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WITH ACCOMMODATING MR. RAINE, JESSICA, ON THAT PARTICULAR TRACK AND THEN DO A STATIC ON THE EXISTING TRACKS.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? WITH WHAT I CALL THE CEO OF YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE WOULD SAY
HER HAS EXTERIOR METALS ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT.
THAT'S NOT A VERY ATTRACTIVE BUILDING.
THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTED US STRETCHING COMPANY.
THAT'S A MAJOR CONCERN, RIGHT? DOWN.
WELL, LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT A DEAL.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING AT ALL.
WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS DISCUSSING AND ASKING QUESTIONS.
THAT ALL THIS CAME UP, WE WENT THROUGH THE SYSTEM
YOU SAY THAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE LAW REQUIRES US TO ACT.
AND NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, WE DON'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO DO SOMETHING.
THAT'S WHY WE STOOD UP OUR HANDS ON THAT BIBLE.
AND I DON'T THINK, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, WE HAVEN'T COME TO ANY PRE PRE DESIGNED CONCLUSION ON WE'VE BEEN PRESSURED.
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WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THIS COMMITTEE.IT'S NOT FIXING, THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.
UH, I TRIED TO CALL AND GET WENT BACK AND GOT AS HIGH AS 30 MILLION.
AND YOU WERE YOU WEREN'T HOME AND LEFT MESSAGES IN THE MEANTIME, THE SYRINGE CALLED AND WE TALKED AND HE WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT YOUR CONCERNS WERE.
AND I TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS CONCERNED WHERE HE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE IT.
SHE WANTED THE QUARTER SIZE WITH A GROWTH.
AND YOU ALSO WANTED, UH, IT'S STIPULATED IN, UH, IN SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT WOULD GUARANTEE THAT THEY HAD TO MAKE THE PRETTY AND UNDEFENDED AND THAT KIND OF THING, WHICH HE AGREED.
HE WOULD HAD TO PUT IN A DEEP.
AND WHEN I CALLED YOU THE FIRST TIME HE TOLD ME, WE CALL EACH OTHER TWO OR THREE TIMES.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WHEN WE TAUGHT THEM THAT, YES, THIS WOULD BE OKAY.
AND I CALLED HIM MR. RAINS AND TOLD HIM, I SAYS, WELL,
AND THEN THE NIGHT AT THE BREAK, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TOGETHER.
AND THEN WE'RE BACK TO WHEN WE SAY, HEY, WE'LL TAKE THE CALL TO SET FOR THAT IS TRULY, WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT YOU ALL WILL ADDRESS THE PROBLEM THAT'S OCCURRING.
IT'S NOT ONCE WE SELL THIS ISSUE,
WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE IN THE HECK IS THE CITY.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING RIGHT HERE, THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
MY KIDS GO TO THE GENERATIONS COMING FOR
YOU CAN CHANGE THAT BASED ON YOUR COMPREHENSION.
WHEN YOU FIRST SEE THE CITY HAVING A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH
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WE'RE INDIVIDUALS OR WHATEVER THAT YOU SAY WILL NOT BUY THE PROPERTY FROM THAT YOU'VE GOT AN OFFER FOR WHY WOULD HE BE BACKING UP? PUT IT SO TENUOUS ABOUT MINE, THE PROPERTY THAT IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING TONIGHT, HE'S GOING TO TOTALLY BACK OUT OF THE DEAL.THEN THEY WON'T HAVE PROFIT ANYMORE.
THEN THE FACT THAT HE COULD WAIT A COUPLE OF MONTHS OR WHATEVER, IT IS A MATTER OF FEBRUARY TO MAKE ALL THESE FOLKS HAPPY.
AND I MEAN, IS HE THAT
AND THAT'S WHAT WE PROPOSED TO DO DOWN HERE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE DONE THE SITE.
WELL, LET ME JUST ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT THE BAD YOU WON'T BE HERE, BUT I MEAN, DO YOU UNDERSTAND, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS? THIS IS GOOD TO BE WANTED AND EVERYBODY PUTS IT ON MY, ON EACH OTHER AND IT IS TO BE JUMPING INTO A HOT SEAT HERE.
WELL, THEY PUT PRESSURE THAT A LOT OF FOLKS, THE LOUNGE, THE STAND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT MAY BE WHAT WE DO TONIGHT.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS LONG AS EVERYONE IS HERE IS GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE.
BUT QUITE FRANKLY, THAT MAY BE WHAT WE DO.
WE'RE JUST COLLECTING IT FROM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PLANNING BOARD MATES, BY DEFINITION, MY NEXT RECOMMENDATION AND A RECOMMENDATION AND STUFF, AND THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO CONSIDER.
AND IF WE LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY MAKE PROBABLY 90% OF THE TIME OR MORE WHERE WE DO WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.
THEN SOMETIMES SOMEBODY BRINGS IN SOME OTHER, UH, WHERE AGAIN, WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW.
AND HE CLAIMS WE DON'T CHANGE THAT LITTLE PIECE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE LAST FEW MONTHS, REAL ESTATE FOR SALE, I HAVE A QUESTION
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TO ASK YOU, IS IT TRUE THAT NEED TO HAVE, IT WOULD BE CLOSING.IT WOULD BE CLOSING A PUBLIC THOROUGHFARE.
SO THEREFORE THE LAW WOULD REQUIRE US TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL TO GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
YOU'RE PLAYING BOAR TO TABLE THIS SO WE CAN STUDY IT BECAUSE OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE 8.4% OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAYING 20 OR SO, SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN.
SOME OTHER INTERESTS TO COME IN OR BONDS COULD CHANGE.
AND THEY SAY, OH, WE'VE CHANGED IT.
SO WHERE DO WE ALL SEEM THAT DO REALLY HAVE THESE SAFETY CONCERNS AS WELL AS THE OTHER? UM,
ONE OF THE CONCERNS OF THE MOUNTAIN MOBILE HOME SALES LOT IS GOING TO CAUSE MORE AFFORDABLE HOMES.
YOU ARE, YOU'RE SAYING IT THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD YOURS.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT.
IF I, THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS IN ALL FAIRNESS TO THE WHOLE WORLD, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING LESS THAN ACCOMMODATING LAST NIGHT ON THIS, AND THEY MAY HAVE THE REASONS OR THE TYPES OF THE SAYING THAT IF THEY DON'T GET A JUDGE IN THEIR FAVOR, DANG ABOUT A PROBLEM, EVERYBODY ELSE IS AT LEAST WILLING TO LISTEN AND LOOK AT BY THE SIDES, ALL SIDES AND SO FORTH.
IF WE WERE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MIND TO GO AHEAD AND REASSIGN THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WHETHER THEY'RE RIGHT OR WRONG,
AND THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE YOU TO BE A BAD NEIGHBOR FOR A LONG TIME HERE, THAT YOU MIGHT BE A GREAT NEIGHBOR.
AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT'S IN THE INTEREST OF YOUR COMPANY AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED, WHAT HE THINKS IS GOING TO TAKE.
AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO LET SOMEBODY TURN IT INTO PASTORS, BUT IT DOES MEAN RIGHT.
ALL THE FACTS
IT'S LIKE I SAID, UM, MR. LAYLA, LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING THAT CAME UP EARLIER TONIGHT.
AND I THINK THE PEOPLE GOT SOME WRONG INFORMATION.
IT WAS ASKED IF THIS IS REZONED AND THE MOBILE HOME LOT EVENTUALLY CLOSES AND THEY MOVE AWAY.
THE PROPERTY WOULD THEN BE OPEN TO USE FOR ANY C3 USAGE.
AND THE ANSWER TO THE PEOPLE WAS, WELL, YES, IT WILL.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION.
THIS HAS NO BEARING ON THE MOTION, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE SIZE OF THE LOT.
AND THIS IS OVER TWO ACRES IN ORDER TO PUT A, IF, IF THIS WAS REZONED C3, IN ORDER TO PUT A MOBILE HOME SALES LOT OR A MODULAR HOME SALES LOT THERE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, ACQUIRED THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD PROCESS.
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THEY CLOSED THAT LOT, MOVED AWAY AND SOLD THAT C3.THEY COULD NOT PUT ON THAT LOT.
ANOTHER C3 USE WITHOUT GOING THROUGH ANOTHER PO PERMITTING PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS WHAT I HAVE JUST BEEN TOLD.
IF THEY DECIDED TO SUBDIVIDED TO GET IT BELOW THE TWO ACRE BREAK POINT THERE, THEY COULD DO THAT, BUT THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET PERMISSION OF THE BOARD TO DO THAT.
SO IT WOULD NOT AUTOMATICALLY BE POSSIBLE FOR THIS COMPANY TO MOVE OUT AND SELL THE PROPERTY TO ANOTHER BUSINESS AND THEN MOVE INTO THE C3 AND AUTOMATICALLY TAKE IT OVER AND USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF TOUCHY, BUT IT, YOU WERE TOLD THAT YES, IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY OTHER USE UNDER C3.
AND THAT IS NOT REALLY CORRECT.
THE OTHER THING AND CORRECT SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID EARLIER, I'VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES, THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE IN TOWN WHERE THERE'S A MODULAR HOME SALES LOT OR MOBILE HOME LOT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
THAT ALSO IS NOT EXACTLY TRUE.
THERE'S ONE WHICH FACES ON HIGHWAY 17 NEAR THE COCA-COLA PLANT, WHICH BACKS UP THE TRENT ROAD ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE BACK OF THAT LOT IS CYPRUS SHORES.
SO THERE IS ANOTHER ONE IT'S THE BACK OF THE LOT THAT FACES THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS REALLY A LOT UGLIER THAN THE FRONT.
SO THAT'S JUST BY WAY OF CLARIFICATION THERE, WE'RE TALKING 750 FEET AND THAT'S WITHIN 750 FEET OF CYPRUS SHORES.
AND I'M NOT, NOT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH THEM.
I'M JUST CLARIFYING TWO POINTS, WHICH WEREN'T MADE CLEAR EARLIER.
MR. BIDEN SAYS, EVERYBODY WAS TRYING TO BE FAIR AND WORK THIS OUT.
CAN'T YOU COOPERATE WITH THE EXTENDED CONTRACT? I HAD ANOTHER KID BECAUSE IT WAS AN EASIER PLACE TO GO.
WE HAVE A STOCK OVER
AND I ASSUME THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THE SAME THING, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE WELCOME IN TOWN TO DO A WHOLE LOT MORE BUSINESS THAN YOU WILL, IF YOU'RE NOT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE EVERYBODY WELL AND WE WANT YOU TO BE WELL.
AND ALL WE'RE SAYING IS IF WE DON'T GET THE TWO MONTHS, WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO CONVINCE ANYBODY, DO THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
IT'S JUST, THAT'S MY, I DON'T SEE
NOW WE'LL GO TO THE NUMBER 13, 13, MR. MAYOR.
I JUST BROUGHT OFF THE TOP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, MAKE A MOTION.
WE DO THE SAME THING SINCE THEY BOTH PERTAIN TO THE SAME TYPE OF PROBLEM.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THURSDAY? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO CALL THE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE SAME SOLUTIONS.
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THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE THAT, ALL RIGHT.
I GOT A MOTION TO ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY MISCELLANEOUS? NO, SIR.
WELL, I'M SORRY, BUT THIS IS THE JOB I'VE GOT AND I'M GOING TO DO IT.
UH, WE'RE FREQUENTLY ASKED WHAT WE DO ON SOME OF THESE, UH, WORKSHOPS, WHICH I THINK THEY'RE TWO, A YEAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I WANTED THE BOARD TO BE AWARE THAT AT THE MEETING IN PHILADELPHIA, BEFORE THE ENERGY ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PLACED, WHEREAS LISTERIA PISTOL SCADA IS A GROWING PROBLEM IN THE WATERS.
PRONUNCIATION IS A GROWING PROBLEM IN THE WATERS OF THE EASTERN UNITED STATES WITH SIGNIFICANT HEALTH, PUBLIC HEALTH AND NATURAL RESOURCE IMPLICATIONS.
AND WHEREAS THE EXTENT OF THE PROBLEM IS YET TO BE DETERMINED BASED ON SOUND SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLES.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES SUPPORTS ADEQUATE FEDERAL ASSISTANCE, BOTH FINANCIAL AND IN HUMAN RESOURCES BE PROVIDED TO AID RESEARCH EFFORTS INTO THE NATURE OF GEOGRAPHIC AND THE NATURE OF, AND GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRIBUTION OF LISTERIA.
IT'S POTENTIALLY SERIOUS IMPACT.
IT'S POTENTIALLY SERIOUS IMPACT ON THE HEALTH OF CITIZENS.
AND ON THE SAFETY OF THE NATION SEAFOOD SUPPLY, THIS RESOLUTION WAS APPROVED BY THE E N R COMMITTEE.
IT WAS APPROVED BY THE RESOLUTIONS COMMITTEE AND APPROVED BY THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP.
IT WILL BE LOBBIED IN CONGRESS, EXCUSE ME, GENTLEMEN.
IT WILL BE LOBBIED IN CONGRESS BY THE LOBBYISTS OF THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
AND THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES REPRESENTS 1500 TOWNS AND CITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, MORE THAN 130 MILLION PEOPLE.
IT WILL BE LOBBIED BY AN ORGANIZATION BIGGER THAN THE TEAMSTERS, THE TEXTILE WORKERS AND THE ELECTRICAL WORKERS ALL COMBINED.
SO HOPEFULLY IT WILL BRING SOME CONGRESSIONAL ATTENTION TO THE NEED FOR MORE RESEARCH INTO THE PROBLEMS CREATED BY FISK TYRIA.
SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL AT THIS MEETING.
AND I CERTAINLY, WELL, NEVERMIND.
I WON'T GO INTO, I'LL DISCUSS IT WITH THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED.
MY DISEASE AND AFTER THE, OKAY, WE ARE, UM, UH, THE CAMEL LAND USE UPDATE, UH, IS OUR PROCESSES BEGAN AND IT'S GOING TO BE A REGIONAL, UH, UH, APPROACH WITH THE TOWNS OF TRENT WOODS RIVER BAND AND THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
UH, WE'RE FORMING THE STEERING COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, AN ELECTED OFFICIAL FROM EACH, UH, MUNICIPALITY TO SERVE ON THAT.
UM, WE DID HAVE, UH, ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST.
THUS ARTISTS PICKED UP A COPY OF THE PREVIOUS LAND USE PLAN IN THE WAY OF ALDERMAN, MADDIE.
UH COULD YOU TELL US WHO THAT IS? I MEAN, BEFORE WE APPROVE IT.
I DIDN'T HEAR THAT, BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
NO PROBLEM IN THAT MUST HAVE APARTMENT THE NEWLY APPOINTED CITY.
IT HAS THREE ITEMS AND ONE OF THEM WE NEED, WE NEED A BRIEF EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT WE CAN DO IT BEFORE WE JUST LET EVERYBODY LEAVE.
BUT NUMBER ONE, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE CONTEMPLATING A CHANGE, OUR HEALTH INSURANCE CARRIER.
UH, WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH OUR EXISTING CARRIER.
AND SO WE ARE TALKING WITH SOME VENDORS.
UH, WE WON'T BE MEETING AGAIN IN DECEMBER, BUT WE PROBABLY WILL BE MAKING A DECISION IN DECEMBER.
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IT'S PROBABLY AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION SINCE IT INVOLVED A LOT OF MONEY.I PROBABLY CALL IT EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY AT FIVE, WHEN YOU, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING WITH THAT SO THAT YOU HAVE NONE BEFORE WE TAKE OF ACTION.
SECONDLY IS, UM, WHEN PROBABLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING THIS MONTH, IT'LL BE JUST A MEETING TO CONSIDER VIA THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THEY WOULD SHIP ON THE 11TH BECAUSE ONCE WE HAD CANCER, LOOK AT THE, AND EVALUATE THEM AND THEY COME UP WITH A REAL LOW, THEN WE'LL PROBABLY BE TALKING WITH THE MAYOR, ASKING HIM TO CALL A QUICK MEETING, MAYBE AT LUNCHTIME, YOU ALWAYS COME IN AND LOOK AT THE VA'S NOT AWARDING THEM OR NOT AWARDING THEM.
AND THEN THAT GETS TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WE NEED.
IF EVERYONE COULD JUST LEAVE, EXCEPT FOR DANNY, UH, WE JUST, UH, WE CAN HANDLE IT.
AND HE DOES A COUPLE OF MINUTES.