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SHE CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER.

AND WHILE I OPEN WITH A PRAYER, MY REVEREND GREGORY PELHAM WEBSITE STEVENS PRETTY WELL, BAM, HIS CHURCH THAT APPEAR TO BE HERE.

DID YOU DO THIS? OH, FALL NOW WITH GOD AS WE COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, PROBABLY READ A STAT.

YOU FOLLOW THE WE IN THIS PLACE TONIGHT TOGETHER, BUT IT'S FOLLOWING AFTER SPECIAL BLESSING ON THE BOARD.

ALL OF US TONIGHT, BOB WILL FALL A BLESSED NEW BURN CONTINUALLY.

I HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, BUT FATHER BLESS THIS COUNTY THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER IN ONE COMMON CAUSE TO BE FAITHFUL TO EVERY CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTY VERSUS THE FATHER AFTER DOLLAR CONTINUALLY BLESS EACH ONE OF US TONIGHT, FATHER OR MERCY FATHER.

WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ALREADY DONE.

FATHER, ALMOST A FATHER.

BLESS THOSE WHO LOST THEIR FAMILIES, FATHER OR MERCY FALL.

IT'S BEEN A TRIED TO DEFAULT, BUT WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN COME CLOSER TOGETHER THAT WE CAN KNIT OURSELVES TO ONE ANOTHER.

THAT WE MAY BE ALWAYS REMEMBERED.

THERE'LL BE OUR BROTHER'S KEEPER IN JESUS NAME.

WE PRAY AND COUNTED.

DONE.

AMEN.

OH MY GOD.

UM, YEAH.

OKAY.

LET ME MAKE A BRIEF EXPLANATION BEFORE WE MOVE ON WITH THIS.

WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT FOR THOSE WHO'VE DONE? NO, IT'S JUST A SECOND.

WE'RE GOING TO CALL TO A CLOSE THIS WHOLE BOARD AND THIS MAYOR AND ITS WORK FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, ALL OF US CAN BE NULL AND VOID.

KEEP THE APPLAUSE.

NOW WON'T LAST MONTH I'M BEHIND THAT.

JAN IS GOING TO PART OF COURT IS GOING TO SWEAR ME IN AND THEN ELSEWHERE IN THE BOARD.

AND WE'LL ALL COME BACK TO LIFE.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO SCARE ANYBODY.

AND ESPECIALLY THOSE OF YOU ON CHANNEL 10 AND TO WATCH AN ASS BY THE TIME YOU SEE THIS, YOU WON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THERE WASN'T A CITY GOVERNMENT, BUT JUST A BRIEF TAX.

AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

SO THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO GO AHEAD AND DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? THE LAST MEET? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT, WE NEED TO CALL THE ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO MAKE A SANDY THAT ADJOURN? SO MOVE BACK.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT? DO WE NEED A ROLL? GO ON MAN.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED WE ARE ADJOURNED AND THE CITY HAS NO GUM, NO COFFEE.

WE SHOULD MOVE ON WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE OFFICE.

WE'LL START WITH THE SELF AND LET ME GET SOME HERE TO HELP ME WITH THE ALDERMAN AND SO FORTH.

AND I SWEAR THEY HAVE, YOU CAN STEP OUT HERE WITH ME.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT REPEAT AFTER ME AT THOMAS A BETA THIRD, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL, UH, TO SAY, LET US SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO HELP ME SUPPORT AND MAINTAIN, SUPPORT, MAINTAIN THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS IN NORTH CAROLINA.

NOT INCONSISTENT THERE WITH THAT.

I WILL FAITHFULLY AND IMPARTIALLY

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DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE AS WELL AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO HELP ME, GOD, WHEREVER THE CITY, AH, THOMAS, I BET US A THIRD DO SOLEMNLY AND SINCERELY SWEAR.

THOMAS WE'LL BE FAITHFUL AND BE OUR TRUE ALLEGIANCE TO THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, NORTH CAROLINA, AND TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL POWER AND AUTHORITIES, WHICH ARE MAYBE ESTABLISHED PAJARO MIGHT BE ESTABLISHED FOR THE GOVERNMENT THEREOF AND THAT I WILL ENDEAVOR TO SUPPORT, MAINTAIN AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF SAYS DATE, NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.

SO HELP ME GOD, A PANEL.

WE'VE GOT ONE MINUTE AND AFTER I SAY DJ LADIES, JR.

HE SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION, THE CONSTITUTION, THE UNITED STATES.

SO HELP ME, GOD, JUNIOR.

I SWEAR.

I SWEAR.

I WILL SUPPORT AND MAINTAIN THE CONSTITUTION, THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES, THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND LAWS AND THE CONSTITUTION, THE LAWS CAROLINA, NOT INCONSISTENT THERE WITH THAT.

I WILL FAITHFULLY, FAITHFULLY AND IMPARTIALLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MOUTH.

SWEAR.

I WILL BE FAITHFUL.

BE FAITHFUL.

STAY IN NORTH CAROLINA, NORTH CAROLINA DID THE CONSTITUTIONAL POWER CONSTITUTIONAL POWER OR MAYBE ESTABLISHED AND THEN I WILL ENDEAVOR TO SUPPORT, TO SUPPORT

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LET'S SAY WE HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL HERE.

WE MIGHT BE SOME MORNING IT WRONG.

THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

NEXT THING WE HAVE, DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER? I MAKE A MOTION BEFORE, UH, KIRK CITY MANAGER.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT? NOT JUST THE VOICE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

NAME IS WALTER B. HARTMAN.

JULIA UH, THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR A CITY FINANCE DIRECTOR TO MOVE, BUT WHO IS CLOSE ENOUGH.

THEY'RE ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY I HOPE I, I DO I HERE TO CITY ATTORNEY.

JUST SOUND BITE OF YOU THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS A MISTAKE WHEN SOMEWHERE IN THE END AS TO HIS NAME.

SO WE GOING TO GET IT SURVEYED.

WE KNOW WHO WE'RE GOING TO.

WE HAVE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED HERO NOMINATION OR A MOTION FOR CITY CLERK.

YOU'RE MAKING THE NOTE.

YOU PICK ONE.

OKAY.

WE'RE OFF TO A, IT IS A LITTLE AS FAST AFTER THIS MANY YEARS.

THAT'S WHY I'M BEING VERY CAREFUL IN BETWEEN TO MAKE SURE ALL THE WORDS TO PUT IN THAT PROBLEM LAST BUT NOT LEAST.

DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR A CITY TAX COLLECTOR? I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT DONNA MCCOY.

EXACTLY.

FOR THE DISCUSSION.

IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, WE HAVE TO APPOINT HER BECAUSE NOBODY WOULD DO THE CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS.

BARBARA.

YOU DO REALIZE THAT YOU WILL PROBABLY GET A CALL FOR SOMEBODY TO BOX.

LIKE YOU HAD AN OPPONENT OF THE TAX COLLECTOR.

YOU'RE ALL GETTING THE CALL, NICOLE, YOU ALL RIGHT.

SO WE KNOW ATLANTA CITY IS BACK WITH HIS GOVERNING BODY.

THEY ALWAYS INVOLVE HIS ROLE.

EXACTLY.

RIGHT? WHO WAS GOING TO DO THAT? JAN? AND THEN AGAIN, YOU CAN DO THEM ALL IN ONE FELL SWOOP.

I THINK CAN'T YOU, IF YOU WOULD LET ME NORMALLY DO IT WITH A BUNCH OF THEM TOGETHER, WE HAVE 10 ON THE BATHROOM.

RAISE YOUR MIND.

THAT WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF NINE STATES.

THE CONSTITUTION, VICKIE H JOHNSON, AND I WILL SUPPORT AND MAINTAIN THE CONSTITUTION.

AND I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE LAWS AND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF NORTH CAROLINA LAWS IN NORTH CAROLINA, NOT INCONSISTENT, NOT INCONSISTENT THEIR WAY.

AND THEN I WILL FIGHT TO DISCHARGE THE DUTIES CHARGED THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE.

CITY CAR SAID HELPED ME GO.

I VICKIE H JOHNSON CITY CLERK TO SELL ME

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SOUNDLY.

THAT WOULD BE FAITHFUL.

AND TRULY, TRULY JUST STAYED IN NORTH CAROLINA TO THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS AND AUTHORITIES AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS AND AUTHORITIES, WHICH ARE MAYBE ESTABLISHED FOR THE GOVERNMENT THERE, UH, WHICH ARE MAYBE ESTABLISHED FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

THEY'RE UP IN THE L AND D EFFORT TO SUPPORT AND MAINTAIN AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION.

DOES IT STATE AND DEFENSE CONSTITUTION UPSET STATE INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY.

HE SAYS HE HELPED ME TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITIES.

THEY'VE HELPED ME GO THE TAX COLLECTOR MUST BE A SPECIAL ONE.

DON MCCOY DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THE SONGS THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND HE HELPED ME GOD, UM, SUPPORTING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

I DON'T DO SOME SWEAR AT DONNA THAT I WILL SUPPORT THAT I WAS AND MAINTAIN THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND MAINTAIN THE LAWS AND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF NORTH CAROLINA, NORTH CAROLINA, NOT EXISTENT THERE, WE HAVE NOT BEEN CONSISTENT THERE AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES.

AND THEN I WILL FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE CITY TAX COLLECTOR OF MY OFFICES TO THE TAX COLLECTOR, AND THAT I WILL NOT ALLOW MY ACTIONS AND THAT I WILL NOT ALLOW MY ACTIONS TO SEE TAX COLLECTOR, CITY TAX COLLECTOR TO CANCEL IT'S THAT PERSONAL TO BE INFLUENCED BY PERSONAL OR POLITICAL FRIENDSHIPS, POLITICAL FRIENDSHIP, OR OBLIGATIONS OR OBLIGATIONS OF HEALTHY DOG BUT I'LL BE FAITHFUL WHEN THEY'RE TRULY JUST THAT I WILL BE FAITHFUL IN MARRIAGE, REAL ALLEGIANCE, THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, THE CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS AND AUTHORITIES, WHICH ARE, AND AUTHORITIES, WHICH ARE MAYBE ESTABLISHED FOR THE GOVERNMENT THERE, OR MAYBE ESTABLISHED THE GOVERNMENT THERE THAT I WANTED TO EVER TO SUPPORT AND THAT I WILL MAINTAIN AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, NOT BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE CONSULTATION, THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, AND TO GO TO SETTING UP TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE WE HAD SEVERAL THINGS ON THE AGENDA, VERY ORDERS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE SORT OF SUPPOSED TO MAMMY GOT GAS WAS THE NORMAL WAY THAT WE CAN ALWAYS OPEN OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A BREAD PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

INSIGHTFUL.

WE KIND OF GOT AROUND THAT WHEN I WOULDN'T WANT TO SET THAT PRECEDENT OF NOT DOING SO LESS NANNY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, THAT'S THE PRIOR FATHER, WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS PRIVILEGE.

WE HAVE TO COME AND CALL UPON YOUR NAME.

THANK YOU LORD FOR THIS NIGHT AND WHAT IT MEANS TO THE CITY.

THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THESE WHO WERE WILLING TO SERVE, AND GOD WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH EACH ONE OF THEM THROUGH THIS UPCOMING TERM, OR GIVE THEM GUIDANCE AND WISDOM OR LEAD THEM THAT THEY MIGHT LEAD US OR THIS CITY.

AND IN A WAY THAT GOD, YOU WOULD HAVE US TO GO THROUGH WITH EACH DECISION, GIVE THEM STRENGTH, PROTECT, AND KEEP THEM.

AND LORD HELP US ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF YOUR COMMUNITY AND GOD FOR THE GOOD OF YOUR KINGDOM FORCE IN CHRIST'S NAME, WE PRAY IN FORESIGHT.

YOU MAN, NEWLY ELECTED, NEWLY SWORN.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

IT SAYS, I DON'T HEAR COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS.

SO LET'S JUST GO DOWN THE LADDER.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON THE PAST YEAR OR SAY THEIR NEXT YEAR OR WHATEVER MARIJUANA, CERTAIN OCCASIONS, ALDERWOMAN LEE AS SUGGESTED THAT IS THE MAN THAT ALWAYS SPEAK FIRST.

SO PROVING THAT CHIVALRY

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IS NOT DEAD.

I'D LIKE TO PASS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HER TO SPEAK FIRST.

AND I WOULD RESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK LATER.

THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY TIME I'M GONNA GET TO SAY ANYTHING I WAS TELLING YOU.

SO I'M GOING TO TAKE WELL, THE, I LIKE TO FIRST GIVE GOD THANKS AND PRAISE FOR ALL THAT HE IS DOING HERE.

NOW SITTING IN WITH ME AND OUR BOARD MEMBER OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS, UM, WE HAVE STRIVE TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO MAKE OUR SOONER, TO BE BEST CITY.

THERE IS IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA WITHOUT TAKING THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA.

WE HAVE, UM, WORKED WELL TOGETHER.

WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT WE DO AGREE TO, BUT GET ALONG WELL WITH ME.

OKAY.

AND, UM, WE HAVE SIMILAR VISIONS ABOUT CITY.

WE HOPE THAT ALL CITIZENS ARE FIRST PRIORITY IN THE CITY.

THEY ARE DESIRES AND THEIR WANTS AND THEIR CONCERNS WITH THE GROWTH OF THAT CITY IS ALL COMES FROM AS WELL.

AND SO WE ARE THANKFUL.

I AM THANKFUL TO THE CITIZENS AND THE CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE ELECTED ME ONCE AGAIN, SHOWING THEIR CONFIDENCE AND WHAT WE HOPE TO DO AND HAVE DONE.

THANK YOU.

AND I ASKED HIM TO HELP ME TO SERVE ALL OF YOU.

I KNOW MR. MRS. SAMSON.

WE, OF COURSE WE SERVE JOINTLY AS COMMISSIONERS OF THE AREAS HAVE WANTED TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FACT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

NOW Y'ALL I WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE THOUGH.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

YOU WERE ON THE RIGHT FAR, RIGHT? YOUR TURN, HUH? WOW.

IT'S BEEN FOR FAST, SUCCESSFUL YEARS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE VOTERS OF THE FOURTH WARD FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ONCE AGAIN, UH, THE, UH, WITH THE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE THAT THEY'VE PLACED IN ME, I'M GOING TO PROMISE THEM ONE THING.

I'M GOING TO JUST CONTINUE TO DO WHAT I DID THE LAST ONE.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE A PLUS FOR THEM.

I LIKE TO THANK THEIR BOARD MEMBERS FOR THEIR COOPERATIONS AND PATIENTS WITH ME AND TRYING TO TEACH ME TO BE A GOOD ALL ROOM.

IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT IF I SIT HERE AND WATCH MY COLLEAGUES WORK AND I CAN'T, UH, I CAN'T DO THINGS WRONG, I WILL LEARN FROM THEM.

AND AS I'M GOING TO TELL THEM THAT SINCE I'M STILL THE JUNIOR ALDERMAN, I WILL STILL LOOK TO THEM AS ROLE MODELS TO HELP ME THROUGH THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY STAFF FROM, UH, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS DOWN TO THE NEWEST RECRUIT.

THEY DO THOSE WONDERFUL THINGS AND THEY, WE HAVE A GREAT STAFF.

THEY DO THOSE THINGS THAT MAKE THIS CITY A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, TO WORK AND TO BRING TOURISTS TO, AND ALSO ENCOURAGE TRANSPLANTS, TO MOVE TO NEW BERN, TO, UH, ESTABLISH THEIR NEW LIFE.

THE, UH, I THINK THAT THE CITY OF NEWBURN, WHICH HAS A GREAT HISTORY, WE'RE NOW FINISHING THE PAST.

WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE IN THE FUTURE.

WE WILL HAVE, UM, THAT, UH, GREAT PLANS IN PLACE.

THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE RENNER RENOVATION OF THE TRAIN STATION, THE LONG RANGE PLAN, WHICH LOOKS AT 20 YEARS, I HOPE I'M AROUND AT THE END OF THOSE 20 YEARS TO SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

BUT I WANT TO BACK UP, YOU REALIZE THAT IN THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS, WE WILL BE CELEBRATING THE 300TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

AND ALTHOUGH IT'S BEYOND THIS TERM, WE WOULD STILL LIKE TO HAVE EVERYBODY THINKING ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THAT SHOULD BE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE BEFORE US.

UH, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE, UH, IN AN OFFICE LONG BEFORE I EVER EVEN KNEW ABOUT NEW BRUNCH, THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED A BEAUTIFUL CITY THAT MAKES IT, MAKES US PROUD TO LIVE HERE.

MY BRIDE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE NOW EIGHT YEARS.

AND WHEN WE LEAVE TO GO BACK TO WHERE WE USED TO LIVE, AND WE SAY, WE'RE GOING BACK WHERE YOU, WHERE WE USED TO LIVE, BUT THIS IS HOME.

AND I WANT TO THANK ALL THE MEMBERS OF CURRENT BOARD FOR CONTINUING THAT PLAN, ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK MR. BILL HARTMAN, CITY MANAGER, WHO HAS BEEN MY MENTOR FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

AND I SURE HOPE HE CONTINUES TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.

IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.

I'VE GOT TO MEET AN AWFUL LOT OF NICE PEOPLE, COMMISSIONER SAMSON AND HIS BRIDE AND HIS MOM.

THEY ARE THE SWEETEST PEOPLE.

AND I REALLY ENJOY WORKING

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WITH THEM, ALTHOUGH HE'S ON THE COUNTY AND I'M ON THE CITY, WE WORKED TOGETHER.

THANK YOU, MR. SINCE THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

WELL, I'LL BE FAIRLY SHORT AND SWEET.

I'VE SAID MANY TIMES THAT, UH, THE CITY BOARD REALLY CAN'T TAKE THE CREDIT FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THIS CITY.

SO MUCH AS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE UP THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES AND ORGANIZATIONS, WHICH REALLY HAVE COME UP WITH A LOT OF THE IDEAS AND PUSH THEM WHILE WE JUST STOOD BACK AND SAID, YOU GO, YOU GO.

AND IT'S TRUE THAT THE CITY, THE CITY HAS FACILITATED A LOT OF THESE THINGS IN THAT, UH, IN A LOT OF THE GRANTS AND EVERYTHING, THE GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY HAS TO HANDLE THE MONEY AND THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT I REALLY GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID AT A RECENT MEETING AND THE THING REVEREND SAMSON, LIKE THAT STATEMENT TO THE VERSE FROM PROPER PROVERBS, IT SAYS WHERE THERE IS NO VISION, THE PEOPLE PERISH, OR IN THIS CASE, THE POUND PARISHES, THIS IS A TOWN FILLED WITH PEOPLE WITH VISIONS AND SO MUCH HAS BEEN DONE BY THESE PEOPLE THAT IT'S JUST, THERE'S NO WAY TO THANK THEM FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S TRANSPIRED OVER THE PERIOD.

SINCE 1985, WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED, IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL.

I THANK MY FATHER FOR TEACHING ME TO PRIME THE FOUNDATIONS FOR GETTING ANYTHING DONE IN THE POLITICAL ARENA.

AND ALTHOUGH WE ALL LIKE TO SAY, WE'RE NOT POLITICIANS, THE WORD POLITICS SIMPLY MEANS, UH, ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT.

THAT'S ALL IT REALLY MEANS.

AND HE TAUGHT ME TWO THINGS THAT I'VE NEVER FORGOTTEN.

ONE IS HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE.

YOU CAN TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.

GIVE THEM THE GUIDELINES, GIVE THEM THE RESOURCES AND LEAVE THEM ALONE TO DO THEIR JOBS.

AND WE HAVE CITY EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE TAKEN THAT TO THE ULTIMATE THING.

I'VE DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB.

THE OTHER THING MY FATHER TAUGHT ME IS ALWAYS HOLD YOUR DRINK IN YOUR LEFT HAND, BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO SHAKE A SAKI COLD AT THE FRONT.

IT HELPS THEM.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY WIFE, BE MADE WITHOUT WHOM I WOULDN'T BE HERE.

I COULD NOT HAVE BEEN PART OF WHAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE LAST 80 IN, FOR THE LAST YEAR, SINCE 1985, THE RENAISSANCE LITERALLY THAT THE RENAISSANCE IN NEWBURN, I AM PROUD OF WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE DONE.

AND I KNOW THAT IT'S JUST, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO FIND PEOPLE YOU WOULDN'T ALLOW ME TO SERVE THE LAST 12 YEARS ON WHATEVER FOR FOUR MORE YEARS ON IT.

I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE ENTIRE BOARD COME BACK ON BECAUSE WE DO WORK TOGETHER.

AND LIKE BARBARA LEE SAID WE DISAGREED, BUT WE WORKED THINGS OUT AND WE GET TO HAVE A GOOD BOARD.

WE HAVE SO MUCH IN THE MILL, UH, TO ACCOMPLISH OVER THIS NEXT FOUR YEARS.

AND TWO, WE COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT A GOOD CITY MANAGER AND A GOOD STAFF THAT REALLY PASSES TO CREATE AN AGENDA THAT THEY CAN DO THE WORK.

WE JUST INTERFERE WITH THEM EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

UH, BUT ANYWAY, WE DO HAVE A GREAT BOARD.

WE'VE GOT A GREAT COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I WORKED WITH UNION POINT PROJECT, I'VE SEEN THE PEOPLE TURN OUT WITH THE PRIDE THAT THEY HAD, THE CITY OF JUVENILES PARKS AND ALL, BUT REALLY A GREAT FEELING FOR ME BECAUSE IT TOOK US THREE YEARS TO RAISE THE MONEY, TO SELL ALL THE BRICK, BUT IT'S REALLY PAID OFF.

WE WERE GETTING ALL KINDS OF GREAT COMMENTS ABOUT OUR DOWNTOWN AND OUR PARKS AND ALL THAT CAME ABOUT ON JULY CITY EMPLOYEES AND JUST SAID, THIS IS A NEW, I WANT TO FIGHT.

I LIKE TO FIGHT ALL OF THE BOULDERS.

WE ELECTED ME FOR MY SIXTH TERM.

SOMEONE HAD TOLD ME BACK IN 1985 AND I WAS SERVED SIX TERMS. I WOULDN'T BELIEVED AT THE TIME, THE LORD WILLING, IF I COMPLETE THIS TREND GOING TO BE 20 YEARS AND I NEVER EXPECTED TO BE INVOLVED WITH SUCH A DURATION.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS ONE? IT MEANS WE'LL SERVE ANOTHER TERM, BUT I LIKE TO BE SPECIAL.

YOU KNOW, LIKE MY MOTHER RECENTLY PASSED MY MOTHER-IN-LAW.

SHE, UH, SHE TOOK CARE OF ME TILL THE END.

SHE TOOK ABOUT 30 PEOPLE TO THE POLLS.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I FOUND OUT ON ELECTION DAY LATER THAT EVENING COOK BABIES IS TOM'S BROTHER.

AND HE AND I WERE AT THE POLLS GUN WAS ME ABOUT HOW MY MOTHER BOUGHT ABOUT 30 PIZZA POLES.

AND THE REASON I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THAT NO, MY WAR WAS FITTING TO FIVE DIFFERENT PRECINCTS.

SO I WAS TRYING TO JUGGLE ALL THE PRECINCTS, BUT I'M TESTING TESTAMENT TO ME THAT THERE REALLY IS A LOVE OF BLACK MOTHERS

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WANTING TO DEDICATE THIS TERM ON MY MOTHER'S NAME IS CORRINE.

SHE RAISED ME STEAL THE VALUES IN ME, THE ONE CHARACTERISTIC.

SHE HAD VERY HONEST, REAL FRANK, I THINK I'M JUST SAYING FIRST.

LET ME JUST LET ROB KNOW THAT THIS BOARD IS HERE, HERE.

THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

YOU FEEL LONELY.

WE MAY NOT LOOK LIKE THE PERSON YOU'RE MISSING.

WE CAN BE VERY SUPPORTIVE WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH FROM THE BOAT.

UM, BUT HALF OF MYSELF, I WOULD JUST LIKE FIRST TO THANK MY LORD FOR, ALLOW ME TO STAY ALIVE, TO SERVE THE PAST 12 YEARS.

ON THE SECOND LEVEL I HAD TO THANK MY WIFE AND MY KIDS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE.

ALSO, I AM SERVING THIS TERM TO DO REST BECAUSE MY WIFE DID NOT WANT ME TO RUN.

AND I JUST PRAYED THAT WE GO THROUGH THIS FOUR YEARS HAPPILY AGAIN, BUT I WANT TO THANK ALL THE DONORS THAT SUPPORTED ME MOST PUT ON MY STAFF CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY.

UH, AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR WHO HAS BEEN A EXAMPLE OF A GOOD MAYOR FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, WHO HAS BEEN HONEST AND FAIR WITH EVERYONE.

THAT'S COME BEFORE THIS BOARD AND HIS LEADERSHIP AND HIS LEADERSHIP.

I THINK WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED SOME THINGS THAT PROBABLY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED IF HE WASN'T DIRECTING FAIR AND A STRAIGHT GUY.

UH, ALSO, I LIKE TO THINK, THANK THOSE WHO PART PARTNERSHIPS.

WE PIGGYBACK WHIPS, SWISS BEAR, DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION, UH, ANY DOWNTOWN ORGANIZATION, ANY ORGANIZATION THAT WE PARTNERSHIP.

WE THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE WITHOUT THOSE PARTNERSHIPS, YOU SIT IN NEWBURGH WOULD NOT BE WHERE IT IS TODAY.

AND WE THANK THANK THE CITIZENS CALLED US AT 11, 12 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT TO KEEP US ON OUR TOES.

WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, AND EVEN THOUGH THEY CALL IT SUSAN BLOCK IN THE MORNING.

YEAH, WE THANK FOR THAT.

UH, SAY WHAT YOU GIVE THEM.

UH, BUT, UH, BUT, BUT IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.

UH, I'VE SAT IN THIS AD ROBYN NOW FOR 12 YEARS AND I'M LIKE, JAY, WE LEARNED FROM THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE WE HAVE.

AND, UH, AND WE JUST THINK THE CORPORATION THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS AND OUR STAFF.

THANK YOU.

AND IT'S MY TURN.

I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU ALL DEMO STRIKES NORMALLY HAVE TO MAKE TELEVISION AND I'M AGREED BY MY, MY WIFE'S MIND.

SHE SITTING ON THE FRONT ROW, WHAT SHE'S THINKING RIGHT NOW, STOP ROCKING YOU IDIOT.

I KNEW YOU WERE THINKING I CAUGHT MYSELF, BUT IT WAS TOO LATE.

I'D LIKE TO SAY SEVERAL THINGS.

ONE THING IS MY FRIEND ROBERT WAS SPEAKING ABOUT HIS MOTHER AND ALL I LEARNED ABOUT HIS MOTHER, HIS MOTHER, MY MOTHER WORE A WHOLE LOT OF LIGHT OUT.

AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, MAYBE IT'S NO COINCIDENCE THAT ME AND HIM WAS ENDED UP ON THE BOARD OF ALL WOMEN REPRESENTING THE CITY OF.

AND, UH, THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID FOR THAT.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY IN A LIGHTHEARTED MANNER, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A MOTHER'S LOVE, I'LL NEVER FORGET ONE TIME I WENT TO THIS BUTCHER WHEN I WAS ABOUT 20 YEARS OLD AND THE GUY JUST OPENED HIS MEAT PLACE.

AND I SAID, UH, MAY I ASK YOU SOMETHING THAT STEAKS MIGHTY CHEAP? I SAID, IS IT TENDER? HE SAID, SIGN THAT AT STAKES TENDERS, A MOTHER'S LOAD.

AND I BOUGHT IT A MADE IT BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT IT WAS TALKING ABOUT AND ASKED THE TRUTH.

I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SAY THAT POLITICS, YOU KNOW, AS A SORT OF A FUNNY THING IN THE SENSE THAT YOU HAVE TO BE ELECTED BY ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO VOTE FOR YOU AND THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT PROBABLY THE GREATEST HONOR POLITICS IN MY OPINION IS TO BE ELECTED TO A LOCAL OFFICE.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS YOU'RE ELECTED BY PEOPLE WHO KNOW YOU, PEOPLE THAT ELECTED MR. SAM'S PEOPLE IN THE , ROBERT, ALL OF US ON HIS BOARD.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WHEN YOU ELECTED TO SOME MUCH LARGER OFFICES, ALL YOU KNOW ABOUT IS HIS PEOPLE.

A LOT OF TIMES, IT'S THE AD YOU SAW ON TELEVISION OR SOMETHING.

YOU KNOW WHAT SOMETHING SOMEBODY PROMOTED OR WHATEVER YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE.

WELL, MAYBE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU ALL ON THAT.

SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED IN ASSEMBLING AN ABSOLUTELY SERIOUS CHARGE IS PUT ON A LOCAL OFFICIAL WHEN HE'S ELECTED, BECAUSE

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HE'S ELECTED BY PEOPLE THAT KNOW HIM OR HER, THEY TRUST YOU TO DO THEIR BUSINESS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW BEING, BUT AS BOARD, AS LONG AS I AM VERY PROUD OF THAT, THEY ALWAYS DO WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST FOR THE CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, IN, AT THE SAME TIME.

AND THIS IS THE SAD PART ABOUT POLITICS, AND IT'S BEEN TOUGH AND MADE IT NO MATTER WHAT DECISION YOU MAKE, SOMEBODY.

AND IF YOU'RE THE KIND OF PERSON THAT LIKES TO SEE EVERYBODY BE HAPPY, IT'S TOUGH TO WALK INTO SHEETS.

YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE GET A CROWD OF FOLKS IN HERE, I JUST GOT TO GO THIS WAY OR THAT WAY.

AND YOU LITERALLY BRAID IT TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT DECISION.

AND YOU ASKED THE INSIDES, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR WHATEVER.

YOU STILL GOING TO BE PEOPLE TO LEAVE HERE WITH A LONG FACE.

AND THAT'S, IF YOU CARE ABOUT THAT STUFF.

SO SOMETIMES YOU WATCH IT CHANNEL 10 AND YOU SAY, MAN, I WOULDN'T DO THAT FOR NOTHING.

I CAN PROMISE YOU IF YOU KNEW WHAT WE WERE PAID, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING IT FOR NOW JUST ABOUT NOTHING.

REALLY.

IT IS A GREAT HONOR AND WE DO HAVE FUN AND WE LAUGH.

WE TAKE THE SERIOUS BARNES REAL SERIOUS AND BELIEVE THAT YOU SEE AN UNWIND AS IT UNWINDS, WE DON'T MAKE ANY DEALS BEHIND THE SCENES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO MAN, AND WE'VE ALL THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY OUR THING.

NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE POINT WHEN I'M A MAYOR PRO TEM, THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

THAT MEANS THAT WHEN I'M OUT THERE TO DO THE DUTY AS MAYOR, THIS INDIVIDUAL STEPS UP AND TAKES CARE OF IT.

AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITIZENS OUT HERE WHEN YOU NEED THEM BY CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE MAYOR WHO CAN'T BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE.

AND SOMETIMES CAN'T BE IN ONE PLACE AT ONCE.

SO DO I HEAR ANY NOMINATIONS OF THE MAYOR PRO TEM? WHETHER THIS COMING HERE, HERE TONIGHT ON MIRA IS GOING OUT MIRACLE, TIM, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MAX FREEZE.

WE HAVE SLACK ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED.

MAY I, BEFORE YOU GO, I JUST WANT IT TO YOU GUYS THINK NOW YOUR WIFE, AND SINCE I DIDN'T HAVE ONE, I WANT, MY HUSBAND THAT ALWAYS HERE WITH ME WHEN HE'S HERE TONIGHT, HIS NAME IS MR. BARBARA.

LET'S DO THIS ONE THING.

LET'S SAY WE WERE SUPPOSED TO JAR IN FRONT OF FOUR RECEPTIONS IN WHICH WE'RE GOING TO DO THE LEST IT, UNLESS THEY DO THIS THING.

THERE'S PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE TO WATCH US ON CHAT.

I KNOW THE DUDE GOES AND RUN ME AROUND THE GROCERY STORE AND THEY HEAR US TALKING ABOUT THE Y'S LAST.

LET HIM STAND UP ONE AT A TIME.

AND MAYBE THE CHANNEL 10 FELT LIKE CAN GET A SHOUT OUT.

I'M SAYING, IF FOLKS CAN UNDERSTAND, START WITH MY WIFE 40 YEARS.

HOW ABOUT NOW? STAND UP FACE THE CAMERA.

JANUARY TO FED 40 YEARS JUST LIKE MOTHERS.

IS THAT A PROMISE? MY BRIDE, SANDRA SITTING RIGHT OUT THERE, WHICH HE STAND UP WE HAVE BEEN MARRIED 461 MONTHS ENJOYED EVERY ONE ON MR. LEE.

YOU'LL FACE AND I MENTIONED MY WIFE BE MAYO.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE ONE OF MY GRANDCHILDREN, WHO IS ONE OF MY PRIDE AND JOY IS THIS IS MS. HANNAH COLLINS, MR. MAYOR, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF NEWBURN, THESE PEOPLE ARE THE FUTURE OF NEWBURGH.

PEOPLE LIKE HANNAH AND ALL THE OTHERS OUT THERE.

AND THAT'S WHO WE DO IT FOR.

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MY DAUGHTER, ASHLEY ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO STOP FOR ABOUT A 10 OR 15 MINUTE RECESSION WHERE THE TRADITIONAL THING ON THIS SIGNING THAT NIGHT, AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK AND RIESLING MEETING AND ALL THE OTHER FOLKS GET TO THAT, BUT THEY LIKE SURE.

THEY WHALE.

SO LET'S STAND THE JOURNEY FROM THE PERCEPTION.

WE'LL CALL THE MEETING BACK INTO ORDER AFTER OUR RECEPTION, TO HAVE A LITTLE REPAST, TO CELEBRATE THE BOARD, BEING REELECTED SO FORTH.

AND SO ON.

ONE THING THAT I NEGLECTED TO DO IS WHEN WE INTRODUCED OUR WIVES AND INSIGHTFUL OFFERS A FEW MINUTES AGO, BEFORE WE WENT TO OUR RECEPTION, I JUST THOUGHT THAT I HAD DEPRIVED THE PUBLIC.

IF THEY HAD NOT SEEN ONE OF MY SISTERS WHO'S HERE BECAUSE SHE IS THE FEMALE VERSION OF ME.

I WANT YOU TO STAND UP AND FACE THE CAMERA YOU CAN LEAVE IF YOU'D LIKE, NOT ONLY CAN HE GAIN GOALS, RELATIVES, HOUSES, EITHER.

ALL RIGHT.

THE FIRST THING THAT WE HAVE IS THE REQUESTED PETITIONS OF CITIZENS.

IT WANTS TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO US STAYING.

I THOUGHT HE WAS HURT.

SHE INSISTED THAT I STICK TO THE STICK TO THE PLAN.

SO I WILL TRY.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME UP.

MY NAME IS KEVIN ROBERTS.

I'M PRESIDENT OF THE NEWBURN AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE A REPUTATION FOR SOME TIME BEING A LITTLE LONG WINDED.

I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT TONIGHT.

I'M GOING TO, UH, I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE BRIEF, UH, AS I GUESS MAY HAVE BEEN SAID, OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN STATED ON THE AGENDA, UH, AT ONE LEVEL, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE FORBES MAGAZINE ARTICLE.

UH, BETTER STATED THOUGH, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THE COUNTY HAS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

UH, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT STEVE FORBES WAS HERE THE EARLY PART OF OCTOBER, UH, KIND OF LAYING OUT FOR US, AN INSERT, A SUPPLEMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE IN THE MARCH.

FORBES MAGAZINE WILL BE DISTRIBUTED GLOBALLY IN THE GLOBAL EDITION 4.3 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS.

19,000 OF THOSE ARE IN NORTH CAROLINA.

WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS THERE'S GOING TO BE A SEGMENT IN THAT ON EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA IS PURPOSES AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MARKETING FOR WHATEVER WE WANT TO USE IT FOR, BUT IT WILL BE IN THE GLOBAL MAGAZINE.

UH, AND WHAT THEY'RE BASICALLY DOING TO SELL AN AD SPACE.

IT'S LIKE, IT'S, IT IS PUBLISHING THAT SPACE IS GOING TO CREATE NARRATIVE SPACE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT.

UH, THE COUNTY HAS APPROVED FUNDING FOR HALF OF THIS TO, AND AT THAT POINT TO GIVE YOU SOME OF THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF IT, YOU CAN BUY A THIRD PAGE, A HALF PAGE OR A FULL PAGE AD, OH, WE ARE LOOKING AT A FULL PAGE AD, WHICH WILL COST APPROXIMATELY $50,000.

THAT'S OUR COST.

THAT'S NOT THE MARKET RATE.

THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY CAN GET.

OR THE COUNTY HAS APPROVED SPENDING HALF OF THAT.

I DON'T MEAN TO DIVE RIGHT INTO THOSE DETAILS, BUT I DID WANT TO SAY THAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE THAT.

AND THAT KIND OF PRESENTS US WITH PART OF THE OPPORTUNITY.

NUMBER ONE, THE OPPORTUNITY IS TO BE A PART OF THIS GLOBAL PUBLICATION, BUT THE OTHER PART IS WE'RE HALFWAY TO WHAT WE NEED.

AS I SAID EARLIER, THIS IS ALL ABOUT OPPORTUNITY.

UH, THIS IS FOR NATIONAL SHINY NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT ON THIS AREA.

WE WILL HAVE A LOCAL RIDER THAT WILL DO THE ARTICLE THAT WE'LL DO ALL THE WRITEUP.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF US TALKING ABOUT THIS AREA AND IT'S GOING TO BE SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON OUR AREA.

UNFORTUNATELY, ALL OF US ARE TOO ARE KEENLY AWARE THAT IN, IN RECENT HISTORY, MOST OF THE PUBLICATION, MOST OF THE ADVERTISEMENTS FOR MOST OF THE NOTORIETY THAT WE'VE HAD NATIONALLY HAS BEEN NEGATIVE.

UH, THE HURRICANES, THE FLOODING, UH, OUR WATER QUALITY.

THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PRINT, AND THEY'VE NOT REALLY SHOWN THE BEST OF LIGHTS, PARTICULARLY ON, ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

THIS IS A CHANCE FOR US TO SAY WHAT WE WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS AREA.

UH, ONE MIGHT ASK IN THIS SITUATION, GEE, THE MONEY MONEY'S TIGHT.

UH, AND THEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUE OF TOUGH TIMES VERSUS SMART MARKETING.

I THINK MOST MARKETING LEADERS WOULD TELL YOU THAT DURING TOUGH TIMES IS

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NOT THE TIME TO CURL UP IN A BALL.

THAT'S WHEN WE NEED TO BE SINGING OUR SONG.

THAT'S WHEN WE NEED TO BE TELLING OUR STORY, THE LOUDEST SO THAT WHEN THE GOOD TIMES COME BACK, THE MONEY STARTS FLOWING WELL AGAIN, OUR NAME IS OUT THERE IN THE SPOTLIGHT.

IT'S OUT THERE AT THE FOREFRONT.

SO TO THE ARGUMENT OF GEE, IT'S A BAD BUDGET YEAR.

WE HAD BUDGET MEETING AT THE CHAMBER THIS MORNING AND IT WAS A BLOODY MESS, BUT OH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO QUIT DOING THE THINGS THAT WE DO TO PROMOTE OURSELVES, TO PROMOTE THE AREA.

NOT DURING THESE TIMES.

UH, WE, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THE ENDORSEMENT, UH, NOT NECESSARILY DROPPING NAMES, BUT THERE'S A NATIONAL ADVERTISING AGENCY THAT HAS ROOTS IN THIS AREA.

UH, THIS GENTLEMEN HAS, HAS ENDORSED THIS IDEA SOUNDLY AND HAS OFFERED HIS ASSISTANCE.

UH, IF WE CAN GET THE FUNDS TOGETHER TO DO THIS THING, ALL OF US WERE, WERE PROBABLY TAUGHT AS A KID.

AND THOSE OF US THAT HAD KIDS NOW OR ARE TEACHING OUR KIDS, YOU KNOW, THE OLD THING ABOUT DON'T DO SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING IT.

YOU KNOW, IF ALL YOUR FRIENDS JUMPED OFF A MOUNTAIN, WOULD YOU RUN TO IT? AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE LESSON WE'VE ALL BEEN TEACHING.

THIS MAY BE ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A REACTIONARY.

I TRY TO BE VERY, VERY PROACTIVE AND ALL THAT I DO, BUT OTHER COUNTIES ARE WORKING HARD ON THIS.

UH, WHAT HAD TO BE DONE FIRST WAS TO GET ENOUGH CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS TO MAKE SURE THE SEGMENT HAPPENED AT SALE.

THAT'S BEEN DOING FACT, NUMBER ONE, THE SEGMENT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE CORE CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS, WHICH ARE TWICE THE PRICE OF ALL THE ADS LIKE THEY HAD, THAT WE WOULD BUY THAT'S THE SEGMENT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

NOW.

IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR FORBES TO LET THE, THESE, UH, THE COUNTIES AND DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES COME IN AT THE CUT RATE AND START SINGING THEIR SONGS.

OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING IT.

UH, MY WIFE IS FROM DUPLIN COUNTY WALLETS, 10 CITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU EVER KNOW IT, BUT SHE GETS WALTZ ENTERPRISE.

I GET HOME THIS AFTERNOON MORE THAN A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT, SHE HAS LAYING AT THE DINNER TABLE, DUPLIN COUNTY BOOKLET, DUPLIN AGREES TO PAY PORTION OF FORBES.

THEY HAD TO TELL THEIR STORY.

UH, THEY'VE GOT ABOUT THREE-FOURTHS THEIR MONEY.

THEIR COUNTY CAME UP WITH ABOUT 35,000 OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE 50, UH, WAYNE COUNTY, UH, HAS ALREADY REQUESTED THE FORM.

THE LAST STEP AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR MONEY AND AFTER YOU'RE READY TO COMMIT, THIS IS THE FORM YOU FILL OUT.

THEY'VE REQUESTED THAT FORM FROM LINDA AND THEY WERE ON THE PHONE WITH LINDA TODAY WITH SOME QUESTIONS, AS FAR AS FILLING IT OUT, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.

UH, EDGECUMBE COUNTY'S LOOKING AT IT QUARTER.

COUNTY'S LOOKING AT IT.

WOULD IT LOOK BAD IF THESE OTHER CAMP, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY BAD IF WE'RE THE ONLY ONE IN THERE SELF CENTERED OR BEING A LITTLE BIT SELF-SERVING.

IF WE WERE THE ONLY COUNTY TO GO OUT IN THIS GLOBAL PUBLICATION, I'D PROBABLY SMILE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY BAD.

IF THERE'S A SUPPLEMENT ABOUT EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA, THAT GOES OUT TO THE WORLD, TO THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE DECISIONS ON WHERE TO INVEST MONEY, WHERE TO RELOCATE THEIR BUSINESSES, WHERE THOSE TYPE BUSINESS DECISIONS ARE MADE AND ANY COUNTY IN THIS AREA IS HIGHLIGHTED.

AND WE ARE NOT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN LIVE WITH THAT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A BAD THING FOR US.

UH, A QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN POSED OF, I MEAN, I ALWAYS TRY TO ADDRESS ISSUES UPFRONT.

WILL THERE EVER BE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR US? WE DON'T IMMEDIATELY.

WE JUST DON'T.

I DON'T PRETEND TO MEAN THAT THIS IS THE FIRST THING THAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS AREA.

IT'S NOT THE FIRST, I DON'T PRETEND TO MEAN THAT IT'S THE LAST THING THAT'LL EVER BE DONE FOR THIS AREA IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT IS IT ONE PIECE AND IS IT ONE BIG PIECE? IT ABSOLUTELY IS.

UH, WILL THERE EVER BE A STREAM OF DATA A YEAR FROM NOW TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THAT I'LL BE ABLE TO COME SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, GEE, LOOK, LOOK AT THE BUSINESSES THAT CAME AND BE ABLE TO TRACK THAT DIRECTLY BACK TO THIS, TO THIS, UH, SEGMENT AND FORBES.

NO, BUT EVERY ONE OF US THAT HAVE EVER DONE ANY BUSINESS, PART OF WHAT YOU DO IS BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.

YOU PLANT A SEED TODAY, YOU PLANT A SEED TODAY, YOU PLANT A SEED TODAY AND EVENTUALLY SOME OF THEM SPRING UP AND PRODUCE FRUIT FOR YOU.

THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING, THIS IS A SEED THAT WE NEED TO PLANT.

UH, THE OPPORTUNITY IN ITSELF IS GOOD AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO THIS PART OF THE STATE IS GOING TO BE RECOGNIZED.

THE OTHER PART OF THE OPPORTUNITY THAT'S THERE FOR US IS HALF THE MONEY THAT WE NEED.

WE HAVE, OH, I NEED, WE NEED $24,000.

AND I HAVE, I WILL TELL YOU, I HAVE THAT.

I CAN LEAVE WITH YOU, JUST SOME INFORMATION WITH SOME OF THE DETAILS AS TO THE COSTS.

I CAN LEAVE THOSE HERE.

I WISH THAT I HAD A DOZEN OR SO OF THESE TO LEAVE, BUT WE DON'T.

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THEY PROVIDE US VERY FEW.

THIS WAS THE ONE ON SAVANNAH.

WE WILL BE AT A SUPPLY THESE TO USE AT A COUNTY LEVEL OF CITY LEVEL CHAMBER, WHEREVER FOR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS.

UH, I SUPPOSE IF WE WANTED TO ROUTE IT THROUGH AND LET YOU GLANCE AT IT, BUT WE DO NEED TO GET THIS BACK.

OH, I GUESS WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR TRY TO, YES, SIR.

UM, WHO, WHO ARE YOU APPROACHING FOR THE OTHER HALF STARTED HERE? I MEAN, THIS WAS THE FIRST MAJOR, UH, FIRST FORMAL PRESENTATION I'VE MADE SINCE WE GOT THE COUNTY FUNDING.

WHY ARE WE GOING TO HAVE BLOCK? UH, I HAVE TALKED OVER THE PHONE AND DONE SOME EMAILING WITH, UH, THE BASE, UH, AND WE'VE NOT NARROWED OUR LIST DOWN AT THIS POINT.

AND THE LIST IS WIDE, THE BOARD OF REALTORS.

UH, WE'RE SPEAKING TO THE TDA BOARD IN THE MORNING.

UH, I WILL, EXCUSE ME.

I'VE SPOKEN TO MY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AT THE CHAMBER.

AND THEN WHAT ABOUT TRENT LEWIS RIVER BANNON AND THOSE, THOSE, THEY WERE ON OUR LIST.

THE THOUGHT THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

I MEAN, I LIVE IN TRENT WOODS.

NO, NO POOR REFLECTION ON THEM.

UH, THINGS OF THIS NATURE.

AND I THINK THE EXAMPLE WE USED WAS THE PEPSI CELEBRATION.

IT, WE DIDN'T GET VERY FAR OFF THE GROUND THERE, BUT THAT HAS NOT KEPT US FROM PUTTING THEM ON THE LIST.

UH, YOU KNOW, I I'M, I'M ALL FOR WHAT YOU WORKING FOR, BUT I DON'T THINK SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE Y'ALL ALWAYS GET A FREE RIDE, EITHER A RIM, A BAN TRENTWOOD, AND THOSE PLACES, THEY BENEFIT AS MUCH AS NEWMAN AND THE REST OF THE COUNTY IN AN ADBLOCK ABSOLUTE WHEN I'M PERFECTLY WILLING ON MY PHONE IN THE MORNING PARTICIPATE.

I THINK THE OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD PARTICIPATE ON AND I WOULD NOT DISAGREE.

I THINK THE THING THAT WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WE'LL HAVE TO SOMEHOW COME TOGETHER, UH, AND I WILL PRESENT IT TO THEM.

UH, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, I WILL GO TO THEM JUST LIKE I AM TO YOU TONIGHT AND ASK THEM TO DO SOMETHING.

UH, BUT HERE'S THE CATCH IN THAT SCORE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN IRRITATING TO SOME, NOTHING WE COULD DO ABOUT IT.

OUR DEADLINES, JANUARY 3RD, THE REASON THE DEADLINE COMES UP THAT QUICKLY IS, AS I SAID BEFORE, THE CORPORATE PART, A PIECE OF THIS HAD TO BE IN PLACE FIRST.

IT WOULD QUITE LITERALLY HAVE BEEN A WASTE OF YOUR TIME FOR ME TO COME AND TALK TO YOU IF WE WEREN'T EVEN QUITE SURE THAT THE SUPPLEMENT ITSELF WERE GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO THE CORPORATE PIECE HAD TO BE IN PLACE FIRST.

AND NONE OF THIS STARTED UNTIL ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER.

WELL, I FEEL LIKE MAYBE I HAVE, LIKE, YOU WISH TO SHARE A LARGER PART AND MAYBE TRADE SOME OF THE OTHER.

BUT IF YOU HAD HAD A SCALE THAT YOU WOULD ASK EACH ONE OF THESE AREAS SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, EACH BOARD WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK FROM RATHER THAN JUST THROW IT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT THE F THE FIRST, THE FIRST, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, WE WE'VE RUINED MANY GOOD PENCILS AND ERASERS ON THIS THING TOWARDS THAT VERY GOAL COMING UP WITH, YOU KNOW, A COUNTY LEVEL, POSSIBLY A, A NEW-BORN AND A HALF LOCK IN THE BASE FIGURED SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

AND THEN BELOW THAT TRICKLING DOWN TO WHETHER IT BE 2000, 2,500, A PIECE FOR TDA CHAMBER, TRENTWOOD, RIVER, WHATEVER.

AND I THINK THERE'S SOME LOGIC IN THAT.

UH, I MEAN, I HATE TO BE LIMITING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON IT.

UH, I CERTAINLY, UH, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO DO THEIR PART.

YES.

I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE FAIR, BUT I THINK THERE'S MORE TO THE, JUST LIKE FAIR IS FAIR WOULD, WOULD BE ALL I WOULD ASK, UH, FORBES MAGAZINE.

WHO, WHO, WHO IS THE MAGAZINE? WHAT GROUP WOULD IT BE MAGAZINE OR ISN'T MAGAZINE GEARED TO? AND WHAT ARE YOU HOPING TO PULL FROM THIS AD IT'S GEARED TOWARDS, UH, YOU HAVE CEOS, BUSINESS LEADERS, COMMUNITY PLANNERS, THINGS LIKE, UH, INDIVIDUALS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT, AND I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS AS FAR AS SPECIFIC.

I THINK THEY ARE IN THIS INSERT THAT I'VE GOT 40 MINUTES, UH, IT'S BUSINESS LEADERS.

A LOT OF THEM ARE SENIOR BUSINESS LEADERS.

SOME OF THEM ARE NOT RETIRED, BUT IN THAT PHASE WHERE THEY ARE HELPING TO, UH, MAKE JUST MORE OR LESS INVESTMENT DECISIONS FOR BUSINESSES, RELOCATION DECISIONS FOR BUSINESSES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND OUR INTENT IS NOT JUST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

CLEARLY.

IT'S A BIG PIECE OF IT.

CLEARLY WE HOPE, AS I SAID BEFORE, WE PLAN TO SEE THAT AT SOME POINT THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT SEE THIS ANYWHERE.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT AFTER LAST WEEK'S ANNOUNCEMENT, UH, WITH THE GOVERNOR AND BSH, THAT CITY OF NEWBURN WAS, WAS ON EVERY NEWSPAPER IN, IN GERMANY.

I MEAN, IT WAS A BIG THING.

SO OVERSEAS COMPANIES DO VERY MUCH LOOK AT THIS AREA.

THIS WILL HEIGHTEN SOME OF THAT AWARENESS.

I MEAN, WE KNOW THIS AREA.

I MEAN, A LOT OF US GREW UP RIGHT HERE.

WE KNOW IT.

WE THINK IT'S WONDERFUL.

WE LOVE THE WATERWAYS.

WE LOVE ALL THE LITTLE NUANCES THAT EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA PROVIDES.

A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO KNOW ANYTHING, IT HAS A NEGATIVE SPIN ON IT.

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WELL, I WAS, I WAS HOPING THAT IT WOULD BE GEARED TOWARD THAT BECAUSE NOT TO SAY YOU'RE WRONG, BUT A LOT OF ARTICLES I SEE ABOUT NEW ROOM POSITIVE.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S COMING FROM THE RETAIL AREA.

I MEAN, FROM, FROM THE REAL ESTATE GROUP, AND IT'S BEEN VERY POSITIVE FOR THE RETIREES.

I AGREE.

OKAY.

SO I'M HOPING THAT IF THIS AD IS GOING TO BE GEARED FOR BUSINESSES, BECAUSE I RETIREES AND FINDING NEW NEWER, THE RETIREES ARE FINDING IS JUST NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

SO IF THIS HAS BEEN THIS ACCIDENT AND SOMETHING THAT WE, THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO, BUT I'M LIKE BILL, UM, IT'S, UH, I'M HOPING WE'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER SOURCES TO HELP FUND THIS.

AND OTHER THING THAT WE GET CAUGHT UP WITH AND THE CITY, MAN, I MEAN THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TELL YOU, IT'S HARD FOR US TO DECIDE ON MONIES WHEN YOU ONLY GET 15 DAYS TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

I AGREE.

AND I'M SORRY, YOU NEED THE, YOU NEED TO ANSWER BY JANUARY 3RD.

YES, SIR.

THAT'S THE AWKWARD, AWKWARD SPOT THAT WE WERE PUTTING IN AFTER TONIGHT.

WE DON'T MEET AGAIN ON THAT.

NO, THIS HAS BEEN SO, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK FROM HIS POINT, PROBABLY TAKE SOME LEAD FROM CITY MANAGER AND FINANCE TO SEE IF SOMETHING IS VELVET, THEN I GUESS WE'LL PROBABLY THROW UP.

WE, UH, LINDA AND I WERE AFTER WE GOT THE WORD FROM THE COUNTY, WE WERE OBVIOUSLY THE NEXT DAY WE WERE IN HER OFFICE TRYING TO PLAN, OKAY, WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? I MADE THE PHONE CALL HERE.

AND IT WAS THE LAST DAY.

IT WAS JUST LUCK.

I SUPPOSE.

IT WAS THE LAST DAY THAT WE WERE ABLE, YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET ON YOUR AGENDA.

TIME IS, AND IT'S EMBARRASSING.

AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

HAD THERE BEEN SOME CONTROL WE COULD HAVE EXERTED OVER IT.

TRUST ME.

WE WOULD HAVE.

CAUSE AT THIS POINT IT'S GOING TO CHRISTMAS VACATION.

EVERYTHING IS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE THINKING ABOUT IS GETTING THIS AD DONE.

OKAY.

NUMBER ONE, THE WHOLE CRAVEN COUNTY.

FAIR QUESTION.

I, AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION AT FIRST, WE WILL GO AND WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE PREPARED AND WE BOUNCED A LOT IDEAS AROUND.

I AM ABSOLUTELY THE WORST.

AS FAR AS CREATIVE THINKING THAT YOU'LL EVER MEET.

I'M HORRIBLE AT IT.

SO ANYTHING THAT I'VE TRIED TO DO, WE TRASHED, UH, WE WILL HAVE A PROFESSIONALLY PREPARED, UH, AD THAT I CAN'T SIT HERE AND TELL YOU WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.

THE INTENT IS TO PROMOTE THE COUNTY AND ALL OF ITS GOODNESS.

I MEAN, THAT MAY SOUND A LITTLE WORN OUT, BUT THAT'S THE INTENT.

THAT IS A, IF YOU CAN SEE THAT IS A ONE PAGE.

WELL, THAT, THAT RIGHT THERE, THAT'S ONE PAGE THAT YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE OR, I MEAN THAT TECHNICALLY IS CONSIDERED A ONE PAGE AD FOLKS IN THE MIDDLE.

I'M FINE.

I'M VERY PARTIAL TOWARDS THAT KIND OF SPRAY BECAUSE IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE MORE THAN ONE PAGE.

THEM, HOPEFULLY MONEY LOOKS LIKE A SHORTER, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT IS TECHNICALLY A ONE PAGE.

AND THIS IS, UH, THIS IS THE SOUTH EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA ENTITY.

THAT'S PUTTING THIS AD TOGETHER.

THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF THEIR FIRST BUSHES AT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

UH, IS THIS A FOREVER AD OR IS THIS JUST A ONE-TIME SHOT FOR $50,000 ONE TIME, ONE PAGE.

AND I GOT TO LOOK AT IT FROM A REALISTIC STANDPOINT.

IT MAY BE A GREAT IDEA.

WE MAY GET 50,000 NEW PEOPLE, WHICH IS NOT REALLY A GOOD IDEA, LIKE A ONE TIME SHOT FOR THAT KIND OF MONEY.

AND A LOT OF MY FRIENDS DON'T READ FOR A, WE'RE NOT THAT INTELLECTUAL ARE NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE CEO LEVEL.

AND I WANT ALL THE CEOS TO RETIRE AND COME HERE TO NEWBURN.

I'M NOT SURE THAT $50,000 IS NOTHING TOO MUCH BANG FOR THEM.

FAIR, FAIR ENOUGH.

BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

MAY I CLARIFY SOMETHING SOME OF THE, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $50,000 IN ONE PAGE, BECAUSE ALL THOSE YEARS I SPENT IN THE MEDIA, I LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

JUST TO EXPLAIN HOW IT WORKS.

ALL ADVERTISING IS COST IS BASED ON A COST PER 1000 PEOPLE REACHED.

THIS IS WHY THE RATING PERIODS FOR TELEVISION STATIONS ARE SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE STATISTICS GATHERED, DETERMINE HOW MANY VIEWERS THEY HAVE AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY CAN CHARGE FOR A 32ND OR A 62ND COMMERCIAL HAS TO BE BASED ON THAT FIGURE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE'S IS BASED ON.

AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUY A 32ND COMMERCIAL.

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IT REACHES 10,000 PEOPLE AND PAY ONE FIGURE FOR IT.

IF THEY CAN BUY OR ANOTHER STATION AND REACH 20,000 PEOPLE FOR THE SAME FIGURE.

IT'S BASED ON A COST PER THOUSAND.

AND THEY HAVE, UH, THE PUBLISHING, THE PUBLISHERS ASSOCIATIONS HAVE AUDITING FIRMS, WHICH VERIFY.

AND YOU'VE SEEN IN THE MAGAZINES, A LITTLE VERIFICATION, CIRCULATION AND EVERYTHING VERIFY HOW MANY SUBSCRIBERS, HOW MANY ISSUES ARE SOLD EACH MONTH.

HOW MANY ISSUES ARE GIVEN FREE TO TRADES, ET CETERA, OR A TOTAL NUMBER OF READERS.

AND THEN THEIR ADVERTISING COST HAS TO BE BASED ON COST PER THOUSAND READERS.

SO IF THEY'RE CHARGING $50,000 FOR ONE PAGE, WELL THAT'S MUSIC CUT RATE ANYWAY.

BUT IF THEIR BASIC RATE, THEIR FULL-SCALE RATE IS BASED ON WHAT, HOW IT RELATES TO EVERY OTHER MAGAZINE, WHO'S TRYING TO REACH THE SAME PEOPLE.

SO ONE MAGAZINE CAN JACK UP THEIR PRICES HIGH IF THEY'RE NOT REACHING MORE VIEWER, MORE READERS BECAUSE NOBODY WILL BUY IT.

SO THE IDEA THAT A GIVEN PRICE IS HIGH HAS TO BE MEASURED IN THAT COST THOUSANDS OF COST PER THOUSAND READERS, OR IN THE CASE OF TELEVISION VIEWERS, THEY PAY, THEY PAY A MILLION DOLLARS UP FOR A COMMERCIAL, ONE COMMERCIAL ON TELEVISION DURING THE SUPER BOWL, BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON COST PER THOUSAND.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE $50,000 OR THE FULL REBALANCE RATE COMES FROM IT.

OH RIGHT ON THE TAIL END OF THAT, TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE TO THE, TO THE PEPSI AND TO THE, UH, TO THE, UH, WEYERHAEUSER, TO THE PROGRESS ENERGY, TO THE CORPORATE FULL PAGES, 90, $94,600, THAT'S A FULL PAGE, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UH, SO IT'S REACHING A LOT OF READERS TO TWO POINTS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID HAS MERIT, UH, TWO POINTS ON WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE ONE-SHOT DEAL.

YES.

IT'S ONE PUBLICATION WE WILL GET, WE WILL GET COPIES OF THE COLOR INSERT THAT I'M HOPING IS SOMEWHERE HERE.

OKAY.

WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET COPIES OF THAT TO USE NORTH CAROLINA EAST, WHICH IS A COALITION OF, OF ENTITIES IN THE, IN THE, IN THE STATE.

WE'LL GET A BIGGER SUPPLY THAT IT'S GOING TO PUT IN FRONT OF THE NORTH END DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE THAT IT'S GOING TO PUT IN FRONT OF THE NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TOURISM.

SO WE WON'T HAVE TO USE OUR COPIES TO GIVE TO THE STATE, TO GIVE TO PEOPLE THAT CALL INQUIRING WE'LL HAVE COPIES HERE TO USE.

SO WHILE IT'S ONE, IT ONE EDITION OF THE MAGAZINE, IT'S NOT ONE SHOT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT SUPPLEMENT, UH, MANY, MANY TIMES TO GIVE YOU THE SOUND.

WE GET A CERTAIN, WE GET A CERTAIN NUMBER FOR DOING IT.

YES, SIR.

WE CAN BUY EXTRAS, BUT WE GET A CERTAIN NUMBER FOR JUST DOING IT.

FOLLOWING THE WALK.

MR. PARAM SAID, AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT WAS ITS PURPOSE? WHAT, WHAT WAS OUR DESIRED OUTCOME? CLEARLY WE WANT GOOD, HEALTHY ECONOMIC GROWTH.

OKAY.

THAT COMES FROM SEVERAL COMPONENTS, PURELY ECONOMIC AND INDUSTRY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YES, BUT THOSE CEOS, UH, THEY MAY NOT RELOCATE A BIT.

THEY MAY RELOCATE A BUSINESS, BUT THEY MAY DECIDE TO RETIRE HERE THAT WE KNOW WE MAY NOT BE FOCUSING ON RETIRED PEOPLE, BUT THOSE PEOPLE BRING GOOD THINGS TO A COMMUNITY WHEN THEY DECIDED TO RETIRE HERE.

I MEAN, AS WE'VE BENEFITED FROM THEM.

SO THERE'S ALL, ALL KINDS OF LITTLE FINGERS THAT WOULD REACH OUT FROM IT.

IT'S IT GETS IN FRONT OF A LOT OF EYES.

MOST OF THE EYES EITHER HAVE A LOT OF CORPORATE MONEY TO DO SOMETHING WITH, OR A LOT OF PERSONAL MONEY TO DO SOMETHING WITH MR. MAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND FIND OUT A WEEK NOW OR LATER WHAT THEIR RESPONSE HAS BEEN SOME OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES OR THE INDUSTRIES, BECAUSE OF COURSE, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THIS, THE COUNTY IS SPENDING X AMOUNT OF MONEY.

LAST FIGURE I HAD SOMETHING LIKE 24% OF THAT IS COMING FROM THE TAXPAYERS OF NEWBURGH, 24% OF WHAT THEY SPEND.

I DIDN'T SEE THAT FIGURE.

UH, IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? WELL, IT'S MORE THAN THAT NOW.

SO WE'RE ALREADY INVESTED IN THAT WE PAID DOWN THE TAXES.

SO ONCE WE FIND OUT THAT SOME OF THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHO WILL ALSO BENEFIT IF THERE IS ANY BENEFIT AND THERE SHOULD BE, OF COURSE I DON'T BELIEVER IN THE ADVERTISING ASPECT OF IT.

IF WE, IF YOU GET RESPONSES FROM THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT SHOW THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SIT BACK AND LAUGH AND SAY LIKE UBER PAY ALL THE REST OF IT, THEN I THINK WE COULD REALLY, WE COULD POSSIBLY COME UP WITH A, WITH A, WITH A VOTE, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING SCHEDULED AND A TIME TO COVER YOUR TIME TABLE, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY, LET ME TRY THIS OUT.

INSTEAD OF WAITING TO SEE WHAT THESE OTHER PEOPLE DO AND ASK ALL MY SUPPORTERS TO TAKE UP SLACK AND BE IN THE POSITION THAT IF WE DON'T COME UP WITH ANY WAY IT WAS TO KILL THE, HEY,

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THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO DO THAT AND ASK FOR US TO PUT FORWARD X AMOUNT OF MONEY TONIGHT AND LET THESE OTHER PEOPLE COME FORWARD WITH A MISSING THEM OUT.

AND IF THEY KNOW THEY'RE THE ONES TO KILL THEM, AND I'D RATHER BE IN THAT POSITION WHERE YOU EXPECT THEM TO GET THIS, CAN I SELL YOU? THIS GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY.

I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEEM LIKE I INTENDED TO COME UP HERE AND INSULT ALL OF YOU.

OH, RIGHT.

A HAND LIKE DANIEL BOONE.

OH, I KNOW WHAT I SAID.

WE NEED 24.

THERE WAS NO WAY.

I MEAN, I LIVE A PRETTY OPTIMISTIC LIFE.

THERE WAS NO WAY I'D EXPECTED THE COUNTY TO DO HALF IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH TO COME UP AND DO THAT FINE LINE BETWEEN MOST FUCKS, MOST BUGS, DEEP DOWN, SOMEWHERE INSIDE AND SOMETHING NUMBER IN MIND.

AND WHAT YOU SAY, THESE PEOPLE HAVE A VERY GOOD POINT AND THAT IS FALLING.

NUMBER ONE, A LOT OF THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES, BASICALLY WHAT'S THE COUNTY GOING TO DO AND THEN WANTS TO SAY TO YOU WHEN Y'ALL DO HAVE A LOT, MAYBE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE.

AND THAT'S OUR CHARGE IS TO LOOK AFTER FIRST, THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

AND THEN WE HAVE PAID 28%.

AND I THINK IT IS, OR WHATEVER, WHEN THE COUNTY GAVE YOU THE MONEY, WHICH IS ALL WELL AND GOOD.

THE OTHER THING WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL, BLAME, WHERE IT CENSUS A ONE PAGE.

I AM SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO DECIDE HOW MUCH NEED WHEN IT GETS MENTIONED, OR MAYBE EVEN DOESN'T GET MENTIONED AT ALL.

SO SOMEBODY ON THE STREET MIGHT ASK ME WHAT I WAS DOING AND SPENDING MONEY FOR SOMETHING.

AND WHAT DID IT SAY? AND ALL THE TIME CAN'T EVEN TELL HIM WHAT IT'S GOING TO SAY.

SO MY POINT IS, I THINK WE ALL READ SOME, SO WE DON'T HOLD THIS PROCESS.

RACHEL RESOLUTION DENYING HOW MUCH MONEY WE WANT TO PUT IN IT, PUT FORTH OUR AGREEMENT OF WHAT WE'LL PUT IN IT.

AND THEN YOU ALL CAN TELL THE REST OF THEM THAT WE MADE OUR MOVE, THE COUNTY'S MAINTENANCE MOVE, LET THEM MAKE A MOVE.

INSTEAD OF US ALWAYS BEING LEFT AND THEY NEED TO COME ALONG AND CLEAN UP WHAT'S LEFT IS ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY.

AND, AND THEREFORE, UH, YOU KNOW, LET DOWN THIS BEING AN ELLA FELLOW EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THE ONLY THING TO DISCUSS IS HOW MUCH WE NEED TO PUT IN IT.

UH, IS A REAL NUMBER, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE THING FOR US TO GET OUR, OUR STORY OUT THERE WITH THE REALIZATION THAT SOMEBODY ELSE OBVIOUSLY IS WRITING THE STORY.

I CAN'T STAND OR BELIEVE THAT A STORY WOULD BE WRITTEN ABOUT CRAVE COUNTY AND LEAVE ME WHEN I WAS COUNTING.

THE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED.

WELL, UH, ANOTHER BAD ASPECT OF THE TIMING IS IT TO BEEN MIGHTY NICE.

IF I COULD'VE COME IN HERE WITH SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT I JUST SHOWED YOU ABOUT, HERE'S WHAT IT UNDERSTAND.

HERE'S HERE'S 25 OR 25% OF THE WAY DOWN THE ROAD FOR WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

WE REALLY BEEN BLINDSIDED.

AS FAR AS THE TIMING YOU'VE GOT TO FIGURE.

AND I MEAN, YOU GOT TO FIGURE THE HISTORICAL COMPONENT OF NEWBURN OFFERS THE COUNTY SEAT.

I MEAN, WE COULD GO ON AND ON AND HE GOT TO FIGURE THAT NO, ONE'S GOING TO GET RECOGNIZED IN THE AID.

IT'D BE HARD TO CALL THAT A PROFESSIONAL AD ON CRAVEN COUNTY AND IT WILL BE PROFESSIONALLY DONE.

UH, I, BUT, BUT LET ME SAY, UH, POSSIBLE.

AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED, THE COUNTY FOLKS YOU SELL, EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO DO AND US TO DO THE RIGHT THING, TO PROMOTE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROUD OF.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE COUNTY WE LIVE IN.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

I THINK IT'S JUST COME TO SOME RESOLUTION HOW MUCH MONEY OR WHATEVER WE'RE WILLING TO PUT IN IT, BASED ON THE SHORT NOTICE AND THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT, THAT OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BENEFIT FROM, FROM ANY OF SPINEL CALVES FROM THIS THING, PEOPLE MIGHT GET LIVING IN THIS OLD BUILDING HOUSES OR CONSTRUCTION OR WHATEVER, AND MAYBE THEY'LL HELP TO, I THINK THE MOST TONIGHT NOT BEING AS FAMILIAR WITH WESTERN CLASS, WHERE WE HAVE MONEY PLACE IS THE WEEK WE CAN PROBABLY ADOPT A RESOLUTION.

THAT'D BE SUPPORT.

YEAH.

I DID SUPPORT THE IDEA AND GIVE IT TO .

I LEARNED YEARS AGO, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME SELLING ANYTHING TO A GUY WHO AIN'T GOT ANY MONEY.

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SO A LITTLE SACK, CAREFUL, CAREFUL.

WE GOT SOME MONEY BACK AT HOW MUCH, WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THIS MARILYN TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PUT A CONTINGENCY $10,000 TOWARDS AD WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE REMAINDER OF THE COST OF THE AIR WILL BE, UH, COVERED BY OTHER AGENCIES.

AND SECOND, THAT THE AD BE PRE THAT THE CITY OF NEWBURGH SEE THE AD FOOTPRINT.

COULD WE HAVE SUBMITTED THAT TO SAY IT, THE NEWMAN WOULD HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE END? THE REASON, ONE REASON I SAY THAT IS I REMEMBER THIS GOD WILMINGTON DID THAT SONG OR NORTH CAROLINA, YOU KNOW, AND NAMED ALL THE CITIES KNOW HE DIDN'T NAME AND HE DIDN'T NAME NEW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SET THERE'S THE LAST STANDS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN FOR THAT.

WHAT'S THE SONG THAT THEY'VE JUST NORTH CAROLINA IS, AND THEY'VE ADDED A STANDS THAT INCLUDE THE EASTERN PART OF THE STATE.

SO $10,000 TO LEAVE YOU WITH YOU TAKE THE FIVE BY THAT 1400 TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, BRING THIS UP AT VERY BEGINNING.

I SAID, I WAS NOT AGAINST THIS PROJECT, BUT I DO GET TIRED ALL THE YEARS SITTING FROM THIS BOARD TO WHERE NEWMAN WINDS UP, SHELLING OUT MONEY, AND THEN THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO NOT, BUT THEY GET A FREE RIDE ON TOP OF US.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

AND, UH, UH, UH, I ONLY REASON I'M SECOND IN THIS VOTE, UH, IS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE OTHER ONES WILL PROBABLY COME UP WITH IF THEY DON'T AND IT'S A DEAD ISSUE ANYWAY, I WON'T VOTE TO COME BACK FOR ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY.

MR. LEE CLARIFICATION.

YES, SIR.

UM, WILL I NOTICE IN THIS SUPPLEMENT, THERE ARE A LOT OF ADS FROM INDUSTRIES.

WE'LL, INDUSTRY'S PUTTING ADS IN THE HAIR CUT INTO THAT 50,000, OR IS THIS TOTALLY EXCLUSIVE OF ANY INDUSTRY LIKE HATTERAS OR BOSCH OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT CUTS INTO IT? YOU TALKING ABOUT THE AD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, IT'S A CRAVEN COUNTY AID, NOT COMMERCIALLY.

IT IS NOT, UH, IT IS NOT TO USE YOUR EXAMPLE.

IT'S NOT THAT HATTERAS IS LOCATED IN CRAVEN COUNTY IN THE INSERT THOUGH.

INDUSTRY WILL HAVE AN OH SURE.

THAT'S BEEN DONE.

THAT'S IN FACT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MAKES THAT'S THE FIRST SALE THAT GETS OFF THAT'S HOW FULL IT WAS CAME FORWARD.

AND LINDA'S POINT, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MAKE THAT CLEAR.

THERE IS A LOT OF NARRATIVE.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THIS THING IS REALLY ABOUT.

THE MORE AD SPACE WE SELL, THE MORE NARRATIVE THERE IS, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET TO PARTICULARLY THE PEOPLE THAT DO ADS ARE GOING TO GET, IT HELPED DICTATE WHAT'S TALKED ABOUT.

SO NOT JUST IN THE AD ITSELF, BUT IN THE NARRATIVE, THE HISTORIC NEW-BORN WILL CLEARLY BE PORTABLE.

WE GAVE YOU 10,000 TO NINE.

THE COUNTY IS 21, 24.

WE'RE JUST UNDER 24 AND WE'D COME UP WITH 10 AND I ASKED YOU FIRST TWO TEMPS, RIGHT? OKAY.

LADIES, $14,000, EVERY ENTITY IN THE CAMP.

I MEAN, DOES THAT GIVE YOU ALL ENOUGH TO WORK WITH? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.

I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.

I WE'VE HAD A .

CAN I HEAR THE MOTION RESTATED? WE DON'T CHARGE YOU.

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WE HAD A MOTION WAS THAT THE CITY PUT A CONTINUES TO $10,000, UH, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT NEWBURN ISN'T MENTIONED IN A, DID YOU GET TO SEE YOU? AND WE GET TO SEE THE AD BEFORE SPRINT I'M SEEING IT, OR I DON'T GUESS WE CAN'T HAVE ANY REAL EDITORIAL CONTROL, BUT ANYWAY, IT'D BE NICE.

OKAY.

THEY HAVE A SECOND.

YEAH.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION LAKE TO FIGURE 7,500 BECAUSE LEAVING 1400 FOR HAVELOCK TRIM, RIVERBED 14,000 FOR HAVELOCK TRAMP WOODS BRIDGED AND WHO HAS PLENTY OF LAND OVER THERE FOR DEVELOPMENT, ET CETERA, IS REALLY PUTTING THE WE'RE NO BIGGER POPULATION RYAN WISE, REALLY TO SPEAK OF THAN HALF BLOCK.

AND THEY'RE WORKING HARD FOR INDUSTRY DOWN THERE.

AND I THINK IF THEY COME UP WITH THE 10,000, THEN WE'RE LETTING EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY OFF.

BUT IF THEY CAN'T COME UP WITH, DO I HEAR A SECOND ON MAX TO SUBSTITUTE? YOU MIGHT AS WELL CALL THE ROAD JUST FOR THE EXERCISE.

YES, YES, YES, YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANY WAY POSSIBLY, POSSIBLY TALK TO MR. SAMPSON TO SEE IF THEY UPDATE HANDY IT IN THESE TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING? YEAH.

DO YOU WANT YOUR THING? DID YOU WANT YOUR COPY OF THE BROCHURE? A BAG? I THINK IN THE FUTURE, WE NEEDED TO GET TO SIT IN MANNER, VICKY TO COME UP.

WE'LL TALK BASED ON ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY, ANY TIME A PROJECT COMES UP OR THE COUNTY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE FORMULA FOR RATES, OUR CLASSICAL SHARE, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME THIS COMES UP IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS, WE'VE ALWAYS GONE IN THE COUNTY.

BUT, UH, I THINK, I THINK THERE WAS ENOUGH TO TIP STICKS ON POPULATION THAT WE CAN JUST PRORATE IT.

AND V COMMONLY, IS THAT THE WAY OF FIGURING WHITE? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I JUST FOUND THAT IT WAS A PAINFUL MAYBE AND WHATEVER COMMON WAY OF DOING IT IS NOT LIKE ROBIN'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE DON'T STEP UP TO THE PLATE, I WON'T KNOW WHO EVERYBODY IS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT.

EXCELLENT.

AND WE HAVE AS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO CONSIDER APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY TO OPERATE A TAXI CAB AND THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY HERE MAKE ANY COMMENT ON THAT? UH, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT THAT WAS TO MAKE A MOTION OF THE FIRST RATING OF MR. MAYOR.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING.

SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COLDWELL PLEASE.

MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT THING WE HAVE IS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ON THE TRANSFER OF INDUSTRIAL PARK SEWER SYSTEM TO THE CITY OF NEW MOTION TO SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MAN.

YES, YES, YES, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT THING WE HAVE IS DISCUSS PROPOSED THE STATE TAX REFUND DEBT SET OFF PROGRAM FOR COLLECTION OF DELINQUENT DEBT.

YES MA'AM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF NEWBURGH TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STATE TAX REFUND DEBT SET OFF PROGRAM FOR COLLECTION OF DELINQUENT DEBTS.

THE PROGRAM IS SPONSORED BY THE NORTH CAROLINA LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITIES AND THE NORTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

WITH THIS PROGRAM, THE CITY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO SUBMIT FOR COLLECTION ANY AND ALL DELINQUENT DEBTS, SUCH AS TAXES, TAX LIENS, UTILITY SERVICES, DEBTS THAT WOULD BE

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ACCRUED THROUGH A CONTRACT, JUST REALLY ANY DEBTS THAT ARE OWED US.

UM, IF AN OWED THE CITY, A DATA AT LEAST $50, THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IN ORDER TO, UM, SUBMIT THE DEBT.

AND HE, OR SHE RECEIVED A STATE TAX REFUND.

THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COLLECT OUR MONEY THAT'S OWED TO US IF WE HAD THE, UM, INDIVIDUAL'S FULL NAME AND THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, WHICH WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

THIS IS, THIS IS THIS TEXAS, UM, JUST PERSONAL ATTACKS, RIGHT? YOUR INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX.

WHEN YOU FILE YOUR INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX, WE WOULD TAKE PART OF THAT.

IF, IF YOU OWED THE DEBT TO US, TO THE CITY, WE WOULD TAKE PART OF THAT BY PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM.

WELL, THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM.

IT IS JUST GETTING STARTED.

THIS WILL BE THE FIRST YEAR, THE 2001 TAX YEAR, THE FIRST YEAR THAT, UM, YOU COULD PARTICIPATE.

AND, UM, SO FAR I KNOW THAT THE, UH, COUNTY CRAVEN COUNTY HAS ALREADY APPROVED THEIR RESOLUTION AND, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET HOURS.

AND, UM, THIS IS BASED ON, UH, AFTER THE WELL STATE AGENCIES WILL COME FIRST.

UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING OWED THEM AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BE BASICALLY ON A FIRST COME, WHO GETS THEIR DEBT IN FIRST.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GO AHEAD AND GET APPROVED FOR THE PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN, UM, SEND OUT LETTERS.

WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE, UM, INDIVIDUAL THAT WE PLAN TO SUBMIT, PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM AND WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THEIR DEBT.

SO WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THAT NOTICE.

AND THEN ANY DEBT HAS TO BE 60 DAYS DELINQUENT BEFORE WE COULD SUBMIT IT TO THE PROGRAMS. SO WE'VE GOT LETTERS AND THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET OUT BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A SUBMISSION, BUT THE FIRST THING WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION SO THAT WE COULD PARTICIPATE.

WHAT'S THE COST TO THE CITY.

IF WE COLLECT ON A DEBT, WE WOULD PAY $15.

IF WE DON'T COLLECT, THEN WE DON'T PAY ANYTHING.

SO WE REALLY CAN'T LOSE, UH, WITH THE PROGRAM, IN MY OPINION, HOW MUCH DID WE LOSE? AND NOT IN TEXAS THAT WE DON'T LET ME HEAR ABOUT.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT, BUT THIS IS NOT JUST TAXES.

THIS IS UTILITY DEBT, ELECTRIC PAYMENT, ANY, ANYTHING, ANY RECEIVABLES THAT WE HAVE THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COLLECT ON, IT REALLY IS WIDESPREAD.

AND IT'S A GREAT BENEFIT FOR US.

I FEEL LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM, PROVIDES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO COLLECT DEBTS THAT WE MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE COLLECT.

I MOVE WITHOUT A RESOLUTION.

YES, SIR.

I'D LIKE TO WISH EVERYONE WITHIN THE SOUND OF MY VOICE, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, AND IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL AND HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.

MERRY CHRISTMAS OH YEAH.

LIKE WISH EVERYBODY MERRY CHRISTMAS.

I DIDN'T MISS AN APPOINTMENT THAT I HAD TO MAKE IT.

NOW I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE JIRO STYLIST, JUSTIN GERALD FROM A COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION WAREHOUSE, WE GO, CONSCIENTIOUS CITIZEN ALSO BELONG TO OUR CHURCH.

WE'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS A LEGAL MATTER.

I NEED SOME HELP WITH, YEAH.

BEFOREHAND.

WE CAN DO AN OPEN SESSION FOR SCOTT.

DOES THAT, UM, NUMBER ONE IS, UH, MIKE AVERY GIVING ME A MEMO AND HE'S REQUESTING

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THAT THE BOARD CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING AT YOUR NEXT MEETING TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE ORDINANCE IN REGARDS TO THE APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLANS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

SO THEY'LL HAVE A PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND MR. MEADOWS HAS ONE ITEM ALSO THAT WE NEED TO JUST RUN BY YOU IN REGARDS TO THE BUYOUT OF THE LEASE.

SOME PROPERTY.

THAT FIRST IS LEASING FROM US.

THEY HAVE A DANNY WANTS TO COME UP AND EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN THIS IS INVOLVED.

MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT BEEN VOTED ON TO DO BY THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BUT STILL MEET THE CITY PURCHASED, UH, THE CORNER PROPERTY AND THE CORNER OF CRAVEN AND SOUTH PUNISHED STREET, UH, ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

AND THERE WAS A LEASE FOR THE LITTLE THREE CORNER BUILDING THERE, UH, THAT EXTENDED THROUGH THE YEAR 2002, FEBRUARY OF 2002, AND HAD AN OPTION TO RENEW FOR AN ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS, WHICH WOULD RUN THAT LEASE THROUGH AT LEAST 2007.

WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, UH, FOR VERY PROBABLE, UH, PARKING SPACE, WA WHATEVER.

UH, BUT, UH, WE HAVE BEEN LEASING THAT AND TAKING THAT MONEY, PUTTING IT BACK IN THE, IN THE, UH, MSD FUND, THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS THE LEASE IS WILLING TO GIVE UP THE LEASE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, HE SAID HE MAY NOT BE WILLING TO GIVE UP THAT LEASE.

SO IT RIGHT, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T NEED THE PROPERTY TO BUILD A PARKING LOT AT THIS MOMENT, MAYBE TWO, THREE YEARS FROM NOW, WE WILL, AND WE'D BE FACING, UH, A GREATER DILEMMA.

UH, WE MET WITH THE, UH, MSD BOARD, UH, AND THE REPRESENTATIVES THERE, UH, RECOMMENDED THAT WE GO AHEAD AND BUY HIS LEASE OUT THAT WAY WE WOULD CONTROL THE PROPERTY.

UH, WE, WE ARE GOING TO TEAR DOWN PART OF THE BUILDING AND HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE HPC.

AND IF HE MOVES OUT, WE'RE GOING TO TEAR IT ALL DOWN AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT FOR OVERFLOW PARKING FOR SPECIAL EVENTS OR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS OR WHATEVER.

UH, HE IS AGREED FOR $12,000 BUY OUT FROM HIS LEASE.

UH, AND THE MSD BOARD RECOMMENDS IT.

UH, I, I PERSONALLY THINK IT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF CITY TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, EVEN THOUGH WE WILL BE LOSING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN SOME FUNDS OVER THE LONG HAUL, IF WE NEED THAT PROPERTY AND HE DOESN'T WANT TO MOVE, WE'RE LOCKED IN UNTIL, UH, 2007.

SO THE MSD BOARD FED IT WAS INVESTED INTEREST THE CITY TO GO AHEAD AND BUY THAT OUT.

AND THEN WE CAN TAKE DOWN THE BUILDING AND DO WHAT THE PROPERTIES WE PLEASED OR THE MSP MONEY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S OKAY.

UM, QUINN HAS BEEN, IS AT LEAST COME UP FOR RENEWAL.

AT LEAST COMES UP FOR RENEWAL IN FEBRUARY OF 2005, BUT IT'S AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.

AS LONG AS HE WANTS IT, WE CANNOT DENY THE RENEW THE 10 YEARS FOR FIVE MORE YEARS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OH, OKAY.

SO WHY WOULD WE HAVE TO, THEY WON'T GIVE IT UP RIGHT, BUT IT'S TOO SPECULATIVE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT HE'S GOING TO STAY THERE IS TO SPIN IT TO, WELL, I, I WOULD, I WOULD OFFER THIS.

I WAS IN HIS OFFICE TODAY.

THE LEASED PREMISES BOSS SPARKED IN BED.

HE'S PAYING $500.

IT'S NOW WORTH $500 FOR DOWNTOWN OFFICE SPACE.

THAT'S DIRT CHEAP.

I THINK THAT, AND THE USE OF THE ENTIRE WALL, I NEED TO SEE THE KIND OF MONEY THAT THE INVESTEE DISTRICTS IS HAULING IN BECAUSE A LOT OF MUD IS THAT I KNOW IT MIGHT BE THEIR TAX MONEY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ACTUALLY GENERATING THAT MONEY BECAUSE THEY GENERATE ABOUT $125,000 A YEAR.

I SPENT 125 MINUTES.

THEY CAN USE IT FOR THESE THINGS FOR THE CITY.

I MEAN, IT'S, I THINK EVERYBODY, OKAY.

$500, 500 THAT'S 6,000 A YEAR.

SO WE BUY THIS LEASE FOR TWO YEARS.

NO, WE MIGHT NEED WAIT.

WELL THAT, AND AGAIN, IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S VERY SPECULATIVE, BUT IN SPEAKING TO THE INSPECTOR, IN SPEAKING TO

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THE GENTLEMAN, HE SAID, IT'S 12,000.

NOW, IF WE COME UP AND NEED A PARKING LOT, SAY TWO YEARS FROM NOW, IT MAY BE 25,000.

WELL, WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING YOU MOVED IS FIVE TIMES, 6,000 IS 30.

THEN HE'S TELLING US THAT HE'S SELLING US $30,000 WORTH OF GROWTH.

HE'S GIVEN US THIS GAME.

RIGHT.

I THINK WE NEED TO TABLE.

WHAT'S THE PROBLEM.

HE USED 10,000.

NOW I'M SPENDING BOARD, WHATEVER YOU WANT.

WHAT'S THE PROPERTY USE FOR NOW? IT'S IT'S A SURVEYOR'S OFFICE IS SOUTHERN SOUTHERN BOUNDARIES.

AND, UH, OF COURSE HE CALLED ME TODAY.

I THOUGHT WE HAD A, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S I THOUGHT WE HAD MORE TIME THAN WE USUALLY THINK WE DO.

HE CALLED ME TODAY.

HE'S GOT TO MAKE SOME COMMITMENTS AND HE'S, HE'S READY TO SIGN SOME DOCUMENTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO THIS BOARD.

HE HE'S SAID THE EARLIEST HE WOULD MOVE WOULD BE FEBRUARY.

IF YOU WANT TO TABLE IT UNTIL JANUARY, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.

I'LL BE GLAD TO LET HIM KNOW THAT I'M ASKING THE FOLKS WANT TO DO.

AND IT'S THEIR MONEY.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO .

ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS MAKE A MOTION.

WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BACK.

WHAT ARE WE HAVING?