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UH, RABBI STEVE BATS OR TABERNACLE BAPTIST CHURCH.

I DON'T THINK HE'S HERE TONIGHT.

SO, DANNY, DO YOU MIND DOING FOLLOW ME? THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE.

WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS BUSINESSES.

THE CITY ASKED FOR GOD, YOU WOULD GUIDE ALL THE DELIBERATIONS TONIGHT AND ALL IS SAID AND DONE.

PRAY THAT GOD, IT MIGHT BE DONE TO THAT IN ORDER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY, PROBABLY FOR EACH ONE WHO HAS A CAR, IT WOULD HELP US TO WORK TOGETHER OR WOULD HELP US TO SEE EACH OTHER'S POINTS AND GO FOR ONE, OR DO WHAT YOU'D HAVE US TO DO TONIGHT.

WE DO WANT TO REMEMBER OUR NATION AND OUR COUNTRY.

GOD IS WE'RE FACED WITH THE TRIALS THAT WERE BEFORE US ASTORIA LESSONS ON THE LEADERSHIP, OUR NATION AND LORD, FOR THOSE WHO WENT ALL THE WAY WE ASK WHAT PROTECTION WILL GO WITH US TONIGHT AND KEEP US, OR BLESS OUR CITY THAT WE MIGHT GROW IN AND DO YOUR PRECIOUS, WHICH WAS IN CHRIST NAME, RIGHT? YEAH.

PLEASE.

MA'AM HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.

FIRST THING WE HAVE AT NIGHT IS THE MONTHLY, UH, REQUEST AND PETITIONS OF CITIZENS.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK UP JUST ON AN OPEN TOPIC OR WHATEVER, IF YOU DO RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANYBODY HERE, BUT THAT SAID, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS THE PRESENTATION OF THE GOLDEN BEAR AWARD, UH, RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY TO MICHAEL S MANETTE.

I THINK WE HAVE SOMEBODY TO COME FORTH AND EXPLAIN THAT AND HE'D COME TO THE MICROPHONE.

THANK YOU, RICK.

JUST EXCITEMENT ABOUT THIS IS A GOLDEN BELL AND THIS IS ALSO A .

MIKE, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE ADDRESS IS? SO WE CAN GO BY AND ENJOY IT? YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LIVE HERE ALL THE TIME, YOU GET SORT OF USED TO THE WAY TO PLAY'S LIT YOU CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT ALL THE TIME THEY COME IN HERE, WE APPRECIATE IT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANY WORDS, MIKE, WHY DO YOU HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WE HAVE, WE HAVE MADE THAT OFFER BEFORE AND PEOPLE TAKE US ON AND THE SUN OUT IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT THING IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CLOSE OUT THE 1997 CDBG UN GRANT, THE 1998 VRI GRANT AND DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL USE OF EXCESS FUNDS.

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ALL RIGHT.

UM, THERE'S A COPY OF MY NOTES IN YOUR PACKAGE AND I WILL JUST BRIEFLY GET THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THOSE.

UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS, COMMENTS WITH THE MAY, IF THAT'S AN OKAY THING, WE'LL RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ALL OF THESE ISSUES, IF THAT'S OKAY.

AND THEN THERE IS ACTUALLY LISTED ON THE SHEET IN THE 1997 VERSION DATES PROGRAM, WE PROJECTED APPROXIMATELY $106,000 FOR MAINE POLICE USE OF THOSE ACTIVITIES OF THE STAFF HAS LOOKED INTO OUR NEEDS AS FAR AS OUR DISASTER PROGRAMS, WHICH ARE IN PROGRESS AND WRAP IT UP AND WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ACQUIRE ONE BLOCK PAVING TOWN AREA, WHICH WAS WHERE THIS, THIS PROGRAM WITH APPROXIMATELY $7,500, AND THEN USE THE BALANCE OF THIS MONEY TO SUPPLEMENT THE FUNDS DESIGNATED IN WOODWARD APPROPRIATELY KNEW I WOULD RUN A PROGRAM, MAY HAVE SOME SHORTFALLS.

SO WE'D LIKE TO USE IT PRIMARILY TO WIRE CAN CLEAR TO PROXIMATE AND RELOCATE TO MANAGE THE 1998 DRI PROGRAM.

THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT RIGHT NOW IS BEING USED ALSO TO SUPPLEMENT THE WOODROW ELEVATION PROGRAM.

IT NEEDS TO BE SPENDING CLOSE DOWN.

WE HAVE THE PLAN TO DO THAT.

I'M RUNNING INTO A LITTLE DIFFICULTY, BUT I THINK WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT.

DIFFICULT.

IT BE EXTENDED BY DECEMBER 31ST.

I MIGHT HAVE A PROTOCOL AMENDMENT ON JUST ANY POSSIBLE CHANGE WE MIGHT DO.

IF WE FIND IN DECEMBER AMENDMENT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROTOCOL AMENDMENT OF THE TIME I PUBLIC HEARING.

BY THE TIME WE ADVERTISE IT, PUBLIC HEARING PUBLISHING, ET CETERA, IT TAKES THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.

SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE RECEIVED COMMENT, ONLY POTENTIAL VRI AMENDMENT.

THEY WERE ALSO REQUIRED AT THE END OF EACH PROGRAM TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT CLOSE OUT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THERE LISTED THE ACTIVITIES FROM THEIR NATURE PROGRAM, LOCATION AND ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY, BABY DOWN AND IN THE 1998 YARD PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD ELEVATE THE UNITS, REHABBING UNITS.

WE LOCATED ON FAMILIES.

SO THAT'S VERY BRIEF SYNOPSIS.

I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUB WITH WANTING TO COMMENT ON THE LAST DAY, RAISE YOUR HAND AND WANT INVITE YOU TO COME UP.

NOBODY MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUB HERE SAID NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

UM, UNDER THE INTERACTION AND NEEDED, THERE ARE TWO ITEMS WHICH WE WOULD REQUEST ACTION UP HERE.

THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE AUTHORIZED SUBMISSION TO THE PROGRAM AMENDMENT.

THE 1997 URGENT NEEDS PROGRAM.

THE SECOND ACTION, WE WOULD NEED TO AUTHORIZE SOMEONE WITH THAT.

BEING THE MAYOR, THE MANAGER, OR SOME OTHER PARTY TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT.

IF WE NEED ONE BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER 31ST FOR THE 1998, THE FIRST ONE IS TO DO WHAT NOW TO AUTHORIZE A SUBMISSION OF THE PROGRAM AMENDMENT, THE 1997 URGENT NEEDS PROGRAM.

HOLD IT RIGHT THERE.

SO MOVE IN BOTH OF THESE BEHIND THE SAME MOTION OR THEY HAVE TO BE SEPARATE SECOND KIND OF POINTS ON THE NEXT STEP.

OKAY.

ASK ME.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT, WE NEED TO CALL THE ROLL ON THAT ONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.

ISN'T IT.

AND THEN THE SECOND ACTION NEEDED WOULD BE TO AUTHORIZE SOMEONE, WHETHER IT BE MAY HAVE THE MANAGERS, THE, A PARTY TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT FOR 98 PROGRAM PRI PROGRAM.

BEFORE I MOVE, WE ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE SECOND.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE.

THIS TAKEN CARE OF YOU UP FOR THE DISCUSSION NOW CONSENTED THEM.

IF NOT, PLEASE.

MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT THING IS UPON ONCE MR. MACK.

NO, SIR.

I DON'T HAVE ANY FREE, SIR, RIGHT? NO, SIR.

THAT'S THE LENGTH.

I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME MISCELLANEOUS.

IT'S A MESS.

THE MAC MADIGAN.

WELL, I WAS GOING TO SAY MY COMMENTS UNTIL DECEMBER WHEN WE WERE SWORN IN AGAIN FROM MY SECOND TERM, THERE YOU GO.

UH, YESTERDAY WAS, UH, A VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR ME.

I WAS REELECTED BASED ON A 10% OF THE VOTE.

UH, I WAS WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER 90%.

UH, WHENEVER I SIT UP HERE AND I MAKE A OR HELP TO MAKE

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A DECISION, I TRY TO DO IT FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT.

I'M GOING TO SERVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF MY COMMUNITY.

I WISH A HUNDRED PERCENT WOULD SUPPORT ME.

I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT TIME AT CIVICS.

1 0 1 SAYS PART OF THE DUTIES OF A CITIZEN IS TO GET OUT AND VOTE.

AND IF YOU'RE 18, I GUESS IT IS.

AND YOU'RE A CITIZEN AND YOU'RE REGISTERED TO VOTE YESTERDAY WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY TO COME OUT AND EXERCISE THAT PRIVILEGE.

AND I WISH MORE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE COME OUT.

NOW I'M GOING TO DO MY DARNDEST FOR THOSE 10% OF THE FOLKS THAT CAME TO, UH, SUPPORT ME, I'M GOING TO SERVE A HUNDRED PERCENT.

I WISH THE, THEY HAD COME OUT TO SUPPORT ME YESTERDAY.

AND FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME HARP ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS A TIME WE ALL SHOWING PATRIOTISM WITH THE SHUTTERFLY, FLYING THE FLAG AND WAVING THE FLAG.

BUT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE LESSON OF ALL.

WE REALLY INTERESTED IN GOOD CITY GOVERNMENT, AND THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING STARTS HERE.

AND I WOULD HAVE APPRECIATED A MUCH LARGER TURNOUT.

I TALKED TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE YESTERDAY AND IT WAS A GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT AND DID EXERCISE THEIR VOTE.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT, UH, I REALLY AM DISAPPOINTED IN THOSE THAT STAYED HOME.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THE REST OF I'LL SAY HIM TO SIM FREE.

WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE POINTS, UH, UH, THE LOW TURNOUT, BECAUSE IT IS A SAD COMMENTARY ON ALL THAT WENT ON IN THIS COUNTRY IN ORDER TO GET THAT VOTE FOR PEOPLE.

IT'S A SHAME THAT NO MAN TURNED UP AND DID, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO FOUGHT FOR THAT RIGHT, ALSO FOUGHT FOR THE RIGHT, FOR YOU TO NOT COME OUT AND VOTE IT AT YOUR CHOICE.

NOBODY CAME TO YOUR HOUSE AND FORTUNATE TO GO OUT AND VOTE.

SO EITHER WAY, IT'S, UH, IT'S AN INDICATION OF THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE.

AND THEY EXPRESS THEM IN THE WAY THAT BEST SUITED THEM.

I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO DID COME OUT TO VOTE.

AND, UH, I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO VOTED FOR ME, ESPECIALLY, BUT GENERALLY JUST THANK THEM FOR COMING OUT TO VOTE.

PERIOD.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT FOUR YEARS ON THIS BOARD.

FIRST ONE, MOST OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD FIRST TOOK THEIR SEATS BACK IN 1985.

THAT'S WHEN THAT'S WHEN A GOOD PORTION OF THE PEOPLE.

AND THEN FOUR YEARS LATER, TWO YEARS LATER, OTHER, A COUPLE OF OTHERS TOOK THEIR SEATS.

WE HAD A MUCH DIFFERENT NEWBURN.

THE DOWNTOWN WAS PRETTY WELL DESERTED OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS IN A COUPLE OF ROOMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF CITY HALL.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, WAS IN A BEAUTIFUL, OLD HISTORIC BUILDING, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE FIRETRUCKS HAD CHANGED WHERE THEY HAD TWO INCHES OF ROOM TO SPARE WHEN THEY CAME OUT AND IT SLOWED THE RESPONSE AND IT CAUSED SOME DAMAGE TO TRUCKS AND THE RIVER WAS A MESS.

AND THE BOARDS OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME CREATED A FOUNDATION UPON WHICH WE NOW HAVE CONSTRUCTED THE NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU'VE HEARD ALL ABOUT IT, BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN A YEAR.

IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN ONE TERM, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

IN TWO TERMS, WE HAD TO WORK HARD TO BUILD A FOUNDATION AND IT TOOK TIME AND IT TOOK THE EFFORTS OF A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND I THANK THOSE WERE SERVED ON THIS BOARD WHO ARE HERE, THOSE WHO ARE NOT HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A WONDERFUL TOWN BECAUSE, UM, THEM AND THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WORKED TO MAKE IT.

SO I, AND IT MAKES IT ALL THE MORE SAD BECAUSE SO FEW PEOPLE DO COME OUT TO VOTE, BUT LIKE I SAY, THE RIGHT NOT TO BE FORCED TO COME OUT AND VOTE FOR SOMEONE IS ALSO PART OF THAT.

RIGHT.

AND THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE A RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO VOTE OR NOT.

THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE DON'T MAN.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT JUST TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S GONE BEFORE.

AND TO THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR WHAT'S GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY THE CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN IN THE FUTURE.

WELL, I, TO THE POINT IT WAS THE TURNOUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, IN ALL THE TIME I'VE BEEN IN POLITICS, THEY SAY 30% OF THE VOTERS TURN OUT.

THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD TURNOUT, WHICH TO ME, YOU KNOW, THAT 70% IS SENT HOME.

AND, UH, AND, UM, I GUESS THAT'S THEIR PRIVILEGE TOO, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, IT WAS AN HONOR TO SERVE BACK ON THE BOARD.

I, I FIRST WOULD AUTOMATE 85 AND, UH, BUT I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL PEOPLE AND THE BEST I CAN UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE SAME BOARD HAS COME BACK.

THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A CHANGE BEFORE THAT SORTA MAKES ME FEEL GOOD.

IT MAKES, IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE THE BOARD, I KNOW, WORKS WELL TOGETHER AND THE PEOPLE COULD NOT COME UP WITH ANY MAJOR ISSUES.

AND SO I BELIEVE THAT'S THE MAIN

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REASON WHY THIS BOARD IS BACK TOGETHER AND I'M GLAD TO SEE IT.

AND THEN, UH, THANK ROSE THAT TURNED OUT TO VOTE.

MR. RAYNE.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY HEARTFELT THANKS TO ALL OF THE BOULDERS IN THE SECOND WARD WHO CAME OUT TO VOTE OF MY REELECTION.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PAST SUPPORT.

AND YOU'RE COMPETENT THAT YOU WILL SHOW UP BY REELECTING ME AND I PROMISE I'LL ALWAYS DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEM AS WELL AS THE CITY, AS A WHOLE.

AND I ALSO WANT IT TO SEND US A SIX SINCERE APPRECIATION TO MY MOTHER CORE RAIN AND MY SISTER, PATRICE RAIN, WHO ALSO HELPED ALL DAY LONG.

THEY REALLY WORKED HARD AND, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM AND TOM AND HIS CREW ALSO, I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, TO SUCCEED.

SO THANK YOU ALL THE VOTERS FAMILY TO, UM, YOUR FAMILY.

AND, UH, I'LL ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING.

THAT'S MY PROMISE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST LIKED THE FACT BOARD MEMBERS FOR THEIR SUPPORT YESTERDAY AND, UM, THE WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND ALSO I JUST THANK THOSE IN THE FIRST WARD.

WELL, THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS AND THE FIRST OF ALL FOR THEIR SUPPORT.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, I'M SORRY THAT GET A LARGE TURNOUT, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T TURN OUT MYSELF AND THIS BOARD WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE THOSE WHO DIDN'T TURN OUT AND, UH, AND THAT'S JUST WHAT WE ALL ABOUT.

UH, BUT WE ARE HOPING THAT, UH, IF THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS, UH, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THOSE CONCERNS JUST LIKE WITHIN THE DOC I'VE DONE IN THE PAST 12 YEARS.

AND I HOPE THAT, UH, ISSUES THAT ARE, UH, THAT I MAY NOT AGREE ON, AND YOU MAY NOT AGREE ON WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WILL TEAR OUT LINES OF COMMUNICATION APART BECAUSE ALL OF US ARE DIFFERENT.

ALL OF THE, SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY, BUT WHATEVER'S DONE IS GOING TO BE DONE FOR THE GOOD OF THE MASSES AND FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

ONCE AGAIN, THANK THE FIRST BOARD FOR THEIR SUPPORT MAYOR.

I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE COMMENT, BUT I'M LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT SAID FROM SOME CIRCLES AND, AND, AND PEOPLE THAT HAD APPROACHED THE POLLS YESTERDAY ABOUT TERM LIMITS.

AND I MADE A TALK AT THE LIBRARY ABOUT, UH, WHY I DID WHAT I DID ON THE TERM UNTIL I LEFT ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING OUT AT THE TIME THAT I WAS PUSHING INTO A MEMBER LATE TERM LIMIT, I HAD OUR CITY MANAGER TO CHECK THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO SEE WHAT CITIES HAD TERM LIMITS ON THE MAYOR.

AND THE BEST I RECALL IS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

BILL JACKSONVILLE AND NEWMAN WAS THE ONLY TWO CITIES THAT HAD A RESTRICTION, A TERM LIMIT ON THEIR MAYOR OR IN THE BOARD MEMBERS.

MY STRONG BELIEF IS, AND I'VE TOLD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE DURING THIS TIME IS THAT NO GOVERNING BODY AND FOOD IN THIS, ONCE YOU SET A RESTRICTION ON A VOTER, THE DEVOTED DOESN'T LIKE ANY MEMBER OF ANY BOARD, THEY HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO VOTE HIM OUT.

THEY ALSO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO KEEP HIM IN IF THEY WANT TO.

AND IF THEY WANT TO KEEP A PERSON IN FOR A THIRD OR FOURTH TIME, AND WE'VE RESTRICTED THEM INVEST TAKING THAT PRIVILEGE AWAY FROM.

AND SO THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WHY I FEEL LIKE, AND I, AND I'M AGAINST TERM LIMITS FOR THAT PARTICULAR REASON.

AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, UH, IT WASN'T DONE JUST FOR THE MAYOR OR ANYBODY ELSE.

I DID THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.

AND, UH, SO I JUST WANTED MAINLY FOR THE RECORD, PUT THAT STRAIGHT IN THERE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THE TERM LIMIT BUSINESS, I WAS EXPLAINING TO SOME FOLKS THE OTHER DAY THAT, UH, FIRST THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW, BUT THE SECOND THING WAS IT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNTRY WASN'T FOUNDED ON TERM LIMITS BECAUSE THEY, ULTIMATE POWER WAS ALWAYS WITH THE PAINT.

PEOPLE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG A PERSON STAYED OR IF HE STAYED OR WHATEVER.

AND THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU CAN MAKE IN THAT CAUSES TWO THINGS TO COME ABOUT.

AND THAT IS LET'S PRETEND FOR AN EXAMPLE THAT YOU HAD THE ULTIMATE, UH, PERSON IN OFFICE, I GUESS, WOULD BE SOLOMON IN BIBLICAL TERMS. AND IF THERE WAS A TERM LIMIT ON SOLOMON AND SOLOMON HAD TO GO OUT, AND THE ONLY PERSON THAT FILED FOR SOLOMON'S JOB WAS THE VILLAGE IDIOT.

AND HE'S THE ONLY PERSON.

AND HE VOTES FOR HIMSELF WHAT A SWAP THAT IS.

AND THE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO SIT THERE AND HELPLESSLY WATCH SUCH A THING TAKE PLACE.

NOW, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE EXTREMES OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE SPECTRUM OF THE SMARTEST GUY.

YOU ASKED HIM THE LEAST SMARTEST IN THE VILLAGE, BUT THE POINT BEING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE THE ULTIMATE CHOICE OF, OF WHETHER SOMEBODY STAYED OR NOT.

THE OTHER THING THAT PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE IS THE SERIOUSNESS OF THESE ELECTED OFFICES, STATE, LEGISLATURE, UH, THE BOARD OF ALL OF THEM, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, WHATEVER AT PEOPLE REALLY LOOKED AT CIVICS.

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AND THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT HUGE CHANGES THAT THESE PEOPLE CAN MAKE IN THEIR LIVES AND THE QUALITY OF THEIR LIFE AND THE WAY THEY LIVE FROM DAY TO DAY, THEY WOULD BE MORE SERIOUS ABOUT GOING TO VOTE AND TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON AND THAT SORT OF THING, THEY, THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.

FOR AN EXAMPLE, I TOLD SOMEBODY THAT IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE, THEY CAN DECLARE THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, NULL AND VOID REMOVED A BOARD OF ALL OF THEM.

THE MAYOR THEN DECLARED IT.

THE CITY OF NEWBURN DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.

AS A CITY, ACTUALLY STATE LEGISLATORS, THAT'S WHAT KIND OF POWER THEY HAVE IN THEIR HANDS.

AND YOU COULD GO ON AND ON.

AND OF COURSE THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND THE MAYOR CAN DO SOME THINGS OR MISHANDLED THINGS TO CAUSE YOU WANT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THE POINT BEING THAT IT'S A SERIOUS BUSINESS.

AND MY ADDITION TO PEOPLE TURNING OUT TO VOTE, LET ME ADD A LITTLE FOOTNOTE TO THAT.

EVERYBODY SHOULDN'T JUST TURN OUT TO VOTE.

EVERYBODY SHOULD BE AN INFORMED VOTER.

YOU JUST GOING TO GO OUT AND PULL THE LEVER.

YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST STAY HOME.

YOU BETTER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, AND I MADE THIS COMMENT IN MY OWN PARTICULAR RACE THAT I REALLY CARED ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE VOTE I GOT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AND NOT THE QUANTITY.

AND I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET BOTH, BUT IF PEOPLE WOULD GO TO THE POLLS AND JUST WITNESS SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO VOTE, IT'S THE MOST INCREDIBLE.

MY KIDS HAVE LEARNED THE LESSON BY GOING INTO POLL.

WHEN YOU SEE SOME, UH, ELDERLY FOLKS, UH, DRAGGING AN OXYGEN BOTTLE, STRUGGLING TO GET UP TO THE SIDEWALK TO PLACE THAT VOTE, BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHO THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR.

AND THEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CANADA TODAY AND CANDIDATE B AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

AND THEY REALIZED THE SERIOUSNESS OF IT.

AND IN A LOT OF CASES, YOU REALIZE THAT THOSE SAME PEOPLE THAT WOULD PULL HIM OXYGEN BOTTLES OF WHATEVER.

YEAH.

THEY WOULD THE SAME ONES THAT FELL OUT AND SAVE THE WORLD, WORLD WAR II AND ALL THAT.

LIKE YOU HEAR ME TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUT THE CAUSE IS NOT LOST.

THERE WAS SOME YOUNG ONES THAT WENT OUT TO, UH, THERE WAS SOME PEOPLE CARRIED BABIES ABOUT THE SIZE OF A LOAF OF BREAD.

I DON'T THINK THEY VOTED, BUT I KNOW THEY WENT IN THERE ANYWAY.

AND, UH, SO IT WASN'T JUST THE OLDER FOLKS, BUT THE POINT IS, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT CARE, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT VOTE, BUT DON'T JUST GO AND VOTE AND SAY, WELL, I VOTED, PLEASE BE INFORMED.

AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR SERIOUSNESS OF THESE OFFICES IN SO FAR AS WHAT EFFECT THEY CAN HAVE ON YOUR LIFE, YOU NEED TO FIND OUT BECAUSE, UH, I KNOW IN THE CASE OF MAYOR, YOU SEE THE OLD PUMPKIN HEAD HAIRCUT AND A FEW REVERENDS HERE IN MY HEAD, SAY IN A FEW WELCOMES AND WHATNOT, AND YOU SEE THESE FOLKS MAKING APPEARANCES HERE AND THERE, AND YOU MAY THINK THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

YOU MIGHT THINK WE COME TO THIS LITTLE CLUB.

I OFTEN SAY A FEW WORDS EVERY NOW AND THEN ON CHANNEL 10 AND DISAPPEAR.

THAT'S THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.

UH, SOME OF YOU OUT THERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, COME FORTH AND OFFER YOURSELVES TO BE ON SOME OF THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU PREPARE YOURSELF TO GET ON THESE BOARDS.

UH, THERE ARE SOME OF US, IT WOULD BE, UH, WE'D LIKE TO GO TO PASTURE ONE OF THESE DAYS.

AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME FOLKS COME UP AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, KINDA EARN THEIR WAY A LITTLE BIT.

AND WE AREN'T EVEN IN THE SENSE THAT THEY, THEY GET A BETTER FEEL FOR BOARDS AND WHAT THE CITY IS ABOUT AND WHAT THE JOB IS ABOUT AND ALL THAT SORT OF BUSINESS.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO A GREAT SERVICE WHERE YOU COUNTRY, THE PEOPLE THAT GO IN THE MILITARY AND FIGHT AND WIN WARS, WE ALL KNOW WHAT GREAT HEROES THEY ARE AND HOW NECESSARY IT IS WITH THE FOUNDING FATHERS.

UNDERSTOOD VERY WELL.

AND WITHOUT IT, PEOPLE SITTING ON THIS SIDE OF THE LITTLE BENCH IN THE PRIVATE SECTION, UH, USELESS TO GO TO WAR FIGHT, THERE'S NOTHING TO COME BACK TO.

SO, UH, IT'S A REAL IMPORTANT DEAL IS MY POINT.

AND I APPLAUD THE PEOPLE THAT CAME FORWARD AT THIS TIME AND RAN OR ANYTIME AND RUNNING.

THAT WAS, IT TAKES A LOT OF INTESTINAL FORWARD IT TO YOU TO GET UP AND RUN FOR OFFICE.

AND, UH, BELIEVE ME, YOU CAN'T MAKE THEM ALL HAPPY.

I HAVE MY RELATIVES TO HELPING ME AT THE POLLS, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, AND DIFFERENT ONES.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MOST FOLKS ARE PRETTY HAPPY TO GO BY, BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN ONE WILL TAKE A SHOUT AT THEM, YOU KNOW, VERBALLY, NOT LITERALLY, BUT, UH, SO I APPLAUD THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE NERVE TO COME FORTH AND RUN.

IF PEOPLE DIDN'T COME FORTH AND RUN, WE'D HAVE NO GOVERNMENT BY DEFINITION, BUT GROUND AND PREPARE YOURSELF.

IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LET US KNOW.

WE'LL PUT YOU ON SOME COMMITTEES AND YOU LEARN WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO BE CAREER POLITICIANS, BUT WE WANT TO FINISH OUR WORK.

SO THAT'S ENOUGH, MR. MUMMY.

I MENTIONED ONE THING I HAVEN'T COMMENTED PUBLICLY ON, ON THE, THIS FORUM ON TERM LIMITS,

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BUT I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER FOR A MOMENT, SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER BEEN MENTIONED UP HERE ABOUT TERM LIMITS.

IT MAKES A NICE BUMPER STICKER, BUT HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED THAT ON EVERY BALLOT, THERE IS A SPACE FOR A RIDE IN THAT FLIES IN THE FACE OF THE IDEA OF TERM LIMITS.

IT'S A CO IT'S A GUARANTEE BY THE GOVERNMENT OF THIS NATION, THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR ANYONE YOU WANT TO, WITHOUT LIMITS, YOU CAN VOTE FOR YOURSELF FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

IF YOU WANT TO, THERE IS A SPACE ON THE BALLOT FOR YOU TO PUT DOWN THE NAME OF THE MAN.

YOU WANT TO BE IN CHARGE THAT YOU WANT TO ELECT.

THAT IS SORT OF THE WAY THE FOUNDERS OF THIS NATION ABSOLUTE PROMISE THE PEOPLE.

THEY WOULD NEVER BE RESTRICTED FROM CASTING A VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT THEY WISH TO CAST THAT VOTE FOR.

ALL RIGHT, WE'VE DONE THAT.

WE'VE DONE THAT.

WE'VE DONE THAT NASTY TURN.

OKAY.

SAY THE MANAGERS REPORT.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING EXCEPT THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SAY, OKAY, DID WE HEAR A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LITIGATION? OKAY.

WANT TO GET THE STATUTE NUMBER? VERONICA, JUST TAG 1 43, 1 43, 3 18 POINT 1183.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT ALL IN.