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IT AIN'T EVEN LIKE WALKING INTO THE BOARD ALMONDS MEETING AUGUST 13TH.

WE LIKE TO OPEN THIS EVENING WITH THE PRAYER OF OUR BISHOP CURTIS BROWN OF HIGHWAY, THE HEDGES CHURCH FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BISHOP BROWN TO FOLLOW THE WHOLE ROOMS AND THE SCHOOLS AND THE KINGDOM OF MAN, WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING ASKING YOU THAT GUIDANCE.

YES.

YOUR BLESSINGS AND WISDOM UPON THE MAYOR MILLER, PRETENDING THE BULLET WALDER IN ALL THE CITY OFFICIALS WHO LEAD US THAT, BUT THE ONLY HELP THEY WILL GET INDEED LEAD US FROM ONE DEGREE OF VICTORY TO ANOTHER ACKNOWLEDGING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE MAGIC AND MYSTERY.

WE WOULD NOT DARE TO SEEK, TO MAKE THE SOMETIMES COMPLEX DECISIONS WITHOUT THE, OF ALL THINGS THAT YOU WILL BE BUYING THEM AND US.

WE THANK YOU NOW IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN.

MADAM CLERK.

GIVE US ROLL CALL PLEASE.

UM, UM, FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS REQUEST A PETITION OF CITIZENS.

WE ASKED THAT THOSE THAT HAVE IN IT REQUESTS WOULD COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

AND WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU PLEASE LIMIT YOUR STATEMENT OR YOUR QUEST TO AT LEAST FIVE MINUTES.

IF IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOU'RE GOING TO NEED MORE THAN, UH, WE'LL MAKE THAT DECISION, WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHOULD CONTINUE ON OR WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS AT ANOTHER TIME.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE TONIGHT, A HUNDRED REQUESTS, A PETITION OF CITIZENS, COME ON, MY NAME FOR ROLES.

AND I COME TONIGHT BECAUSE OF AN ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA CONSENT AGENDA TO DO WITH THE BK FROM NASHVILLE.

AND I WENT TO REMIND YOU OF A FEW THINGS THAT PROBABLY A COUPLE OF MINUTES AROUND PREVIOUS BOARD.

DO YOU REMEMBER? AND THAT IS, THIS WAS TRIED ONCE BEFORE, WHENEVER FIRST CONSTRUCTING THAT THE INTERIM LANDFILL, THEY TRIED TO GET AN AGREEMENT THROUGH, TO PUT THE LIGGETT THROUGH THE CITY WATER, A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

AND THERE WAS AN OUTCRY THIS CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY IN GLEN BURNIE AREA, UH, SIGN PETITIONS AND, UH, UNDERTOOK ACTIVITY TO MAKE NONE OF THAT.

THEY DIDN'T WANT THIS LEAK AND GOING THROUGH THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, CONSEQUENTLY, IT WAS REJECTED.

THE BOARD REJECTED THAT IDEA.

AND I BELIEVE THAT ALSO REMAINED TO ME IN THE VOTERS MINDS DURING THE ELECTION THAT CAME UP SHORTLY THEREAFTER AND NO CHANGES HAPPENED ON THESE BOARDS.

UM, I THINK IT'S A BIG MISTAKE TO APPROVE DISAGREE.

THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS AND IT, WE DON'T KNOW HOW CORROSIVE THIS LEAK CHECK WILL BE TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

AND I HAVE READ THAT IF YOU'RE APPROVED TONIGHT AND THE METHOD TESTING ARE NOT SPELLED OUT VERY WELL.

AND IN FACT THERE ARE EVEN PROVISIONS IN THERE TO DO, EXCUSE ME, IF YOU APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT, THEN YOU BIND IN YOURSELF TO ASSIST THE SOLID

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WASTE AUTHORITY AND GETTING APPROVAL FROM THE DEM TO DO AWAY WITH THE STAMPING AND THE TESTING AT THE BK.

IF YOU WILL BE ACCEPTED, THERE'S A QUESTION ALSO ABOUT THE PAIN.

IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THE CITIZENS OF THE REST OF THE COUNTY WILL BE TREATED KIND OF UNFAIR IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE THE CITY RESIDENTS WILL BENEFIT FROM THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT HERE, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO NOT ONLY CHARGE THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY, THE GOING RATE FOR ALAMO CITY SOURCE , BUT YOU ALSO COME BACK AND THEY WILL GIVE YOU A CREDIT FOR 15,000 TONS OF CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION TO AGREE.

AND THAT'LL BE CONVERTED INTO MONEY AT THE GOING RATE FOR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF THIS, THE INDEED MATERIAL, THAT'D BE QUITE A LOT OF MONEY.

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE THIS SUPPORT TO THE AGREEMENT AS A CREDIT AGAINST YOUR TIPPING FEES FOR THE GARBAGE AND THE STUFF THAT YOU SEND UP IN A LANDFILL.

THIS, THIS IS A GREAT BONUS FOR YOU AND YOUR CITIZENS THAT DON'T APPLY TO THE REST OF US IN THE COUNTY.

AND FOR THAT MATTER, THE BANK ACCOUNT CARD, WE'RE TAKING THEIR TRASH, BARING IT OUT HERE IN THE HAIR, THE RAIN WATERS GO DOWN THROUGH IT AND WE PAY THESE ENORMOUS PHONES FOR THE TRACKING TRUCK, ALL THIS STUFF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT CHERRY POINT TO FAYETTEVILLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRYSIDE.

THOSE TRUCKS, I NEED TO GET SIX MILES TO THE GALLON GAS.

SO WHERE ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THE CITY TAKE FROM ATLANTA FIELD ON THEIR DISAGREEMENTS, OUT TO AN INDUSTRIAL PARK AND PUT IT IN THEIR GUMS. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TELL WHETHER WE'RE GETTING DETAINED FROM THE FIELD OR THEY TAKE FROM SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES, THIS INDUSTRIAL CAR? I DON'T THINK THEY BUILT SOME SPECIAL, THE GUNS OUT PRACTICE FOR THIS WEEKEND.

I WISH.

AND I RECOMMEND THAT YOU PUT THIS THING ON HOLD AND APPLYING THE CITIZENS COMMITTED TO LOOK INTO IT, LOOK INTO, UH, ALMOST CAN GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL BE A SERIOUS ISSUE IN THE NEXT ELECTION.

I DON'T SEE HOW I CAN HELP TO BE WHEN IT, SO FLAGRANTLY VIOLATES THE VOTERS TRUST AND OUR PILLAR BEING ABLE TO COMMENT ANYONE ELSE ON THEIR REQUEST, A PETITION TO CITIZENS.

MY NAME IS .

OH, JIM, EXCUSE ME.

ONE SEC.

LET US GET MR. METAL STRAIGHT.

FIRST.

THAT WAY YOU WON'T BE INTERRUPTED AGAIN.

I WAS TOLD THAT DADDY WOULD NOT BE AND JOAN BOY MR. FORD, MR. FORD, MR. FORD, IF, IF YOU WILL CONTINUE ON THE STATEMENT, WE'RE NOT GONE.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO QUESTION IF IT'S WORTH THIS TO THAT.

IF YOU CONTINUE TO STAY AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON.

ALL RIGHT.

OR INSPECTING HOMES THAT HAS BEEN HOME.

THAT I'M GOOD.

AND YOU SEE IT CAME UP THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A GIRL IN THE MIDDLE OF A SPAN OF 16.

WHEN THE MEETING THAT YOU HAVE

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900%, ALL THE SONGS, ALL THE SONG.

DAMN, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN, THEY WERE SAYING HE KNEW THEM ON FOUR NOW.

OKAY.

WHERE YOU SWEAR DOMINO DOWN HERE TOO, BUT THIS IS A NEW, HAVE NOT TOLD YOU CITIZEN ABOUT 2 0 3 .

OKAY.

THEY'RE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE NO GRAND PLAN.

AND TO ME, ON ONE AREA.

AND UNTIL WE GO INTO THE NEGATIVE 50 AN HOUR FOR THE QUARTER, AND OUR TOWN, OUR TOWN SAID THAT TOOL THREE ADD TOOLS IS FLEXIBLE.

TO MOVE TO PARTICULARLY THE NEXT OR THAT THE PROBLEM THAT I'M TRYING TO DEVELOP, AND IT CAME TO GET IT OUT OF CONTEXT.

YOU CAN'T READ AND YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.

OVER ERROR, ERROR, ERROR WAS NOT IN WHAT WAS BEING DEVELOPED AT FROM PERIOD THROUGH URBAN RENEWAL AND NEW THREE YEARS.

I CAN UNDERSTAND MR. FOY.

YES, SIR.

DO YOU TRUST ME? YEAH, YOU'VE DONE BUSINESS WITH ME.

HOW MUCH YOU HAVE DONE BUSINESS WITH ME IN THE PAST? YOU, YOU HAVE DONE.

HAVE YOU EVER DONE ANY BUSINESS WITH ME? AND DO YOU TRUST ME? DO YOU TRUST ME? WELL, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THIS YEAR I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD SINCE 1986 AND IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, THE CITY OF NEW BERN HAS APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY $4 MILLION IN AN URBAN DEVELOPMENT ACTION GRANT.

I'M SORRY, NOT URBAN DEVELOPMENT ACTION GRANTS, BUT IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS, NOT TO FIX UP HOMES, BUT THE WAY THEY DID THAT IS FIRST OF ALL, THEY CAME UP WITH AN IDEA TO A FIX UP HOMES IN A SPECIFIC AREA.

YOU HAVE TO LIKE FILL OUT AN APPLICATION AND THEN YOUR APPLICATION IS EITHER APPROVED OR REJECTED BASED UPON HOW HIGH YOU SCORE.

AND I GUESS, WHATEVER FEDERAL ENTITY THAT CONSIDERED THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A WORTHY PROJECT.

AND SEE, WE ARE COMPETING WITH CITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, BUT WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN OBTAINING ABOUT $4 MILLION IN GRANTS.

AND ALL OF THAT WENT TO BENEFIT MY DISTRICT AND IT WENT TO BENEFIT FIRST, SECOND, THIRD AVENUE, MILLER STREET, UH, AND PEMBRO.

AND IT'S ALL IN THE MINORITY DISTRICT.

AND THE ONLY REASON WHY THERE ARE NO GRANTS AVAILABLE FOR YOUR HOUSE IS NUMBER ONE.

YOU HAVE TO GET THAT FROM, UH, AN ENTITY THAT'S INTERESTED IN, IN SAVING HISTORICAL SITES.

YOU, YOUR, YOUR HOUSES ARE HISTORICAL, I BELIEVE IS THAT RIGHT? BUT, BUT SEE, SO YOU HAVE TO PLAN FOR THAT AND SEE, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY, ANY, UH, APPLICATIONS, UH, IN PROCESS, YOU KNOW, TO FIX YOUR DWELL.

AND THAT'S WHAT, SEE IF YOU SPEND EXISTING GRANT MONEY FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT, THAT WOULD MAKE YOU DISQUALIFY FROM ANY FUTURE GRANTS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO, TO USE THE GRANT FOR THE, FOR THE REASONS

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YOU STATED YOU WERE GOING TO USE IT FOR.

BUT IF YOU DEVIATE FROM THAT, THEN YOU, YOU WON'T BE ELIGIBLE FOR ANY MORE FUNDING.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE ARE ANY GRANT MONIES FOR YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOUR HOUSES RATHER, BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE APPLY FOR ANY AND THE EXISTING GRASS THAT WE DO HAVE, WE MADE A COMMITMENT AND A PROMISE TO THE PEOPLE WHO GAVE US THE MONEY THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE USING, USING THE MONEY FOR THE REASONS SET FORTH IN THE GRANT.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE AREN'T ANY, ANY MONIES AVAILABLE FOR YOU NOW FOR DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT, THEY HAVE, WHAT'S CALLED A KELLER AND KELLENBERGER FOUNDATION, BUT THEY MOSTLY MAKE, UH, GRANTS TO, UH, TO THINK THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, INVOLVED WITH HISTORICAL MATTERS.

BUT SEE, YOU HAVE TO GO BEFORE THAT BOARD AND APPLY TO RECEIVE GRANTS UNDER KELLENBERGER FOUNDATION.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, UM, WE GOT THREE MINORITY MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD AND, UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO, UH, DO ANYTHING TO, UM, TO, TO, UH, MAKE A CERTAIN GROUP, HAVE, UH, A HIGHER PLAYING FIELD OVER ANOTHER, BUT WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE TREATED FAIR.

AND, UH, JUST FOR ME, KNOWING, YOU KNOW, THE MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD AND KNOWING THAT THE NON-MINORITY MEMBERS, EVERYBODY, WE TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT ON THE WHOLE, THE WRONG THING IN YOUR HAND.

NOW, I CAN'T SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT YOU GOT ON AVENUE OR I CAN'T GET THEM.

AND YET THEY ALL USE LET'S LET'S BEFORE I, UH, I DON'T SEE ANYONE HERE, THAT'S EATING IN FRONT OF THE INSPECTION DEPARTMENT, MR. AVRIL, NOR MR. JOHNNY CLARK.

AND I SAID, I DON'T HAVE, THERE'S NO ONE HERE THIS EVENING FROM THE INSPECTION DEPARTMENT.

AND I WISHED THERE WAS A BIG, BECAUSE WHAT'S WHAT YOU'RE STATING IS THAT YOU SAY YOU'VE BEEN MISTREATED AND YOU'RE NOT GIVEN A FAIR CHANCE AT DOING YOUR REMODELING.

AND WE, AS A BOARD ARE NOT INSPECTORS AND WE'RE NOT THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.

SO WE CAN'T REALLY, UH, SAY, YOU ARE SAY, YOU'RE NOT, BUT I, BUT I DO KNOW.

AND YOU'RE OH, ONE OF YOUR STATEMENTS, YOU SAID THAT THE OLD HOMES HAVE SOME TYPE OF FRAMING, WHEREAS NOW THEY, THEY IT'S DIFFERENT.

AND BECAUSE THE CODES CHANGE, THOSE THINGS COME INTO EFFECT.

WHEN YOU GET READY TO BRING A OLD HOME, UP TO STANDARDS, THE HOME I WAS IN, WHEN I FIRST MOVED IN TO RAMALLAH, THEY WILL JUST STAND IN THAT COULDN'T BE LEFT.

WE HAD TO BRING CERTAIN THINGS UP TO STANDARD TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MET THE CITY CODES.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN HOLD AGAINST THE PLAN DEPARTMENT, IF THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEN THE OTHER THING IS THERE IS NO MONEY BEING SPENT DOWNTOWN TO, TO DO SOMETHING JUST FOR AN AREA THAT THE MONEY I GOT WRONG.

WELL, THE, THE MONIES, THE MONIES, THE MONIES THAT WERE SPENT FENCES HERE ON MIDDLE STREET, THAT WAS A PART OF THE EXTRA TAXES THAT THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN TAXED THEMSELVES TO HELP PAY FOR IT.

THE OTHER THING THAT WAS DONE WITH THAT WAS THE CITY PAID HALF OF IT, BUT IT WAS DONE THROUGH UTILITIES, SOMETHING THAT HAD TO BE DONE ANYWAY.

NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO HOMES, UH, ALL MARINA SAID THOSE GRANTS ARE BEING DONE THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND APPLYING FOR THOSE GRANTS.

AND IF MONEY'S AVAILABLE, THEN IT CAN BE DONE TO SPECIFY CERTAIN HOMES.

THE OTHER CATCH WITH THAT IS THERE'S A LIST RIGHT NOW IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OF PEOPLE ON THE WAITING LIST TO HAVE THEIR HOMES DONE.

BUT THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE HOME THAT NEED THE WORK DONE BECAUSE THEY ARE LIVING THERE AND IT COULD BE HAZARDOUS FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO LIVE THERE.

IF THE HOMES ARE NOT REPAIR.

SO I DON'T.

AND, AND PLEASE, MS. FORD DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE HAVING ANYTHING AGAINST YOU OR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS AGAINST YOU.

THEY'RE JUST CERTAIN RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT HAVE TO FOLLOW AND YOU, AND I'VE TAUGHT.

AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE, WE CAN HELP YOU SAVE THOSE THREE HOMES.

MR. FORD, I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE.

BUT WHEN YOU START COMPARING YOUR HOMES TO SOME OF THOSE THAT PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN, THEN THE ONES THAT THE PEOPLE LIVING IN ARE GOING TO COME

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FIRST.

THAT'S, THAT'S USUALLY THE CASE.

THAT'S FINE.

FORGET ABOUT YOUR BRAND.

COME HOME ON THE 17TH OF JULY.

OTHER MAIL IN TOWN THAT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE AND YOU WOULD TAKE IN RESPOND AS WELL.

WRITTEN MAIL WORKS ON TO .

IN THE MEANTIME, IT CAN BE REVEALED TO REMOLD.

THE NEW HOUSE COULD BE FOUND ON YOU.

NOW, IN THE MEANTIME, THE ONLY THING WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HELP TO GET THE MONEY.

OKAY, MR. FORD, IF I'M NOT, AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE 2 0 3 K THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND YOU SAID THE MAYOR WENT TO THAT MEETING YOU ALL.

OKAY.

UM, AND I'LL BE HONEST.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS.

AND I'M SORRY THAT THE STAFF IS NOT HERE TO GIVE US AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT THE TWO OR THREE K YEARS.

BUT LET ME ASK YOU ONE QUESTION WITH THE 2 0 3 KATE, DO YOU APPLY A DUDE? OH, DOES CITI APPLY FOR YOU? BECAUSE HE, IF YOU APPLIED, THEN IT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS.

IT'S JUST AVAILABLE AND IT'S THERE.

IF THE TWO OR 3 MILLION THAT YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T CONTROL YOUR MONEY CONTROL, BUT HAVE YOU APPLIED FOR IT YET? I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT RESEARCH FOR INNER SOLDIER THAT FALL IN ANY MALL, SYLLABLE AND, AND SPANISH, BUT IT WAS FOR, I JUST, I JUST ASKED THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE TWO OR THREE K AND THEY'RE NOT UP TO DATE ON IT.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, BUT WELL, TOMORROW I'LL KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE DONE THEIR JOB.

PLEASE DO, OH, THIS THING THAT I FOUND OUT WITH THEM, MR. PAUL, WE REFUSE YOU ANY MONEY, MR. FORD, BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU HAVEN'T APPLIED FOR ANY MONEY YET.

SO I CAN'T REALLY REFUSE YOU, MR. FOR, I THINK IT WAS A MALE CAN TELL YOU HOW, HOW MANY TIMES MR. FORD, MR. FORD.

I DO THIS.

I'LL DO THIS, MR. FORD PERSONALLY, BECAUSE I AM, I'LL BE HONEST.

I HAVE NOT FOR ME.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WITH ME WITH A TWO OR THREE K, BUT TOMORROW YOU WOULD PERSONALLY HEAR FROM ME AFTER I FIND OUT WHAT THE 2 0 3 K IS.

YOU WILL HEAR FROM ME PERSONALLY.

I WILL COME KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR.

CAUSE I I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS, MR. BLOG.

AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'LL HELP BENEFIT YOU, THEN I THINK, I THINK WE CAN FIND A WAY TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO GET YOU SOME MONEY, THE STREETS WITH NOTHING FOR ME, I'M TRYING TO DO A LITTLE BAIT.

SO MOM, PEOPLE CAN BE A NUBER .

I AM NOT NOTHING, BUT WHEN I GET SOME THAT I TOOK AND FILE AND TOOK AND SAVED THE REAL PRODUCTS.

90 TO 10 COWARD YES, SIR.

THERE AND SAME HERE.

THANK YOU, MR. FORD.

I LIKE TO, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER MEN, BUT I LIKE TO APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND CONTINUE TO TRY TO GET THIS DONE.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF I FIND OUT WHAT THE TWO OR THREE K IS

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TOMORROW, YOU WILL SEE ME MR. FORD.

THAT'S IT FOR THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HAD HAD THAT HAS PROBABLY NOT BREACHED US YET.

MA'AM DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TWO OR THREE? K THAT'S A FOUR.

I WISH YOU HAD A BROUGHT UP EARLIER THEN WE COULD'VE NAMED FLEAS AND ADDRESS.

YEAH.

TEMPORARY DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING INSPECTIONS FOR REMEMBERING.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 2 0 3 K IS AN LOAN PROGRAM.

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. FLOYD WOULD BE TO APPLY TO A BANK.

I DO ENCOURAGE HIM AS YOU, SO KIND OF TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT HE CAN TO MAXIMIZE HIS POTENTIAL.

OKAY.

2 0 3 CAKE COMES THROUGH THE BANK AND NOT THROUGH THE CITY.

UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE, AS YOU HAVE INDICATED, A FURTHER EXPLORATION OF THIS MATTER.

THANK YOU.

ZADEN ONE ELSE UNDER REQUEST PETITION ASSISTANCE.

YES, SIR.

WHY DON'T YOU RUB IT ON THE TRAIN AND UH, I'M A CITIZEN, MARTIN, CHRIS, AGAIN, BACK TO THE BORDER.

AND FOR CHRIS, REALLY MICHELLE TO REVEAL WHAT CHOP MY WORK IN THIS, THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA HAS SAY WORK, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU CAN DO, BUT I DO HAVE A HOME BOAT AND THE FACT IT KEPT COMING AND I'M NOT ABLE TO DRIVE THE COST ADDED ON AFTER MY FIRST OFFENSE IN COURT, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE FIRST CRITICAL POINTS THERE AND BE THERE FOR SOMEONE OR SOME PERSON HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF A FELONY.

THEY ADMITTED LU UH, PERMISSION TO WORK FOR ME.

BUT WHEN I COME TO THE BOARD AT NINE AT THREE AFRICAN COURT AND SO CASE AND EVERYTHING, I COME INTO THE BOARD AND I DID HAVE WHERE SOME DON'T ALLOW THEM TO GO TO WORK.

YOU WATCH FOR WHAT YOU EVER SEE, WHAT KIND OF PERSON ON THE TURN TO BE ON PRIOR TO THE TRUCK AND MY UNDERSTANDING Y'ALL HAD TO GO BACK AND WAIT TO SEE ABOUT COMMIT FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS.

THEN I THINK SOMEWHERE IN, AT A TIME THAT I RECEIVE ON PROBATION, THE LAW CHANGED THAT WHO HAD TO GO BACK DOWNTOWN TO FILL OUT APPLICATION NOW TO GET A PERMIT.

AND THEY'LL JUST BE VIEWING YOUR LACK OF WOUND BEFORE.

SO THEN IF I WENT OUT OF TOWN AND TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION FOR A PERMIT, THEN MY FELONY WOULD SHOW.

IF I'M SAYING, IF Y'ALL DID MONDAY, IT WAS ALL GOING TO OMAR.

AND Y'ALL THE ABOUT TWO YEARS.

I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING SINCE THEN FOR YOU TO REVOKE MY PERMIT.

AND I DON'T WANT TO APPLY NOW THAT THEY COME ON THE JOB AND COST OF THIS NEW LAW, CHANGE OUT.

Y'ALL PUT ME ON PROBATION THAT IT COULDN'T BE FOR WORKING IN THE MEANTIME WHILE I'VE BEEN OUT FOR A YEAR, I LOST MY HOME.

ALL I WAS ABOUT TO GO TO JAIL.

I GOT TO MONDAY MORNING TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF SYDNEY, WHICH I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK.

I THINK ONE TIME I FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT, WHAT I TOOK FOR GRANTED, I STAYED WITH GOING TO WORK.

AND I TOOK THIS BACK TO THE COURT AND THE COURT ALLOWED ME TO STAY OUT UNTIL THE PROPER TIME WE CAN GO BACK TO WORK, COME BACK AGAIN.

NIGHT THE LAW HAD CHANGED AND Y'ALL HAD CHANGED IT BACK.

SO NOW THEY GIVE ME TO THE 19TH TO COMEBACK, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY APPOINTED WELL AT HOME, HAVE A LAWYER RIGHT NOW, TRY TO GET IT BACK AND FORTH.

AND I'M WISH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE ANY REQUESTS IN DALHART, AGAIN, TO NOT BE GOING UP PROBATION, PERIOD, LIKE A DEAL ONCE BEFORE SOMEONE ON THIS BOARD, SOMEWHERE, MAYBE AWAY.

BUT I DID Y'ALL THAT WOULD HIT ME THERE NO MORE TROUBLE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK DOWNTOWN FOR NO

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PROBLEM WHATSOEVER.

I'M NOT THROUGH LIKE, IF Y'ALL WOULD GIVE HIM ANOTHER CHANCE, I'D BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME, BUT NO MORE TRYING TO KEEP MY HOME, MY DESK GUY.

AND I JUST WON'T WORK.

AND I CAN'T WORK WITH Y'ALL TURN OFF, OFF IN MY FAITH.

AND YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHARACTER THAT WHEN THEY WOULD COME TO THE BOARD TO VIEW THEIR, YOU KNOW, TICKETS OR WHATEVER TICKET, NOW YOU HAVE TO GET UP FROM IT.

SO I'M GOING TO KNOW IF THE BOY HAD I'M NOT EVEN ASKING YOU TO GIVE HER A JOB AS A, FOR THE ONE.

I JUST WANT TO WORK.

AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 31 YEARS.

I HAD THE COWS.

IF I GET TO MY CAR, I CAN'T WORK.

I DON'T WANT NO HAND OUT THIS, THE POWER TO LET HIM GO TO JAIL, WHATEVER Y'ALL GOT TO DO, BECAUSE TRULY MONDAY THE 19 NINE, GO BACK TO COOL, COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO RESTORE TO THE WOMAN, BUT WHAT SHE DOES IS NOT CRUCIFIED.

AND HE SAYS I WILL NOT MESS UP.

WE'RE NOT TURNING.

OKAY.

UH, MR. TURNS OUT, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, CAUSE IT'S BEEN A WHILE NOW WHERE WE WERE ON YOUR CASE, BUT I DO REMEMBER IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU, SENDING YOU CERTIFIED LETTERS.

UH, CHIEF, AM I CORRECT ON THAT? I BELIEVE IT'S A FRANCHISE AND HE'S BEEN TAKING CARE OF THE FRANCHISE AND SHE KNOWS ABOUT UPSTAIRS.

MS. LEE.

OKAY.

I REMEMBER LAST TIME IT WAS NOT, ESPECIALLY A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IT WAS NOT TO NECESSARILY BE THE AIR.

IF WE PUT IT WRITINGS THAT TOURISTS BE GIVEN TIME TO FILL US AT A WORK SESSION WHERE WE COULD SIT AROUND.

AND IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT SITUATION TO DISCUSS, RESOLVE PROBLEM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO SEE IF THAT WORKS, RATHER THAN OPEN THE FORUM, LIKE THINGS THAT WERE SAID TO US, THE WORK SESSION, MAYBE WE SIT AROUND A TABLE, WE CAN GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON, WHY YOU WOULD NOT BE OKAY IF YOU MAY WANT TO WORK SESSION TO COME WITH US AND JUST BLOCK OFF TIME TO ABOUT THE NEXT WORK SESSION, MR. TURN.

IT IS MONDAY AND I'VE JUST SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND HE, HE CAN, HE HAS NO PROBLEM PUTTING YOU ON THE CALENDAR FOR MONDAY MORNING, FOR MONDAY EVENING.

OKAY.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT, CHIEF? WILL YOU BE OKAY? AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE'LL KNOW, WE'LL FIND OUT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHAT HAS BEEN TURNED IN AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE MONDAY SEVEN O'CLOCK SEVEN 30 WORK SESSION STARTS AT SEVEN 30.

STAY DOWNSTAIRS ON THE FIRST FLOOR CENTER THAT MORNING, MONDAY MORNING, MONDAY EVENING.

I'M SORRY.

MONDAY EVENING, MONDAY NIGHT, SEVEN 30.

OKAY.

MR. ATTORNEY DO, PLEASE TRY TO HAVE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND THE CHIEF WORKED OUT AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE SUBMITTED THE PROPER

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DOCUMENTS AND IT CAUSED THE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE ON THE VEHICLES AT THIS TIME, BUT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS.

AND IF WE CAN'T EVEN GET A CERTIFIED LETTER SENT TO YOU, IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ADDRESS WHERE WE CAN CONTACT YOU, I HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION AS I'VE TRIED TO HELP YOU, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO HELP.

YOU GOT TO WORK WITH US.

AND I HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION AS TO WHETHER WE SHOULD ISSUE A PACK, A CAMP PERMIT TO SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T EVEN HAVE AN ADDRESS WHERE WE FIND THEM.

IF WE NEEDED THEM, 360 7, BUT THE CERTIFIED, I SENT IT TO 8 21, NEW MEXICANS, THAT TOP OF THAT, THEN SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT CLEAR ALL THIS UP FOR THE CHIEF BEFORE THAT MEETING.

SO WE KNOW THAT'S ALL SPRAYING BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

IF YOU DON'T DO THE BASIC PAPERWORK.

SO WE KNOW HOW TO CONTACT YOU, THAT YOU DO HAVE INSURANCE, THAT THE VEHICLE IS SAFE.

THAT SORT OF THING.

WE NEED THAT TO CLEAR IT UP AND OUT OF THE WAY BY THAT MEETING TIME.

OKAY.

WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO HELP ANYONE ELSE ON A REQUEST TO PETITIONER SYSTEM.

HAVE WE BEEN HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM ALL THE TIME? MR. NELSON, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

SERIOUSLY.

WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

WE HAVE MONEY ALLOCATED THIS YEAR, WORKING ON IT.

IT'S BEING WORKED ON I WENT TOO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BANKING ON.

I HOPE LET'S SAMSON.

I HOPE THAT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR SEAT ON THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

YOU CAN WORK FOR ADDING A SWIMMING POOL TO YOUR COUNTY RECREATION, COUNSELOR.

I REMEMBER IT.

REMEMBER THEY CITIZENS.

AND THERE WAS ALSO CITIZENS, A CRAVEN COUNTY.

OKAY.

THEY'RE CRAVING COUNTY CITIZENS TOO.

I PAY TAXES.

JUST LIKE ANYBODY OUT FOR PAY.

WE'LL BE IN A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ON A REQUEST PETITION OF CITIZENS? MY NAME IS MARTIN AND COVID FOR YOU TO SEE IN HOPES OF BEING BIG WITH ATTENTION.

HAS IT? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU TRAVELED AROUND THE COPS HE AREA, BUT THAT COP AND THE STREETS IS, UM, IF HE GETS, IF YOU WILL, IS A BUSH THAT BLOCKS ONCOMING TRAFFIC, AS YOU COME IN ONE WAY, YOU CAN NOT SEE WHAT'S COMING IN, UM, SYDNEY TO REQUEST A STOP OR A YIELD SIGN, BE PLACED IT SO THAT YOU CAN SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN AS IT'S COMING FROM ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER, BECAUSE YOUR KIDS ARE PLAYING IN SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SCHOOL BUSES COME THROUGH AND IT IS A SET DATE AND WATCH DAYTIME NIGHTTIME, BECAUSE COUPLE OF CLOCK SPEED SPEEDING OF IT.

I BELIEVE IT'S 25, 35, 40 MILES AN HOUR.

AND IF YOU'RE COMING OUT OF THE COLLEGE STREET, YOU CAN'T SEE THEM.

YOU CAN'T SEE THEM BECAUSE IT IS A PUSH IT.

AND IF EACH OF YOU AND MY LIFE, OTHER TIMES I'VE ALMOST BEEN IN ACCIDENTS AND THAT'S MY REQUEST, A STOP OR A YIELD SIGN.

YOU PLACE THE ONE, ONE OF THE CORNERS, EITHER CAR TO SPEED OR COST TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC TO YOUR NAME AGAIN, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, MR. MARTIN, I WAS, I WAS JUST YELLING TO MRS. LEE, BECAUSE THAT IS HER WARD.

AND ALSO, UH, THE INFORMATION WOULD ALSO BE TAKEN BY MR. DANNY METALS, THE GENTLEMAN BEHIND YOU, UM, MS. LEE, UM, BUT, UM, WE WOULD MOST DEFINITELY LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHERE HE IS.

I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE JT.

BARBARA IS OKAY.

YOU CAN SPIT OUT A GMC BARBER ON COPS.

YOU PASS POWER.

I MEAN, YOU PASS AND AS YOU PUT IT OFF TO YOUR LEFT, BUSH RIGHT HERE.

SO YOU

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CAN'T SEE TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE LEFT.

NO, SIR.

THERE'S A YIELD SIGN DOWN BY THE SCHOOL, BUT ONE PARTICULAR FARM THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THERE ARE NO SIGNS.

I CAN HELP YOU WITH OVER I'M BARBARA AND, AND BECAUSE, AND BECAUSE MS. LEE BROUGHT THAT OUT, LET ME SHARE SOMETHING WITH, WITH THOSE HERE AND THOSE THAT ARE PROBABLY WATCHING SOME TV A LOT OF TIMES.

AND I FOUND THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME AND SOME OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TOO, IS THAT A LOT OF TIMES YOU CAN GET A FEW THINGS DONE AND GETTING KNOWLEDGE OF CERTAIN THINGS.

IF YOU JUST CALL YOUR ALDERMAN WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO THE BOARD MEETINGS, ALL OF US ARE ACCESSIBLE.

IF YOU CANNOT US AT HOME, YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL CITY HALL, GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY CLERK OR THE CITY MANAGER THEY WOULD IN TURN, GET IN TOUCH WITH US.

AND WE WERE IN TURN.

GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU.

A LOT OF TIMES IT WOULD SAVE YOU TIME AND TRAVEL TO COME HERE, TO TALK TO US ABOUT THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF WITH JUST A PHONE CALL, MR. MARTIN, YOU DID THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHO TO CONTACT, BUT NOW YOU KNOW THAT MS. BARBARA LEE IS Y'ALL ALL THE WOMAN AND MR. AND ALL MARINA HAS GIVEN YOU ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.

HE'S MY CLIENT.

BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT REALLY THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SHARED THAT CAN BE DONE.

IF YOU JUST GIVE US A PHONE CALL AND LET US COME OUT AND VISIT WITHOUT YOU HAVING TO COME DOWN HERE AND USE YOUR TIME TO TRAVEL.

ANYONE ELSE UNREQUESTED PETITION OF CITIZENS.

IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT ORDINANCE FIRST READING TO CONSIDER CABLE TV FRANCHISE.

AND WE'RE LIKE, OH, MR. HARRIS IS GOING TO COME IN AND GIVE US A SYNOPSIS.

OKAY.

I'LL SEND THAT.

MR. MAYOR PRO TEM AND BOARD MEMBERS, UH, I'M DAVID HARRIS, I'M VICE PRESIDENT COMMUNICATIONS, CUSTOMER COMMUNICATIONS HAS A CONTRACT.

YOU CAN NEGOTIATE AGREEMENT AND THAT CABLE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF NEW BERN AND MULTIMEDIA.

AND BEFORE I TO SAY A SPECIAL THANKS TO MR BOARD OR HIS ASSISTANCE IN NEGOTIATING PREPARING THIS DOCUMENT JUST BEFORE, EVEN THE CT, UH, ONE THAT YOU HAD THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO YOU EARLIER IS BASICALLY NOT CHANGED CONCEPTUALLY, UH, THERE'S A FORMAT CHANGE, UH, BUT I'LL GO OVER THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT IN GENERAL TERMS. THEN I'LL ASK YOU ABOUT MR. GROSS SMEARS, WHO IS, WHO IS HERE FROM MEDIA OVER TO REBUILD SCHEDULE, AND AT ANY TIME MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, THE CABLE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT IS BEFORE HE WAS A NONEXCLUSIVE, UH, CABLE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.

UH, THAT MEANS THAT ANY OTHER CABLE OPERATOR MAY APPLY FOR A FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS UNDER THE GENERAL TERMS OF THIS FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.

UH, THIS AGREEMENT FOR YOU IS FOR A TERM OF 15 YEARS PROVISION FOR A FIVE YEAR EXTENSION.

IF THE BOARD APPROPRIATELY THE AGREEMENT IS, UH, IS GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE UPON ACCEPTANCE BY MULTIMEDIA.

AND I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE PROVISIONS WITHIN THIS FRANCHISE AGREEMENT OR A PERFORMANCE EVALUATION AT ANY TIME THAT YOU, THAT YOU THINK FIT.

UH, THE AGREEMENT PROVIDES FOR THE CONSENT BY THE BOARD IN THE EVENT OF A SALE OR TRANSFER OF MULTIMEDIA.

AND SO THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT ANY NEW BUYER AND APPROVE BASED ON THEIR ABILITY TO PERFORM, UH, TECHNICALLY FINANCIALLY,

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UH, UNDER THE TERMS OF THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.

THERE ARE RELEGATION RENTAL LOCATION PROCEDURES WITHIN THE AGREEMENT, AND THERE'S SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT ARE SET THAT YOU MAY RECALL WITH THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.

WE HAVE SET CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS.

I TALKED ABOUT A PERFORMANCE REVIEW OR PERFORMANCE BOND, AND $1 MILLION OF INSURANCE WITH BOTH THE FACILITY EARNINGS AND THE CITY HAS ALSO THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL ON THE SALE OF THE NEWBURN CABLE SYSTEM.

SHOULD IT BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY UNDER THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, ALL GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE FURNISHED AT NO COST THAT CABLE OUTLET AND YOUR FREE CABLE SERVICE.

WE HAVE ONLINE THAT APPENDIX A CUSTOMER SERVICE STANDARDS.

SO THERE'S NO DOUBT IN ANYONE'S MIND.

THE CABLE OPERATORS SUPPOSED TO DO ON THE NUMBER OF TELEPHONE RINGS WAS SUPPOSED TO DO ON INSTALLATION.

AND THEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THEY'RE OUTLINED TO PENDING SAY, THE CITY WILL RECEIVE A 5% RANGE FEE.

A MULTIMEDIA WILL PROVIDE CABLE SERVICES TO ALL INCORPORATED AREAS OF THE CITY AND ANY NEWLY ANNEXED AREAS WHERE THE DENSITY OF 20 HOMES PER MILE AT 20 HOMES PER MILE MUST BE REACHED.

LIVING IN MULTIMEDIA MUST PROVIDE CABLE SERVICE.

WITHIN SIX MONTHS.

THERE IS A PROVISION WITHIN THE FRANCHISE.

20 HOMES PER MILE IS NOT GREAT.

HERE'S A COST SHARE SO THAT IF THERE IS ONLY 10 HOMES PER MILE, A CABLE OPERATOR PAYS FOR HALF, AND THERE'S SOME COST SHARE BY THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, GO AHEAD AND FILE.

WHEN YOU SAY THAT IT'S ONLY 10 HOMES, THEN THE CABLE, THE PERSON THAT PURCHASES, THE CABLE PAYS HALF THE COST, 10 WITHIN 10 HOMES PER MILE.

AND THAT IF THERE ARE 10 HOMES, FOR INSTANCE, AND ONE HALF OF THE COST IS SHARED BY THOSE 10 HOMES, THEN WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR, THERE ARE SAY, FIVE HOMES BUILT.

THEN THOSE FIVE HOMES SHARE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THE COST AND COST OR REFUND TO THE 10 ROOMS. OKAY.

SO AT THE TIME WE GET THE 20 HOMES, THEN REFUNDS GO BACK TO THAT.

THAT'S WHAT DID I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, UPGRADED THE SYSTEM.

THE UPGRADE OF THE SYSTEM WILL BE COMPLETED USING THE STATE OF ART TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS A FIBER ON THE FEET USING FIVE ROUTE THE CABLE BE COMPLETED WITHIN 18 MONTHS.

AND, UH, I'LL LET, UH, THE CABLE OPERATOR DISCUSS THE SPECIFICS, BUT BASICALLY IT WILL GO TO THE 100 CHANNEL CAPACITY.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL CHANNELS.

UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S 10 CHANNELS WILL BE ADDED TO THE, UM, TO THE CHANNEL LINER AND EIGHT ADDITIONAL CHANNELS WE ADDED WITHIN FIVE YEARS, THERE'S PROVISION FOR OUR COMMUNITY ACCESS CHANNEL.

AND LET ME JUST STOP FOR A MINUTE AND TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY ACCESS.

HOW YOU'RE OPERATING RIGHT NOW IS THROUGH A, UH, A LOCAL CHANNEL CHANNEL 10.

IT WAS FILMING HERE AND SEEDING WHO BASICALLY PROVIDES, UH, TO THE SCHOOLS, UH, SCHOOL CLOSINGS, UH, COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS. AND THEN ALSO HAS A COMMERCIAL OPERATION THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT LOCAL ORIGINATION CHANNEL.

AND RIGHT NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THE CABLE OPERATOR.

THAT CHANNEL OPERATOR IS FURNISHING ALL THE COMMUNITY ACCESS AT NO COST, EXCEPT FOR SOME, UM, UH, SOME COSTS, UH, TO A VIDEO, THE, UH, BOARD MEETINGS WITHIN THE PROVISIONS OF THIS FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.

AS BEFORE YOU, THE DRY, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE ITS OWN CHANNEL MAY HAVE A CHARACTER GENERATOR, WHICH IS A COMPUTER, WHICH DOES A BULLETIN BOARD AND PUTS THE LITTLE TICKER TAPE ACROSS THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN WITH ALL THE CITY HAS TO DO IS TO NOTIFY THE CABLE OPERATOR AND 120 DAYS LATER WITHIN THAT 220 DAYS, THE CABLE OPERATOR WILL ISSUE A CHARACTER GENERATOR.

WE'LL FURNISH YOU THE HOOK UP SOMEPLACE IN THE CITY THAT YOU DESIGNATE IN THE HEAD END OR CABLE OFF THE COMPANY.

AND THEN YOU WILL BE THE ONE WHO RUNS THAT COMMUNITY ACCESS CHANNEL.

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UH, I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

I'M GOING TO LAY OUT LAY TERMS, THE OPTIONS FOR, FOR THE CITY, UH, AND PROVIDE THAT FOR HIM LATER ON THE STREET SO THAT HE CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ALL OF THE OPTIONS ARE FOR THAT COMMUNITY ACCESS, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU CONTINUE THE CURRENT UP DURATION AND MAY WANT TO CONSIDER AN INFORMAL AGREEMENT WITH CHANNEL 10 SO THAT YOU HAVE SOME ASSURANCES THAT WHEN YOU SEND MESSAGES THERE TO BE POSTED TO THE PUBLIC, THAT THEY WILL BE CLOSED IN A TIME.

OH, YOU SAYING THAT IF WE ASK FOR IT, THE PACIFIC'S CHANNEL WILL BE, THERE THERE'LL BE A COST TO US.

THERE'S, THERE'S NO COST TO YOU AS A COMMUNITY ACCESS CHANNEL.

AND THAT CHANNEL WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY TO BE OPERATED BY THE CITY AND CITY STAFF AND STAFF TIME, THE EQUIPMENT TO RUN THAT FROM A CITY HALL, THE CHARACTER GENERATOR WOULD BE PROVIDED BY THE CABLE OPERATOR THAT DON'T COST.

ALL WE HAVE IS LABOR COST.

AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IT, THAT'S A BIG CONSIDERATION BECAUSE NOW AT NO COST, YOU HAVE THE SAME THING.

SO IF THE RECREATION AND PARKS DEPARTMENT WANTS TO PUT A BULLETIN ON, OR WE HAVE SCHOOL CLOSINGS OR WHATEVER IT IS, THIS LOCAL ORIGINATION CHANNEL, WHAT'S IT ON FOR YOU? UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FORMALIZE THAT A LITTLE BIT, UH, THAT PROBABLY COULD BE DONE IN A SIDE LETTER OR AN INFORMAL AGREEMENT WITH THE LOCAL ORIGINATION STATION.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF YOUR OPTIONS YOU CAN CONTINUE ON.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE CONNECTED WITH THE REBUILD OF THE SYSTEM AND WHAT IS THE, OR AN INSTITUTIONAL NET AND AN INSTITUTIONAL NET IS A CLOSED FIBER OPTIC CABLE THAT GOES FROM WHEREVER YOU DESIGNATE TO GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS TO TRANSPORT, VIDEO DATA AND VOICE TRANSMISSIONS.

THIS IS A CLOSED CIRCUIT THAT WILL BE FURNISHED BY THE CABLE OPERATOR, AND IT WILL CONNECT AREAS, BUT REMEMBER IT HAS NO OUTLET, THE SWITCH, SO THAT CLOSE CIRCUIT BETWEEN YOUR LOCAL DESERT, AND THAT IS ALL THE PROVISION TO PROVIDE THAT IN HERE.

AND ALSO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AN EMERGENCY ACCESS RIGHT NOW.

THE CABLE OPERATOR IS NOTIFIED BY AN EMERGENCY BROADCAST OR PUT ON THE LOCAL ORIGINATION CHANNELS.

UM, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO RIGHT NOW, ALL OF YOUR BROADCAST CHANNELS PUT OUT A TWO TONE SIGNAL, AND THEN THEY PUT SOME TYPE OF A TICKER TAPE ACROSS THE BOTTOM OF THE, OF THE, OF THE CHANNELS.

IN 1997, THE CABLE CABLE SYSTEM WILL HAVE A VIDEO MESSAGE ON ALL CHANNELS, UH, LEARNING THE TECHNIQUES TO DO THE AREA IN CARE AND DEPTH SUBSCRIBERS AND AN AUDIO MESSAGE AND A VIDEO INTRODUCTION ON ALL CHANNELS.

SO IN 1997, A CABLE OPERATOR WILL BE THE ONE THAT WILL BE IN THE BUSINESS OF DOING EMERGENCY BROADCAST.

IN ADDITION TO REBUILD, UH, WE'LL BRING PAY-PER-VIEW, UH, BOLT RATE TO A SERVICE, A BULK RATE SERVICE TO NURSING HOMES.

UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, MOST OF THE MEDIA HAS AGREED TO THE TERMS OF THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT AS BEFORE YOU THAT FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU, UH, PAGE 26, THERE IS ONE MINOR CHANGE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE UNDER J SAID, THE GRANTEES SHALL MAINTAIN EQUIPMENT CAPABLE OF PROVIDING PORTABLE STANDBY POWER OR A MINIMUM.

IT'S NOW SAYS EIGHT HOURS.

AND THAT SHOULD SAY 24 HOURS.

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I AM YOUR G CONVERSE SECOND SENTENCE WHERE IT SAYS SUCH CONVERTER SHALL BE EQUAL TO, OR BETTER THAN IT'S AN ENTIRE SENTENCE SHOULD BE STRUCK, REFERS TO APPENDIX B AND C OR TWO AND SO FORTH AND ENTIRE SENTENCE .

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK I'M MR. BRUCE MARIS, WHO WAS THE REGIONAL MANAGER, UH, TO DISCUSS THE REBUILD SCHEDULE AND SOME OF THE FACETS OF THE RETAIL THAT THE SYSTEM LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION BEFORE YOU WITH THE NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE CHANNEL 19 CLEAR CHANNEL 20 19 20 21? I MEAN, HERE WE ARE GOING TO PUT A NEW TECHNOLOGY AND ALL WE CHANNEL OUT WOULD FALL ON CHANNEL NINE TEAM.

INDIA'S ALL IN THE SAME FREQUENCY WITH THE BIG BREWERS AT COSTCO.

WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY IN THOSE LOCATIONS AND BLEED OVER IN THE KIDNEY SYSTEM AND THEY'LL SHOW UP IN YOUR TVC.

IF IT'S REAL SEVERE, THOSE LADIES COULD BE CORRECT, BUT ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.

BUT, UH, UH, WE WILL ASK YOU A QUESTION IN THE SHORT TERM.

YEAH, WE READ BRUCE SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY.

I DON'T WANT A KUKA COME BACK TO IT.

UM, FIBER, THE FIBER OPTIC TECHNOLOGY, UH, ASSUMING VHS MEANS 400 SUPER VHS RATHER MEANS 425 PLUS LINES OF HORIZONTAL RESOLUTION, UH, WITH FIBER OPTIC, GIVE US SUPER VHS A PICTURE.

WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HOT, DEFINITELY HIGH DEFINITION IS THE HIGH RESOLUTION.

THAT'S ABOUT 11 OR 1200 LINES.

PLUS YOU GET A WIDER, A WIDER SCREEN RATIO, UH, TV TV SIGNAL LEAVES THE BACK OF THE CAMERA AT 425 LINES.

AND BY THE TIME IT GETS TO ME AND 10 OF THE TOP OF THE TOWER AS IT TRAVELS THROUGH OUT THE, UH, THE SYSTEM.

AND THE SAME THING IS TO THE SATELLITE.

THERE'S A LOSS IN RESOLUTION AT THAT POINT AS WELL.

THE PERFECT PICTURE.

WHY NOW IS NOT A HIGH DEFINITION.

PICTURE IS 425 MINUTES BEFORE AND 35 LINES RESOLUTION, 1100 LINES OF RESOLUTION.

UH, YOU, YOU WILL SEE CLEARER PICTURES.

THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

WHO WILL IT PASS? ASSUMING THEY'RE GOING TO ADOPT WHATEVER ALREADY ADOPTED DIGITAL TV.

AND I'M ASSUMING THAT TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO BE READILY AVAILABLE, BUT THEN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AND SINCE WE HAVE A 15 YEAR CONTRACT, WILL THAT SYDNEY BE PASSED ON WITH FIBER OPTIC? ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE OF THE FIVE ROCKET CAKE GIVES US THE CAPABILITY TO COLLABORATE EASILY WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK AND RETROFIT ALL OVER.

SO WE'RE TAKING CARE OF ALL THINGS.

OKAY.

AND SECONDLY, UM, I NOTICED A LOT OF TELEVISION HANDBALL FEATURES WHEREBY YOU CAN SEE, UH, SEVERAL CHANNELS AT ONE TIME.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A FIDGET, THAT'S MORE ADVANCED THAN PICTURE AND PICTURE.

YOU CAN SCAN LIKE FIVE OR DIFFERENT SPOTS OR SIX DIFFERENT CHANNELS.

SOME, SOME HAVE SEVEN AND EIGHT AND 13, BUT IF YOU HAVE A CONVERTER BOX, YOU CAN'T SCAN IT.

BUT IF A PERSON DIDN'T WANT TO WANT TO ORDER THE PAY-PER-VIEW CHANNELS LIKE HBO AND CINEMAX, CAN, CAN YOU CON WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO HOOK UP DIRECTLY TO THE TELEVISION IN AND SCAN THE, WHERE THEY CAN DO IT NOW? YEAH.

YEAH.

THEY CAN'T DO THAT.

ACTUALLY.

WHAT HAPPENS IS THE ELEVATORS ARE LIMITED IN THE NUMBER OF TEARS CONVERT.

CAUSE I GOT A PICTURE,

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BUT IT RELAX.

AND I KNOW HER PICTURE.

CAUSE YOU CAN ASK HER WHAT, THE, UH, FOLD TWO OLD AND YOU CAN USE YOU'LL FEEL CONVERTED.

I WANT YOU TO DO SOME LINES.

I DIDN'T KNOW.

YOU'RE A LITTLE BLANKET WHICH THE CITY RECEIVES UTILITIES LIKE THE CABLE COMPANY AND A CPN COMPANIES TO DO BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT IT DOES HELP TO THE FRONT OF IT.

BUT THAT'S IF THE ISSUE OF SUPPLY, BUT THE FRANCHISE SPACE SITUATION, DO YOU HAVE ANY PENSIONS GOING TO ALLOW THE TRANSMISSION IN INDIA, WIRELESS, UH, TRANSMIT THE SIGNAL FROM YOUR RECEIVER TO THE INDIVIDUAL RECEIVER IN THE HOME TO DO AWAY WITH CABLES AND ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT MS. BRENNER WAS JUST REFERRING TO, OR I THINK PROBABLY, UH, WILSON BIGGER THAN THE WIRELESS ENVIRONMENT, BECAUSE EVERY TV SET THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT BLOCK, ONLY, SO YOUR COST GOES UP EXPONENTIALLY WITH THE NUMBER OF OUTLETS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HERE.

WE HAD A GIMME MDS, WHICH IS A MULTI POINT MULTI CHANNEL DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

NONE OF THEM WAS THE PRECURSOR TO WIRELESS AND THERE'S A LOT LIKE THE BUSINESS BUSINESSES ARE AWFUL.

AND UH, WE FOUND THAT IT WASN'T A BUSINESS THAT, UH, WE COULD BE BETTER THAN IT IS NOW.

AND HONESTLY, I WAS GETTING BACK IN THAT BUSINESS.

NOW THAT DOESN'T ONE DAY, UH, 15 YEARS FRANCHISEE LIFE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT WON'T BE US.

WELL, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACT COVERED AND EVENTUAL REALITY OF THAT TYPE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT DIRECT TRANSMISSION, THE PRIOR STAR TYPE SITUATION, WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE PICKING UP THE SIGNAL, NOT TO A LOCAL CABLE COMPANY AT ALL IN ANY WAY, BUT FROM A SATELLITE, UH, THEIR, THEIR CITIES CANNOT ASSESS A FRANCHISE THE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE COVERED HERE.

SO THAT CABLE COMPANY COULDN'T COME UP SIX YEARS FROM NOW AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A DIRECT TRANSMISSION.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY A FRANCHISE FEE BECAUSE THAT HURTS IT.

UM, AND, UH, UH, AND ANYWAY, I THINK JUNE, THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT SAYS IF YOU COULD GET INTO ANY CABLE TELECOM, TELECOMMUNICATIONS, OKAY.

WHY BUSINESS AND THE CITY'S FINANCIAL INTERESTS DO THIS YES.

TO YOUR SATISFACTION AS WELL.

WELL, MAX, TO WHY, WHY ON THIS CABLE IS VERY, UH, HIGHLY AFFECTED BY WEATHER CONDITIONS.

YEAH.

I GUESS, LINE OF SIGHT TO ROBERT WELL, I HAD A COUPLE OF NOTES WRITTEN DOWN WITH Y'ALL.

WELL, WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE REBUILD PROCESS AND GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT.

WE'VE DONE THOSE NOW IN SEVERAL OTHER LOCATIONS.

AND, UH, UH, WE REBUILD AROUND 3000 MILES.

OKAY.

UH, SINCE 1992 FRANCHISE, SINCE 19, WE'VE GOT SOME EXPERIENCE IN DOING THIS IF WE DO BELIEVE WE BUILT THE EXISTING SYSTEM HERE

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IT WAS ALL THE INITIAL FEELING OF THE SYSTEM AND WORK WITH SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS IN THIS WARD, THE SYSTEM WAS BUILT WITH THE TECHNOLOGY THAT EXISTED IN 1978.

AND WE'VE DONE THESE THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE DIVISION 15 YEAR FRANCHISE, ENHANCED TECHNICAL CAPABILITIES OF THE SYSTEM.

THE SYSTEM IS BUILT WITH AN ARCHITECTURE THAT'S REFERRED TO THIS IS TREATED RANCH, ROUTE , UH , WHICH IS WHERE OUR HEADING IS LOCATED AND EVERYTHING EMANATES FROM THERE THROUGH TANGLES THAT, UH, THAT THE THEATER TELEVISION SETS AND BRAIN AND BRAIN, UH, TV RECEPTION TO THOSE HOUSEHOLDS.

NOW, THE CALLS ARE THAT ARCHITECTURE EVERYTHING'S FINISHED SEQUENCE, AND SOMEBODY GOES LONG UPSTREAM ALONG THE LINE.

AND ANYTHING SUBSEQUENT TO THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.

UH, IT IS NOT SIBLING BY ITS OWN DESIGN, THE MOST RELIABLE ARCHITECTURE.

THAT IS HOW LONG WAS THE ONLY ARCHITECTURE THAT WAS VIOLENT AT THAT TIME.

AND ACTUALLY THE, UH, FIGURE, UH, FIVE OR TWO, UH, IN THE SERVICE AREA ARCHITECTURE THAT MS. HARRIS CALLED VAL IS FAIRLY RECENTLY WITHIN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

THAT WAS WHAT WE PLAN TO DO.

AND YOU, WE WILL TAKE THE EXISTING SYSTEM AND DISSECT IT INTO APPROXIMATELY 50 INDEPENDENTLY OPERATING SYSTEMS. WE WILL LEAVE OUR OFFICE AND BRUNSWICK AVENUE WITH A SHEET OF FIBER OPTIC CABLES AT THE WHOLE ALTERNATELY UPON EVADE, SEVERAL STRANDS OF FIVE, EACH FIBER CABLE, THEN FEED A, UH, EVEN SERVE AS A DIRECT FEED TO WHAT WE CALL A NODE OR BOTH SIDE RADIO FREQUENCY OR RF.

AND THEN , WE CURRENTLY HAVE AS MANY AS FOUR TO NINE, THE CITY WOULD COUNTY 42 DEVICES IN CASCADE CASCADING.

THEIR FISTS CLENCHED ABLATION OF THIS REBUILD WOULD HAVE NO MORE THAN TO FIT A CASCADE.

THAT ALONG EACH TIME YOU MAY HAVE APPLIED THE SIGNAL LAWLEY TO YOU AMPLIFY THE SIGNAL ITSELF, BUT YOU ALSO KNOW AMPLIFYING NOISE TO FILTER INTO THE CABLE.

HE SAYS, YOU GET OUT 52 OR 42 AMPS OF CASCADE.

NOT AT ALL, A LOT OF NOISE.

THE PICTURE SHOWS THAT THERE WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN THAT UP SIGNIFICANTLY.

WHAT WE WILL DO IS ADDITIONALLY, GO BACK INTO THE CITY AND STRAND THEM THE ENTIRE CITY SINCE THE EXISTING MAPS ONLY SHOWS WHERE THE POLE BLINDS ON , WHO BECAME USED ANY OF THE OLD DESIGN.

UH, WE BEGAN THAT PROCESS REPEATEDLY WHEN THE CONSUMMATION OF THIS AGREEMENT, AND WE WILL WALK, LITERALLY BLOCK OUT THE ENTIRE 500 MILE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

WE WILL KNOW REACH POLL AND MEASURE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN EACH PHONE, BETWEEN EACH THOUSAND, ALL WITH THEM AND BACK TO OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

AND WE'LL DESIGN A NEW SYSTEM.

WE REALLY DON'T LET HOW THE SYSTEM ITSELF AND THE LAYOUT JARGON COMES INTO PLAY.

WHEN YOU'RE A CONFLUENCE OF TWO RIVERS, THAT ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF A TRICK TO THE, TO THE DESIGN, WITH THE SITUATION WE HAVEN'T CROSSED THE RIVER.

IN TWO LOCATIONS, YOU HAVE HAS RIVER FALLS AND EXPERIENCING IN WASHINGTON RECALLS, UH, TWICE DOWN THERE, UH, ERROR AND WHY WAIT FOR FRANKLIN GOOD ON BOB? BECAUSE THAT WAY WE KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET CHANGED AND POLAR TEND TO BE CHANGED OUT OF MOST OF YOUR FIBER OPTIC CABLE.

AND PLUS, UH, AFTER WE HAVE THE DESIGN, YOU WILL, WE WILL, WE WILL MEET WITH CITY STAFF AND THE CPL STAFF, CAROLYN TELEPHONE STAFF SCHEDULED LINE HOURS OF MEETINGS TO DISCUSS WHAT OUR PLANS ARE.

WE'LL SHARE THE MAPS WITH ALL THOSE ENTITIES.

AND, UH, WE'LL ASK YOU TO, AGAIN, PHYSICALLY LIE OUT THE SYSTEM AND SHOWN BY WHAT WE DO BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST 15 YEARS WITH ADDITIONAL FACILITIES BEING IN HALLS IN OUR FACILITIES REQUIRE, AND WE LOCATED A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM OTHER FACILITIES.

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WE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE SOME BALLS AROUND AND YOU HAVE TO MOVE SOME FACILITIES ON THE BALL AROUND.

AND THAT'S WHAT WAS TALKING ABOUT, MANAGING ALL THE WAY FOR US TO ATTACH OURSELVES TO THAT WHEN THAT'S ALL DONE, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE WILL DECIDE WHEN CONTRACTORS AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1992 NOW, AND USING ESSENTIALLY THE SAME CONTRACT WITH THE NEW YEAR WORKED FOR US.

AND WE DON'T ANTICIPATE CHANGING OTHER PEOPLE, BRING THOSE IN TO MEET EVERYONE.

AND A LOT THE DINNER WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND CAROLYN TELEPHARMACY DIDN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW EACH OTHER'S FACES BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO TO WORK.

THE SYSTEM WILL BE BUILT IN PHASES.

AND GENERALLY A PHASE WE'LL HAVE FOUR OR FIVE BEFORE WE START WORK.

WE MEAN, GENERALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TAKEN OUT A FULL PAGE AD AND WE'LL SHOW WHERE EACH THING WAS LOCATED.

I HAVE A PROPOSED SCHEDULE, A CORRESPONDING NUMBER TO EACH SPACE, AND THAT WILL ALSO GO IN AS A, AS A DEAL STUFF, BEATLES AND ANNOUNCED ON THE CHANNEL.

ONE OF OUR CHANNELS, HOW WE INTEND TO PROCEED BEFORE WE ACTUALLY DO EACH HOME THAT IS AFFECTED THAT DAY.

WE'LL HAVE OUR FARMS, CONSTRUCTION CREWS, EVEN IF THE AREA THEY'LL JUST BE ON THE STREETS ALL AROUND, THEY'RE CALLING IN THE GUARD, ASHLEY , EXCUSE ME, WE WILL HAVE A FLAT TIRE AND INSTALLED A SPECIAL CONSTRUCTION BOND AND IMMEDIATE INQUIRIES.

AND THAT NUMBER WILL BE ON THE DRAWING OR THE ACQUIRERS WOULD BE DIRECTED TO THAT.

NORMALLY IT WILL BE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WHAT HOME OWNER AND EXPERIENCE GENERALLY IN A, UH, IN A SITUATION WHERE IT'S AIRED.

OKAY.

WHEN IT'S ATTACHED TO PAUL'S SITUATION WHERE IT'S AN UNDERGROUND CABLE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE PLOWING THROUGH THE ARE.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY SOME HERE FOR YOU, BE A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED PROJECT.

UH, WHEN YOU DID BIG JARS AND PEOPLE HAVE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND RESILIENCE, AND THAT CAN TRY NOT TO WHAT WAS GOING TO HACK.

AND YOU TALK TO, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EVERY SITUATION THAT'S OCCURRED FOR THEM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LEAVE EVERYONE SATISFIED DESPITE THAT CHANGING HERE IN YOUR ENGINEERING CREW THAT GOES THROUGH WITH BALANCING THE SYSTEM SYSTEM SO THAT THE DIFFERENT FREQUENCIES OF ALL, WHY THEY SHOULD BE SWEEPING THE SYSTEM.

NOW A WEEK WE SWEETENED SYSTEM DOWN THROUGH DV THERE , WE'LL BRING IT DOWN TO ONE QUARTER OF THE QUIP WE BUILT.

WE REBUILD FROM NOW AND COMPLETED IT IN 1993.

AND OUR REQUEST FOR SERVICE OR SERVICE CALLS DROPPED ABOUT 60% IN THE FIRST YEAR AND 1996 TODAY COMPARE TO 1992 TODAY, 75% FEWER DEMAND SERVICE CALLS FOR SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE SYSTEM.

WHEN WE'RE DONE THERE, THEY WILL BE ASKING CHANCE.

UH, WE DON'T ADD ANY CHANNELS AND DELIVER BODIES FINISHED.

I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU THIS, THERE WILL BE INSTALLED FRUIT AS THAT COME BEHIND AND SWAP THE CABLE OF THE DROP CABLE, WHICH IS HOUSE TO THE FACILITIES ON THE CALL.

HE'LL SWAP EACH ONE OF THOSE DROPS ON EACH ONE OF THE DROPS WILL BE INSPECTED.

60% OF OUR SERVICE CALLS OCCUR BETWEEN THE TAP EACH ONE OF THOSE DROPS IN THE SPREAD, AND IT DOES MEET OUR STANDARDS IN REPLIES.

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WHY THAT REPLIES YOU'RE SOMEWHERE AROUND YOU BRING A WORKPLACE 48%.

IT JUST GOT DONE LAST WEEK, KISSED AND REPLIED ALMOST 60% OF THE DROPS.

SO THAT'S A VERY CRITICAL PART OF THEM.

WE WILL SIT UPON HERE.

EVERYTHING'S DONE.

WE'LL SAY THAT PROBABLY 99 BEFORE WE CAN SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PAST TO SEND OUT A SURVEY TO EACH OF OUR SUBSCRIBERS, IT TALKS ABOUT THE TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

UH, YOU TAKE THE TV TODAY AND ASK THAT THEY SHARE WITH US THEIR PREFERENCES.

AND WE ACCUMULATE THAT INFORMATION AND CODIFIED WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST BRILLIANT BOARDS IN DIFFERENT CITIES, SUBSIDIES C TABLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE COMMITTEE AND SHARE THE RESULTS IN SERVICE.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE OUR SUBSCRIBERS TELLING US YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO TELL US WHAT THEY WANT.

THEY WANT TO SEE .

AND THEN WE SHARE INPUT ON THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE WHAT CHANNELS I GAVE UP A LONG TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE ENJOY WATCHING.

AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT REBUILDING, IF I COULD TOUCH VERY BRIEFLY ON THAT, THE NEAR THE ACCIDENT AND A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS, UH, AND SERIES THEY'RE MORE THAN GET INTO COMMUNITY ACCESS.

THE GUY SAID, AND EVERY ONE OF THEM, UH, WITH EXCEPTION, KENZIE, WE JUST FINISHED A SYSTEM IN THE CHALLENGE AREA AND WOUND UP WITH A BLANK CHANNEL IN THIS PLACE, FELL, ALL SAYS CABLE.

I DON'T WORRY.

IT IS NOT A FOUR TO TWO FOR A FRANCHISE.

LAUREN'S NOT REQUIRE TO REQUIRE CABLE OFFERING ACCESS TO WHICH CAN DO IT.

NOT PART OF YOUR, WHAT YOU COMMITTED.

IF YOU WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE, WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU BRING ALL THE FRENCH PEOPLE TWICE WE'VE EVER DONE IT.

AND, UH, THERE WILL BE A SECTION WHEN THE WINDOWS ARE NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE COMMUNITY STANDARDS FROM THE CURL AND THE CHANNEL IS ANY, ANY, UH, CRACKPOT WITH THE CAMERA THAT THINKS HE'S DOING SOMETHING HE WANTS TO SHARE.

EVERYBODY'S GOING TO SHOW UP AND COME BACK AS AN ISSUE AND COME BACK AS AN ISSUE AREA.

WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING TO YOU IS BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY MANDATED , UM, CALMING YOU COUNT, THEY SIT IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IS .

HE HAD ALL THESE PLANS ABOUT WHAT CHANNEL REALIZED IN A LOT OF TIMES.

NOW IT'S A BLIND CHANNEL.

SO THAT'S JUST ALL OUT OF YOUR CONSIDERATION.

HAVE YOU DONE THAT? WHAT'S THAT THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE.

AND I TALKED TO HIM, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IT HE'D GONE BLANK, BRUCE, IF BY CHANCE, WE ALL DECIDE TO EXERCISE OUR RIGHT TO HAVE THAT ACCESS CHANNEL.

DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY TYPE OF A CENTRAL AUTHORITY YOU CAN SET STANDARDS? UM, CAN WE CONTROL IT IN ANY FASHION, AS FAR AS WHAT'S AIR, HOW MANY SCREENINGS LET ME CLEAR UP FLARE UP HERE AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACCESS AND IN OUR FRANCHISE AGREEMENT TALKS ABOUT COMMUNITY ACCESS, WHICH IS AN EDUCATIONAL AND GOVERNMENT ACCESS CHANNEL AND DOES NOT INCLUDE PUBLIC ACCESS AND PUBLIC ACCESS IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW ARE, UH, WINSTON-SALEM GREENSBORO RALEIGH, AND HOW THAT'S HANDLED AS A SEPARATE NONPROFIT CORPORATION, WHICH IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN OR WHATEVER,

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SO THAT IT GETS YOU OUT OF THE LIABILITY LINE.

THEY DO THE WORK, THEY DO THE WORK, AND THEN YOU'RE OUT OF THE LIFE.

WE HAVE PURPOSELY, IF WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS, UH, WE PURPOSELY PUBLIC ACCESS SO THAT WE WOULD NOT INCUR THOSE PROBLEMS. AND DAVID IS GOING TO PUT TOGETHER SOME OPTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT DO OR MIGHT NOT DO.

AND SOME OF THE RAMIFICATIONS POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE.

AND I'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

AS SOON AS I GET IT SHOULD COME THIS WEEK SOMETIME AND THAT'S A .

THIS IS, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HADN'T TAUGHT TO STAND BY.

AN ADULT IS BESIDES ME, THERE IS A HOUSE BEING BUILT.

I CABLE CUT BY CONTRACT FOR FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES, TWICE ABOUT SAYING THAT.

AND BOTH TIMES IN BOTH LOCATIONS, I KNOW THAT YOU LOCATE AND LOCATED THE KAGAN AND PAINTING AND LAND.

THEY WILL THERE BECAUSE I SAW, I KNEW IT.

I WALKED BY THERE EVER SINCE.

AND I KNOW OCCASIONALLY CABLE.

ONCE THE CITY GUY LOOKED TWICE TO THE SAME GUY, THE SAME, THEY CAME BY ME AND JUST NOT THE CABLE OPERATOR RECONSTRUCT.

THE CONSTRUCTION GUY CAME IN.

AND LAST TIME I WAS STANDING THERE AND TOLD ME, WATCH OUT, WALK THE DOG.

SO WHAT IS YOUR THAT THESE GUYS THAT, THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE THAT THEY HAVE TO STOP MOVING THAT ARE THEY GOING TO PAY? AND THIS CABLE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, WHICH APPLIES TO MY TABLE, YOUR CABLE OPERATOR, THERE ARE NO PROVISIONS IN THERE SEPARATELY FOR THE CABLE OPERATOR DIGS.

SHE MUST LOCATE BY SOME MEANS EITHER YOU LOCAL OR ANOTHER MEANS OR BITE ACTUALLY BY EXCAVATING ANY CABLE LINES IN THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD PENALIZE, UM, A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE.

PENALIZE THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

GUYS, THIS AGREEMENT IS BETWEEN THE CABLE OPERATOR IN THE CITY AND MR. WARREN, PERHAPS YOU CAN LEND ME SOME WORDS HERE, APPEAR TO ME THAT AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CABLE OPERATOR IN THE CITY, WE WOULD HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME PUTTING YOUR REMEDY IN THERE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE COMING IN.

IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.

DANNY, BUT THAT DOESN'T HELP YOU GET YOUR SERVICE BACK.

IF HE'S GOT TO PAY MONEY, HE'S GOING TO QUIT.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE RENT THAT SAYS, I'M GOING TO WORRY ABOUT MY .

ANYTIME YOU SEE ALL THE STICKERS, AND IF THEY DO THAT AND THEY DAMAGE OUR FACILITIES LOCATED, DON'T CALL

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WHAT'S YOUR .

WELL, I KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM THAT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP.

USUALLY HAVING TO RUN OUT AND FILE CHARGES AGAINST SOME CONTRACTOR, 10 OR 15 TIMES A DAY, WE CALL IT CUT THE CABLE.

AND JUST BEING BASICALLY A READER HAVE JUST ABSOLUTELY AMAZED AT HOW EMOTIONAL PEOPLE GET OVERTAKE OVER WATCHING OH, FIVE BUCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HAD IT IN MY LIFE.

AND I DON'T THINK I WOULD REALLY CONSIDER.

I JUST, I'M SORRY.

I'M NOT, I DON'T, I'M NOT THROWING OFF ON IT.

IT'S JUST IT'S I TELL YOU WHAT, I BET YOU, I GOT 1500, 2000 PEOPLE IN THE SIXTH WARD.

IT'LL TELL YOU WHEN THAT CABLE WAS OUT THERE.

EXCUSE ME, MR. HARRIS, MR. HARRISON, MR. MILLS, THE MIRROR HE'S OUT OF TOWN, I GUESS YOU REALIZE THIS ON BUSINESS.

AND, UH, HE, HE AND I, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, THIS AGREEMENT AND HE HAD A LITANY OF QUESTIONS, SOME OF WHICH I ASKED THE NIGHT AND I GOT SATISFACTORY ANSWERS, BUT WILL YOU BE HERE FOR THE SECOND READING? BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S GOING TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

OKAY, GOOD.

OKAY.

HE HAD SOME QUESTIONS AT AMERICAN AMERICAN PASTORAL QUESTION.

I ASKED THAT IT'D BE DELAYED AT NIGHT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE RESOLVED TONIGHT.

I MADE THE OFFER TO THE MANAGER AND TO ALL OF YOU, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A SIT-DOWN WITH SOME AFTERNOON, ONE-ON-ONE, WE'LL DISCUSS SOME RAMIFICATIONS ON I'LL TALK WITH THE MAYOR WHEN HE GETS BACK ABOUT IT.

AND HE MADE ME WANT TO DO THAT.

AND HE'S GOT THIS QUESTIONS.

THE PROCESS ON FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS WITH THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA IS THEIRS TO NOT READING, BUT TO ADOPTION PROCEDURES.

ONE HAS HAD THE FIRST READING TONIGHT OF WHY DON'T YOU THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A MOTION FOR THE AGREEMENT AND PASS THAT.

AND THEN AT THE SECOND READING THAT IS ADOPTED, THE MOTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.

CONTINUE ON THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS SENT OUT TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO INCLUDED THE ORDINANCE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, ALL IN ONE DOC AT WHAT, THIS IS WHAT I FINISHED AT FIVE 30 THIS AFTERNOON.

AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING GOTTEN IT TO YOU BEFORE, BUT MR. HAYES TRIED TO HELP ME BY SENDING ME FLOPPY DISC FROM THE DOCUMENT THAT HE HAD PREPARED AT WHICH HE HAD FURNISHED A COPY TO, WHICH WENT TO YOU ALL.

AND BY FOUR O'CLOCK YESTERDAY AT NOON, MIKE OUT OF SAN DIEGO WAS NOT READY TO SHOOT ME IN HERSELF TO WHAT HE'D BEEN TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE CODES THAT HE HAD BUILT IN TO HIS DESK.

AND SHE WOULD NOT AWARE HOW IT SHOULDN'T BE.

I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT FINALLY TURNED OUT JOYCE .

SHE DOES MOST OF THEM AND SHE TOOK IT WRONG AND WORKED ON IT LAST NIGHT AGAIN THIS MORNING.

AND SHE'S ABOUT SEVEN HOURS GETTING IT INTO THE SHAPE TUESDAY.

WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

ASSUMING WE ADOPT THIS TONIGHT IN THE MIRROR HAS SOME CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND YOU TO BE MADE THAT CAN BE MADE BEFORE IT'S PASSED ON SECOND RATE, THE ONLY PASS IF THEY HAVE TWO MOTIONS, IT HAS TO BE DONE AT TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS.

I WANT TO READ THIS ON UNTIL YOU TONIGHT, BUT YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE ORDINANCE THAT THIS ORDINANCE THAT I HAVE TO FAN, WHICH IS ATTACHED TO THE GRANDCHILD IS ORIGINAL IN MY OFFICE.

I WANT TO READ THIS TO YOU BECAUSE THIS TOOK THE PLACE OF INSTRUMENT THAT MR. HARRISON PROVIDED.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE WHOLE THING, THE HEARING, BECAUSE WE GIVE THE PUBLIC INPUT, FINISH UP FOR YOU BEFORE YOU READ IT OUT.

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UH, CITY MAN, JUST MAY STATEMENT, UH, BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO ANYONE IN ORDER TO MAY HAVE A STATEMENT, A COMMENT, OR A REQUEST, UH, PERTAINING TO THIS FRANCHISE APPLICATION.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT LIKED TO SPEAK ON THE CABLE FRANCHISE? ALMOST.

I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS I'VE GOT I'LL WAIT UNTIL THE PUBLIC GOING TO BE CLOSING.

YOU'VE HEARD MOST OF THEM PROBABLY CLOSE AND SECOND, AND I WANT TO FAVORITE EMOTIONS.

ALL OPPOSE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

ALL RIGHT, QUESTIONS, GET READY.

THIS IS THE STUFF THAT'S COMING TO ME AND I NEED TO GET SOME ANSWERS FROM, AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT TONIGHT SO PEOPLE CAN SEE IT AGAIN.

YOU PUNCHED ME IF I, IF I MISS ONE, OKAY.

THESE FOLKS HAVE CALLED IN.

A LOT OF THIS STUFF CAME OUT DURING THE HURRICANE AND SUBSEQUENT TIME THEREAFTER, THE FIRST THING, AND I'VE SEEN IT IN HERE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY IT.

IF SOMEBODY LOSES THEIR SARCS FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND IT'S DOWN FOR SEVERAL DAYS OR MORE, IF THEY CALL YOUR OFFICE THERE, THEY'LL BE ALLOWED TO REBATE ON THE LAST SERVICE.

NOW THAT'S THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN TOWN, BUT IT IS JUST THE BEST KEPT SECRET.

I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

I HAPPENED TO, I HEARD ABOUT IT TWO WEEKS AGO, MY WIFE CALLED FIND OUT WHEN WE WERE GONNA GET SERVICE BACK OR WHEN THE HURRICANE CAME.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE BUYING THE SERVICE KNOW THAT THEY CAN GET A REBATE.

SO THAT'S, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK.

I THINK IT'S PRINTED ON THE BACK OF THE DEAL.

BRIEF.

THE MAIN THING IS, YOU KNOW, THESE FOLKS ARE, ARE BINDING THE SERVICE IN GOOD FAITH.

AND IF THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF BAD SERVICE OR BECAUSE OF A PROBLEM TO GET PART OF THEIR MONEY BACK, THEY DESERVE.

NOW THIS HAS TO BE DURING THE ACTUAL OUTAGE ITSELF, OR CAN THEY CALL AFTER THE FACT, IF THEY'D LOST HER CHANNEL FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS, SAY DURING THE HURRICANE, WHAT'S THE DEAL ON IT? WE WOULD PREFER THAT WELL NOW, YOU KNOW, WE NOTICED THAT THE LAST TIME WE TALKED, THERE'S ALWAYS A PROBLEM WITH CALLING Y'ALL WHEN THE SERVICES OUT, CAUSE THAT PHONE'S BUSY ALL THE TIME, YOU CALL AND CALL AND CALL AND CALL AND CALL.

AND I KNOW YOU GUYS HAD PROMISED TO IMPROVE THAT SERVICE OKAY, BUDDY.

WELL, YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM? UH, REFRESH MY MEMORY.

YES, MR. MACK, HE LIKES, CAUSE I'M TRYING TO HELP.

WE WERE WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS.

EVERYBODY IN THE AREA OVER THERE.

THEY'RE TELLING ME WHAT WAS THAT ADDRESS AGAIN, SIR? 1,303 POUNDER GRAY, BRO.

THE FACT THAT I DON'T KNOW AND NOW WE GO DOWN AT LEAST ONCE EVERY OTHER DAY, MAYBE PERIOD OF 30 SECONDS, MINUTE TO MINUTE.

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WAY UP DOWN.

AND THE LADY YOU HAVE TO CALL AND THEY WON'T GIVE YOU A REBATE.

THEY HAD NO WAY OF CHECKING.

I GUESS AN HOUR OR EVEN TECHNOLOGIES.

THEY SHOULD KNOW ALL GOING BACK TO THE DAY.

IN FACT, SHE SAID, WELL, WITHOUT REINFORCING TODAY, BECAUSE THE HURRICANE MAYBE AN HOUR BEFORE, DURING THE NIGHT, SO WHY PEOPLE THERE DO A REBATE.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT OR PEOPLE OUT THERE, IF IT'S $2, THEY SHOULDN'T GET, AND WE'RE GOING TO WAIT 18 MONTHS TO GET YOUR SYSTEM, BUT YOU WERE WAITING 18 MONTHS.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

IF SOMEONE PAPER , THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT UP TONIGHT.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT COMMUNITY SHOULD KNOW.

AND AS A CABLE SUBSCRIBER, IF YOU SEND ME A BILL OR SOME INFORMATION IN THE STATES, WE LIVE BETWEEN TWO RIVERS AND THE HURRICANE ERA.

AND OFTEN TIMES , THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PRICE OF DOING BUSINESS.

AND IF IT, IF THEY SAY, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE SERVICE AVAILABLE, YOU GET IT BACK THEN.

SO BE IT THAT'S THE PRICE OF DOING BUSINESS FOR THEM BECAUSE A $2 REBATE, $3 REBATE.

IF YOU DON'T GET THE SERVICE, YOU SHOULD GET MONEY BACK FOR.

BUT WHAT IF THIS AND THAT? AND THAT KNOW GOD LIKE A HURRICANE, HE JUST SAID YOU GET A REBATE NEIGHBOR YEAH.

MR. , MR. RATTI MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON WHY THERE'S SO MANY ATOMS, THAT VALLEY AREA.

AND THEN IT'S A WHOLE, I WOULD, I MEAN, AS FAR AS BUYER IS CONCERNED, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT.

CAUSE MINE IS LIKE, I BET I HAVEN'T HAD TWO OUTAGES.

HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING SOME OUTAGES LIKE THAT BECAUSE I'D HAVE TO PAUSE FOR BREATH.

I THOUGHT MAYBE MR. IREADY MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY HAVE FOUND ABOUT WHAT THE SITUATION WAS OUT THERE.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ASSUME THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE, I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THEY ARE.

I AGREE.

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT.

I DON'T HAVE OBJECT MORE THAN WE SHOULD HAVE SEEN THAT EVERYBODY HAS PROPER UP.

WE SHOULD LET EVERYBODY SPEAK YOURSELF.

BUT IF MR. RATTI WOULDN'T SPEAK TO THAT ISSUE ABOUT GREENBRIAR, HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON YES, SIR.

THANKS FOR COMING.

IF I UNDERSTAND ALREADY, AND I CAN ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

UH, I THINK GENTLEMEN WILL GRID AT PREVIOUS STORM AREA AS DID THE REST OF THE CITY, OCCASIONALLY OUTAGE HURRICANE BURKE FROM THE DEVASTATING SYSTEM.

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MR. MUELLER SAID THIS SYSTEM ON THE TREES AS THE CITY FELL ON OUR CAMERA SYSTEM, AS WELL AS YOUR ELECTRICAL SYSTEM AND CAUSE DAMAGES DANCE UK, IT STILL KEPT OFFERING.

WE DID NOT KNOW THAT CALL SHORTNESSES AND ELECTRICAL.

SOME OF THEM SHELTER IMMEDIATELY.

SOME OF THEM TOOK LONGER TO APPEAR.

IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT ONE OF THE AREAS THAT EXPERIENCED SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROBLEMS, BUT THEY STILL HAVE OURS USES LIGHTNING FROM THE STORMS THAT CAME AFTER AFTER THE HURRICANE CAME THROUGH, WE THOUGHT WE'D JUST ABOUT COMPLETE.

WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN HERE COMES A TON OF STONES.

THE SHORTS WERE CAUSED BY THE LION AND THE TREE LIMBS, AND THEY'RE SHOWING UP.

NOW WE HAVE SYSTEM BACK ON A WEEK OR MAYBE LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AFTER THE AFTERCARE, THEY SHORTS ARE STARTING TO APPEAR NOW RANDOM LIGHT AND KNOWING EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE AT CAN BE TROUBLESHOOTING.

IN MANY CASES, WE CANNOT FIND THE PROBLEM IT WAS OCCURRING, UH, AND PROBLEM WITH GREENBRIAR.

AND SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS, TRAMP WOODS IS A CENTRAL WEEK IN THE CALL.

WE WERE ALL TRUCK.

AND BY THE TIME WE GET THERE, THE SERVICE CENTER STORE TO SELL.

SO WE, WE CANNOT FIND THE ORIGINATING ONE PROBLEM UNTIL WE CAN GET THERE IN MANY CASES WHILE THE PROBLEM IS OCCURRING, THEN WE CAN, THEN WE CAN FIND THE PROBLEM FIX.

RAINBIRD HAD BEEN VERY UNFORTUNATE IN THE FACT THAT SEVERAL HOURS, SINCE SINCE 12, UH, THE, WE HAD DISPATCHED IN EVERY INSTANCE THAT WE'VE BEEN, IN SOME CASES WE'VE EVER FIXED PROBLEMS THAT RENTED THAT SOLUTION, THAT SITUATION IMMEDIATELY, IN SOME CASES, WE WILL NOT HAVE TO DO THIS.

UH, WE JUST COULD NOT FIND THE PROBLEMS I WAS ON VACATION LAST WEEK WAS MY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PAST SUNDAY NIGHT WE HAD ANOTHER SERVICE INTERRUPTION THAT NOT ONLY AFFECTED BRAIN ROBERT AFFECTED IT AFFECTED, UH, TRENT WAS JAMES CITY MEDICINE AND OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY WILL TRACE THAT PROBLEM BACK TO SEVENTH STREET.

AND WE HAD NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS IN THAT AREA.

UM, WE REPLACED THE ENTIRE HOUSE AND HAD BEEN ONLINE, BUT NOT COMPLETELY DAMAGED.

IT STILL WORKED.

UM, SO WE REPLACED THE ENTIRE HOUSE, REMEDY THAT SITUATION.

WE BELIEVE I CAN'T SIT HERE AND TELL YOU THAT ANOTHER PROBLEM ABOUT THAT WILL NOT SHOW UP AS A SHELL FIXING.

AND I WILL BE ACCREDITED.

THAT CALL ME THAT HAS NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE.

ANY CUSTOMER CALL MY OFFICE OR CALLS ME AND REQUEST CREDIT.

THEY GET THE CREDIT.

I DON'T GIVE THEM A HARD TIME.

IF THEY ASK TO FIND OUT AND GET FIVE HOURS, BASICALLY TWO DAYS THEY GET TWO DAYS.

THERE'S NO BEEN AN ISSUE.

I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.

THEY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

SORRY.

I GOT ONE MORE, ONE MORE FOR YOU.

YOU'RE IN THE LEFT SEAT.

IN THAT MONTH AGO, I HAD A, UH, ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS CALL ME, SAID THEY HAD JUST MOVED IN THERE.

THEY CALLED FOR CABLE.

WHEN THEY WERE MATTER OF FACT, THEY TOLD HIM THE 90 DAYS WHEN THEY COULD GET HOOKED UP 90 DAYS, THAT'S KIND OF A LONG TIME.

I CALLED THE CITY MANAGER.

I THINK WE GOT IT PUSHED UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT UH, WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY EXPECT THE, YOU KNOW, AND ESPECIALLY IN AN ALREADY ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT DOES SOUND LIKE A LONG TIME TO WAIT TO GET YOUR CABLE HOOKED UP.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN, WE STILL, WE STILL TRY TO HAVE 20 HOMES WHERE THERE'S 20 HOMES PER MILE IN GREENBRIER.

I BELIEVE.

WELL, STRICT TO BE PUT IN.

LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE, A BRAND NEW STREET IS PUT IN THE COURT.

THE FIRST HOUSE, HE MAY BE 6, 7, 800 FEET ONLY HOUSE LIKE, NO, THIS WAS NOT THE FIT.

WASN'T THE TYPICAL ISSUE MEAN? YOU TOOK CARE OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME IT'S EVER HAPPENED TO ME.

AND IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE, IF YOUR REPRESENTATIVES WOULD EXPLAIN IT TO THEM, IT'S VERY MATTER OF FACT, SHE SAID, CAUSE TAKE 90 DAYS, WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT WE WAITING ON NEW EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING WAS WASHING UP AND STOVE.

WE DO ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN IT.

AND THEN IT GETS TO ME, I AM BUSINESS PUT CUSTOMERS ON I, NOT A BUSINESS APP.

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YEAH.

I JUST GET UP.

UNDERSTAND WHEN I CALL YOU I'M I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITY AND LOOP, RIGHT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT JAMES CITY OR TRAMP WOODS OR COSINE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY.

AND SO I JUST, YOU, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT YOU KNEW THAT THE PROBLEMS ARE THERE.

YES.

I UNDERSTAND.

LIKE I SAID, WHEN A CUSTOMER CALLS US, WE STILL LOOK AT THE HOMES AND TRYING TO FOLLOW UP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

BYE.

LET US, LET'S GET IT BACK ON TRACK AL WARD, OUR ATTORNEY WAS GET READY TO READ THE ORDINANCE.

WOULD YOU CONTINUE ON AND PLEASE WITHOUT INTERRUPTION.

OKAY.

COMMUNICATION SYSTEM FRANCHISE TO MULTIMEDIA CABLEVISION NAME MAINTAIN AND OPERATED AT CAMPBELL COMMUNICATION SYSTEM WITHIN THE CITY OF NEW AND APPROVING FRANCHISE AGREEMENT AND BOATING PROVISION AND CONDITIONS RELATED TO THE EXERCISE.

WHEREAS THE BOARD OF ALL OF THEM, ANOTHER, THE CITY OF NEW AND AWARDED A CABLE TV AND FRANCHISED CAROLINA TV CABLE CORPORATION, A FRANCHISE ORDINANCE PASSED ON FIRST GRADING ON THE 19TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 1976, ADOPTED ON A SECOND RATING ON THE SECOND DAY OF NOVEMBER, 1976, WHICH SAID ORDINANCE WAS DULY ACCEPTED BY CAROLINA TV CABLE CORPORATION.

AND WHEREAS CAROLINA TV CABLE CORPORATION CHANGED HIS NAME TO NEWBURN CABLE TV, INC.

ON ABOUT JANUARY 31ST, 1979.

AND OPERATED SAID FRANCHISE UNDER SAID NAME UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST, 1987.

AT WHICH TIME YOU WERE CABLE TV, INC BURDENED WITH TARA, THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND WASTE TIME CAR OVER COMMUNICATIONS INC WAS BY THE CORPORATION.

AND WHEREAS TARGET COMMUNICATIONS INC CAME A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF MULTIMEDIA CABLE VISION.

AND AS A RESULT OF MODEM, HE HADN'T PURCHASED ALL OF HIS OUTSTANDING CAPITAL STOCK OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, BEGINNING OF 1990.

AND WHEREAS THE ORIGINAL TERM OF THE 1976 FRANCHISE ORDINANCE, INCLUDING THE FIVE-YEAR OPTION IS ABOUT TO EXPIRE AND THE EXISTING FRANCHISEE DARLA COMMUNICATIONS AND HAS REQUESTED THAT A NEW FRANCHISE BE ISSUED TO HIS PARENT CORPORATION MULTIMEDIA CABLE.

AND WHEREAS THE BOARD OF ALL OF ANOTHER CITY OF NEW ZEALAND CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 11TH DAY OF JUNE, 1996, IN WHICH ALL INTERESTED PARTIES ARE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD WITH RESPECT TO WHETHER THE BOARD SHOULD ADOPT AN ORDINANCE, GRANTING A FRANCHISE TO MOTOR MEDIA CABLEVISION, INC.

AND AT THE VERY END OF THE BOARD THAT OPPOSED FRANCHISEE MULTIMEDIA CABLE BILLION ANG MULTIMEDIA IS POSSESSED TO THE TECHNICAL ABILITY FOR NATURAL STANDING AND CHARACTER REQUIRED TO ENABLE IT TO PROVIDE AN ADEQUATE CABLE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, PERSON, FIRMS AND CORPORATIONS RUSHED IN AND ARE CONDUCTING BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

AND THEY MONITOR MEDIA PLAN, MAINTAIN, CONSTRUCTING AND OPERATING A CABLE TELEVISION SYSTEM WERE CONSIDERED AND FOUND TO BE ADAMANT FEASIBLE.

AND THE BOARD OF THEM HAS CONCLUDED THAT IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY OF NEWBURGH TO AWARD SEVEN RENEWAL FRANCHISE, THE MULTIMEDIA CABLE VENDOR NAME, AS IT HADN'T BEEN REQUESTED TO DO BY TORO COMMUNICATIONS SAYING EXISTING FRANCHISEES.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT ORDAINED WITH A BORDER WALL THAT CITY OF NEWARK, SECTION ONE, THAT MULTIMEDIA CABLE VISION AND CASE TALK CAROLINA CORPORATION, WHICH HAS A PRINCIPAL OFFICE AND TAKE THE PLACE OF BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF ARLINGTON VIRGINIA, WHICH HAS BEEN DOMESTICATED IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA AND IS THEIR FORTHRIGHT TO DO BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, BEING THE SAME AS HEREBY AWARDED A FRANCHISE TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE A CABLE COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM WITHIN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, SUBJECT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT BY BETWEEN THE CITY AND MULTIMEDIA, A COPY OF WHICH IS ATTACHED TO IT TO INCORPORATE HERE AND BY REFERENCE SECTION TWO 70 FRANCHISE AGREEMENT BEARING DATE AUGUST 13TH, 1996, BEING THE SAME AS HEREBY APPROVED AND THE MAYOR AND THE CITY CLERK BEING THERE HEREBY AUTHORIZED AND DIRECTED TO EXECUTE SAME FOR AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, SECTION THREE, THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE IN FULL FORCE AND EFFECT FROM AN ATTIC, THIS ADOPTION SECOND READING BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN OR THE CITY OF NEWBURN.

AND IT'S BEING ACCEPTED BY THE FRANCHISEE.

LET ME MAKE ONE OBSERVATION FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, BUT MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS I READ EVERYTHING IT WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD OF BALDWIN DURING THE MEETING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT MY VOICE WOULD STAND IT NOW DID ROLL COOL.

YES, YES, YES.

I DON'T FIND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE LOCAL LAW

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ENFORCEMENT BLOCK GRANT CHIEF.

COULD I ASK THE CHIEF ONE TWICE THOSE, UH, UH, DEAL WITH THE GRANT ITSELF, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED ON THIS.

I WAS ASKED TODAY ABOUT IT AND IT CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD BECAUSE I MISSED PUBLIC HEARING.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A PRESENTATIONAL, THE APPLICATION.

WHY DO THEY REQUIRE REALLY ONE TO REQUIRE AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANT AND, UH, ALL THE GRANTS THAT I'VE EVER DONE BEFORE.

THAT'S NEVER BEEN A CORRECT PROCESS, BUT BASICALLY EVERY ENTITY IN THE NATION AND BASED ON THE MARK UCR CRIMES, VIOLENT CRIMES BREAKING IN ENGLISH.

AND THE AMOUNT OF SAID, WELL, WE CAN GET OUR CHAIR SAID $8,000.

IT JUST CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BOUND AND DETERMINED WEEKEND GAIN BENEFIT.

UH, THE GRANT WAS A MATTER OF $78,824.

WE HAD A 10% MATCH REQUIREMENT FOR THE GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,758.

UM, WHAT WE PROPOSED IS TO USE THE MONEY FOR OVERTIME EQUIVALENT FOR POLICE OFFICERS, CRIME PREVENTION MATERIALS, SUCH AS WHAT WE DIDN'T GET TO DO OUR POLICE BLOOMING CLUB LAST YEAR, WE LOST A GRANT, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THIS GRANT.

AND THE BIG EXPENDITURE IS FOR OUT ENHANCING SECURITY.

AND THAT'S THE PLACE FOR CAMERAS IN THE DOWNTOWN HERE.

THAT'D BE PLACED AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, MIDDLE AND POLITICS.

I EXPLAINED TO ME WHAT THIS GUY, NO, NOT REALLY HANGING DOWN OUT OF CAMERAS AND MET WITH GREG'S BECAUSE IT IS IN THE SCOPE OF THE DISTRICT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIVING IN A DATA POLL CAMERAS ARE BUILT INTO THE EXISTING POSABLE.

THE TRAFFIC SYSTEMS ARE, OR CANVAS ARE FIT INTO THE EXISTING STREETWISE.

UH, YOU USED THEM IN SEVERAL AREAS.

UH, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND HAS 16.

AND WITH THE SIGNAGE THAT YOU PUT UP SAYING THAT AREAS UNDER SURVEILLANCE, THEY HAD DROP IN BUSINESS, BREAKING HIS FIRST MATCHING A SHOT AT BUSINESSES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

I GOT THIS IDEA IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD CAUSE COULD CAMERAS LIKE THAT BE HELPFUL ON BILL STREET.

FOR INSTANCE, WE WERE HAVING A WHOLE LOT OF PROBLEMS. COULD THAT HAVE BEEN BENEFICIAL OVER THE ENDED UP FEELING VERY, WE WERE TRYING TO RIP UP CERTAIN GAVIN.

YEAH.

IT COULD BE THAT THEY CAN BE USED AT ABOUT ANYWHERE SO GLAD YOU GET TO THOSE.

THERE ISN'T A PARTICULAR REASON WHY YOU GET ONGOING.

YOU DON'T, IT'S FINE.

I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT.

AND IT BASICALLY IS A TASK AREA.

UH, THE FACILITIES ARE BASICALLY THERE.

THE CITY CAN RUN A FIBER OPTICS POLICE DEPARTMENT MONITORING.

SINCE WE'VE HAD SUCH AN INFLUX OF TOURISM BUILDING THAT AREA WITH THE RESIDENTS, MOVING DOWNTOWN THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TARGET AREA.

DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.

I THOUGHT IT WAS FANTASTIC.

I COULD VISUALIZE IF WE DID 10, HOW EFFECTIVE, UH, CAMERAS IN FINDING AREAS LIKE THAT COULD BE HELPING US TO MOVE THE CERTAIN JOKE TRACKS OUT.

YOU KNOW, SINCE WE, I AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN SURGICAL STOREFRONTS, YOU KNOW, CHIEF, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH BARBARA LEE, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO DOING ANYTHING ELSE IN TERMS OF ANOTHER GRANT APPLY FOR ONE TO WHERE WE CAN PUT IT.

WELL, WE KNOW WE HAVE CRIME RIGHT NOW, SERIOUS CREDIT, AND I'M NOT TAKING AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN CAUSE IN MY WARD.

AND I LIKE TO SEE EVERYTHING DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEBT PROTECTED, BUT LET'S

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MAKE SURE THAT OUR NEXT PRIORITY IN TERMS OF CAMERAS, SURVEILLANCE, OR WHATEVER WE GONNA APPLY FOR IS IN AREAS WHERE IS CRIME RIGHT NOW? I THINK THE ONE THING THAT YOU NEED TO BE EXPECTING WHEN YOU PUT THEM IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS TALKING ABOUT PATIENT PRIVACY.

AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN A CONSIDERATION, BUT I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF DOING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

OKAY.

ARE THERE AREAS THAT MAY BE RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEY HAVE CORNERS THAT WE KNOW THAT ARE FREQUENT.

THE ONLY PLACE I KNOW THAT THEY'RE USING RESIDENTIAL AREAS IS A LOT OF ALGEBRA PROJECTS.

BUT WHEN I CONSIDERED THAT, I FELT LIKE THAT WAS A REALLY .

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, RIGHT NOW WE'D LIKE TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT HAS ANY COMMENT ON THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT BLOCK, GRANT THE MOTION SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.

HE'S THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH.

LOOKING GOOD.

IT'S A GIMME.

OKAY.

CAN I GET A GOOD CONSENT AGENDA? YEAH.

YES.

THANK YOU.

AM 13 APPOINTMENTS, MR. PENDLETON.

NOPE.

MISCELLANEOUS.

I DO HAVE SOMETHING.

BRING IT UP TONIGHT.

WE HAVE A REQUEST BY THE 16TH OF 1996, MARRIOTT AND MARRIOTT AND SATURDAY THE 16TH, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE HER GUEST AND THEY WANTED TO KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT GETTING THE PROCLAMATION FOR HER THAT DAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER INFORMATION IF YOU'RE CALLING THEM ON? YEAH.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE SIDE OF THIS, DON'T WORRY.

WHAT IS THAT, MAN? I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO HIM ABOUT GETTING SOME ANSWERS ON THOSE.

WELL, I'M NOT, I TALKED TO THE GENERAL A WHILE BACK AND THEN THEY TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO COMPLICATE, BUT I NEED TO KNOW THE MAX.

UM, ONE THING MR. RAWLS SPOKE TODAY TONIGHT ABOUT THE LEAD SHAPES AND MR. SPOKE ABOUT AN ITEM IN CERTAIN BUILDING INSPECTORS.

AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANYONE HERE FROM ANY, UH, INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT.

AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANYONE HERE FROM THE SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT THAT MIGHT ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE.

AND THAT IN ITSELF IS NOT WRONG, BUT IT BROUGHT UP THE MATTER THAT MOST BOARDS, THE COUNTY BOARD HERE, AND MOST OF THE BOARDS REQUIRE THAT PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE, GIVE US PRIOR NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT.

SO THEY CAN BE ONLY AGENDA UNDER REQUEST PETITIONS OF CITIZENS.

NOW THAT HASN'T PARTICULARLY BEEN AN ISSUE WITH ME.

I HAVEN'T REALLY CARED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT, WELL, THERE MIGHT SOMETHING COME UP ON MONDAY.

THEY WON'T TALK ABOUT IT ON TUESDAY.

AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE NAME OF THIS ONE, BUT TONIGHT POINTS OUT THE FACT THAT IT MAY BE WISE.

IF WE TRY TO ENCOURAGE

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PEOPLE TO GET ON AIR, BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE PEOPLE HERE PRESENT AND ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, WHICH WE COULD HAVE DONE HAD THEY HAD PRIOR NOTICE, THEY WANTED TO COME BEFORE US AND ADDRESS THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES.

SO I DON'T WANT TO IMAGINE HOW TO GO ABOUT THAT.

LIKE I SAY, I'M NOT, I WOULD NOT WANT TO REQUIRE THAT EVERYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, UH, GIVE US TO DO THAT.

THE COUNTY BOARD DOES THAT FOR EXAMPLE.

BUT IF THERE WAS SOME WAY WE COULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO SO.

AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, BUT I JUST THOUGHT I WAS BRINGING THAT UP.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL TONIGHT.

IF WE'D HAD SOMEONE HERE FROM THE THREE BUILDING PERSPECTIVES ON, EXCUSE ME, BILL.

AND YOU'LL USE SHORT BARBARA.

MY SUGGESTION TO THAT IS, AND LIKE AL SAID, WE, YOU CAN'T MAKE SOMEONE.

MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM EACH DEPARTMENT TO BE HERE.

THE NEXT DAY WE HAVE REQUESTED.

PETITIONER SAYS, YOU HAVE YOU HAVE YOU HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE DEPARTMENT HERE, IF NOTHING, BUT TO SIT AND DO A REQUEST AND PETITION OF CITIZENS AFTER THAT'S DONE, THEY CAN LEAVE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

EXCUSE ME.

ME, YOU, YOU TALKING ABOUT DRAGGING PEOPLE OUT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE CITY THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO RESPOND TO US, THAT THEY HEAR TO GIVE ANSWERS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS, BUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH SOMEONE COME HERE SITTING ONE HOUR, HAVE SOMEONE COME HERE, SIT FOR ONE HOUR.

THEY DON'T NEED AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER.

DON'T JUICE.

I MEAN, GEEZ, WHAT'S WRONG WITH US TAKING THE INFORMATION AND THEN MAKING AN INQUIRY FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND GETTING BACK WITH THE PERSON WHO, WHO HAS THE QUESTION.

WELL, THAT'S, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

BUT I THINK SOMETIMES YOU NEED A DEPARTMENT PERSON HERE DOING A TONS OF REQUESTS, BUT TWO, YOU DON'T WANT TO UNNECESSARILY DRAG PEOPLE DOWN HERE AT NIGHT, WE DO WORKING ALL DAY.

YOU KNOW, FAMILIES WERE HOLED IT, ROB YOU HERE ALL NIGHT.

I KNOW THIS IS MY JOB.

AND IT'S THEIR JOB TO RESPOND TO US.

HOW COME WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEM RESPONDING TO A DAY LATER, WHAT'S WRONG WITH WRITING A LETTER TO THE PERSON? I MEAN, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT'S THE EXPEDITIOUS FARSI BY A LETTER DOES NOT X DOES NOT PRESENT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE INTERCHANGE.

LIKE THEY MAY HAVE A QUESTION.

DANNY MAY WRITE THEM A LETTER, BUT THEY CAN'T SAY YES, BUT WITHOUT WRITING ANOTHER LETTER, WE'RE COMING BACK AGAIN.

IT DRAGS OUT THE PROCESS AND I'M NOT, I'M JUST, I DIDN'T MEAN TO START A WAR HERE.

AND I DON'T REALLY THINK I DID, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE THIS OBVIOUS TONIGHT THAT THE, THE REASON WHY YOU'RE HERE, YOU CAN HEAR REQUESTED PETITIONS OF CITIZENS.

BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE TECHNICAL INFORMATION AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME, THAT'S RIGHT.

BUT THEN IT COMPLICATES THE ISSUE AND IT DOESN'T DO THEM ANY GOOD BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE ANSWERS THEY WANT AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THE ANSWERS WE WANT.

SO EVERYONE WAS SORT OF FRUSTRATED.

NOW, I, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH CERTAIN CITY EMPLOYEES BEING REQUIRED TO BE HERE THAT ONE NIGHT, A MONTH, WE ONLY HAVE A PETITION FROM CITIZENS.

ONE MEETING.

WE DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME.

THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PLANS FOR ONE HOUR AND THEY WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA.

SO THEY WILL BE OUT EARLY WELL, LET'S WAIT UNTIL IT BECOMES A REAL BIG PROBLEM.

I DON'T SEE IT AS IT HAS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM NOW.

OKAY.

WHAT I WAS IN A MEETING WITH SOME OF THE POLICEMEN, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A POLICE SITUATION, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO READ THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD SO THAT THEY CAN BE ABREAST OF THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAPPENING IN .

IF YOU, IF YOU WILL, MAX, TITUS AND ENLIST, DO THIS WORK SESSION.

I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR ASS AS A, BUT BEFORE I RETIRED AS A JOURNALIST, I DID ATTEND BOARD MEETINGS WHERE EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD WAS REQUIRED TO APPEAR BEFORE THE BOARD AT ONE MEETING PER MONTH TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE OPERATION THERE.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT AN UNKNOWN IDEA.

AND NUMBER TWO, THE REASON I FEEL THAT IT'S MAYBE THAT THESE PEOPLE BE HERE IS BECAUSE IT'S OUR JOB TO ANSWER THESE REQUESTS AND PETITIONS.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE IT.

AND I, AND WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.

WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN DANNY'S DEPARTMENT OR THE TREATMENT PLANT OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO OUR

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JOB IS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE REPRESENT.

AND IF THEY COME BEFORE US WITH A QUESTION, I FEEL THAT WE NEED THE RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AT THAT TIME AND NOT PUT THEM ON.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM MAY I JUST INTERJECT SOMETHING HERE? I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD WISHES TO HAVE THE CAN DEPARTMENT HEADS TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS WHEN WE HAVE PETITIONS OR CITIZENS AND, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN RESPOND TO QUESTIONS.

UH THAT'S NO PROBLEM.

BE GLAD TO DO THAT.

WE NORMALLY TRY TO ANTICIPATE BASED ON AGENDA ITEMS, YOU KNOW, WHO SHOULD BE HERE AND WHO SHOULD NOT.

AND, UH, MR. AVERY CALLED ME TODAY AND HE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT LOOKED CONTROVERSIAL ON THE AGENDA CALL.

THIS CAME UNDER PETITIONS, OF COURSE.

AND SO, UH, I DIDN'T ASK HIM TO COME IN AND MR. MUSE ASKED ME ABOUT THE LEACH AID AGREEMENT.

AND SINCE I PROBABLY KNOW MORE ABOUT THE LEACHATES SITUATION THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY, AND I COULD HAVE, I COULD HAVE ANSWERED ANY OF HIS QUESTIONS OR RESPONDED TO ANYTHING THAT MR. ROSS HAD SAY TONIGHT, BUT WE JUST LET HIM SAY WHAT HE SAID AND SIT DOWN.

SO I DIDN'T FEEL THAT A RESPONSE WAS NECESSARY, BUT I COULD HAVE RESPONDED TO THAT, UH, TO, I THINK, TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE BOARD, UH, IN THAT SITUATION.

BUT, UH, THAT, THAT BEING ASIDE, UH, AS FAR AS THE TWO OR THREE K PROGRAM IS CONCERNED, I NEVER HEARD OF THE TWO OR THREE K PROGRAM, BUT A CITY DOESN'T RUN A TWO OR THREE K PROGRAM.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

BUT, UH, IF THE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE HAVE CONSIDERED THAT I'VE CONSIDERED IT MYSELF ABOUT REQUIRING DEPARTMENT HEADS TO BE HERE, UH, ON A, UH, AT LEAST ONE OF THE MEETING NIGHTS.

I THINK WHAT WE'LL FIND THEY COME, THEY'LL STAY PROBABLY THROUGH MOST OF THE MEETING, BUT, UH, AND IT MAY TEND TO LENGTHEN THINGS BECAUSE THE TENDENCY IS GOING TO BE TO, UH, GET INTO, GET INTO THINGS BACK AND FORTH AS WE ADDRESS EACH ISSUE.

BUT IF THE BOARD, UH, REQUESTS THAT, THEN WE'LL BE CERTAINLY BE GLAD TO PROVIDE LET'S.

UH, LET'S MS. LEE, LET'S GO OVER THIS AND WORK SESSION ON MONEY, JUST HIT AROUND.

UH, I DO THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY WHICH STILL EXISTS EVEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE, THAT QUESTIONS WOULD COME UP, THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO BECAUSE IT BECOMES EVEN MORE TECHNICAL DOWN ON A PRINTER.

FOR INSTANCE, WITH MIKE AND AN INSPECTION QUESTION, MIKE MAY NOT KNOW THE STATE BUILDING CODES AS OUR INSPECTORS DO, AND HE'S NOT EXPECTED TO KNOW THOSE CODES AS OUR INSPECTORS DO.

SO YEAH, YOU EVEN HAVING THEM HERE, 95% OF YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED, BUT THERE STILL WILL BE SOME THAT YOU'LL FIND YOURSELF IN A QUANDARY ABOUT AND HAVING TO RESPOND LATER.

WELL, I THINK THAT NOTHING, THE BIG DEPARTMENT GOING TO PROBABLY BE DAN, HIS DEPARTMENT ZONING AND POLICE, THOSE THREE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE LARGE ONES.

RICK, WE HAVE NOTHING ON THIS SIDE.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MISCELLANEOUS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY, BUT I THINK THAT I WILL DISCUSS THIS WITH OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS TOMORROW ABOUT MAYBE AT LEAST THEY, THEIR OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENTS, UH, BEING UP HERE TO ANSWER THAT.

AND BEYOND BEFORE, BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET'S LET'S ONCE AGAIN, DISCUSS THIS MONEY AND WORK SESSION ALL IN FAVOR, THE MOTION