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THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE CUSTOMER THAT YOU LIVE IN, THE FREEDOMS THAT WE'VE DONE AND JUST PRAY TONIGHT.
GOD, IS THIS MORE DELIBERATE? IT'S REALLY EMBARRASSING.
THE CITY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE HIM WISDOM, GIVE HIM ONE STANDING PACK AND LOAD LEAD THEM TO THE RIGHT OF THE SEASON.
GOD, THAT CAN BE THE BEST FOR THIS CITY.
GOT US IN BECAUSE OF THIS MEETING, HELP US TO DO THAT.
AND WE'RE PRAYING FOR THAT BECAUSE THE CONFERENCE WAS IN CHRIST NAME AND FRAME FOR A SECOND.
FIRST THING WE HAVE IS THE REQUEST, UH, MR.
YOU'LL COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOUR MISSION.
MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS STEVE HICKS AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEWBURN AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I LIVE AT 25, 23 HICKORY STREET, NEWBERN NORTH CAROLINA, UH, THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND BEAR BAYLESS ASKED IF I WOULD FACILITATE AND LEAD A DISCUSSION CONCERNING, UH, THE MEMORIAL THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR DR.
UH, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, UH, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, UH, THIS BOARD, UH, WENT ON, WENT ON RECORD AS NAMING, UH, CLERIC AND BOULEVARD AS, UH, AS A STRAIGHT FOR DR.
AND I THINK THEY DID THAT WITH THE VERY BEST OF INTENTIONS AND CERTAINLY HAD THE VERY BEST INTENTIONS IN MIND WHEN THEY DID SAY, UM, THERE WAS FRANKLY, UH, FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT HAS PEOPLE ON CLARITIN BOULEVARD THAT WOULD HAVE TO DO ME, UH, CHANGES, UH, IN THEIR STATIONARY AND LETTERHEADS AND, AND, UH, ADVERTISEMENTS, UH, LET IT BE KNOWN THAT, UH, THEY FELT LIKE THAT IT WOULD CAUSE HIM SOME HARDSHIPS AS A RESULT.
THE BOARD, I THINK VERY WISELY ASKED, UH, ME BEING WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO GET TOGETHER A REPRESENTATIVE GROUP FLUX THAT COULD DISCUSS, UH, THE SITUATION AND TO COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION, BASICALLY THE BOARD, UH, ASK US TO TRY TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL POSSIBILITIES AND TO RECOMMEND, UH, TO THIS BOARD, UH, PROPOSALS OR APRIL CLOSING IS THAT, UH, THAT THE COMMITTEE FELT LIKE, UH, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE BOARD TO USE TO MEMORIALIZE, UH, DR.
KING, IF YOU PULL IN MIND, EXCUSE ME, SIR.
UH, AND I ALSO HAVE HERE, UM, A WRITTEN REPORT, IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COPY, I TRIED TO CAPSULE AND SUMMARIZE THIS AS BEST I COULD.
AND, UH, I'LL GO OVER THAT REPORT.
UM, THE COMMITTEE DID MEET, UH, AT THE SHERATON HOTEL.
UH, WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE IN THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET, UH, KATHY COOK WITH THE CRAVEN COUNTY SCHOOLS AND JUDY PIERCE WITH THE CRAVE AND REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER AS FACILITATORS FOR THIS, UH, FOR THIS MEETING, UH, THE PARTICIPANTS WERE AS FOLLOWS.
UH, WE HAD, UH, MR. GERALD WINGETT MR. BOOKER T HOWARD, MELVIN COOPER, DR.
CHARLES ASHFORD, MR. BERNARD, UPLIGHT MR. RON NIGHT, MS. JANIE, DYLAN HUNT, THELMA CHADWICK, CHRIS KELSO REVERT, ROBERT JOHNSON, DR.
THURMAN BROUGHT, UH, AND MYSELF, UH, SUMMARY OF THAT MEETING IS, IS AS FOLLOWS.
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UM, I WELCOME THE GROUP.UH, WE ASKED MAYOR BAYLIS TO COME AND TO BASICALLY ON BEHALF OF THE ALDERMAN REQUEST THAT THE COMMITTEE DISCUSS AND RECOMMEND A PROPOSAL OF PROPOSALS FOR HONORING DR.
UH, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT WAS A TERRIBLE TYPE OF THING.
I'VE JUST NOTICED, UH, MAYOR BAYLESS, UH, THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION.
AND THEN HE EXCUSED HIMSELF FROM, UH, THERE WERE NO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING.
UH, THE RIVET ROBERT JOHNSON GAVE THE INVOCATION AND DINNER WERE SERVED.
UH, STEVE HICKS THEN ASKED PARTICIPANTS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
AND THEN I INTRODUCED THE FACILITATORS, UH, GDP OR SOME CATHY COOK.
BOTH OF THOSE LADIES HAVE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE IN FACILITATIVE LEADERSHIP, AND THEY DID A REMARKABLE JOB.
I THINK IN, IN FACILITATING THE MEETING, UH, THERE IS ATTACHED A, AN AGENDA THAT WE UTILIZED.
EVERYBODY HAD A COPY OF THAT AGENDA BEFOREHAND.
SO EVERYBODY KNEW BASICALLY WHAT TO EXPECT.
UH, AND, UH, KATHY COOK WENT INTO SOME DETAIL AND EXPLAINING THE FACILITATIVE LEADERSHIP PROCESS AND PREVIEWED THE AGENDA.
UH, THE PARTICIPANTS THEN AGREED ON THE DESIRED OUTCOME FOR THE MEETING.
AND THAT WAS BY THE END OF THE MEETING, WE WOULD HAVE PROPOSALS OR A PROPOSAL OF HOW TO HONOR DR.
KING TO PRESENT HIS NEW RECORD OF VULNERABLE, UH, JUDY PEERS TO HELP PARTICIPANTS ESTABLISH THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA.
UH, FOR SUGGESTIONS, ONE OF THOSE WAS THAT THE SUGGESTIONS MUST HAVE HERE TO THE NORTH CAROLINA DEITY GUIDELINES, AND THERE'S A COPY ATTACHED AS MANY OF, YOU KNOW, UH, AND AS YOU WILL SEE, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE THAT ACTUALLY DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UH, HAS JURISDICTION OVER.
AND SO, UH, I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE, THERE MIGHT BE SOME GUIDELINES THAT WOULD, WOULD AFFECT ANY DECISION THAT THE ALDERMAN WOULD MAKE BASED ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE OTHER CRITERIA WAS THAT, UH, THE COMMITTEE PREFERRED THAT THE MEMORIAL DR.
KING BE LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, UH, BUT THEY WOULD CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION.
AND BASICALLY THAT WAS, IF YOU GET OUTSIDE THE CITY, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES THAT WOULD HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE ACTUAL, UH, DECISION.
AND WE WERE ASKED BY THE, BY THE CITY ALDERMAN TO, TO, UH, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THEY COULD MAKE A DECISION.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT WE SAID AS CRITERIA.
AND THEN, UH, THE FOLLOWING SUGGESTIONS WERE MADE, UH, THEY WERE NUMEROUS SUGGESTIONS.
UH, WE CLARIFY THOSE SUGGESTIONS AND THEN, UH, DUPLICATION'S WERE ELIMINATED.
UH, AND I'LL, I'LL BRIEFLY GO OVER THOSE SUGGESTIONS.
I THINK THEY WERE, UH, THEY WERE ABOUT OVER 20 SOME SUGGESTIONS WHEN THERE DOES DAN KNOW ABOUT 18 AND, UH, AND THEN WE WENT FROM THERE, BUT, UH, AND THERE'S IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, THIS IS JUST THE WAY THEY WERE, UH, THE WAY THEY WERE RECOMMENDED, UH, THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER AT BICENTENNIAL PARK, UH, UNION POINT PARK, UH, THE NEW AIRPORT TERMINAL, UH, NEUSE BOULEVARD, UH, EIGHT, UH, CITY PARK AND EXISTING CITY PARK.
UH, THE CRAVEN COMMUNITY COLLEGE, UH, INSTITUTE FOR AERONAUTICAL ENGINEERING, UH, WAS SUGGESTED, WHICH ACTUALLY I UNDERSTAND WILL BE LOCATED, UH, AT HALF-GALLON, UM, THE NEUSE RIVER, UH, THE NEW NEUSE RIVER BRIDGE, UH, SWIMMING POOL, IF ONE WAS CONSTRUCTED, UH, A RECREATION PARK, UH, WHICH COULD BE ANY OF THE CITY'S RECREATIONAL PARKS, UH, THE NEW FIRE STATION, THE NEW POLICE STATION, US HIGHWAY 70 WITHIN THE NUMEROUS CITY LIMITS, UH, BROAD STREET FROM FIRST STREET TO THE NEUSE RIVER CLARITIN BOULEVARD.
AND FIRST STREET FROM THE PEMBROKE EXIT TO BROAD STREET, UH, PARK AREA AT THE END OF BROAD STREET WHEN THE JOHN LAWSON BRIDGE IS CLOSED.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE AREA THAT NOW I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE SUDAN TEMPLE, POSSIBLY, AND THE EXISTING BRIDGE BETWEEN THE OLD HOLIDAY INCITE AND THE OTHER, BUT THAT'S, UH, THAT WAS THE AREA THAT WAS, THAT WAS DESCRIBED, UH, A NEW CITY PARK OR THE NEW COUNTY RECREATIONAL PARK.
AND AS I SAID, THEY WERE, THEY WERE SEVERAL, UH, OTHERS, BUT THEY WERE BASICALLY DUPLICATES OF, OF, OF THESE THAT I'VE JUST MENTIONED.
UH, WHAT WE DID THEN WAS WE, UH, WE WERE ASKED, UH, EACH MEMBER WAS ASKED TO, UM,
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TO PLACE, UH, FIVE VOTES IN OTHER WORDS, TO TAKE A POST-IT AND, AND, AND RIGHT.UH, ACTUALLY STICK IT UP, BUT BESIDE P WRITE THE NAME AND STICK IT UP BESIDE THE, UH, THE, THE LIST THAT WAS ON THE FOLLOWING LIST THAT WAS, UH, PLACED ON THE BOARD.
AND, UH, AS YOU SEE, UH, THE, UH, THE TOP VOTE GETTERS WERE BASICALLY THE TOP THREE, UH, SUGGESTIONS WERE, UH, THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER, UH, US HIGHWAY 70, UH, WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND CLARINGTON, UH, BOULEVARD, UH, NEUSE BOULEVARD WAS PROBABLY NEXT.
AND THEN THE REST OF THEM WERE ALMOST EQUALLY, UH, SOMEWHAT SOME OF THEM GETTING ONE OR NO VOTES, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, AFTER THOSE, THOSE THREE WERE SUGGESTED, UH, THE FOLLOWING, UH, CONNOTATIONS COMMENDATIONS AND, UH, CONCERNS REGARDING EACH ONE OF THOSE WERE EXPRESSED AND, AND DISCUSSED.
UH, THE FIRST WAS JUST A BRAINSTORMING EXERCISE.
AND THEN WE ACTUALLY GOT INTO THE DISCUSSION, THE PROS AND CONS OF, OF THOSE, UH, TOP THREE SUGGESTIONS.
UM, ALL THREE SUGGESTIONS WERE CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT MEMORIALS.
UH, THEY ALL HAD HIGH VISIBILITY, HIGH TRAFFIC, UH, AND THEY WERE EASILY IDENTIFIABLE.
UH, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT EACH ONE, UH, THE CRAVEN COUNTY CONVENTION CENTER.
AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THAT WILL NOT BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE SPRING OF 2000, THAT'S SOME, TWO YEARS AWAY.
UH, AND IT ALSO MUST HAVE THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE COUNTY AS WELL AS, AS THE CITY.
SO YOU WOULD BE GETTING INTO ANOTHER, UH, GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, UH, US HIGHWAY 70 WITHIN THE NEWBURN CEDAR LIMITS.
UH, WE FELT LIKE THAT, UH, IF YOU TOOK A CLOSE LOOK AT THE, UH, AT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, WHICH I'VE ALSO ATTACHED, UH, THERE YOU'LL FIND THAT, UM, WE FELT LIKE THAT, UH, IT WAS UNLIKELY TO GET DLT APPROVAL.
I NEED TO, TO EXPLAIN TO YOU, I THINK AT THIS TIME THAT, UH, THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS, UH, THERE'VE BEEN NUMEROUS SECTIONS OF STATE HIGHWAY THAT'S BEEN NAMED AFTER DR.
UH, THERE IS A GRAY AREA, AS FAR AS THE DEITY IS CONCERNED BETWEEN WHETHER YOU NAME A HIGHWAY OR A FACILITY AS THEY CALL IT, OR EVEN MORALIZE.
IT THERE'VE BEEN NUMEROUS, UM, MEMORIALS BY NOT RENAMING THE, THE FACILITY, UH, BUT PUTTING UP A SIGN THAT PAYS TRIBUTE.
UM, THE, UH, DEITY ALSO BASICALLY SAYS THAT IF IN FACT THEIR FACILITY HAS ALREADY BEEN NAMED WITHIN THE STATE OR WITHIN THE SYSTEM, THEN THEY HAVE A POLICY WHERE THEY WILL NOT NAME THAT FACILITY, ANOTHER FACILITY FOR THE SAME PURPOSE, UH, EXCUSE ME, FOR THE SAME PERSON.
UH, SO, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE, THAT, UH, WE FELT LIKE THAT IT POSSIBLY, UH, WOULD BE UNLIKELY THAT WE'D GET DOD APPROVAL.
IF IN FACT, USI WERE 70, WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, UH, PROBABLY COULD GET, UH, A MEMORIAL, BUT PROBABLY COULD NOT GET THE, THE STRETCH OF HIGHWAY NAME.
UM, ALSO THE STATE CONTROLS THE BYPASS AND IT'S NOT BASICALLY CONSIDERED IN THE CITY PROPER, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY DEBATABLE, BUT, UH, WE, THE COMMITTEE PRETTY MUCH AGREED THAT, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS THE CASE, UH, CLARE TO BOULEVARD.
UH, I EXPRESSED SOME, SOME CONCERNS FROM THE BUSINESSES, THE AIR FORCE, I DO REPRESENT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
UH, I HAD POLLED THE MEMBERS, UH, TO, UH, TO SEE, UH, HOW THEY FELT.
AND VERY FRANKLY, A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES FELT LIKE A CHANGE OF ADDRESS WOULD, UH, WOULD COST THEM MONEY.
SOME OF THEM HAD BEEN THROUGH SOME CHANGES, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UM, THERE ARE SOME SUGGESTIONS, UH, I WILL GET INTO OF HOW MAYBE TO MINIMIZE, UH, SOME OF THOSE, UH, SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, UM, UH, BUT, UH, THE NAME CHANGE, IT WAS THOUGHT PROBABLY WHAT ALSO CAUSED SOME CONFUSION, AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE BUSINESSES THERE, UM, FEEL.
AND THEY'VE EXPRESSED THAT I'M SURE TO SOME OF YOU EVEN HAVE EXPRESSED THAT, UH, HOWEVER, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THE NAME CHANGE AT CLARITIN BOULEVARD.
UH, AND HERE, HERE ARE A NUMBER OF THE REASONS, UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN THE
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VOTE WAS TAKEN, UH, IT WAS ACTUALLY 10 IN FAVOR OF CLARITY BOULEVARD AND THEN ONE EACH FOR THE OTHER TWO, UH, FOR THE OTHER TWO, UH, SUGGESTIONS, UH, IT WAS SAID THAT, UH, CLARITIN BOULEVARD, WHICH ALSO IS KNOWN AS YOU HAD 17 SOUTH, IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT STREETS WITHIN THE CITY.AND I'LL ELABORATE ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT, UH, AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW THE, UH, THE MALL WAS THERE MAJOR, UH, SHOPPING, UH, SENATORS WERE THERE, UH, THE MAJOR RETAIL STORES, THERE IS A PLACE WHERE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, UH, SHOPS, A LOT OF, LOT OF PEOPLE WORK THERE.
UH, IT IS FRANKLY A, THE MOST CONCENTRATED AREA OF BUSINESS.
AND IT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT AREA THAT EVERYBODY WITHIN THE ENTIRE AREA, AS WELL AS THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN THE CITY UTILIZE, UH, UTILIZE FREQUENTLY.
UH, ALSO, UH, IT'S A MAJOR ROUTE FOR STUDENTS THAT TRAVEL TO THE, TO THE SCHOOLS.
UH, THE NEW-BORN HIGH SCHOOL IS OF COURSE ON U S 17 SOUTH, AS WELL AS, UH, BEING QUEEN ELEMENTARY AND ALSO GRIEVOUSLY FIELD, REAL SCHOOLS.
SO THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, UH, THERE, AND IT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT STREET.
AND I THINK, UH, THE COMMITTEE AGREED THAT THAT, UH, DR.
KING NEEDED TO BE MEMORIALIZED IN A VERY SIGNIFICANT WAY.
UH, THE FOLLOWING SUGGESTIONS WERE MADE TO HELP MINIMIZE, UH, PROBLEMS THAT MIGHT OCCUR IN THE CHANGING THE NAME OF THE STREET.
UH, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT, UH, CHANGE, UH, COULD BE AGREED ON AND THEN COULD BE MADE EFFECTIVE ON DR.
KING'S BIRTHDAY IN JANUARY 15TH, 1999.
AND THIS WOULD GIVE BUSINESSES EIGHT MONTHS OR MORE TO USE A CURRENT STATIONARY BUSINESS CARDS.
AND, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS BEFORE HAVING TO REORDER, UH, MANY BUSINESSES ALREADY USE US HIGHWAY 17 SOUTH, UH, AS A LOCATION ADDRESS TO AVOID CONFUSION.
UH, AND THE NEWBURN CHAMBER IS CERTAINLY WILLING TO DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN TO HELP DEVELOP A PR CAMPAIGN TO HELP CLARIFY THAT LOCATION RECOGNITION TO HELP THE BUSINESSES THERE.
IF IN FACT, THE NAME IS, UH, HAS CHANGED.
UH, IT WAS ALSO SUGGESTED THAT A DEDICATION CELEBRATION MEMORIALIZING, DR.
KING COULD INCLUDE PARTICIPATION FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES AND THAT THAT COULD ENHANCE BUSINESS TRAFFIC, AND THAT COULD ENCOURAGE PATRONAGE OF THOSE OF THOSE BUSINESSES.
SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE MANY SUGGESTIONS.
UH, IF IN FACT, YOU DECIDE ON, ON CLARITIN BOULEVARD AS SUGGESTED BY THE COMMITTEE, THEN THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD, THAT COULD BE DOING OVER THAT, UH, TIME PERIOD.
UH, I WAS ALSO ASKED TO TAKE A LOOK AT, AT, UH, AND TALK WITH THE POSTAL SERVICE, UH, AS FAR AS MAIL DELIVERY, I DID TALK WITH, UH, UH, DALE, UH, HOCKER, WHO IS A POSTMASTER, AND HE ASSURED, UH, YOU SHOWED ME THAT THE POST OFFICE WOULD DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO DELIVER, UH, MAIL REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE STREET ADDRESS WAS.
AND IF THERE WAS CHANGE THAT THEY WOULD NOT ONLY DO THAT FOR SIX MONTHS, BUT FOR ONE YEAR, THEY WOULD MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO SEE THAT THE MAIL WAS PROPERLY DELIVERED AND DELIVERED ON TIME.
UH, THE, UH, I TALKED WITH THE TELEPHONE COMPANY, THERE'S A TELEPHONE BOOK CHANGED NORMALLY IN NOVEMBER OF EVERY YEAR.
UH, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANY NAME CHANGE OR ANY STREET, UH, THAT, UH, IT'D BE DONE, ALRIGHT, ACTUALLY BE ANNOUNCED OR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO THOSE BUSINESSES, EVEN IF IT WERE DELAYED UNTIL MAY AND MADE EFFECTIVE IN JANUARY, THAT IF IT WAS DECIDED UPON NOW THAT THOSE BUSINESSES WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THAT WHATEVER DRESS THEY WANTED TO UTILIZE COULD BE PUBLISHED IN THE, IN THE PHONE BOOK AND THE YELLOW PAGE ADS OR BEING DONE AS OF NOW.
AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH JUNE TO SELL IT YELLOW PAGE.
AND SO IT, IT WOULD GIVE FOLKS AN OPPORTUNITY IF IN FACT, THEY WANTED TO, UH, TO GO AHEAD AND CHANGE THE NAME OF THEIR ADDRESS BEFORE, UH, IT WAS MADE EFFECTIVE.
IF IN FACT IT'S MADE EFFECTIVE IN, UH, IN JANUARY, UH, THERE ARE
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SEVERAL, UH, PEOPLE HERE, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT WERE ON THE COMMITTEE.IF ANY OF THOSE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, UH, NOW WOULD BE TO BE THE TIME TO DO THAT.
I'VE LEFT OUT HERE, PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO CORRECT.
UH, MY NAME IS GERALD WINGATE.
I RESIDE AT 2 0 5 RIPPLEWOOD COURT, UH, WOBURN NORTH CAROLINA.
UH, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU AND TO SHARE A FEW WORDS WITH YOU REGARDING THIS, UH, PROCESS.
FIRST OF ALL OF US, THE MAYOR I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR SELECTING ME TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE, TO IDENTIFY THE MOST OPTION FOR HONORING DR.
I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
LET ME JUST SIMPLY REITERATE AND REINFORCE COMMENTS MADE BY MR. HICKS, THE COMMITTEE MAT, WE FOLLOWED THE PLAN OF ACTION.
WE COMPLETED THE TASK CONSISTENT WITH THE GROUND RULES TONIGHT.
IT IS NOW TIME FOR YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THE ALDERMAN TO AFFIRMATIVELY SUPPORT.
OUR RECOMMENDATION SAYS THIS WILL BE YOUR SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE.
SO TO SPEAK, IT SHOULD BE EXPLICITLY CLEAR TO YOU NOW THAT THE INITIAL PROPOSAL OF RENAMING CARDS AND BOULEVARD IS STILL THE PROPOSAL OF CHOICE AFTER EXTENSIVE BOWEL LOG AND DELIBERATION, 10 OF THE 12 COMMITTEE MEMBERS FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE RENAMING OF VIRGIN BOULEVARD IS THE MOST RELEVANT AND REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE FOR THE CITY TO PURSUE.
WE STAND READY, MR. MAYOR, TO ASSIST YOU AND THE ULTIMATE BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT OUR PROPOSAL BECOMES A REALITY.
MR. MAYOR AND BOARD, UH, IT WAS MY PLEASURE TO BE NAMED ON THAT COMMITTEE AS WELL.
AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY THAT WAS PRESENT AT THAT MEETING FELT VERY, VERY STRONGLY THAT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THEY FELT SO BECAUSE CLARENDON BOULEVARD IS A PLACE WHERE RICH AND POOR WHITE AND BLACK, OLD, AND YOUNG GET TOGETHER.
THERE, THEY GO TO THE RESTAURANTS THERE.
THEY, THEY FEEL LIKE A BYPASS ON THE HIGHWAY IS NOT VERY MEANINGFUL.
EVERY CITY IN THE UNITED STATES SEEMS TO HAVE A MARTIN LUTHER KING JR BOULEVARD.
THEY FEEL THAT, UH, IF THE BOARD AND THE CITY WANT TO MAKE THEM MEANINGFUL OR COMMEMORATIVE FOR DR.
KING AND SEND A STRONG MESSAGE TO THE MINORITY COMMUNITY, HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS IN OUR CITY, THEN CLARENDON BOULEVARD WOULD BE AN IDEAL CHOICE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I'VE RECENTLY COME TO LEARN SOMETHING I SUSPECTED, BUT DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THAT NEW BERN AND CRAVEN COUNTY HAVE A UNIQUE HISTORY IN THE UNITED STATES, IN AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY, AND PARTICULARLY IN WHITE AND BLACK RELATIONS AND TRY AND PALACES NOW FUNDING A STUDY.
AND THIS IS A BIG CO GOING TO BECOME KNOWN TO ALL OF US.
UH, AND THE YOUNG AUTHOR OF THIS RESEARCH POINTED OUT HOW SHAMEFUL IT IS THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY KNOWN ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
AND THIS COMMEMORATIVE WOULD REINFORCE THAT MESSAGE.
A MAN TOLD STEVE AND ME YESTERDAY.
HE SAID, WELL, HE THINKS THIS IS WELL AND GOOD, BUT WHEN MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS KILLED, HE WAS VERY SADDENED BY IT.
BUT HE HAPPENED TO BE IN WASHINGTON WHERE THEY TOLD THE CITY UP AND WE ALL REGRET THAT, BUT THEY DIDN'T TEAR THE CITY UP IN NEWBURGH.
AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS, THAT'S OUR COURT.
ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT ANYBODY MARILYN, AND REMEMBER THE BOARD.
I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE.
AND I THINK THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION FOR US TONIGHT IS TO NUMBER ONE IS TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE DRAFTED, BUT THEN THE CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT MEETING, A NAMING PARADIGM BOULEVARD OR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR BOULEVARD, AND HAVEN'T BEEN AFFECTED ON HIS BIRTHDAY.
I THINK IT'S JANUARY 15TH, 1999.
AND, UM, JUST HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, THE GUILT OF BUSINESS'S OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE AND WE'LL ADOPT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
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DISCUSSION FROM THIS GUY? UM, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHILE THE, THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN GOING ON, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL PEOPLE, UH, WHO HAVE, UH, WHO HAVE MADE STATEMENTS ON TELEVISION, THAT THE REASON THAT THE BOARD DELAYED ANY SUCH CHANGE WAS RACIAL.AND THAT HAS DISTURBED ME GREATLY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT ANY BOARD CAN DO, THAT SOMEONE CANNOT FIND A WAY TO TERM RACIAL, IF THAT'S THE WAY THEY WANT TO SEE IT.
BUT I DON'T THINK IN PUTTING THIS OFF, THAT WAS ANYTHING RACIAL CONNECTED WHATSOEVER.
I HAVE A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ABOUT THIS AS DID ALL OF US.
I'M SURE NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE EXPRESSED ANY RACIAL ASPECT CONNECTED WITH IT.
ALL I HEARD WAS THE PROBLEMS. IT WOULD CREATE FOR AN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF BUSINESS PEOPLE ON THAT ROAD.
AND IT COULD NOT BE, IT, IT WOULD NOT END JUST BECAUSE OF AN EIGHT MONTH DELAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT'S GOING, IF WE DO THIS, IT IS GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF HARD FEELINGS.
IT, IT MAY CREATE SOME RACIAL FEELINGS THAT IT'S BEING FORCED BY A GROUP OF THE POPULATION, AND WE'RE BEING PRESSURED TO DO IT BY A GROUP OF THE POPULATION.
AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT KIND OF PRESSURE.
NOW, IF I VOTE AGAINST THIS, THERE ARE GOING TO BE THOSE WHO CALL ME RACIST.
BUT BEFORE THEY UTTER THAT WORD, I WANT THEM TO CONSIDER SOME THINGS.
THIS CITY HAS AS AN OFFICIAL HOLIDAY, MARTIN LUTHER KING'S BIRTHDAY.
I'M THE PERSON THAT MADE THAT MOTION.
I MADE THE MOTION THAT, THAT, THAT DAY BECOME A HOLIDAY IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH AND ROBERT RAINER SECONDED IT.
ROBERT? I REMEMBER NOPE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
AND IT HAPPENED IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM DOWNSTAIRS AT A WORK SESSION, AS A JOURNALIST DURING THE SIXTIES, I STILL KNOW IT IS NOT POLITICS, BARBARA.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS.
IT HAS TO DO WITH DOING THE JOB THAT PEOPLE PICK YOU TO DO, MAKE REASONABLE JUDGMENTS ON WHICH DIRECTION TO GO ON ANY QUESTION THAT COMES BEFORE US, AS WE DISCUSSED, I MENTIONED THE MAYOR BEFORE THIS MEETING AS A JOURNALIST, I STILL HAVE AT MY HOME, WHICH I'LL BE GLAD TO SHOW TO ANYONE ON ANY TIME YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM.
THE AMERICAN INDIAN MOVEMENT BUTTON THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME BY RUSSELL MEANS WHEN I COVERED THE PROTEST THAT THEY STAGED, I STILL HAVE THE BADGE THAT SAYS MOUNTAIN TO THE TOP, TO THE VALLEY, MARCH ON RALEIGH, IN WHICH I PARTICIPATED WITH GOLDEN, FRANKS, THAT NAME RING A BELL DON'T EVER CALL ME A RACIST BECAUSE IT IS NOT.
SO I SEE ONE GENTLEMEN, FIND SOMETHING FUNNY IN THAT.
I'M GLAD SOMEBODY SEES HUMOR IN THERE, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS TO MAKE THIS CHANGE WOULD BE A GREAT INCONVENIENCE ON AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THERE ARE MANY OTHER THINGS SUGGESTED HERE AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT COULD BE DONE.
I SEE HERE, THE CITY, THAT HIGHWAY 70 DOESN'T REALLY, IT'S NOT REALLY PART OF NEWBORN.
I SEE THAT THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT MIGHT NOT LIKE THAT IDEA, BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE THEY'VE BEEN CONTACTED IN ANY RESPECT TO FIND OUT.
THE ONE THING I AM SAYING IS ANY VOTE I CAST IS BASED ON WHAT I FEEL TO BE THE PRACTICAL ASPECT OF WHAT IS PRESENTED TO US, THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'LL CREATE FOR THE MOST PEOPLE, THERE IS NOTHING RACIAL IN IT.
AND TO THINK THAT THERE IS, WOULD BE AN INSULT TO ME AND TO A LOT OF WORK I HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
AND I JUST WANT THAT UNDERSTOOD.
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HANDLE THE COMMENTS, BARBARAI GUESS WE'RE DOING AN ORDINANCE.
WE JUST HAVEN'T GENTLEMEN, WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN, BUT WAIT A MINUTE, YOU SAID THAT YOU ASKED FOR IT ALL IN FAVOR, ASK FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT OKAY.
DID YOU HEAR ABOUT IT? I SAID ALL THAT, AND THIS IS TO HAVE, THIS IS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
I WILL VOTE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON ANY OTHER SUBJECT OR WHATEVER? I HAVE SEEN THINGS.
MA'AM BUT I DO KNOW THAT YOU HAD CLOSED THIS PARTICULAR THING, BUT SINCE NO ONE ELSE IS GETTING UP THERE TO SPEAK OR ANYTHING, I JUST FEEL THAT I HAVE TO ADDRESS A MR. FREEZE, A COMMENT THAT HE JUST MADE CONCERNING A MARTIN LUTHER KING.
MY NAME IS MELVIN COOPER, 3 1 3 SCOTT STREET, NEWBERN NORTH CAROLINA.
I WOULD GO ON RECORD AS THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY SPEAKING OF WHO SAID THAT THE CITY OF NEW BERN BOARD OF ALL HUMANS MADE A DECISION ON RACIAL BEING RACIST? WELL, I DID NOT SAY THAT THE CITY, ALL OF THE ONES WAS RACIAL THAT THE BUSINESSMAN WHO CLAIMED THAT THIS WOULD BE A FINANCIAL BURDEN TO THEM TO RENAME MARTIN LUTHER KING CLARITIN TO MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
BEHIND SOME LETTERHEAD AND SOME BUSINESS CARDS.
WHAT IS $70, BUT THAT'S ALL THE LETTERHEAD AND BUSINESS CARDS WOULD COST THEM IS FIVE FOR 500.
LETTERHEADS IS $40 FOR A THOUSAND BUSINESS CARDS IS AROUND $30.
SO WHAT IS $70 COMPARED TO A MAN WHO STOOD FOR PEOPLE OF ALL COLOR? NOT JUST AFRICAN-AMERICANS, BUT PEOPLE OF ALL COLOR.
AND IF WE JUST FEEL THAT AS MR. HIX STATED THAT WE MET AS A COMMITTEE THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY THIS BOARD AND THE MAYOR TO COME UPON A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE FEEL WOULD BE SUITABLE TO MORALIZE DR.
MARTIN LUTHER KING AND SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF NEWBURGH WOULD BE PROUD OF.
AND WE WANT IT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
NOW, MIKE, NOT MICHAEL SAID YESTERDAY TO SAY THAT, BUT
AND I JUST FEEL, I WANT TO MAKE, MAKE MY POINT AND I'LL TURN AROUND AND I'LL MAKE MY POINT AGAIN AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT IF HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE CALLED A RACIST AND STATE THAT THE TWO, TWO THINGS THAT HE SHOULDN'T BE CALLED THAT IS BECAUSE ONE, HE MADE A MOTION TO MAKE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
HOLIDAY IN THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
AND THAT HE RECEIVED A BUTTON FROM THE AMERICAN INDIANS.
I HAVE THE SAME THING I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND
FOR ME, IT WOULD ALSO BE REFRESHING MEREDITH.
IF THIS CITY WAS TO GO AT THIS ALL WOMEN THAN YOURSELF, GO AHEAD ON AND CARRY THROUGH WITH WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY SET BACK IN YOUR WORKSHOP.
YOU DID IT, MR. MR. COVID NEED TO PUT A PROCEDURE IN PLACE AND WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW IT.
AND, UH, WHERE THE DULY ELECTED OFFICIALS AT THE CITY, LEGALLY AND DAILY ELECTING WANT THE BANK STATEMENTS, PLEASE WAIT FROM ABOUT HERE.
I'LL ASK HIM A NICE WAY TO PLEASE GO BY OUR RULES.
LET'S FREEZE OVER THE CAN OF WORMS. I HAVE A, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CITIZENS, I HAVE SOMETHING THAT I WAS GOING TO WAIT FOR MISCELLANEOUS.
BUT SINCE WE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, IT'D BE KIND OF GOOD TO DO.
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HAD A CALL FROM A, SOME MEMBERS OF THE AMIGA SAPPHIRE FRATERNITY, WHO IS NOW HOUSING, THE OMEGA CENTER, UH, AND THEY, ONE OF THE MEMBERS, MR. JASPER HAYES, UH, IS IT WELL, AND THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF WE COULD CHANGE THE NAME OF THE OMEGA SENTENCES, ACTUALLY SEE THE STREET CENTER IN HONOR OF MR. HAYES, JASPER GARFIELD HAYES, OMEGA CENTER.AND, UH, I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS REALLY GREAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE MR. HAYES HIMSELF WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDERS OF THAT MANY YEARS AGO.
AND IT WAS JUST VERY NICE IN A WAY I ASKED MR. MEADOWS IF HE WOULD GET A RESOLUTION TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER IT OR ADOPT IT TONIGHT TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE SENATOR FROM, TO SEE THE STREET, SEND IT TO THE JASPER, HEY, SCOTT, JASPER GARFIELD HAYES, OMEGA CENTER, MR. WARD HAS SOME OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT, THE GOD IN IT, WE HAVE THE, OKAY.
WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION BEFORE US.
AND I DON'T KNOW, WE NEED TO BE DISPATCH SOLUTION OR THE AMIGAS RIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO READ THIS, THIS BEST SOLUTION, RATHER, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.
WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE WE DOING? MAKE US SET UP.
IS HERE ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE OMEGA? WELL, YOU'VE GOT THE RESOLUTION.
SPEAK ON SOMETHING ON THAT, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM WITH THAT STATE YOUR NAME, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEWMAN AREA IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE THAT IS COMMITTEE, WHO IS LOOSE ON IT CENTER.
WE ARE THE COMMITTEE WHO ACTUALLY OPERATE THE CENTER.
AND THAT APP, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT COME BEFORE US.
SO I NEED TO COME BEFORE OUR BOARD AND THAT'S MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.
WE HAD TO COME PULL WHAT WARD NOW, NEWBURN AREA IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE BOARD.
WELL, WHO MADE THE ONE THAT HAVE THE LEAST NOW THE CASE STUDY ON MEGA SAPPHIRE FRATERNITY AND A MATE, A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OMEGA PSI PHI FRATERNITY THAT WE ARE HAVING.
WE ARE BEING CONTRADICTED FRATERNITY TOO.
AND WE DO HAVE A STIPULATION AND WE HAVE A CORPORATION THAT RUNS THE CENTER UNDER THAT NAME.
WE DID ASK FOR A NAME CHANGE TO, OKAY, LISTEN TO ME, BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
IT WAS REQUESTED BY A GENTLEMEN.
AND HE SAID THAT THE MEMBERS OF THEY MAKE A SAPPHIRE FRATERNITY, ASKED THAT WE DO THIS IN HONOR OF MR. HAYES, WHO IS FAILING IN HIS HEALTH.
AND THEY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE OR SHOULD BE DONE QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF HIS ILLNESS.
AND, UH, SO, UM, I'M A BIG IMPRESSION.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING I THOUGHT OF.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALL OF THE GENTLEMEN OF THE FRATERNITY FELT GOOD ABOUT, AND WE DIDN'T EXPECT ANY OPPOSITION.
CAUSE I ASKED HIM WHAT YOU KNOW, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT FROM YOUR COMMUNITY? AND THEY SAID, YES.
AND IT DID NOT EXPECT ANY OPPOSITION TO THE NAME CHANGE.
I REALLY VERY SURPRISED AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT ANYBODY WOULD BE OPPOSED TO THAT NAME CHANGE THAT'S IT HAS A RESOLUTION HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY YOUR LOCAL.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING YOU.
WELL IT HAS NOT BY THE AMIGAS.
SO WHERE DOES THIS REQUEST COME FROM? YOU THINK FRATERNITY? NO PROBLEM.
THAT'S WHAT DRAW OUT EMOTIONS AND, AND LET THEM COME IN.
FORMALLY REQUESTED, REQUESTED.
MY PROBLEM IS IF SOMEONE CALLED ME UP AND ASKED ME TO DO SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING I AGREE THAT COULD BE DONE OR SHOULDN'T BE DONE THAT EXPECT THE SUPPORT OF THAT GROUP.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY GOOD.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY GOOD FOR MR. HAYES AND FOR THE OMEGA CENTER PERSONALLY, BUT YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T THINK OF IT.
THE GENTLEMAN CALLED ME AND ASKED ME IF THERE WAS SOME WAY WE CAN GET THIS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION.
I ASKED HIM AT THAT TIME, WOULD THAT BE IN OPPOSITION TO THE CHANGE NAME, TO JASPER B HAYES
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OMEGA CENTER? AND THEY SAID, NO.AND I DID NOT ANTICIPATE THAT.
SO THAT MAKES US LOOK A LITTLE CRAZY HERE.
IF WE'RE STANDING HERE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE, AND THEN WE HAVE OTHERS WHO ARE OPPOSING IT IN THAT MANNER.
BUT FOR THAT REASON, FOR THAT REASON, FOR THAT REASON, I WITHDRAW IT RIGHT NOW.
MAY I SAY SOMETHING? AND I, I DIDN'T SAY THIS BECAUSE THIS IS THE SAME SITUATION THAT YOU IN PREVIOUS ABOUT THE STREET.
YOU DIDN'T CONTACT EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED BEFORE IT WAS ANNOUNCED.
I THINK THAT'S MOSTLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BY THOSE OF YOU, OF THE OMEGAS COMMITTEE.
IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN THEY ASKED US TO RENAME THE STREET, THE GENTLEMAN WHO CAME AND ASKED US, ASKED US, AND WE IN GOOD INTENTIONS BECAUSE WE AGREED AND STILL AGREE THAT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA AND DID IT.
SO THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS THIS TIME.
WHEN THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE OF THEM, I AM REALLY BOTHERED BY THIS.
WHEN A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OMEGA CENTER OF THE AMIGA FRATERNITY ASKED US TO NAME THE CENTER THAT WE KNOW JASPER B HAYES DID HELP BUILD TO JASPER BEHAVE.
AND THEN SOMEBODY IS IN OPPOSITION TO IT.
YOU JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THAT LOOKS, BUT I MOST DEFINITELY WILL WITH JOY AND HOPE.
MR. HAYES DOESN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE NOT TO SPEAK ABOUT, SIR? LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.
WELL, THIS WILL BE A FIRST TAKE NOTES ON, I WOULD JUST LIKE YOUR RECORDS DRESS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU FOR THE RECORD THAT DURING THE LAST TWO YEARS, UH, WHEN IT LOOKED LIKE I WAS ROLLING MY EYES, I WAS ONLY LOOKING AT THE CEILING THERE.
AND WHEN IT LOOKED LIKE I WAS SLEEPING, I WAS ONLY PRAYING THAT THE MEETING WOULD BE OVER.
SO, UH, ANYWAY, UM, ANYWAY, I JUST WENT, TELL Y'ALL THAT IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO COVER Y'ALL THE LAST TWO YEARS, NOT MANY BORING MOMENTS AND, UH, I'VE ENJOYED IT AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'VE DONE A REAL GOOD JOB SOMETIMES.
MOST OF THAT I'VE SEEN ON TV SHOWS ABOUT THE CORNERS THAT YOU REALLY DID REAL WELL AND GET TO THE SOURCE OF YOUR AND
IF SLEEP APNEA, DOESN'T GET THE FIRST
I'M GOING TO GREENSBORO AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
NORMALLY PEOPLE WOULD SAY YOU DID A GREAT JOB IF YOU THROW A SOFT BALLS, BUT YOU DIDN'T REALLY THROW US TOO MANY SOFT BALLS.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE BEGRUDGINGLY TAMMANY.
VERY ACCURATE COVERED VERY AFTER.
THAT'S WHAT I REALLY LIKED ABOUT THE COMPANY, UH, REFERENCE RECOMMENDATION OR WHATEVER.
I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO PUT THE MAYOR ON MY
MR. MAYOR, MR. CRUZAN, JOEL, I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.
AND AS THE NEW KID ON THE JUNIOR ALDERMAN, YOU HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD TO ME, UH, BETTER THAN HE DESERVED ANYTHING THAT YOU SAID OR PUT IN THE PAPER.
I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT WAS ALL FAVORABLE FOR ME.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE FOUND OUT GOING TO SOME OF THESE CONFERENCES THAT YOU, UH, YOU REPORTED ON IS THAT THERE'S A SESSION HOW TO DEAL WITH THE MEDIA.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM HERE, ESPECIALLY WITH YOU.
YOU DID A GOOD JOB AND IT WAS ALL ACCURATE AND WE WISH YOU GODSPEED AND THE BEST OF LUCK AND ANYTHING YOU SAID YOU TRY TO DO.
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THERE'S THIS MAIN NO MORE 7:00 AM PHONE CALLS TO FIND OUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE NIGHT BEFORE.I THINK THE ONE THING OF ALL THE TIME THAT BILL CHRIS ENZO, THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT HAVE FASCINATED ME AND HE'S GONE.
HE WON'T HEAR THESE UNTIL HE MAYBE HEARS IT ON THE TELEVISION BROADCAST.
NUMBER ONE IS THAT WE ALL, WHEN HE CAME HERE AS A REPORTER, FIGURED WE HAD A FELLOW FROM A LOT FURTHER NORTH COMING DOWN HERE WITH A NAME LIKE BILL CHRIS ENZO, AND THEN FOUND THAT HE'S A SOUTHERN BOY BORN AND RAISED IN EDEN, NORTH CAROLINA.
THE SECOND WAS THE SHOCK ON HIS FACE WHEN IT SUDDENLY OCCURRED TO HIM FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT HIS NAME WAS ACTUALLY BILLY BOB, CHRIS, ENZO, WILLIAM, ROBERT, CHRIS, HE'S A BILLY BOB.
THAT'S THE NEXT BEST THING TO BE IN A BUBBA.
YOU'VE GOT TO TELL MIKE ONE THING.
AND IT MIGHT CAUSE THAT YOU, IS THAT ME THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO EXPLAIN.
NO ONE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ANNEXATION HERE OR ANNEXATION REQUEST.
NOW I'M MOVING TOWARDS THE PUP TO HEAR A SECOND.
NEXT THING IS NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARING
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO EXPLAIN? I HOPE SO.
AND, UH, BERNARD MIGHT JOIN IN HERE A LITTLE BIT ON THE, UH, DETAILS, UH, HAVE A, UH, POLARIZE MATTHEW SHOWING, UH, OR THREE ORDINANCES, UH, THIS EVENING UNDER THAT ONE HEADING THE WORST.
WHEN THE DEALS WITH FOOD BLOCKS ALONE, HIGHWAY 17, SOUTH, UH, THIS IS THE ENTRANCE INTO THE QUEENS SCHOOL LIFE.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO AREAS, UH, DIRECTLY CALL SOME SCHOOLS ACROSS THE STREET.
BERNARD IS HANDING OUT, UH, COLORADO, UH, RECOMMENDING, UH, FROM SEA TO SEA.
THAT'S AN INCREASE IN THE C3 AREA THERE FROM ABOUT 15 OR 16 ACRES TO ABOUT SIX IN THE AREA RECOMMENDED THERE ARE SIX.
AND THEN THE THIRD ITEM YOU SEE ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, UH, IS AN AREA OF SAFETY THAT IS RECOMMENDED.
THOSE ARE THE THREE SECTIONS OF PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL BACKGROUND ON THAT.
UM, WE RECEIVED TWO RESIGNING REQUESTS JUST INITIALLY IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UH, FOR REZONING ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF 17, UM, TO REZONE SOME PROPERTY, UH, C3 A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, UH, TO ALLOW A BUSINESS, TO BE ESTABLISHED AND ALSO TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 120 ACRES NORTH OF AN ADJACENT TO, UH, THE, AN LANDS PROPERTY, UH, TO OUR SIX TO ALLOW A MOBILE HOME SUBDIVISION, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD TABLED THAT REQUESTED
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HIS DECEMBER 97 MEETING AND REQUESTED THAT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BE PUT TOGETHER FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PIECEMEAL APPROACH TO ZONING DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE ALONE 17 AND CONCERNED ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ZONING LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION, UH, IN THE AREA THAT WOULD SERVE THAT.
UH, IN RESPONSE TO THAT, A MEETING WAS HAILED ON JANUARY THE 13TH WITH SOME OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY PRESENT, UH, OFFICIALS FROM NCD O T CRAVEN COUNTY SCHOOL, BOARD RESIDENTS, AND TOM RICHTER, CHIEF PLANNER FOR THE EASTERN OFFICE OF DIVISION OF COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE THAT WERE IN HELPED FACILITATE THE MEETING, UH, AFTER ABOUT FOUR HOURS.
UH, WE CAME UP WITH THE PLAN THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING, THAT THE, UM, WELL, THIS IS ACTUALLY A PORTION OF THE PLAN, UH, DEALING WITH THE RECOMMENDED ZONING IN THE AREAS.
UH, THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AT THE FEBRUARY 3RD, 1998 MEETING.
AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED THE PLAN THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU HERE, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE BOARD.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, UH, IT ENCOMPASSES IN THE FIRST ORDINANCE HERE, A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE C3 AREA ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF 17, UH, SOMEWHERE IN THE AREA OF APPROXIMATELY 50 ACRE INCREASE IN THE C3 THERE, IT ALSO RECOMMENDS THAT, UH, THE AREA I FIGURED IT ABOUT 80 PLUS, I THINK THAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS A HUNDRED PLUS OR MINUS, UH, ACRES ADJACENT TO THE C3 TO BE RESOLVED FROM THE FORESTRY, UH, CLASSIFICATION TO OUR SIX AND THAT'S TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT THAT WOULD BE IN ORDER TO ALLOW MANUFACTURER HOUSING, UH, SUBDIVISION, UH, IS THE PARTICULAR USE THAT'S IN MIND AT THIS TIME.
UH, BUT OUR SIX IS, UM, OUR DENSEST RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
IT ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY AND MANUFACTURED HOUSING, UH, UH, IN ADDITION TO SINGLE-FAMILY AND DUPLEX THE AREA AROUND IT NOW, UH, A PORTION OF THE AREA TO THE EAST AND SOUTH OF IT COMING BACK INTO TOWN INTO THE SOUTH IS CURRENTLY OUR SIX.
SO IT'S, IT'S A BUDDING AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUR SIX AND THERE'S SOME, OUR TAN AND A FIVE FORESTRY AROUND IT ALSO.
AND ACROSS THE STREET, THEY WANT THE OTHER TWO LIGHTS ARE 15, WHICH WOULD TIE YOU WITH HAYWOOD.
BOB SAYS TO ME, THAT'S CORRECT.
THE THIRD ITEM IS APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES ON THE SOUTH SIDE IS CURRENTLY ZONED C3 THAT, THAT, UH, BE REZONED TO OUR 15.
AND THOSE WERE THE THREE ZONING ISSUES.
THERE ARE SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT CAME OUT OF THE MEETING ABOUT THE LOCATION OF BOSCH BOULEVARD AND SO FORTH THAT, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING BEFORE THE BOARD AT A LATER DATE, MAYBE A GOOD THING FOR A WORK SESSION, BUT THOSE WERE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS RELATIVE TO THESE THREE TRACKS OF LAND.
AND THE THREE ORDINANCES THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, MIKE, WHERE ARE YOU GOT THE TWO GREEN SECTION THAT THEY WANT ZONE ARE CHANGED, ARE 15 WHAT'S ON EACH SIDE OF THE, UH, AS FAR AS IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL, IT, UH, UH, IT WOULD REMAIN ZONE COMMERCIAL ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT.
UM, FOR THE MOST PART, UH, RIGHT NOW IT IS, UM, BOTTOM LAND HARDWOODS AND, UH, FOREST SWAMP AREA THERE ALONG THE ROAD.
AND THEN IT RISES THE LOW STRAIN DRAINAGE AREA BACK BEHIND HAYWOOD FARMS. IT'S A PORTION OF THAT CANDIDATE, UM, LIVE SLIGHTLY OUTSIDE THE CITY AT 3,400 WINDS DRIVE, BUT I DO HAVE MY OFFICE IN YEAR ONE.
AND MR. RAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZE ME.
I ACTUALLY, I WASN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING.
I WAS THINKING, COMING DOWN HERE THE NIGHT, WHAT STORY MIGHT I TELL OF HUMOR? BUT I REALIZED AFTER THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE THAT, UM, IT JUST DIDN'T STOP HERE.
I SAW MYSELF ON TELEVISION AND THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF, AND YOU'VE ASKED ME TO COMMENT.
ROBERT WAS ABOUT THE GUY WHO WENT TO A RESTAURANT AND HE WENT IN,
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HE DIDN'T HAVE A TOWEL ON, AND HE, UM, STOPPED BY THE HEAD OF THE RESTAURANT SAID, YOU CAN'T COME IN HERE WITHOUT A TIE.AND HE SAID, WELL, I DON'T HAVE ONE AND SAID, WELL, GO BACK AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET, ONCE WE GOES BACK TO YOUR CAR AND HE CAN'T FIND A THING IN HIS CAR.
SO HE FINALLY SEES HIS TRUNK PAY A JUMPER CABLES.
SO HE WRAPPED HIM AROUND HIS NECK AND TIED THEM INTO A FORM OR NOT.
AND HE CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, THIS BE ALL RIGHT.
AND THE MAITRE D SAID, YEAH, THAT'S FINE, BUT SAID, LET ME TELL YOU ONE THING, DON'T START NOTHING IN HERE.
SO WITH THAT, I DON'T WANT TO START ANYTHING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, KATE, DO YOU HAVE ANY CASES GOING AGAINST HIM OR SOMETHING? WELL, ACTUALLY I LOOK UP ROBERT SOMETIMES.
ANYWAY, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO START ANYTHING HERE, UH, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WANTING TO GO OUT THERE AND BUILD THESE HOMES, WHO'VE MADE A PRESENTATION BEFORE AND JOHN HAYNES IS HERE, IS MOST ANXIOUS.
IN FACT, WE'RE AFRAID TO DON'T GO AND DO SOMETHING.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT THE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH IS AREA ON BOTH SIDES OF WHERE THE OLD HAYWOOD FARMS HAS NOW BEEN CLOSED, WHICH HAS CLOSED SINCE THIS ALL STARTED.
UM, ACTUALLY TO ME, THAT LOOKS LIKE ZONING SITUATION.
UM, YOU ASK ABOUT WHAT WAS THE ZONING, UM, EVERYTHING FROM BASICALLY THE EDGE OF TOWN OR WHAT USED TO BE THE EDGE OF TOWN.
WHEN A FEW OF US WERE GROWING UP OUT NOW TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCHOOL IS RESIDENTIAL.
I MEAN, IT'S COMMERCIAL, EXCUSE ME.
AND YOU ARE PUTTING A RESIDENTIAL SICK SECTION IN THE MIDDLE OF A, UM, COMMERCIAL SECTION.
AND IF YOU HAD A, A, UM, A RESIDENTS THAT CAME IN AND SAID, PUT A COMMERCIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, YOU WOULDN'T DO IT.
AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE YOU DO IT.
BUT IF IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU ACCEPTING THE OVERALL PLAN, UM, I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT OBJECT TO IT NOW, BUT I WOULD RAISE A QUESTION BACK.
BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU, ROBERT, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.
AND, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, JUST TO ANSWER THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXTENSION OF RESIDENTIAL, ALL RESIDENTIAL, BUT THAT THAT'S FINE.
IT'S BEEN LOOKED AT BOTH WAYS ON THE BACKSIDE.
UM, MOVE IT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I WENT CALL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
I JUST HAVE SOMETHING I WANT TO ASK.
MIKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PUBLIC HEARING.
IF I MAY MAKE ONE CONTACT,
ON THE SOUTH SIDE, YOU SEE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES.
ONE OF THE TRACKS BEING PROPOSED FOR REZONING AND STATED HE WAS AT THE MEETING ON JANUARY 13TH, HE WAS ON AGREEMENT FOR THE PLAN.
HE STATED HIS ONLY CONCERN WAS THE AR 15 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
I THINK ALL OF YOU RECOGNIZE WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE IT CALL YOUR ATTENTION, MAKE A HIGHWAY SUCH AS THIS SHOULD NOT BE A ZONE OR 15, BUT NO ONE IS GOING TO BILL A US HIGHWAY 17 STOP ACT BROUGHT A COPY OF A CASE THAT CAME DOWN AND WHICH COURT OF APPEALS SAID COULD NOT CHANGE A PATIENT'S BROUGHT AT THE REQUEST OF OWNERS.
THEY DIDN'T WANT A MANUFACTURED HOME OR MOBILE HOME PARK CLOSE BY MERELY ON THE BASIS OF TAKING THE EXPRESSIONS ON THE AREA THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT A MOBILE HOME PARK NEARBY.
I WILL TELL YOU THIS AS YOUR ATTORNEY, THAT IF THIS WILL CHALLENGE, UH, GIVING US SOME LEGAL ADVICE, ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE THAT PAY WITH FOREIGN WAS NOT THE INSTIGATOR OF THIS CHANGE.
IT WAS THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS SET UP TO THE PLANNING FOLKS AND THE FILING AND ZONING BOARD TO LOOK AT GLAND NEWS, UH, PORSCHE THIS THING.
AND WHEN I MET WITH THE PEOPLE THAT HATE THE FARM, THAT THEY ARE NOT OBJECTING TO THE CHANGES ACROSS THE ROAD, BUT THEY HAVE, THEY ARE TICKLED TO DEATH TO HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL AT THE END OF THEIR ROAD.
AND SO NATURALLY I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPORT THIS.
AND I FEEL LIKE IT WAS NOT A SITUATION NOW, SUCH AS THAT YOU MENTIONED IN THERE THAT WAS DONE
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BY THE, AH, ACTUALLY BEFORE WE CLOSED THE HERE, THE FOLKS FROM HAYWARD FARMS ARE HERE AND I DISCUSSED THIS WITH THEM BEFORE THE MEETING AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION TO THIS, THEN FINE, BUT LET IT GO.IF, IF THERE IS OPPOSITION, THEN THEY SPEAK.
SO REALLY I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY OPPOSITION THAT SAID IT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
SO THEN I'LL, I'LL GO ALONG WITH RETINA.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDER.
ALL THREE, THREE EMOTIONS ARE OKAY.
BY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, YES.
MR. WARD IN LIGHT OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID, UH, WHAT WOULD BE OUR RECOURSE IF LEGALLY CHALLENGED COMMERCIAL? I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE ONLY THING WE COULD RESOLVE IT.
IF IT WAS LINKED TO CHALLENGE
WE ADOPTED THE SECOND ORDINANCE AND ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT.
THIS IS THE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
OH, NOW, NOW, NOW MIKE, WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT OF THE MOBILE HOMES AND EVERYTHING I HAVE, I'D LIKE A LITTLE CLARIFICATION AND YOU MAY WANT TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW, SOMETIME HE MAY NOT WANT TO GO INTO THE GREAT DETAIL THEN DO WE HAVE JUST, WHAT IS OUR ZONING SITUATION IN THE CITY OF NEWBURN RIGHT NOW, PERTAINING TO WHAT WE WOULD, WHAT WOULD GENERALLY BE REFERRED TO AS TRAILER PARKS AND WHAT WOULD BE REFERRED TO AS MODULAR HOME DEVELOPMENTS? NOW, WE ALL KNOW THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS CHANGE IN WHAT USED TO BE TRAILERS AND THEN MOBILE HOMES AND NOW MODULAR HOMES.
AND THEY'RE HARD TO SPOT SOMETIMES HAVE VERY DIFFICULT TO SPOT.
SOMETIMES, AND MANY DEVELOPMENTS ARE BEING MADE WITH HALF ACRE, ONE ACRE, LOTS, AND THEY LOOK GOOD.
AND I'VE SEEN THEM IN PALM SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA, WHERE YOU CAN'T BUY ONE OF THE LOTS WITH THE TRAILER OR WITH A MODULAR HOMEOWNER FOR A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS.
DO WE IN NEWBURN HAVE DIFFERENT ZONES OF THAT TYPE OR NOT? UH, IS THIS GOING TO BE A LONG ANSWER? SO YOU CAN ANSWER ME LATER BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY BEARING ON THIS.
IT JUST, IT JUST TRIPPED MY MIND THERE.
I'LL, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER IT BRIEFLY, BUT IT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO BE DISCUSSING OVER THE NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES IN TECHNOLOGY, MANUFACTURING TECHNIQUES THAT HAVE GREATLY LESSEN THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT WE TRADITIONALLY REFER TO AS A TRAILER AND A MODULAR HOME, A MODULAR HUNG.
THERE, THERE ONE FIRST THERE'S MANUFACTURED HOUSING.
I BREAK THAT INTO TWO GROUPS MODULAR, WHICH IS BUILT TO NORTH CAROLINA STATE BUILDING CODES AND THE ONES THAT ARE BUILT TO HUD STANDARDS.
THE ONES THAT ARE BUILT TO HUD STANDARDS CAN GO IN MOBILE, HOME PARKS AND AN
THE ONES THAT ARE BUILT TO NORTH CAROLINA STATE BUILDING CODE CAN GO ANYWHERE IN ANY ZONE OF THE CITY.
SO JUST BECAUSE A HOUSE COMES IN IN FOUR PIECES AND IT'S PUT TOGETHER, IT'S A MODULAR, AS LONG AS IT MEETS STATE BUILDING CODE, IT CAN GO IN ANY ZONE.
NOW, LIKE I SAID, THE MATERIALS, THE ENGINEERING AND EVERYTHING IS CHANGING,
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AND IT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD, UH, LATER IN THE YEAR, PROBABLY TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN HOW WE ADDRESS MANUFACTURED HOUSES AND, AND WHAT WE MIGHT NEED TO DO TO CHANGE, TO MEET TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGES IN THE INDUSTRY.WHEN I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT, BUT I HAD BEEN ON MY MIND FOR SOME TIME THAT THERE ARE SOME TRAILER PARKS, AND I'M NOT SAYING IN THE CITY OF NEWBURN, BUT THERE ARE SOME, WE'VE ALL SEEN THEM HERE AND THERE, WHICH ARE SERIOUS PROBLEMS FOR POLICE ENFORCEMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THE HOMES, ALTHOUGH MANUFACTURED AND MOVE THERE AND ASSEMBLE ART ARE BEAUTIFUL.
AND I WAS, I WAS CONCERNED THAT OUR LAWS THAT I, THAT ARE, THAT OUR REGULATIONS MIGHT BE BECOMING OUTDATED IN SOME WAY.
AND I DIDN'T WANT THAT TO SNEAK UP AND HIT US UNEXPECTEDLY.
THE LEAGUE HAS LAKE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE ORGANIZATION WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE FOLKS WITH THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING INSTITUTE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR A GOOD MANY YEARS ON THAT ISSUE.
AND LIKE I SAID, THIS ONE WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
OR, UM, MR. FLORA, OH, THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CARED BEFORE THE CITY ATTORNEY.
AND IT'S A SITUATION THAT WE HAVE WE'RE IN TIMES PAST, WE'VE HAD MANY PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WOULD COME INTO OUR OFFICE THAT WOULD BE SEEKING A MOBILE HOME PERMIT TO SET THAT MOBILE HOME UP.
AND FOR THEM TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH, HAVE TO GO THROUGH SEVERAL HOOPS THAT THEY HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH.
AND THE AVERAGE INDIVIDUAL THAT COMES INTO OUR OFFICE DOES NOT KNOW ALL THOSE HOOPS THAT THEY HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH AND THEY BECOME VERY FRUSTRATED.
HOWEVER, WE DO KNOW THAT THE MOBILE HOME DEALERS, MANY TIMES THEY KNOW WHAT THOSE HOOPS ARE AND WHERE THEY NEED TO JUMP AND WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN A PERMIT.
AND IT, IT, IT HAS SEEMED IN TIMES PAST AS IF ALL THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS GETTING SOMEONE TO SIGN THEIR NAME ON THE DOTTED LINE.
AND THEN THEY COME IN AND THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR PERMITS AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE HOOPS THAT THEY HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH.
SO WHAT I HAVE ASKED MR. WARD TO DO IS DROP AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE MOBILE HOME DEALER OR THE SETUP CONTRACTOR TO COME IN AND OBTAIN ALL THE PERMITS THAT WOULD BE ON THE BUILDING PERMIT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS MOBILE HOME TO BE SET UP IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
THEN THAT WOULD TAKE JOHN KEY PUBLIC.
AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH MANY TIMES JUST TO LAYER.
I MOVED THIS ORDINANCE BE ABOUT, I THINK IT'S MORE HOUSEKEEPING THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
MAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT I WOULD MOVE THAT THE REMAINING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE A DOCTOR? YES, YES, YES.
UH, MAYOR NUMBER 10, UH, A PLANNING GROUP IS FOUND ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH THIS THAT THEY NEED TO ADDRESS THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PACKAGE.
SO IT'D BE, RE-INTRODUCED EITHER TO WORK SESSION OR THE NEXT MEETING FOR DISCUSSION.
FIRST, DOES ANYBODY HAVE YOUR PHONES? HE DOES.
THEY TRYING TO TELL ME NOT TO DO BLACK.
I, YOU KNOW, I REALLY THINK THIS IS OKAY.
BEFORE IT COMES TO I'LL LISTEN, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THIS LETTER? MS. MS. JOHNSON, CAN WE SUPPOSED TO ADOPT THIS? I LET HER MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE CIVIL
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SERVICE.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
HE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE ANOTHER WALL IF HE WANTED TO DO.
AND HE HAD IT NOW BACK TO $13,000, THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO MEET
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE A BID TO INCREASE THAT $5,500.
SO WHAT DO WE NEED? WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US MORE TO PROCEED MOTION MUCH OUR SEC, AND THEN FURTHER DISCUSSION NOW, TOM.