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          THEN WE'LL CALL THEM MEETING THE ORDER. 
          AND LET'S SAY WE'RE LIKE WITH A PRAYER BY ROBIN MARK RICHARDS OF THE CORNERSTONE ASSEMBLY OF GOD, CHURCH BOTHERING ME OR SO BREAK THE BANK, COME INTO YOUR PRESENCE. 
          AND WE ASK LORD THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US WISDOM. 
          WE THANK YOU, LORD JESUS FOR THE RESPECTIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, THOSE THAT ARE HONORED AS ALDERMAN AND ELDER WOMEN, THAT LORD JESUS, YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM TO GOVERN THIS AREA OF THE COUNTRY. 
          THAT LORD JESUS, YOU WOULD GIVE THEM DIVINE DIRECTION. 
          WE THANK YOU LORD FOR YOUR PRESENCE IN OUR LIVES. 
          WE THANK YOU FOR BLESSING OUR HOMES, OUR PROPERTIES. 
          WE THANK YOU MORE THAT WE CAN CLEAN UP AFTER THIS HURRICANE AND THAT LORD JESUS, YOU WILL HELP US TO WATCH OVER THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO US. 
          LORD, WE PRAY YOUR BLESSING AND A PIECE OF YOUR TIMES, YOUR STRENGTH UPON THOSE THAT GOVERN OVER US. 
          WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THEM. 
          LORD JESUS, WATCH OVER THEM. 
          WE THANK YOU LORD TONIGHT FOR THE BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE IN THIS AGENDA. 
          LORD, YOUR PRESENCE WOULD BE FELT AND YOUR WISDOM, LORD, JESUS WOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGED FATHER AND EVERYTHING WE SAY AND DO SOMEHOW LAURA WOULD GO TO JESUS AND FATHER WITH THIS BUSINESSES DOWN COMPLETELY WE'LL KNOW THIS. 
          SOMEHOW WE'VE ENACTED YOUR WORD IN JESUS' NAME. 
          WE PRAY YEAH, PLEASE. 
          UM, I'M SURE EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THIS STORM. 
          IT TOOK PLACE SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET AND UH, I GUESS WE CAN PROMISE, SAVE THEM TILL MISCELLANEOUS. 
          THAT'S THE MAIN PROBLEM WITH ONLY A FAIRLY SHORT MEETING, BUT, UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, FEELS REAL GOOD TO BE HERE. 
          AND UH, SOMEBODY WAS THANKING GOD AND UH, I THINK THERE WERE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN CONVERSATION. 
          NOW THE NIGHT WHEN THE MAKER, I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT IF WE CAUSE UH, THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES WORSE THAN IT WAS MANY TIMES AND MAY HAVE YOUR TOTAL ABSOLUTE MIRROR, ATLANTA ACT OF GOD THAT, UH, THE LOSS OF LIFE AND INJURY WAS, WAS NOT ANY MORE THAN IT WAS, WHICH IN FACT, DID ANYBODY GET KILLED? DON'T THINK I HEARD ANYTHING. 
          AND UH, SOMETIMES PEOPLE WONDER ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S A GOD OR NOT. 
          I DON'T THINK MAN IS CAPABLE OF DESTROYING THAT MUCH AND NOT HURTING ANYBODY. 
          AND SO THAT TOLD ME SOMEBODY WHO WAS IN CHARGE, I'LL PUT IT TO YOU THAT WAY. 
          SO, UH, ANYWAY, WE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THAT, I GUESS, MISCELLANEOUS. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE OUR SEWER UPDATE BY CITY ENGINEER AND GET THINGS ROLLING. 
          THE BOARD, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT REPORT IS SHORT SWEET TO THE POINT. 
          UH, WE TREATED AN AVERAGE OF 2.9 MILLION GALLONS A DAY DURING THE MONTH OF JUNE OR A TOTAL OF 86, 86 0.18 GALLON OR B A D EFFICIENCY REMOVAL WAS 90% ARE SUSPENDED. 
          SOLIDS REMOVAL IS A 90%. 
          WE PASSED OUR TOXICITY AND WE PASSED OUR QUARTERLY PHOSPHORS EVERYTHING PLAN IS DOING VERY WELL LEADERSHIP QUESTIONS AND YOU'RE RIGHT WHEN REPORT IS THAT GOOD AND SHORT AND IT'S, AND IT DOES SEEM TO BE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, BUT FOR A SOCIAL REPORT TO BE SLEEP. 
          BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          LET'S SEE HERE. 
          NEXT THING WE GOT IS A PRESENTATION TO CONSIDER PROVIDING SEWER SERVICE TO THE VOLUNTEER OF AMERICA'S PROPOSED HOUSING COMPLEX OFF OF KENSINGTON PARK DRIVE. 
          WHO'S GOING TO MIC, YOU STARTED STATE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU LIVE MY LABOR 1900 PINE TREE DRIVE. 
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UH, UH, OKAY. 
          I HAVE SCOTT READING YOUR, UM, WITH US, UH, THIS EVENING, SCOTT, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE VOA PROJECT ON KENSINGTON PARK DRIVE. 
          AND HE'S ALSO WORKED WITH US ON THE GREEN PARK TERRACE APARTMENTS, UH, PROGRAM, BOTH OF WHICH, UH, HAVE BEEN FUNDED AND COMMITTED. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE MOVING ALONG, UH, WELL ON THOSE DURING THE INITIAL, UH, PRESENTATION OF THE, UH, KENSINGTON PARK PROJECT, UH, THE CITY AGREED TO ASSIST THE PROJECT BY APPLYING FOR A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BRAND THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE SEWER, THE PUMP STATION FORCE MONEY, UH, FOR THESE, UH, 47 UNITS AND COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          UH, WE, THIS SUMMER EARLY, I GUESS IT WAS OR LATE SPRING RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM THE, UH, VISION COMMUNITY ASSISTANTS THAT THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT MONEY FOR THE YEAR 1996 WON'T HAVE ANY UNTIL 1997. 
          SO WE BEGAN TO WORK TO SEE HOW THE PROJECT COULD STILL BE DONE. 
          UM, THEY WERE READY TO CLOSE IN SEPTEMBER ON THE LOAN, UH, THAT THEY HAD FOR THE VOA PROJECT AND BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN OCTOBER. 
          UM, THEY RESTRUCTURED HOW THE SEWER WOULD BE HANDLED. 
          UH, THERE'VE BEEN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THEIR CONSULTANT ENGINEER. 
          AND WHAT THEY'VE MANAGED TO DO IS TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PUMP STATION, UH, AND PUT IT ON THE SITE OF VOA COMPLEX, UH, TO BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THEM IN HUD WOULD ALLOW THAT AS A PART OF THE PROJECT, BUT, UH, COULD NOT PAY FOR THE FORCE MAIN FROM THE PROJECT DOWN TO THE CITY LINE. 
          THAT'S OUT THERE IN THE STREET AND ASKED THE CITY, UH, TO PARTICIPATE BY DOING THAT. 
          UH, UH, WE HAVE LOOKED AROUND AND WE DO HAVE FUNDS IN OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM, INCOME FUNDS THAT CAN COVER THE US. 
          UH, IT APPEARS TO BE A VERY GOOD USE FOR THE MONEY WE'RE TALKING A COST OF ABOUT $242 PER UNIT. 
          IF YOU SPREAD IT OVER 47 UNITS THERE, UH, TO PROVIDE SEWER TO THESE, UH, UH, UH, ASSISTED ELDERLY HOUSING UNITS. 
          UM, AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SCOTT AND HE CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT. 
          UH, OUR PRIMARY CONCERN IS THEY WANT TO CLOSE IN SEPTEMBER AND GET STARTED IN OCTOBER. 
          AND THIS IS A WAY THAT WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR, THE COSTS GO UP AND GO OUT AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
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          I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT. 
          ON BEHALF OF THE VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA, AS MIKE SAID, FOR ME, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN FUNDED BY HUD. 
          I'M ALSO PLEASED TO INFORM YOU, AS MIKE SAID, THE PROJECT AT GREEN PARK HARRIS HAS BEEN FUNDED BY, UH, THE NORTH COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY, FEDERAL HOME LOAN BANK. 
          UH, AND SO THAT ONE WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS CLOSING THAT ONE ALSO, UH, THIS FALL, UM, 
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THIS VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA, AS MIKE SAID, PLANS TO BUILD 47 APARTMENT UNITS, 46, 1 MANAGER IN UNITS, UH, AS THE PLAN SHOWS AND ONE, TWO BEDROOM UNIT FOR OUR HOME SITE MANAGER THAT WILL LIVE ON SITE. 
          THE COMPLEX WILL ALSO INCLUDE A COMMUNITY BUILDING FROM APPROXIMATELY 2,700 SQUARE FEET. 
          THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM IS 1200 SQUARE FEET, AND IT'S SHOWN ON THE, UH, FOUR PLANS. 
          AND THE BUILDING ALSO HAS AN EXERCISE ROOM. 
          WE MET, UH, AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THELMA CHADWICK AND UNITED SENIOR SERVICES. 
          WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT, UH, BUILDING A, UM, ELDERLY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT HERE IN DUPER, WE LEARNED, UH, THAT SHE HAD A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR HER SENIOR ACTIVITIES. 
          AND WE HAVE OFFERED THIS COMMUNITY BUILDING TO, FOR, FOR HER USE AND FOR USE OF ELDERLY RESIDENTS IN NEWBURGH, FREE OF CHARGE. 
          UM, TONYA CEDARS WITH UNITED SENIOR SERVICES IS HERE TONIGHT. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY MAY OFFER TO THE RESIDENTS OF NEWBURY AND CRAVEN COUNTY, THERE, SHE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, UH, FOR YOU. 
          UH, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL COST ABOUT 2 MILLION, $310,538, UH, ACCORDING TO OUR CONTRACTOR. 
          UM, AND IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ELDERLY PERSONS WHOSE INCOMES ARE LESS THAN $12,900 A YEAR. 
          UM, THE REASON THAT I'M HERE TONIGHT IS TO REQUEST, UH, $11,369 TO PAY FOR THE EXTENSION OF A THREE-INCH, UH, FORCE MAIN. 
          THAT'S APPROXIMATELY A WHERE THE ANIMALS, THE SITE, THE NEW SCHOOL OF ART HUD WILL NOT PAY FOR ALL SIDES IMPROVEMENTS WITH ITS FONTS. 
          AND IT'S MY PENSION. 
          UH, WHEN, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING WITH THE STAFF ABOUT THIS, THE STAFF WAS PLANNING TO, UH, REQUEST, UH, FUNDS OF STATE MONEY. 
          AND, UH, WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE READY TO CLOSE IN SEPTEMBER AND ACTUALLY START CONSTRUCTION IN OCTOBER. 
          AND WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THIS ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY. 
          UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WHERE DO YOU ANTICIPATE GETTING GET NEW TENANTS? UM, WE DID A, A SURVEY OF, OF THE AREA BEFORE WE DECIDED TO APPLY FOR THIS APPLICATION. 
          IN FACT, WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, AND BASICALLY THEY NEVER WILL COME FROM, UH, CRAVEN COUNTY. 
          AND, UH, AND NEWBURGH IS WHERE WE BELIEVE THE TENANTS WILL COME FROM. 
          UM, HUD, YOU HAVE ECONOMIST, THEY DO THEIR OWN KIND OF INDIVIDUAL STUDY OF NEEDS AND IT SCORED WELL WITH HUD. 
          THEN WE HAD ALSO SURVEYED EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT SERVE THE ELDERLY HERE, AND THEY ALL WERE MAINTAINING, WAITING LISTS. 
          UH, AND YOU'RE TALKING WITH PEOPLE LIKE A FILM ACADEMY. 
          WE LEARNED THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THEM WHERE THEY ALL SO BENEFIT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE, WE BELIEVE. 
          HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE FOR THE SEWER CHARGES TO PAY FOR THE LIVE? IT WOULD PAY FOR IT RELATIVELY FAST. 
          THAT'S NOT A VERY LARGE INVESTMENT. 
          SO IT REALLY IS. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY $11,000 FOREVER, ESPECIALLY LIKE I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. 
          WHAT DO YOU CLASSIFY THE ELDERLY AS BEING 62 YEARS OF AGE AND OLDER? UH UH, THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY NICE FACILITY. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLANETS AND SIGNATURES IN THE WINGS, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SCREENED IN PORCHES. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE AN H A T O TELEVISION ROOM. 
          WHAT I CALL A LITTLE SNACK ROOM AND THEN THE LAUNDRY ROOM AND, UH, PLUS THE COMMUNITY BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE AVAILABLE NOT ONLY FOR USE BY OUR TENANTS, BUT THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE AND THE COUNTY AND COMMUNITY RESIDENTS OF THAT AREA, HAVING A PRIORITY. 
          I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT PEOPLE COME FROM EVERYWHERE. 
          PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T IN THE COUNTY HAD PRIORITY. 
          LET ME EXPLAIN HOW WE HAD TO TELL HER BASICALLY HOW WE PROPOSE MARKET THIS. 
          UH, WE, WE PLANNING TO, FIRST OF ALL, WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH UNITED SENIOR SERVICES THAT SHE HAS, UM, PROMOTE THE 
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FACT THAT, THAT THIS HOUSING WILL BE AVAILABLE. 
          AND, UH, TWO PERSONS THERE, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE WORKING WITH A GENTLEMAN NAMED BOOKER JONES, UH, OPERATES. 
          UH, AND HE'S GOING TO BE LETTING YOU KNOW, PERSONS THAT HE KNOWS WHERE IT IS. 
          UH, WE'LL ALSO BE CONTACTING THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. 
          UH, WE'LL BE ACTUALLY CONTACTING, UH, SOME OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE FAIRLY LARGE WAITING LIST AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING THEIR MANAGERS AWARE OF THIS IN CASE THEY WANT TO PASS THIS INFORMATION ON, IN ADVERTISING IN THE PAPER. 
          SO I FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO A GOOD JOB OF GETTING THE WORD OUT AND, UH, MAKING ALL OF THE PERSONS IN THIS COMMUNITY AWARE OF IT, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, A PROGRAM THAT IS APPLIED FOR BACK COMMUNITIES. 
          AND HUD DOES LOOK AT CRAVEN COUNTY AND, UH, NEW BROOMS NEEDS. 
          AND THAT'S HOW THEY HELP MAKE DECISIONS ON WHETHER TO PROVIDE IT IN NEWBURN OR SOME OTHER COMMUNITY. 
          CAUSE WE CAN FEED IT WITH, UH, A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE, UH, LAST SUMMER FOR RESPONSE, UM, PROPOSED. 
          AND I THINK AS A BOY AT THAT TIME, I RECALL WE HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS, THE FACT THAT YOU MIGHT BE COMING BACK ASKING US FOR ASSISTANCE AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LETTER, THE, UH, CITY STAFF INDICATED HE WAS WILLING TO APPLY FOR FUNDING FROM THE STATE. 
          UM, SIR, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE FOUND SURVEY THAT ABOUT HALF OF OUR TENANTS HAVE CARS. 
          AND WE ALSO WORKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES ABOUT PARTS. 
          THAT'S THE PROGRAM HERE, A VEGAS, MR. BAYLESS. 
           BASICALLY, HE TOLD US, UM, WELL, UH, THE MAYOR TOLD US THAT HE MAKES VANS AVAILABLE WITH CARDS. 
          IS THAT WHAT IT WAS MR. PURVIS HAS TOLD US THAT THE CARDS PROGRAM WOULD BE AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, AND BE ABLE TO HELP OUR TENANTS GET TO SHOPPING TO, TO, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS AND PROGRAMS LIKE THAT. 
          I HAVE SEVERAL THOUGHTS ON THIS, UM, WORKING WITH, UH, UNITED TRI COUNTY, TRYING TO GET THEM HOME SIMILAR, THIS BUILT IN THE CRAVEN COUNTY AND CRAVEN COUNTY, THE CITY OF NEWBURGH HAS MADE NOTE IN MANY WAYS, IT'S DESIGNED TO MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AVAILABLE AT ALL LEVELS. 
          UH, AND THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IS VERY DESIRABLE. 
          I ALSO HAVE A VERY PERSONAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEED. 
          I HAVE A MOTHER WHO WAS VERY CLOSE TO 90 YEARS OF AGE, WHO STILL LIVES ALONE AND PREFERS IT THAT WAY. 
          BUT WHOSE INCOME IS NOT SUCH THAT SHE CAME OR HEALTH IS NOT SUCH EITHER THAT SHE CAN MAINTAIN A LARGE DWELLING. 
          AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT SHE NEEDS. 
          HER NAME IS ON THE WAITING LIST AT A LOCAL FACILITY AT THIS TIME. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, I'LL BE 62 AT TWO YEARS, WHO KNOWS, UH, WITH ALL OF THIS IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MR. LEE, I'LL BE GLAD TO TOSS ALL THAT, SIR. 
          JEFFERSON AIRPLANE TO THE SONG CALLED VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA. 
          I JUST WANT HER TO DEVELOP NO, SIR. 
          I KNOW THE OTHER DAY, VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS A HUNDRED YEARS. 
           DIFFERENT PROJECTS. 
          ONE THING THAT MR EDINGER WILL NEED IS A RESOLUTION SO THAT IT CAN BE SENT TO HUD. 
          SO I SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER EARLIER. 
          IF THE MOTION COULD BE TO SUPPORT THIS AND ASK FOR THE RESOLUTION, BE DRAWN OFF TO BE ADOPTED AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS ACTUALLY REQUIRING THAT THE FUNDS FOR THE SEWER IMPROVEMENTS BE ESCROWED. 
          UH, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PRESENT THEM A RESOLUTION FROM THE CITY OF NEWARK AND SAY THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS, IS GOOD. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THESE PHONES SEPARATELY, ASTRO, AND, UM, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL, THEY'LL ACCEPT THAT. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          I GOT A LITTLE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE VOTE. 
          I WANT TO TACK ON TO WHAT BARBARA MENTIONED EARLIER. 
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I MEAN, ALL OF THEM AND LEE MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, IS IT, IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD HAVE A RULE STATING THAT, THAT, THAT THERE WAS A PRIORITY FOR ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO RESIDE IN NEWBURN BECAUSE OF, SINCE WE'RE SPENDING CITY TAX DOLLARS, THEY OUGHT TO BE SOME ADVANTAGES OF OUR DOING THAT BESIDES GETTING THE AVALARA TAXES ON THE FACILITY AND, UH, W WATER AND SEWER FEES, IS THAT, IS THAT ANY WAY FEASIBLE? BECAUSE IF IT'S FEASIBLE, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH ELDERLY PEOPLE IN NEWBURN WHO COULD FEEL THESE FOLKS UP. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO THEM GET A PREFERENCE OR SOME SORT OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, IF YOU WILL, FOR NEW-BORN RESIDENCE, IF IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN HAVE A REGULATION SAYING THAT THAT NEWBORN REF NEWBURN RESIDENTS HAVE A PRIORITY OF SOME TYPE, IF IT CAN BE ILLEGAL DONE, I DON'T KNOW IF HE CAN OR NOT. 
          AND I'M OF THE OPINION THAT YOU CAN GO TO ANYONE WHO MOVES IN HAD IT, ONE OF THE COMES AND YOU CAN'T JUST PUT A WALL AROUND THEM, SAY THE SAME, HOW YOU FLIP IT. 
          NO, W WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, OKAY. 
          UM, SUPPOSE SOMEONE FROM MAYSVILLE FOR THEIR APARTMENTS OR SOMEONE FROM JAMES CITY OR SOMEONE, JUST SOMEONE IN CRAVEN COUNTY, OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, THEY OUGHT TO BE A WAY THAT YOU CAN HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR SOMEONE APPLYING THAT'S LIVING CURRENTLY LIVING IN, IN, LET'S SAY, IN A INADEQUATE FOR HOME IN NEWARK, THEY MIGHT BE LIVING IN A PLACE IN NEWBURN WHERE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE RENT, OR THE HOME MAY NOT BE UP TO CODE, OR THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO JUST AFFORD THE HEATING COSTS IN A HOUSE IN THE CITY. 
          NOW HEARD AS A FEDERAL AGENCY ALLOW THAT I DON'T THINK SO. 
          UH, HERE'S WHAT I DID. 
          AND I MEAN, OUR HUD MADE THIS DECISION TO FUND THIS PROJECT BASED ON DEMOGRAPHICS IN GRAY COUNTY NEWBURGH. 
          AND YOU COMPETED AGAINST OTHER NON-URBAN CITIES IN THIS STATE FOR THESE DOGS. 
          AND SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO MARKET THE UNITS THROUGH AGENCIES IN CRAVEN COUNTY. 
          NUMEROUS. 
          I CANNOT SAY THAT PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY MAY NOT HEAR ABOUT IT AND APPLY. 
          AND I DO NOT THINK THAT YOU COULD EXCLUDE THEM WELL, YES, SINCE IS THINK AND NOT A DEFINITIVE. 
          NO, YOU CAN'T. 
          CAN'T WE AT LEAST EXPLORE THAT AS A POSSIBILITY. 
          IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD HAVE A REGULATION JUST GRANTING A PREFERENCE TO AN ELDERLY PERSON THAT'S RESIDING IN NEW BRAND. 
          WE'RE NOT EXCLUDING ANYONE, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE, IF, IF YOU, UH, IF YOU WERE AN EMPLOYEE OF DUKE UNIVERSITY, YOUR CHILDREN HAVE A PREFERENCE TO GO TO SCHOOL AT THE UNIVERSITY. 
          ROBERT, I THINK THE PROBLEM THAT I'VE RUN INTO THIS BEFORE IN STORES, I DID BEFORE I RETIRED AS A JOURNALIST AND THE GENERAL THINKING OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS PUTTING EVERYBODY'S TAX MONEY INTO THIS. 
          THEREFORE EVERYONE HAS AN EQUAL RIGHT TO APPLY TO LIVE THERE. 
          THEY'RE NOT JUST PUTTING INTO THIS UNIT TAX DOLLARS THAT WERE COLLECTED FROM CITIZENS OF CRAVEN COUNTY. 
          THEREFORE THEY CANNOT RESTRICT THE RESTRICTED, THE RESIDENTS ONLY TO THOSE RIGHT IN THE COUNTY THAT HAS BEEN THE GENERAL POLICY IN THE PAST, BUT THAT'S THE REASONING. 
          BUT I THINK AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION GROUP THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS AREA, IT RESIDES IN THE CITY OF NUTANIX. 
          AND SO I THINK AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THAT'S GOING TO REALLY TAKE CARE OF ITSELF ALL OF MY BRAIN, OR BECAUSE, UH, UH, I WOULD SAY THAT THE SAME PROPORTION OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE OCCUPYING THAT, UH, THOSE UNITS THAT ARE, ARE OCCUPYING UNITS THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY. 
          AND I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO MEAN THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE GOING TO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS, RIGHT? LIKE YOU SAID, THOUGH, IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T THE MONEY GRANTED DUE TO THE, THE APPLICATION WITH THE DEMOGRAPHIC DEMOGRAPHICS AND CRAVEN COUNTY AND NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          I DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE THE GAME AFTER WE, YOU GET THE AWARD TO JUST INCLUDE THAT CERTAIN SMALL GROUP OF NOT SMALL, BUT A SUBSET OF THAT AT TITLE IN YOUR MIND,  PUT SOME OF THEIR MONEY. 
          , , YOU KNOW, AN HOUR LIKE TO SAY THIS, THAT THE SUCCESS OF THIS APPLICATION, THIS SUCCESS OF THE APPLICATION FOR GREEN PARK TERRACE IS DUE IN LARGE PART TO THIS COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S NOT DUE TO THE EFFORTS OF 
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A VLA. 
           DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE, UH, UNITED SENIOR SERVICES. 
          YOU HAVE HUMAN SERVICES AGENCIES THAT WERE WILLING TO WORK AND COME TOGETHER TO SUPPORT THIS AND TRY TO MEET THIS GAME. 
          YOU HAVE CITY STAFF THAT WORK HARD, UH, ON THESE APPLICATIONS AND YOU YOURSELF AS A CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTED IT. 
          UH, THE DEMOGRAPHICS WERE HERE. 
          THERE WERE DEMOGRAPHICS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES TO THIS SUPPORTING NEEDS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES, BUT, UH, FELT WELL ABOUT THE EFFORTS THAT THE CITY AND YOUR COUNTY AND YOUR HUMAN SERVICE AGENCIES WERE MAKING TOWARDS THIS BRAND. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE STATE HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY IN THE FEDERAL HOME LOAN BANK FELT LIKEWISE ABOUT GREEN PARK HARRIS. 
          I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU, UH, AS A CITY COUNCIL, UH, AS A MANAGER, AND AS IN YOUR STAFF AND YOUR PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAT WORK WITH THE ELDERLY FOR MAKING THESE UNITS AVAILABLE TO MEET YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU'RE CONGRATULATED FOR THAT EFFORT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          THE SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? STRAIGHT, JUST NOISE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO WHAT'S A VOICE VOTE TO HAVE THE RESOLUTION THEN ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED. 
          ISN'T IT STRANGE HOW THE HUMAN MIND WORKS? I DON'T THINK I'LL HAVE A MASTER, WHICH ONE IS A VOICE VOTE. 
          AND YET THERE ARE OTHER THINGS SLIGHTLY MORE COMPLICATED. 
           I HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT I NEED SOMEBODY IN THE BACK WITH SOME SEMAPHORE FLAG. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT THING IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE COLD, I THINK I KNOW, RIGHT? OKAY. 
          YES, YES, YEAH. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THE NEXT THING IS A PART THAT'S GOING TO START THE NUT. 
          YES, I DO. 
          YOU HAVE THE PAPERWORK THERE FOR, UH, APPOINTMENT TO THE NOMINATION? IS THAT RIGHT?  I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE TO THE POLICE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD PHARMACIST, JAMES O F MORE, WHICH HAS PREVIOUSLY SERVED TWO YEARS, UH, TWO TERMS ON THE BOARD OF HEALTH AND DID A MAGNIFICENT JOB. 
          AND SINCE HE'S BEEN IN MANAGEMENT, SOMETIMES HE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE EMPLOYMENT GRIEVANCE PROCEDURE OR CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES. 
          LOCAL YEAH. 
          THIS PLACE DID THE NOMINATION. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW I'LL MAKE A MOTION. 
          WE BE APPROVED. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. 
          NOW WE'RE NOW IN THE MISCELLANEOUS. 
          IT'S NOT NO MUSCLE LIKE MS. LEE. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO DO TODAY IN THE LAB, AGGRAVATED PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF NEW BIRD ARE SO PROUD, PROUD OF THE CITIZENS WHO CALL ME  BAGS. 
          OH, REALLY GREAT JOB. 
          THERE WAS ONE MAN THAT WAS SO  HAD BEEN TORN AWAY FROM THE HOUSE. 
          I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO ADD MY, THANKS TO THE CITY EMPLOYEES. 
          I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB. 
          AND MY APOLOGIES TO RESIDENTS ON THE THIRD BOARD WHO WERE UNABLE TO REACH ME BY TELEPHONE, BECAUSE I DID NOT HAVE A TELEPHONE BACK SERVICE UNTIL WEDNESDAY. 
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UH, WE DO HAVE A SECOND PHONE THERE, BUT IT'S NOT LISTED IN MY NAME. 
          IT'S LISTED IN MY WIFE'S NAME. 
          I DID THE BEST I COULD TO PUT AN ANSWERING MACHINE MESSAGE ON OUR PHONE, WHICH PEOPLE COULD HEAR US, BUT WE COULDN'T HEAR THEM REFERRING THEM TO THE OTHER NUMBER. 
          SO GOD HIMSELF, WELL, I JUST WANTED THE PEOPLE THAT THIS IS WHAT IT'S LIKE. 
          IF THEY'VE NEVER BEEN THROUGH ONE OF THESE STORMS AND WE GET ANOTHER ONE, IT'S ALL OVER THE WORLD. 
          AND FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE SEEN THE REFUSE BEING PILED UP IN LAWSON CREEK PARK, THAT'S BECAUSE THERE SIMPLY IS NO OTHER PLACE TO PUT IT FOR THE TIME BEING. 
          AND IT IS GOING TO BE RAPIDLY TAKEN CARE OF AT BEING GROUNDED. 
          THE BALLGAME WILL NOT REMAIN THERE. 
          LOSS OF CREEK AND THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE. 
          ALL OF THAT MATERIAL WILL BE PICKED UP AND RUBBED THROUGH A MULCHING FACILITY AND MADE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO WISHES TO USE IT IN THEIR HOME, THEIR WALL TO GARDEN WHO'S EVER USED THAT MONEY. 
          WE'LL USE THAT MUCH. 
          AND WE'LL GET RID THAT WON'T STAY IN THE PARK. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE KIND OF A QUESTION WHEN YOU'RE COMING AROUND THESE ROWS JUDGE, HAVING A LINE SOLID AT TREE FELL INTO THAT HOUSE IS THAT TREE LIKE YOU, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS  IN THIS HALF OF THIS TO ME, THE HOUSE THAT CELL SITS RIGHT ON THE STREET, BUT ON THE CARPET IS, YEAH, WE HAVE SAY IT IS, UH, AT SOME POINT IN TIME I KNEW SOMETHING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          HOPEFULLY DON'T THINK THEY HAD ANY, ANY INSURANCE, UH, FEMA POSSIBLY. 
          WELL, GOOD. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM. 
          WE HAVE OBTAINED MY , BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE IS PEOPLE HAVE CALLED AND ASKED ME, HOW DID THEY GET, UH, UH, EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE TO THIS ACCIDENT? AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE CAN MAKE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I WISH I HAD A CALL WITH  MY OFFICE  BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A COPY OF THE NUMBERS  AND SO THERE SHOULD BE NO REAL PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          AND THEY'RE IN TOWN AND ASK, CAN WE GET THAT INTO PIPER DAY? YES. 
          LET'S PUT THAT TO PAPER. 
          THAT NUMBER THEY ALL CALLED ME TO, NONE OF THEM CALL ME I DON'T KNOW THE SUBJECT THAT I HAD THE STORM ON MY MIND AND ALMOST FORGOT TO MENTION YESTERDAY. 
          I SPENT THE DAY IN RALEIGH FOR THE NORTH CAROLINA LEAGUE OF THIS POLITICS, TRANSPORTATION, COMMUNICATION, AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE. 
          AND WE WENT INTO DETAIL AND INTO PROBLEMS THAT COULD BE PRESENTED ON A VERY BIG FINANCIAL, UH, NATURE IN THE FUTURE FOR ALL CITIES IN NORTH CAROLINA, THE REVISION OF THE COMMUNICATIONS ACT. 
          I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, UH, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GIVE EACH OTHER NOTES ON IT. 
          IT'S A LOT EASIER THAN TRYING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE RIGMAROLE HERE AND ALSO THAT THEY HOPE THAT THE LEGISLATURE WILL GIVE UP. 
          BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, HE GOT US A BUDGET. 
          HE HAD THE RALEIGH QUIT SPENDING MONEY AS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. BRIAN. 
          WELL, I HATE TO REPEAT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAID, BUT I'M TO I'M TO, UH, ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES FOR THE EFFORTS DURING THE, UH, THE DISASTER WE HAD WITH HURRICANE BERTHA. 
          AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL THE, MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE SECOND WARD THAT IF YOU COULDN'T REACH ME, IT WAS BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, MAX, I DIDN'T HAVE A PHONE UNTIL TUESDAY NIGHT, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT IT WAS AN ACT OF GOD AND I JUST COULDN'T HELP HIM. 
          BUT, UH, UH, LAST, UH, MR. HARTMAN, WHAT WAS IT THAT YOU ASKED TO BE PUT IN THE PAPERS? I DON'T WANT TO WANT TO REPEAT THAT NUMBER FOR THE FEDERAL ASSISTANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT IS GOING TO BE FOR ANYONE WHO HAS, UH, A CLAIM FOR DAMAGE. 
          THAT'S NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE. 
          THEY WANT TO, ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO CHECK OUT, JUST TO BE SURE THAT BE THE NUMBER TO COSTS. 
          NOW, SOMEONE WAS PASSING OUT A YELLOW SHEET. 
          IS THAT THE SAME? THAT'S NO, 
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THAT IS, THAT'S SOMETHING, THAT'S A SCAM. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT TO ALL THE PEOPLE NEW-BORN AND I DON'T KNOW REALLY HOW TO PUT IT. 
          THE CITY WORKERS DID A TREMENDOUS JOB. 
          UH, EVERYTHING THAT I HAD ASKED HIM TO DO, WHICH WAS JUST SOMETHING PASSED ON FROM, WAS SET US IN THE, WHATEVER, UH, EVIDENTLY THEY TOOK CARE OF IT AND GREAT ON THE GREAT MANNER. 
          I WAS, I HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL ME BACK AND TELL ME HOW PLEASED THEY WERE AND I'VE GOTTEN LETTERS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. 
          AND REALLY, ONCE AGAIN, IT WAS A GOOD TIME TO BE MAYOR SAMPLING BY ACCIDENT. 
          AND I'M THE FIRST ONE TO ADMIT IT. 
          I LIKE TO SAY THAT. 
          AND I MADE IT PEOPLE THAT KNOW ME KNOW THAT I, I MEAN, WHEN I SAY, AND I TRULY, UH, IF I HAD TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER ONE AND, UM, I WAS BORN HERE, SO I'VE BEEN THROUGH QUITE A FEW. 
          I WOULDN'T TRADE OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR, UH, WATER AND SEWER AND, UH, ELECTRICAL DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY FOR ANYBODY ELSE'S ANYWHERE. 
          AND, UH, I KNOW WE HAVE A FIREMAN'S MUSEUM WHERE THE CITY OF NEW HAVEN SET, SOME WORLDS RECORDS THAT ARE STILL OLD. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY COMPETITION OR ANYTHING AROUND FIRE DEPARTMENTS ANYWHERE, BUT I'LL BE WILLING TO PUT THEM UP WITH YES, MOST PHONES AND I THINK THEY'RE COMING OUT PRETTY GOOD. 
          SO, UH, I WAS REAL PROUD OF, AND I'LL TELL YOU ANOTHER THING I'M PROUD OF. 
          AND THAT WAS THE AMAZING, UH, ABILITY OF THE RESIDENTS AROUND. 
          I HIT A BOUNCE BACK. 
          AND I MEAN, THE NOT ONLY THE NATIVES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE IN THE VAN THROUGH IT BEFORE, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN THERE THAT LONG, THEY, THEY REALLY ARE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND THEY PROVE IT BY THE WAY THEY BOUNCE BACK. 
          AND, UH, IT'S PRETTY AMAZING. 
          I TOLD SOMEBODY A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, YOU KNOW, AND I SAID, GOOD LORD, DIDN'T CUT US DOWN. 
          HE JUST PRIMED US BACK A LITTLE BIT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GROW BACK, UH, I THINK WE'LL GROW BACK A LITTLE GREATER AND A LITTLE STRONGER AND BETTER THAN WE WERE BEFORE. 
          SO, UH, I WAS REAL PROUD. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS I WON'T FORGET IS MY MOTHER-IN-LAW. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD SAY OUR AGE, BUT I DON'T THINK SHE WATCHES ESL, BUT I BET A NOVEL. 
          LET'S JUST SAY SHE PROBABLY KNOWS. 
          MAX IS MY, AND MY WIFE AND MY DAUGHTER. 
          I DID THE STEPS AT MY MOTHER-IN-LAW'S HOUSE. 
          WHEN THEY SAT ON THE RADIO, THE TORNADO WAS FIVE POUNDS. 
          HE USED TO NEED ONE. 
          IT HADN'T BEEN NUMEROUS. 
          AND I'M ONE OF THESE PEOPLE AT WORK ALL THE TIME AND THINGS ARE, UH, NORMAL. 
          BUT THEN WHEN THINGS GET REALLY EXCITED, I'M THE GUY THAT'S CALLED. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF FUNNY. 
          MY MIND HAS TO HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK ON IT'S OFF, BUT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, ALL THAT, ALL I COULD THINK OF IS THREE GENERATIONS OF MONEY THAT IT WASN'T CROWDED. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE MY, I FELT LIKE IT WAS ALL GOING TO COME OUT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW HOW, BUT HE DID, BUT I'M STILL AMAZED THAT THAT MUCH COULD BE TORN UP AND NOBODY GET HURT OR A CENTER. 
          AND IT HAD SOME KIND OF A MESSAGE IN THERE FOR, FOR MOST OF US. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND REALLY ALONG A LOT OF OTHER THINGS IN LIFE, I GUESS. 
          BUT ANYWAY, UH, ONE THING THAT I, I WOULD RECALL FOR ALL, THAT'D BE ONE DAY, I GOT QUITE A FEW CALLS MYSELF AS CAN IMAGINE. 
          AND THEY RANGE ALL THE WAY FROM SOME REALLY SAD STORIES TO SIMON THAT WERE JUST FUNNY. 
          I MEAN, I CAN'T HELP IT. 
          THEY WERE JUST LIKE ONE GUY CALLED ME. 
          I'LL NEVER FORGET IT. 
          HE SAID, IS THIS THE MAYOR? I SAID, YEAH. 
          HE SAID, YOU GOT ANY POWER? I SAID, NO. 
          HE SAID, UH  YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE SOME OF THEM. 
          BUT AGAIN, EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO, UH, SOME OF THEM WILL GET INTO A LITTLE FAN ON PATIENTS AFTER TWO OR THREE DAYS. 
          AND IT MADE ME FEEL BAD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES IT WASN'T REALLY A THING WE COULD DO ABOUT IT. 
          BUT, UH, I WAS OUT OF POWER MYSELF. 
          AND I'M SURE SOME OF YOU WHERE MY MOTHER-IN-LAW WAS RIGHT TO THE END, NOTHING. 
          AND, UH, BUT THEY TRULY DON'T MAKE, 'EM LIKE THEY USED TO, SHE LIVE IN PROOF OF IT TO BE HER AGENT, JUST MY RIDE HOME. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT, AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS OF IT, I BEGAN TO REALLY MISS IT MYSELF. 
          SO WHEN THOSE PEOPLE CALL ME UP, I KNEW EXACTLY HOW BAD THEY FELT, EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T GET MINE BACK AFTER MY DAY AND SOMETHING DAY AND A HALF, WHATEVER IT WAS. 
          BUT ANYWAY, UH, ALL THIS WHOLE BOARD IS REAL BROWN AND THE CITY WORKERS AND, AND THE, UH, CITIZENS AROUND HERE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THEY ALL FEEL LIKE I DID. 
          AND THAT IS THAT THEY'RE REAL PROUD TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS. 
          SO I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO GIVE TO ALL THE CITY WORKERS AND 
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THE CITIZENS ARE HANGING OUT. 
          WE WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER ONE, BUT IF WE DO, WE'LL JUST BATTEN THE HATCHES AND HAVE TO DO THE BEST WE CAN. 
          SO LET ME PUT IT TO YOU THIS WAY. 
          IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN MEYER, TRUST ME, AT LEAST SOMEBODY AWAKE, BUT I CAN TAKE IT COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. 
          I HAVE NO IDEA. 
          YOU KNOW, POLITICIANS DO STIR UP A LOT OF HIRE. 
          SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN, WE'VE DONE TAKE CARE OF. 
          SO WE'VE GOT TO RISE INTO A JAR, BRING THE HAMMER DOWN. 
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.