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WE COME HAVE A LONG DAY OF WORK TO DO THE BUSINESS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE UPON US, AS WE SHOW, LISTEN, AND, AND DO OUR LIBERATION.
WE TRULY THANK YOU GOD, FOR THE CONCERNS THAT WE WILL LISTEN TO AND TO MAKE DECISION ON.
AND AS WE DO THE BUSINESS OF THIS IMPORTANT HOUR, JUST GUIDE US, DIRECT US AND THE TEACHER US.
SO LORD, TO LISTEN AND TO SPEAK AS YOUR SPIRIT WILL GIVE US OTHERS SO THAT WE CAN LEAVE THIS PLACE IN PEACE AND HARMONY TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY WHAT YOU DESIRE AND WANT IT TO BE IN CHRIST'S NAME.
FIRST THING WE HAVE
NEXT THING IS SOME GREAT PLEASURE.
YOU CAN'T HEAR US AT HOME ON CHANNEL 10.
SO YOU SEE ME LEANING FORWARD.
WE'RE CONDUCTING OUR BUSINESS AND THE OTHER, BUT HE GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE, MIKE, TO COMMEMORATE AND TO RECOGNIZE THE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE RING AND GOLDMAN AND COMPANY DOING BUSINESS.
ONE OF THE REASONS TO GIVES A GREAT PLEASURE IS THAT, UH, WE GREW UP, YOU GO WITH BOYS AND THE PAINLESS BOYS, I SEE DALE COUNTY CARE.
WHERE DOES HE WANT TO SAY IT? BUT, UH, WE USED TO RIDE HORSES TOGETHER AND, UH, DID A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
MY BROTHER, JOHN
SO THE FIRST MOVES THERE ONCE IN A WHILE, LET THEY GO.
WHEN IT WAS GREAT, FUN AS A KID TO GO AND WRITE AND NAILS, IT MUST BE RAYMOND, GO LET US BOYS COME IN AND GO THROUGH THE SURPLUS ARMY CANTEENS AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.
AND MAN, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE DISNEY WORLD DISNEY LAND.
IT WASN'T A DISNEY WORLD, DISNEY LAND OR SOMETHING.
SOMEBODY SAYING, PLEASE GO TO CALIFORNIA.
AND, UH, RAYMOND GOLDMAN'S PLACE WAS ABOUT THE SAME THING TO US.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT HIS FAMILY MEANT A LOT TO THE CITY OF NEWBURGH IS INCREDIBLE AND BE HERE A HUNDRED YEARS WILL INCREDIBLE.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE APPROACHING THE 300 YEARS OF THE EXISTENCE OF THE CITY OF NEWTON, WHICH IS A LONG TIME, I HAD SOMEBODY TO TELL THE RACE IS INCREDIBLE, THAT WE CAN HAVE A CITY IS YOUNG, RELATIVELY NEIGHBOR IN NORTH CAROLINA.
AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT BUSINESS HAS BEEN HERE FOR ONE THIRD OF THE EXISTENCE.
SO LIKE REGULAR PROCLAMATION BEFORE PRESENT, IT SAYS, WHERE IS IT HERE? 2002 MARKS, THE 100 ANNIVERSARY OF RAYMOND GOLDMAN AND KATHLEEN DOING BUSINESS IN NEWBURGH, NORTH CAROLINA, WHEREAS RECOGNITION OF THE FAITH MAX GO DEMONSTRATED IN OUR AREA AND OUR PEOPLE, BUT YOU USE IT.
THE BOUQUETS BUSINESS HERE 100 YEARS AGO, WHEREAS RAYMOND GOVERNMENT AND COMPANY REALLY PROSPERED HERE AND BECAME A FULL FLEDGED SCRAP METAL RECYCLING FACILITY.
WHEREAS DURING THE 1970S AGO, GOLDEN CRANE WAS ONE OF THE EARLIEST CRANE COMPANIES IN EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA DOING WORK AT CARLA FAMILY STADIUM.
RALEIGH ECU HAD GREEN ON THE PORT MOREHEAD CITY.
AND WHEREAS RAYMOND GOLDMAN AND COMPANY WAS AN OUTSTANDING NEIGHBOR AND A LEADER IN PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT, DESERVING OUR SINCERE TRUST.
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WAS HISTORY OF NEWBURN, WHICH STANDS FROM 17.10 CAN NEVER BE TOLD WITHOUT, INCLUDING THE WONDERFUL, POSITIVE, THE FACT THAT RAYMOND GOLDMAN, WHICH OUR CITY WILL BE RIGHT NOW THERE FOR
BEFORE I GO DOWN AND PRESENT THIS TO YOU, I GUESS THEY ONLY DID PATRIOT, UH, DAY A LITTLE SHORT STORY ON BAIL UMBRELLA.
JOHN
BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO NEWBURN AND, UH, HAVING BEING HERE FOR OUR FAMILY.
AND, UH, WE DO APPRECIATE IT BEING IN BUSINESSES LONG.
MY GRANDFATHER MAX GOLDMAN CAME HERE IN THE EARLY PART OF THE CENTURY.
MY FATHER SORT OF GREW INTO IT AND TOOK IT OVER.
AND THEN OF COURSE I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS 34 YEARS.
NEIGHBOR'S BEEN GREAT TO US AND WE'VE ALWAYS LOVED NEWBURN AND, AND ENJOY DOING BUSINESS HERE AND CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS.
AND WE WISH NEWBURN THE BEST AND WE WANT TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON A DEAL.
HE AND I WERE IN SCHOOL TOGETHER.
HE'S NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS.
STEPHANIE, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR A HUNDRED YEARS, TELL RICK HE MUST'VE BEEN LYING ABOUT HIS AGE.
THE NEXT THING WE HAVE TONIGHT IS THE REQUEST AND PETITION CITIZENS IN THAT STATE.
ONCE A MONTH IN OUR MEETING, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORTH.
TELL US WHAT A WONDERFUL JOB, I MEAN, GO UP HERE AND BUY COMPLAINTS OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT HAPPENS TO BE ON YOUR MIND.
NOW I'M NOT TRYING TO PROMPT YOU IF YOU DIDN'T COME HERE FOR THAT ROOKIES.
BUT IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE, THAT'S HERE UNDER THAT ASSUMPTION TONIGHT, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND I'LL ASK YOU TO COME FORWARD.
NOBODY HERE FOR LIFE, SOMEBODY HERE YOU COME FORWARD.
UM, IT DOES INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, THEY DO.
DID YOU WANT TO COME AND SPEAK? I WOULD LIKE TO FOR JUST A MINUTE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, I PICKED UP THE PAPER THIS PAST MONDAY AND FOUND MY NAME AND MONEY IS OWED BY ME FOR TAXES.
AND I CALL THE TAX COLLECTOR AND DISCUSS WITH HER ABOUT THESE ITEMS. AND SHE ADVISED ME THAT, UH, SHE HAD NOT RECEIVED MY TAXES WHEN I HAD PAID THEM.
I PAID THEM ON THE 27TH AND BAILED HIM TO THAT BACK.
ALSO MY TAXES, THE COUNTY TAXES WERE SENT TO CHARLOTTE AND THEY GOT THEM ON THE EIGHTH.
AND, UH, THE CITY COUNSELED THEM BACK TO THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, BOTH COUNSEL WITH FIRST CITIZENS, UH, THE COUNTY ON THE EIGHTH AND, UH, THE CITY ON THE 11TH.
I DON'T FEEL THAT I OWE THESE TAXES INTEREST.
IT IS THAT THEY'VE CHARGED ME.
AND, UH, I'VE GOT MY CANCELED CHECKS EXCEPTED BY THE BIKES AND THE CANCELLATION DATES POSTING ACCORDINGLY
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THEY WERE RECEIVED BY THE BANK FIRST CITIZENS BANK AND RALEIGH ON NOVEMBER THE 11TH.I MEAN, JANUARY THAT I APOLOGIZE.
AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL, AS IN RALEIGH ON THE EIGHTH, BOTH OF THEM WENT TO FIRST CITIZEN, BUT WE HAD TO MAIL HOURS TO CHARLOTTE.
FOR SOME REASON, THE COUNTY TAXES TO CHARLOTTE, THEY WENT TO CHARLOTTE OR RECEIVED THERE AND BACK AND POSTED AND COUNSELED AND CREDITED TO THE COUNTY ATTACK COUNT ALL THE EIGHTH AND THE FIRST CITIZEN IN RALEIGH, ALSO, UH, ACCEPTED AND COUNSELING, UH, TOOK THE MONEY ON THE 11TH, UH, JANUARY YES, SIR.
THERE WAS, UH, INTEREST FOR A DOLLAR AND 50 CENT FOR ONE, A DOLLAR 68 FOR ANOTHER ONE IN $4 AND 14 CENTS FOR 30 I HAVE NO IDEA.
ALL I KNEW, I READ IT IN A NEWSPAPER AND IT WAS A SHOCK.
I WENT AND I GOT MY COUNSELOR CHECKS AND I DO NOT FEEL THAT I OWE THE CITY ANYTHING
THEY RAN NOTICE WASN'T A COMPUTER BUTTON.
I WASN'T AWARE OF ANY DELINQUENCY AND NOBODY HAD CALLED ME AND TOLD ME ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE, UH, I PAID ALL THE TAXES AROUND THE RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS EVERY YEAR.
AND THEN WE HAVE, WHAT SYSTEM DO WE HAVE WHEN WE RECEIVE THESE PAYMENTS IN THE MAIL FROM THE CITIZENS? HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT POST? OKAY.
UM, ACCORDING TO THE GENERAL STATUTES, WE HONOR POSTMARK DATE OF MAIL THAT COMES TO US.
AND IF IT, IN THIS CASE THIS YEAR, IF IT WAS POSTMARKED BY JANUARY THE SEVENTH, THEN WE WOULD NOT CHARGE ANY INTEREST INTEREST BEGAN ON JANUARY THE EIGHTH AND WE'D RUN THROUGH WHAT THE FULL MONTH OF 2% THROUGH THE MONTH OF JANUARY.
SO THEY USE CHECKS THAT WERE AFTER THAT.
ACCORDING TO THE TAX OR RECEIVED THE MAIL AND RECEIVED IT.
AND IT WAS RECEIVED ON THE 10TH OF JANUARY.
WELL, I KNOW FROM HER, IS THAT IT WAS AFTER THE SECOND.
WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THIS LAW, IT WAS THE FIRST THREE DAYS JUST TO GET RID OF THIS
LET'S SEE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCES THAT YOU GET THE BANK CASH.
THE CHECK ON TRACK THREE DAYS FROM THE EIGHT WE'LL GET THE FIELD, BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SPENDING COMES FROM CT.
UM, BUT IT IS MY DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO INFORM YOU OF THE STATUTE AND HOW INTEREST IS CALCULATED.
AND THAT IT'S FOR THIS PARTICULAR REASON THAT THIS STATUTE WAS PREDATED TO AVOID THESE, UM, THESE
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PROBLEMS. BUT ACCORDING BY THE STATUTE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO POSTMARK DAY.ANYTHING AFTER THAT, WE ARE REQUIRED TO CHARGE INTEREST ON THAT TEXT FIELD.
THE ONLY REASON THAT WOULD LEAVE US UP FAR TO MATCH INTEREST WOULD BE DUE TO A CLERICAL ERROR.
I DO KNOW, I DO NOT KNOW THE POSTMARK ON THE LETTER WAS CAN I, CAN I SEE THOSE COUNTS? YES, SIR.
LET ME, LET ME ASK YOU
AND BEFORE WE COULD START THAT WE HAD TO HAVE EVERYTHING POSTED.
I DO KNOW THAT EVERYTHING HAD, THAT HAD BEEN RECEIVED UP TO THAT DAY HAD BEEN POSED.
I DO HAVE DOCUMENTATION ON THE 10TH OF JANUARY WHEN THE TAX CLERK THAT ACTUALLY PROCESSED HIS TAX CHECKS, WHICH WE SEE TWO CHECKS.
ONE WAS FOR A BILL THAT WAS $62 BEING PAID WITH A CHECK FOR $205.
AND THE OTHER WAS FOR TAX PAYMENTS WITH ONE CHECK THE TAX CLERK QUESTION WHEN SHE GOT TO THE FIELDS, NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE THE BILLS DID NOT INCLUDE ANY INTEREST.
AND SHE SAID THAT THE LETTER DID NOT HAVE THE POSTMARK ON IT TO PODCAST AGAIN.
AND NUMBER TWO IS SHE QUESTIONED THE $62 PAYMENT THAT WAS BEING PAID WITH A $205 CHECK.
SHE WAS CALLING THE THING LIKE, YES, SIR.
SHE DID CALL MR. LAND'S OFFICE.
AND I DO HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION WITH ME WHERE SHE DID CALL PAM AND WAS TOLD TO FAX THE CHECK.
AND A COPY OF THE BILL WAS BACK TO HIS OFFICE.
I DO HAVE THAT DOCUMENTATION AND IT SHOWS WHERE THE FAX WAS RECEIVED ON THE 10TH OF JANUARY.
JUST BROUGHT SOME, ASK YOU THE QUESTION AND I'M NOT TRYING, I'M NOT TRYING TO INTERROGATE.
I'M TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
WELL, I WANT TO DO, WHAT'S JUST RUN OUT MR. LAND.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS HAPPENED.
WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS NOW.
WHAT, HOW, HOW OFTEN, UH, WHEN CHECKS ARE RECEIVED WHEN THEY DEPOSIT THE SAME THING.
WELL, ASSUMING THAT YOU DEPOSIT THIS CHECK THE SAME DAY, OR YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN THE DAY AFTER THE CITY'S CHECK ON THIS BACK RIGHT HERE.
AND IF YOU WERE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT ONE PERSON'S TAXES, YOU KNOW, JUST ARBITRARILY, THEN IT WILL AFFECT, IT WOULD HAVE A DOMINO EFFECT ON THOSE OTHER PEOPLE WHO MIGHT'VE HAD THE SAME SITUATION.
SO I SUGGEST THAT WE JUST REFER THE SITUATION TO THIS STUFF AND LET THEM GET WITH THE GENTLEMEN AND WORK IT OUT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO US.
I HIGHLY THINK THAT WE QUALIFIED SITTING HERE AT THIS POINT TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE ACCORDINGLY.
WE'D LIKE TO BE SENSITIVE I'M SURE.
AND WHATEVER IS RIGHT TO BE DONE.
BUT I SUGGEST THAT RIGHT HERE TONIGHT, SINCE WE ARE POLICY MAKING BOARD, IF WE WERE TO CHANGE SOMETHING FOR ONE PERSON, IT WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO AFFECT EVERYBODY.
SO IF YOU, IF WE COULD, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, TURN THIS MATTER OVER TO MR. HARTMAN AND
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ASK THAT WE GET WITH MR. AND TO GET YOUR NAME, MR. LAN AND DONNA, AND WORK THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION NOW, AND THEN IF NEED BE, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.I TH I TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO ME, BUT LOOK, OKAY.
I WANT TO MAKE THIS UP TO THE MOST.
I WANT TO MAKE THE STUFF TO THE MOTION THAT I UNDERSTAND HOW THE MAIL WORKS.
AND THIS HAS NOTHING ON MR. MUSCLES.
I'M NOT TRYING TO CRITICIZE HER OR ANYTHING, BUT I HAVE MEAL THINGS AND THE PEOPLE DIDN'T GET IT FOR TWO WEEKS BECAUSE OF THE MAN.
IT DOES BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE POSTMARK LATE DUE TO POSTAL ERROR AND EVERYTHING, AND ONE CHECK, TWO BOOKS THAT WE GAVE HIM THAT LITTLE FOUR OR $5 BACK IN
I MEAN, WE CAN DO IT WITH A PERSONAL LIABILITY BY $6, ABOUT 12, 10 TO 12, FIVE TO 10 OR $12.
ROBERT, HE'S NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE MONEY HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT HIS NAME WAS IN
UH, I GUESS IT WAS A YEAR OR SO AGO.
I WENT DOWN, I HAD SOME OLD READ THE LICENSE PLATE ON ONE OF THEM AND THEY WOULDN'T LET ME DO IT.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? IS THIS THE WRONG RELIGION OR WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? WELL, YOU BLOCKED.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BLOCKED? WHAT DO YOU IS IN COUNTY TAX? I DO.
SO I GOT HIM AND TELL HIS WIFE HE'D BEEN PAYING BAILS FOR 40 YEARS AND SHE IS ABSOLUTELY
I SAID, WELL, YOU'VE DONE IT 10 MINUTES.
I CAN'T EVEN GO DOWN THERE AND GET MY LICENSE PLATE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I GO DOWN TO THE COUNTY OFFICE AND I DON'T REMEMBER NOW WHETHER IT WAS 80 CENTS OR A DOLLAR AND 30 CENTS.
AND THEY CLAIMED OWED ON ONE OF THE CARS BECAUSE THEY SAID THE TAX PAYMENT WAS LATE.
I WENT BACK TO HER, LOOKED AT ALL THE STUFF.
I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY ON MY OWN TIME, ON MY OWN PHONE AGAIN, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
THAT'S WHAT THEY DID DOWN THERE.
THEN THEY'RE DOING THE BEST THAT THEY COULD.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAIL DID OR WHATEVER.
SO I GO TO REVIEW THE NEXT LICENSE PLATE THING ON YET.
AND THAT SHERIFF AND I PLAYED GOLF COMPUTER, RIGHT? BRIAN, AND A WHOLE CROWD OF PEOPLE IN THE COURSE WITH THE MUD, LIKE, MAN, THEY KNOW I'M THE MAYOR.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU OWN COUNTY TAXES? I SAID, I'VE ALREADY BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD ONCE BEFORE.
SO I WENT DOWN THERE AND AGAIN, IT WAS THE SAME 80 CENTS WITH ALL 31 AIRPORTS.
I SAID, LOOK, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I NEED TO PAY THIS LAND OR WHATEVER.
BUT I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WOULD LIKE TO GET MY LICENSE.
AND THEY TOLD ME, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS AT THE TIME.
THEY HIT DOWN SOME DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT I UNDERSTOOD THAT THOSE KIND OF THINGS HAPPEN.
AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN IT FOR WHATEVER.
IT WAS PARTICULARLY WHEN MY WIFE READY TO BE AT BREAKFAST, BUT I, I WAS IN THAT LAB TWICE TOO.
I JUST DON'T THINK AT ALL, INSTEAD OF TAXES THAT WE PAID ON THE YEARS, BUT I DON'T LIKE ANYBODY WHEREVER IT FELL THROUGH THE CRACK, WHATEVER.
AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU DO THAT, BUT I HATE PAYING COURSE 30 CENTS, 80 CENTS OR WHATEVER IT WAS IN THAT MUCH WAY.
BUT THE POINT IS THAT THESE KIND OF THINGS CAN HAPPEN.
AND THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU WERE NOT GUILTY OF BEING LATE DOES EXIST.
BUT THE POSSIBILITY OF EVERYBODY HERE GOING THROUGH PROCEDURE AND DOING THINGS THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO IT AND BEING CONVINCED THAT YOURS DIDN'T MAKE IT ON TIME, THAT EXISTS ALL OF A SUDDEN.
SO THE PROFIT DILEMMA WE HAVE IS WHAT BARBARA WAS TALKING ABOUT.
AMANDA IS IF WE ARBITRARILY DECIDE, MAYBE IT WAS GOTTEN HUNG UP IN THE MAIL, THIS ALOUD OR WHATEVER.
AND HOW DO WE, WHERE DOES THAT STOP? EVERYBODY THAT DOES HAVE A LIGHT ON TV AND SAY FOR THE CAMERA, IF YOU WANT TO SEND A PIN, IT MESSED THE LAND.
IF HE WAS EMBARRASSED BY BEING IN THE PAPER, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
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AND WHATEVER THE CITY MANAGER AND WHATNOT DECIDES TO DO, THAT'LL BE I'LL ABIDE BY THEIR DECISION.I PROMISE YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT.
MY PROMISE YOU WHAT THEY DO, WHATEVER THEY DO WILL BE IN THE INTEREST OF ABSOLUTE FAIRNESS.
AND SO HOPEFULLY I'VE COME OUT ON WHICHEVER SIDE, YOU KNOW, IT USED TO BE AWAY.
NOW HE'S SEEING WHETHER THE FIRE BURNED A GALLON OR WHATEVER, BUT I MAY NEED.
AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU SEND IT IN, IN GOOD FAITH.
WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THING TOM? UH, ALL ABOUT YOU BROUGHT IT UP THERE ABOUT AUTOMOBILES.
WHY DIDN'T THE CITY ISSUE A PLATE LIKE THEY USED TO YEARS AGO, PAPER STICKER, YOU KNOW, USED TO GO ON YOUR WINDSHIELD.
YOU HAD TO CAR INSPECTION ON ONE SIDE AND YOU'D EXPECT A CITY STICKER ON THE OTHER.
YOU GET $5 A CAR AND YOU GET, YOU GOT 190,000 AUTOMOBILES, NUMEROUS TIMES FIVE.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THOSE PRINTED FOR ABOUT A NICKEL AND A HALF, TWO NICKELS, A PIECE.
AND THE CITIZENS SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO HAVE A BIG BEAR SITTING ON THEIR WINDSHIELD, SHOWING WHERE THEY'RE FROM.
YES, SURPRISINGLY, DID YOU BRING THAT UP? BECAUSE I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WITH A LONG TIME AND USED TO HAVE AT DEMON, THEY WERE PROUD OF IT, MAN, ON THE FRONT BUMPER.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD, GOOD IDEA THAT WE REVISIT THAT I KNOW HE DIDN'T OWN THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
A LOT OF CASES, THE STICKERS, MY NAME IS
AND I'M HERE TO ASK TO, UH, HELP US TO GET, UH, EQUIPMENT FOR THE PARK.
SOME OF YOU GOT A LETTER FROM ME, UM, STATING WHAT I WANTED.
NOW THE PARK HAS BEEN THERE FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS AND WE HAVE ASKED AN ASK AND ASK FOR HELP.
AND YOU ALWAYS SAY THAT YOU CAN HELP US.
NOW WE ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS, WE DO PAY OUR TAX, THE PARK PAID THEIR TAX AND SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE PAID TAX, ART'S SUPPOSED TO COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WE NEVER SEE.
I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO PUT ALL THE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE.
WE'LL ASK HIM FOR HELP TO PUT EQUIPMENT OUT THERE FOR THE CHILDREN AND PLEASANT HILL COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THERE IS OVER A HUNDRED KIDS OUT THERE AND THE PARK IS BIG, BUT IT HAS NOTHING IN THERE FOR THEM TO PLAY WITH.
AND I THINK IT'S A SHAME THAT, UH, AND ALL THE COMMUNITY, YOU FORGET THAT WE ARE THERE.
YOU GOT A LETTER FROM ME THIS WEEK, GOT A LETTER FROM ME.
AND SO DID THE, UM, UH, CITY MANAGER.
UM, AND I TOLD YOU ON THE LETTER, WHAT, UH, WE WANTED AND OF WHAT, UH, WE WERE HOPING THAT YOU COULD DO FOR PLEASANT HILL COMMUNITY.
NOW THE, UH, THE PARK HAS BEEN THERE.
I UNDERSTAND, UM, SINCE THE LATE SEVENTIES AND THERE'S STILL NOTHING OUT THERE FOR THE KIDS THAT PLAY WITH AND FOR THE KIDS AND PLEASANT HEALED TO GO TO A NICE PARK, THEY PARENTS HAVE TO DRIVE THEM LIKE FIVE MILES.
NOT ONLY THAT, WHEN I ASKED FOR HELP, YOU SAY IT'S A PRIVATE PARK.
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POLICE DEPARTMENT BEFORE THEY LEFT QUEEN STREET.I SPOKE TO HER MOST OF THE POWER.
THEY TOLD ME TO SEE HIM THAT HE WOULD GIVE ME SUPPLIES.
WHEN I SPOKE WITH HIM, HE SAYS, OH, GET IN TOUCH BACK IN TOUCH WITH ME IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, NEVER HEARD FROM HIM, NEVER COULD GET UP BACK IN TOUCH WITH HIM.
I WENT TO MRS. UH, ROLL OFF NANCY, FALL OFF.
MAYBE I'M PRONOUNCING HER NAME OR LAST NAME WRONG.
I WENT TO HER THREE DIFFERENT TIME.
THE STORY THAT I GOT, OH, I JUST SENT THE YEAR LIVE BIRGIT.
IN THE LAST TIME I WENT, SHE SAID, OH, I JUST SENT THE YELLOW BIRD.
AND, BUT THAT'S A PRIVATE PARK NOW IS NOT A PRIVATE PARK.
ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GO TO THAT POND AND GO, BUT FROM WHAT THE CITY IS TELLING ME, THAT IS A PRIVATE PARK AND PRIVATE MEAN THAT CERTAIN PAPERS HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO GO TO THAT PARK.
AND ANOTHER THING THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING IS BUSING CHILDREN OUT OF TOWN OUT THERE FOR YEARS.
NOW, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BUS CHILDREN OUT FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS.
I KNOW ABOUT FIVE YEARS, BUT I UNDERSTAND THEY'VE BEEN BUSING CHILDREN OUT LONGER THAN THAT.
NOW, IF YOU'RE BUSING CHILDREN OUT OF TOWN, OUT TO PLEASANT HILL PARK AND USING PLEASANT HILL PARK AS THE DAY CAMP OR SOMETHING, THEN I THINK THE CITY SHOULD HELP TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE FOR THE KEY IS TO PLAY WITH.
NOW, I HAVE SPOKE TO MRS. LEE, MRS. LEE HAS BEEN TO, UH, SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
WE HAVE SPOKE TO HER, WE GOT PROMISES.
AND THAT IS FOR, AS IT'S GOTTEN, I ALSO, UH, ASKED MS. LEE ABOUT, UM, WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN? WHAT WOULD THEY PLAY WHEN SHE STATED THAT THEY PUT STUFF ON THE BUS FOR THEIR CHILDREN? ALL RIGHT.
WHAT ABOUT PLEASANT HILL, COMMUNITY CHILDREN? WHEN THE BUS COME BACK TO THE CITY, THAT MEAN THAT THEY HAS NOTHING TO PLAY WITH.
SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE YOUR CHILD OR YOU DRIVE IN YOUR CHILD, FIVE MILES TO PLAY TO ANOTHER PARK WHEN THERE'S A PARK IS IN WALKING DISTANCE FOR THE KIDS.
BUT NOBODY WANTS TO GO OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING FOR THEM TO PLAY WITH.
NOW WE HAVE SOME MONEY, BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO PUT EVERYTHING OUT THERE, BUT WE ARE ASKING TO HELP BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN BUSTED THESE KIDS.
AND NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT WATER.
NOBODY SAYS NOTHING ABOUT TEXTS.
NOW THERE'S A COUPLE OF BARS OUT THERE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE COUNTY OR THE STATE PUT IT OUT THERE.
I REALLY HAVEN'T FOUND OUT WHO PUT IT OUT THERE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CITY HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING.
AND I THINK THAT'S WRONG BECAUSE I DON'T CARE WHO CHILDREN THEY ARE.
THEY STILL NEED SOMETHING TO PLAY WITH.
AND ALL I'M SAYING THAT WITH WHAT YOU ALL HAS DONE, IT SPORES, BLESSING THE CHILDREN OUT THERE AND HIS, FOR HIS TEXTS.
THEN YOU SHOULD HELP TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE.
NOW THERE ARE MAYBE SOME THINGS THAT I MIGHT, UH, FORGOT TO SAY, BECAUSE AT TIME WHEN I TALK, I GET A LITTLE NERVOUS, BUT, UM, I'M GONNA ASK, UM, JOHN DELAHUNT TO COME UP AND
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HAVE A WORD, BUT I WOULD LIKE A RESPOND FROM THE LETTER THAT I WROTE.IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT.
THE PROPERTY IS ON BY MR. ROBERT STANLEY AND MRS. AT THE HINDRANCE.
NOW WE LEASE THE PORT FROM THEM AT LEAST.
WHO IS WE? WHO IS WE? WHO HAS THE AGREEMENT? ACTUALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M CERTAINLY NOT WEIRD WHEN WE, WHEN YOU SAY WE, THAT MAY MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
SO IT'S THE, IT'S THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT WHAT HAPPENS USED TO GO LAND OWNERS ALLOW THE COMMUNITY, GAVE THEM THE PRIVILEGE TO DEVELOP A PARK THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, AND IT HAS BEEN SOME THINGS, ONE CORRECTION, BUT YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO WAKE VISIBILITY.
I MEAN, WHEN I MET WITH HIM AND HE TOLD ME ABOUT THE BLESSING OF THE KIDS AND THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED, WHAT I DO IS TELL, IS REFERRED TO THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT ALSO ABOUT THE WATER AND TEXAS.
BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT, OF THIS ASSUMPTION THAT YOU WERE WORKING WITH THIS THE HARDEST, I REALLY AM NOT AWARE OF WHY CHILDREN, THE BUS, THEIR BUS FROM NEWBURGH TO PLEASANT HILL.
BUT YOU KNOW, THIS, THE HARDEST ONE CAN ADDRESS THAT.
I REMEMBER WHEN YOU MENTIONED IT TO ME, I WAS SURPRISED MYSELF.
WHY, WHY WOULD IT BE BUS FOR NEW WORLD FIRST? BUT ANYWAY, MR. HARDER SON IS THE ONE WHO CAN ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR THING.
AND WHEN YOU TELL ME ABOUT IT, I REFER YOU TO YOUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
BUT YOU CAN'T HOLD MOST THE HARDEST TO, UH, RESPONSIBLE FOR TOO MUCH BECAUSE HE JUST CAME IN THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
WHAT? NOT EVEN A YEAR YET, RIGHT? I'M SAYING I REFERRED YOU TO THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND IN WHAT THIS BAR TALK NOW, AT ONE POINT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT PUTTING A BASKETBALL COURT OUT THERE.
IT SENT SOMEBODY FROM HER RECREATION DEPARTMENT, SUPPOSEDLY PUT UP A BASKETBALL, GO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVER HAPPENED, BUT I KNOW THAT IT NEVER DID FOR THE CONCRETE.
I AM DEFINITELY AN AGREEMENT, BUT KNOW THEY OWN THIS BASKETBALL COURT THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE.
IT'S LIKE MAYBE SOMEBODY KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY PUT AN OLD CORD OUT THERE CALLED ONCE THEY WAS IN MY YARD PLAYING.
AND I WENT WELL, WHEN I WOULD GO OUT.
AND WHEN I COME BACK, THERE'S 12 OR 13 KIDS IN MY YARD PLAYING BECAUSE MY GRANDSON HAD A BASKETBALL HOOP AT THE END.
FINALLY, I GIVE IT TO THEM AND TOLD THEM TO PUT IT IN THE PARK THEY DID.
NOW, SINCE THEN, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A COUPLER OTHER OUT THERE THAT KIDS HAVE TAKEN OUT OF THEIR YARDS OR WHATEVER.
BUT ANOTHER THING THAT I WANT TO KNOW SINCE THE, UM, CITY'S LESSON, THE CHILDREN OUT THERE WHO GAVE YOU A CONSENT OR PERMISSION TO BUS THEM OUT THERE.
AND IF SOMEONE GAVE YOU CONSENT OR PERMISSION AND NOBODY OWNED UP TO IT, THAT THEY GAVE YOU PERMISSION, THEN WE WANT A COPY OF THAT.
SO YOU OBJECTED TO CHILDREN BEING TAKEN TO THE PLAYGROUND.
I GUESS THAT WHAT IT IS, IT'S NOT THAT I'M OBJECTIVE.
THE CHILDREN PLAYING, UH, GOING TO THE PLAY PLAYGROUND IS THE IDEA THAT YOU ARE BLESSING THE CHILDREN THERE WITHOUT PERMISSION.
BUT NOT ONLY THAT, LET ME FINISH MY THOUGHT.
SO, SO I JUST SAID, I'M NOT OBJECTING FOR THE CHILDREN GOING THERE, BUT IF THE CHILDREN GO THERE, THEN LET THE CITY HELP TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE FOR THEM TO PLAY.
THEY'RE GOING THERE FROM SOME OTHER PART OF THE CITY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING.
CAUSE I'M CERTAINLY NOT OPPOSED TO ALL THE THINGS THAT SHE SAID OTHER THAN THE BUS IN PART.
AND I GET TO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT THERE'S ONE LITTLE KEY PIECE THAT I THINK IS MISSING HERE.
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SORRY.UM, SOMEBODY A LOT WISER THAN ME ONCE SAID, IF YOU FAIL TO PLAN, YOU PLAN TO FAIL.
AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH THIS SITUATION.
UM, IT'S NOT, UH, IF IT'S NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT SITUATION.
IT WAS NEVER PUT TOGETHER RIGHT.
THERE IS NO FORMAL AGREEMENT OF ANY KIND.
THERE'S NOTHING IN WRITING OF ANY KIND.
THERE'S NO MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OF ANY KIND.
SO W HOW DO YOU WORK THIS OUT? I MEAN, IT'S BEEN QUITE CONFUSING.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE DISCOVERED AMERICA, LEIF ERIKSON, THE CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A MESS REALLY.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE HER SAYING THAT I CAN'T BE HELD THAT ACCOUNTABLE, BUT I FEEL ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE CITY RESIDENTS.
IT'S, UH, THE, THE, UH, PROBABLY THE LAST GROUP OF, OH, THE LAST COMMUNITY THAT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, I THINK AS FAR AS I KNOW, SO IT'S NOT A GOOD SITUATION THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE KIND OF FACILITIES THAT EVERYBODY FINDS THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE CITY.
AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR PARKS AND WOULD LIKE TO BE PROUD OF THAT ONE TOO.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO A WHOLE LOT IF WE DON'T COME TO SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT AS TO USE ABILITY OF THE PARK, WHAT WE CAN PUT IN THE PARK, WHAT WE CAN FOR HOW LONG AND SO FORTH.
NOW, BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2001 TO SEPTEMBER 17TH, EXACTLY.
I MET WITH, UH, MRS. MONTGOMERY AND A FEW OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS AT MACEDONIA CHURCH WITH THIS, WITH THE EXPRESS INTENT OF, UH, INTRODUCING MYSELF TO THE GROUP AND ALSO TO TALK ABOUT CURRENT SITUATION IN THE PARK, WHICH WE DID FOR A LITTLE WHILE ANYWAY.
BUT BEFORE I LEFT, I SUGGESTED THAT THERE'D BE A SUB COMMITTEE FORMED IN ORDER TO WORK OUT AND TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES, CURRENT SITUATION, AND WHAT CAN BE DONE IN THE FUTURE NOW THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.
SO REALLY IN ESSENCE, WE'VE LOST ABOUT SIX MONTHS BECAUSE I WENT THERE WITH THAT IDEA OF THEY SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE, TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES.
WELL, NOT, NOT AT THAT MEETING, BUT IN THE FUTURE WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE, WHATEVER THE BALL WAS IN THEIR COURT.
AND I STAND HERE STILL TODAY DOING THIS TONIGHT WITH THE SAME IDEA THAT EXCEPT THE MEDIA NEEDS TO BE FORMED TO ADDRESS WHAT IS GOING ON, WHAT USED TO GO ON AT THE PARK, CURRENT SITUATION AND FUTURE EXPECTATIONS.
AND THAT MAKES THEM ASK QUESTIONS, FORMULATE ALWAYS NUMBER ONE, THAT IS A PRIVATELY ON THE PARK.
DO WE HAVE PRECEDENT OR DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FURNISH EQUIPMENT INTO A PRIVATE PIECE OF PROPERTY? WELL, WE CAN PROBABLY GIVE YOU PUT MY DESK NOT ATTACHED TO THE PROPERTY.
LIKE IT GOALS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE CAN'T PUT ANYTHING.
THE LAST 1:00 AM I ASKING, HAVE WE DONE THAT? THERE IS THERE'S ONE BASKETBALL GOAL IS IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE TYPE OF, OF BASKETBALL APPARATUS OR AREA IN PLAY ON THAT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO ESTABLISH WHETHER WE HAVE PRECEDENT.
IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DOES, PROBIOTIC EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD GO ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? IF WE CAN DO IT, IF WE HAVE NEVER DONE IT, THEN WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO? YES OR NO.
AND ALL I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS DO WE, AS A CITY, HAVE WE PROVIDED EQUIPMENT ON CITY PROPERTY, IN OTHER WORDS, PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHICH
I DIDN'T BUY AN INDIVIDUAL, SO WE'RE NOT.
SO WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT BEFORE WE CAN DO IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE KIDS HAVE SOMETHING TO PLAY.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE IN THAT I BELIEVE IN KIDS HAVING GOOD FOR MY SOUL BODY AND THE OLD BUSINESS.
AND I LIKE TO KNOW LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH TO KNOW THAT THEREFORE PLEDGE MAN WAS THE CITY OF DAVID, WHETHER THE LAST ONES AND THE, THE FIRST ONES OUT OF HERE, I WOULD LOOK AT ALL THAT BEING SAID, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS COME UP WITH A WAY TO MAKE WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN HAPPEN.
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO SLEEP WHAT IT IS THAT WE CAN DO IF WE CAN'T DO IT, BUT WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE BEING ABLE TO DO IT.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THE THERMAL WAS INVOLVED IN, NOTHING WAS A GREAT THING, WAS LEADERSHIP, CRAVEN MONEY THAT THEY RAISED AND THAT EQUIVALENT PAINTBALL.
AND I DONATED SOME DO IT MYSELF OUT HERE AND STAND AND WHY THAT'S A GREAT THING, PRIVATE MONEY
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NOT SAVE ANY MONEY OR ANYTHING ELSE.AND THE CHALLENGE WAS PUT OFF FROM THAT LEADERSHIP GROUP TO THE NEXT GROUP COMING IN RIGHT NOW BEHIND ME TO DO A SIMILAR KIND OF A SIMILAR PROJECT AND DO IT.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE IT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE MAY HAVE FOUND PRODUCT.
AND THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY THAT I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE IN THE SENSE THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT IN SUCH A MANNER WITH THE RIGHT WAY, DON'T DO SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE REALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE US A SAFETY, BUT STILL MAKE IT HAPPEN.
SO I'D LIKE YOU TO DO WHAT THURMAN THURMAN IS A TRUE EXPERT IN THE FIELD OF RECREATION.
THURMAN REALLY CARES ABOUT FOLKS AND GETTING THINGS FOR THEM AND THEY WON'T.
AND IF HE IS, I ASKED YOU ALL TO PUT TOGETHER TO SET THE BABY, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT HE COMMITTED, PROUD, WHATEVER HE DOES APPRECIATE.
SAY TO KIKI, WHAT THERMA DOES NOW WAS HE WILL TAKE YOU TO THE, TO THE RESULT.
AND HE ALSO, HE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE WATER BILL.
WELL, I'VE SUGGESTED THAT AT LEAST DURING THE SUMMERTIME, WHILE WE'RE OUT THERE ABOUT THE BUSING PART, UM, THAT WE'RE WILLING TO PAY, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
WE'RE WILLING TO PAY THE WATER BILL DURING THE TIME THAT WE HAVE SUMMER CAMP.
NOW I'VE CHECKED WITH MY STAFF ON A NUMBER OF CASES.
I ASKED HIM MORE THAN ONCE ABOUT BUSING CHILDREN, THE ONLY CHILDREN THAT ARE BUSTED AT PLEASANT HILL OURS.
WHEN WE PICK UP CHILDREN TO TAKE HIM TO OTHER ACTIVITIES SUCH AS BOWLING AND SKATING AND FIELD TRIPS.
AND SUCH AS THAT, THE CHILDREN COME FROM THE COMMUNITY IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE FIVE SITES DURING THAT SUMMER, THEY CAN'T PROGRAM ABOUT 250 YOUNG PEOPLE.
AVERAGE IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 35 TO 50 ON ANY GIVEN DAY AT THOSE FIVE LOCATIONS.
I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT IT WOULD BE WHO BUS TO BUS, A GROUP OF CHILDREN FROM SAY, HENDERSON PARK OR ANY OTHER PART TO PLEASANT HILL PARK.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE DOING THAT.
AND I BEGIN, I'VE ASKED MORE THAN ONCE A PROGRAM OUT THERE, THE TASKS ON THE CAMP OUT ON THE PLEASANT HILL.
WE, WE GO OUT THERE AS A STAFF IN THE PARK AND WHEN WE'RE NOT IN THE PARK AND THE CHILDREN ARE AWAY FROM THAT SITE, THEY'RE AT THOSE EXTRA ACTIVITIES THAT I JUST MENTIONED, LIKE CHILDREN, WE'RE TAKING THE TRIP, WE'RE TAKING STAFF AND EQUIPMENT THERE, PROGRAM MATERIALS TO RUN THE PROGRAM.
AND THEN THEY HAVE FIELD DAYS AND FIELD TRIPS AND SPECIAL EVENTS, BOWLING SKATING, SUCH AS THAT, SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES.
NOW, MOST OF THE CHILDREN, THEIR PARENTS EITHER BRING THEM TO THE SITE.
SOME OF THEM WALK TO THE SIDE.
NOW I HAVE BEEN LIVING WHERE I AM FOR FIVE YEARS.
AND IN THAT FIVE YEARS, THESE TWO AND THREE CITY BUSES, ACTIVITY BUSES, WHITE, RED, RIGHT.
GOT ACTIVITY OVER THE FRONT OF THE BUS THAT GOES OUT THERE.
THEY HAVE TO PASS MY HOUSE ONE TO THE PARK.
THEY PASS MY HOUSE, COMING BACK TO NEWBURGH.
SO DON'T SAY THAT IT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE IT IS TRUE.
AND WHAT I WILL DO FROM NOW ON, I WILL TAKE THE LICENSE PLATE, THE NUMBER OF THE BUS AND ALL OF THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO STAND UP HERE AND TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT I KNOW.
AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, IT'S NOT TRUE.
NO, I'M NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S THE FACT MISSILE DESPERATE.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT THE BUSES COME OUT HERE, WHAT ARE THEY DOING AFTER THE BUSES? GETTING THEM PLAYING? WHAT? OCULUS THE PLANE.
BUT WHAT IS YOUR NAME? WHAT'S THE RAIN.
WHAT DID YOU THINK CHILDREN DO WHEN THEY GET OFF THE BUS? WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.
I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU'RE GOING THERE TO GET KIDS OFF THE BUS OR WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO GET A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
I WAS TRYING TO DO, WE HAVE BUSES, THE BUSES THAT ARE THREE ACTIVITY BUSES THAT ARE RED AND WHITE.
WE'VE GOT ONE CITY OF NEWBURN RECREATION AND PARKS ACTIVITY, BUSING, AND WE LEASE OTHER ACTIVITY BUSES FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
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THERE WAS A SUMMER PARTY.WELL, LET ME JUST SAY ON BEHALF OF, YOU KNOW, SO I KNOW THAT THIS MONTGOMERY IS VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SHE PAY ATTENTION TO EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON OUT THERE.
SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GET TOGETHER, AS WE SAID, AND TALK ABOUT WHAT KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE FOR PLEASANT HILL PARK AND PUT ON THE PARK AND WHAT KIND OF ACTIVITIES CAN BE IN THERE.
AND IF WE ARE BUSING KIDS THERE, THEN WE NEED TO BE EVALUATE WHY WE WOULD DO THAT AND NOT DO IT HERE RATHER THAN US TO STAND HERE, JUST CONTRADICT.
SHE KNOWS, SHE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
SHE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY COUNCIL OUT THERE.
SO FOR THE SAKE OF, IT'S NOT TO NOT TO GET CAUGHT UP IN THAT, NO, HE ISN'T IS NOT KIND OF THING TO INSULT HER ON ME BY SAYING THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING.
AND IT IS, WE GOT TO JUST STAY WITH, WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE ON PLEASANT HILL FARM.
AND I KNOW THAT IT'S EVERY YEAR IT'S BEEN THIS PROBLEM WITH THE PAR NOT BELONGING TO THE CITY, BUT THAT MIGHT BE IN SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT WE CAN TAKE YOU TO THE COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY COUNCIL CAN PUT ON THEIR POCKET.
THAT KIND OF DAMN SHIT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN WORK OUT.
THESE ARE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS, BUT WE NEVER GOT OFF THE TAPE.
THEY HAVE SOME REAL CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, ACTIVITIES ON THE PROPERTY YOU GO BY THERE.
THE POCKET IS VERY, VERY GOOD.
IT'S CLEAN WHEN IT IS PARKED THERE, THERE, THERE ARE AROUND AND THEY'RE HAVING SOME CONCERNS.
NOW THE COMMUNITY IS HAVING TO PAY THE TAXES AND THE COMMUNITY IS HAVING TO PAY THE WATER BILL AND WHAT THEY DO.
AND THEY DON'T GIVE A LOT OF FUNDRAISERS OR ANYTHING.
I UNDERSTOOD IN THE LAST MEETING, SOMETIME IF SOMEBODY USED THE POCKET, YOU KNOW, QUOTE SOMETHING OTHER THAN COMMUNITY WORK STUFF, THEY GET A MINIMUM FEE THAT'S TO HELP OVERCOME THE EXPENSE.
SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, IF WE JUST SIT DOWN, TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT IT WON'T COME HERE AND GO BACK.
AND THEN YOU REFER BACK TO THE BOARD, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT IT'S TIME FOR US TO CONSIDER WHAT SEVERE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE PRESENT, THE MAYOR.
CAN WE WORK THAT I DON'T? I THINK THAT, I THINK THIS GROUP IS, THIS BOARD HAS PROVEN ITSELF TO BE VERY PROACTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO RECREATION AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE NEEDS TO BE A PARK THERE AND THERE, NOBODY DISAGREES WITH THAT WHATSOEVER, BUT I FEEL THAT WE'RE ON SOFT GROUND, UNLESS WE HAVE EITHER OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY OR A, FROM BINDING CONTRACT BEFORE WE PUT THE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE FIXED EQUIPMENT, BECAUSE I, I'M NOT SURE WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF LIABILITY.
IF WE PUT SWINGS AND THINGS OUT THERE AND SOMEBODY GETS HURT AND WE DON'T OWN THE LAND, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY OUT THERE TO OVERSEE, OR WE DON'T.
ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY AND MAKE SURE THIS STUFF STAYS PAINTED AND EVERYTHING.
THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR MONEY.
IT'S THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY, YOUR MONEY, AND A LITTLE BIT OUT OF IT.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HELPING TO DEVELOP A PARK THERE OR A RECREATION PROGRAM, BUT WE CAN'T, I DON'T THINK IN ALL GOOD CONSCIENCE JUST SUDDENLY TAKE A BIG TRUCKLOAD OF EQUIPMENT OUT THERE AND SET IT UP AND WALK AWAY BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE, IT MAY NOT BE MAINTAINED.
OR EVEN IF, AND BARBARA SAID, WELL, PERHAPS WE COULD TAKE NOT FIXED EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, BASKETBALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WELL, THAT'S FINE, BUT WHAT, WHAT, HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND WE JUST TAKE OUR LOAD OUT THERE EVERY DAY AND THEN GO GET THEM, OR WHO LOOKS AFTER THEM.
AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE THINK THAT IF YOU WILL PUT TOGETHER A SMALL COMMITTEE, IF YOU GET 12 PEOPLE IN THERE, YOU NEVER GET ANYTHING WORKED OUT.
BUT IF YOU GET THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS AND WORK WITH MR. HARDISON, I THINK WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM FOR YOU, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE IT.
WE ARE, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SEEING TO IT THAT IT'S DONE PROPERLY TO PROTECT YOU.
SO YOU DON'T GET TO, TO PROTECT THE TAXPAYERS SO THEY DON'T GET SUED.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS TO GET YOU A PARK AND MAKE RECREATION AVAILABLE TO THE KIDS OUT THERE.
WE JUST HAVE TO AGREE TO WORK TOGETHER AND GET IT DONE PROPERLY.
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GET DONE.IF WE FIGHT BACK AND FORTH, IT'LL, IT MAY STILL EVENTUALLY GET DONE, BUT IT'LL TAKE A LOT LONGER.
SO IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING THE COMMITTEE TOGETHER, MEET WITH MR. HARDISON, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY THOUGH, IF WE CAN, REALLY, IF WE WENT OUT THERE AND SET UP SOME EQUIPMENT, WOULD WE BE IN THAT, BUT COULD THEY THEN SUE US IF SOMEBODY FELL.
AND ALSO, I DO KNOW, I DO KNOW ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY IN CARTERET COUNTY, WHERE THE STATE SPENT LIKE A MILLION BUCKS DEVELOPING A LAKE AREA ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND 30 DAYS LATER, THE GUY PUT UP NO TRESPASSING SIGNS AND THE NEIGHBOR SUED AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO GET IT MADE PUBLIC.
AGAIN, ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC, WENT TO COURT.
THE MAN WON THE STATE WAS OUT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS DEVELOPING THIS PROP PARK PROPERTY DOWN AROUND MARSHALL, AND IT WAS GONE.
SO WE WOULD NEED A CONTRACT AT THE VERY LEAST.
AND I PERSONALLY AM NERVOUS ABOUT THAT UNLESS THE CITY ACTUALLY OWNS THE PROPERTY AND WE CAN REALLY DEVELOP A PARK.
SO IF, IF YOU WORK TOGETHER, I THINK WE CAN DO IT.
LOOK, CAN I JUST FIND OUT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, WHAT OUR LEGAL SITUATION WOULD BE? I'M SORRY.
UH, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY A CLASSIC EXAMPLE IS ABSURD, BUT IT'S TRUE.
THAT'S SOMEBODY ELSE OR SOME EX
AND THE INDIVIDUAL X DECIDES TO DO 15 FOOT
I MEAN, 15 FEET DEEP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY THAT A KID COULD FALL DOWN THIS OR THAT, BUT COULD WE PREVENT THE GUY FROM DOING IT? AND THEN WE MAY DECIDE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THE PROPERTY TO MAKE IT THIS WAY OR THAT, AND HE MAY NOT AGREE THAT HE IS BROWN.
SO IT'S, I MEAN, YOU COULD SAY A CAN OF WORMS IF WE DON'T BREAK UP.
AND I HAVE SPOKE TO MRS. HENDRIX, CHRIS SARINA.
SHE SAYS, AS FAR AS PUTTING EQUIPMENT OUT THERE FOR THE KIDS WOULD BE FINE.
SHE SAYS IT LONG, YOU DIG A HOLE AND PUT CONCRETE IN THE HOLE TO HOLD THE GOLD STEADY, FINE, BUT SHE DID NOT WANT IT CONCRETE OVER BECAUSE WHENEVER WE GET THE LEASE OR WHATEVER, WE COULD WALK AWAY, AND THAT WOULD BE HER RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE THAT CONCRETE MOVEMENT.
LET'S SEE, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
IT SHOWS THAT THE ORGANIZATION IS NOT IN A HOSPITAL.
THEY HAVE EQUIPMENT ON PREMISES, EVEN IF WE HAD THE ABILITY TO DO IT, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO BE WORKED OUT.
MR. FREEZE, THE MAYOR OR THE CITY ATTORNEY, JUST MISSION.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU GOT TO WORK OUT, UH, ISSUES REGARDING OWNERSHIP.
THEN ANOTHER PRIVATE PERSON OWNS IT.
THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT LEASE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM LEASE IS EXECUTED, SIGNED BY ALL THE PARTIES, EXPRESSING EVERYBODY'S, UH, RIGHTS AND OBLIGATIONS.
AND, BUT THE PARAMOUNT, EVEN IF WE COULD, WE WERE NOT IN A POSITION TO DO IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY, LET ME CUT.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT BEN, WHEN THOSE KIDS IS OUT THERE, WHO IF ONE GET HURT, WHO IF THE PARENT'S GONNA COME TO PLUS THEN HE'LL COMMUNITY TO, TO PAY.
SO DON'T TELL ME NOTHING ABOUT WHAT, UH, OH, THE CITY THE STATE CAN DO.
CAUSE ITS GOALS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
ALSO, BECAUSE IF ONE OF THOSE KIDS THAT YOU PASS OUT THERE GET HURT.
THE, THE PARENTS IS NOT GOING TO COME TO THE CITY OR THE STATE OR THE COUNTY.
THEY GOT TO COME TO PLEASANT HILL COMMUNITY PEOPLES PEOPLE'S FIND OUT, OH, GOING TO PAY THIS DOCTOR, BILL.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS SEE, IN ORDER TO EVEN ABORT, ALL THIS PROBLEM ISSUES HAVE
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TO BE WORKED OUT.WHEN YOU DID WORK THEM OUT, AS OPPOSED TO YOU TO DATE, YOU DID WORK THEM OUT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT AT LUNCH TIME, THE KIDS CAN BOARD A BUS, GO TO GROW WITH FIELDS, HAVE LUNCH, AND THEN THEY ARE BROUGHT BACK THERE.
ALL, NO KID BROUGHT FROM OTHER AREAS ON A BUS OUT TO AND THAT'S WHY I LEFT.
I WENT AND MADE A PHONE CALL TO SOMEONE WHO WORKED ON THAT PROGRAM.
AND I'VE BEEN OUT TO THE PARK.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE YOUR PEOPLE THAT YOU SAY ARE COMING FROM OUTSIDE CAN MAKE, TO MAKE TWO CALLS FIRST.
WE GOING TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE?
I THINK I'VE SAID ENOUGH AND
MEAN ANY TIME, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY ONE COME.
WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEETING EVERY MONTH.
AND HOW OFTEN DO ANYBODY COME? AS I SAID, YOU FORGET THAT PERSONNEL IS THERE.
WELL, I MEAN, THE REASON I'M ASKING IS IF WE COME BACK AND
ANYBODY ELSE? THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
I JUST LACKED THE AI ONE POINT THAT, UH, GAVE US YOUR NAME, MY NAME, JOHN DELAHUNTY.
AND UM, I WAS RAISED IN INDIA 11 YEARS.
AND, UH, MY COMMENT IS THAT, UH, ALL THE MONEY LATER STATED THAT IF THE KIDS WERE BUSED OUT THERE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION.
IT'S NOT, IF, IF THEY WERE BUSED OUT THERE, THEY WERE WASHED OUT THERE.
AND AT THIS POINT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT.
AND I BELIEVE IN PROACTIVE, I BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT KIDS WERE BUSED OUT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WOULDN'T.
I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AS MAKING THAT PARTICULAR POINT.
I'M NOT HERE TO CHALLENGE IT, BUT I HATE FOR SOMEONE TO TELL ME WHAT'S BEING DONE.
AND I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE, TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO WORK IN THE PROGRAM AND THEY TOLD ME WHY THEY DIDN'T BRING KIDS FROM NEWBORN TO PLEASANT HILL.
IT BROUGHT BUSES OUT THERE TO TAKE THE KIDS TO LUNCH AND BRING THEM BACK IN THE AFTERNOON.
OR THEY TOOK THEM ON FIELD TRIPS.
MY CHURCH, MACEDONIA MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, THE DIRECTOR OF THE PROGRAM OUT THERE NOW, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE SPECIFICS ABOUT IT, BUT THEY CAME TO THE TRUTH AND WHAT THEY CAN WITHOUT TRUTH.
WHEN THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER FOR THE KIDS CAN COOL OFF FOR THE TRIP.
SO THE KIDS WERE OUT HERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
I JUST WANT TO CORRECT THAT ONE ON YARD.
SO IT'S NOT A METAL EAR, BUT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I COULD THROW SITUATION TOO, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BUT I WENT, THE OTHER POINT IS THAT I BELIEVE IN PRO ACTIVE.
NOW WE TALKED ABOUT PROACTIVE NOW.
SO WHAT THE CITY CAN DO TO HELP US TO REACH THAT GOAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAWS ARE.
I LEARNED SOMETHING TONIGHT ABOUT HOW THAT LOGS HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT I'VE SEEN LAWS, BUT THEY ARE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU CAN LOOK AROUND CERTAIN
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AND FEES, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S ALL WE ASK YOU TO DO.JUST GIVE US A, GIVE US YOUR BEST EFFORT.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, KNOWING YOU ALONE.
AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY DID HELP GET AROUND THESE ISSUES BY CIRCLING THAT COMMITTEE BECAUSE YOU GOT THE, UH, YOU CAN DO IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE SKILLS.
I MEAN, THESE ISSUES CAN BE WORKED OUT, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO ENTER INTO SOME KIND OF BALLOT.
LISA, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THAT COMMITTEE, THE MINOR DETAILS HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT BY SOME GROUP.
AND, UH, I THINK YOU CAN HELP WORK THIS OUT BECAUSE YOU GOTTA GET THAT PARK IN A POSITION WHEREBY IF SOMEONE COMES UP WITH A PLAN TO GIVE SOME EQUIPMENT, ALL OF THEM WILL BE STRAIGHTENED OUT.
YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? THE COMMITTEE HAS TO BE FORMED IN A WAY, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A ONE MAN, FOR ME, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THERE ARE CERTAIN ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT.
AND I THINK THAT BETWEEN THE RECREATION DIRECTOR SEE THEIR ATTORNEY, THEY CAN GET YOU ON THE RIGHT TRACK AS FAR AS LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND IT CAN BE DONE AND YOU CAN, OKAY, THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
THIS IS ALL WE'VE BEEN ASKING.
WELL, WE FEEL THAT WE SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE TO GET TO THIS POINT.
SOMEBODY ASKED ME AFTER YOU DIDN'T HELP US.
THAT'S ALL WE ARE SAYING TO YOU IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING TO YOU.
IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THE PHONE, WE ALL AGREEING WITH YOU, WE WOULD LIKE TO HELP YOU.
AND THEN IF IT'S A REASONABLY COMMUNICATE HERE, BUT IF WE CAN GET A COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND SIT DOWN, MR. HARDISON, THE BOARD OF ALL THE MEN IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH ARE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER CAN BE DONE TOWARDS ESTABLISHING.
WE'RE NOT ASKING ANYTHING ELSE.
WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO GIVE US YES.
WORK WITH US THROUGH PROACTIVE.
WE CALL IT PROACTIVE MAN, BUT PROACTIVE WORK AND WORKING TOGETHER TO HELP SOLVE OUR PROMISE.
THE KEY IS THAT HAVE A HALF EQUIPMENT AND HAVE A PLAYGROUND.
AND HAVE YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS POLL, THIS MAYOR AND THIS POLEWARD WON'T, THE KIDS DID BRAZE APPEAL TO HAVE A PLAYGROUND.
THEY HAVE EQUIPMENT AND HAVE A NICE PLACE TO PLAY AND ALL THAT.
DO YOU BELIEVE WE WON'T PAY? YES, SIR.
IF THE COMMUNITY WANTS AND WE WON'T, ALL WE'RE SAYING IS WE WORK TOGETHER AND THE WAY WE DO IT, IT'S THE DEMAND IS EXPERT AT MAKING THESE THINGS COME ABOUT.
AND THAT'S HONESTLY KNOWS THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
THURMAN KNOWS THAT HE'S HEARD THE COMMUNITY DECIDING THAT.
AND I'LL JUST DO IT IS ASKING, HE'S GIVING ME A RECIPE TO MAKE THE CAKE, BUT THE GALA COMMITTEE
PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE CITY, IT MIGHT BE PASSING THROUGH THE COMMUNITIES TO BE PROTECTED FROM LAWSUITS, FROM DANGER, FROM ANYTHING ELSE.
EVERYBODY IS, YOU KNOW, DESERVES THE SAME PROTECTION CYCLE.
AND SO WE WANT TO DO IT IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, UH, THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT IS TO WALK AWAY.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL I DON'T WANT TO SAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S TAKEN SO LONG.
THAT SORT OF THING IS LIKE THIS LADDER.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE SEEN THIS LETTER.
DID HE COME TO CITY HALL OR DATED SNEAKER OR MR. MAYOR? THE POINT BEING THAT WE MIGHT BE ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL, BUT WE'LL WAKE UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
MR. MAYOR, UH, MR. SAMPSON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HERE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO HIM TOO ABOUT PARTICIPATION IN THIS PART.
WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD YOU A PARK AND YOUR FIVES, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET TOGETHER WITH THE RECREATION DIRECTOR, PUT THE KITTY COMMITTEE TOGETHER AND FIND OUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
LEGALLY SHARON, STAND THERE AND IT'LL GET DONE.
WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THAT
WELL, WE JUST APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN HERE TO KNOCK AND PRESENT OUR CASE AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
AND, UH, AND WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN TO THIS LEVEL, BUT SHE HAS GOTTEN TO THIS LEVEL.
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KNOW, AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP US TO REALIZE OUR GOALS FOR OUR KIDS IS IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WHATEVER YOU CAN HELP US THROUGH THE COMMITTEE TO, TO, TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
ANYBODY ELSE? NO, I'M GOING TO BE SHORT.
I LIVE AT 3,109 MADISON AVENUE.
I BE RESIDING AT 31 0 9 MADISON AVENUE.
ALMOST 14 YEARS BOUGHT A YEAR AGO.
ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT NO.
WELL, WE PUT IT TO DO BREATH TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A DATE THAT YOU CAN MEET WITH THE COMMITTEE AND REPORT BACK TO US THIS TIME THAT WE CAN MEET WITH YOU AND SOMEBODY FROM YOUR GROUP.
SO I COULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN BY THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, WHICH IS TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
I DON'T MIND DOWN KEVIN, THAT'S IT.
BABA MEANS THE 23RD AND TODAY IS THE NINTH.
CAN WE, CAN WE SAY WE CAN MEET ONE DAY NEXT WEEK? THAT'S A GOOD DAY.
AND WE CAN PUT THE COMMITTEE TOGETHER.
WE JUST WANT IT TO BE, IT COULD BE THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE WITH YOU TONIGHT OR ANYBODY.
THAT'S A FEW PEOPLE AND I'M PERMITTED.COM.
OKAY SO WE CAN MAKE A REPORT BACK TO THE BORDER BOTTOM AND MEETING ON THE 20TH.
AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A REPORT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE, TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
THAT'S THE, WHAT IT IS WE'RE GOING TO DO.
ANYBODY ELSE, IF YOU SEE THAT IN THE CLASS AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VEGA AND DIANE, LOOK FOR ME, GIVE ME A CALL.
CAUSE I'D LIKE TO, I I'M POSITIVE THAT YOU'RE SEEING WHAT YOU PERCEIVED TO BE SAFE AND I JUST WANT TO DARN IT OUT AND SEE WHAT IT IS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SAY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST GIVE ME A CALL.
I DON'T WANT, I'VE TOLD A MAN ONE TIME, GIVE ME A CALL, BUT HIS PROBLEM, IF IT WAS THREE IN THE MORNING AND SURE ENOUGH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE CALLED.
IF YOU GIVE YOU, CALL ME, IF YOU SEE THE PROBLEM, GIVE ME A CALL.
I WANT TO SLEEP, WHATEVER THE PROBLEM.
I'M SORRY, MR. MADISON AVENUE.
I LIVE AT 31 0 9 MADISON AVENUE.
I'VE BEEN RESIDING THERE FOR ALMOST 14 YEARS.
UM, FOR THE LAST PROBABLY I GUESS, ABOUT 13 MONTHS.
SO I MAY KIND OF LACK IN MISERY, UH, HAVE, UH, I'M COMING OUT HERE BECAUSE OF LOUD MUSIC.
I HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT MOVED IN AND ABOUT, I GUESS, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO AT 31 0 7 MADISON AVENUE.
THE PERSON PLAYS LOUD MUSIC, NOT IN HIS HOUSE, BUT OUTSIDE IN HIS, IN HIS TRUCK OR EITHER IN HIS CAR WHEN HE'S WASHING HIS CAR AND TRUCK, THE PERSON HAS AN OPEN AIR GARAGE IN THE BACK.
UM, HAS TRAFFIC COMING BACK AND FORTH ALL TYPES OF NIGHT, AGAIN WITH LOUD MUSIC, ALSO MUSIC THAT BASICALLY SHAKES MY HOUSE.
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TALKING TO THIS PERSON ON MANY OCCASIONS.I TRIED TO TALK TO THE PERSON.
THEN WHEN THE PERSON STARTED GETTING BELLIGERENT, YOU KNOW, UH, I, I STOPPED TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH HIM AND STARTED CALLING.
AT LEAST IT SHOULDN'T BE AN EXTENSIVE RECORD ON, ON, ON FILE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I BEEN CALLING ON MANY OCCASIONS.
SOMETIMES I DIDN'T EVEN, I DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER ABOUT CALLING BECAUSE I HAVE HAD CALLS SO MUCH.
UM, THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN ESCALATING.
AND, UM, TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON IS, YOU KNOW, HE DOES A LOT OF DRINKING.
AND SO IT IS A LOT OF, UH, DRINKING LOUD MUSIC THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SELF-CONTROL HAVEN'T BEEN WAKING UP AT NIGHT BECAUSE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
UM, HIS WIFE OR GIRLFRIEND OR WHOEVER HE'D BE BEATING ON, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THEY CALL THE COPS.
THE COPS TAKE SO LONG TO RESPOND.
THEY HAD A LOT OF TIMES THEY COULD SEE THE POLICEMAN COME AND TURN THE MUSIC DOWN.
UM, I EVEN HEARD THAT, UH, THE PERSON CALLED OUT IN THE BACKYARD TO TELL HIM TO TURN IT DOWN.
WHEN THE POLICEMAN CALLED, I HAD REQUESTED THAT THE POLICEMEN COME EITHER ON THE BACK ROAD OR EITHER, UH, COME WITH AN UNMARKED CAR.
YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN WE HAD AN INCIDENT ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON, UM, THE POLICEMAN WAS CALLED AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PERSON HAD BEEN TICKETED BEFORE FOR THIS LOUD MUSIC.
I'VE TALKED, I'VE TALKED TO ALTIMA, RHINO ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS ABOUT THE SITUATION, UH, NOT ONLY THE LOUD MUSIC, BUT THE OPEN CAR GARAGE, BECAUSE PERSON BUILDS ON RACE CARS AND HE'LL PRANK THEM, CALLS UP ANYTIME OF THE NIGHT.
UM, THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE ROAD SOMETIME THEY DRIVE THEM ON THE, UM, THE ROAD, UH, THE STREET ON MADISON AVENUE.
AND, UM, THEY KNOW US FROM THE CAR, UH, ENGINES, THE SMELL OF THE GAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, ALL THE MORAINE WAS SUPPOSED TO TRY TO GET SOMEONE, UM, SENT BY THE, YOU KNOW, KINDA INVESTIGATE THIS, TO SEE ABOUT THE OPEN AIR GARAGE, UM, EVERYTHING.
UM, SO I MEAN, IT'S JUST BEEN KIND OF LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO LISTEN TO MUSIC AND I USED TO LIKE LISTEN TO THAT TYPE OF MUSIC, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T REALLY LISTENED TO ACADEMIES IN 1987 NOW, LIKE LISTEN TO MY CHURCH MUSIC.
UM, AND I'LL BE OUT, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF FUNNY THING ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION IS LAST SUNDAY WHEN, UH, HE FOUND IT, HE PUT UP A BIG FENCE IN BETWEEN BOTH OF OUR PROPERTIES AND, UM, HE HAD HIS TRUCK ON, UH, YOU KNOW, TRUCK MUSIC ON AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS PLAYING HIS MUSIC REAL LOUD.
AND SO, UM, I HAD A CD WITH A PREY ON IT AND I, I OPENED UP MY WINDOW AND I TURNED THIS PREY ON AND I KEPT PLAYING IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND THEY CALLED THE COPS ON ME.
SO AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME I DID, WE DID TALK TO THE OFFICE OF JOHN SMITH.
THAT WAS THE, UM, OFFICER IN CHARGE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
UM, I FELT THAT ONE OF THE OFFICER CAME UP, I FELT THAT THE PERSON, UM, WAS KIND OF BIASED IN A SENSE, YOU KNOW, I, I FELT THAT WAY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT I WAS TREATED, YOU KNOW, UM, WHICH MY MUSIC WASN'T LOUD AS THE FACT THAT HIS, HIS, UH, THE WAY HE WAS PUTTING UP THE FENCE, THAT WAS RIGHT BY MY WINDOW.
CAUSE I WOULD, PROPERTIES ARE SO CLOSE TOGETHER ANYWAY.
UM, THAT'S WHY I ASKED TO SPEAK TO THE OFFICER IN CHARGE AND OFFICER SMITH CAME AT HIM, HE TALKED TO, UH, UH, MYSELF AND THEN HE WENT OVER AND TALKED TO THEM TO THE OTHER PEOPLE.
THE REASON I ALSO FELT THAT CERTAIN THINGS WOULDN'T BE DONE BEING DONE BECAUSE THIS PERSON WORKS FOR A FUNERAL HOME.
AND, UM, THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, FUNERAL HOMES HAD TO CALL FOR ESCORT SINCE.
SO THEY HAVE, HAVE A GOOD REPORT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO, IN THAT SITUATION, YOU, A FRIEND OR A DIRECTOR, YOU HAVE TO CALL AND SET UP FOR ESCORTS AND STUFF.
SO I, I WASN'T SURE WHETHER THAT POLICE PARTICULARLY A POLICEMEN KNEW THAT PERSON OR NOT, BUT WE DID GET A SITUATION IRONED OUT.
THE OFFICER CAME BACK AND WE TALKED TO THE OFFICER IN CHARGE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
AND SO I, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY HARD FEELINGS.
I JUST EXPRESSED THE FACT THAT I FELT THAT, UH, THAT THE PERSON COULD HAVE LISTENED TO ME MORE WITHOUT JUMPING TO THE CONCLUSION WHERE THEY SAID YOUR MUSIC WAS LOUD.
I SAID, WELL, LOOK, I TOLD HIM THE HOUSES.
HE IS, I SAY I WAS PLAYING MY MUSIC IN MY HOUSE AND THIS PERSON WAS PLAYING THAT MUSIC OUTSIDE IN A TRUCK.
BUT MY THING IS I WOULD LIKE FOR A NEW BERLIN POLICE DEPARTMENT TO UNDERSTAND THE NOISE ALTERNATE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
I, UH, OFFICER SMITH BOUGHT ME A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE, WHICH I READ ON THIS AND UNDERSTAND IT.
AND IT SAYS, UM, ANY LOUD OR KNOWING MUSIC THAT IS PLAYED WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET.
AND I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO OFFICER, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE A HUNDRED FEET, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OF THE LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET.
AND IT HAS OTHER STIPULATION WITHIN THE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS FIRST BROUGHT
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ABOUT BECAUSE PEOPLE WAS PLAYING MUSIC IN THEIR CARS, BE ALLOWED.THAT'S WHY THE ORDINANCE FIRST CAME ABOUT ANYWAY.
AND THIS PARTICULAR PERSON IS PLANNING IN THEIR VEHICLE MOST OF THE TIME.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT COMING FROM THE HOUSE.
THE ONLY FOOD WAS COMING FROM THE HOUSE.
I PROBABLY COULDN'T HEAR IT, BUT IT'S COMING FROM A VEHICLE AND WE ALL KNOW IT'S THAT DEEP BASS.
IT'S NOT JUST THE MUSIC YOU'RE HEARING IS YOU JUST HEARING A BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, LET THE, YOU KNOW, THE VIBRATES WHOLE HOUSE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO COME DOWN HERE AND, YOU KNOW, GET IT ON RECORD AND PROBABLY, UH, GET SOME SUGGESTIONS OR IDEAS OF HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH FURTHER I NEED TO GO OR WHAT CAN I DO.
I MEAN, THIS PERSON IS A PROPERTY OWNER ALSO, YOU KNOW? AND SO, UM, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S PLAYED A LONG ENOUGH THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN TELL, I MEAN, IF YOU CALL THE COP POLICE, THEY MAY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY CONSIDER THE EMERGENCY.
THEY PROBABLY WON'T RESPOND TO ABOUT 15 OR 20 MINUTES SOMETIME BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE, THE MUSIC IS TURNED DOWN AND ALL THEY CAN DO IS GO OVER THERE AND SAY, WELL, LOOK, UH, YOU HAVE A LOUD MUSIC COMPLAINT, YOU KNOW, AND TRY AND GET IT DOWN.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THE POLICE LEAVE, THEN THEY CRANK IT RIGHT BACK UP.
AND, UM, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S ON THE WEEKENDS.
UM, MOSTLY I GUESS WHEN THE PERSON DECIDED TO GET RIGHT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, OFFICER SMITH DID, UH, DUE TO HIS PARTYING.
I TRIED TO SLEEP, UM, ANYTIME, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THE DOOBIE AT NIGHT SOMETIME IS AT 1230 AT NIGHT, ONE IN THE MORNING.
IT DEPENDS ON WHENEVER THEY FEEL LIKE, UH, I MEAN, IT'S ON RECORD A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY, WHEN, WHEN EMMY, WHENEVER THEY FEEL LIKE, UH, I, YOU KNOW, GETTING DRUNK OR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, BECAUSE EVEN, UM, HE WOULD HAVE COME OVER AND BUST THE BOTTLES IN FRONT OF MY YARD BECAUSE OF ME CALLING THE COPS, LIQUOR BOTTLES, BEER BOTTLES, AND THROWING THEM ACROSS MY FENCES, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MADE ALL THE MORAINE HIM ONE TIME BECAUSE HE, I CAME HOME AND THEY HAD CUT MY TREE DOWN THERE, BUT HE EXPLAINED THE LAW TO ME.
THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, LAW IS SO IMPORTANT.
HE EXPLAINED THE LAW AND HOW, HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST ME JUST TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT DAMAGES.
BUT IT SAYS THE FACT THAT THEY DIDN'T BOTHER ABOUT SAYING, ALL RIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR DAM IS HANGING OVER HERE.
THEY JUST CUT THE TREE DOWN, YOU KNOW, SOME PART OF MY PEAK ENTRY DOWN AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M IN IT.
AND THE PERSON IS VERY ARROGANT.
OH, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I'VE HEARD IT.
I HEARD HIM TELL HIM THE OFFICER, YOU KNOW, I'M A BREAK, MAN.
I MAKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, YOU KNOW, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
HE WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT I WAS JEALOUS BECAUSE HE BUYING TRUCKS AND CARS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW? BUT, UH, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN A PROPERTY OWNER EVER SINCE I WAS 28 YEARS OLD, YOU KNOW, 41 NOW 42.
I, I SYMPATHIZE BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WORSE THAN A MAN WORKING ALL DAY, COME HOME.
HE, HE CAN'T SLEEP UNDISTURBED IN PEACE BECAUSE I GET IRRITATED WHEN I HEAR A LOT OF NOISE.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPECT CIVILITY AROUND YOU.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, PEACE IN TWAIN IS NOT DISTURBED WHEN YOU'RE HOME.
AND I JUST THINK WE'VE GOT TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE AS FAR AS PROTECTING PEOPLE'S RIGHTS TO BE UNDISTURBED IN THEIR HOME.
MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS ASK THE CHIEF IS USUALLY HERE.
UH, IF THEY WOULD JUST HAVE SOMEONE TO MONITOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT THEY CAN CHECK THE ACTION.
UH, I'VE TALKED TO MR. CRADLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, HE WAS, UH, SUGGESTED THAT I START A PETITION.
I, I, UM, I WORKED IN AND I GO TO SCHOOL, UM, I'M IN COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO OBTAIN ELECTRONIC ENGINEERING DEGREE.
SO I SPENT A LOT OF TIME AWAY FROM HOME.
AND SO LIKE YOU SAID, THE TIME THAT I DO HAVE IS IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, THAT I CAN RELAX, YOU KNOW, MAINLY ON THE WEEKENDS, A LOT OF TIME, I'M GOING TO CHURCH ALL DAY, YOU KNOW? SO I BASICALLY HAVE ONE DAY THAT I CAN REALLY GET REST, YOU KNOW, AND THAT CHIEF'S NOT HERE.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE RUN INTO THESE SITUATIONS BEFORE WHERE IT WAS ONLINE, PLAYING LOUD MUSIC AND WHATEVER I LIKE TO SAY, WHEN YOU CALL THEM ALL, THEY KEEP QUIET IN THE MOMENT, BUT IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE THERMOSTAT EXPERT AND THE RIDE RATION EXPERT, THE POLICE.
BUT I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS IT WITH HIM.
THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO GET US SORT OF IF NOT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND
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SOUTH GATE, BUT AT LEAST PART OF IT CONVENIENT TO KIND OF THE GALA WITH THE LOCAL COP ON THE BEAT, PROTECT MY AREA.DOESN'T HAVE A LITTLE COMMUNITY TO GET TOGETHER AND SAY, LOOK, LET'S JUST BE NICE TO EACH OTHER IT'S MAN.
BUT HE WAS TRYING TO SLEEP, EAT, APPRECIATE WHAT HE USED TO APPRECIATE SOME MUSIC.
AND AGAIN, I KNOW WHAT YOU MAY KNOW, BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, AND LET HIM PLAY MUSIC DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS OR WHATEVER.
AND YOU HAD TO KIND OF GREAT TO TELL YOU, BUT DIDN'T LET HIM UNDERSTAND THAT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO MAYBE YOUR LIFE, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SOME CURTIS MAYBE KEEP THE BANK DOWN AND JUST SAY WITH POLICE, KNOWING EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY SEE IF HE CAN'T COME, SORRY, I HAD SLACKED UP CALLING BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO NEUTRALIZE IT WITH MY MUSIC, BUT I WAS STILL A WELD, YOU KNOW? CAUSE HE EVEN SAID THAT MR CHRISTIE MAN, TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE CHURCH MUSIC WINS, YOU KNOW, OVERHEADS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, HE CAN'T STAND IT, BUT I HAVE MY, YEAH, WELL LIKE, LIKE I WAS ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE POLICE, THE OFFICER COOK WITH MY NEIGHBOR'S BED TO HIT MY, THE NEIGHBORS WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR MINE.
CAUSE I DON'T PLAY MY OUTSIDE OF MY HOUSE.
A LOT OF TIMES I TURNED MINE UP, UP TO DROWN.
HE IS OUT SOMETIME I MIGHT NOT EVEN WANT TO LISTEN TO MUSIC, BUT I WROTE THE TURN MINE UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU CAN'T HIT MINES OUTSIDE OF MY WALLS.
YOU KNOW, UNLESS I PUT WE'LL SPEAK IN THE WINDOW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, HE HAD GOTTEN SO LOUD AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES I DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE, SO I I'LL RUN, I RUN A SPEAK IN THE BACKYARD AND YOU KNOW, AND TURN IT UP.
SO I ADMIT I DID THAT BEFORE, BUT I HAD, I TALKED TO THE OFFICER ON LAST WEEK AND I SAID, WELL, I WON'T TURN MINE ON AT ALL.
YOU KNOW, I JUST CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, THE CALL.
BUT A LOT OF TIMES I WAS TOLD BY ONE OFFICER AND I HAD, I STARTED WRITING THE OFFICER NAMED DOWN.
I GOT, I GOT A RECORD WHERE I WROTE AN OFFICER NAMED DOWN THERE HAD RESPONDED.
UH, THEY EVEN GOT UPSET BECAUSE WHEN THEY PLAYED THE MUSIC LOUD, I STARTED VIDEOTAPING THEM, PLAYING THE MUSIC.
AND I STARTED OFF ALSO WHEN HE RACES CARS, CAR ENGINES AND STUFF, BACK THERE UP, I STARTED MAKING A VIDEO DOCUMENTATION FOR MYSELF IN CASE WE DO HAVE TO GO TO COURT BECAUSE OF THE FACT.
SO THEY, THEY, THEY GOT AIN'T UPSET WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S NO PROBLEM BECAUSE THAT DID NEUTRALIZE IT SOMEWHAT ALSO.
SO I ADMIT, YOU KNOW, THAT SOMETIMES IT'S A GOOD THING.
YOU KNOW, IT SHOWS THAT YOU'RE ON SOLID GROUND AND IT'S NOT, HE SAID, SHE SAID THAT YOU'VE GOT PROOF THAT IT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT GOT TO THE POINT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SAY ANYTHING TO HIM AT ALL.
YOU KNOW, HE ALWAYS HOLLERING AND CUSSING HIM BACK IN THE PRESENCE OF SOME OF THE OFFICERS.
I, BUT I WAS TOLD ONE TIME, WELL WHAT'S LOUD TO, YOU MAY NOT BE LOUD TO HIM.
YOU KNOW? AND I'M SAYING, WELL, THEY GOT A NOISE ORDINANCE.
AND SO FINALLY I FOUND OUT OVER A YEAR.
ONE OF THE OFFICERS, ONE OF THE OFFICERS, BUT THE OFFICER SMITH TOLD ME SUNDAY THAT HE, BY HIM ALREADY BEING TICKETED, THAT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO KEEP WARNING HIM EVERY TIME THEY COME UP AND CATCH HIM WITH IT, KNOWING THAT SHE'LL GIVE HIM A TICKET FROM HENCEFORTH, BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN TICKETED BEFORE $500, I WAS STOLEN.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHAT I KEEP HEARING? WHEN THE POLICE COME, THEY TURN IT DOWN.
THEY JUST DEALT WITH BAD WELL, SOME OFFICER DOES, SOME OFFICERS DO EITHER GO DOWN TO THE CORNER AND WAIT.
AND MATTER OF FACT, THAT ONE NIGHT HE WAS, HE THOUGHT THE OFFICER HAD LEFT AND PULLED HIS CAR IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND HAD THE MUSIC BLASTS.
AND THEN THE OFFICER WAS PARKED DOWN AND THEN GOT OUT AGAIN AND WARN HIM AGAIN ABOUT IT.
BUT SEE THE WARNING, YOU KNOW, HE HAD, HE HAD ALREADY BEEN CAUGHT, YOU KNOW, PLAYING IT.
SO HE SHOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN A TICKET, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, UM, COME DOWN BECAUSE I AM A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN.
AND UM, I, YOU KNOW, AND I, I DO PAY MY TAXES, YOU KNOW, AND I, I TRY TO DO THE BEST I CAN TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
AND HAVE MY FAMILY TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES SHE SAID, DON'T, DON'T EVEN WORRY ABOUT IT.
IT'S HARD SOMETIMES BECAUSE IT IS BOTHERSOME, YOU KNOW? AND A LOT OF TIMES I DON'T EAT, I GO IN THE DEN AND I STILL HIT HITTING MY DEN, YOU KNOW? AND MY BEDROOM IS RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE HIS PROPERTY IS AT AND WHERE TO HIS DRIVEWAY YET IS WHERE THE BEDROOM AND THE FENCE WASN'T GOOD.
I MEAN, HE THOUGHT HE WAS HURTING ME, BUT HE WAS REALLY DOING A GOOD JUSTICE BY PUTTING A FENCE UP.
CAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE SAME THING ANYWAY, BECAUSE IT BLOCKED THE CAR LIGHTS FROM COMING IN AND OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY.
SO THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A GOOD THING.
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YEAH.BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I CAN DO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO ESCALATE INTO ANYTHING BECAUSE ON ONE PARTICULAR OCCASION, UH, MY SON THAT DOESN'T LIVE WITH US, HE HAPPENED TO BE OVER AND HE GOT UPSET ABOUT THE MAN DISRESPECTING MY WIFE AND MYSELF.
AND UM, I HAD TO BRING A GUN FROM OVER THERE CAUSE I, AND I TOLD HIM, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, UH, UH, YOUR ATTENTION TO YOUR TIME.
I EVEN TALKED TO CAPTAIN
OH THE OPPOSITE AND THE SANDBOX, THE BOY, WHATEVER THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
AND I REMEMBER ONE TIME SOMEBODY HAD
I JUST WANT TO GET A RECORD WHEN I SAY USED TO, THAT WAS BEEN SINCE 1987.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING COME IN THIS WAY.
UH, I NEED TO REQUEST THAT THE BOARD, UH, CLOSE UNION POINT PARK TO TRAFFIC ON SUNDAY, THERE'S A, UH, LEUKEMIA WALK.
IT'S GOING TO BE HELD DOWN THERE FROM 6:00 AM TO 6:00 PM.
THE OTHER THING YEAH, IT'S JUST TO EXPLAIN IT.
UH, I HAVE A RESOLUTION, UH, SPOKE TO THE BOARD.
IT'S BEEN A COUPLE MONTHS AGO ABOUT, UH, THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD WITH NCD OT ABOUT REROUTING HIGHWAY 55, UH, IS NOW, UH, RUNS ALONG BROAD STREET TO EAST FRONT STREET.
AND THEN BACK ACROSS THE TRENT RIVER BRIDGE, UH, WITH FIELD, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROUNDABOUT AND THE REMOVAL OF THE BRIDGE, UH, THE NEED FOR HIGHWAY 55 TO COME DOWNTOWN IS, IS REALLY NOT OF ANY GOOD PURPOSE AND DLT CALLED ME YESTERDAY AND ASKED THAT WE GET AN OFFICIAL REQUEST FROM, FROM THE CITY TO, TO CHANGE THAT ROUTE.
AND WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IN THIS RESOLUTION IS THAT, UH, HIGHWAY 55 COME THROUGH TOWN AS IT DOES NOW, BUT WHEN IT HITS, UH, FIRST STREET THAT IT WOULD TURN ON THE FIRST STREET AND GO DOWN FIRST UNTIL IT HITS, UH, HIGHWAY 70 AND THEN BACK AROUND.
SO