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WITH THE PRIOR ABOUT ROBERT JOHNNY PHILLIPS ROLL STREET, CHRISTIAN CHURCH, I CAN'T SEE VERY FAR AND NOT HEAR ABOUT COMMISSION SAXON.
YOU HADN'T DONE YOURS A LONG TIME HERE.
I WILL FOLLOW HIM OUR GOD AS WE THEM TO COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
WHEREAS PAUL REALIZED WE NEED YOU.
YOU CAN'T GET ALONG WITH THAT.
WELL, AFTER THAT, WE'RE BLESSED THE WHOLE BOARD, ALL OF THIS OUT, THE NEW PILE THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS WHILE YOUR PEOPLE, BUT MOSTLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU RIGHT NOW, FATHER, FOR ALL THE GOOD THINGS YOU'VE DONE TO NEWBURN AND SURROUNDING AREAS WILL PROBABLY BE THANK YOU FOR THE FELLOWSHIP.
IF YOU HAVE ONE REP ANOTHER WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THINGS, BELL, CALL BS AND DS ANOTHER BLESSING IN JESUS' NAME, WE PRAY.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.
WHAT WILL YOU CALL ROLL-OFF? I'VE BEEN INFORMED ALL THE NEW PHRASE.
HE'S OUT IN MY UNDERSTANDING REPLACES.
I JUST WANTED TO GET, GETS BETTER AND WE'LL BE BACK AT THIS POINT.
THAT'S ABOUT ALL I KNOW ABOUT IT, PLEASE, MAN, HERE, HERE.
FIRST THING WE HAVE AT NIGHT IS I MONTHLY REQUEST.
THESE DISHES SET US ON THE FRONT ROW THAT GOING TO COME FORTH AND SPEAK ABOUT SOME GENERAL TOPIC.
ANYBODY HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON A GENERAL CHEAP, CHEAP THAT I'M OUT OF HERE FOR THAT, WE'LL GO ON TO NUMBER FOUR HERE, INSTEAD OF WHERE THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY REQUIRE RENEWAL OF TAXI CAB FRANCHISES, WHICH WILL NOT EXPIRE IN THE ISSUE.
WHEN SOME NEW CERTIFICATES AS BEING, IT'S A NECESSITY THAT IS PERSONS, DEPARTMENTS AND CORPORATIONS, BUT WE HAVE APPLIED HOLDING.
SO WHO'S GONNA GET US OUT TONIGHT ON THAT.
I SAW FOLKS IN THE PACKET THAT YOU SENT IS ANYONE GOT ANY COMMENTS OR MR. WARD MIGHT HAVE MR. MAYA, THIS IS CLOSE TO THE OPPONENT HEARING ALL AFRICANS SHOW WHY THEY SHOULDN'T BE TAXES FRANCHISE.
IT USUALLY WORKS OUT JUST LIKE IT HAS TONIGHT.
NOBODY HAS ANYTHING TO SAY AS A BOARD, JUST ACTING ON THE ORDERS YOU HAVE IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE, YOU KNOW, AND THIS WHICH WOULD APPROVE THE FRANCHISE, THE ISSUANCE OF FRANCHISES TO THOSE WHO SEEK TO HAVE THEM RENEWED.
AND THOSE WHO HAVE APPLIED FOR THEM, IT HAS TO BE ADOPTED ON TWO SEPARATE AT TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS.
SO THIS WOULD BE APPROVAL ON THE FIRST READING TONIGHT.
IF THAT'S YOUR PLAY, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOING TO SPEAK ANYBODY IN OPPOSITION TO THESE FRANCHISES, MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE DR.
WINANS MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE.
ON FIRST READING, I HEARD A SLAP, YES.
NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER MANNING ARTICLE 11, SECTION 15 DASH 15, ARTICLE 10, SECTION 15 DASH 1 46 AND ARTICLE 11, SECTION 15, THAT 1 64 MOBILE HOMES OUTSIDE THE MOBILE HOME PARKS.
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TO THE WORK SESSION WHERE WE DISCUSS OUR CONCERNS ABOUT MANUFACTURED HOUSING AS IMPACTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.AND WE'RE DIRECTED PLANNING STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF A NEW ORDINANCE OR SOME SORT OF MECHANISM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE WORKING HAPPY THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY IS GONE BACK INTO AND BASICALLY REVISE THE ENTIRE SECTION, REPLACE AN ENTIRE SECTION.
UH, WHAT WE'VE ADDED NOW IS IN THE OLD DAYS, WE HAVE BASICALLY ONE DEFINITION.
WE'VE NOW SET UP THREE DIFFERENT CLASSES FOR MANUFACTURED HOUSING TO DISTINGUISH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAY A SINGLE WIDE, A MULTI-SECTION AND GIVE US A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY, A LITTLE MORE CONTROL ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE.
THE SECOND THING THAT WE DID IS WE REQUIRED THAT MANUFACTURED HOUSING OUTSIDE OF A MANUFACTURED HOME BAR WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A NATION RIGHT NOW NATION.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IS THAT THESE WELLINGS WITH THE VINYL OR OTHER METAL SKIRTING THAT GETS KICKED OUT, IT'S NEVER REPLACED.
IT'S A NEW SENTENCE JUST REALLY HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE APPEARANCE IN COMMUNITIES.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE WERE THE OTHER MAJOR POINT IS THAT WE'VE RESTRICTED THE USE OF SINGLE WIDES TO THE ART 25, WHEN YOU FEEL LESS URBAN, LESS DEVELOPED AREAS.
UM, BASICALLY THESE STRUCTURES NOW WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE IN THE RCX, UM, IN THE RCX OR MORE URBAN COMMUNITIES.
WE PUT MORE STRINGENT STANDARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING IS SIMILAR IN APPEARANCE AND SET UP TO WHAT THE CONVENTIONAL HOUSING IS.
UM, SO IF THEY WERE TO PUT 180 WITH GOING SALWAY WOULD GO FACING STREET, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE REQUIRED TO, TO ADDRESS THAT IS, UM, FIRST OF ALL, ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES IS WHERE WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT SETBACK, DIMENSIONAL DENSITY REQUIREMENTS FOR MANUFACTURED HOUSING.
WE SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT THAT.
WE FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD MEET THE SAME STANDARDS AS CONVENTIONAL HOUSING.
UM, SO THE ORIENTATION IS NOT SO MUCH AN ISSUE, BUT A CONVENTIONAL HOUSE HAS A DOOR ON THE FRONT AND THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE.
SO IF THEY CAN PURCHASE A MANUFACTURED HOME THAT HAS A DOOR ON THE FRONT AND THEY WILL CONSTRUCT A CURTAIN WALL AROUND IT AND I'LL MAKE AN AREA AND THEY'LL PUT A, A LANDING AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT ROOF PITCH, AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF THREE 12, THEN IT COULD GO IN THERE.
BUT WE FEEL WITH, WITH THOSE CHANGES, WHAT YOU HAVE IS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING HOUSING.
WE WERE WORKING FOR A BALANCE IN OUR APPROACH, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTION FOR FOLKS.
UM, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
WE FELT THIS WAS THE MIDDLE GROUND, BUT HE HAS A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE ON THE ONES THAT EXIST IN MY RIGHT.
AND THE ONES THAT DO EXIST, ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS BEING PUT ON THEM TO UNDERPIN OR I'LL BRING THEM UP TO ANY PARTICULAR STANDARD? UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF THOSE, OUR GRANDFATHER, UM, HOW ARE THROUGH OUR MINIMUM HOUSING CODE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR THOSE UNITS THAT THE SKIRTINGS WE REMOVED OR DAMAGED, WE COULD THROUGH FORCE ME TO GO BACK AND, UH, YOU KNOW, APPLY PRESSURE TO THEM TO, TO MAKE CHANGES, BUT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MASONRY SKIRTING THAT WE ARE NOW REQUIRING.
UM, SO BASICALLY IN A NUTSHELL, UM, WE'VE ADDED STANDERS, RESTRICTED, THE USE OF SOME MANUFACTURING HOUSING TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY.
WE'VE CHANGED THE SETBACKS REQUIREMENTS TO BRING IT MORE IN LINE WITH CONVENTIONAL HOUSING.
UM, WE'VE UPDATED OUR LANGUAGE TO BRING IT, UM, MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT TODAY'S INDUSTRY ALLOWS US TO DO THE OLD DAYS OF THE MOBILE HOME, YOU KNOW, AT ONE PASS.
AND WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT MANUFACTURING HOUSING, THERE, THERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT CLASSES AND THAT YEAH, YOU CAN BUY MANUFACTURED HOMES THAT ARE MORE EXPENSIVE AND IN SOME WAYS NICER HOUSES.
SO, UM, THAT IS THE PROPOSAL IN A NUTSHELL, AND I'LL STEP OUT AWAY.
SO CITIZENS CAN COME UP AND COMMENT.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMMENTS IF YOU'RE AWARE OF PRO AND CON UM, TIMES I'VE RECEIVED SO FAR, I'VE BEEN POSITIVE.
I'VE DEALT MAINLY WITH CITIZENS FROM THE WOODRUFF PENBROOK, UM, AND THE TOTAL AREA.
AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS HERE.
I WAS AT A COMMUNITY WATCHING MOVIE LAST NIGHT AND WOODROW AND THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING WAS A MAJOR CONCERN TO THEM.
SO I'LL LET THEY'RE REPRESENTING THE REPRESENTATIVES.
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CITIZENS PROPERTY.THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT
WE CAN HEAR PEOPLE SPEAK UP FOR ME, BUT SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T AND THEY WONDER TO NOT
BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'D LIKE TO JUST ELIMINATE THEM, IS THAT RIGHT? OR ARE YOU AGREEING WINDOWS TIGHTENING UP
THEY ALL KNOW THIS ALREADY, BUT
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WAS THAT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW REALLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING, BUT THE INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT, THEN I GO AGAIN BUT WHAT I'M ASKING YOU THOUGH, IS ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE TONIGHT, WHICH IS TO TIGHTEN UP ON THE TRAILERS, ARE YOU FOR, I MEAN, I THANK YOU.I HEAR YOU SAYING YOU DON'T WANT TO TRY THOSE PERIODS, BUT ON ESSAY SHE DENIED IT.
YOU FOLLOW THE TIGHTENING UP ON THEM OR AGAINST THIS TITLE.
IT'S NOT THAT ONE ON NEAR FLORIDA AVENUE.
UM, BUT HEY, I MEAN, BECAUSE I'VE CALLED HIM AND ASKED HIM THE INSPECTION DEPARTMENT AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
IF THEY WOULD LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE HOW THAT MAN WAS MOVING THAT TRAILER, AND THEY TOLD ME THE SAME THING THAT HE WAS IN HIS RIGHT.
AND HE HAD A PERMIT AND THAT HE COULD PUT THAT TRAILER THERE.
IT WAS ZONED AND HE WAS MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, MAY I HAVE SEEN, UH,
IT'S THE WORST INTERN REALLY? IT'S THE NASTIEST AWARD THAT WE HANG UP IF Y'ALL JUST RIDE THROUGH, YOU'LL SEE OUR MOVEMENT HOME.
AND, UH, I THINK GREG MENTIONED THAT WE MAY, UH, GRANDFATHER BIG OLDER TRAILERS IN THE, UH, I'M SAYING, HE SAID HE WAS GRANDFATHERED ME TO LEAVE
NOW THE CLEANING IS HANGING OFF.
I'M REALLY ASKING BOARD TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
A BIG PART OF
MATTER OF FACT, ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY, SOMEONE SOLD THE PROPERTY TO A MAN AND THE LANDLORD PUT THE TRAILER IN THERE AT AN ANGLE, NOT EVEN CONCERNED ABOUT IT, LEANING STRAIGHT, APPARENTLY WITH THE STREET.
I THINK THE WAY THE DRIVER GOT OUT THE TRUCK, THAT'S HOW HE LEFT THE TRAILER
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AND Y'ALL WOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER TAPPING UP ON THE TRAILERS.AND AS FAR AS SAYING WHY WE DON'T BELIEVE IT NOW, AND I KNOW I'M NOT AGAINST PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HOMELESS, DEFINITELY FOR LAND ON MOSTLY COMING OUT ON, PUT UP SAYING WHY AND GO BACK TO
AND, UH, I BEEN IN POWER, SO I'M NOT REALLY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THE LANDLORD, BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED SOME HELP.
AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
THAT WOULD IT BE ALL FOR REVIEW OR MAYBE ASK THE BUSINESS BACK TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR WOUNDS THAT AREN'T THERE, MAYBE ONE OR TWO TIMES WITH PATRICK TEN THIRD TIME, PUT CARD, FOOT, NORTH SILENT DETER.
SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THEM AND
CAN WE REQUIRE THEM TO KEEP IT UP? IF IT'S NOT BAD ON TO PUT IT BACK, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE HOUSING CODE, WHATEVER TRAILER ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE, YOU HAVE TO OWN.
PUT IT IN THERE, START WITH WHEN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO KEEP YOU REQUIRED TO KEEP AT NIGHT ON THIS ONE, WHERE MORE FIRE YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU THAT THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY COMMENT ON THE TRAINERS? MOVE THE CLOTHES OVER HERE.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED THE ORDINANCE.
MAY I REMEMBER THE BOARD? MAY I MAKE A COMMENT FIRST, PLEASE? I GOT A TELEPHONE CALL GREG, AND SAY AFTERNOON, HE HAD REVIEWED THE TWO ORDINANCES OUT LAST WEEK AND HE SUGGESTED ONE TYPE OF DIRECTIVE THAT, AND HE SUGGESTED SEVERAL PARAGRAPHS DRESSING MAKE SECTIONS BE DELETED.
THEY WERE OF THE OPINION THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE MANUFACTURED HOMES TO BE USED FOR CONSTRUCTION SITES ON CONSTRUCTION SITES AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PLANS.
SO I'VE HANDED YOU, WHAT'S LABELED REVISED ORDINANCE TO WHICH HAS MADE THE CHANGES.
AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS THE ORDERS TWO THAT WERE SENT OUT ON FRIDAY WITH AN ORDINANCE TO SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ROAD, LADIES MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES.
I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE LOST BY BOTH MRS. VAN BERGEN.
DELAHUNT ABOUT THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS THAT WE LIVE IN IS, AND IT IS TRUE THAT IN DUFFY FIELD, PLEASANT HILL AND WOODROW AND HANDBOOK, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THAT, UH, RX SIX AND TRAILERS DO EXIST AND PEOPLE HAVE EXPLOITED IT AND IT LOOKS A MESS.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS SOME WAY THAT WE COULD, UM, LOOKING TO THE ORDINANCES OR HOUSING CODES AND FIND A WAY TO MAKE THOSE EXISTING TRAILERS SOME UP TO STANDARDS.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S GRANDFATHERED AS FAR AS THE OLDEST THAT WE HAVE JUST ADOPTED, BUT I'M BELIEVING THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO, UM, IN FIRST, THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY THERE TO DO SOMETHING BETTER ABOUT IT, BECAUSE LIKE IN SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THOSE THAT I SEE BEFORE THEY GET ALL MESSED UP AND CALL SOMEBODY AND PUT THEM IN THERE.
AND I KNOW, I KNOW FOR A FACT FACULTY, HE HAD THE SAME CONCERN SOME YEARS AGO.
AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE REVISED OUR TRAY ORDINANCES AS IT ADDRESSED TRAILERS.
AND IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
AND THEN I, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY CHANGES.
IT SEEMED ME, EVIDENTLY WE DIDN'T DO IT FORCEFULLY ENOUGH BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE STILL DRAGGING TRAILERS UP THERE AND JUST TURNING THEM SIDEWAYS.
AND I WAS UP THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY HAD TO AFFRONT A STREET, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ALLOWING THEM NOT TO I'VE ASKED
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ABOUT IT.AND THEY TELL ME THAT ACCORDING TO THE WORDS, AND IT COULD BE DONE THAT WAY.
SO I'M THINKING THAT YOU, IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE EFFORT IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT OUT WITNESSES AND, AND OUR HOUSING COLES AND WHOMEVER ELSE, WE NEED TO TALK TO ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THE TRAILERS THAT HAVE BEING DROPPED OFF.
I CALL THEM DROPPED OFF IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY JUST DROP THEM OFF AND SET THEM UP AND THEY PUT THIS 10 THERE AND THEN THEY RENT THEM OUT TO WHOMEVER.
AND I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE NEED HOUSING AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR MAJOR CONCERNS FOR PEOPLE TO NEED, THEY NEED DECENT HOUSING.
AND I THINK THAT WHEN THEY PUT THOSE TRAILERS THERE, MAYBE, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
WE CAN LOOK INTO ORDINANCES AND LEGISLATURE, YOU KNOW, FIND A WAY TO MAKE A DIFFERENT SPECIALTY WITH THE KIND OF MONEY THAT WE'RE INVESTING INTO THESE COMMUNITIES.
THROUGH CDBG DOWN THE AVENUE, THEY HAD HOUSES FOR YEARS.
THERE WAS NOTHING DOWN FIRST AVENUE, BUT HOMES AND SOMEBODY CAME AND DROPPED OFF FREE TRAILERS, YOU KNOW, WHICH MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
AND SO IF WE COULD ASK THAT THEY, THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR SOMEBODY WOULD LOOK INTO THESE ORDINANCES AND THESE RULES AND THESE ZONES, AND FIND A WAY FOR US TO ENFORCE THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THOSE TRAILERS THAT THEY'RE NOT CARING FOR TO DO SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY IN THESE PARTICULAR MEMBERS.
WELL, I PLAYED THE KEY THAT YOU, YOU HIT ON THE KEY.
AND THE KEY IS THEY WENT TO TRIAL AS FAR AS BROUGHT IN, LAND IT ON THE BEACH BEFORE WE'LL HOOK UP POWER TO IT.
AND WE HAVE A CHECKLIST OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS IT'S ORIENTED, RIGHT.
IT MAKES THE CODE INDEPENDENT, THIS AND THAT, THE OTHER, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE LANDLORD HIMSELF HAVING TO DO IT ON THE FRONT END, AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO RENT THE TRAILER.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT THE MONEY IN.
I MEAN, THEY REALLY SH THEY SHOULDN'T BE THE ONES TO PUT IT.
SO WE ALL DO TO TAKE CARE OF IT ON THE FRONT END TO MAKE SURE IT'S DISSEMINATED.
WELL, I THINK THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF IT ON THE FRONT END, BUT I GOT THE GRIEF PART OF IT, BARBARA, THAT MAYBE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WORKED OUT THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE THESE PEOPLE TO, TO HELP IMPROVE.
AND EVEN IF WE HAD TO SORT OF, YOU KNOW, UH, GET WITH SOME OF THESE RANDOM, UH, LOURDES IN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND TRY TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE ENTHUSIASM TO, I THINK THAT RECENT AMENDMENT THAT YOU DID, WHICH ALLOWS A $50 A DAY VIOLATION RATHER THAN JUST $50 TO GET OUT AND WORKING THOUGH.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL HAVE TO DO, BUT I THINK YOU'VE GIVEN THEM THE TOOL TO DO IT WITH THAT THESE GRAVES DEPARTMENT GREG'S AND JEWEL DEPARTMENT COMES UP AND HE'S RECOMMENDATIONS IS THE HALF THINGS.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE, THE LOOK, THE Y'ALL PLAYED THE CARD IN COMING ALONG AND FOLLOW IT UP LATER.
IT'S EASY THINGS TO KIND OF SHAKE OUT THE WAY YOU HAD ENVISIONED OR, UM, YES.
I MEAN, THIS, THIS WAS A CASE OF LOOKING BACK AT WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
AND ACTUALLY THERE WAS A TIME BEFORE ME, YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THAT WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WERE USING MANUFACTURED HOUSING.
AND SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE THIS.
THE IMPORTANT THING TO MATTER IS NOW THAT THEY'VE PASSED THE ORDINANCE, THESE MANUFACTURED HOUSING, THE ONES THAT YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PLACEMENT MODEL AND THE MATERIALS THAT THEY USE, THEY'RE NOW NON-CONFORMING SO, YEAH, THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED, THEY'RE THERE NOW, BUT, UM, IF SOMETHING SHOULD OCCUR, THEY SHOULD MOVE WITH MANUFACTURED HOUSING, NOT THE PLACES WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
SO THROUGH ATTRITION, WE'LL GET RID OF SOME, UM, ALSO IF I'M WRONG, THAT SHOULD WORK CORRECTLY.
BUT, UM, IF THE STRUCTURE TODAY CAN, FOR LIKE 80 DAYS WITH NO ACTIVE ATTEMPT TO SELL OR RENT DISRUPTOR, THEN THEY ALSO, I MEAN, YES, THEY HAVE ESSENTIALLY RIGHT NOW THE GRANDFATHER, BUT THEY CAN LOSE THAT.
SO WE'VE GONE BACK AND WE'RE TAKEN ACTION ALREADY AGAINST THOSE STRUCTURES.
AND IF WE HAVE THE PARTICIPATION OF THE RESIDENTS, THOSE WHO ARE IN THERE WHO CAN TELL US, THEY CAN TELL US ANOTHER BOSS THAT LOOK, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS REALLY RUN DOWN MOBILE HOME HERE, AND THEY'RE NOT RENTING IT.
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO ALSO.
AND WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT OUR
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE GOT SOME LAWS NOW TO, TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENT, BUT STILL I THINK A CAMPAIGN, UH, EVEN HEADED UP BY THE CITY TO TRY TO GET THE NEIGHBORS THEMSELVES, TO START IMPROVING AND, AND IN ALL GOOD, GOOD WORK.
I'VE SEEN IT WORK IN NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY IMPRESSION IS THAT THE CITY CODE HAS REQUIRED THAT THEY BE SKIRTING, BE APPLIED TO THESE THINGS AS THEY PUT IN MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT INITIALLY THE BOARD ADOPTED ENORMOUS MORTAR
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SKIRTING, CONCRETE BLOCKS THAT WAS CHANGED SOME YEARS AGO, BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE SKIRTING ON THESE MOBILE HOMES.AND I THINK THAT THE STAFF CITY STAFF CAN REQUIRE THEM TO PUT IT ON AND DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT'S RENTED PROPERTY OR OTHERWISE, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY CAN BE REQUIRED TO PUT THOSE SKIRTS ON.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT.
AND THEY DO ENFORCE THAT NOW, BEFORE THEY ISSUE POWER.
HOWEVER, JUST LIKE WITH ANY OTHER MINIMUM HOUSING CODE ISSUE, ONCE THERE'S 0.8, YOU'RE NOT GOING BACK AFTER THESE STRUCTURES.
WE WILL CERTAINLY RESPOND TO MORE AGGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT, WHICH WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WE DISCUSSED THAT UNCLE BLAKE DEFINITELY COMPLAINED IT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE US FORM US, A COMMUNITY OF COMPLAINANTS.
AND WHAT WE DO IS GO AROUND AND TELL OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I REALIZE YOU GUYS ARE ALL TAXED AND YOU HAVE JOBS TO DO, BUT, BUT YOU DO A VERY GOOD JOB IN TRYING TO IMPROVE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND WE COME UP WITH THESE LAWS AND WE PASS THESE ORDINANCES AND THEN WE PUT IT DOWN AND YOU ALWAYS SAY, OKAY, YOU GOT TO DO THIS.
AND THEN WE PUT THE BOOK DOWN, BUT I SAY, I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT DEBRIS FIELD AND WOODROW AND PLEASANT HILL.
AND I'M ALSO COMPLAINING ABOUT PEMBROKE ROBIN'S COMPLAINT, WHERE ROBERT IS COMPLAINING ABOUT BECAUSE, UM, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN HOMES OR WHO HAVE HOMES THAT THEY'RE RENTING, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS I MADE REFERENCE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.
AND SO WHEN WE NEED TO HELP YOU IN SOME WAY, YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF TRAILER VIGILANTES GOING ON, BUT WE'D LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, ESPECIALLY, SO YOU SAY TAKE K STREET, RIGHT? AND THE KINDS OF PLANS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY STREET AND THE CALVES OR PLANS TO HAVE FOR ELLINGTON AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THEN WE HAVE RECONCILED, WE GOT SOMEBODY WHO'S ALLOWED BECAUSE THEY GOT A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE THAT WE SEEM TO TAKE FOR GRANTED.
THEY ALLOWED TO JUST LET IT SIT THERE AND DETERIORATE THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO I THINK THAT IF, IF IT MEANS FOR US TO FORMULATE AS A LITTLE GROUP OF PEOPLE OR SOMEONE FROM YOUR STAFF TO JUST GO AROUND AND TAKE A LOOK AND LET THE NEIGHBORS START WRITING DOWN SOME AFTER TELL YOU WHERE TO GO, WE CAN HELP.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO DRAG IT, DRAG THIS ON.
BUT MY, MY STATEMENT TO THIS WILL BE THAT CITY HAS AN OBLIGATION.
THE OBLIGATION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE LAWS, THAT OWN THE BOOKS ON FORCE, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN OBLIGATION OF THE NEIGHBORS.
THERE'S ALSO AN OBLIGATION OF THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE HOME.
THERE'S ALSO AN OBLIGATION OF THE PERSON THAT LIVES IN THE HOME.
AND THERE'S ALSO AN OBLIGATION OF THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE INVESTED GRANT MONEY IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT TWO DAYS AFTER WE FINISHED THE HOME TO LOOK NICE A MONTH LATER, YOU CANNOT TELL THOSE AREAS WHERE THE GRANT MONEY HAS GONE.
AND EXCEPT THAT THERE IS AS NEW STREET PAVED STREET WITH SOME CURB, SOME DRAINAGE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S SAD THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE SIT HERE AND DISCUSS THIS PROBLEM.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE SAYING THE DEPARTMENT NEEDED TO THIS DEPARTMENT, BUT BOTTOM LINE IS NEIGHBORS.
OWNERS, TENANTS NEED TO DO THEIR SHARE OF THE WORK.
AND IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN TRAILERS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED IN THESE HOMES AND PLEASE LET'S UNDERSTAND.
IT'S NOT ALL RENTAL PROPERTIES.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE LIVE IN THEIR OWN HOMES THAT JUST MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS, LOOK BAD.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, AND WE DID A THING FOR THE LAST FIVE, 10 YEARS.
THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS PUSH FOR TAKE BACK THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THE DRUGS, YOU KNOW, I ASSUME NOW WE NEED TO START TAKING BACK NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE WE HAVE NASTY NEIGHBORS.
I MEAN, IT, IT, IT IS BAD, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THERE ARE TIMES, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE FENCES IN HISTORICAL DISTRICT.
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN SOME PEOPLE UPSET BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN RULES, BUT I'M TELLING YOU RULES SHOULD BE ENFORCED SOMETIME
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EVERYWHERE.BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE USE EXCUSES, WELL, NO, WE CAN'T DO THIS.
THEY CAN'T AFFORD, WELL, LOOK, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, ANYONE AND EVERYONE CAN AFFORD TO KEEP THEIR YARDS CLEAN.
THEY CAN AFFORD TO PUT THEIR TRASH IN THE TRASH CANS.
THEY CAN AFFORD A SUITE, THEIR PORT Y'ALL EVERYONE.
I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT.
AND I JUST THINK THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE AN EFFORT FOR ALL OF US TO JUST BEGIN TO TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND SAY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, YOU LIVING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU NEED TO BEGIN TO TAKE SOME PRIDE AND WHERE YOU LIVE.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LIVE HERE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT HARD FOR YOU TO LIVE HERE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST GOT TO BE SOMEWHERE ABOUT, AND IT CANNOT ALL RISK ON THE SHOULDER OF THE CITY.
BY MR. DILLON HUNT SAID, THERE ARE JUST SOME AREAS WHERE PEOPLE DO THEY DO.
AND OVER THE PAST YEARS BECAUSE OF MORALE AND NOT PUT IT USED TO BE BECAUSE OF POLITENESS IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE BECAUSE OF RESPECT.
THOSE THAT ARE AFRAID OF MOVING OUT, RENTING THE PROPERTY AND, AND THOSE THAT ARE RENTING HALF THE TIME DON'T CARE.
SO WHAT DID THEY DO? THEY JUST LIVE, SLEEP AT NIGHT, RUN SOMEWHERE DURING THE DAY, COME BACK AT NIGHT, DON'T CARE.
AND, AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S LITTLE THINGS, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR CAR IS DEAD AND IT'S BEEN DEAD FOR 10 YEARS, DO YOU PLAN TO REPAIR IT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, IT'S JUST BECOMING REALLY, REALLY BAD.
AND WHENEVER YOU HEAR SOMEONE SAID, YOU KNOW, I WANT, I'M GONNA MOVE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU LEAVING YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DETERIORATING, SAD TO SAY, I CAN'T AFFORD THE NICE NEIGHBORHOODS I LIKE TO LIVE IN MYSELF.
SO I'M HOPING THOSE ON BURN STREET WOULD KEEP BURN STREET CLEAN AND NICE.
I PRAY FOR THAT, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, WE GOT SOME AREAS WHERE PEOPLE DON'T CARE.
AND, AND LIKE I SAID, HE CAN'T REST ON THE CITY.
WE JUST GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK, TAKE BACK OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKE THE AREA LOOK NICE AGAIN.
BUT DO YOU NOTICE THAT ON THE WATCH, YOU'RE SAYING, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT MORE PRIDE IN GENERAL TODAY IN THE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS THAN THERE HAS BEEN IN MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND I MEAN, I'LL USE MYSELF AS AN EXAMPLE.
I MEAN, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP A PROMISE THERE, ONE OF THE KNOTS I STILL HAVE ON MY MOTHER, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT IT LIVED IN THE YARD OR WHATEVER.
BUT THE POINT IS THAT TODAY, I MEAN, YOU CAN TAKE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ONE EXAMPLE, AND IT LOOKED LIKE HISTORY, YOU KNOW, 10, 12 YEARS AGO, WHATEVER IT WAS.
I MEAN, IT WAS OLD AND NOT IN THE BEST OF SHAPE.
LOOK AT RIVERSIDE, LOOK AT WOODROW, LOOK AT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I THINK THAT GOING ALONG WITH WHAT YOU AND BORROWER BOTH SAID, THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE NOTICING SOME OF THESE PLACES THAT DON'T LOOK AS GOOD ANYMORE IS BECAUSE THE HOUSES AROUND THEM LOOK SO MUCH BETTER.
AND THAT IS A FORM OF PEER PRESSURE DEVIL WORK ON PEOPLE.
AND PEOPLE TAKE PRIDE AND THEY COME IN JUST VERY DISHEARTENING, DICTATE THE FISH AND STUFF.
AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE DOESN'T CARE.
BUT IF EVERYBODY AROUND HERE SOONER OR LATER, YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL LUCKY TO ODD MAN OUT.
SO I THINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS IS ENTIRELY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE YOU SAID, AN ADJUNCT TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
WE CAN'T MAKE IT HAPPEN, BUT WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE WE DID TONIGHT.
HOPEFULLY THAT WILL KEEP PUSHING IT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO SEE DONE A LITTLE BIT, THERE IS JUST LIKE SOME FOLKS SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT SOME PROBLEM AREAS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF THEY REPORT IT, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMEBODY HOPEFULLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
AND LET US KNOW THAT THEY MADE THESE PEOPLE AWARE THAT THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
AND EVEN PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDER THE GRANDFATHER CALLS, LET THEM KNOW THAT, HEY YOU, YES, YOU ARE GRANDFATHERED.
HOWEVER, TO REALLY BE UP TO SNUFF FOR THE DAY YOU NEED THIS AND THIS AND THIS, WE CAN'T MAKE YOU DO IT, BUT IT'D BE GOOD FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEN WE CAN MAKE THE ONES THAT WEEKEND WE NEED TO BECAUSE IT'S THE PRIDE I THINK IS GROWING IN THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE I GREW UP IN IS ABSOLUTELY GONE.
BUT, UH, TO THOSE OF YOU WHOSE HOUSES ARE STILL THE LANGUAGE YOU GREW UP, GREW UP IN AND OUT, I UNDERSTAND THAT PRIDE.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S NOT, WE NEED TO, WOW.
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PEOPLE WERE IN THAT MODE MANAGE IT.WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT, I USED TO LOVE TO SEE THE LITTLE LADY JUST COME UP AND SWEEP THE DIRT.
Y'ALL CAN SEE
I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ALL THAT AS A PROCEDURE FOR THAT YEAH.
WHAT HAPPENED WAS I THINK WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS BEFORE, WHEN THEY REQUESTED ZONING, PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T WANT IT.
THEY DIDN'T WANT YOUR SHIRT TOO.
SO THE MOST OF THEM DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE, BUT ONCE WE GET THE COMMUNITY, IF THE COMMUNITY WANTS IT CHANGED AND WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS TALK TO MR. GEORGE AND HE COULD TELL HIM THE PROCEDURE TO GO THROUGH OKAY.
DO WE HAVE, UH, LESLIE, WHY DON'T WE OKAY.
CONSIDER WAIVING BID REQUIREMENTS IN ARTICLE EIGHT, PUBLIC CONTRACTS AT CAPITAL 1 43 OF THE NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL STATUTES IN EXPLAINING THAT ILLEGAL I'VE JUST PASSED OUT A RESOLUTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
SECTION 1 43, 1 29, AND THE GENERAL STATUTE SETS UP THE BID REQUIREMENTS FOR CONTRACTS BEING NAMED TO BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT STATE AID.
IT SAYS, AND SONG THAT WAS AMENDED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
SO IS TO PERMIT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO PIGGY BACK AND EXISTING CONTRACT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES SET FORTH IN SUB PARAGRAPH G 1 43, 1 29.
IT SAYS IN EFFECT, IF THERE IS A SUPPLIER WHO HAS SUPPLIED, UH, APPARATUS PERSONAL PROPERTY TO THE UNITED STATES, ONE OF THE AGENCIES OF THE UNITED STATES FOR THE SAME NORTH CAROLINA OR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN
AND HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE BID REQUIREMENTS WITHIN 12 MONTHS PRIOR TO THIS EVENT, TAKING PLACE THAT THE CITY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT IN ORDER TO DO IT, IT'S NECESSARY THAT THE CITY WAIVE THE BID REQUIREMENTS AFTER CONSIDERING THE THINGS WHICH ARE IN THE STATUS AND AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OF THAT EQUIPMENT FROM THAT SUPPLIER, THIS RESOLUTION ADDRESSES THAT I HAD HOPED TO HAVE ONE WHICH WOULD ADDRESS THE PURCHASE OF THE FURNITURE THAT'S GOING TO BE USED TO FINISH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT INFORMATION DID NOT COME TOGETHER SO THAT I COULD CUP IT WITH THIS.
THIS ONE ADDRESSES SPECIFICALLY THE PURCHASE OF THE TELEPHONE SYSTEM FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FROM CAROLINA, TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH ALSO KNOWN AS SPRINT DBA SPRINT.
UH, THEY PROPOSED THAT THEY WOULD FURNISH, UH, THE PBX SYSTEM AND THEY CALLED FROM A FURNITURE, UH, NORTHERN TELECOM MERIDIAN OPTION, 11 PBX EQUIPPED WITH MERIDIAN MAIL OR WHATEVER THAT MEANS, UH, 30 BY TELEPHONE WITH DISPLAY 74 BASIC BLACK TELEPHONES WANT UPS 1500 VAX SIDE BATTERY BACKUP
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SYSTEM AND PLACE PATIENT WORK.AND THEY PROPOSE TO DO IT FOR THE SUM OF $76,526 MATERIAL, WHICH HAD BEEN FURNISHED, INDICATES THAT THEY IN FACT HAVE BEEN SUPPLYING.
THESE AGENTS IS DESIGNATED BY THE STATUTE.
SO THEY ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE SELECTED.
THE DOCTOR SAYS HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE BID PROCESS.
IN OTHER WORDS, I CALL STATE CONTRACT.
UM, ANY FUTURE PURCHASES, JUST THIS, BUT I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT ONE THING I THOUGHT IT SAID THE NEW OFFICE FURNITURE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT ALREADY.
UH, DO WE NEED A FEMINIST REVOLUTION FIRST OR WHAT? JUST TO LET THE RECORD SHOW THERE, LET HIM MAKE IT PART OF IT.
I'D SAY, GO AHEAD AND KNOCK THIS RESOLUTION, BUT JUST LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER IT.
THE BOARD WILL SET A, ANOTHER RESOLUTION PERHAPS AT THE NEXT MEETING UNDER THE SAME AVENUE.
THE NEXT THING IS THE PROBLEM HERE ON THE FISCAL YEAR, 1999 TO 2000 BUDGET HERE, AND THIS IS ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR WANT TO MAKE ON THAT? NICE TEENAGE.
THEY PUT OUT LAST TIME THAT WE SPENT A WEEKEND MOTHER AND I CAN G IT
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT? IF NOT, CALL ROLL, PLEASE.
I MEAN, ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE HEARING, SAY AYE, OPPOSED.
ORDINANCE WILL BE IN THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I'LL PULL ONE ITEM OFF OF THAT.
I NEVER WAS ABLE TO GET THE DESCRIPTION FROM ENGINEERING SO THAT I COULD PAY THE ORDINANCE, THE SIGNING, THOSE ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO THAT AREA, WHICH WAS TAKEN INTO THE ETJ AT THE LAST MEETING.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST COME UP AT THE MAXIMUM? IT WOULD COME UP AT THE NEXT MEETING.
ANYBODY, WHAT NUMBER I'M GOING TO REMAIN AN WAS ON LIKE A SYNERGEN WITH YOUR DOCTOR.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL ROLL, PLEASE.
DID YOU WANT TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS WITH LIAM? THE 16? YES.
UH, WE HAD, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS MONEY AND HE'S GONE.
JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY TIMETABLE, ANYTHING AS IT RELATES TO WHEN SOMEBODY'S GOING TO COME OVER THERE WITH A TRACTOR LIFT UP THE HOUSE START.
ACTUALLY BEGAN THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS NOW.
AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY TIME.
UM, IT'S APPROVED THIS EVENING.
WE'LL GET INTO CONTRACT SIGNED OR BEING POSITIONED TO AWARD CONTRACTS FOR IT, HOPEFULLY BY FIRST MEETING IN JULY, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN ENGINEERING FIRM OUT THERE EVALUATING PROPERTIES IN JULY, IN JULY OF 1999 IN JULY OF 1999.
UM, AS I EXPLAINED TO THE RESIDENCE LAST NIGHT, THE HOLD UP WAS WE NEEDED THE AGREEMENT, WHICH WE NOW HAVE, WHICH IF YOU WILL PROVE THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION AND WE HAVE THEIR MONEY, SO WE CAN ACTUALLY START
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WORK.ALSO, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT, UM, IT SAYS THAT YOU WAITING FOR SOME KIND OF APPROVAL FOR BIDDLE IN THESE ROADS.
UM, YES, THERE IS A STORM OR PUMP STATION AT, ON BOTH CORNERS THERE.
UM, WE HAD TO GET A LICENSE EASEMENT ARRANGEMENT WITH THE RAILROADS AND WRONG.
THE, THE MATERIALS UNDERNEATH, WE ALREADY HAD AN EXISTING PIPE THERE.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN LARGER PIPES, OUR LARGER PUMPS, WE NEEDED A LARGER PIPE.
UM, WE HAVE SINCE SIGNED OFF TO GET A CHECK CUT TO DOWN, WE'D JUST GOTTEN BACK AND AGREEMENT FROM WELLA SAID IT'S A FORMALITY.
NOW, AS I TALKED TO THE STATE TODAY, LOVE NARROW THAT WE WERE WRITING A CHECK TO THE VELA.
WE EXPECTED TO HAVE THEIR PERMISSION.
AND SHORTLY, AS SOON AS WE GET THAT, THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE FAST TURNAROUND WITH THAT GRANT.
AND THEN IT WILL BASICALLY COMPLETE OUR HAZARD MITIGATION PROJECTS IN TERMS OF GETTING OVER APPROVAL.
SO WHAT ABOUT THE LOCATION ROTATIONS WORK IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW? WE'VE COMPLETED FOUR.
WE HAVE FOUR THAT ARE EXCEPT FOR THE SURVEY OR RE ROSS MAKE OFFERS.
WHAT ABOUT THE AGE BROTHER STREET LOCATION? YEAH, THE EAST ROSE, UM, IS, IS A SEPARATE GRAPH APPLICATION, WHICH IS RIGHT NOW AT THE STATE.
WE'RE DEALING WITH AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GROUP.
THIS GROUP, UH, THE DIVISION OF COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE HAS BEEN VERY QUICK AND RESPONSIVE TO US.
UM, WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, URGENT NEEDS, MONEY WAITING FOR TWO YEARS, UM, WAITING FOR THE MITIGATION DOLLARS TO GET THROUGH.
AND THAT THE SAME THING IN THE WOODRIDGE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE, UM, DISASTER RECOVERY INITIATIVE FUNDS WAY REHAB OR FOLLOWING THE ELEVATION.
IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THE APPROVAL, THE APPROVAL OF THE MITIGATION DOLLARS DOLLARS.
THEN ALL THE DUCKS ARE FOR THE, THE WOODROW PROJECT.
ONCE THE AGREEMENTS OCCURRED, UM, THE PAY-DOWN PROJECT IS MOVING ALONG.
WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH RESIDENTS AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEY FOR OFFERS, CONTRACTS, ET CETERA.
UM, THE, THE ADDENDUM TO THE PROJECT, UM, ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE.
I MET LAST NIGHT AFTER THE WINTER MEETING WITH THE CRAVEN COUNTY BOARD COMMISSIONERS, THEY'RE GOING TO CALL THOSE PUBLIC ARE, THEY HAVE CALLED FOR A FORMAL HEARING IN DUBAI, AND THEY'RE GOING TO CONSIDER OUR REQUEST TO BE OUT, WHICH WILL MONITOR THE PURCHASES OVER THERE.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT A THIRD PATH PATIENTS CALLED SAR AT THE STATE FOR THE OTHER PROPERTIES.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADAPTED THE RESIDENCY DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.
I HAVE ONE FROM MR. GEORGE, UH, TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT MS. STEVIE BENNETT AND I DON'T HAVE HER ADDRESS.
ANYBODY ELSE? NO OBJECTION, RAY.
I'M HAVING A JOB READING ALL THESE THINGS DURING YOUR MEETING.
LET ME SAY THIS BEFORE I MOVE FROM APPOINTMENT.
I JUST SEE NOW THAT I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE CIVIL SERVICE, THINK I DO TOO.
AND I'VE GOT TO FIND THAT ANYBODY WHO WAS INTERESTED IN THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD, I KNOW FOR SOME FOLKS KICK IT, CONTACT ME FOR, WE HAD AN OFFER BY TRITON PCS, PROPERTY COMPANY, LLC DELAWARE, LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY, RENT SPACE ON THE TRENT WOODS.
WATERTOWER WE'D SAY WOULD PAY THE FIRST, YEAH, THE SUM OF $13,500 FOR THAT SPACE ON WHICH THEY WOULD LOCATE ON THE POWER NINE AND 10 OF THOSE TO BE USED IN THE BURGEONING TELEPHONE.
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ME ABOUT GETTING THE CONTRACT DRAWN AND SENT ME A BUNCH OF SEVERAL CONTRACTS.AND FINALLY, THE DAY I TRIED TO QUIT AND GET PUT TOGETHER THIS AGREEMENT, WHICH I HAD FOR SAID, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THE RESOLUTION.
I JUST HANDED OUT IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME AGREEMENT AS THE MIDDLE OF SOUTH AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO ON THE QUEEN STREET WATERTOWN.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THE BOARD HAS TO ACT.
I SAID TO MR. BALLINGER, AMANDA, TO GO, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS I NEED TO CLEAN UP THIS BEFORE I SIGN OUT, I CAN GO AHEAD AND GET IT, CLEANED UP, SEND IT OUT TO TRY IT AND HAVE THEM APPROVE IT.
AND I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.
UH, MADE IT A COMMENT FOR THIS OR A NEURO ABOUT IT, OR ONLY THING ABOUT THIS CONTRACTOR'S BEEN, IT HAS BEEN WAITING A WHILE AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S IN ANY JEOPARDY OF COLLAPSING OR ANYTHING CAUSE THEY, THEIR OPTION IS TO BUILD POWER, BUT THEY ARE PRETTY DESPERATE TO GET SOMETHING IN.
THEY REALLY WANT TO DO IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO I TOLD THEM THAT WE WOULD TRY TO EXPEDITE AS MUCH AS WE COULD, BUT I THINK OUR SUGGESTION ABOUT GOING AHEAD AND FINISHING HIS WORK, GETTING TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH THEM, GETTING THEM TO SIGN OFF ON IT AND BRING IT BACK WOULD BE THE BEST.
THE ONLY REASON I SAID SOMETHING IN AN HOUR, BROUGHT IT UP IS THAT I'VE GOT MORE READING MATERIALS.
SINCE I GOT HERE TO MY DOOR, I HAD MY AGENDA AND SORT OF HARD TO ABSORB ALL THIS AT THIS MILL.
EVERYTHING WAS GOING ON AT THE SAME, SAME TIME.
SO WHEN THEY SIGN IT, SEND IT BACK, THEY WILL KNOW IT'S DONE AND THEN WE'LL BE ACCEPT WHATEVER THOSE TERMS ARE WRITTEN UP.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GOING RATE IS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND THE $13,000 DOESN'T SOUND LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COSTING THEM A LOT OF MONEY.
IT WOULDN'T SOUND LIKE PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER PLACES.
WE'VE CHECKED THAT THEY OFFERED US LIKE 6,000 STAR.
SO WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WERE GETTING THE 13 FIVE AS AN ANNUAL RENTAL.
AND AT THE END OF THE FIRST FIVE-YEAR TERM, IT SET UP THE SAME WAY THAT THAT SHOP WAS AS AN OPTION.
AND THEY PAID FOR THE OPTION AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND EXERCISE THE OPTION.
THEN IF THE EXERCISE, THE OPTION, THE LICENSE AGREEMENT, AND ALSO APPROVE.
SO THEY THEN PAY 13,500 A YEAR FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS, THEN THEY CAN EXTEND IT FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS FACT, FULL BOARD, ADDITIONAL TERMS OF FIVE YEARS AND EACH TIME A 15% INCREASE.
AND WELL, I'M JUST SAYING NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IT SHOULD COST, THAT IT WOULD JUST MAKE SENSE TO ME THAT THEY SHOULD BE SATISFIED WITH THAT PRICE BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, THE ANTENNAS WOULD BEING A CENTRAL PART OF THEIR BUSINESS WITHOUT IT.
THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING, EVEN IF THE COST TO, TO, TO, TO HAVE THEM UP WHERE THEY NEED THEM IS UNDER $13,000 A YEAR.
IF, IF, IF THAT THE EXPENSE IS A LARGE PART OF THEIR, UH, OPERATION, YOU KNOW, THE $13,000, IT WOULDN'T BE A VERY BIG OPERATION.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO RATIONALIZE THE FACT THAT IF IT TAKES US ANOTHER WEEK TO GET THEM THE RIGHT FLAVORS AND ALL THAT.
YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO NEGATE THE CONTRACTOR SO MUCH BETTER.
YOU USED AN EXISTING WATER TOWER THEN HAVING TO PUT UP ANOTHER CELLULAR TOWER.
I ASSUME MANY COUNTERS AROUND TOWN NOW WOULD BE A CELLULAR TOWER.
I DON'T WANT TO GET HIGH AND SAID THEY WAITING FOR ME TO HANG IN THERE A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN 13,000 BUCKS.
HOW ABOUT ANY MISCELLANEOUS? NO, SIR.
I DON'T HAVE A MISCELLANEOUS MIDLAND.
UM, I'LL ASK DANNY METALS TO GO OVER, UH, BEHIND GREEN PARK TERRORISTS.
WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT NOW? AUTUMN CHASE BEHIND IT.
AUTUMN CHASE PROPERTIES, WHERE THEY HAVE, WE HAVE THAT WALKWAY AS IT COMES FROM OVER INTO THE LARGE ADVIL.
AND IT HAS GROWN UP QUITE A BIT IN THERE.
PEOPLE TRASHY AND PEOPLE FEEL A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE.
A NOW WHO SHARES THE PROPERTY, THERE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
AND, UH, I, I WAS ASKING DADDY, IF IT WAS SOMETHING HE CAN DO, HE SAYS HE HAS A BUSH OR SOMETHING.
I BOOSTED SOMETHING THAT HE COULD CLEAN IT UP.
I WENT OVER AND SPOKE WITH WHILE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN HIS PROPERTY AND THE ON PROPERTY AND WHOSE PROPERTY THESE PROPERTIES BELONGS TO.
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FOLKS HAVE IN PREVIOUS YEARS, THEY JUST WALKED RIGHT THROUGH GREEN PARK TERRORISTS.THAT COULD BE SOMETHING DOWN THERE WORKING AROUND THE FENCE AND BACK OVER TO PARK STREET AND KENNEDY AVENUE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND IT GOT A PRETTY GOOD PATH.
I WENT DOWN THERE, BUT GROWING UP AND WEEDS, WE DON'T KNOW IF SAMPSON IMPROVE HOMES AND UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOW IT WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF PROBLEMS WITHOUT THE BOARD TO ADVISE US TO
BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT'S AT THAT PHONE WHEN IT FELL, IT WAS DANGEROUS.
ENTITY IS, BUT AGAIN, BUT WHOSE NAMES YOU USING
AND WE PROBABLY DO HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY MAYBE CUT.
AND I'M NOT THE ATTORNEY, BUT ONCE WE GO THERE MODE AND SOMEBODY WALKED THROUGH THERE, I MEAN, STILL BOOSTED THE LEAD SIDE.
UH, ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH THERE NEXT AND PUT UP SECURITY LIGHTS AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF? SO, I MEAN, WE TOOK OUR BLESSINGS, EVEN THOUGH WE NEVER HAD, WELL, WHAT DOES IT MEAN MR. WARD? CAN WE CUT IT AND JUST BE CUTTING AND GOES WITH NICE GUYS OR THE WEEKEND IT NOW WE GOT TO DO, I HAVE TO HAVE TO BE A NICE GUY, A LOT OF OTHER PLACES IN TOWN.
IF YOU HAD ANY IDEA OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THE AUTUMN CHASE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WERE HANGING ALL THAT VANDALISM, WHEN EVERYBODY WAS COMING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOING THERE AND ALL THE SENIORS.
SO WE WERE HOPING THAT THE USE THE WAY IT IS NOW BEING USED, THAT PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO GO THROUGH THERE.
AND I MUST, MUST ADMIT IS VERY EERIE.
BROWN WHEN I WALKED THROUGH IT AND I DON'T THINK I'D REALLY GO THAT WAY, BUT THERE ARE THOSE WHO FROM ONE SIDE OF OUR LABOR, FROM ALL THE CLOCK STREET, IT USED TO JUST GO IN THROUGH THERE, TO GO OVER TO THE HOSPITAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.
AND SO THEY'RE USING IT AND THEY'RE NOT CLIMBING THE FENCE ANYMORE.
SO THEY'RE USING THAT PATHWAY, BUT IT HAS GROWN UP OVER AND IT'S KIND OF DANGEROUS, ACTUALLY.
AND I'LL JUST THINKING IF WE COULD CUT IT DOWN AND KEEP IT LIKE PUSHED LOW BACK A LITTLE BIT.
WELL, IS ANYBODY OPPOSED TO CABINET? NO.
HOW ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER TO, I UNDERSTAND, I THINK THAT AGAIN, WHEN WE STARTED DOING THIS, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING, BUT WHEN WE DO SOMETHING AND THEN WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DO IT TO A REASONABLE STANDARD, THAT THERE, WHEN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE MAY INCUR SOME LIABILITY DOWN THE ROAD.
AS LONG AS YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE SOME LIABILITY FOR THE CITY THAT WE'RE DOING, DOING THAT.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP WITH IT.
WELL, IF WE DID CUT A RIDER, IF THERE WAS A HOLE LEFT THERE AND WE'VE BEEN MAINTAINING THAT SOMEBODY TRIPPED IN IT FELL OVER HER LEG, THEN WE BECOME LIABLE.
ALL, REALLY HAVE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION TO MAINTAIN IT IN A REASONABLY
DO WE HAVE SOME SORT OF, AT LEAST IMPLICIT, UH, RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE PEOPLE A WAY TO GET FROM A TO B WHILE WE HAVE PROBABLY
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I THINK IF THE THIRD SAYS DO IT, IF THE BOARD SAYS IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH THEM, AND THEN WE DO IT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE, THESE KINDS OF THINGS ARE REMOTELY POSSIBLE, BUT THEY'RE FALLING.SO THAT WEIGHING IN ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY WERE PROBLEMS ON IN THAT SITUATION THAT MR. SAMSON TALKING ABOUT MIGHT BE WORSE
WHEN THEY WERE DEVELOPING ON CHASE, WE HAD A BIG PROBLEM HERE.
POLICE SAID VANDALISMS, STRONG ARMS SALTS.
AND WE DISCUSSED A VARIETY OF WAYS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET FROM THIS BOULEVARD.
AND WE ALL AGREED THAT THE BEST WAY WOULD BE TO PUT A FENCE THERE, GO AROUND PROPERTY, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THAT, OVERGROWN EVERYTHING, OR WE TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO KEEP PEOPLE UP AT YOUR START, CUTTING DEFENSES, GOING BACK THROUGH OUR CHASING.
WE HAVEN'T ANY PROBLEMS ON CHASE SINCE WE'VE
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY
I'M GOING TO BRING DOWN THE GAMBLING.