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          AND MY CHEAT SHEET. 
          YOU ARE TOM, YOU WERE IN THE RIGHT SEAT. 
          MIGHT AS WELL CALL IT AN ORDER, I GUESS, RIGHT? THE ORDER THEM RIGHT ALONG THE MANNY COOPER, I'M GOING TO START ON THIS CHART HERE. 
          I WAS CALLING MY DAUGHTER TO BE HUMMING AND COMING FOR THE TONIGHT FATHER TO DO BUSINESS IN YOUR NAME, FATHER, THEY HAVE THE SPECIAL BLESSING FATHER BOY, TONIGHT, FATHER GOD, TO DIRECT THEM IN THE WAY THEY SHOULD GO. 
          BUT FATHER THAT THEY MAY MAKE DECISION THAT WILL AFFECT ALL PEOPLES THAT THEY MAY BE CONCERNED WITH EACH ONE OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY AND THE CITIZEN ALL OVER THE WORLD. 
          FATHER ME HAVE A SPECIAL BLESSING FATHER FOR THE MINISTERS EVERYWHERE THAT DON'T REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THIS BOARD TO ACT IN YOUR BEHALF, BECAUSE YOU TOLD US THAT WE SHOULD OBEY THE LAWS OF THE LAND OR FATHER GUIDE AND DIRECT US IN THE WAY THAT WE ALL SHOULD GO. 
          WE ASK THESE OTHER BLESSING IN JESUS' NAME. 
          WE PRAY CONDUCT DONE YOU MAN. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I'LL BE FINE. 
          WE'LL CALL THE ROAD HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE. 
          WELL, THE NEXT THING IS A REQUEST AND PETITIONS OF CITIZENS. 
          I NOTICED NOBODY HERE. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON MY LEFT. 
          YEAH. 
          LET'S START ON THE FRONT. 
          WE'RE OVER WORK BACK. 
          SO, UH, SHALL WE GO LEFT OR RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO LEFT. 
          LEFT OR RIGHT. 
          WHO'S TO ANYBODY ON THAT END. 
          OKAY. 
          COME FOR STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU DRESS AND THAT'S FINE. 
          THAT'S SOME INFORMATION I NEED TO PASS. 
           GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS KATHY RAMSDALE AND I'M THE SAFETY DIRECTOR WITH MAIL, A MILK AND ICE CREAM COMMENT. 
          MY PURPOSE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE GRAND OPENING CELEBRATION WE HAVE PLANNED FOR OUR HEALTH. 
          THIS IS SCHEDULED FOR SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 25TH. 
          FROM ONE UNTIL SIX, WE WILL BE, COULD BE HOT DOGS, BARBECUE SANDWICHES. 
          WE WILL BE PROVIDING ENTERTAINMENT, FACE PAINTING FOR THE CHILDREN. 
          WE WILL HAVE CLOGGERS GOSPEL SING. 
          WE WILL HAVE CLOWNS AND OUR OWN NEW WELL, THE COW WILL BE PRESENT. 
          WE WILL BE PROVIDING RODS FOR THE CHILDREN AS WELL AS MUSIC BY WSF FAIL. 
          YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, A DRAWING, WHICH WILL GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF THE LAYOUT. 
          WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR OUR ACTIVITIES BEFORE WE CONTINUED WITHOUT PLANS MAY HOLD WANTS TO BE SURE WE ARE PROCEEDING WITH WITHIN THE ORDINANCES AND GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY THE CITY FOR AN ACTIVITY SUCH AS THIS APPROVAL REQUEST FOR ACTIVITY PERMIT, WE ARE ASKING TO CLOSE ALL AVENUE, CITY FROM 1230 UNTIL SEVEN ON SUNDAY, THE 25TH. 
          WE FEEL THAT BY CLOSING OFF AVENUE C, WE WILL BE BETTER ABLE TO CONTROL THE CROWDS PROPERTY AND THEREBY DISTURB OUR NEIGHBORS AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. 
          WE ARE PREPARED FOR POLICE ASSISTANCE AS WELL AS EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR THE DAY. 
          AND YOU ALSO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WITH AN INVITATION TO ATTEND THE CEREMONY. 
          AND IT IS MY HOPE THAT YOU WILL JOIN US FOR THE DAY. 
          WE ARE PLANNING UP QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. 
          I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THOSE. 
          I LIED TO ASK, WELL, WHAT IS THIS EATING CONTEST, MR. MAYOR. 
          NOW, WAIT A MINUTE. 
          IF IT'S ICE CREAM, I'LL TAKE ON THE WORLD CHAMPION. 
          WE ARE LOOKING FOR PARTICIPANTS. 
          I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT ICE CREAM EATING CONTEST. 
          WE ARE HAVING A BUBBLE BLOWING CONTEST. 
          WE ARE HAVING A MILK MUSTACHE CONTENTS. 
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NO, I'VE EATEN UP ON THE PLUG AND HE BOUGHT IT AND THEN I'LL EAT ENOUGH MAIL OR MILK AND ICE CREAM OVER THE YEARS. 
          I DON'T EVEN WANT MY DAUGHTER. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TRACKS. 
          I KNOW THAT'S THE TRUTH, BUT I'M SERIOUS. 
          I DON'T WANT IT. 
          I MEAN, IS IT ICE CREAM EATING? IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? WHEREAS ALL YOU NEED IN THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, OR IF I'M STILL EATING, WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE HAS GONE, WE CAN STILL TO EAT SOME ICE UNTIL SERIOUSLY. 
          I HAVE FREEZER BURN INSIDE OF MY MOUTH. 
          SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. 
          WELL, I NEED TO GET EMULATE. 
          I THINK I'LL WATCH. 
          READY TO DO IT. 
          I BELIEVE I CAN ADD. 
          I'VE GOT A QUESTION. 
          WHAT ABOUT NORTH CRAVE OF THE STREET? ARE YOU GOING TO LEAVE IT OPEN? YEAH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT WILL REMAIN OPENING. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL USE THE POLICE ASSISTANCE TO HELP WITH THE CROWDS. 
          SO YOU WANT TO CLOSE IT BETWEEN CRAVEN AVENUE C CLOSED BETWEEN AND NATIONAL AVENUE OR THAT STREET IN BETWEEN NORTH PASTURES, CRESPI. 
          GRANTED. 
          HI, WHAT RESIDENCES ARE THERE ON THAT STREET TO HAVE CURIOSITY, WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THIS LATE. 
          NO, SIR, WE HAVE IT, BUT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. 
          OKAY. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT COULD GROW WITH MY SISTERS, MY AREA, I HAVE TALKED WITH SOMEONE FROM MALE AND, UM, THE RESIDENTS, THE NEXT COMMUNITY HAVE THE REGULAR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON THURSDAY NIGHT. 
          AND THERE'S THIS RAMP SILL DALE DOWN IS GOING TO MEET WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO OBJECTIONS. 
          BUT, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WOULD BE A PROBLEM. 
          WHAT WE DID DISCUSS. 
          BOBBY ASKED THEM THIS AND THAT AREA DISCUSSED THAT OUR RIVERSIDE CHURCH THAT'S OUT AT 12 AND RATHER THAN FROM 12 CLOSE THE STREET AT 12 CLOSE AT 1232 ALLOW CHURCH GOAL IS TO GET THROUGH. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A MOTION THAT THEY REQUEST TO BE GRANTED. 
          I GOT IT. 
          MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THAT RECOMMENDATION FROM A DADDY? UCF, DANNY AND, UH, BOBBY. 
          THOSE ARE TWO GENTLEMEN THAT THAT'LL PROBABLY BE MORE INVOLVED THAN WE ARE. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          COUGH. 
          OF COURSE. 
          YES. 
          ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE SERVING SO MANY, YOU GIVEN AWAY UM, BUT ARE YOU GIVING AWAY HOT DOGS AND BARBECUE SANDWICHES? ARE YOU SELLING? I WAS GOING TO SAY A THOUSAND PEOPLE AND YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ALL THAT AWAY. 
          I'M ON CAM, JUST TO WATCH THAT STEAM LESBIAN MOTION HAS BEEN A SOCKET THERE'S HAS BEEN SOME STOMACH GRUMBLING AND I GUESS IT'S TIME FOR THE SPECIFIC REQUEST. 
          I'M GETTING THIS GIFT VIA VOICE. 
          YES. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED. 
          NO, SHE'S ACCEPTED THE MOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. 
          I GUESS BOBBY, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY. 
          DAN IS JUST DREAMING ABOUT HOW EATING CONTEST, MR. SAMPSON'S ALREADY SPOKED. 
          SO I THINK IT WILL BE DOWN TO COUSIN BLONDE. 
          THE WEDDING I'LL BE NEXT. 
          SO YOU MIGHT COME FORWARD. 
           NO, THIS IS NOT THE MAIN ISSUE. 
          ONE OF THE ISSUES WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT, SOMEONE'S STREET GOING TOWARDS, IF YOU DRIVE AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, WHEN YOU COME IN EITHER WAY FROM RUTH CHAPTER, THE CHURCH, FROM THE CREEK AND GET SOMEONE TO SPEAK TO THE MICRO LAYER, YOU CANNOT TELL IF A CAR'S COMING THIS WAY, ALL CAUSE COMING THIS WAY ON SEVENTH STREET, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO TURN TO GET ON SEVENTH STREET AND GO TO SO DARK AND YOUR LIGHTS GO OUT A FLAT WHEN YOUR CALL TELLS ME HOW YOU GET IT RIGHT AS A DIRECT STREAM, JUST THIS SIDE OF THE STREET AND EDDIE OR SOME , BUT IT'S DARK IN THIS AREA HERE WHERE YOU SHOOT THE LIGHT IS ON SEVENTH STREET, RIGHT AFTER YOU GET OFF OF HIM AND YOU NEED BACK ME UP AND GET THE BEER. 
          I LIKE THAT TO BE DONE AT POSSIBLE. 
          AND THIS IS A SOUL SEVEN CALLED I HEARD DISCUSSED ON THE BOARD OF THE LIVE IN HANCOCK AND PAUL I SOONER 
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OR LATER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BAD WRECK BY TAKING THAT LIGHT AND CLOSING OFF BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP THERE TO THE STOP SIGN. 
          YOU GOT TO STOP BRIAN TOWARDS THE MIDDLE STREET. 
          IF THERE'S A VAN OR A TRUCK OR ANYTHING, YOU CANNOT SEE ANYTHING COMING FROM DOWNTOWN OUT THIS WAY. 
          AND THEREFORE HERE, THE MAN, HE IS TALKING TO THE STOP SIGN AND HE THINKS EVERYTHING'S ALL RIGHT. 
          NOW HE COMES OUT AND HE HAS BEEN ABOUT FOUR CLOSE WRECKS. 
          AND THE LAST TWO WEEKS NOW I DON'T TELL HIM IT'S GOING TO COST A LOT OF LIGHT BACK. 
          AND I THINK THE LIGHT THAT IN THE LONG RUN IS GOING TO SAY PERFECT, CAUSE I'M DOWN AT FIVE OR SIX TIMES A DAY, BUT I STILL HANDCUFFED. 
          THAT'S THE WAY GOING DOWN TO THE RICHEST. 
          AWFUL DR. 
          RICHMOND, ALL I'M GOING TO WEAR THAT. 
          SAY WHERE THE SERVICE THEY GOT. 
          SO NOW HERE YOU GOT, YOUR CAR SAID HERE, MAN JUMPED UP AND STOPPED SIGNING THE SCHEME  SO HE COMES OUT AND HIT AND THEY'RE ALL OFF THE TOP OF THE HEATER. 
          AND I SAT THERE AND WATCHED THEM SEVERAL TIMES. 
          I KNOW HE DIDN'T. 
          AND I KNOW OF COURSE YOU'RE PUTTING IT BACK. 
          BLACK STATE THEY'RE THINK, EXCUSE ME A MINUTE. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT THE ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT? WHERE THE GUY SUPPOSED TO BE FLAGGING WITH THE FLAG ON WOULDN'T TRAIN? AND I SAID SOMETHING TO YOU ABOUT YESTERDAY OR THE DAY? YEAH. 
          YESTERDAY. 
          I THINK IT WAS OKAY. 
          ALL I'VE BEEN, AND I WAS TOLD THAT ON TRIP BOULEVARD GOING OUT, YOU PLAN ROAD PAVEMENT. 
          I THINK DANIEL SAID , BUT FROM TRYING TO PALACE TO FALL IN THE STREET AND QUEEN IS GETTING JUST AS ROUGH AS IT IS AND THEY'VE GOT INTO THE STREETS AND MAKE OFF OF IT. 
          LOVELY. 
          BUT WE'RE UP THERE AND WE'D NEED DRIVING THAT COMES FROM DOWNTOWN. 
          AND IT'S JUST LIKE ALMOST A BRICK, A LITTLE WE'LL CALL IT OLD. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK QUITE THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT I COULD ASK. 
          MR  MRS. SOMETHING. 
          THAT'S VERY, HOW WOULD I PUT IT? I'VE BEEN ON THE CALL AND THIS IS MY 49TH YEAR WHEN I WAS ACROSS THE STREET AND SERVICE STATION. 
          THE RAILROAD TRACK WAS UP THERE AND SLID A MINIUM OFF ON TAILPIPE. 
          IT WAS TORN OFF PAYMENT ENGINE, TRAIN, TRACK. 
          CAUSE THEY'D GO ACROSS JUST TO KEEP THE CUSTOMER. 
          WHEN THEY TURNED AROUND AND PAY THE QUEEN STREET, MAN, I RODE UP AND DOWN THAT STREET FOR ABOUT A MONTH, REAL SLOW, RIGHT? SMOOTH. 
          SO I'VE COME DOWN HERE. 
          AND I ASKED THE BOARD TO TAKE FROM, UH, FIRST STREET OR BROAD STREET AND PUT NO TRUCKS AND DRIVE. 
          I MEAN TO HAVE THE BLUE SIDE COMING AROUND THE CURVE THAT AT FIRST STREET IS OVER HERE ON QUEEN STREET. 
          WE'RE AT A BIG TRUCK IS AROUND THAT CORNER BEFORE HE SEES A SIGN AND I WOULDN'T BLAME HIM FOR NOT BACKING UP, GETTING OFF THAT STREET BEFORE THEY COME AROUND. 
          AT THIS POINT, HE COULDN'T GET ON THE STREET AND THAT STREET AND I MADE A MISTAKE. 
          I DON'T GET MAD AT. 
          I MADE A STAGE, HAD HEAVY TRUCKS AND BUSES, FREIGHT FUCKS, LOG TRUCKS WITH DOUBLE TOWN, WITH BIG LOADS OF LOGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          JUST TO ADD THE STRAIGHT UP. 
          I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER STREET BECAUSE IT TOOK ME FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS TO GET IT PAID FOR LAST TIME. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY, OH, I HAVE TO PAY THE NEXT TIME WHERE THE RAILROAD PAID A WHOLE LOT FOR THIS PAPER TO BE DONE. 
          AND I WANT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ENFORCE IT TO 10. 
          NOW YOU SAY, WAIT A MINUTE. 
          WHAT I'VE HAD TO ACHIEVE. 
          AND JAKE FOR HIM HAD TO CHANGE FOR HIM. 
          AND I GOT A CAUSE AND MY DESK IS SHOWING WE'RE BLINDED. 
          WE REALIZE YOU'VE GOTTEN THIS OUT OF THERE AND SO-AND-SO WILL DO WHAT WE'LL DO. 
          WE'LL PATROL. 
          SO I KEEP WATCHING THE POLICE CAR COME IN BEHIND THE LOG TRUCKS TRUCK. 
          BUT THE OTHER DAY I GOT MAD AND RAN RUN OUT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE CAR. 
          AND SHE SAID, HE PREYS UPON ME. 
          I SAID, NO, MAN, YOU SAID, I SAID, WHY DON'T YOU GIVE HIM A TICKET? CAUSE IT'S TOO LATE. 
          AFTER THE DIG HOLES IN THE STREET BACK THERE. 
          WHEN I LEFT, SHE LAUGHED THE SMELL OF THE SEATBELTS. 
          IF I GET TO SEE IT, THE OTHER WAY I PAID FOR IT, LADY GETS SICK. 
          BUT IF , YOU'RE NOT 
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GOING TO DO IT ON THE SIDE, BUT IF YOU GET THE BIG TRUCKS OFF THE QUEEN STREET, CINEMA AROUND A BROAD STREET, THE STATE STATE'S GOING TO PAY THEM ALL THAT IN THERE FOR YOU. 
          AND THEN I GOT TO PAY IT. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEY WON'T DO IT IS BEEN WHERE THEY IS. 
          THAT IS THAT AN ORDINANCE NOW OR A SIGN THAT SAYS THEY CANNOT DO IT. 
          AND ASIDE FROM FIRST AVENUE, FIRST STREET, SUPPOSEDLY ALL THE WAY IN THE BRONX. 
          NOW THERE'S ONE ON PALM ACQUAINTANCE TURNS FIRST STREET ON QUEEN STREET. 
          THERE'S ONE THERE. 
          AND THE ONE THAT TOOK OFF FACES WHEN THEY COME AROUND ON POLK STREET AND QUEEN STREET WAS ON THE POLE AND THIS CORNER, THERE'S NOT ONE WAY  WELL, DO YOU AGREE, DANNY, THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE TRAVELING ON THOSE STREETS? WELL, CAN I ASK THIS? WHAT WOULD HE BE? I'M ABOUT TRYING TO INTERRUPT. 
          BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS JUST POPPED IN MY MIND, ONE OF THESE TRUCKS AND I SEE GOING DOWN THE ROAD, PEOPLE ARE, HAVE A LITTLE NUMBER ON THE BACK AND IT SAYS, IF I'M NOT DRIVING SAFELY, PLEASE REPORT ME. 
          I NEVER GOT REALLY LIKES THAT SIGN ON THE BACK OF HIS TRUCK, BUT THERE IT IS. 
          WHY WOULD IT BE WRONG WITH BLINDING OR ANYONE ELSE BEING ABLE TO CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SAY HE SAW SUCH AND SUCH A TRUCK GO DOWN THAT STREET. 
          AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BE DIRECTED TO SEND A WARNING TO THAT TRUCKING COMPANY THAT ONE OF THEIR TRUCKS HAS BEEN IN HAS BEEN SPOTTED GOING DOWN THE STREET. 
          AND THE NEXT ONE WILL BE MET WITH THE FINE. 
          AND AT LEAST THAT'LL MAKE SOMEBODY AWARE THAT YES, THERE IS AN ORDINANCE AND NO, WE'RE NOT JUST LAUGHING AT IT OR NOT PAYING ANY MIND TO IT. 
          I ASKED WE NEED TO DO AWAY WITH THE ORDINANCE. 
          I THINK IT'D BE, CAN WE DO THAT? IN OTHER WORDS, WE WON'T BE GIVING THEM A TICKET. 
          WE'LL JUST BE GIVING THEM LIKE A WARNING TICKET, SAY, HEY, YOU WENT DOWN THE STREET, ONE OF YOUR TRUCKS AND DRIVERS DEAD. 
          THE NEXT, WHEN YOU GET HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ONLY THING IS ,  NO HERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT, WELL, LAST WEEK I WASN'T GETTING NOTHING AFTER WE GIVE THEM SOMETHING IN THE MAIL THAT SAYS IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY. 
          AND AS AN OWNER OF THE CAT, MAN, I KNOW MY EARS ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSITIVE TIME TO THROW OFF ONLINE EMPLOYEES, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE THAN THERE IS ON SOMETIMES. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT? JUST AS A, THERE'S NOT A PLACE ON THAT STREET BECAUSE A BIG TRUCK HAS TO DELIVER FROM FIRST STREET, THE WRONG STREET BLG THEY COME DOWN THE STREET AND SHIT  THERE IS ANOTHER POINT OF ORDER. 
           MR. BARNEY, HOW MANY OF THOSE TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT COME THROUGH THERE HAVE LONG STUCK UP ON THE BACKUP? NO. 
          AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO DAMAGE US AND TRUCKS ARE GOING TO DO THE DAMAGE. 
          CAUSE THEY'RE LOADED. 
          THAT'S WHY I SAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE, I DO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING LAST, JOHN, THE ORDINANCE. 
          I THINK YOU'VE GOT A GOOD IDEA THAT MR MAN. 
          WELL, I HAVE TO THINK OF ANOTHER ONE NEXT TO YOU HERE. 
          MA'AM I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS QUESTION. 
          CAME UP WITH REFERENCE TO QUEEN STREET, BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY, GENERALLY SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I DID SOME CHECKING AND I FOUND THAT IN SOME OF THE LARGE CITIES, THEY REQUIRE ALL THREE TRUCKS TO STAY ON A NUMBER OF STREETS THAT IS EITHER STATE NUMBERS OR FEDERAL NUMBERS UNTIL THEY REACH A POINT CLOSE TO THEIR DESTINATION. 
          THEY LEAVE THEN TO GO TO THE DESTINATION AND RIGHT BACK ON THE STREETS AND THE CODE NEEDS TO BE AMENDED. 
          SO AS TO PROVIDE THAT AND PUT A BIG SIGN OUT AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE CITY WHERE THEY COME OFF THE HIGHWAY, REFLECTING THE, THEY MUST STAY ON THE STREETS UNTIL THEY'RE RIGHT AT THE DESTINATION, A FOLLOW-UP TO DO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BEING ABLE TO DO HERE ME. 
          BUT WHAT I'M SAYING NOW IS DO YOU SEE HIM COME OUT OF THE STREET? 
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YOU WON'T CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND I WILL ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE A FORM LETTER OR WHATEVER MADE UP TO DIRECT. 
          THOSE PEOPLE ARE. 
          THESE, THESE GUYS HAVE GONE DOWN THE STREET SHOULD NOT HAVE GONE DOWN THE STREET. 
          AND THIS IS THEY WARNING THE NEXT ONE. 
          WON'T BE A WARNING. 
          LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE TRAFFIC. 
          WELL, IT'S GOING TO COST US TO PAY FOR ONE. 
          AND I'M ASKING YOU TO CALL US , BUT THEN IT'S STILL GOING ON QUEEN STREET. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE MOST OFTEN I'VE ASKED HIM AND MAYBE I GOT THIS UNDERSTANDING FROM HIM WHEN I RAN ALL THE 19 SEVEN, MR. WILSON GAVE ME THE RULES THAT I HAD, THAT IF I HAD TO, I COULD NOT SAY NO POSITIVES. 
          I COULD NOT PUT NO SIGNS ON CENTERVILLE, CITY, PROPERTY, TELEPHONE POLES, CITY POLES, OR ANYTHING PERTAINING. 
          AND THEN IF I GAVE POSTERS OUT AND I HIRED SOMEBODY TO DO IT, I HAD TO GET A PERMIT. 
          BUT IF I HAD PAID FOR HELPING IT FREE OF CHARGE, I DID NOT HAVE TO GET, LIKE I ASKED MR. HARTMAN ABOUT POSTED ON THESE POLLS TODAY. 
          AND TODAY THERE'S PURPOSE AFTER A VOTE ABOUT THIS ROAD, STICKING TO ME THAT WHATEVER STREETS YOU WANT TO, YOU MAY FIND ONE STREET AND YOU'RE GOING TO IMPOSE A CLEAN, PARTICULARLY DEPOSE. 
          THIS BITCH ALONG IS THAT THEY WILL STILL STAY IN THEIR OLD BUSTERS. 
          HOW LONG THE GLEN BURNIE ROAD, ALL OUT IN MY SECTION AND ALL THAT'S STILL OUT THERE. 
          NOW, MR. HARMON, I BELIEVE SAID, LET ME STOP. 
          YOU CAN QUOTE ME A PHONE CALL THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING IN CODEBOOK AND COVENANT, BUT IT IS AS A SANCTION, THAT THICK MAKEUP WAS IT TELLING ME YOU CANNOT PUT A POLITICAL SIGN, POSTS AND DESCRIPTION  TELEPHONE POLES, ANYTHING LIKE I SAID, POLES OR ANYTHING ELSE PERTAINING TO THE CITY. 
          NOW, IF YOU'VE GOT IT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BREAKING IT AGAIN, PULLING IT OUT OF THE CODE BOOK OR ENFORCE THAT, THAT WHOEVER TO GO RUN. 
          IF YOU HAVE TO DO THAT, YOU'RE ABLE TO NOTICE BELONG ON THAT SECTION ON A SCRAP PIECE OF CAR. 
          THEY CAN'T NOT PUT IT ON SEDIMENT. 
          IT WOULD TAKE YOU TWO MONTHS TO GET THEM IN AND GO OUT HERE AND GET NAILED WITH A PIECE OF, BY THE WAY THEY DID THAT MESS UP, PUTTING 15 PIECE OF PIPE ON A GRASS LAWN AND LOOK AT YOU, LEAVE IT THERE. 
          THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT SOMEBODY NEEDED TO GO AHEAD AND DO SOME STUFF. 
          IT'S A, SO I, AND IF I GOT HIGH WHEAT BREAD, NOW YOU GOT SOME BLOGGERS. 
          I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          DO LEMME, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF FUNNY HOW LIFE TWISTS AND TURNS, BUT, UH, I WENT DOWN TO THE LIBRARY TODAY AND BLOODY, YOU KNOW, THIS VERY WELL, BUT MY FATHER WAS SHOT AS A CONSTABLE BACK IN THE FIFTIES AND NOBODY COULD REMEMBER EXACTLY WHEN IT WAS AND I TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO FINALLY FIGURE IT OUT. 
          SO I WENT DOWN TO THE NEWS AND OBSERVER, I MAY NOT NEED AS AN OBSERVER LIBRARY AND WENT THROUGH A BUNCH OF MICROPHONES AND YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT. 
          BUT I THINK IT WAS MAY OF 1954. 
          I RAN ACROSS AN ARTICLE IN THERE DISCUSSING EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN THE BOARD OF A HALDEMAN. 
          AND I DON'T REMEMBER, I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE WOULD HAVE SAID THE ATTORNEY THERE, BUT THEY WERE SAYING THEY WERE CITING CITY ORDINANCE. 
          AND I THINK IT WAS $5 PER OCCURRENCE. 
          AND THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE. 
          AND THE ORNAMENT SAID, NO POSTERS, ADVERTISING, NO NOTHING ON ANY POLLS, POSTS, PROPERTY, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IRONIC THAT 30 YEARS LATER, GOSH, 40 YEARS LATER THAT WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING. 
          BUT HONEST TO GOD, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT SAID. 
          IT WAS $5. 
          THEY WERE, AND THEY CITED THE ORDINANCE. 
          I FORGET WHERE IT WAS, BUT I TOLD Y'ALL HOW I KNEW THAT YOU THOUGHT, MAN, WHAT A BRAIN THAT GUY'S GONE, BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TELL THE TRUTH. 
          REALLY? I DON'T KNOW. 
          MAYBE ONE DAY I SAY EVERY TIME I SLEEP IRRITATIONS, DON'T MAKE ME MAD. 
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AND THEN STOP YOU GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU CAN DO IT AND TAKE ALL THIS OUT. 
          IF YOU DON'T MIND, ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEBODY TODAY SAID TO DO IT EVERY TIME YOU DO, YOU GOT TO GO CLEAN UP WHERE YOU GOT TO DO A BIG MESS. 
          IS THERE SOMETHING IN THERE? BECAUSE I WAS ON THE SAME, SAME IMPRESSION. 
          WHEN I RAN 10 YEARS AGO, THEY TOLD ME I COULDN'T PUT THEM OFF. 
          SAY I NEVER HAD. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THINK. 
          THEY LAST, SOMEBODY IS TAKING THE ORDINANCE OUT SINCE 54. 
          IT SAYS YOU CANNOT. 
          AND THERE IS A FINE IF YOU DO IT, IT'S BEEN CODIFIED SEVERAL TIMES SINCE THEN. 
          MR. MAYOR. 
          BUT THE PROVISION, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY PROVISION NOT WRITE THE COPY AND GET AN ARTICLE. 
          I'VE GOT TO GET THAT HERE, BUT YOU CANNOT PUT IT IN YOUR SIGN POSTS OR ANYTHING, EXCEPT YOUR WORK. 
          THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE. 
          AUGUST THE SECOND AUGUST, THE SECOND AUGUST AND AUGUST SATURDAY, AUGUST THE 13TH, AUGUST 19TH, AUGUST 25TH AND AUGUST. 
          THE SECOND. 
          THESE ARE THE DAYS STARTING FROM JULY 3RD UNTIL SEPTEMBER 7TH. 
          THAT'D BE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, BREAKING INTO MY HOME. 
          YOU GOT SOME FRIENDS. 
          HOW MANY PREVIOUS, MR.  SAID, WHEN YOU SEE OUR POLICE. 
          CAUSE THEY LEFT PRETTY STRIKING MY PAROLE. 
          I HAVEN'T PROMISED, BUT TONIGHT, THE SECOND TIME THEY BROKE IN ON THE FIRST TIME THEY BROKE IN THE GROCERY STORE AND YOU OUT, THEY CLEANED IT UP AUGUST THE SECOND MS. REGISTER STEP ABOUT $500. 
          AND THE GENTLEMAN HAD PANCAKE AND OLD COLIN'S AND STUFF. 
          AND THEN THEY BROKE IN AND TO EVERYBODY, THEY HAD TO BE CLOSED AUGUST. 
          THE SECOND I WENT TO NATIONAL REVENUES AND TOTAL ALARMS AND DR. 
          BILL TRYING TO GET INTO THE FIELD ALMOST  GAVIN SHOP. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET INTO BIG  WHEN THEY COULDN'T GET THEM OUT. 
          WELL, SARAH, THIS IRRITATED FOLK WILL TELL YOU THAT ALMOST A SELLER THAT BROKE A BIG TORE, A BIG HOLE, AND YOU WENT IN AND STOLE 13 ON. 
          NOW YOU HAVE TO STAY OFF OF MY BUILDING. 
          AND I GET A SIX YEAR OLD IN MY LIFE. 
          WE WANT TO COME IN AND TALK TO THEM. 
           WHICH BEAT UP ON DESK. 
          WELL, I WAS THE 13TH. 
          THEY WENT BACK IN THE GROCERY STORE AND CLEANED EVERY SHELF IN THE WHOLE THING. 
          EVERY DETERGENT AND EVERYTHING ALMOST WENT BACK TO THE NATIONAL WELDON. 
           ALMOST THE 19TH. 
          AND THEY WENT OVER AND CUT THE FENCE AND TOOK THE STEREO. 
          DON'T WANT TO DRIVE ALMOST THE 25TH. 
          THEY CUT THE FENCE AGAIN, BOTH ALLIGATORS TYPICALLY WILL SAY, SAMMY. 
          NOW I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ONE THING, FOLKS, THE LAST THREE MONTHS, BECAUSE OF VENERATION PROBLEM AND EVERY TIME VALUATION OF SMACKS HIS CHOPS HERE. 
          SO WE'RE GOING UP HUNDRED $80 TO 2200 POUNDS. 
          THEN I HAVE NOT SEEN POLICE CALL AT NIGHTTIME ON QUEEN STREET ON THAT AREA. 
          IF HE HADN'T GOTTEN MONEY, I SAY, LET'S QUIT TALKING ABOUT MOVING SOUTH IN BUSINESS ON MALES. 
          AND YOU KEEP EXPANDING AND TAKING MORE PIGMENT AND SITTING HERE 
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INSIDE EVERYTHING KEEPS GOING UP. 
          BUT THAT TO KEEP GOING BACK, I FEEL IN MOM AND THIS MIGHT BE NOT RIGHT THING TO SAY. 
          IF I HADN'T DONE MY POST YESTERDAY, IF I HAD DOPE IN MY OLD BUILDING, ALL OF A SUDDEN OUT OF YOU, I COULDN'T EVEN GET AWAY OUTSIDE THE FRONT DOOR, PLEASE. 
          WOULDN'T BE ALL THE WAY WITH HOW IT HAS TO BE OUT OF FBI, EVERYBODY. 
          WELL, I KNOW THAT POLICE STATION NOW IT SAID WHERE MOST OF THE STUFF TIP FOR THAT. 
          BUT A LOT OF CAM HAD GONE UP WHERE WE HAD THIS MUCH HAS HAPPENED. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY CAN'T WE GET SOMETHING NOT TO ME. 
          STOP PART IN THESE POLICE CALLS ON THE STREET. 
          I'M GOING TO GO 50 MILE AN HOUR PAGE. 
          PLEASE CALL THE I SEEN ABOUT IT. 
          IF I SEE THAT  BUT TO SAY, IF YOU DRUNK, WHEN YOU PLEASE GO AS FAR, THERE'S GOT ANTHONY WHITE. 
          NOW THAT I TOLD US TO HOP ON SEVERAL TIMES AND WE TALK, YOU NEED TO KNOW TIME AND SPOTLIGHT. 
           SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT HE'S GOT ONLY A FEW CARS AND THEY CAN  PUSH A BUTTON. 
          IT'LL GO 500 SOMETHING FOR YOU TO HIT THAT. 
           PUSH ANOTHER BUTTON. 
          THAT'S BEHIND PUSH ANOTHER BUTTON. 
          SO YOU GOT ALL THE LINE HE SAY, SEE ME NOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT MONEY TO GO OUT HERE AND HOW ARE YOU PLEASED? HE MIGHT'VE COUNTED. 
          DO SOME HONORS COLLEGE ENTRANCE YOUNG MAN THAT MAKES IT FEEL BIG TO, TO BECOME A APPRENTICE. 
          IT'S NOT UNTIL THEY LEARN SOME AND THEN LET THEM TAKE RIGHT AFTER GETTING PUBLIC. 
          THEY, ALL THEY GOTTA DO IS GOALS, BUT WE HAVE NOT GOT NO POTENTIAL HERE AND IT'S COSTING THEM MONEY AND ALL THAT. 
           LET ME TELL YOU THIS MUCH FROM MYSELF AND HE, MR.  WAS IN THE CONVERSATION TODAY INSIDE. 
          IT WAS THERE. 
          THEY ASKED HER AND UH, UH, BOBBY ASKED HER. 
          IT IS, I BELIEVE I WANT THE BROTHER WITH YOU. 
          LET'S GO WITH YOUR BROTHER, BILLY. 
          WHEN I WENT THERE AND THE POLICE TO YOU. 
          AND MY GOAL BEFORE I GET OUT OF HERE IS FOR PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE THAT EVERYWHERE THEY LOOK AND EVERYWHERE THEY TURN, THEY SEE A POLICEMAN MASS, NOT ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU CAN DO OVERNIGHT, BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          AND THOSE VERY THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT CONCERN, YOU OBVIOUSLY CONCERN YOU BECAUSE IT'S YOUR MONEY AND I CAN GRANT YOU THAT, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE IT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS ELECTED AND ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT I TOOK ON, AND I THINK WE'VE GOT AN EXCELLENT CHIEF AND I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME EXCELLENT POLICEMEN AND WOMEN. 
          AND I THINK THAT, UH, WE'RE ALL GOING TO GET TOGETHER. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, WHERE YOU CAN FEEL MUCH MORE SECURE IN YOUR HOUSE AND PROPERTY. 
          BECAUSE AS THE CONSTITUTION SAID, YOU KNOW ABOUT A MAN HAVING THE RIGHT TO RECEIVE THE LIGHT, EXCUSE ME, LIBERTY AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. 
          IF YOU CAN'T FEEL SECURE AND YOUR HOUSE, AND THEN YOUR BELONGINGS, THEN WE HAVE A PROP. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T, AND YOU'RE NOT ALONE IN THAT THOUGHT. 
          AND I DON'T WORRY ABOUT  PLEASE COME BACK. 
           WE'LL BE OUT OF HERE MAKING MORE THAN IT SAYS, BOY, GET OUT OF HERE. 
          NO PLAYSTATION. 
          AND  EVERY SO OFTEN ON THE NIGHT TO THIS CAN  WELL, I MEAN, WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN 
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AND IT SAYS, NOT FOLKS KNOW ABOUT IT AND SOMETHING'S GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT IT. 
          I'LL JUST PUT IT TO YOU THAT WAY. 
          SO, UH, IF YOU GIVE US TIME, THESE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO HAVE SORT OF A LONG RANGE PLAN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A LITTLE SHORTER RANGE PLAN IF WE CAN. 
          BUT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAPPY WHEN IT'S OVER. 
          WELL, I'M HAPPY TO CONTROL. 
          WELL, JUST, JUST, JUST WE'LL SEE WHAT YOU MIGHT EVEN SEE ALL TIME WALKING DOWN THERE. 
          I'LL BE IN A RATHER BREAST PACE THOUGH. 
          YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO WRITE, LET'S SAY WHO'S NEXT. 
          UH, THEN THAT ROW, ANYBODY ELSE IN THAT ROW WANTED TO SPEAK? OKAY, WE'LL GO TO THE SECOND ROW. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, NOBODY IN THAT ROOM. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN'T SEE THAT FAR IN THE THIRD. 
          WHEN I SEE A FEW HEADS BACK THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK I SEE HER ROLES  COME FORWARD. 
          COME FORWARD. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THANK YOU PERSONALLY, FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS. 
          AND SO MANY OTHER MEMBERS HERE TO ASSURE PEOPLE IN TOWNSHIP 700 CITIES, NOT ABOUT AN EXCESS OF WHERE TO LAST A GOOD PERIOD OF TIME HAS HELPED A LOT IN OUR, OUR CAMPAIGN TO KEEP THAT AREA A COUNTY AREA, RATHER THAN HAVING NX STORE. 
          DIDN'T HAVE IT INCORPORATED IN FIGHTS THE WRONG YOUR CORPORATION. 
          BUT I DID THANK YOU. 
          AND COME IN. 
          YOU'RE A PATROLMAN. 
          NOW, IF YOU COULD JUST GET THE VETERAN RATES STAMPS, WE'RE WORKING ON IT UNTIL YOU BELIEVE THAT WE TAKE IT. 
          IF THEY DIDN'T PUT THEIR LEG OR TRYING TO MAKE PROFITS TO GO INTO THE TAX FUND, IT MIGHT HELP TO BRING DOWN THE ELECTRIC RATES. 
          UM, ALONG ALONG THE LINES OF ELECTRICITY THOUGH, I'VE READ SOME STUFF THAT KIND OF DISTURBED ME ABOUT THE OFFER TO SELL SEWAGE CAPACITY TO THE COUNTY. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GOVERNMENT, UH, I SORT OF ASSOCIATE LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT, IF YOU WILL, UM, YOU WOULD WANT TO HELP YOUR COLLEAGUES TO SOLVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM BECAUSE I DO RECOGNIZE IT AS A SERIOUS PROBLEM OVER THERE. 
          WOMEN CAUGHT PEOPLE LOOK UP SILVER, THEY CAN'T DO IT, BUT THE PROBLEM IS GREATER THAN JUST A TEMPORARY OR AN IMMEDIATE NEED. 
          THE LONG-TERM NEED IS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. 
          SO THE NEUSE RIVER, THE TRENCH RIVER ONTO THE POINT WHERE IT'S NOT SAFE TO PUT YOUR HAND INTO OR GO SWIMMING OR ANYTHING. 
          UM, PEOPLE WANT TO LET THEIR DOGS GO SWIMMING IN IT RIGHT NOW. 
          AND WE'VE SEEN THAT WE'VE VERIFIED THAT AND PEOPLE KEPT THEIR DOGS OUT, DOWN AT THE BEACH, UM, TO SELL STORAGE CAPACITY TO THE COUNTY. 
          IT SEEMS SORT OF IRONIC THAT YOU WOULD EVEN CONSIDER THAT. 
          NOW. 
          UM, IF YOU WOULD REMEMBER A WHILE BACK, THERE WAS A MOVE ON THE PART OF THE COUNTY AND SOME OF THE ALDERMAN I BELIEVE TO, TO RUN THE, UH, WASTEWATER LEAD CHANGE FROM THE LAND COUNTY LANDFILL, THEY WERE BUILDING THROUGH THE CITY PLAN. 
          WELL, IF YOU RECALL A LOT OF SESSION AND GOT UPSET ABOUT THAT, AND THEY RAN PETITIONS ALL THROUGH GREENBRIER OUT THERE TO HAUL THEM ON A BLADE THAT REPRESENTED THE HARRISON OFF. 
          I HEAR, UH, SEWARD DEAL WAS TURNED DOWN THEN, AND I CAN'T SEE WHY THEY WOULD RAISE A SIMILAR KIND OF ISSUE. 
          NOW, THE PLANT THAT YOU HAVE WAS BUILT, I THINK FOR THE CITY'S HUGE FOR CITY TAX MONEY, AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE SOME GRANT MONEY AND SO FORTH, BUT IT WASN'T, I DON'T BELIEVE DEALT WITH THE COUNTY. 
          UM, YOU'VE GOT SOME OF THE COUNTIES ARE GOING TO BE USING IT TO DAMAGE THE WAREHOUSE. 
           I HAD A FEW OTHER THINGS YOU WANTED TO MENTION THIS LANDFILL LEACHATE AND, UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU WOULD NOT PUT THAT LIQUID THROUGH YOUR PLANT, THERE WAS A BIG SCRAMBLE TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION SO THAT IT COULD GET THE BOMB. 
          SO FOR THE MANSFIELD AND MR. GLEIBERMAN CAME UP WITH THIS INNOVATIVE CREATION THAT HE GOT OUT OF A SCIENCE MAGAZINE, AND I SOLD THE MAGAZINE TO RESTART THE LEACHATE AND THE LANDFILL. 
          AND FOR THAT, HE WAS AWARDED, UH, I HAVE SOME TIME ON MONEY AS A MANAGEMENT AWARD FOR SUPERIOR MANAGEMENT, BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING TO THE GUNS OUT THERE, COLD CASE, AND THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO PUT IT, 
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THE CAMP, PUMP IT BACK INTO THE LANDFILL. 
          THEY HAVE NOWHERE, BUT WHAT EVERYBODY KNEW ABOUT THE FIRST ONE THING, BUT NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS. 
          IT'S NOT WORKING. 
          AND I SUBMIT, AND MR. GLAMOROUS RETURNS HIS AWARD BY HIM, PUT IT IN THE GENERAL PHONE. 
          UM, UNTIL THAT PROBLEM WAS SOLVED, THERE ARE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AS PRESENTED. 
          THE DISPOSABLE IS FLUID AND IT MAY TAKE LONGER TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS THAN WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE, ESPECIALLY DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACTORS. 
          PEOPLE WHO'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY. 
          YOU GOTTA CONTINUE TO BUILDING, BUT IT MAY BE TO JUST HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET. 
          AND THEN A LITTLE TIME GO BACK TO THESE PROBLEMS CAN BE SOLVED. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE INCREASE, DUMPING INTO THE NEWS FOREVER AS RELATES TO THE RAMADA SEWAGE PLANT, WHERE A LITTLE DEAL WAS WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE OWNER OF THAT PLACE AND THE COUNTY TO GO THROUGH THE BACK DOOR, SO TO SPEAK AND PUT MORE STUFF INTO THE NEUSE RIVER. 
          THIS PUPPET HERE WILL BE ANNOUNCED. 
          AND I HOPE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO IT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE VIEWS ARE PRO OR CON, BUT CONDUIT AND MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO HELP SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. 
          I THINK I MAY HAVE SAID ABOUT YOU. 
          I MAY ASK YOU A QUESTION JUST FOR THE HECK. 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          AND THE REASON I'M ASKING YOU THAT IS THIS MY CAMERA'S PEOPLE THAT KNOW ME. 
          IT WON'T COME AS A SURPRISE AT ALL. 
          SO PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW ME, IT MAY COME AS A SURPRISE. 
          I WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND THE RIGHT THING BEING BY PURE DEFINITION. 
          EXACTLY WHAT THE PHILOSOPHER SAID, THAT SOMEWHERE ON A MOUNTAIN WOULD DEEM TO BE THE RIGHT THING THAT IS, I LIVE ON THE TRENTON RIVER. 
          I GOT ONE OF THOSE PETITION DEALS IN THE MAIL BOX FROM THE RIVERKEEPER, WHOEVER IT WAS, UH, HAD A NEIGHBOR TO CHASE ME DOWN. 
          I WAS, YES. 
          BELIEVE IT OR NOT. 
          I JOG, I KNOW WOULD LOCK IT UP, BUT ANYHOW, AND THEY ASKED ME TO SIGN IT AND WHATEVER. 
          AND I SAID, WELL, I GOT A PROBLEM WITH SIGNUPS. 
          AND WHAT'S THAT? I SAID, OBVIOUSLY, LIVING ON THE TRANS RIVER, I'D LIKE, IT I'D LIKE IT TO BE AS CLEAN. 
          I COULD DRINK AT IT. 
          AND I MADE AFTER ALL THEM PROBABLY DON'T IT. 
          I JUMPED IN IT. 
          I SWAM IN IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND DIDN'T FALL IN IT. 
          SO BY THE SAME TOKEN, I DON'T WANT TO BE SELFISH AND NOT DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING? THE RIGHT THING IS I'M BEING TOLD IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OPEN TOWNSHIP SEVEN AND HAVE A SERIOUS TODAY RIGHT NOW, PROBLEM. 
          THIS IS WHAT I HEAR. 
          I READ IT IN THE NEWSPAPER. 
          I SEE AT NIGHT HERE, JUST LIKE YOU DO. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW SCIENTIFIC IT IS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S WAYS YOU CAN MEASURE IT ON A SCALE OF ONE TO A HUNDRED DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT. 
          UH, I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THOSE FOLKS HAVE COME TO US FOR HELP. 
          I DO KNOW THAT IF I WAS AN EXTREMELY SELFISH PERSON, I COULD SAY, IT'S NOT MY JOB, MAN. 
          THIS IS THE CITY SEWER SYSTEM. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT ALL THE PROBLEMS YOU GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          MY MOTHER BROUGHT ME UP TO BELIEVE SOMEONE THAT I WAS MY BROTHER'S KEEPER. 
          I HAVE TO FEEL LIKE WHEN OTHER PEOPLE HAVE A PROBLEM. 
          AND THEN IF I MAY BE ABLE TO OFFER A SOLUTION THAT MY HEART, MY GUTS, MY HAND SIDES HAVE TO TELL ME THAT I, I GOT TO HAVE TO TRY TO DO THE BEST I CAN TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. 
          AND I MEAN, BY ASKING YOU THAT QUESTION AND THE MOST HONEST TO GOD'S AND SEE HER MAD FOR SINCERE AND HONEST TO GOD ADVICE, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WHAT DO WE DO? OKAY. 
          UM, MY BROTHER WAS ASKED A SIMILAR QUESTION A FEW NIGHTS AGO. 
          HE SAID, HE SAID, WELL, I DON'T THINK THIS IS NOT MY ANSWER, BUT HIS ANSWER WAS, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO ASK ME TO SOLVE IN FIVE MINUTES. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S TAKEN GOVERNMENT THIS LONG TO COME, BUT MY THOUGHTS ON IT, AS I WOULD EXPLORE THE IDEA OF MODIFYING YOUR SEWER PLAN SO THAT THE WASTEWATER IS GOING INTO THE RIVER. 
          NOW YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT AND PIPE IT BACK INTO THE CITY AND INTO THE AREAS AND LET PEOPLE USE IT, UH, IN WASHING CARS AND WATERING MOMS AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS. 
          THE MODIFICATION REQUIRED, MAYBE THAT THAT WOULD RAISE THE QUALITY OF THAT WATER SOMEWHAT, BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE RAISED TO THE LEVEL OF DRINKING WATER. 
          AND THERE'S SOME PLANTS AROUND. 
          I'M TOLD THAT SOME OF THE CITY OR COUNTY PEOPLE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO DRINK. 
          YOU KNOW? SO THE WATER THAT YOU GET BACK WOULD BE OF A KIND THAT WOULD NOT BE DANGEROUS. 
          IF SOMEBODY ACCIDENTALLY DRANK IT, WOULDN'T BE FOR DRINKING WATER. 
          THAT'S ONE POSSIBILITY. 
          ANOTHER POSSIBILITY IS ONGOING EXPLORATION OF LAND 
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APPLICATION INTO THE FOREST AND INTO THE FRUIT. 
          THEN THE NATIONAL FOREST FOR PERHAPS SOME OTHER WEYERHAEUSER LANDS AROUND THE PERRIER. 
          UM, IF AN OFFICER TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO PUT SEWAGE THROUGH YOUR PLANNING, WORK, TIED INTO CERTAIN CONDITIONS TO, WITH, UH, OUTCOMES CHECKING NOTHING. 
          SO THAT INCREMENTALLY THERE WOULD BE CHECKS MADE TO MAKE SURE THE PROGRESS WAS BEING MADE TOWARD ONE OF THESE TYPES OF MODIFICATION OF THE SOLUTION. 
          IT WOULD BE MORE ACCEPTABLE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND ACCEPT A LESS THAN DESIRABLE SITUATION. 
          YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE DEFINITE PROGRESS BEING MADE, BUT THE WAY THINGS STAND RIGHT NOW IS NOTHING IS DONE. 
          AND WE CONTINUE TO JUST THE WAY WE ARE, EVERYBODY THAT I TALKED TO, AND SOME OF THEM ARE PRETTY KNOWLEDGEABLE THAT THE RIVER IS GOTTEN SO TO SPEAK. 
          I MEAN, THE RIVER IS BECOMING A SEWER. 
          WE'VE COME INTO THE STORE SIDE, BUT WE'RE HERE. 
          SEE THE THING ABOUT THAT, THAT I HEAR ALSO LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOUGH, IS THAT FOR EXAMPLE, MR. HARTMAN, UH, THE PAPER, UH, NOT THE PAPER IN AND OF ITSELF, BUT SOME PEOPLE THAT WRITE THE PAPER SAY THINGS LIKE WE HAVE A 30 BOD PERMIT, WHICH IS TRUE, BUT YOU TELL ME THAT WE DON'T DONE ANYWHERE NEAR 30 DAYS. 
          IS THAT NOT TRUE? IN OTHER WORDS, THERE ARE A LOT OF, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HERE THAT WHEN YOU WEIGH IN AND TALKING ABOUT WHO'S DOING WHAT AND THE WHO, OR WHATEVER THAT ARE NOT EXACTLY THE SAME. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT, THAT MY DRUTHERS ON THIS KIND OF THING PULL UP AVERAGING FOUR MONTHS  BUT SEE THE THING IS HE ALREADY, WHAT WAS THAT I SAY? SO IT'S A PRETTY HOT QUALITY ALREADY. 
          WELL, I MEAN MUCH BETTER THAN IS ADVERTISED. 
          WHAT ARE THEY? THEY DID THIS. 
          IF HE WAS GOING TO BE AND HAVE A LOT LAST NIGHT PUBLIC HEARING, THEY DID A SIMILAR THING. 
          THIS, THE CITY WORKER THERE, WE HAD MADE A SHORT PRESENTATION AND USED FINGERS BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE PERMITTED TO DUMP IN THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, 40TH, WHATEVER YOU DRIVE REAL THICK AND THE WAY THE FIGURES WERE THROWN, IT MADE IT KNOWN THAT THE NEW PLAN WOULD ALLUDE MUCH LESS THAN WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY POLLUTING, BUT IT SHOULD HAVE SAID, WELL, IF THEY'RE ALREADY PERMITTED TO SAY SODA AND PEOPLE PICK UP ON THAT AND, AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT BEING DEALT WITH BOTH. 
          WELL, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HAVE LOCKS DEAL AT ALL, BUT I WILL SAY THIS ACKNOWLEDGING THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE FINGERLESS. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THAT MY PERSONAL FEELING. 
          AND I THINK THE PERSON THAT I SEE ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE NO EARTHLY IDEA WHAT THE FEELINGS OF THIS BOARD WILL BE ABOUT VOTING TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO DO IT OR NOT COUNT. 
          NO, I HAVEN'T ASKED THEM WHAT THEIR FEELINGS ARE. 
          THIS IS KIND OF THE WAY GOVERNMENT WORKS. 
          I'VE BEEN AT IT ALMOST A YEAR NOW, AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. 
          BUT ANYWAY, I THINK AN IDEA HAS TO BE KNOCKED AROUND LIKE THAT. 
          WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS I, MY, MY DRUTHERS WOULD BE THAT WHATEVER WE DO TO HELP OUR BRETHREN WOULD BE TIED TO AN OVERALL SOLUTION. 
          THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD MITIGATE OVER TIME TO IMPROVE. 
          WHAT GOES INTO THE RIVER. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, NOT, NOT DO WE HOOK ON AND WE FIX THINGS FOR NOW, AND THAT'S THE END THAT WE JUST GO, EVERYBODY HAPPILY. 
          HE GOES ON ABOUT HIS BUSINESS, BUT THE TURN YOUR EAR, A DEAF EAR TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE A SERIOUS SEWER PROBLEM STRIKES ME JUST IN HERE WRONG. 
          AND A LOT OF TIMES, WELL, ALL THE TIME IT WAS GONE WITH YOUR TENDENCY TO HELP US OUT WITH CHARACTER FOR YOU. 
          AND I APPRECIATE WHEN I SAY SOMETHING ON THIS ISSUE, UH, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I FEEL THAT THE CITY HAS ENOUGH PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH. 
          AND I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO BE ADDRESSING THE SEWER PROBLEM IN TOWNSHIP SIX OR SEVEN. 
          YOU KNOW, I, FOR ONE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HAVING THE SEWER PROVINCE TOWNSHIP SIX AND SEVEN OR HAMLET BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OUT NEWS HARD, BUT THAT WON'T PERK. 
          SO REALLY I SHOULD BE FOR PUTTING THE SEWER OUT THERE. 
          BUT IF WE, AS A CITY EXTEND SEWER TO TOWNSHIP SIX AND SEVEN, THEN THERE WOULD BE NO ADVANTAGES FOR BEING IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH. 
          IT'S LOST FOREVER. 
          AND THAT'S A VERY TRAGIC MISTAKE. 
          OUR POLICY IS THAT WE DON'T EXTEND SOAR UNLESS YOU PETITION FOR AN ANNEXATION. 
          WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY TRUCK WE HAVE AVAILABLE. 
          WE DON'T NEED TO BE WASTING STAFF TIME TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THEM. 
          WE GOT ENOUGH PROBLEMS THAT THE CITY STAFF NEEDS TO BE CONCENTRATING ON CITY PROBLEMS, PROVEN THAT'S PROVEN CITY PROBLEMS FROM YEARS BACK, BUT WHATEVER PROBLEM THEY HAVE WITH THE SUE AND TOWNSHIP SIX AND SEVEN, I MEAN THAT 
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DOESN'T CONCERN US AT ALL. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BEING OUR BROTHER'S KEEPER. 
          IT'S NOT THE SAME THING. 
          ANYTIME WE TRY TO EXERCISE OUR EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, YOU GOT PEOPLE FIGHTING US TOOTH AND NAIL. 
          ANYTIME WE TRY TO EXPAND, WE GOT, WE GOT THEM FIGHTING US TOOTH AND NAIL, BUT NOW THEY NEED SOMETHING FROM US. 
          THEY WANT US TO GIVE THEM SOME THOUGHTS, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE CITY, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING, UH, SUE THE SEWER IS AN ADVANTAGE THAT WE HAVE JUST BY BEING A CITY. 
          WE HAVE AN ADVANTAGE OVER TRENT WOODS AND ALL THE OTHER CITIES, WE GOT A SUPERIOR SEWER SYSTEM. 
          SO WHY NOT LET THAT BE A LUXURY THAT'S ENJOYED BY OUR RESIDENTS IF THEY CAN'T BUILD AND LISTEN, LET'S USE THAT TO HELP BUILD NEWBURN. 
          AS FAR AS LET THEM HELP, LET THEM HAVE TO COME TO NEWBURGH AND OCCUPIED SOME OF THIS UNUSED LAND. 
          SO WE CAN HAVE A STRONGER TAX BASE AND OUR POPULATION BASE CAN GROW, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SEWER PROBLEMS AND TOWNSHIPS SIX AND SEVEN THAT'S FOR THOSE RESIDENTS IN THE COUNTY, WE GOT ENOUGH PROBLEMS IN THE CITY. 
          LET'S DEAL WITH THOSE. 
          I CAN CERTAINLY ACCEPT THAT. 
          I JUST  MR. RAUL, HOLD ON A THING. 
          YOU SAID ME SOMEWHERE. 
          YOU SAID ONE THING THAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING INTO THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER DON'T THINK THAT THE CITY IS SITTING BACK ON THEIR HAUNCHES, LOOKING AT A SEWER PLAN ON THAT SAME BOAT. 
          WE DOING A GOOD JOB. 
          EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID TONIGHT IS ALREADY BEING EXPLORED EVERYTHING. 
          I THINK ONE OF OUR GOALS, SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE IS TO DISCONTINUE ALL DISCHARGE, TO BE FLUENT IN AT THE RIVER. 
          IT'S GOING TO COME, BUT WE ARE FORCED TO DO IT WHETHER WE WANT TO OR NOT, THOSE LAWS ARE COMING. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE AHEAD OF, SO DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE SITTING HERE DUMPING ANY FLUID THINKING. 
          THAT'S THE WE'RE GOING TO DO THE REST OF THE, SHE PUT A CONTRACT IN THE PAPER THAT MENTIONED HOW MUCH YOU ARE GOING TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO PUT THROUGH AT WHAT PRICE, HOW MANY GALLONS PER DAY AND ALL THIS STUFF. 
          I HOPE YOU WILL PUT SOME OF THOSE CONDITIONS PLAY IN THE PAST. 
          AND THIS IS, THIS IS STUFF THOUGH. 
          YOU CAN'T NUMBER ONE. 
          HE'S A, AND THE BOY HAS NOT EVEN AUTHORIZED US TO EVEN NEGOTIATE ON THIS HERE BECAUSE I'VE NEVER EVEN EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE SUBJECT. 
          COME FROM THE SUN, JOHN, I'M SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I WAS HOLDING COMPENSATION HERE, BUT A LOT OF TIMES YOU GET, WHEN YOU GO IN AND YOU'RE THINKING, YOU'RE LOOKING, YOU DON'T WANT TO TRY TO DO TO PUT THE LONGTERM PLANET. 
          CAUSE IT MAY NOT WORK. 
          WE GOT TO FIND SOMETHING CONCRETE, SOMETHING WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE A GOOD ALTERNATIVE AND THEN GO FOR IT. 
          BECAUSE UNLIKE INDUSTRY, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY THEY CAN USE FOR, FOR THE TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, X-MEN EXPERIMENTS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT SOME INDUSTRIES CAN USE. 
          WE'VE GOT TO FIND SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE PROVEN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE SEWER SYSTEM. 
          IT'S GOING TO GET BETTER. 
          WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBABLY HOPEFULLY THE BEST ONE ON THIS RIVER, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE STUFF BESIDES SEWAGE. 
          I HAD TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF PHOSPHOROUS, A LOT OF PHOSPHOROUS GOING INTO THIS RIVER, 19, IT'S COMING DOWN MORE FOSSIL. 
          WE HAVE MORE PROBLEMS WITH PHOSPHORUS THAN WE DO NITROGEN, BUT IT'S COMING DOWN HERE IN A PRETTY QUICK RIVER. 
          AND HE GETS OUT THERE RIGHT BY WHERE OUR PLAN IS AND IT STOPPED. 
          AND YOU GOT NICE DEPOSIT. 
          A PHOSPHORUS PHOSPHORUS DOES NOT GO AWAY NITROGEN. 
          YOU CAN NEUTRALIZE, BUT IT'S HARD TO GET RID OF FONTS. 
          WELL, MY ONLY POINT IS IF YOU CAN TAKE ON A WHOLE NEW SOURCE OF PASTORAL, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, TO PUT THROUGH YOUR PLAN. 
          WELL, I'M IN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE HOW TO TELL HIM TO EXPERIMENT. 
          UM, MY TRUE FEELINGS ARE WITH, WITH MR. RAIN. 
          I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S POSITION. 
          HE'S DEMONSTRATED AS A CARING PERSON, TIME AND TIME AGAIN, AND OTHER ISSUES. 
          AND I FEEL THAT THIS IS STRICTLY IN CHARACTER AND HE'S NOT ASKING YOU TO PASS ANYTHING YET. 
          IT'S JUST SOMETHING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT. 
          YOU CAN'T QUIT TALKING ABOUT THINGS JUST BECAUSE YOU GET IT BACK. 
          I SUPPOSE MIGHT BE A LOT OF TALKING WITH THE COUNTY RAIN OR ME A REAL GOOD FRIENDS WHERE YOU CAN TELL HOW TO KNOCK. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO TELL REALLY HONEST TO GOD. 
          WE, UH, THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION I PERSONALLY, AND I THINK THE REST OF THE BOARD WELCOMES INPUT ANY TIME, ANYWHERE, PHONE CALL LETTER OR ANYTHING ELSE, THERE'S NOT ANY EDGE WHERE EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK. 
          AND I'M JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          WHEN I WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE AND THE POLITICAL BUSINESS, I THOUGHT, BOY, THAT MUST BE YOU CAN'T BE WHAT THEY'RE REALLY SAYING. 
          AND SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON EITHER I'M THE DUMBEST CLASS. 
          SO THAT ONE FELL OFF THE TURNIP TRUCK OR IT AIN'T GOING ON. 
          I AIN'T FOUND IT YET. 
          LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          SO, UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS JUST TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND AND FEEL A LITTLE BETTER ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION IS OBVIOUSLY I LIKED TO HELP OUT MY, 
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UH, MY FELLOW FOLKS THAT ARE IN TROUBLE, BUT IT WOULD BE UNDER CONDITIONS. 
          AND A LOT OF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE PROBABLY OUT OF THEIR CONTROL WITH STATE HEALTH AND OTHER HEALTH. 
          TODAY, WE ALL NEED TO GET OUT OF THIS MESS, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD BE METERED OUT OVER TIME SO THAT WE ALL END UP WITH A MUCH CLEANER, BETTER THINKING, BUT RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME, NO MATTER WHAT ROBERT SAYS, PEOPLE ARE IN DIRE STRAITS JUST TO, JUST TO LOOK DOWN ON THE WAY. 
          BUT I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL ARGUE ABOUT AND FIGHT ABOUT DON'S ON THIS BOWL AND HE'S GOING TO START SMOKING. 
          I HAD A LOT OF COMPASSION FOR SOMEBODY WHOSE SON HAS RETURNED FROM MILITARY OR SOMETHING WITH A WIFE AND DEFENDANT. 
          THEY WANT TO TAKE A HALF AN ACRE OF THE FAMILY PLACE AND BUILD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY, HEY, PUT THAT MAN IN THE STORE. 
          BUT WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN TO SAY, WELL, BILL 500 HOMES OUT HERE, FIVE MILES OUT OF TOWN WATCHING AN ACCIDENT AND YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE STORE AND ALL THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW, I SAID, HEY, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT? WE'VE GOT SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS HERE. 
          IT HAS TO BE SOLVED TO SWITZERLAND. 
          OTHER THAN THE WIREHOUSES THING, THERE'S BEEN NO OTHER ONE THAT I'M AWARE OF THE REST HAS BEEN EXISTED. 
          WELL, I'M GOING TO REITERATE SOME OF WHAT ROB SAID, AND THAT IS DAMAGE TO THE FOREST TAXATION. 
          AND THE SEWER IS THE SAME THING. 
          WHEN WE DID THE FOREST ANNEXATIONS. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DID IT WAS BECAUSE SOME OF THE AREAS, IF NOT, MOST OF THEM HAD SUNNI SOUP. 
          NOW THE REASON WE PASSED THE ORDINANCE NOT TO PUT EXTEND SEWER OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF HUMAN, WAS TO PREVENT EVER HAVING TO FORCE ANNEX AGAIN, LIKE TAKE THE GREEN BOX, TAKE THE, UH, WHENEVER THE WAREHOUSE WE'RE DEVELOPING IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NAME OF IT IS. 
          GREENBRIER TO BLUE BEAN REAL QUICK. 
          UH, SO THEN TO GIVE CITY SEWER, WHICH THEY WANTED, THEY HAVE TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. 
          NOW THERE'S NOBODY LIVES OUT THERE. 
          AND THAT ANYBODY THAT BUYS A LOT OVER THERE, BILL'S HOME OVER THERE IS GOING TO BE IN THE CITY. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN A SUIT AND IT WON'T BE, THEY, SOMEBODY THERE WON'T BE US OR US AND THEM COMING TO THE CITY. 
          IT'S THE SAME REASON THAT I WENT ALONG WITH THE MAYOR AND THEN PASSING A RESOLUTION, NOT TO FORCE ANNEX ANYBODY IN TOWNSHIP SIX OR SEVEN. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT. 
          BUT IF THEIR SEWER GETS BAD ENOUGH, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE IT TO THEM EITHER. 
          IF THEY WANT TO COME INTO THE CITY, COME, HEY, RIGHT? THAT THAT'S THE PRICE YOU PAID GET IN OUR SUICIDES BECAUSE THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, THE RISK, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS BOARD. 
          THIS BOARD IS ONLY AN EXTENSION OF RESIDENT. 
          THE RESIDENT BALL VOTED FULL BALL AND PAID FOR THAT. 
          SO THEY VOTED FOR IT. 
          WE DIDN'T FORCE IT. 
          I NEED MY TRUCK. 
          THEY HAD FORESIGHT TO SEE THAT WE NEEDED TO SEWAGE IT. 
          AND WE HAVE IT NOW AND I'M NOT GOING TO SQUANDER IT. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO JUST GIVE IT AWAY BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS GOT A PROBLEM. 
          YOU GOT A PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          WHAT WE DID WITH ELECTRIC SYSTEM, THESE SAME PEOPLE, SOME OF THEM 40 YEARS AGO, SCREAMING OUT THERE. 
          HEY, I'M OUT HERE IN A COLD DARK WORLD. 
          GIVE ME SOME LECTURES, CP NELSON. 
          I DON'T KNOW YOU FOLKS OUT THERE FOR ME YET. 
          WHAT DOES SEE A HUMAN IN A BIG BRAWLS AND HELPERS? WE ARE STILL IN OUR LINES OUT THERE. 
          AND FOR 35 YEARS, I WRITE FOR A LOWER CP. 
          IT HELPS MEN. 
          THEY GO UP ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE, THE BAD GUYS, EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO FAMILIES. 
          I CAN'T PLAY WITH, I DIDN'T. 
          THAT'S WHY I DON'T WORRY ABOUT ELECTRICITY BECAUSE I KNOW WITHIN FIVE TO 10 YEARS SAID HIS LEGS ARE GOING TO BE LESS THAN C P AND L QUIT SCREAMING AND GET OFF HOURS. 
          AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO WAS SCREAMING TO GET ON THE CITY AS AN AWFUL CITY, P AND L IS GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK AT OUR GOAL. 
          YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY P AND L THAT'S RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE WHOLE FRONT ZONE, BUT THAT'S WHY I VOTED. 
          I'M NOT GOING. 
          I HAD NO DESIRE WHATSOEVER, MAN FORCE ANNEX ANYBODY. 
          I DIDN'T LIKE IT WHEN I DID. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD DECISION. 
          I WAS ON THE SEASON I HAD AS AN ALL, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE SOME AWAY. 
          NO, SIR. 
          THAT'S A PREMIUM  YOU CAN LIVE IN THE CITY. 
          I DON'T EVEN PRESERVING THE DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AREAS, RURAL AREAS IN THE CITY. 
          AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING GOES ALONG WITH THAT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT TALL. 
          UM, AS FAR AS THE METRIC GOES, I DON'T REALLY CARE WHERE I GET MY ELECTRICITY FROM. 
          IF I THINK I'M GETTING IT AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE RATES, BUT WHEN I SEE YOU TAKING MONEY FROM THE BILLS, I SEND THEM AND PUT THEM IN YOUR GENERAL TAX FUND. 
          THAT'S PAYING FOR RENOVATION OF MIDDLE STREET, WHICH I DON'T EVER SEE. 
          MAYBE ONCE IN A WHILE. 
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 LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. 
          LET ME TELL YOU WHAT MY THINKING HAS DONE. 
          I KNOW NOW I JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE MYSELF CLEAR ON THIS THING BECAUSE RICK AND I ARE ROOKIES YEAH. 
          CHECK ROBERT. 
          BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I'VE DECIDED SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD. 
          AND IT WAS A REALIZATION I CAME TO, ONE THING WAS THAT THIS, THIS GREAT MARKUP, IF YOU WILL, WAS, WAS 3.6, 6%. 
          AND I'VE BEEN TELLING LORI THAT I HAD A BOOK. 
          I WANT TO GIVE HER AND I KEEP FORGETTING THIS. 
          AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE I'M ALMOST 50, BUT IT'S AT MY HOUSE. 
          LEAVE FOR YOUR MIND. 
          BUT I GOT IT. 
          AND IT SHOWS ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWN. 
          ONE ELECTRIC SAID, ISN'T THIS, THAT NAIL AND WHERE WE FIT AMONG ALL THE OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEIR MARKUP, YOU CAN HAVE A COPY OF. 
          IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, WHATEVER. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY ON THE ONE HAND THAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE CITY TAKING THIS 3.6% AND USING IT FOR THEIR THINGS AND THAT YOU CAN ARGUE THAT POINT. 
          I WON'T, I WON'T DENY. 
          BUT THEN ONE DAY A GREAT REVELATION CAME UPON ME. 
          AND THAT WAS, I SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS REALLY AMAZING TO ME IS A FEW OF THE FOLKS THAT WORKED FOR ME. 
          AND I TRIED TO, I BRAG ON THEM ALL THE TIME. 
          I THINK I GOT THE BEST EMPLOYEES IN THE WORLD AND ALL THAT BUSINESS. 
          AND THEN I GOT THE REAL BIG SHOCK. 
          AND THAT WAS THAT I HAD ONE OR TWO THAT LIVED OUTSIDE OF TOWN. 
          COULDN'T BELIEVE WHEN I TOLD HIM ONE DAY WE PAID FOR COUNTY TAX OR THOSE OF US THAT LIVE IN THE CITY PLUS CITY TAX. 
          AND I SAID, NOW, WAIT A MINUTE. 
          YOU MEAN, YOU PLAY THE SAME TAXES WE PAY. 
          I SAID, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          AND YOU DON'T USE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          AND WE WENT ALL DOWN THE LIST. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GO ON, BUT WHAT THOSE FOLKS OVER HERE, LIKE WHERE WE LIVED AT TALK ABOUT AT 3.7% AND IT'S PAYING FOR STUFF, THEY DON'T LIKE MY GOD, YOU GUYS ARE PAYING 60 SOME CENTS ON THE DOLLAR. 
          AND A WHOLE PILE OF THAT IS GOING TO, I SAID, HEY, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE BETTER THAN THAT. 
          I VOTED AGAINST SOME FOLKS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ARE SPENDING MY MONEY ON SOME THINGS THAT I DON'T EVEN THINK OF MARLEY. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THE POINT OF THE MATTER IS I DON'T, IT WOULD BE PROBABLY IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT PAYING MONEY THROUGH ONE METHODOLOGY OR THE OTHER SUCH THAT MONEY IS BEING SPENT FOR SOMETHING THAT HE GETS NO BENEFIT FROM WHATSOEVER. 
          I MEAN, AND SO I'M NOT THROWING OFF ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT IS NOT A THING WITHOUT PRESSING US AND IS SURELY NOT A THING OF GREAT MAGNITUDE BECAUSE I'M LIKE HE, BEFORE I GOT ON THIS SIDE TO SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE, I THOUGHT IT MUST BE INCREDIBLE. 
          IT MUST BE A BIG WHOPPING SUM OF MONEY, BUT IT'S ONLY THAT MUCH, THE REAL COST OF THE, OF THE JEWS TO US CONSUMERISM HAS MORE TO DO WITH INVESTMENT IN CERTAIN POWER PLANTS AND THINGS THAT LOOK REAL GOOD TO SOME FOLKS HERE AS BACK. 
          AND IN FACT, IF I HAD BEEN IN THEIR POSITION, I MIGHT'VE VOTED THE SAME WAY TO BE HONEST TO GOD ABOUT IT. 
          AND THE WAY THINGS LOOKED AT THAT POINT. 
          BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE GOING TO WORK OUT OF THAT OVER TIME. 
          AND WHAT DON WAS SAYING IS VERY LIKELY GOING TO BE TRUE. 
          AND SO IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. 
          AND, UH, I'VE EVEN HAD ONE OR TWO PEOPLE COME UP AND TELL ME THAT THEY THOUGHT WE WERE BOTH. 
          APPLE CAN DO ME, BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE PARENTS. 
          YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST HANG. 
          WELL, LISTEN, IF YOU GOT A GOOD COMMENT TO THROW OUT THERE, WE'LL LISTEN. 
          WELL IN CLOSING OUT AND PICK UP MUCH MORE OF YOUR TIME, BUT YOU POST TOOK UP A GOOD BIT OF IT. 
          BUT I GUESS I I'VE TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TO SEEK OUT TO TALK TO THAT WHEN I, WHEN I BECAME TOO WELL KNOWN FOR MY MIND CONFLICT, REALLY, I HAD PEOPLE STOPPING BY THE HOUSE AND SOME OF THEM WERE ELDERLY PEOPLE, AND THIS IS NO LIE. 
          I'VE TALKED WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE TURNED AN ELECTRIC BILL JUMPS UP 15 OR $20 IN ONE MONTH OVER WHAT THE NORM AVERAGE, THEY'VE BEEN A CUSTOMER INSPECT. 
          YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT WAS YOUR OWN FAULT. 
          MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING ON, I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT, UH, IT HURTS HIM IF IT'S A SACRIFICE FOR HIM AND SAY, TAKE OFF. 
          MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DEALING WITH THIS, WOULDN'T THINK TOO MUCH OF LEAVING THAT FOR A TIP OF A MATURE, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T WEAR A TIP OF THE SHIRT AND THESE SAME PEOPLE PICK UP THE NEWSROOM OF THE SUN, DRONE AND READ A GOVERNMENT BODY IS HAVING TO MEET AND KNOW THAT THE SHERIFF, 
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I DON'T THINK YOU GET PEOPLE. 
          I KNOW YOU MEET OVER THERE, BUT I'M THINKING, I'M THINKING OF A GROUP COMING UP. 
          UNIVERSITIES HAVE A MEETING NOTE SHARING FOR SIX OR SEVEN HOURS, AND WE KNOW THE SHIRT DON'T GIVE THOSE ROOMS AWAY FOR THESE MEETINGS WHEN THEY COULD GO OUT TO THEM. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, TO THE ACT CENTER OUT THERE, SHE HAS A BEAUTIFUL MEETING ROOM. 
          THEY'VE OFFERED IT TO US, A CASH TO YOU FOR 15 TO $20 A YEAR. 
          DO ME ONE FAVOR, DO ME ONE FAVOR. 
          AND I, AND I, AND I REALLY WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, CONSTRUCTIVELY DESTRUCTIVELY OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE I MIGHT DO A LITTLE COMPUTER ON THE MOVIE THAT TIME I NEED INPUT. 
          WE PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES ONE TIME AND THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF YOU TRULY DO BELIEVE THAT I CARE ABOUT FOLKS, WHICH I DO AND THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF YOU SITTING IN THE SEAT AND I'M SITTING IN AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHY. 
          AND I TRULY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ENTIRELY, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE OUT AHEAD OF DEPENDING ON ME TO SOLVE ALL THESE PROBLEMS. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE NIGHTS THAT I LAY IN THE BED AND I FEEL THAT WEIGHT AND IT'S PRESSING ON ME KNOWING THAT I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THE BEST I CAN. 
          BUT KNOWING THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE OR A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THEM, RIGHTFULLY WRONGFULLY THINK I'M THE GUY, YOU KNOW, MOSES WENT UP AND HE TAPPED. 
          HE HAD SOME HELP, BUT I'M ASKING FOR THAT SAME HELP. 
          BUT MOSES, WHEN I WAS TAPPED ON A ROCK, HE TAPPED ON A ROCK AND WATER CAME OUT AND I'VE BEEN WAILING AT ROCK MIGHTY HARD AND HOPELESS. 
          WELL, I GOT PLENTY OF HELP. 
          THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN A PLEASANT SURPRISE, BUT ARE ALL I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY IS WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN. 
          AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THINGS A WHOLE LOT BETTER TO COME BECAUSE WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN THAT SSS TROLLEY UP HERE. 
          SO IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          I THINK I'VE SEEN IT ALL NOW WITH HER RUNNING AWAY. 
          MOST COFFEE NEXT, CAN WE TAKE A BREAK FROM, THEY ARE, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS GET YOU ANOTHER SIGN ON WHEELS AND JUST PULL IT THROUGH AND THEN WE CAN READ THE SIDE AND THEN THAT'LL BE EVERY TIME I GO BY, MY NAME IS BILL HARPER. 
          I LIVE AT 46, 25 OLD SHAREPOINT ROAD. 
          I COME UP HERE FOR A TOTAL OF DIFFERENT TYPE REQUEST. 
          UH, OUR GROUP DOES A LOT OF PROTESTING. 
          UH, SO PROTESTING PERMITS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US OVER A YEAR AGO. 
          UH, CATS, HER BRAS WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT HE WAS LEGALLY TOLD. 
          HE SHOULD GO THROUGH TO GET THE CITY TO BE EVEN CLOSE TO RALEIGH, THE STATE CAPITOL OR WASHINGTON DC, THE U S. 
          NOW FOR EXAMPLE, THURSDAY, WE'LL PROBABLY BE IN RALEIGH PROTEST. 
          WE'LL GET OUR PERMIT AFTER WE GET UP THERE, A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN THAT ATTENTION NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO IT RIGHT THEN AT ONCE. 
          SOME THINGS ARE THAT IMPORTANT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING MILLIONS, MILLIONS, I DON'T MEAN 2 MILLION TO 1 MILLION. 
          I MEAN, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF HOURS, SOMETIMES THREE OR FOUR DAYS CAN COST YOU A LOT. 
          NOW OVER A YEAR AGO, WE ASKED FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURGH TO FIX IT TO WHERE WE CAN GET A PERMIT WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT A DAY OR THREE DAYS, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          THE SMALLEST NEWMAN IS AS SMALL AS THEIR PROBLEMS ARE COMPARED TO RALEIGH AND WASHINGTON DC. 
          IT AT, WE HAVE TO WAIT 72 HOURS OR 70 HOURS LONGER THAN IT TAKES US TO, TO GET A PERMIT FOR RALEIGH, FOR WASHINGTON DC. 
          OUR CRICKETS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PEACEFUL. 
          WE HAVE NEVER USED FORCE, NEVER USED VIOLENCE, NEVER USED VOCA ATTITUDE. 
          WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN RESPECTFUL AND I DON'T SEE WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS PROBLEM. 
          WE'VE NOT HAD ANY ANSWER SO FAR 
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AFTER A YEAR. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD TONIGHT TO GIVE THIS SOME SERIOUS THOUGHT TO GO IN BACK TO WHAT IT USED TO BE. 
          AND EVEN THERE, OTHERWISE IT USED TO TAKE US A DAY TO GET UP FROM HERE TO PICK IF EVERYBODY KNOWS US, THE ONES THAT DOES DO THE PICKING PEOPLE THAT ISSUE THE PERMITS. 
          I DON'T SEE WHY I DON'T TO JUST PICK UP THE PHONE AND SAY, WE NEED A PERMIT, A PARTICULAR THIS ADDRESS. 
          AND HERE'S HOW I MEAN, THERE'S NO EXCUSE WHY IT SHOULD TAKE US THREE DAYS. 
          I LIKED SOMEBODY WHOSE OPINION THE ANSWER. 
          I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT. 
          ROBERT TO YOU ON THAT ANSWER. 
          IS THAT A BUTTON I PUSHED THAT BUTTON AN HOUR AGO? NO, YOU DID WELL IN THAT CASE, ERASES IT IT'S OKAY. 
          YEAH, BUT UP, BUT, UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN HOUSE WITH THAT. 
          WE HAD A REASON, BUT I'M NOT INTERESTED IN CHANGING IT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE A REASON WHY WE DID IT ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, THEY CHANGED IT ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR HIGHLY PUBLICIZED, UH, HERE IN THE CITY. 
          AND WE HAD SOME PRIOR INTELLIGENCE THAT THERE WOULD BE, UH, SOME DISRUPTIVE, UH, DEMONSTRATIONS. 
          AND SO WITH THAT WAS A REALLY A DEFENSIVE MEASURE. 
          NO, NO, IT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH, THEY ARE, THEY ARE, THEY ARE A GRIP THAT HAS NOT CAUSED ANY PROBLEMS. AS FAR AS I KNOW, WITHIN THE CITY WITH REGARDS TO THAT, UH, PICKETING PERMITS, UH, IT MIGHT BE THAT, UH, CHIEF, UH, BUMGARNER COULD LOOK AT IT AND COULD BE THAT WE COULD GO BACK TO THE OLD ONE OR MAYBE EVEN TO A DIFFERENT ONE. 
          I'LL ASK HIM TO RE-LOOK AT IT. 
          HOW WAS THE OLD ONE? ONE DAY L ONE I THINK WAS 24 HOURS. 
          WASN'T IT? YEAH. 
          SO IN YOUR OPINION, MAN, IT, WE GOT AN ELECTION COMING UP. 
          WE'VE ASKED THEM 60 DAYS, WE'RE MOVING THEM COMMISSIONERS UP THERE. 
          I SEE A LOT, A LOT OF TICKETS IN THE FUTURE VERY POSSIBLE. 
          BUT IF YOU ALREADY SEE THEM, WHY WOULD YOU MAKE, IF YOU ALREADY SEE THOSE TIMES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE THINKING AND COMING UP AND THE ELECTIONS, NOT WHAT IS THE POINT OF TAKING 24 HOURS? YOU GUYS KNOW WHO WE ARE. 
          YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH 24. 
          I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BOTH OF THEM KNOW THAT THE 24 WOULD BE BETTER THAN SENDING IT TO. 
          I THINK THE PROBLEM IS NOT LOCAL PEOPLE. 
          I THINK THE PROBLEM IS, UH, TO PREVENT, UH, PROBLEMS WITH OUT OF TOWN GROUPS THAT MIGHT SHOW UP WHO COULD BE A SEVERE PROBLEM FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE ONE LAW FOR THE LOCALS AND ANOTHER LAW FOR SOMETHING BEFORE SOMEBODY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          I THINK THAT'S, THAT MAY BE THE CATCH 22 THAT'S GODDESS. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH 24 HOURS, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN GROUPS THAT MIGHT SHOW UP ON OUR DOORSTEP. 
          IF WE HAD A ONE HOUR, YOU KNOW, INSTANCE PERMIT, THERE MIGHT BE SOME GROUPS SHOW UP ON OUR DOORSTEP THAT NEITHER I NOR YOU WOULD WANT MARCHING DOWN OUR STREET. 
          RIGHT. 
          MAX? I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          MR. FREEZE, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THAT IF THAT GROUP WOULD'VE CAME TO NEWTON, IT WOULDN'T HAVE MATTER ABOUT NO PERMIT, IF YOU WOULD'VE BEEN . 
          SO THAT MAY BE THE PROBLEM. 
          I'M NOT SAYING IT WOULD WORK. 
          I'M NOT SAYING IT WOULDN'T WORK. 
          I'M SIMPLY SAYING THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THING. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF FOR THE WAITING PERIOD, MAN. 
          AND I'LL ALSO SAY THAT IT WAS NOT JUST FOR THAT GROUP THAT, UH, THAT KIND OF CONTINGENCY, UH, WARNING WAS PUT IN AND OTHER GROUPS STILL EXISTS. 
          THAT COULD CAUSE SOME SERIOUS DISRUPTION. 
          IF THEY GAVE US VERY LITTLE NOTICE AND CAME INTO TOWN, I'M HOLDING THAT WHOLE GROUP UP MY SECOND FLOOR OUT, DOWN, I'M GOING TO TURN THEM LOOSE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED. 
          I GOT A QUARTER OF A TURPENTINE OUT OF THE DAY. 
          I SAID FROM THE TAR AND FEATHERS. 
          WELL LOOK, IF YOU COME UP HERE WITH SAY EVERY TWO HOURS AND YOU LEAVE WITH 24 HOURS, I USED TO HEAR ALL MY LIFE AS A KID. 
          DID YOU CAN'T FIGHT CITY HALL. 
          CAN I HEAR YOU SAYING THAT IF YOU LEFT HERE WITH 24 HOURS, THAT YOU CAN COME UP AND GO TO CITY HALL AND COME AWAY WITH SOMETHING? I HAVE NO. 
          WELL, I JUST WANT TO HEAR THAT IT CAN BE DONE. 
          I WENT ALL MY LIFE. 
          I HEARD IT CAN'T BE THE, UM, USUALLY WHEN YOU HEAR SOMEBODY SAY THAT YOU CAN'T FIGHT CITY HALL, THAT'S SOMEBODY THAT AIN'T NEVER TRIED TO FIGHT. 
          SIT AT HOME. 
          THEY'RE THE ONES WHO SAID IT WOULD A BREAKFAST TABLE AND SAY, WELL, THEY AIN'T KNOW. 
          I KNEW IT. 
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I GOT NEWS FOR THEM. 
          THAT CAN, PEOPLE WOULD BE AMAZED HOW MUCH POWER THEY HAVE IF THEY USE IT. 
          ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          SO, SO YOU WANT TWO MINUTES OR 24 HOURS. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. 
          YEAH. 
          DO YOU WANT US TO LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS OR 24 HOURS, 24 HOURS BETWEEN 24 HOURS. 
          I DON'T INVESTIGATE EVEN AT 24 HOURS. 
          I MEAN, IF THAT WORKS FINE, YOU KNOW, IT'S EITHER DOWN THE ROAD, WE SEE WHAT WE MAY. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S THE THIRD TIME I'M GOING TO GO AFTER CHEAPER. 
          THIS AIN'T A PROBLEM POINT FOR WHILE THIS INVALUABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          I'LL BRING IT BACK. 
          LET'S GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE POLICE TO, UM, BEFORE WE CONTINUE THIS NUMBER FIVE MAY TAKE UP A LITTLE TIME, BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE HERE WITH AN ITEM ON A CONSENT GENERAL CONSENT AGENDA. 
          AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD SKIP THAT AND GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH TO THE WHOLE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          NUMBER NINE, PULL OFF NUMBER NINE. 
          WHAT ELSE? I WANTED TO PULL 13 OR 13. 
          W WE'LL LEAVE NINE IN, BUT WE'LL VOTE FOR THE CONSENT OF GENTLEMEN, BUT LET DOM PULL OFF. 
          NUMBER 13. 
          I KNEW HE'D DO THAT. 
          WHEN THE RICE I'VE GOT CHEWED OFF MY PANTS. 
          WELL, I CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          SCHOOLING ITEM 13, EIGHT, I'M SORRY. 
          THE MAYOR ONE ITEM NUMBER 11, ADOPT ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A PORTION OF GEORGE STREET. 
          AS THE INTERSECTION POWER STREET, HIS TOUR BUS PARKING. 
          THERE WERE SOME REFERENCES IN THAT. 
          DID IT CHANGE THEN JAMES, THE SAME PLACE CORRECTLY, IDENTIFY THE ONE THAT PASSED OUT ON THIS END SO WE CAN SUBSTITUTE THAT. 
          NO REASON WHY YOU CAN'T GO AHEAD. 
           WELL MAP BACK UP, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE'VE SET THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, CHANGES, CHANGES DUE TO ITEM. 
          UH, THAT ATTORNEY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION ITEM 11, EXCEPT FOR 13, 13, SECOND. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROAD PLEASE. 
          MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW YOU WANT TO TAKE A WHACK AT 13 OR NORMALLY WITH NUMBER FIVE? WELL, WENT THROUGH WITH FOUR. 
          YEAH, WE THREW IT FOR US. 
          THAT WAS IT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          SO WE THROW IT FOR THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THIS BEAR, MR. MR. POLICEMAN WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING  ARE WE ON NUMBER FIVE OR ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NUMBER 13? OH FIVE NUMBER FIVE. 
          I BET SHE'LL BE OKAY. 
          LASTLY. 
          CONSENTED, WICKED WITCH IS DEAD. 
          I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PROBLEM. 
          WE'LL PAY THE CALL. 
          NAH, YOU'RE GOING TO SIT IN THAT MOTION. 
          WHAT I MOVE WITH THAT WE PAID OUT ON 19 94, 95 TO THE COUNSELOR. 
          I THINK THAT POVERTY SET THEM. 
          I THINK THAT THAT WE SHOULD PAY OUR MEMBERSHIP DUES NOW. 
          SO THAT'S THE SECOND, RIGHT? ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT? WELL, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN OVER HERE HEARING IT ALL NIGHT LONG, BUT IN MY MIND GOT YOU TO GO AHEAD. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO SECOND. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT. 
          I'M STILL NOT SATISFIED WITH WHAT'S GONE DOWN THAT. 
          I THINK IT'S A LOT OF REDUNDANT SERVICES WE ALREADY PAID FOR. 
          I SAID, I THINK THAT THE PROBLEMS THERE, THEY MADE THEM CORRECT. 
          NOT CORRECTED YET. 
          WELL, LET'S PUT MY MONEY IN HERE. 
          OKAY. 
           I CAN'T EVEN SEE THAT FAR GOING THE GO AHEAD. 
          I AM ALSO NOT CONVINCED THAT THE PROBLEMS ARE ALL SOLVED THERE AND I DO NOT WALK THE BOAT TO RELEASE THE MONEY UNTIL WE HEAR THE REPORT FROM THE INVESTIGATION ONGOING INTO THE COP. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT REPORT IS GOING TO SAY. 
          AND I'M NOT, I DON'T WANT THE BOAT TO TURN THE MONEY LOOSE UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THE REPORT WILL SAY. 
          PURE AND SIMPLE. 
          WHEN WE REPORT SOON, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT 
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BARBARA BARBARA SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE US, OKAY. 
          UM, THE REPORTS BE FINAL WITHIN A MONTH WHO'S TO RECEIVE IT. 
          WE HAVE, AS BOARD MEMBERS HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE REPORT BY SEPTEMBER 24 KNOW THEY GAVE US SOME QUESTIONS TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT WE SHOULD RESPOND TO THAT. 
          AND IN LIEU OF THE ACTION THAT WE TOOK, UM, MANY OF THOSE SUCH PROBLEMS WILL BE RESOLVED. 
          HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT THE CONCRETE'S, UM, VERY EFFECTIVE. 
          I'M MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE SERVICES OF THIS CAR. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DO HAVE PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, ANYBODY WHO HAD THIS JACK STICK A CHANGE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PROBLEMS AND IT DOES NEED SOME TO GET A NEW DIRECTION. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AT CALM NOW, MUCH MORE AWARE OF THE THINGS IS GOING ON. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT THE COP WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE YOUR PROBLEM. 
          AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BUDGETED THE MONEY AND, AND WHEN WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO HOLD IT UP TO RECEIVE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON. 
          BUT, UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE KINDS OF THINGS CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE WITH REAL DRASTIC CHANGES AND MAJOR CHANGES THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE CAR RIGHT NOW. 
          AND IT WILL BE SOLVED. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE WOULD CALL THE MONEY UNTIL WE RECEIVE COPIES OF THE REPORT AND MAKE UP OUR OWN MINDS. 
          THAT IT'S TIME TO RELEASE THE FUNDS. 
          LET ME HAVE SOME DISCUSSION, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE AN ADDITION TO WHAT BOB LEE SAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THE NEWSREEL OF A COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT, THEY'VE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE LEADERSHIP, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR NEW COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT. 
          THEY HAVE ERADICATED THAT PROBLEM. 
          THEY STILL HAVE SOME SMALL PROBLEMS, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY NEED SUPPORT. 
          THEY NEED SUPPORT FROM THIS GOVERNING BOARD. 
          AND THE REASON IS THAT WHERE THERE ARE NUMEROUS REASONS, BUT SOME OF THE REASONS ARE THAT NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, THEY'RE OCCUPYING THE BULK OF THE, UH, THE OLD BELTS BUILDING THE OLD MARKET SQUARE. 
          AND, UH, WE DON'T NEED TO LOSE THOSE FOLKS FROM DOWNTOWN. 
          THEY HA THEY, THEY CURRENTLY HIRE ABOUT 30 TO 40 EMPLOYEES. 
          WELL, THAT WAS HALF A WHOLE HALF OF THE EMPLOYEES LIVE IN THE CITY OF NEWBURN. 
          I MEAN, THEY BUY ELECTRICITY FROM THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, THE PEOPLE WHO EAT LUNCH THERE, THEY EAT IN DOWNTOWN NEWBURN. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING TO REVITALIZE DOWNTOWN. 
          AND THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS TO VOTE AGAINST, UH, PAYING OUT DUDES TO CALL AND THEN THE BOY AND MAKE A DECISION. 
          WELL LET'S, IF NEW-BORN DON'T SUPPORT US, THAT'S MOVE OUT CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS ELSEWHERE. 
          WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. 
          WE DON'T NEED TO BE GETTING INTO A DEBATE ABOUT WHAT THE ARTISTS ARE GOING TO SEE ABOUT CALL WHAT IF IT COMES ABOUT ON FABLE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. 
          IT'S UP TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO HANDLE THOSE PROBLEMS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ON THOSE PROBLEMS, TRY TO SOLVE THEM. 
          I MEAN, THEY'RE ALREADY MAKING SOME POSITIVE STEPS TO GET THAT ORGANIZATION BACK ON TRACK AND THEY DON'T NEED US TO BE DOUBTING. 
          WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDERS, BARE THE HEROIN, WHATEVER PROBLEMS THAT THEY THEY HAVE HAD IN THE PAST, THEY'RE DOING IT. 
          AND PAMLICO COUNTY SAW FIT TO REJOIN CAR AND THEY DON'T NEED US BILLING OUT AT THIS HOUR. 
          WE NEED TO BE SUPPORTING THEM ALSO. 
          I MEAN, I CAN SEE IT, THEY HAVE PROBLEMS AND THEY WEREN'T ADDRESSING IT, BUT THEY ARE ADDRESSING IT. 
          WE GOT AN ABLE TO REMEMBER FROM THIS BOARD, WHO'S ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTOR OF NEWSREEL COUNCIL, GOVERNMENT PROPERLY. 
          SHE'S SATISFIED THAT THINGS ARE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          I'M SATISFIED. 
          AND WE ALL NEED TO BE SATISFIED BECAUSE COD BENEFITS NEWBURN BEING RIGHT HERE. 
          I MEAN, I JUST THINK DON AND THE REST OF YOU, BUT HOW MANY OR HOW LONG THE OMAR SQUARE WAS VACANT BEFORE THE NEWSREEL COUNCIL GOVERNMENT DECIDED TO MOVE IN. 
          IT WAS JUST THINK OF A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT THEY, UH, THEY EMPLOY IN THIS CITY. 
          JUST THINK OF, UH, HOW MANY HIGH PAYING JOBS THAT THE CITY PROVIDES. 
          NOT MANY, JUST THINK OF THE FACT THAT ONE IN FIVE PERSONS IN THIS TOWN IS A BELOW THE POVERTY LEVEL. 
          WE NEED CALM. 
          WE NEED JOBS. 
          WE DON'T NEED TO BE CHASING THEM AWAY TO COUNSELOR. 
          WE NEED A JOB RIGHT HERE. 
          WE NEED TO SUPPORT TOM. 
          JUST THINK OF THE GRANTS THAT COB HAS PROVIDED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          ISN'T THAT RIGHT? MR. MR. HARTMAN, THEY'VE GIVEN US WHAT THEY THEY'VE GOTTEN ONE GRANT THAT THAT WOULD PAY OUT DUDE FOR 10 YEARS OR BETTER. 
          AND THINKING ABOUT CHILDREN WHO WERE HIRED WITH ADDICTIVE PA PROGRAM PROBLEMS OF CRIME THIS SUMMER, THEY WERE ABLE TO EMPLOY MORE CHILDREN, UH, 
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NEIGHBORHOOD CHILDREN HERE IN THE CITY OF NEW BURNETT AND OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE THAT MIGHT'VE GONE TO TOWN. 
          WE TALKING ABOUT AN AWFUL LOT OF MONIES THAT COME HERE FOR BERRY TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE RESCUE SQUAD EMERGENCY SERVICES. 
          THERE ARE SERVICES OF CARDS THAT THE TWO WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW OUR SERVICES. 
          LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION IS THAT WE CAN SAY SOMEWHERE THAT NOBODY HAS SAID, ALL I'VE EVER HEARD IS BAD ABOUT CAR. 
          YOU TELLING ME THIS STUFF, SHOW ME SOME NUMBERS. 
          THAT'S WHY SUPPORT DONE. 
          WELL, MAX, WE'LL WAIT TILL WE FIND OUT SOMETHING RIGHT TO SUPPORT WHENEVER YOU LIKE. 
          BUT ALL I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE NEUSE RIVER COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT AND BASED ON THE, UH, THE AUDIT REPORT THAT I DID HEAR THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE ADDRESSED WRITTEN, NOT IN REGARDS TO FISCAL MANAGEMENT OR THE, UH, THE STRUCTURE OF THIS, UH, COCK OR THE WAY THAT GRANTS ARE BEING FUNDED. 
          THEY HAVE NO QUESTION ABOUT, UM, MISAPPROPRIATION OF ANY OF THE FUNDS WE HAVE MADE, UH, RESPONSES TO THEM. 
          THE PROBLEMS WERE WITH THE DIRECTOR AND THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE DONE ON THE NEW BRAIN BASED ON SOMETHING THAT HE DID PERSONALLY, EVERYTHING THAT THEY ADDRESSED. 
          I MEAN, LET ME JUST, JUST DO ONE LITTLE 10 FALL PROBABLE HERE BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF Y'ALL A WHOLE LOT MORE FAMILIAR WITH CARS THAN I AM BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN AROUND A LOT LONGER, BUT I JUST LIKED TO POLL THE BOARD AT THE TIME AND ASK IF THEY THINK THAT COLLEGE IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR IN A BETTER DIRECTION THAN IT WAS IN THE PAST TO YOU DON. 
          WELL, I GOT SOME COMMENTS. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM. 
          AND I MADE AS THE CAMP WAS POINTING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, THE WRONG DIRECTION, NO DIRECTION AT ALL. 
          I WAS SPINNING ROUND AND ROUND, WELL FIGHT AND REMOVE MR. , WILL YOU REMOVE A LOT OF THE ATTITUDE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE WITH COCK? SO YOU WOULD THINK IT WAS AT LEAST, BUT EVEN IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IT TOOK THE STATE COMING IN AND SAY, YOU DIDN'T GET RID OF THIS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE YOU DOWN AND THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. 
          WHAT DID NO? WELL,  LET ME SAY, BASED ON THE INFORMATION I READ WITH SANDRA, THAT'S THE CONCLUSION. 
          I AGREE, OKAY. 
          THAT THE STATE WAS THREATENING TO POOL THE JET, THE JOB PROGRAM OUT OF CALLED PERIOD, UNLESS WE WIN. 
          AND THAT'S THE IMPRESSION I GOT AND HE HAS A COMPONENT THAT CONDITION HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED. 
          I TRUST BARBARA AND JOHN EXPLICITLY. 
          I HAVE NO QUALMS WHATSOEVER, WHATEVER THEY DO ON THERE. 
          BUT BARBARA AND JOHN ARE TWO PEOPLE. 
          AND I'VE SEEN THAT MOMENT IN ACTION AND BOARD, LIKE I HAVE SAID, I HAVE SEEN IT. 
          IT'S FULL OF SPRAYING THE FOOD AND BUILDS UP IN ONE LAND AND HANDLES A BILL FOOD, GO HAND IN HAND IN ON LIFT THAT SITUATION CORRECTLY. 
          THE NEXT DIRECTOR WITHIN THREE OR FOUR YEARS, IT WILL BE THE SAME BOAT OR PHOTOS IN AND DONE. 
          HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN PAMLICO COUNTY GETTING BACK INTO IT AFTER BEING AGAINST THE CALL? I'M NOT A PERSON WITH PARTICULAR. 
          THE THING I'M SUPPOSED TO IS THAT IT TELLS, LET ME HIT THIS THING. 
          I JUST WANT TO GO DOWN TO BOARD ONE TIME AND THEN Y'ALL CAN HAVE A FREE FOR ALL THERE. 
          YOU FEEL LIKE IT IT'S BETTER THAN MAC. 
          DO YOU FEEL LIKE, DO I GET TO QUALIFY THAT  LEFT RIDER? I, 100% WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE GOALS OF THE COP. 
          AND MOST OF WHAT HAS GONE ON IN THE PAST, WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE BUDGET, IT WAS ALTIMA MAX SPRINGS, WHO SAID, I MOVED, WE PUT THE VIEWS MONEY IN THE BUDGET, BUT WITHHOLDING PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THEIR MANAGEMENT PROBLEMS. I SUPPORT THE COD. 
          I DO NOT WANT TO VOTE TO RELEASE THOSE PACKS FUNDS PAID BY THE TAXPAYERS OF NORTH. 
          WE HAVE BEEN BLACKMAILED FOR YEARS. 
          THIS BOARD HAS BEEN BLACKMAIL FOR YEARS BY ROY VOGEL SAYING, WE'LL LET THEM PULL OUT OF THE CAR AND WE'LL JUST PULL ALL THESE JOBS OUT OF NOWHERE TO TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          AND THAT HAS BEEN THE MAJOR REASON GIVEN FOR VOTING TO STAY IN IT, GIVE THEM THE TAX DOLLARS. 
          SO THEY WON'T MOVE THEIR OFFICE. 
          I WOULD DO THAT TOO. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY KEEP SAYING. 
          NOBODY'S CONVINCED ME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE THEIR OFFICES FOR THAT. 
          AND IF, AND IF THAT'S THE WAY THEY OPERATE, I WORK TO SUPPORT THEM. 
          BUT I SUPPORT THE, UH, THE GOALS OF THE COCK. 
          I THINK IT'S TOO BIG. 
          I THINK NINE COUNTIES IS TOO MANY COUNTIES FOR IT. 
          IT LOSES FOCUS, BUT I DO. 
          AND I DO BELIEVE THEY'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          I'M NOT SURE THEY'VE REACHED IT YET. 
          I WANT TO SEE THE REPORT TO SEE WHAT THEY APPROVE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I SAY, I BELIEVE THEY'RE HEADED. 
          THEY'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BY GETTING RID OF THE BAD APPLE AT THE TOP THAT 
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YOU WON'T, YOU WON'T HIT IT IN AT THE CAMPUS DIRECTION HAS IMPROVED BY FEEDING. 
          I SAY, THEY'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          YES. 
          I REALLY FIRMLY BELIEVE IT. 
          AND I DON'T THINK A COUPLE MORE WOMEN PAN AM STOCK WHEN THEY STARTED REDOING THE MEXICO 15 CENTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I KNOW WHAT I'VE SEEN. 
          I'M HEARING STUFF I'VE NEVER HEARD BEFORE, BUT I KNOW WHAT I'VE HEARD IN THE PAST. 
          I'VE HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HELPED THE COUNTIES A LOT. 
          WE'VE GOT A PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 
          WE GO IN FOR A LOT OF GRANTS ON OUR OWN. 
          NOW SOMEBODY SHOWS ME WHERE WE GET GRANTS AND WE MET, YOU KNOW, WE'D GET BENEFITS FROM THEM AND THEY GET THEM. 
          THEY'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, WHICH I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO GET ON RIGHT. 
          TRACKS. 
          BUT I WANT TO SEE WHAT  TRYING TO GET BETTER. 
          WHY DON'T YOU THINK? YEAH. 
          I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE IF THIS GOVERNING BOARD TONIGHT VOTED TO NOT PAY THOSE DUES, BUT THEN YOU THINK, AND I THINK THEY'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          AND I REALLY HOPE THAT THIS BOAT PASSES THE NIGHT BECAUSE ABOUT, HEY, I CAN ALWAYS SAY I'M A ROOKIE, BUT ALL I CAN SAY IS TO FOLLOW ONCE UPON A TIME. 
          I BELIEVE HE WAS A PSYCHOLOGIST. 
          I'M NOT SURE. 
          SO I WENT THERE ECT, SEE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW HOW WE ARE, WE CAN BARELY SQUEAK BY DEEP MAYBE, BUT ANYWAY, COULDN'T DO IT SATURDAY. 
          BUT THERE WAS A GUY CALLED SCANNER AND HE HAD SOME CHICKENS AND CHICKENS. 
          AND EVERY TIME THEY HIT THE RIGHT BUTTONS, HE'D SHOOT A LITTLE CORN TO THEM. 
          AND IF THEY HIT THE WRONG BUTTON, WHY THEY GOT NO CORN, YOU KNOW, NOW ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS POLL THE BOARD. 
          AND IF THE BOARD THINKS THAT THE CAR IS HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR A BETTER DIRECTION, OR IS IMPROVING THIS YEAR FOR THE STATE, HAVE TO GIVING THEM MONEY FOR ALL THESE YEARS TO NOW TAKE IT AWAY. 
          WE CAUSED THE CHICKEN. 
          BOY, IF YOU PUT THIS IN THE PAPER, THEY GONNA RUN ME OUT OF TOWN, THE JACKET. 
          LET ME SAY THAT IF THEY GET BETTER AT WHAT THEY DO, AND THEN WE'VE BEEN PAYING THEM IN THE PAST, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE HE WOULD BE GOOD TO YANK THE MONEY OUT FROM UNDER HIM AT THIS POINT. 
          AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. 
          AND I'M ONLY ONE SEVENTH OF THE BOARD AND I'M SURELY, WELL, WE GOT THE VOTES AND I SPOKE SO Y'ALL CAN HANG IT UP AND HAVE IT. 
          THEY WON'T EVEN BE, PLEASE CAN WE  I DON'T KNOW, WITHOUT IT, THIS, THE STATE IS LOOKING INTO THAT. 
          THAT'LL BE THE STATE'S JOB TO FIGURE IT OUT. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD. 
          WE HAVE, I'M NOT SAYING GOSSIP BOARD COTTON MORE NOW THAN I EVER HAD IS GONE. 
          AND ROY DIDN'T MOVE TO TURN ME OFF NOW. 
          I AGREE AND HAVE A GRIEVANCE OFF FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          BUT AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I DON'T TRUST THE CAR, BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M TRUMPS EVERYTHING. 
          YEAH, IT IS. 
          AND NOW THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN, I ONLY GOT TO WAIT A MONTH TO GET THE REPORT. 
          AND I SAY, WHY NOT? WAIT A MONTH? AND SEE, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GO BANKRUPT. 
          THE FACT THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME CHANGES. 
          IT SHOWS THAT, OKAY, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE'VE GONE TO ALL THIS TRUFFLES TO GET RID OF A PROBLEM. 
          AND I CANNOT BE FED WITH THE NEWS AND THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I HEARD IN THAT REPORT. 
           BUT I CAN SAY FOR THAT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THAT THEY HAVE A NEW DIRECTION AND A NEW CENTER FOR WHAT I SAW IN THE PAPER, SOMEBODY WAS STEPPING FORWARD AND SPEAKING UP, THAT WAS FOR SURE. 
          WELL, LET ME ASK YOU ONE OTHER CLAIM THAT CENSUS REPORT BUSINESS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP SINCE YOU WERE ON THAT BOARD. 
          ARE YOU AWARE, OR DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT COUNTER WITH, FOR QUOTE UNQUOTE, THIS WILL BE, WILL THIS BE SOME SORT OF A LITMUS TEST? YOU KNOW, YOU DIP IT IN THE WATER AND IT TURNS BLUE. 
          IS IT GOING TO BE A DOCUMENT THAT THICK THIS, THIS FULL OF WONDROUS THING AND STILL A MONTH FROM NOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW ANY MORE IN REALITY THAN WE KNOW NOW, THEN, THEN, THEN A CURSORY GENERAL EXAMINATION OF WHETHER WE APPROVED IT. 
          THERE HADN'T BEEN A BETTER DIRECTION THAN THEY WERE BEFORE. 
          WHAT IS YOUR,  THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU WERE FINDING THAT REPORT IS RELATED TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE NEW SUPER CAPSULE OF THE OLD ADMINISTRATION. 
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AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE Y'ALL. 
          WE JUST GOT, WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. 
          SO THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THEY ADDRESSED, EVERYTHING, SEVEN ITEMS RELATE TO THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF. 
          AND I WOULD PRESUPPOSE THAT IF THERE WERE IDENTIFYING PROBLEMS, THAT IT WOULD BE FOOLISH TO IDENTIFY THEM AND NOT TO ALSO HAVE A CURE ALONG WITH THIS PROBLEM. 
          SO THEREFORE, WHILE I WOULD EXPECT ANY REPORT FOR THEM TO GIVE, TO BE A HISTORICAL REPORT, ALONG WITH WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET ANY REAL GOOD OUT OF THAT WOULD BE TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR, TO SEE IF THEY CARRY WITH WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO AGAIN. 
          AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE. 
          ONE OF US, WHETHER WE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR WHETHER THEY'RE NOT. 
          BUT WITH THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO GET ME SOME MORE MOTION. 
          WHAT WAS THAT? THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE WILL HOLD THE MONEY UNTIL THEY WILL HAVE A SANCTITY. 
          WE HAVE A SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY DISCUSSION WE'VE WALKED OUT TO A LET'S CALL IT A ROAD. 
          NO, NO, YES, NO. 
          YES. 
          I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHETHER THIS FITS AS A TIE BREAKER OR WHAT, BUT WHO CARES? IT DOES FIT AS A TIE BREAKER. 
          YOU MEAN I'M THE GUY ALL THIS TIME IN HERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT UP. 
          YOU HADN'T REALLY MADE ME MAD. 
          HE DIDN'T SMILE AT ME. 
          I'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE, UH, TO, TO GO AHEAD AND PAY THE THING NOW. 
          SO THAT'S A NO VOTE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO I WANT TO MAKE, I WANT TO RENEW MY MOTION THAT WE PAID THE DUES NANA DISCUSSION, THAT THOSE WERE PARTNERS THAT REQUIRED A DISCUSSION. 
          YES, YES, YES, YES. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS JUST THE WAY MY MIND RATIONALIZES IT. 
          IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, HEY, YOU WON'T BE THE FIRST GUY ANALYSIS. 
          GOING IN. 
          IF YOU CAN KEEP IT SHORT, I NEED A DIE. 
          MY NAME IS JOHNNY  AND FIRST THAT'S LACKING. 
          IN FACT, BARBARA , JOSH DID ON THE NEWSROOM, CASA REFERRED TO HIM AND SAID, I REPRESENT THE COUNTY ITSELF. 
          AND I CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING TO CLOSE THIS GAP TO SEE THAT THINGS IT'S GOING TO AFFECT NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT THE WHOLE NINE COUNTIES THAT WE ARE REPRESENTED, THAT THE BOARD BILL SERVED, THESE CONDOMS AND REHAB BEEN HAVING QUITE A FEW PROBLEMS AND BACK DOWN AND SAY THAT AT ONE TIME, WHEN A VOTE COME UP AT ALL WAYS, WHETHER THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF THE DIRECTOR, BUT SINCE BARBARA CAME ON BOARD AND SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN. 
          SO WE HAVE BEEN FIRED THAT PEOPLE WOULD GET THE JUST DUES FROM THE BOARD, ESPECIALLY THE LOAN PROGRAM THAT WE FOUND THAT THE NARCAN NOT TO SEE THE LOANS AS IT SHOULD HAPPEN, BECAUSE I FELT STRONGLY THAT THE LOAN WAS SET UP TO HELP SMALL BUSINESS MAN, AND ANYONE THAT REALLY WANTED TO GO ON OFFENSE, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE NOT GETTING THE LOAN, BUT WE HAD THIS ISSUE AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT WE WOULD GET ALL THE MONEY IN THIS COMMUNITY AND OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. 
          PEOPLE. 
          THIS ORGANIZATION HAVE HELPED QUITE A FEW ON THE NEWFOUND RESCUE SQUAD. 
           WITH ALL THE MONEY TO BE SPENT IN THE OLD BUILDING. 
          WE HAVE NO IDEA THE MONEY THAT HAS BEEN SPENT IN THE OLD ONE. 
          IT WASN'T DIFFERENT THAN MAN IN THE DOWNTOWN. 
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AT ONE TIME, I WOULD SAY I WAS ABOUT READY TO GIVE IT UP BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE I'VE GONE TO A MEETING AND SEE LIKE A BULL CALF. 
          AND ERIC NEVER SPOKE TO THEM. 
          IT WASN'T NO QUESTION, BUT I SAID, IF I LEAVE BEN, WON'T NOBODY BE THERE. 
          THE SAME THING IN THE SAME THING BY ME BEING THERE, IT DIDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE ABOUT BARBARA COMING TO BULLET  THAT'S OKAY. 
          IT HASN'T MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY THE CITY REPRESENTATIVES. 
          WELL, FROM THE LAST TWO EXECUTIVE SESSION WE HAD, I THINK IT'S ALL TO LIVE. 
          A LOT OF THINGS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON THAT FOR NOW, WE'LL BE THERE FOR FOUR AND A HALF, FIVE HOURS JUST IN THAT, SITTING IN THERE, LISTENING TO WHAT SOMEONE ELSE SAID. 
          IT WAS A TALKING TO ALL THE LOUD DISCUSSION GOING ON LOUD, A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AND KNOW THAT IF WE REVERT THAT THAT WAS THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. 
          AND I THINK THE BOARD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF ACTUALLY WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          AND  THE NEW ONE WAS UP THERE. 
          AND I CAN SAY THAT THEIR PRESIDENT AND EXECUTIVE BULL, THOSE PEOPLE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB IN THEIR DECISION. 
          AND THEY STOOD BEHIND THAT AND SAID, THEY TOOK A LOT OF RESPITE ABOUT THE DECISION THEY HAD MADE. 
          BUT THEN I CAN SAY, DON'T BE STUPID BEHIND EVEN KNOWING IT ALL. 
          CAUSE A LOT OF THE FORCES WAS COMING AGAINST THEM, BUT THEY STILL STAY WITH THAT DECISION. 
          AND I WOULD EXPECT EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE NEW GROUP OF COUNSELORS, GOV BY STANDING BY THE CITY SAYING, YOU SAY IT'S GETTING BETTER. 
          IT'S GOOD. 
          TO CONGRATULATE BARBARA  NUMBER 13. 
          NUMBER 13. 
          THE QUESTION I HAD WAS HE USED TO PICK UP THERE TO THE BUDGET. 
           LIKE A DEPARTMENT BUDGET, WHICH ELECTRIC OPERATIONS. 
          NO, I THINK IN SERVICE, I BELIEVE IT'S IN SERVICE DEPARTMENT. 
          I'LL GET IT FOR YOU. 
          THEN. 
          I LIKE THE, UH, AND I READ THAT ONE A DAY. 
          I WAS PRETTY PRETTY TAKEN BECAUSE IT SAID THE PROVEN TRADING IN TWO, TWO NEWS, ONE DIES DRIVE FOR TWO NEW TRUCKS. 
          I WAS GOING TO CALL YOU UP AND TELL YOU I CAN STAY ON THE FIELD AND YOU CAN TRADE ONE FOR TWO. 
          BUT THEN I READ THE SMALL PRINT. 
          BUT ANYWAY, UH, WAS THAT THE ONLY THING YOU HAD I'LL GET THE PLACE FOR YOU TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE NUMBER 13, DISCUSSION SECOND FROM RICHMOND SECOND. 
          OH COLORADO. 
          UM, YES, YES, YES, YES. 
          APPOINTMENTS. 
          AND I, I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING SOMEWHERE. 
          WHEN I READ THIS THE OTHER DAY WHILE I WAS SUPPOSED, THEY HAVE TO, THERE'S NOTHING IN MY BOOK. 
          SO HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION. 
          I KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT MY BOOK ANYMORE. 
          WHAT HAPPENED? AND I THOUGHT IT WAS HERE ON THE 16. 
          OH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THE PART WHERE IT SAYS YOU ARE THE MAYOR, YOU SIT IN THE BACK, YOU'RE THE GUY WITH THE HAMMER. 
          BUT A LOT OF TIMES THESE HUMAN RELATIONS  ON THE HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION. 
          NO, THEY HAVE, THEY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY PROBABLY HAVE NOT BEEN REALLY IN EXISTENCE OVER THE LAST YEAR. 
          I'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVE LATELY. 
           SECOND HUMAN RELATIONSHIP MISSION JUST INVOLVED IN IT. 
           CABLE. 
          A DECISION ABOUT THAT UNTIL WE HAVE, I DON'T SEE ANY POINT IN THE POLISHING IT. 
          IF WE NEED THEM IN A HURRY, THEY'RE THERE AND THEY'RE APPOINTED AND WE'RE SITTING TOGETHER. 
          YOU'LL NEED THEM FOR WHAT? THE TIMES OF SHAME LAST DAY FOR THE WORK SESSION, THAT'S ABOUT WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT HAS DONE, WHAT IT WAS PUT IN THAT A SONG. 
          IN FACT, I HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE STATE HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU ADD A WORK SESSION 
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TO DISCUSS THE IMPORTANCE OF HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. 
          SO THAT MIGHT GET CONTACTED WHEN WE NEED SOME NEW PEOPLE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? UNDER APPOINTMENTS, NANA, HE FILLED OUT ONE OF YOUR SHEETS. 
          I DON'T HAVE IT. 
          NOBODY ELSE HAS ONE. 
          UH, WE HAD, UH, SHOULD WE MENTIONED THE ROLE, I GUESS I DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS MAX. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL JUST LEAVE THAT. 
          LET'S MOVE ON TO SOMETHING. 
          WHEN Y'ALL BEING INTERESTED IN MISCELLANEOUS, YOU GOT A THING DOWN OTHER THAN THAT THING IS STANDING HERE. 
          YOU WITHOUT THEM OUT, I THINK IT MAKES YOU BETTER LUCK. 
          AND BY THE WAY, I HATE TO SAY THAT AS A MAN, BUT ANYWAY. 
          YEAH, IT DOES. 
          IT MAKES HIM LOOK LIKE A, WELL FOR WHITE NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT MAKES THEM LOOK LIKE A COMPUTER PROGRAMMER AND GOT STUNG BY BEES. 
          THERE YOU GO COMPETE OVER BARBARA. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS GET FOR TALKING SO MUCH TONIGHT. 
          UM, I HAVE A SITUATION THAT I NEED SOME HELP WITH. 
          AND I SPOKEN TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 
          WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING LAST NIGHT AND IT'S ABOUT THE PLEASANT HILL COMMUNITY. 
          UH, IT'S A UNIQUE KIND OF SITUATION IN THAT, UH, IN WEST PLEASANT HILL, IT WAS A SMALL LITTLE DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE WHO ARE LOW INCOME AND THEY HAVE LAND BACK THERE. 
          AND I, THIS IS A MAKING IT SORT OF DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO DEVELOP IT. 
          AND THEN THE WAY THAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO DEVELOP. 
          AND THAT IS THAT THEY WANT TO PUT SOME MOBILE HOMES ON SOME OF THE LOTS. 
          AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS MANY YEARS AGO WHEN THEY SAID THAT THERE WAS A GROUP OF POCKETS THAT THEY HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY BUILT THE HOMES AND THEY HAD THIS LAND. 
          SO YOU CAN LIVE JUST ABOUT LIKE YOU WANT TO, IF YOU, YOU WANT TO GIVE IT TO YOUR SON AND HE COULD PUT A TRAILER ON THE BACK OF IT. 
          AND NOW ON THIS IS MAKING IT DIFFICULT. 
          AND THEN MANY OF THEM OUT THERE WHO, THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN DEVELOP THERE IS FOR THEIR FAMILY TO LIVE THERE. 
          SO, SO IT WAS A FAMILY KIND OF THING. 
          BUT OUR ORDINANCES REQUIRE THAT THE PATH THAT THEY HAVE USED TO GO FROM WHAT HAS TO ASK TO BE APPROVED STREET, THAT THEY CAN'T, I MEAN THAT A PRIVATE STREET THAT THEY HAVE TO DEVELOP AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT. 
          SO THEY TOOK THE MOBILE HOME. 
           WHAT A THREE-WAY STREET, I PUBLIC STREET. 
          AND IN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS,  NO, IT'S LIKE A RULE KIND OF ZONING THAT WE GAVE IT. 
          AND IF IT WAS REZONED TO RA SIX AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DIVIDE THE LOTS OF SMALLER LOTS AND GIVE IT TO THE CHILDREN SO THAT THEY CAN DEVELOP IT, PEOPLE WITH THE HOME MOBILE HOME. 
          BUT I ORDINANCES SORT OF PROHIBIT THAT. 
          SO LAST NIGHT WE HAD A MEETING WITH, UM, THE PLANNING OFFICE, OUR PLANNING OFFICE, AND I HAVE ASKED THEM, YOU KNOW, LIKE FOR GUESTS TO BE THINKING ABOUT IT, IF THEY WOULD LOOK INTO IT MORE AND MAKE SOME SUGGESTIONS TO US THAT A WORK SESSION AS TO HOW WE CAN DEAL WITH THE SITUATION AND HELP THE PEOPLE OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND YOU KNOW, BETWEEN NOW AND WORK SESSION, IF YOU GET A CHANCE, ANY OF YOU TO RIDE OUT THERE, TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          THEN YOU CAN GET A FEEL FOR THE KIND OF FRUSTRATION THESE PEOPLE ARE HAVING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US TO MAKE SOME CHANGES OR SOME VERISIGN TO MAKE SOME ALLOWANCES TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. 
          WELL, HE FAILED THAT HE WENT TO HELP HIM AND HE HAD TWO OTHER ALTERNATIVES, BUT HE WAS ASKING ME TODAY, IF THEY COULD BE ALLOWED TO WORK SESSION, TO LOOK INTO IT MORE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING HE WOULD SIMPLY AS WE CAN DO. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, THIS IS A CALL FOR A ZONING CHANGE. 
          IT'S GOING TO TAKE BACK TWO WEEKS, WEIGHT PUMPING HERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THAT I THINK THAT IT WORKS SESSION THAT WOULD GIVE US ENOUGH TIME SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE ON. 
          YES, THAT'S NO PROBLEM THESE RIGHT AFTER YOU GET A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM, I BELIEVE YOU ALL GOT A COPY OF THE LETTER OF AUGUST 29TH LISTING PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS, UH, WHICH FOR WHICH WE HAVE NO APPARENT REAL USE, IF THE DATA IS RIGHT. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH TO PUT THIS LAND BACK INTO USE FOR THE MOST PART. 
          THESE ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THE LOTS ARE NOT TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE 
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AND IT COULD GIVE SOME PEOPLE THE CHANCE TO BUILD SOME HOUSES. 
          IF WE JUST AUCTION THESE LOTS OFF, THERE'S SEVERAL IN PARTICULAR. 
          UH, ONE OF THEM IS 225 FEET BY 180. 
          NOW THAT'S A GOOD SIZE LOT. 
          AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT COULD BE THAT IT'S, UH, A GUY ON IN CYPRUS, THE STREETS ONE LOT BETWEEN THOSE TWO STREETS. 
          YEAH. 
          IT MAY BE POSSIBLE WITH THE ZONING THERE TO DIVIDE THAT INTO TWO LOTS AND SELL IT AS TWO LOTS. 
          SO TWO PEOPLE COULD WIND UP BUILDING A HOUSE. 
          DONALD, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LOT SIZE IS AND THAT, EXCUSE ME. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THING WITH THAT TOO, I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME LOTS ON IT. 
          IT MIGHT BE TOO SMALL TO BUILD IT DAY, BUT THE NEIGHBOR COULD, IT INCREASES PROPERTY. 
          THERE ARE THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED BY 150. 
          WE'VE GOT A 60 BY 1 59. 
          WE'VE GOT A ONE 30 BY 100, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL SMALLER ONES WHICH WE COULD AUCTION OFF TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE NEIGHBORS ON ONE SIDE MIGHT WANT TO BUY IT. 
          I WOULD AGREE. 
          AND THAT WAY THEY GAIN VALUE IN THEIR PROPERTY. 
          UH, THE CITY GETS RID OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IT HAS NO USE FOR. 
          ANYWAY, AS LONG AS THESE HAVE BEEN CHECKED BY THE CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND WE'RE SURE THAT THERE'S NO USE FOR THEM AT THIS TIME. 
          IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT THAT ONE ON SITE NEAR CYPRUS 2 25 BY 180 COULD CONCEIVABLY, I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE LOT. 
          COULD CONCEIVABLY BE TURNED INTO A LITTLE VEST POCKET PARK? I DON'T KNOW. 
          LET ME ASK A QUESTION. 
          THE ONE THAT'S OUTSIDE, BUT IS THAT THE ONE THAT BUTTS UP AGAINST THE CITY PROPERTY, THE RECREATION CENTER  GROUP, UH, OKAY. 
          AND ENDED UP NEEDING TO BE LOOKED AT. 
          I WAS UNDER THE THING THAT MOM ACTUALLY USED TO THE REAR, UH, THAT TOWARDS THE RAILROAD, IT'S ACTUALLY IN BEHIND THOSE HOURS, I ENDED UP  WELL, DON'T WE HAVE THAT. 
          THAT'S NOT A FUNCTION OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ANYBODY TO TAKE THAT LIST AND GO DOWN AND JUST SORT OF CATEGORIZE THEM AND SAY, WE THINK THAT THIS ONE HERE ON EITHER BE BOUGHT BY, THAT'S GOING TO RYAN AND THIS GUY ON THE LEFT, THIS ONE HERE, WE CAN CUT THEM AND DO SOMETHING WITH, OR FOR ME I NEEDED , I'LL HAVE TO MAKE MY OWN WITH YOUR, WHAT YOU'RE HEARING TO MAKE, STAY AWAY. 
          AND I WOULD AGREE WITH MATT. 
          I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO GO AHEAD AND DIRECT THE PLANNING OR THE ZONING DEPARTMENT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THEY'D GO AHEAD AND MAKE A NOTICE TO SELL THE PROPERTY LIKE MAXI. 
          I THINK MATT HAS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE WE JUST ON SOME RANCH PROPERTY, WE DID THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN, SO SOME OF THE OTHER CITY PARKS CAME BACK AND SAID THAT THEY KNEW THE PROPERTY POSSIBLY FOR VARIOUS OTHER THINGS. 
          IT'S SIMPLY A MATTER OF SURVEYING ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT PROPERTY WOULD COST. 
          IF IT'S CLEAR. 
          WELL, ANOTHER WORD SHALL WE, SHALL WE SAY? I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT I WAS DRIVING. 
          IS IT, WE DID GET THE, AND GET INVOLVED ON THE FRONT END. 
          SOME GUY MIGHT GET EXCITED AND SAY, OH YEAH, I'D REALLY LOVE TO HAVE THAT THING. 
          AND THEN HE COMES TO FIND OUT IT WAS AGAINST SOME LITTLE OF ORDINANCE OR WHATEVER WE'VE GOT. 
          AND NOW WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE OF THESE, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THESE PLANS ORDINANCES. 
          WON'T LET ME DO WHAT I WANTED TO DO WHEN WE WANT TO CHECK THAT OUT ON THE FRONT OF THIS GUY. 
          WELL, WE CAN DO ALL THE CHECKING. 
          I JUST, UH, I JUST FELT THAT IF WE'VE GOT PROPERTY LIKE THIS WE'VE ACQUIRED OVER THE YEARS, WE DON'T NEED IT. 
          LET'S SELL IT. 
          GET A FEW BUCKS OUT AND GIVE SOMEBODY A CHANCE TO ENLARGE THEIR LOT OR TO BUILD A HOUSE. 
          AND WHAT I'M PLAYING. 
          I LIKE TO CLEAR UP, I WAS ELECTED ON OCTOBER THE FIFTH, BUT I TOOK OFF IS DECEMBER THE 14TH, WHICH ONE OF THOSE COUNTS ON MY RECORD STATS? IS IT THE ELECTION OR DID THEY  MR. MOON, ONE THING YOU CAN DO TO STOP THE ROOKIE STAFF. 
          I LIKE THE ROOKIE STATUS. 
           THEN WE'LL BE ALL VETERANS IN THE LVP. 
          ONE MORE THING I WOULD LIKE TO COMMAND MR. COWARD AND THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO MADE UP THE COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY PICNIC THAT WAS HELD SATURDAY. 
          IT WAS A VERY FINE EVENT AND I ENJOYED IT VERY MUCH, BUT IT BROUGHT UP ONCE AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT QUITE A BIT, AND I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF YOU ABOUT IT IN PASSING. 
          UM, THERE'S ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE 
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WHO SPEND A LOT OF HOURS WORKING FOR THE CITY AND THEY DO NOT, THEY'RE NOT INVITED TO THAT PICNIC BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT AS SUCH CITY EMPLOYEES. 
          I THINK PERHAPS IF, IF YOU AGREE, IT'S TIME, WE START PLANNING THE SAME TYPE OF EVENT FOR OUR VOLUNTEER FIREMAN, AN ANNUAL FAMILY PICNIC WITH A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN ALONG THE LINES OF THE ONE HEALTH SATURDAY. 
          AND THAT ALSO BRINGS UP THE FACT THAT WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS LIKE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE AUXILIARY POLICE OFFICERS. 
          WE DID HAVE A LITTLE RECEPTION FOR THE APPOINTEES WHO SERVE ON THE VARIOUS BOARDS, BUT, UH, MR. HARTMAN ASSURES ME THAT, THAT, UH, HE CAN FIND THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO HAVE A PICNIC FOR THE VOLUNTEER FIREMAN. 
          IT'S NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE THERE, NOT THAT MANY VOLUNTEERS, IF THERE'S NOT THAT MANY, WHY DON'T WE JUST THROW THEM OUT WITH THE OTHER BUNCH OF LIKE THEY BELONG? ACTUALLY, I FEEL THEY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE IT FOR THEMSELVES. 
          I THINK THEY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THEIR OWN ADVANTAGE. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN EXPLORE THAT POSSIBILITY. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          BUT, UH, IN TALKING WITH TWO VOLUNTEER FIREMEN, I THINK THAT THEY WOULD RATHER, BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS OF THEIR JOB, BEING WITH THE OTHER VOLUNTEER FIREARMS, THEY ALL KNOW EACH OTHER AND THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T SEE THE CITY PEOPLE AS A DAY IN DAY OUT ROUTINE. 
          LIKE A LOT OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES ALL KNOW EACH OTHER  TO SAVE MONEY. 
          WELL, IT WON'T COST ANY LAST TWO SEPARATE EVENTS. 
          WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          IT'S JUST THAT IF WE WANT, I THINK THAT THE VOLUNTEER FIREMEN HAD BEEN OVERLOOKED IN THAT RESPECT AND ALSO THE VOLUNTEERS. 
          AND SO, AND YET I PERSONALLY, AND IT'S JUST MY FEELINGS THAT I THINK THAT THEY ALL DO. 
          I MEAN, THEY, THEY REALLY HAVE TO INTERFACE OF, SHOULD BE INTERFACING WITH A LOT OF HOMELESS FOLKS, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THE POLICE AND THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND DAN IS THE LIST THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WITHIN THEIR JOB AND I, I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY BETTER RELATIONS. 
          UH, CAN'T BE FORMED BY PEOPLE GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          WELL, HOW ABOUT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BEING TOGETHER COMING OUT OF, WE HAVE, PERHAPS HE'S NOT LISTENING SO I CAN SLIP A COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENT IN ONLY WANT IT THAT CAUGHT HIS ATTENTION, PERHAPS BOBBY AND, UH, AND RICHARD AND RICK TALKING OVER CENTRAL RICK IS A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN. 
          AND TO SEE WHICH WAY THE WIND'S BLOWING AND NO, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE HOLDING COMMITTED THERE. 
          THE THING TO DO IS GO BACK AND TALK TO THEM. 
          VOLUNTEERS, I THINK BE MIXED EMOTIONS EITHER WAY. 
          I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE DETERMINATION OF THIS BOARD. 
          THE BOARD WANTS TO HAVE A EXTRA PICNIC FOR THE VOLUNTEER POWER AND SAY, THE BOARD THINKS WE SHOULD INVITE HIM TO THE CITY PICNIC. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO. 
          I WAS INVITED TO SIT, PICK ME TO, AND THE OTHER VOLUNTEERS LIKE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF THEY, IF THEY ARE VIOLENT AND IF THEY ARE REALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND LEFT THE HEART, THEY'RE ALL RETIREES MAKE THEM, THEY WORK JUST AS HARD AS ANYBODY I'VE EVER SEEN TRAVIS POLICE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS EVERY POLICE DON'T GET PAID ANYTHING, BUT CAN YOU THINK OF A REASON THAT, I MEAN, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP FOR WHAT WOULD BE A REASON, SAY VOLUNTEER, FARM, AND A VOLUNTEER. 
          ANYBODY WOULDN'T WANT TO BE IN ON THE REGULAR PICNIC OR WHATEVER. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE AN ADVANTAGE FOR THE VOLUNTEERS TO COME TO THE CITY PICNIC BECAUSE THEY KNOW OFFEND A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS A HUGE CITY. 
          I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PART OF THAT OR I'M PART OF THEM. 
          I MEAN, I MIGHT SCARE THEM TO DEATH, BUT I KIND OF FEEL I DID. 
          I GREW UP A LOT OF THEM, THEM JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THEY OUGHT TO BE TREATED LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          AND EVERYBODY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PART OF THE SAME GAME. 
          YEAH. 
          I LIKE THE IDEA OF INVITE HIM IN HERE. 
          SOME OF US WILL BE THERE AND WE NEED THESE FOLKS TO BYE. 
          NOW HERE'S ONE THING ALSO TO CONSIDER WHEN I WAS, WHEN I WAS CONSIDERING THE POSSIBILITY OF, UH, ONE OF THESE FOR THE VOLUNTEER FIREMEN. 
          WHEN YOU THINK OF HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THEY SAVE US EACH YEAR, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PAID FULL. 
          FULL-TIME FIRING UP. 
          IF WE HAD A FULL-TIME DEPARTMENT, THEY SAVE US UP AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          THE THING THAT CAME TO MIND IS WHEN AS BUTTON COMPANY'S 150TH ANNIVERSARY, ATLANTIC NAME, OKAY, WELL, I THOUGHT IT WAS BUTTON. 
          OKAY. 
          ATLANTIC COMPANY IS IN, MAY SAY SAID ATLANTA, AND I'M OLDER THAN YOU. 
          I FORGET THAT HE USED TO GET STONED WHEN YOU GO OUT TO THE HOME, BUT, UH, HEY, LISTEN, I'M TRYING TO GET HIM A PICNIC IN MAY. 
          THEY WILL BE CELEBRATING THEIR 150TH ANNIVERSARY. 
          AND I THINK 
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THIS BE A STERLING TIME FOR SUCH AN EVENT, WHICH WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WAS WORKING ON MY MIND WHEN I SAID HABITS SEPARATE. 
          BUT IT WAS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL WEEK, THE HABIT FOR THEM SINCE IT'S, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG EVENT AND THEY WANT TO HAVE A BIG CELEBRATION. 
           THERE HAS BEEN A COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN FORMED IN THE VOLUNTEERS TO MAKE SOME PRELIMINARY PLANS, TO SEE WHAT THE EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO COST TO SOMEBODY. 
          CAUSE MAN CAN BE A PRETTY BIG THING. 
          JUST THE ELDEST FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE. 
          IT'S A 150 YEARS, A LONG TIME. 
          I THINK, GET EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD INVOLVED. 
          I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE IN TOWN WHO WERE IN THAT FIRST DEPARTMENT TOO THOUGH. 
          UH, THE WAGON, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, EXCEPT THAT I WOULD REQUEST AN OFFICIAL, UH, EXCUSE FROM THE BOARD, FROM THE WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK. 
          CAUSE I WILL BE OUT OF THE STATE AND I WILL BE VISITING MY GRANDCHILDREN UPSTATE NEW YORK FIRST TIME. 
          I'VE SEEN THEM IN A WHILE AND I WOULD LIKE AN OFFICIAL EXCUSE. 
          SO I'M NOT AUTOMATICALLY VOTING YES. 
          ON EVERYTHING YOU GUYS TRY TO PULL. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, HE STILL HAS TO BE SKEWED. 
          AS FAR AS MICHIGAN MEETING WILL BE COUNTY VOTING HERE. 
          SHE COULD COME IN AND LEAVING. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          THEN LEAVE. 
          OH. 
          AFTER HE HAD LEFT HOLDING  THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL. 
          THAT'S IT? NO, I'VE GOT SOMETHING SMALL. 
          WELL, HURRY UP THIS, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A GRAFFITI PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S DEVELOPING IN THE CITY AND UH, IN MY MIND IT'S THE SAME PERSON. 
          I THINK IT'S THE SAME PERSON BECAUSE I'M RECOGNIZING THE WRITING MORE AND MORE. 
          IT LOOKS TOO SIMILAR. 
          WE HAD A REPEATED DAMAGE ON POLISH STREET AND NOW THERE IS EXTENSIVE GRAFFITI OR WRITING ON THE SIDE OF, UM, WHAT'S THE SUPERMARKET IN SOUTH GATE CALL WESTERN PAKISTAN. 
          PAKISTAN. 
          NOT ONLY IS IT IT'S OBSCENE. 
          REFEEDING AND THERE ARE SOME ON THE STREETS IN SOUTH GATE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE CAN STOP THAT. 
          I WANT TO, I WANT TO MAKE A $500 REWARD WHEN MY MONEY. 
          RIGHT. 
           YOU CAN'T DO IT. 
          NO, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE  EXCELLENT, BUT  FUNDS FOR WAR. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO BEFORE WE DEVELOP A GRAFFITI PROBLEM, I'M LIKE, WELL, THAT'S A LOT OF CITIES HAVE TO CALL BACK AND LET IT GET OUT OF HAND. 
          AND SINCE YOU HAVE OBSERVED AND YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT AND I HAVEN'T SEEN IT PROBABLY IS THE SAME INDIVIDUAL. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER WHERE WE CAN USE, WELL, COULD I, CAN I WHAT'S WHAT'S STOPPING ME FROM DONATING $500 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN ASKING THEM TO, TO, UH, POSTING A REWARD FOR THAT. 
          CAN I, CAN I DO THAT FOR, UH, SOMEWHAT DISCRETIONARY FUNDS FOR EACH ALL OF THEM? I DON'T THINK THAT THEY CAN BE APPROPRIATED FOR ANY PURPOSE. 
          THAT IS NOT BLEEDING. 
          NORTH CAROLINA CANNOT APPROPRIATE FUNDS BOY. 
          OR WHAT ABOUT CRIME STOPPERS? WE CAN FIND THEM. 
          I GUARANTEE YOU, WELL, I CAN ASK CRIME STOPPERS TO A POLLSTER REWARD AND I JUST PAY HIM. 
          I JUST DONATE IT FROM MY PHONE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE NEED TO, IT'S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT, BUT WE NEED, LISTEN, I DON'T WANT THIS TO LOOK LIKE THE SUBWAYS OF NEW YORK, WASHINGTON, DC, OR PHILADELPHIA. 
          IT IS LOOKING LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S NOT AS BAD, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE THOSE BIG CITIES, HAVING ALL THAT GRAFFITI, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING IT, THEY MUST COME FROM THOSE AREAS BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE OLD. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND YOU SEE IN THE BIG CITIES AND WE NEED TO STOP. 
          WE NEED TO NIP IT IN THE BUD. 
          STOP IT. 
          NOW. 
          IN FACT, WHEN WE COME BACK TO THE WORK SESSION 
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LAST, I ASKED HIM TO COME BACK TO THE WORK SESSION THAT WE GET A REPORT ON WHETHER THE CALVERT HAS BEEN CAUGHT. 
          AND, UH, CAN WE DIDN'T I READ WHERE HE USED TO BE A JUDGE BACK IN SOME OF THE HISTORICAL STUFF, BUT I WILL MAKE, I WILL MAKE A $500 DONATION TO CRIMESTOPPERS IF THEY WILL PULSE A REWARD FOR HANDLING THAT PROBLEM. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DO NEED TO STOP IT. 
          THAT'S FOR SURE. 
          THAT'S YOUR PERSONAL MONEY? MY PERSONAL MONEY. 
          YES. 
          FOUR HOURS SAY IT WAS TELEPHONE CALL THE OTHER NIGHT BOY ADMIRED. 
          HE INDICATED THAT HE AND DR. 
          BELL AND YOUR NEIGHBOR WOULD NOT BE REACHING ANY AGREEMENT AS TO THE DIVISION OF FORTUNATELY THE BOARD IS CONSIDERING CLOSING. 
          HE SAID THEY WOULD HANDLE IT BY THE JOINT DRIVEWAY. 
          SO THE BOARD IS FREE TO GO AHEAD AND ACTION ON THE ORDINANCE THAT WE PRESENTED THE NIGHT OF THE HEARING, HE CAN DO IT THE NIGHT, OR IT CAN BE SET WITH ME, WHICHEVER YOU PREFER. 
           THE ALAN MATTEA CRESCENT. 
          AND THEN IF WE, IF WE CLOSE IT, THEN THEY WILL LET THIS STREET REMAIN. 
          AND THEY JUST USE THE STREET AS THE DRIVEWAY. 
          NO, THE PAGE STREET, THEY PLAN WHAT THE EFFECT OF CLOSING. 
          IT WOULD BE THAT THE PROPERTY LINES AND MOVED TO THE MIDDLE OF THE RIGHT AWAY. 
          YEP. 
          AND WE WOULD NOT MAINTAIN THAT STRICTLY IN THE MORNING. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          AND THE ENTIRE AREA WOULD BE ENTERTAINED UTILITIES. 
          SO MR. MYRA DECIDED HE WANTED TO TAKE HIS ASPHALT BELT ON HIS ASS, BEAT HIS ASS ASPHALT. 
          I'LL RECALL UNLESS, UNLESS THEY DO NOT HAVE A DRIVEWAY, IF THEY HAVE A JOINT DRIVEWAY, I CAN'T IMAGINE IT NOT PUTTING IT WITH PAVING IS NOT OKAY. 
          AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY ARE DRIVING. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT HE INDICATED THE HUNT BACK TO REPRESENTING DR. 
          BELL WOULD PREPARE A JOINT DRIVEWAYS THAT WOULD ENABLE THEM TO GET IN THERE AND TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM. 
          AND BY REASONABLE THAT THEY WERE NOT CONCERNED WITH MOVING THE PROPERTY LINE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AS THE STATUTE NOW PERMISSION TO DO. 
          OKAY. 
          LET ME CLARIFY. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING DOWN THERE? I CAN'T SEE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. 
          DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT REFLECTION? OH YEAH. 
          I THOUGHT YOU GONNA WAIT TO, I'M SORRY. 
          I WISH THERE THERE'S A RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, REGARDING THE EPISODE OFF THE CHAIRMAN POWELL. 
          AND I DON'T WANT TO READ IT, BUT I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPTED. 
          I LIKE TO MAKE A NOTE THAT WHEN THIS IS A COMPLETED FRAME, YOU MIGHT BRING IN, MAKE A PRESENTATION TO CALL MONDAY. 
          YES, YES, YES, YES, YES. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? YES. 
          CHUCK TYSON IS CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION IN 1969 IS STATE LAW MADE SCHOOL BOARD ELECTIONS. 
          NON-PARTISAN CRAVEN COUNTY WAS EXEMPTED FROM THAT LAW. 
          CHUCK TYSON WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY WE'VE MUST HAVE NONPARTISAN SCHOOL BOARD ELECTIONS. 
          AND AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, I WILL WORK TOWARDS THAT GOAL. 
          SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD BE ELECTED BASED ON THEIR MERIT AND NOT ON THEIR PARTY AFFILIATION PAID FOR BY TYSON FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER COMMITTEE, LEROY PRICE TREASURER. 
          MY NAME IS EMMA BALKAN, FRANKS YOUR CANDIDATE FOR REELECTION TO THE CRAVEN COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION, WHERE I HAVE SERVED FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS, THE LAST THREE YEARS SERVING AS VICE CHAIRMAN. 
          PLEASE ALLOW ME TO CONTINUE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF ALL OF OUR CHILDREN. 
          PLEASE VOTE FOR ME AND MY BOOK AND FRANKS ON NOVEMBER THE EIGHTH, 1994. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT PAID FOR BY ARMOR FRANKS FOR BOARD OF EDUCATION COMMITTED JOYCE MIDGET TREASURE TWO 
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YEARS AGO, CRAVEN COUNTY VOTED GARY BALLOU COUNTY COMMISSIONER BECAUSE HE SAID HE COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 
          GARY BALLOU HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE. 
          WE NOW HAVE A NEW COUNTY MANAGER AND ADDITION TO BRENTON SCHOOL, NO RESTRICTIONS ON PORN AND ADULT BOOKSTORES, PUBLIC HEARINGS ON KEY ISSUES. 
          WHEN THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS RAISED HER PROPERTY TAXES. 
          GARY BALLOU WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SAID NO. 
          GARY BALLOU IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE AND NEED YOUR VOTE NOVEMBER 8TH 
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.