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WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER I, AND WITH A PRAYER BY DR.
STEVE IT'S GERALD AND FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, MAY WE PRAY LORD ON AN EVENING WHEN COMPETITION IS IN OUR MINDS WITH WINTER GAMES GOING ON IN UTAH, LORD COMPETITION IN THE MIDST OF SOME PEOPLE'S MINDS AS TO HOW THEY CAN EARN THEIR WAY INTO PARADISE THROUGH TEAR OR THERE'S COMPETITION, EVEN FOR DOLLARS LIMITED RESOURCES.
AND SO TONIGHT WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE HERE GIVING US A SPIRIT OF PEACE AND OF WISDOM.
AS WE SEEK TO TAKE THE RESOURCES THAT WE DO HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL AND USE THEM FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE USE TO SPREAD THE GREATEST BENEFIT TO THE MOST CITIZENS.
SO GUIDE OUR THOUGHTS, OPEN OUR HEARTS, AND MAY YOUR SPIRIT BE HERE GIVING US A UNIFIED SENSE OF AGREEMENT.
FIRST THING WE HAVE TONIGHT IS POLICE OFFICERS, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE SOME NEW MEMBERS OF THE NEW-BORN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THE FIRST TWO THAT I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU ARE CIVILIAN MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, FIRST ONE IS TELECOMMUNICATOR RHONDA STALLINGS.
RHONDA, WOULD YOU COME UP FRONT HERE, PLEASE? RON HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT SINCE 1994, AND SHE WORKED AS A DEPUTY SHERIFF FOR LENORE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SHE'S WORKED AS A POLICE OFFICER FOR KINSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE TITLE OF GRANGE.
SHE WAS ENGINE IN LINE OF DUTY AND NOW JOINS US AS A TELECOMMUNICATOR.
SO SHE'S PROVIDING NOT ONLY EXPERT TELECOMMUNICATING EXPERIENCE, BUT SHE HAS A LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND THAT SHOULD HELP HER TREMENDOUSLY.
AND WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME HER TO THE NEW BERLIN POLICE DEPARTMENT RUN IT.
NEXT IS A POLICE SERVICE TECHNICIAN.
ELLEN WILLIS ALLEN JOINS US AS A POLICE SERVICE TECHNICIAN.
SHE'LL BE WORKING THE FRONT DESK AND SHE WORKED AS A BOOKKEEPER WACOVIA BANK AND TRUST AND WAS THE PERSONNEL MANAGER AND EXECUTIVE SECRETARY FOR SAILORS SNUG HARBOR SAILORS OF SNUCK HARBOR.
SHE NOW JOINS THE U S THE U S YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
THE NEW-BORN POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE POLICE SERVICE TECHNICIAN.
THANK YOU, ELLEN AND I'D LIKE TO BRING UP TO THE FRONT OF THE, UH, FOR THE ROOM FOR THEIR SWEARING IN, UH, FIRST IS OFFICER GRANT G BECKER OFFICER REBECCA GRADUATED FROM PAMLICO COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL IN 1987.
HE SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY FROM 87 TO 91.
HE RECEIVED AN ASSOCIATES DEGREE FROM CRAVEN COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN 94.
HE GRADUATED FROM BLET IN 1997 AND SERVED AS SERVED AS A PAMLICO COUNTY, DEPUTY SHERIFF FROM 97 TO 2001.
HE SERVED AS A POLICE OFFICER FOR OAK ISLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM 2001 UNTIL WE STOLEN.
I MEAN, UNTIL, UH, WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE BROUGHT THEM ON TO NEWBURN POLICE DEPARTMENT, HE'S MARRIED AND HE HAS THREE SONS, AND THEY'RE ALL HERE IN THEIR FUTURE MEMBERS OF THE NEW-BORN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
NEXT IS, UH, OFFICER SAMUEL J. CARTER, OFFICER CARTER GRADUATED FROM RED JACKET, HIGH SCHOOL IN 1992 IN MANCHESTER, NEW YORK.
UH, HE WAS SELF-EMPLOYED FROM 93 TO 95, AND IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT HE WAS DOING.
HE SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS FROM 1995 TO 2001.
HE GRADUATED FROM BLET THIS PAST AUGUST, AND HE IS MARRIED AND HAS ONE DAUGHTER.
AND, UH, OFFICER CURRY CANNOT BE HERE TONIGHT.
HE'S, UH, ON ACTIVE DUTY AND HE'S A RESERVE OFFICER FOR US, BUT I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM ANYWAY, OF SCURRY GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL IN SAINT CERO.
ESCOLAR PRESIDENT DAY HIGH SCHOOL IN PUEBLO, MEXICO IN 1991.
YOU SEE, HE WAS A MEXICAN CITIZEN.
HE ENLISTED IN THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS IN 97 AND IS CURRENTLY STILL ON ACTIVE DUTY.
HE GRADUATED FROM BLE BLET IN AUGUST OF 2001.
HE'S MARRIED AND HAS A DAUGHTER AND
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A SON, AND HE'S A NATURALIZED AMERICAN CITIZEN.AND HE IS A FLUENT SPANISH SPEAKER, OBVIOUSLY.
AND WE'RE REALLY GLAD TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD.
AND IF WE EVER GET PAST THIS FREEZE, HE'LL BE ONE OF OUR PERMANENT FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WHENEVER HE GETS OUT OF THE SERVICE.
AND FINALLY, OFFICER KEVIN, OUR TOLER OFFICER TALA GRADUATED FROM WEST CRAVEN HIGH SCHOOL IN 96.
HE ATTENDED TO NOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN 96 AND 97 AND CRAVING COMMUNITY COLLEGE FROM 98 AND 99.
HE ATTENDED GREENVILLE TECH IN GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, FROM 1999 TO 2001, I THINK HE'S TIRED OF SCHOOL AND HE NEEDS A JOB NOW.
HE GRADUATED FROM BASIC LAW ENFORCEMENT IN, UH, DECEMBER OF 2001.
AND WE'RE PROUD TO BRING HIM ABOARD.
WOULD YOU GENTLEMEN STEP UP FROM AND WE'D LIKE TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, UH, US MENTIONED HERE RECENTLY THAT WE READ A CASE WHERE IT WAS POLICE OFFICERS FROM OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS AND SO FORTH.
AND WE MADE THE COMMENT THAT, UH, EVEN TRYING TO LOOK AT IT FROM A, FROM A SORT OF A BLINDED EYE THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS HAD THE BEST UNIFORM AND HELD THEMSELVES THE BEST.
I MEAN, YOU COULD JUST LOOK AT THEM AND PICK THEM RIGHT OUT OF THE CROWD.
SO JOHN WANTED THE GREAT POLICE FORCE TO GOVERNING BOARD AND THE MAYOR AIN'T MUST TO WORK, BUT WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN.
I'M TRYING TO THINK WE DO A DECENT JOB, BUT ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS.
AND WE THINK IF THEY WANT TO, BUT IF THEY'D LIKE TO LEAVE AND IF I WAS IN YOUR SPOT,
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I WILL TAKE THE NEXT THING AND ASK THE, UH, MONTHLY REQUEST AND PETITION OF CITIZENS.AND THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LOCAL CITIZENRY TO COME UP HERE.
AND, UH, I WOULDN'T SAY GET EVERYTHING OFF YOUR CHEST AT ONE TIME, BUT IT'S NOT BOTHERING THEM ABOUT THE CITY OF WHAT WE'VE DONE OR WHATEVER.
AND THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND LET US KNOW ABOUT IT.
SO IS ANYBODY HERE UNDER THAT HEADING TONIGHT? NO, THAT'S GOOD.
COME RIGHT UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND LET US KNOW YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN TELL US WHAT YOU OKAY.
MY NAME IS JOANNE
AND I ASKED HIM COMPENSATIONS FOR THE, UM, WATER BILL COST BY LEAK.
UM, I'M SORRY FOR MY DIALECT, BUT ENGLISH IS NOT MY FIRST.
UM, I HAVE AN, UM, UM, HIGH WATER BILL DUE TO A WATER LEAK FOR THE PIPES ON THE, THE HOUSE, WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW OF THE, THAT THERE WASN'T A WATER LEAK.
AND I CALLED TO CITY OF NEWBURN, UM, IN CASE HOW I COULD SEE IF THERE WAS A WATER LEAK AND THEY SAID, JUST WAIT FOR THE BILL.
AND IT HAPPENED IN JULY THAT I HAD, UM, BIG, HUGE WATER SIG WHAT COULD FILL A SWIMMING POOL AND ASK SOME WATER SAFER.
THE ONLY ID I FOUGHT FROM WAS WAITING FOR THE MATRAVILLE WE SOLVE THIS WHOLE PROBLEM.
UH, CITY OF NEW BERN WAS FAIRLY NICE TO, UH, COMPENSATE THIS BILL, UM, ON THE, THE CONDITION THAT I COULDN'T COMPLAIN FOR ONE ONLY ONCE IN THE TWO YEARS, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE THIS WAS A HUGE SPILL.
SO THE ONLY THING I FOUGHT TO US, UH, A BIG
AND I STILL DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SEE ABOUT THE WATER BILL.
I CALLED CITY OF NEWBURN AGAIN, AND THEN THEY MENTIONED, UM, THE CAN, UH, ISSUE AND, UM, MEET HER SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WATERLOO SO RUNNING.
AND, UH, I WAS VERY GLAD TO HAVE THE ID, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT SUCH A METER EXISTED.
AND I HOPED THAT IT WAS DONE ALREADY IN THE BEGINNING A YEAR AGO.
AND I SAW I HAD HAVE WATER LEAK.
LUMBER CAME AND REPAIRED IT TWO DAYS LATER, I'M ON MY KNEES TO THE WATER METER, KEEPING AN EYE ON IT.
UM, AND HE CAME AND, UM, HE REPAIRED THIS LEAK AND I WAS SO GLAD THAT IT HAPPENS THAT I COULD PREVENT HIS SECOND BILL, BUT STILL DO HAVE DEBT.
I'VE STILL ON HIGH BILL FOR THE JANUARY.
AND IT'S, WE DON'T SPEAK ABOUT NOW HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS, BUT ABOUT HARM THE DOLLAR.
AND I ASKED HER COMPENSATION FOR THIS WHEN I WENT TO THE CITY OF NEWBURGH AND I SPOKE WITH BILL HARTMAN AND HE SAID, HE SPOKE WITH DAVE MOOSE AND THEY REFUSED ME.
AND I ASKED THEM, I FEEL ME STEAL YOUR RIGHTS BECAUSE I REALLY I'M A WATER SAFER, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYBODY IN TROUBLE, BUT I DON'T THINK, I THINK I'M, UH, I'M NOT TOLD THAT I DO INFORMATION THAT I COULD, SHOULD CHECK UP THE
AND THEN, UH, HE SAID, IF YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT, GO TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND THAT MAKES ME COME HERE.
WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING? I GUESS, OFF THE BILL? YEAH.
UM, I THINK I NEVER MISSED SCHRADER'S CASE.
I BELIEVE IT WAS WE'LL HAVE TO TALK TO HER, BUT UNDER THE CITY'S POLICY, WE WILL, FIRST OF ALL, WE JUST CHARGE HER WATER, GOES TO THE METER.
AND IF THERE'S LEAKING, THE HOUSE REALLY IS NOT OUR, IT'S NOT OUR ACTUAL RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE IT, BUT WE HAVE A LEAK POLICY THAT SAYS IF THERE IS AN FORD ESTABLISHES POLICY SOMETIME AGO, BUT IT SAYS IF THERE IS A LEAK
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AND IT'S DETERMINED, THAT IS A HIGH VOLUME ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE THE NORMAL USAGE THAT WE DETERMINE WHAT AN AVERAGE USAGE WOULD BE FOR THAT PROPERTY.AND THEN WHATEVER THAT LEAD IS, WE SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE CUSTOMER, BUT THERE'S ALSO PROVISION THE POLICY SAYS THIS CAN ONLY BE USED ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PIPING THE SCHRADER HAS ASKED, BUT A LOT OF CASES YOU'LL HAVE A GALVANIZED PIPE IN A HOUSE AND WATCH PARK ONCE A GALLON IN ONE SPOT AND YOU GET THAT FIXED.
THEN YOU GOT ANOTHER SPOT IN THE GALLON.
I HAVE FIVE MINUTE GUYS AND BASICALLY TEAR YOU REPLACE THE ENTIRE MIKE AND UNDER THE HOUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK.
AND SO WHILE THE CITY'S POLICY IS DESIGNED TO DO IS TO HELP THE CUSTOMER OUT AND HAS PROBLEM, HELP THEM IDENTIFY THEIR PROBLEM.
AND THEN THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANOTHER PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A PLUMBER OR WHOEVER THAT HE IS AND GET IT FIXED.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CONCEPT OF WHAT THE LATE POLICY IS DESIGNED FOR.
THAT IS THE POLICY THAT HIS BOARD SAID.
IT'S NOT REALLY, IF WE OVERRODE IT FOR ONE CUSTOMER, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT MANY OTHER CUSTOMERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN WITH THE SAME PROBLEM.
SO THE BOARD NEEDS TO DETERMINE IF YOU WANT TO ACCEPT TWO OR THREE OR FOUR TIMES BACK WITHIN THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD, OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT, YOU CAN DO SO.
POLICY HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND HAS SERVED AS WELL.
AND I CAN APPRECIATE MS. STRADER'S LOSS AND THE PROBLEMS THAT SHE HAS WITH THE BILL.
BUT AS I TOLD HER, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN CHANGE THE ACCIDENT POLICY IS THE GOVERNMENT.
YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO MY ONE LOOK AT IT FURTHER AND MAKE FURTHER DECISION LATER AND LET HER KNOW, UH, IF SHE'S GOING TO GET ANY RELIEF FROM THIS.
I THINK THIS POLICY IS SERIOUS ENOUGH THAT IF WE WERE TO VIOLATE IT ONE TIME, WHICH SOMETIMES IF THERE JUST IS A VERY EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE, WE WILL MAKE AN EXCEPTION JUST AS A CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUE.
YOU CAN TRY TO WORK WITH THE CUSTOMER ON THAT, BUT FOR LEAKS LIKE THIS, WE TRY, NOT EVERYBODY HAS LEAKS FROM TIME TO TIME.
AND THEN IF THEY START COMING UP WITH LEAK AFTER LEAK, THEN YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOMEONE HAS PAY FOR WATER.
AND THAT MEANS THAT THE MORE BILLS FOR EVERYONE, BECAUSE IF WE DO THAT, SO IT'S NOT AN EASY SITUATION TO DEAL WITH, BUT THAT'S THE BACKGROUND.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY METRIC SUED, INSOFAR AS DETERMINED? WHAT'S A LEAK.
IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT 50 GALLONS? 50%? LET ME TELL YOU HAVING SHOWED THAT.
IN FACT, IT, WASN'T A JUDGMENT CALL WHEN I'M TRYING TO SEE IS I JUST KNOW HOW, UH, CODIFIED IN THE SAND THAT THE POLICY IS.
AND MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
WE NORMALLY HAVE, WE NORMALLY WILL HAVE A COLOR TO LOOK AT SOMETHING, BUT IT'S NOT COMPLETELY UNHEARD OF THAT.
SOMEONE WILL JUST EXPERIENCE A VERY LARGE WATER LOSS IN THEIR HOUSE WITHOUT KNOWING WHY IT HAPPENED.
AND IN THOSE CASES, IT COULD BE THAT THERE WAS A COMMODE THAT RAN FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, SOMEONE LEFT AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT.
AND THEN WHEN THEY CAME BACK IN JAILED OR SOMETHING AND IT CLOSED IT UP AND THE LADY STOPPED AND THEN, UH, WE TAKE CARE OF THAT.
AND WE, IF IT'S, UH, WE LOOK AT WHAT THEIR AVERAGE USAGE BE, AND IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A REAL HIGH BILL, MAYBE DOUBLE WHAT THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO BE ARE, ARE PEOPLE IN CUSTOMER SERVICE, MAKE THAT CALL BASICALLY AND LOOK AT IT.
AND IF IT'S OBVIOUS THAT SOMETHING'S UNUSUAL HERE, EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PLUMBERS AND WE'LL MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT ONE TIME AND WE DID GET THIS RIGHT, OR I THINK REALLY JULY, I BELIEVE THE ONE FROM, I WANT TO HAVE TO COMMENCE ON.
UM, UH, MR. HARTMAN STORY, UM, SEWER IS LINKED ON THE WATER BALE.
SEWER IS THREE TIMES AS MUCH, BUT THE CHARGE FOR WATER, UH, THAT MAKES THEM FEEL FAIRLY HIGH QUICKLY.
UM, I SPEAK HERE FOR MY NORMAL WATERVILLE.
UM, BUT I HARDLY COULD SEE BECAUSE I LIVED ONLY ONE MODE IN HIS APARTMENT.
AND THEN THE WATER BILL WAS ALREADY HIGHER.
AND I TALKED WITH THE PEOPLE AROUND ME AND THEY SAY, THIS IS, BUT THEN IT WAS, UH, NORMAL.
IT'S MY WATER BILL $20 AND SEWER IS $50.
SO THAT'S ABOUT TWO TIMES MORE.
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AND WHAT WE NORMALLY WILL DO IS A VERY HAPPY CUSTOMER HAS CALLEDWE STILL HAVE HELPED PRETTY FAST.
AND AGAIN, THIS CERTAINLY WITHIN THIS BOARD PREROGATIVE CHAIN, IF YOU DESIRE TO DO SO, BUT IT IS A DEFINITELY A POLICY ISSUE THAT WE WILL ADDRESS WITH A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.
THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO BE CAREFUL WITH, UM, I WANTED TO MENTION BASICALLY MY CURIOUS ABOUT THE SITUATION WITH THE SEWER WHEN SHE JUST MENTIONED, BECAUSE I HAVE A FRIEND THAT HAD THE SAME PROBLEM WITH A LEAK THAT HE WASN'T AWARE OF UNTIL HE GOT THE BILL, WE HAD IT FIXED AND IT WAS THE GALVANIZED PIPES AND IT LEAKED AGAIN.
AND HE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE, IT REALLY WAS HIS RESPONSIBILITY.
THE SECOND TIME AROUND IT, THE CITY HAD DONE HIM, A FAVOR HAD GIVEN HIM A LITTLE HELP BY COVERING THE FIRST ONE.
BUT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE SEWER BILL BECAUSE THE WATER ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH THE METER AND IS GONE FROM OUR STANDARD FROM THE SYSTEM, BUT IT'S NOT COMING BACK INTO THE SEWAGE SYSTEM YET.
WE STILL HAVE THIS INCREASED AMOUNT OF SEWER BILL ON THE SECOND OCCURRENCE BECAUSE IT'S TIED INTO THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT GOES THROUGH THE METER, BUT IT HAS NO REALITY.
AND HAVING THAT EXTRA AMOUNT OF SEWAGE AND THE SECOND OCCURRENCE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL PAYING AN EXTRA PRICE FOR THE SEWER.
WELL, UH, THE WATER BILL AND THE SEWER BILL ARE SEPARATED ON THE, ON THE, ON THE BILL.
I'M UNDERSTANDING WHY I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING IS SINCE THERE IS NO ACTUAL COST OF TREATING THE SEWAGE TO THE CITY ON THE SECOND FOR WATER THAT WOULD LEAK OUT OF THE SYSTEM, WE'D GIVE THEM ONE ALLOWANCE FOR WATER AND SEWER.
THE FIRST TIME IT HAPPENS WITH THE IDEA THAT FIXING THE ONE, THE SECOND TIME, IF IT LEAKS WATER, WILL STEWARD, CHARGING THEM THE EXTRA MONEY FOR THE SEWER.
I COULD SEE CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT I COULD SEE MAYBE CONSIDERING A REDUCTION IN THE SEWER AMOUNT ON THE SECOND, BECAUSE THAT DID NOT INCUR AN EXPENSE TO THE CITY OF TREATING THE SEWAGE.
THE WATER IS A DIFFERENT THING BECAUSE THE WATER DID GO THROUGH THE METER ON THE SECOND INSTANCE.
AND IT WAS AN EXPENSE TO THE CITY, BUT THERE WAS NO SEWER BILL.
I'M THINKING MR. FREEZE, THAT YOU MIND TO THE POINT WHEN THAT'S WHAT I TRY TO SAY, IT'S LINKED AND THERE'S NOT AN EPISODE, THE SEWER, SO I'M PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GONE.
THIS IS
AND SO IT'S NOT JUST A CLEAR CUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WE'LL HAVE TO WEIGH ALL OF THOSE.
NO, BUT MY MAIN COMPLAINT IS THAT I'M NOT, UM, INFORMED ABOUT THE FACT THAT ARE WATCHING WAY TO, UH, TO SEE THAT, UH, THAT WATER IS LEAKING.
THERE WAS SOME METER, EVEN SEPARATE METER THAT YOU CAN SEE.
SO, AND I MAY BE TOTALLY WRONG, WRONG QUITE A BIT COURT OF LIFE.
SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT I THINK THE PLUMBERS THEMSELVES, WHEN THEY THINK THAT THEY MAY BE A LEAK OR WHATEVER, THEY WAYS THEY CAN PUT METERS ON THINGS, I THINK I KNOW THEY CAN PRESSURIZE THINGS AND SAFETY, PRESSURE BALLS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO I'M SURPRISED THAT THE CITY HAD A METER THAT THEY COULD LEAN ON TO WHATEVER, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
I JUST DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE DID PRETTY GOOD IN THE CITY OF THE SANDSTONE I WOULD SUGGEST OR SO, BUT I, IN, UH, IN, IN HERE I HAVE AN, A, A BILL IN FRONT OF ME, BUT SAYS THIS, UM, THERE ARE TWO BALES, UH, WHEN THERE WAS NO LEAKS, WHEN I FACE IT FINISHED TENANT, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO MEET US, UH, CALLED AND SAID, THE DEBTOR BOTTOM MEETING WAS STILL RUNNING.
SO I WENT BACK AND TOOK CARE OF ANOTHER LEAK.
AND IT WAS TWO DAYS LATER WHEN I SOLD THE CENTIMETER, I WAS STILL WITH ATLANTIC.
SO PROBABLY THIS BLONDE, BUT I'VE SEEN YES.
AND I'M SCARED AS IT HAPPENS TOMORROW AGAIN, BUT NOW, NOW I'M INFORMED NOW.
YOU HAVE A WATER LEAK IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
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SO, BUT NOW I CAN SEE IT.THAT'S WHY I HAVE PRESENTED MYSELF AND HUGE SPILL.
AND I THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT WATER METER IN IT, BUT I'VE ASKED IT FOR A YEAR AGO.
AND EVERY TIME THEY SAY, WAIT FOR THE BILL, AND THEN I GET AN HI BILL, AND THIS IS THIS I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THAT.
I DID SUGGEST THAT NOT DEALING WITH THIS BILL, BUT WITH YOUR OVERALL SITUATION, BE WIDE, PROBABLY TO GET A PLUMBER, TO GET A PRICE, GO AHEAD AND REPLACE ALL OF YOUR PIPES THERE UNDER YOUR HOUSE LIKE THAT.
WITH BBC, RATHER THAN GALVANIZED, IT WOULD NOT BE AS EXPENSIVE AS YOU THINK IT WOULD NOT BE AS EXPENSIVE AS TWO OR THREE MORE WEEKS.
AND SO, UM, AND TENANTS, AND I'M NOT THE HOME OWNER, AND I'M THE ONE WHO PAYS THE BILL AND I'M NOT THE ONE WHO DOES 30 PAIR FOR THE FIVE.
SO IN THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, BUT I SUGGESTED WE DO SOME WORK SESSION.
SO THEY HAVE SOME IDEA SAY POLICY IS BEFORE WE TRIED.
I DON'T THINK WE REALLY CAN MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT IN THE SENSE THAT WE GOT YESTERDAY.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WITH THE OTHER THING YOU CAN'T TREAT PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY UNDER THE SAME POLICY.
SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO LIMIT THIS GUESSING.
NOW WHEN, UH, I ASKED MR. HARTMAN BY, UH, BY, I WAS NEVER INFORMED ABOUT HIS SPECIAL METER, BECAUSE I ASKED FOR IT.
I WANTED TO KNOW FROM THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, I ASKED, UH, I CALLED THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
AND THEN THEY SAID THAT HE'S ONLY DATAVAIL TO WAIT FOR THE BILL.
AND THEN I ASKED MR. HARTMAN AND HE SHOULD, HE ACTUALLY INVERSE, UH, IF WE PLACE THE METER 50 SPECIAL METER, THERE'S A NEW METER.
THEN SOMETIMES THE BILL GOES HIGHER UP AND PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, BUT I WAS NOT THAT KIND OF CUSTOMER I WANTED TO, THAT'S THE KIND OF METER.
SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT I'M JUST A MAYOR.
WHAT DOES HE KNOW? UH, CAN YOU GIVE ME MS. LEE SUGGESTED DOING A WORK SESSION AND, UH, AND IF WE HAVE TO FIGHT THE CUSTOMER MAD AND WE CAN SIT AND DISCUSS WHILE WE'RE LEARNING, YOU KNOW, UH, DO YOU NEED ME FOR THAT? TALK ABOUT THE SITUATION IN GENERAL, NOT WHETHER OR NOT WE ACCEPTED THE FACT THAT YOU HAVEN'T LIKE, AND BASED ON WHAT WE FIND WITH WHAT'S IN PLACE, MY CITY, IN THE INFORMATION WE GOT FOR YOU, WE'LL MAKE A DECISION HOW THIS PROBABLY CAN BE HELD IN THE FUTURE AND MOST OF WHAT, HOW WE GOING TO FINALIZE YOUR PROBLEM IF WE CAN DO OKAY.
I'M GLAD TO, UH, I CAN PUT THIS ON THE ATTENTION ONCE I FOUGHT ALSO NOT ONLY FOR MYSELF BUT OTHER PEOPLE, BUT I SAY THE SEWER BILL SPECIAL IS SUDDENLY SO HIGH.
AND I'M GLAD THE SECOND BILL IS NOW DEAD.
I THAT'S, I HAD TO EAT IT, BUT AT 10 BALTER, BUT IT'S HIGH AND I FORGOT.
DID SHE SAY LANGUAGES? RUSSIA?
SO THAT'S WHY I REALLY, I THAT'S HOW I DID THAT.
I WAS DOING MY BEST AND, AND I FEEL ME POLICED.
I TELL YOU, I TELL YOU ONCE HE COULD ADD, I DIDN'T EVEN USE GUESTS FOR THE WHOLE SUMMER.
AND FOR THE HOTSPOT HEATER, I COULD GO TO THE SPORTS CENTER.
SO I TELL YOU, I PROBABLY NOT THE ONLY ONE, BECAUSE ONCE I SAY, UH, THE SEWER AVAIL IS LINKED AND THAT MAKES IT ENORMOUS BILLS.
DID THEY REALLY WEAR WHEN SHE USED THAT I HAVE TO, AND THE FAIREST PERSON I ASKED
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AND OUR TWO LIVE SO-SO OKAY.THE NEXT THING WE HAVE TO, UH, ADOPT A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE QUESTION OF ANNEXATION OF 8.4 ACRES OWNED BY ASPIRIN PROPERTIES.
AND NOW WE NEED AN EXPLANATION OF THAT.
PROBABLY LIKE, DO YOU WANT TO, I DON'T, I DON'T MIND DOING IT.
ASHFORD'S PROPERTY ACROSS THE RIVER.
YOU'LL SEE THE SURVEY ATTACHED THERE.
HE HAS REQUESTED ANNEXATION, UM, WITH SOME OTHER ISSUES TO FOLLOW CLOSING.
WOULD THAT BE PART OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES YOU'RE LOOKING AT? ALSO IT'LL BE CLOSED.
IT WOULDN'T BE ANOTHER ADDITIONAL COST TO US TO, OKAY.
I'LL MOVE WITHOUT THE RESOLUTION NOT CALLED ROLE-PLAYS.
FIRST OF ALL, WILL YOU BE LIVING ON THAT PROPERTY? MAY HAVE SET US ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF WE TAKE YOU WE'LL COME ON HERE.
WE'LL BE GLAD TO HAVE EXCELLENT.
MAY I JUST MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION HERE WHERE IT SAYS ON ITEM 17, 3 20, CONSIDER THAT IS ADOPTING ORDINANCE INSTEAD OF CONSIDER THAT'S THERE, THAT'S NOT A CONSIDERATION AND MARIN OUT ITEM 17 AND 18 DISCUSSION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'M GLAD IN MY OLD ROLE, PLEASE, MAN.
18 REASONING IS BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO SAVE HOMES, HAVE COACHED ME AND ASKED THAT WE DELAY ORDINANCE SO THAT THERE'S MAYBE A POSSIBILITY OF ONE HOME STABILIZE.
IT TURNS UP SOME OTHER WORK AND THE SECOND HOME POSSIBLE TO SOMEONE PURCHASING EVERY FALL.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ITEM 17 DWELLING ON SALE, 28 CEDAR STREET AND
AND THAT MEANS IT WOULD NOT COME BACK.
I DON'T WANT TO HIT A PROBLEM.
AGAIN, BOTH HOMES HAVE BEEN VACANT OVER TO
SO WE'VE GOT 90 DAYS FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
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90 DAYS FROM TONIGHT'S DATE, BUT I DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME.FIGURED OUT I'LL CALL YOU TOMORROW.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF MORE DAYS.
RIGHT? I GOT TO COMMENT ON THAT.
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET SOME GOOD JOB.
SOMETIMES WE GO BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY TO TRY AND SAVE THINGS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO THAT GOOD JOB.
AND I WOULD HATE FOR THEM TO USE YEAH, ON THAT SAME THOUGHT.
I JUST WANT IT TO WARN MR. CLAW, THAT I MAY BE AT THE NEXT MEETING, COMING BACK TO THIS BOARD, ASKING WHAT YOU RESCIND THE DEMOLITION OF ORDINANCE, THAT THIRD AVENUE PROPERTY, MAKE IT TAKE THE FIFTH, MAYBE 60 DAYS ON THAT MARCH DATE.
THE REASON IS THAT SOMEONE CONTACTED ME.
IN FACT, SOMEBODY I KNOW PERSONALLY GIVES ME COACH WAIT BY THE HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU CAN SAY DEPARTMENT, UH, LAST.
WELL HE MUST'VE PURCHASED IT ALREADY.
I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT HE'S GOING, RIGHT.
SO, SO AT THE NEXT MEETING, I'M GOING TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.
SOMETHING RESCINDING THAT DEMOLITION OR PUTTING IT ON EXTENDED TO A LATER DATE TO GIVE HIM A LITTLE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT.
IT'S AUTOMATICALLY ALLOWED HIM BECAUSE HE TAKES HIS SUBJECT TO WHATEVER IS WRONG WITH, WELL, I DO WANT TO KIND OF HELP THEM BECAUSE THAT'S A HOUSE THAT SOMEBODY CAN LIVE IN.
I JUST KIND OF WANT TO HELP HIM IF I CAN GOOD.
HE HAS A SHIRT BY THE DEADLINE, BUT IF HE GETS 75% THERE AND CAN'T GET IT DONE, I WOULDN'T WANT IT TO HIM DOWN.
ANYWAY, ROBERT, YOU GUARANTEED.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT THING WE HAVE AS APPOINTMENTS.
I, I DON'T HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHO'S WATCHING.
THEN I STILL HAVE A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT VACANCY, AND I LIKE TO CALL FOR CANDIDATES.
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS GIVE ME A CALL AT HOME FIVE ONE FOUR TWO FIVE SIX, FOUR.
RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO MR. MADDEN.
I CAN RECOMMEND YOU SOME WORK.
HER NAME IS TY EDUCATE OR THAT BUILDS PARTNER.
SHE'S YOUR SISTER, JOSEPH GEORGE.
I PROMISED HER, I WOULD TRY TO GET HER A SEAT ON ONE OF OUR BOARDS BECAUSE SHE RETIRED FROM THE GREENVILLE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
SHE'S LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO.
YOU WANT ME TO A TELEPHONE? I'D BE GLAD TO GIVE IT TO YOU READY RESTRICTION ON WHETHER OR NOT SHE HAS TO LIVE IN THE FOURTH WARD.
I TELL YOU, I'M PUTTING PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WARS POSITION, PHYSICIAN LEAD TO BE FIELD.
SO IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD PREFER TO HAVE IT FOR SOMEONE, WHAT? I CAN'T BLAME THEM IF I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY, BUT SHE'S NOT EVEN IN MY WATER.
AND I WOULD PUT ON IN A POSITION IF I COULD.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, MARYLAND.
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OKAY.ALL OPPOSED, JOE, MY BROTHER WAS ON IT.
HE KNOWS NOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE BROUGHT IN.
UH, AND I LET HIM DO A FINE JOB, MR. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
I HAVE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ASK WHAT'S GOING ON THE STREET AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT THE IMPROVEMENT WOULD DO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND YOU COULD HAVE AN IDEA OF THE TIMEFRAME
THEY'RE A GOOD FIT TO GET THEM WATER OUT AND RAMPS.
SO THEY CAN SAY THIS IS A MORE OF AN OVERALL IMPROVEMENT IN WATER SYSTEMS, SPECIALISTS, WE'RE SYSTEM IN THE GREATER COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE JUST BEEN NOTIFIED THAT
SO IT'S, IT'S AN OLD SYSTEM THERE THAT BREAKS.
AND SO IT'S QUITE AN INCONVENIENCE, RIGHT? BUT A LOBLAW THEY'LL FIND THE CONVENIENCE.
AND I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT WE WERE DOING.
I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THOSE WHO HAVE NOT GOTTEN AROUND TO ASK YOU TO BE WINNING HURRY.
NO, WE JUST GET A FEW OF THEM OUT.
AND I GUESS WITH THE WAVES BEEN RAINING, CAUSE ONE NIGHT I WENT TO THE STORE ON THE CORNER AND IT WAS A MAN SITTING ON THAT YELLOW THING AND IT WAS AT NIGHT AND I CAN THINK OF HOW YOU SITTING.
HE SAID THAT HE WAS WATCHING IT AND IT WAS REALLY RAINING.
I SAY, WELL, WHAT DID YOU GO INSIDE THE STORE? YOU CAN WATCH IT FROM THE STORE.
BUT ANYWAYS, IT HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN NEED THAT.
IT WOULD BE A GOOD IMPROVEMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT IT WASN'T POSITIVE KIND OF THING WAS ANYTHING THAT WAS PROVOKED BECAUSE OF SOMETHING SHE HAD THAT RECENTLY HAPPENED, ESPECIALLY THE STREET.
CAN WE HAVE A SIDEWALK TO
JUST A NOTICE IN THE LETTERS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR WORKBOOK HERE THAT MAY HAVE ESCAPED THEM NOTICE SINCE THEY DID JANUARY 17TH FROM THE DOD DIVISION ENGINEER THAT THEY HAVE AUTHORIZED A FLASHING SIGNAL LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF GLEN BURNIE AND OATS ROAD.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS DOWN HERE.
NOW I CAN'T GET CLEAR IN MY MIND EXACTLY HOW BLINKING LIGHT IS GOING TO SOLVE.
IT STILL MEANS SOMEBODY HAS GOTTA BE COURTEOUS ENOUGH TO LET YOU IN DURING HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES.
BUT ANYWAY, WE'LL SEE, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
BUT JUST FROM THE GOVERNMENT TRUST, THAT'S THAT'S ON OAK ROAD IN GLEN BURNIE, NEAR HATTERAS SHOTS, WHICH IS ALWAYS A PROBLEM IN SHIFT CHANGE TIME.
AND THEY HAVE NOW AUTHORIZED A $15,000 EXPENDITURE TO PUT A FLASHING SIGNAL THERE, WHICH MAYBE WILL IMPROVE THE SAFETY ASPECTS
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OF IT.AND, UH, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT DOES, BUT THAT'S PROGRESS.
AND THE OTHER THING WAS, UH, MIKE AND WE HAVE A SIDEWALK ON SIMMONS STREET.
SO THE KIDS WERE TRENT PARK SCHOOL WILL BE WALKING IN THE GUTTER WITH ALL THAT TRAFFIC ALONG THERE.
WELL, THE TRENT PARK, WHICH GOES, GOES BY SIMMONS, GO RIGHT BY AND SCHOOL.
AND THE KIDS WALKING, WALKING OFF THE SHOULDER ROAD, IT'S KIND OF SCARY.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S IT
THIS FELLOW TOLD ME LAST WEEK THAT HE HAD SEEN ALBUM TRASH PICK HER UP OR THINGS GOING AROUND WHEN I POSE RANGE.
AND THEY SAID, MAN, THAT'S THING AS A BEATEN, THIS THING I'VE EVER SEEN, HE SAID, HOW DOES THAT WORK? EXACTLY? I SAID, WELL, THE GUY DRIVES ALONE.
IF IT'S TRASH EVERYTHING ON THE SIDE, EVEN JUST RUN THAT SMELL.
AND I THINK I'M GOING TO GET SECOND RIDE.
AND HE WAS SITTING THERE SMOKING, TALKING AND TELLING ME, I SAID, IN FACT THE ONE THAT SAID THAT THING
THEY MR. MAYOR AND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY REFER TO THOSE THINGS AS THE WHITE ELEPHANTS, WITH THE TRUNK OUT THERE AT FIVE 30, IT WAS SUNDAY MORNING, RIGHT? BY MY WINDOW.
I'M TELLING YOU THAT MIGHT BE MY IMAGINATION.
BUT I THINK THINGS ARE LOOKING FOR MIGHTY CLEAN COMPARED TO ELSEWHERE, YOU KNOW, IN MY LITTLE TRAVELS HERE AND THERE.
THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
NANNY AND THE BASEMENT TWO OF THE OTHER DAY.
AND I TOLD HER THAT HER JOB WAS VERY EASY TO DECIDE WHETHER SHE WAS DOING A GOOD JOB OR NOT.
IF WE LOOK AND SEE NO TRASH, THEN WE KNOW JEEZ, HIT A HOME RUN, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO BE EASY, BUT I KNOW SHE CAN DO IT.
WHAT ELSE DO WE HEAR? THE ATTORNEYS WOULD SAY, YOU ALL MAD? I SAID, IMAGINE I HAVE NEW DOG TO NOT SO LONG.
I DON'T THINK I, I SENT OUT A RESOLUTION EARLIER TODAY ON PERTAINING TO A REVOLVING AS PART OF OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE COUNTY TO TAKE OVER THAT SYSTEM.
SO WHAT THIS DOES IS THE RESOLUTION TO PUT THAT LINE IN OUR NAME, WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL BRAND NEEDS FROM THAT SYSTEM.
THIS RESOLUTION WILL AUTHORIZE PERMISSION TO LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE TRANSFER OF THAT LEMON, ALONG WITH THE TRANSFER OF THE SYSTEM, CANDIDLY, THAT SET FOR SOMETIME IN LATE MARCH, AS LONG AS THE LOAN IS, I THINK, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY MORE YEARS WRONG.
IT'S IT'S A NUMBER OF YEARS STILL LEFT ON THAT.
UH, THE REVENUES FROM THE SYSTEM ARE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TIMES REVENUE.
IT WAS JUST PART OF THE, THE SYSTEM AND ALL THE BAGGAGE THAT COMES WITH.
CAN WE TAKE, WE TAKE THE LIABILITIES SYSTEM ALONG WITH THE, I THINK IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS, WE WOULD JUST GIVE THE COUNTY THE MONEY.
THEY WOULDN'T MAKE THE PAYMENT THIS WAY.
IT JUST ELIMINATES THE MIDDLEMAN.
WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, KATIE.
UH, THE OTHER ISSUE I WANTED TO JUST BRIEFLY TOUCH WITH THE BOARD, THE GOVERNORS
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WITHHOLDING MONEY FROM CITY COUNTY STATE TO CITY OF NEW BERN.THAT ACTION HAS TO BE BACKED UP ABOUT $708,000 IMPACT ON OUR BUDGET.
SO THIS IS A HALF YEAR IN THAT BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE HALF OF YOUR LEFT.
AND BASICALLY, SO WE'RE HAVING TO SCRAMBLE TO TRY TO MAKE THE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE WILL HAVE IN ORDER TO HOLD THOSE LOSSES TO A MINIMUM.
AND AS PART OF THAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE BASICALLY IS ARE A LOT OF OUR RESOURCES.
AND WE HAVE THE PURCHASE OF SOME EQUIPMENT DEFERRED TRAVEL.
THERE
AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, THEY REVIEW ALL THE INVOICES THAT COME IN.
AND IF WE'RE NOT SHUTTING DOWN THAT REPAIRS, IF THERE IS, IF THE DEPARTMENT COULD NOT WRITE FOR THAT, BE EXPANDED TO YOUR PERIOD.
AND SO BY DOING THAT, WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SCRAMBLE IT UP, TO MINIMIZE THE LOSSES THAT THE GOVERNOR'S PUT OFF.
SO WE'RE NOT COUNTING ON ANY OF THEM, BUT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE GOING THROUGH THEIR BUDGETS RATHER THAN IDENTIFY SAVINGS.
WE'LL TRY TO REPORT TO YOU THE ACTIONS THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING ON CITIES WERE GETTING HARDER IN THIS.
THE COUNTIES WERE
SO THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU LOOK AT RALEIGH EIGHT, MAYBE 600 NOW
AND THE REAL BAD THING ABOUT THE SITUATION IS THE SAME THING AS GIVING THE STATE WRONG IS ALREADY AFFECTING OUR SALES TAX REVENUES ARE DOWN.
OTHER TIMES, REVENUES ARE DOWN AS A RESULT.
WE WERE HANDLING THAT PRETTY WELL, BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WITH THIS COMING OFF OF IT, JUST REALLY DIFFICULT TO KEEP HER HEAD
HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T NOTICE MUCH WHAT'S GOING ON ALL THAT WE MAY SUFFER.
YES,
THIS WAS A CONTRACTOR WORKING FOR A CONTRACTOR WHO WAS WORKING WITH CITY SIDE.
IT'S GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO GO BACK THROUGH, BUT I SUSPECT THAT THE MAIN THING WILL BE THE CONTRACT.
AND THEN FINALLY INTO, I'M NOT A LAWYER, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL, WHAT'S YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR 25.
DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THAT? UH, GOODNIGHT.