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THE MEETING TO ORDER BEFORE WE GET SNOWED IN HERE.
AND WE'LL, UH, ASK OPEN IN PRAYER BY DR.
STEPHEN COBB OF THE TEMPLE BAPTIST CHURCH.
YOU'VE COME FORWARD TO THE, TO THE SPEAKER SO THAT FOLKS AT HOME CAN FATHER IN HEAVEN.
WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO MEET TOGETHER.
I AM HONORED TO BE ASKED TO PRAY TO YOU ON BEHALF OF THIS MEETING, BUT I'M EVEN MORE HONORED THAT THEY WON'T HAVE PRAYER FOR THIS MEETING.
I BELIEVE THIS IS A GREAT CITY FATHER BEING A NEW CITIZEN OF NEWBURN.
I SEE IT FROM ONE COMING IN, LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LIVE.
AND AS I RIDE THROUGH THE STREETS AND I LOOK AROUND, I SEE A LOT OF WORK.
A LOT OF HANDIWORK SEE PRIDE AND CARE TAKEN IN THE CITY.
I BELIEVE IT'S BECAUSE OF SOME OF THESE HERE WHO HAVE TAKEN SUCH INITIATIVE THAT WE, AS THE CITIZENS, ENJOY WHAT WE ENJOY.
I THANK YOU FOR THE FACT THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR PUBLIC SERVICE.
THEY HAVE MANY IMPORTANT MATTERS TO DISCUSS SOME MORE EMOTIONALLY CHARGED THAN OTHERS, BUT ALL THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
AND FATHER, THEY COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT SEEKING WISDOM.
AND SO I PRAY THAT YOU HOVER OVER THESE PROCEEDINGS, THAT YOU WILL GIVE THAT DIVINE WISDOM AND GUIDANCE THAT THEY NEED.
I PRAY THAT YOU BRING THEM INTO UNITY AND I'M FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITIZENS.
SO TO THAT END, WE COMMIT THIS MEETING AND WE LIFT IT TO YOU IN CONFIDENCE.
AND THE ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO PRAY IN THE PRECIOUS NAME OF JESUS, AMEN.
I ASKED HER, HOW DO YOU LIKE YOU? I KNOW YOU'RE RELATIVELY NEW TO OUR TOWN, BUT UH, EVERYTHING GOING TO SUIT YOU GLAD TO GET YOU WERE IN ASHEVILLE, I BELIEVE BEFORE.
RIGHT? SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU DOWN HERE IN GOD'S COUNTRY.
I LIVE IN, I ASKED HER FOR AWHILE.
THEY WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR GOOD WORDS.
WE'LL TRY TO LIVE UP TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS.
AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL PRAYER TOO.
I LOOK AFTER MY QUERY FOR US AND GAVE YOU, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO OUR DUTY TONIGHT.
UH, GO THROUGH THINGS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, BECAUSE SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE MOVED HERE FROM UP NORTH, I THINK IS RIDICULOUS.
BUT SOMEBODY WHO WAS A BORN HE'D GET AFRAID.
WHEN WE SAY A COUPLE OF FLIGHTS, WE GET EXCITED.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SOMEDAY, SOMEDAY I'LL DRAW ON MY 30 YEARS AS A WEATHERMAN ON TV AND TELL YOU WHY WE'RE AFRAID OF IT DOWN HERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO ON A, ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE IS WE LOST, UH, ONE OF OUR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEMBERS, UH, HERE THIS WEEKEND.
AND, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT THIS GENTLEMEN WAS, UH, WAS JUST AN OUTSTANDING PERSON.
AND IN FACT, HE WAS A FRIEND OF, ONE OF MY FRIENDS AND THE GUY TALKED ABOUT HIM QUITE A BIT SATURDAY WHEN I WAS WITH HIM.
SO WE'D LIKE TO OBSERVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR MR. MICHAEL DE SWANK, WHO PASSED AWAY THIS WEEKEND ON SATURDAY, MIKE, YOU LEFT THINGS AS ALL OF US WOULD LIKELY THINGS
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THAT MESS WITH GOOD THINGS OUT OF BAD AND GOOD MEMORIES.SO WAS HE WITH THE CD MILL? WELL, HE WAS ON THE PLANET AND HE WAS ONE OF THE CITIZENS THAT THE PASTOR WAS TALKING TONIGHT ABOUT THE PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR PUBLIC SERVICE AND SO FORTH.
AND I TELL YOU WHAT, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS TAKEN WHEN WE HAD THE MOMENT OF SILENCE AND METRONOME AT THAT CLOCK, BUT I'M 54.
AND I HEAR THAT THING SOMETIMES.
AND SOME OF THE REST OF THEM, YOU DON'T.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT MR SWAIN DID BY GIVING HIM HIS VALUABLE TIME TO HELP US OUT.
SO HE'LL BE REMEMBERED KINDLY BY THE CITY.
SO THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IN MIND IS OUR MONTHLY REPORT BY DAVID MUSE, THE GOOD NEWS, WE ALL HOPE YES, SIR.
THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THREE DID A TOTAL OF HUNDRED POINT A HUNDRED, 3.4 MILLION GALLONS OF WASTEWATER IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY, THAT AVERAGES OUT TO A DAILY FLOW OF 3.3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
MAXIMUM A DAY OF THE MONTH WAS 3.8 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
UH, THE BOD EFFICIENCY REMOVAL WAS 94% AND THE SUSPENDED SOLIDS REMOVAL EFFICIENCY WAS 88%.
THE FIRST QUARTER PHOSPHORUS AVERAGE IS AT 1.37 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER.
ALL OF THESE PARAMETERS ARE WITHIN OUR, UH, NPDS PERMIT LIMITATIONS.
UH, THE PLANT IS IN COMPLIANCE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
UM, THE SECOND THING THAT I WANTED TO UPDATE THE BOARD ON IS A FAR GRASS ON THE MARTIN MARIETTA, UH, FOR A PROJECT, UM, RIVERS AND ASSOCIATES, WHO IS CONTRACTING ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT AS SUBMITTED, UH, AT THE END OF THIS WEEK, WE'LL SUBMIT AT THE END OF THIS WEEK, THE FINAL THING THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED FROM THE STATE, WHICH IS THAT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT, UH, CONCERNING THE, UH, COREY, UH, WE HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION IN VARIOUS FORMS, UM, THROUGH SEVERAL REPORTS THAT WE'VE SENT AND EVERYBODY THAT EACH AGENCY THAT WE GO TO ONCE IT IN THEIR OWN FORM.
SO THEY'RE HAVING TO REPACKAGE IT IN A DIFFERENT FORM AND SEND IT UP.
UM, WE ARE HOPING TO, UH, HAVE A MEETING WITH THE STATE, UH, IN APPROXIMATELY THREE WEEKS TO SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS WITH THEM, UH, NOT ONLY THE FUNDING, UH, FOR A GRANT, UM, BUT ALSO TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT PERMITTING, UH, OF THIS PROJECT.
UH, AND HOPEFULLY BY NEXT BOARD MEETING, UH, NEXT TIME I COME BEFORE WITH US, FOR YOU WITH A SORT SEWER REPORT OUT, I'LL BE ABLE TO UPDATE YOU ON, UH, THEIR CONVERSATIONS AT THAT MEETING.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME? YES.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU WERE MADE AWARE OF THE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED, IT I'LL FEEL FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT.
UH, IN FACT, I HAVE CONTACTED, UH, MR. PETE THOMAS AND DISCUSS WITH HIM.
THE MANAGER ASKED ME TO CONTACT HIM IN PARTICULAR.
UM, WELL WE PROPOSE TO DO FROM THE COMMENTS AT THAT MEETING IS NUMBER ONE, INFORM OUR HAULERS THAT THERE IS A SPEED LIMIT OF 25 MILES PER HOUR ON THAT ROAD.
UM, AND THE SECOND THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WRITE A LETTER TO, TO THE RESIDENTS ON, UM, GLENBURNIE ROAD AND TELL THEM EXACTLY WHAT OUR HAULING SCHEDULE IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND IN THAT LETTER, WE'RE ALSO ARE GOING TO ADDRESS, UM, THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANY OF THE OPERATION OF THE PLANT.
UM, SOME OF THE CHANGE IN THE ODOR THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SMELLING, MAYBE.
UM, AND I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE, UH, BUT IT'S PROBABLY A RESULT OF A CHANGE IN WIND DIRECTION, UM, OVER THE LAST THREE WEEKS MONTH OR SO.
UM, MY PLANT MANAGER HAS SAID THAT SHE HAS NOTICED THAT SHE HAS ON OCCASION BEGUN TO SMELL, UM, WAREHOUSES, UH, PO WORD PAPER PLANT, WHICH SHE VERY RARELY CAN SMELL.
SO THAT TELLS ME THAT WIND'S BLOWING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAN IT DOES NORMALLY, UH, OPERATION HASN'T CHANGED.
AND NONE OF THE, NONE OF THE OPERATORS IN THE PLANT HAVE NOTICED ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE NORMAL ODOR OF THE PLANT.
THERE IS ANOTHER, UH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER THE WIND BLOWING WHERE IT ACTUALLY GOES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR NOT IS I BELIEVE WHAT THE CASE IS.
AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO UPGRADE AND TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO, UM, INFORM THEM THAT MS
IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL GIVE THEM HER
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NAME AND TELEPHONE NUMBER SO THAT IF THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS, THEY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT THEY CAN CALL AND CONTACT IMMEDIATELY.I APPRECIATE THAT CONCERNING THE PLANT ITSELF, WITHOUT REGARD TO THE MARTIN MARIETTA PROPERTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A MAJOR RENOVATION OF THE PLANT, WHICH WILL SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THE NITROGEN LIMIT AND CLEAN UP THE EFFLUENT.
WILL THIS HAVE AN EFFECT, UH, OF ANY CONSEQUENCE ON ANY ODOR PROBLEM OR JUST ON THE QUALITY OF THE WATER THAT COMES OUT ITSELF? I GUESS THE SAME MATERIALS GOING IN, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT.
UH, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO, UH, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SAY WHAT I, WHAT I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE, I HAVE BEEN TO OTHER WASTEWATER PLANTS THAT ARE PRESENTLY USING THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE GOING TO RENOVATE OUR PLANT TO.
AND AT THAT THERE IS STILL THE SAME BASIC ODOR, UH, THAT YOU HAVE.
THE, THE DIFFERENCE THAT I CAN ANSWER IS THAT WE WILL BE DOING A DIGESTION PROCESS WITH OUR SLUDGE, THAT NONE OF THE PLANTS I'VE BEEN TO, UH, DO IT IN THAT MANNER RIGHT NOW, UH, WE ARE PRESENTLY DOING IT, UH, A CLOSED CONTAINER, UH, TREATMENT OF OUR SLUDGE, WHICH IS THEN PRODUCES METHANE, WHICH IS BURNED.
AND THAT OF COURSE PRODUCES NO LOADER.
THE, UM, SLUDGE THAT WE WILL PRODUCE IN THE FUTURE WILL BE STORED IN OPEN CONTAINERS.
AND IT IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN WHAT WE DO NOW.
UM, AND I JUST CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE ODOR WILL BE.
I, I CANNOT IMAGINE IT BEING MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
UM, I'VE BEEN IN, LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROCESSES AND THEY ALL HAVE A STALE MUSTY ODOR, BUT NOTHING THAT'S PUNGENT.
UH, THERE ARE PROCESSES THAT PRODUCE A VERY PUNGENT AMMONIA ODOR, UH, WITHIN A COUPLE OF HUNDRED YARDS OF A POINT.
UH, BUT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO GO TO THAT TYPE PROCESS WHERE YOU WOULD NOTICE THAT ANYWHERE OFF THE PLANT GROUNDS.
SO I'M GOING TO SAY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UH, MY BEST GUESS WOULD BE NO, THAT THE ODOR WILL NOT BE ANY DIFFERENT, WILL NOT BE ANY STRONGER, PROBABLY WILL NOT BE ANY LESS EITHER.
JUST AS LONG AS THE PEOPLE REALIZE THE CITY DOES NOT PRODUCE THE PRODUCT, THE PEOPLE THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
AND IF THEY COME UP WITH A BETTER SYSTEM, WE'LL USE THE BETTER SYSTEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU.
THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS A SWIMMING GOOGLE REPORT.
UH, WE TURNED OUR GOING IN ON FEBRUARY THE FIRST AT THE REGIONAL OFFICE RECREATION SOURCES.
I HAVE SINCE FOUND OUT THAT IN OUR SOUTHEAST REGION, WE HAD 17 GRANT REQUESTS TURNED IN AND STATEWIDE.
THERE ARE 75 THAT'S DOWN A LITTLE FROM LAST YEAR FUNDS AVAILABLE THIS YEAR, UH, FOR THESE GRANTS SIX AND A HALF TO $7 MILLION REQUESTED FUNDS FROM THE GRANT REQUESTS, TOTAL 13 MILLION.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE HALF OF THE GRANTS BEING FUNDED.
UH, SOME OF THESE MAY BE ANNOUNCED IN MAY AND THE REST IN JULY, THE FUNDS FOR THE PARK AND RECREATION TRUST FUND COME FROM REAL ESTATE TRANSFER TAXES, AND THEY WON'T GET FINAL QUARTER UNTIL LATER ON.
SO THEY CAN'T PREDICT HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'LL GET IN FROM THAT.
BUT THERE'S, UM, MORE THAN A LITTLE WORRY IN OUR RECREATION RESOURCES.
IF YOU READ THE PAPER TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE STATE COMING UP A LITTLE SHORT IN FUNDS FOR PAYING BACK IN TANGIBLES TAXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SOME OF THE, MY RECREATION RESOURCE PEOPLE ARE AFRAID THAT IT MIGHT'VE OUR PARK AND RECREATION TRUST FUND MIGHT BE AFFECTED BY THIS, THAT THEY MIGHT TAKE SOME MONEY OUT OF IT.
SO I GUESS JUST TIME TAIL, JUST SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
UH, NANCY, I, I UNDERSTAND, I'VE HEARD THAT THE YMC IS GOING TO BUILD AN OUTSIDE.
WHO, UH, HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ON THAT? I'VE HEARD IT BUILD IT.
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ABOUT THE WIFE IS GOING TO BUILD AN OUTSIDE POOL? I'VE JUST HEARD THAT THEY WERE THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.WELL, BILL HARTMAN MENTIONED IT TO ME THE OTHER DAY.
AND YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T GET A GRANT THAT MIGHT BE A CONSIDERATION TO SEE WHAT WE COULD WORK OUT WITH THOSE FUNDS, OH, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE AN OXIDE POOL TYPE THING.
WE STILL HAVE AN ARRANGEMENT WITH WHY MCA DO WE NOT FOR THE CITY, FOR KIDS WHO CANNOT AFFORD A MEMBERSHIP, CAN'T SWIM.
WELL, THAT'S VERY RESTRICTIVE ON THE INSIDE.
BOOM, OR MAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT IN OTHER WORDS, WITH THE TWO TOGETHER, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO COVER.
I THINK WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE AND FIND OUT MORE ABOUT IT JUST IN CASE WE DON'T GET OUR GRANTS.
UM, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AND LESS HAS CHANGED AS THEY LOOKED IN THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING THE POOP OUTSIDE POOL THEMSELVES AND SEE IF THEY COULD RAISE THE MONEY AND THAT KIND OF THING.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY CAME UP WITH ENOUGH SUPPORT.
I DON'T THINK NOW I MAYBE BE SPEAKING OUT OF SCHOOL, BUT ANYWAY, SOMEBODY ASKED ME IF THEY THOUGHT IF THE CITY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UH, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING JOINT.
AND I TOLD HIM, I THOUGHT WE WOULD, THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET A POOL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER FOR THE KIDS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO DO IT.
AND THEN I HEARD ONE TIME THAT THE COUNTY HAD THOUGHT ABOUT A POST.
I THINK THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS WHEN WE CAME OUT AND SAID WE WERE GOING TO WANT TO DO ONE, BUT EVEN A JOINT THING WITH THEM.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE SAVED THE CITY BUDDY AND SAVED THE Y TWO.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE WANT TO GET A POOL.
AND SINCE THERE SEEMS TO BE SEPARATE AND FRAGMENTED INTEREST IN DOING IT IS REALLY THE WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE BEAR BY THE, TO COME TOGETHER AND DO IT.
AND SO THAT'S MAKING AWFUL EASY.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING.
I THINK WE ALL GET OUR FINGERS IN BOTH AREAS.
WELL, I TOLD HIM WE'D BE INTERESTED.
IN JOINING FORCES, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK SO MOVIES, SO I APPRECIATE IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER? OKAY.
NEXT THING WE HAVE IS TO DISCUSS THE EXTENSION OF THE APARTMENTS FIRST STREET APARTMENTS.
AND, UH, WHO'S GONE ON THAT ONE.
YOU WANT TO DO ONE? ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
UM, YOU A PACKAGE THAT I HAD SENT OVER TO SEE YOU FIND THAT YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE MOTOR, UH, THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WHERE MR. DILLON WAS THE OWNER OF THE APARTMENTS ON FIRST STREET CAME IN AND HE MADE AN APPEAL TO ORDER THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, WHICH THAT PARTICULAR MEETING WAS HELD ON DECEMBER 14TH, 1998.
AND WHEN THE, THIS TIME PERIOD EXPIRED, THEY, WHAT THEY DID.
THEY, THEY APPEALED THE ORDER TO BUILD IN THE SPIDER THAT BASICALLY GAVE MR. DELAHUNT 60 DAYS TO BRING THE BURDENS INTO COMPLIANCE AND SO FORTH ON DOWN THE LINE.
WELL, HIS TIME EXPIRED ON FEBRUARY THE 13TH, 1998, EXCUSE ME, 1990 MINUTES.
AND HE CAME INTO THE OFFICE ON FEBRUARY THE 16TH, WHICH WAS, I THINK IT WAS LAST TUESDAY.
AND HE WAS REQUESTING AN EXTENSION OF TIME FOR GETTING THIS PLANS TOGETHER AS PERMITS TOGETHER AND SO FORTH AND SO FORTH.
THIS PARTICULAR SET OF APARTMENTS.
WHEN HE CAME IN AND ASKED ME ABOUT IT, I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GIVE ANY EXTENSION OF TIME BEING INSIDE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND MADE THAT RULE.
AND I TOLD HIM THE ONLY THING I KNEW THAT HE COULD POSSIBLY DO WAS POSSIBLY COME BEFORE THIS BOARD AND SEE IF THIS BOARD WOULD GIVE HIM A MINUTE STITCH IN THE TIME THAT HE WAS REQUESTING.
AND, BUT HE TALKED TO THE MAYOR, THE MAP BEFORE MR. DYLAN COMES IN MR. DELL COM UH, LET ME JUST SHARE THIS WITH THE BOARD AND MR. DALE HUNT, MR. DOVE, AND MR. CLARK.
AND IT SAID, MY WARD, MR. CLARK CALLED ME EARLIER AND TOLD ME THE SITUATION THAT WAS AT HAND.
AND AT THAT TIME I, UH, HAD MR. CLARK TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE FILE SINCE THIS TIME.
AND OF COURSE, MR.
IT HAS BEEN A LOT OF REQUESTS AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE PLAN IS ON THE BOARD HAS ASKED MR.
AND OF COURSE WE HAD TO COORDINATE WHERE IT HADN'T BEEN DONE AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT 10 YEARS.
UM, AND I TOLD MR. CLARK, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, THAT I WILL VOTE TO HAVE, UH, TO DENY THIS EXTENSION.
I TOLD HIM THAT, UH, SINCE THEN I'VE TALKED TO MR.
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DUB, WHO I'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT, TOM GRIFFITH ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AT ALL.AND I HAD NEVER TALKED TO MR. DILLON ABOUT THE PROPERTY AT ALL.
AND, UM, AND MR. DOVE HAS ASSURED ME THAT WITH THE EXTENSION, UH, THERE, HE FEELS AS THOUGH THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY AS IT IS GOING TO COME UP BECAUSE OF SOME PROBLEMS THAT HAS HAPPENED, WE HAVE TO ARCHITECT AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE.
AND, AND REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE WANTING TO SPEAK.
BUT YOU KNOW, I'M AT THE POINT NOW, WHERE IF YOU TALK WITH MR, UH, DE YOU KNOW, I WILL BE WILLING IF THE BOARD WOULD, OF COURSE, MAYBE SOME QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ASKED BY THE BOARD TO, TO, TO GIVE THEM THE 90 DAY.
BUT I WOULD THAT AT THE END OF 90 DAYS, THAT IF NOTHING IS DONE, IF IT'S NOT MET UP TO CODE, IF THERE'S NO WORK DONE, THERE WILL BE NO OTHER EXTENSION.
I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER TALKING ABOUT WALKING BILLBOARD, VOTE, MY VOTE TO DO OR NOT TO DO BEFORE WE EVEN HEAR THE PEOPLE SPEAK.
THERE WAS MICHAEL NEED TO HEAR HIM BECAUSE I ALREADY GOT A QUESTION, FINE, ASK THE QUESTIONS, BUT I'M SAYING THE ANSWER FOR IT.
AND THE PLAN HIS OWN BOARD SAID, DID YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BASICALLY THEIR WANTS TO NOT, CAUSE Y'ALL, DIDN'T ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT.
AND I TOLD JOHN, I SUPPORTING HIM.
BUT SINCE THAT TIME, I'VE TALKED TO MR. DUB AND I'VE, AND I'M COMING TO THE BOARD FOOT FOR ASKING FOR THE 90 DAYS.
BUT NOW IF YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION, THEN YOU CAN GO, LET ME, LET ME ASK US COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE, MR. CLARK IS SAYING THAT HE WANTS TO GO AHEAD WITH IT WITHOUT THE 90 DAYS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I MEAN, IF YOU HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT JUDY HAS HIS HAND, PLEASE, YOU SAY HE HAS NO AUTHORITY TO GIVE HIM THAT.
AND THEN WHEN JOHNNY AND I TALKED, I WAS IN AGREEANCE WITH HIM.
WE NEEDED TO GO AHEAD IN THIS.
BUT THEN I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO MR. DUB, AND HE IS TESTING MR. DOUG, WHO I'VE NEVER TALKED TO ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, HE'S COME FORTH AND ASKED ME IF WE COULD SUPPORT HIM IN GETTING SOME HELP TO EXTEND IT.
AND I NEVER TALKED TO MR. DILLON ABOUT A PROPERTY AT ALL.
AND THAT'S, THIS IS THAT RIGHT NOW ON FIRST STREET, THAT STRING OF APARTMENTS HAS BEEN ABANDONED, OR NOBODY'S BEEN AT THEM FOR A LONG TIME.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? THE THIRD THERE'S SOMEBODY LIVING IN ONE OF THEM IN THE BOTTOM LINE, I WAS JUST HUNTING TOGETHER.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET STRAIGHT.
AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BOTTOM LINE IS WHY I THINK WE'RE BEING RAILROADED HERE.
LET'S, LET'S TAKE THIS IN ORDER.
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A MEETING DONE AND A PROPER ORDER AND SCHEDULE HER IS TO ALLOW THE PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR REQUEST.
NOW WE'VE ALREADY GOT, WE'VE ALREADY GOT REQUEST.
ALL RIGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE REDUNDANT.
JULIUS ALREADY KNOWS HIS POSITION.
I KNOW WHAT THEIR POSITION IS.
YOU'RE JUST NOT GOING TO LET THEM TALK AT ALL.
BUT MATT, THEIR REQUEST CAME THROUGH ME.
I MEAN, WE DON'T NEED TO THE DISCUSSION.
IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS SOMETHING, GO AHEAD.
WE HAVE ALL SAND SINCE WHAT ARE YOU LAUGHING AT? BECAUSE I CAN LAUGH.
IF I WANT TO, WE'LL GO AT LIT.
THIS IS, THIS IS GETTING DEBATE.
WE HAVE SAID, WE HAVE SAID, IT'S GETTING TO BE A, IT'S GETTING TO BE A BALL BECAUSE I'M BEING DENIED THE RIGHT TO SPEAK AND ASK QUESTIONS OR HEAR FROM THESE PEOPLE.
WE HAVE SAID SINCE EACH ONE I WAS, WAS ELECTED THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE OF LOW INCOME.
NOW, IN MANY CASES, THE HOUSING LIKE THESE APARTMENTS ORIGINALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF THEIR REACH EXCEPT THROUGH HOODS.
THAT HOOD EXISTS TO HELP SOME OF THESE PEOPLE.
THERE'S SOME DECENT HOUSING, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WHEN I READ THROUGH HERE THAT THOSE APARTMENTS HAVE BEEN IN THAT SHAPE FOR 10 YEARS.
FOR 10 YEARS, THESE PEOPLE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING AND THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING DONE, NOTHING DONE, NOTHING DONE, NOTHING.
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GOT A LETTER HERE FROM THEIR ENGINEER.UH, THEN HE DIDN'T GET THE MESSAGE TO EARLY DECEMBER.
THEN HE COULDN'T SEE HIM UNTIL CHRISTMAS WEEK.
THEN HE CAME DOWN WITH THE FLU.
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT.
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE, WELL, WE CAN'T GET IT DONE IN 90 DAYS BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR HAS A WARRANT OR SOMETHING.
WE'RE BEING SNOOKERED ON THIS FOR 10 YEARS.
FOR 10 YEARS, THE CITY OF NEWBURN HAS BEEN BLIGHTED BY THIS STRIP OF APARTMENTS THAT ALL THE RECORDS SAY ARE UNFIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION, HOLES, ROTTED THROUGH THE FLOORS, COMMODES, ROCKING BACK AND FORTH LIGHT FIXTURES.
AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, AFTER 10 YEARS OF DODGING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY, BUILDING INSPECTOR, AS YOU ALL HAVE COPIES OFF, THEY HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK FOR 10 YEARS, NOT 90 DAYS.
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING? NOW? THEY HAVE MADE PROMISE AFTER PROMISE AFTER PROMISE, NOT MR. DOVE, BUT MR. DELAHUNT HAS MADE PROMISE AFTER PROMISE AFTER PROMISE.
AND HE HAS NOT FULFILLED THEM.
MACK, DO YOU REMEMBER BEFORE YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING, MR. DELAHUNT DO WE LOOK STUPID? NO, SIR.
WELL THEN WHY COULD YOU NOT HAVE DONE IN 10 YEARS? WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR 90 DAYS, EVIDENTLY YOU HAVEN'T CHECKED THE RECORD.
MR.
THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN A BLIGHT ON THE FACE OF NEWBORN.
I'M SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF THE AREA.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT THIS PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GONNA DEAL ME IS IN BETTER SHAPE THAN THE WHOLE SURROUNDING AREA.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE WHOLE BOARD A COPY OF, OF, OF, OF THAT, UH, ON THE OCCUPANTS AND ALL THAT FOR YOU TO READ, BUT MASSACHUSETTS AND READ EVERYTHING.
I NEED TO READ ABOUT THAT PROPERTY.
SEE A BULLDOZER DRIVE THROUGH IT TOMORROW BECAUSE THEN MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL BUILD SOME DECENT HOUSING THERE AND I'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE, NOT THE WHOLE AREA.
90 DAYS, NOVEMBER ONE, HE MADE A MOTION.
I SECOND, THAT WE SPOKE TO DISCUSS.
NOW THE MOTION WAS THAT AT THE END OF 90 DAYS, THE PROPERTY IS TORN DOWN.
IF THEY HAVEN'T MADE ANY PLANS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ITSELF.
WE WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT NOTHING, MR. MAYOR.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO SOME OF THE CALL FOR THE QUESTION, I DON'T NEED TO HEAR THEM SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
THE MOTION, THE REQUEST FOR 90 DAYS BE DENIED.
IS THERE A SECOND TO, IS PAUL 90 DAYS SECOND.
SO THAT SUBSTITUTE MOTION DIES.
LET ME ASK THIS IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE OF OUR, UH, MOTION AND SECOND THAT WE HAVE ON THE FLOOR, UH, MR. CLARK, HAVE THERE MEN, OR IS THERE A SPECIFIC SET OF THINGS THAT ARE PROMISED TO BE DONE IN 90 DAYS? IS THAT IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE SOME WAY AT THE END OF 90 DAYS, WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY, YES, IT WAS NOT A, NO, IT WAS NOT WITHOUT ANY ARGUING OR ANY, UH, SUBJECTIVE DISCUSSION OF YES, IT WAS.
IS THERE A CHECKLIST? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VOTING ON HERE THAT WE CAN TELL? I BASICALLY EARLIER YOU'RE STANDING WHERE, SORRY.
NOW SAY THAT THING, THAT TO ME COULD BE A SUBJECTIVE DISCUSSION AT THE END OF 90 DAYS WOULD BE QUOTE, UNQUOTE, SUBSTANTIAL WORK.
CAN YOU COUNT, CAN YOU COME TO SOME AGREEMENT TONIGHT? IN OTHER WORDS, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT IF WE VOTE TO GIVE HIM 90 DAYS, THAT AT THE END OF 90 DAYS, WE DON'T GET INTO ONE OF THESE LONG, UH, WHAT WE CALL IT DISCUSSIONS, BUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO KNOW PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
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ON ANOTHER PROJECT.WELL, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE US A 90 DAY ONE ON THIS ONE.
CAN YOU DO A 90 DAY BREAK WHERE YOU CAN SAY YOU HAVE, NOW YOU JUST SAID WHILE WE GOT IT DOWN.
I BASICALLY APPROVED
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN PUT IT IN THE MINUTES OF EXACTLY WHAT'S REQUIRED SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND IT AND WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT SO THAT IF WE DO VOTE THE WHOLE LIST, IT, WHEN 90 DAYS IS OVER EITHER IT'S NONE OR IT'S NOT A QUESTION.
MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WAITING 10 YEARS AND I'VE, I DON'T HAVE A, UH, A DECISION ON HOW I WILL VOTE ON THIS, BUT I WANT TO KNOW, DO YOU HAVE FUNDING? HAVE YOU GOTTEN MONEY AVAILABLE TO DO SUBSTANTIAL WORK? CAUSE THIS IS NOT A MINOR PROJECT.
THIS IS A MAJOR RENOVATION PROJECT.
DO YOU HAVE, CAN YOU SHOW US THAT YOU HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THE EFFORTS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED BY THESE PLANS THAT THIS ARCHITECT IS DRAWING UP? I DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD SAY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT, WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT.
WE'RE GOING TO, I NEED TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE DOLLARS AVAILABLE TODAY TO DO THE RENOVATIONS THAT YOU PLAN ON DOING.
WE JUST CAN'T LET YOU HAVE THE EXTENSION.
NOW TELL ME RIGHT HERE, YOU HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO THE RENOVATIONS THAT MR. CLARK REQUIRES TO GIVE YOU A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
I SAID YOU HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL GUARANTEE OF FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS WORK.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT RENOVATING A PATIO.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MAJOR RENOVATION OF A PROPERTY.
THAT'S THE ENTRANCE TO OUR CITY.
WE'VE GOT TO CLEAN THAT PLACE UP BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING, A GUARANTEE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIX IT.
AND I WILL SAY MYSELF THAT I HAVE HAD PEOPLE COME UP TO ME IN THE FIVE YEARS.
I'VE BEEN THE MAYOR AND ASKED ME ABOUT THESE THINGS, MAN.
I SAID, MAN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S GOTTA BE DONE ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S RIGHT WHERE PEOPLE COME IN TO NEED IT.
I MEAN, HE, YOU KNOW, HE USED TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT TO GET RID OF IT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR SUBSTANTIAL, SUBSTANTIAL WEALTH.
I WANT TO SEE A BANK LETTER OF CREDIT TURNED OVER TO THE CITY WHERE YOU CAN GUARANTEE THIS WILL BE DONE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL JUNE FOR YOU TO TURN THE FIRST SHOVEL OF DIRT.
BUT MR. MATHIS MAP AND ALL HAVE THE RESPECT ON THIS MATTER IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ITSELF BECAUSE THE MOTION IS THAT AFTER NINE EIGHT, JAMES IS GOING TO BE VICKY.
COULD YOU REPEAT THE MOTION THAT YOU HEARD? AND I THINK IT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THIS.
THE ENGINEER'S PLANS ARE APPROVED.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE 90 DAY JUDGMENT.
THAT'S GOING TO DO IT MONEY OR NO MONEY.
HOW MUCH WORK WE'LL ASK WHAT I MAKE SURE WE WERE GOING AROUND IS CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENTS.
LET'S READ A MOTION BACK FOR, GO AHEAD.
THAT'S THAT'S TO ME THAT'S TOO LOOSE.
I MEAN, IF HE, IF HE REPLACES ONE DOOR THAT'S WORTH NO JOHNNY AND HIS CAR, MR. CLARK HAS ALREADY SAID THAT HE NEEDS TO SEE AND THEY WERE A NUMERATOR.
COULD YOU WRITE THEM ON THAT? MAKE IT AS VICKY CAN GET THEM WORD FOR WORD, BUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO REQUIRE? MAY I BEAR NOW? I MAY SAY, WELL, I THINK IF WE CAN GET ONE DEFINITION OF SUBSTANTIAL WORK TO PERMIT, UH, THE, THE ARCHITECT'S PLAN AND THE PLAN OF ACTION.
BUT IF WE CAN GET WHAT SUBSTANTIAL WORK IS, THE REST OF US WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF.
RIGHT? BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS NOT JUST SUBSTANTIAL
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WORK, BUT THE OTHER THREE OR FOUR THINGS, I JUST, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WE DON'T MEET ANOTHER DISCUSSION IN 90 DAYS WHILE ALL MOVE, BEFORE WE EVEN COME IN HERE, THIS WASN'T DONE.YES, IT WASN'T DONE NO IN THE STORY.
AND I MEAN, AND THAT THING'S GOING TO EITHER BE FIXED OR DONE AWAY WITH, I MEAN, THAT'S THE LAW AND THAT'S WHY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
THAT'S THE ONLY REASONABLE
AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER THING YOU WENT TO YOU GOT THE NITPICKY EITHER.
WE'RE GOING TO DO IT OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
AND AS FAR AS THEIR FUNDING IS CONCERNED, I THINK IS THEIR BUSINESS.
IF THEY CAN'T GET THE FUNDING TO FUND A PROJECT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO KICK OFF IN 90 DAYS, THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLERANT AND WE'VE KEPT AT IT FOR 10 YEARS.
AND TENURE THEM, 90 DAYS WON'T KILL IT.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE US THAT LONG TO KNOCK THEM DOWN AND CLEAN IT UP.
SO IN 90 DAYS, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE THINGS THAT MISS THE CLOCK SPECIFIES, AND YOU NEED TO SPECIFY THEM, THEN YOU'LL COME BACK TO US.
AND WE WON'T BE IN THE DISCUSSION.
EVERYTHING WE'LL TAKE CARE OF.
SO LET ME, LET ME ASK YOU ONE OTHER QUESTION.
I ASKED Y'ALL TO GIVE HIM 90 DAYS TO GET THE PLAN THAT AIN'T LET HIM TAKE.
JOHNNY SAID THE PLANS WERE READY.
SIX MONTHS, WHAT? 60 DAYS AGO, SINCE THE ARCHITECT, HE SAID, WE MET WITH HIM RIGHT AFTER WE MET ON THE BOAT.
WHAT HAPPENED? WE WENT TO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST OF THE HOLIDAY, THE HOLIDAYS WE TOOK OFF, WE ALL TOOK OFF.
COME BACK TO THE FIRST OF THE YEAR WE GOT RIGHT BACK IN.
BUT LET ME ASK YOU ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER AND BELAY THIS THING, HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO COST Y'ALL TO DO THIS? IF I CAN GET A SPECIFICATION WITH THE CLOCK, I'VE WORKED WITH MR. PARK ON.
WHAT? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS REQUIRED.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU GOT SOME, YOU ALL HAVE SOME KIND OF IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO.
IF YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE GETTING IN HERE.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M GOING TO DEFINE AND SEE IF THE BOARD WOULD AGREE THAT LET'S SAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $50,000 WESTLAKE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $50 MILLION, WHATEVER IT IS, THEN WE COULD DEFINE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORK, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, BEING A SUBSTANTIAL PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL COST OF THIS PROJECT.
AND ALL I'M TELLING YOU IS IF NOBODY KNOWS IT HAS ANY IDEA TONIGHT, NO IDEA AT ALL OF WHAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO.
CAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN 90 DAYS.
THE OTHER THING IS, IF YOU DO KNOW, I LIKE TO KNOW, GET A GENERAL IDEA OF HOW MUCH THAT IS.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE EITHER THAT MUCH MONEY SPENT ON THAT PROJECT.
NOT ALL OF THAT MONEY, BUT SOME AMOUNT WE AGREE ON AND SEE SOME RECEIPTS FOR IT.
AT 90 DAYS, THAT'LL BE OUR DEFINITION OF WHETHER YOU ARE INVOLVED IN IT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SPEND A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND LET THE THING DIE.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU HAVEN'T SPENT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY OR YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW MUCH THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO COST, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ALIVE IN 90 DAYS.
SO WHY, HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING ABOUT
AND AT THE END OF THE 90 DAYS OR 60 DAYS, WHAT THE PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, THAT'S THE THOUGHT, AND HE CAN GIVE US A FITBIT.
YOU GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY THAT RANG, OKAY, WE'RE SAYING IT.
AND HE'S ALREADY SAID WHAT HE WANTED AND THAT DIDN'T SOUND UNREASONABLE AT THE TIME TO ANY OF US AND PLEASE YOURSELF.
AND THAT WAS THAT SET OF PLANS DEPARTMENT SATURDAY, SATURDAY NIGHT, ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS IN HIS WALK WAS REPRESENT TO US A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORK.
AND WE'RE BEING, WE'RE BEING GOOD ON THAT BY SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET DOWN HERE AND ARGUE ABOUT YOU DROVE A HUNDRED NAILS.
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AND HE SAID IT HAD TO BE 95, BUT I'M SAYING THAT IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD CHUNK OF MONEY INVOLVED IN THAT THING IN 90 DAYS, I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT NOBODY'S EVER GOING TO FIX IT.AND I'M GOING TO HAVE THEM YET.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 90 DAYS IN THE OCCUPATION TALKING ABOUT GIVING HIM 90 DAYS.
SO IF HE CAN'T DO IT AT 90 DAYS, YOU NEED ANOTHER ARCHITECT.
THEY GOT, BUT DIDN'T, HADN'T THIS MAN BEEN INVOLVED AS ARCHITECT ALREADY.
ANOTHER PROJECT THAT
IF I TURN AROUND AND MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE YOU 90 DAYS FOR YOUR ARCHITECT AND GET PLANS TO THIS, THIS BOOK VOTED DOWN.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M BEGGING THIS BOARD TO ALLOW YOU 90 DAYS OR THE FOUR THINGS THAT MR. CLAW HAS DESIGNATED THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
THAT'S THREE MONTHS DOWN
WHEN IT WAS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
THE ISSUE HERE IS EXTENDED 900 DAYS TO GET A PROJECT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHERE HE CAME UP WITH THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO.
ALL I'VE GOT TO GO ON HIS HISTORY AND HISTORY SAYS, HE'S NOT GOING TO DO WHAT HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO DO.
AND I, IN 90 DAYS, WE'RE GOING TO KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT, I'M JUST TELLING YOU, WELL, I HAVEN'T HEARD, LET ME SUGGEST SOMETHING OUT IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE WEEKS OR 30 DAYS OR WHATEVER.
AND IF AN ARCHITECT CAN'T TELL YOU BY THEN HOW MUCH MONEY IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED AND YOU GOT TO KNOW HOW YOU GOT TO PUT IT, WHAT STANDARDS IS GOING TO BE UP TO.
I WOULD SUGGEST YOU GO AHEAD AND LET HER BODY KNOW THAT YOU DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GO CLEAN WHAT YOU THINK, UNLESS DON'T FEEL GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD.
BECAUSE WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS TRYING TO SAVE.
I VOTE FOR THIS THING TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU 90 DAYS, THEN THIS HAS GOT TO BE A LIVE PROJECT.
COULD THEY COME IN NOW? OKAY, GO AHEAD.
AND ONE OTHER THING, ANYONE SAID ONE SUBSTANTIAL, HUH?
AND THIS PAST WEEKEND, THERE WAS SOMEONE THAT WAS FOUND IN THERE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UNTIL THEY'RE ABLE TO GET LOADED UP.
AND NOT ONLY THE BOARD IT'S BEEN POSTED
BUT, BUT, BUT WE NEED TO BOARD IT UP THOUGH, THE SAFE FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
MAKE SOME NICE APARTMENTS OUT OF IT.
WE NEED THE HOUSING FOR THE PEOPLE.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE YOUR PROJECTS AND SEE WHAT WE DO MEAN BUSINESS.
AS A BOARD, WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN UP THE AREA FOR ALL THE REST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO YOUR EMOTION ABOUT BOARDING IT UP AND RUNNING TO ADD TO THE MOTION, THE REQUEST BODY INSPECTING DEPARTMENT TO BOARD, THEN THAT HAS TO BE PART OF THIS FINE, AND THEN MOTION TO REREAD YOUR MOTION.
SO WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING.
WE'RE PROBABLY SNOWED IN BY NOW.
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UM, OUR, UM, A PLAN OF ACTION TO BE SUBMITTED FROM THE ARCHITECT, UM, REQUIRED SUBSTANTIAL WORK DONE IN THE 90 DAY PERIOD.AND IN THE INTERIM THAT THE FACILITY, WHAT IT UP FOR YOU.
SO I'M SENDING THAT TO THEM, AH, YES.
TO SUPPORT THAT SUBSTANTIAL ART THAT YOU AIN'T GOING TO COME BACK AND SUBSTANTIATED.
WE ASKED HOW MUCH MONEY Y'ALL HAD SPENT IN THAT PROJECT WITH SOME RECEIPTS.
CAN SOMEBODY GIVE ME A DEFINITION OF SUBSTANTIAL PRESENCE THEY WERE WORKING ON WHAT IS IS I WILL GET BACK TO THAT LETTER.
MR. CLARK, THE PARK SAID, HAVE THE WORK DONE
WELL, WE'LL I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO, WE TRY TO DEFINE IT BY SO MANY BOARD FEET FINISHED OR SO MANY PERCENTAGES.
AND THEN I THINK THAT THEY WILL ALL KNOW WHEN THEY COME BACK.
AND TO SEE THAT YOU'VE SPENT WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT IN IT.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO, TO FEEL SURE AT IN THE 90 DAYS.
AND HE TOOK US THAT A REASONABLE BOARD OF ALDERMAN WOULD AGREE THAT, UH, YOU'VE GOT SUBSTANTIAL WORK DONE ON IT
IF THEY, IF THEY STARTED TO WORK AND HAVE A SIGNED CONTRACT OR TWO TO COMPLETE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH ANYWAY.
BUT I ALSO SAID IT AS WORKING PROCESS AND A CONTRACT.
WON'T SATISFY THE REST OF OUR BOARD AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT'LL BE, UH, UH, IT'LL BE SORT OF LIKE WHEN YOU TRY TO DEFINE, UH, SOCRATES TRIED TO DEFINE JUSTICE NOW ALL ENDED UP.
THEY COULDN'T DO IT, BUT THEY KNEW IT WHEN THEY SAW IT.
WE GONNA KNOW IT WHEN WE SEE IT, BUT WITH THE 90.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON WITH THAT.
NOW, WHEN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROVER AND WE SHOULD VOTE.
YES, YES, NO, YES, YES, YES, YES.
NOW WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I JUST WANT TO AN AMENDMENT TO, UH, TO A NUMBER SIX.
I WANT IT TO TAKE PLACE ON JULY 1ST, 1999.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE NOTICED TO CHANGE THEIR ADDRESSES AND ALL THAT.
YOU STILL WANT IT TO MAKE IT TAKE EFFECT THE STREET NAME AND TAKE A JULY 1ST, 1999, ANOTHER STREET NAME.
ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY THING? THEY WANTED TO PULL OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA? WHEN WE ADOPTED TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, I MAKE A MOTION.
WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.
MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT, PLEASE? LORD, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANT TO, UH, MAKE A NOTATION THAT THE REASON I'M CHANGING THE STREET STREET NAME IS THAT MR. ERNIEL TOMPKINS, SHE WAS THE FIRST FEMALE AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRINCIPAL IN THE CITY OF NEWBURN.
AND THIS IS JUST TO HONOR HER ACCOMPLISHMENTS, SO IT WILL BE KNOWN AND THAT'S IT.
NEXT THING IS APARTMENTS, MR. MADDEN? NO, SIR.
SO LIKE TO A POINT, UM, SARAH COTTON TO THE PLANNING ZONE, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I JUST DON'T HAVE ANY, OKAY.
NO, HE USED TO STILL DOWN THERE IN MY EYES.
I KNOW MY DOCTOR'S PROBABLY WATCHING.
HE'S LIKE, WHY DOES HE WEAR, I HAVE THIS APPOINTMENT? I DON'T KNOW WHO'S TO MAKE THAT TO THE PARENTS DISPUTE.
YOU CAN READ IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT, UH, WE'RE HERE IS THAT YOU'RE CARRYING IT UP AND ALL THIS EXCITEMENT FOR THE 99,
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WHAT HAPPENED HERE? IT IS.IT WAS SUGGESTED BY MS.
AND, UH, I WENT TO SCHOOL, WHETHER WE WENT TO FIRST GRADE TOGETHER AND UH, SEVERAL OTHER GRADES, AS I RECALL, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS AT ALL WITH HER BEING APPOINTED TO IT.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MOVE BACK IN THAT SECOND NIGHT? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING STEVIE MINUTES.
AND I'VE GOT ONE I'D LIKE TO MAKE, AND THAT WOULD BE TO A POINT THOUGH, ROBIN FL SAMSON TO THE NEIGHBORING HOUSING AUTHORITY.
I'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO THAT FOR SOME TIME.
THE OPENING FINALLY CAME OVER TO MY I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING ON A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH HER AND, UH, BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH HER CHARACTER AND HONESTY AND, UH, GOOD WISDOM.
SO ANYBODY WANT A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALL RIGHT, NANA, WE HAVE ANY MISCELLANEOUS.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO ME.
IT WAS, UH, IN REGARDS TO, I MEAN, I, MISS CHAMBERLAIN CAME BEFORE US TALKING ABOUT THE TRUCKS DOWN NATIONAL AVENUE AND THAT THEY WOULD GET THE NAMES OF THE TRUCKS THAT COME THROUGH NATIONAL AVENUE, NAVAL EVENTS.
I'M GOING TO PASS THIS ON TO CITY MANAGER.
I PASSED, I THINK IT WAS THAT SAME LIST.
I PASSED IT ON TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
IF IT'S THE SAME ONE AND TELL HIM THAT WE HAD THE NAMES, THE ADDRESS, YOU SEE HIS JOB, BUT HE'S WAS LEAFLY RAN OFF WITH THE THING.
SO I'M SURE SOMETHING'S ALREADY BEING DONE ABOUT IT.
SO YOU HAVE ANY MR. FREEZE? NOPE.
THAT'S THE LANE YOU DO HAVE, UH, IN THE SIXTH WARD, WE WERE HAVING A NEW ROAD PUT IN BY THE, UH, UH, KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS BUILDING IS GOING INTO THE NEW AREA AND THE, FOR THE RECORD, WHICH I LIKE FOR THE INTERNET IS A RECORD THAT WOULD BE NAMED LAURA AVENUE AFTER MY MOTHER, LAURA HARVEST AND BALLENGER.
SO IF SOMEBODY 50 YEARS, BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE NAME CAME FROM.
I WANT IT TO BE IN THE RECORD, THE MINUTES, LAURA, L A I L A U R A HARVEST AND VIOLENCE TO BE CALLED LA AVENUE.
AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND TELL HIM TO PUMP MY 40 SEES MOTHER'S NAME WAS MINNIE PEARL.
AND IF YOU EVER SEE ANYTHING NAMED MINNIE PEARL IS I ONLY BEEN TO WIKI, BLAME IT ON THE NATURAL, BUT I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING TO NAME SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHATEVER, BUT ANYHOW, IT PROBABLY WON'T BE AS MAYOR, BUT IT WILL BE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
SO, UH, WOULD YOU, UH, HAVE ANY MISCELLANEOUS MR. BROCKTON? NO, SIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM THE PROUD GRANDPARENT OF THE NEW LITTLE BOY BORN THIS PAST WEEKEND.
HOPE IT DIDN'T NAME HIM AFTER YOU AND HIS FATHER IS NO.
WHEN YOU HEAR HIS NAME FOR THAT IS HIS FATHER IS GERALD PICKETS.
THEY BOTH THOUGHT WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND ONSLOW COUNTY.
AND IF YOU HAVE EVER HEARD A NAME FOR CONFEDERATE CAVALRY KERNEL, THIS BOY'S NAME AT NINE POUNDS, EIGHT OUNCES IS GABRIEL ROBINSON PICKETS.
THAT'S A CONFEDERATE COLONEL'S NAME.
IF I'VE EVER HEARD NINE POUNDS AND EIGHT OUNCES, HE OUGHT TO BE ON THE BOARD.
AND THEN THAT'S, WHO'S ALREADY IN SCHOOL.
PLEASE FILE CIGARS SINCE MAX THE FATHERS.
AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT HIS FAMILY.
I LIKE TO MENTION THAT I HAVE A NEW GRANDDAUGHTER KAITLIN JEWEL, WHO WAS A MONTH OLD SATURDAY.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE, HOW MUCH YOU WEIGH.
UH, SHE WAS A LITTLE TINY KATELYN JEW.
WELL, THAT MAKES EIGHT FOR ME.
AND THAT'S IT RIGHT? MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I'M GOING TO ADJOURN ALL IN FAVOR OF A JOURNEY AND SAY, AH, ALL OPPOSE.