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CALL THE MEETING DAUGHTER WILL OPEN WITH A PRIOR BY, UH, REVEREND MIKE HANSON OF RIVERSIDE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.
IF HE'S NOT HERE, DO YOU MIND COMMISSIONING? I WAS FALLING OUT WITH GOD AS WE HUMBLY COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, OR FINALLY DO BUSINESS IN YOUR NAME VERSUS A FILE OF YOU HAD A SPECIAL BLESSING FOR THE BOARD'S TONIGHT, FATHER OR FATHER, THAT THEY MAY REALIZE FATHER, THAT THEY ARE THERE TO DO YOUR BUSINESS WHILE LET THEM REALIZE YOU PUT THEM IN CHARGE OF YOUR PEOPLE TO MAKE LAWS THAT THE PEOPLE COULD GO BY WHICH THE FATHER GUIDE AND DIRECT THEM IN THE WAY THEY SHOULD GO.
BUT FATHER HELP US THAT WE ARE SEALED WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER.
IF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL FOLLOW THAT, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GUIDE THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR FOLLOW, LET US KNOW, LET US, LET THEM KNOW WHEN THEY'RE RIGHT.
AND FATHER LET THEM KNOW WHEN WE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE WRONG.
FATHER, WE ASK THE, AND OTHER BLESSING IN JESUS' NAME.
HE MAN,
FIRST THING THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, JUST TO PRESENT THE 1997 CITY PRESERVATION AWARDS, THE FIRST I'M GONNA READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND IT SAYS, WHEREAS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS AN EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR MANAGING GROWTH, REVITALIZING NEIGHBORHOODS, FOSTERING LOCAL PRIDE AND MAINTAINING COMMUNITY CHARACTER WHILE ENHANCING LIVABILITY.
WHEREAS HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS RELEVANT FOR COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION, BOTH URBAN AND RURAL, AND FOR AMERICANS OF ALL AGES, ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND ALL ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS.
AND WHEREAS IT IS IMPORTANT TO CELEBRATE THE ROLE OF HISTORY IN OUR LIVES AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY THE DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS AND HELPING TO PRESERVE THE TANGIBLE ASPECTS OF THE HERITAGE OF THE SHAPED US AS A PEOPLE.
AND WHEREAS PRESERVATION BEGINS AT HOME IS THE THEME FOR NATIONAL PRESERVATION WEEK, 1997.
CO-SPONSORED BY NEIGHBORING HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION IN NORTH CAROLINA AND THE NATIONAL TRUST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
NOW THEREFORE WHY MAYOR TOM BAYLESS IS SITTING HERE GOING TO DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 11TH, 17TH, 1997 IS PRESERVATION WEEK AND CALL UPON THE PEOPLE OF NEW BRITAIN TO JOIN THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND RECOGNIZING AND PARTICIPATING IN THIS SPECIAL OBSERVANCE.
SO THEY'RE ALL RIGHT NOW TO PRESENT AWARDS, WE'VE GOT, UH, RAGS, THE KULA WHO WILL COME FORWARD AND EXPLAIN THIS.
AND I THINK YOU WANT TO SPEAK BEFORE WE COME DOWN AND YOU WANT TO KNOW, YOU CAN COME ON DOWN THERE AND CHARGE TEMPORARILY.
I'VE GOT THE HAMMER THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE SIX AWARDS TO BE PRESENTED THE SAME EVENING, UH, BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND JENNIFER KNIGHT, WHO IS OUR VICE CHAIR IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION TO DISTRIBUTE THIS, UH, MAYOR BAYLISS AND ALDERMAN POWER.
HIM WHO REPRESENTS THE FIRST WARD, UH, WILL ALSO COME FORWARD AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECIPIENTS.
I'M GOING TO READ A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF EACH OF THE PROJECTS AND SHOW A FEW SLIDES.
AND AFTER I'D FINISHED THE SMALL, UH, DESCRIPTION OF EACH PROJECT, I'LL ASK THE AWARD WINNER FOR THAT PROJECT TO COME FORWARD.
AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN A CERTIFICATE AS WELL AS THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, UH, LAPEL PIN.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED OCCUPYING A PROMINENT CORNER AT THE INTERSECTION OF CRAVEN AND JOHNSON STREETS.
THE JERKINS RICHARDSON HOUSE, UH, WAS CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN 1848 AND 1849 FOR CAPTAIN THOMAS JERKINS WHO USED THE PROPERTY AS A RENTAL HOUSE.
THE CLASSIC GABLED ROOF SIDE HAUL PLAN HOUSE HAS BEEN LOVINGLY MAINTAINED AND ENHANCED, UH, BY THE CURRENT OWNERS, GORDON, GORDON, AND ELLIS ROCKER WHO HAVE OWNED THE PROPERTY SINCE 1992, THE ROCKERS HAVE ADDED A, A BACK PORCH TO THE HOUSE, HAVE REPLACED SOME INAPPROPRIATE WINDOWS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, METICULOUSLY REMOVED
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LAYERS AND LAYERS OF PAINT, UH, FROM THE OUTSIDE, UH, GORDON ROCKER WAS A, IT WAS A FIXTURE ON THE CORNER HERE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AS HE STOOD ON HIS LADDER, INCLUDING, UH, HAVING MANY A PASSER-BY STOP AND ASK HIM FOR A CARD BECAUSE HE WAS DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB AND THEY WERE INTERESTED IN HIRING HIM TO PAINT THEIR HOMES.UH, THE RUTGERS HAVE, HAVE DONE A GREAT DEAL TO PRESERVE THE ORIGINAL INTEGRITY OF THE HOUSES FROM THE MULTI PANE WINDOW SASH AND TRIM TO THE INSTALLATION OF A WOODEN FENCE AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROFIT PROPERTY, WHICH IS A DESIGN THAT'S BASED ON A DOCUMENTARY 1863 PHOTOGRAPH OF THE HOUSE WHERE THE FENCE APPEARS IN THIS LOCATION, THE DETAILING AROUND THE HOUSE IS INTACT AND THROUGH THE STEWARDSHIP OF THE RUTGERS, UH, THIS HOUSE HAS BECOME A ONE OF THE MOST PHOTOGRAPHED HOUSES IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TODAY.
AND I'LL ASK, UH, GORDON AND ALICE RUTGERS TO COME FORWARD WHO ARE RECEIVING AN AWARD FOR THEIR HISTORIC STEWARDSHIP OF THE JERKINS RICHARDSON HOUSE.
JUST ONE PER ONE GIRL WARWICK CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN 1908 AND 1909.
UH, THIS BUILDING KNOWN AS THE BLADES BLOCK WAS BUILT FOR WILLIAM BLADES, A PROMINENT BUSINESSMAN IN LUMBER MAGNET.
THE BUILDING IS OFTEN REFERRED TO AS THE CREST BUILDING, UH, IN RECOGNITION OF THE LONG-TERM TENANT OF THE BUILDING IN 1995, MELBOURNE BEAVER AND PRESTIGE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION UNDERTOOK A SUBSTANTIAL REHABILITATION OF THE LAWN VACANT STRUCTURE AS A MIXED USE RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE BUILDING HAD SUFFERED FROM YEARS OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND NEGLECT.
UH, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE, UH, PRIOR TO THE REHABILITATION IN 1995, THE BUILDING HAD BEEN PAINTED WHITE OVER TIME.
THE ORIGINAL STOREFRONT DESIGN HAD BEEN OBSCURED BY A 1950 STOREFRONT.
THIS IS A SLIGHTLY EARLIER VERSION OF WHAT THE 300 BLOCK OF MIDDLE STREET LOOKED LIKE.
IT WAS NOT UNCUSTOMARY FOR THE FACADES OF THESE BUILDINGS TO BE COVERED WITH METAL AND OTHER ATTEMPTS TO MODERNIZE THEM.
MR. BEAVER, UH, UNDERTOOK A SUBSTANTIAL REHABILITATION, UH, RESTORING THE STOREFRONT DESIGN BACK TO A WOODEN STOREFRONT.
UH, HE WENT AS FAR AS TO CREATE AN DECORATIVE TILE WORK IN THE OLD STYLE.
THE NAME CRESTS ON THE ENTRANCE THRESHOLD TO THE BUILDING, THE INTERIOR OF THE FIRST FLOOR WAS CREATED AS A PEDESTRIAN MALL CONCEPT WITH THE CREST CAFE, BEING THE ANCHOR TENANT IN THE BACK WITH ITS NOTABLE NEON LIT INTERIOR AND ENTRANCE.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SORT OF 1950S VINTAGE, UH, INTERIOR OF THE RESTAURANT.
GREAT PAINS WERE ALSO TAKEN TO RESTORE THE ORIGINAL TIN CEILING IN THE BUILDING, BOTH ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND ON THE SECOND FLOOR IN THE LUXURIOUS RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUMS THAT ARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
THE CONDOMINIUMS ALSO RETAIN A LOT OF THEIR ORIGINAL, UH, WOODEN FLOORS, UH, WITH THE CONTEMPORARY FLOOR PLAN WITH MEL'S VISION AND WITH HIS, UH, ABILITY TO, TO SEE THIS BUILDING, UH, AS A, UH, MAJOR ASSET FOR DOWNTOWN, HE HAS CREATED A NEW STANDARD FOR REHABILITATION OF A LANDMARK IN DOWNTOWN NEWBURN AND HAS SET THE STAGE FOR FURTHER RETAIL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY.
AND WE RECOGNIZE MEL BEAVER WITH PRESTIGE DEVELOPMENT.
SPEECH
FIRST MAJOR 20TH CENTURY, UH, HOUSE OF WORSHIP BUILT IN 1904.
IT WAS DESIGNED BY CHARLES GRANDVILLE JONES, A NOTE IN NEW YORK CITY ARCHITECT AND COLLABORATIVE COLLABORATION WITH LOCAL ARCHITECT, HERBERT WOODLEY, SIMPSON NOTABLE FOR ITS COMPLEX, MASSING EXCEPTIONAL BRICK AND STONE WORK AND DISTINCTIVE RED SLATE ROOF.
UH, THE CHURCH, AN ECLECTIC EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE CALL THE ROMANESQUE REVIVAL, ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, THE SAME STYLE THAT OF ARCHITECTURE THAT CITY HALL IS ON ITS EXTERIOR.
IN 1994, THE CONGREGATION WAS FACED WITH THE REALITY THAT THE CHURCH DISTINCTIVE RED SLATE ROOF WAS IN
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NEED OF SIGNIFICANT REPAIR.AS A RESULT OF THE METAL FASTENERS OF THE ROOF OF BEGINNING TO FAIL, SLATE WAS FALLING OFF, LEAKS WERE OCCURRING ON THE INTERIOR AND THE CONGREGATION HAD TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BOTH THE CONGREGATION, AS WELL AS TO THE INTEGRITY OF THIS BUILDING AND TO THE COMMUNITY TO RESTORE THIS NOTABLE FEATURE ON THE ROOF.
WELL, THE DECISION WAS MADE TO DO IT AND AFTER CONSIDERABLE FUNDRAISING EFFORTS, UH, THE CHURCH HIRED THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM OF STEVEN'S AND FRANCIS TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF OVERSEEING THE RESTORATION, UH, THE RESTORATION INVOLVED, THE, UM, SALVAGING OF AS MUCH OF THE ORIGINAL SLATE AS POSSIBLE ON THE CHURCH, UH, ADDITIONAL RED SLATE WAS CORY FROM THE SAME QUARRY WHERE THE ORIGINAL SLATE WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, OBTAINED.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, THE DECORATIVE FINIALS ON THE ROOFLINE THESE LITTLE DECORATIVE THINGS THAT STICK UP FROM THE DORMERS WERE REPLICATED, UH, INTACT, UH, IN COPPER.
UH, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE NEW SLATE ROOF, UH, ON THE CHURCH.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE CHURCH ALSO WENT A STEP FURTHER AND BEGAN TO REINTRODUCE SOME OF THE HISTORIC LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS THAT WERE A PART OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN THAT HAD BEEN LOST SUCH AS THESE TWO, UH, DECORATIVE LIGHTS THAT FLANK THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE CHURCH, UH, THROUGH THEIR EFFORTS, UH, AND STEWARDSHIP, UH, THE CONGREGATION OF CENTENARY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH HAS RETAINED AND PRESERVED.
WHAT, UH, WHAT IS NOW ONE OF NEWBORN'S MOST NOTABLE VICTORIAN LANDMARKS, AND WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR WONDERFUL EFFORTS AND VISION TO RESTORE THIS LANDMARK BUILDING AND FRANK CREIGHTON, WHO IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BUILDING COMMITTEE IS HERE TO, UH, TO ACCEPT THE AWARD ON BEHALF OF THE CHURCH DESIGNED BY ARCHITECT READ KEY FOR THE HAND.
PROFESSIONAL BUILDING IS A DISTINCTIVE RED BRICK CLAD THREE-STORY STRUCTURE WITH DISTINCTIVE, UH, MULTIPLE GABLES.
UH, THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED TO SERVE REALLY AS A TRANSITION BUILDING BETWEEN A RESIDENTIAL, UH, STREETSCAPE, WHICH SITS ON THE LOWER HALF OF, OF TRYON PALACE DRIVE AND THE UPPER HALF OF, UH, TRYON PALACE DRIVE, WHICH IS MORE COMMERCIAL IN CHARACTER.
THE ARCHITECT DESIGNED A STRUCTURE THAT SITS CLOSE TO THE STREET AND CONFORMITY WITH THE BUILDING TRADITIONS IN DOWNTOWN NEWBURN, THE THREE-STORY VERTICALITY, THE BUILDING RELATES TO THE STRUCTURE ARCHITECTURALLY TO THE HARVEY MANSION, WHICH STANDS ACROSS THE STREET ATTRACTIVE SIGNAGE AND LANDSCAPING PROVIDE AN INVITING ENVIRONMENT, UH, FOR BOTH THE SHOPPER WHO WOULD VISIT THE GROUND STORY RETAIL SHOPS, AS WELL AS FOR THOSE, UH, OBTAINING ROOT CANALS WHO ARE GOING UPSTAIRS TO THE, UH, DENTAL OFFICE IS LOCATED ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND MRS. BILL HAND ARE THE OWNERS OF THIS BUILDING AND BOTH HAVE BUSINESSES HERE, UH, WHEN OPERATES AND UPSCALE, UH, DRESS AND LADY SHOP ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
HAN HAS HIS DENTAL OFFICES ON THE UPPER FLOOR.
THE HAND BUILDING PROMISES TO BE A LANDMARK OF THE FUTURE, AND IS A NICE ADDITION TO THE CITY'S URBAN GROWING, UH, URBAN CHARACTER, WHICH CONTINUES TO GROW AND FOSTER NEWBURN.
AND WE RECOGNIZE, UH, DR AND MRS. WILLIAM HAND, THE THIRD THE STATUE OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD HAS BEEN A PRESENCE ON QUEEN STREET AND ST.
CYPRIAN'S CHURCH YARD FOR NEARLY A QUARTER OF A CENTURY CENTURY, SINCE IT WAS MOVED THERE FROM THE GOOD SHEPHERD HOSPITAL ON WEST STREET, THE STATUE WAS ORIGINALLY OWNED BY THE BELLAMY FAMILY OF WILMINGTON.
IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THE GREAT BELLAMY MANSION IN DOWNTOWN WILMINGTON, THIS STATUE WAS ACTUALLY OWNED BY THAT FAMILY AND WAS BROUGHT OVER FROM EUROPE, UH, FOLLOWING THE CIVIL WAR WHEN THE FAMILY MIGRATED TO WILMINGTON IN THE MID 1960S, UH, THE FAMILY OFFERED THE STATUE TO THEM, THE RIGHT REVEREND THOMAS WRIGHT, WHO WAS THE EPISCOPAL BISHOP OF EAST CAROLINA, WHO WAS A CLOSE FRIEND OF THE FAMILY AND A CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD HOSPITAL BY 1995.
THIS STATUTE WAS IN A RUINOUS CONDITION WITH, UM, AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE A BEFORE PICTURE, BUT THE,
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UH, FIGURES OF CHRIST, UH, THE CHILDREN THAT YOU SEE PICTURED HERE, UH, THEIR HEADS WERE MISSING IN MOST CASES, THEIR HANDS WERE MISSING AND THE PAINT WAS PEELING.AND FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, UH, THIS, UH, PIECE OF ARTWORK WAS A RUIN WITHOUT, UH, THE AID OF, UH, THREE VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE.
FRED DAVIS, JOE RICKETTS, AND VOLUNTEER TO YOUR JIM GLAD HAR UH, THIS STATUE WOULD HAVE DISAPPEARED FROM THE QUEEN STREET STREETSCAPE.
THESE THREE GENTLEMEN CAME TOGETHER, UH, 200 MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH.
ONE WAS A VOLUNTEER AND THE THREE OF THEM SPENT APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AND A HALF, UM, MOLDING AND RECREATING THE MISSING ELEMENTS OF THE STATUTE USING CHICKEN WIRE AND PLASTER.
NONE OF THEM HAD ANY EXPERIENCE, UH, TRAINED AS ARTISTS.
UH, NONE OF THEM, UH, HAD A PICTURE OF THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF ARTWORK BY WHICH TO GUIDE THE RESTORATION EFFORT, BUT REMARKABLY, UH, AS THEY MANAGED TO PLOW THROUGH THE, THE EFFORT, A, A PASSER BY A LOCAL RESIDENT, JANET LATHAM HAD A PICTURE OF THIS PARTICULAR STATUE AND REMARKABLY, UH, THE PICTURE WAS VERY CLOSE TO WHAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY CREATING.
UH, THE STATUTE, AS YOU SEE IT HERE, UH, WAS DEDICATED, UH, THIS PAST JANUARY 26TH, AND WASN'T CASED IN THIS PROTECTIVE COVERING.
AND NOW AGAIN, UH, STANDS AS A INSPIRATION FOR THOSE WHO DRIVE DOWN QUEEN STREET.
AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, SAINT CYPRIAN'S CHURCH, UH, FOR THEIR EFFORTS TO RESTORE THIS LANDMARK, UH, PIECE OF ART.
AND I SEE MR. DAVIS AND MR. BLATT HIGHER HERE, UH, WHO WILL BE PRESENT, UH, OBTAINING THE AWARD ON BEHALF OF THE CHURCH.
FOR ANYONE WHO HAS EVER WORKED ON RENOVATING A HISTORIC PROPERTY, UH, THE TERM OR THE CONCEPT OF TEAM EFFORT IS PARTICULARLY RELEVANT.
WHETHER IT BE A SPOUSE, A CHILD, AN ARCHITECT, A CONTRACTOR, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, OR A BUREAUCRAT SUCH AS MYSELF WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO HELP PROPERTY OWNERS AS THEY RENOVATE PROJECTS.
UH, EVERYONE HAS AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY IN THE RENOVATION PROCESS.
ONE IMPORTANT PLAYER IN NEWBORNS PRESERVATION SUCCESS STORIES, UH, IS JIMMY COLLINS, OWNER OF COLLINS HOUSE MOVING A BUSINESS.
HE HAS OPERATED FOR PAST 37 YEARS IN THAT TIMEFRAME.
JIMMY HAS MOVED OVER 1000 BUILDINGS, MANY OF WHICH HAVE BEEN HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
AND YOU SEE SOME PICTURES HERE.
THIS HAPPENS TO BE, UH, THE FORMER SAINT CYPRIAN'S RECTORY MOVING TO ITS NEW LOCATION ON, UH, EAST FRONT STREET.
UH, THIS IS A HOUSE THAT, UH, JIMMY IS IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING TO MOVE, UH, ON HANCOCK STREET REFERRED TO, UH, AS THE TULSAN HARGET HOUSE.
UH, THIS IS ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT HE HAS MOVED IN NEWBURN AS WELL, A PROPERTY THAT WAS OWNED BY THE SALVATION ARMY.
UH, THE RAIN'S HOUSE THAT STANDS ON EAST FRONT STREET IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT, UH, JIMMY HAS WORKED ON.
UH, ANOTHER PROJECT THAT YOU, IF YOU'VE TRAVELED DOWN EAST FRONT STREET, YOU'LL SEE A HOUSE PROPPED UP WITH A NEW FOUNDATION GOING UNDERNEATH IT.
THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT JAY HAS HAD HIS HANDS IN.
THIS IS THE BACK OF THE TULSAN HOUSE, UH, WHERE JIMMY ACTUALLY CUT OFF SEVERAL LAYERS OF ADDITIONS IN ORDER TO READY THE BUILDING FOR ITS MOVE.
THE RESULT OF THIS HAS BEEN AN EFFORT TO REALLY HELP FILL IN THE MISSING GAPS IN NEWBURGH HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THIS IS A BEFORE SHOT ON QUEEN STREET.
THIS IS AN AFTER SHOT WITH A HISTORIC PROPERTY BEING MOVED IN THE, UH, SAINT CYPRIAN'S RECTORY AS IT'S BEING MOVED DOWN THE STREET ON ITS NEW FOUNDATION.
AND THEN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY AFTER THE REHABILITATION.
SO JIMMY HAS DEFINITELY PLAYED A ROLE IN, IN HELPING TO MAKE THIS PROCESS WORK.
HIS KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS IS A RATHER UNASSUMING, DEMEANOR AND RELAXED APPROACH TO WORK HAVE HELPED NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE NEWBURGH PRESERVATION FOUNDATION TO MAKE THESE TYPES OF SUCCESS STORIES COME TRUE FOR THAT REASON, WE, UH, PROVIDE THIS AWARD TODAY TO JIMMY COLLINS AS A FRIEND OF PRESERVATION IN NEWBURGH, JIMMY
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AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR AWARD CEREMONY.I'D LIKE TO GIVE SOME SPECIAL THANKS TO ALL OF YOU, BECAUSE TRULY NEWBURN, THE EFFECT OF NEWMAN IS THE RESULT OF ALL THE PARTS.
AND IN FACT, THE GUY ASKED ME TODAY, HE SAID, HE'D BEEN IN NEWBURN FOR 10 YEARS.
HE MOVED HERE FROM UP NORTH AND HE SAID, UH, HE THOUGHT HE CONSIDERED HIMSELF A NATIVE.
NOW, WHAT DID I THINK? AND I SAID, WELL, I'LL TELL YOU HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.
I SAID SOME PEOPLE THE FIRST DAY TO GET HERE AND NATIVES, AND SOME PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE 50 YEARS ARE NOT NATIVES.
THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE COME AND HELPED TO BRING BACK NEW AND WHAT HE WAS IN THE PAST AND SO FORTH.
SOME OF YOU WEREN'T BORN HERE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS, EVERYBODY FROM HERE, UH, EVEN SOME OF THEM THAT PROBABLY PASSED ON.
NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE REQUEST AND PETITIONS OF CITIZENS AND ASK WHERE THE CITIZENS GET TO COME FORTH AND TELL US ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS WE'RE DOING, RIGHT? OH, YOU MEAN, YOU MEAN SOMETHING? TELL US SOME OTHER THINGS, SO, OKAY.
SO WE'LL START ON THE FIRST ROAD AND SEE WHO THE FIRST ONE IS.
I AM A YANKEE, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS AND I CONSIDER MYSELF A CITIZEN AND I WORKED VERY HARD FOR THIS WONDERFUL CITY AND THE COUNTY WITH THE CRAVEN ARTS COUNCIL.
AND I FEEL IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE NOW FOR ME TO FOLLOW THESE WONDERFUL PRESENTATIONS, BECAUSE THE CRAVEN ARTS COUNCIL IS ABOUT TO GO INTO A CAPITAL FUND DRIVE TO RENOVATE ANOTHER HISTORICAL SITE.
AND, UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.
COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND I'M SORRY, DADDY HALL CHECK.
I AM THE INTERIM DIRECTOR AND I'M NOT PLEASED WITH THAT.
AND THOSE OF YOU THAT KNOW CARRIE WORTHY, I WANT TO SLAP HIM VERY HARD, BUT I DO.
UM, I, I DO TAKE VERY TAKE THIS POSITION VERY SERIOUSLY, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE OUR NEW DIRECTOR AS OF THE END OF JUNE AND BEGINNING OF OUR FISCAL YEAR, JULY 1ST, I AM THE ARTS EDUCATION COORDINATOR.
THAT IS MY NORMAL JOB AND GET TO WORK WITH ALL THE WONDERFUL CHILDREN IN THIS, IN THIS COUNTY AND THIS CITY AND ALL THE DIFFERENT TOWNSHIPS.
UM, AS I WAS SAYING THAT WE ARE GETTING READY TO GO INTO A CAPITAL FUND DRIVE.
WE WANT TO RENOVATE THE BUILDING.
THERE'S A LOT OF MOLD AND A LOT OF, OF PROBLEMS WITH THE STRUCTURE, UM, LEAKAGE.
AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST AS AN ORGANIZATION IS REPAIRING PIECEMEALING THE WHOLE THING.
AND WE FEEL NOW WITH THE GROWTH OF THE ORGANIZATION AND THE, THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE GIVE TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, THAT IT IS OUR NEXT STEP TO GO IN AS A BOARD TO GO INTO A CAPITAL FRONT DRIVE.
WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, YOUR KIND CONSIDERATION AS THE CITY TO FIRST RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE GIVE TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
THIS, UM, ARTS COUNCIL IS NOT ONLY KNOWN BY THE COUNTY ITSELF, BUT THE COUNTY IS GETTING KNOWN BY ITS ARTS COUNCIL STATEWIDE AND NATIONALLY.
AND LET ME SHARE A LITTLE EXAMPLE OF, OF THIS RECOGNITION.
I HAD A WOMAN WHO CALLED ME FROM HER NAME WAS CARLA, AND SHE CAME, SHE CALLED FROM LAKELAND, FLORIDA.
AND SHE ASKED ME TO SEND ALL THE INFORMATION FROM THE, FOR THE ARTS EDUCATION PROGRAMS THAT WE DID WELL, OF COURSE WE SHARE OF, WE FEEL LIKE NETWORKING AND SHARING IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT AS AN ORGANIZATION, NOT ONLY WITH ARTS EDUCATION, BUT EVERY PROGRAMMING THAT WE DO, IT ONLY FURTHERS THE NATION WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN.
SO, BUT I WAS CURIOUS IN HOW SHE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS.
AND SHE SAID THAT SHE WENT TO A LEK, A CONFERENCE IN NEW ORLEANS, AND WE WERE REFERENCED AS THE CRAVEN ART CENTER IN NEW BERN, NORTH CAROLINA.
AND THEY WERE BRAGGING ABOUT THE ARTS EDUCATION PROGRAMMING THAT WE WERE DO, AND WE WERE DOING, AND THEN SHE WENT TWO WEEKS LATER TO A WORKSHOP IN TENNESSEE AND OUR NAME WAS MENTIONED AGAIN.
SO SHE FIGURED SHE BETTER CALL AND FIND OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
CAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE RECOGNIZING US.
AND I WAS CURIOUS ON WHO IS TALKING ABOUT US.
I MEAN, WE, WE WORK VERY HARD HERE.
WE WORK SO HARD THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO A LOT OF PROMOTION.
YOU KNOW, NOT EVEN A COUNTYWIDE OR CITYWIDE COULD BECAUSE WE'RE CONCENTRATING ON THE PROGRAMMING AND THE THINGS THAT WE ARE BRINGING TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY AND THE CITY.
AND SHE SAID, WELL, SHE COULDN'T REMEMBER WHO DID IT IN TENNIS, WHO SAID, MENTIONED US IN TENNESSEE, BUT SHE REMEMBERED WHO IT WAS IN NEW ORLEANS.
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THE WOMAN'S NAME WAS MURIEL SILVERSTEIN STOUFFER.AND SHE WAS, SHE WAS, UM, THE FOUNDER OF ARTS DOING ARTS TOGETHER WITH THE METROPOLITAN ART MUSEUM IN NEW YORK.
SO I FELT LIKE WE MUST BE DOING SOMETHING AND WHERE I'M GOING WITH, THIS IS THE PART OF THE FUNDING THAT'S GOING TO BE AT JEOPARDY ARE THOSE TYPES OF FUNDINGS.
WHEN WE GO INTO THIS CAPITAL FUND DRIVE, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ASK OUR MEMBERSHIP, OUR CORPORATE SPONSORS AND OUR NEW CORPORATE SPONSORS TO NOT ONLY FUND THIS FACILITY THAT IS IN DIRE NEED TO BE REPAIRED AND TO BE RENOVATED AND TO BE ALIGNING WITH THE NEW REVITALIZATION OF THAT 300 BLOCK OF, OF MIDDLE STREET.
WE CANNOT ASK THEM TO FUND FUND PROGRAMMING AND THIS CAPITAL FUND DRIVE.
THIS IS THE STRATEGIC DIRECTIONS OF OUR BOARD AND OF OUR MEMBERSHIP.
THE FACILITY, UM, IS USED NOT ONLY BY THE ARTS COUNCIL, BUT ALMOST ALL THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS, THIS COUNTY AND THIS CITY.
WE ARE A TICKET SALES, UM, AGENT FOR THOSE PLACES THAT DON'T HAVE OUTLETS FOR TICKET SALES.
THE STAFF HANDLES THAT OUR VOLUNTEERS, OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE MOSTLY RETIREES AND WE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PURPOSE WHILE THEY'RE HERE ACTIVITIES.
UM, WE PROVIDE PROGRAMMING FOR THE CHILDREN AND PARTICULARLY, AND THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT WILL BE AT RISK AND THEY ARE IN MY HEART BECAUSE THIS IS MY, THIS IS MY, MY, MY DRIVE.
AND MY, MY PASSION IS FOR ALL THOSE CHILDREN THAT ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED, NOT ONLY IN THE SCHOOLS, BUT YOU KNOW, IN AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS, LATCHKEY KIDS AT RISK CHILDREN, WE ARE DEVELOPING.
WE HAVE, UM, WE'VE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMMING AT CRAVEN TERRACE LAST YEAR.
AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO EXPAND OUR, OUR SUMMER PROGRAMMING TO GET THESE KIDS ENGAGED BECAUSE IT WAS SO SUCCESSFUL.
WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO IT IN TRENT COURT.
WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO IT AT DUFFY FIELD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE WEED AND SEED FROM THE CA FROM THE CITY.
WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO IT AGAIN IN CRAVEN TERRACE, IN PERRY TOWN, WHICH IS IN BRYCE'S CREEK AREA.
THIS IS IN JUNE, BUT WE WANT TO SUPPORT THIS EVEN MORE.
WE WANT TO EXPAND IT EVEN MORE.
WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE SUPPORT THAT WE DO IN THE SCHOOLS.
EVERY CHILD, WE SPEND AT LEAST $40,000 A YEAR IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM REACHING EVERY CHILD IN THIS COUNTY.
BUT THOSE WILL BE THE PROGRAMS THAT WILL BE CAUGHT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SELF-SUFFICIENT.
THEY ARE PROGRAMS THAT ARE, ARE, ARE FREE TO THOSE, TO OUR CLIENTELE THERE.
AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS PLEASE GIVE US THE CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO OUR BUDGET.
YOU HAVE BEEN SO GENEROUS IN THE PAST TO US, AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
WE APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT, BUT IT'S THOSE PROGRAMS AND PROGRAMS LIKE THE KAPOR PARK MURAL PROJECT, AND, UM, UH, PRO PROGRAMS THAT ARE WE'RE ARE JUST NEWLY DEVELOPING, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MUSIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ARE SEEKING GRANTS, BUT, BUT AS YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE, UM, THE ATMOSPHERE OF ARTS FUNDING, THAT IT IS UP TO GRASSROOTS, IT IS UP TO LOCALS PEOPLE TO HELP US ACHIEVE THIS BECAUSE OF THE ATMOSPHERE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY JOB WAS CREATED FOR THE BOARD, FROM THE BOARD AND FROM THE NORTH CAROLINA ARTS COUNCIL TO DEAL WITH ARTS EDUCATION.
AND I GOT SALARY SINCE ASSISTANCE.
SO I WILL DO IS AS MUCH WORK AS I CAN TO KEEP THIS GOING, BUT WE TRULY WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THIS, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO GO INTO THIS CAPITAL FUND DRIVE.
IT IS NOT SAFE FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS IS NOT SAFE FOR OUR CHILDREN THAT COME INTO THE, TO THE ARTS COUNCIL FOR, FOR, UM, AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMMING.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY, BUT, UM, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE AND THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU DO AND, AND AS A YANKEE, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR, UM, THE, THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE, UH, THE, THE RENOVATIONS, UM, ALSO INCLUDES AN EXPANSION THAT WE ARE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH, UM, AND TO HELP WITH DOWNTOWN PARKING.
UM, WE ARE TRYING TO, WE WILL BE APPROACHING, APPROACHING DAVID DAVID'S CIGARS AND, UM, MRS. RAY TO, UH, TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL SPACE IN THE BACK AND ALSO CREATE SOME, SOME
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PARKING FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS SO THAT WE DON'T TAKE UP YOUR SPACE ON THE STREET.AND IN OTHER AREAS, UM, FIRST CITIZENS BANK, WHO HAS BEEN VERY GRACIOUS TO US BY NOT GIVING US TOWING US AWAY, BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE A VERY LARGE, UH, RETIREMENT VOLUNTEER FORCE AND THE PROJECT, UM, THAT HAS BEEN QUOTED.
IT'S A THREE-YEAR PROJECT, AND IT WILL COST BETWEEN 700 TO $900,000 TO RENOVATE AND TO KEEP OPERATION COSTS.
AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS.
EVEN DOWN THE LINE ON THE FRONT ROW, WHO'S NOT, IT'S, MUST'VE FALLEN AMERICAN.
WE CAN, WE, ONCE I HOPE WE'LL SIT FORWARD TILL WE GET TO THE GOOD SYNERGETIC.
THAT'LL BE FINE, MR. FOY, EXCUSE ME.
THEY WON'T BE HOLD YOUR, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO YOURS YET.
YOURS IS COMING UNDER ANOTHER HEADING HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.
I'VE BEEN INFORMED WELL, MAYBE IT WON'T BE TOO LONG.
LET'S SEE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE FRONT ROW, SECOND ROW.
EVERYBODY CAN KEEP IT AS SHORT AS THEY CAN TONIGHT IN DEFERENCE TO THE RAIN.
AND YOU TRY TO GET MUSTER FOR WAY OUTTA HERE.
AND THEY WERE RANDOLPH RESIDENT CITY.
I'M UP HERE AND AGAIN TONIGHT, AND I WANT TO GO OVER THE SAME THING THAT I STOOD BEFORE YOU IN NOVEMBER CONCERNING SOME DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE TO SOME SHRUBBERY AND THE SMALL RIGHT MERLE TREE THAT WAS DONE BY THE END OF THIS, IT WAS REMOVING A FALLEN TREE, OUR APPEARED TO FOCUS BOARD AND REQUESTED THAT THESE ITEMS ON THE, UH, REPLACED, UH, IN, DURING THAT TIME I STOOD HERE AND I SPLAYED HER.
WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE DAMAGE THAT HAD BEEN DRAWN SO CLOSE AND SO LONG.
AND I NOTICED IN THIS, IN THE MINUTES, NOTHING HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN THESE MINUTES AS TO WHAT I STOOD BEFORE YOU AND BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THAT NIGHT.
NOW, SINCE THAT TIME I SPOKEN TO, UH, MR. RANDOLPH, EXCUSE ME, ONE SEC.
HOW WAS THE DAMAGE DONE? WHAT CAUSED THE DAMAGE WAS DONE? JULY, UH, APPLE STORM AFTER THE HURRICANE HURRICANE? NO, NO.
YOU SAID THAT THE DAMAGE WAS DONE BY THE ENGINEERS, I GUESS, CONTRACTED BY SIP THAT CAME OUT AT ONE 30 IN THE MORNING TO TRY TO REMOVE THIS TREE THAT HAD FALLEN.
THIS BIG TREE HAD IT CAUSED A BLACKOUT.
SO THEY TRIED TO RESTORE THE ELECTRICITY STUFF.
AND SO THEY WERE CLEANING UP THE PROBLEMS AND THEY WENT DOWN HERE AND CUT THE TREE.
AND WHEN THEY REMOVED, IT SEEMS A MEM FELL ON ONE OF HER HEDGES.
UH, THIS TREE, THIS TREE WAS ON THE CITY'S RIGHT AWAY, RIGHT ALONG BY THE CAMILLE ALONG ALONGSIDE ANOTHER KEY.
THAT'S JUST ABOUT TO FALL NOW, UH, IN DOING SO, THEY WERE CUTTING HAIR, THE LAMBS FROM THE TREE INSTEAD OF THE INTERNET.
I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT I FEEL THAT HAD THEY GONE OVER AND REMOVED THE BALL LINE FROM THIS, YOU DEAL WITH THE PHONE CALLED THE POWER WAS ALL OVER THE CITY.
THIS DAMAGE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE, BUT BY, UH, THE DAMAGE TO, TO THE HOUSE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE BECAUSE THEY RIPPED THEM THEIR METER.
AND THEN, UH, ALONG WITH THE ROCK AND ALL FROM THE HOUSE NOW, WHILE THEY WERE CUTTING THESE BIG LIMBS OFF AS THESE BIG LIMB STALE, THESE ARE, UH, SHRUBBERY BUSHES WAS A RIGHT IN THE PATH.
SO ONE SWORE BUSH AND ONE, UH, SMALL TREE WAS DOWN.
AND I BROUGHT PICTURES THAT NIGHT AND I SHOWED YOU PEOPLE.
WHAT HAD HAPPENED OUT THERE AND THE TALKS, THE WOODEN TOPS OFF OF MY CAST, UM, POST WAS CRUSHED, WELL KNOWN PUNCHER SHELL WAS GOING TO JUST SAW HIM.
I BROUGHT HIM HERE IN THE NOVEMBER
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MEETING AT NOVEMBER MEETING.I STOOD BEFORE THIS BOARD AND I PRESENTED PITCHES.
SO DON'T MAKE IT, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, MR. MANDELA, DID ANYONE FROM THE CITY COME OUT AND TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM? NO, THE PROBLEM HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
IN THE MEANTIME, SEVERAL TIMES I HAVE TALKED, SPOKEN TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
THE LAST TIME I SPOKE TO HIM, HE GAVE ME THE IMPRESSION THAT MY INSURANCE COMPANY SHOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME DAMAGE THAT THE CITY DOC, I TOLD HIM, NO WAY.
I THINK THE CITY HAS, UH, CALORIE OR ANY OF THE DAMAGE THAT'S GONE IN ABOUT HIS PROPERTY.
THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
SO TO THIS DAY, NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
AND THIS IS WHY I'M BACK TONIGHT TO, UH, ASK THIS BOARD TO INSTRUCT THE CITY MANAGER, TO SEND SOMEBODY OUT THERE, TO REPLACE MY SWARBRICK AND MY, UH, TREE.
AND ALSO I TOLD HIM AT THAT TIME THAT I SPOKE TO HIM ON THE PHONE, THE FIRST TIME THAT I WOULD DO THE DECORATION, REPLACE THE DECORATION ON TOP OF THE TEST, POST SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT I WOULD DO IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
MS. RAN IT UP, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH DAMAGE WAS DONE? DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST TO REPLACE IT? I DON'T, I'M, I'M IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE MATERIALS AND LOWE'S NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REPLACEMENT OF WHAT YOU WANT TO SIT AT TO REPLACE THE TREE.
WELL, AND YOU AND MS. ALMA LEE CAME OUT THERE AND I, AND I, I SHOWED IT TO HER.
SOMEBODY BROUGHT A LITTLE, A SPRAY OR SOMETHING AND PUT IT OUT THERE AND JUST PLOP IT DOWN ON THE GROUND AND THE WAY IT'S STILL THERE.
AND IT'S NOT WHAT I HAD PLANNED ORIGINALLY, THIS, THIS ROB BUSH THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
MR. RANDOLPH, GET YOU TO DO THIS.
MR. HANDOFF SITTING THERE FOR THAT.
THE DAY THAT I WENT TO TALK WITH YOU AND YOU SHOW ME THIS, I WENT BACK HOME AND CALLED MR. HARTMAN.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT, I DON'T HAVE YOUR NUMBER, BUT NOT STOPPING BY TO, TO ADVISE YOU THAT IF YOU SHOW ME THAT PICTURE OF A PLANT THAT YOU WANT IT $9, I BELIEVE.
AND YOU SAID AT WALMART OR SOMETHING, AND I WAS TELLING MR. HARTMAN THAT I'D BE GLAD TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR IT.
AND HE WAS SAYING THAT IF YOU PAY FOR IT, THAT WE WOULD REIMBURSE YOU OR I'LL PAY FOR IT, YOU KNOW, BY THE, BY THE TREE SO THAT IT CAN REPLACE IT TO NOT, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE MONEY.
THEY'LL LET YOU PICK UP THE TREE.
AND ROGER
BE GLAD TO GO WITH ME AND PLANT THAT TREE.
IF THAT WILL SATISFY THE SITUATION, I'D BE MORE THAN GLAD TO BUY IT.
SHE'S NOT HAPPY WITH SOMETHING HE PLANT.
I SAW THE TREE THAT HE PLANTED.
NOW THE ONE YOU'RE SHOWING ME, THAT WAS THE BUSH.
WELL, THE THING ABOUT THIS BIG, I STARTED BRINGING IT DOWN HERE TONIGHT.
I REMEMBER SEEING IT, BUT I THINK THAT THEY START OUT LIKE THAT AND THEN THEY GROW.
I'M ASSUMING THAT WASN'T ABOUT I'M USING THE ONE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE IS MUCH BIGGER.
I, LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TO PICK UP TWO OF THOSE.
I DON'T EVEN WANT ONE IN A TREE AND LOOK, OH, YOU ASKING US TO REPLACE IT BACK WITH THE SAME SIZE THAT WAS THERE BEFORE THE SIZE THAT I PLAY.
I THINK IT'S ON, IT SHOWS THE SONG THAT IT WAS WHEN I PLAYED.
AND THEN IT GREW BIG WIDE LIKE THIS, AND IT'S WIDE LIKE THAT ON THE COMING IN.
I CALL HIM
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU EXPLAINING, BUT, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD ASK YOU THAT YOU WOULD WORK WITH MS. LEE.
I THINK MS. LEE WOULD, IS WE'LL WORK WITH YOU AND TRY TO GET OUT, PLANNING OUT OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT, HAVE SOMEONE TO COME OUT THERE.
AND IF, IF POSSIBLE, IF IT WOULD JUST ALLOW MS. LEE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GET THE PROPER INFORMATION TO THE, TO THE RIGHT PERSON.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
IS THAT FINE? BECAUSE IRINA SAID THAT MR. RANDOLPH, IT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING INTO THE EXPLANATION, BUT IF IT'S LEAKING, GO OUT THERE AND RECTIFY THE PROBLEM, IT'LL BE FUN.
AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS IT.
AND THEN MISS THIS, LEAD THAT AND GET IT DONE, CALL ME I'M SERIOUS, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK MS. LEE CAN, CAN TAKE CARE
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OF IT.AND I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE SINCE LAST YEAR.
AND SINCE THAT TIME I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY MANAGER I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
SO IF THERE WAS ANY INTENTIONS OF ANYBODY DOING ANYTHING, IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN OVER BY NOW.
WELL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO DO, TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION? JUST GET SOMEBODY, JUST, JUST, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT YOU HAD A, THE REASON I DID THIS, BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU HAD A TREE PLANTING DEPARTMENT.
I THOUGHT YOU HAD A BLACK EYE CC TO WORK AS A LONG, YOU KNOW, THE ANESTHETIC PLANTING TREES WENT IN AND I THOUGHT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I WAS COMING IN.
WELL, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY'S AGREED TONIGHT TO SEND SOMEBODY OUT THERE FOR YOU TO APPROVE WHATEVER IT IS BEFORE THEY PLAN IT IN SOMEBODY PLANNING.
AND, UH, THAT'S ABOUT THE BEST WE CAN DO.
I HEARD SOMEBODY SAID, IF I BOUGHT THE PLAN, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
NO, NO, BECAUSE LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
THIS IS NOT ALL THAT'S INVOLVED HERE.
WHY I EXPLAINED TO MR. HOFFMAN, UNLESS HE FORGOT IT THERE, I WOULD GO FORTH AND DO THE PROJECT, DO THE WORK ON THE TEST.
UM, CAUSE I I'M IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, BUYING THE MATERIALS.
I HAVE THE MATERIALS ALREADY, BUT I JUST HAVEN'T DONE IT BECAUSE I WAS WAITING FOR TO SEE WHEN THE CITY WAS GOING TO REPLACE THIS BUSH AND THIS TREE BECAUSE THEY BOTH, IS THERE ANYTHING MORE THAT WE CAN TELL YOU TONIGHT THAT WOULD MAKE YOU HAPPY? OTHER THAN THE, LET YOU PICK OUT THE TREES AND WE'LL HAVE THE MAN PLANET, CAN SOMEBODY HELP HER PICK OUT? OKAY, WHOEVER WORKS IN THE TREE PLANTING APARTMENT, I THOUGHT THAT WITHDRAWN.
SINCE THEY WORKED FOR THE CITY, ROGER HEAD, PLEASE HAVE ROGER CONTACT HER AND POINT OUT WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
IF YOU WOULD PICK ONE FROM THE STOCK WE HAVE IN AND WE'LL GET IT IN THE GROUND.
BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO.
YOU KNOW, W WE SPENDING THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY COMING IN AND GOING, SO, SO WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO HAVE A LIABILITY, ACTUALLY TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
I'LL LET YOU ASK MY WIFE ABOUT IT.
YEAH, NO, NO REFLECTION AND NO DISRESPECT TO YOU, BUT I'M A TAXPAYER TOO.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE TRYING TO, THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO SATISFY MY WIFE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO SATISFY.
AND ANOTHER THING I BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THE OTHER NIGHT, UH, WHEN I WAS HERE IN NOVEMBER, WHERE THE SECOND TIME I REQUESTED THAT SOMEONE COME OUT THERE AND MOVE THAT REMOVED THAT SLUDGE FROM UP AGAINST THAT BULKHEAD.
OH, THAT SLUDGE HAS BEEN SLUNG UP AGAINST THAT BOOK HEAD WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THERE.
IN FACT, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH THERE IN TWO YEARS AND THIS ONE HAS BEEN THERE FOR TWO YEARS, ALL ALONG THE DISPLAY.
I ASKED IF SOMEONE WOULD GO OUT THERE AND REMOVE IT, JUST REMOVE IT.
IT'S CREATING A PROBLEM THERE.
THAT WAS A SINKING ODOR THAT COMES FROM IT.
AND EVERY TIME IT RAINS, THE RAIN WASHES EVERYTHING RIGHT DOWN THERE ALONGSIDE THIS DITCH BAG.
AS IF IT'S THERE TOO, FOR THIS STUFF TO KEEP THROWING UP AGAINST THERE'S.
THIS, THIS BUCKHEAD WAS PUT UP TO PROTECT MY YARD FROM BEING CONSUMED BY THAT.
AND I'M NOT AS DEEMED AS WHAT ISN'T, IT
BUT IN THIS PROTECTED IS KEEPING YOUR PROPERTY INTACT.
ISN'T IT? THE PROBLEM IS, IS THERE'S AN OLDER AND YOU WANT TO LEAN OUT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE DITCH MAKES AND THE BULKHEAD IS PROTECTING YOUR POCKET, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
IT DOESN'T SAY IT DOES NOT SAY IT'S NOT PROTECTING APPROXIMATELY MS. RHONDA, THE BEST, THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN RECTIFY THAT PROBLEM IS IF WE GO IN THERE CONCRETE THE WHOLE BOTTLE AND RUN IT FOR THAT'S IT RIGHT NOW IN THE SORENTO, YOU'VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE, WHERE IT HAS BEEN IMPROVED AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S WRAPPED UP.
I THINK THAT YOUR REQUEST IS SOMETIMES IT'S JUST GOING BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY.
YOU, WHEN I HAVE SOMETHING TO SITE NOW, LEMME JOHN YOU SOMETHING ALONG THAT PITCH WATERS THINGS THERE ALL THE TIME, I CAN STAND ON MY STOMACH AND SEE WATER COMING IN AND SEE ALL THE DITCHES AND, UH, CONTRIBUTOR, THE MAIL CLEANED UP ALL BUT THAT, SO THIS IS THE MAIN HONOR FOR EVERYTHING TO COME INTO IT.
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AS FAR AS THE ROBOT, MY YARD IN THE BACK OF MY YARD.WHEN THE STAR WAS GOING INTO MYSELF, WHAT WENT INTO MY STORAGE HOUSE AND DESTROYED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING IN THERE.
YOU KNOW, I ENJOY LISTENING TO YOU.
IT'S A TIME I ENJOY TALKING ABOUT TOO, BUT MS. RANDOLPH, REMEMBER THE PROBLEM WAS THERE BEFORE YOU GOT THERE.
REMEMBER THE NAIL WAS THERE BEFORE YOU
SOMETIMES IT JUST SEEMS AS THOUGH YOU WANT THE MOST IMPOSSIBLE SITUATION TO COME UP AND THIS, AND I THINK THE CITY HAS DONE QUITE A BIT.
WHEN I INVESTED IN THAT PROPERTY IN 1983, THIS SON WAS IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING PIPES ON THE GROUND OVER THERE.
SO THEY WERE CUTTING UP, MAKING IT WHY FOR WATER TO COME FOR THESE PIPES TO RUN WATER INTO.
WHAT THEY DID IS THEY MADE IT.
THIS WAS JUST A LACK OF A CREEK LINE.
YOU COULD ALMOST JUMP ACROSS IT.
AND THIS IS FOR, THAT WAS RANDOM.
WE IN DEFERENCE TO ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF WE'VE GOT TO DO, NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO GET RESOLVED TONIGHT.
SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS.
I KNOW WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS FOR YOU AND WE'VE CONTINUED TO, WE TOLD YOU WE'D DO SOME STUFF TONIGHT, BUT WE GOT TO MOVE ON WITH THE CITY'S BUSINESS BECAUSE THERE ARE 21,000 AND SOME OTHER TAXPAYERS OUT THERE THAT ARE ASKING US TO DO THAT HERE IN SPIRIT.
BELIEVE ME, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MOVE.
I CAN'T HELP IT IF THEY DON'T COME DOWN HERE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE CROP, BUT THEY MAY NOT SHOW UP DOWN HERE, BUT WE HEAR FROM HIM PLENTY.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND I HOPE SOMEBODY WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
AND I'M TRYING TO COME BACK DOWN.
ANYBODY ELSE ON THAT ROAD? OKAY.
I LIVE AT 13, 10 KIMBERLY ROAD.
I'M EMPLOYED, BUT TEXTS LEASE CORPORATION AND GOES BURN.
I'M ALSO THE SENIOR FIRE CAPTAIN WITH THE NEW VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS AND AT THE I'D MUCH RATHER FACE GO INTO A BURNING BUILDING LIGHT AND HAD TO STAND UP HERE IN FRONT OF Y'ALL.
HOW WILL I FEEL STRONG ENOUGH ABOUT MY PROBLEM THAT I HAD TO APPEAL TO? Y'ALL THE PROBLEM WITH SERVING AND WASH VACATION, BEING DENIED AT OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD APPROXIMATELY 10 DAYS AFTER SUPERVISOR HAD APPROVED.
WHAT'D YOU SAY WE CAN'T HEAR YOU
SHE WORKS FOR THE COLLECTION DEPARTMENT HERE IN THE CITY.
SHE'D BEEN THERE APPROXIMATE 10 YEARS NOW.
AND OUR 17 YEARS OF MARRIAGE, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A FAMILY VACATION IN THE SUMMER.
EVEN WHEN MY WIFE WENT THROUGH TWO SURGERIES, RADIATION TREATMENT, CHEMOTHERAPY TREATMENT, WE STILL HAD A FAMILY VACATION.
SHE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT, BUT WE STILL WENT THE SCHOOL STARTING SO MUCH EARLIER THAN THEY USED TO.
TIME'S AT A PREMIUM DOWN THE SUMMER VACATIONS.
OUR KIDS WHO ARE 13 YEARS OLD AND 16 YEARS OLD, HAVE NEVER MISSED GOING SOMEWHERE IN THE SUMMERTIME WITH US.
AND SINCE MY WIFE'S CANCER DIAGNOSIS, WE'VE KIND OF, I HADN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE BEST HUSBAND IN THE WORLD, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE LIFE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROMISE OF TOMORROW.
AND WE KNOW THAT EVERY TRIP WE TAKE COULD VERY WELL BE THE LAST ONE THAT WE TAKE TOGETHER.
AND THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT HER DENIAL WAS DUE TO A COMPUTER PROGRAM THAT Y'ALL WERE IMPLEMENTING CALLED BANNER.
AND THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING SINCE I UNDERSTAND IN 1995, NOT PERSON, NO SEVERAL TIMES THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN SCHEDULED.
IT'S BEEN CANCELED, HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED, AND NOW UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S SET TO GO IN SERVICE IN JULY, SUPPOSEDLY.
BUT I THINK IT'S UNCALLED FOR, TO TAKE OUR FAMILY'S VACATION.
NOT ONLY MINE, BUT ALL THE OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT'S THERE, THAT'S INVOLVED IN THE SAME PROGRAM.
NOT ESPECIALLY TAKE OFFENSE TO THE COMMENT BY OUR DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT SHE COULD TAKE HER VACATION LATER ALONE.
UH, THAT STRUCK ME A LITTLE BIT WRONG THERE AND KNOW THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT FEELS THAT WAY.
I THINK IF Y'ALL, IF THE BOARD THINKS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A MORALE PROBLEM, LOOK AT YOUR COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT.
YOU'LL FIND THAT THEY'VE GOT A MORALE PROBLEM THAT MAKES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PALES IN COMPARISON.
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FULL OF WATCH FOR ME TONIGHT.SHE DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA OF ME COMING UP HERE.
HAVE I RELY THEM AND BE MAKING HER JOB A LITTLE BIT TOUGH ON HER, BUT WHAT I WANT Y'ALL DO.
CAUSE I'M NOT HERE TO MAKE ANY DEMANDS OR THREATS.
AND MY DAUGHTER SITTING BACK HERE, I JUST LIKE Y'ALL TO EXPLAIN TO HER WHY SHE DID THE WORK THIS SUMMER.
EXCUSE ME, HAVE YOU GONE TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS PROBLEM? I DID WRITE MR. HEARTLAND BETTER AND THAT'S BEEN THE SET ME UP FOR THE FOURTH.
Y'ALL COME UP HERE, MR. GASTON.
THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THAT, UH, THE WAY OUR CITY CHARTER IS STRUCTURED, WE ARE A, UM, A MAYOR CITY MANAGER, CITY COUNCIL MANAGER, FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
AND AS ALL OF THEM, ALL WE DO IS MAKE POLICIES CONCERNING THE CITY.
WE HAVE TO DEFER TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE DEPARTMENT HE IS, AND WE CAN'T MICROMANAGE AND GET INVOLVED.
AND ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS IS JUST BEYOND THE SCOPE OF OUR POWER.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT WE CAN HIRE FOLKS AND WE CAN FILE A POST.
BUT UNDER THE CITY CHARTER, WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE.
WE HAVE TO RELY ON THE CITY MANAGER AND HE CONTROLLED THE DEPARTMENT.
IS, WERE YOU ABLE TO BILL, WAS MS. GASKINS ABLE TO FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE? MS. GASKIN TWO WAS DENIED.
THERE IS A PROCESS THAT SHE COULD FIND TO SUPERVISOR THEN TO MR. HARTMAN.
AND SHE HAS NOT BEEN IN THIS DEPARTMENT OR SUPERVISOR THAT'S BEEN THAT'S WHERE I'LL GET A SUPERVISOR DENIER THE RIGHT TO GO TO MR. HARTMAN.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE APPEALS CHANNEL, IT HADN'T BEEN RUN THROUGH YET.
IS THAT CORRECT? LET ME JUST ASK A COUPLE OF THE LAMINATOR QUESTIONS SINCE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
WHAT IS THE, IS THIS VACATION POLICY FOR EVERYBODY IN THAT DEPARTMENT? BECAUSE THE COMPUTER IS GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED EVIDENTLY ABOUT JULY OR WHATEVER.
I THINK THAT THAT IS WHAT ME AND HIM AND THAT'S WHAT WAS SAID.
OF COURSE, IF WE MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR ONE EMPLOYEE AND CORPORATE DO IT FOR ALL OF THEM, I'LL ASK.
THE ONLY THING I'M ASKING IS WHY THEY, UH, WHY MUST IT BE JULY? WELL, THAT'S OUR TARGET BAG.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING AT IT A LONG TIME.
THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN POSTPONED IN ONE TIME, AND THIS IS THE NEW TARGET THAT WAS SET INSTEAD OF THIS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE.
BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THE TARGET DATE, PLUS A MINUS TWO WEEKS PLUS A MINUS A MONTH OR WHATEVER DOES IT IMPACT THE CITIES? WELL, HOW MUCH I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE MONETARY OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IT WOULD IMPACT.
IT'S, UH, THERE'VE BEEN PLANS SET UP THERE'S TRAINING SCHEDULE.
THERE ARE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULES THAT ARE, AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS AND THEY ARE STILL, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING DAY AND NIGHT ON IT, TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT, GET IT IN, IN THE RIGHT TIME.
BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S A TARGET DATE THAT WE HAD SAID IT WAS THAT A YEAR AGO.
AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
IT WAS EXPLAINED TO EVERYONE THAT IT WOULD BE A LONG INVOLVED PROCESS AND THAT THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF TRAINING AND TIME INVOLVED IN, UH, IT SAYS RIGHT HERE REQUESTING PETITIONS OF CITIZENS.
THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS A CONSENT AGENDA.
SO YOU WANT TO PULL ONE OFF OF IT.
WE'RE GETTING THE WE'RE PULLING THAT ONE OFF RIGHT NOW, SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT PULLING OFF NUMBER 11.
WELL, I, THE MOST MOTION WITHOUT CONSENT AGENDA AGENDA EXCLUDED ITEM 11, ENLIGHTENED 12, AND THE LINE OF 11 AND 12.
WE NEED TO CHANGE ON ITEM NINE.
THEY TELL ME THE RESOLUTION IN BED WAS FOR THE 300 BLOCK OF METAL STREET, NOT 200 VISITOR TYPE.
I WAS THERE TO CHANGE THAT FOR THE RECORD.
AND WE HEAR A SECOND END TO APPROVE EVERYTHING.
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YES.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.
MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
THE, UH, THE ITEMS THAT WE POOLED, BUT SOMEBODY LIKED TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE TWO ITEMS ARE AND DRESS, AND I START POINTING AT EACH OTHER.
WELL, WELL, WE HAVE DONE, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN, I THINK IT IS JUNE OF LAST YEAR.
WE HAVE, WE BROUGHT UP MR. PAUL'S PIECE OF PROPERTY OVER ON WALT BELLAMY DRIVE FOR DEMOLITION AND THE BOARD EXTENDED THAT TIME AT THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT GAVE HIM A SIX MONTH EXTENSION IN RELATION TO YOU TO SEE HOW MUCH HE COULD GET DONE IN A PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THAT SIX MONTHS, PERIOD OF TIME, WE REALIZED THE NIGHT THAT THE SIX MONTHS HAS PASSED WELL OVERDUE.
AND, UH, WHEN I WAS SPEAKING WITH MR.
AND WE FELT THAT IT WAS TIME TO BRING IT BACK BEFORE THE BOARD'S ATTENTION AND FOR THE BOARD TO SEE WHAT KIND OF WORK HAD BEEN DONE AND SO FORTH ON DOWN THE LINE.
AND TONIGHT I HAVE A VIDEO AND PLUS SOME PICTURES I WOULD LIKE TO PASS OUT.
AND ALSO IN RELATION TO THE THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE, THE VIDEO, WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE THE PICTURES FIRST OR THE VIDEO FIRST? I RECKON I CAN PASS THE PICTURES OUT AT YOU, AS YOU ALSO NOTICED THE VIDEO OR THE PICTURES, THE VIDEO AT THE SAME LOCATION.
THIS IS THE FIRST SO WHAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
WHAT DO YOU ADVOCATE THAT MIGHT BE MORE IMPORTANT?
AND FOLLOWING THAT WAS IN RELATION TO A COUPLE OF INSPECTIONS ON INSPECTION, TAKING PLACE BY MR. I TALK, TELLING HIM FULL OF SOME OF THOSE SAME ITEMS AND SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT HE NEEDS THAT TOLD HIM THAT THEY WILL BE PROPERLY DONE AND THAT THEY NEEDED TO BE CORRECT.
THE INSPECTION REPORT THAT WAS DONE BACK ON APRIL THE 30TH OF THIS YEAR, WHICH I HAVE HERE BEFORE ME AND I HAVE A COPY BEFORE, I SUPPOSE YOU SAID THE DRIVER LOOK AT IT, WHICH SPEAKS ABOUT SOME OF THE VERY SAME THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, MR. FOY HAD GONE OUT AND STARTED DOING THIS FRONT PORCH AND EVERYBODY, MOSTLY EVERYBODY, BUT 99% OF THE PLANS, THE INVOLVED WAS NOT PROPER FOOTINGS UNDERNEATH THE PORCH ARE NOT PROPER CROP.
UM, VARIOUS OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED THAT WAS BEING DONE.
AND, UH, WE HAVE ASKED MR. BOYER ON CERTAIN LOCATIONS FILES WE'LL DOCUMENT.
THE FACT THAT WE'VE ASKED HIM TO CALL FOR INSPECTIONS AND BACKS AND SO FORTH.
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HE HAD STARTED COVERING UP THE FRONT POLE WITHOUT CALLING THEM WELL, MIRRORING THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD I REPRESENT, UH, MR. FORD.IN FACT, I FLOATED ALONG THAT ENABLED HIM TO, UH, TO USE THE MONEY, TO FIX UP THIS PROPERTY.
SO I WANT TO ASK TO BE EXCUSED FROM VOTING ON THIS ISSUE BECAUSE I CAN'T BE UNBIASED.
I MAY HAVE A, THIS IS THE ONE OF THE FIRST ONE WE LOOK AT, WALKED UP.
THIS IS WHAT WAS A BUILDING PERMIT ISSUED BACK IN JUNE JUNIOR LAST YEAR, PROVISIONAL PERMITS.
IT SAYS, MR. I HAVE A BILL COMMITTED.
JILL, NOTHING HAD BEEN DONE TO THE ONES THAT LOST THE STREAK.
YOU'LL SEE, THERE'S A DO NOT INSTALL.
CAN YOU FAST FORWARD INTO WHAT'S CURRENT
DOES ANY COMMENTARY WITH THIS?
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AND THE FIRST THING THAT IT SHOWED US, WHERE YOU PUTTING THE SIDING ON, RIGHT? AND THERE'S NO INSTALLATION BEHIND THE SIDE.
NO,
LET ME, LET ME ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO YOU.
DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DOES? YES, SIR.
AFTER THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION, MR.
HE TOLD HIM HE WAS TOLD THAT IT HAD TO BE
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SO IF HE CAN'T MAKE A MUSEUM ZONING CHANGE, CORRECT.WHAT HE'S SAYING IS IF YOU TALK, IF IT'S A MUSEUM, THEN THE LAW WILL BE STRONG WAY AS IF IT'S A SINGLE DWELLING DWELLING, WHICH YOU POSTED IT TO BE THAT YOU SAY YOU LIVE THERE.
BUT THEY'RE STILL SAYING THIS COVER STALE, THAT THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE DOING ARE NOT RIGHT.
THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CLEAR.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CLEAR.
WHO IS THE CONTRACTOR IN TOWN? NOTHING.
MS. MS. DUDE, THIS IS A QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE A CONTRACT?
EXCUSE ME, MR. FOY, DO YOU HAVE A PLAN? DO YOU HAVE A PHASE PLAN? WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO? HOW YOU GOING TO REBUILD THIS PLACE? OR ARE YOU JUST DOING A PIECE OF MAIL, BUT DO YOU HAVE LET ME JUST ASK YOU THE ONE QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE A PLAN? DO YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT YOU CAN SHOW US WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO TOMORROW? I'M TALKING ABOUT A CONTRACTORS PLANE.
HAVE YOU GIVEN YOUR
WHAT YOU GOING TO DO TOMORROW? WHAT THE NEXT STEP, EACH PHASE OF YOUR RENOVATION SHOULD BE IN A PLANE.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE THAT WRITTEN DOWN? YOU HAVE, I GOT THE PICTURES AND I'VE SEEN THE, BUT WHAT I'M ASKING IS WHAT'S YOUR NEXT STEP? ARE YOU GOING TO, IS YOUR CONTRACTOR GOING TO BE THERE TOMORROW MORNING SHOWING UP THE FOUNDATION? IS HE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE WHOLE BUILDING? WHERE IS YOUR PLAN? I WANT TO SEE A WRITTEN PLAN OR AN ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING OF WHAT YOU PROPOSE TO HAVE IS TOMORROW OR THE END, THE FINISHED STATE.
WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THAT THE HOUSE IS COMPLETELY RENOVATED AND HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE.
YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT DOCUMENT YOUR PROGRESS.
MR. CLARK, DO WE HAVE A PLAN THAT HE IS GOING BY A DOCUMENT TO SHOW WHAT HIS
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PROGRESS SHOULD BE TO GET THE HOUSE UP TO STANDARDS THAT WILL BE APPROVED BY THE CITY CODE.WHAT I HAVE FOR MR. I DON'T CARE, DO SOMETHING ELSE.
THIS IS A SKETCH, A BEAUTIFUL ARTWORK.
WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT SUPPORT THAT SUPPORTS WHAT'S.
YOUR PLAN OF ATTACK IS TO RENOVATE THIS BUILDING.
I'VE SEEN THE BUILDING AND I DON'T WANT TO, UM, EVALUATE YOUR WELL, YOU NEEDED A PLAN.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A SHED OR YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A CASTLE, I'M GOING TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT.
THIS IS NOT, I DON'T KNOW YOU NEED THIS IS NOT A PLAN.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL UH, MR. MADDEN, MADDEN LEE, IF I MAY PLEASE, MR. BOY, IF YOU PAY CLOSE ATTENTION ON THE DATE OF THIS PERMIT WAS ISSUED.
IT WAS ISSUED ON JUNE THE 13TH, 1996, WRITTEN ON THIS PERMIT IN MY OWN HANDWRITING, BECAUSE I DEFINITELY THIS MYSELF, CONDITIONAL ON JOE.
RONALD DOES AN INSPECTION DEALING WITH GIRDERS SCHEDULED FLOOR PLAN STILL NEEDED.
MR. FORD WAS HAND-DELIVERED LETTER.
THIS IS THE LETTER THAT YOU WERE HANDLING OF THE EIGHT ITEMS THAT I ASKED YOU TO SUBMIT TO MY OFFICE AND OTHER.
I ATE YOU HAVE COMPLIED WITH ONE, AND WE HAVE TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER BEFORE WE NEEDED TO HAVE A FLOOR PLAN SHOWING US WHAT YOU WERE PLANNING ON DOING INSIDE THIS HOUSE.
OKAY? I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE TO CARRY THIS ON, BUT, AND THIS IS COME BACK TO HAUNT THIS BOARD BEFORE AND THAT UP.
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS, AND WHAT IT IS, THIS, THIS BOARD AND THE PREVIOUS BOARD I SERVED ON SERVED ON AT TIMES HAD BEEN VERY SYMPATHETIC TO HELP HIM HOLD ON MR. FORD, TO HELPING PEOPLE WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'VE GOT IN TERMS OF GOING AND EXTENDING TIME TO GET THINGS DONE.
THE LAST TIME HE WAS HERE, MR. FORD, WE HAD THAT PRIVILEGE AT THAT TIME TO VOTE, TO DESTROY OR TO REMOVE ALL THREE HOMES.
AT THAT TIME, WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD GIVE YOU TIME TO COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT YOU WAS GOING TO DO AND HOW YOU'S GOING TO DO IT.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID, MR. FORD, WE EVEN MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT POSSIBLY GETTING ONE DONE, AND YOU EVEN MADE A STOP MR. FORD, AND YOU EVEN MADE A STATEMENT.
AND WE EVEN CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT TO DO THE HOMES, THE COST WILL BE TOO MUCH TO BRING THE HOMES BACK UP.
NOW WE ADD APPOINT MR. FORD, WHEREAS IS COME BACK BEFORE US.
AND IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OPERATING IN GOOD FAITH, THEN MR. FOUR FOUR, IT HASN'T BEEN SHOWN BECAUSE THE THINGS THAT HAVE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE, OR I SHOULD SAY AT THE RATE THAT YOU'RE DOING IT.
IF IT'S SHOWING US THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE AHEAD TO HAVE THE JOB DONE IT.
MR. FORD, MR. FORD, I'M STILL TELLING YOU THAT THAT INSPECTION DEPARTMENT IS SAYING THAT THE THING THAT YOU'RE DOING OR NOT, RIGHT.
MR. FORD, THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVEN'T DONE, RIGHT.
I CAN'T, I CANNOT COMPARE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER HOMES HERE IN HERE IN NEW BERN THAT ARE BEING DONE RIGHT IN THEIR NECK.
AND COMPARED TO THE WAY YOU'RE DOING
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THOSE HOMES.I CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW MR. FORD, IF YOU COULD POINT THEM OUT TO MR. FOUR FIVE, BUT HE CAN SHOW ME IN HOME.
THAT IS, IS SIMILAR TO YOURS IN CONDITION AND BEING REMODELED.
AND YOU ARE DOING IT AT THE SAME STANDARD THAT THE OTHER HOMES ARE BEING DONE.
PLEASE SHOW MR. THAT STILL THE INSPECTION DEPARTMENT TO TELL YOU IF IT'S WRONG.
MA'AM MR. FORD, HOW LONG, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO DO THE HOUSE? YOU OWN THAT TO HAVE THE COMPLETE OKAY.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER TWO HOMES?
AND I'M DO A LITTLE OVER HERE.
I GO OVER THERE AND WATER BACK UP.
MR. FORD, THE POINT YOU MADE A FEW MINUTES AGO, WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD POINT, MY OPINION, AND THAT IS WHY SHOULD YOU BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE APPROVED? AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
WAIT, ARE WE DOING, ARE WE DOING YOU A FAVOR BY LETTING YOU TALK US INTO IT, TO, TO PUSHING THIS THING BACK AND GOING AROUND INSPECTION DEPARTMENT, AND THEN YOU SPEND MORE MONEY ON IT AND IT'S STILL NOT BEING DONE.
RIGHT? SO YOU'RE JUST SPENDING MORE MONEY AND DO SOMETHING.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO STOP GOING TO BE A SINGLE DWELLING HOME.
THEY SAY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A MUSEUM.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT IS WELL, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
I'D LIKE TO SEE YOUR HOUSE, WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE.
WHAT HAPPENED? IN FACT, IF ANYBODY EVEN TRIED TO, WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT MY NOSE MUST BE STOPPED UP, BECAUSE IF I COULD SENSE IT, BELIEVE ME, IT WOULD COME TO A SCREECHING HALT.
WE WANT THE HOUSE TO SUCCEED PROBABLY WORSE THAN YOU DO, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT.
BUT WHAT MUST WE DO WHEN WE HAVE LAWS FOR EVERYBODY AND WE HAVE, AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, WE WANT TO DO IT.
I HATE, I MEAN, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT DOES ME PERSONALLY, TO LOOK AT ME AND SEE WHAT YOU'VE SPENT MONEY.
AND THE SOMETHING IS NOT GOING UP.
I MEAN, IT GIVES ME A SINKING FEELING.
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? WELL, LET ME TELL YOU THIS.
WE'RE NOT TRAINED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, BUT OUR INSPECTION DEPARTMENT IS TRAINED TO DO THAT AND THEY HAVE LAWS AND THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW BY.
SO IT'S NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME, TO A DOCTOR.
HE MAY LOOK AT SOMEBODY AND THEY'RE VERY SICK AND THEY MAY LOOK VERY WELL TO ME, BUT I'M NOT TRAINED IN THAT.
THEY HAVE GIVEN YOU SOME SORT OF, UH, UH, RECIPE, SO TO SPEAK OF THINGS THAT ARE WRONG RIGHT HERE.
AND THEY HAVEN'T, YOU DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
AND YOU KNOW, AT LEAST UNTIL YOU WOULD COME BACK AND I GUESS THIS PORCH DECK AND NOT TREAT IT ALL ROTTED WOOD TO BE REMOVED.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK.
I DON'T PERSONALLY KNOW WHEN YOU GET THOSE LANES GUNS, WHEN YOU TALK THEM, THEY COME UP HERE AND CHECK
BUT YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING, YOU KNOW, MEAN TODAY, MS.
I NEVER KNEW THAT THEY HAD THIS THING GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
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HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU HAVE NEEDED? 30 DAYS.Y IN A MINUTE, Y'ALL MO MORE FROM ME WITH A SITUATION THAN I AM.
SO LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION TO INSPECT.
THE FIRST STEP MET YOU DONE MR. FOUR, YOU GONE IN, AND YOU SAID YOU'VE LEVELED THE HOUSE AND YOU PUT IT AND YOU PUT, WHAT IS IT CALLED? OKAY.
LET ME ASK, LET ME ASK YOU INSPECTOR JOHNNY, WHAT HE DID AND WHAT HE HAS DONE.
WAS IT DONE? CORRECT? THE INTERIOR PORTION OF THE HOUSE WHERE VOTERS ARE GOING TO BE SITTING AND NOT SAY
LET'S ASSUME THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, JOHNNY AND THE OUTER PEERS ARE NOT CORRECT.
WHY WOULD HE HAVE TO DO TO CORRECT? JUST TO GIVE ME, GIVE US AN EXAMPLE.
THERE IS NO RESOLUTION TO THIS TONIGHT.
WE CAN GO ON LIKE THIS WITH EVERYBODY FUSSING AT EVERYONE AND SAYING, HE'S WRONG, HE'S WRONG, HE'S WRONG, HE'S WRONG? AND IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS CONSTRUCTION THAT DOES NOT MEET THE STATE BUILDING CODES.
THERE ARE NO CITY BUILDING CODES.
THEY'RE ALL STATE BUILDING CODES ENFORCED BY THE CITY BY LAW.
THE QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE GOING TO FUSS AT EACH OTHER BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AS TO WHAT OUR NEXT STEP IS.
WE'RE NOT SOLVING ANY PROBLEMS BY JUST CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES AND YELLING.
UH, WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BECAUSE THERE'S NO POINT IN JUST EVERYBODY SITTING HERE AND GETTING THEIR FEATHERS.
IT'S NOT ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING.
YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING, THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG.
YOU HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING NEGATIVE AND NOT KNOWING SOMETHING AND WRITE SOMETHING.
SOMETIME I WOULD AGREE THAT I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE SPENDING THE MONEY IF YOU DIDN'T THINK IT WAS RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT WOULDN'T BUT GIANT YOU SAY YOU DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS, IS DOING HIS WORK.
AND THE STATE REQUIRE LICENSED CONTRACTORS TO BUILD HOUSES.
DO WE HAVE THE FIRE SAFETY CODES THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH? IF SOMEONE ELSE WAS BUILDING THIS HOUSE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF THIS HOUSE WANTED TO BE RENOVATED OR REHAB AND SOMEBODY WENT INTO DO IT, WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED? WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A LICENSED CONTRACTOR? WOULD THEY BE CRIED TO HAVE A BLUEPRINT? WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW A CERTAIN FIRE AND HEALTH AND SAFETY HAZARDS IN RELATION TO WHAT MR. FORD IS TALKING ABOUT IN RELATION TO WALT BELLAMY? RIGHT?
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IF HE WAS GOING TO BE A SINGLE FAMILY, WILLIE AND MR. FORD, IF HE WAS GOING TO LIVE THERE, HE CAN OBTAIN THE BUILDING PERMIT.HE CAN ATTAIN THE ELECTRICAL PERMIT, THE PLUMBING PERMIT, AND THE HPAC PERMIT.
NOW, NOW HE CAN STILL GET THE BUILDING PERMIT, BUT IF HE'S NOT GOING TO DO THE ELECTRICAL, THE PLUMBING AND HPAC WORK, HE HAS TO HIRE LICENSED CONTRACTORS.
THAT'S THE LICENSING LAWS OF THE STATE OF THE MORE CROP
YEAH, LIKE I SAID WAS FOR WE'VE ALL SAID AS MUCH AS WE CAN SAY ON THIS SITUATION, THERE'S NOTHING MORE WE CAN ADD ANYTHING FURTHER.
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY MOTIONS? IDEAS? SUGGESTIONS IS JULIUS
UH, BRO, CAN WE ASK THAT MR. FOY COME BACK IN 30 DAYS WITH A PLAN AND A CERTIFIED CONTRACTOR THAT'S CAPABLE OF DOING THE WORK.
WOULD THAT BE A REASONABLE, UH, MR. MAN, THAT'S THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA.
BUT PREVIOUS PROVES THAT MR. FORD MADE A STATEMENT THAT HE WASN'T ABLE TO DO THE JOB ON THE HOUSE AS FAST AS WE WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO DO, BECAUSE HE WAS WORKING BECAUSE HE WAS WORKING, I GUESS, AT HIS PACE.
60 DAYS, SIX MONTHS, SIX MONTHS LED TO SIX MONTHS THEN A YEAR NOW.
YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT WHAT, MR. MR. FINE, MR. FORD, WE'RE STILL RIGHT BACK TO THE SAME THING.
THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING ARE NOT RIGHT.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THESE JIM WAS SAYING.
THAT'S STATE COLE, MR. PAUL LEMME, LEMME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE PROPER PROCEDURE FOR SOMEBODY WHO DISAGREES? WE CAN'T OVERRULE INTERPRETATION OF A STATE LAW.
SO IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T AGREE WITH IT, WHETHER IT'S AN INSPECTOR RULING, WHAT IS THE CHAIN OF COMMAND THAT INCLUDES US? IT GOES TO THE COMMISSIONER OF INSURANCE IN ROCK.
WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, HE'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH INSPECTION, WHICH WE CAN'T OVERRULE IT, THAT MAN'S HOUSE.
LIKE YOU NEED TO BE TAKING THAT UP WITH THEM MAY OR MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION? ALL RIGHT.
I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST, AND I WOULD INVITE ANY LICENSED HOMANS, BUT, OR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO GO AROUND NOW AND LOOK AT THE DEFECTS THAT WE'RE POINTING OUT.
AND IF THAT STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THAT IS LICENSED BY THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, PASSES IT OUT, PASS IT.
AND NORMALLY YOU DON'T GET YOU IN BARGAIN.
I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT HE WON'T KNOW WHO HE IS OR WHATEVER, BY SOMEBODY DEFINITION.
BUT, UH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REASONABLE, UH THAT WE CAN'T, THAT WON'T WORK.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T, IF THE INSPECTOR WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO, TO, TO JUDGE THE WORK SAYS
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IT DOESN'T MAKE THE STATE CODE.WE AS A BOARD, CAN'T OVERRULE THE STATE LONG THAT'S RIGHT? YEAH.
MR. BODIES AND THINGS HE POINTED OUT TO YOU TODAY.
REGARDLESS OF THE DECISION THAT YOU MAKE TONIGHT, IF YOU DECIDE TO WAIT, 30 DAYS, 60 DAYS, SIX MONTHS DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
I AM GOING TO BE OBLIGATED BY STATE BUILDING CODE GENERAL STATUTE 1 68 DASH 4 21 IN THE MORNING TO GO AROUND AND PUT UP A STOP WORK ORDER BECAUSE OF WORK IS NOT BEING DONE PROPERLY.
AND UNTIL IT'S BEEN DONE PROPERLY AND HE IS SUBMITTED TO OUR OFFICE, ACCORDING TO THE NORTH CAROLINA STATE BUILDING CODE, THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED NO MORE WORK CAN PROGRESS THERE ANYWAY.
SO WE CAN JUST TABLE IT FOR 30 DAYS LIKE MR. MATT.
AND HE SAID, YOU STILL GOING TO HAVE TO DO YOUR THING TOMORROW, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY I JUST HEARD WE HAVE A SECOND.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT HAT ON, UH, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU CONTACT THE STATE INSURANCE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT NEXT PEOPLE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
WELL, WE'VE MADE A MOTION AND HAS BEEN SECONDED THAT WE TABLE THIS FOR 30 DAYS AND WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS FOR 30 DAYS, AS FAR AS DEMOLISHING THE HOUSE AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR IS GONE.
HE'S JUST SAYING, HE'S GOING TO DO WHAT HE'S GOT TO DO TOMORROW AND ASK TO GIVE YOU A STOP WORK ORDER UNTIL YOU CORRECT ALL THAT STUFF, I GUESS AND YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE LATER.
I GAVE YOU ORIGINALLY, DO I HEAR ABOUT WHAT DO WE NEED FOR THAT?
WE CAN'T AGREE TO ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T MEET STATE LAW.
YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE DONE IN 30 DAYS ON THIS.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL WHEN YOU SEEN
BUT WHEN THE INSPECTOR TOLD THEM IT WAS WRONG, THEY HAD TO FIX IT.
AND SO THE LAW IS GOING TO BE, THE LAW HELPS.
WE GOT, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO, AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, APPLIED AS MUCH COMPASSION AS WE CAN'T BELIEVE BECAUSE HE WANTS TO, HE WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
AND SO WHAT'S THE NAME I CAME DOWN HERE THE FIRST TWO TIMES, I GUESS IT LOOKS IMPORTANT.
AND THE LAST CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD DOWN HERE WAS THAT IF HE ARE STARTED AND GOT THAT FOUNDATION STABLE, THAT HE HAD ALMOST INDEFINITE TIME TO PUT IT TOGETHER.
IT DIDN'T W WHERE I SEE THE PROBLEM IS TO ME IS THAT THE WORK HAS BEEN SPENT A LITTLE BIT AROUND THE SIZE AND UP TO THE TOP, WHEN IT
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SHOULD BE FOCUSED, MOSTLY ON THE FOUNDATION THAT THOUGHT I WAS MAKING THE HOUSE STABLE AND THEN WORK FROM THERE.OTHER THAN THAT, THAT WAS AN IDEAL THAT I THOUGHT THAT HE HAD.
AND WHEN I HAD TALKED TO HIM AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS MISSED IN THE CONVERSATION THAT'S BEEN GOING ON ALL THE TIME, NOBODY EVEN MENTIONED THE INDEFINITE PART BECAUSE HE HAS TO GET THE FOUNDATION STARTED.
NOW HE GET THE FOUNDATION, STARTED TO START SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON THE OTHER THINGS THAT I SEE THAT ARE DOING.
I'M NOT SUPERVISING THE WORK THAT MR. FARR.
AND I HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED THAT OFTEN.
AND I COME DOWN HERE TONIGHT BY FAITH.
DID HE KNOW IT WAS DOWN HERE? BUT RIGHT NOW THE BIG THING IS, WAS, AND IT WOULD GO RIGHT BACK TO THE SAME THING.
THAT'S I THINK WE'VE IN THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE HAD A POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ENGINEER TO DO THE INSPECTION, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS NOT BIASED DECISION.
THE MAN, THE MAN SAID LICENSED IN THE STATE OF
WE HAVE TO POOL THE THING ON, WE HAVE STOPPED THE DEMOLITION OF YOUR HOUSE AND BREAK SOME KIND OF 38 RESOLUTION ON ME AT THIS POINT.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WHEN YOU A SALESMAN, SOMETIMES YOU CAN SELL THE THING AND THEN WHEN THEY WANT TO BUY IT, BUT IF YOU KEEP ON GOING, THEY MIGHT CHANGE THEIR MIND.
IT'S GOTTEN TO THAT POINT WHERE WE SAID ABOUT ALL WE CAN SAY ON THAT THING FOR LIFE.
I THINK SO, IF YOU WOULD, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND WORK ON THE THINGS THAT HE'S GIVEN YOU TO DO.
AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS YOU CALL INSPECTIONS AND GET THEM DOWN AND LET THEM TAKE A LOOK AS YOU'RE GOING ALONG BEFORE YOU SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT AIN'T GOING TO AGREE WITH, OR ARE YOU GOING TO END UP SPENDING A BUNCH OF MONEY, WHICH I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU DO ON THE HOUSE? WE'LL MOVE ON.
GEORGE, YOU ALL MAY WANT TO DELAY THAT 30 DAYS ALSO.
WAS THAT THE SAME SITUATION? YES.
WELL, LET'S JUST WAIT 30 ON THAT ONE.
WAIT, 30 DAYS ON THE OTHER ONE TOO.
UNLESS THEY HAVE SOME RESOLUTION ON THESE THINGS.
BUT DO YOU RESPOND IF, IF, UH, SOMEBODY SAY, AS BILL SAYS, THEY WANT AN INSPECTOR TO COME OUT AT ANY PARTICULAR STAGE AND JUST CALL THEM OUT AND SAY, IS THIS GOING RIGHT? YEAH, WE, WE GO AND AT ANY TIME DID ANYBODY CALL US? WE'VE GOT SO YOU WILL.
IF HE, IF HE'S GOT A QUESTION, WELL, I KNOW YOU DO.
I JUST DON'T WANT A MAN TO SPEND HIS MONEY.
AND THEN WE RIDE BACK IN THE SAME LOOP BECAUSE TO ME, WHEN HE SPENT HIS MONEY, THAT IS A STEP BEYOND WHERE HE WAS DOING NOTHING, YOU KNOW, BEFORE NOTHING WAS HAPPENING.
AND IT WAS TALKING ABOUT DOING THINGS.
SO THAT, TO ME SHOWS SOME FAITH THAT HE'S TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
SO THE SAD PART IS EVIDENTLY IT'S NOT BEING DONE AS IT CAN.
AND MR. MAYOR, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID AT ALL, BUT AT THE VERY SAME TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PROBATE FILES OVER THERE ON A DAILY BASIS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
I UNDERSTAND IF I HAD TIME TO GO BY AND SEE MR. FOIL ON A DAILY BASIS AND TELL HIM WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
IF HE SAYS THAT HE DIDN'T CALL YOU TO LOOK AT SOMETHING FOR AN EXAMPLE.
AND THAT'S WHY IT ENDED UP, MAN, HE HAD TO COME.
AND THEN YOU CAME AT THE END OF THE JOB AFTER HE BUILT THE THING.
I WANT HIM TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT IF HE HAD A QUESTION GOING ALONG AND HE COULD PICK UP THE PHONE AND SOMEBODY WOULD COME DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND IF HE DOESN'T CALL AND IT'D BE DOCUMENTED THAT HE GOES, AND THAT AIN'T MY PROBLEM.
I GUARANTEE IF YOU CALL, WE WILL SET UP A TIME TO MEET WITH MR. FORD MAY NOT BE THAT VERY HOUR THAT MR. FOY, I UNDERSTAND,
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BUT WE WILL SET UP A TIME TO MEET WITH MR. FOY WITHIN MOST OF THE TIME, 24 HOURS.AND THEN THE MAIN TIME I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU, WHOEVER YOU GET TO DO THE WORK OVERSEE THE WORK LET ME TELL YOU.
HE HAS GOTTEN TO, THE POINT IS WORKING ON ME NOW.
THANK YOU, MIKE MISTAKEN MAYOR, BECAUSE I SEEN NO EVIDENCE OF THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN HALF, BUT DON'T MOVE ON TO THAT.
THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS.
WHAT HAVE WE GOT NEXT APPOINTMENTS.
NEXT THING WE HAVE
DO YOU HAVE ANY APPOINTMENTS IN TWO APPOINTMENTS? MISDEMEANORS, MS. MANN, THE BOARD.
I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A NOMINATION FOR THE NEW BERN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
I'D LIKE TO REAPPOINT MS. JENNIFER KNIGHT, WHO IS CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD.
WE WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT HER FOR THE NEXT THREE-YEAR TERM.
AND, UH, SHE COMES WELL RECOMMENDED.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE HER FOR THAT POSITION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
UH, FOR THE NEW BERN APPEARANCE COMMISSION, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MRS. JULIE HIPS, 3 0 1 JOHNSON STREET IN NEW BERN.
SHE IS, UH, UH, RECOMMENDED BY STAN LETTUCE, WHO WAS CHAIRING THAT COMMISSION SINCE I DIDN'T GET ANYBODY FROM THE, UH, FOURTH WARD, UH, THIS LADY SUGGESTED THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO DO THE JOB.
SO I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE HER FOR THAT.
NO ONE IN FAVOR, SAY HI, I WANT TO POSE MS. LEE.
THEY WON'T LET ME HAVE ANY, I KNOW I'M HONESTLY, I'M TOO.
NO, SIR IS MISCELLANEOUS MR. MATH, NO SHIRT JUST TO FREE, UH, JUST A REGULAR MEETING OF THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER TASKFORCE TODAY OF WHICH I'M A MEMBER.
AND WE'RE REALLY NOW JUST PUTTING TOGETHER HOW THE REPRESENTATION WILL BE ON THAT BOARD.
SO THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO REPORT AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE THAT SETUP.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF REQUESTS RECENTLY ABOUT THE STATUS OF YOUR SWIMMING POOL, AND I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE STATUS SO I CAN LET PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THEY ASKED ME, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE PLANS ARE IN A BAND SETS.
THE, UM, THE CHIEF ISSUE CAME AT ME.
ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO DO? YEAH.
MIKE HAS, UH, IN FRONT, ON GEORGE HEADING INTO MORE RESPONSE FROM THE GYM QUEEN AND PALMER STREET.
UM, WHAT WERE YOU DEALING WITH THAT WEEK? YEAH, WE ASKED THE MAYOR TO COME, NOT THE MAYOR.
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WE ASKED MR. WARD TWO LETTER OF NOTICE TELLING HIM THAT WE DID NOT AGREE WITH WHAT WAS BEING DONE AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.HE IS NOT RESPONDING IN RELATION TO THAT LETTER IS WE HAD ASSUMED THAT HE'S NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO GO.
THERE'S BEEN APPROXIMATELY THREE WEEKS.
AND THE OTHER DAY WHEN I WAS TALKING TO MR. WARD IN RELATION TO THIS WHILE MISS DAVEY WAS OUT OF TOWN AT A SEMINAR, I INSTRUCTED MR. WARD, MR. AVERY'S PERMISSION, OF COURSE, TO GO AHEAD AND DO WHATEVER HAD TO BE DONE.
AND HE IS WORKING ON FILING SUIT AGAINST DEMAND, MAN, TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE.
I MEAN, ANYBODY GOT A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
UH, THERE WILL BE A PRESENTATION TOMORROW NIGHT AT 7:00 PM AND THE TRUNK COUNTLESS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD INITIATIVES PROGRAM.
WE'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE ALL BOARD MEMBERS TO ATTEND.
UH, THIS IS THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND MANY, MANY CITIZENS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
UH, AND THE NORTH CAROLINA STATE SCHOOL OF DESIGN.
UH, ONE OF THE TOOLS WE USED IS COMPUTER ENERGY, UH, TO PRODUCE A BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURE.
AND AT THE PRESENTATION WRESTLERS DENIED, I WOULD SAY IT WAS VERY
HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO, UH, JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT THE BRIDGE IN.
SO WE COULD ACTUALLY, I MEAN, WE'LL KNOW WHAT THE BRIDGE IS, THE ONLY ONE LIGHT, BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BRIDGE WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH COMPUTER, THE 3D VIEW.
SO TO SPEAK OF LOOKING OUT FROM MEDIAN POINT, SEEING THE BRIDGE AND BACK MEAN, WELL, THE BRIDGE DESIGN THAT THEY LOOKED AT, HE ASKED ME NOT TO CONSIDER THAT POT BASICALLY SAID THAT THIS WAS
AND WHAT WE FOUND IS QUITE THE CONTRARY AFTER WORKING WITH NC STATE, TECHNOLOGY'S FAIRLY, UH, AFFORDABLE NOW.
AND THEN BASICALLY IT'S A MATTER OF TAKING IMAGES AND THEN TAKING THE DESIGN AND LIGHTERING MAPS.
UM, BUT IT WASN'T TECHNOLOGY RECENTLY PORTABLE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE.
REALISTICALLY, EVERYTHING IS VERY EXPENSIVE WHEN THE STATE DOES IT.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE NICE JUST TO SEE ROUND NUMBERS, HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A POWERFUL TOOL.
AND THEN WE COULD ADD THE CONVENTION CENTER WHEN THEY GET A PLAN FOR IT AND REALLY SEE HOW THINGS ARE PENDING.
WE HAVE IN OUR BUDGETS SUBMISSION TO THE BOARD ABOUT THE HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE TO DO THAT LOCALLY.
AND IT'S VERY AFFORDABLE AND THE FOLKS THAT NCD OR GREG AND MYSELF AND ANYONE ELSE WE WISH TO OPERATE THOSE SO THAT WE COULD DEVELOP THAT CAPACITY LOCALLY AND BE ABLE TO START PUTTING IN SOME OF THESE CHANGES THAT, OKAY, GOOD.
I PUT IT HERE JUST TO SHOW YOU
IF YOU COULD MAKE IT SHORT, GO AHEAD.
MOVING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN A PROBLEM EVER SINCE I BEEN THERE AND THIS IS A, THIS IS A DAILY SITUATION FOR ME AND I MAKE IT A DAILY SITUATION
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FOR HIM.PEOPLE LOOK, I RIDE THROUGH TODAY AND I RIDE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT TREE LIMBS HANGING AS DIRT IS TRASH.
I WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING WE CAN DO YOU SEE THIS? THIS IS MY THEORY ABOUT GOVERNMENT AND I INVOLVEMENT.
AND THAT IS THAT WE WORK HAND IN HAND THE COMMUNITY AND THE GOVERNMENT WORK HAND IN HAND AND DOING THINGS TO IMPROVE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO COULD GO EVERY DAY.
AS MUCH AS IT RAIN HERE TO EVALUATE LOTS.
WE ENABLE PEOPLE CALL ME, I'LL CALL YOU.
I'LL CALL ANYBODY AND TELL US THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.
AND WHEN YOU SEND IT OUT, THERE IS STILL A PROCEDURE.
CAUSE IF YOU IT'S YOUR PROPERTY ON MY PROPERTY, WE ALL HAVE RIGHTS.
SO WHAT WE DO THEN IS ALLOW 15 DAYS FOR YOU TO RESPOND AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
IF NOT, THEN THE CITY WILL GO IN AND DO IT AND TAKE A LIEN AGAINST YOUR PROPERTY.
AND BY THE TIME WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND GOT IT CLEANED UP, THEN IT RAINS IN THE TRASH, RIGHT? AND BACK AGAIN.
SO THIS IS A REAL GIANT PROBLEM FOR ME.
I WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO THAT I COULD DO, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I REPRESENT THE MOTIVATE THE CITIZENS THERE TO TAKE MORE PAIN WITH THE KINDS OF THINGS THEY DID JUST LAST WEEK.
I HAD TO HAVE MR. MEADOWS AS MR. MELLON.
I WANT YOU TO GO TO THAT HOUSE, VIOLATE THOSE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS AND CLEAN THAT MESS UP OFF THAT STREET BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S RIDICULOUS.
IT'S UNFAIR TO EVEN THINK THAT PEOPLE LIVE LIKE THAT.
AND HE AND I SAID, AND TAKE A LIEN AGAINST THAT PROPERTY OWNER WHO PROBABLY DOES NOT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHOEVER WITS, IT DON'T LIVE THERE.
DANNY CALLED THE GENTLEMAN, THE GENTLEMAN DIDN'T TAKE AN ACTION.
SO WE CONSIDERED AN IMMINENT THREAT AND WE CLEANED IT UP.
THE HOLIDAY WAS COMING RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER EAST ROAD STREET AT 10.
I'M ABOUT LIKE YOU ARE, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, WHO THAT GO AROUND THE STREET IS ROSE STREET.
I SAID, DAMN PUMP THAT WE CLEANED THAT STUFF UP OVER THERE.
EAST ROSE STREET, SOMEBODY EMPTIES A HOUSE AND THERE ARE NO MORE HOUSES.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS TRASH IS COMING FROM, BUT I EMPTY IT RIGHT THERE AND NOBODY PICK IT UP.
SO I PERSONALLY THINK THAT LANDOWNERS IN THESE HOUSES OUGHT TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
AND I MEAN, LAST YEAR WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WHO WERE RENTING THEIR HOMES IN NEIGHBORHOODS FELT THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY.
YOU GO, GIRL, YOU GO, GIRL, I GET REALLY EMOTIONAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, YEAH, WE'RE TRYING.
MAYBE SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS NEED LEAD TO FORM SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
LIKE SOME OTHERS HAVE AND GET SOME NEIGHBORHOOD PRIDE.
AND THEN WITH PEER PRESSURE, BECAUSE GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, JUST ON THAT NOTE, I MOVE, WE ADJOURN ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
NOW LET'S SIT AROUND AND SHOUT AT EACH OTHER.