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IT'S ALL AMAZING DAUGHTER.

AND WE'LL OPEN WITH A PRAYER BY RABBI ROBERT JOHNSON OF EBENEEZER PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH.

TELL ME ABOUT WHAT HE IS, THE SPIRIT OF THE LIVING.

GOD, WE PAUSE THIS VERY MOMENT TO ASK THE SPIRIT, TO GUIDE US IN TO THIS MEETING.

WE COME TO GOD BEFORE YOU REALIZE THAT YOU, THE OFTEN THE FINISH ABOUT FAITH, REALIZING THAT WITHOUT YOU, WE CAN DO ANYTHING, BUT WE A FEW, WE CAN DO ALL THINGS.

WE COME TO GOD AS CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY TO LAY ON THE TABLE, OUR CONCERNS AND OUR KNEES AND ALL GOD, WE PRAY THAT AS OUR LEADERS PREPARE THEIR HEARTS TO LISTEN TO US TONIGHT, GRANT THEM THE WISDOM, LISTEN, EAR COMPASSION AND SENSITIVITY THAT GOD NOT TO MAKE DECISION TO OUR WARRANTS, BUT TO OUR KNEES, TO THE WEB AND THE WELLBEING OF THIS, OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH WE ALL LOVE IN JESUS NAME.

WE PRAY.

AMEN.

HEY MAN, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.

OKAY.

FIRST THING WE HAVE TONIGHT IS OUR MONTHLY REQUEST AND PETITION CITIZENS.

AND THIS IS WHERE SOMEBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORTH AND, UH, EXPOUND UPON, UH, WHAT I WOULD HAVE PROBLEM MAY BE REAL OR PERCEIVED.

SO, UH, WE SAW IT ON THE FIRST, BRO.

DOES ANYBODY HERE UNDER THAT CATEGORY? THERE HE IS.

OKAY.

HEY, BILL SAYS THAT'S UNDER MISCELLANEOUS SO THAT THAT'LL COME UP LATER.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THE FRONT ROW? SECOND ROW.

THIRD WORD.

OKAY.

YOU COME FORTH AND TELL US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

MY NAME IS MERRICK AND MY ADDRESS IS 1982, ADAM, PLEASE.

YEAH, YOU NEED TO PULL IT CLOSER TO YOUR FACE.

WE CAN'T REALLY, MY NAME IS MARY AND UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1902 TRYON ROAD.

AND THIS IS A PETITION THAT I HAVE GOT ABOUT THE 17, YOU KNOW, US 17 ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

AND THIS IS JUST A PETITION SAYING THAT WE WOULD LIKE SOMETHING FOR THE SOUND BARRIERS.

WE HAVE THREE PROBLEMS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY VALUE IS GOING TO GO DOWN IN OUR AREA AND WE HAVEN'T THEN THE SOUND AND ALSO THE CHILDREN CROSSING TO GO TO GO RECEIVE FIELDS.

AT THIS MOMENT, THE CHILDREN CROSS FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC, OR THEY GO INTO A DITCH TO GET TO SCORE THE WALKERS.

AND TO ME, THIS IS A REALLY BIG PROBLEM AND WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

YES, 17.

THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE WIDENING THE STREET, MAKING A SIX LANE IN FRONT OF GROCERY FIELDS.

I MENTIONED IT TO YOU GUYS, AND THIS IS THE YOUNG LADY THAT HAD A FRIENDS WITH ON TELEPHONE.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO SHE WAS AND HER CONCERN TONIGHT IS THAT I'M OKAY.

EVEN THOUGH SHE'S AWARE

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THAT IT'S A STATE PROJECT AND THE STATE, UH, IS EXPANDING THE HIGHWAY, THEN CITIZENS IN THE AREA CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN AS THEY CROSS THOSE SIX LANES GOING OVER TO GROVER SEAFIELD SCHOOL.

AND ALSO ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE, UH, TAKEN DOWN SOME OF THE TREES THAT WERE SORT OF A BUFFER TO THE, THEIR BACK YARDS.

AND THEY FEEL THAT, UH, I TELL THEM HER, OF COURSE, THAT THE CITY OF NEW BERN DID NOT HAVE A PROJECT GOING ON, BUT WE OF COURSE WERE SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE OVER THERE.

AND WHAT WE'RE NEEDING TONIGHT IS, UM, SOME SUPPORT FROM THE BOARD OF ALL OF IT.

AS WE, AS WE LOOK INTO WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT ASSISTING THE CHILDREN ACROSS THE STREET.

NOW SHE HAS, UH, TALKED WITH SOMEONE FROM THE BOARD OF EDUCATION ALREADY AND THEY HAVE COME OUT AND TALK WITH HER.

SO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION IS ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM, OR THEY HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THAT.

AND, UM, SO WE TALKED ABOUT SOME SOLUTIONS AND I THINK THAT THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING AND IF I'M WRONG, NOW YOU CAN CORRECT ME.

OKAY.

SHE TOLD ME SHE NEVER SPOKE IN PUBLIC LIKE THIS A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS, BUT, UM, I THINK WHAT THEY'RE ASKING IS THAT THE BOARD OF ALL OF IT, A NEWER BOARD OF ALDERMAN WOULD, UH, ASSIST THEM IN SUPPORT TO GET THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OR WHOEVER TO HELP THEM WITH SCHOOL CROSSINGS OR, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR HOW THE CHILDREN CAN SAFELY GO ACROSS THE STREET THERE.

AND ALSO THEY WOULD HAVE RECOMMEND SOME KIND OF BUFFER WHERE THE YARDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS CAN BE SORT OF LIKE BLOCKED OFF FROM THIS OPEN HIGHWAY THAT IS REALLY NEW TO THE, TO THE AREA.

WELL, DANNY, UH, WOULD THAT BE UNDER YOUR BAILEY WORK TO TRY TO CALL A MEETING PERHAPS WITH SOME OF THE STATE PEOPLE AND SO FORTH AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT SOME CITIZEN CONCERNS.

A LOT OF THIS, A LOT OF THE CITIZENS THAT I TALKED TO WERE UNAWARE THAT THIS WAS EVEN HAPPENING.

A LOT OF THEM THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE JUST REPAIRING THE STREETS.

UM, A LOT, MOST OF THE PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW THE CHILDREN WERE GETTING ACROSS THE HIGHWAY AND ALL WE WANT BACK IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE TREES ARE GOING, WE'RE ALL OPEN TO THIS.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO START DOWN BY GOLDEN CORRAL.

IT'S NOT, IT'S STARTING AT TACO BELL AND THERE'S A LOT OVER 300 RESIDENTS ARE INVOLVED AND WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BACK.

AND WE WANT TO KNOW THAT WHEN OUR CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOL, THEY HAVE A SAFE WAY TO GET THERE.

THIS IS DANNY METALS STANDING BEHIND YOU, UH, DOP, AND YOU KNOW, THE BOARD MOST MEET, UH, THE ISSUE IS THE PROJECT AND YOU KNOW, ANYTHING IS DONE.

I KNOW THEY HAVE ALREADY MET ME IN THE, NOT CLEAR IN THE TRADITIONAL AND THEY SAID, DON'T MOVE ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE MOVING.

AND IT WON'T BE HOW ABOUT SETTING UP MAINTENANCE, IF YOU WILL LIVE WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE DMT, AND YOU'D BE IN THE TENANTS, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR REPRESENTATION, THEN, UH, IF YOU NEED ME OR ANY OF US DID ATTEND IT AND THAT'LL BE FINE, BUT LET US GET BACK TO US AND LET US KNOW THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE SET UP THE MEETING AND WHEN IT, WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE, SO WE'LL ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, DANNY, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING EVEN A CROSSING GUARD THERE IT'S BEEN, UH, IT'S, I'VE BEEN AWARE OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE CROSSING AND I'VE TALKED TO BEVERLY PURDUE ABOUT IT AT ONE TIME, ANOTHER TRY TO GET MONEY TO PUT ON AN OVERHEAD CROSSING THERE.

AND THAT WAS JUST DISMISSED COMPLETELY BY THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.

THIS WAS A YEAR, SOME YEARS AGO, GO AROUND THE CITY.

ESPECIALLY WITH .

WELL, I WAS WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE THE SCHOOL BOARD OR, OR THE CITY.

WELL, THAT, THAT WILL BE A SOLUTION, YOU KNOW, MEANS OF COORDINATING WHATEVER EFFORTS WE CAN AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR MEETING WITH THE,

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UH, DLT AND THE CITIZENS.

AND AT THAT TIME WE COULD COME UP WITH THE SPEED SOLUTIONS.

AND IF OUR PART IS TO PUT ACROSS IN GUARD, THEN YOU CAN COME BACK AND MAY OF COURSE PROBABLY DO THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT MEETING WOULD BE A FRUITFUL.

THE ONE THAT THE MASS SUGGESTING THAT GIVES THE CITIZENS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FIRSTHAND APPROACH TO THOSE OF THEM WHO ARE DOING IT.

AND THEY COULD TALK ABOUT VARIOUS SOLUTIONS AND PLANS FOR THE FUTURE, IF YOU WOULD.

AND I'M SPEAKING TO DANNY, EVERYBODY CONCERNED, THEY DEFINED THE PROBLEM OR PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE, AND THEN LET THEM PROPOSE SOME SOLUTIONS.

JUST TO SEE WHAT OTHER WORDS, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU SAY DON'T TAKE DOWN ANY THING MORE THAN NECESSARY, THAT'S ONE SET OF HORNS.

BUT IF YOU COME TO SOMEBODY AND YOU SAY, THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'VE GOT KIDS THAT NEED TO GET MESS OUT OF THE ROAD AND THE OTHER SIDE AND GO TO SCHOOL NOW, D O T YOU, THE TRAFFIC PEOPLE, WHAT DO YOU USE SOME GS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? I MAY KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WE NEEDED TO VERY CLEARLY DEFINE WHAT OUR PROBLEMS ARE.

THE OTHER IS THEY HAVE A PROBLEM, EVIDENTLY WITH THE BUFFER, WHAT I'M TAKING THE TREES DOWN, AND THEN YOU JUST STUCK RIGHT ON TOP OF THE ROAD, I GUESS, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THAT.

DEITY.

MY NEIGHBOR HAS A FENCE AND DOTD MADE HER MOVE HER FENCE TWO FEET.

THAT PER FENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, BUT SHE'S ON THEIR PROPERTY.

SO SHE HAS TO MOVE HER FENCE.

THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IT DOWN AND SHE HAS TO PAY SOMEBODY TO PUT IT BACK UP.

SO YOU CAN GO OUT THERE AND LIKE TALK TO THEM TOO.

YOU'RE BLUE IN THE FACE.

THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AT THIS POINT.

THEY'VE MOVED SOME OF HER ZOE WISHES, WHATEVER WE'VE GOT TO ACT ON IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I MEAN, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, WE'VE GOT TILL MAY, SCHOOL'S GOING TO BE GETTING OUT, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO GET GOING ON THIS ONE.

WELL, HE'LL, HE'S COMING THROUGH FOR US BEFORE EVERY TIME THERE YOU GO.

SURE.

TO GET HER NAME AND PHONE NUMBER SO YOU CAN KNOW HOW TO CONTACT HER.

THERE'S BEEN ANOTHER PROBLEM DOWN THERE WITH THE, UH, TRAFFIC EXITING, THE, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT THE BACK ENTRANCE, UH, FROM THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

ALSO, WE DEALING WITH THE SCHOOL I'M GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THEN AT 23 YEARS, AND THE AVERAGE STUDENTS WOULD HAVE 16 AND 22 HOUSE DOWN EVERY DAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMES OUT OF THE SIDES WHEN 16 TO 23 CHILDREN EVERYDAY, UH, SKIP PRACTICE ONLY EXISTED FOR AN HOUR.

I WAS THINKING POSSIBLY, IF ANYTHING, THE BOMER HERE PROBABLY PUT A WE'VE STOPPED PRACTICE.

SO THEY ASKED THE CANDIDATE OPTIONS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT DOD SAYS FOR US.

WHEN WE, WHEN WE PRESENT THEM WITH OUR PROBLEM, THEY MAY HAVE AN ANSWER.

AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE'LL GIVE THEM SOME SUGGESTIONS OR, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE AWARE THAT THE ROAD WAS COMING WITHIN THE LAST WEEK.

WHEN THEY PUT DOWN ALL THE LIGHTS BACK TO THE RED TOP TO GIVE TO US ON GETTING A TREE BACK THERE WITH THE LAND, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR TRAIN SET, CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROBLEM.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO GIVE YOU A PETITION, A COPY OF YOUR PETITION TO THE CLERK, AND SHE'LL MAKE COPIES AND MAKE SURE DLT GETS A COPY OF IT AS WELL.

NICE.

SO, OKAY.

WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, IS THERE ANYBODY, I FORGET WHICH ROW ON THIRD ROW, EVERYBODY ELSE ON THAT ROAD.

OKAY.

LAST GROUP.

NOBODY ELSE CAN.

OKAY.

BILL POINTED OUT AND THE MAYOR FROM RAPPER BAND IS HERE.

SO YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE YOU MAY HAVE RICHIE.

ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY? WELL, THAT MEANS IF I GO TO ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS.

OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? OKAY, LET'S SEE.

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NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER FOUR, WHICH WOULD BE TO CONSIDER RESIGNING A 41,540 POINT 66 SQUARE FOOT LOT LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF US, HIGHWAY 17, SOUTH BESIDE CAROLINA TOOL AND RENTAL EQUIPMENT COMPANY FROM OUR 20 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO C3 COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

AND, UH, I THINK THIS IS ONE THAT WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT LAST TIME AS I RECALL THE PUBLIC HEARING AND POSTPONE THE VOTE THE NIGHT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THE VOTE IS TONIGHT.

AND, UH, DID WE HAVE ANY, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM HERE AND I PROBABLY SHOULD GIVE ANYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANY FINAL WORDS ON IT, WOULD YOU NOT REFRESH MY RECOLLECTION ON WHY WE POSTPONE IT? I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER SONS.

AREN'T VERY GOOD.

YOU ARE PAPERWORK CONCERNING.

IF THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T GET ENOUGH WARNING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WE HAD SOME, AND ALSO THE CONCERN AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE DOING WHAT WE SAY WE WILL DO WHEN WE FIRST, UH, EXTENDED, UH, ETJ OUT THAT WAY.

AND WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THERE WAS SOME CONCERN, SOME CONCERNS THAT, THAT WE MIGHT BE NAKED IN SOME WAY.

SO WE TOOK TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND THINK ABOUT IT.

I THINK MR. SALMONS HAD VOICED SOME CONCERN.

IT WASN'T ENOUGH NOTICE GIVEN.

UH, SO EVEN THOUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS LAST WEEK, IS ANYBODY HERE IN OPPOSITION TO US RESIGNING THAT? WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, UH, STROKE STRONGLY OPPOSED TO BE ZONING THAT, UH, COMMERCIAL, THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK NOW ON THIS PARTICULAR MEETING, I GUESS HE'S NOT HAVING TO SAY YOU'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT STILL IT WASN'T IN THE NEWSPAPER UNTIL TODAY.

WE'RE NOT HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING NOW, BUT YOU, YOU HAVE IT IN THE NEWSPAPER, NOT AS A PROBLEM, JUST AS A BOAT REFERRING TO, IS THE FORUM SECTION CONFUSION LAST TIME ABOUT THE ARTS.

IT WAS JUST A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE.

OKAY.

BUT OUR HEAD HAS BEEN RUN, CORRECT? YES.

AND MR. SAMMONS, IT WAS RANDOM.

IT WAS RUN TODAY.

DID YOU MESS THE SALMONS? DID YOU NOTIFY ANY OF THE PEOPLES? THAT'S THE LAST MEETING WE HAD A MEETING AND THE PEOPLE THAT THEY EXPRESSED, THEIR CONCERN, MR. WHITE, WHO LIVES NEXT, UH, TO THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, AREA, UH, FOR ZONING.

HE'S STRONGLY AGAINST IT, BUT HE'S AN ELDER MAN BECAUSE OF HIS HEALTH CONDITION OF HE DIDN'T COME TONIGHT.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT VOLUME OF PEOPLE WE HAD A MEETING IS, UH, THE LAND, WHICH YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS FIRST, EXCUSE ME, IS FOR SALE.

IT'S A SALE SIGN ON IT.

AND I WAS ASSUMING THAT THE LAST MEETING, WHEN MRS. LEE S UH, WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY, THE INDIVIDUAL HERE SAID THE BODY SHOP, THE BODY SHOP DOESN'T OWN.

THAT PROPERTY IS FOR SALE IS OWNED BY THE RELATIVES IT FAILED FOR.

I FEEL THAT UNTIL THEY SELL THE PROPERTY, THEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION ON ZONE ZONING, REZONING AT THIS TIME.

BUT NO ONE REALLY, UH, OWNED THE PROBLEM IN THE SENSE, JUST TO REAL ESTATE AGENT, TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

AND THEN SAYING THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEXT DOOR HAVE MADE A PROPOSITION TO THEM THAT THEY WOULD BUY.

THAT'S JUST WORD OF MOUTH.

THERE'S NO WRITTEN CONTRACT.

THERE'S NO WRITTEN AGREEMENT.

AND YOU'RE NOT SURE WHEN SHOP WOULD GET THAT SITE, THEY COULD SELL THAT SITE TO ANYONE.

IT COULD BE ADULT OR SHOP THERE.

WHAT I SAY IT COULD BE A PROSTITUTION.

WE HAVE ORDINANCES TO PROTECT IT, BUT THOUGH YOU STILL, IT WILL BE AN ADULT SHOT.

AND FILTERED SAID, ROCKY RUNNING SAUDI TJ.

OKAY.

UH, IT COULD BE THE END THING COULD BE THERE.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE PEOPLE,

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I FEEL STRONGLY THAT PEOPLE FEEL, I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY SCARED.

AND THE SOFTWARE IT'S CALLED.

SOMEBODY SAID THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW THAT THIS CITY IS NOT GOING TO ALLOW.

OKAY.

WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO LIE.

UH, THAT'S ONE ISSUE.

BUT ANYWAY, UNTIL THE REAL ESTATE AGENTS SELL TO PROPERTY, I THINK YOU SHOULD HOLD OFF ON DECIDING THE FATE OF THE PARTICULAR SITE, BUT NOT CHANGING IT FROM THE HARD PRINTED TWO, THREE, UH, LET US, UH, GIVE THE FOLKS THAT OWN THE PROPERTY AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK UP.

IF YOU WOULD BE COME FORTH AND TELL US YOUR NAME AND MR. MAYOR RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS WHIT MORGAN.

I'M A PARTNER WITH THE AFFIRMATIVE, THE BURDEN ON THE STATE.

AND WE OWN THIS PROPERTY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS ON THE CONTRACT AND SUDDENLY BE SOLD FOLLOWING THE REZONING OF THIS PARTICULAR TRACK OF LAND.

UH, THE GENTLEMAN IS HERE TONIGHT, THAT PLANS TO PUT IN A BODY SHOP AND IT WILL REALLY PROMOTE GROWTH FOR THAT AREA.

THIS IS LIKE INDUSTRIAL.

IT IT'S A POSITIVE, IT'S A POSITIVE TYPE OF INDUSTRY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THEY DROVE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REFERRED TO.

THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT.

THEY DON'T WANT BUSINESS IN THAT AREA.

THE CITY HAS MADE A COMMITMENT TO THE PEOPLE THAT THEY PARTICULAR MY ERA SAID, THE REASON WHY THEY WANT TO ETJ THAT ERA.

SO IT COULD KEEP IT A RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER AND STOP THE, A MIXTURE OF BUSINESS AND RESIDENTS TOGETHER.

AND YOU'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY.

YOU WOULD NOT DO YOU SAY THAT I WAS SPREADING MISINFORMATION, WHICH WAS A LIE MESS.

THE SOUND'S TELLING THE TRUTH MESSED US UP.

YES, YES, NO.

WE HAD THE PUBLIC HERE IN LAST TIME.

AND JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

NUMBER ONE, I REMEMBER I REMINDED YOU LAST TIME THAT IF THERE WERE NO ETJ THAT THESE PEOPLE COULD DO ANYTHING THEY WANTED AS FAR AS BUILDING A BUILDING OR DOING WHATEVER, BECAUSE THERE'S NO ZONING.

AND BECAUSE THERE IS AN ETJ, THEN THE CONSIDERATION CAN COME IN AS TO ZONING AND WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T BUILD.

SO THE PROTECTION IS THERE.

IT'S NOT, NOT THE REVERSE.

LIKE YOU MAY THINK.

AND REALLY WE PULL THIS THING LAST WEEK AND DELAYED IT BECAUSE YOU HAD SOME CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T NOTIFIED.

SO WE, WE SAT IT BACK.

AND YET TONIGHT, WHEN I ASKED IF ANYBODY ELSE WAS HERE, THAT WAS AGAINST IT.

YOU WERE THE ONLY PERSON THAT IT RAISED THEIR HANDS.

SO I FEEL LIKE IF ANYBODY REALLY HAD ANY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT IT, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE HEARD IT FROM THEM OR SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE SHOWED UP OR WHATEVER.

SO THEREFORE, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, WE RARELY NEED TO VOTE ON THE THING THERE.

IF YOU GO TO CANCER, YOU GO IN A PLACE AND SOMEONE ASKS, YOU REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF NEWPORT.

THEY ELECTED YOU AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.

IF PEOPLE DON'T FOLLOW YOU THERE, PEOPLE DON'T FALL IN THERE.

WHEN THEY HAVE ELECTED ROUNDS IN THE DOOR TO SPEAK FOR THEM.

WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY, NOT DICTATORSHIP, BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? WHERE ARE YOU HERE, SIR? I SAY, ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE THE ELECTED A VISUAL? I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

YEAH.

IN THAT ERA, IN ANY COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO HELP THEM COME FORWARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE, TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

SO WE HAD TO CHANGE THE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS OF THE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE NEW MASSIMO.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

PARTNERS FROM THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION ARE 20 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

C3.

SECOND, WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I THINK YOU NEED TO CALL THE ROLL.

YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

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MR. MAYOR, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, NOW THAT IT'S OVER AND DONE WITH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT WHEN THAT, UH, WHEN THE ETJ WAS EXTENDED, WE SAID WE WERE DOING IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT DID OCCUR OUT THERE, BECAUSE WE KNEW IT WOULD OCCUR WOULD BE, WOULD NOT BE UNDESIRABLE DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS JUNK, LOTS, JUKE JOINTS AND MASSAGE PARLORS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT TO PREVENT THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IS FLY.

THAT ACTION WAS TAKEN THIS BOARD NEVER, EVER DURING ITS DISCUSSIONS SAID THAT THAT AREA WAS GOING TO REMAIN TOTALLY RESIDENTIAL.

WE SIMPLY WANTED TO PREVENT UNDESIRABLE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT CORRIDOR.

AND AS HAS BEEN STATED SEVERAL TIMES, HAD WE NOT PUT THAT ETJ PROTECTION IN THAT BUILDING WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN HALFWAY CONSTRUCTED NOW.

AND THE PEOPLE THERE WOULD HAVE HAD NO PROTECTION.

AND IT MIGHT'VE BEEN AN ADULT BOOKSTORE BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD HAVE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO PREVENT THAT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A JUNK LOT, OR IT MIGHT'VE BEEN A JUKE JOINT.

AND NO ONE WOULD HAVE THE BIN WOULD HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO PREVENT THAT THE PREVENTION OF THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IS EXACTLY WHY THE ETJ WAS CREATED.

AND WE HAVE PRESENT PREVENTED A UNDESIRABLE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THIS ACTION.

THE BUILDING THAT COULD HAVE GONE THERE, EVEN AS A BODY SHOP COULD HAVE BEEN JUST A SHACK, BUT UNDER THE CITY REQUIREMENTS, IT MUST BE PROPERLY LANDSCAPED.

IT CANNOT BE JUST A SLAM SIDED METAL BUILDING.

IT MUST HAVE WOOD OR BRICK FACING ON THE AREAS, SEEN BY THE PUBLIC TO MAKE IT PRETTIER, TO KEEP IT FROM BEING JUST A JUNKIE SHACK.

THE CITY IS ABIDING BY ITS OBLIGATION TO THOSE PEOPLE.

WHEN WE EXTENDED THE ETJ, WE ARE WORKING TO PREVENT UNDESIRABLE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT CORRIDOR WE HAVE BEEN, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

UM, SO THE LAW SAYS THEN A CHURCH RESIDENCE OR SCHOOL WELL, JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU SAID IT MIGHT BE AN ADULT STOVE THAT YOU SAID IT NOT ME.

AND I TOLD YOU THAT THERE ARE LAWS AND ORDINANCES IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH WILL NOT ALLOW FOR I'M SORRY, BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE DROPPING.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO, I TRY TO KEEP THIS THING IN SOME, SOME SORT OF ORDER WITHOUT BEING TOO PARLIAMENTARIAN, BUT, UH, WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO OTHER THINGS.

LET ME SAY THAT I'VE SEEN THE PEOPLE OF ROCKY RUN AND EM, IN LARGE GROUPS, I'VE SEEN THEM IN HERE, I'M IN AND OUT AND, AND TALK AND THEY'RE REAL GOOD FOLKS.

AND WE ARE GOING TO KEEP THEIR INTEREST AT HEART.

JUST LIKE WE SAID, WE WOULD, AND WE MOVE UP HERE.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T SEE THEM TONIGHT.

SO, I MEAN, ANYWAY, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

NUMBER FIVE IS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

SO THAT'S GONE.

NEXT THING IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I BELIEVE WE GOT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR NUMBER SEVEN.

AND NUMBER 10, I LIKE TO PULL UP AND THIS MANAGER HAS PULLED 14.

I NEED TO EXPLAIN 14 TO, OKAY.

SO 17 AND 14.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

CALL THE ROLL ON.

YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

MR. MAYOR, IF WE COULD, CAN WE GET THE EXPLANATION ON 14, TAKE A FEW MINUTES, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I, YOU DIDN'T GET THIS, UH, ORDINANCE IN YOUR PACKAGE AND I HAD, IT'S BEEN PLACED BEFORE YOUR, UH, PLACE AS IT IS.

AND, UH, IT'S A LITTLE, UH, MORE THAN JUST A, UH, AMENDMENT TO CHANGE A CERTAIN AMOUNT HERE.

WHAT THIS DOES IS IT BRINGS IN THE ENTIRE PROJECT OF THE PROMENADE AND SETS UP A PROJECT ORDINANCE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF UNION POINT TO CARRY THROUGH WITH THE, UH, COMMITMENT TO DO THE PROM AND WITH THE BRICKS AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, EVERYONE'S GOT DESIGNABLE PUTS THE BUDGET TOGETHER TO DO THAT.

AND THE

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REASON THAT IT NEEDS TO COME UP NOW IS THAT DURING THE HURRICANE, THERE WERE SOME LOSSES INCURRED.

THOSE LOSSES HAD TO BE PAID FOR.

THEY WERE, THEY WERE EXPENDED, ADDITIONAL REVENUES CAME IN, BUT THE BUDGETED MOUNTS, UH, BECAME EXCEEDED.

SO TECHNICALLY FOR ABOUT A WEEK, WE'VE BEEN IN VIOLATION OF THE LAWS GOVERNING THE BALANCED BUDGET.

AND SO THIS IS THE REASON IT COMES TO YOU TONIGHT IS IN ORDER TO GET THIS BUDGET BACK IN ORDER.

IT ALSO INCLUDES, UH, THE, UH, PROCEEDS THAT WE ANTICIPATE FROM, UH, THE FUNDRAISING PROJECT OF ABOUT $350,000.

AND IT INCLUDES THE POSSIBILITY OF AN ADDITIONAL $500,000 TO PAY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.

THOSE PROCEEDS ARE BUDGETED.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE SPENT UNTIL WE COME BACK TO THIS BOARD FOR BIDS AND FOR OTHER TYPES OF APPROVAL, I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO ADOPT THIS AND HAVE IT IN THERE.

AND THEN THINK THAT WE WERE TRYING TO THROW SOMETHING IN ON YOU.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT'S FOR ANY QUESTIONS, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

CALL THE ROLL ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE.

YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

ALRIGHT.

NOW, MR. PENDLETON NUMBER SEVEN, NUMBER SEVEN.

NO, I'VE BEEN PUNISHED BY THESE GENTLEMEN HAS STONE THAT CARE OF THE PROBLEMS. OKAY.

WE PULL NUMBER SEVEN TO POSTPONE NUMBER 10.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MOVE THE RIVER MOOD, CHECK THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IT'S JUST EXTREMELY, TOO LOW FOR WHAT WE HAVE INVESTED IN.

WE HAVE A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON IT? AND IF HE COMES BACK AT MINIMUM, BE IT NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST 20% OVER WHAT WE PAY FOR.

I THINK WE NEED TO CHECK AND SEE WHAT THE LIABILITY IS FOR THE, UH, POLLUTION ON THE SITE TO BE CONSIDERED IN THAT.

WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION.

YES.

UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR NUMBER, JACKIE.

ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO THAT.

MY NAME IS BILL NELSON.

I MADE THE OFFER AND IT WAS MADE UPON WHAT I CONSIDERED THE THOUGHT OF THE LIABILITY AND THE TANK REMOVAL REQUIREMENTS THAT I BELIEVE THERE'S A TANK OVER THERE.

IT'S RUSTING OUT AND THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL.

IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN.

WE HAVE NOT DONE A FULL PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL AUDIT, BUT THERE IS THE POTENTIAL OF A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL EXPENSE IN CLEANING UP THE SITE.

SO IF YOU THINK THE PRICE IS TOO CHEAP, CLEAN IT UP AND THEN PUT IT BACK UP FOR BID AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO THEN STAND IN LINE, BUT NOBODY ELSE TOUCHED IT WHILE IT WAS OPEN FOR BID.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO CLEAN UP THE QUESTION.

AND YOU CAN HAVE THE EXPENSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PHASE ONE AUDIT.

I THINK MR. NELSON'S GOT A POINT AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED WE NEEDED TO FIND OUT THE EXTENT OF ANY POLLUTION ON THAT SITE BECAUSE THERE DOES APPEAR TO BE SOME, WE JUST, NOBODY KNOWS THE EXTENT.

SO WE'RE SHOOTING IN THE DARK HERE.

WE'RE JUST FLYING BLIND AS TO THE ACTUAL VALUE OF THE RATHER THAN TO REJECT OR ACCEPT.

THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST TABLE IT FOR MORE.

FOR ME, I'VE BEEN RUNNING REJECT WORK ON THIS ACCURATE ONE.

I BELIEVE WE NEED TO TAKE SOME STEPS TO FIND OUT WHAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM THAT WOULD HAVE.

THEN WE CAN KIND OF GAUGE THE MARKET BACK.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST REJECT THIS, BE A SAMARITAN BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO LOW CONSIDERABLE.

THEN WE PUT THE PROPERTY UP FOR BID.

SO IF SOMEBODY JUST REQUESTED THAT THE PROPERTY PEOPLE, I JUST MADE A BID OF $5,000 AUTHORIZED WE'RE IN ADVERTISING AND THAT WOULD HAVE DONE.

AND THEN THE QUESTION WOULD RAISE THEN IN HIS PROPOSAL, HE SUGGESTED THAT HE WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR INCLUDING A POOR CLEANING UP ANY ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS THAT WAS LATER HIS DAUGHTER, NANCY, AND TOLD HER THAT IN FACT, I SENT HIM A COPY OF THE NOTICE WAS TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER AND DON'T CAUSE NANCY, SHE HAD SOME

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QUESTION ABOUT IT, BUT WE ENDED UP ON ALL FOURS WITH NO PROBLEMS. SO THE RESOLUTION IN WHICH YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU'RE DENIED, WHICH WOULD ACCEPT THE BID, INCLUDES APPROVING THE DEED, WHICH IS ATTACHED TO RESOLUTION.

A COPY OF THE DAY IS ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION.

AND THAT DEED REQUIRES THAT THE, UH, TANK BE MOVED AND ANY ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTION BE REMOTE.

IT DOES NOT FIX THE TIME DRAIN, WHICH IT HAS TO BE DONE.

BUT, UM, I BELIEVE THAT IS THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT TOWARD HOW MUCH, WHAT IS IN STEADY COST.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT DANNY WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN I WOULD SAY.

AND WHAT KIND OF TIME RANK, IF WE DID GET IT DONE, I'VE DONE SEVERAL THINGS.

ONE, YOU TALKING ABOUT 2002 WEEKS UP TO A MAXIMUM OF $2,000 FOR A SITE OF THAT NATURE IN A PHASE ONE.

IF THEY DISCERN, IF THEY DETERMINE THAT THERE IS QUESTIONABLE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO A PHASE TWO.

AND THEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT SOME SERIOUS MONEY.

25, $30,000 WAS THE LAST ONE THAT I DID.

AND THE PHASE THREE IS STILL GOING ON AND WE'RE OVER $75,000, BUT THAT SOME NOTES, OH YES, SIR.

APPARENTLY THERE WAS, BUT IN CRAVEN COUNTY AND NOTHING TO DO WITH US, IT WAS SOMETHING IT WAS DONE HISTORICALLY BEFORE WE EVER CAME TO TOWN.

BUT YOU KNOW, AS GUARDIAN OF THE PROPERTY OF THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE PAID WHAT A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THIS PROPERTY AND PART OF IT, BUT I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE COMING UPON US TO MAYBE BUDGET TO DO SOME ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT I DON'T HONESTLY, WHY WAS SHE BEING ARRESTED? UNLOADED, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

IF WE DO THE PHASE ONE STUDY, IS IT UP TO US TO JUST STOP AT THAT POINT? IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY FIND FURTHER CONCERN, CAN WE JUST STOP AT THAT POINT AND UH, OR IS IT PAST OUR CHOICE? YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT WORKS THAT WAY.

I THINK MR. WARD HERE COULD PROBABLY ADVISE YOU A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT.

IF YOU GET INTO A PHASE ONE AND THERE'S SOMETHING DOWN THERE THAT IS WRONG, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO JUST LET IT SIT THERE.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO LET YOU JUST SIT THERE.

IF IT IS AFFECTING, AS IT WAS IN THE CASE OF OUR AUDIT PLAN, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LET IT STAND STILL.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU COME DOWN AND CLEAN IT UP OR SOLVE THE PROBLEM IS THEY, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO TO A $75,000 THOUGH.

WELL, NO, THE WAY THIS IS, THIS IS THE ACTION THAT IS REQUIRED IS CALLED AND WE'RE, WE'RE NOT REALLY HOMEFREE YET.

THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US A CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH AT EVEN AT THAT LEVEL.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN ONE ACRE OF LAND BY THE WAY.

SO WE'RE SORT OF BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE IN THAT THE LAND, IF IT'S CLEAN IS WORTH MORE MONEY, HOW MUCH MORE? WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE.

WE COULD GET A, WE CAN GET A REALTOR TO GIVE US A PRICE ON IT.

AND ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE IS A STRONG SUSPICION THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM THERE.

BUT IF ON OUR OWN, WE GO TO DETERMINE THE EXTENT OF THE PROBLEM.

WE'RE LIABLE TO BE HEAD OVER HEELS INTO AN ECOLOGICAL CLEANUP, MAYBE NOT.

AND THAT'S THAT, THAT'S THE POSITION WHICH WE FIND OURSELVES.

WE DON'T KNOW.

I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAS A SMALL SERVICE STATION, THE FOUND A TANK THAT WAS UNDER THE GROUND THAT WAS THERE BEFORE HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY COSTUME, $45,000 TO CLEAN IT UP.

AND IT WAS, IT WAS A TINY AREA.

IT WAS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR AN ACRE.

SO I THINK WE'RE THIS, THIS ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY TO GO ON THIS ONE, BUT IT'S A TOUGH ONE.

I THINK WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE THE POSSIBILITY WHEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE ALSO THAT THE LAW REQUIRES ANY PREVIOUS OWNERS TO CLEAN IT UP.

WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY BEFORE WE BOUGHT IT, WE'LL SEE THAT THE LAW REQUIRES EVERYBODY IN THE CHAIN OF TITLE TO CLEAN IT UP.

I BELIEVE I'M NOT FOR SURE, BUT THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, BUT I THINK WE ALL NEED TO ACT ON THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE WE JUST HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH HOMEWORK.

YOU HAVE A THOUSAND IDEAS FIT THE 500 RIGHT NOW FOR IT.

IF YOU WANT TO GIVE IT AWAY.

GIVEN HAD I TAKE THE RISK? YEAH.

IF WE HAD TO BE ON ONE SIDE OF THIS QUESTION OR THE OTHER, I'D RATHER BE ON HIGHER SIDE THAN MR. NELSON, THE SIDE.

BUT, UH, BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PUTTING IT OFF TO, TO LET, UH, MR. HARTMAN AND MR. WARD TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE AND THE BEST WAY TO GO.

I FIND MR. NELSON TO BE A FAIR MAN AND, UH, EASY TO DEAL WITH.

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SO I THINK WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME TIME TO MAKE A DECISION.

WHAT KIND OF TIME WOULD WOULD AFFECT YOU? BUSINESS-WISE IN OTHER WORDS, HOW MUCH TIME COULD YOU LIVE WITH AND YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO BACK UP AND PUNT, RECONSIDER WHATEVER, LOOK AT IT AND, AND MAYBE DECIDE TO DO, YOU KNOW, THE INITIAL THING ANYWAY, WHO KNOWS? BUT I, I CAN SEE THAT, THAT THE BOARD HAS GOT SOME UNEASINESS ABOUT JUST, JUST PASSING IT IN THE NIGHT TIME.

COULD YOU WORK WITH, AND THAT WAY WE COULD COMMIT TO DOING SOMETHING ON A CERTAIN TIME, BE FAIR TO YOU AFTER ALL HE, WHAT IS THE TIME IF YOU GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL AUDIT FEES? WELL, WHAT IS THE TIME AFTER WE GO BACK AGAIN AND REOFFEND? WHAT DID I BELIEVE? THIS ONE TOOK A LITTLE LONGER THAN NORMAL.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, DIDN'T IT, MR. WARD AT THE TIME, NO WAY I DID.

THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.

, I'VE GOT 90 TO 120 DAYS BEFORE I NEED TO EITHER FISH OR CUT BAIT.

THERE IS LANDLOCKED ON ONE SIDE BY ADDITIONAL IVES PROPERTY AND IS LANDLOCKED ON THE OTHER SIDE BY THE DOWNS, ALL OF THAT.

NOW THERE'S NO MORE, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT WOULD BE CITY PROPERTY ON ONE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND IT'S THE BACK OF THE LOT.

IT'S NOT THE BUILDING OR ANYTHING.

AND IT WOULD SIMPLY GIVE PRECISION THE OLD BUS GARAGE, SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE IN THE BACK.

AND I'D SAY 60 TO 90 DAYS OR 120 AT THE MAX OPPOSITION.

BY THAT TIME, I BELIEVE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE'RE FACED WITH.

NOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE RE ADVERTISEMENT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST PUTTING OFF A DECISION AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADVERTISED.

SO WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE LEGALITIES.

AND IF WE JUST PUT IT OFF UNTIL WE DECIDE WHICH WAY TO GO, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE RE ADVERTISING AND ALL THAT AT ALL.

SO THAT'S, THAT WILL BE THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM, BUT, BUT LET ME, LET ME SAY THIS.

SUPPOSE WE DETERMINED WE JUST TAKE NO ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM.

AND THEN SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH MORE THAN FIVE POUNDS, BUT I MEAN, DOES THAT GIVE US THE RIGHT JUST TO NEGOTIATE WITH HIM OR DO WE HAVE TO REJECT AND START ALL OVER WITH THE BID PROCESS AGAIN? SO WE COULD THEN NEGOTIATE THE HAM.

IF WE FOUND IT WAS WORTH 10,075, IF IT WAS A QUESTION SEEKING MORE FUN, IT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO REHAB IT OR PUT IT UP THERE, SEVERAL DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES.

AND THE SAME WITH THE PROPERTY, THIS ONE, THE ONE THAT ELECTED TO USE, WHICH IS TO ADVERTISE A BID FOR OFFICIAL PROPERTY.

IT GIVES SOMEBODY ELSE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND INCREASE THE BID.

AND IN THIS CASE, IT WASN'T A WINNER.

USUALLY YOU'VE GOT ONE AFTER ANOTHER, AFTER ANOTHER, IN THIS CASE, THERE WAS NO OTHER BID.

CAN WE DO SOMETHING IN 30 DAYS? WHAT'S YOUR NOTES.

BUT SEE, EVEN THEN THAT PROPERTY IS NOT THAT BIG.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ADEQUATE BECAUSE OF, OKAY.

HE HE'S BEEN IN 5,000.

IF WE DO SOMETHING IN 30 DAYS, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME MONEY.

SO WHATEVER WE SPEND THAT 5,000, WOULD IT BE IF WE SPENT A THOUSAND, ALL THAT 5,000 TURNS INTO 4,000.

SO I JUST THINK, HONESTLY, IF WE, IF WE SPEND A THOUSAND AND FIND OUT THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM, IT WOULD BE PROBABLY LANDING UNLOADING ON HIM.

I MEAN, TO SELL IT, BUT THIS BEING A REALISTIC, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THIS GENTLEMAN, BUT I CAN LOOK AT HIM AND I CAN TELL HE'S VERY SUCCESSFUL.

AND HE DOES SOME PRELIMINARY STUDY AND HE MADE THAT BID BASED ON SOME INFORMATION THAT HE HAS IN HIS POSSESSION.

TRUST ME, BECAUSE A SUCCESSFUL PERSON DOES NOT BECOME SUCCESSFUL MAKING POOR BUSINESS DECISIONS.

THIS BID IS INADEQUATE AND THEN THE SERVICE THAT WE NEED TO REJECT SOME MARROW TEST.

AND THEN IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO SELL IT, THEN WE'LL SELL.

WHY DON'T WE JUST TABLE IT, SAY FOR 60 DAYS AT THAT TIME, WE'LL GET THE INFORMATION.

WHEN I MAKE A MOTION, SUBSTITUTE MOTION, THAT'S ALREADY A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

TABLE.

SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS TO TABLE.

LET'S TRY TO DO IT IN LESS THAN 60 THOUGH.

I MEAN A MAXIMUM UPSTAIRS.

SO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER I HATE BUREAUCRACY IS LIKE TO DRAG THINGS OUT.

I'M TRYING TO COMPRESS THEM A LITTLE BIT.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE GOT A SECOND TO THAT.

DO WE NEED IT? WE NEED A ROLL CALL FOR THAT THOUGH.

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YEAH.

OKAY.

NO, I DON'T THINK YOU DO ALL THIS.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED A ROLL CALL ALL IN FAVOR OF, OF DELAY IN IT.

UH, FIND OUT THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? SAY I HOLD A POST SAYING THAT IF BILL WANTS TO BUY THAT DOG, I'D BE WILLING TO LET HIM TAKE THE FLEAS WITH IT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M AFRAID OF IS THE NUMBER OF FLEAS WE'RE GOING TO FIND ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND I THINK THERE NOBODY ELSE EXPRESSED ANY INTEREST IN IT.

AND THE REASON HE IS INTERESTED IN SCHOLARS, IT ADJOINS HIS PROPERTY.

THAT'S A MAJOR INTEREST.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HUSTLE IT THROUGH.

WE'LL, WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT DEAL IS AND COME TO SOME DECISION.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING NOW DOWN TO THE APPOINTMENTS.

ALL RIGHT.

WHO'S GOT, I FORGET.

WHO'S GOT SOME IT'S MR. MADIGAN.

I THINK I HAVE ONE, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. THOMAS DWIN WITH THE POLICE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD, MR. DWAYNE LIVES AT 16, 10 HIGH TREE LANE WEST.

AND SHE IS A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER FROM ANOTHER JURISDICTION.

AND HE INDICATED TO ME THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO WORK ON THAT BOARD BECAUSE I'M GETTING NOMINATE ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MA'AM THANK YOU.

I'M STILL LOOKING FOR, UH, A NOMINEE FOR THE APPEARANCE COMMISSION.

NO ONE HAS CALLED ME TO INDICATE THEIR DESIRE TO SERVE ON THAT.

I'M STILL OPEN.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO APPLY FOR THAT POSITION, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? I DON'T REMEMBER WHO HAD A POINT.

NOPE.

NOPE.

NOBODY ELSE HAS ANY.

OKAY.

MISCELLANEOUS MR. MADDEN.

THERE'S SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BRING UP THE POWER OUTAGE SITUATION FOR PEOPLE ON THE TELEVISION AND TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THAT.

WOULD THAT BE A GOOD POINT THAT GET OUT OF THERE? WAS THAT A PAPER THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE? OKAY, VERY GOOD.

WE CAN DO THAT AND DO SOME NEW SPOTS.

WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME NEWSPAPER ADS, LARGE ANTS AND TANKER, AND PROBABLY HOPE TO GET AT LEAST A COUPLE OF STORIES OUT OF THE NEWSPAPER AND OFF OF THE LOCAL TELEVISION STATION.

WELL, I SAW IT IN THE NEWSPAPER TODAY, BUT MAYBE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT'VE MISSED IT.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TOTAL COVERAGE.

SO THAT IS NOT A SURPRISE.

ANYBODY IS NOT SURPRISED, NO MATTER WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO BEST WE CAN TO GET.

AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT INFORMATION OUT IN THE BILLS THAT GO OUT BETWEEN NOW AND THAT TIME ALSO.

THANKS.

OKAY.

MS. LEE? NO, UH, DISAPPEARED.

Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY MISCELLANEOUS SOUND.

OKAY.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

DO WE HAVE UPDATE ON PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF QUEEN AND PALM STREET YET? WASHING MACHINE? IS IT, IS IT, IS IT POSITIVE PERIOD TO CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY AND HE HAS NOT SEEN IT UP TO THE SATISFACTION THAT YOU KILLED THEM INSPECTED.

WE'RE IN CONTACT.

NOW THE CITY ATTORNEY, WHO'S GOING TO BE CONTACTING THEM FOR LEGAL ACTION.

OKAY.

NOW HOW IT IS.

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WATCH THIS SHOW, OH, THIS IS THE GUY BEHIND THE CAMERA.

IF YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE THE POWER OUTAGE, BY HAVING A PICTURE OF ME PULLING THE PLUG RIGHT IN THE RIGHT HANDS, WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.

BUT ANYWAY, SINCE WE'D DONE EVERYTHING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO TONIGHT AND PROBABLY A FEW THINGS WE AIN'T SUPPOSED TO DO, IS IT TIME TO ADJOURN? YEAH, IT'S A RUSH WHICH WAS SENT OUT TO THE GOVERNMENT GENERAL STATUTE APPROPRIATION TO REWORK THE MAP IN THEIR GOVERNMENT AND CHAPEL.

AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY HIV.

THERE WERE TWO OTHER THINGS, THE CONTRACT, WHICH MR. ERICKSON IS INTERESTED THEN AN ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD AMEND THE SECTION OF THE CODE, WHICH CALLED TO MY ATTENTION AT

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THE LAST MEETING, WE SAID, NO ONE COULD SELL GOODS AND SERVICES FROM SYDNEY PROPERTY WITHOUT MENTION TO THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT ORDINANCE WOULD CHANGE THAT SECTION.

SO ALL WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE BOARD OF ALL THREE ITEMS TO BE CONCERTED RESOLUTION, UH, WHICH WOULD BE SENT H THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, UH, REPRESENT AS WELL AS THE OTHERS AND THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SHOREBIRD CONTRACT SOLUTION, UH, SUPPORTING THE INNOVATION, EXPENSIVE SISLEY HOUSING FOR YOU HAVE A GOVERNMENT JOB.

SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT ROAD? YES, YES, YES, YES.

UM, MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE CHANGE IN THE, OR THE CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE, ALLOWING BUSINESSES OPERATED ON RECREATION PROPERTY TO THE, WITH THE PROBATION AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, ALL THE BOARD OF ALL OF THEM.

WE'RE HERE A SECOND.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT COLD ROLL, PLEASE? YES.

YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

AND THE THIRD PIECE OF BUSINESS, I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION ON THIRD BASE, YOU LOOKED AT THE CONTRACT WITH SHORT WORDS, OR YOU DREW IT EVERYTHING.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THE CONTRACT.

ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THE CONTRACT THERE? AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HADN'T SEEN HIM IN A SECOND.

THE MOTION, I SECOND, THE MOTION.

I KNOW I NEED THE CONTRACT, BUT IF I DON'T THINK IT'S ALL RIGHT.

I THINK YOU TRUST YOUR ATTORNEY.

WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PLAN TO HAVE THE BOATS IN THE WARD THAT ROBBIE, HE SAID, WHAT'D YOU SAY , WE CAN TERMINATE IT ON EIGHT HOURS.

NICE.

I THINK HE ASKED YOU WHEN YOU WERE PLANNING TO HAVE THE BOATS IN THE WATER.

MY MAN, MR. MATTINGLY WANTS TO TRY A JET SKI, NOT TOMORROW MORNING BOY, A LITTLE, WARREN'S GOTTA BE COOLED IN THE MORNING.

WE RAN A MOTION AND A SECOND.

AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS NOTCH, YOU MIGHT CALL THE ROLL ON THAT.

YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

YES.

I'D LIKE TO BRING UP ONE OTHER MATTER.

YOU RECALL.

AND THERE WAS A REZONING REQUEST ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, OUT OF PRINT ROAD AND YOU HAD, SO THE SCENE NOW APPARENTLY BOULEVARD, AND THERE WAS A SUGGESTION MADE.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANTED TO BRING THIS UP.

MIGHT HAVE NOT MIKE DENNARD, BUT A SUGGESTION MADE AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE PARTIES AGREED OR WERE ABOUT TO AGREE ON A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER STRIP ALONG THE SIDE OF THE LEAD PROPERTY AREA.

THEY WANTED TO RESOLVE AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GET TOGETHER ON IT AND THEY VOTE ON THE REZONING WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE, BEEN POSTPONE UNTIL TONIGHT.

FIRST MEETING IN APRIL, I WOULD PROVIDE HIM WITH A COPY OF A, WELL, YOU MIGHT SAY IT WAS THE IMPOSITION OF A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT ON THE PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY, THE A HUNDRED FEET NEXT TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE, WHO WERE OPPOSED TO IT.

UH, IT LOOKS ALL RIGHT.

MAY PORTIONS, NOT UP TO THE MODEL, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENED.

OTHER THAN THAT, WHEN ART SENT IT TO ME THE OTHER DAY, UH, IT LOOKED ALL RIGHT.

UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY IS HERE REQUESTING THAT THE BOOK BE HELD TONIGHT, BUT I WANT TO CALL IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

THAT WAS THE BOOK.

WHAT'S THE ANSWER.

IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE JUST IN CASE SOMEBODY WANTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MR. MAYOR, I DO REPRESENT THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE.

I THINK THAT IN THEIR BEST INTEREST, IT'S BEST TO WAIT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

AND I THINK THAT MAKES SURE THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.

MAKE SURE THEY'RE AGREED THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THING WE TALKED ABOUT WAS

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WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROTECT THEM.

OKAY.

SO WHAT ARE WE PUT IT OFF THE NEXT TIME? YES.

ANY DISCUSSION, VOICE BOAT ONLINE, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

I HAVE ONE LANDSCAPE.

IT KEEPS POPPING OUT.

THIS IS THE LAST, YEAH.

THE LAST LAYER NOW MAX HAS GOTTEN TO HERE.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO, AGAIN, UH, I'VE BEEN SENDING OUT MEMOS TO THE BOARD THAT I'VE BEEN RECEIVING FROM THE LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITIES REGARDING ANNEXATION, UH, LEGISLATION.

AND TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT, UH, THERE STILL IS SOME SERIOUS LEGISLATION THAT'S PENDING THERE, UH, THAT COULD RESTRICT THE CITY'S GROWTH, UH, IN THE, NOT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT IN THE, IN THE FAR FUTURE AND COULD REACH STRAIGHT TO OTHER CITIES, ROPES, UH, IMMEDIATELY.

AND SO IF YOU ARE WITH YOUR LEGISLATORS ARE TALKING TO THEM, PLEASE BEAR IT IN MIND AND MAYBE MENTION IT TO THEM THAT, UH, WE COULD USE OUR SUPPORT ON THOSE SUBJECTS.

THE LAST THING I HAVE, AND WE EACH GOT A COPY OF THE LETTER FROM THE NEWBURN HISTORICAL SOCIETY, A FOUNDATION, A HISTORICAL SOCIETY FOUNDATION CONCERNING THE REMOVAL OF THE PAVING, ET CETERA, AND THE 300 BLOCK OF MIDDLE STREET.

WHAT IS THE TIMETABLE ON THAT DANNY? JUNE 2ND.

AND ONCE AGAIN, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY IS VERY INTERESTED IN BEING ABLE TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE ARTIFACTS THAT MIGHT BE UNDER THERE AND TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM TAKING THEM OUT, ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO DO IT, COMMERCIALLY, TAKE THEM OUT AND SELL THEM.

THERE STILL IS NO EXHIBIT IN CITY HALL OR IN ANY OF THE CITY BUILDINGS OF, UH, ARTIFACTS.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST TURN IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, SO BE IT.

BUT ONCE THOSE THINGS ARE GONE, THEY'RE GONE FOREVER.

SO WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO RESTRICT PEOPLE FROM DIGGING UP THE ARTIFACTS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY OR WHOEVER WE'RE GOING TO KISS THEM GOODBYE AND LET THEM GO.

WHAT WE MAY WANT TO DO IS BRING THIS UP AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

THAT'D BE FINE.

AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT THEN, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED.

WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

THAT'S IT MOVING TO JOURNALS ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.