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WE'LL CALL IT, MAKING THE ORDER LAND.

AND WE'LL OPEN WITH A PRAYER BY REFERENCE CD BELL AT MOUNT CALVARY MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.

HE'S NOT HERE.

SO COMMISSIONER SAMPSON, WOULD YOU HELP US SET UP OH, FALL.

NOW GOD HAS BECOME TO COME BEFORE YOU DID TELL HIM ONE THING FROM THINGS WE ALL IS DELL WAS THE FATHER.

THANK YOU, PAUL BECAUSE FATHER, WE REALIZED THAT HE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT YOU.

WELL, IF YOU, WE CAN DO ALL THINGS POTTY UP, BLESS THIS, SIT DOWN THE MAGNIFICENT WAY UPON TO BE AFTER THAT CONTAINED TO BLESS IT FOLLOWED BY GOING IN AND COMING OUT.

PROBABLY LET US ALWAYS REMEMBER FATHER THAT WE ALL PROVINCE CAPABLE.

NOW REMEMBER THAT THOSE WHO HAVE MUCH, MUCH OF DESPAIR.

SO LET US REALIZE TONIGHT THAT EVERYTHING BELONGS TO YOU AND YOU CAN USE IT TO CONTROL ALL OF US.

YOU WILL MAKE HER DO ANYTHING, BUT WE WILL PAY ME IN JESUS NAME.

WE PRAY COMMENT DONE.

AMEN.

AND THEN ONE PATIENT HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.

OKAY.

BEFORE WE GET TO THE AGENDA, A COUPLE OF THINGS WE WANT TO DO.

AND ONE IS THAT, UH, MAY THE 16TH, WE HAD TWO OF OUR CITY LINEMAN, UH, HERE IN NEWBURGH, UH, ACTUALLY CAME IN FIRST AND SECOND PLACE.

AND THE, UH, 2001 NORTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION OF MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC SYSTEMS. LINEMAN'S RODEO Y'ALL, MIGHT'VE SEEN THAT AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, ALL THAT BIG, HEAVY EQUIPMENT, SO FORTH, AND A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, HOW GOOD THESE GUYS ARE BECAUSE YOU SEE HOW QUICKLY THE POWER COMES BACK OUT.

NOW WHEN WE HAVE THESE HURRICANES, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.

AND, UH, WHEN YOU SEE THE MAYOR GO ONTO THE BED, I MEAN, NOT DILIGENTLY LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW WHEN ALL THE STORMS ARE GOING ON, THESE GUYS ARE OUT THERE TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL IS RODEO, WHERE THEY ACTUALLY USE WHAT THEY CALL IN SCIENCE METRICS, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, AND ACTUALLY JUST MEASURE HOW GOOD THESE GUYS ARE.

AND WHEN, IMAGINE OUR GUYS GUESS WHAT THEY FINISHED FIRST AND SECOND IN THE WHOLE BUSINESS.

AND THAT'S AMAZING.

SO WE'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE NIGHT BY RECOGNIZING GERARD ROAD AND BRIAN SMALL, YOU CAPTURED FIRST AND SECOND PLACE.

AND THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THEIR ACHIEVEMENT WITH A LITTLE BONUS OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS A PIECE.

SAY IF YOU'LL COME OKAY.

AND THE NEXT THING WE'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, WE JUST CAME FROM THOSE ABBY TO WATCH THIS DELAYED, OF COURSE, ON CHANNEL 10, WE JUST CAME FROM, UH, FROM, UH, GET THE GALA TO SORTA HONOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY OF THE LAST.

UH, HE PROBABLY DIDN'T WANT ME TO MENTION THAT IT'S BEEN A WHILE AND, UH, THE GREAT JOB THAT HE'S DONE AND HE'S DECIDED TO, UH, TO RETIRE AS THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WHICH IS GONNA LEAVE A BIG VACANCY UP.

BUT HERE IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE FRIGHTENING FOR ME.

UH, THIS IS KIND OF LIKE, I HAVE THIS FEAR OF FLYING, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IF I DID FLY WITH NOBODY WOULD BE LIKE TO TAKE MY FIRST SOLO AND I'M FIXING TO TAKE IT AFTER THE NIGHT.

THEN IT WENT OUT MR. WARD BEING HERE.

SO WE WANT TO TAKE THIS LITTLE BRIEF TIME TO RECOGNIZE HIM AND TO, UH, I'M GOING TO READ HIM A PROCLAMATION FROM US IN THE CITY AND THEN GIVE HIM A LITTLE GIFT AS A MEMBER OF SPINE.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO READ THIS MOST AWARD JUST FOR YOU.

IT SAYS, WHEREAS ADY AWARDS, SENIORS RETIRING AT 44 YEARS OF SERVICE AND NEWBURN IS THE CITY ATTORNEY.

AND WHEREAS AL GRADUATED FROM NEWBURN HIGH SCHOOL

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AND WENT ON TO EARN HIS LAW DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA AT CHAPEL HILL.

AND HE FINISHED NUMBER ONE, BY THE WAY, I TOLD HIS DAUGHTER A LITTLE BIT EARLIER TONIGHT, I SAYS, THIS IS SORT OF LIKE THE UMBILICAL ALPHA AND OMEGA THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

AND HE HAS DAD, LANCE, NOT FROM CHAPEL HILL, BY THE WAY.

BUT ANYWAY, UH, WHEREAS AL AND HIS WIFE MUGGINS WERE BLESSED WITH FOUR CHILDREN AND IT MADE NEAR WHEN THEY'RE HOME, WHEREAS AL'S CAREER AND HIS WHOLE HEARTED PARTICIPATION IN MANY CIVIC AND CHARITABLE FUNCTIONS AT MORAN FOR HIM, THE RESPECT OF A HOST OF AREA RESIDENTS REPRESENTING ALL AGES AND WALKS OF LIFE.

WHEREAS THE PERFORMANCE OF HIS DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND HIS WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WERE ALWAYS CHARACTERIZED BY AN OBVIOUS DEDICATION TO GET ANY JOB WELL DONE AND WHERE HIS HOUSE DEDICATED INTEREST IN DEVOTION TO DUTY HAVE HAD A VALUABLE EFFECT OF EFFICIENCY AND MORALE.

AND NOW THEREFORE, WHY BAYLOR'S MAYOR THE CITY OF NEWMAN ON BEHALF OF THE NEW WOODEN BOARD OF ALL OF THEM AND THE CITIZENS DO HEREBY EXTEND SINCERE, THANKS AND APPRECIATION TO 80 WARD'S SR FOR 44 YEARS OF LOYAL SERVICE AS THE CITY ATTORNEY, MR. WARD HI.

I'M NOT AS BANG.

WHATEVER IS NOW YOU MAY HAVE MISSED ARENA TO HELP YOU OUT OF HERE.

YEAH, IT MAKES IT CRYSTAL.

YOU CAN REMEMBER US BY, YOU CAN POINT OUT.

I SWEAR MY GIRL'S HEAD AS HARD AS THAT CREST, WHEN I NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS RELAX ON THE RIVERSIDE, WE TAKE THEM OUT PRIOR TO GIVING THE NUMBERS, TELL YOU NOBODY DESERVES IT MORE.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT LET ME JUST GET THIS SPEECH, BUT I DO WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THIS.

A REAL PLEASURE.

I CAN'T SAY THAT I HAVE ENJOYED EVERY MINUTE.

GOD LOVES HONEST, MAN.

I HAVE ENJOYED MOTHER.

THERE YOU GO.

WELL, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HERE ANYWHERE NEAR AS LONG.

THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND SOMEHOW THEN YOU'LL BE BACK IN THAT SEAT, MAN, MAN, AND THAT GIVES ME A GOOD FEELING TO KNOW THAT POSSIBILITY EXISTS.

SO WE APPRECIATE IT.

AND SO MAY I, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M OUT OF PLACE, BUT IT WAS NICE WORKING WITH THAT.

I, UH, I KNEW, WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW, AND I KINDA KNEW AL BEFORE I KNEW WHO I WAS, BECAUSE I WAS TELLING HIM WHEN I WAS, I GUESS, ABOUT EIGHTH GRADE, MY UNCLE AND SOME OTHER BRICK MASON HELPED BUILD A BUILDING.

AND, UH, I WAS IN LABOR DURING THE SUMMER JUST HAILING BRICKS.

AND WE BUILT HIS BUILDING DOWN HIM WHEN I WAS A KID.

AND AT THAT TIME, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ALEC BROTHERS TO COME BACK ON SATURDAY TO LOOK AT THE PROGRESS, BUT IT MIGHT'VE BEEN, I'M NOT SURE, BUT THAT WAS, YEAH, THAT WAS, UH, PROBABLY 62 63 SOMEWHERE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

AND ALL I KNEW WAS WARNING.

WELL, I GUESS I NEED TO MAKE A COMMENT.

I'VE WORKED WITH AL LONG THAN ANYBODY ON HIS BOARD.

AND L IT WAS A PLEASURE OF WORKING

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WITH YOU.

I ALWAYS APPRECIATE IT, YOU KNOW, NECESS DEMEANOR.

AND I'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS, THAT BOARD CAN NOT DO THIS AND THAT I STARTED ON THE BOARD AT THE SAME TIME.

ROBERT, ALL OF THEM HAVE, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.

YOU'VE GIVEN US GOOD ADVICE AND I'M PRETTY APPRECIATING, OKAY, IT'S MY TURN.

UH, MR. WARD, AS THE JUNIOR MEMBER OF THE BOARD, I HAD THE AUSPICIOUS OPPORTUNITY TO SIT IN THE MAYOR SHEET A COUPLE OF TIMES.

AND TO HAVE YOU AT MY LEFT HAND WAS SO I FELT SO LIKE, I COULD, I COULD DO NO WRONG BECAUSE YOU RIGHT THERE TO POKE ME.

IF I WAS GOING TO SAY THE WRONG THING AND HAVING MR. HARTMAN RIGHT HERE, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR COUNCIL, YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR GUIDANCE.

AND, UH, WE WISH YOU GODSPEED.

OKAY? OKAY.

WELL, AL KNOWS VERY MUCH HOW MUCH HE MEANS TO ME A LOT.

HE'S HELPED ME SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE TREMENDOUSLY AND AL I WISH YOU EVERY SUCCESS AND KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO BE SEEING YOU FROM TIME TO TIME ANYWAY, BUT WHERE'S IT GOING TO BE A HOLE? THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO FEEL AROUND HERE.

SO WE MIGHT BE CALLING ON YOU, HELP SHOVEL A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU, BILL TO CANADA, TO TIE IT UP BY SAYING THAT MR. WARD HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET MASON'S 19,903 TO CALL HIM OUT.

AND I TOLD HIM, I JUST DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT.

CALLING HIM OUT.

HE'D ALWAYS BEEN MESSED AWARD.

SO I'M GOING TO LET THE WHOLE WORLD WITNESS ESTIMATE GOOD LUCK AFTER I DID IT.

DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? WELL, I HAVEN'T RUN GET SOME MORE FILM AND WE'LL SHOOT SOME MORE PICTURES.

SO I MISSED WHAT ALL WAS SAID, BUT WHAT CAN YOU SAY? HE'S DONE THE JOB FOR SO MANY YEARS.

IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO REPLACE.

AND THE GENTLEMEN WHO'S GOING TO ATTEMPT TO DO THAT IS WHAT'S TONIGHT.

SO THANKS.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

IF YOU NEED A PLACE TO HANG OUT, YOU CAN MAKE, BECOME BETTER WITH TOM BECAUSE HE'S NOT WORKING.

MISERABLE.

I MEAN, HAVE WONDERFUL JOB FOR 44 YEARS.

WE GOT ONE MORE TO GET DON'T LET US DOWN.

SO WE'LL MOVE AHEAD WITH THE AGENDA.

YOU NEED TO PULL YOUR MIC DOWN A LITTLE BIT DOWN.

I GET THE SAME FELLOW THAT CALLS ME AND HE SAYS HE CAN'T HEAR US.

I KEEP TELLING HIM IT'S ON PURPOSE, BUT HE'S WATCHING THESE MITES.

WELL, MAN, I WAS A LITTLE PARANOID BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY WERE SO SENSITIVE.

AND ONE TIME SOMEONE CAME BEFORE THE PODIUM AND SOME SLIPPED OUT MY MOUTH AND THEY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

TELL HIM IT WAS ROBERT.

HE'S WORN EVERYTHING OUT.

ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT THING WE'LL HAVE THE END IS THE SEWER RECORD BY THE CITY ENGINEER.

YOU GUYS ARE HARD AT WHATEVER WATER TRICK PLANT TREATED THERE, APPROXIMATELY 130 MILLION GALLONS OF WASTEWATER DURING THE MONTH OF MAY WITH AN AVERAGE OF FOUR, 3.3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, THE PLANT, UM, REMOVED 8.5% OF THE TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS THAT CAME INTO THE PLANT ALSO REMOVED 90.7% OF THE BIOLOGICAL OXYGEN DEMAND THAT ENTERED THE PLANT.

UH, ALL PARAMETERS OF THE PLANT WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE MPDS PERMIT.

UM, ALSO, I LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING TONIGHT ABOUT THE PORT PROJECT, THE, UH, CANAL ALONG WITH WHEN BERNIE DRIVE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND IS OPERATIONAL AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UM, THE LEVEL THAT YOU SEE IN THE CANAL ALONG GLEN BURNIE IS THE RIVER LEVEL.

THAT IS WHAT, UH, THE NEWS RIVER LEVEL IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

AND, UH, WE WILL HOPEFULLY BE GETTING AN AUTHORIZATION TO CONSTRUCT HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, TO COMPLETE THE REST OF THE PROJECT WILL INVOLVE BUILDING THE DOCS AROUND THE CORE AND BEGIN TO BUILD THE PIPELINE THAT WILL COME FROM THE NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT

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PLANT THAT WE EVENTUALLY DISCHARGED OUR F1 TO THAT COURT PROJECT.

UH, AS YOU LOOK AT THE CORE, UM, MOST PEOPLE DON'T RECOGNIZE THIS, BUT THE LEVEL THAT'S IN THE CANAL ON GLEN BURNIE DRIVE IS ACTUALLY APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET PLUS OR MINUS, DEPENDING ON THE WIND TYPE, UH, BELOW THE ELEVATION OF THE WATER.

THAT'S IN THE CORE.

IT'S THAT IT'S A LITTLE DECEIVING LOOKING AT IT FROM EITHER STANDING ON THE DIKE OR, UM, LOOKING AT IT FROM THE ROAD AND THEY APPEAR TO BE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME LEVEL, AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE.

IT WAS ABOUT A TWO FOR THE DIFFERENCE THERE.

UH, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UH, WE RECEIVED, UH, IN FACT, TONIGHT VOTE IN THE CONSENT AGENDA TO ENTER INTO THE, UM, REVOLVING LOAN WITH THE STATE, UH, FOR $20 MILLION.

AND WE HAVE ACCEPTED BIDS AND HAVE TENTATIVE.

THE BOARD DOES, UH, THE NEXT STEP IS TO SEND THIS PAPERWORK, A LOT OF PAPERWORK TO THE STATE, FOR THE FILES.

WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE SAY WE DO WITH THE MONEY AND, UM, BEGIN TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE CROWDER CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

WE TENTATIVELY AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO, AND THEY SHOULD BEGIN CONSTRUCTION SOMETIME AROUND AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I GOT ONE.

HE EXPLAINED THE REASON THAT IN WATER IN THE CAR IS A COUPLE FEET HIGHER THAN THE RIVER, WHICH THE RIVER NOW IS REPRESENTED BY THE END OF THE CANAL THAT YOU JUST DUG A LITTLE DITCH OR WHATEVER BESIDE IT.

CAUSE IT'S TIED TO THE RIVER.

WHY IS THE WATER MCQUARRY? HUH? WELL, THE EASIEST WAY.

I'M NOT SURE I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY, UM, THE EASIEST WAY TO TRY TO EXPLAIN IT IS TO STATE THAT IF THE HORI WERE IN PRE-MODERN CONDITIONS AND HAD BIRTHED THERE RATHER THAN LIKE THE GROUNDWATER SYSTEM WOULD BE TRAVELING SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF WHAT THE LEVEL OF THE CORY IS RIGHT NOW, UM, PREVIOUSLY TO THE MINING OPERATION THAT WAS GOING TO DIE BETWEEN THE LAKES AND THE RIVER AND WATER NATURALLY FLOATED UNDERGROUND ALONG THE SAND AND SILT THAT'S IN THE GROUND ABOVE THE, ABOVE THE LIMESTONE ITSELF.

AND THEN IN THE LAB ITSELF THAT MOVES A LITTLE MORE RAPIDLY, BUT THAT'S CALLED OUR GROUNDWATER TABLE.

AND BASICALLY WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS REMOVE THE EARTH.

INSTEAD OF HAVING A SLOPING LINE FROM HIGHWAY 55 DOWN TO THE RIVER LEVEL, YOU HAVE A FLAT SURFACE WHERE IT COMES THROUGH THE EARTH ON THE 55 SIDE, TRAVELING TOWARDS THE RIVER.

AND IT HAS A LEVEL OF WATER IN A, IN A SINGLE BODY IS GOING TO BE AT THE SAME ELEVATION ALL THE WAY THROUGHOUT THAT.

SO INSTEAD OF SLOPING, IT'S APPROXIMATELY THE SAME HEIGHT AND THAT HEIGHT WOULD HAVE TO BE ABOVE THE RIVER BECAUSE FOR WATER TO FLOW TO THE RIVER, IT HAS TO HAVE A DRIVING HEAD OR HAS TO BE IN AN ELEVATION, TIRED IN THE RIVER FOR IT TO FLOW TOWARDS THE RIVER.

AND THAT'S WHY THE ELEVATION IS IN THE LAKE IS ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT IS IN THAT.

AND NOW, WHICH IS AT THE RIVER LEVEL, BUT IT IS PART OF THAT WATER IN THE CANAL BECAUSE HIS RAINWATER THAT RUNS OFF OF THESE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES INTO THE CAR NOW.

UM, WELL, YES, THERE IS WATER IN THE CANAL THAT IS ACTUALLY DRAINING A PORTION OF PROPERTY THAT FROZE FREELY UNDER GLENBURNIE GROWTH OR CULPRIT.

THERE IS THE RIGHT MOTOR IN THAT DITCH.

YES THERE'S SONG.

BUT THAT MAJORITY NOW, I MEAN, IN THE QUARRY IN THE COURT, YES, THERE ARE, UH, LITERALLY 200, I THINK IT'S 212 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER FOR ONE FOOT OF ELEVATION IN THE, IN THE LAKE.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 654 ACRE LAKE.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHEN YOU PUT THESE DIKES AROUND THAT QUARRY AND THAT RAINWATER CAN'T RUN IN THE QUARTER, ONE THING THAT'LL HAPPEN AS A CAR WATER, ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, THE LEVEL OF WATER IN THE CAR INITIALLY TO GO DOWN, I WOULD ASSUME, WAS THIS RAIN WATER CAN'T RUN IN IT.

AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CAR, IF I WANTED TO MAKE ITS WAY BACK TO THE ROOM.

YES, SIR.

WE WILL, WE WILL PROVIDE A WAIVER ALL SURFACE TO THE RIVER.

UH, ONE WILL BE TO GO THROUGH THE LAKE THAT IS, UM, ON THE NORTH SIDE, A HUNDRED ACRE LAKE.

THERE WILL ACTUALLY BECOME A STORM WATER RETENTION POND.

MOST OF THE WATER THAT THEN TRAVELS UNDER 55 ALONG LIBERTY ROAD WILL TRAVEL OVER TO THAT HUNDRED ACRE, LIKE THE WATER THAT'S ON THE, UM, MY DIRECTIONS VERY WELL OVER THERE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD FROM THE, FOR TRAVEL ON COVERT AND TRAVELS TO THE RIVER DSR.

AND THERE WILL BE SOME STABILIZATION EXACTLY WHERE THAT WATER LEVEL IS GOING TO STABILIZE.

AS A, AS A QUESTION, WE CAN'T ANSWER IT RIGHT.

WELL, WHAT I'M GETTING AT, I GUESS, FOR MY OWN BENEFIT

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OR MAYBE SOME OTHERS, IS IT LET'S SUPPOSE THAT WE'VE PUT X AMOUNT OF WATER INTO THE QUARRY.

AND Y AMOUNT IS GOING TO GO OUT BECAUSE OF THE HEAD AND DOWN THROUGH THE LIMESTONE AND IT, AND IF WE KEEP ALL THINGS EQUAL, IT'LL REACH SOME STEADY STATE.

AND ESPECIALLY SINCE IF WE CUT OFF THE DRAINAGE FROM ALL THAT LAND RUNNING INTO THAT CAR, IT USED TO DIDN'T DO IT ANYWAY.

BUT OF COURSE WE PROVIDE A WAY FOR THAT RAIN WATER TO GET TO THE RIVER, HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE CAR.

MY POINT IS, LET'S SAY THAT THAT EXTRA WATER WE PUT IN THE CAR THAT MOUNTS TO TWO FEET, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE TWO FEET ON TOP OF THE LEVEL.

IT'S IN THAT NOW, BECAUSE THE LEVEL THAT'S IN MAN NOW WILL BE LOWER THAN IT IS NOW.

THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN GET THROUGH WITH YOUR DOWNS AND DRAINAGE INSIGHTFUL.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE WILL BE IN A COUPLE OF FEET OR WHATEVER, OR WHATEVER FOOTAGE ON A LOWER LEVEL.

AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING IT NOW.

YES, SIR.

IF YOU, IF YOU DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING IN THE QUARRY, UH, AND DIVERTED ALL THE RAIN WATER AWAY FROM IT, AND THE ONLY AWARD IT FELL WHEN IT WAS WHAT CAME OUT OF THE SKY, I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT SOMEWHERE, UM, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO AND TWO AND A QUARTER FEET ABOVE SEA LEVELS, FOR THAT POINT WOULD SETTLE OUT THAT IT WOULD BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE RIVER, BECAUSE IT'S STILL GOT TO HAVE HAD THE DRIVER HAD TO GO TO THE RIVER.

OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE MY ESTIMATION.

AND THAT STAY GIVES, HE HAS A LOT OF FREEBOARD.

YES, SIR.

SURE.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE THAT CLEAR.

ALL RIGHT.

AS LONG AS IT WORKS, MIKE, AND BE THERE FOR US, TO ME, UH, I, HAVEN'T JUST ONE BRIEF QUESTION.

THE INTEREST RATE ON THAT LOAN IS WHAT 2.5 FOR, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY LOWER THAN 2.5 THOUGHT.

SHE SAY, I THINK IT LIKE 2.3, FOUR OR SOMETHING.

I JUST SAID 2.5.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY SIGHT.

BUT SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S EXCELLENT.

IT'S, IT'S A 2.5 ON THE LOAN AND THERE'S NO INTEREST OR PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS REQUIRED DURING THE LIFE OF THE CONSTRUCTION.

SIX MONTHS AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED, IT WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE ANY PAYMENTS IN THE FIRST TIME, INTEREST WILL START ACCRUING ON THE LOAN, BUT THAT ALSO SAVES SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THAT'S AN EXCELLENT RIGHT.

LANSING.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, JOSEPH.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT THING, AND THIS IS OUR VERY FIRST ONE.

UH, I LOOKED AT THE WRONG LINE AND THAT'S NOT THE FIRST PIECE YEARLING NOW.

AND I SEE HIM GET UP.

I KNOW FOR US, THIS IS A HAZARD MITIGATION REPORT BY YOUR FRIEND AND MINE, MR. MIKE BARNETT.

OH, .

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE JUST A FEW BRIEF, VERY BRIEF COMMENTS ABOUT LIVABLE UNITS, WHERE I WENT THROUGH THE STATS OF WHEN I WAS WITH HIM LAST MONTH, IT SAID TO START LOOKING AT, TRYING TO ADDRESS THEM COMFORTABLE WITH THE OTHER OCCUPIED UNITS.

WE'VE HAD TWO THINGS.

WE STILL NEED TO WORK OUT AS A STAFF.

THE FIRST WE HAVE 10 VACANT UNITS, THIS IS NINE OR 10 SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE.

UM, AND AS WE STARTED LOOKING INTO THOSE AND FIND THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT MOVED OUT, PEOPLE THAT MOVED INTO THAT TIME.

SO PROBABLY IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS OR SO, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS EACH ONE OF THOSE VACANT UNITS TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLASSIFIED CORRECTLY BEFORE WE GET DOWN INTO THE RENTAL UNITS.

AND THE SECOND THING IS REQUIRED BY NOW BY THE AGENT GP PROGRAMS. WE UNDERSTAND IT TO OFFER EACH HOMEOWNER AND EACH PROPERTY OWNER TO BE INVOLVED IN THE ACQUISITION PROGRAM.

UH, IF THEY SO CHOOSE AND NOT THE ELEVATION PROGRAM, BUT WHAT THAT CREATES WITH A RENTAL UNIT IS THAT IT HAS AN OCCUPANT AND WE PUT THEM INTO THE ACQUISITION PROGRAM.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME ASSISTANCE GIVEN TO THE TENANT THAT CALLS WE ARE DISPLEASANT AND THEN WITH FEDERAL DOLLARS.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO WORK OUT THAT QUESTION BEFORE WE PROCEED FORWARD WITH A MILLION UNITS WITH THE DIDN'T WANT TO TOUCH BASE AFTER I SAID LATE.

AND YOU SAY, BY UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU JUST SAY, IN OTHER WORDS, THE DECISION IS JUST SALAD WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE RENTAL UNIT, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW IS ON THE MAKEUP UP? MY MIND IS WHETHER THEY WANT TO SELL A RENTAL UNIT.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING SINCE IT'S A SECOND PARTY, THIRD, BUT SECOND PARTY IS LIVING IN IT.

AND SINCE THAT PERSON WOULD BE DISPLACED BY THE DECISION OF THE HOME OWNER, THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE WHAT YOU CALL IT SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THAT PERSON.

YES.

ANYTIME ANY PERSON IS DISPLACED WITH FEDERAL FUNDS, UM, INVOLUNTARY MATTER ROUTINELY VOLUNTARY.

UM, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE IF NOT MONEY, THAT BROKER TO DO THAT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO WORK OUT.

WE DON'T WANT TO GET

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CAUGHT IN THAT TRAP, RIGHT? TRYING TO WORK THAT OUT.

OKAY.

UNIT 30, I HAVE SCHEDULED TO MEET THIS TIME.

NEXT MONDAY, YOU SIT DOWN WITH THIS, WITH THIS HOMEOWNER.

THIS IS ONE OF THE FOUR OWNERS WHO ARE NOT ELIGIBLE UNDER THE AGP PROGRAM.

WE HAVE PROGRAM WHAT WE CALL THE DRI MONEY AND HAD THEIR HOUSE FOR DRI FUNDING.

WE'LL START THAT PROCESS WITHIN NEXT MONDAY.

UM, UNIT 80 HAS BEEN REOCCUPIED.

UM, WE HAVE A FEW MINOR REHAB.

WE USED TO COMPLETE WAS HOOKED TO GET STARTED ON THOSE PROBLEMS IN JULY.

GET SEVERAL OF THOSE IN ONE CONTRACT, YOU DID 92, THE SAME AS WE HELPED EDIT.

AND REOCCUPIED THE AMOUNT OF REHAB UNITS TO BE COMPLETED.

UNIT 40 IS A MINERAL UNIT DEPENDING 74 IS WHEN WE HAD PURCHASED AND IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A TEMPORARY RELOCATION RESOURCE FOR SOMEBODY WHO WAS OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.

AT THE TIME UNIT 17, WE HAVE SCHEDULED THE ELEVATION AND STOLEN THAT HOUSE ON JULY 9TH.

WE HAVE FINALLY COME UP WITH TEMPORARY LOCATION RESOURCES FOR THAT FAMILY UNIT.

75 IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S UP THERE, RIGHT? DOWNLOADS ROAD, AND JUST STARTED MOVING TO THE FOOTINGS.

BUT YESTERDAY I BEG YOUR PARDON TODAY.

UM, UNIT 78, WE HAVE DELIVERED THE APPRAISAL TO THAT HOMEOWNER.

UH, WE ARE AWAITING A RESPONSE FROM THE OWNER.

THE OWNER HAS SOME DISPUTE WITH THE PRICE OF THAT.

WE'VE ASKED HIM TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, TO GET US INFORMATION SO WE CAN PROCEED UNIT 72 AND 93 PENDING HOUSE.

COME BACK, PLEASE.

MAJOR PUNCH THIS TIME, PUT THE STEPS BACK ON IT.

THERE ARE A FEW MINOR THINGS TO BE DONE.

TINY.

THAT'S AN ON THAT PLUS THE FIVE INSPECTION THAT COMPLETE UNIT 44 AND ELEVATED, AND REOCCUPIED REHAB BE COMPLETE UNIT 28 AND ELEVATE.

AND REOCCUPIED HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK WE ARE FILING SPECIAL UNIT 29TH WITH ELEVATORS.

WE OCCUPIED MINOR REHAB UNITS, MYRON REHAB COMPLETED THERE ON THAT'S THE SAME WITH UNIT NUMBER 74 RENTAL UNITS CURRENTLY PENDING UNIT.

NUMBER FOUR IS A HOUSE WHERE WE HAD SOME QUESTION ABOUT SUBSURFACE CONDITIONS.

WE'VE HAD A GEO-TECH AND THEN TWO WEEKS AGO, WE'RE WAITING FOR THEIR REPORT TO SEE HOW MUCH, WHAT THE, THE PAST IS.

VALUATED UNIT NUMBER FIVE, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR A DECISION FROM THEM.

WE KIND OF BACK OFF A LITTLE BIT, THIS OTHER LOSS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE ACQUISITION PROGRAM VERIFICATION FROM DIVISION EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ON HOW MUCH SPECIAL UNIT NUMBER 19 IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S ALL THE ELEVATION IN SALES SIX, WHICH IS DEPENDING ON UNIT INTO THE ACQUISITION PROGRAM.

AND THE M A HAS THAT REQUEST ON THE CIVILIZATION UNIT 26 PER UNIT 45 SCHEDULED TO MEET WITH THAT ON NEXT MONDAY.

AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THE DRI FORMS WILL BE USED FOR THIS UNIT UNIT 46 IS CURRENTLY UP IN THE AIR ON CONSTRUCTION, LIKE UNIT 65 AND 66, ALL RENTAL UNITS AND UNIT SEVEN, SEVEN ON THE WAY DOWN SCHEDULED TO MEET HIM.

ALSO NEXT MONDAY, WE USE FOR THAT UNIT EIGHT, SIX, WE HAD LISTED AS VISITING WITH THAT LADY AFTER THE MEETING, GIVING HER AN EXPLANATION OF THE PROGRAM.

AND WE HAVE ASKED THE CITY TURNS OFF AND INVESTIGATE.

SO WE WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION.

NUMBER SEVEN, WE HAVE MET WITH LADY.

WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM, WHETHER THEY MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN THE PRICE OF ACQUISITION PROCESS.

UNIT NINE 20 IS THE FOURTH UNIT WITH JOHN TO MEET WITH THEM NEXT MONDAY AGAIN, DRI UNIT 12.5

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WHO HAD FINAL INSPECTIONS.

AND THEN 39, WE MET WITH HIS OWNER.

THERE ARE SOME ISSUES CONCERNING THE CONTRACTOR PROPOSED IN THE PROPERTY VALUE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS WORK OUT UNITS, 43 AND 47 PENDING UNIT 54.

WE'VE MET WITH THAT UNDER.

WE ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO LOCATE TEMPORARY HOUSING FOR TEENAGE SONS.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE DRI MONEY FOR THIS WELL, THIS HOUSE, ONCE WE GET THE TEMPORARY LOCATION SETTLED, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RECEIVE YOUR FISHING UNIT.

58 IS A RENTAL UNIT 69.

IT HAS BEEN ELEVATED AND REOCCUPIED WE HAVE OUR FINAL INSPECTIONS TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

WHAT HAPPENED.

UH, I NOTICED IN HERE, YOU SAID SOME WERE PENDING WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE CONTRACT IS WORKLOAD IS.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? EXACTLY.

IF YOU DON'T AWARD IT TO SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN ON BOARD NAMED G OR THE, UM, WE HAD SEVERAL CONTRACTORS, CONTRACTORS WHO REALLY WERE LOADED UP WORK, AND WE WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO BE AT THESE TIMES WITH NO MORE FUEL NOTICE.

ONLY 11, I THINK 11 UNITS, THREE, FOUR, OR AT NINE FEET A REVOLT.

NOW BASICALLY GET THAT CONTRACTOR STOCK SETTLED DOWN AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING BASICALLY WITH THREE OR FOUR CONTRACTORS UP UNTIL JUNE.

WHO'VE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO WHEN WE CALL OR THEY'VE BEEN THERE, WE CALL IT, YOU USUALLY SAY, COME ON FRIDAY, THEY WERE THERE ON FRIDAY.

WE'VE EVOLVED RECENTLY, RENEW CONTRACTORS, NOT QUITE BEEN AS RESPONSIVE, THEY'VE BEEN FAIRLY RESPONSIVE.

SO THEY'RE MORE TYPICAL OF WHAT YOU FIND SOMETIMES A WEEK OR TWO.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU LETTING THESE PEOPLE WORK THROUGH SOME OF THEIR WORK SO THAT THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE TO QUOTE, TO BE IT.

IN OTHER WORDS, THAT WILL GIVE YOU A BROADER BASE TO BID FROM INSTEAD OF THEM NOT BEING ABLE TO COMPETE BECAUSE THEY JUST LOAD IT UP AND CAN'T GET TO THEM.

AND WE, AND WE, WE, WE CAN'T TOUCH THEM.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE GOT THE QUESTIONS? UH, LET'S SAY THE NEXT THING.

THIS ONE IS OUR FIRST REPORT.

THEY LETTER A BUY-TO-LET CHIEF.

GIVE US, YOU PLOW A NEW GROUND.

AND I SAY, GO AHEAD.

YES, WE ARE HERE.

UH, IF I MIGHT TAKE JUST A SECOND TO MAKE A COMMENT TO MR. WARD, UM, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENTLE AND PATIENT TREATMENT.

UH, ROOKIE CHIEF OUT HERE AND FOR YOUR WISE COUNSEL OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR ME PERSONALLY, POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU TERRIBLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, JAKE.

OKAY.

MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY FIRST LITERARY REPORT.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THE GOAL OF OUR LITTER ENFORCEMENT CAMPAIGN IS VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.

OUR GOAL IS NOT TO WRITE TICKETS OR TO GIVE WARNINGS, BUT TO HAVE PEOPLE BE RESPONSIBLE AND NOT DILUTE IT TO BEGIN WITH.

SO WE'RE ASKING EVERYBODY TO PLEASE CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO KEEP OUR CITY CLEAN.

A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR COMPLIANCE AND NOT LITERALLY, IF YOU'VE GOT A CIGARETTE, PUT IT OUT OF YOUR ASHTRAY.

IF YOU GOT AN ASHTRAY FULL, WE'LL, PUT IT OUT, DUMPING IT HOME IN A GARBAGE CAN.

AND IF YOU'VE GOT A MCDONALD'S BAG OR ANY OTHER KIND OF TRASH, KEEP IT IN THE CAR UNTIL YOU GET SOME PLACE WHERE YOU CAN DEPOSIT IT APPROPRIATELY, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

WE WOULD LET US DO OTHER THINGS AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH GETTING THE CITATIONS.

HAVING SAID THAT, I WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT OUR ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS HAVE BEEN THUS FAR.

WE HAVE ASSIGNED OFFICERS PATROL OFFICERS TO, UH, RESPONSIBILITY IN ADDITION TO THEIR REGULAR DUTIES.

AND THAT IS THAT WE HAVE ASSIGNED SPECIFIC INTERSECTIONS OFFICERS ROTATE THROUGH THESE INTERSECTIONS.

AND THESE ARE PLACES THAT WE FOUND DOING THE CLEANUP CAMPAIGN, HAD THE MOST CIGARETTE BUTTS THROWN OUT TRASH LAND AROUND THE CORNERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THAT'S A ROVING KIND OF PATROL.

SO WHEN OFFICERS HAVE TIME BETWEEN COST OF SERVICE, THEY WILL GO TO THOSE LOCATIONS AND WATCH FOR PEOPLE VIOLATING THE LITTLE BOSS AND ISSUE YOU'RE PROTECTING APPROPRIATE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.

THAT'S ALSO THE SAME IN SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHERE THE OFFICERS, WHEN THEY GET A CHANCE TO ROLL THROUGH THESE AREAS AND SPECIFICALLY LOOK FOR LITTERING VIOLATIONS, UM, TO DATE, UH, WE HAVE WRITTEN, UH, FOR LITTERING CITATIONS ISSUED TO WARNINGS.

UH, THESE ARE ALL THE CITATIONS WERE ALL ISSUED ON VIOLATION OF STATE STATUTE.

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UM, THE THAT'S A DISTRICT COURT ISSUE.

IF THE PERSON WHO PLEADS NOT GUILTY AFTER A PERIOD OF DISTRICT COURT AND THE ISSUE IS HANDLED THROUGH THAT, UH, WE, UM, ARE VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO NOT HAVING TO WRITE A LOT OF TICKETS, BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY PREPARED, UH, IN THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT.

WE'LL SEE, UH, A RECOMMENDATION TO TWO MEN.

ONE OF THE ORDINANCES THAT MR. WARD, UH, WROTE FOR US, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT ESTABLISHES A $50 FIVE FOR THE VIOLATION OF THE CITY ORDINANCE ON LITERARY AND ALLOWS THE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE TWO DIFFERENT COURSES, THE CITY TO TAKE TWO DIFFERENT COURSES OF ACTION TO YOUR PERSON NOT PAYING THE FINE FIRST OF COURSE, WOULD BE TO SUE CIVILLY.

YOU NOT IN DISTRICT COURT AND TRY TO RETAIN THE FIVE MONEY THAT WAY THE OTHER WOULD BE TO ISSUE A WARRANT FOR THE PERSON'S ARREST AND TO HAVE THE, UH, ISSUE SHIFT TO DISTRICT COURT ON A CRIMINAL BASIS.

SO THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR YOU.

WHAT THAT'LL DO FOR THE DEPARTMENT IS ALLOW US TO TAKE A MUCH QUICKER AND MORE EXPEDITIOUS APPROACH TO WRITING VIOLATIONS RIGHT NOW ON THE RIGHT.

THE STATE CITATION IS A LONG FORM.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION HAS TO BE ON THE FORM.

AND AGAIN, IT'S PROCESS THROUGH THE DISTRICT COURT.

IF WE USE THE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATION, WE CAN CHECK OFF A BOX ON THE PARKING TICKET, WHICH HAS OTHER INDICATE WHAT THE VIOLATION IS, WHAT SECTION IS VIOLATED AND WHAT THE FINE IS.

AND THE PERSON CAN COME TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PAY DIRECTLY TO DEFINE WHAT THEY COMPLETE, NOT GUILTY AND GO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM THAT WAY.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT'S GOING TO DO US SOME GOOD.

UM, I HOPE THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE WHEN YOU WORK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THE LAST THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE, UH, TELEPHONE NUMBER THAT, UH, PEOPLE CAN CALL.

AND WHEN THEY SEE A VIOLATION OF THE LAW, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO BECOME INVOLVED AND HELP US, UH, BECOME A PARTNER IN THIS EFFORT TO KEEP YOU RECLAIM.

AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO CELLULAR PHONE COMPANIES THAT HAVE, UH, FINALIZED THEIR PREPARATION.

THE NUMBER OF THAT, THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE USING IS POUND 8, 7, 2, OR POUND TRA.

UH, WE COULDN'T DO THE TWO DIGIT BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUES AND FUNCTION KEYS.

WE COULDN'T DO THE STAR BECAUSE OF SOME FUNCTION, KEY PROBLEMS. UM, US ARE READY TO GO ONLINE WITH THAT AS SOON AS WE SAY SO I WAS STILL WORKING WITH, UM, ALLTEL.

WE SHOULD KNOW WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, WHETHER THEY CAN DO THE LB, UH, 8, 7, 2, OR TRA, UM, IT FELL IN IT'S IN CHARGE OF THAT IS NOT IN THE OFFICE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE WAITING FOR HIM TO COME BACK SO WE CAN FINALIZE THAT AT ANY RATE.

MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE DO THE LB 8, 7, 2 OR THE POUND TRD.

AND, UH, WHEN ALL TELL COMES ON BOARD, ANY CELLULAR TELEPHONE, UH, CUSTOMER CAN CALL THAT NUMBER AND GET IMMEDIATE SERVICE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR.

AND YOU CAN ANTICIPATE WHEN YOU CALL, THERE'S GOING TO BE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED OF YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID YOU SEE? WHERE DID YOU SEE IT? IF IT'S A CAR, DO YOU HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF THE CAR? DO YOU HAVE A TAG NUMBER? ANY OF THAT INFORMATION THAT A CITIZEN CAN GATHER BEFORE CALLING US, OR WHILE THEY'RE TALKING TO US WOULD BE HELPFUL AND ALLOW US TO PURSUE THE ISSUE.

AFTER THE FACT, I WANT SOMEBODY ON A LAND LAB IN THEIR HOME, I CAN STILL DIAL THAT POUND TRA AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH IT.

NO, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO DO THAT.

AND STYLE 6 3, 3, 2 0 2 0.

SO THAT WOULD GET THEM RIGHT TO THE SAME PLACE THAT THE COMMITTEE.

SO I MIGHT CONSIDER PUTTING BOTH NUMBERS, MAYBE ON THE SIDE.

AGAIN, I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE THERE'S A WHITE SPACE ON THOSE SIGNS THAT SAY, IF YOU LET HER, YOU LOSE CHEESMAN, WORKING VERY HARD TO GET US HIS PHONE NUMBER SO THAT WHEN YOU SEE IT AS PERSON, CHUNKY'S LUNCH BAG OUT THE WINDOW, YOU CAN FIX IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR.

SO, LIKE I SAID, WHEN OLD CLINT EASTWOOD'S SAID, IF YOU FEEL LUCKY, GO AHEAD.

OH, WAIT.

FOR THIS DAY, WE'RE ALMOST THERE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GOING TO BE STICKING THAT ON MAN, AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN UP ANY QUESTIONS MR. MAYOR, SINCE HE'S SELECTED TO MAKE THIS REPORT, DOES THAT MAKE HIM THE PICK OF THE LITTER? I KNOW THAT'S PRETTY BAD, BUT IT'S THE BEST I CAN DO WITH WHAT YOU GAVE ME TO WORK WITH.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S RIGHT.

BUT SMILE, WHEN YOU SAY THIS RIGHT NOW, WE APPRECIATE THE DEPARTMENT'S INVOLVEMENT IN IT.

AND THE SERIOUSNESS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, WHEN I TALKED TO I'VE TOLD THEM FOLKS THIS BEFORE TALK ALL THE, UH, PATROL OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE IDEA BEING, AGAIN, THAT IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A TRASHY CITY, THEN YOU JUST GET KIND OF TRASHY WITH A BAY IN THE LAW, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CLEAN THINGS OUT AND KEEP IT STRAIGHT.

YOU'D BE MORE LIKELY TO NOT TO RUN THAT RED LIGHT AND DO SOMETHING TO OTHER THINGS.

SO IT'S A LOT OF DID THIS.

THERE'S ONE THING WE KNOW ABOUT CRIMINAL ELEMENT.

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WHEN SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIVE IN A CITY AND THEY COME INTO A PLACE, A CITY LIKE NEWBURGH, THEY LOOK AROUND AND THEY MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT THEY SEE.

IF THE PLACE LOOKS ORDERLY AND EVERYTHING IS NEAT AND CLEAN, AND THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND YOU'RE NOT AFRAID TO TAKE ACTION.

IF THEY SEE A TRASH OUT OF PLACE, THEN THEY ASSUME THAT THERE'S A LACK OF INITIATIVES AND LACK OF CARING.

AND SO YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, I ABSOLUTELY, WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TAKEN UP TO CHIEF.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

D DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE RESPONSE OF THESE FOUR PEOPLE WHO'VE GOT CITATIONS HAPPENED TO BE WHEN THEY WERE GIVEN A TICKET FOR LITTERING? UM, I REALLY, I REALLY DIDN'T.

I'VE NEVER HEARD THE YEARS I LIVE IN FAYETTEVILLE IN THE YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE.

I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE RECEIVING THEM TICKET FOR LITTERING.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING THE PEOPLE WHO GOT THEM PROBABLY I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE AGAIN, BUT GIVE YOU A LITTLE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I HAD THAT MAY REFLECT ON THE ATTITUDE OF SOME PEOPLE.

I WAS DRIVING DOWN NEUSE BOULEVARD THE OTHER DAY, AND IT CAME UP ALONGSIDE HIS PICKUP TRUCK TO HIS DRIVER'S SIDE WINDOW DOWN.

AND DO YOU KNOW THE CONFIGURATION OF A PERSON'S HAND WHEN THEY'RE JUST ABOUT TO FLICK A SWITCH, YOU KIND OF HAVE YOUR FINGER LIKE THAT AND CIGARETTES LAYING RIGHT THERE.

WELL, HE WENT LIKE THAT OUT THE WINDOW AND YOU MUST'VE GLANCED AND SAW MY UNIFORM AND HE WENT STRAIGHT FROM DOING THIS TO OH, SO YOU KNEW THAT GUY NEEDS TO GET GOOD THING.

OKAY.

BAIL HIS ASS.

THAT WAY THAT WE GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON DOWN TO NUMBER 12.

NOBODY HAS ANY OBJECTIONS AND TAKE CARE OF THAT CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HEAR ANY THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT IT.

I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET ME SOME GLASSES.

EXCUSE ME.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT IS TO PROBABLY HERE, PROBABLY HERE TO CHANGE THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FOR 54.67 ACRE TRACK ON THE FORM OF MATTERS FARM LOCATED PRICE.

WE'RE BORN ON 30 FEET SOUTH OF DR.

MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD BETWEEN LAKE VIEW ESTATES RIVER ROAD AND GLEN GREENLEAF MEMORIAL PARK, OR A 15 RESIDENTIAL TO R T N S RESIDENCE.

UH, LET ME GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND LAYER, OR THEN BEFORE PUBLIC, UH, HERE IN STAR, UH, AT THE LAST PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, THERE WAS TWO OR THREE PEOPLE FROM THIS AREA TO MEET.

AND THEN, UH, UH, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE MISUNDERSTOOD THE TIME OF THE MEETING.

SO AFTER THAT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, WHEN THEY CHANGED THIS FROM OUR 15 TO OUR 10 S UH, RECLASSIFICATION, MY PHONE BEGAN TO JUMP UP AND DOWN ABOUT, UH, THE 26TH IS THE DATE, MANY OF THEM THOUGHT.

SO IN THE MEANTIME I GOT WITH MIKE AND WE ORGANIZED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, WHICH WERE HAD LAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT UP HERE, UH, WITH MIKE AND BERNARD AND STUART SMITH REPRESENTING THE MEADOWS FOLKS AND MYSELF.

AND ABOUT TWO HOURS LATER, WE CAME TO A CONSENSUS OF WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.

UH, WE THOUGHT PROPOSED PARKS.

SO, UH, STUART WENT BACK TO, UH, THE MEN AND SPOKE TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT WITH WHATEVER COMPROMISE IT THEY WANTED TO MAKE.

AND THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT, BUT THE SPOKESMAN FOR THAT AREA HAD CONTACTED, TOLD ME LAST NIGHT, HAD CONTACT WITH ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE BD AND HAS AGREED TO A CONSENSUS OF, OF, OF AGREEING TO THIS FABRICATION.

AND I'D LIKE FOR THE RECORD OR STUART TO COME UP TO THE MIC AND TELL US MORE ABOUT THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY'VE BEEN MADE WITH THREE PEOPLE, UH, FOR THE ONE PROBABLY WATCHING THIS, UH, THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD, OR THE REQUEST THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MADE, UH, AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS THAT WE LEAVE A 50 FOOT NATURAL BUFFER BETWEEN THE LEFT VIEW OF STAGE PROPERTY AND OUR RESULT.

I WENT BACK TO THE METIS FAMILY.

THEY AGREED TO 40TH CITY.

MY BUY IN IS MY UNDERSTANDING NOW THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGREE WITH THAT.

YEAH, THEY SAY THAT 90 PLUS SENATOR AT ONE MEETING HAD BEEN CONTACTED AND AGREED.

AND, UH, SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S A HIGH ENOUGH PERCENTAGE TO, UH, TO GO AHEAD, BUT, UH, I WANTED THE BOARD TO KNOW THAT THERE HAD BEEN AN AGREEMENT MADE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE AT THE BOARD OF THAT AREA IN LAKE VIEW AND CYPRUS SHORES THAT SHOWED UP FROM THE MEETING.

AND, UH, I THINK WHEN THE PLAQUE COMES ALONG, BERNARD AND EMMA SORT OF TAKE CARE OF THAT AGREEMENT IN THAT, WELL, THERE'S THE ANTIBODY HERE TONIGHT.

IT IS AGAINST 40 FEET, OR MOST OF I CAN COMMENT ON THAT.

EVIDENTLY NOT.

LET ME, LET ME ASK YOU, UH, WHAT DOES THE, UH, WHAT IS OUR TNS?

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THAT'S SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT'S A SMALL, A LOT SINGLE THING, BUT THEY CAN STILL PUT THE SAME SIZE HOUSE IN THE AR 15.

SO THE MAIN CONCERN OF THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PERCEPTION OF A LARGER LOT MEANS A LARGER HOUSE.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUE, BUT THEY'VE AGREED TO THE, TO THE NATURAL BOUNDARY THAT'S THERE.

AND THE SMALL CLEARED AREA WOULD BE, BE PLANTED, UH, TO ACCEPT, UH, THE MEDICINES REQUEST, THE REGULAR RTN ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY IN IT, BUT ASR CAN ONLY ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, RIGHT? BUT IT'S SMALL LUNGS, SMALL 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'S QUARTER BY QUARTER OF A NICOLA AND IT HAS BEEN ADVERTISED.

SO IF ANYBODY WAS AGAINST, OH, NO, NO PROBLEM.

I JUST THINK SO WE'RE DOWN THE ROAD.

WE REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS OUR 10 S AND THE ONLY REASON I BRING THIS UP AND HOPE THAT I'M NOT ALIGNING A HUNDRED PROBLEMS WITH WHAT YOUR DONE BILL IS.

IF OUR 10 S IS WHAT I THINK IT IS.

I'VE SEEN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NOT NICE NEIGHBORHOODS CROWDED AS THEY ARE.

AND I DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS THAT.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS AT A LATER TIME.

WELL, THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH, UH, LAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT ABOUT THE SIZE AND THE GIFTS AND ALL OF THAT TO THE FOLKS THERE.

AND STEWART EXPLAINED IT TO HIM VERY WELL.

I THOUGHT, AND THAT FOR TWO HOURS, THEY AGREED AND WALK OVER THE ACCEPTABLE WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND PEOPLE WOULD WALK THROUGH.

YEAH.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE, AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY IT AND YOU KNOW HOW THEY LIKED THIS, BUT I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE ALLOWED TO GO INTO.

SOME OF THESE, NOT SOME OF THESE REDISTRICTING AREAS THAT HAVE REALLY WELL, AND THEY PUT TOO MANY PEOPLE IN TOO SMALL.

I'LL HAVE FUN.

SOME OF THE PLANNING STAFF GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU AND JUST GET SOME OF YOUR VIEWS AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.

THEY WILL TRY AND PUT SOMETHING.

OKAY.

BUT IT SURPRISED ME HOW YOU CAN CHANGE AROUND FIVE AND CAN USE THE VR 15 SPACE TOO, THAT YOU CAN WIND UP WITH MORE GOTCHA.

10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.

SO WHICH THAT WOULD BE A HUNDRED, 500, RIGHT, RIGHT.

THAT'S LIKE A HIGH DENSITY AREA, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I THINK THESE PAST VACATION, FOUR AREAS JUST APPROPRIATE TO SOME AREAS INAPPROPRIATE FOR OTHERS, BUT IN ANY EVENT, SINCE NO ONE IS AN OPPOSITION, UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE, WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BECAUSE I, IT WILL BE FEWER LISTENED TO THE PEOPLE FOR UH, WHY ARE WE HERE? IT IS CLOSED.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE ZONING CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY THE VOTE.

THE SECOND, THAT MOTION.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THAT, PLEASE? MA'AM YES.

OH, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO BACK TO NUMBER SIX.

INSTEAD OF SUBMITTING A GRANT APPLICATION IS I KNOW WHAT CAROLINA PUBLIC BEACH AND WATER ACCESS BUYS TO CONSTRUCT RECREATION WALKING SLASH BIKING BRIDGE OVER LAWSON'S CREEK AT FIRST STREET.

YES.

MA'AM.

I THINK I'VE ALREADY SAID IT UM, IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING TO ASK FOR, TO ALLOW STAFF, TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION, UH, TO THE DIVISION OF COASTAL MANAGEMENT FOR THE NORTH CAROLINA PUBLIC BEACH, COASTAL WATER ACCESS GRANT PROGRAM LAST YEAR, JUST ABOUT THIS EXACT SAME TIME AND ASKED YOU TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION, WHICH WE DID FOR THE WALKWAY AROUND THE CONVENTION CENTER, IT ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THE WALKWAY, AND IT LOOKS MORE AT COMPLIMENTS, THE CONVENTION CENTER CAR.

AND THIS IS THE SAME ANNUAL GRANT PROCESS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THE SAME PROPOSAL THIS TIME IS THIS YEAR IS TO CONSTRUCT A PEDESTRIAN SLASH BICYCLE ACCESS BRIDGE OVER LAWSON CREEK, UH, OVER LAWSON CREEK FROM, UH, FIRST STREET, THE PUBLIC WATERWAY THERE THAT DADDY ENDS IN DEATH OF WATER TO LAWSON CREEK PARK CITY FACILITY.

THIS BRIDGE WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 225 FEET LONG.

IT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FEET WIDE, WHICH

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WOULD ALLOW COMFORTABLY PEDESTRIANS BICYCLISTS PEDESTRIANS PASS ON EITHER SIDE.

IT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED.

AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ELEVATION, BUT THE ENGINEER THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH AND THEY'RE COMING OUT WITH CONSTRUCTION SPECIFICATIONS TO ALLOW A SMALL RECREATIONAL BOAT TO PASS UNDER IT, JUST AS, UH, THE TYPE OF BOATS THAT MIGHT GO UP THEIR FISH CREEK RIGHT NOW TO ALLOW THAT CONTINUE.

OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE A WAR, UH, STRUCTURE.

UM, THE CITY WOULD DO, UM, CONTRACT FOR THE LARGER PORTION OF IT.

THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BRIDGE AND IN THE CITY STAFF WOULD DO MORE OF THE LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING, SIGNAGE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

UH, MAYBE GET YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER ORIENTED, MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE IS, UH, THIS IS THE OVERPASS BRIDGE ROAD WALK BUILDINGS YOU SEE THERE.

AND THIS IS FIRST STREETS AND PUBLIC .

IS THAT THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY? IS THAT THE STREET RIGHT AWAY BETWEEN DIA BIKES AND SCOTT, TOM? WHERE, WHERE ARE THE BOAT RAMPS ON THAT THERE TO THE, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT IT TO THE RIGHT OF THE BRIDGE, CORRECT CHEETAH, RIGHT? OF COURSE I LOST.

OH, LOST.

OH, THAT'S AROUND TO THE RIGHT.

I CAN'T VISUALIZE ANYONE LAUNCHING A BOAT TALL ENOUGH TO, YEAH.

AND THE OTHER THING TOO, MAX, IS THAT ON THE BACK TO THE LEFT OF THE RED LINE WAS THE SO DEAD END DOWN THERE THAT USUALLY DON'T HAVE.

AND I UNDERSTAND, AND, AND THE BRIDGE WOULD BE TALL ENOUGH, LIKE SHE SAYS, FOR ANY FISHING TYPE BOATS TO GO ON THERE, NOBODY'S GOING TO LAUNCH ANYTHING BIGGER THAN SAYING 1920 FOOT SKI BOAT AT THOSE RAMPS ANYWAY, REALLY, BUT THEY'RE BEYOND THE BRIDGE.

SO IT WON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN WHERE THIS IS A, ANOTHER PIECE IN THE CITY'S LONG RANGE, VERY LONG RANGE PLANS FOR CONNECTIVITY.

ALL ALONG THE WATERFRONT, THIS PEDESTRIAN ACCESS BRIDGE WOULD ALLOW THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF BOSTON CREEK, UH, WHARF NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT PARK WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING TO GO ONTO THE BUSY FIRST STREET FOUR LANE.

HOW MIGHT WE IMPROVE SAFETY AND MAKE A NICE FEATURE FOR THE PARK? FOLKS COULD GET TO THE PARK AND ENJOY THE PARK KIND OF SUPPORT THAT THIS IS A PAGE FROM THE 1988 WATERFRONT CONSERVATION PLAN.

AND YOU SEE HERE, HERE, SISTER DISTRICT BREAD, THAT'S A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE CREEK, BUT, UM, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A LITTLE FURTHER UP THE CREEK TO IMPACT LESS PROPERTY.

LOOK AT THE BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT.

THE, AND I PUT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU ALL, UH, HANK WAS UP THERE TALKING TO THE CONTRACTOR, THE CONTRACTOR, AND THEN IT FROM THE CITY AND PROMPTS AND MATERIAL, THE LANDSCAPING AND THE SIGNAGE AND THE LIGHTING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

63,750 IS WHAT WE WOULD REQUEST FROM THE VISION.

COASTAL MANAGEMENT AND 19,250 WOULD BE A CASH MATCH FROM THE CITY AND ASK YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THIS EVENING IS GIVING US THE STAFF DIRECTION TO GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT THIS GRANT.

WELL, WE ARE FORTUNATE TO GET FINE MEAN, IS THAT THE ONE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP BEFORE THAT IT MIGHT BE CLOSE OFF OR SOMETHING, AND SO YOU COULDN'T GET BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CROSSING YEAH.

DISCUSSION BEFORE THE MEETING IS THAT LAWSON CREEK PARK IS THAT CLOSED AT CERTAIN TIMES AT NIGHT.

YEAH.

PARK CLOSES.

AND WE WILL PROBABLY START USING THAT GATE BEFORE TOO LONG MAY WANT TO THINK TO SOMETIME IN ADDITION TO THE SIGN THAT THE PARK IS CLOSED AND MAYBE SOMETHING VISUALLY, YOU KNOW, TO, TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT THAT IS QUITE.

AND WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET THEM MET AND FISH, YOU CALL THEM BIKE, RIDING AND WALKING OR WHATEVER DOES THAT PRECLUDE PEOPLE FROM ALL THE FISH I MAKE FROM FISHING OFF THEM AND MAKING FISH? I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GOOD USE FOR THAT.

I THINK THAT I THINK THAT THE CENTER SEXUAL HAVE TO BE MARKED, NO FISHING

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OR BOATS MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE MONOFILAMENT FISHING LINE HANGING OUT, HANGING.

AND THEN I CAN REALLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO ALLOW ANY FISHING OFF THAT APPEAR FOR THAT REASON.

THEY CAN FISH OFF THE BOAT, LAUNCHING BEERS IF THEY WANT TO.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WILL WORK THAT 1988 PLAN.

I WAS ON THAT GROUP.

AND, AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I BROUGHT THIS, I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE I KEEP THINKING OF HAVING THAT WALKWAY ALL THE WAY FROM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AROUND LAWSON CREEK PARK.

AND YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE GOT LIKE $90,000 TO PUT THAT LITTLE WALKWAY, WE HAVE NOW AROUND LAWSON CREEK PARK.

I HOPE WE CAN IMPROVE THAT THING AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

AND PETE, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL SAY, WE'LL NEVER HAVE THAT WALKWAY ALL THE WAY AROUND THAT AREA BECAUSE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT EXISTS.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO ALLOW US THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT NEVER IS A LONG, LONG TIME.

AND I THINK THAT, UH, I PROBABLY, I WON'T BE SITTING HERE WHEN IT HAPPENS.

I KNOW IT'LL BE A WHILE, BUT I THINK THAT SOMEDAY WE WILL HAVE THAT WALKWAY ALL THE WAY FROM HISTORIC DISTRICT AROUND, ACROSS THIS BRIDGE OR WHATEVER BRIDGE IS EVENTUALLY BUILT THERE.

HOPEFULLY THIS ONE WILL BE THE ONE AND THE WALKWAY AROUND LAWSON CREEK PARK.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT JUST, THIS TOWN HAS CRIES OUT FOR BEING A WATERFRONT TOWN.

DADDY, COULD YOU, COULD YOU CUT THE VOLUME DOWN? JUST A LITTLE THAT RINGING FROM THE FEEDBACK IS IT'S JUST A HAIR TOO HIGH THAT IT DRIVES PEOPLE CRAZY.

WE'RE LISTENING TO IT ON TELEVISION.

CAN YOU HEAR THE RINGING? OKAY.

I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT FOR A MINUTE, IF SOMETHING WAS HAPPENING, BUT ANYWAY, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR ON IT.

WHO IS THE, UH, THE OFFICIAL AGENCY OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD PRINT A BRIDGE GOING OVER WATER.

I MEAN, DOES THAT ALREADY BEEN OKAYED BY THE, WHOEVER IT IS MONEY, WE HAVE TO GET A MAJOR CAMEL PERMIT AND THEY WERE CIRCULATED THROUGH ALL VARIOUS AGENCIES AND THE ARMY CORPS WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE AGENCIES.

THE REASON I'M ASKING IS YOU GO INTO CAMERA.

I THINK FOR THE GRANT, YOU HAVE TO BE KIND OF STRANGE AND THEM TO GRANT US MONEY TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T BE APPROVED.

THEN AGAIN, IT'S GOT TO BE APPROVED BY THE RIGHT AGENCY OR A GOING ANYWHERE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

A DIVISION FOUR QUALITY PASTOR SPEAKING, WHEN THEIR STAFF A BRIDGE IS A BRIDGE ISN'T ALLOWED TO USE.

SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE THE ARMY.

OKAY.

SO LET'S SAY I MOVE, WE SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT, IS THAT A VOICE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AND WHEN YOU'RE GOING, DO I JUST TAKE A STAB AT IT AND JUST SAY VOICE VOTE OR WHATEVER.

HEY, LET HER ROLL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'LL DO THEN I GOT TOO BAD.

BEING ALONE WILL GET ME DOWN.

WELL, THEY RECENTLY, THE INFORMATION IS IN MAYER IS MY MICROPHONE.

I WAS SPEAKING TO LAST.

SO IS THAT WHAT IT IS? WELL, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT ABOUT MYSELF.

LET'S SAY HERE I SPOKE A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN NUMBER SEVEN, PROBABLY HERE TO CONSIDER IT 2001, 2002 CITY BUDGET.

AND WE PUBLISHED THE THING.

WE'VE KIND OF GIVEN AN OUTLINE OF IT.

AND I GUESS WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF ANYBODY HERE WANTS TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS BUDGET, ANYBODY HERE RAISE YOUR HAND.

THAT WANTS TO MAKE ANY COMMENT.

ALRIGHT, COME FORTH.

AND YOU HAVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE NOT INFORMED CAREY TO DO 19TH STREET KIDS.

UH, MORE TO SAY THAT TAX IS NOT GOING TO BE INCREASED OR YOU'RE NOT HAVING ANY INCREASE IN THE TAX.

NOPE, THAT'S RIGHT.

AND I HAVE TO COMPLIMENT THEIR BUDGETS.

UNFORTUNATELY.

UM, ONE DAY LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, UH, WE HAD A PUBLIC NOTICE THAN IS AVAILABLE IN THE LIBRARY SO PEOPLE COULD GO AND SEE IT.

UM, I KNOW THE COUNTY,

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I HAD TO GO TO THE CITY OFFICE OR THEIR OFFICE, AND IT'S KIND OF INTIMIDATING TO GO IN AND SAY, CAN I ACTUALLY GO INTO A PRIVATE ROOM? I THINK THAT YOU HAVE NOT.

UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET AND THE COUNTY CUT OUT FUNDING, THE SHIRT ORGANIZATIONS LIKELY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE THAT YOU'VE GOT THE MIC AND IT TO BE, UH, WITHOUT A INCREASE TO THE RESIDENTS.

UH, AS FOR THE SIGN THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, PUTTING THE, UM, PHONE NUMBER ON THE TICKET AND YOU LOSE IT.

MY WIFE KEPT BUGGING ME.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE.

AND I SAID, IT'S STILL THERE.

I'M GOING TO PUT YOUR PHONE UP.

FINE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THE LITERARY PROGRAM.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I HOPE IT CONTINUES.

AND LOOK, MR. HOPKINS, IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT NUMBER AND BE THE FIRST GUY TO CALL ONE AND BE MY GUEST, HE GOES, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN IT UP AND I APPRECIATE YOU, YOUR COMMENTS THERE.

OKAY.

MS. HOPKINS, JERRY, IF YOU WANT TO, NEXT YEAR, WHEN THE BUDGETS GET RID OF YOU DONE, WHOEVER IS YOUR ALDERMAN AT THE TIME, JUST TELL THEM YOU WANT TO SEE HIS BUDGET BOOK AND YOU KEEP IT FOR A WHOLE WEEK.

NO, THEY CALLED THEM THE SECOND WEEK OF JUNE.

WE ALWAYS GET SHOW.

WELL, YEAH, WE GET, YEAH, BUT, UH, WHAT HAPPENS IN US LIKE THIS YEAR? WHAT WAS IT? JUNE THE NINTH, JUNE, TONIGHT WITH THAT'S WHEN WE MEET AND WE SPEND THAT WHOLE DAY WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS PRESENTING TO US WHAT THEY WANT AND WHAT HE'S DONE BEFORE THAT HAS GONE THROUGH AND TAKEN EACH ONE, THE LINE ITEMS. AND EVA'S IN HIS OPINION, APPROVED IT, REDUCED IT DOWN THIS OR THAT.

YEAH.

I'M SURE.

I WOULD SAY IT'S THAT LONG TO PUT IT TOGETHER.

I'D ALSO SAY THAT, UH, WHENEVER YOU SEE THAT OUR BUDGET HAS BEEN PRESENTED, WE ALWAYS THE NEXT DAY TAKE A COPY TO THE LIBRARY.

AND SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO DOWN THERE.

ANYTIME YOU SEE IT IN THE PAPER WE PRESENTED THE BUDGET.

THERE'LL BE A COPY IN THE LIBRARY.

THE NEXT DAY THERE WAS A ADVERTISEMENT.

IT WENT INTO OVER 10 DAYS AGO.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, AND IT SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT IT WAS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION AT THE LIBRARY.

AND THAT CITY HALL HERE, THERE IT IS.

I STILL NEED TO LOOK THESE, LOOK AT IT.

ANYTIME YOU HEAR IT'S BEEN PRESENTED.

IF YOU GO TO THE LIBRARY AND BE THERE, YOU CAN CHECK THAT.

OKAY.

UH, SINCE THERE'S NOBODY, I GUESS NOBODY ELSE HERE TO COMMENT ON THE BUDGET FOR AGAIN IN OR WHATEVER.

SO I MOVE IT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

UH, OKAY.

AND THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

I CAN'T COMPLETE IT.

YEAH.

I, I MOVE THAT.

WE ADOPT THE BUDGET FOR THE, UH, THE BOARD BUDGET ORDINANCE OR THE BUDGET FOR THE 2001, 2002, UH, FISCAL YEAR HERESY.

I COULDN'T HEAR YOU ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IF NOT CALL ROLL, PLEASE.

MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES.

PRINT THIS THING IN MIGHTY SMALL PRINT.

UH, AND WE'RE I TRYING TO MAKE IT MARGIN FOR YOU FOR NOW.

AND I WAS GOING TO SAY ALSO THAT I HAD A CALL FROM DON MCDOWELL TODAY, AND HE SAID TO GIVE YOU HIS REGARDS AND THAT HE WAS SORRY, HE COULDN'T BE HERE TO VOTE AGAINST THE BUDGET AND HE MEANS IT AND HE MADE A QUESTION ABOUT IT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

NEXT THING IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER CERTIFICATES OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY TO OPERATE TAXI CABS AND THE CITY OF NEWBURGH AND A CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE ON THE SECOND RATING.

SO WE'VE HAD A NECESSARY TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAD THAT AT THE LAST MEETING, THE QUESTION AND THE DOCTOR IN THE ORDINANCE, LUMP SECONDARY, UH, MOVE, WORRY ABOUT THE ORDINANCE ON SECONDARY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AND MOCK ALL ROLL, PLEASE.

MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER NINE, PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO CLOSE AND UNIMPROVED PORTION OF NELSON STREET BETWEEN CHESTNUT AND MCKINLEY AVENUE.

UM, MAYOR THIS MATTER IS IN MY DISTRICT.

AND, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT VOTE ON THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AT THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE I NEED TO TALK TO SOME FOLKS, BUT GO AHEAD AGAIN.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

UM, MOVING

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FORWARD THIS ITEM, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS APPROACHED ME AND, UH, AND THEN TO KIND OF AND THEY SORT OF AGREED THAT IT'D BE FLOATED.

THEY HAD TO BE A LANDLOCKED INGRESS EGRESS IF THIS IS CLOSED.

AND, UH, WE SEE NO REASON THREE, THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE, UH, IN NEW ORLEANS TONIGHT, IT DOES INCLUDE THE REMAINING OF A UTILITY EASEMENT.

BUT, UH, ALL OF THE OTHERS INVOLVED IN THERE DESIGN SIGNS OUT THERE MAY.

I'M NOT, NO ONE'S CALLING ME.

THAT'S FINE.

BUT NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS THE CASE.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, LET ME ASK THEN SINCE IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, IS ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM OR AGAINST IT MOVE TO PUBLIC HEARING BE CLOSED.

OKAY.

WE'RE HERE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY, AYE.

I MOVE WITH THE ORDINANCE.

CLOSING THE STREET.

SECOND OF FURTHER DISCUSSION.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES.

YEAH.

NEXT ITEM.

NUMBER 10, PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO CLOSE FRANCES AVENUE.

IS THAT YOU, AGAIN, YOU AREN'T LEAVING AWAY FOR US TO GET OUT OF HERE.

UH THE TREAT WAS DEVELOPED APPROVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO DURING THE DISRUPTION NURSING NEVER EXCEPT ABOUT A CITY.

A BUSINESS AND THE HOSPITAL , UH, WE SEE THEM STEALING A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND THE PROPERTIES WILL BE, UH, LANDLOCKED HAS ACCESS IN RESUME DRESS.

EXCUSE ME.

IT'S JUST A STREET BEHIND THE NURSING HOME.

IT'S DISTRICT BY THE RESCUE.

YES.

IT GOES IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.

IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY TO GET TO THE BACK BUILDING SIDE OF THE STREET, BACK ON THE NURSING HOME, OTHER THAN THIS STREET? NO, THEY HAD SSL POSITIVE.

I MEAN, YOU COULD GO AROUND.

OKAY.

THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO GET BEHIND EFFECTED REQUESTED, AND ALSO THE REMAINDER OF THE UTILITIES.

BUT ALONG THAT LINE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY UTILITY THROUGH MINES DOWN THERE.

AND, UH, I HAVE, I HAD ONE GUNS OFF ON RESIDENTS AND, UH, TALK TO THEM AND I THINK THEY'RE HAPPY.

I'VE NOT HAD ANY OTHER COMPLAINTS THAT IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT'S AGAINST US CLOSE THE THAT I'M JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER A WAY TO GET BEHIND THAT.

JUST CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE WAY.

I MEAN, THE REQUEST IS GOING FROM BASICALLY THE RESTAURANT.

THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S FINE.

BUT THEY HAD ACCESS FROM HERE IN OPPOSITION TO MOVE.

WE CLOSED PUBLIC HERE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, HOW, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT ANY DRAINAGE PROBLEMS? I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DRAINAGE PROBLEMS DOWN THERE AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN A LOT OF COOPERATION FROM THE HOSPITAL AND TRYING TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. AND, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST CREATING MORE PROBLEMS IN ACCESS TO THAT AREA.

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MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS THE BOARD.

THIS IS THE SAME STREET AND IT WAS ADDRESSED IN A RESOLUTION, WHICH THE BOARD NOT LAST NAME, FRED CARMICHAEL IS CONDUCTING A PROCEDURE TO WITHDRAW THAT STREET DEDICATION.

UNDER ANOTHER SECTION OF THE STATUTE, I TALKED TO HIM, HE SAID IN EFFECT, HE WAS JUST BEING SURE.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED.

WELL, THIS BOARD APPROVED NOT, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WILL BE CLOSED.

IN FACT, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT CALL ROLL, PLEASE.

MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

WE SHOULD GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS DOWN IN THAT AREA AGAIN, AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 11, PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, 2001 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT INFRASTRUCTURE, APPLICATION FUND $550,000 FOR WATER AND SEWER LINE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA, UH, BETWEEN GARDEN EAST ROSE AND BIDDLE STREET, MR. GEORGE ANTIQUATED LINES AND, UH, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT RESEARCH.

YOU FEEL THAT THE APPLICATION WILL STEAL THE COMPETITIVE GRANT APPLICATIONS FROM AROUND THE STATE, ALL NO SEVERE OR MODERATE NATURE AT THIS TIME, THIS IS THE SECOND OF TWO TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION GRANT DOCUMENTS.

AND THIS WOULD BE A THOUSAND DOLLAR COMMITMENT CONTINGENT UPON US GETTING THE $550,000 GRANT.

SO WE'D BE ABLE TO DO 600 AND PICK A THOUSAND OUT OF THE WORD, WENT OUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

IF IT ALL COMES TO YELL THE CORN HOLE, ANY COMMENT, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE SUPPOSE US APPLYING FOR THIS GRANT? I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE SURE NOBODY WAS HERE? WE ALL HERE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

NO, NO, NO GRANT, NO HE'S APPLIED.

HE'S GIVEN THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS, BUT THE PROJECT HAS GONE TO RALEIGH FOR THEM TO APPROVE.

ONCE THEY ARE APPROVED, THEN WE WILL BEGIN TO CONSTRUCT A PROJECT.

THAT'S NOT A GRANT PROJECT THAT WOULD BE DONE WITH OUR FORCES AND OUR, AND OUR FUNDS.

SO WELL, YOUR PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE SEWER ONCE THE PLANS, ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED.

IF YOU WAIT, IF YOU WANT APPLY CORE GRANT, YOU CAN.

BUT IF YOU DO, IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A GRANT PROCESS AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT LONGER TIME

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WHO WAS TELLING YOU THIS? WELL, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT A GRANT, BUT I MEAN, THIS PROJECT IS ALREADY ON OUR SLATE TO DO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO DEPEND ON A GRANT OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'VE ALREADY PLANNED TO DO THIS PROJECT.

WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN YES, HIS PROJECT.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN APPROVAL FROM THE STATE YET.

SO YOU ACTUALLY, YOU HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM THEM TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND START CONSTRUCTION.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING FROM THEM ON NOW IS WHEN WE GET THAT APPROVAL, THEN WE'RE GONNA START LAYING OUR PLANS TO GO OUT THERE AND TO DO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION ITSELF THIS YEAR.

SO, UH, THE THIS IS A, THIS IS ALSO A LOW AND MODERATE INCOME BENEFIT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT THERE ARE MANY IN YOUR OWN, IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR THE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE FOR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME.

OH, GOOD.

WE HAVE TO CHECK THAT OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T QUALIFY.

THAT'D BE UNDER YOU BERNARD.

YES.

.

WELL, COULD WE MAKE SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT IN THAT CATEGORY? I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE, YES, WE .

WELL, THAT'S FINE.

BUT I MEAN, STILL, I GUESS THAT QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE WONDERING IF THEY'RE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR A GRANT, IT, IT MAKES THAT HELPS THEM MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

THEN I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO LOOK INTO THE SITUATION AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT THE ANSWER IS.

IF, IF, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TAP FEE AND THE CONNECTION TO YOUR HOME, NOT THE ACTUAL LINES ITSELF THAT ARE OUT IN THE STREET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THE CONNECTION FEES AND EVERYTHING, THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING THIS GRANT ARE NOT GOING TO DO CONNECT TO FACEBOOK.

THEY'RE ALREADY CONNECTED.

THIS IS A GRANT THAT WILL REPLACE AN EXISTING LINE THAT'S OUT THERE.

THAT WON'T BE AS CHORUS AND LEAVE, BUT THEY WON'T BE PAYING ANY TAP FEES.

THEY WON'T, THIS GRANT WILL BE FUNDING ANY TAP FEES BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE TAPS TO BE DONE.

THE TAPS ARE ALREADY THERE.

AND SO RIGHT.

BUT AGAIN, YOU GET INTO THE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME BENEFIT AND YOU, AND IT JUST DIDN'T QUALIFY.

YOUR PEOPLE OUT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NOT GOING TO QUALIFY FOR THAT 51% LOW AND MODERATE BENEFIT THAT IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE DONE.

SO WE, THE BEST THING THAT YOU CAN DO IN THESE KINDS OF GRANTS IS YOU GO FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF GETTING FUNDED FOR, IF YOU, YOU CAN PUT IN A GRANT APPLICATION FOR ANYTHING, BUT IF YOUR GRANT APPLICATION IS NOT, UH, WISELY DONE, YOU'RE COMPETING WITH LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANT THAT MONEY.

AND SO THEY COME IN WITH A VERY LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE WHO NEED THIS, UH, VERY DESPERATELY.

AND SO YOUR THING DOES NOT STACK UP WELL BECAUSE THE INCOME BENEFITS ARE TOO HIGH.

AND SO, UH, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IN DETERMINING WHAT TO DO WITH A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION IS NOT SO MUCH LOOK AT WHO'S GOING TO GET IT AND WHAT AREAS ARE GOING TO BE.

BUT WE LOOK AT WHERE CAN WE GET THE MOST AMOUNT OF, UH, UH, UH, POINTS AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE COMPETITIVELY.

SO WE CAN ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF GETTING THIS FUNDING.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS AREA WAS SELECTED VERSUS SAY YOUR AREA OR GLENBURNIE GARDENS OR SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS LIKE THAT.

THAT WAS THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASONING BEHIND IT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT IS GENERALLY FOR NEW THINGS, BUT, UH, THIS IS SUCH A DILAPIDATED SYSTEM THAT'S OUT IN THAT AREA UNTIL WE THINK IT WILL BE FAIRLY COMPETITIVE, EVEN AGAINST, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A GOOD, LOW, MODERATE, UH, INCOME, UH, SECTION IN THERE THAT WILL RAISE OUR POINTS SIGNIFICANTLY FOR THAT WHILE LOWERING THE POINT SINCE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT ARE INVOLVED, BUT CAN WE LOOK AT HIS AREA AND DETERMINED OR AN EXAMPLE, HEY, IF IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY WOULD EVEN BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR A GRANT AND IF THEY CAN QUALIFY, THEN WE WOULD HAVE A SAY AS TO THE CHANCES OF THEM GETTING A GRANT.

AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THERE'S A POOL

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OF MONEY OUT THERE AND WE HAVE TO COMPETE AGAINST THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES AND GETTING THAT MONEY.

AND IF OUR QUOTE UNQUOTE K SAID, DO GOOD ENOUGH, WE AIN'T GONNA GET THE MONEY.

RIGHT? AND, AND, BUT AGAIN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL THESE FOLKS WHETHER THEY EVEN QUALIFY FOR US TO GO AFTER A GRANT, THEN THEIR ARGUMENT MIGHT BECOME WHETHER YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE ONES THAT WE GO AFTER IT, WE HAD ALL YOUR CHANCES OF VERY SMALL, COZY INCOME WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT HIGH, BUT AT LEAST WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION.

AND THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

IT SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION HERE THAT THEY'RE ASKING, YOU KNOW, IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO QUALIFY FOR A GRANT? AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE, THAT WE CLEARLY KNOW THAT ANSWER.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK HIM IF HE WILLED IT, SEE IF HE CAN'T QUALIFY THAT.

UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, BERNARD, UH, WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME THAT THIS HAS GOT TO BE SUBMITTED BY THREE DAYS? NO, WELL, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT VERSUS THIS PARTICULAR ONE HERE, BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE.

WE ALL AGREE HERE THAT THEY WOULD BE OF A LESSER.

I THINK YOU ALL AGREE THAT YOU'D HAVE LESS OF A CHANCE OF GETTING IT.

AND THESE POOR PEOPLE WITH A DILAPIDATED SYSTEM, THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE JUST TOTALLY NOT LEFT OFF, ET CETERA.

THAT'S GREAT.

AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO AHEAD WITH THIS, BUT THESE APPLICATIONS DON'T COME EVERY WEEK.

SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS AS A CYCLE FOR ONE YEAR.

SO IT WILL BE ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE THE NEXT FUNDING CYCLE COMES UP.

AND SO BY THAT TIME, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO YOUR PROJECT.

IT WILL JUST DEPEND ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO WAIT A YEAR TO TRY TO BE COMPETITIVE, AND WE CAN LOOK AT YOUR COST BENEFITS ON I DON'T REMEMBER TALKING TO YOU ABOUT ANY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TYPE PROJECTS IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE YOUR AREA IS NOT ONE THAT QUALIFIES FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE WHICH PROGRAM DAVID MUSE IS TALKING ABOUT, BUT I'M SURE HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT A LOW, MODERATE INCOME PROGRAM TO DO THAT.

SO, WELL, WE'LL JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE SITUATION THERE SO WE CAN CLEAR THE AIR.

WE DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT SOMEHOW YOU'RE NOT GETTING CONSIDERATION THAT YOU SHOULD.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.

RIGHT.

MOSTLY.

I DON'T THINK THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE TO COMPETE AGAINST THOSE OTHER PEOPLE.

I ASK.

THEY MIGHT HAVE PRETTY CLEAR.

THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO DERAIL THIS PROJECT.

THEY JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBLE WAY, THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED UNDER ANY OTHER GRANTS OR WHATEVER, THEN THEY COULD TAKE A LOOK OUT, SAY THEY ARE NOT HERE TO, TO AFFECT THAT PROJECT AT ALL.

SO I HOPE I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WERE TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS, WITH THIS GRANT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? OKAY.

DID I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING OUT THERE THAT THEY CAN GET INSERTED FOR IT AND THEY CAN GET CONSIDERED.

AND NOW WE HAVE A QUESTION ON CLOSING THE PUB HERE AND HAVE WE VOTED ON THAT YET? AND I'LL GET WITH MR. MUSE AND I WILL I'LL TALK TO HIM ABOUT WHAT HE WAS EXACTLY GETTING AT WITH THE GRANT THING AND TRY AND GET BACK WITH YOU WITH SOME INFORMATION.

OKAY.

YOUR KIDS MOSTLY IT WAS SECONDED BY WAS MR. WAS THERE AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

NO, I MOVE.

WE SUBMIT THE APPLICATION FOR THE GRANT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE NOT CALLED A ROLL, PLEASE? MA'AM NO NEED TO, YOU DON'T NEED TO THANK YOU MR. WALL.

AND I SEE WHEN YOU'RE NOT HERE NEXT TIME WE AIN'T GOING TO BE CALLING THE WRONG.

WELL, YOU DO KNOW THAT.

I JUST REMEMBER THE ROLE IS ONLY FOR RESOLUTION AND THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU DID TELL ME THAT IF IN CASE YOU CAN ALWAYS ERR, ON THE SIDE, I CALL THEM THE ROAD RIGHT CALLED .

OKAY.

SO WHERE ARE WE NOW? NUMBER

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WHERE WE DID NUMBER 12.

AND THAT WAS NUMBER 11.

SO IT CAN SEND IT, THEN MOVE IT DOWN.

LET'S CONSIDER DONE.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AND PLAN IF I CALL A ROLE, PLEASE, MAN.

UM, YES, YES, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT THING IS APARTMENT SUPPOSED TO MATTER.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

IT'S FREE.

NOTHING.

CAN I ANSWER? OKAY, MR. .

OKAY.

NO PROBLEM WAS MISCELLANEOUS.

MR. MATTINGLY, LORD HAVE MERCY.

MR. FREE CHECK.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WRONG POINT TO THE, UM, CHEESY.

OKAY.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, THERE ARE AN ATTORNEY'S REPORT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US A PARTING SHOT? THAT'S AWESOME, MAN.

MAMA'S THE BOARD.

I DO NOT HAVE A PORT, BUT I WOULD AGAIN TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE CINDY, AS LONG AS I HAVE, AS I SAID, I HAVE ENJOYED MOTHER DAUGHTER, BUT YOU WOULD ENJOY SOME OTHER THINGS.

WELL, TODAY YOU GO AND I APPRECIATE IT AND WE'LL, WE'LL MISS YOU, BUT SOMEHOW WE'LL KNOW YOU'RE HERE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, HOW ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER? DOES HE HAVE ANY NO, SIR.

I HAVE ONE SHORT ISSUE AS ANOTHER ORDINANCE THAT IMMENSE THE 1999 WEED AND SEED PROGRAM.

BY WHAT IT DOES IS THEY EXTENDS IT SOMETIMES BECAUSE THERE'S STILL SOME EXPENDITURES TO BE MADE IN THAT PROGRAM.

AND SO WE DID, BUT THE DATES RUNNING OUT FOR THE PROJECT COORDINATORS.

SO THIS WILL EXTEND THAT DATE AND IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU NEEDED TO DO IN THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO MY MOVE THIS ORDINANCE HERE A SEC.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IF NOT CALL THE ROLL PLEASE, MAN.

YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

AND BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I JUST FEEL LIKE I NEED TO SAY YES.

I TOLD HIM MY WIFE HAS TO BITE.

MR. WARREN, YOU HAVE AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL WIFE NOW SHE'S STILL HERE.

SO NOW I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT IN THERE EVER SINCE I CAN REMEMBER THAT AS I FIND NICE LOOKING LADY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I KNEW.

WELL, I WANT TO SAY, YEAH, I DO HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR TIME AND REALLY, I WISH I COULD JOIN.

YEAH.

WELL YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE IT.

JUST GET UP ON WHAT YOU WANT TO LIVE OFF OF IT.

RIGHT? WE'LL DROP THE HAMMER ON THIS THING AFTER 48, WHAT WAS IT? 44 YEARS.

ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE, GOOD NIGHT.