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IF YOU'RE READY, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
AND WE WEREN'T OPEN WITH A PRAM AROUND WHEN JIM HUGGING A CORNERSTONE CHURCH, EXCUSE ME, BUT I DON'T THINK HE'S HERE TO MIND.
FATHER, WE PRAISE YOU TONIGHT AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AND FOR THE GOVERNING BOARD AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WANT DECISIONS MADE THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EVERYONE AND ARE PLEASING TO YOU.
WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THIS BOARD OF ALDERMAN TONIGHT, SPECIAL WISDOM IN DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES BEFORE THAT THE THINGS THAT ARE DONE WOULD BE PLEASING TO YOU.
AND WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME.
MA'AM HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.
THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TONIGHT, EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION HONORING MR. JOHN ROBINSON, WHO RECENTLY PASSED AWAY.
HE WAS PRESIDENT NAACP AND DONNA A LOT, BUT THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE SOLELY MISSED.
AND WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION, HIS PROCLAMATION TONIGHT AND THE CITY'S RECOGNITION ABOUT LOSS.
IT SAYS, WHEREAS THE CITY OF NEW HAVEN MOURNS THE LOSS OF JOHN ROBINSON, PRESIDENT OF NAACP, AND WHEREAS MR. ROBINSON, A LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY WAS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN'S ALLIANCE AND A MASON.
WHEREAS HE SERVED IN THE NAVY FROM 1944 TO 1946 AND WAS ACTIVE IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS FOR 20 YEARS.
WHEREAS MR. ROBINSON SERVED ON THE NEWMAN BOARD OF EDUCATION FOR SIX YEARS BEFORE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM MERGED WITH CRAVEN COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS THE EXEMPLARY CONDUCT AND SENSE OF FAIRNESS, HE HAS DEMONSTRATED IN ALL HIS ACTIVITIES AS FURTHER THE CAUSE OF BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
AND IT'S BEEN AN INFLUENCE FOR GOOD AND THE GROWTH AND PROGRESS OF THE CITY.
NOW THERE FOR ITA BAYLESS ON BEHALF OF THE NEWMAN BOARD OF ALL OF THEM AND ALL OF OUR CITIZENS RECOGNIZE THE GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY JOHN ROBINSON AND OTHERS AND OFFERS TO THE FAMILY, THIS SINCERE EXPRESSION OF CONDOLENCE.
AND WHO'S HERE, ANYBODY HERE FROM FAMILY TO, WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DID.
UM, I REMEMBER MR. ROBINSON, I THINK FROM THE TIME I WAS AROUND, I WAS SIX YEARS OLD AND I'VE KNOWN HIM ALL MY LIFE.
AND I KNEW HIM AS HAVING RAN RESTAURANTS SO LOUD FRIED CRABS.
AND, BUT, UH, HE WAS A GOOD MAN.
HE ALWAYS WORKED TOWARDS, UM, TRYING TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR OTHER FOLKS.
I TELL EVERYBODY, I SAY, AS A CHILD, HE WAS MR. ROBINSON, BEFORE HE LEFT, IT WAS JUST MY FRIEND, JOHNNY.
HE WAS VERY ACTIVE IN MUCH OF THE COMMUNITY.
HE WAS SO HUMBLED KINDS OF THINGS THAT HE DID YOU DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT, BUT DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW ABOUT IS A REAL HOUSE.
AND HIS ESTABLISHMENTS WERE NEAR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND PEOPLE WOULD COME BY THE RESTAURANT.
AND TELL ME ABOUT, I REMEMBER WHEN MR. ROBSON BOUGHT US FOOD, MR. ROBINSON SITTING IN HIS HOME, HE WAS JUST, HE WAS JUST A VERY SPECIAL
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MAN.HE, HE TRULY MISSED IN THE COMMUNITY.
WELL, HE, UH, IT'S FUNNY ABOUT THE RIB HOUSE.
I WAS IN TEXAS A FEW MONTHS AGO.
THE SECOND TIME I'VE BEEN TO DALLAS AND I TOLD HIM DOWN OUT, I WANT TO DEED SOME, SOME REAL TEXAS RIBS.
I'D HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT THEM GUYS.
I GOT TO TAKE YOU TO A PLACE CALLED DICKIES.
SO I WENT IN THERE AND IN TYPICAL BULL TIME, BAYLESS, NEWBURN FASHION, WHEN I GOT DONE AND I FOUND IT, THIS ALL WAS ON MY HEIRLOOMS, BUT I ASKED THEM, THEY SAID, YOU NEVER HEARD OF IT.
I SAID, NO, BUT YOU AIN'T NEVER HEARD OF ROBIN
SO ANYWAY, UH, I HAD TO GIVE A EULOGY TODAY.
I WAS TELLING MR. HARTMAN DOWN AND I WAS ASKED TO DO, I'VE NEVER DONE ONE IN MY LIFE FOR A GOOD FRIEND AND AN EX EMPLOYEE THAT PASSED AWAY.
HE WAS MY AGE DOWN IN WILMINGTON.
THEN THAT WAS A HUMBLING EXPERIENCE TO BE ASKED TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, THEN TO COME BACK AT NIGHT AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, MR. ROBINSON, UH, ALL WE CAN ALL HOPE IS WHEN WE PASS ON, SOMEBODY WILL SAY SOME KIND WORDS ABOUT US, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THAT'LL HAPPEN.
THE ONLY THING I LISTENED TO APPROXIMATION AND LIKE ROB SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KNOWN HIM ALL OUR LIFE AND YOU KNOW, I'M 46 RALF WHAT AT FIVE, NOTHING YOU'D BEEN IN RESTAURANT BUSINESS MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU FIRST KNOWING HIM, HE WAS IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT THING WE HAVE TONIGHT IS THE REQUEST AND PETITION OF CITIZENS IS ANYBODY HERE THAT HAS COME TO SPEAK ABOUT SOME SPECIFIC THING IN GENERAL.
FELL ON THE FIRST ROAD, COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, GETTING RAISED OR MAYOR JIM ROBERT.
I'M A MEMBER OF, I LIVE IN THE WOODROW COMMUNITY, STANDING FOR YOU MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO SEE ME AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE.
I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT I'D LIKE TO PLACE BEFORE THE BOARD TO SEEDING.
AND THEY'RE NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER.
UM, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED CONCERNING, UM, THE FLOODING IN THE WOODROW AREA.
AND BASICALLY WE'RE MORE CONCERNED WITH RAISING OUR HOUSES.
WELL, WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE SEEN THE LIST OF PRIORITIES AND WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY.
UM, FIRST, JUST A SECOND, MR. WARD WAS ASKING YOU TO PULL THE MICROPHONE CLOSER TO YOU.
I GUESS I'M NOT USED TO TALKING IN FRONT OF A MICROPHONE NOW.
WELL, WE HAVE SEEN THE LIST OF PRIORITIES.
UM, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY SOME ACTUALLY WE'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW OR WHAT CRITERIA WAS USED TO SELECT HOMES TO BE RAISED IN THE WOODROW COMMUNITY.
UM, IF YOU COULD, THAT'S ONE OF THE, THAT'S THE FIRST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE FOR US TO TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME AS YOU CALL THEM OUT, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THEM.
MIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS, MIKE, WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT? SURE.
WELL, THAT'S IT CAN'T WE WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THE, OF PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS THIS REQUEST FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, OH, THIS IS REQUESTED OF THE CITIZENS.
IS THIS ON THIS SUBJECT COMING UP? NEXT ONE IS ABOUT THE FUND.
AND HE'S JUST ASKING ABOUT IT.
UM, AS FAR AS THE LIST, MY RFPS THEY'RE BASED ON BENEFIT COST RATIO THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY THE DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT.
AND THE WAY TO GET AROUND THAT RATIO IS THEY LOOK AT, UH, AT THE HOUSE.
I THINK WE SUBMITTED 93 HOUSES.
THEY RAN A BENEFIT COST RATIO AND ENDED UP FUNDING US TO TREAT A TOTAL OF 65 HOUSES, SIX THROUGH ACQUISITION AND 59 THROUGH ELEVATING THE HOUSES.
AND WHEN THEY RAN THEIR BENEFIT COST RATIO, THEY CUT IT OFF AT 65.
THE REASON BEING, UM, THE WAY THAT YOU CAN DO THEM AT COST RATIO IS THEY LOOK AT THE COST PROJECTED COST OF DAMAGES TO THIS UNIT OVER IT FROM 90 Y.
THEN THEY LOOK AT THE PROJECTED COSTS OF MAKING THE IMPROVEMENTS TO IT.
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THERE.UH, IN SOME INSTANCES, UH, WE HAVE THEM AS HIGH AS THE BENEFIT TO COST.
SO EVERY $15 THAT THEY PROJECTED SPENDING TO FIX THAT COUNSELOR FOR A SLIDE, UH, THEY WOULD OWN THAT SPIN $1 ACTUALLY ELEVATE.
SO THE 15 TO ONE RATIO, UH, THE LIST GOES DOWN TO OH 0.97, WHERE THEY'RE SPENDING JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TO ELEVATE IT AND THEY PROJECTED IT WOULD COST HIM REPAIRS OVER THE LIFE OF THE UNIT.
THE REASON WE DIDN'T GET INTO 93 WAS THOSE REMAINING ONES FAIL WELL BELOW THAT 1.0, WHICH IS WHERE THE BENEFITS AND COSTS ARE EITHER.
WHAT KIND OF, LET ME ASK THE QUESTION IS THIS GENTLEMAN AND THE PEOPLE THAT HE REPRESENTS HAVE, Y'ALL SEEN THE LIST OF 93 HOUSES.
NOT SEEN THE LIST OF NINETIES OF 93 HOUSES.
SO YOUR QUESTION WOULD BE WHY THOSE 65.
AND I GUESS IF MIKE CAN SHOW YOU THE LIST OF 93, THAT WOULD PROBABLY ANSWER
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS HE'S ASKING WHY THESE AND NOT SOME OTHERS, IF HE HAD LISTED THE 93, THE CITY HAD BIG, I THINK HE'S ASKING BASED ON THAT 65, HOW WOULD THEY PRIORITIZE? THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT.
UM, IN FACT, UM, ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS IS, YOU KNOW, WE IS THE MEMBERS OF WOODROW COMMUNITY WHO WILL RECEIVE THE BENEFIT, THIS MONEY.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE GREATEST RISK FOR BEING FLOODED AGAIN IN UPCOMING HURRICANES OR IN THIS PAST, UH, TROPICAL SCORING THAT WAS HERE, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD BE FIRST ON THE LIST TO GET RAISED.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE, THERE'S NO LESS THAN 12 RENTAL PROPERTIES ON THIS LIST.
AND THESE ARE RENTAL PROPERTIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVE IN, IN, IN THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE GIVEN A HIGHER PRIORITY.
CERTAINLY THEN, YOU KNOW, A RENTAL PROPERTY IN THE COMMUNITY, REGARDLESS OF ITS VALUE TO THE LANDLORD.
UM, I WENT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EFFECTED ON THE LIST AND WE WROTE AROUND AND LOOKED AT THE HOUSES AS THEY ARE PRIORITIZED.
AND I THINK THAT, AND THEN I TALKED TO MIKE GABRIEL, AND SO MIKE HAS A RESPONSE TO SOME OF THESE CONCERNS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE CONCERNS WERE AND WRITE FOR YOURSELF, BUT WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, MIKE WAS TELLING US THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONES WHO PRIORITIZE.
SO I WAS ASKING MIKE, IF THERE WAS SOME WAY HE COULD FIND OUT IF THERE IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN DO HERE.
THIS IS, AS I WROTE DOWN ONE STREET, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF, UH, UNITS THAT ARE UNOCCUPIED, BUT THEY ARE PRIORITIZED OVER THE ONES THAT ARE OCCUPIED.
AND THEN THEY HAD THE ONES THAT WERE, UH, ON A HIGHER LEVEL.
THAT WOULD SEEMED TO ME THAT I DON'T REALLY KNOW BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE JUDGING MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT, BUT IT WAS SEEMED TO ME LIKE THE NUMBER ONE HOUSE THAT THEY HAVE ON THAT'S THE FIRST PRIORITY, IF I HAD TO CHOOSE WOULD DEFINITELY NOT HAVE BEEN.
AND I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, TO THE NAKED EYE, TO PEOPLE WHO WERE THREATENED BY FLORIDA IS GETTING READY TO KNOCK US DOWN.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE GET TO WONDERING, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS DONE? RIGHT? AND I ASKED MIKE, IF HE WOULD FIND OUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO HERE, AND WE CAN HAVE SOME INPUT IN HOW THIS IS TO BE DONE, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WHAT WE CAN DO UNTIL THE MONEY RUNS OUT.
AND SUPPOSE WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS RELOCATED AND ELEVATED HOUSES THAT ARE UNOCCUPIED AND THE MONEY WAS UP.
AND THERE'S SOMEBODY OVER HERE WHO DIDN'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR HOUSE TO BE RAISED AND THEY WET.
SO MIKE WAS GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT AND IF YOU RESPOND TO THAT, THAT WAS HELPING ME I'M SURE.
UH, I SPOKE WITH
AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS TO APPROACH TO SAY, UH, THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FUNDED WITH PRIORITIES ABOUT SAY, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO IS TO GIVE THEM TO THE SITE WITH A PROPOSAL THAT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, WHO WENT AND WHO DID TO HAVE THESE
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NUMBERS FURTHER MODIFIED OR CHANGED AROUND SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY GOT WAY AT DO IN FACT, GET EXTRA POINTS.I WAS CONFUSED ON THAT QUESTION BECAUSE ARE YOU TELLING ME THEN THAT THE LIST OF 93 HOUSES WAS SUBMITTED, THAT THEY WERE BROUGHT IN THIS COST BENEFIT, SO TO SPEAK RATIO, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE PRIORITY IN WHICH THEY WERE GOING TO BE FIXED.
THE NUMBER ONE, ONE FIRST AND THE NUMBER TWO, NO ONE'S DOLLAR COST EFFECTIVENESS OCCUPIED, OR, OR NOT, UH, CLOSE TO THE WATER IS ABSOLUTELY STRAINED
AND IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU COULD SEE THE LIST, WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO YOU NOW WITH, WITH MY, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, SIR, I'D LIKE TO BRING IT UP TO YOU.
IN FACT, YOU'RE PROBABLY THE FIRST GUY THAT'S EVER ASKED FOR PERMISSION.
AND MY
HE LEARNED, SIR, THAT, THAT LIST AS YOU SEE IT, IT DOESN'T EVEN, IT REALLY DOESN'T REPRESENT A COST-EFFECTIVE METHOD FOR RAISING HOUSES BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST ONE IS ON OAKS ROAD AND THE OTHER ONE IS ON DANIELS.
ANOTHER ONE IS DOWN ON HIGH STREET HERE AND THERE.
SO, UM, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION AND WHEN MR. MAYO WAS IN RUNNING THE PROGRAM OR WAS IN CHARGE OF THE FUNDS OR WHATEVER, UM, HE SAID THAT IF THERE WAS ONE HOUSE IN AN AREA THAT WAS GOING TO BE RAISED, THEN THEY WOULD DO ALL THE HOUSES AT THAT TIME TO BE MORE COST-EFFECTIVE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT LEEWAY IS BUILT INTO THE PROGRAM.
WE'RE NOT, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME ASK, JUST FOR MY OWN BENEFIT, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY A STATE PERSON DID THIS, DID THIS PERSON DO IT? I MEAN, AFTER COMING DOWN AND LOOKING THE AREA, OPEN THAT KIND OF THING, OR DID THEY JUST TAKE METRIC INPUT? IF YOU WILL, BY SAYING THIS, THE HOUSE IS SO OLD X AMOUNT OF YEARS OLD, THIS IS THE PROBLEM.
IT'S ALL INSIGHTFUL WITH AN NYT AT ALL AND COME OUT IN SOME, IT WAS BASED ON THEIR INSPECTION OF THE AREA AND ALSO FACTS.
UH, UH, THEY TOOK THAT INFORMATION.
AND, BUT MIKE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THIS LIST IS NOT WRITTEN IN STONE.
AS FAR AS THE CITY IS CONCERNED THAT YOU DO INTEND TO WRITE TO THIS.
THIS IS THE F THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.
AND YOU WILL GO FROM HERE TO THE STATE TO SEE ABOUT REARRANGING THE PROGRAM.
BECAUSE THESE LOOK AT IT FROM A DOLLAR STANDPOINT, WHICH IS THE LATEST, THE INSURANCE DEALS EVERY YEAR.
THAT'S WHAT THEY LIKE TO LOOK AT IT.
BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO DO IS TO SEE IF BETTER, WE'LL MODIFY THIS BASED ON WEATHER AND THE STORMS, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAD EXPECTED TO DO.
I, WE, MIKE AND I TALK TO HER TO EXPECT IT, TO ASK YOU GUYS ABOUT TONIGHT WAS IF THERE IS SOMEONE WE CAN APPEAL TO SO THAT WE CAN READJUST THAT.
AND IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS BOTHERED BECAUSE THEIR NAME IS LOW AND THE OTHER ONE IS HIGH.
AND THAT'S WHY I WENT, WALKED AROUND, GOT BIT BY THE SIZE AND SKEETERS, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOK INTO, SEE FOR MYSELF, YOU KNOW, THESE HOUSES.
AND, AND IT JUST, IF SOMEONE WHO ARE COMPILES, THAT LIST WERE WALKING AROUND AND WOODROW, IT WOULD NOT HAVE COME OUT LIKE THAT.
I'M SURE JUST FROM WHAT THEY SEE.
AND SO WE, I WAS THINKING THAT THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN COULD WRITE TO SOMEONE, CALL SOMEONE, DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE WAY THEY HAVE PRIORITIZED AND STUFF.
WHAT WE CAN DO, WE CAN DO THE ANALYSIS OF THE UNITS THAT WORK UNDER.
WE CAN PROPOSE THE SYSTEM TO MODIFY THE PRIORITIES.
AND IF THE STATE GIVES IT A NOD, THEY'RE WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT.
THEN WHAT WE'LL NEED TO DO IS COME BACK HERE AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO A MEETING THE PRIORITIES AND SEND THEM TO THE STATE FOR APPROVAL.
AND THAT NEEDS TO BE A BOARD ACTION, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THE LIST THAT'S THERE.
NOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WAIT AND SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOSE WHEN YOU CHANGE THE PRIORITIES.
LEMME, LEMME ASK YOU SOMETHING.
IF THE INTENT IS TO, JUST TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM HAVING HURRICANE DAMAGE DUE TO WATER, THEN YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S HOUSE QUOTE UNQUOTE IS GETTING WAY OUT OF GODWIT AND SOMEBODY DIDN'T, I DON'T REALLY SEE HOW THE PERSON
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THAT DIDN'T GET WET IS GOING TO LOSE BY HAVING SOMEBODYWELL, THEY MAY SAY I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY THEN THE FACT THAT A HOUSE THAT NOBODY IS IN VERSUS A HOUSE THAT SOMEBODY IS IN, YOU KNOW, SEEING, I MEAN, I CAN'T SEE ME GOING TO SPEND $40,000 ON THE LITTLE TRAILER, A LITTLE HOUSE WITH NOBODY'S LIVING IN IT AND THEN RUN OUT OF MONEY AT THE END AND DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO SPIN ON EVERYBODY ELSE FROM DOING IT.
I THINK, I THINK IF THE STATE HAS ALLOCATED THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THOSE PARTICULAR HOMES, I REALLY THINK WE CAN WORK WITH THEM ON PRIORITIES.
IT'S HARD SAY BECAUSE IT IS RALEIGH DEALING WITH RALEIGH, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE WILLING TO ALLOW US TO REARRANGE THE PRIORITIES SOMEWHAT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE NUMBER OF HOUSES.
ALL IT'S GOING TO DO IS LIKE YOU SAY, PUT, UM, I HAD ONE CONCERN TOO ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE STATE AND THAT IS DELAYING ALL THAT TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
WHY NOT? WHY, WHY DON'T WE DO THIS INSPECTION PRY OFF DEPARTMENT? AREN'T THEY A WIRE? I WOULDN'T, THEY BE AWARE AND PUBLIC WORKS AREAS, STREETS, AND THIS AND THAT.
AND THE OTHER, I MEAN, YOU COULD MAKE A GENERALIZATION OF, OF CATEGORIZATION THAT THEY USE ARE IN A WET AREA.
THESE ARE NOT, AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MONOPOLY GAME, MOVE THE THING AROUND AND THEN, AND THEN TAKE THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
BUT I DON'T, I'M LIKE BARBARA, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH.
THAT'S JUST, IT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.
I THINK THEY ALL DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE DESIRE OF OUR BOARD TO FIX THE ONES THAT ARE WET FIRST.
I MEAN, THAT WAS THE INTENTION TO GET THEM UP OUT OF THE WATER AND THEREFORE, AND THEN GO BACK WITH A LIST ALREADY PROPOSED.
THIS IS THE ONE WE LIKED FOR IT TO LIVE.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU CAN AVOID SOME DELAY BY DOING THAT PROCESS.
IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO REARRANGE THE SCHEDULE WITH THE STATE OR THE LIST OR THE STATE THAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE SOME DELAY, I DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA, BUT, BUT YOU CAN PRETTY WELL BET THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
I WENT IN FOR THE STATE TO GIVE US THE MONEY.
I THINK THE, AS FAR AS THE STATE GOES, THE FIRST THING WE'RE WANT TO BE DOING IS GOING OUT THERE WITH THE ENGINEERS, UH, GETTING ONTO THE HOUSES, SEEING WHAT'S NECESSARY.
UH, I THINK THAT TIME PERIOD DOING THAT WORK WILL GIVE US TIME TO GET AN AMENDMENT THROUGH THE STATE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE'LL SEE IT THE WAY I THINK WE'LL BE OKAY.
AS LONG AS THE STATE DOESN'T HOLD THE STUFF, IT'S TAKE TWO YEARS TO GET THE MONEY FROM THE STATE HEARING.
JULIE FINALLY SAID, YES, YOU CAN HAVE THE MONEY SO THAT, YOU KNOW, LEMME ASK YOU ONE, PLEASE, THE 65 HOUSES ON THIS LIST.
NOW LET'S JUST PRETEND THAT THERE'S SOME WAY, AND MAYBE THERE IS A WAY OF KNOWING.
I MEAN, THEY RANKED THEM IN THIS ORDER.
LET'S JUST SAY, IS THERE SOME WAY TO RANK THE WETTEST HOUSE OR THE, OR THE TOP 10 WHERE THIS ONE'S 25, WHATEVER ARE YOU, ARE YOU SAYING THEN THAT ALL THIS ENGINEERING STUDY OF THE METHODOLOGY OF RAISING EACH HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE ALL 65 BEFORE YOU RAISED THE FIRST ONE? OR WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO LIKE, TAKE A LOOK AT THE FIRST ONE AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
YOU JACK THIS ONE UP, PUT BLOGS ON IT OR WHATEVER, I'M GOING TO START JACKING THAT ONE AND MOVING IT AND MOVE ON TO THE MAXIMUM, BECAUSE IF THE FIRST 10 OF THEM OR 15 OF THEM, OR 20 OF THEM, OR WHATEVER PERCENTAGE SIGNS ARE REALLY THE ONES THAT ARE IN DANGER, THEN, THEN YOU KNOW, THE QUICKER THEY ARE GOTTEN UP IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
AND I MEAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT TIME PRESSURE I LIVE ON THE RIVER AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M PRESSURE WASHING STUFF, RIGHT.
I'M SURE TO BE PRESSURE WASHING AGAIN.
AND A COUPLE OF DAYS I CAN RELATE TO THAT REAL WELL.
SO WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT BASED ON WHICH ONES ARE THE WASTE WHILE THE SAME WAS, I DIDN'T THINK THAT OF CALLS AND LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT CAUSES ANY DELAY.
AND LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE, IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH GETTING RALEIGH OR ANYBODY, TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR INTENT IS TO DO THE LIST, BUT TO DO IT FIRST OFF WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDER THE MOST UNDER THE GUN PROBLEM WITH MY, MY STATEMENT ABOUT THE
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DELAYED HINGES ON DEALING WITH RALEIGH AND KNOWING HOW THEY HAVE TO PASS EVERYTHING FROM DESK TO DESK TO DESK BEFORE ANYBODY HAS THE NERVE TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S DO IT THIS WAY.I HOPE THAT I CERTAINLY HOPE THERE'S NO DELAY.
LIKE I HAVEN'T SEEN THE LIST, BUT I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF LIST SEEING A PRIORITY, WHICH REQUIRES THE RENOVATORS OR THE CONTRACTORS TO LEAVE FOR ALL THE ROUND.
IS THERE ANY WAY WITHOUT ANY FURTHER DELAY THAT WE COULD DO IT BLOCK BY BLOCK SO WE CAN SEE SOME PROGRESS.
SO WE WOULD GET THAT BLOCK OUT OF HARM'S WAY AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT BLOCK BASED ON THE PRICE WELL, IF YOU GO BACK AND JUST TOOK A, A HIGHLIGHTER AND TOOK THE MAP WOODROW IN THAT AREA, IN THE HIGH-NET WHERE THE WATER WENT, THAT'S GOING TO TELL YOU WHERE THE HOUSES ARE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY EASY ANYWAY, BUT THE BOARD IS INTERESTED IN MIKE.
SO IT'D BE REAL CLEAR BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANY DELAYS.
AND WE WANT TO GET TO PEOPLE THAT ARE IN HOMES OR IN DANGER, OUT OF DANGER, AS SOON AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
AND THESE FUNDS CALLED DRI THESE ONES, UH, THERE'S A DRI RECOVERY INITIATIVE.
THESE FUNDS WERE FROM THE, THESE, THESE SPONGES FROM THE HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM.
AND IT WAS $2 MILLION, 2 MILLION, 60 TO $62,353 TO RAISE 59 HOMES TO AN ELEVATION OF 13 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL AND ACQUIRE SIX HOUSES FOR A DEMOLITION.
THIS CAME FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
THIS LETTER IS FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
LET ME, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
AND, AND I CAN KIND OF GO ALONG WITH WHAT MAX WAS SAYING ABOUT YOU REALLY DON'T WANT ANY MORE DELAYS, BUT WHEN THEY GAVE, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY SUBMIT, WHEN THEY AWARDED THE GRANT, WAS THE GRANT AWARDED BASED ON DOING IT THEIR WAY, ALWAYS THEY DON'T LIVE HERE.
THAT'S THE THING THAT SCARES ME.
THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IT THEIR WAY.
WE'RE GOING TO GO REQUEST A CHANGE.
THEN THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT MAX SAID, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF THE LADIES IS GOING TO DO.
AND IS THIS REAL? IS THIS GOING TO, UM, IS THIS GOING TO JEOPARDIZE THE ONES THAT ARE SLATED TO BE DONE? I THINK WE WORK WITH A PRODUCTS WHERE WE'RE SAYING, LET'S SAY INSTEAD OF THE WAY THAT WE HAVE THE RATINGS HERE, WE WANT THAT RANKING SYSTEM MODIFIED TO GET THROUGH THE WETNESS.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WILL LISTEN TO.
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET THERE.
THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT RENTAL PROPERTY VERSUS OWNER-OCCUPIED GETTING OWNER OCCUPIED.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT SPOKEN FROM SOLVENT ABOUT IT, OTHER FOLKS, BUT, UH, THEY DON'T DRAW THAT DISTINCTION.
AND THAT'S A PRIORITY APPROACH THAT PROBABLY WILL SELL THEM, BUT WHO GETS WITH FIRST, THEY MIGHT GO FOR THE ONE ON OCCUPIED, NOT BEING FIRST, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK I SAW TWO, AT LEAST TWO UNITS THAT WERE HIGH ON PRIORITY.
HOW, HOW SOON WOULD SOME RESPONSE FROM THE STATE COME BACK TO YOU ONCE YOU BEGAN THE PROCESS AND THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA LIKE, THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY NEED.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW NOW IS HOW LONG YOU THINK IT MAY TAKE, BECAUSE LET'S GIVE HIM A BETTER MAN AS IT IS.
MA'AM HOW SOON HAD YOU PLANNED TO START THE PROJECT, A GOOD PLACE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW? DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING ON HOW SOON DO WE PLAN TO START A PROJECT? WE MAY SEE SOME HOUSES IN THE ELEVATED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THE NEXT YEAR.
AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST KINDA THROWING OUT.
UH, THE LAND IS GOING TO REALLY THROW OUT IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING TO THE YEAR, 2000, THEN WITH US SUPPORTING YOU, PUSHING THE BOY FOR A NEW LINEUP, YOU KNOW, THAT EXPLAIN WHY IT TAKES THAT LONG FOR ALL OF US AS BENEFIT.
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LONG IS ONE.YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR ENGINEERS OUT THERE, ALL UNDER THE HOUSES TO INSPECTIONS, TO WRITE OUT THE SPECIFICATIONS ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO PROPERLY ELEVATE A HOUSE.
AND YOU PREPARE YOUR PIT PACKETS AND YOU BID THOSE OUT TO YOUR LARGE CONTRACTING COMPANIES THAT WILL DO THE ELEVATION.
TYPICALLY THAT'S A 14 TO 20 DAY PROCESS TO GET THERE, GET THEIR PROPOSALS, TO REVIEW THEM.
AND THEN WE BRING THEM TO THE BOARD, ALL THE ONES ON YOUR AGENDA FOR YOU TO APPROVE THEM AFTER THEY'RE APPROVED, THEY WOULD GO BACK AND GET THE CONTRACTS, ILLEGAL ASADA.
AND I STILL GET THE NOTION TO PROCEED.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT CROSS RIGHT THERE PROCESS, RIGHT? THERE'S A 90 DAY PROCESS.
OH, YOU TALKING ABOUT A HOUSE GOING TO GET JACKED UP NEXT.
SO YEAH, DEFINITELY BY SAYING, LOOK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME SOUND GO UP BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
YEAH, WE GOT ABOUT THREE MONTHS LEFT ON THAT ONE.
UH, ONE OTHER THING ABOUT THAT, UH, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO TAKE THAT LIST OF 65 HOUSES AND GET SOMEBODY IN THE CITY INSPECTION OR PUBLIC WORKS, BOWS, WHATEVER.
YOU JUST TAKE A COPY OF THAT LIST.
I'M SURE YOU GOT ONE AND HIGHLIGHT THE HOUSE.
IS IT ACTUALLY GOT WET? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 10 OF THOSE HOUSES? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HALF OF THOSE HOUSE FIVE AND HOUSES? HOW BIG IS THE PROBLEM? UH, I DON'T KNOW.
THE, UH, I GUESS THE PROBLEM IS WHEN WE TALKED TO, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE OUR DAMAGE ASSESSMENT FORMS THAT WE DID FOR DENNIS.
WE PROBABLY STILL HAVE ONE FOR BOND IN FRAN.
SO WE COULD GO BACK TO THOSE AND SEE WHICH HOUSES, UH, WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S A NUMERICAL WAY FOR THESE PEOPLE TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF POINTS FROM 1, 365.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER DAMAGE, NOT ONLY IS IT PROBABLY NOT POSSIBLE TO SAY 1, 365, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT NECESSARY.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF 10 HOUSES GOT WAY UP AND 10 OF THEM, YOU CAN CALL THEM NUMBER ONE OR ONE THROUGH 10, OR, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THESE MUST BE TAKEN CARE OF.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW BIG THIS, THIS PROBLEM IS LOGISTICALLY TO GET THESE PEOPLE UP OUT OF THE WAR IN CASE WE GET HIT.
BUT ANOTHER ONE MUST IT BE, YOU KNOW, A 30 OR 90 DAY PERIOD OR LESS DID NOT.
AND THEN THAT KIND OF STUFF CAN BE DONE RELATIVELY QUICK IN A WEEK OR SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT KIND OF INFORMATION TOGETHER.
THEN I WOULD BE AFRAID OF DRAWING AN ARBITRARY NUMBER OF THE TOP 10 OR TOP 15, 11, 12 TO 60%, THE ASPEN FIELD SLIDE.
SO, WELL, IF HE'S, IF HE GOT WHERE HE SHOULD, BUT IF HE DIDN'T, THEN HE'S GOT ANOTHER PROBLEM.
THEY BOTH GOT, WE'LL CALL THEM BY THE WAY.
IT'S LIKE I WAS ASKING YOU TODAY, TODAY.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE SAYING ALL THESE TECHNICAL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO PREPARE OURSELVES.
IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO EXPEDITE THAT ALL OF THIS CRAWLING UNDER THE HOUSE AND TAKING DOWN, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO HIRE SOMEONE ELSE? IS IT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO PUT A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND DO THE PAPERWORK THAT YOU THINK IS THAT THAT IS NECESSARY FOR IT TO EXPEDITE IT SO THAT WE WOULDN'T TAKE SO LONG JUST TO DO THE RED TAPE WHEN WE, WE WAITED SO LONG AND IT JUST SEEMS A BIT FRESH.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION.
I'M SURE YOU CAN DO, I GUESS THE PRIMARY THEN WITH THE CHANGE ORDER, YOUR CONTRACTOR AND SALSA, OUR ENGINEER, OR 80 A YEAR MORE.
SO THEY PUT MORE FORCES AT WORK TO WORK QUICKER.
WELL, I MEAN, THEY GET PAID ENOUGH AND NEGATIVES MAKE BETTER NEED ANOTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, IF THERE'S, IF MAYBE WHERE YOU GOT ONE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO DO SOMETHING, MAYBE TWO CAN MAKE IT QUICKER.
I THINK ONE THING WE CAN DO IS, UH, ENSURE THAT THE CONSULTANT IN THEIR CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP HAS A REALLY TIGHT TIMEFRAME AND HAS SOME PENALTIES FOR NOT COMPLETING THE WORK ON TIME.
KEEP IT, MIKE, DO WE HAVE A LIST OF THE STORMS AND THE HEIGHT TO WHICH THE WATER WENT AND A LIST OF THE FLOOR LEVELS OF THE SEVERAL PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, OF THE FOUR LEVELS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN HAVE ALL OF THOSE.
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THAT'S TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO GET A SURVEYOR TO SHOOT TO TELL YOU DON'T PUT THAT.BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS ON OUR ROOF DAMAGE ASSESSMENT REPORT, WE KNOW HOW MUCH WATER, NOT IN THE UNIT, SIX INCHES, THREE INCHES, A FOOT, THAT KIND OF THING.
THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO IT AND BE SURE IT'S ACCURATE, BUT JUST WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, YOU NEED TO FIND OUT THE LEVELS OF THE FLOORS AND THE HEIGHT OF THE WATER.
BUT THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF TIME AND WE CERTAINLY LOVE THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT WE'D ALSO LOVE TO LIVE ABOVE THE FLOOD.
AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO THE MEMBERS OF THE WOODROW COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW TO GET ABOVE THE FLOOD WATERS.
JUST RECENTLY WITH DENNIS, YOU DON'T IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE IN WATER, UP AGAIN INTO THEIR LIVING ROOMS AND WHATNOT.
AND WE JUST WANT TO GET UP ABOVE WATER BLANKET.
SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN SUBSIDED FOR US AS A MATTER OF FACT, I MEAN THIS RIGHT HERE IN THIS LETTER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, SIR, I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO BRING IT UP TO YOU.
THIS IS FROM RALEIGH ITSELF, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
THEY SAID, THEY'RE GOING TO RAISE THE HOUSES 13 FEET TO 13 FEET.
THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID RIGHT HERE.
AND I'LL BE GLAD TO BRING IT UP TO YOU.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO? I CAN GET A COPY OF THAT.
WE DON'T NEED TO GO ANY HIGHER WITH IT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE IN OUR ALL BEING EYES HAVE DETERMINED TO BE THE PROPER LEVEL.
WELL, THE POINT IS IT'S NOT 12 FEET OR 13 FEET AT THIS POINT, SO WE NEED TO GET IT UP.
SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS MAY BE ABLE TO BE ANSWERED IN AN UPCOMING MEETING.
WHAT I HAVE TO ASK THEM BECAUSE I WAS CHOSEN BY MY COMMUNITY.
DO THIS, UH, THE QUESTION HERE IS, IS THE MONEY FOR, JUST FOR WOODROW OR IS IT, OR ARE THERE OTHER COMMUNITIES INVOLVED IN THIS? UH, THERE IS PROPERTY, BUT IT IS NOT JUST FOR THE WARDROBE AREA IS FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE AFFECTED BY THE FLOODING AND THAT AFFECTED PRIMARILY THE WOODROW ROAD AREA.
AND IT'S MATTER OF FACT WITH DENNIS, UH, WE MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR SOME MONEY IN THE FUTURE, SOME PROPERTY FOR AREA.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU LATER ON.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT FOR ME, SIR.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THE MONEY RUNS OUT BEFORE THE RAISING PROJECT IS COMPLETED? AND WHAT IF AFTER SAY A YEAR AFTER CONSTRUCTION OR, OR THE MOVING OF THE HOUSES IS COMPLETED, THE HOUSE IS SETTLED AND SUSTAINED DAMAGE.
WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THE REPAIR.
TYPICALLY WHAT WE HAVE ON CONSTRUCTION FOR ONE YEAR WARRANTY, WHICH IS DISPARATE TECHNICAL INSTRUCTION.
AND THERE WAS A HYPOTHETICAL, THE YEAR WAS HYPOTHETICAL.
UH, BUT THAT'S THE STANDARD WARRANTY.
UH, AGAIN, A CONSTRUCTION TRADE.
AND WHAT WE DO IS, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE ELEVATION WILL BE DONE USING STANDARDS OF
BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT'S MADE OF LIFETIME WARRANTY THAT YOUR HOUSE IS LIFTED AND MAINSTAY INSPECTION.
AND AFTER A YEAR, I GUESS YOU ONLY OWN EXCELLENT.
UM, I WANT TO KEEP MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
SO, AND THEN IF THERE IS DAMAGE FOUND WHILE RACING THE HOUSE, WILL IT BE REPAIRED? IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEIR FLOOR JOISTS ARE FOUND TO BE DAMAGED OR WHATEVER, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WAS PART OF THAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THAT PROPERTY, OKAY.
WE'RE GETTING MONEY FROM THE DIVISION OF COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE TO ACTUALLY REPAIR THE SEALS AND JOYCE AND OTHER MORE.
WE HAVE SOME OF THIS PANEL AND THE ITEMS SIGN UP, UH, NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS AN APPLICATION TO HOPEFULLY GET US ALLOCATION.
UH, SHOULD THIS BE NEEDED FOR THE PAYER? THERE'S PROBABLY ENOUGH RIGHT NOW TO BASICALLY PREPARE FOR THE
THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL, UM, WORD THAT WE HAD HEARD WHEN MR. MAYO WAS IN CHARGE.
WE HAD HEARD THAT THE MORNING WAS ALL THERE AVAILABLE TO THE, TO 2.6, $2 MILLION OR WHATEVER
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WAS AVAILABLE TO RAISE THE HOUSES.AND IT WOULD TAKE CARE OF ALL THE NEEDS THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
THAT WAS CORRECT FOR WHAT GREG AND I, AND EVERYONE ELSE KNEW IT, UH, HMGP CAME BACK LATER AND REDEFINED WHAT THEY WOULD DO.
AND THEY SAID THEY WERE ONLY DO ELEVATIONS.
THAT'S WHEN WE TURN THE STATE FOR MONEY TO HELP WITH THE SEAL, THE JOYCE AND OTHER REPAIRS.
AND WE FEEL WE CAN HAVE PROBABLY HAVE ENOUGH, BUT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE IT ON SHORE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEKING THIS ADDITIONAL MONEY OR TRYING TO GET AN AIR HORN.
SO THE POINT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE THEM HAND, FIX THEM.
THAT'S WHY THE CITY IS TRYING TO DO ONE WORD.
UM, WELL, SINCE THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MONDAY THAT REALLY AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT IN TIME IS NO MORE IMPORTANT THAN THIS PIECE OF PAPER I'D HAVE TO FOR ME.
CAUSE WE DON'T HA WE DON'T SEE IT.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE WERE ASKING OR WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS THIS MONEY HAS BEEN ARAMARK FOR THESE REPAIRS.
IS IT IN A BANK? IS IT DRAWING INTEREST? IS IT IN A CITY ACCOUNT GOING INTO THIS? AND THEY HAVEN'T SENT US THE MONEY ON IT.
YOU GET THE MONEY IN RETROSPECT AND YOU PUT IN FOR IT AND THEY SEND YOU AFTER YOU'VE SENT THEM THE BILLS AND THE THING, NOT A STYLING.
WELL, IN THAT RESPECT, YES, THE MONEY IS IN THE BANK, BUT NOT MONEY.
HE ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY IN THE PAST.
UH, UH, HOW CAN I PUT IT, YOU KNOW, TO ASK QUESTIONS AND BE, AND BE CAUTIOUS AND WHATEVER.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I WAS EVER INVOLVED IN ANYTHING WHERE SOMEBODY WAS ACTUALLY TAKING THE MONEY AND SITTING ON IT AND LETTING PEOPLE BE ONTO THE WAR, I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT IT TOO.
I'LL BE DOWN HERE WITH MY PITFALL.
BUT, UH, I JUST CAN'T BE BLOWN AWAY BY ANYTHING LIKE THAT HISTORICALLY.
AND THAT'S THE WAY THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WORK AS THEY REIMBURSE YOU.
ONCE THEY SEE THAT YOU HAVE DONE WHAT YOU SAY YOU WERE GOING TO DO, BUT THEY WON'T GIVE YOU ANY MONEY UP FRONT, BUT LET ME ALSO DO SOMETHING.
IT JUST CAME TO MIND WHILE WE GO, SINCE THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND SO FORTH.
UH, I HAD THE QUOTE UNQUOTE SEWER REPORT PUT ON OUR AGENDA AUTOMATICALLY EVERY MONTH, TWO OR THREE YEARS BACK, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE RIVER AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
AND I SAID, WELL, HEY, WE'LL JUST HAVE THE CITY ENGINEER COME UP HERE EVERY MONTH AND TELL US HOW IT ALL STANDS.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT US TO, HEY, REALM AGENDA, RIGHT BEHIND THE CIVIL REPORT.
IT HAS TO BE NOT NAV ACCIDENTAL OR WHATEVER.
SO DID EVERY MONTH WE WILL BE APPRISED OF HOW THAT SITUATION IS GOING STARTED.
IT'LL KEEP NOT ONLY ON YOUR MIND, BUT OUR MIND AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S MIND IS THE WAY THE THING IS SITUATED SO THAT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALL DONE AND TAKEN CARE OF IT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, MR. MAYOR, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR THREE MONTHS, THE FORMAL THING, BUT IT WASN'T THE AGENDA EVERY SECOND, ONE SECOND, PLEASE.
BUT THEY BEEN GIVING US REPORTS ON IT AND WE'VE ASKED THEM, AND THEN THEY GIVE US REPORTS.
AND IT WAS LIKE, I TOLD ONE GENTLEMEN THAT CALLED ME, YOU KNOW, AND IT WASN'T UNTIL THEY STARTED CALLING WITH THEIR CONCERNS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT BECAME SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE MORE THINGS AND I'LL BE OUT OF YOUR HAIR.
UM, THIS IS DIRECTLY FROM MR. CITY MANAGER.
UM, IT'S COME UP IN OUR COMMUNITY MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT.
UH, WE WANTED TO KNOW, DOES THE CITY HAVE SOME ORGANIZATION TO HELP FLOOD VICTIMS TO CLEAN UP AFTER THE HURRICANES HAVE COME AND GONE? OR DOES THE CITY HAVE A PLAN OF DISASTER PREPAREDNESS PLAN FOR SITUATIONS SUCH AS WE'RE ABOUT TO, UH, BE AFFECTED BY IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS? WELL, WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE A CLEANUP PROGRAM.
DON'T CLEAN UP INDIVIDUAL YARDS OR THAT KIND OF THING, BUT WE, IF YOU GET IT OUT TO THE STREET, WE GENERALLY TAKE IT OFF TASK.
IF YOU REMEMBER IN FRAN AND IN BERTHA, UH, CITY CREWS CAME BY AND THEY PICK IT UP.
IT'S NOT A CITY CREW, IT'D BE A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR.
THOSE ARE ALL PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.
THIS, UM, THIS, THIS QUESTION HERE, CAN THE NEWBURN POLICE DEPARTMENT DO SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, I'LL REFER TO THEM AS GAWKERS, UM, DRIVING THROUGH OUR NAME, OUR PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER OR DURING A FLOOD, BECAUSE RECENTLY DURING DENNIS WHERE PEOPLE, WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS WERE NOT CITY VEHICLES OR NATIONAL GUARD VEHICLES DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SPLASHING IS STANDING WATER UP THROUGH, THROUGH DOORWAYS AND, YOU KNOW, CREATING WAKES, WHICH FURTHER ENHANCED THE DAMAGES
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TO THE HOME.ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN, IF IT'S BAD ENOUGH, WE CAN RESTRICT MOVEMENT TO THE AREA.
BUT A LOT OF THE TRAVELING BACK AND FORTH THAT YOU HAD IN WOODROW AT THAT TIME WAS DONE BY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN WOODRUFF AND THEN MADE THIS MAY BE SO, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SET UP MANY PEOPLE BEFORE ME, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH ME AND SEASONING.
AND THEY EACH HAD A LITTLE AREA THAT THEY WATCH, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY WATCH PROGRAM AND ALL THAT.
AND SOME OF THEM, THEY, THEY KNOW PRETTY MUCH WHAT, WHO COMES AND WHO GOES THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHO SHOULD BE THERE AND WHO SHOULD NATURALLY, I CAN'T EXPECT TO SEE A NEWBURGH POLICE DEPARTMENT TO SAY, I MEAN, I DEMAND TO SEE YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE WITH YOUR ADDRESS ON THERE.
SO I CAN LET YOU GO INTO THE AREA OR NOT.
THE MORE TRACKS THAT WE CAN, UM, LIMIT TO THE AREA, THE LESS DAMAGE THAT WILL HAPPEN IN AND OF ITSELF WILL GO AWAY, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD TO GET IT SPLASHED OVER.
AND IF THE WATER GETS UP TO THE LEVELS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE, THEN WE CAN AND WILL RESTRICT SOME OF THE MOVEMENT IN THE AREA.
BUT AGAIN, AS SOON AS THE WATER GETS DOWN TO A MANAGEABLE LEVEL, THEN THE STREETS HAVE TO BE BACK OPEN BECAUSE THEY'RE ON PUBLIC STREETS BECAUSE SHE HAD, AND, UH, HERE'S THE LAST THING IS ABOUT PESKY LITTLE THINGS OUT THERE CALLED MOSQUITOES.
I KNOW THERE'S A TERRIBLE PROBLEM WITH THEM HERE IN, IN, YOU KNOW, THE EASTERN PART OF NORTH CAROLINA, BUT YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS OF WOODROW AND PROBABLY SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS AROUND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE, THEY'D LIKE TO KNOW IF WE COULD GET SOME SPRINGS, THERE WAS SPRAYING PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY, UH, TONIGHT, BUT IT'S BEEN CANCELED BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROBLEM COMING THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED SOME SORT OF FRAMEWORK.
AND, UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE, OF THE BOARD, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME HERE TONIGHT, THE MEMBERS OF MY COMMUNITY FOR PICKING ME TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE AND SPOKESMAN FOR THAT.
AND, UM, I'D LIKE, I LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK AND TALK TO YOU ONCE MORE.
AND BY THE WAY, I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT TRAFFIC COMING BY.
IT COMES BY MY HOUSE AND THROWS THE TIME AWAY.
YOU'VE ALSO, AND I DON'T REALLY, I THINK ABOUT THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS THAT IS TO JUST WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW ON CHANNEL 10 WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST LIKE TO GO OUT AND LOOK, IN FACT, I HAD SOME PEOPLE GET MAD AT ME WHEN WE HAD TO DECLARE IT A STATE OF EMERGENCY, YOU KNOW, AND THE CURFEW ACTUALLY CALLED ME UP AND BLOW ME OUT.
AND THAT WAS NOT AMERICAN, EVERYTHING ELSE.
I THOUGHT THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GO DOWN IN THE AREAS WHERE ALL THE TREES WERE BLIND AND OVER AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE'S MISERY WAS MORE OR LESS.
AND I JUST REALLY DON'T WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT INSIST ON LIKE GOING TO SEE THE WRECK, YOU KNOW? WELL, YOUR HONOR,
OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
MIKE HAS ONE THING THAT NEEDS TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD REGARDING THIS, WHICH WILL HELP TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS IS MY, WHERE IS MY MIKE? THE MAGIC SAID YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO BRING UP THAT MIGHT HELP SPEED THE PROCESS.
W WOULD YOU STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE, SIR, WE NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS JOHN W GASKINS AND I OWN THE PROPERTY OVER 2,706 ALABAMA, UH, WHICH IS IN THE WOODROW AREA.
IT GETS FLOODED OUT EVERY TIME WE HAVE ANY RAIN OR HIGH TIDES OR WHATEVER.
AND ESPECIALLY DURING THE HURRICANES, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE.
IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO SAY THIS, BUT I LIVE AT THE END OF THE BLOCK.
THE OTHER END OF THE BLOCK IS ONLY TWO HOUSES ON THE BLOCK.
THE CITY AUTHORIZED MY NEIGHBORS TO PUT IN A SWIMMING POOL.
HEAVEN FORBID IT'S GOT TO BE FLOODED OUT.
EVERY TIME WATER COMES UP THAT HIGH, NOT ONLY THAT THEY RAISED THE SWIMMING POOL UP, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT WATER? IT COMES BACK TO MY PROPERTY.
THE NEXT THING HAPPENS IN BACK OF MY PLACE WHERE I THINK IT'S CALLED SMITH CREEK.
THEY ALLOWED THE OWNER THERE TO GO DOWN AND BULLDOZE THE LAND BACK TOWARDS THAT CREEK, BUILDING A DYKE UP WITH THE BRUSH AND THE DIRT AND SO ON.
WHAT DID THAT DO TO THE WATER? IT COMES ON MY PROPERTY.
WHO COULD HAVE THOUGHT OF DOING THIS? DID THEY GET ENGINEERS OUT THERE OR DID SOMEBODY SAY, YEAH, HERE'S BUILDING PERMIT.
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS CAN HAPPEN.
I'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION THAT I LIVE IN.
I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN CALIFORNIA UP UNTIL THE LAST
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YEAR.I'D NEVER SEEN THIS LIST OF PROPERTIES.
I'VE TALKED TO MR. GREG MAYO AND THEN GIVE HIM THE ROYAL RUN AROUND AND MORE LIVES.
AND, UH, CARTER'S GOT LIVER PILLS.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY OF THIS STUFF THAT, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT.
AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS THROUGH THE LOCAL PAPER AND SO ON, BUT ALL OF THE STUFF HERE, LIKE THE 12 AND 13 FOOT HIGH I WAS TOLD IS GO RAISE HIM UP 10 FEET HIGH.
THE MONEY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THIS THING I WAS TOLD IN JUNE THAT THINGS WOULD START HAPPENING ENGINEERS.
AND SO ON THE 1ST OF AUGUST, I WOULD BE NOTIFIED NATIONALLY.
WE'VE BEEN NOTIFIED AND I HAVE EVIDENTLY YOU HAVE AN EAR.
SO THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT I HAVE IN THAT AREA.
I'VE BEEN PAYING TAXES IN THE NEWBURN AREA, SEEMS LIKE ME FOR A THOUSAND YEARS, BUT WHAT ARE WE RECEIVING FOR OUR TAX MONEY IN THE WOODROW AREA? I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
I'VE SEEN NO IMPROVEMENTS AT ALL DONE IN THE WOODEN WOODROW AREA, UH, TO SAY, AM I RIGHT, IS A SMALL WORD.
UM, I'M NOT TRYING TO LAY THE BLAME ON NEW PEOPLE.
OKAY? I'M NOT TRYING TO BLAME ANYBODY, BUT SOMEONE HAS TO BE THE PLAIN AND THE SHORT HECK, ISN'T ME.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO AUTHORIZES THESE THINGS.
THAT'S GONNA MAKE ALL THE WATER COME BACK ONTO MY PROPERTY.
AND I'VE GOTTEN ON THE LOWEST PLACES THERE.
AND EVERY TIME WE TURN AROUND, WE'VE GOT THESE PEOPLE WOULD KNOW WHEN THEY GET FLOODED OUT, THEY DON'T JUST GET WATER IN THERE.
YOU GOT SUCH THINGS AS SNAKES IN THERE, AND THEY'RE DANGEROUS TOO.
AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH MORE OF YOUR TIME.
I HAD A WHOLE LIST OF THIS STUFF, BUT HE BROUGHT MOST OF IT.
AND I ALREADY ASKED HIM FOR A COPY OF THESE HOUSES.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHETHER I'M ON THAT LIST OF HOUSES OR NOT.
UM, WHAT WAS YOUR,
I GET FLOODED OUT EVERY TIME MR. MAYOR TOLD ME, YOU BROUGHT UP AN INTERESTING POINT.
HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GO ABOUT ESTABLISHING THE PRIORITIES TO BE REPAIRED? I HAVE NEVER MET THE GENTLEMAN, BUT I'VE TALKED TO HIM MANY TIMES ON THE TELEPHONE.
AND IF THIS MAKES SENSE, THEY TOLD ME THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE THE HIGHEST COSTS PROPERTIES AND DO THOSE FIRST.
NOW, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, JUST LIKE I ASKED HIM, HE COULD NOT GIVE ME AN ANSWER ON.
I SAYS, IT SEEMS LIKE THE MAIN THAT YOU WOULD TAKE THE WORST HOUSES THAT ARE IN A FLOOD CONTROL ARE THE, THAT ARE GETTING FLOODED EVERY TIME AND GO TO THOSE FIRST.
THOSE ARE DOWN IN THE SEVEN FOOT HIGH DISTRICT.
THEY'RE GOING TO GET FLOODED OUT IN THAT AREA.
I GUARANTEE YOU WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THE PRIORITIES ARE WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
HE HAD LAST HALF HOUR OR SO, BUT ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M GETTING READY TO GO BACK TO, TO HAVE AN OPERATION.
AND WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO BE RECEIVING ONE BETTER INFORMATION ON THIS, EVEN THOUGH EVERYBODY THAT I'VE TALKED TO IN THE CITY GOVERNMENT HAS PROMISED ME, THEY'D NOTIFY ME.
AND I HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER YET FROM ANYWAY.
SORRY TO TAKE YOUR TIME, BUT I THANK YOU.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? NOT ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION, BUT JUST, THIS IS THE PART IN THE AGENDA.
THAT'S CALLED A REQUEST AND PETITION OF CITIZENS.
IT'S JUST THINGS IN GENERAL THAT THEY CAME UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY OKAY.
THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP THE NIGHT ALREADY, SO BUT Y'ALL HAVE TO Y'ALL, Y'ALL HAVE TO TAKE THE PRIVATE, PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS OUT ON THE STREET.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA.
NO, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY ELSE.
Y'ALL HAVE TO TAKE THAT OUTSIDE AND DISCUSS IT.
ANYBODY ELSE WITH THE REQUEST AND THE ADDITION OF CITIZENS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE APPLICATION.
BUT 1990 TIME STATE DRI FUNDS.
NOW I ASKED THE OFFICIAL PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU WANT TO RUN ACROSS WHAT THAT IS, RIGHT.
UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE FUNDS IS, UH, TO
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BASICALLY ENSURE THAT, UH, WE HAVE EARMARKED FORCE ON DIGITAL FUNDS, UH, TARGETED TOWARD THE REPAIRS TO 39 UNITS.WE HAVE FUNDING CURRENTLY TO DO REHABILITATION WORK ON 20 UNITS.
UH, OUR THOUGHTS ARE THAT, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY ENOUGH.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO 25,000 ALL UNITS.
HOWEVER, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT ALL WE'LL GET INTO AS WE GET IN THERE.
AND SO WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE DIVISION COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE ABOUT TRYING TO LOCATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
SHOULD WE NEED THEM? AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR RIGHT HERE IS, UH, $600,000 FOR THE REMAINING, UH, 39 UNITS.
UH, WE'RE FLICKING GET STATE APPROVAL ON THAT.
AND WE JUST FEEL THAT MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE, UH, THAT, THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN ADEQUATE FUNDS TO COMPLETE THE REHABILITATION OF THOSE STRUCTURES THAT ARE BEING ELEVATED BEFORE.
THAT WAS THE MONEY YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
UH, 39 UNITS PLUS THE 20 THAT'S ALREADY BEEN FUNDED.
SO FOR ELEVATING THE 59, WANT TO MAKE THE REPAIRS NECESSARY? 59 AND THEN THE OTHER SIX ARE ACQUISITION RELOCATION.
SO WHAT WOULD NEED TO DO ADAPTIVE, UH, GET THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN TAKE ACTION SO WE CAN GET, IS THERE ANYBODY? I THINK EVERYBODY PROBABLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT AT THIS POINT, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENT ON IT OR CAN WE JUST ASSUME THAT WE'RE ALL KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE? ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
WE, UH, SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.
NEXT THING IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WELL, BEFORE YOU GO TO THE GENDER, BUT WHY HE'S GIVING YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT IS PROPOSED FOR WHAT YO, IF HE COULD GIVE US AN OVERVIEW FOR PAY COUNTY, WHICH THE OTHER PART OF THAT, UM, MITIGATION PROJECT? UM, YES.
UM, THE TOWN IS AN ACQUISITION AND RELOCATION PROJECT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE ACQUIRING, I BELIEVE IT'S 26, 27 UNITS.
UH, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE RELOCATING 17 FAMILIES.
WE HAVE GOTTEN THE TITLE WORK, UH, FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.
UM, WE HAVE GOTTEN THE APPRAISAL AND REVIEW APPRAISAL INFORMATION AND WE HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE OVER HALF OF THE SURVEYS.
UM, UH, THE SURVEYS HAVE BEEN A REAL DELIGHT FOR US.
UH, THE SURVEYING COMPANY HAS RAN INTO MANY PROBLEMS WITH, UM, RIGHT AWAY AND PROPERTY LINES, NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND PENS AND CITY, CITY MAPS AND PROPERTY PENS, NOT AGREEING, AND IT'S COST US SOME TIME, BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, AND IT'S A MISCELLANEOUS ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, MOVE ALONG TO ESTABLISH AND ADJUST COMPENSATION ON THE PROPERTIES SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME OFFERS OUT, UH, BY THE END OF THE MONTH, ALL THE, UH, UH, PROPERTIES IN PAVEY TOWN.
IN ADDITION, UM, THE CONSULTANT, UH, HAS BEEN OUT IN THE AREA, UH, AND HAS MAIL LETTERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS IN PAVEY TOWN SEEKING SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT IS NECESSARY RELOCATION OF FAMILIES.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS WE'RE DOING.
AND PART I WOULD SAY IS FOR THE FAMILIES IN PAVING TOWN THAT RECEIVED A LETTER REQUESTING INFORMATION FROM THE CONSULTANT, UH, PLEASE, UH, GET THAT INFORMATION BACK IN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THAT'LL JUST HELP MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, UH, THERE'S A NUMBER ON THE LETTER TO CALL, OR YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL THE PLANNING OFFICE AT SIX THREE SIX FOUR ZERO ZERO TWO.
AND WE'D BE GLAD TO TALK TO THE PERSONS ABOUT I GO AHEAD AND BRING UP SINCE YOU GOT THAT UNDER MISCELLANEOUS.
I WANT YOU TO JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
UM, IF, UH, IF I MAY, UM, IN PURCHASING
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THE PROPERTIES, UH, WE MUST ESTABLISH WHAT'S CALLED ADJUST COMPENSATION FOR THE PROPERTIES WE'RE PURCHASING.THESE ARE VOLUNTARY ACQUISITIONS.
WE WILL NOT BE USING EMMA DOMAIN AT ANY POINT TO ACQUIRE, OR IF A PERSON DECIDES THEY DO NOT WANT TO SALE, THEN WE WALK AWAY AND GO ELSEWHERE WITH IT.
UH, A PART OF THIS, UH, THE JUST COMPENSATION IS BASED ON THE APPRAISAL AND THE REVIEW OF PRICE OF THE PROPERTY.
THE TWO APPRAISERS GET THEIR HEADS TOGETHER AS FAR AS PROCEDURE AND VALUE AND SO FORTH AND, AND RECOMMEND A NUMBER THAT'S JUST COMPENSATION THAT JUST CONDENSATION CAN BE SINCE IT IS NOT A UNIFORM ACT.
ACQUISITION DOES NOT INVOLVE IN A DOMAIN.
THAT NUMBER CAN BE SET BY STAFF OR BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN.
WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO HELP US EXPEDITE IT, GIVE US A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND JUMP ON.
IT IS IF THE BOARD WILL AUTHORIZE STAFF TO ESTABLISH STRESS COMPENSATION BASED ON THE APPRAISALS.
UH, THEN LIKE I SAID, THAT WOULD SAVE US A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND ALLOW US TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE OFFERS OUT.
SO MOVE THEM ON ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT ONLY THE VIRUS.
NOW THE GET SOME AGENDA, I MOVE IT UP.
IT'S CONSIDERED THEM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, NO, SIR.
NO APPOINTMENTS MISCELLANEOUS.
UH, ITEM IS TALKING ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF THE BEAR FROM THE STORE ACROSS THE STREET AND THE RETURN.
IT WAS NOTED IN TODAY'S NEWSPAPER.
I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THAT WAS RETURNED AND I'M GLAD THAT INDIVIDUAL DID IT VOLUNTARILY.
NOW THERE HAS BEEN OTHER ACTUAL VANDALISM AROUND TOWN THAT HAD NOT BEEN, UH, NO ONE HAS COME AND REPORTED THAT THEY HAD DONE IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE GRAFFITI THAT WAS WRITTEN ON THE TRENT WOODS WATERTOWN.
NOW THAT WATER TOWER HAPPENS TO BELONG TO THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
SO IT'S THE FACING THE PROPERTY, THE CITY OF NEWBURN.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ON THE INDIVIDUAL TO COME IN AND FESS UP.
THE OTHER ONE THAT WE KNOW ABOUT WAS THE GUY TURNED HIMSELF IN OR, WELL, I THINK CRIME STOPPERS ANYWAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT HE CALLS US OR CALLS CRIMESTOPPERS AT 6 3 3 5 1 41, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ONE PERSON THAT DID IT.
THERE WAS NO WAY THAT ONE PERSON COULD GET OVER THAT FENCE AND UP TO THE TOP OF THAT TOWER AND DO THAT, UH, VAN JAVA VANDALIST.
SO WHOEVER WAS, OR WHOEVER WAS WITH HIM, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR, UH, REPORT AND WE WILL TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
I THINK JEWS NOT TO MAKE A CONFESSION YET.
I SPLIT IT INTO TWO VANDALISM AND THAT CERTAINLY THE INDIVIDUAL COULD HAVE FALLEN OFF THAT TOWER AND WENT A WHOLE LOT MORE SERIOUS THAN JUST PLAYING VANDALISM, BUT LET'S, UH, COME IN AND FESS UP A REPORT ON WHOEVER'S IT.
DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE? OH, I'D JUST LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO THE BOARD FOR MY RECENT ABSENCES.
I HAVEN'T HAD A CASE OF PNEUMONIA AND IT HAS REALLY LAID ME LOW.
IT'S FUNNY, FUNNY HOW AGE PORT MAKE THESE THINGS MORE SEVERE, BUT IT'S, UM, IT'S PRETTY MUCH GONE NOW.
SO I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE.
I'LL ADMIT MY FAMILY ISN'T IN EXCHANGE FOR A PLEA DISMISS THE CASE AGAINST ME AND PROSECUTE.
JULIUS, I GUESS, COMES TO SAY RAIN OR ALL OF THEM AND THAT WAS A CLUE.
Y'ALL SAID MIKE'S REPORT WAS ON EVERY MONTH.
I KNOW HE'S BEEN COMING UP MENTIONING THAT, BUT WHAT WAS IT OFFICIALLY CALLED? I STILL DON'T RECALL
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IT BEING MITIGATION.UH, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, BRIEF THE BOARD, UM, UH, PREPARATIONS WE'RE DOING FOR FLOYD, OF COURSE.
UH, NOW THAT WE'RE THROUGH WITH DENNIS AND WE GOT FLOYD COMING ON, FLOYD'S NOT EXPECTED AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO MAKE LANDFALL IN A POSITION WHERE WE'LL GET CATASTROPHIC WINDS HERE, BUT IT IS SUPPOSED TO GO INTO THE RALEIGH AREA.
I THINK WE'RE EXPECTING ABOUT 65 MILE AN HOUR WINDS HERE ON ITS CURRENT TRACK.
IF IT BUMPS OVER TO THE EAST ANY THEN OF COURSE, UH, WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUMP VERY FAR BEFORE IT WOULD COME UP THE WAY FRANK CAME UP, SAME PLACE.
AND, UH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A VERY DISTINCT POSSIBILITY.
ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STAFF MEETING TOMORROW MORNING, NINE 30 WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED AND GO OVER THIS, UH, UH, OUR PREPAREDNESS FOR THE STORM, MUCH THE SAME AS WE HAVE ALL THE WAY, UH, FOR THE LAST STORMS THAT WE'VE HAD AND EVERYTHING.
AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, JUST GIVE US A CALL AND WE'LL TRY AND HELP.
SOMETIMES WE MIGHT GET A LITTLE WRAPPED UP WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, WE'VE CALLED IN SIX HOURS OUT OF STATE CREWS ALREADY FOR ELECTRIC SERVICES TO HAVE THEM AVAILABLE THERE.
WELL, THEY'RE ALREADY ON THEIR WAY.
THERE PROBABLY WILL BE ABOUT 15 OTHER CREWS, UH, BOTH TREE CUTTING TREE CREWS AND, UH, UH, ELECTRIC SERVICE CREWS THAT WILL BE COMING IN.
IF IT LOOKS LIKE THE STORM IS STILL DOING WHAT IT'S DOING TOMORROW, THEY'LL COME PROBABLY, UH, SPEND THE NIGHT ON THE WAY AND THEN GET HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY ON THURSDAY OR SOMETIME THEREABOUT.
SO THAT RIGHT AFTER THE STORM, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, GET OUT AND ASSIST OUR CREWS.
AND, UH, WE HAVE OTHER CONTRACT CREWS STANDING BY, FOR CLEAN UP, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION.
UH, WE'LL MAN, A SHELTER FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES DURING THE STORM.
AND THEN, UH, OUR CITY EMPLOYEES WILL PROBABLY BE BROUGHT IN FOR THE DURATION OF THE STORM, UH, TO WORK, UH, DURING THAT TIME, BASICALLY ALMOST AROUND THE CLOCK, UH, AFTER THE STORM IS OVER MR. AVERY AND HIS STAFF ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, GETTING TOGETHER THE, UH, DAMAGE ASSESSMENTS SO THAT WE CAN GET GOOD FIGURES UP TO THE STATE AND TO GET A DECLARATION FROM THE STATE SO THAT WE CAN GET REIMBURSED FOR THE, UH, ACTIVITIES.
UH, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS MANY TIMES, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT, UH, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO AS MUCH AS ANYONE COULD DO THIS STORM IS A MAJOR STORM.
UH, IF, IF IT COMES IN THE WAY FRAN CAME IN, THEN OUR LIGHTS WILL NOT BE BACK ON IN 72 HOURS.
IT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO GET EVERYTHING STRAIGHTENED OUT, BUT, UH, WE WILL DO IT JUST AS RAPIDLY AS WE CAN.
AND HOPEFULLY IT'LL JUST TAKE THE COURSE.
THAT IS OF LEAST I DON'T WANT, I DON'T LIKE TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR IT TO GO SOME OTHER WAY, BUT I WOULD PREFER THAT TO HAVING TO DO IT OURSELVES, BUT I DON'T WISH THAT ON ANYONE LIKE FOR IT TO TURN OUT, TO SEE, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT IT DOES, AND I HOPE THAT WE'RE IN AN AREA THAT'S NOT TOO BADLY DAMAGED TO NOT ASSURE THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS AND YOU A SPEEDY RECOVERY AND WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN.
SO, AND YOU ANTICIPATE ANY EVACUATIONS, BUT IT'S, IT'S IN IF THE STORM IS COMING IN.
UH, I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME EVACUATIONS CONSIDERED PROBABLY, UH, IF THIS BASED, EVEN ON THE 60 MILE AN HOUR WINDS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, MAYBE IN SOME OF THE LOW LYING AREAS OF DRUG, THEY REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER THAT, UH, UH, MAYBE SOME, EVEN IN OLD TOWN MIGHT HAVE, SOME AREAS COULD BE, COULD BE DOWN RIGHT ON THE END, DOWN THERE, WE'RE NEAR OUT WHERE OUR WARD LIFTS THAT AREA.
BUT WE'RE ALSO PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE ANY EVACUATIONS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED IN THE, UH, DUFFIELD AREA BASED ON THE MAGNITUDE OF THE DENNIS STORM IS WHAT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? I THINK, BUT IF IT WERE TO COME IN LIKE FRAN, THEN WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED EVACUATIONS OFF OF FRONT STREET, PROBABLY AND OLD TOWN AND RIVERSIDE AND WOODRUFF AND DUFFY FIELD, A LARGE, LARGE PART OF THE DUFF FIELD AREA.
SO IT WILL BE IMPORTANT THAT THOSE PEOPLE LISTEN TO THE ADVISORIES AND WHEN THEY HEAR SOMETHING THAT THEY GET OUT AND, UH, WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO ISOLATE THE AREAS.
IF WE HAVE TO, TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM GOING IN SO THEY CAN LEAVE THEIR HOUSES AND KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET PEOPLE JUST RUN BACK AND FORTH AND GET IN THEIR HOUSES TO DO ANYTHING, WE WILL, WE WILL BE TRYING TO GUARD THE WAY HE WANTS THE STORM IS THROUGH.
BUT IF THEY'RE TOLD THAT THEY NEED TO GET OUT, THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF STORM THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE.
A LOT OF CHANCES WITH THIS IS THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS
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STORM THAT WE HAVE ON OUR HANDS HERE.AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE, UH, IN THOSE SMALLER PART OF IT.
AND, BUT IF IT TURNS OUT DIFFERENTLY THAN PEOPLE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO MOVE WELL, WHEN YOU WERE PLANNING YOUR APPROACH AND WE CALL IT IN THE STAFF TO HELP YOU WITH THINGS, I LIKE TO VOLUNTEER JULIUS AND ROBERT SO THAT THEY CAN HELP ME.
UH, WE HAVE A PERFECT JOB FOR THEM.
IF THEY WOULD JUST COME BY, I THINK WE CAN WORK SOMETHING CAN ANSWER THE PHONE.
WE'LL VOLUNTEER ADVANCED NOTICE OF WOMEN'S SHELTER AT HJ.
UH, I'M NOT SURE WHEN THOSE SHELTERS ARE PLANNED, RIGHT.
I THINK AFTER THE SCHOOL DAY TOMORROW RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, IT MAY BE EARLIER IF THE STORM LOOKS LIKE IT'S MOVED FAST, DANNY, WE JUST WENT TO A MEETING AT SIX ON IT.
SO
I HAD ONE EARLIER, I GUESS WE GIVE THESE DISASTERS.
DENNIS DID NOT ALL THAT MUCH, BUT WE DIDN'T GET A DEPTH OF WRITING WHERE WE CAN BE REFUNDED SOME OF OUR OFFICES.
AND IN EACH EVENT, A BOARD HAS TO DESIGNATE AN AGENT THAT RECOMMENDS THE CITY AND DEALING WITH FEMA.
I HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT OVER YEARS JUST TO GET STATE ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ROLL CALL.
MR. WARD SAYS CO-ENROLLED PLEASE.
MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
WELL, LET ME MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
JUST REMEMBER, NEXT TIME WE MEET.