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FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH AND HE'S USED TO TV.
GOD WHO IS CREATING STU WE THANK YOU AND BLESS YOUR HOLY NAME THIS EVENING FOR THE POSSIBILITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU SO GRACIOUSLY GRANT TO FORGIVE US.
SO GOD, WHEN WE FAIL TO USE THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AT OUR DISPOSAL TO THE BEST ADVANTAGE OF YOUR KINGDOM AND YOUR PROVIDENCE, YOU HAVE CALLED US TO THIS TIME AND TO THIS PLACE, WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING AMERICAN CITIZENS AND CITIZENS OF NEWBURGH.
CONTINUE LORD TO DIRECT OUR PATHS, THAT WE MIGHT BE FATEFUL STEWARDS OVER ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE ENTRUSTED TO US.
WE HAVE A SEAT YOU ON BEHALF OF THIS BOARD TONIGHT, THAT THEY WILL ACT IN THE SPIRIT OF DISCERNMENT AND WISDOM CONSTANTLY AND COMPASSIONATELY THINKING OF THAT, WHICH IS BEST AND FAIR FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, THAT WHICH WILL BRING GLORY TO YOUR NAME.
MA'AM HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.
UH, FIRST OFF, I LIKE TO SAY, IS THAT DR.
MELONS? I SAY IN ABOUT THE THIRD ROW, THE PREVIOUS ILLUSTRIOUS MAYOR, AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT YOU'VE DONE SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB, THAT I'D LIKE YOU TO COME OUT HERE TONIGHT AND JUST TIGHTEN THIS.
FIRST THING WE HAVE IS THE PRESENTATION OF THE NATIONAL SAFETY COUNCIL AWARD OF MERIT.
SOMEBODY WANT TO COME UP? THERE WE GO.
I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE FROM MR. MAYOR.
I NEED YOU TO TALK ABOUT, UH, ABOUT 13 MONTHS AGO, MYSELF, ALONG WITH A SAFETY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS REPRESENTATIVE OF EACH DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY.
WELL, SARAH, WE ACHIEVED ABOUT 90% OF THOSE GOALS.
MOST ONE OF WHICH WAS WE HAD NO FATALITIES FOR 1998.
WE'VE GOT NO LOSS, WORKDAY, NO LAST WORKDAY CASES.
WE RECEIVED A MILLION, OUR SAFETY AWARD FROM THE NORTH CAR DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.
AND SIR, ONE THING WE DIDN'T EXPECT WAS NATIONAL RECOGNITION FROM THE NATIONAL SAFETY COUNCIL IS PRESENTED TO THE CITY OF NEW BERN FOR OPERATING 1,022,120 EMPLOYEE HOURS WITHOUT OCCUPATIONAL INJURY OR ILLNESS INVOLVING DAYS AWAY FROM WAR JANUARY 1ST, 1998 AND DECEMBER 1ST, 1998.
SO ON BEHALF OF THAT DEFENSE COUNSEL, PRESENT THIS TO YOU.
YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU SUPPOSED TO LOOK, I WANT TO HEAR IT.
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THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES.[00:10:25]
THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE LAST SURPRISES I GOT WHEN I BECAME THE MAYOR AND I TELL A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WAS JUST A RELATIVE HIGH QUALITY AND CALIBER OF THE CITY WORKERS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT IT'S REAL EASY TO COME INTO A PLACE.AND THEN YOU STRAIGHTEN IT UP AND THINGS LOOK REALLY GOOD.
BUT WHEN YOU COME IN AND THINGS IN REAL GOOD AND JACKIE IS KIND OF DIFFICULT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BUT, UH, THEY REALLY ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
I GUESS THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS NUMBER FIVE REQUEST AND PETITION OF CITIZENS.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TONIGHT THAT HAS COME JUST FOR THE, UH, TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR THING THAT'S ON THEIR MIND AND NOT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO THE NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ARTICLES, A AND B AND UH, BERNARD GEORGE, PLEASE.
IF YOU'LL COME UP AND BRIEF US ON A LITTLE BIT, MIA, BAYLIS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU AN APPLICATION, A POSED AMENDMENT THAT WILL AMEND SECTION 15, 15 ORDINANCE.
THIS AMENDMENT BASICALLY CREATES TWO CLASSIFICATIONS HOME OCCUPATIONS, CURRENT ORDINANCE ADDRESSES, HALLMARK AND PATIENTS BY REQUIRING THAT THEY OCCUPY MORE THAN 20% OF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA BUILDING THAT DID NOT CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING OF A BUILDING WELL IN ITSELF THAT NO PERSON OTHER THAN THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES CAN BE EMPLOYED IN THE HOME OCCUPATION.
AND THAT IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF DWELLING ON A NEIGHBORHOOD PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
AS A RESULT OF CHANGES IN THE WORK HABITS OF CITIZENS, EXPLOSION OF COMPUTER USE TELEMARKETING TYPES OF OCCUPATIONS THAT MANY CITIZENS CAN CARRY ON IN THE HOME AND NOT CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE HOME.
AS A RESULT OF THESE CHANGES IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HAS SEEN FIT TO REQUEST THAT THE BULLET CONSIDER A MINUTE A HALLMARK PATIENT REQUIRED TO RELAX THEMSELVES THROUGH THE LAST TIME IN ABOUT THREE BASIC WAYS TO PERMIT WHOLE LOT OF PATIENTS TO EMPLOY ONE PERSON, NOT A RESIDENT.
AND THIS IS ON THE BOARD FOR MATTER ON OCCUPATION PERMIT.
THIS PERMIT WILL BE ISSUED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
IT ALSO WOULD COMMIT THE ERECTION OF THE SIDE OF NEW GREATEST SIZE TWO SQUARE FEET.
THE MAJOR ONE OF MY PATIENT WOULD PERMIT A HALLMARK OF PATIENT IN AN ASSESSMENT BUILDABLE MIRAGE OF NO GREATER THAN 400 SQUARE FEET.
IT WOULD ALSO PREVENT THE EMPLOYMENT OF A NON-RESIDENT IN THE HOME OCCUPATION.
AND IT WOULD ALSO PROHIBIT HALLMARK PATIENTS, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS, WHERE THERE IS A HOME OWNER'S ASSOCIATION THAT HAS A RULING RESTRICTING OR PROHIBITING HOME OCCUPATIONS OR RESTRICTED COVENANTS.
AND THIS WAY WE FEEL THAT WE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TONY TO REGULATE ALL MY PATIENTS OVER, SEE THEM AND ALSO COMMIT TO OPERATE ON MY PATIENTS TO COME OUT OF THE, UH, OF COVER.
IN OTHER WORDS, GOES THROUGH MAY, UH, WITHOUT PERMIT FINISH DEVICES AND OPERATE.
SO AS TO BE DEFENDANT THE REALMS OF THE LAW TO PAY PRIVILEGE TAXES AND THAT SORT OF THING, AND THAT HE PAID REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE, THE MAJOR WELLMARK PATIENT IS, WOULD BE ISSUES SIMILAR TO THE ZONING.
I MEAN, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS THE PERMIT ISSUED BY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ADJUSTED.
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THIS WOULD BE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH NEIGHBORS, OTHER PERSONS WHO HAVE TESTIMONY EVIDENCE REGARDING THE PROPOSED HOME BACK HOME OCCUPATION ACTIVITY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WITH DAVID TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION AS TO THE PROVENANCE DIVISION, A HOME BY PATIENT.AFTER THAT, HERE, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVE SOME, UH, UH, CONCERN ABOUT PATIENT AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM TO ADDRESS WHATEVER I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS WHATEVER CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE.
CAN I ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BEFORE WE, WE STARTED ON THAT? I NOTICED, UH, IN THERE WE ADDED THE SIGNS IN WHICH I'VE GOT QUITE A FEW CALLS ON THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ORDINANCE, UH, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME, I HAVE, UH, UH, A HOME OWNED BUSINESS AND, AND IS FINE.
IT'S JUST THE HUSBAND AND WIFE THAT, UH, WORKS CERAMICS AS A FEW CARS PER DAY IS NO PROBLEM, BUT I WOULD HATE TO SEE A SIGN HUNG ON THAT GARAGE NEXT TO MY HOUSE IN MY FRONT YARD, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T OBJECT TO THAT BUSINESS.
AND ALSO I NOTICED THAT UNDER THE MAJOR YOU'RE INCLUDING THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, BUT NOT UNDER THE MINOR AND NEITHER CASES ARE YOU'RE INCLUDING THE ALDERMAN OF THE WARD.
THAT'S CONCERNED BECAUSE I HATE TO GET SURPRISED IF SOMEBODY CALLS AND SAYS SOMEBODY HAS GOT A BUSINESS NEXT DOOR TO ME, AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND WHERE YOU'VE GOT A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT'S ACTIVE, THEN THEY SHOULD BE CONSULTED IN THE WARD, ALL OF THEM BEFORE YOU EVEN CONSIDER ANY OF THIS, EVEN THOUGH I'VE GOT A LOT OF HEARTBURN WITH SOME OF THESE CHANGES, BECAUSE I DON'T OBJECT TO FAMILY BUSINESSES, BUT I DO OBJECT TO THE ONES WHERE THEY START HIRING PEOPLE AND EXPANDED.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT JUST MY THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW.
I'D PROBABLY RESERVE SOME MORE COMMENTS LATER ON.
UH, PRESIDENT
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THE WHOLE LOT OF MAJOR AS SUCH ZONING.
DOESN'T THAT? UH, WELL ACTUALLY THERE'S ONLY
I REALIZE THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT IN A LARGE AREA THAT DO HAVE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, YOU KNOW, I RESPECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR RESTRICTIONS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR ANYTHING.
THAT'S GOING TO CARRY ANYTHING IN THERE TO PROHIBIT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM BEING ATTRACTIVE AND NICE LIKE IT IS TODAY.
I ALSO HAD QUITE A FEW CALLS AND THIS IS NOT TO ELIMINATE THE PUBLIC HERE, BUT I THINK I'VE GOT A LETTER HERE FROM A MR. EARL ME HAD A CHANCE TO COMPENSATE A LITTLE BIT TODAY AND THE BOARD WILL ALLOW ME, I LIKED ME TO SWEAT AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND OF COURSE, INSIDE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION, UH, MR. OMI, UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M A RESIDENT OF NEWBURN RESIDING AT FIVE 17 JOHNSON STREET AND HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE ABOVE CAPTIONED ORDINANCE CHANGE.
FORTUNATELY, I HAVE A PRIOR COMMITMENT AND WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND THE BOARD MEETING THIS EVENING.
I REVIEWED THE CURRENT HOME OCCUPATION SECTION NUMBER 52 AND THE PROPOSED SECTION 52 A AND B ENTITLED HOME OCCUPATION, MINOR AND HOME OCCUPATION MAYBE, AND WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW THE DIFFERENCES AS I SEE THEM AND COMMENT ACCORDINGLY FIRST I'M UNCLEAR WHETHER THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS APPROVE ALL HALLMARK FOR PATIENTS UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, BUT THE PROPOSED HOME OCCUPATION MINOR MAY BE APPROVED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
WHEREAS HALLMARK A PATIENT MAJOR REQUIRES APPROVAL BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
SECOND, THE PROPOSED HOME OCCUPATION MINOR UTILIZED A PORTION OF THE RESIDENT SQUARE AS A HOME OCCUPATION MAJOR IS LOCATED IN A SEPARATE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY.
THIRD, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE DOES NOT PERMIT ANY EMPLOYEES OTHER THAN THE RESIDENCE, WHEREAS PROPOSED ORDINANCE A OR B PERMITS, ONE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE WAS NOT ARRESTED FOR THE COURT OR THE CURRENT ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS, PROHIBITS LICENSED PROFESSIONALS, SUCH AS LAWYERS AND DOCTORS FROM MAINTAINING THE OFFICE AS A HOME OCCUPATION, THE PROPOSAL, AND THIS ELIMINATES THIS LIGHT.
SO IT APPEARS THAT LICENSED PROFESSIONALS WILL BE PERMITTED TO MAINTAIN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IN, AT HOME ON A SEPARATE BUILDING, AS A HOME OCCUPATION FEELING THE TWO SQUARE FOOT SIGN IS PERMITTED UNDER PROPOSED PROPOSAL ON IT.
BESIDE LANGUAGE IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE COURT.
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THERE IS NO LANGUAGE WITH RESPECT TO PARKING, A PROPOSED HOME OCCUPATION MINOR, BUT THERE IS LANGUAGE UPON OFF STREET PARK KIND OF PROPOSAL, HOME OCCUPATION.MAYBE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS AN EXPANSION OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
AND THAT ONE NON-RESIDENT ONE NON-RESIDENT EMPLOYEE WILL BE PERMITTED.
LICENSED PROFESSIONALS ARE ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN THEIR PRACTICE IN THEIR HOME AS A HOME OCCUPATION.
AND AMAZINGLY TO ME, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATORS COMMITTED TO APPROVE AT HOME OCCUPATION.
IF IT IS PHYSICALLY LOCATED IN A HOME, WHERE IS IT REQUIRES BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPROVAL.
IF THE HOME OCCUPATION IS LOCATED IN A SEPARATE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY, HOW DOES THE ZONING ADMINISTRATIVE FETISH TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THE HOME OCCUPATION MINOR? AND A PARAGRAPH HAS SUCH SUBJECTIVE TERMS AS DOES THE OCCUPATION HAVING SIGNIFICANTLY ADVERSE IMPACT ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES DOES ACTIVITY TO GENERATE TRAFFIC BIND A PARKING GREATER THAN WOULD NORMALLY BE EXPECTED IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THESE ARE MATTERS THAT CAN ONLY BE DETERMINED WITH TESTIMONY OF APPLICANT AND SHOULD BE HEARD BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS ON A PROPOSED HOME OCCUPATION, MINOR OFF STREET, PARKING IS NOT EFFECTIVE.
WHY NOT? WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHETHER THE HOME OCCUPATION IS IN THE HOME RATHER THAN A SEPARATE BUILDING ON STREET PARK? IT SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE HOME PLACEMENT BECAUSE OF THE DANGER PRESENTS TO PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY CHILDREN AND CONGESTION.
IF HOME OCCUPATION ARE ALLOWED TO ALWAYS BE REQUIRED, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE CLEARLY INCLUDES LICENSED PROFESSIONALS WHO MAY OPERATE A PRACTICE IN THEIR HOME AND MAY HIT AND MAY PERMIT FOR FIT PROFESSIONALS TO SEE CLIENTS AND PATIENTS IN THE HOME.
SINCE THE NEW LANGUAGE MAKES REFERENCE TO CUSTOMER TRAFFIC, ANY INCREASE IN TRAFFIC INCREASES CONGESTION AND COMPROMISE THE SAFETY.
THESE ARE MY VIEWS AS TO SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WITH POLLS.
AUDIT HAS CHANGED SINCE IMPROVISED, BUT EXPANSION OF THE COURSE CURRENT ORDINANCE, I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ADDITION TO TRACK TRAFFIC SAFETY MATTERS IN REGARD TO ON-STREET PARKING AND THE CHANGE THAT WOULD AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIGHT IN A RESIDENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IN WHICH I LIVE THE AREA WOULD GRADUALLY TAKE ON A GREATER BUSINESS ATMOSPHERE, WHICH IS AT FIRST TO THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF THE DISTRICT THAT COME IN AND GO INTO THE CLIENTS, CUSTOMERS AND PATIENTS FOR RELEVANCE OF PROPERTIES WOULD INCREASE TRAFFIC.
BUT THIS REASON I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE BOARD TO REJECT THE PROPOSED HOME OCCUPATION.
ONE HAS CHANGED THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
IT SEEMS TO ME AS SUFFICIENT AND SHOULD NOT BE EXPANDED.
MIKE HAD THAT I AM FAMILIAR AND EXPERIENCED IN THE ISSUE OF HOME OCCUPATION AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
I'M A RETIRED ATTORNEY FROM ANOTHER JURISDICTION AND SPECIALIZED IN REAL ESTATE.
REAL ESTATE MATTERS AS AN ATTORNEY, I HAVE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE.
I HAVE FOUND THAT APPROVAL OF HOME OCCUPATION IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT GENERATE TRAFFIC AND DO ADVERSELY AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE SAFETY AND ENJOYMENT IN THE RESIDENCE.
THERE ARE AREAS ZONED FOR BUSINESS AREAS ON FOR RESIDENTIAL USE.
I SUGGEST THAT THEY, THAT THEY SHOULD BE SEPARATE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
VERY TRUE WITH EARL THAT FIT IN THE MINUTES.
AND OF COURSE, I'VE HAD SEVERAL CALLS ON THIS ISSUE.
AND I SAY, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE WHO MAY BE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE THAT ARE PROBABLY, YES.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS BORED AND I WOULD HATE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WOULD BE DENIED.
BUT I LIKE TO MAKE THE MOST TYPE OF CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. MAYOR, WE HAVEN'T HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE WAY I, I LIKE TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE MAY I, MAY I ASK? IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN FAVOR OF THE CHANGE OF THIS, UM, GENTLEMEN QUESTION, IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO, TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, IN OTHER WORDS, FULL OF THIS CHANGE, IS ANYBODY FOR IT HERE TONIGHT? WHO'S AGAINST IT STAND UP, BUT NOT ALL AT ONCE.
THAT IS, I THINK JUDAS HAS A VALID POINT AND THIS IS GOING TO BE SO CONTROVERSY.
WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS BEFORE A WORK SESSION.
AND, UH, BUT, BUT RAPIDLY, I THINK, I THINK ANY, ANY, UH, HEARING WILL BE FEUDAL TONIGHT.
THIS MATTER NEEDS TO GO BEFORE WORK SESSIONS.
SO, UM, I'LL BE WILLING TO SECOND JUDY'S MOTION.
WELL, I LIKE TO SAY IF THERE'S NONE OF THE PEOPLE HIT US, OPPOSED US CLOSING THIS AND ME VOTING AGAINST IT.
I'M ALL FOR POINT OF ORDER, POINT OF ORDER, OUR AGENDA CALLS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT'S WHY I MET AND HAVING PEOPLE AND HAVING PEOPLE STAND UP AS NOT HEARING WHAT, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS AND TALKING ABOUT IT IN A
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WORK SESSION IS FINE.EXCEPT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO SHOW UP AT THAT WORK SESSION.
AND I DON'T THINK THIS THING IS GOING TO FLY.
I'LL, UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM.
IF THERE'S NOBODY HERE AT THIS POINT AND EVERYBODY'S AGAINST IT, THIS IS A PRETTY WELL DONE DEAL.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE WHITE SMOKE TO COME OUT OF THE CHIMNEY NECESSARILY.
HOWEVER, UH, MAX HAS A POINT ALSO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND SOMEBODY FEELS LIKE THEY WERE DENIED THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, THAT'S NOT VERY GOOD EITHER.
SO ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND IF THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S NECESSARY TO SPEAK ON IT, PLEASE DO COME UP.
ONE OF YOU, TWO OF YOU, OR I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT ALL OF YOU CAN'T COME UP.
I LIKE TO SAY FROM MY PERSONAL VIEWPOINT ALSO, UH, THAT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ONE DOES WITHIN INSIDE OF ONE'S HOUSE IS MORE OR LESS THEIR BUSINESS TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
BUT WHEN YOU START PUTTING SIGNS ON THINGS AND YOU HAVE EMPLOYEES AND YOU HAVE PARKING FOR CUSTOMERS, THEN I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THAT BEING A BUSINESS AND A BUSINESS, YOU PUT HOME BUSINESS, NO BUSINESS, SMALL BUSINESS, ANY KIND OF URBAN BUSINESS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IS STILL A BUSINESS.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT IN THE YEARS PAST TO BE CAREFUL OF ZONING AND THAT TYPE OF THING SO THAT PEOPLE COULD BE SURE MORE OR LESS THAT WHEN THEY BUY A PLACE THAT IT KIND OF REMAINS THE WAY THEY WANTED IT TO.
THIS SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD CHANGE IT ALSO, IT SEEMS LIKE IT FLIES IN THE FACE AND THINGS LIKE THE CHIEF OR AN EXAMPLE, AND OTHERS THAT WON'T NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES AND SO FORTH.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH IF THIS CONTINUAL STRANGE TRAFFIC COMING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KNOW WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S DOESN'T BELONG THERE? SO, YOU KNOW, THEY, A LOT OF, A LOT OF SIDE EFFECTS TO THIS THING THAT IT REALLY NEEDED TO BE RECONSIDERED.
WELL, I MAY, OR MAY I DRAFT TWO SPOKESMAN FOR THE GROUP?
YES, MA'AM PLEASE COME UP TO IT GIVES US A BETTER SHOT AT YOU.
I'VE LOST AND I'M GOING TO FIVE 16 JOHNSON STREET.
AND I WAS A DELEGATED SPEAKER BY MR. MEAD, WHO FORTUNATELY HAS AN ENGAGEMENT WITH THIS EVENING.
AND, UM, I JUST SIMPLY WANT TO REINFORCE WHAT WAS IN THE CONTENTS OF THE LETTER THAT WE ARE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO ANY CHANGES AT THIS SORT BUILDING HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THERE ARE SUFFICIENT CHANGES GOING ON WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT ARE AFFECTING THE QUALITY OF RESIDENTIAL LIFE.
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES AND ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC TO COMMEND TO THE DISTRICT.
UM, WE'VE OWNED OUR HOME FOR 12 AND A HALF YEARS, AND THEN THE 12 AND A HALF YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS COMMUNITY, SEVERAL OF WHICH I'VE BEEN INVOLVED VERY ACTIVELY.
I'VE NEVER SEEN A TIME WHERE ANY SITTING BOARD OF ALL WOMEN HAS COME FORWARD TO THE RESIDENT, BODY OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TO SAY, HEY, THANK YOU GUYS.
YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER A WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU'VE GIVEN US A LOT OF GREAT RECOGNITION.
AND I PERSONALLY REGARD THIS AS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO MAKE AN HISTORIC DISTRICT IS OKAY, LET ME, LET ME LAUGHING.
LET ME, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION HERE.
I AM OPPOSED TO THE HOME OCCUPATION SITUATION, UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM, BUT THERE ARE SOME, THERE'S SOME THINGS NAGGING AT THE BACK OF MY MIND THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET STRAIGHTENED OUT AND THE CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE TREADING ON THE SOFT GROUND HERE.
WHEN IT COMES TO A PERSON USING THEIR PROPERTY IN A WAY THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HARM THEIR NEIGHBORS.
AND SOME HOME OCCUPATIONS WOULD DEFINITELY SOME WOULD NOT YOUR OWN JOHNSON STREET BACK AND NAMED TWO PEOPLE ON JOHNSON STREET.
NOW WHO RUN BUSINESSES IN THEIR HOMES.
ARE WE GOING TO, IF WE SAY NO HOME OCCUPATIONS, ARE WE GOING TO GO KNOCK ON THEIR DOORS AND SAY, YOU CAN'T RUN YOUR CONSULTING FARM ANYMORE.
YOU CAN'T DO YOUR COMPUTER WORK ANYMORE.
AND I KNOW A OF CHIROPRACTORS, I KNOW A GUY WHO HAD CONTRACTS AND GOES ALL OVER THE WORLD, BUT HE'S GOT A LARGE OFFICE IN HIS HOME.
THE NEIGHBORS DON'T EVEN KNOW IT.
SO THERE'S THE SOFT GROUND I'M TALKING ABOUT.
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I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL HOW IT'S WORDED BECAUSE IT IS A HOME BUSINESS.AND IF WE JUST SAY HOME BUSINESSES FROM MY ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A GRANDFATHER TO EXIST ALREADY, YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.
SO I HAVE A FIRST TIME, UH, SUGGESTING NO CHANGES IN THE PRESENT ORDINANCE IN THAT.
I'M JUST MENTIONING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE, THERE'S THE SOFT GROUND.
I DON'T WANT TO DENY ANYONE WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING.
AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE SATISFIED WITH IT, NOT HAVING A PROBLEM WITH IT.
AND THAT'S WHY I SAID, LET'S HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I WANT TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT'S JUST GETTING WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT.
BUT, UH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF THE HOME BUSINESS, BUT YOU TAKE A OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT YOU CAN'T SET UP A DISTRICT BY DISTRICT.
YOU LOOK AT THE STORE DISTRICTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT ADVOCATING IT.
I WAS JUST ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT, AND I, THAT THIS, I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE GOING TO GRANDFATHER, THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE IN, I KNOW IT'S, THIS WILL BE A CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE.
UH, AND THE ORDINANCE ALREADY ALLOWS THESE HOME OCCUPATIONS.
AND THOSE PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THEY MOVE INTO SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY KNOW THEN THEY COULD MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE EMPTY STORES, BUT IF WE MAKE NO CHANGE AT ALL IN THE EXISTING ORDINANCE, THEN MORE AND MORE HOME BUSINESSES COULD BE OPENED, COULD BE STARTING.
UH, AND, AND, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE.
IT'S, IT'S JUST THAT IF WE, IF WE KEEP THE ORLEANS THE WAY IT IS, THEY CAN OPEN HOME BUSINESSES.
WE'RE NOT SAYING NO BUSINESS, BUT JUST SAYING NO CHANGES PRESENT YEAH, BUT I DO THINK IT'S NOT QUITE FINE THE WAY THAT IT IS.
AND THAT'S WHY MR. BRENDAN AND MR. GEORGE BROUGHT IT UP IS THERE ARE NUMBERS OF BUSINESSES OPERATING IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THESE TYPES OF THINGS THAT NOBODY IS REALLY MAKING A UPROAR ABOUT.
BUT THOSE BUSINESSES ARE IN VIOLATION OF EXISTING ORDINANCES.
YET IN THE PAST, SOME ENFORCEMENT, THOSE EXISTING ORDINANCES HAVE CREATED UPROARS WITHIN A COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THEN SIGNED PETITION SAYING, WELL, THIS ONE'S ALL RIGHT.
WELL, THIS ONE'S ALL RIGHT, AND THEY CAN DO IT HERE.
THEN MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT ELSEWHERE, BUT ALL OF IT'S IN VIOLATION OF EXISTING ORDINANCES.
SO THE ISSUE IS REALLY DO WE ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE SO THAT SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT THERE IN VIOLATION NOW, OR DO WE, UH, MAKE A, UH, REASONABLE CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES AND ALLOW THEM IN OTHER PLACES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND START CLOSING DOWN A LOT OF, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME ANSWER THAT IF POSSIBLE.
AND I THINK THE CITY SHOULD WORK THE EXISTING ORDINANCES IN MANY OTHER AREAS THERE.
WHAT DID MOUNTAIN BE POSSIBLE TO JUST GRANDFATHER? THE PEOPLE IN THAT ARE DOING IT.
NOW WE CALL US BY JUST WEREN'T.
YOU SAID WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM, WHOEVER THEY ARE.
AND WHERE WERE THEY? I MEAN, THIS WOULDN'T BE THE PERSON I ASKED
AND NOBODY HAS PROBLEM WITH JOHNSON STREET OR ANYWHERE ELSE HAS A PROBLEM.
I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? I DIDN'T HEAR THAT WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP TO THE, THIS, TO THE BOARD WALL, AND THIS IS THE SITUATION WITH THE PERSON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAD A TELEPHONE SYSTEM IN THE GARAGE, AND THERE WAS A PROBLEM REGARDING THAT PERSONS EMPLOYING THE INDIVIDUAL.
THEY'RE THERE, THEY'D BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS, RIGHT? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? I MEAN, THEY DID, THEY WERE, THEY WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING THAT THE PEOPLE ON JOHNSON STREET AREN'T DOING.
SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M TRYING, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS SEE TO IT THAT THE LAW, AS IT IS WRITTEN WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
AND WE DON'T GIVE IN THIS TOWN IN THE PAST, THERE HAVE BEEN, THERE HAVE BEEN ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO WOULD SAY, WELL, IT'S ALL RIGHT FOR YOU TO DO THAT.
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WE DON'T DO THAT.AND STILL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LAW THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE, WE'RE SAYING PEOPLE WOULD BE VIOLATING.
THEY'RE ALREADY VIOLATING THIS.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO ON EMOTION.
I WANT TO GO ON THE LETTER OF THE LAW.
I'M, I'M, I'M KIND OF, I, 31 YEARS AS A JOURNALIST, I WANT EVERY T CROSSED AND EVERY I DOTTED SO THAT NEITHER YOU, NOR WE HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.
WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LAW IS.
IT'S A LAW THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.
I WOULD NO MORE DO ANYTHING TO HARM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OR ANY OTHER SECTION OF THIS TOWN.
THEN I WOULD JUMP OFF THE TOP OF THIS BUILDING, BUT THIS ONE'S NOT GOING TO FLY.
THIS WAS NOT THIS, THIS ONE IS IT'S WRITTEN WITH A SIGN IT'S NOT AS ON THE FLY.
IT IS THE ANSWER WHEN IT STRIKES THE BITA HANDSOME.
THEY ARE FOR ITS MEMBERS AND BODY REFENCE GEAR LIVE ON CRAVING STREET.
AND TO ADDRESS MR. FREEZE WITH YOUR QUESTIONS, I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE ASKING US HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ENFORCE WHAT LAWS ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S OUR POSITION HERE.
THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA HERE, BUT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS JUST MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN THE CITY OF NEWBURN AS THEY EXIST.
NOW, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE ENFORCEMENT OF WHAT IS ON THE ORDINANCE BOOKS, AND IF YOU NEED OUR HELP DO SO THEN PUBLISH IT TO ALLOW US TO PUBLISH IT OR, OR, OR, UH, SOMEHOW DISSEMINATE THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITIZENS.
BUT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK THAT MS. WATSON OR ANYONE HERE IS TRYING TO HELP YOU TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT MAY EXIST.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO PREVENT FURTHER EXPANSION OF THE USE OF HOMES FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES.
AND AS THE MS MAYOR HAD STATED, IT IS WITH THE SIGNAGE, IT IS WITH THE INQUIRY, WITH THE EMPLOYEES, TWO MAJOR DIFFERENCES THAT WE WANT TO PREVENT TO HAVE HAPPENING IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, NOT ONLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT ALSO IN THE OTHER AREAS OF THE NEWBURN.
UM, IT'S MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND NOT GOING BEYOND WHAT IS THERE.
AND IF YOU DO NEED HELP IN TRYING TO ENFORCE IT ONE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, BUT TO GIVE IT TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND HAVE THEM BECOME MORE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A SO NEAR AND YET, SO FAR, IF I MAY JUST TO REITERATE SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT THE CITY MANAGER MADE, THE REASON THAT THIS IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, THIS WENT THROUGH THREE DISCUSSIONS BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, UH, BEFORE COMING TO YOU WAS THE DIFFICULTY THAT WE WERE FINDING A STAFF LEVEL AND FORCING THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
UH, IF IT IS A SIMPLE IN BLACK AND WHITE AS FATHER OF THE ORDINANCE, WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT STAFF HAS COME UNDER, UH, PRESSURE ON MANY OCCASIONS BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS LIKE BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR SO FORTH, UH, TO ALIGN OUT SOMETHING IN THIS CASE AND MAYBE NOT, YOU KNOW, SO, AND, AND WE FELT THAT FREQUENTLY.
SO WE SAID, WELL, PERHAPS THE ORDINANCE IS TOO STRICT, AND PERHAPS WE NEED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY HERE.
SO SOME OF THESE KINDS OF ANSWERS, UH, CAN GO THERE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
THE IDEA WAS TO TRY TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, THAT SITUATION BETTER.
UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES HERE AND, UH, ALDERMAN, UH, RAINER'S SUGGESTION ABOUT A WORK SESSION IS, UH, I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD ONE, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THERE ARE MANY FACTORS, UM, TO LOOK AT IT AND THEY CONSIDER THE MUST DO THAT.
AND ANYTHING THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE WORK SESSION, WE'LL AGAIN, COME OUT AND STILL BE ADVERTISED AND EVERYBODY WILL READ IT AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN AND HACK AT IT AGAIN.
BUT I THINK OUR FEELINGS ARE, YES, THERE PROBABLY HAS BEEN SOME PROBLEMS IN THE PAST, BUT I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED THAT IF YOU SAY ON THE OTHER HAND, IF ONE IS TO MEET THIS POINT, THIS POINT, THIS POINT, THIS POINT, THEN THERE'S NO STOPPING.
ANYWAY, ANOTHER, ANOTHER PERSON, IF THEY PAY IT TO THE, MY NAME IS BETTY CLARK AND I LEAVE IT LIVE AT 5 0 5 EAST FRONT STREET.
UM, I CERTAINLY WOULD PERSONALLY SAY THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE.
IF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CREEPING IN AND EXPANDING WHAT IS LEGAL UNDER THE YARD ORDINANCE? I THINK YOU SHOULD STOP IT.
UH, SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING
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ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY IF YOU'VE GOT A CHIROPRACTOR, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THEY CAN DO THAT WITH ONE EMPLOYEE.AND THERE AREN'T PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT ALL DAY LONG.
AND THAT SEEMS IN STRICT VIOLATION OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WELL, I'M MAX MENTIONED THAT.
AND, BUT I MEAN, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY SEEM THAT VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE.
TO ME, WE ALL KNOW THAT PEOPLE DO A LOT OF BUSINESS ON THEIR COMPUTERS FROM HOME, BUT THAT'S A LOT OF THAT'S PERSONAL BUSINESS.
AND MAYBE IT'S SOME LITTLE SIDE THING, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE OBJECTING TO THAT, BUT IT'S THIS EXPANSION THAT WE'RE VERY CONCERNED WITH.
I DROVE UP AND DOWN JOHNSON STREET TODAY AND I COULD HARDLY GET THROUGH THERE.
IT WAS SO CONGESTED AND WE'VE GOT ALL THE TOURISTS AND ALL THE BUSES AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THAT WE DON'T MIND BECAUSE THEY'RE, UM, WE'VE, WE'RE PROUD OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO SEE IT, BUT WE DON'T WANT ALL THIS OTHER ACTIVITY AND WE DON'T NEED IT.
AND I THINK THE LAW SHOULD BE ENFORCED.
WELL, LESS, IT'S A FAR CRY BETWEEN SOMEBODY WHO JOB THAT THEY CAN DO AT HOME ON A COMPUTER.
AND NOBODY KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE.
YOU KNOW, THEY WORK AT HOME INSTEAD OF WORKING IN THE OFFICE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE CALLED A HOME JOB, OR SOMEBODY DOES A LITTLE SEWING OR WHATEVER THEY DO PHONE CALLING.
BUT WHEN YOU START HANGING SIGN ME AND IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS TO ME, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START HANGING SIDES, HAVING CUSTOMERS HAVING PARKING CONCERNS, YOU'VE GOT A BUSINESS.
AND SO ANYWAY, HAS ANYBODY MADE ANY MOTIONS? I TOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING SECOND.
CAUSE THAT'S, I SAID, I LOST MY MIND AND I CAN'T RUN AGAIN.
I HAVE ONE OTHER ONE OF THE SENTENCE, UH, TO POINT OUT WHY I INSISTED ON ALLOWING PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR SAY, THIS IS A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE.
AND ONE SENTENCE SAYS, WHEREAS ALL INTERESTED PARTIES WERE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
AND IF WE HAD NOT HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU WOULD NOT, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE INCORRECT.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN GIVEN A CHANCE TO BE HEARD AND TO GIVE YOUR OPINIONS.
WE DIDN'T LIE THE ORDINANCE CHAIR HEARINGS BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION TO THE NOT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE PRUDENT THING TO DO IS FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED, UH, SOME COMMENTS, SOME SOMETHING WE NEED TO KNOW THE SPECIFIC PROVISIONS OF THIS PROPOSED CHANGE THAT THE PEOPLE OBJECT TO, BECAUSE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE IS SO IMPORTANT.
WELL, I THINK THAT THE CITY MANAGER BROUGHT UP SOME LEGITIMATE CONCERNS, THE PLAN DEPARTMENT, WHAT ARE SOME LEGITIMATE CONCERN, AND WE NEED TO TACKLE WHATEVER PROBLEMS THEY ARE HAVING IT.
BY DENYING, DENYING THIS MOTION.
I MEAN, I'M IN FAVOR OF DENYING IT, BUT, BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY DEBATE, UH, IN ORDINANCE OF THIS SCOPE IN A FORUM LIKE THIS, WE NEED TO BE AN INFORMAL SETTING.
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH HAVING A WORK SESSION, BUT WE SHOULD DENY THIS ONE.
AND IF, IF THE PLANNING PEOPLE WANT TO BRING UP SOMETHING BEFORE US TO CONSIDER AND A REPUBLIC AND LET THE PEOPLE KNOW, I DON'T OBJECT TO THAT AND MAKE IT MOST NOW, SECOND, I JUST MADE A SECOND AND IT BROUGHT THE DISCUSSIONS.
I GUESS YOU CALL THE ROLL ON THAT.
NOT THAT WE NEED TO PUT THIS ON FOR A WORK SESSION TO BE DETERMINED BY CLINIC STAFF, BECAUSE YOU CAN BRING THIS BACK UP, BUT WE NEED TO HASH OUT.
SO THE PROBLEM, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN THIS MATTER.
PLEASE NOTE YOUR SPECIFIC OBJECTIONS SO THAT WE CAN FASHION AN ORDINANCE TO, UH, ARE AROUND YOUR OBJECTIONS, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO COME UP AGAIN TO MIKE.
THE SPECIFIC OBJECTIONS WERE TO THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS OF CHANGES, NOT NECESSARILY THE PRESENT OR SO THE SPECIFIC OBJECTIONS LIKE TWO A AND B, WELL, AT LEAST THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, IF THEY KNOW WHERE THE, WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE LEAKING, AT LEAST THEY CAN MAKE SOME PROPOSED CHANGES WITH THEIR CONSIDERATIONS IN MIND, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT WAS, THAT WAS NUMBER SIX, A I THINK SIX, A B HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED YET SIX B.
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BOTH OF YOU, UM, LET THAT BERNARD GO FIRST AND NOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY TONIGHT YOU HAVE FOR YOU, ANOTHER ONE IS BOTH OF THESE IS ACTUALLY FOUR ATTEMPTS TO RESTRICT THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT COMMERCIAL USES CERTAIN TYPES OF ACCESSORY USES MAY HAVE THE RESIDENTS OR DISTRICTS.IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TO OPEN UP THOSE DISTRICTS OR NEIGHBORHOODS TO COMMERCIAL INVASION, BUT TO PRESERVE THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS BY HAVING WORKABLE ORDINANCES, REGULATIONS THAT CAN CONTROL CERTAIN IMPACTS TONIGHT, YOU HAVE IT FOR YOU AND ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 15, 1 50 REGULATING ACCESSORY USES ASSESSORY USES OR USES WORD PRINCIPLE, USE PRINCIPLE, USEFUL ACTIVITY OCCURS.
AND THERE IS A SECOND USE IS CARRIED ON THE RUN OF THE PRINCIPAL USE AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
WE HAVE PRINCIPAL YOUTH WHO HAS BEEN RESIDENTIAL USE AND THEN ASSESSOR USES SUCH AS, UH, HOBBIES, UH, RENTING A ROOM, UH, PARKING A VEHICLE WAS OWNED BY THE RESIDENT YARD SALES.
THOSE SORTS OF THINGS HAVE SOME ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ASSESSORY TO RESIDENTIAL USES MAY HAVE MORE SERIOUS NEGATIVE IMPACTS SUCH AS STORAGE OF AUTOMOBILES.
SO WE HAVE OUR NUISANCE ABATEMENT LAWS THAT CONTROL THE NUMBER OF AUTOMOBILES.
YOU MAY HAVE THAT ON THAT OPERATING PROPERLY.
AT THAT TIME, AS, UH, IN YOUR, IN YOUR YARD, YOU HAVE SHADE TREE AUTO AUTOMOBILE MECHANICS THAT, UH, SOMETIMES REPAIR CARS.
YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE A NEIGHBOR WHO DOES THIS FOR A HOBBY.
YOU WANT TO TRY AND GET A CAR OFF CAR REPAIR AT A REASONABLE PRICE, UM, AND FREQUENT YARD SALES.
THESE SORTS OF THINGS MAY SOMETIMES BRING IN LARGER SKIP EXCURSIONS OF PEOPLE AND UPSET THE BALANCE OF, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO WE HAVE ORDINANCES THAT LIMIT THESE TYPES OF THINGS AFTER RECEIVING NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS, ALL OF THEM WE'VE COME UP WITH THESE TWO AMENDMENTS, WHICH CONTROL BASICALLY THE PARKING VIEW, MAYBE NEGATIVELY IMPACTING VEHICLES, SUCH AS BOATS, LARGE RV, RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
AND TWO UNDER THE ASSESSMENT USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE HOBBIES AND SOMETIMES AN ENFORCED ME ORDINANCE.
WE COME ACROSS PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE A HOBBY AS A MECHANIC.
WHEN THAT PERSON, UH, MAY SAY THAT THIS IS JUST MY MOTHER'S CAUGHT IT OUT OF HER CARE.
SO MY SISTER'S CAR AND THEY WAS CALLING, I'M NOT GETTING CHANGED, BUT IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO FORCE.
WHAT IS, WHEN, IF YOU LIVE IN SOUTH, COULD YOU SEE ALL STAINS IN THE DRIVEWAY? UH, TRANSMISSION IS DROPPED ON THE GRASS AND THOSE SORTS OF SITUATIONS THAT THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT CLEARLY ADDRESS.
SO THESE TWO AMENDMENTS ADDRESS COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, WHICH HAD SERIOUS PROBLEMS FROM TIME TO TIME, ESPECIALLY LARGE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES TOWARDS, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST LOG TRUCKS, 18 WHEELER TRUCKS.
BUT IF YOU LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE NAMED NEIGHBORS LACK AT THE PARK, IN THE DRIVEWAY, OUT ON THE STREETS.
YOU MAY HAVE A PROBLEM WHEREVER THEY'RE AT.
WE TALK TALKING WHEN WE'RE TALKING TONIGHT ABOUT DESERVE AT RESIDENTIAL CARE.
UH, ALSO THIS ORDINANCE, UH, ADDRESSES, UH, THE SHADE TREE MECHANIC.
LIKE I SAID, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THIS LORD, THIS IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO REPAIR A CAR, THEN IF IT'S A HOBBY ASSESS, WE USED TO A RESIDENTIAL USE.
THEN THAT CAR SHOULD BE A RESIDENT'S CAR.
SOMEONE WHO LIVES AT THAT RESIDENCE, IF YOU HAVE TO REPAIR YOUR MOTHER'S CAR OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S CAR, POSSIBLY YOU NEED TO REPAIR THAT AT THEIR HOME.
AND IF IT'S GONNA CALL, UH, REQUIRE EXTENSIVE REPAIRS, THEN THEY NEED TO PAY SOMEBODY TO DO A PROPER JOB.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME THING AS, BUT YOU CAN WORK ON YOUR OWN CALL, WHY I RAN THIS THING.
AND I THOUGHT THAT BEFORE YOU HAVE ONE VARIATION THAT PROHIBITS OUT OF THEIR PAY PERIOD, THE OTHER VARIATION DOES PERMIT THE REPAIR OF A RESIDENT'S CAR AT THAT LOCATION, THE CITY ATTORNEY MA'AM MA'AM IT'S THE BOARD.
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PROBLEM, MY PROBLEM WAS BACK.AND WHAT BERNARD WANTED TO DO WAS HIT IT AUTO COMMERCIAL AND NONCOMMERCIAL AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
AND I PREPARED THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAY.
TELEPHONE CALLS, ONE OF MY BROTHERS WHO IS INTO REPAIRING AUTOMOBILES, HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO BE AT LEAST 50 PEOPLE, WHEREAS KENNEDY, WHEN HIS CAR WAS STOLEN AND HE REMINDED ME THAT A DIFFERENT TERMINOLOGY FOR THIS PARTICULAR SECTION.
SO I SENT TO YOU A LETTER, WHICH EXPLAINED THAT, AND WHICH INCLUDED TWO VERSIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE, ONE WHICH INCLUDED AUTO COMMERCIAL AND NONCOMMERCIAL.
AND THE SECOND ONE SAID THAT AUTO REPAIR, WHICH PERMITTED IF CALL IT BELONGED TO A RESTAURANT OR A APPRENTICE.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU ADOPT.
YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS PROBABLY CAME ABOUT, I THINK, BECAUSE OF A SITUATION I HAD IN ONE OF MY NEIGHBORHOODS AND MY AWARD TO WHERE THE PEOPLE PARKED TWO OR THREE LONG TRUCKS OUT IN FRONT, THEY PULLED UP, UH, CHIPPERS AND THE LOG TRUCKS AND THE DRIVE TO REPAIR THEM.
THE GUY THAT LIVED THERE WITH A MECHANIC FOR HIM, THAT CAR PORT IS, IS JUST LOADED WITH, UH, AUTOMOTIVE PARTS AND JUNK.
AND THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT IT.
AND SO, UH, PART OF THIS IS, IS BECAUSE OF THIS SITUATION, I HAVE TWO OR THREE OF THOSE IN SIX WARDS THAT I'M TRYING TO HAVE TO WORK OUT.
AND THIS, THIS OWNERS WILL CORRECT THAT THE ONE HE RECOMMENDS IS THE ONE WHO WOULD TAKE CARE OF MS. CRAZY.
AFTER THAT, WE'RE NOT AFTER THE HOMEOWNER, I WORKING ON HIS CAR OR CHANGING HIS ALL OR WHATEVER WE HAVE TO SOMEBODY THAT LIVES AT IS REPAIRING SOMEBODY ELSE'S EQUIPMENT.
WELL, S OH, MY BACK IS THE FIRST THING WE TALKED ABOUT, OTHER THAN BUSINESS.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK FOR, OR AGAINST THAT? HOW ABOUT FOR IT FOR I LIVE AT 1709 FEDERAL STREET, AND I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1967.
WHEN YOU SAY COMMERCIAL LAKERS MAYOR, MR. BOARD, YOUR YOUTH COMMITTING ANYTHING FROM A PICKUP OR TO A BAND.
IF IT'S GOT A COMMERCIAL TAG ON IT'S A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE.
IF YOU, IF YOU, ARE YOU GOING TO EXCLUDE THOSE THINGS? I MIGHT HAVE YOU TAKE A ONE 50 FORD PICKUP LICENSE TODAY.
THE LIMIT WOULD EITHER BE A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE OR LESS THAN
YOU PUT THE NEED FOR YOU IN THAT PICKUP UP.
I WROTE UP A MARSHAL TAG ON THE, ON OCCASION.
IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD IT, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE, I'M JUST IN THE SAME CAGE.
MAR WAS IN HER VAN OVER THERE AND HER LITTLE TRAILER FOR HER TO REST.
SHE THAT
SO IT'S A PHYSICAL MARTIAL TAG.
IF IT'S
WHAT DOES THIS ORDINANCE, WHOEVER, WHAT NOT ALLOW A PERSON TO DRIVE, SAY A PICKUP TRUCK.
UM, YOU CAN'T MAKE ILLEGAL WITH A PICK UP.
UM, WE WERE NOT THINKING, UM, THE GENTLEMAN STICKING UP HERE IN THE DRAGON
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BUT I MAY ASK YOU SOMETHING, I SUPPOSE, THE GUY AUTO CAR STOLEN DIONNE, AND HE DRIVE THE PICKUP TRUCK AND HE SAYING HE COULDN'T DRIVE HIS TRUCK, HAD HIM DO HIS OWN THE HOUSES.HE SAID, STONEWARE ON THE SIDE.
HE CAN'T BE IN THE FRONT YARD AT THE SIDE YARD OR REAR YARD.
MR. MAYOR, WHICH EXCLUDE A PICKUP TRUCK.
MAY I READ WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT?
ARE YOU SAYING THEN THAT THE CAR THAT I HAVE PARKED ON THE SIDE OF MY HOUSE COULD NOT BE POCKET ON THE STREET? WELL, ACTUALLY I THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT? THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST MADE A COMMENT THAT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES NEED TO BE DEFINED.
I AGREE WITH HIM BECAUSE OTHERWISE I GOT A CAR WITH MY PICKUP TRUCK ON THE SIDE OF MY HOUSE.
I CAN PUT IT ON THE SIDE OF MY HOUSE AND IT SITS THERE UNTIL I'M GOING TO HOOK IT UP TO MY TRUCK AND THEN I PULL IT OFF.
SO YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY, WELL I'M FINE.
BUT HOW ABOUT MY TRUCK? HOW ABOUT MY TRUCK THAT HAD, WELL, I THINK, UH, THERE'S A LORD'S COMMENT ABOUT AT THE TIME, OF COURSE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH
I KNOW A LAWYER WHO DRIVES A MERCEDES-BENZ, BUT HE HAS COMMERCIAL TAGS.
AND THE REASON HE HAS COMMERCIAL TAGS IS THAT HE SAYS, WHEN HE GOES TO FEDERAL COURT, HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN THE LOADING ZONE.
IT'S NOT ME, BUT WE NEEDED TO FIND THAT IT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE THAT MAX WANTS TO READ SOMETHING OVER HERE.
AND I WISH, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD OR HAVE HAD YOU HAVE YOU READ WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? DO YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S IN IT? NONE OF US DO THESE PEOPLE DON'T APPARENTLY WON'T AND READ, BUT LISTEN TO THIS PARKING AND STORAGE OUTSIDE IN A SUBSTANTIALLY ENCLOSED STRUCTURE, PARKING OR STORAGE OUTSIDE A OUTSIDE A SUBSTANTIALLY ENCLOSED STRUCTURE, A BUILDING OF ANY MOTOR HOME BOAT OR OTHER RECREATIONAL VEHICLE BETWEEN THE FRONT BUILDING LINE, THE FRONT LINE OF YOUR HOUSE AND THE STREET ON WHICH THE LOT FRONTS, THE PROHIBITED VEHICLES INCLUDE TRAILERS AND COMMERCIAL VEHICLES.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU HAVE COMPANY COME TO VISIT YOU IN A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE.
IF THEY PARK IT IN YOUR DRIVEWAY, IN FRONT OF THE FRONT LINE OF YOUR HOUSE.
AND I THINK THAT'S GETTING PRETTY MUCH LIKE A POLICE STATE.
I THINK IT'S GETTING A LITTLE TOO DICEY.
I MEAN, MAYBE YOU DON'T, BUT I THINK IT'S GETTING, I THINK IT'S GETTING PRETTY STRICT.
WHAT DO YOU, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF RULES WILL COME TO PASS NEXT? IS THIS, YOU GOT TO PLANT RED FLOWERS AND CAN'T PLANT YELLOW FLOWERS.
MR. MAN, MAYBE WE SHOULD TABLE THIS AND PUT IT ON DISCUSSION WITH THE, I WAS GONNA SAY, THIS SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THAT HAS EVOLVED.
I'M GOING TO SEE HIM TO FIX SOME SPECIFIC THINGS AND PERHAPS IT'S GROWN INTO SOMETHING THAT'S DONE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE INTENDED TO SOMEBODY INTENDED TO DO WITH IT.
AGREEABLE WITH MY INTENT WAS TO CLEAN UP THE FRONT YARDS FOR, FROM RUNNING A BUSINESS.
THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT A MESS OVER THERE.
WELL, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, YOU CAN REALLY, I MEAN, REALLY I'LL RE I'LL EVEN AGREE WITH TANA MYSELF, BUT A MAN DRIVING A PICKUP.
I HATE TO SEE A MAN PULL UP ON A POROUS 16 FOOT BED OR 14 FOOT BED.
IF IT'S A MORE FAMILIAR VEHICLE, WE DON'T NEED TO BE PARTNERING WITH YARD OR IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
YOU GOT A BUSINESS, YOU CAN FUND IT OUT OF SOMEWHERE TO FUNNY THAT, WELL, WE NEED A DEFINITION FOR COMMERCIAL
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VEHICLES FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE.ONLY WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT WELL, IF WE CAN TABLE IT TO BE DISCUSSED ALSO WITH THE, UH, UH, WE'RE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SAYING IT MORE THAN WE USED TO MEET IT TODAY, MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, AYE.
I THINK WE NEED TO GET, GIVE THIS MATTER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
LET HIM, UH, CLEAN IT UP AND BRING IT BACK BEFORE.
WELL, LET'S DO THIS LESS, LESS TELL THE CITY ATTORNEY WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT HIM TO DO SO HE CAN WRITE THE LANE WAS THE DEAL.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO A MAN MAKING A SUGGESTION.
I THINK COMMERCIAL VEHICLES SHOULD BE DEFINED TO EXCLUDE PICKUP TRUCKS CAN BE PICKED UP JUST LIKE OTHER AUTOMOBILES.
WHAT ABOUT VANS? WHAT ABOUT MANS? MOSTLY ICELAND.
DO WE NEED AND WHAT THE BOARD WANTS TO DO? THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVE THOSE.
WE CALL THEM TRIP VANS, YOU KNOW, AND SEE WHAT IT IS WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND THEN WE'LL GET HIM TO PUT THE LINES INSIDE IF WE CAN DO IT.
I'M MAKING INSTEAD OF THIS BROAD AND WE'LL GET A DECISION TONIGHT OR THIS PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION UNTIL WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT? CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.
NEXT THING IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, I LIKE TO TAKE ONE ITEM OFF IT'S SIMILAR JUMP NUMBER 12, NOT BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
I'D LIKE TO PULL NUMBER 10 OFF JEFF TO DISCUSS VERY BRIEFLY.
WE'VE GOT 7, 8, 9, 11, 13, 14, AND 15 REMAINING.
I DO WANT TO CONSIDER GENDER TO BE A DOCTOR.
MAY I MAKE ONE COMMENT 15 IDENTIFIES THIS AS AN OPTION.
IN FACT, IT'S A CONTRACT PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY.
WE'RE ASKING CONTRACTED APPROVED.
WE'LL ROLL ON THAT PLEASE, MATE.
UM, NUMBER 10 WAS ADOPTED, HAS THIS MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM ORDINANCE, AND I JUST WANTED TO PULL IT OUT SO THAT IT CAN BE KNOWN TO THE COMMUNITY OF WOODROW AND DUFFY FIELD.
WHO'S BEEN CALLING ME SINCE WE SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR THIS GRANT.
SO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT IT IS NOW APPROVED.
WE DO NOW HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE RELOCATION AND THE ELEVATION OF THOSE HOMES.
THE HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS FOR THE WORK IN THE PAVEY TOWN AREA, WHICH HAS ACQUISITIONS, RELOCATIONS, I THINK SOME ELEVATION AND ALSO RETROFITTING THE PUMP STATION DOWN AT TRYON PALACE TO FLOOD PROOF.
IT, UH, WE STILL HAVE NOT GOTTEN FINAL APPROVAL BACK ON THE WOODROW PROGRAM.
UH IT'S UH, IT'S LOOKING GOOD.
IT'S GONE FROM THE STATE TO, TO FEMA APPROVAL AND WE'RE EXPECTING SOMETHING, UH, IN THE, NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE ON THAT, BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN FUN.
WHEN YOU SAY NOT JUST THE FEATURE, HOW FAR IS THAT? W W WE'RE HOPING WE'RE LOOKING AT WEEKS INSTEAD OF YEARS, SEVERAL MONTHS.
UH, I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT WEEKS SINCE IT HAS PASSED THE STATE AND GONE TO THE FEDS.
I NOTICED HERE THAT IT SAYS THAT IT SAID DUFFY FIELD AND WOODROW.
SO YOU SAY THAT IN THERE, APPARENTLY I BOUGHT IT THAT'S OKAY.
SO THAT'S MISLEADING, BUT, BUT IT IS READY FOR DUFFY FIELD.
THIS IS, THIS IS PAGE DOWN AND THE PUMP STATION AND ALL THE WOODROW.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK OUR INITIAL REQUEST WAS LIKE 1.3 MILLION THAT HAS BEEN INCREASED 2.4 MILLION, RIGHT BY FEMA.
AND, UH, THEY ARE REQUIRING THE HOUSES THAT WERE ELEVATED, THE ELEVATED AN ADDITIONAL TWO TO THREE FEET.
AND SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT THEY BOUGHT IT, THE INCREASE IN FUNDING WAS THEIR IDEA THAT TO GET THE HOUSE UP A BIT FURTHER.
SO IF WE WERE A POSITIVE ABOUT IT AND ALL THE I'S AND CROSS THE T'S ON IT.
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OKAY.IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO HURRY UP? I THINK WE CAN REMIND THEM THAT HURRICANE SEASON IT WILL BECOME, HE HAS TO JACK THEM UP FOR WHEN WE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE FREEBOARD BEFORE HURRICANE.
WE'LL CHECK ON THAT AND LET YOU KNOW SOMETHING, ANY APPOINTMENTS HE NEEDS TO ADOPT NEW ORDINANCE TOPIC TO NEED TO MOVE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION CALL THE ROLL THAT ONE PLEASE.
UH, ONE THING UNDER APPOINTMENTS, IT SEEMS I KEEP SEEING THE SAME PEOPLE RECYCLED AND I DID NOT KNOW IF WE SHOULD PUT AN AD IN THE PAPER THAT PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERESTED IN BEING APPOINTED TO THE VARIOUS COMMITTEE OPENINGS AS THEY COME UP, PLEASE NOTIFY CITY HALL OR WHAT, UH, BUT AREN'T, YOU OCCASIONALLY HAVE SOME NAMES.
DON'T YOU? DO YOU HAVE ANY NOW? YEAH, WELL, I WAS JUST, I JUST SEE THE SAME PEOPLE GOING FROM ONE COMMITTEE TO ANOTHER AND, AND, UH, THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO GET NEW IDEAS AND NEW BLOOD.
AND, UM, I JUST THOUGHT I'D THROW THAT OUT.
MAY I LIKE TO TURN A TEAM MORE TO THE APPEARANCE COMMITTEE, UH, TO REPLACE MR.
UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE LORD'S, UH, APPROVAL TO, UH, MAKE A REQUEST TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, TO DO A TRAFFIC SURVEY AT NOUS AND RACETRACK ROAD.
UH, WE NEED A STOP LIGHT THERE OR SOME KIND OF, UH, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL SIGNAL.
UH, THE AREA IS GROWING SO FAST.
AND WHEN YOU LEAVE, COME OUT OF RACETRACK ROAD WITH ALL COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND SO FORTH ON THAT ROAD, THAT YOU, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN LEFT AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR ACCIDENT THERE.
ONE OF THESE DAYS WITH, UH, IF WE DON'T APPLY SOME TRAFFIC CONTROL SIGNAL THERE, UH, IT WAS, I WAS, UH, I THINK IT, WE, WHAT WE NEED IS A TRAFFIC SURVEY DONE BY A PROFESSIONAL.
AND I THINK THAT MAYBE THE DLT CAN DO THAT AT NO COST TO THE CITY.
IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO MAKE THAT REQUEST, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO THAT BEFORE SOMEBODY, BEFORE WE HAVE A FATALITY THERE, CAN I GET THE BOARD TO APPROVE THAT? YES.
FIRST THING YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS PULL OUT THE RAILROAD TRACKS THERE.
WELL, THERE'S SO MUCH TRAVELING YOUR SIDE MARTIAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEY'RE PUTTING MORE HOMES IN THERE NOW, SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A CONTINUAL GROWTH IN THE TRAFFIC.
SO WE NEED SOME TYPE OF TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICE THERE.
SO IN THE CITY STAFF DO MAKE THE REQUEST FOR THE TRAFFIC SURVEY.
I SAW DANNY WRITE IT DOWN AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
UH, NO, I HAVE ONE OTHER THING, BUT SINCE HE TAUGHT THEM ABOUT TRAFFIC SITUATION, LIKE WASHINGTON POST ROAD, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT.
WE'VE ALREADY MADE THAT RECURRENCE.
WHICH ONE DID YOU SAY? A WASHINGTON POST WROTE, LIKE GOING OUT TOWARDS MY HOUSE IS A LOT OF CONGESTION.
UH, MY CONCERN TONIGHT IS ABOUT THE DOLPHINS AGAIN.
AND WE SAID, I TOLD YOU THAT I HAD A PROBLEM WITH THESE BULLDOGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY WERE RUNNING LOOSE, BUT THEY DID ATTACK SOMEONE.
AND, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ADDRESS OUTWARDNESS AS IT REGARDS DOLL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A WORK SESSION OR SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TWO OF THOSE TWO LITTLE DOLLS I TELL YOU ABOUT BEFORE THE ATTACK, THE LADY WAS WALKING IN THE MORNING THAT WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
WE DO HAVE THE ONE THAT SAYS, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY USUALLY COME, THEY CALL ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER AND THEY COME AND OFTENTIMES THEY'LL SAY, WELL, AS LONG AS THEY GOT THE CHAIN KIND OF THING.
ANYWAY, I SPOKE TO THE CHIEF TONIGHT AND HE'S GOING TO LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION.
I THINK THAT WE NEED FOR OUR OWN BENEFITS TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR WITNESSES AND SEE IF THEY, IF THEY'RE REAL, REALLY ASSISTIVE, AS THEY NEED TO BE TO THE PEOPLE.
THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE WALKING NEIGHBORHOODS NOWADAYS THAN THERE MAYBE WAS A LONG TIME AGO.
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NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO BE DONE.YOU HAVE TWO BULLDOGS WHO GET THE RIGHT TO ROAM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST A FEW YARDS FROM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND THE CHIEF BRING US SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD TICKLE ME TO DEATH TO SEE PUT A $50,000 INSURANCE POLICY REQUIREMENT ON A DOG AFTER THE FIRST BITE.
LET HIM HAVE THAT FIRST BITE WELL, IN LIKE MR. MR. WARD WILL TELL YOU A DOLL IS USUALLY ENTITLED LITTLE BIKES, BUT IF HE BITES TWICE, HE'S IN DEEP TROUBLE, BUT I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING THE HEFTY, HEFTY LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICY REQUIRED OF OWNERS OF DOGS WITH A HISTORY OF BITING TO THE POINT THAT IT REQUIRED MEDICAL TREATMENT.
PEOPLE PINNED UP AND GET RID OF US.
I WANT TO, I WANT TO SAY, I WANT TO DANNY TO ADD THE, UH, OAKS ROAD, UH, SIMMONS STREET INTERSECTION TO THAT STOPLIGHT SURVEY.
OH, IT'S GETTING, IT'S GETTING NASTY.
WHAT, UH, WHERE, UH, PATTERN IS ADDING PEOPLE AND THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE AT THAT TIME OF DAY IS VICIOUS.
WHEN THAT, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THEY LET OUT ALSO ON THIS PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE BY THE PEOPLE FROM, UH, COASTAL AREA MANAGEMENT ACT FROM A COASTAL RESOURCES COMMISSION.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I WENT OUT TO THEIR MEETING AT NAGS HEAD, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF OPPOSITION THERE TO THE LAW, TO THE REGULATION CHANGE, AS IT IS NOW STATED THAT WE, THE ENVIRONMENTALIST SEEM TO THINK THAT THE OPPOSITION IS BASICALLY FROM THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, THAT MOLDS TO BE ABLE TO BUILD RIGHT ON THE WATER.
I SEE THE OPPOSITION AS BEING, WE CAN'T CLEAN UP THE RIVERS DOWN HERE, NO MATTER WHAT LAWS YOU PUT INTO EFFECT, UNLESS THEY GO FURTHER UPSTREAM.
BUT WITH JUST 20 EASTERN COUNTIES UNDER THE LAW, THE TRIAL, THE TRASH IS COMING DOWN.
THE STREAM THAT THAT THE, THE LAW HAS TO BE EXPANDED UNDER THE, THE PROPOSED LAW, THE 575 FOOT SETBACK FOR AREAS OF ENVIRONMENTAL OF SPECIAL ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN.
THE COASTAL RESOURCES COMMISSION PEOPLE SAID, THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW MUCH LAND THAT WILL INVOLVE HOW MUCH LAND THAT WILL COVER.
THEY DO NOT HAVE THE PEOPLE TO DO IT.
AND IT WOULD INCLUDE ANY BODY OF WATER THAT WOULD FLOAT THE CANOE.
NOW THAT TAKES TWO INCHES OF WATER, TWO FEET WIDE, AND THESE LAWS WOULD APPLY EITHER THE REGULAR SETBACK.
INSTEAD, IN FACT, NOW 200 FEET OF 575 FEET, WHICHEVER THEY DECIDED NOW THESE, THIS LAW WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REWRITTEN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES.
THE FIRST THIS MUNICIPALITY HEARD ABOUT IT WAS WHEN THEY MADE THAT 20 MINUTE PRESENTATION.
THE FIRST TIME WE HEARD ABOUT IT, NOW THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF OPPOSITION.
AND WE VOTED TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE MAYOR, TO THE GOVERNOR, TO OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION, CRC, AND ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE UP THERE THAT WE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THIS LAW, THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN.
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE SOME OF THE AREAS, TRAMP, UH, TRENT RIVER, SOME OF THE NEUSE RIVER AREAS, SOME OF THE CREEKS, NOTHING COULD BE BUILT WITHIN 575 FEET OFF ANY STREAM LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD FLOW TO CANOE.
AND IT DOESN'T EVEN SAY IF IT HAS TO BE ANYBODY IN THE CANOE.
I MEAN, SEE, THE LAW IS THAT VAGUE.
AND THEY SAY THEY'RE GRANDFATHERING IN SOME PROPERTIES, BUT THEN THEY SAY THERE WILL BE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THE GRANDFATHERING.
AND WHEN ONE OF US ASKS WHAT RESTRICTIONS THEY SAY, WE DON'T KNOW, WE HAVEN'T WRITTEN THEM YET.
THEY WANT TO PASS THE LAW THEN RIGHT? THE GRANDFATHER REGULATIONS.
SO ANYWAY, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION FOR AN AREA THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED LIKE NEWBURN, THAT'S TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE RIVER.
THEY MENTIONED NEWBURN SPECIFICALLY IN CONNECTION WITH THE WAY WE'RE TRYING TO DISPOSE OF OUR WASTEWATER EFFLUENT.
BUT, UH, IT, IT MEANS VERY BAD THINGS.
IF THAT LAW IS PASSED AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY ONE OF OUR LEGISLATORS AND EVERYBODY ELSE UP THERE IS VERY MUCH AWARE THAT IT, IT, IT WOULD KILL OUR DEVELOPMENT, INDUSTRIALLY, COMMERCIALLY AND RESIDENTIALLY, HURRICANE BLOW YOUR HOUSE DOWN.
CAN YOU BUILD IT BACK IF YOU WITHIN SO
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MANY FEET OF THE RIVER, THAT'S IT? YEAH.I JUST HAVE ONE BRIEF REQUEST.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FIRST HUMAN RIGHTS ADVOCATES WAS FROM RIGHT HERE IN NEW BERN, NORTH CAROLINA, HIS NAME WAS WILLIAM GASTON.
WE, THEM GHASSAN WAS BORN IN 1778 AND HE DIED IN 1844.
AND, UH, HE WAS AN AMERICAN JURIST, AN ADVOCATE FOR POLITICAL RIGHTS FOR BLACKS AND, AND ROMAN CATHOLICS.
HE SERVED WITH DISTINCTION AS A FEDERALIST IN NORTH CAROLINA AND, AND, UM, IN A NORTHLAND SENATE RATHER.
AND IN, AND IN THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, HE WAS A CATHOLIC AND HE HELPED PERSUADE NORTH CAROLINA TO, UH, GIVE THE BOAT TO ROMAN CATHOLICS.
AND IN THE 1832, WILLIAM GASTON EXPRESSED THE HOPES THAT SLAVERY WOULD ONE DAY BE ABOLISHED.
AND HE WAS A JUSTICE OF THE NORTHBOUND SUPREME COURT.
AND HE DECLARED AS A JUSTICE THAT, UM, FREE BLACKS WERE CITIZENS IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND, UH, HE WAS BORN IN NEW BERLIN AGAIN, AND HE GRADUATED FROM PRINCETON UNIVERSITY.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, UH, JUST BASED ON HIS ACCOMPLISHMENT, HE'S WORTHY OF SOMETHING TO MEMORIAL MEMORIALIZE HIM.
AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS BOARD A POOL APPROVE RATHER THAN A RESOLUTION BE DRAFTED TO SEND TO THE GOVERNOR AND TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, TO ONE NAME OF THE NEW BRIDGE, THE WILLIAM GASTON MEMORIAL BRIDGE, I THINK IT WOULD BE FITTING.
AND, UM, I THINK HE'S WORTHY OF HAVING THIS BRIDGE NAME TO MEMORIALIZE HIM.
I'LL ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO ASK HIM THAT THE BOARD A POOF, A RESOLUTION TO BE DRAFTED, TO NAME THE ASS, TO GOVERN, TO NAME, TO RECOMMEND NAMING THE BRIDGE AFTER WILLIAM GASTON, BECAUSE OF HIS, HIS BEING A STATESMAN AND, UH, ONE OF THE FIRST HUMAN RIGHTS ADVOCATE IN THIS STATE, PERHAPS IN THIS COUNTRY WAY, THIS CAME ABOUT, I BROUGHT THIS UP.
THIS IS A PAGE OUT OF AN OLD ENCYCLOPEDIA.
HAD ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS RECOMMENDED MY WIFE THE OTHER DAY AND WAS TALKING ABOUT NAMING OF THE BREAD.
AND HE HAD ATTENDED SOME PROGRAM THAT ADDRESSED THEIR COMPREHENSIVE WAY OF GASOLINE.
I TOOK A LOOK AT THIS AND DECIDED TO BE BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD TO ME, PROBABLY READ MOST OF IT, BUT YOU READ ALL OF IT.
HOW WAS IMPRESSED WITH MR. WARD RECOMMENDATION? SO FOR SURE, AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A GUEST IN HIS OFFICE WITH YOU ON CITY HALL PROPERTY.
HIS HOME IS RIGHT DOWN
SO YOU BRING IN THAT AREA AND HIS PICTURES HANGING DOWN AT THE SUPREME COURT RIGHT HERE IN NEWBURGH.
I COME, I DON'T HAVE A HEARING THE PROMINENT JUDGES LAWYERS.
WELL, WE CAN NAME IT AFTER YOU, BUT TO NOW I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.
I WANT MY NAME, THE NAME AFTER YOU, BUT IT'D BE THE KISS OF DEATH.
I THINK IF YOU WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR SUGGESTIONS, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I, I THINK THIS IS TOO HARD.
I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN AT THE END OF ONE MEETING, SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE RULING BODY OF THE CITY OF NEWBURN WANTS TO SUGGEST.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ACCEPT SUGGESTIONS FROM OTHER PLACES.
OTHER PEOPLE OFFICIALLY TOSS HIS NAME IN OUR POT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH HIS NAME BEING IN THE REST OF THEM ALL WE'RE GOING TO DO.
I MEAN, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALREADY GOT A NAME.
IT'S THE FREEDOM OF THE WORLD.
AND THEN IF IT FEEL WE JUST TOSS THE NAMES, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DRAFT THE RESOLUTION TO SEND TO THE GOVERNOR, NAMING ASKING HIM AND D O T TO NAME THE NEW BRIDGE, THE WILLIAM GASTON MEMORIAL PROVIDENCE CASH, I GUESS WE'RE ROLLING.
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NO, NO, NO.WELL GOING ALMOST LIKE NO TO NOT JUST CAUSE I'M AGAINST HATE TO BE PREMATURE.
IF SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH A BETTER IDEA NEXT WEEK AND WE HADN'T TOLD THEM ABOUT IT, BUT I, WELL, I AGREE WITH MAX, WE ALL GET SOME OTHER FEEDS, OTHER SUGGESTIONS I'M NOT AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR ONE NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T GET ANY BETTER SUGGESTIONS, SO I'D BE ALL FOR IT.
BUT, UH, WE WERE HITTING REAL COLD AND FAST WITH THIS ABOUT REALLY BEING ABLE TO GIVE IT A LOT OF FALL, JUST TO BRING IT TO THESE TENSIONS.
WHAT ELSE? WE'LL BE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS.