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AND WE'LL OPEN WITH A PRAYER BY REVEREND CRAIG SIMONS OF ST.
MARY'S FREE WILL BAPTIST CHURCH, WHICH I DON'T THINK HE'S HERE, BUT IT MATCHED YOUR CHURCH.
DANNY, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ALL THE WAY? THANK YOU.
WE HAVE DONE TOGETHER THE TIME TO PRAY LORD THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THOSE AND MAKE THE DECISIONS AND THE FUNCTION TO DO THAT, WHICH IS BEST FOR ALL OF US OR HELP US ALL TO DO THAT.
AS I NAMED, WE DID PRAY THAT SHE'S BLESSED THIS NATION, THIS PEOPLE, THIS CITY, WOULD HE PRAY GOD FOR THOSE NATIONS?
FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, YOU MIGHT CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
MA'AM MORE OR LESS HERE, HERE.
I ASKED FOR JUST A MOMENT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE MEETING ITSELF TONIGHT TO, UH, FOR A COUPLE OF QUICK STATEMENTS.
FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY ABSENCE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS.
I'VE BEEN DOWN WITH PNEUMONIA, APPARENTLY THE RESULT OF THE TRAVELING TO COLORADO, TO RELATIVES, WEDDING, AND ET CETERA, BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, I'M SORRY THAT I MISSED THOSE MEETINGS AND I THINK I'M BACK ON MY FEET AGAIN.
UH, WE HAVE HAD WORD FROM OUR TURKISH EXCHANGE STUDENT WHO LIVED HERE IN NEWBURN WITH US FOR, UH, FOR A YEAR, SOMETIME BACK, DOCTOR VULCAN.
TYPHER HIS FAMILY LIVE IN ANKARA AND THEY'VE HAD KIND OF A TOUGH TIME OF IT, BUT NO ONE WAS INJURED IN THE FAMILY.
SO THOSE PEOPLE IN NEWBURN WHO REMEMBER OF ALCON FROM WHEN HE WAS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THEY'RE ALL DOING WELL.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE OUR LATEST FORAY INTO THE FASCINATING WORLD OF STUDENT EXCHANGE.
AND THIS IS OUR SHY BASHFUL STUDENTS WHO ARRIVED A FEW WEEKS AGO, WHOSE COMPANY I REALLY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO ENJOY VERY MUCH BECAUSE OF THIS PNEUMONIA SUFFERED, BUT THIS IS EMILIO MAHER AND EMMY AS HE IS CALLED AS A RESIDENT OF CUSCO, PERU.
AND LIKE B SAYS, HE'S A KEEPER.
HE MAKES HIS BED, HE WASHES THE DISHES, BUT, UH, UH, WE ARE CERTAINLY GLAD TO HAVE AMY WITH US THIS YEAR AND LOOK FORWARD TO HIM, LEARNING ALL ABOUT WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A NORTH AMERICAN TEENAGER.
AND WE HOPE HE DOESN'T LEARN TOO MUCH ABOUT BEING A NORTH AMERICAN TEENAGER, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HIM.
AND HE'LL BE COMING TO MEETINGS OCCASIONALLY TO KEEP AN EYE ON US.
FIRST THING WE HAVE IS, UH, DAVID MEECE AND HE HAS REPORTED GOOD EVENING, THE, A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THE MONTH OF JULY TREATED A TOTAL OF 94.2 MILLION GALLONS OF WASTEWATER.
THE AVERAGE DAILY FLOW WAS 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
THE PEAK FLOW WAS 3.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
THE TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS REMOVAL EFFICIENCY WAS 88.8%.
THE BIOLOGICAL OXYGEN DEMAND REMOVAL EFFICIENCY WAS 92.9%.
THE, UM, PHOSPHORUS AVERAGE FOR THE MONTH OF JULY WAS 1.7, 4 42 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER, A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT ISN'T COMPLIANCE AND PAST TOXICITY FOR THE MONTH OF JULY.
AND WE ARE CONTINUING OUR STUDY AND HAVE DETERMINED THAT AMMONIA IS THE COHORT WITH OUR TOXICITY AND WE WILL BE GETTING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE LABORATORY.
AND WE'LL BE ASKING FOR SOC WHEN THAT REPORT DOES COME OUT.
IT SHOULD BE, UH, SOMETIME IN THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER, WATCH AN SOC A SPECIAL ORDER OF CONSENT.
I'M SORRY, I'M TALKING TO MILITARY JARGON THERE IN MY OWN WORLD.
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A SPECIAL ORDER OF CONSENT WILL BE WHERE WE ASKED THE STATE TO, UH, ALLOW US TO CONTINUE MONITORING THAT, BUT THERE WILL BE NO NOTICES OF VIOLATIONS ISSUED WHEN WE EXCEED OUR PARAMETER OR FAIR OUR TOXICITY IN THIS CASE, UH, THE NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS WOULD BE WAIVED AND WE WOULD BE UNDER A SPECIAL ORDER OF CONSENT, UH, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE UPGRADING OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, MINE, YOURS.IT IS, IS A BY-PRODUCT OF A BIOLOGICAL ACTION THAT TAKES PLACE, UH, IN THE SEWAGE AND IN THE, UH, TREATMENT OF, UH, THE SLUDGE ALOMAR IS LIKE YOU GET FROM A BABY'S DIAPER.
THAT'S THE SMELL THAT YOU SMELL, THAT SOMEBODY BE LATIN, YOU GROW THROUGH THAT, AND THEN YOU BECOME A GRANDPARENT AND YOU GROW THROUGH IT AGAIN.
BUT, UH, WE SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING THAT OUT.
THE, UH, HOW DO YOU TAKE IT OUT? I MEAN, WHEN I GET TOO TECHNICAL WITH IT'S DONE THROUGH A BIOLOGICAL PROCESS, UH, RIGHT NOW THE TRICKLING HAS AN ALLERGY THAT DOES THE BIOLOGICAL PROCESS.
WHEN WE GO TO OUR NEW TREATMENT PROCESS, THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE A, A WHOLE DIFFERENT, UH, BIOLOGICAL TREATMENT PROCESS TAKING PLACE WHERE, UH, THE AMMONIA IS ABSORBED IN THE, IN THE, UM, BIOLOGICAL TREATMENT IN THE WASTEWATER, RATHER THAN, UH, PASSING THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHICH NOW THE ALGEBRA THREE, IT WILL BE GONE COMPLETELY IN THE NEW PROBLEMS. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S SOME LITTLE CREATURES IN LICENSE.
THERE'LL STILL BE, THEY'LL STILL BE AMMONIA, BY-PRODUCTS IN THE SLUDGE, BUT THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING GOING OUT IN THE WASTEWATER ITSELF.
THAT'S DISCHARGED AT THE END OF THE PLANT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION COMMENT.
UM, SINCE WE HAD IT COMMUNITY MEETING AND GUIDES TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE ROCK CLARA PASSING PEOPLE TO CALL ME WITH VARIOUS CONCERNS, ONE IN PARTICULAR IS, UM, AND WE'RE EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE SELL SERVICES TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY.
AND THEY WERE WONDERING IF THE INCREASE OF USAGE HAVE ANY IMPACT AT ALL ON THE SMELL.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SMELL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE'RE JUST WONDERING IF MAYBE WE HAVING TO UPDATE OUT A SEWER PLANT AND DO DIFFERENT THINGS AS IT PERTAINED TO THE KIND OF USE OF THE PLANT BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA LOAD THAT WE PUT ON IT, BY SELLING OUR SERVICES TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
THE CONCERN WAS THAT IF THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, THOSE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE IN OUR CITY WERE THE ONLY ONES USING OUR SERVICES, THEN WOULD WE NEED TO HAVE D TO DO WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE HAVING TO DO NOW TO OUR PLANT.
AND IF THAT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON IF IT DOES IN ANY WAY, HAVING IMPACT ON THE WAY THAT IT SMELLS, UM, TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, UM, WOULD WE HAVE TO UPGRADE OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IF WE HAD, IF WE WERE STILL OPERATING AT ABOUT 2.9 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY AS THE DAY I WALKED IN THE DOOR BACK IN 1994, THE ANSWER IS YES.
UM, IF WE HAD HAD ABSOLUTELY NO GROWTH IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT COMMISSION HAS ISSUED NEW LAWS TO THE NEUSE RIVER BASIN, AND THEY ARE PUTTING NITROGEN LIMITS, UH, THROUGH A DIRECTION FROM THE UNITED STATES ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY TO LOWER THE NUTRIENTS IN THE RIVER BY 30%.
AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME NEWS ARTICLES WHERE THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA HAS SUBMITTED THAT TO THE EPA.
THEY SENT IT BACK FOR SOME CHANGES.
AND AT PRESENT, WE DON'T HAVE AN UPDATED NPDS PERMIT, WHICH IS OUR A PERMIT TO DISCHARGE TO THE RIVER, UH, BECAUSE THAT PLAN HAS NOT YET BEEN APPROVED BY THE UNITED STATES ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.
UH, WHEN THAT PLAN IS APPROVED, WE WILL HAVE A NITROGEN LIMIT THAT RIGHT NOW, OUR PLANT CANNOT REMOVE NITROGEN, UH, EFFICIENTLY.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE, WE PRODUCE RIGHT NOW ABOUT TWICE AS MUCH NITROGEN, UM, BEING DISCHARGED TO THE RIVER AS WE WILL BE ALLOWED TO DISCHARGE WHEN OUR FLOAT W
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WAS, IF WE WERE TO STAY WHERE WE'RE AT NOW AND, AND GO TO SIX AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS A DAY, WHICH IS THE SIZE OF OUR FUTURE PLANT, WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE PRODUCING FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT OF NITROGEN WE'RE PRODUCING RIGHT NOW.WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO CUT THAT IN HALF.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I EXPLAINED THAT VERY WELL, BUT IN POUNDS, WE'RE GOING TO BE LIMITED TO 53,000 POUNDS, WHICH IS A MAXIMUM.
SO WE'VE GOT TO REMOVE THE NITROGEN IS THE BOTTOM LINE, AND WE'VE GOT THAT GRADE, THE PLANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT WELL, WE'RE NOT OPERATING AT, BUT HOW MUCH CAPACITY RIGHT NOW TO PLANT HALF OF IT OR SOMETHING 61 WE'RE ACTUALLY OPERATING, UH, WE'RE 3.1 MILLION GALLONS.
THE REASON THAT WE'RE HAVING TO UPGRADE THE PLANT IS MERELY BECAUSE THE PLANT DOESN'T TAKE OUT ALL OF THE PERCENTAGES OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY ARE NOW, THE NEW STANDARDS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE US.
NOT BECAUSE WE'VE ADDED NEW PEOPLE ON IT, WHICH MEANS THERE'S STILL MORE CAPACITY IN THE PLANT.
WE CAN ADD MORE AND MORE AND MORE IF THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THE RULES, RIGHT? SO THEN IF WE ADD MORE PEOPLE OR IF WE DON'T ADD MORE PEOPLE TO THE $18 MILLION, WE HAVE TO BORROW IT, THEN HAS TO BE PAID BACK BY A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
WHEREAS IF YOU ADD PEOPLE, THEN THE MONEY THAT HAS TO BE PAID BACK GETS SPREAD AMONG A LOT LARGER FACE.
NO MORE THAN THE PEOPLE IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S ALREADY IN THE CITY.
BUT AT THE TIME WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED, MAYBE 150 CUSTOMERS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ACCURATE THE CELL WOULD BE USE OF, OF OUR PLANT BY THOSE OUTSIDE THE CITY.
AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED WHILE I STILL PROBABLY SAW WHERE WE WERE EXTENDING OUR SERVICES TO PEOPLE IN VARIOUS PLACES.
AND SO THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAD ASKED WAS, UM, UM, DOES THAT CHANGE THE SMELL? UM, YEAH, THE ANSWER IS NO.
UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT SERVED OUTSIDE THE CITY VERSUS INSIDE THE CITY, I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S EITHER 98 OR 99% ARE COMING FROM THE CITY LIMITS OF NEWBURGH.
AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WHO WOULD YOU SEWAGE? UM, AND WE'VE HAD COMPLAINTS.
AND WE HAVE TRIED TO DETERMINE THE CUSTOMER'S COMPLAINTS IN THE AREA WE, WE ADDRESSED THAT WERE VERY, UM, RESPONSIVE TO THE REQUEST.
AND TO DATE, WE HAVEN'T NOTICED ANY MAJOR DIFFERENCES THAT THEY SAY THEY NOTICE A DIFFERENCE AT THE PLANT.
WE DON'T NOTICE ANY MAJOR DIFFERENCE.
WE, WE TRY TO GO TO THE CUSTOMER'S HOME AND WE'VE HAD A DIALOGUE WE'RE SAYING, WHEN YOU HAVEN'T CALLED US AND LET US GO AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SMELLING AND SEE IF WE CAN DETERMINE IF THERE'S ANY PART OF OPERATION THAT MAY BE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT.
UH, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
IT'S A DAY IN DAY OUT OPERATION AND EVERY NOW AND THEN WE ABOUT EVERY SIX WEEKS WE'D HAUL SLUDGE.
WE THINK THAT COULD PRODUCE SOME SMELL, BUT WE DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD INFILTRATE THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT NOW, EVEN WITH THE AD CUSTOMERS, WE WILL NOT TO CAPACITY YOUR PRESENT CAPACITY.
RIGHT? AND SO IF WE WERE AT CAPACITY, IF WE WERE AT THE CAPACITY OF THE PLANT THAT WE PRESENTLY HAVE, WOULD THAT AFFECT THE SMELL? WOULD THAT INCREASE THE SMELL OF, SO SHE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.
YOU KNOW, IN FACT, YOU CAN'T KNOW WHERE THE SMELL IS COMING FROM.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT CAUSES THE SMELL.
WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS AN ODOR WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH HUMAN ONES.
UM, AND AT THE INFLUENCE STRUCTURE WHERE THE WASTE IS TOTALLY UNTREATED HAS BEEN IN PIPES, UH, SOMETIMES THREE OR FOUR DAYS, IF YOU TOOK A BABY'S DIAPER AND PUT IT IN A DIAPER PAIL AND LITTLE BIT UP THREE OR FOUR DAYS LATER, YOU KNOW, THE PUNGENT ODOR YOU GET, WELL, WE PUT WASTE.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, AND I REALIZE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT YOUR BABY WOULD DIE ON THE, UP TO THAT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO TO, UH, MINIMIZE OR ELIMINATE ANY SMELL? SO TO WHERE THE PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHO SURROUNDS THE PLANTS FEEL THAT THEY SMELL THE SOUP PLANT.
AND, AND, AND THIS HAS BEEN A CONCERN OF THEIRS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT WE ARE NOW DOING THAT WE COULD DO TO ELIMINATE THIS SMELL.
UM, NOT OF ANY, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
ANYBODY HAD ANY SUGGESTIONS, I'D CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THEM, THOUGH.
WE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT THE CITY OF NEWBURN THAT CREATES THE SMELL.
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IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH WHO CREATED THE SITUATION.AND THEN WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SOLVING THE PROBLEM THAT'S CREATED, AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WHERE WE'RE ALL AT OUR HOUSES.
THOSE THINGS ARE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, YOU CAN TELL THE, THEY CALLED YOU.
AND I'VE HAD SOME FOLKS ASK ME, BUT THE REASON THAT WE WANT TO ADD MORE PEOPLE TO IT IS TO KEEP THEIR PEOPLE IS ALREADY ON ITS COST LOWER BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO SPEND THESE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO TAKE EVEN MORE STUFF OUT OF THE WATER.
WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, EVERYBODY IN THE STATE DOES, IF YOU'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE A PLANT THAT WAS JUST BUILT IN THE LAST COUPLE, THREE YEARS, PROBABLY STANDARD.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SO, AND I'VE HEARD PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ASK WHY WE ADDED TO BURN ON THIS AND THAT, BUT WE HAVEN'T FIXED THE PIPE.
MAYBE THAT'S IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, W WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE REASON WE'RE ADDING ALL THESE PLACES IS THAT WE CAN GET THE MONEY TO FIX SOME OF THE OLD INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT BUSTING EVERYBODY UP.
AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KIND OF TRUST US ON THAT, BUT THE FACTS AND THE FACTS AND THE NUMBERS WILL PROVE THEMSELVES OUT ANY OTHER EQUIVALENT.
THE NEXT THING IS THE HAZARD AND MITIGATION REPORT BY PLANNING.
THIS MUST BE A GOOD REPORT CAUSE YOU
UM, UH, THE PRIMARY PROJECT AREAS ARE PAVEY TOWN AND WOODROW, JUST TO BRING YOU UP TODAY.
THE, UH, PAVEY TOWN PROJECT INCLUDES ACQUISITION AND RELOCATION.
WE ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING THE CONTRACT WITH OUR CONSULTANT, DAVID AND ASSOCIATES, AND HOPE TO HAVE THAT TO YOU BY YOUR NEXT MEETING, UH, FOR YOUR REVIEW AND HOPEFUL APPROVAL ON THAT.
UM, AS FAR AS PAVING TOWN ACQUISITION AT LAST REPORT, THE REVIEW OF PRICES WERE ALMOST COMPLETE AND THE SURVEYS WERE NOT COMPLETE.
UH, THE REVIEW APPRAISALS ARE NOW COMPLETE AND WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER A THIRD OF THE SURVEYS IN A BALANCE SHOULD BE IN BY THE END OF THE WEEK HUDLEY.
AND WITHIN 10 DAYS, WE SHOULD BE MAKING OFFERS, UH, TO THE, UH, OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AND THE PAVEY COUNTY AREA THAT WE'LL BE ACQUIRING.
UH, WE'RE ALSO CURRENTLY REVIEWING A CONTRACT WITH MCDAVID AND ASSOCIATES FOR THE, UH, WOODROW, UH, WORK, THE ADMINISTRATIVE WORK FOR THE ELEVATIONS, AND ALSO THE REHABILITATION WORK.
I HOPE TO HAVE THAT TO YOU BY NEXT MEETING ALSO, UH, WE DID HAVE TO MODIFY THOSE AGREEMENTS SOMEWHAT, UH, WITH, UH, LEAVING, UH, SO THAT THEY PICKED UP A BIT MORE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE LOAD, UH, THERE TO HELP US THROUGH THE TRANSITION PERIOD, UM, THE, UM, STORM WATER PUMP STATION AND, UH, THE, UH, UH, BILL STREET AREA.
UH, WE ARE STILL TRYING AND WORKING WITH THE RAILROAD.
UH, WE SENT THE EASEMENT, WE SENT THE MONEY, UH, SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER.
THEY GOT THEM SEPARATED AND ARE TRYING TO GET THEM BACK TOGETHER SO THAT THEY CAN GET US A RESPONSE AND IMPROVE ALONG THAT.
UH, BUT THAT THAT'S TAKEN OFF QUITE A BIT OF TIME FOR THEM TO TRY TO PULL THE PAPER BACK, UM, AND ROADS WATER LINE, UH, THE SIX INCH AND TWO-INCH LINES ARE IN THE GROUND NOW, UH, THEY WILL, THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TO CONNECT THE MAIN LINES TO THE METERS, AND THEN FROM THE METERS TO THE HOUSES, UH, WE EXPECT THAT WORK TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN 30 DAYS.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THE MAIN LINES ARE ALREADY IN THE GROUND.
WILL YOU TELL ME ONCE AGAIN, WHEN YOU, WHEN THEY WILL START ACQUISITION AND MAKING OFFERS IN PAVEY TOWN, SAY IT LOUD.
WE HOPE TO BE MAKING OFFERS IN PAVEY TOWN BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK, THOSE OFFERS WILL BE GOING IN THE MAIL BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK, WITHIN THIS MONTH.
NEXT THING WE HAVE AS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER RESIGNING 11.176 ACRE TRACT ON HIGHWAY, EXCUSE ME, 55 WEST, APPROXIMATELY 600 FEET SOUTHEAST AND CRAVEN EVALUATION AND TRAINING CENTER FROM EIGHT FIVE TO OUR 20 MR. GEORGE,
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LET ME HAVE BAYLISS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN YOU HAVE BEFORE YOUR REQUESTS BY ALL WOMAN, BARBARA LEE, TO REZONE A 11.726 ACRE TRACT PLEASANT HILL COMMUNITY DEANNA'S FAMILY HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR HOMESITES.AND BARBARA HAS ASKED THAT WE FORWARD THE SECOND CLOSE REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S LAND USE PLAN AND A THOROUGHFARE PLAN AT THE AUGUST 3RD REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
THE BOARD DID UNANIMOUSLY, UH, AGREED TO RECOMMEND AS REZONING THE APPROVED.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER.
WELL, THE OTHER THING I HAD TO SAY IS THAT THIS LETTER I GOT BY WITH DAVID TALKING ABOUT 20 ACRES, RATHER THAN 11.7 TO SIX.
AND THIS, I MEAN, IF WE GRAB A PRODUCT HERE AND WE NEED TO HAVE THEM CORRECTED, IF THIS LETTER IS CORRECTED OFF ON AN OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND IT'S A LARGER TRACTOR, I WANT TO SAY, OH YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT WAS MY CONCERN.
I MEAN, WE HAD, WE ENDED UP LIKE THAT L THE DESCRIPTION ERRONEOUS, OR WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT COUNTY COUNTY RECORDS.
THOSE TAX RECORDS ARE NOTORIOUSLY INACCURATE.
THAT'S NOT WORTH A DAMN
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT POSSIBLY WITH TALKING ABOUT, I THINK WE KNOW WHAT LAND IS, BUT WE HAVEN'T DESCRIBED IT IN A METRIC TERMS PROPERLY.
SO IS THERE ANYBODY HERE OPPOSED TO IT? I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
WITH WHATEVER CORRECTIONS ARE NECESSARY TO DESCRIBE ACCURATE, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION
I MADE A RECOMMENDATION IN THAT LETTER ABOUT, FOR THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
SO THAT REGARDLESS OF WHO MAKES THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER AMENDING THE ZONING MAP IS THAT AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THE ORDINANCE.
THE LAND USE ORDINANCE NOW SAYS THAT IF FROM SOMEONE OTHER THAN A MEMBER OF THE BOARD RECOMMEND IS THE CHANGE I MADE.
SOME BOUNDS DESCRIPTION IS REQUIRED TO WHICH YOU REFERRED TO METERS.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY, NO, I WAS JUST MAIN METRIC TERM MEASURABLE TERM, BUT IT SHOULD BE A MINUTE SO THAT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO HAVE A PIECE OF PROP, THE REASON WE REQUIRED A CHANGE IN THE ZONING THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME IN WITH SOMETHING THAT DESCRIBES IT ADEQUATELY.
AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, THE DONE BUILDING, YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT DESCRIBED BY MEETING THE BOUNDS IN ORDER TO ADEQUATELY IDENTIFY.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU RECOMMEND SOMETHING SUCH AS BOTTLED, HE DID THIS TIME, IT TURNS OUT THAT THE ONLY SOURCE OF INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR IS COUNTY TAX RECORDS.
AND THE TAX RECORDS REFLECT THAT IT'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS CONVEYED IN 1920 AND CONSISTED OF 20 ACRES LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY INSTEAD OF THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, WHERE IT IS WELL THAT'S, WOULD THAT BE THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO WHOEVER MADE THE REQUEST? LIKE I ASSUME THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT KNEW THE AREA AND WOULD GET THE ACCURATE DESCRIPTION, BUT I'M SAYING IF, IF IT WAS, UH, SOMEONE ELSE DID, WOULD THEY GO TO THE COUNTY TO GET THE INFORMATION WHEN THEY, THEY WOULD COME UP WITH THE SAME FAULT HERE? THE ONLY THING TO SAY IS THIS.
IT HAD A POST, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD HAS USED FROM TIME TO TIME.
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BEING REZONED FOR THAT REASON, WITH ORDINANCE IN THIS CASE, IN OTHER WORDS TO PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO CHANGE.THE SUN KNOWS WHAT LAND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY CAN GO OUT THERE AND PUT THE HANDS ON IT.
BUT AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL DESCRIPTION OF THE ABUSE STARTS HERE AND ENDS HERE AND KNOW WHAT THEY USED BY NORMALLY ASKED, AND THIS AND THAT, THAT WAS WRONG.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, DIDN'T HAVE IT MAPPING.
IS THERE ANY REASON WE SHOULD REQUIRE IN THE FUTURE THAT THEY HAVE AN UP TO DATE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY WHEN THEY REQUEST THE RESOLVE? I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD REQUIRE THEM EVERY TIME TO HAVE A SURVEY, NOT EVERY TIME, BUT REQUIRED THAT THE PROPERTY BE ADEQUATELY IDENTIFIED.
CITY STAFF CAN RECOGNIZE YOU RECKON IT'S EVER BEEN SURVEYING.
WHEN THEY'RE YOU, THEY ASKED HIM, ASKED HIM TO HANG UP THEN IN THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT? NO, JUST TO TAKE IT OUT TO CONSIDER IT.
DOESN'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
WHAT CAN I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE FOLLOW HIS RECOMMENDATION.
CAN YOU GET A PLAN AND COMBAT WITH AN ILLNESS, PLEASE? THANK YOU.
DOES THE CURRENT OWNERS HAVE A LEGAL DEED TO THE PROBLEM? I HAVEN'T CHECKED THE TITLE.
WILL THEY NEED TO DO THAT? REMEMBER THE DEED TO WHICH REFERENCE WAS MADE IN THE COUNTY TAX RECORDS.
AND APPARENTLY THE ANCESTOR, THIS MAN WHO NOW OWN IT, I WOULDN'T WANT FOR AWHILE, BUT ANYONE COULD REQUEST AND REZONING.
WHERE ARE WE IN THIS THING? ITEM SEVEN.
SO WE'RE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF.
ITEM SIX IS TO CONSIDER THE SECOND READING FOR THE CONTRACT WITH GDS ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.
DID WE VOTE? COORDINATE? I KNOW THERE WAS AN ITEM I DON'T REVIVE VOTING FOR.
DID THEY ADOPT THE ORDERS? UH, THERE WAS AN AWESOME, THERE WAS A MOTION MAIDENS.
I DIDN'T WANT TO SPLIT THE GUM.
YEAH, THAT'S STRANGE THAT ME AND MAX, NEITHER ONE.
REMEMBER BOTH OF Y'ALL RIDING HIS HAIR.
YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO
AND YOU CAN JUST MAIL MY GIFT.
NOW NUMBER SEVEN HERE ON REQUEST THE TAXI.
NUMBER SIX, CONCEPT FOR A SECOND RATING FOR THE CONTRACT, WHICH TOOK CARE OF IT.
MR. MAYOR HAVE ANOTHER SIX DAYS PROBABLY HEARING ALL THE REQUEST FOR TAXI FRANCHISE WORK.
WELL, DOES YOUR ITEM SEVEN AND THIS LETTER I GOT LATE THIS AFTERNOON.
WE DO THESE INDIVIDUALLY AS A GROUP, AS A GROUP INDIVIDUALLY.
FIRST I REMEMBER WE HAD THE PUPPY HEARING.
JUST TO CONSIDER APPLICATIONS BY A BAR, BUT TODAY DOING BUSINESS, RATHER I'M DOING BUSINESSES
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TO CITY CAB SERVICE, ONE TAXI CAB AND DAVID BURDEN FOR ANOTHER TAXI TAXI CAB.SO WE CAN CONSIDER OUR OPTIONS TO CONSIDER BOTH OF THEM, EITHER ONE OF THEM OR NEITHER ONE OF THEM.
THERE'S ONE ORDINANCE WHICH ADDRESSES BOTH OF THEM.
MAKE ANY CHANGE, MAKE A MOTION DOWN THE DOCTOR WE GOT AHEAD OF HERE AT FIRST.
NO SECOND CAN CLOSE THE SECOND BONE FOR A MONTH.
NOW THE HEARING WITH DAVID BURDEN, THAT GETS ME.
THE FIRST ONE WILL BE BARTLETT TOUCH CAB.
YOU SAID YOU HAD A MOTHER'S ON THE ONE ORDER IF YOU WANT.
THE BULK OF THEM ARE ON THE SAME.
I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE ORDER TO GRANT A TAX ID FRANCHISE TO THE TECH AND DAVID BURNS.
CAN I, WE HEARD A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL YES, YES, YES, YES.
NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? MINUS NUMBER NINE.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT TO YOUR NAME? MOB.
THAT ITEM YOU WANT TO PULL THERE? HE, NO, BUT I DON'T.
I NOTICED THAT, UH, MY APPOINTMENT TO THE ELECTRIC SERVICE BOARD, UH, HAS EXPIRED.
AND IF I CAN GET THROUGH THIS STUFF, WHICH IS NOT IN THE BOOK THIS TIME AND FIND HIS NAME, CAN YOU FIND IT? YOUR EYES ARE BETTER THAN MINE.
I WILL POINT HIM BECAUSE HE HAS INDICATED HE'S DONE WELL.
AND HE'S INDICATED HE'S SECOND SERVE ON THE ELECTRIC SERVICE BOARD AGAIN.
MR. REINER HAND, YOU HAVE ONE WITH NO, SIR.
LET HIM, NO, SIR, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LATE.
WE HAD ASKED THE BOARD OF TRANSPORTATION IF THEY WOULD GIVE US THE LOT ON NEUSE BOULEVARD AT THE END OF FIRST.
UH, AND I WAS BY THERE TODAY AND NOTICE THAT LOT HAS BEEN CLEARED AS THEY SELL IT OR GIVE IT TO ME.
I MEAN, WE HAVE AN ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT ON IT, SO IT'S SO WE HAVE CONTROL AND IT'S CLEAR, WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE GO TO, WE'RE GOING TO PUT AN ENTRANCE SIGN TO THE CITY UP SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT THE MANAGEMENT WAS TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE PROVISION FOR SOME OF THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY WERE GOING TO DO LANDSCAPING ALONG THERE.
ALL SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE HAD PERMISSION TO RELOCATE THE ROAD, SIGN A NUMBER OVER ABOUT 20 FEET, WHICH IS GOING TO ALLOW COMPLETE ACCESS THERE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
SO THAT, THAT SOUNDED REALLY WELL.
I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THAT SIGN TO BLOCKING IT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HADN'T LOST THAT LOT.
SO IF SOMETHING POP UP THERE, IT DIDN'T LOOK GOOD.
AND WE ALSO ARE GOING TO DO THAT, UH, INTERSECTION AT 43 AND 55 THAT'S, UH, SHOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND COMPLETE IN ABOUT 60 DAYS.
NOW THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS TO BE COMMENDED FOR THE WORK THEY'VE DONE THIS SUMMER.
IT'S BEEN SUCH A HOT SUMMER AND THEY HAVE WORKED THEMSELVES TO THE BONE BALL WITH THE PLANTINGS WATERED AND EVERYTHING.
AND I THINK HAS DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB AND I'M JUST TICKLED TO DEATH.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.
UH, THE LAST YEAR I'VE BEEN TRYING TO EDUCATE THE CONSTITUENTS IN THE SIXTH WARD BY PUBLISHING THE ARTICLES
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IN THE GREENBRIER CAUSE THAT AND OTHERS AND MEETINGS ABOUT THIS ELECTRIC DEREGULATION THAT THAT'S COMING UP.AND I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE AN EDITORIAL IN SATURDAY'S SUN JOURNAL.
UH, THAT IS VERY OBVIOUS THAT, UH, THE EDITOR DOESN'T KNOW ONE THING THAT'S GOING ON BY ELECTRIC DEREGULATION.
AND, UH, UH, I FEEL LIKE THAT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THEY'VE SO GOING TO BE SO MISLED BY THIS ARTICLE THAT MAKES IT APPEAR THAT THESE 50 SOME ODD CITIES ARE THE BAD GUY THAT WE SHOULD PUBLISH A REBUTTAL TO THIS.
I SUGGEST UNDER THE MAYOR'S NAME, IT'S TELLING THEM THE TRUE FACTS.
UH, I READ SO MANY OF THESE EDITORIALS FROM THE SUN THAT IS A BUNCH OF BUNK, BUT WHEN IT AFFECTS THE CITY, I THINK THEN WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO LET OUR CITIZENS KNOW THAT THIS MAN DID NO INVESTIGATION WHATSOEVER ON THE DEREGULATION BEFORE HE PRINTED THIS EDITORIAL.
AND HE'S JUST GOT TOTALLY INACCURATE.
UH, THE ARTICLE THAT BILL WROTE THAT IN SUN JOURNAL PUBLISHED RECENTLY HAD SOME GOOD INFORMATION THAT IT, APPARENTLY THIS GUY MISSED IT.
AND I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE GET A COPY OF THAT SPECIFIC BECAUSE IT ANSWERS SOME OF THOSE, THE BLUE COMPOSES, THE LETTER, AND ALL, I THINK IT SHOULD BE A FISH FROM THIS BOARD UNDER THE MAYOR, SIGNATORY EXPLAINING TO US CITIZENS WHAT POSITION THE DEREGULATION REALLY IS AND WHAT IT CAN DO.
AND WHAT HAD HAD HAPPENED IN THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
I'VE TALKED TO THIS THING AND I KNOW THE MAYOR AND SOME OF THE OTHERS, UH, UNTIL YOU'RE BLUE IN THE FACE.
AND THEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, COME OUT THAT THAT'S JUST PURELY RIDICULOUS FOR A RESPONSIBLE NEWSPAPER TO PRINT SOMETHING WITHOUT EVEN CHECKING IT OUT.
WELL, DID YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A RESPONSIBLE NEWSPAPER? WELL, NO.
IF THE BOARD WILL AGREE TO THIS, I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
I, THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM TO ME, BILL, IN ADDITION TO THE, WHAT IS STATED THERE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH DEREGULATION IS THIS GENTLEMEN HAS ABSOLUTELY A TOTALLY FALSE, UH, BACKGROUND ON HOW ELECTRICITY'S CAME TO BE AND WHY THEY CAME PART OF THE EXPERT.
NOW WE ARE NOT IN A GOOD POSITION AT THIS, BUT I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF NEW BERN, THE OFFICIALS AT THAT TIME, NOT ONE OF WHOM IS ON THIS BOARD OR HAS BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UH, BACK SOME OF THEM, SOME OF I'M IN THE GROUND.
THEY DID THE RIGHT THING AT THE DRY AT THE TIME WITH THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE, BUT THINGS CHANGED LATER AND THEY DID NOT HAVE THE INSIGHT.
THIS MAN HAD TO PREDICT THE FUTURE APPARENTLY, BUT, UH, IT'S LIKE A MARRIAGE.
IF EVERYBODY KNEW THE MARRIAGE WAS GOING TO FALL APART AND BECOME A DISASTER, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN MARRIED TO BEGIN WITH.
AND THE CITY MIGHT'VE HAD A DIFFERENT ATTITUDE TOWARD JOINING ELECTRICITY'S AT THAT TIME.
HAD THEY BEEN ABLE TO PREDICT THE FUTURE AND KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN, BUT NOBODY DID.
AND I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE ON OUR BACK, THE PEOPLE WHO FORMED ELECTRICITIES WHEN THEY DID IT WITH THE INFORMATION THEY HAD AVAILABLE, AND I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY INFORM THE PUBLIC AS TO HOW WE GOT INTO IT, TO BEGIN WITH OR HOW THE CITY GOT INTO AS PART OF THE OLD STORY.
AND THEN WHAT THE DEREGULATION WOULD DO TO THE ECONOMY OF THIS AREA.
THERE ARE ONLY EMOTION FOR THAT.
OH, I THINK I LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING THE ARTICLE OR THE EDITORIAL, UH, TALKS ABOUT THE OTHER 50 CITIES TOO.
AND IF YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT NEW, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER 50 CITIES, WHICH WOULD GO BANKRUPT IN THE EVENT THAT THIS WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT ELECTRIC CITIES OR WHICH WERE APARTMENTS, RIGHT.
SO WE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE, THIS WAS AN ARTICLE WRITTEN BY THE NEWSPAPER THAT REPRESENTS, UH, I THINK ONE OF THE GOOD IDEAS IS WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO REPRESENTATIVE EVA CLAYTON HERE IN THIS, THIS ROOM NOT LONG AGO.
AND MR. HARTMAN GAVE A VERY, UH, STRONG PRESENTATION ON WHY WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION.
IF THIS, UH, INDIVIDUAL MS. MR. RAMBLE, WHOEVER WROTE THE ARTICLE, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT SAME PRESENTATION.
I THINK HE CHANGED HIS MIND ABOUT TWO HOURS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE.
IN ADDITION TO WRITING SOMETHING IN THE PAPER THAT WOULD ADDRESS THIS SITUATION IS NOT BEING A FACTUAL.
UH, WELL, NOT ONLY EDUCATING HIM, BUT, BUT WE'D NEED TO GO BACK TO THE PEOPLE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE READ THIS AS BEING A FACT TOO, AND IT'S NOT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANY WRITTEN MATERIAL, UH, EXPLAINING THE BACKGROUND AND THE POTENTIAL GOING OUT IN THE ELECTRIC MAILINGS TO EVERYBODY THAT'S ON THE SYSTEM.
SO THEY WILL AT LEAST HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO FIND OUT WHAT WENT ON INSTEAD OF JUST NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, PERIOD.
WELL, I'M GLAD THE BOARD FEELS THE SAME WAY AS I DO ABOUT THAT.
I GOT ONE OTHER LITTLE THING, THEN I'LL
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PASS IT TO ROBERT AT THE ONES I'VE BEEN TO.HAVEN'T GONE BY UNION PARK IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS SHOULD LOOK IN TO SEE THE THREE LITTLE BEARS AND THE MAMA BEAR THAT'S DOWN THERE.
I HAD THOSE PUT THAT AND I'VE GONE ON TWO OR THREE AFTERNOONS TO SEE THE LITTLE KIDS SPOT THEM AND RUN UP THERE AND CRAWL UP ON HIM AND HAD HIMSELF A BALL RIDING IN THEM AND TO SEE A FEW LITTLE BIT SCARED TO GO UP THERE UNTIL THEIR PARENTS TAKE THEM UP CLOSE AND SHOWED IT THAT THEY'RE NOT REAL, BUT I PARKED APARTMENT, BUT TAKE THE ROGER.
HE DID A GREAT JOB IN SPACING THEM OUT TO WHERE THE KIDS COULDN'T FALL OFF AND HIT ANOTHER ONE.
THE MAMA BEARS A BENCH THAT SITS THERE, JUST GOT THE BEAR, HEAD AND BARRIER IN THERE WHERE THE PARENTS COULD WATCH THE KIDS RIDE THE THREE LITTLE BEARS.
AND I THINK IT'S GREAT JUST TO WATCH.
SO IF YOU HADN'T SEEN THEM RIDE BY AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT, AND WHEN YOU SAW HIM TODAY, LOOK GOOD.
THE WHOLE PARK LOOKED GOOD TODAY.
MUST'VE BEEN 15 OR 20 PEOPLE SITTING AROUND ON BENCHES THERE AND JUST ENJOYING THE DAY A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
MOST A GREAT PLACE TOOK A WHILE.
MR. WAR, MAN, MAMA, BOY, I'M GOING TO MAKE MR. BOUNDARY REAL HAPPY.
THIS IS MATERIAL THAT I FINALLY GOT TOGETHER AFTER SIX O'CLOCK, EIGHT ON THE GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE CLEAN WATER MANAGEMENT TRUST FUND SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THIS PROJECT UNDERWAY, MARTIN MARIETTA, AND, UH, THE COPY.
UH, HE ALWAYS LIKED TO HAVE ME HAND OUT A BUNCH OF THINGS.
HE FIGURED HE FIGURES YOUR JOB EACH WEEK IS ABOUT THE POUNDAGE.
THIS IS THE GRANT AGREEMENT THAT WAS PREPARED BY THE CLEAN WATER MAN SENT DOWN HERE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.
I THINK THE LETTER BY WHICH YOU FORWARDED TO MR. HARTMAN WAS DATED MAY 10TH.
HE GOT IT TO ME WITHIN SEVERAL WEEKS.
AND THEN WE'D BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THAT.
EVER SINCE I SENT YOU A COPY OF A LETTER THAT I WROTE A RATHER LENGTHY LETTER, I WROTE TO ROY CARLTON ADDRESSING THE VARIOUS THINGS IN HERE THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED.
THIS DOCUMENT IS ONLY THE GRANT AGREEMENT.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DECORATION OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AND THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WHICH HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
IT DOES INCLUDE AN EXHIBIT A, WHICH WAS PREPARED BY RANDY GOULD.
I ENGINEER, UH, OUR HOUSE ENGINEER AND I HAVE ADDED SOME REMARKS TO THAT AFTER REQUEST A BOY COFFIN WITH WHOM I HAVE BEEN TALKING AND CORRESPONDING, I'LL BE HAPPY TO READ THIS TO YOU, BUT IT ADDRESSES THE QUALITY OBJECTIVES, THE SCOPE OF THE WORK LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPERTY AND THE BUDGET, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO USE.
UH, THE FIRST PAGE OF COURSE, IS A RESOLUTION BY WHICH YOU WOULD APPROVE THE GRANT AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZED THE MAN SAID IT, CORRECT THE SITE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE, AND THIS IS HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN QUITE ANXIOUS TO GET IT APPROVED.
WE'VE ALREADY PARKED THE LAND.
I'M GOING TO READ THE RESOLUTION SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE.
MA'AM AS LONG AS IT DON'T SAY I OH, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
ONE OF THE ITEMS IN MY, UH, WHEN I GOT IN THE OFFICE THIS MORNING, I HAD A CALL, A MAN NAMED CHARLIE CASE WILLIAMS, A LARGE LAW FIRM IN RALEIGH ONE, WHICH HAS BEEN REPRESENTING WASTE MANAGEMENT, FORMERLY AMERICAN REFUSE SYSTEMS. WE'VE HAD SOME RATHER SNIPPY LETTERS FROM THEM.
I THINK THE FIRST ONE YOU THEN PASS THAT CROSS IN THE LETTER THAT I HAD SENT OUT WASTE MANAGEMENT AT DANNY'S REQUEST TELLING THEM WHAT THEY COULD AND WHAT THEY COULDN'T DO.
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YOUNG ASSOCIATES, WHICH WAS RATHER SNIPPY AND HE WAS QUITE LEARN IT IN A WALLET.HE THOUGHT I WROTE HIM BACK TO THE CITY CODE TO HIM.
THEY SAID THAT HE HAD APPLIED NOT TO DO WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO.
AND SO I GOT A TELEPHONE CALL, THE CHARLIE CASE, ONE OF THE PARTNERS IN THIS FIRM TODAY, AND HE WAS APOLOGIZING ALL OVER HIMSELF, NOT FOR WHAT JASON HAD TO SAY, BUT FOR THE WHOLE THING, REALLY, THAT CLIENT WANTED TO LIVE PEACEFULLY WITH US, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
I ASKED HIM TO WRITE ME A LETTER.
I GOT IT LATE THIS AFTERNOON BY FAX AND MR. WARD PURSUANT YOUR REQUEST DURING A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION THIS MORNING, I AM PROVIDING YOU WITH THIS LETTER, SUMMARIZING THE ACTIONS OR WASTE MANAGER MANAGEMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE FRANCHISE FOR SOLID WASTE COLLECTION IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH UPON RECEIPT ON JULY 23RD, 1999.
I THINK THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE I WROTE WASTE MANAGEMENT, IMMEDIATELY CEASED SOLICITATION OF NEW BUSINESS, AND THE THOUGHT KIND OF CONTEMPLATED IN THE CITY'S FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH GARBAGE DISPOSAL SERVICES AND HAS NOT ENTERED INTO ANY NEW CONTRACT.
SINCE THAT TIME, I TRIED TO CALL YOU DANNY AND FOUND YOU IN RALEIGH, UH, UH, MOREOVER WASTE MANAGEMENT INTENDS TO RESPECT THE CITY'S DECISION, NOT WITHSTANDING SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT BID PROCESS.
WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS BACK.
THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS TO BE AN EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT.
THEY HAD THE SAME INFORMATION THAT EVERYBODY ELSE DID.
CONSEQUENTLY, ASSUMING THAT OTHERS SIMILARLY SITUATED OR TREATED IN THE SAME MANNER, WASTE MANAGEMENT WILL NO LONGER SOLICIT NEW BUSINESS GOVERN BASS.
TDS IS, OR GDS IS FRANCHISE AGREEMENT DURING THE TIME OF THE FRANCHISE THAT THE CITY HAS IS IN THE PROCESS OF BRANDING.
THE GDS, OF COURSE, AS WE DISCUSSED WAITRESS WASTE MANAGEMENT HAD IN GOOD FAITH, ENTERED INTO CONTRACTS WITH CUSTOMERS BEFORE STEVEN, YOUR LETTER.
HE'S PRAISING THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY FROM THE WAY HE PHRASED THIS MORNING.
BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
IT IS WASTE MANAGEMENT SIDE, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT MAKES COMPLETE THESE CONTRACTS, THOSE CONTRACTS, WITHOUT RUNNING A FOUL OF THE GDS CONTRACT.
I DID NOT GIVE HIM THAT ASSURANCE.
I TOLD HIM HE NEEDED TO TALK TO YOU.
DANNY WASTE MANAGEMENT VALUES OR A RELATIONSHIP THAT HE BELIEVES THAT HAS HAD WITH THE CITY AND WISHES TO EXPRESS HIS DESIRE, THAT THE RELATIONSHIP CONTINUED NOT WITHSTANDING THE DECISION TO SELECT GDS FOR THE FRANCHISE WITH BEST WISHES.
I CALLED HER ATTENTION TO THE ARTICLE HEADLINE ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS MORNING SUN JOURNAL.
HE HAD NOT SEEN IT OR HE DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE IT.
THIS IS JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
I'LL GET YOU A COPY OF DADDY OUT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT RESPONSE.
WELL, ONE QUESTION I WAS ASKED ABOUT ME RECYCLING.
THE COUNTY WILL STILL DO THE RECYCLING THROUGH A WASTE MANAGEMENT.
AND WE GOT A BIG ITEM ABOUT MIXED PAPER, WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE NEWSPAPERS.
THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO WE PUT THE NEWSPAPER AND THE CANS AND BOTTLES IN THE CURRENT REVENUE CYCLE.
I MEAN, THE CITY HAS BEEN DIVIDED NEWSPAPER FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY, PROVO AND DDS.
IF YOU'RE PROVIDING THAT FOR YOU NOW, INSTEAD OF DANNY, WHY DON'T WE DO WITH IT? WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE MIXED PAPER? WHERE DOES IT GO? WELL, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE CONTRACTOR IS OBLIGATED TO, TO RECYCLE, UH, THERE, THERE IS NO MARKET BASICALLY FOR IT.
AND TO BE TOTALLY HONEST WITH YOU, WHAT WASTE MANAGEMENT WITH IT? I'M NOT REAL SURE, BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT DON'T, BUT GDS HAS A CONTRACT WITH, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL ECDC IN GREENVILLE THAT WILL BE ACCEPTING THEM.
IT WILL BE HANDLED THROUGH THEM.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MORE CAREFUL ABOUT SEPARATING IT OUT THOUGH IN THE FUTURE MAY EXPECT, WELL, NOT IF YOU PUT NAMES BY WHAT MAKES BY BRIEF, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A CHANGE FROM A LOT OF FOLKS WHO'VE DONE RUN THE CUSTOMER IS TAKING STUFF AND THROW IT IN THE RECYCLE BIN AND ARS WITH SALT.
SOME OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT ACCORDING TO THE PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO BE TRAINED TO IS GARBAGE IS NOT GARBAGE ANYMORE.
IT'S TRASH, TRASH, TRASH, GARBAGE, AND OR EMS DUBLIN.
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WE NEED TO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT SEPARATED AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.IT'S AN EDUCATION PROCESS, BUT THE PROGRAM SHOULD, SHOULD GO WELL BEING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND UPDATE THE BOARD AND THE NEW CARTS.
I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THOSE WITHIN THE CITY WILL GDS WILL BE COMPLETED DELIVERING THOSE TOMORROW, UH, EFFECTIVE ON TOMORROW'S ROUTE WASTE SHOULD BE PICKING UP THEIR CARTS.
THEY'VE GOT ONE MORE CYCLE THROUGH AND THEY'LL START PICKING UP THEIR CARTS, HOPEFULLY, AND GET THOSE OUT OF YOU.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO STARTING THE PROGRAM.
I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME GLITCHES.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME DOWN OVER THE PAST MONTH THAT MR. WARD WAS RELATING IN THE LETTER HAS CAUSED QUITE A BIT OF CONFUSION IN THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THIS, THIS PROGRAM.
UH, AND, UH, I WISH IT HADN'T HAPPENED, BUT IT HAS, AND WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS IT.
BUT, UH, DDS IS ASSURED ME, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN TOWN TO, TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS.
AND YOU FOLKS, IF YOU GET IN CALLS, BE SURE TO GIVE ME A CALL AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH IT.
HASN'T BEEN AN EASY TRANSITION AS WE WERE HOPING.
LET ME ASK YOU WHAT SIZE A GARBAGE BAG GOES IN THOSE CANS.
MY WIFE IS INSISTED THAT SHE'S BOUGHT EVERY SIZE 90 TO MANKIND AND THE OLD ONES, I CAN'T GET ONE TO FIT.
SHE BUYS THESE BIG BLACK PLASTIC BAGS AND THEY JUST DON'T HAVE A FIT.
AND SHE GOT, SO I'VE BEEN EATING TUNA FISH SANDWICHES AND A 45 GALLON BAG.
WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE AS BIG, BIG ENOUGH.
AND YEAH, I TELL YOU WHERE YOU CAN GET.
SO IF YOU CAN GO DOWN TO THE MAIL THAT THEY GIVE YOU SOMETHING, SO THEY HAVE A BIG BANG.
OH, NOW YOU'VE BLOWN THE SECRET DANNY SETTING.
THIS DOES THE COMMERCIAL DUMPSTER PICK UP IS OPTIONAL AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE STORY THAT, THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN PASSING AROUND.
AND I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE EXCEPTION WITH, WITH WHAT THE GENTLEMEN RUBBED MR. WARD ON THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE SIGNED AGREEMENTS OUT THERE.
AND BECAUSE THEY DID GO OUT AND DEAL WITH A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL, THEY WERE RENTING MOST OF THE DUMPSTERS TO 98% OF THE CUSTOMERS IN THE CITY OF NEWTON.
THEY WERE RENTING THOSE BECAUSE THEY HAD FRANCHISE FOR ALL THESE MANY YEARS.
AND THEY WENT OUT TO THOSE CUSTOMERS AND SIGNED NEW AGREEMENTS ON THOSE CONTAINERS, WHICH IS NOT CONTROLLED IN OUR, IN OUR PROGRAM.
YOU CAN RENT THEM CONTAINER FROM WHOEVER WE WANTED.
UH, BUT IN THAT SIGNATURE, THEY'RE ALSO SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PICK THEM UP, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO BE ILLEGAL AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
UH, SO THEY, THEY HAVE QUITE A FEW CONTRACTS OUT THERE THAT SAY THEY HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO, TO PICK THEM UP, BUT EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER ONE, UH, THEY DO NOT HAVE A FRANCHISE IN THE CITY OF NEWTON.
THEY CAN, THEY CAN RENT, LEASE AND SALE CONTAINERS, BUT THE CITY OF NEWBURGH WILL BE PROVIDING SERVICE.
DDS JUST HAPPENED TO BE OUR AGENT FOR CITY OF NEW ONES, PROVIDING THAT SERVICE.
IF YOU HAVE A DUMPSTER FROM ARS, CORRECT.
BUT DO WE NEED TO GET ANOTHER ONE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? UH, NO, YOU CAN, YOU CAN RENT LEASE LAND, RENT, LEASE OR OWN YOUR DON'TS WITHIN THE CITY AND OUR AGENT, THE CITY OF NEWBURGH WILL PROVIDE THE SERVICE AREA AND DDS.
THIS HAPPENED TO BE THE, I MAY, I MAY ASK YOU A QUESTION TOO ON THAT.
AND I'VE BEEN READING THE STUFF IN THE PIPE AND SO FORTH, SAY CELLPHONES IN SOME OF THE LETTERS, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ARGUMENT IS OR WAS OR WHATEVER, BUT IT WASN'T A WASTE MANAGEMENT SAYING THAT, WHAT WERE THEY EXCITED THAT, THAT, AND THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THE QUOTE DID NOT INCLUDE THE COMMERCIAL PICKUP.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN TIMES I MAY, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, AND UNDERSTANDABLY THEY, THEY LOST A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR DOLLAR CONTRACT.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT HAS PUT A BIG BURDEN ON THE COMPANY, I'M SURE.
UH, BUT THEY WERE AWARE AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND WERE MORE AWARE OF ANYONE GOING IN BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A RELATIONSHIP 18 YEARS.
THEY KNEW HOW TO SIT AND OPERATE THE BABY LESS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.
THIS THING IS THE SAME AS IT WAS BEFORE, IS IT NOT? AND THEN WE QUOTE THIS THING AND GO THROUGH ALL THIS.
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WHEN I WAS FIRST A MAYOR, THE FIRST TWO OR THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING, WHEN I REMEMBER, AND SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY WANTED TO QUOTED AT A TIME BEFORE WHAT ACTUALLY WAS QUOTED, WANTED TO SPLIT OUT.AND THEY WERE SAYING, IF SOMEBODY SAID, OH, NO, IT HAS TO BE ALL ONE THING OR NOTHING BECAUSE THAT LOWERS THE COST TO THE RESIDENTS.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER WHEN THIS PIECE OF CONCRETE, I GOT
AND I THINK THE CITY HAS, HAS SORT OF BEEN WAY OFF AS THEY HAD SERVED THAT WAY.
BUT NOW IS THE TIME FOR THE CITY TO SERVE DDS WHALE AS THEY SORT OF BUSTED.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE DOING OR WHATEVER IS THE SAME THING AS ALWAYS, BUT HE KNOW THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
MR. MAYOR, WHAT HAPPENED IS CITY GRANULAR FRANCHISE? ABOUT 18 YEARS AGO IN THAT PROCESS, THERE WERE SEVERAL WHO BID THE CITY, SELECTED AMERICAN REFUGEES IN AN ABUSE SITUATION, ONE OR TWO OTHERS THAT WERE INVOLVED THAT DIDN'T WANT THEM TO BULLSHIT.
THEY PUT IN A BID AND THAT WAS IT.
SO IT WOULD WORK OUT WITH ARS, THE CONTRACT WITHDRAWN.
THEY HAVE HAD THAT CONTRACT EXTENDED SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE YEARS.
YOUR INITIAL TIME, AS I RECALL WAS FIVE YEARS, THEY CAME IN BEFORE THE EXPIRATION OF THE FIVE YEARS AND OFF OF THE CITIZEN CONCESSIONS ON LESS EXTENDED FOR ANOTHER FIVE.
BUT THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT WAS.
AND AS A RESULT OF THEIR MAKING CONCESSIONS TO THE CITY, WHICH THEN APPEARED TO BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY, THE CONTRACT WAS IN FACT EXTENDED FROM TIME TO TIME.
AND THEN THIS YEAR, THE BOARD CONCLUDED AND I THINK APPROPRIATELY.
SO IT IS CERTAINLY WORKED OUT THAT THAT SHOULD BE REBUILDING AND GIVE SOME OF THESE OTHERS.
WE WANTED TO BID ON IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY WAS WHAT'S THE ANNUAL SAVINGS FOR KEEN, UH, 50,000.
WELL, WHAT, I'M, WHAT I'M DRIVING AT.
IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING, BUT DIDN'T SOME PRIVATE POWERS COME IN AND THEY SAID, LET US DO THE COMMERCIAL OR WHATEVER.
AND AT THE TIME THE PROVIDER SAID, WELL, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE ALL THE BUSINESS PERIOD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT KEEPS THE TOTAL COST DOWN FOR THE, FOR THE RESIDENTS AND SAY, WELL, THEY MIGHT GET MY RECALLING THAT CORRECTLY.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE MINUTES OR WHATEVER, SOMEWHERE.
SO I DIDN'T WANT ANY MISUNDERSTANDING BY ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO MIGHT THINK THAT WE'VE CHANGED THE RULES OF THE GAME, ALL OF A SUDDEN, AND IT, AND THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T BELONG IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
SO I'M JUST, WELL, I'M JUST GOING BY, BY WHAT I RECALL.
AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS.
SO, UH, NOTHING SEEMS TO HAVE CHANGED FROM THE WAY WE'RE DOING THINGS AND THE WAY WE DID THINGS.
SO I DON'T, I HOPE NOBODY, UM, YOU KNOW, THINKS THAT WE'VE DONE ANYTHING THAT WASN'T CORRECT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT WE HAVE MAYOR ONE OTHER COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IT.
BUT I MADE THE GENTLEMEN WHO MADE THAT COMMENT QUOTED IN THE PAPER TODAY THAT GOVERNMENT DIDN'T BELONG IN BUSINESS.
APPARENTLY HADN'T BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THIS GOVERNMENT DID ALL OF THAT BUSINESS WITH ITS OWN CORRUPTION.
PEOPLE UNTIL THAT CONTRACT WAS AWARDED THE ARS, IT WAS AT THAT TIME, THE CITY CONCLUDED THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF IN FACT THEY CONTRACTED IT OUT TO A FRANCHISEE AND THAT'S THE WAY THIS THING STARTED.
SO THE CITY GOVERNMENT DID THE BUSINESS FOR MANY, MANY, I WOULD SAY IT IS STILL GOOD.
ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS MAKE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS SUCH THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE HAS BEEN AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO SURPRISE TO ANYBODY BECAUSE IT'S ALL THE SAME AS WHAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN.
I NEED TO GET BACK FOR A MOMENT TO THE CLEAN WATER TRUST FUND THING, A BOOK.
CAUSE IT BROUGHT UP SOMETHING THAT IS,
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THAT I'M INVOLVED IN, THAT THE COUNTY IS A AND SEVERAL COUNTIES ARE INVOLVED IN AND I'VE GOT TO TOUCH ON TONIGHT, BUT YOU GO AHEAD WITH YOURS.FIRST I DROPPED OFF TWO RESOLUTIONS TO THE VERY CENTER.
ONE OF THEM IS THE GRANTING OF SOME FUNDS.
IF WE DO IN THE CITY PROGRAM THE WEEK OF EVERY YEAR, WE UTILIZE SOME MONEY SOMETIMES.
AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T, WE CAN TURN IT OFF PACKAGE SECOND ROLL CALL, ROLL CALL.
AND THE OTHER ONE THAT I HAD IS THE RESOLUTION, EXCEPT TO SEE WHY THIS YEAR IN THE CITY, WE HAD TO RE ADVERTISE.
THIS WAS THE SECOND NOTICE WE DID NOT HAVE ONE RESPONDENT.
THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS LATE, THAT SHOWED UP.
SO BE, BUT HE WAS LATE AFTER WE OPENED THE ONE WE OPENED WAS STILL WITH THE LOWEST SPEED.
AND, UH, THAT IS FAIR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AT ABOUT $3 AND 40 CENTS, LESS PER TON THAN WE HAD LAST YEAR AVENUES, UH, LUIS SUBCONTRACT.
CAN WE GET SOME RESURFACE ON, UM, BLUE AND FEELING IT? WAS IT IN YOUR BUDGET? I DON'T KNOW.
WE WILL, WE WILL SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT ANY, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND WE, WE DO HAVE THE LIST, THE
SO YOU'VE GOT SOME SPECIAL NEEDS IN THE CAR.
WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND, I THINK DIDN'T WE? YES, YES, YES, YES.
MR. MAYOR, ON THIS CLEAN WATER, A TRUST FUND AGREEMENT, THEN ALL THIS MONEY WE'RE GETTING AND EVERYTHING, IT BRINGS UP SOMETHING THAT HAD, HAD NOT OCCURRED TO ME BEFORE THIS POINT.
BUT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, A GROUP OF PEOPLE HAS WORKED VERY HARD ON A REGIONAL CONCEPT, THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER TASK FORCE, WHICH IS ONSLOW COUNTY, THIS COUNTY, SEVERAL OTHER COUNTIES TOWARDS SOLVING THE WASTEWATER PROBLEM ON A LARGER SCALE AND WHERE IT'S, IT'S GETTING LAID OUT.
AND IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
IT'S TOO COMPLICATED TO GO INTO GREAT DETAIL AT THIS TIME, BUT THEY RECEIVED MONEY FROM THE STATE AND HIRED AN ENGINEERING FIRM SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT DID AN EXTENSIVE REPORT ON VARIOUS WAYS THAT THE WASTEWATER PROBLEMS OF EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA OR THIS SECTION OF EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA CAN BE SOLVED ON A REGIONAL BASIS THROUGH VARIOUS DISPOSAL METHODS.
AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF SCENARIOS PRESENTED IN THAT ENGINEERING REPORT, INCLUDING ONE, WHICH HAS ALWAYS ATTRACTED A LOT OF CON UH, CONTROVERSY, UH, WHICH WOULD HAVE INCLUDED AN OCEAN OUTFALL DOWN NEAR MLL ONSLOW COUNTY AREA, BUT THEY THEY'VE RECEIVED SOME MONEY TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO COME UP WITH A REGIONAL SOLUTION.
AND THEY HAVE PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BANK, ET CETERA.
WHAT I THINK THIS BOARD SHOULD DO BECAUSE WE HAVE GONE OUR OWN WAY ON THIS AND WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
WE'RE GOING TO DO A GOOD THING HERE BY TAKING THE EFFLUENT OUT OF THE RIVER AND THE OVERALL PLANS, VARIOUS PLANS THAT THEY CAME UP WITH EACH ONE, INCLUDED SOME PLANTS, DUMPING EFFLUENT INTO THE RIVER, SOME CREATED WETLANDS, THE OCEAN OUTFALL, VARIOUS AND SUNDRY TYPES OF DISPOSAL.
I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER JUST UNOFFICIALLY, ALLOWING ME TO TELL THEM THAT THE CITY OF NEWBURGH IS NOT GOING TO COME TO THEM NOW AND SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE.
YOU'VE GOT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BANK.
AND SINCE WE'RE PART OF THIS REGIONAL WASTEWATER TASKFORCE, WE FEEL THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE
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GOING OUR SEPARATE WAY, A LITTLE BIT OF THAT MONEY OUGHT TO BE OURS AND NOT TO BE GIVEN TO US TO APPLY TOWARD OUR SOLUTION.I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM COVERING A GOOD SECTION OF EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA.
AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN OURS THROUGH THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER T UH, THROUGH THE, UH, CLEAN WATER MANAGEMENT TRUST FUND AGREEMENT AND GIVING US THE MONEY TO PURCHASE THE MARTIN MARIETTA PROPERTY AND ASSISTING US WITH, UH, INTEREST RATES ON REDOING OUR SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT.
AND I WOULD LIKE HOPEFULLY THE BOARD TO GIVE ME PERMISSION TO REASSURE THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER TASKFORCE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME UP AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE SAYING, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU STILL GOT A MILLION DOLLARS TOWARD, TOWARD THE COST OF SOME PROJECT IN THE FUTURE.
AND PART OF THAT OUGHT TO BE OURS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED FAR MORE MONEY THAN THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO TAKE ANY OF IT AWAY FROM THEM.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE BRIGHT MORALLY OR LEGALLY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, I DIDN'T WANT THIS TO COME UP AND SOMEBODY LATER SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY OVER THERE.
WE OUGHT TO DIP OUR BEAKS IN AND GET PART OF THAT TOO.
WELL, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T NEED TO SAY MUCH RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SAY WE DON'T WANT, WELL, IT'S SUCH A TINY AMOUNT OF MONEY LEGALLY, LEGALLY.
I DON'T THINK WE COULD TOUCH IT BECAUSE I THINK IT GOES TO THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER TASKFORCE TOWARD AN OVERALL SOLUTION.
AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THAT OVERALL SOLUTION.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO VOLUNTEERING AND TELLING THEM THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR SOMETHING WE MIGHT DO.
WELL, THEY'VE GOT A MILLION DOLLAR, SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A BILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS AND I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE, I JUST DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD.
UH, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ANTICIPATE GOING TO THEM SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PULL OUT OF THIS THING BECAUSE WE'VE GOT OUR OWN SOLUTION, BUT WE WON'T WANT SOME OF THAT.
I DON'T NEED TO DO THAT, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO TELL HIM THAT WE DON'T WANT DON'T WANT TO BE, BUT I, I'M NOT.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE, THERE'S SUCH A MAJOR PROBLEM OUT THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE GREEDY.
I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN MORE THAN OUR SHARE HERE FROM A STATE AND A PLAN FOR US TO COMPLETE WELL, IT'S, WE'RE PART, WE'RE PART OF THE OVERALL PLANNING PROCESS OR PART OF THE OVERALL PROCESS.
AND, BUT YET WE ARE, BUT YET THIS PLAN IS NOT PART OF WHAT, ANYTHING THEY'VE DONE.
THIS PLAN WE'VE GONE OUR OWN SEPARATE WAY.
WE'VE HAD, THEY'VE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
AND WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD NO INPUT HERE INTO THEIR PLANS WITH THIS, BUT WE HAVEN'T ASKED THEM FOR ANY OF THAT.
WELL, THIS HAS BEEN SET ASIDE WITH A PERIOD AS IT HAS BEEN SET ASIDE.
UH, IT'S BASICALLY FOR THE, THE MONEY THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY IF IT'S USED, WILL BE FOR PART OF THE COST OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY OF ANY PART OF THE PLAN THAT THEY LATER DECIDED TO PUT INTO EFFECT, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THE PLAN.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE MILLION DOLLARS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT IT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD WANT TO SAY NO, WE DON'T WANT IT, BUT IT WOULD MAY BE THAT WE WILL BE PART OF THE REGIONAL SOLUTION, THIS, THIS PROJECT THAT WE HAVE GOING HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE PART OF, UH, OF, UH, THE OVERALL REGIONAL SOLUTION.
SO IN THIS PERIOD, WE MIGHT WANT SOME OF THAT MONEY TO BE PART OF IT CONSIDER WHAT MAX IS SAYING.
THAT'S ALL I WANT YOU TO DO IS THINK ABOUT IT.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA WITH WASTEWATER DISPOSAL, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE GREEDY.
NO, BUT I THOUGHT YOU HAVE GOT A GOOD SOLUTION HERE.
AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS BEHIND THE SCENES.
WHAT'D YOU ASK IT FOR, WITH PERMISSION TO SPEAK FOR THIS BOARD AND TELL HIM THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO NOT TO WORRY ABOUT US, BLINDSIDE THEM AND SAYING THAT'S OUR MONEY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT UNOFFICIALLY.
A LITTLE MISCELLANEOUS THOUGHT WE WERE ON MISCELLANEOUS.
WE WERE, BUT I WOULDN'T HAVE THE ONLY ISSUE THAT I HAD, UH, WITH IS THAT THERE IS A VIDEO CASSETTE IN FRONT OF EACH ONE OF YOU.
THAT IS, UH, A, UH, PRESENTATION ON A WATER RECLAMATION PROJECT CONCERNING RECLAIMED QUARRIES.
THAT TOOK PLACE IN CALIFORNIA.
THIS IS THE OLDEST PROJECT IN THE UNITED STATES.
LIKE THIS WAS BACK IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES.
IT STARTED, IT'S STILL AN OPERATION AND IT SHOWS YOU A LOT ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH WATER REUSE DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
SO IT WAS THE START AT THE VERY BEGINNING WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE CHASING HIM.
ANYWAY, ANYBODY DID YOU HIT ANYTHING? I SEE.
UH, I'D LIKE TO SAY MR. WARREN, GO AHEAD.
I HAD SEEN THE REDRAFT, THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS ON THE ITEM 11 IN YOUR AGENDA.
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AND MY REIMBURSEMENT DID NOT SAY ANYTHING.JUST BE MINDFUL THAT I GOT COVERED UP.
I DIDN'T PASS IT OUT TO Y'ALL, BUT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM SATURDAY WITH A MEDICAL PROBLEM.
UH, I'VE LOST WEIGHT AND I DON'T NEED TO HAVE A MONEY TO TAKE MY DIABETES, SUGAR PILL ANYMORE.
I FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY, BUT I LIKE TO COMMAND THE HOSPITAL AND THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THE WAY, AND I HANDLED EVERYTHING AND I MAY HAVE, IT WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY GREAT.
AND IN FACT, THE EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTOR CAME UP TO ME AND HE RECOGNIZED ME LATER ON AS THE MAYOR.
AND BEFORE I LET HIM WORK ON ME, I TOLD HIM THAT THE POLICE HAD THAT MIRANDA ACT.
THEY READ THE PAPER ON THAT LITTLE THING.
I WANTED TO ASK HIM AND HE SAID, WHAT'S THAT? I SAID, HAVE WE EVER
AND THEN TODAY I GOT A FOLLOW UP THING, WHICH I JUST THINK IS ASLEEP, YOU KNOW, FROM HOSPITAL THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD TO GIVE THE PATIENTS.
I MEAN, EVERY LITTLE THING, LIKE, HOW DID YOUR RIGHT X-RAY GUY TREAT YOU THIS? AND THAT, I MEAN, THAT WAS REALLY GOOD.
AND IN A SENSE, I'M NOT GOING TO RUN FOR REELECTION.
I CAN'T RUN ANYWAY, BUT I'M NOT.
I WOULD TELL Y'ALL THAT I WAS X-RAYED AND I WOULD PROBABLY TELL YOU THAT IT MIGHT'VE X-RAYED MY HEAD AND FOUND NOTHING, BUT I'M GOING TO RESERVE THAT AND JUST LET YOU KEEP GUESSING.
SO ANYBODY WANT TO ADJOURN? I'M IN FAVOR OF IT? YES, MA'AM.