THIS ONE, THIS WAS A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL, A SEPARATE GROUP.
SO IT WAS PROBABLY INSIDE THE PERIMETER.
IS THAT THIRD AVENUE ALONG THIRD AVENUE GOING TOWARDS CHATMAN CHATMAN BACK THAT WAY TO WORK IN THE SERVICE HAMMERSON PARK IS GOTCHA.
NOW, WILLY CONNECT TO THE OTHER, UM, HISTORICAL TROUT, IT'S ALREADY SLATED IN THE DEAF COMMUNITY.
THERE WERE THERE'S INFORMATION.
IF YOU READ US, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED TO CONNECT IT TO.
THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT IN THE INTRODUCTION AND ADD IN SOME OF THOSE MORE ON THE STORE, THE MORE LIKE
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ALRIGHT.DOES ANYBODY GOT ANY COMMENTS OR ANY OTHER ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PAST THE PUBLIC INPUT PHASE AT THIS POINT, AS FAR AS THE RECREATION CENTER GOES ABOUT THE DESIGN.
UM, AND I'M NOT, I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT PROGRAMMING.
UM, AND SO AT SOME POINT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING THROUGH IT.
UM, THE TOPS OF PROGRAMS THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I HAVE A COURSE TO KNOW, SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP PROGRAMMING, YOU KNOW, TO SEE HIS WENT TO THE LITTLE SCAN CARDS, HOW WILL THAT AFFECT, UM, THE DEPUTY FIELD COMMUNITY WHEN MOST OF THE TIME THE KIDS AREN'T WITH THEIR PARENTS AND THEY'RE, I MEAN, THEY COULD BE FROM AGES FIVE TO 12.
HOW WOULD A FIVE YEAR OLD? ABSOLUTELY.
OR EVEN A 12 YEAR OLD, KEEP UP WITH THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PUT IN A SYSTEM TO ACCOMMODATE OSHA, OTHER CHILDREN.
WHETHER IT BE THAT WE KEEP UP, YOU KNOW, A LOG WITH THEIR SKIING CARD OR SOMETHING LIKE A ME AND WE CAN PULL IT OUT, YOU KNOW, SCAN IT FOR THEM, BUT THAT'S NOT, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, BUT THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY CAN GIVE ONE IS IF THE PARENTS SIGNED THEM UP FOR CORRECT.
SO WHAT IF, I MEAN, WHAT IF MY MOTHER DON'T WANT TO SIGN ME UP FOR ONE? SO YOU DON'T WANT ME, I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO USE THE RECORD.
UH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE IT, BUT THAT'S THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO CIRCUMVENT AND I'M CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WELL, LET'S LET'S, CAN WE START WORKING ON THAT? AND AS PART OF PROGRAMMING, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT, I'M A PROACTIVE TYPE PERSON.
I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE, CAUSE I COULD SEE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD THAT, BUT THEY BE ABLE TO BE USED IN BOTH CENTERS OR YEAH.
ONCE THEY'RE IN THE SYSTEM THAT HE CAN STAND ON.
IS THERE A COST TO THAT OR WILL THERE BE A COST LATER? YOU DON'T HAVE YOURS RIGHT HERE.
IT'S ABOUT WHEN I'VE GOT, I HAD TO SIGN MY GRANDKIDS UP.
THEY, YEAH, I, WHEN I GOT MINE, WHEN THEY FIRST CAME OUT, SO PAM AND I ARE UNDER THE SAME, UNDER THE SAME WAY.
SO WHERE DO YOU GO TO DO THAT?
AND IS THAT THE HONEST WAY THAT YOU GAIN ENTRY NOW? UM, IF YOU DECIDE TO DO A POOL PASS FOR THE AQUATIC CENTER, USE THAT.
UM, AND THEN ONCE WE OPENED A NEW CENTER, IT WILL BE USED THERE, THERE, HAVE YOU SEEN THE ONE FOR THE WIRE? IT'S GOT A, IT'S GOT A BARCODE ON IT AND IT'S SCANNING IT.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE LITTLE THINGS.
JUST LIKE THE FOOD THERE, PLEASE SEND IT.
I KNEW IT WAS SWITCHED HER OR ANYONE FOSTER.
WE CAME THERE WHEN HE WAS A PUBLIC PARKS, PARKS AND REC.
CAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS USING THE GENERAL, WHO WASN'T.
HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WE'RE HITTING IN THE SAME MANNER.
I THINK WE SHOULD WORK ON THAT WITH PROGRAMMING.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THOSE KIDS? AND THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S PRODUCT BETTER FAIR BECAUSE I KNOW, UM, WHEN FOSTER GAVE NUMBERS, HE HAD, UH, STANDING WHITE, REAL LOW AND I KNOW SANTA WAY HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN, YOU KNOW? SO THAT, THAT, I THINK THAT'LL BE AN EVEN KEEL THERE.
I MEAN, YOU CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STANDING WHITEBOARD SNOOPING, OR MAYBE YOU CAN EVEN GO TO WHERE SNOOPY MARKER.
UM, I WAS OVER THERE QUITE A BIT AND ALL DAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON FUTURE PROGRAMMING?
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WE JUST MADE SURE IT WORKED ON WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? STREET WORK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SHOULD BE ONE OF THE TOP ROAD IS YES.I MEAN, BESIDES BREAKING GROUND, WHICH IS MY TOP PRIORITY, I UNDERSTAND TIME, BUT I JUST SEE MARTIN MARIETTA IS GOING TO BE DONE BEFORE WE BREAK ANY DIRT ON STANLEY ONE.
AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT JUST OCCURRED.
I'VE SEEN THIS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, YOU HAVE EIGHT HOURS WAS STANDING WHITE OR 11.
THEY ANNOUNCED WITH STAN WHITE.
AND NOW WE WAITED ON ALL OF THIS.
BUT IF WE ALL USE OUR INFLUENCES THAT WE HAVE WITH PEOPLE IN PLACES, MAKING PHONE CALLS AND NOT JUST THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD, THE CITY JUST LIKE NOBODY WANTED THAT HOTEL BUILT DOWNTOWN.
AND EVERYBODY CAME TOGETHER ON THAT.
JUST LIKE PEOPLE CAME TOGETHER ON THAT.
IF WE COME TOGETHER, WE CALL OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND GET PEOPLE, PEOPLE HOCK, WE CAN GET THIS BUILDING DONE AND OFF, THEY COULD BE BREAKING DOWN NEXT, YOU KNOW? YES, WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER.
WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO GET THIS DONE.
I BELIEVE WITH, UM, SATURDAY, SUNDAY FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN.
IT'S A NICE PLAY AREA OVER THERE.
BUT I MEAN, IF IT COULD BE DONE AND UNFINISHED, PAUL, WHY CAN'T BE DONE IN AN EXISTING HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
IT'S SOMETHING HIS MOM IS LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU GET MASSES OF PEOPLE TO STOP A HOTEL APART, WE BUILT
I THINK MS. BARBARA, WE NEED TO, AS A COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO PUT A CARLISLE AND WE NEED TO COME AND PUT OUR FOOT DOWN AND STOP LETTING PEOPLE PROCRASTINATE WITH US.
THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO DO THAT.
IT'S NOT, NOT FIVE OR SIX OF US.
WE NEED JUST LIKE THIS PLACE WAS FILLED.
WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THAT HOTEL.
THIS PLACE NEEDED TO BE FILLED IN THE SAME MANNER UNTIL WE GET A DECISION AND GROUND IS BEING BROKEN, STANLEY WHITE.
AND WE NEED
HAVE NO PLACE TO GO TO PALLADIUM.
NONE BECAUSE STANLEY WHITE IS GONE AND IT'S BEEN GONE.
WE GOT TO HAVE ALMOST A WHOLE GENERATION OF CHILDREN AS GLOVED GOING TO GROW UP WITHOUT ANY RICKSON.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.
AND IT'S LIKE, HMM, NOBODY CARES.
IT'S LIKE THE CITY DON'T CARE.
I MEAN, THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU I'M SAYING THE CITY AS A WHOLE, BUT IF A HOTEL COME DOWN A HOTEL, COME, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS DOWNTOWN NEWBURGH, YOU GOT THIS PLACE FULL OF FOLK BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN.
I'VE BEEN COMING TO THESE MEETINGS FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND I SEE IT.
AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS.
WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS IN 2022? THAT SHOULD BE, THAT SHOULD BE A FOREGONE CONCLUSION TO HAVE SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE AND SOME AREAS.
NO, THEY STILL GOT STILL GETTING IT.
WELL, I GUESS BECAUSE OF WHERE, HOW I GREW UP, WHERE I GREW UP AND WHERE I LIVE AT NOW, IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME.
SO THEY PUT SIDEWALKS DOWN COUNTRY CLUB ROAD TO APPEASE ME AND THEN THEY STOP.
AND THERE'S NO MORE SIDEWALKS.
REALLY? WHAT'D YOU GOT ALL THIS MONEY.
READY? H E DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS.
I'M SO SICK AND TIRED OF NOT HAVING A GYM FOR OUR KIDS TO GO TO.
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OH, I'M SICK OF IT.AND I GO OVER, I GO OVER TO WEST NEWBURGH AND NO ONE'S THERE.
NO ONE IT'S TOO FAR WEST NEUMEIER.
THE GUYS WE'VE BEEN PLAYING CARDS OVER THERE FOR A YEAR.
THEY PAINTED, THEY PAINTED THE GAME ROOM.
THEY PUT TELEVISIONS UP IN THE GAME ROOM AND THEY'D GOT THEM STUCK IN A CUBBY.
NO, YOU AIN'T KNOW THAT GATES, THAT TELEVISION WAS PUT UP THERE BY THE GUYS WHO PLAYED CARDS.
THEY RE DID THE POOL TABLE IN THERE.
THE GUYS WHO SHOT POOL, THAT ROOM WAS PAINTED BY THE GUYS WHO PLAY CARS, NOT THE CITY, BUT THEY CAN NOT GO IN THAT GAME ROOM.
YOU CAN'T WHERE YOU GOING? WEST NEW BURNER.
YOU GOT TO GO IN THAT LITTLE ROOM ON THE LEFT, THE LITTLE MEETINGS.
WE AIN'T NEVER BEEN IN THERE, BUT NOW WE ARE, WE CAN'T GO PAST THE FRONT DOOR.
THAT'S WHY I DON'T GO THERE NO MORE.
AND THE GYM, YOU LOOK AT THE GYM.
JIM WAS ALWAYS, WHEN I CAME HERE AT 12 O'CLOCK NOW YOU GO OVER TO WEST NOWHERE.
IT'S A REASON BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T GET THERE.
WE MADE THE GIFT STANDING, RIGHT? BILL, PERIOD.
IT'S NOT AS YOU CHASING THE BRUNT OF THIS, BUT I'M TELLING YOU IT AIN'T, IT AIN'T GOING LIKE IT SHOULD BE STARTED ON.
ALL I LOOK AT IS THIS MARTIN MARIETTA WAS STARTED NEAR 18 20 18.
I SAID, ALMOST IT'S CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETED.
THIS DELI WEIGHT IS BEING BUILT.
WELL, THE DIFFERENCE IS OUR STAFF IN-HOUSE CONSTRUCTED OUR MARRIOTT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE
THERE WAS NO OUT OF POCKET, LIKE TO BRING IN A CONTRACTOR OTHER THAN LIGHT IN THE BLOCK,
NO, THERE ARE STAFF GET ALL OF THAT.
WE ONLY THOUGHT WE HAD FOR WAS FOR PUBLIC INPUT LIKE WE DID FOR STAFF AND DOES ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING OUT THERE AND HAS OCCURRED BY PARKS AND RECREATION STYLE.
UM, OUR STAFF MIGHT BE ABLE TO HOLD RECREATION, SEEING HER LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
BUT, UM, SO THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO.
I GUESS ONCE THE FEMUR RELEASES SEND US THE PARK OR THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR HIM TO SOME PARKERS BE APPROVED, THIS STAFF CAN DO EVERYTHING BECAUSE EVERY TIME THERE'S SOMETHING MORE, OUR STUFF IS THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON.
NO, WE WAITING ON SOME STUFF FOR MOM, FEMA, MS. MS. LEE FOR AWHILE.
IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT OUR STAFF CAN DO IT, BUT IT WILL BE REQUIRED BY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR FRAME UP BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO DETERMINE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE AS FAR AS THE ROUGE TERMS.
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SO SANDRA SUPPORT WE'LL MOVE ALONG QUICKLY.ONCE WE GET THE MONEY FOR MY CHILDREN, BECAUSE OUR STAFF WILL BE THE ONES DOING THE WORK.
UM, WE HAVE SOME VERY TALENTED STAFF WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
I SAID THAT ONCE WE GET THE, OKAY, YOU GO START DOING THE CHALLENGING WORK, UM, HENDERSON PARK.
THEY DON'T MOVE QUICKLY BECAUSE OUR STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO DO A MAJORITY OF THAT WORK.
THE CHANGE IN SCOPE FOR THE RESTROOM.
THAT WAS A SEPARATE, UM, DOCUMENT THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR THE RACE I, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO NOW IS THIS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE? THIS IS JUST LIKE A FIRST CAUSE I KNOW THEY WAS JUST ABOUT HALF UP THERE AND A LOT OF THE THINGS FROM THAT STAGE ON THE GROUND.
SO I DON'T SEE IT IN THAT, ON THIS MAP.
THIS IS CURRENTLY WHAT'S PROPOSED.
IT MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE OTHER THINGS I ADDED WITH TIME, BUT RIGHT NOW THIS IS THE LEISURE, THE EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT WERE YOU BACK, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER AREAS OUT THERE THAT CAN BE, UM, THE PARENT WAS VALUE STONE.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.
BUT THOSE AREAS, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE BALL FIELDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT THERE.
SO THERE'S SOME POSSIBILITY FOR THOSE INJURIES.
SO THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE MADE TONIGHT, ARE THEY GOING ANYWHERE? ARE THEY JUST GONNA LAY DORMANT? UH, YES.
SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS WE MADE TONIGHT, ARE THEY GOING TO GO ANYWHERE? YEAH.
I'LL TAKE THEM WITH ME AND MOVING UP THE CHAIN ABOUT THE SMALLER BASKETBALL THEATER, EITHER KEEPING THE OLD ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE, ADDITIONAL SHELTER THAT STAYS.
AND I'M SO SORRY FOR CONFUSING.
REALIZE WHEN I WAS SAYING THE OPPOSITE WAS I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, ANY OBJECTION.