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YEAH.

CALL A MEETING TO ORDER AND WE'LL OPEN WITH RAM CURTIS BROWN OF THE HIGHWAY AND HEDGES KURT BROWN COME UP TO, WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING, EXPRESSING THAT APPRECIATION TO YOU ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU THANK YOU FOR PULLING UP THE HOT, THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT CITY.

THANK YOU FOR HOW DID THEY HELP REMEMBER AND THIS IS WHY MESS PEOPLE, JUST THE, HOW THESE PEOPLE.

AND WE THANK YOU THAT TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE NO EXCEPTION.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET GLORY.

OKAY.

JESUS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK REVEREND BROWN.

I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M GETTING READY TO DO OUR TRASH PROGRAM.

HE CAME IMMEDIATELY TO MIND AND I HAD ASKED, UH, SOMEBODY CONTACT AND SEE IF HE WOULD RIDE AROUND TOWN ON HIS, IN HIS CAR WITH LOUD SPEAKERS, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, KINDA GET THEM FIRED UP A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PICKING UP THE TRASH.

AND SOMEBODY SAID, DO YOU RECKON HE'LL DO IT? I SAID, THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT HE'LL DO IT.

THE MAN HAS ALWAYS COME TO THE, TO THE CALL OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

I THANK YOU.

IF YOU'LL CALL ROLL, PLEASE.

MA'AM ALL RIGHT.

THE FIRST THING THAT WE HAVE AT NIGHT, IN FACT, THE ONLY THING OTHER THAN THE CONSENT AGENDA IS A REQUEST AND PETITION OF CITIZENS, WHICH HAVE ONCE A MONTH WHERE FOLKS CAN COME FORWARD AND KIND OF TELL US WHAT'S ON THEIR MIND.

SO TONIGHT KALINA AND I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF ONE OF HER BEDROOMS, UM, IN FRONT OF THE ROAD.

AND, UH, HAVING QUESTIONED ABOUT THE HOME THAT THEY HAD THERE AND WHY THE CITY IS STANDING THERE TO GET THESE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.

NOW, QUESTION NUMBER ONE, HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN WHAT I CALL A HISTORICAL DISTRICT NUBER AND OWN PROPERTY IN IT, BUT NONE OF YOU OWN PROPERTY DOWN THERE.

YOU HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THIS RIFF RAFF ABOUT THEM.

YOU DON'T MEET OUR STANDARDS, YOU'VE GOT TO GO AND YOU SIT AND WRITE AN ORDINANCE COVER AND WHAT THEY WANT.

AND FOR INACCURACY, YOU'RE WALKING A LITTLE HEAVY ON THE BED.

IF YOU READ RIGHT THERE SAID, YOU CAN'T TAKE THE COPY WITH THAT, JUST CONVERSATION.

AND IF YOU PEOPLE REAL LOUD AND READ THE HISTORY OF THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT THREE YEARS BEFORE THE CONSTITUTION WAS RATIFIED.

SO I'M SURE THAT THEY LACKED HISTORICAL VALUE.

AND I THINK ROBIN, THIS IS COMING UP NOW, IN THE MEANTIME, I READ THE COURT HERE.

THE THING THAT GOT OVER HERE, SHE AIN'T GET ATTORNEY CUT THEM.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE ELECTRICITY.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE FAR ALARMS, THINGS LIKE THIS.

I WONDER WHAT THE, LET THEM CUT.

IT WAS 1784.

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YOU SEE HIS HOUSE IN THE BUILDING BEFORE THEY HAD THE LIGHT ELECTRICITY SMOKE ALARM AND EVERYTHING LIKE THIS.

AND I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THE LAW WILL REQUIRE THEM TO HELEN OVER ALARM BECAUSE YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND LOCK THE HOTEL.

AND NOW THAT DON'T HAVE AN OPEN DOOR, AND IF THEY WERE UNDER A BUILDING FOOD PAST SMOKE ALARM, GOING OUT THE BILLING CODES THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE, THEN YOU'D INSPECT IT.

AND ANOTHER THING WAS WRONG.

THIS HOUSE HAS FOUR ELECTRICAL METERS ON IT AND YOUR CITY PUT ALL THEIR, OKAY.

IF THE CITY FOR THE METER ON IT, IT MUST HAVE MET AN ELECTRICAL INSPECTION OR IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ELECTRICAL WARNING.

IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WE KNOW THAT IT GETS OLD.

AND I DARE SAY, IF YOU WENT AROUND AND PULLED DOWN THEIR HOUSE, DIDN'T HAVE A SMOKE ALARM.

DIDN'T MEET THE BILL.

I DIDN'T MEET THE BUILDING CODE, BE ABOUT 15 PEOPLE THERE, THE NEW ROOM.

SO MY QUESTION IS WHY ISN'T EVERYBODY, YOU'VE GOT TO GET ON THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE DOWN IN THERE STEADY TRYING TO PULL THEM OUT OF HER HOUSE.

THE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY TOLD YOU, THEY'RE DOING ALL.

THEY CAN TO REPAIR IT, TO BUILD IT UP.

THE MANNER OF THE BEDROOM.

YOU'RE DISABLED.

YOU HAVE NO INCOME TO MOUTH OR ANYTHING, BUT I, I GOT A FEELING OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY WENT OUT.

IF SOMEBODY ELSE GOT IT BASED ON SIZE GROUP AND BUILD IT BACK UP IN THE CATEGORY MARKET A COUPLE OF YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, OR A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND I BET YOU, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE GOT DOWN HERE, THIS HISTORICAL COMMITTEE THEN WOULD BE PLEASED.

WHEN I SAY THEY'RE DOWN AT THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF IT.

NOW THAT'S COMING OUT OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

WHY DON'T WE GET BACK THERE? PEOPLE PUT THE HOUSE BACK TOGETHER, YOU BUILD A STREET AND KIND OF DOWN THE HOUSE.

WHY DON'T YOU BUILD THE HOUSE AND PUT YOUR FEET OUT IN FRONT OF YOU, TAKE THE MAN OUT OF HIS HOUSE.

WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT YOU UP THERE AND GET THIS HOUSE? DID YOU EVER THINK OF THAT? OR YOU CAN COME UP WITH ANY ANSWER.

YOU'RE NOT PLANNING ON FIVE.

WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THE PEOPLE THERE.

ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GONE.

NOW, NONE OF YOU LIVE DOWN HERE, NOT EVER GOT PUT UP THERE.

SO I'M ASSUMING YOU DON'T CARE, BUT THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO BRING THIS OUT.

YOU KNOW, I'LL LET YOU BE UP FOR ELECTRIC.

THIS PARKED IT OFF.

GOOD.

IF STILL KICK IT OFF.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH OUT THERE AS WE CAN, BUT YOU GO THROUGH THE COURT.

YOU'D HAVE NO SMOKE ALARM.

IF YOU TELL THEM YOU DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE ELECTRICITY, UH, MR. UH, MANAGER, UH, HISTORICAL CONVENIENT EVER CALL YOU ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENED.

I'VE TALKED TO NO ONE FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE.

DIDN'T YOU , UH, INSPECTOR ON HIM TO TELL HIM TO GO CHECK OUT PEOPLE LIVING RIGHT OR NOT.

I CAN GET, IF YOU DID WHAT HE DOING DOWN THERE, HE'S DOING HIS JOB.

SOMEBODY STANDING DOING HIS JOB.

HE DIDN'T DO ANY JOB JOB IN CERTAIN SPOTS.

SO I'VE BEEN KNOWN IN THE SHADE FOR A LONG TIME SOMETIMES TO GET A SPOT LIKE A BAD PENNY.

AND WE WANT TO KNOW, WE WANT TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHATEVER IT IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE DOWN HERE.

IT'S GOT OUT IN THIS DISTRICT THAT EVERY TIME THAT THEY START TO GETTING OLD AND CHEVY AND THINGS, LIKE IF YOU GO TO PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE NOT AROUND OUT AND PLAYING LIKE THIS, UH, THAT YOU'VE THROWN PEOPLE OUT BECAUSE THE GUY WHO HAD THE MONEY TO FINISH OR DIDN'T WANT TO FINISH IT.

BUT, UH, I GET BACK WITH 10 HERE.

A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I SAW $500,000, BUT THE FIELD TO GET PEOPLE TO QUIT SMOKING, THEY DIDN'T GET IT.

CAN YOU SAY, YOU SAID, YOU SAID WE GAVE, OKAY.

SOMEBODY PUT SOME BAD NEWS ABOUT YOU, PEOPLE IN THE NEWSPAPER, THE PROBLEM IT WAS IN THERE, THEN YOU JUST SAY, WE GAVE IT TO HER.

ALL OF THESE, ALL OF THESE, UH, LOAD GRANT.

WHY DON'T YOU GO GET THE 51 TO FIFTH GRAPH?

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I KNOW IF IT'S DARK THE COMMITTEE, IF THEY FIND SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN THERE, THEY'LL FIND HIM ON THE 15TH.

DON'T YOU BELIEVE THAT? NO, YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN MR. MR. KURT, MR. CURT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ADMIRABLE THAT YOU'RE DOWN HERE TRYING TO HELP ONE OF YOUR FELLOW VETERANS.

BUT, UH, THE ISSUE THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING THIS BOARD WITH TONIGHT TONIGHT IS IN LITIGATION.

A JUDGE IS GETTING READY TO RULE ON A, AN ISSUE AS VITALLY IMPORTANT.

UH, THIS BOARD OF ALDERMAN HAS NO POWER TO CIRCUMVENT, ANY TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT OF THE BUILDING CODE OR THE MINIMUM BUILDING CODE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY JURISDICTION AT ALL.

IT'S JUST LIKE IF A HIGHWAY PATROLMAN WERE TO GIVE A PERSON A TICKET, TRYING IT TO ENFORCE THE LAW, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY SCOTT, THOMAS BELL COULD DO, OR ANYBODY IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, NONE OF THEM COULD CIRCUMVENT THAT PROCESS.

SO, UH, YOUR, YOUR BEING HERE TONIGHT IS IN VAIN.

BECAUSE AS A GOVERNING BOARD, WE HAVE NO POWER TO INTERVENE IN THAT PROCESS.

AND THAT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE.

YOU LOST ME HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF YARD AND THE GUY, YOU SAID YOU HAD THE POWER WHAT'S UP, MAN, SHUT UP.

MICHAEL SCOTT.

THEY WITH THE CITY OF TURNER, HE'S A CITY ATTORNEY, BUT HE WAS JUST REPRESENTING THE CITY AND A LAWSUIT CONCERNING THIS MATTER.

BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS THAT AS ALL DEMON, AS MIRROR, WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO INTERVENE.

IN THIS MATTER, SIR, YOU'VE MADE THE ROOM IT'S IT'S BEYOND IT'S IT IT'S IN AN ENFORCEMENT STAGE.

WE WERE, WE ARE, WHAT'S CALLED LEGISLATORS.

IF YOU WANT TO, UH, WANT ME TO REALLY GO INTO DETAILS, JUST LIKE MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THEY MAKE LAWS, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER ENTITY THAT ENFORCES THEM, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE THEM MAKE THE LAWS AND ENFORCE THEM TO IS WHAT'S CALLED.

IT'S A PART OF THE SEPARATION OF POWERS.

YES, WE DO SET A ORDINANCE AND YOU GET IT OVER HERE AND YOU'VE TAKEN IT TO COURT AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET JUDGED FOR, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE IRRATIONAL FINE, I'M JUST TRYING TO LET YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO TONIGHT.

NOTHING YOU CAN DO TONIGHT, YOU GET WRONG.

WHEN YOU STARTED, YOU CAN START A THING, THE BORDER AUTUMN, IT DIDN'T START A THING.

THE BUILDING INSPECTOR INITIATED THIS ACTION, WHICH IS WITHIN HIS POWER.

I CAN'T DO IT.

THE MIRROR CAN'T DO IT.

THE CITY MAGIC CAN'T DO IT.

BUT THE BUILDING INSPECTOR IS EMPOWERED TO BY STATUTE.

WHY DON'T YOU TAKE YOUR BUILDING INSPECTOR AND PUT HIM ON THE STREET, THEN YOU WON'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM.

YOU WHAT I'M SAYING THING, LIKE IF YOU MADE THE ROOM, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, YOU PEOPLE WERE DOWN HERE.

DID YOU MAKE THE HORRIBLE OKAY.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT MR. KAHN, HOW ABOUT THE ATTORNEY IS ASKED TO EXPLAIN A FEW THINGS.

IT MIGHT CLEAR UP THERE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S BEING DONE, MAYBE SO, MAYBE YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

WELL, HE HAD A THANK YOU, MR. MERRITT, AND I, AND I WANT TO LIMIT MY COMMENTS BECAUSE WE WERE IN COURT YESTERDAY ON THIS MATTER, AND STILL HAVE NOT HAD A DECISION BACK FROM THE JUDGE.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT THURSDAY OR FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK, BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU'VE SAID, UM, MAYBE AN ERROR, UH, YOU KEEP MENTIONING, TEARING THE HOUSE DOWN AND AT NO TIME IN THESE PROCEEDINGS, HAS ANYONE RAISED THE ISSUE OF TEARING THE HOUSE DOWN? UM, THE CITY OF THE CAME INVOLVED WITH THE CARLSON'S ENLIGHTENED MAY OF THIS YEAR AND HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CARLSONS, UM, TO, TO RESOLVE SOME ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO THE SAFETY OF THEIR HOUSE.

AND WE ARE NOW DOWN TO SOME VERY MINOR ISSUES REGARDING WHO CAN BE IN THE HOUSE WHILE CERTAIN REPAIRS ARE BEING MADE.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S REALLY THE NARROW ISSUE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IN COURT.

UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT NARROW ISSUE, UM, AT LEAST FROM THE CITY'S POINT OF VIEW, UM, THE CARLSTON'S HAVE BEEN FINE.

CITIZENS HAVE BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE.

UM, THEIR ATTORNEY HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP GOING FORWARD.

BUT WITH RESPECT TO THIS LITTLE NARROW ISSUE OF, OF OCCUPANCY THE HOUSE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, WHILE REPAIRS ARE BEING MADE, THAT REALLY IS OUT OF EVERYONE'S HANDS UNTIL A JUDGE MAKES HIS DECISION.

WHEN THE HAMMER, BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR SAYS THAT THE PLACE IS UNSAFE AND HE'S THE ONE TO SUPPOSE TO HAVE THE EXPERTISE IN THE MATTER TO ENFORCE THE LAW AND THE STATUTES

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AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.

IF WE HAD THE POWER TO COME ALONG AND OVERRULING WITHOUT THE EXPERTISE AND SAY, FINE, GO BACK IN.

AND EVEN THOUGH THIS MAN IS DECLARED UNSAFE, WE'RE NOT BEING FAIR TO THESE PEOPLE.

AND SO THAT'S DUDE, THAT'S THE DILEMMA.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LAWYER IT CITY ATTORNEY IS SAYING IS, LET ME THINK PROCEED THROUGH THIS MACHINERY THAT IT'S IN.

AND YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S TRYING TO PUT THE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.

SO TEAR UP THEIR HOUSE.

YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT A SAFE PLACE TO INHABIT.

AND THAT'S WHY THE CITY INSPECTORS JOB IS.

SO I THINK THEY'RE AFTER THE SAME THING, IF YOU ARE, THEN WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

THE SAME THING IF YOU ARE, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LET THEM DO IT THEIR WAY.

WELL, WE DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR WAY IS, BUT WHAT I'M TELLING YOU, HE IS THE INSPECTOR IS THE ONE WHO HAS TO, TO READ AND INTERPRET THE LAW.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO BRING THE THING UP TO THAT CODE.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT IN, WE'RE NOT AS A BOARD IN THE BUSINESS, YOU GOT AN INSPECTOR GOING DOWN THROUGH DEPUTY FIELD PICKER.

NOW, TURN THEM DOWN THROUGH THERE AND MAYBE BE WE'LL HAVE NO WEAKENED TIRE DOWN THAT WAY.

UBER.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO MEET HERE STANDARD.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, AND I DON'T BLAME YOU, BUT YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED OUR SHOW HERE ON CHANNEL 10 EVERY NIGHT, OR YOU'D BE WELL AWARE THAT PLENTY OF THEM TORN DOWN.

I CAN TELL YOU, YEAH, I'M IN, I'M DOING IT FOR, AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTION COMING AND YOU KNOW ME, I LIKE TO GET HIT ON THE LEGEND.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD.

IF WE'RE NOT CONCERNED, I'LL TAKE THE SLICED BREAD AND ROCK THIS OUT JUST TO LET THE PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THEIR BOAT WALKING REMOTING FOR.

OKAY, WELL, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE IN FOR AND ALL OF THIS, BUT I THINK THEY WILL.

WE'LL LET THE THING GO.

ANYBODY GOT ANY IDEA OF THESE PEOPLE DOWN HERE? I'M SURE THEY APPRECIATE ANY HELP.

THEY CAN GET HIS HOUSE BACK UP AND GET IT CLICK.

AND, UH, LET'S SAY THE PEOPLE DON'T LIVE IN TOWN.

THEY'RE NO LONGER GOING THROUGH.

LET ME, LET ME MAKE A SUGGESTION.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU COULD DO, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

AND I THINK IT'D BE ADMIRABLE IS IF THEY DO NEED HELP, MONETARY HELP OR PHYSICAL HELP OR WHATEVER, THEN YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT KNOWN.

AND AS AN APPEAL TO THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE IN TOWN THAT WILL BE GLAD TO HELP AND EVERYTHING LIKE THIS.

AND IF YOU GOT AND LEAVE HIM ALONE, HE MIGHT EVEN GET YOU KNOW, THEY BUILD IT.

SO IT'S BEEN COME OUT LIKE, UH, YOU GOT TO FACE AND THAT SMILE.

AND I LIKE TO SEE THAT PEOPLE GET TREATED BETTER, BUT, UH, AND WE, WE, UH, WE GOT ANY HELP OUT HERE ON THIS OLD TV LANDING.

WE'RE TALKING ACROSS FROM NEWSPAPER NIGHT, BRING IT ON.

AND THEN THE BOY, THE LONGER THEY LIVE IN THE CITY OF NEW NATURE WE'LL NEED IT.

SO THAT DON'T LIE.

THEY, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

TWO THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, IN THE CASE OF PEOPLE WHO NEED FIRE DETECTORS, THAT KEEPS COMING UP.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SITUATION IS BECAUSE AS I SAID, IT'S A COURT CASE AND WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THOSE.

THE NEW-BORN FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL INSTALL A FIRE DETECTOR FOR ANYONE IN THE CITY WHO NEEDS IT FREE OF CHARGE.

THAT'S THAT PERIOD.

THAT'S THE END OF THAT STATEMENT.

AND NUMBER TWO, IT'S A MIND WIDE MISCONCEPTION ON THE PART OF THE PUBLIC THAT, UH, OUR BUILDING CODES ARE MUCH STRONGER THAN THEY ARE.

IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE.

THEY ARE UNAWARE THAT THERE ARE NO CITY BUILDING CODES AS SUCH ALL BUILDING CODES ARE STATE BUILDING CODES, WHICH THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCEMENT, BUT WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FACTS, CITY BUILDING CODES.

THEY ARE STATE BUILDING CODES IN THEIR UNIFORM, ACROSS THE STATE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS OF WHICH THERE ARE MANY OF THE STATE.

AND IT OPERATES UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE.

AND WE HAVE TO GO BY LAW.

WE HAVE TO LIVE BY THOSE STATE BUILDING CODES.

AND IF A DWELLING IS UNSAFE, ACCORDING TO STATE BUILDING CODES, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SEE TO IT THAT THEY HAVE THE HOUSE THAT COMES UP TO STANDARD.

THEY'RE NOT CITY CODES.

UH, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE NOT LISTENED TO WHAT THE GUY WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THE SMOKE ALARM.

I DON'T THINK YOU'VE GOT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE'LL PUT THEM IN THERE FREE OF CHARGE.

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NO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON THE WAY AND PUTS THE MAN FREE, NO CHARGE THERE.

THEY DON'T CHARGE FOR FIRE ALARM AND THEY DON'T CHARGE.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GENDER, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.

AND WON'T OUT THEIR NECK AND TELLING ME, YOU GOT THE PAPER DOWN HERE, 2 21 FRONT STREET HELP.

AND, UH, THAT YOU GOT, IF NOT THROW THEM OUT AND YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM BACK TO YOUR INTERVIEW STRAIGHT.

AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MORE THAN ELECTRIC.

ANYTHING I KNOW OF? WELL, WE MIGHT DO IT JUST TO HELP THE PEOPLE.

NOT JUST, WELL, WE, IT YOU'RE WELL.

OKAY.

IS ANYBODY ELSE HERE, UH, TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THE REQUEST AND PETITIONS OF CITIZENS? YES, MA'AM, THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN DO FROM MEMORY IS MY AGE AND, UH, AMIEL, YOUR 16 WEEKS PERIOD.

I'M HERE IN REGARD TO THE TREE BETWEEN THE SIDEWALL AND KING STREET.

AND NOW I HAVE A TONE.

ALL OF THESE THINGS MAKE ME AT FIRST.

I DID NOT KNOW THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO GO TO HIM.

I WAS TOLD TO GET A PETITION FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT'S BEEN, I THINK THAT TOLD ME, MAKE HER HOME, THAT SHE COULD TALK TO AND THAT THEY HAD REVIEWED SOMEBODY ELSE.

OH, AND I GAVE, I HAVE A PETITION AND FEAR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MS. JULY OF 17 AND A COPY OF THAT, WHICH RETURNED TO ME STATING STAY AND REVIEWED THE TREE.

THE TREE SHOULD NOT BE REMOVED PERFECT COUNTY, UH, UH, PART OF THE, UH, APPEARANCE IT MADE TODAY TO A MEETING TODAY.

AND HE SEEMS THAT WHAT HAPPENS THAT THEY SAID THEIR RULE WAS HIS BEDROOM, NO AUTHORITY TO MAKE DECISIONS ON A TREE.

AND IT'S TRUE, MR. GLASS, HOW, UH, ROBERT, HE DIDN'T THINK HE DIDN'T KNOW I WAS THERE.

THIS WAS THE FACTORY COMMITTEE.

I DON'T THINK I'M SUPPOSED TO PURPOSE, BUT IN CEREMONY, VERY ENCOURAGED IN SANFORD.

SO HE AGREED WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

IF THE TREE SHOULD STAY THERE.

OKAY.

UM, THIS IS HARTFORD.

LET ME INTERRUPT JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE.

IF YOU COULD, COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHY YOU WANT TO CUT DOWN? BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING THE PROCESS.

YOU'VE GONE THROUGH TO GET IT CUT DOWN, BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD WHY YOU WANT IT.

CUT THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY, RIGHT? YOUR VACANT LOT.

SO IT'S OWN CITY RIGHT AWAY IN FRONT OF THE VACANT LOT THAT YOU WANT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE NOW.

WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHY YOU, WHY YOU WANT IT TORN DOWN WHEN YOU DO A GOOD JOB OF YES, IT IS.

IS IT A HARDSHIP? I MADE SEVEN YEARS OLD.

AND WHEN I GO OUT THERE AND I BECAME IT THREE TIMES A WEEK AND GET, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR, MAYOR BAGS TO GET THEIR SCHOOLS.

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THAT'S ONE THING, THE NEXT THING IS IT IS THEY NEED, AND THEY GO DOWN WHERE THE GRANDKIDS AND, UH, UH, ANOTHER THING, THIS GENTLEMAN TURN HIS ANGER OVER ON A POT FROM A MAGNET IT'S DANGEROUS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ TO YOU JUST TWO THINGS, CAUGHT HIM IN THE HAT.

NOW BRING ME A BOARD FOR ME.

THEY SAID, QUOTING, THE WRIT OF YOU MADE THE TREE IS CAUSING DISRUPTION.

EXISTING UTILITY ARE CAUSING OUR PASSAGE PROBLEMS UPON THE WRITING.

NOW, MR. , UH, I ALWAYS GET THIS BROTHER AND HE GAVE DIFFERENT REASONS WHY A TREE COULD BE REMOVED.

AND ONE OF THEM WAS WHAT I CALL THE GRANGE IS A JEOPARDY OF THE HAT.

IT REALLY IS A HAT.

AND YOU WILL REGRET THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE.

I WAS ON THAT AT ONE TIME AND WE WENT AROUND AND COMPLIMENT PEOPLE ON THEIR YARD.

AND EVERY DAY WE DIDN'T GO AROUND WHAT THEY COULD DO AND WHAT THEY COULD BE HERE TODAY, THAT TREES, THESE TREE ON THAT IT IS IN FRONT OF THAT TREE.

YOU COULDN'T SEE THE OTHER, YOU FOUND THE BACK VIEW IS TRUE.

IT'S A HEALTHY TREE.

OKAY.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND YOUR REASONING AND I JUST WANTED THAT AS A BASIS.

WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

YOU JUST DON'T LIKE THAT TREE.

OKAY.

WHAT ARE THE HEARTS, SORRY FOR NOT CALLING YOU BACK.

I JUST SAW YOUR MESSAGE THIS EVENING.

I DON'T NEVER LIVE TO SEE THAT SHE .

I THINK THAT ABOUT COVERS IT.

IF YOU WROTE IN MY PETITION TO THE STRONG SEWER AND CONTRIBUTED TO STREET FLOODING DURING NOT HEARD AND JEREMY , I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT.

UM, AND I REALLY MEAN THIS AND I'VE GOT TO SAY IT, BUT THE MOST AMAZING THING YOU'VE SAID TONIGHT IS THAT YOU'RE 87 YEARS OLD.

I WOULD NEVER HAVE GUESSED THAT.

AND I'VE SEEN YOU AROUND YOU WHEN FOR QUITE A WHILE, WHEN I SHOOT HER, THAT WAS HER.

I WOULD NEVER, YOU LOOK, YOU LOOK QUITE A BIT YOUNGER THAN THAT.

I JUST THOUGHT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT.

AND IT'S AMAZING.

WE WERE AFRAID SOMEBODY MIGHT HEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

THIS IS HARKER.

IF WE, IF WE TURN THE VOLUME UP ANYMORE ON THESE MICROPHONES, THEY WILL FEED BACK.

THIS IS AS LOUD AS THE SYSTEM CAN GO WITHOUT IT FEEDING BACK.

WELL, SEE, MY WIFE'S BEEN TELLING ME NOW FOR 40 YEARS THAT I TALKED TOO LOUD.

SO SHE'S JUST ABOUT GOT ME TRAINED.

SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY, SORRY.

OH LORD.

HELP US.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE HERE TONIGHT ON THE, WELL, SHE MOVES TO OH SATURDAY.

WELL, WE ONLY HAVE TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON IT.

CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE INS AND OUTS OF THE DETAILS OF WHY SOMEONE WANT TO KEEP IT AND SOUND.

THAT'S THERE FOR EQUIPMENT TO US ON THAT, MAN.

THAT'D BE THE BEST MAN.

YEP.

I THINK REALLY WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE? THIS NEEDS TO BE REFERRED TO THE APPEARANCE COMMISSION AND LET THEM RULE ON IT ONCE IT REALLY COME ON.

YEAH, YOU SAID IT.

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AND, AND I, I WAS BACK ON COURSE ON THE ISSUE OF LEEDS BIOLUMINESCENCE.

I HAVE YOUR AUTHORITY AS DIRECTOR IF AND MOVING UP TO THREE, IT DOES NOT AND YOU DEAL WITH THEM ALL YEAR.

I SPOKE TO MS. MS. HARPER PETITION THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION AS REMOVAL OF THE TREE, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE RECOMMENDATION IS GOOD FOR THE APPEARANCE.

AND GRANTED, AS THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN ON YOUR PARENT'S CONDITION, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY WILLY NILLY DO OUT REVENUE.

AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, THEY HAVE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ON USAGE, TREES, ROLLING UP AND STANDING OFF TO THE FALL OR DISADVANTAGE BE ALIVE.

AND THEY, THEY ADD THE CHAIRMAN HAS PROVIDED YOU WITH A LETTER STATING, TAKE IT DOWN.

THEY PROVIDE ANOTHER THREE.

AS SOON AS THAT IS TOTALLY MUCH, HE HASN'T GONE BEFORE THEM YET.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

HOW OLD IS THAT TREE? HELLO? BUT AT THE SAME TIME, AND TIM SAYS ALL THAT THING APRIL UNTIL THE REST OF THE, BUT SUPPOSE THE TREE WASN'T THERE, WOULD IT BE ONE OF THESE THINGS? IT WOULD BE A OBVIOUS BY ITS ABSENCE.

I MEAN, IF YOU'RE USED TO SEEING IT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS GONE, BUT IF YOU WEREN'T USED TO SEEING IT AND IT WENT THROUGH THERE, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE A HOLE, A HOLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WOULD VERY NICE SPECIMEN, MR. METROS, I'D RATHER HAVE THE PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT SEND THE YARD CREW BY AND RAKE UP THOSE LEAVES.

AND TO CUT THAT TREE DOWN, NOTICED QUITE A BIT OF TIME ALL IN THE FALL.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH WELL, I THINK AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS, IT COULD BE .

I HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO CALLED ME AND SAID, SHE EVEN SAID THAT SHE WAS IN THERE REGULARLY AND I RECOMMEND IT.

I DON'T THINK SO ON THE LINE AND CALL UP AND VOLUNTEER.

HER KIDS RAKE UP THE LEAVES FOR YOU.

MAYBE OUR KIDS SIGNED A POTENTIAL.

I DIDN'T WANT TO WRITE YEAH, WELL, AT LEAST WE'VE SEEN JUDGE WALKING A DEAD ASS ON TV.

HE'LL SAY I'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AND COME BACK.

THIS IS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES.

I THINK WE NEED TO THE POT, WAIT, WAIT.

WE KNOW YOUR POSSESSION ON THE TREE.

AND UH, WE'RE AWARE OF IT NOW.

AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO EXCEPT MAYBE CONSIDER IT

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BUT BEFORE YOU DO THAT, PLEASE HAVE THE LADY WITH THE TWO KIDS, GIVE THEM AS HARD HER CAR.

AND IF THEY WILL BREAK UP THE LEAVES, IT MAY, YOU KNOW, DIFFUSE IT A LITTLE BIT.

I CAN RECOMMEND YOUR BOY SCOUT TROOP GO BY ONCE A MONTH, CLEAN THAT A LOT UP TO GET THE LEAVES OUT OF THERE.

BUT I REALLY WOULD LOVE, I WOULD REALLY HATE TO LOSE A TREE LIKE THAT.

IF WE ANY WAY AROUND, I'VE GOT A SOLUTION.

I AM FREEZING MY YARD.

I WISH ONE WOULD BE TRYING TO MAX IT YARD.

I LIKE THAT IS DISTILLATION WELL, I GUESS THAT'S THEY COME BACK TO WHO PLANTED IT TO BEGIN WITH THAT? WELL, SAY THAT, THAT IS ONE POINT SHE'S THE WAY THE ONE YES.

MA'AM MS. BENNETT, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? BUT IF YOU COME UP TO THE SPEAKER, IF YOU WOULD, YES YOU DO.

BUT THEN THERE ARE OTHERS.

THAT'LL SEE ME IN THE GROCERY STORE AND SAY, WHY DON'T YOU GET THEM TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME.

THE REASON WE DID NOT TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS.

WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT SHE REQUESTED THE PERMIT, WE DIDN'T FEEL WE HAD THE AUTHORITY BECAUSE WE'RE JUST A BOSS TO ME.

AND IF SHE DID CALL FOR THOSE CHANNELS, WE SAW THE NEED TO GET INVOLVED WITH I'M WITH JULIUS.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY STAFF AND LET THEM COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S FINE.

THERE MAY BE A COMPROMISE.

THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS REQUESTING PETITIONS OF CITIZENS? NOBODY ELSE HERE.

I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, MS. BENNETT FOR THE WONDERFUL JOB SHE'S DOING AND, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY IS KEPT CLEAN AND I SAW YOU THE OTHER DAY OUT, UH, DOING YOUR JOB.

AND, UH, I WAS GLAD THAT I DIDN'T HAVE ANY TRASH.

YEAH.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I SAW A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I DON'T TRENT ROAD AND THAT WAS THE DRIVER LIKE THIS OTHER ONE RUN INTO SUMMER.

SHE'S OUT THERE PICKING UP BY MYSELF AND I COULDN'T STOP PICK IT ON THE PAVEMENT.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER REQUESTS AND PETITIONS OF CITIZENS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY.

I'LL MOVE WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEMS SEVEN FOR DISCUSSION AGENDA, SLIP SHEET FOR NUMBER, UH, SLIP SHEET.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

LAST ITEM SEVEN.

DO I HEAR A SECOND HERE? A SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

MA'AM ON EVERYTHING EXCEPT SEVEN.

YES, YES, YES, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW, MR. MADIGAN, SPEAK ON HIM.

I'M SEVEN.

THE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

UH, THIS ITEM IS A RESOLUTION BY THE CITY OF NEWBORN, NORTH CAROLINA, REGARDING THE SUPPORT OF THE LOCAL MILITARY INSTALLATIONS IN ANY BASE REALIGNMENT AND CLOSURE REVIEW, AS DIRECTED BY THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES, JUST MIRROR.

I'M 150% IN FAVOR OF TRYING TO PROTECT THE NAVAL AVIATION DEPOT

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AT CHERRY POINT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THIS REQUEST TO INCLUDE ALL THE CHERRY POINT MARINE CORPS AIR STATION THERE, WHICH INCLUDES NEDA IS A VERY VALUABLE ASSET TO THE ECONOMY OF EASTERN CAROLINA.

UH, I BELIEVE WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE AND ALSO PEOPLE WHO WORK ON STATION.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO, HOWEVER WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE MAY BE ABLE TO SEND THIS IN AS IT IS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, IN ADDITION, SEND A LETTER FROM YOU TO SPECIFICALLY TO NOT ONLY THE GOVERNOR, BUT ALL OF OUR US SENATORS AND TO THE, UH, MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.

UH, I KNOW, UH, SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE IN FAVOR OF, UH, DOING ALL WE CAN TO SAY THESE BASES IN EASTERN CAROLINA, NOT ONLY, UH, CHERRY POINT, BUT CAMP WAS IN THE NEW RIVER AND FORT BRAGG AND, UH, SEYMOUR JOHNSON AIR FORCE BASE.

BUT I THINK BECAUSE THIS WAS IN OUR AREA, WE OUGHT TO DO SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY TO, UH, INCLUDE IN THE ENTIRE, UH, MARINE CORPS AIR STATION.

CHERRY POINT.

IS THAT A FORM OF A MOTION? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

NO PROBLEM.

I BELIEVE THAT.

AND SENDS A LETTER SIGNED BY YOU TO USE IT OR CONGRESSMAN AND TO INCLUDE AS A RESOLUTION.

SO WHAT JAY'S DONE IS MADE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THE ONE AS WRITTEN AND WE ALSO, UH, PUT TOGETHER A SECOND ONE MENTIONING THE BASE ITSELF.

AND ALL OF THESE TO NORTH CAROLINA BASE IS NOT JUST A NIGHT OUT.

SO HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

AND I GUESS A ROLL CALL.

I MEAN, JUST A VOICE IT ON THAT.

WE NEED A LOGO.

HE GOT THE RESOLUTION GONG ROLL ON THAT ONE THEN PLEASE.

YES, YES, YES, YES.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THE SUGGESTION.

OKAY.

NEXT THING WE HAVE AS APPOINTMENTS LOOK AROUND.

I DON'T HAVE ANY, OKAY.

I'VE GOT ONE AND THAT'S TO REAPPOINT SUSAN MOFFITT BACK TO THE NEWBURN PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

SO IF EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT, SAY, AYE.

UH, NOBODY OPPOSED.

SO THERE SHE IS.

ALL RIGHT, MR. BALLOT FOR MUCH BETTER.

YEAH.

MRS. JUDAS LIKE REAPPOINT HER TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

NO.

OKAY.

YEAH.

BABIES.

I LIKE TO NOMINATE FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

MR. GEORGE ROYAL HERE.

A SECOND FACTOR ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

NOTHING.

MAY I LET THEM MAKE AN APPOINTMENT? A NOMINATION TO A POINT CAROLYN FRAZIER TO THE APPEARANCE COMMISSION.

SECOND, SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.

SO YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, MR. MAYOR, LET ME RESCIND MY PREVIOUS, UH, IT ESCAPED MY NOTICE THAT MRS. GEORGINE HANNON'S TERM HAD EXPIRED ON THE, UH, BOARD, UH, OR THE PLANNING BOARD PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

AND SHE HAS BEEN AN EXCELLENT REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CITY ON THAT BOARD WITH A 99% ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETINGS AND TAKES AN ACTIVE PART.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE GEORGINE HAMMOND FOR ANOTHER TERM ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING.

OKAY.

BACK UP.

UH, ALL RIGHT.

MISCELLANEOUS MATH IS LATE.

UM, ONE THING, UM, WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN BETTER EXPLAIN WHAT MIKE WOULD BE TO ASK YOU TO DO AS HE TALK DEFINITELY WHAT I WAS WALKING UP AND DRIVING PATTERNS AND DIFFERENT OCCUPATION CHURCHES AND HAS SOME OF SELLING TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT .

IF WE WOULD ALSO

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COMPLICIT SAID CDC, AND PROBABLY THE OTHER YOU CAN GO AND GET AND BE A GOOD IDEA WHO WOULD BE, WELL, WHAT DEPARTMENT WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF MY GAME IS PROBABLY MOST OF THESE PROJECTS.

I WAS JUST THINKING THAT THE OUTCOMES OF, AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS WOULD, WOULD APPRECIATE THAT IDEA AND THE CELEBRATION AND MIKE GAVE WAY OR SOMEONE FROM HIS STAFF WORK WITH HIM AND OTHERS OF US TO PULL TOGETHER A CERTAIN CELEBRATION.

LIKE SOMETIMES ESPECIALLY SOMETIMES WHEN THINGS HAPPEN, I HEARD A GENTLEMAN MAKE REFERENCE TO WPL SEVERAL TIMES THEY'LL KICK THEM OUT.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I'M AFRAID THAT TELLS YOU THAT I'M SAYING, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE WAS SAYING THAT, BUT, UM, WE HAVE COME QUITE A WAY IN THE ISSUE OF HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AND REBUILDING THE COMMUNITIES IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED.

I THINK THE FACT THAT IT WAS HOUSING AND DUFFY REALLY WENT THROUGH A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES BECAUSE WE WERE MAKING CHANGES.

AND NOW IF YOU RIDE THROUGH THERE AND YOU SEE THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY FEELS GOOD, IT FEELS A LOT SAFER OVER ON, UH, GREEN POP TERRY'S FROM SYDNEY.

HOW WAS IT THAT CATERPILLAR, LOTS OF WRITING INTO A BUTTERFLY.

OH, WE'RE ON A, WHAT BELLAMY DRIVE.

I MEAN, YOU JUST DRIVE THROUGH THERE AND KNOW WHAT IT WAS AND KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY AND ORGANIZATIONS DID AS THEY CAME TOGETHER AND MADE THAT DIFFERENCE.

I MEAN, THAT SPEAKS VERY WELL FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURGH AND THE COLLABORATION THAT WE HAD WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER AGENCIES FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY.

SO I THINK THAT IT IS JUST SO SERIOUS NOWADAYS, THAT WE GET OFF OF THIS CRAZY STUFF.

A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY PROVIDED THAT PROBLEM.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO THEY NEED TO, AND THEY KNOW THAT EVEN WHEN THEY KNOW THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED THESE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS, BUT IT HAS, IT HAS BEEN GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE.

AND I GET PEOPLE COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME.

WE GET THOSE CHI, BUT THEY WOULD SAY THAT THEY'LL SAY THINGS LIKE, OKAY, YOU GUYS JUST BUILT THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR THIS ONE AND THAT ONE.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY, OR YOU MIGHT SAY SOME CRAZY, LIKE, LIKE WE LIKE THE OUTBACK BETTER CITIZENS OR LOUVER.

SO THE CRAZY PEOPLE ARE SAFE IN, BUT THAT REALLY KNOWING, YOU KNOW, I ASKED THE DOCTOR WHAT KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

SOME PEOPLE PROBABLY CHOOSE NOT TO KNOW THAT, BUT I THINK THAT THE IDEA THAT MR. SAMPSON HAS A FALL CELEBRATION OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, ESPECIALLY ON HABITAT, YOU SEE THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES WHO HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THOSE HOMES.

I THINK I LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE ASK A NAT OR A MIKE OR SOMEONE FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO HELP US DO THE CELEBRATION HABITAT.

WE'VE GOT A FAR BACK THERE.

THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD PLACE.

THANK YOU, MIKE.

AND THROW THEM ON THE END OF THE HABITAT.

YOU HAVE TO YELL THEM.

WE'LL DO SOMETHING YEAH.

IT'S FUNNY YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE SOMEBODY TOLD ME THIS VERY DAY THAT THE PUBLIC REALLY DOESN'T KNOW A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE CITY AND REALLY, UM, IT'S NOT THE PUBLIC'S FAULT.

IT'S JUST THE KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE DONE ARE DONE BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE DONE.

AND I WOULDN'T KNOW IT EITHER, IF I WASN'T IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, YOU KNOW, I HAD AN INTERESTING EXPERIENCE WITH A GENTLEMAN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WHO WAS LOUDLY CONDEMNING THE CITY FOR NOT DOING MORE TO FILL THE VACANT SPACES IN THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT.

IT WAS TERRIBLE.

HE HAD MOVED HERE SIX MONTHS AGO AND FROM CHARLOTTE, THE CHARLOTTE AREA.

AND I GOT TO THINKING ABOUT IF HE COULD HAVE JUST SEEN WHAT NEWBURGH IN GENERAL LOOKED LIKE, SAY 19 80, 85,

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AND THEN LOOKING AT WHAT'S HERE.

NOW, IT IS JUST, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT TOWNS, TWO DIFFERENT AREAS.

IT'S JUST, IT'S INCREDIBLE.

WHAT HAS OCCURRED IN THIS AREA? I WAS AT ELECTRICITIES.

UM, WE WERE SITTING AROUND THE TABLE AND THE PEOPLE WERE JUST RAVING ABOUT NEW NEWBURN.

AND ONE LADY TOLD ME, SHE SAID, YOU BE SURE THE TAIL, THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND THE MAN, THIS CITY, HOW FRIENDLY THE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN ON YOU SAY, THIS IS REALLY FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE.

PEOPLE ARE GOOD TOO.

SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GO OFF ON A TRIP AND YOU GO ON PEOPLE'S STORES, THEY ROLL THEIR EYES AT YOU.

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING UP IN HERE, BUT EVERYBODY GREETED THEM.

SO I THINK THAT EVEN THE SHOPS DOWNTOWN, HE WAS STAYED OPEN LATE ONE NIGHT SO THAT THEY COULD ENJOY THE SHOPPING DOWNTOWN.

SO PEOPLE SPEAK VERY WELL AND THEY WOULD TALK TO THEM ABOUT HOW, HOW DID WE REDEVELOP DOWNTOWN? AND THEN DOWNTOWN IS DAY.

I TOLD HIM, YOU SHOULD LIKE THESE, LIKE MAX SAID, YOU SHOULD SEE NOW DOWNTOWN YEARS AGO, WHAT A SWISS BEAR, DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION AND THE MERCHANTS DOWNTOWN GOT TOGETHER WITH THE CITY OF NEWBURGH AND THE COUNTY.

AND THEY MADE THESE DIFFERENCES, BUT IT WAS BUILT THERE.

SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO HEAR A GOOD WORD.

YEAH, YOU DO.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY, OH, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, SOMEBODY IS FOR IT.

AND SOMEBODY WHO'S AGAINST IT, BUT YOU SAY IT'S A GREAT ICE CREAM EATER.

I KNEW THAT THAT'S HOW NEAPOLITAN ICE CREAM WAS INVENTED.

A GUY JUST GAVE UP, HE SAID, STRAWBERRY VANILLA.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN.

AND, UH, AND WE REALLY DO.

AND, AND IT COMES OUT RIGHT AS BAD.

AND IF IT DOESN'T HATE, WE DID A WHOLE WEEK OF DUDE.

YEAH.

SO MAX, ARE YOU NEXT? NOTHING UNDER MISCELLANEOUS.

I THINK, I THINK THIS IS WHAT THE TABLES HAD.

IT'S MISCELLANEOUS YEAH.

USUALLY THE TACO WE FIGURED WE'D GIVE YOU GUYS A BREAK TONIGHT.

I AGREE WITH MAPS AND, AND YOU DON'T HAVE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE ATTORNEY'S REPORT.

NO REPORT, NO REPORT.

WELL, THIS IS GETTING CLOSED.

SO BY THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, I HAVE ONE ITEM FOR OPEN SESSION THAT DANNY'S GOING TO ADDRESS MR. MAYOR.

AND THEN WE NEED TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE OBSESSION WITH REGARDS TO PERSONNEL RELATED MATTERS.

ALRIGHT, MR. DANNY, COME FORWARD.

UH, THANK YOU.

MAYOR HAD RECEIVED THE SOUTHEASTERN ASSOCIATION MEETING HERE, 11, 13, IMMEDIATE MOTIVATION, SUCH AS THIS YEAR FOR THEIR MEETING PEOPLE SUPPOSEDLY WILL THAT BE? AND THEY REQUESTED, UH, TWO THINGS AND ONE OF THEM IS, UH, TO CLOSE THE REQUESTED 300 BLOCK, UH, BROAD STREET EVENING, SEPTEMBER THE 11TH FOR, UH, ONE OF THEIR FUNCTIONS, UH, VERSUS OPERATION, UH, FOR THAT GROUP WOULD BE, UH, ALSO A BAND THAT WOULD BE PLAYING SPILL OVER INTO THE STREET AND ALSO BACK AND FORTH TO NEW ZEALAND WHO WAS WORKING WITH THAT GROUP AND SAID, REQUESTED THAT, UH, THEY HAD CONTACTED THE ASSOCIATION.

AND HOPEFULLY THE FIRST THING IS TO BE CLOSED FROM 6:00 PM TO 11:00 PM.

SEPTEMBER 11TH.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

HAVE YOU GOT ANY FEEDBACK YET FROM THE DOWNTOWN MARSALIS? UM, IN SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD AND HE WAS VERY MUCH AWARE THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD.

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I THINK HER LIFE GOING ON NOW THAT'S LACKING.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, I GUESS, JUST TO, WELL, I SPOKE ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AND THERE IS ANOTHER LETTER MAYOR THAT I THINK HE PERCEIVED THE SAME ISSUE OF INCOMING PEPSI IS LOOKING AT PURCHASING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE YET, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT PURCHASING MANNERS SOMEWHAT LIKE THEY DID DURING THEIR STAY BOARD HAS AGREED WITH SWISS BANNER BANNERS CAN GO ALSO, AND THE TIME HAS .

I CERTAINLY THINK WHAT THE CONNECTION WITH THE HISTORY OF PEPSICO AND WE CAN SEE OUR WAY CLEAR TO DO THAT.

YEAH.

BUT YOU SHOULD, AND NOW MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, DISCUSS PERSONNEL.

SO, UH, 1 43, 3 18, 11, 8, 6.