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OPEN TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH PRAYER BY FACIAL CURTIS BROWN.

IF HE IS PRESENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

NOT WE LAST OUR STAND IN MR. COMMISSIONER, COME UP AND IF YOU WOULD THEN REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I WILL FALL IN LOVE WITH GOD AS WE HUMBLY COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

OH, FATHER ASKED HIM BLESSINGS ON THIS PARTICULAR MEETING WAS THE FATHER.

WE ASK THAT I BLESSED THE OLIVES AND THE BEAVERS SPECIAL WAY, PAUL, TO GIVE THEM THE INSIGHT, HOW TO GO ABOUT PLANNING FOR THIS CITY OR FATHER, LET THEM REALIZE THAT WE ALL ARE SOMEBODY LET THEM REALIZE TONIGHT THAT WE ARE HERE FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL CITIZENS.

WHAT'S THE FATHER GUIDE AND DIRECT THEM IN THE WAY THEY MUST GO.

WE HAVE TO BE ANOTHER BLESSING IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

YEAH.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.

THANK YOU.

I THINK WE'LL, UH, WE'LL GIVE MR. BAYLESS, MR. MAYOR BAYLESS, UNEXCUSED ABSENCE TODAY, UH, MAYOR BAYLESS HAD SOME THROAT SURGERY SATURDAY, AND IT'S NOT ABOUT LIFE-THREATENING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT WILL KEEP HIM FROM BEING ABLE TO TALK TOO MUCH FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

AND I GUESS THAT FOR MAYOR BAYLIS IS QUITE A PROBLEM.

HE IS A VERY OUTGOING GENTLEMAN AND HE DOES ENJOY VISITING WITH PEOPLE DURING THESE MEETINGS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY HE WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS PRESENTATION OF EMPLOYEE SAFETY RECOGNITION CERTIFICATES.

AND WHO HAS IF YOU WOULD READ THEM, THEN I WILL.

OKAY.

THE FIRST AWARD GOES TO THE CITY NEWBURN ELECTRIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, THE SECOND FIFTH CONSECUTIVE YEAR, ALSO THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR THE O AND M DIVISION AND THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR UTILITY SERVICE DIVISION.

MR. POCKET, YOU MAY ALSO WANT TO KNOW THAT THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO RECEIVED RECOGNITION FROM ELECTRICITIES AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC POWER ASSOCIATION FOR AN OUTSTANDING SAFETY RECORD.

AND, UH, ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT HAS NOT HAD A LOST WORK DAY CASE IN AUGUST OF 1990, ABOUT 300,000 HOURS AGO.

AND AGAIN, MR. PUCKETT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

THE NEXT AWARD GOES TO THE CITY OF NEW BERN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, MR. MUSE, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND THE WATER AND SEWER DIVISION FOR THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR AND AGAIN, NOT TO BE, NOT TO BE A WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR SHOWING UP.

I GUESS THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO RECEIVED NATIONAL RECOGNITION FOR THE AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION HAS NOT HAD A LOST WORKDAY CASE SINCE FEBRUARY 24TH, 1996, ABOUT 140,000 HOURS AGO.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

OKAY.

NEXT AWARD GOES TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

YEAH, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT THE SECOND YEAR FOR THE UTILITIES COLLECTION DIVISION AND THE FOURTH CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR THE ACCOUNTING.

THE NEXT AWARD GOES TO THE CITY NEWBURN FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND THIS IS THE THIRD CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR THE CITY OF NEWBERRY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE NEXT AWARD GOES TO THE,

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UH, PLANE INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT, MR. MIKE GABRIEL.

THIS IS THE FOURTH CONSECUTIVE YEAR THAT THE PLANT INSPECTION DEPARTMENT HAS NOT HAD A LOT, HAS NOT HAD A PRETTY MUCH A RECORD WITH A LOT OF WORKDAY.

UH, I WANT TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH.

UH, MIKE, THE LAST LAST WORKDAY CASE WITH THE PLAN INSPECTION DEPARTMENT HAD WAS MAY 13TH, 1992.

AND I'LL TELL YOU IT WAS LATER.

OKAY.

NEXT AWARD IS FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURGH POLICE DEPARTMENT, CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION.

THIS IS THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION VISIT OKAY.

THE NEXT AWARD GOES TO THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, MR. DANNY MEADOWS.

THIS IS THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

OVERALL, THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS STREET DIVISION AND THIRD CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR THE COMPOST FACILITY MAY WANT TO ALSO KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ALSO RECEIVED RECOGNITION FROM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION.

AND DANNY, YOUR LAST WORKDAY CASE WAS MAY 30TH, 1995, ABOUT 335,000 HOURS AGO.

AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

THEN I HAVE THE, UH, CITY UBER RECREATION AND PARKS DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

MR. GARY, SCOTT IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE IF SEE A SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR THE RECREATION AND PARKS DEPARTMENT OVERALL THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR THE MAINTENANCE DIVISION AND THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR FOR THE RECREATION.

ALSO NOTE, UH, THE RECREATION PARKS DEPARTMENT.

IT'S NOT HAD LOST WORKDAY CASE IN SEPTEMBER OF 1995, ABOUT 155,000 HOURS AGO FOR THE BOARD AND THE CITY MANAGER, MR. HARMON.

AND FOR SIR I MENTIONED ALL THE, UH, AND THAT WAS FIGURING OUT ALL THE WARRANTS.

WE ALL HAVE DEPARTMENTS.

I FORGOT.

CAUSE THERE WAS EVEN A REAL BIG DEPARTMENT TO DESERVE THE RECOGNITION.

UH, LAST YEAR, THE CITY OF NEW BERN OVERALL WORKED ABOUT 981,000 HOURS OUT OF THOSE HOURS.

WE ONLY HAD FOUR LAST WORK DAY PATIENT THE ENTIRE YEAR.

AND BY VIRTUE OF THAT, WE WERE AWARDED FROM NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, ONE FOR YOURSELF.

I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE BORDER WALL AND THEY NEVER SEEMED TO GET A SAFETY , UH, INJURY VACATION, AND BROUGHT EACH ONE ON THE BOARD OF ALL OF THEM, A KNIFE, A LITTLE SHOWER NAMELESS AT THIS TIME, OPENED IT AND SAID, IS IT SHARP? SHOWS THAT AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE ALL THE MEMBERS OF MY STATE THAT MADE STAND UP.

THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK TO GET WHERE WE ARE TODAY TO SUPPORT BOTH OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND EVERY OTHER CITY EMPLOYEE.

AND UH, A VERY, VERY PROUD OF MAKE A LITTLE BIT SECOND, I BELIEVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS IF YOU WOULD READ EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS,

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REQUEST AND REQUEST THE CONDITIONS.

THIS IS NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION COMING UP.

IT'LL BE ON IT.

THAT'S COMING ONTO THE BREAD OF THE NIGHT HERE.

YOU CAN COME ON.

OH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THESE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW YOU AND WHAT YOUR POSITION YOU WERE WITH.

JUST THAT BROUGHT UP THE MICROPHONE BECAUSE YOUR WHOLE FRIEND OF THIS CITY, AND WE WANT I'M GARY NIXON, A PRINCIPAL, AN ENGINEERING FIRM OF THINK BIO AND STRIVE IN GREENSBORO.

WE'RE PRIVILEGED TO SERVE THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS IN THE LATE EIGHTIES AND EARLY NINETIES.

AND TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE CITY, A AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH THAT WE MADE OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

UH, WE'VE DOING THIS FOR ALL OUR CLIENTS SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE FOR POSTERITY'S SAKE, A RECORD OF THE PLANT THAT YOU'RE NOW EMBARKING ON A NEW PLANT.

AND PRETTY SOON THAT THIS ONE WON'T BE FUNCTIONAL ANYMORE.

THIS BE A REMEMBRANCE OF THAT PLANT.

FILL A FEW STATISTICS ON THE PLANT.

IT WAS BUILT IN 1991.

THIS PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN IN 19, UH, APRIL OF THIS YEAR AND THE CITY SPENT ABOUT $5.6 MILLION IN EXPANDING THE PLANT FROM ABOUT 2.3 MILLION TO 4.7 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DID YOU MAKE THAT YOURSELF? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M GLAD TO ACCEPT THIS ON BEHALF OF MAYOR AND THE CITY OF WE'LL TURN IT AROUND SO OUR AUDIENCE CAN SEE IT AND SEE IT.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS CAROLYN ROBINSON.

I LIVE AT 1605 MYRTLE AVENUE HERE IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

AND I HAVE A SERIOUS COMPLAINT, UH, OVER WHERE I LIVE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL VACANT LOTS.

THERE ARE TWO ARE JOINING ME FROM RALEIGH STREET.

MY FENCE IS SIX FEET TALL.

THE GRASS ON THE ROD STREET SIDE IS TWO FEET OVER MY FENCE.

WE KILLED A SNAKE OUT THERE IN MY YARD THIS MORNING.

IT CAME FROM OVER THERE.

NOW I TRY NOT TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT THAT IS VERY UNBEARABLE.

AND IN THE BACK OF ME, I FOUGHT FOR YEARS TO GET THAT LOT CLEAN BACK THERE.

THEY CLEANED THE LOT.

THEY HAD BEEN KEEPING IT CLEAN FOR THE GRASS HAS GROWED UP FOUR FEET TALL AND THE VINES ARE COMING THROUGH AND GROWING UP OUTSIDE MY FENCE.

AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S FAIR THAT I SHOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PAY, TO HAVE IT CLEANED UP, BUT TO GO OUT, TO GET IN MY CAR.

AND THERE'S A SNAKE LAYING THERE.

IT'S VERY BAD.

AND I'VE ALSO HAVE BEEN DOWN AND ASKED TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

THERE'S A DRAINAGE PROBLEM OVER THERE WHERE I LIVE, THAT THE WATER COMES DOWN THE STREET AND DUMPS INTO MY BACKYARD.

AND NOW EVERY TIME IT RAINS, I CAN'T GO OUT MY BACK DOOR.

IF I COME OUT THE FRONT AND TRY TO COME AROUND THE BACK, YOU STILL CAN'T GET OUT BECAUSE THERE'S TWO FEET OF WATER SITTING IN MY BACKYARD.

IT GOES UP TO MY CAR.

NOW I PAY CITY AND COUNTY TAXES AND I FEEL LIKE THE CITY OWED ME THE COURTESY TO TRY TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS. AND I KNOW OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY THAT THE LOTS OF CLEAN THAT THEY SEND LETTERS TO PEOPLE TO CLEAN THE LOTS UP THOSE NEIGHBORS ON ROLLA STREET, THE MAN OWNS ONE OF THE LOTS LIVE RIGHT OR JOIN INTO THE LOCK.

SO HE KNOWS IT'S NOT CLEAN.

AND I THINK WE IN DUFFIELD AREA DESERVE THE CITY'S HELP TO TRY TO GET THAT PLACE CLEANED UP AND SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES.

BUT RIGHT NOW I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE I LIVE, BECAUSE IF SNAKES ARE COMING OUT, THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE TO STAY IN THE HOUSE.

AND THAT'S NOT FAIR.

IT'S DEFINITELY NOT SAFE.

MIKE, IS THIS AN AREA THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE DRAINAGE PROJECT FOR WHICH WE'RE GETTING THE, UH, THEME OF MONEY? UM,

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I THINK IT'S VERY NEAR THERE, BUT, UH, AS FAR AS THE LADIES' PROBLEMS WITH THE, UM, OVERRUN LOSS, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE CARE OF THOSE.

AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE IS CONCERNED.

I THINK RALEIGH STREET, UH, IS A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE AREA THAT, UH, UH, I THINK IT'S PAVING IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS, UH, ARE IMPACTED BY THE, UH, THE FLOOD DISASTER RELIEF STUFF.

BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY, UH, WHEN, WHEN WE FINISHED YOUR , UH, YOU KNOW WHAT HE'S BEEN AT, HE KNOWS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S GOTTEN WORSE.

AND, UM, BUT THESE BUSHES ARE REALLY BABBLE AND THAT'S NIGHT THIS MORNING.

I, AND FEEL THAT, AND WE CAN HELP YOU.

WE GO FOR A LOSS IS GOING TO ADDRESS.

YEAH.

HE KNOWS CITY MANAGER BEYOND COMPARE.

AND WILL YOU TELL HIM, YOU TALKED TO MR. AVERY AND WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE DID A LOT AREA VERY QUICKLY.

IT'S A, IT'S A TWO SEPARATE PROBLEMS. YEAH, NO, IT'S TWO SEPARATE PROBLEM.

BUT SINCE I HAD TO COME DOWN ABOUT THE BUSHES, I THOUGHT I WOULD REFRESH YOUR MIND ABOUT THAT DRAINAGE PROBLEM.

CAUSE I AM TIRED OF WAVING AND I HAVE SOMEBODY WHO HELPS WITH THE SNACKS.

CAUSE I MEAN, I HAD TO GO QUITE A FEW PEOPLE TO GET SOMEBODY TO COME AND GET THAT SNAKE BECAUSE I THINK HE WANTED THE CAR AND I LET HIM IN.

WE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE CARE OF THE LAST 40 OF MAMMON IF THEY'RE NOT TAKEN CARE OF BY THE TIME THIS BOARD AND LEADS AGAIN.

AND A COUPLE OF THREE WEEKS YOU COME BACK, THE THING, UH, STILL UNDER REQUESTED PETITIONS OF CITIZENS, UH, WHY DON'T WE HAVE VERY FEW CITIZENS OUT THERE THAT DON'T WORK FOR THE CITY.

AND I GUESS THEY'VE GOT A RIGHT TO COME UP TO ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE ON THE REQUEST OF AND CITIZENS.

OKAY.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR A MOMENT TO POLL WE'RE STRIKING NUMBER SEVEN TO BEGIN WITH THAT ONE IS BEING REMOVED AND NOT OTHER CONSIDERATION FOR TONIGHT.

HMM.

MAYOR PRO TEM THREES.

I LIKE TO MOVE THAT WHEEL AND DOCTOR REMAINING ITEMS. WELL, THAT'S, UH, I'M LOOKING THE ONE IS THE ONE ABOUT IN HERE ABOUT THE SPEED LIMIT.

THAT'S NUMBER 11.

NUMBER 11.

COULD WE PULL THAT FOR JUST A MOMENT? WELL, I LIKED TO MY MOVING DOCTOR REMAINED.

YES, YES, YES, YES.

UH, DANNY COULDN'T, UH, COULD YOU ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO EXACTLY WHERE THAT STREET IS? I'M NOT IT'S UM, WE'VE GOT THE SPIRIT SPECIFY SPECIFIC STREET.

A BUNCH OF STREETS.

WELL, WE GOT, WE'VE GOT EMAIL PERTAINING TO ONE.

I THINK AT LEAST BARBARA LEE DID NOT HER.

THIS IS JUST A GENERAL STATEMENT ABOUT SPEED LIMIT AND NOT A SPECIFIC STREET.

WELL, IT SEEMED THAT THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC STREET HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT.

LET ME DOUBLE CHECK IT.

I MAY BE WRONG.

I DON'T KNOW MR. SMITH, YOU KNOW, WHERE HE LIVES JUST FAR AS PARK AREA, THEN THAT'D BE ENTIRE PARK PARK AREA.

UM, YOU, YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT AND THRALL WITH THE IDEA OF THE SPEED LIMIT CHANGE.

AND I WAS JUST WANTING TO GET YOUR COMMENTS ON AM I, WELL, BASICALLY, UH, WE, WE DID TWO THINGS AND ONE OF, ONE OF THESE ISSUES DEALS WITH, TO BARNA AND THE DEVELOPER HAD SET FORTH A, UH, TRAFFIC PLAN SPEED LIMIT PLAN THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT, WHICH I HAVE NO REAL REAL PROBLEM WITH.

AND, AND THIS DEALS WITH ALL OF THE STREETS INTO BURNER THAT, UH, WOULD BE ESTABLISHED THAT WE HAD ACCEPTED AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT WILL BE ESTABLISHED AS 25 MILE PER HOUR STREETS.

AND THEY'RE BASICALLY LOCAL STREETS.

NONE OF THE THOROUGHFARE, UH, THE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS ACTUALLY 45 INTO, UH, TO BURN UP TO

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THE, UH, CLUBHOUSE AND THEN TO BURN THE CIRCLE IS 35.

AND WE HAVE NO REAL PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THE OTHER ISSUE, AND, AND WHAT, UH, BROUGHT THIS ABOUT IS ALTIMA MATTINGLY WAS APPROACHED BY SOME HOMEOWNERS IN FOREST PARK, UH, ABOUT, UH, THE NEED FOR SOME SPEED CONTROLS IN THERE.

AND THEY HAD, THEY HAD COME UP WITH A LIST OF STREETS THAT THEY, UH, RECOMMENDED TO BE AT 25 MILE PER HOUR, UH, BASICALLY IN, IN, IN LOOKING AT THEM.

UH, I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THE 25 MILE PER HOUR STREETS, EXCEPT FOR THE EXCEPTION OF WHEN YOU FIRST LOOK AT IT AND ELIZABETH AVENUE AND FOREST PARK DRIVE, UH, WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE, UH, AS HAS BEEN ADOPTED ELIZABETH AVENUE ALREADY, UH, WHICH PERSONALLY I DON'T BELIEVE TO BE THIRTY-FIVE, BUT, UH, ALL THE WAY UP TO CALLING AND DRIVE AND ALL THE WAY BACK OUT AND SIMMONS STREET HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AS 25 MILES PER HOUR.

SO I WENT AHEAD AND SAID, FINE, WE'LL MAKE THE OTHER SECTION 25, UH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT ON THE LOWERED SPEED.

THE ONLY OTHER STREET THAT I, THAT I QUESTIONED WITH, UH, ALDERMAN, MATT AND LEANNE, AND THE FOLKS OUT THERE AS FAR AS PARK DRIVE, WHICH IS A LIMITED ACCESS STREET, IT'S ONLY ABOUT 600 FEET LONG, UH, LIMITED ACCESS STREETS GENERALLY, UH, SHOULD MOVE TRAFFIC A LOT QUICKER.

UH, BUT IT IS BASICALLY NOTHING MORE THAN A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET.

SO WE DIDN'T ARGUE THAT.

SO WE, THAT WILL NOW BE A 25 MILE PROTESTANTS.

UH, BASICALLY ALL THE STREETS IN FOREST PARK WILL BE 25 MILE PER HOUR.

WELL, THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE CHANGING A LOT OF STREETS TO 25 MILES AN HOUR, AND IF THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT, THAT'S FINE.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH VOTING FOR IT, BUT WE HAVE DONE THIS ON OTHER STREETS AROUND TOWN AND IT HAS NOT REALLY SOLVED WHAT THEY PERCEIVE TO BE THEIR PROBLEM.

AND I WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT WILL NOT NECESSARILY SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN.

YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU PUT UP ALL THE SIGNS YOU WANT TO, IF IT'S NOT IN FOUR STORES, YOU KNOW, AND NOT SAYING THE POLICE DOESN'T ENFORCE THEM, BUT I MEAN, WE'VE GOT 127 MILES OF STREETS, UH, THAT THE CITY MAINTAINS AND IT'S HARD TO BE ON EVERY ONE OF THOSE THAT AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

SO, BUT IT DOES PUT IN PLACE A TOOL THAT YOU CAN USE FOR GOVERNING A SLOW, THE TRAFFIC DOWN.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN, WELL, NOBODY KNOWS, BUT, BUT YOU HAVE THEN, UH, AN INSTRUMENT THAT YOU COULD USE, WHICH IS A LOSS VIOLATION AND THEY CAN DRIVE 35 MILES, RIGHT? WELL, IT SETS A STANDARD.

IT SETS A STANDARD THAT EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND AND GIVES YOU A METHOD FOR PUNISHING TRANSGRESSORS, BUT IT ALSO DOES THROW AN INCREASED PROBLEM ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THAT THEY ARE, THEY GET SO MANY COMPLAINTS FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT STREETS LIKE ON SPENCER AVENUE AND RAYMOND PARK AVENUE, WINDOWS ROAD, ET CETERA.

AND THIS IS GOING TO STRETCH THE RESOURCES EVEN THINNER AND MAYBE CREATE MORE PROBLEMS FOR AREAS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S, AND IT SOMETIMES BOTHERS ME WHEN THEY SAY WE HAVE CHILDREN PLAYING IN THE STREETS DOWN HERE AND I THOUGHT, WHY ARE THE CHILDREN PLAYING? BECAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS, THERE'S BACKYARDS.

I MEAN, WELL, IT JUST BOTHERS ME THAT THE STREETS.

WE'VE GOT A REAL PROBLEM, BUT THE ISSUE WITH FOREST PARK AND, AND, AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF IN THE MUD CAN SPEAK TO THIS.

UH, MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENTS, THE DEVELOPMENTS NOW ARE MORE COMPACT AND THE STREETS ARE SHORTER AND, YOU KNOW, 25 MILE PER HOUR IN FOREST PARK DEFINITELY DOES NOT, UH, CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE GOING THROUGH FOREST PARK, YOU REALLY CAN'T DRIVE MUCH FASTER THAN 25 MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE OF THE LAYOUT OF THE STREET THAT THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH, WITH DISPENSER AVENUES AND PARK AVENUES IS THAT WE HAVE SET THOSE AT 25 MILE PER HOUR.

AND REALLY WHEN YOU'RE GOING ALONG DISTANCE AND THE STREET RUNS, I MEAN, PART OF SPENCER AVENUE IS OVER A MILE LONG AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO HOLD YOUR SPEED UNDER 25 MILE PER HOUR ON A, ON A LONG STREET BY THAT.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO ELIZABETH AVENUE, WHICH IS A WIDE BROAD STREET AND PUT IT AT 25, IT'S HARD TO HOLD YOUR SPEED LIMIT.

SO I DON'T SEE ANY REAL PROBLEM WITH THIS.

UH, I DO DO THINK THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED IT THAT MAYBE WE NEED A, UH, A CITY WIDE SPEED LIMIT OF 25, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE, UH, BUILD A STREET ANYMORE, WE WANT TO MAKE A 25 MILE PER HOUR.

I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT OUR SPEED LIMIT, GET SOME REAL TRAFFIC ENGINEERING ON HOW TO BEST MOVE THE TRAFFIC AND, AND, UH, AND DO IT, UH, OUTSIDE OF JUST WAITING FOR THE RESIDENTS TO COMPLAIN AND SAY, I WANT 25 MILES PER HOUR AND THINK IT'S GOING TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEM BECAUSE IT WON'T, NO, IT WON'T THAT THAT'S PROBABLY HAPPENED.

AND ALDERMAN MADIGAN, YOU MENTIONED THE SIDEWALKS, DANNY, WHY DON'T WE JUST START? WHY DON'T WE JUST CAME ALONG TO ACQUIRE ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS TO PUT IN A SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE, WE CAN DO WHATEVER THIS BOARD CHOOSES TO CAN'T DO IT TONIGHT.

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UM, I'M, UH, I'M OF THE OPINION THAT, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY SIDEWALKS CAN HELP.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDA LIKE A, KINDA LIKE A PUPPY.

I MEAN, THAT PUPPY IS CUTE AND PRETTY.

AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THIS THING, WE NEED TO REALIZE THAT PUPPY GROWS UP WITH THESE ADULTS.

AND WHEN YOU PUT SIDEWALK THERE, YOU'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN THEM.

WE WANT TREES, TREES, WE GO DOWNTOWN, YOU SEE WHAT TREES DO TO SIDEWALK? I MEAN, YOU, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE SITUATION BECAUSE THE PUPPY IS PRETTY AND IT LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER, BUT THERE'S MAINTENANCE THERE.

AND JUST LIKE THE SPEED LIMIT.

IF YOU'VE GOT A SIDEWALK THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT KIDS DOING ON THE PLAY IN THE STREET.

CAUSE IF YOU TELL HIM TO PLAY IN THE STREET, HE WON'T PLAY ON THE SIDEWALK.

IF YOU TELL HIM TO STAY OUT OF THE STREET, WHERE DOES HE WANT TO PLAY IN THE STREETS AND THE SPACE CROP.

SO, YOU KNOW, TO THINK THESE DAYS IS GONNA SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS, BUT IF THE BREWER BOLTS PUT SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE, THAT'S, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT .

YES, YES.

UM, YES.

APPOINTMENTS, MR. MADDEN.

I DON'T HAVE ANY, SIR.

NO, SIR.

NO.

FOUR MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD.

OKAY.

WE'LL TRY THIS MISCELLANEOUS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY SHIRT.

I HAD A QUESTION.

AND IT'S ABOUT THE, UH, THE RAILROAD STATION.

IF YOU'VE HEARD FROM HIM YET ABOUT THE NEW CLEANING OFF OF THE, UH, THE DITCH BANK OVER OFF THE SUNNY SIDE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE HAD GOTTEN ANY RESPONSE FROM THE RAILROAD THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT LOOKING BACK THEY WILL MAKE AN AFFIRMATIVE NOISE.

I REMEMBER THEM WHEN THEY WERE MAKING AFFIRMATIVE NOISES.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THEM IN THE LOUDER WITH THE NOISES.

I WROTE A THREE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS WE HAVE WITH .

LET'S SEE NO, SIR, NO MISCELLANEOUS.

WELL, I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER HAS A COUPLE OF MR. MAYOR PRO TEM MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I HAVE, I THINK YOU HAVE A COPY BEFORE YOU HAVE AN AUGUST 7TH, UH, MEMORANDUM TO ME FROM, UH, MS. JOHNSON AND OUTLINES EIGHT, UH, APPLICANTS THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED TO THIS BOARD AS POLICE WITH, FROM THIS POLICE SERVICE BOARD.

AND NOT, THIS WILL NEED YOUR APPROVAL HERE.

A MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, UH, POST NEXT NIGHT, SECOND ITEM IS, UH, REALLY A PORTION OF ITEM, NUMBER SIX ON A CONSENT AGENDA, BUT IT WAS DONE TOO LATE TO GET IT UNDER THAT, UH, AGENDA IT'S FOR A PUMP STATION THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT.

AND IT IS 65, $60,546, UH, EVEN, AND THIS IS THE LOW BID AND IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THIS RESOLUTION BE ADOPTED, UH, A CALL ON THIS ONE, ABOUT A PARK.

YES, I HAVE.

I HAVE NOTHING.

UH, I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, SOMETHING THAT CAME UP AT THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER TASKFORCE.

UM, THIS IS FROM THE ENGINEERING FIRM OF MALCOLM PIRNIE, WHO DID THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR A REGIONAL WASTEWATER DISPOSAL COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL SYSTEM FOR SEVERAL COUNTIES.

AND WHEN THAT STUDY WAS DONE, EACH PROPOSAL INVOLVED A NUMBER OF SYSTEMS, RIVER DISPOSAL, LAND APPLICATION, DEEP OIL INFUSIONS, A PIPELINE AT THE OCEAN OCEAN OUTFALL DOWN IN JACKSONVILLE.

BUT SINCE THEN THERE HAS BEEN SOMETHING NEW AT IT.

AND I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT FIND IT INTERESTING.

AND THIS LETTER IS TO THE, TO A

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COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN ON REGIONAL WASTEWATER TASK FORCE.

AND ITEM NUMBER THREE SAYS TO DEVELOP ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO DEVELOP A REGIONAL TREATMENT OR DISPOSAL ALTERNATIVES OR USE IN THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENT IMPACTS UPDATE AND REFINE ALTERNATIVES CONDUCT THE CONTAINING THE PREVIOUS FEASIBILITY STUDY CONSIDERED THE USE OF ABANDONED PARTIES FOR TREATED EFFLUENT DISCHARGE, SUCH AS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

SO WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING AT MARK MARIETTA PLANT IS NOW BEING CONSIDERED AS A MAJOR FACTOR FOR THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER PASSED OR SOMETHING THEY HAD NEVER CONSIDERED BEFORE WE GOT INVOLVED IN THAT PROGRAM.

SO WE ARE ATTRACTED ATTENTION STATEWIDE.

THIS COMPANY IS IN CHARLOTTE.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

I'M MOVING TO GERMANY.