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WE ALIVE THEM WITH A PRAYER BY REVEREND JERRY RACKLEY AND SHARE WITH PAUL AND HIS CHURCH.
OUR FATHER, WE COME INTO YOUR PRESENCE TONIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.
LORD IS A DAY THAT'S NEVER BEEN USED BEFORE.
WE PRAY THAT AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH IT, THAT WE'VE USED IT TO HONOR AND GLORIFY YOU FOLLOW AS THE ADOLESCENTS ON THIS MEETING TONIGHT, AS THESE MEN GATHER TOGETHER TO CONDUCT BUSINESS WITH THIS COMMUNITY, WE PRAY THAT WHAT THEY DO WILL BE CONSENSUS WITH YOUR WILL TO BE A BLESSING AND A HELP TO ALL ABOUT THANK YOU FOR LOVING US AND CARING FOR US.
WE ASK THESE SIMPLE FAVORS IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO TONIGHT IS PRESENT THE ARBOR DAY PROCLAMATION.
I BELIEVE MR. STAN LETTUCE IS ACTUALLY YOU.
I SEE OUT THERE, I'M SUPPOSED TO BE WEARING MY GLASSES, BUT LET ME READ THIS THING WHILE WE HAVE A MIC UP HERE BEFORE I PRESENT IT TO YOU.
AND IT SAYS, WHEREAS ARBOR DAY IS A NATIONAL CELEBRATION OF COMMUNITY TREE GROW AND PLANNING AND CARE DATING BACK TO 1872.
AND WHEREAS RECOGNITION OF THIS IMPORTANT HISTORICAL TRADITION AND THE PRACTICAL AS WELL AS AESTHETIC VALUE OF TREES IS A YEAR LONG EFFORT AND NEWMAN.
WHEREAS ARBOR DAY SERVES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE GOOD WORK OF CITY EMPLOYEES, RESIDENT VOLUNTEERS, LOCAL GARDEN CLUBS, CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS, AND THE MANY SERVICE GROUPS INVOLVED WITH THE PRESERVATION AND EXPANSION OF OUR URBAN FOREST.
WHEREAS ARBOR DAY REMINDS ALL OF US IN THE BASIC NEED FOR TREES, SUCH AS THEY HELP CLEAN THE AIR, PROTECT WILDLIFE, SAVE HEAT AND COOLING COSTS, CONSERVE ENERGY PRODUCTION, BLOCK POLLUTION OF RIVERS AND STREAMS, REDUCE SOUL EROSION AND PROVIDE A SENSE OF COMFORT SHELTER AND SPIRITUAL WELLBEING.
AND WHERE AS TREES IN OUR CITY INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES ENHANCE THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF BUSINESS AREAS AND COMPRISE A VISUAL RECORD OF NEWMAN'S FANS, AS WELL AS A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF PARENTS OF THE STREET, SCAPES AND LANDSCAPES.
NOW THEREFORE ITA BAYLOR'S MAYOR OF THE CITY NEARBY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM, APRIL 30TH, 1999 IT'S ARBOR DAY, THE CITY, A CITY OF NEIGHBOR, AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO CELEBRATE HIS MEANING BY PLANNING, REPLACING, OR PROTECTING THEIR TREES AND WOODLANDS, AND TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROPER SELECTION CARE AND MAINTENANCE OF TREES TO MAKE THEM LAST LONGER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIS AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.
AND I FIRST MET, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE, HOW LONG
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STAN WE HAVE DISCUSSED, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET IT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR OR NOT BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS REALLY TIGHT, BUT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AT A COUPLE OF SESSIONS, THE CITY EACH YEAR, AND THE BUDGET PUTTING A SUM OF MONEY, NOT A LOT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES.WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO FIT IT INTO WHAT WE'RE ALREADY GETTING, BUT ENOUGH TO PROVIDE FOR SEVERAL HUNDRED, UH, WHATEVER HORTICULTURISTS COULD GET THAT WOULD WORK BEST.
AND THROUGH SOME PLAN, WHICH WOULD BE UP TO YOU FOLKS, TO FIGURE OUT, GIVE ONE TO EACH FAMILY THAT WANTED ONE FIRST COME FIRST SERVE EACH YEAR ON ARBOR DAY SO THAT IT WOULDN'T MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.
THE FIRST YEAR TO THREE YEARS, BUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WE MIGHT'VE WOUND UP PLANTING 2000 NEW CREPE, MYRTLES, AND DOGWOODS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
SO, UH, WE WE'RE, IT MAY COME UP IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.
IT MAY BE ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE WE GET AROUND TO IT, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND IT'LL BE UP TO YOU TO DECIDE HOW TO DISTRIBUTE THEM TO THE PEOPLE.
AND I DON'T CARE WHERE THEY PUT THEM, PUT THEM IN THE FRONT YARD, WHATEVER, JUST AS LONG AS YOU'RE BEAUTIFIED, AS LONG AS IT BEAUTIFIES, NEWBURN, SAY, IF YOU CAN WORK BIG TREE IN THERE SOMEWHERE
WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING WITH LIMBS HIGH ENOUGH AND STRONG ENOUGH TO HANG AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, LITTLE TREES, LITTLE TREES.
WE APPRECIATE YOU THAT, BY THE WAY, Y'ALL YES, JUST A LITTLE ASIDE.
BUT I TOLD MY WIFE, SHE'S BEEN MAKING FUN OF HOW LARGE I'VE GOTTEN.
AND I TOLD HER THE NIGHT BEFORE I LEFT, I SAID, GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT STOMACH RIGHT THERE.
I SAID, NEXT WEEK IS GOING TO BE GONE.
SHE SAID, WELL, I SUGGEST YOU DON'T STAND UP FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE NEXT WEEK.
CAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THERE.
BUT ANYWAY, THE SEWER REPORT IS NEXT BY THE CITY ENGINEER.
THERE HE IS RIGHT IN THE FRONT ROW.
WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN TRADED A TOTAL OF 98.3 MILLION GALLONS IN THE MONTH OF MARCH.
THAT'S AN AVERAGE DAILY FLOW OF 3.2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
THE MAX DAY FLOW WAS 4.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
THE BOD EFFICIENCY REMOVAL WAS 93%.
AND THE TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS REMOVAL EFFICIENCY WAS 88%.
ALL OF THOSE ARE WITHIN OUR MPDS PERMIT.
WE'RE THE THIRD QUARTER IN A ROW.
WE FAILED THE TOXICITY AND WE HAVE CONTACTED THE STATE AND ASK, UH, THEIR BEST JUDGMENT AS TO WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO DETERMINE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS BECAUSE ALL THE PARAMETERS WE ARE LOOKING AT ON A REGULAR BASIS, DON'T APPEAR TO SHOW ANY SIGNS OF WHY WE'RE FAILING AND TOXICITY.
AND THEY HAVE SUGGESTED A SERIES OF TESTS THAT WE GO THROUGH.
UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
AND HOPEFULLY THE FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THOSE TESTS WILL DETERMINE WHAT IS CAUSING US TO FAIL THIS TOXICITY.
UH, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS DO A REPEAT FOLLOW-UP TO A PAST THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE, UH, TODAY.
WELL, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE LITTLE TS MAN? THAT'S WHEN THEY DIE.
I MEAN, DON'T MAKE IT IN ANY WAY TO AUTOPSY AND SEE WHAT KILLED THEM.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SHE COULD DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT US, IT'S EVERYWHERE I USE THIS TASK, BUT I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE, IF YOU KNOW YOUR TASK PARAMETERS OF YOUR PLAN, SO EVERYTHING IS OKAY.
AND THEN THE GOLD STANDARD, SO TO SPEAK IS THESE LITTLE TASK MANAGEMENT, BUT THERE'S MORE.
AND IF THEY BELLY UP, AS THEY SAY, THEN YOU'VE GOT A TOXICITY PROBLEM BY DEFINITION.
BUT IF ALL YOU CAN DO, THE READINGS ARE OKAY.
I MEAN, AND WHERE DO YOU GO FROM THERE? EXACTLY EXAMINE THE FISH.
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME AND SOMEBODY DEFINITIVELY SAY WHAT KILLED THEM.
IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD EXAMINE A SPECK ON YOUR FINGERNAIL AND LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT IT'S GOT, IT'S A VERY SMALL, THEY PUT 10 FISH AND, UH, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE DIXIE CUP, THAT'S A TWO MOUNTAINS DIXIE CUP.
THAT'S WHAT THEY USE TO DO THIS TEST.
AND THEY PUT 10 SMALL MINNOWS THERE.
ALL YOU CAN SEE IS THEIR EYEBALL.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD LIKE YOU, THERE WOULD BE IN AN AQUARIUM WITH 10 FISH IN IT, AND IT WILL BE RUNNING WASTEWATER THROUGH IT DILUTED WASTEWATER, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT ALL.
AND, UM, IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S A VERY INEXACT SCIENCE, BUT AT THIS TIME I KNOW PEOPLE THAT COULD SCARE FISH LIKE THAT.
IF THEY HAVE, I DO BELIEVE THAT AS UNDER IT, THAT PARTICULAR TEST IS UNDER REVIEW BY THE STATE AS TO WHETHER IT'S REALLY EVEN NEEDED.
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OKAY.WELL, I CAN TELL YOU IF YOU DON'T CARE IT, EAT THE MINERALS.
THEY'RE GOING TO DIE VERY QUICKLY.
ANY FISHERMEN CONTINUE THAT? AND THEY GOT TO HAVE, THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME RUNNING WATER.
THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE FRESH OR FRESH OXYGEN.
IT'S, UH, IT'S AN INEXACT DESK, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET RESULTS FROM THE, UH, FROM THE TEST RESULTS THAT ARE ONGOING AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER THING TO REPORT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
DID SHE PUT SOME MINERALS IN THIS WOMAN? I HAVE A FEW THINGS, UM, TO UPDATE YOU ON.
I THINK I'VE TOLD YOU PREVIOUSLY THAT THE PARK AUTHORITY BOARD, WHICH ADMINISTERS DEPART, UH, PARK AND RECREATION TRUST FUND WOULD MEET IN MAY TO DETERMINE WHICH, UM, GRANTS WOULD BE FUNDED FOR THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS OF THE YEAR FOR THE FUNDING.
AND I FOUND OUT THEY ARE GOING TO MEET A WEEK FROM FRIDAY.
AT THAT TIME THREE QUARTERS OF THE MONEY WILL BE PUT INTO THE AMPS AND IT'LL BE AROUND 5.4 MILLION.
THIS ISN'T DEFINITE THE MONEY COMES FROM REAL ESTATE TRANSFER TAXES IN JULY.
THE LAST PORT WILL BE ALLOCATED FROM THE LAST QUARTER.
AND, UM, THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE CLOSE TO $2 MILLION.
MY RECREATION CONSULTANT TELLS ME THAT OUR GRANT IS SOMEWHERE QUOTE UNQUOTE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK AFTER SCORING.
UH, BUT THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS INVOLVED THAT THEY WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN, UH, FUNDING THESE GRANTS.
AND, UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? ISN'T THAT THE GRANT THAT THEY GIVE THEM TO THEM IN ORDER AND THEY CAN THROW OUT THE ORDER IF THEY WANT TO AND JUST FUND WHATEVER THEY WANT TO, WHAT WASN'T IT? LAST YEAR WHEN WE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT THAT THEY SAID THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THEM IN ORDER, THEY CAN JUST FUND ANY, SOME GRANT.
THEY WILL BABE, AND HAVE NEW PEOPLE ON THE BOARD THIS YEAR.
AND THEY COULD THINK DIFFERENTLY.
THEY COULD, UM, RATE THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
IT'S A NEW BALL GAME THIS YEAR.
UM, LAST YEAR THEY DIDN'T FUND ONE SWIMMING POOL ACROSS THE STATE, NONE FUNDED.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA THINK THIS YEAR.
IF YOU GET A CHANCE, SEE IF YOU CAN'T GET A LIST OF THE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE OUTSIDE.
UH, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN, I'M SORRY.
I SPOKE TO MR. HARTMAN ABOUT SDL TODAY AND ASK YOU WAS ASKING HIM, WAS IT IN THERE FOR PREROGATIVE, I GUESS AS A MAYOR.
AND HE SAID IT WAS, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, UH, IF IT'S OKAY WITH A BOARD, UH, IS APPOINT A COMMITTEE TO LOOK INTO A SWIMMING POOL WHILE ALL THIS IS GOING ON WITH SOMEBODY FROM THE COUNTY, FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, I TALKED TO JOE BOCK THE OTHER DAY, HE'D COME BY AND SEE ME BECAUSE THERE WAS A DESIRE AND THE WHOLE AREA FOR A SWIMMING POOL.
AND I TOLD HIM THAT IT LOOKED LIKE TO ME, THAT NOBODY WAS GOING TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL INDIVIDUALLY AS THEY WANT IT TO BE.
IT'S TAKEN SO LONG AND EVERYTHING.
BUT IF ALL OF THE GROUPS GOT TOGETHER, WE CAN BUILD UP A HECK OF A SWIMMING POOL AND HAVE SOMEBODY TO RUN IT LIKE THE Y OR WHATEVER.
SO I ASKED HIM, WOULD HE MIND SERVING ON SUCH A BOARD? HE SAID, HE'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT.
AND I SAID, WELL, I MIGHT HAVE SPELLED THE NAME RAIN.
THEY JUST TALKING ABOUT SWIMMING POOLS FOR A LONG TIME.
AND I KNOW YOU WOULDN'T MIND SERVING.
AND WHAT I THOUGHT I WOULD DO IS STICK A COUPLE OF GUYS LIKE, UH, MR. BACH AND YOURSELF ON IT.
AND THEN IF YOU ALL WANT TO TAKE IT FROM THERE, JUST TO YOUR EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE, TALK TO THE COUNTY GUYS AND ALL THESE PEOPLE AND PUT THEM TOGETHER, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN PULL SOME RESOURCES, GO AND BUILD A POOL AND BE DONE WITH IT BEFORE WE MESS AROUND HERE.
AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THESE PEOPLE TO GRANT THIS AND DO THIS AND DO THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, I'M AFRAID THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAKE ME UP AND TELL ME THE POOL WAS BUILT ONE DAY.
AND HE WAS A HEARING TRUMPET FOR ME TO KNOW.
I THINK I'M GETTING THERE, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE WELL, YOU CONTACT HIM.
I DON'T THINK THE CITY OUGHT TO BUILD A BY ITSELF.
THE POOL NEEDS TO COME FROM THE CITY, THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY.
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EFFORT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T POLICE.AND WHY SHOULD WE BEAR THIS BURDEN ON JAPAN? ANYWAY, WE DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE ANYONE.
SO EVERYBODY NEEDS TO PARTICIPATE.
WE CAN DO IT RIGHT WITH THE SOURCES.
I THINK WE'RE STILL NEEDING TO LEAVE LIKE RENT.
THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA YOU HAVE BEFORE WHEN YOU TOOK THAT APPROACH, YOU REMEMBER, AND THEN THEY GOT INTO LET'S HAVE THE POOL AT THE HIGH SCHOOL IS HAVING AT THE Y KIND OF FACE.
EVERYBODY GOT TO PICK THE SKIRTS, BUT THAT'S A REAL GOOD IDEA THAT THIS IS A TEMPORARY, THERE'S SOME OTHER FOLKS INVOLVED NOW THOUGH, THAT THE MOST SERIOUS ABOUT GETTING THE LET'S BEFORE WE WERE THE ONES HOLDING THE POOL AND THE OTHERS DIDN'T SEEM TO REALLY CARE THAT MUCH, BUT NOW THERE'S OTHERS.
BUT I UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS A POOL.
AND, UH, IN THE COUNTY PARK, THEY WERE BUILDING A TOW.
THEY HEARD THAT THE CITY WAS AFTER LETTING ME SCRATCH THAT OFF, OFF INVESTIGATING.
WELL, I HEARD THAT THEY WERE ONLY ONE OUT THERE, BUT HE COULDN'T QUITE HACK IT A LONDON AGAIN, EACH PERSON TRYING TO COME UP WITH ONE IT'S LIKE ROBIN SAID, YOU CAN'T POLICE IT LITERALLY AND KEEP PEOPLE OUT AND DIDN'T REALLY PAY FOR IT.
SO, HEY, WHY NOT LET EVERYBODY PAY FOR IT AND THEN DECIDE NOT TO WORRY ABOUT IT, BUT WE DO NEED TO TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO SWIM RIVERS
IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD, IT FEELS LIKE THEY REALLY WANT TO BE ON IT OR WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOBODY EXCLUDING ANYBODY.
I THINK WE WANT TO HAVE THAT MEETING WITH THE COUNTY AND GET THERE TO GET THEM TO JUMP ON BOARD WITH THIS.
WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A MEANINGFUL AND EQUITABLE SOLUTIONS.
AND JAMIE TALKED ABOUT OUR JOINT MEETING THAT WE WANT TO HAVE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND ALL THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS, BUT LET ME, LET ME, LET ME CAUTION YOU ON THAT.
IN MY OPINION, I THINK THAT THIS KIND OF THING IS DONE BETTER.
IN MY OPINION, WITH A LESSON NUMBER OF PEOPLE, THEY CAN GET THE TOGETHER FROM EACH GROUP.
BECAUSE IF NOT, YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHEN ONE REMARK BY ONE GUY SETS EVERYBODY OFF IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, HE JUST CAN'T GET ANYWHERE.
SO, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO KIND OF FEEL IT OUT, SAY THE CAMERA'S NOT RUNNING THE BOAT.
WON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY.
SO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WON'T KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
RIGHT NOW I KNOW THE CAMERA'S RUNNING.
BUT ANYWAY, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO EXPLORE IT AND FEEL IT OUT AND SEE THAT THERE'S SOME INTEREST IN IT.
AND THEN GO FROM THERE BEFORE ALL THE BOARDS GET TANGLED UP IN MINUTE, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
NEXT THING IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW I MAY I MOVE WITH DR.
REMAINING ITEMS LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THESE ITEMS NINE ACTUALLY, EXCEPT FOR NINE AND SIX.
WELL, WE HAVE A, I LIKE TO PULL, UH, ITEM SEVEN FOR DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OR A NEIGHBOR THAT LIVES OUT IN THE, UH, MARTIN MARIETTA QUARRY AREA.
THAT'S HERE IN, AT THE MEETING TONIGHT AND SHE MIGHT WANT TO ADD SOME COMMENTS, BUT I THINK ESPECIALLY FOR SIX, SEVEN AND NINE, UM, I READ THEM ALL.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE OTHERS, SO OUTSIDE OF THE STATION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THE ROAD, PLEASE.
MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
AND YOU JUST WANTED AN UPDATE OF WHERE, WHERE WE ARE IN.
THE REASON I ASKED YOU SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING TO THIS, UM, AS YOU ALL RECALL AT YOUR LAST MEETING, YOU WERE PETITIONED BY CITIZENS OF, UH, THE ROCKY RUN COMMUNITY TO, UM, CONSIDER EXTENDING THE EXPERT TERRAFORM JURISDICTION.
UM, WHEN STAFF LOOKED AT THAT, THE AREA THAT
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YOU ARE GRANTED UNDER GENERAL STATUTES, ONE MILE, WE FELT LIKE WE PERHAPS SHOULD GO A LITTLE FARTHER THAN THAT AND THAT WE HAVE WILL LINES GOING OUT THERE AND IN SORT OF IN AN EFFORT TO FALL PROPERTY LINES, AS OPPOSED TO CUT ACROSS PROPERTY LINES.SO THAT PUT US IN A POSITION TO REQUEST THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, TO ALLOW US TO GO BEYOND THAT ONE MILE LIMIT.
UM, APRIL 19TH, OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS.
MIKE GABRIEL MADE THAT PRESENTATION TO THE COUNTY BOARD AND THE COUNTY BOARD ADOPTED A RESOLUTION, UM, ALLOWING THE CITY TO PROCEED WITH, WITH THAT PROCESS.
UM, WE ARE NOW, UM, HAVE SENT OUT NOTICES, STATUTES, REQUIRE THAT WE SEND WRITTEN NOTICES TO ALL AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNER.
SO YESTERDAY WE STUFFED 88 SONG ON ENVELOPES AND SENT ALL THOSE OUT.
AND, UM, AND THAT SCHOOL WEEKS AHEAD OF A, A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WE'RE ANTICIPATING HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING WITH YOU ALL ON THE 25TH.
AND OF COURSE WE'LL RUN SOME, UM, PUBLIC NOTICES IN THE NEWSPAPER AND WE'LL POST HANDS AND WE'LL DO ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED.
UM, I DIDN'T WANT TO, I WAS THERE FOR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT TO GET RATHER INTERESTING.
ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN FROM ANOTHER COMMUNITY WAS THERE IN OPPOSITION TO REQUEST OF THE CITIZENS.
AND, UH, SO THEY HAD QUITE A DISCUSSION THING.
SO I ENDED UP GETTING THE
NO, UM, THE, THE COUNTER COMMISSIONERS WERE VERY RECEPTIVE TO OUR REQUESTS AND THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE AND I LIKED THE IDEA THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER.
MR. PHILLIPS, I BELIEVE IT WAS, CAME OUT TO TALK WITH US AFTER THE MEETING AND ASKED THAT HE BE NOTIFIED IF YOU DON'T MIND, WHEN I GET READY TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CAUSE HE'D LIKE TO ATTEND.
I THINK HE REPRESENTS THE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE COMMISSIONER STAND UP AND THE COMMISSIONERS, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE VERY SUPPORTED.
OH, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE OUT? OKAY.
WHAT KIND OF STEPS ETJ, UH, MORE THAN ONE MILE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ROAD PLEASE? MA'AM YES, YES, YES.
MR. BROWN, YOU PULLED A NUMBER SEVEN, NUMBER SEVEN, UH, SINCE IT'S SUCH A MAJOR UNDERTAKING THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH TO, UH, UTILIZE THE INQUIRY FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT, UH, AND UH, THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA.
AND ACCORDING TO MS. HUSKER A LITTLE BIT, UH, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
AND WE JUST, SINCE WE GOT ALL THE PEOPLE HERE TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE HER FEARS, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HEAR HER TONIGHT AND TO TRY TO ANSWER ALL OF HER QUESTIONS SO SHE CAN GO HOME, UH, UH, HAPPY THEY WERE GOING TO PURSUE THIS.
WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU YOUR CONCERNS.
I REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU ALL, WHEN THIS TIME, THE PAPER BEFORE, AND I CAME DOWN TO SPEAK TO MR. GAMES, DAN AND TOLD YOU ABOUT ALL THE WILDLIFE AND ALL THE BEAUTIFUL, THE BEAUTY IS BACK THERE.
AND I'M GOING TO GET MY NEIGHBOR AND INVITE YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO SEE, THIS IS ONE OF THEM, BUT I'M GOING TO GET ON THAT, THAT LITTLE CAMERA RIGHT THERE OUT.
I WANT YOU ALL TO TELL US THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SO MANY TIMES WE'RE TOLD THINGS AT THE END, THEY DON'T COME TO PASS, BUT I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO LET US KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL WATER THERE.
EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE GREAT, BUT NOT.
I HAD HER LITTLE CRITTERS BAILEY AND UP AND ALL THIS STUFF FROM, FROM THIS, THIS, UH, PROJECT YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO BECAUSE THAT'S IN MY BACKYARD.
I REMEMBER I WAS TELLING HIM, I WAS TELLING THIS GENTLEMAN TONIGHT, THAT MACDOWELL TOLD ME YEARS AGO WHEN STONY HILL WEST WAS GOING TO GO IN RIGHT ACROSS MY MIND.
Y'ALL DITCH ALL HIS BE GREAT, NO PROBLEMS. WELL, LIFE HAS NOT BEEN THE SAME, STARTING A WEST.
SCREAMING WOMEN AT 12 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, DIFFERENT THINGS, TRASH ALL OVER MY YARD.
I'M ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING I'VE LIVED THERE 20 YEARS.
I'M PUTTING A FENCE UP JUST TO SEE IF I CAN KEEP TRASH OUT THE FRONT OF MY YARD, BUT I JUST WANT I'M HERE REALLY FROM MR. GANGS.
AND I WILL HAVE A WHOLE LONG AS HE'S A PRECIOUS MY HAND, BUT HE CAN'T HEAR AND HE'S LOST HIS SIGHT.
SO I'M HERE REALLY FOR HIM TO PUT HIS MIND THAT HE, AND YOU'VE TOLD US THAT THIS WATER IS GOING TO BE DRINKABLE.
REALLY? THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE SAID.
YOU'VE SAID WE COULD TAKE A LITTLE GLASS BACK THERE AND ZIP IT.
AND IS THAT THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY EVER SAID YOU COULD DRINK, DRANK ANYTHING.
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WE WERE SAID, YOU COULD BREAK IT.YOU COULD DRINK IT WITHOUT DRINK ON THE RIVER.
IF THAT THOUGHT IT WAS NOT POLLUTED.
IN OTHER WORDS, THAT, THAT WATER'S GOING INTO THAT AT LAKE.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I BET THAT CRANKY, BUT I MADE, YOU KNOW, LONG ALMOST.
IF I GOT TO THAT POINT, DAVID, WOULD YOU LIKE THIS? IF THEY KEEP THEIR VIDEOS FROM THAT TIME THAT WE WERE HERE BEFORE, AND THE LITTLE, THE, THE ROUND TABLE YOU HAD DOWNSTAIRS, YOU ALL TOLD US THAT IT WAS THE WATER WOULD BE SO CURIOUS THAT YOU DRANK THAT WE WALK OUT SO THAT WE EVER SAID HE COULD DRINK THE WATER.
IF YOU WANT TO DRINK IT, YOU CAN MAKE ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY IT CAN BE A BIRD THAT, UM, SIMILAR STATEMENTS WERE MADE.
THIS IS A PROCESS THAT W THAT IS ONE STEP FROM DRINKING WATER AND MANY WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATORS THAT HAVE HAD THIS PROCESS FOR QUITE SOME TIME WILL DRINK A WATER BECAUSE OF COURSE IT'S CHLORINATED BEFORE IT'S DISCHARGED.
AND, UH, THERE ARE NO PATHOGENS IN IT.
NO JUST LIKE AROUND NEWPORT NEWS AND THOSE PLACES, THE LAKES, THE LAKES THAT THEY'VE GOT IS WHERE THEY DUMP THEIR SEWAGE, BUT THEY HAVE TO PROCESS THAT WATER AND THEY DRINK IT.
AND A LOT OF PLACES IN CALIFORNIA DOES THE SAME THING WE GET READY TO DO.
AND THEY DECLARED THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S CLEAN ENOUGH TO SWIM IN.
WHEN DID YOU SWIM IN IT? YOU DRINK A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF IT.
BUT TO SAY THAT THE CITY HAS GOT TO FIND A, TREAT THAT WATER FOR DRINKING WATER.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOBODY OUT OF BREATHABLE THIS BOY WHO SAID THAT, I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T BE DRINKING OUT OF THAT CAR RIGHT NOW, WOULD YOU? WELL, I MEAN, INTENTIONALLY, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND DRINK.
AND IF WE, AND IF WE SAY THAT WE'LL HANG TO IT, BUT YOU KNOW, ALL I'M SAYING IS IT WAS NEVER SAID IT WAS DRINKING WATER.
IT IS DRINKABLE WATER, BUT I MEAN, IT'S NOT MAKING PATHOGENS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE WATER.
SO WAIT, AND I'LL MAKE THAT STATEMENT AS TO THE EXTENSION OF THE TESTING THAT WE'VE MADE PEACE OF MIND.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, ON OUR PAYROLL, I GUESS YOU'D CALL IT.
BELLIS, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SIERRA CLUB IN NORTH CAROLINA.
HE IS DOING AN ACTUAL STUDY GROUP.
THE ONLY REAL CONCERNS WE HAVE ABOUT THE LIGHT IS OUT THERE.
AND HE HAS BEEN PERFORMING A STUDY NOW, AND HE IS GATHERING DATA ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED OUT THERE.
AS THIS PROJECT PROGRESSES, HE WILL CONTINUE TO DO A STUDY AND HE WOULD BE THE BAND THAT WILL TELL US WHO WE NEED TO INTRODUCE INTO THE LIGHT TO BE MORE OUT.
AND WE NEED TO DO SOME SORT OF TREATMENT TO REDUCE THE ALLERGY, THAT HIS BIGGEST CONCERN.
AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUT OUR EFFORTS, BECAUSE OTHER THAN THE ALLERGY TAKING PLACE, THE EXTRA NITROGEN THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THAT LIGHT, WHICH IS A SMALL AMOUNT OF COMPARISON TO WHAT WE'RE DISCHARGING THEM NOW TO THE RIVER.
THAT IS OUR MAJOR CONCERN THAT IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, TO CONTROL THE MOST WHEN THIS PROJECT AND THE FISH SHOULD NOT BE AFFECTED AT ALL BY OUR DISCHARGE.
IT DOESN'T AFFECT WHAT GOES IN THE RIVER.
NOW
AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MARTIN MARIETTA HIS PLACE TO MIND THE LIMESTONE OUT OF THE PIT.
WHAT AM I FEELING TO SEE HERE? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY MIND THAT AS DEEP AS IT WAS ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO GO BECAUSE OF THE WATER TABLE, CREATING TOO MUCH FLOODING TO MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE, TO PUMP THE WATER OUT FAST ENOUGH TO CONTINUE MINING IT.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF LIMESTONE WAS STILL IN THERE, BUT YOU CAN ONLY DIG SO DEEP BEFORE IT COSTS YOU TOO MUCH TO TAKE IT OUT, TO MAKE IT WORTHWHILE.
SO THERE'S, THERE IS LAMPS DON'T LIVE THERE.
WELL, IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT THE WILDLIFE ALSO THAT SURROUND HER BECAUSE WE HAVE CANADIAN YEAST THAT HAD MIGRATED IN HERE.
WE'VE SEEN THE YARN AND ALL THAT WE'RE TOLD
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THE GEESE OR ANYBODY ELSE WON'T KNOW ANY DIFFERENCE THEY'RE HAVING TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT IS BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAYS, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME NITROGEN.THAT'S VERY SLIGHT AMOUNT OF NITROGEN, BUT YOU KNOW, NITROGEN IS FERTILIZER.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN THAT WE DON'T CAUSE AN ALGAE BLOOM AND YOU LOOK OUT AND SEE OUT AS HOW MUCH RESEARCH IS GOING INTO THIS LAND BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING.
OTHER WORDS ARE ALL RIGHT, TIM, JUST TO MAKE IT SO YOU COULDN'T TELL ANY DIFFERENCE, PERIOD.
DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF TESTS BY THE FEDERAL AND STATE PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY HEAVILY BY THE STATE TO AGREE WITH WHAT WE ARE TELLING THE PEOPLE THAT, AND IT'S GOING TO DO.
IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY AND THE CITY ENGINEER BY THEMSELVES.
THIS, THIS HAS HAD TO GO A LONG WAY TO EVEN GET APPROVAL FROM, FROM, UH, UH, HIRE PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE.
WELL, I HOPE THAT'S THE CASE BECAUSE I HAVE TO PUT WITH MY DAD USED TO SAY, YOU START PRACTICE.
WELL, YOU CAN'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE AFRAID THAT THIS BOARD IS PURPOSELY WANTING TO DESTROY SOMETHING.
THAT THAT VIEW IS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.
WELL, THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THAT IS THE ANSWER.
AND THE MAYOR HAS SAID IT MANY, MANY TIMES, UNLESS HE IS 100% AND NO WAY IT'S GOING TO HARM IT, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE RIGHT.
WE ARE NOT HERE TO RULE IN OUR ENVIRONMENT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE HAVE EVERY BIT OF INFORMATION WE CAN GAIN.
AND THIS IS NOT NEW TECHNOLOGY.
THIS IS NEW TECHNOLOGY TO NORTH CAROLINA, TO THIS AREA.
BUT THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN IN USE FOR OVER 20, 30 YEARS IN SOME OTHER STATES.
NOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE LITTLE GOTCHAS IN THAT DRINKING AND BEING ABLE TO GO IN AND SWIM IN THE LAKE AND EVERYTHING IS THE FACT THAT NORTH CAROLINA HAS A REGULATION THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T SWIM AND WATER.
THAT HAS COME FROM A SEWAGE TREATMENT FACILITY.
AND THAT LAW WENT INTO EFFECT A LONG TIME AGO WHEN SEWAGE TREATMENT WAS MORE AFRAID THAN REALITY IN CALIFORNIA, THERE WAS NO SUCH RULE.
AND THEY ACTUALLY DIG PITS AND FILL IT WITH EFFLUENT AND KEEP IT FILLED AND TURN THEM INTO RECREATIONAL AREAS FOR CANOEING, FOR BOATING, FOR SWIMMING, ET CETERA, THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME PROHIBITIVE LAWS THAT WE DO HERE.
AND THIS, I DON'T KNOW, THIS MAY BE WHAT CHANGES THE LAW IN NORTH CAROLINA OVER A PERIOD OF SHOWING THAT IT'S ALL RIGHT.
AND AS FAR AS DRINKING THE WATER, WE PROBABLY ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN IN THE MILITARY IS PROBABLY DRUNK A LOT WORSE.
AND THE, UH, THE ASTRONAUTS DRINK RECYCLED HUMAN WASTE.
THEY DON'T CARRY ENOUGH WATERFALL.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, AS FAR AS IT BEING DRINKABLE, YES, IT WILL BE DRINKABLE AS FAR AS YOU DO.
YOU WANT TO GO OUT THERE EVERYDAY FOR A FIVE GALLON BUCKET FULL OF IT? PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE WHAT COMES OUT OF YOUR FAUCET, IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT THE DEGREE IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY SMALL.
AND IF IT WILL MAKE YOU HAPPY, WELL, IT'LL ALREADY BE OVER.
I STARTED TO SAY, WHEN WE START PUMPING IT IN THERE, I'LL GO OUT THERE AND DIP A GLASS OF WATER OUT OF THAT LAKE AND DRINK IT.
IT WOULDN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
LET ME ALSO SAY THAT WE WILL KNOW THE CONDITION OF THE WATER.
I SAID THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO, WHICH IS OPPOSED.
AND NOW YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW THE CONDITION OF NOT IN THAT WATER, BUT WATER ALL OVER THE PLACE IN THE RIVER OR WHATEVER.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, AND I MADE THIS STATEMENT AND ALWAYS PAID THEM OUT OF THAT.
IN THE VERY BEGINNING, I WAS BORN AND RAISED WHAT RAISING I GOT WAS OUT IN THAT NECK OF THE WOODS.
AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT I WOULD DO TO HARM THAT AREA AS MUCH HELP AS THIS IS GOING TO BE THROUGH THE WHOLE AREA AROUND HERE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DOING IT JUST FOR AN EXERCISE, BUT WE'RE DOING IT AND TRYING TO SOLVE THE TERRIBLE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE GOT IN THIS HUGE RIVER BASIN, BECAUSE ALL OVER THE PLACE, PEOPLE SAPPY TANKS TO FAILING.
A LOT OF THEM DON'T EVEN KNOW IT YET, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO FIND IT OUT.
SO THERE'S GOT TO BE A PLACE TO TAKE THIS, TO AND TO DO THE RIGHT THING TO IT.
SO WE, AS THE PHYSICIAN HAS CHARGED, YOU FIRST DO NO HARM.
AND MIKE, IN THE CASE OF THE CONSULTANTS AND THE CITY ENGINEER AND ALL OF THEM, I ASKED THEM IN THE VERY BEGINNING BECAUSE I FAMILIAR WITH SCIENCE A LITTLE BIT.
AND I SAID, WHAT KIND OF PEER REVIEW IS THERE GOING TO BE DEVIL? AND THE RANDY GOULD TOLD ME TRIPLE PEER REVIEW, WHICH MEANS IT HAS TO RUN BY EXPERTS.
THEY AGREE THAT EVERYTHING IS BEING DONE WILL WORK WORKS AS IT'S ADVERTISED.
WE JUST SPENT WHAT A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING THOUSAND MORE DOLLARS
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AND NO ASS OUT OF MY WHAT'S IT BEEN EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS AND HAD THE OPTION ON THE QUARRY EXTENDED, WHICH COST US MORE MONEY TO DIG MORE HOLES BECAUSE THE, UH, SCIENTISTS WERE INVOLVED THAT WERE INVOLVED WERE, WE'RE ALMOST POSITIVE ABOUT ONE LITTLE IDIOSYNCRASIES IN THE FLOW OF THE UNDERGROUND WATER, RIGHT.THEY WEREN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE.
AND WE SAID, WELL, WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO BE ABSOLUTELY SURE.
OH, WELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUNDRED AND A BUNCH OF MORE HOLES, THE DRILL WE PUT OFF, GRILL MORE HOLES.
OKAY, WELL, I'M FINISHED WHAT I'M GOING TO, BUT I WON'T LEAVE YOU ALL WITH AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR, I'M NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO COMMENT ON THIS.
I JUST WANT ALL OF YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE HAS SAID, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF THIS WAS YOUR BACKYARD? THANK YOU.
I DO REMEMBER THE MAYOR MENTIONING THAT WHEN THAT WATER PERSON FIRST STARTS FLOWING, YOU'LL BUY HIM A PAIR OF RED SPEEDOS AND JUMPING IN AND SWIMMING.
AND THE REASON THAT IS OF SIGNIFICANCE IS I AM A PERSON WHO IS AFRAID OF GERMS. I'M JUST ABOUT AS BAD AS HOWARD HE USED.
SO I THOUGHT THAT ANYBODY REALLY KNEW ME AND KNEW THAT I WOULD JUMP IN.
IT MEANS THAT I'M PUTTING MY CELL PHONE ON THE LINE, BELIEVE ME WHEN I GO IN IT.
SO, ANYHOW, UH, ONE MORE COMMENT FOR THE RECORD ON THIS IS THAT A NEW TREVOR FOUNDATION HAS LOOKED AT THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE.
AND THE NEUSE RIVER FOUNDATION HAS ENDORSED THIS PROJECT, BOTH TO THE STATE AND TO THE CLEAN WATER MANAGEMENT TRUST FUNDS.
SO MY RELEASE IS ABOUT TO BREAK WIDE OPEN TO SAY SOMETHING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I WAS HARTMAN.
I TALKED ONE DAY BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS CONCERN IN A FIFTH WARD NEAR THAT AREA.
AND WE WERE HOPING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A, UM, A PUBLIC MEETING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO TALK ABOUT THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING SO THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS AND MAYBE GET SOMEONE FROM ONE OF THE SCIENTISTS TO COME AND ANSWER THE QUESTION SO THAT PEOPLE COULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY INTACT NEEDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH, WELL, THAT'S GOOD.
LET'S DO BRING THE VARIOUS SIDE, THEN BRING ME UM, THERE WE, THERE WILL BE, WE WILL BE ALLOWING SOME FISHING BACK IN THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE, OR WHETHER IT WON'T NEED TO BE CONTROLLED.
IT'D BE UP TO THE STATE TO CONTROL THAT WITH US.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WHAT THEY DID PART OF THAT.
ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CONTROLS ON THE LAKE AND IT MAY BE THAT THERE WOULD BE A GOOD SPOT FOR FISHING, OR THERE MAY BE ANOTHER SPOT ON THE LAKE PROVISION OR WHATEVER, BUT THERE WOULD BE SOME FISHING ALLOWED IN THERE.
SO, BUT WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT IS A GOOD TIME FOR YOUR SON INSTEAD OF A FORUM, A MEETING I'D LIKE US TO GET OUT OF HERE, JUST LIKE WE HEAR IT.
AND BY THE WAY, IF ANYBODY HEARS ANY RUMORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH MOST OF THE TIME YOU DO ANYWAY, PICK UP THE PHONE, GIVE US A CALL BEFORE IT GETS TURNS INTO, I HEARD THIS, OR I HEARD THAT AND WE'LL TELL YOU EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT IT.
ROY GAMES, GRANDSON IS HANDLING HIS INTEREST IN IT.
AND HE'S A MEMBER OF MY CHURCH.
AND ANYTIME HE HAS A, HE ASKED ME AND WE TALK, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FREQUENTLY.
AND AT THIS POINT HE SATISFIED AT THIS POINT, HE'S SATISFIED THAT IT'S GOING PROPERLY.
HE'S CONCERNED HE DOESN'T GET CHEATED OUT OF ANY MONEY AND HE IS NOT GOING TO GET CHEATED, CHEATED OUT OF ANY MONEY.
THERE ARE, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU CONCERN AGAIN, IF ANYBODY HEARS IN THE THING OR WHATEVER, GIVE US A CALL.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING US DISCUSS IT WITH YOU AND NOT THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION CALL THE ROLL PLEASE, MAN.
I JUST PULLED THESE ISSUES JUST TO, UH, TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION SO THAT THE PEOPLE TO GET SOME DATES, YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS START A PROJECT OVER IN THE PAPER TOWN AREA.
AND THAT, DO YOU KNOW ANY ACTUAL DATES OVER THERE? I'M NOT POSITIVE ABOUT ANY ACTUAL DATES OF CONSTRUCTION? I DON'T HAVE GREG HERE TO ASK.
I DON'T HAVE ANY ACTUAL DATES.
UM, MR. MAYO HAS SHOWED ME THAT THIS WOULD PASS.
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VERSION.AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT BOTH OF THESE EIGHT AND NINE IS THAT THE ORIGINAL BEDS, THE CONTRACT HAD BEEN SELECTED DID NOT, COULD NOT FEEL THE OBLIGATION.
AND SO THAT KIND OF THING HOLDS IT UP SOMEWHAT WELL, IT'S A BIT THROWING SOME EXTRA TIME IN THERE TO RE SELECT AND THEN THOSE FOLKS HAVE TO DO THEIR WORK.
WELL, THEY DO THE APPRAISALS AND THEN THEY WOULD VIEW THE APPRAISALS AND THEN THEY WILL FAIR MARKET.
I JUST THINK WHENEVER WE HAVE AN ISSUE REGARDING, REGARDING THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO BRING IT OUT SO THAT THE COMMITTEE HERE, THAT IF THEY HAVE NOT YET SEEN JUST KNOCKING DOWN HOUSES OR BUYING ANYTHING AND LIFTING UP HOUSES THAT WE ALL AT LEAST WORKING TOWARDS, I'LL GET YOU THAT I'LL GET YOU A REPORT AND SHARE TO THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU'RE BLIND.
AND, UH, UH, BUT WE WILL BE MOVING VERY HASTILY ON THESE ISSUES.
WE LIKE TO GET SOME OF THESE THINGS DONE OR HURRICANE SEASON COMES BACK ON ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THESE RESOLUTIONS FROM THE EIGHT AND NINE.
AND YOUR FURTHER DISCUSSION, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
UH, I HAD GONE IMPORTANT ON MR. FRANCIS TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UH, MINI.
LIKE THE NOMINATE MR. CHARLES FRANCIS TO THE COMMITTEE.
ALL I EVER SAY I POSE IS LATE.
UH, NO, I WILL HAVE ONE NEXT TIME, BUT BRANDY THIS TIME, NOBODY ON THAT END.
NEXT THING WE HAVE AS MISCELLANEOUS MR. MADDEN, I DON'T HAVE ANY SHIP.
I NOTICED THAT A LETTER FROM CRAVEN COUNTY ADDRESSED TO THE MAYOR AND THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, WHICH SAYS DEAR MAYOR BAYLISS ON BEHALF OF THE CRAVEN COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS.
AND THE BOARD OF ALL OF THEM FOR RECENTLY, AGREEING TO WAIVE THE INSPECTION FEES AND CONNECTION FEES FOR UTILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE COOPERATION WE HAVE RECEIVED THUS FAR ON THIS PROJECT FROM THE CITY'S BOARD MANAGEMENT AND STAFF, UH, WHILE MR. SAMPSON IS HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT ALSO ON THE ASSISTED LIVING HOME THAT UNITED SENIOR SERVICES IS BUILDING DOWN IN TOWNSHIP SEVEN SO THAT WE CAN GET A LITTLE BREAK ON THE CONNECTIONS AND EVERYTHING DOWN THERE.
ALSO, WE ARE SCRATCHING FOR THE MONEY TO BUILD THIS FACILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED THE HOUSING AND THE COUNTY DOES CHARGE A RATHER HIGH RATE.
SO I THINK PERHAPS NOW THE CITY HAS SHOWN ITS WILLINGNESS TO BEND.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO THELMA CHADWICK AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND NOT APPRECIATED.
IF YOU WOULD AT LEAST TALK TO ALL ABOUT IT, YOU'D HELP SOME PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED SOME HELP.
REMEMBER, IT'S A COUNTY AGENCY.
THIS LADY CALLED ME ABOUT THIS DOCUMENTARY.
Y'ALL HAVE A LITTLE COPY OF IT.
AND IT'S A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT IT.
NEWS, WHEREVER, AND OTHERS DID MEET WITH ME AND SHE HAD CAR TROUBLE AND GOT STUCK IN RICHMOND OR SOMEWHERE.
ANYWAY, SHE SENT IN THEIR PAPERWORK AND YOU KNOW, I TOLD HER THAT ALL I COULD DO IS GO BEFORE AND SEE IF Y'ALL WANTED TO SUPPORT THIS THING SEEMS AS MOST EVERYBODY ELSE HAS AND THIS AND THIS, AND SHE PUT IT AS A POSITIVE SPAN ON THE KNEES, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT FACTUAL.
AND, UH, SHE SAID SHE PUT IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BAD THINGS THAT HAVE SAID BAD PUBLICITY ABOUT NEWSROOM.
AND THAT TYPE OF THING HAS GOT, GOT TO SPREAD ACROSS THE NATION AND THEY WANTED TO COME BACK AND JUST DO A TOTAL DOCUMENTARY ON WHAT LEAVES RIVER MEANT, WHAT THE HISTORY OF IT WAS AND WHERE IT'S GOING FROM HERE.
AND ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS I NOTICED IN IT IS THEY'RE TELLING ABOUT THE POSITIVE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING DONE.
HOPEFULLY LIKE OUR PROJECTS, IT SAYS A MIRROR SOMEWHERE, OOH, YOU DON'T HAVE THE GLASSES.
SO I'M MAKING LIKE, I CAN SEE IT.
OH, NOW I CAN NEVER SAY, HEY, I SEE WHERE IS IT? ANYWAY? IT SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE NEWS ROVER PROJECT FOR MANY REASONS.
THIS IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE THE PUBLIC AWARENESS LEVEL ABOUT ISSUES
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THAT REVOLVE AROUND THE RIVER.AND I STILL CAN'T SAY IT, BUT ANYWAY, IT TELLS YOU ABOUT THE POSITIVE THINGS NOW THAT WERE BEING DONE TO TURN THE RIVER AROUND AND ALL THIS KIND OF BUSINESS, IT'S GOT SOME OF OUR LOCAL LEADERS IN IT, LIKE BEAR WITH RENEWED GOVERNORS IN IT AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THE, UH, THE SCREENING OR OPENING ON MAY THE 24TH RIGHT HERE IN NEW ZEALAND, THE SHERIFF THEY'VE ALREADY DONE IT, THEY'VE DONE IT.
AND THEY WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GET SOME SUPPORT FOR PAYING FOR THAT OUT OF US.
WE'VE GOT A LOVE FOR THE NEWS.
THANKS MR. MAYOR, YOU ALL, I'M JUST ONE VOTE AND I GET THE VOTED LAST.
SO MR. MAYOR HAVING FOLLOWED THE PROGRESS OF THIS DOCUMENTARY WHILE IT WAS BEING SHOT AND KNOWING HOW MANY PEOPLE LOCALLY WORKED SO HARD TO GET IT DONE.
PEOPLE LIKE GEORGE BECKWITH AND THE NEUSE RIVER FOUNDATION.
AND, UH, THE LADY WHO'S NOW WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE GO JANNA BERT.
AND MY DAUGHTER, MICKEY COLLINS, WHO WAS ACCURATE WITH THIS, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, I'M GOING TO THROW IT OUT THERE.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE GIVE THEM THE, UH, SPONSORSHIP.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, THAT'S GOING TO BE OPEN RIGHT HERE.
AND SO I DON'T INFLUENCE ANYBODY, BUT IF YOU GO, THERE'S GOING TO BE HERE AND EVERYBODY IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH NOT TO SUPPORT IT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS TILL THE LIGHT, BUT I JUST BLASTED THROUGH IT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ASKING US FOR FIVE.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MADE A WHOLE BUNCH MORE.
WHAT A MAN, TRUST ME, 15,000 EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT ANYWAY, WE GOT EMOTIONAL A SECOND.
DO WE NEED TO CALL A ROAD? THIS IS A VOICE ABOUT IT.
THIS IS THE THING THAT YOU'VE ALWAYS SEEN IN THESE MEETINGS WHERE THE GUY THAT'S THE CHAIRMAN.
SO, UH, WHAT ELSE? I HAVE A VOICE, BUT MY HEARING'S NOT ALL THAT GOOD.
I MEAN A ROLL CALL AND SAY MY MIND IS NOT IN A GOOD AREA.
ROBIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONSIDER CHANGING YOUR VOTE TO MAKE IT UNANIMOUS? I KNEW WHAT THE HELL IS DOING NOW.
WE NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE LAND ACQUISITION POST