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CHRIS.

I'D LIKE TO SAY GOOD AFTERNOON TO EVERYONE OUT.

WE HAD TO LEAVE THIS MEAN TO GO TO A CANDIDATE FORUM.

AND JUST AFTER I SAY TO PRAY AND BE WITH HIM, BUT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I'LL FOLLOW NOW WITH GOD.

AS WE ONLY COME BEFORE YOU TO SOUTH TO NOME WILL FALL ATTACKING YOU, THAT WE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER.

ONE MORE TIME TO DO BUSINESS IN YOUR NAME.

AS THE FATHER ASKED IT, I WILL BLESS ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIAL IN A VERY SPECIAL WAY.

OH, FATHER, LET THEM KNOW.

YOU GAVE THEM RULE OVER YOUR PEOPLE, THAT THEY ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO YOU.

FATHER, ALMOST IT FOLLOW THE PATH THAT I WAS STRIKING THEM, THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE CITIZENS WAS THE FATHER AFTER DAVA STRIKING THEM IN THE WAY THAT THEY SHOULD GO FROM THE AFTER SPECIAL BLESSING.

THE NIGHT THAT THE CON IN THE CITY REAL BEGAN TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.

I WAS STILL SOME FATHERS THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER, AND THAT WE CAN TO LOVE OUR BROTHERS AS ONE FATHER, THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THIS.

AND YET THAT PLEASING IN THAT SITE, AS THE OTHER BLESSING IN JESUS' NAME, WE PRAYING KIND OF DONE AMEN, MAN.

ONE NATION IN THE VISIBLE HERE, HERE, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TREATED A TOTAL OF 137.5 MILLION GALLONS.

IN THE MONTH OF MARCH.

THE MAXIMUM DAY AVERAGE WAS STOPPED ON 6 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, AND WE TREATED 4.4 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

THROUGHOUT THE MONTH.

OUR SUSPENDED SOLIDS REMOVAL EFFICIENCY WAS 85%.

IN OUR VIEW, THE EFFICIENCY IS 89%.

UH, WE PASSED OUR TOXICITY TEST, WHICH WE HAD, UH, FAILED IN NOVEMBER.

WE FOLLOWED UP WITH A SECOND TEST IN MARCH AND IT PASSED THAT PUTS US IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR MPDS PERMIT.

UH, FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE, UM, ACTIVITY GOING ON AT THE FORUM, UH, WITH OUR STUDY, UH, WE DRILLED TWO ADDITIONAL WELLS, UM, THAT HAVE GIVEN US ADDITIONAL DATA, UH, ABOUT WATER TABLE BETWEEN, UH, THE CLARK'S CORY AND THE MARTIN MARIETTA QUARRY.

AND WE GOT SOME CONFLICTING INFORMATION FOR THE FIRST TIME.

UH, ONE, WELL, UH, WAS UNUSUALLY HIGH, HIGHER THAN WE EXPECTED.

AND SO THAT THREW SOME DOUBT AS TO EXACTLY WHAT IS OCCURRING, UM, UNDERGROUND IN THE, IN THE PLAINS AQUIFER.

AND THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO SETTLE THIS DISPUTE IS TO DRILL TWO ADDITIONAL WELLS.

AND, UH, FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WE GATHERED FROM THE TWO ADDITIONAL WELLS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT THE UNDERGROUND FLOW PATTERNS ARE BETWEEN THE TWO QUARRIES, UH, IS STILL LOOKS POSITIVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

IT MAY NOT BE QUITE AS, UH, THE HYDROLOGIST IS SAYING IT MAY BE, MAY NOT BE QUITE AS GOOD AS WE FIRST ANTICIPATED.

UH, BUT IT STILL, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT'S POSITIVE.

UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? QUITE AS VIVID AS INEFFICIENCY OR, WELL, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT'S ONLY SPECULATION, BUT THE TRANSMISSIVITY THE ABILITY FOR THE LIMESTONE TO TRANSMIT WATER IS STILL VERY HIGH.

WHY THERE IS A RIDGE OF WATER BETWEEN THE TWO QUARRIES, UH, SUGGEST ONE OF TWO THINGS THAT THE WATER IS ACTUALLY FLOWING ON THE GROUND BETWEEN THE TWO QUARRIES AND NOT FLOWING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER, UH, AS WE FIRST ANTICIPATED, UH, OR THERE IS ACTUALLY WATER FLOWING TOWARDS BOTH QUARRIES.

IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S A MOUNTAIN BETWEEN THE TWO QUARRIES AND IT'S ACTUALLY FLOWING FROM, UH, AN AREA 55 AND 43 FOR THE FORK OCCURS THERE.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY FLOWING FROM THAT POINT TOWARDS EACH QUARRY, WHICH, UH, STILL SAYS THERE'S WATER MOVEMENT.

AND THERE'S STILL TRANSMISSIVITY IS JUST NOT FLOWING IN THE, IN THE PATTERN THAT THE HYDROLOGIST EXPECTED.

UH, WE WERE WORKING

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OFF OF, UH, TWO REPORTS THAT WERE DONE IN THE PAST ONE DONE BY MARTIN MARIETTA, HYDROLOGISTS THEMSELVES, AND THEN ANOTHER DONE BY DR.

RALPH HEATH, WHICH IS PART OF OUR PROJECT.

AND, UH, THERE'S JUST SOME CONFLICTING DATA AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT WHETHER WE WILL STILL GET THE AMOUNT OF TRANSMISSIVITY OUT OF THE QUARRY THAT WE'RE EXPECTING IF IT'S FLOWING TOWARDS THE RIVER, RATHER THAN AWAY FROM THE RIVER.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHERE THE OTHER TWO TESTS WELLS.

I ASKED HIM NOT BE ABLE TO HAND IT TO THE GROUND WAR AND THAT TYPE OF THING, OR IS THAT STILL NO, THE, THE GROUNDWATER, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE QUALITY OF THE GROUNDWATER OR OUR ADVERSE, OR A GOOD EFFECT ON THE GROUNDWATER.

THIS JUST HAS TO DO WITH THE MODELING OF HOW THE GROUND WATER ACTUALLY FLOWS AROUND THE QUARRY.

AND THAT HAS, THAT WILL HAVE A BEARING ON EXACTLY HOW MUCH WASTEWATER WILL BE ABLE TO BE PUT INTO THE CORE AND HOW MUCH WILL ACTUALLY DISSIPATE INTO THE GROUNDWATER.

UH, WHEN WE KNOW THOSE FLOW PATTERNS, IT'S A, IT'S A QUANTITY QUESTION RATHER THAN A QUALITY QUESTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I AM X AMOUNT OF THOUSAND.

YEAH.

Y BROUGHT HER BACK.

WE HAVE BEGUN THE QUALITY QUESTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UH, THE LABORATORIES ARE STILL PERFORMING THE ANALYSIS THAT WILL DETERMINE, UH, WHAT EFFECT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THE GROUNDWATER.

WE'VE TESTING BOTH THE GROUNDWATER AND OUR WASTEWATER EFFLUENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO DETERMINE WHAT TYPE OF QUALITY ISSUES MAY, MAY ARISE OUT OF THAT.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY OF THE RESULTS ON THAT TODAY.

WHERE WILL THE NEW WELLS BE DRILLED HALF CLOSE TO THE CURRENT WELLS THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH? IS IT ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE QUARRY? ARE THERE CLOSE PROXIMITY? WELL, SO FAR WE HAVE DRILLED TWO WELLS ON THE QUARRY SIDE ITSELF, ONE BETWEEN THE RIVER AND THE QUARRY AND ANOTHER, UM, RIGHT BEHIND THE, UH, BURN RESTAURANT BETWEEN THE, UH, UH, ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION THERE THAT YOU STILL SEE ON THE QUARRY, JUST ADJACENT TO IT.

NOW WE HAVE DRILLED TWO ADDITIONAL WELLS.

UH, ONE WAS THAT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, WEST NEWBURN THERE ACROSS FROM IN AUTOMOTIVE AND ANOTHER WAS, UH, DRILLED AT OUR, UM, UH, VACUUM LIFT STATION, MOUNT PLEASANT BACKING LIFT STATION LOCATED, UH, ON HIGHWAY 55.

AND IT'S THE ONE THAT WAS DRILLED AT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT LOCATION THAT GIVES US THE ABNORMALLY, HOW, UM, WATER LEVEL, UH, THAT WE WERE NOT EXPECTING THE OTHER WELL GAVE US EXACTLY WHAT WE EXPECTED.

YOU'RE NOT CONCENTRATING THE WELLS IN ONE LOCATION.

YOU'RE SPREADING THEM OUT OVER THE LARGE.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THE ONE THAT WE'RE WANTING TO, THERE'S TWO, WE WANT TO DRILL NOW ONE BACK ON THE CORI SITE ITSELF, AND THEN ONE ON SOME, UH, WEYERHAEUSER PROPERTY ALONG HIGHWAY 70, SO THAT WE GET A GOOD FLOW IN A GOOD MAP OF, OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE IN THE WHOLE AREA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

YES.

MA'AM.

BEFORE WE GO TO THE SWIMMING POOL REPORT, UH, IN OUR LAST MEETING, WE HAD THE RESIDENTS FROM NEW BERN, SAID EXCITED TO COME AND TALK ABOUT.

WE WERE HAVING BIG DITCH PROBLEMS THAT DAY.

SO WE HAD A, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DITCH AND I THINK THAT WE, UH, OUR STAFF TOO, TO GET WITH THEM AND BRING BACK SOME SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW THINGS COULD BE DONE.

AND THE COMMUNITY WAS TOLD TO COME BACK TONIGHT.

AND SO THEY SAID, AND SO THEY'RE HERE.

AND, UH, WELL, I KNOW THAT THE POLICE CHIEF HAS HAD POLICE CHIEF HAS BEEN WITH YOU ALL AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT, UH, VERY GOOD.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, HE WANTS TO GIVE YOU THE FIRST THING ABOUT THE BITCH, BECAUSE HE'S GOT SOME CONCERNS.

WE WENT INTO A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT EFFECT IT HAS ON CONTROLLING CRIME.

SO THERE IS DISCUSSION THAT IS GOING ON.

I DON'T KNOW, HE'S NOT QUITE READY TO GIVE US WHAT I ASKED HIM TODAY WAS ALL THE

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OPTIONS OF DOING THIS, DOING THAT, POSSIBLY FILLING IT IN.

YOU DON'T WANT TO DO RIGHT AWAY.

THAT IS BASED ON ALL THAT I SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO BE A BOBBY BOY, TELL ME WHAT EFFECT TO START OUT WITH.

WHAT EFFECT WOULD IT HAVE ON CRASH? I'M GOING TO PULL IT USED TO SPEED.

IF THERE WAS, IF IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET RID OF THE DITCH, I DON'T KNOW.

WE CAN GET RID OF IT AND THEN INCREMENTALLY BACK DOWN, YOU KNOW, WHAT EFFECT THAT SPECIFICALLY ON CRIME.

AND SO, UM, HE IS NOT, HE'S NOT READY YET, BUT IT, HIS WORDS IT'S GOING TO BE HERE.

UM, I THINK WHAT WE DID THE LAST TIME, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SAID FOR YOU TO COME BACK AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT READY YET, MAYBE WE SHOULD PROPOSE IT THE TIME THAT WEEK INSTEAD OF, UH, IN A WORK SESSION, MAYBE WHEN THE CHIEF CAN MEET WITH US AND RESIDENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WE COULD MOLD IT OVER AND TALK ABOUT THE KINDS OF THINGS.

THAT'S FINE.

THE ONLY THING IS I'M GOING TO GET HIS PROFESSION, NOT WATER, WATER, WATER COPS THINKS ABOUT OTHER PROPERTY, INSTEAD OF WRITING EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY GO THROUGH ALL THAT AND THEN FOUND OUT THAT IT REALLY THAT'S WHERE WE ALL KNOW, YES, WE SHOULD ALL COMING BACK.

LET IT GO AWAY, BUT WE WILL, WE WILL CONTACT THE COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE IT SET UP AFTER WE, UH, THE MAN HAS TALKED WITH THE CHIEF AND SET UP A WORK SESSION WHERE WE CAN ALL JUST SIT AROUND A TABLE AND JUST INFORMALLY TALK ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAVE FOR CLEANING IT UP.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

LET'S SEE.

THE NEXT THING WE HAD WAS THE SWIMMING POOL REPORT.

UM, UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE GRANT PROCESS.

NOW OUR APPLICATION FOR $250,000 IN MATCHING GRANTS WAS TURNED IN ON MARCH THE SECOND TO OUR RECREATION CONSULTANT IN WASHINGTON YESTERDAY, AFTER THE LOCAL OFFICES RAIDED THE GRANTS, THEY WERE TAKEN TO RALEIGH TO THE MAIN OFFICE OF RECREATION RESOURCES, WHICH IS CONNECTED TO NC STATE.

THEY WILL GO OVER THE GRANTS AGAIN FROM AROUND THE STATE.

THE FINAL DISPOSITION WILL BE AT THE END OF JULY, AROUND THE 29TH, OR PARDON ME, JUNE 29TH OR 30TH, THEY WILL GO TO THE PARK AUTHORITY BOARD, WHICH HAS BEEN CHOSEN BY THE GOVERNOR, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE SENATE.

THIS BOARD IS THE FINAL SAY IN WHO GETS TO GRANTS.

UM, NO MATTER HOW THEY WERE RATED LOCALLY OR IN RALEIGH, IF THIS PARK AUTHORITY SAYS, WELL, THIS FOOT, THIS SHIT OF PROJECT SHOULD BE FUNDED.

THEY WILL BE FUNDED.

UM, WE WILL PROBABLY FIND OUT IN LATE JULY OR EARLY AUGUST, THEY DO NOT KNOW YET WHO IS GOING TO SEND OUT THE LETTERS, WHETHER IT'S THE GOVERNOR OR LOCAL LEGISLATORS OR WHAT THIS IS A NEW GRANT FUND.

AND THEY'RE STILL FEELING YOUR WAY ALONG A LITTLE BIT.

THIS YEAR, THERE IS AROUND $5 MILLION IN THE POT.

AND, UH, THIS MONEY COMES FROM REAL STRAIGHT REAL ESTATE TRANSFER TAXES.

IT DOES NOT COME FROM OUR TAXES.

A LOT OF IT GOES TO STATE PARKS.

PART OF IT IS SET ASIDE FOR MATCHING GRANTS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

AND AS I SAY, THIS IS ONLY THE SECOND YEAR, AND I THINK THINGS WILL JUST GET BETTER FROM HERE.

I CAN'T TELL

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YOU WHAT OUR CHANCES ARE.

OF COURSE THERE'S MORE GRANTS AND THERE IS MONEY, BUT WE'LL KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED.

AND ALSO, UM, ON PINE TREE DRIVE, GOING INTO THE PROPERTY AT WEST NEWBURN WHERE THERE'S POSSIBILITY A POOL MAY BE PUT, UM, THERE'S WORK HAS BEGUN ON A ROAD THROUGH THERE, THEIR FIRST PRELIMINARY WORK OF GETTING THE TREES OUT AND RUNNING A ROAD THROUGH THERE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I GOT ONE QUESTION.

YES.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PREPARED TO, UH, FOLLOW UP ON THIS POOL PROJECT BY HAPPENSTANCE.

THIS GRANT IS ALL TURNED DOWN.

DO YOU THINK? WELL, WE STILL HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE POOL IN THE BUDGET.

AND SO, AND WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE REVENUES FROM GRAND FORCES CAN BEGIN HERE.

SO IT WILL BE A BOARD DECISION, BUT YES, I THINK IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

COULD YOU, UH, WHAT AGENCIES DID YOU SAY APPLY FOR THE GRANT? WHAT WAS THE ADDRESS ON THE LETTER? OH, SOMETHING ELSE.

IF WE'RE PAST OVER THIS YEAR, WE CAN REAPPLY NEXT YEAR.

WE JUST TIME ON THE SAME GRANT AND CAN GO RIGHT BACK IN AND REAPPLY THAT THIS IS A MESSAGE HERE.

AND DO OUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES KNOW ABOUT THIS REQUEST, OR THEY'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT WE TRIED TO GET IT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE A FEATHER IN THEIR CAP TO BRING THEM BACK TO US JUST BEFORE NOVEMBER.

DO THEY INFLUENCE IT? COULD THEY INFLUENCE THE SCRAP IN ANY WAY? I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.

BARBARA INFLUENCED THE GRANT, POSSIBLY.

YOU KNOW HOW POLITICS ARE THEN, YOU KNOW, PUT A LITTLE BEE IN THEIR BOT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY MEANS OF FINDING OUT THAT YOUR NAMES OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DO THIS? COULD YOU FAX IT TO MR. HARTMAN SO HE CAN FAX IT TO ME TOMORROW? YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

BUT NOW I KNOW ONE PERSON ON THE BOARD AND I MET A COUPLE OTHERS THAT HAD CONFERENCE THEY'RE SCATTERED FROM AROUND THE STATE.

PRETTY GOOD MIX.

HONESTLY, I JUST WANT TO SEE THE ONE.

OKAY, WELL, I'LL GET ELIZABETH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE WORK.

MR. MAYOR HAS THERE.

I DON'T RECALL WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S BEEN ANY ACTUAL CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AS TO THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROJECT.

SINCE WE KNOW LIKE THE LITTLE LEAGUE PROGRAMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT RESIDENTS WHO LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY ARE GOING TO MAKE USE OF THIS POOL, IF, AND WHEN IT IS BUILT, IS THERE ANY INTENT TO CONTACT THEM DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR BUDGET TOGETHER FOR, YOU KNOW, THE FINGER, THE FOOD PARK, UNTIL THEY FOUND OUT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ONE AND UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL IS THERE.

SO THEY HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF THAT PEOPLE USE AN HOURS BY THEN CASH.

I THINK THERE'S A GOOD IDEA TO APPROACH, TO ASK THEM, WE'LL SCHEDULE A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN US AND THEM, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, NOT WHY CAN'T WE JUST START OFF BY JUST COUNTY FOLKS.

THEY DON'T BE IN IT ANYWAY.

HOW ARE THEY LIKELY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FRIDAY CALLS? PRETTY BIG NUMBER ONE HAND.

BUT IF WE SPREAD IT AROUND ENOUGH TO, WE HAPPENED TO BE COUNTY RESIDENTS.

SO ANYTHING, ANYTHING, ANYTHING THEY CONTRIBUTE 27% OF IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF OUR POCKETS AGAIN.

SO IS THAT THE CORRECT? THEY HAD IS A GOOD IDEA ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES THEY MIGHT HAVE CERTAIN ACTIVITIES THAT THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE GOING ON IN THE POOL.

IF IT'S A JOINT FUNDING ACTIVITY, WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF FUNDING THEM.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE SHOULD DO.

JUST SEND THEM OFF SOMEHOW.

YOU KNOW, OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY PROBABLY FISH EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE THING.

AND YOU KNOW, IF THAT'D BE TRUE TO HELP US WITH IT, MY IDEA IS TO GET THE SCHOOL BOARD INVOLVED FOR, UH, TO PROVIDE FOR COACHING BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T THROW KIDS IN THE WATER AND EXPECT THEM TO SWIM.

YOU NEED TO TEACH THEM HOW

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AND WHO BETTER THAN A SCHOOL BOARD COULD PROVIDE COACHES AND MONITORS OF THE SWIMMING POOL TO TRAIN THE KIDS TO SWIM.

AND I JUST DON'T WANT THE KIDS FALLING IN THE POOL AND DROWNING.

I WANT THEM TO LEARN TO SWIM.

AND THIS IS A ANOTHER PARTNER THAT WE COULD TAP TO HELP US TO PULL OFF SUCH A PROJECT.

CAN WE DO THAT? WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH HIM.

WE CAN ASK HIM AGAIN.

IT'S A NEW BOARD.

UH, IT'S A NEW TIME.

LET'S ASK AGAIN.

DON'T GIVE UP.

LET'S CONTINUE TO ASK FOR ASSISTANCE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON THE SWIMMING BOOTS? NEXT THING WE HAVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING COUNTRY CLUB ROAD FROM OUR TOWN, RESIDENTIAL TO SEE FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUSINESS DISTRICTS.

MR. GEORGE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS MAY HAVE BAYLESS THE MEMBERS OF THE NEW-BORN BOARD OF ALDERMAN YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ARE REQUESTED BY MR. SANDRA ROBERTS TO REZONE A 28,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT LOCATED AT 2107 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD.

PUBLIC NOTICE HAS BEEN MADE IN ACCORDANCE TO THE GENERAL STATUTES AND THE LAND USE ORDINANCE.

THE OWNER SAMMY ROBERTS HAS OPERATED A BUSINESS SINCE THE FIFTIES AT THIS LOCATION.

AND SINCE BECOMING HEALED HAS FAILED TO OPERATE A BUSINESS DEF OF APPROXIMATELY THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND THEREFORE HAS LOST HIS NONCONFORMING STATUS THERE.

THE LOT IS ADJACENT TO AN UNDEVELOPED C4 NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS DISTRICT AT IT'S APRIL 7TH, 1998, REGULAR MEETING THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND THAT THE REZONING BE APPROVED, NO ONE APPEARED OR SPOKEN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST.

OKAY.

PROBABLY HEARING ANYBODY TO HEAR HER POSE.

AND THEN AT NIGHT I'M GOING TO CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I MOVE WITH DR.

ORDINANCE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES.

AND MR. GEORGE, WHAT, UH, IT SAYS HERE, THE PROPERTY WOULD BE, WILL BE USED TO PROVIDE A MUCH NEEDED RETAIL BUSINESS.

JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT BUSINESS? OKAY.

I SEE THE LADY SITTING IN MY BACK THERE.

MS. STILLER HUNT.

SHE'S THE ONE WHO IS GOING TO BE OPERATED.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

I PROMISED HER I WOULD VOTE AGAINST IT, BUT UH, SHE PUT THEM EYES ON ME.

OKAY.

THANKS.

WAIT A MINUTE.

NOPE, NOPE.

UH, YES, YES, YES, YES.

NEXT THING I DON'T HAVE ANY SHIRT, STILL HAVE A VACANCY, UH, ON THE ELECTRIC SERVICE BOARD AND THE, DID THEY CHANGE THE NAME OF THE GOVERNOR'S TRAFFIC COALITION? THEY WEREN'T.

THEY, WHAT IS THE NAME NOW? THEY CHANGED.

OKAY.

WELL THE TRAFFIC SAFETY BOARD, WE DON'T HAVE THE NAME WRITTEN DOWN HERE AND THEY'VE JUST RECENTLY CHANGED THE NAME.

BUT IF THERE IS ANYONE IN THE THIRD WARD IS INTERESTED IN SERVING ON EITHER OF THOSE COMMITTEES, I HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT ON EACH.

JUST LET ME KNOW.

I'M IN THE PHONE BOOK.

WE'LL PUT YOU IN THAT WAY.

WE'LL PUT YOU TO WORK THE ELECTRIC SERVICE BOARD.

SO I HAVE WENT TO, AS A MATTER OF FACT, ON THE ELECTRIC SERVICE BOARD, I HAVE A VACANCY AS SOMEBODY WHO, YOU KNOW, WELL, SHOCKING INACTIVE.

YES, SHOCKING.

SO ANYBODY WANT TO BEAT AN ELECTRIC SERVICE BOARD FROM THE FIFTH WARD? GIVE ME A CALL, GET MEXICO.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF NEWBURN FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO DO SO IF YOU JUST CONTACT YOUR ALDERMAN OR ANY ALDERMAN, YOU KNOW, WE WILL PUT YOU TO WORK.

NO, I REALLY DON'T.

BUT I DO THOUGH.

I JUST MADE MY APPOINTMENT FOR THAT ORDER A FEW WEEKS AGO, IT'S GOING TO GET TO BE A REAL ACTIVE BOARD WITH THIS DEREGULATION AND THINGS COMING UP.

SO YOU REALLY NEED TO FILL IN LOVE

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UNLESS YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT EIGHT YEARS.

NO, SIR.

I HAVE NO MISCELLANEOUS.

UH, NO, SIR.

WELL, THE LAST , OH, I HAVE A RESOLUTION HERE THAT WILL AGREE TO AMEND THE CONTRACT FOR THE ADDITIONAL DRILLING BOARD, THE BOARD TO GET THEM.

SO THIS IS 28, 20 $1,800 FOR THE COST OF THE WHOLE MEAL.

THAT NEEDS TO BE A KNOCK.

THIS REVOLUTION IS THAT AND THEY OF THE DISCUSSION WHERE THEY'D CALL ROLL MOMENT.

YES, YES, YES, YES.

UH, THE LAST TIME I REMEMBER THE BOARD, I HAVE A PETITION FROM WEYERHAEUSER COMPANY TO THE PROPERTY WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OVER ADJACENT TO BURNER, UH, IS, UH, SUFFICIENT.

THE ATTORNEYS LOOKED AT IT.

MAYBE YOU SIGNED OFF, THE ONLY CERTIFICATE IS SUFFICIENT.

AND SO WHAT YOU CAN DO IS ADOPT THE RESOLUTION WHICH WE CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

AND AT THAT TIME AFTER THE HEARING, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BE THE ANNEX.

YES, YES, YES, YES.

ONE OF THE MEN ON THE BUILDING I CAN'T LEAVE WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT BRIANNA A LONG TIME EMPLOYEE, ALL THE PROBLEMS KEVIN IN HERE, TWO GUYS THAT USED TO COME IN THERE.

UH, HE WAS THE BETTER LOOKING YET.

LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

ANYWAYS.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT A WOMAN'S CLUB SITUATION AND THE SITUATION AT THE BUILDING UNITED HAS BEEN SOME, SOME TIME TO KEEP THE BUILDING, TRYING TO RESTORE IT.

AND IT HAS BEEN A GREAT NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFICATION POINT.

AND WE'VE MADE A REAL STRONG EFFORT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT SINCE WE'RE SPENDING SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY, THE TAX PAYER COSTS AND THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE, WHICH WE FORWARDED MEGAN AND .

SO YEAH, THE OPTION WAS TO, UH, TEAR DOWN THE ORIGINAL BUILDING, BUT BUILD BACK A REPRODUCTION USE OF MODERN MATERIALS, THAT KIND OF THING.

SO THEY LOOK, IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT KIND OF THING, BUT THE DEBATE MIGHT NOT HOLD WATER AND STUFF.

UH, INSIGHTFUL.

WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE THAT THEY SIGN HIM UP THE HISTORY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

AND THAT WAS LIKE 300,000 PLUS 350 POUNDS.

SO WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED THAT WE HAVE TO DO AND JUST BECOME A, WHAT IS THE PROPER TERM HAZARD? UH IN OTHER WORDS, RIGHT AWAY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE OTHER THINGS BEING FINISHED AND WE'LL BE DOWN THERE.

RIGHT? SO WHAT WE HAD DECIDED TO DO AFTER TALKING TO MOST, ALL THE PARTIES, OR AT LEAST I'VE DECIDED IS AS FAR AS MY CONCERN AND THE BOARD CAN MAKE ITS DECISION, THE COMMENTS WITH WEIGHT, WHATEVER IT DECIDES, IT WANTS TO DO HIS WAY.

BUT THE IDEA WAS TO LEAVE THE CORNERSTONE, TEAR THE THING DOWN BECAUSE WE MUST LEAVE THE CORNERSTONE AND A SUITABLE PLAQUE TO SAY WHAT IT REPRESENTED AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND FOR US TO MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THEN OUR INTENT WITH THE CITY IS TO BUILD A REPRODUCTION ON THE SITE.

WE RESERVED A LAND SPACE TO PUT, PUT IT ALL ON THAT TYPE OF THING

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AND TO BUILD IT BACK AS A REPRODUCTION OF WHAT IT WAS.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO IT TODAY, GREASE MAN, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO DO, LIKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS ESCALATED.

IF ANYBODY'S TRYING TO BUILD ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUILDING IT MYSELF AND MY OWN COMPANY.

AND SO THEREFORE WE CAN'T DO IT TODAY, BUT WE'LL DO IT THE SAME AS WE CAN WHEN THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE.

BUT THE INTENT OF THE CITY IS TO TRY TO MAKE ALL FOLKS HAPPY IF WE CAN.

SO EXCUSE ME, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

AND THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.

AND EVERYBODY'S GOT THE COMMENTS AND WHATEVER, WHERE DO YOU PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION? WELL, I'LL PUT IT IN THE PHONE PROMOTION.

OKAY.

AND THE MOTION WOULD BE THEN TO TEAR IT DOWN, KEEP THE CORNERSTONE AND COMMIT TO RESTORING IT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS PUT A RATE REDUCTION BACK INTO PLACE.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE OPTIONS WERE JUST GET RID OF IT TO GET, WHICH IS ONE, SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN A WEEK, UM, HAVE FEELINGS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S EMOTIONS AND THAT TYPE OF THING TO GO WITH THE BUILDING.

AND ONE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY SAYS, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST AND WHY WE GOT TO WORK WITH, LET ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DID IN THERE.

WHAT, WHAT WAS IT, WHAT WAS THE WOMAN'S CLUB? WHAT DID SHE DO AS A BUILDING USE OF THE DAY PARTIES WE'D MEET? IT WAS THE WOMEN'S CLUB.

IT WAS THE ONLY PLACE BACK THEN THAT NEWBURN HAD PLACES TO HAVE WEDDING RECEPTIONS AND PARTIES AND DANCES.

IT HAS A LOT OF SENTIMENT TO PEOPLE AROUND MY AGE.

I HAVE SENT HIM A PORTRAIT TOO, BUT THE STORMS BYPASSED ANY CHANCE OF US SPENDING THAT COUNT OF MONEY, TRYING TO REDO.

I AGREE WITH THE FOUNDATION, BE STILL THERE.

I WAS JUST THINKING OF A SUGGESTION IS FINE TO ME, BUT I JUST THINKING IF IT BECAME A, UH, LIKE A PATIO OPENING KIND OF THING, WHERE IF THE FOUNDATION WAS THE STUDY THAT THE GUY DID IS THE PRODUCT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST EXPENSES IS TO TAKE ALL THAT STUFF UP.

YES.

IT'S AMAZING.

IT'S SORRY ABOUT ALL THAT KIND OF BUSINESS, WHICH I SWITCHED FROM ALL THE SOUND AND THINGS A LOT.

I MEAN, I REMEMBER GOING AND WATCHING PEOPLE DANCE AND DO THE SHAG AND ALL THAT.

SOMETIMES WISHING I HADN'T BEEN RAISED A CATHOLIC, SO WE HAVE THAT SAME.

I HAVE THAT SAME SENTIMENT FOR CEDAR STREET.

YOU KNOW, JIM, YOU KNOW, BILLY TO DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

HOWEVER, I WAS JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, A NICE PATIO, BUT IF THE FLOOR IT'S A STRUCTURE, IT'S NOT THERE BECAME A REGIONAL STRUCTURED IN THIS QUESTION.

WHAT DO WE NEED? ALL ENVIRONMENTS? LIKE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR LENS.

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SENT ME.