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WE'LL CALL, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND, UH, WE'LL UH, HAVE A PRIOR ABOUT REVEREND DOBBS TUG WHEN I MEET.
TOTAL GOD, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER.
WE THANK YOU FOR A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO STUDY IN COUNSEL AND OUR COMMUNITIES
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SON CAME AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR US, ALL OF US IN OUR LIVES.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THOSE YOU PUT IN IN FLORIDA, THOSE WITH WHAT THEY NEED FOR THOSE DIFFERENT DECISIONS.
AND THERE'S A SETTING TONIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, KNOW EVERYBODY THAT I'M GLAD TO BE BACK.
I BEEN ON THE 9,734 MILE VEHICLE TRIP.
AND, UH, I'LL HAVE TO HONESTLY SAY THAT I MISSED EVERY ONE, BUT I'LL HAVE TO ALSO HONESTLY SAY I MISSED YOU FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHERE IS MR. BREWER HERE TONIGHT? IF HE IS, I LIKE HIM TO STAND OUT AND HE DID ALL THE DRIVING EXCEPT FOR 35 MILES.
SO I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. BROOK.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH STATES THAT HAD DONE NO SPEED LIMIT WHATSOEVER, WHICH IS A LONG STORY IN AND OF ITSELF, BUT IT PROVED TO ME THAT ONCE AGAIN, UH, THE COMMON MAN HAS MORE SENSE AND SOME FOLKS GIVING CREDIT FOR, SO WE DRIVE THE SAME SPEED AND THE STATES BEFORE US AND HAD SPEED LIMITS.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT JUST FELT RIGHT.
ANYWAY, THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TONIGHT IS THE SEWER UPDATE BY THE CITY ENGINEER.
I ONCE A MONTH UPDATE, UH,
WE HAVE RECORDED PRETTY MORE THAN 70 HOURS A DAY.
UH, WE TREATED A TOTAL OF 115, 80 HOURS OF JULY.
UH, OUR PHOSPHORUS
UM, AND WE HAD ONE GLITCH HERE ARE BIOLOGICAL OXYGEN DEMAND ON THE 16TH, COUPLE DAYS AFTER BIRTH.
AND, UH, WE HAD A DISSOLVED OXYGEN.
UM, WE HAVE 273, UH, COMING INTO THE PLANT THE NEXT DAY, THE NEXT DAY FOR THEM, UH, TO, UH, WASHINGTON OUT OF OUR SEWER SYSTEM.
THAT'S 169,050 GALLONS OF WATERFALL ALONG THE CITY THAT
AND THAT'S CHECKED ON A DAILY BASIS AND THAT'S OUR MOST RECENT
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INUM, WE HAD A SORE MAN HOLE AND JUST HAVE A RESTRICTION AND IT LIFTED A 40 POUND COVER ABOUT EIGHT INCHES AND SPLIT IT DOWN THE ROAD 40 FEET WITH THE RUSSIAN.
NEXT THING IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE 1997 CDBG BLOCK GRANT APPLICATIONS.
WE'RE APPLYING FOR TWO YEARS THIS YEAR.
I'M TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM THAT IS THREE 22,000 UNITS IN THE SECOND THIRD AVENUE
TRY TO FIX THE PROBLEMS
THIS IS THE SAME HOUSE PROGRAM, 99
THIS IS
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS
SO NOW WE'RE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE OPEN THE HERE, I GUESS WE'VE OPENED THE COVER HERE.
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE REGARDING THE GRANT? OKAY.
START ON THE FIRST, SECOND, RIGHT? IF YOU WOULDN'T COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND
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GREG, ARE YOU AWARE OF IT? OKAY, SIR.
THERE WAS SOMEBODY LOOKING INTO IT AND SHE'S REQUESTED TO SEE WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE DONE.
AND ANYBODY ELSE ON THAT PARTICULAR ROSE? ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO THE NEXT ROW BEHIND THAT.
WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD HE BE ABLE TO SEE OR, UM, ALSO YOUR CONDITION ASSESSMENT.
IF YOU CAN'T REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PHONE NUMBER.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? JUST CALL DOWN TO THE CITY HALL AND, AND THEY'LL WANT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
ANYBODY ELSE ON THAT PARTICULAR ROW OR? OKAY.
ANYBODY HERE? ANYBODY WANTS TO COME FOR THEM? SOMEBODY BACK HERE, EILEEN.
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THEY SAID IN TAXES TOO.AND THEY SAID, THEY SAID PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND THE
HOW COULD WE SHOOT THAT AS HER NAME ON, ON SUNDAY, FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES UP THERE.
YOU GET SOMEBODY HOME FIXED UP THIS MONEY.
ONCE YOU GET BACK TO AGAIN, THE STRUGGLE, NOT BEING A NEW RUNNER.
I KNOW IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH DR.
MER, YOU HELPED ME OUT AND DO WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO, BUT I NEED SOME HELP.
YOU NEED TO SEE THAT YOU GET SOME FUNDS.
HOW MANY TIMES
OH, YOU GAVE THE EXAMPLE OF THE HURRICANE CAME THROUGH BREAKFAST.
HOW COULD WE WERE SO CLOSE TOGETHER? WE NEED TO BE, GET ALL THE TIME, GETTING HELP TO BEGIN TO THINK OF THERE.
I SAY, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO US A LONG TIME AND I SAID, HOW YOU MIGHT TAKE THE INGREDIENT, GIVE IT TO THE KNEE.
I'M SURE THAT THEY CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
I LIVE AT 1422 LINCOLN STREET.
UM, THIS IS THE VERY OLD KNOWS ABOUT MY HOUSE AND THE CENTER IS CRITICAL.
SO WITH THE SCATTER GUNS, I'M JUST ONE STREET OVER FROM WHERE THE GRANT LACE CONSIDER MY HOUSE BECAUSE I HAVE NO CLASSES.
I HAVE TO STORE THE FLOORS, UH, THE SEAL OF THE ROOM.
SO, UM, I AM A NATIVE OF NEWBURGH NOW, SEVEN YEARS.
AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT WAS REALLY ACCURATE IN THE SOUP KITCHEN, THIS SHELTER, THE HOMELESS.
AND NOW THAT HE'S DECEASED, I NEED SOME CITY STAFF, BUT IF THEY WERE CONSIDERED, UM, HEY
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MIKE DRAG, YOU ARE AWARE OF THE SITUATION.I FEEL SO, SO WRONG HERE, AND I DON'T HAVE NO BIBLE ON SALE.
I HAVE TO HERE, I HAVE A BACKLOG AND I HAVE THE HOT ROCKS THERE UNTIL I HAD TAKE MY LIVING ROOM.
NOW I NEED HELP WITH MY HOME BECAUSE, UM, THE MIDDLE PART OF MINE, DOWNSTAIRS ROLE, THE SEALS, THE SEALS ARE GONE, AND THAT MAKES MY HOUSE SO SWEATING IN THE MIDDLE OF GOING DOWN MY SHIFT IN MY BEDROOM, UPSALE, IT WOULD THEN PUT BLOCKS TO FRONT.
IT WOULD CHILL DOWN THE WHAT THE WARES ON ROLL.
UH, I NEED OLD BULLETS TAKING OFF MY HOME AND YOU COULD PUT ON MY HOUSE AND IT NEEDED PAIN.
AND SO, UM, ONE OF THEM TOLD ME THAT NOT THAT WAS TOO SMALL AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LARGER BECAUSE MY BATHROOM WAS STILL
THAT WAS STILL LEFT THERE FOR THAT GOOD EAR.
THE HILL IS SMALL AND YOU JUST GET DRAWN AROUND ME.
THE CONDUCT OF SEAGULLS IS MAKING THE WHOLE PLACE DOWN.
SCALING YOUR CURIOSITY, NOT ON A FIXED THING.
I'M ON 77 YEAR OLD HAVE ABOUT ME.
I HAVE RENT AND A LIFE IS VIDEO PLUS TWO OR THREE MORE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET ME SOMETHING TO EAT.
NOW I BEEN TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ALL OF THEM TIME.
HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE OUT OF HOME ON MY DISTRICT.
I HAVE CALLED, I HAVE CALLED DOWNTOWN.
I BARBARA OVER THERE JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE.
EVEN DOWN TO MS LIVES, THE DAUGHTER'S HOUSE.
I CAME OUT A WEEK OR TWO WHEN SHE LIVED THERE, HER DAUGHTER EAGLES STAYED AT THAT HOUSE AND IT HAD GONE TO THE GROUND.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN HERE TWO YEARS.
ARE YOU AWARE OF HER SITUATION, GREG? YOU ARE EXCUSE ME.
SORRY ON, BUT YOU CAN NEVER GET IT COLD DOWN WHEN YOU'RE GETTING IN IT.
YOU JUST DON'T GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM.
I JUST WALKED ON ONLY THE MC AND THEN COME INTO A HOUSE KITCHEN, GO OUT AND JUST ALL FROM ONE HOUSE AWAY FROM A BATHROOM AT MY HOUSE TOP.
NOW WHAT YOU'RE COMING HERE FOR THE MAN
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I'M TAKING A PICTURE OF, WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? 5 32 GREEN STREET, OVER 65.WHERE YOU GOING TO SCOTLAND? ARE YOU AWARE OF HIS SITUATION? YOU ARE THEY HAVE YOUR NAME ON THE LIST, MR. LEVIN, HUH? YOUR NAME IS ON THE LIST AS ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED AND I'LL PASS YOUR MESSAGE OR TO MR. PAUL HAM, YOU KNOW, THE CONTACT YOU AND MS. POWELL, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO HAVE YOUR NAME ON THE LIST AS NEEDING OR YOUR HOUSE REPAIRED.
I'VE BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL TWO WEEKS AND HE CAME OUT YESTERDAY AND THE MACHINE THREE TIMES A WEEK.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS WITH YOU A PROPOSED PROGRAM, WHICH MAY BE OF ASSISTANCE IN IMPROVING THE LIVING CONDITIONS.
SOME OF THE CITIZENS, A NEW WAY OF INCREASING THE USE OF ALL HOUSING INVENTORY FOR THE CITY.
THIS PAST LETTER I READ IN THE SUN JOURNAL ARTICLES REGARDING THE LOSS OF A CHILD, THAT CONDEMN STRUCTURE WITHIN THE CITY AND THE FRUSTRATION THAT OUR CITY FACE IN THIS SITUATION.
AS I READ THROUGH THESE ARTICLES DAILY, I THOUGHT BACK ON MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES OVER THE PAST 18 YEARS, AS A VOLUNTEER WITH SERVICE,
ONE PERSON'S IDEA, WELL TEENAGERS, $150 PROVIDED AND THE DESIRE TO REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORS AND TO IMPROVE THEIR LIVING CONDITIONS WHILE SHOWING THEM THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THAT FIRST YEAR, ONLY THREE HOMES FOR REPAIR THIS PAST SUMMER, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AGAIN TO THE HILLS OF APPALACHIA, WHERE PROJECT OPERATES IN 16 COMMUNITIES IN CENTRAL APPALACHIA, WE BOUGHT TOGETHER 7,500 VOLUNTEERS AND REMAIN HOME REPAIRS AND ADDITIONS OR PEOPLE IN NEED, APPROXIMATELY 285 HOMES, A SAVER DRIER WARMER FOR THE FAMILIES RESIDING AT NO COST TO THEM.
THE
THERE'S CERTAINLY AN OPPORTUNITY OR A NEWER IN SERVICE.
INITIALLY, ALL OWNERS INCOME LEVEL, IT SUCKS THAT THESE FAMILIES
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YOU WANT THAT OUR MOMS DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES OR THE SKILLS TO PROPERLY MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES.VOLUNTEER ALL AGES SIZES AS A DESCRIPTION WOULD BE WELL WORKING WITH LOCAL CHURCH, YOUTH GROUPS, VOLUNTEERS WOULD REVIVED, AND THIS WOULD PROVIDE AN INSIGHT FOR FUTURE ENERGY LEADERS INTO SOME OF THE COMPLEX AND CHALLENGING PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD RESIDENTS FACE
LYON, THE IMMIGRATION AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK OR FORM BY THE AVAILABLE FUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE,
AND IN ADDITION TO THIS NEIGHBORS FROM THE VARIOUS AREAS OF THE CITY WOULD COME TOGETHER, A OTHER CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF NEAR GARDENER.
THERE, I UNDERSTANDING MORE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND CORRECTION EFFICANCE OF THE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE SECTIONS OF THE CITY, WHERE THEY WOULD DO WORK.
YOU WILL INTO THIS CONCEPT CONSIDERATION AND MAKE SOME PROVISIONS FOR A PORTION OF THE FUNDS FROM THE SMALL CITIES COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT FUNDS PROGRAM AVAILABLE FOR PROGRAM OF THIS NATURE.
YOU LIKE TO MEET WITH US PERSONALLY, DISCUSSES ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALLS.
JOAN ASKS QUICKIE BY WYATT WHO HAS A HIP REPLACEMENT AND CANNOT WALK.
HIS DAD SAYS THIS WEEK AND ROB US, I HAVE A MEMBER OF COPIES.
THANK YOU, MIKE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING ALONG THOSE LINES BEFORE I WENT ON A THREE WEEK TRIP, UM, WE HAVE HAD RECENT MEETINGS CHAIRED BY THE MAYOR AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOUSING NEEDS AND IN PARTICULAR, A DECENT, SAFE, AND SANITARY AND CARELESSLY.
AND WE JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED PILOT PROJECT OF AN AREA OF TOWN, GENERALLY CEDAR STREET ON THE SOUTH MAIN STREET ON THE NORTH CHAPMAN TO THE WEST IN WEST, UH, ABOUT 130 HOUSES.
UH, WE WENT BY, UM, OPERATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IN THE PLANNING AND INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND OUR DEPARTMENT.
AND, UM, THE, THE WAY THAT THE PROGRAM IS STRUCTURED IS, UH, THE FIREMAN AND THE INSPECTORS WENT INTO THE HOUSE, CHECKED, UH, FOR A SMOKE DETECTOR.
UH, IF THEY DID NOT HAVE ONE INSTALLED SMOKE DETECTOR, BUT THEY HAD ONE THAT NEEDED REPAIRS MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS TO, TO MAKE IT SERVICEABLE.
AND AT THE SAME TIME YOU DID A THREE SURVEY OF THE STRUCTURE TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY THREATS TO THE SAFETY OF THE FAMILIES.
UH, SO THAT, UH, UH, PROGRAMS CAN BE DEVELOPED TO ADDRESS THOSE IMMEDIATE THREATS.
AND ALSO LET US KNOW LONG-TERM FOR PLANNING ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY HEALTH PROGRAMS. WHAT CAN BE DONE, UH, THE PROGRAM, UH, FROM THE REPORTS ON HERE WAS RECEIVED WELL.
UM, THEY GO TO THE NUMBER OF, UH, SLIGHT ATTACKERS AND STYLE, UH, BUT, UM, THE, UM, THE HOUSES THAT DIDN'T PUT IN AND FOLKS LIVING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN HOME AND LEFT NOTES, UH, THEY CAN STILL BE ABLE TO CALL AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ABOUT THAT.
UH, SO THAT EFFORT AND TRYING TO ADAPT ON NAMES, I THINK CAN ALSO DOVETAIL VERY NICELY WITH FUTURE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS AND WITH THE PROGRAMS SUCH AS MR.
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AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP MANY TIMES IN OUR MEETING WAS THE USE OF THE VOLUNTEER RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO THIS, I THINK COULD DOVETAIL WITH WHAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN MEETING THE POINT, BEING THAT WE APPRECIATE WHAT HE'S PROPOSING AND IN FACT, AND THEN MOVING ALONG THOSE GROUNDS AND RECOGNIZE, AND THEN YOU WERE AT OUR MEETING, I THINK WENT DOWN AND, UH, REALIZING THAT WE'VE GOT A LARGE VOLUNTEER RESOURCE OUT HERE, RETIRED PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF SKILLS AND YOUNG KIDS ARE GOING OUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A HOUSING PROBLEM.
NOT ONLY IN NEWBURN, BUT MOST EVERYWHERE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET IT DIE.
SO I HOPE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE TRULY GOING TO TRY TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR CRIMES ARE NOT GOING UNNOTICED.
SO, UH, BEAR WITH US HAVE FAITH THAT WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN.
SO HAS ANYBODY ELSE, UH, OUT THERE AND WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE CLOSE IT? OKAY.
SOMEBODY TO ANSWER THAT MY HEARING SAY BAD, I CAN'T HEAR IT FOR
AS LONG AS FISHER HOUSE,
DON'T LIMIT THE EXTENT TO WHERE
WELL, HE ASKED HIM, HE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
HE TOLD YOU YES, WE CAN DO IT, BUT YOU ASK HIM THE SAME QUESTION, BUT GO AHEAD.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE WE'LL HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OH, I'M SORRY.
IS THAT WHAT ADDRESSES THAT HOUSE ON PAVEY AVENUE? 10 22.
MR. MADISON CAN CHECK INTO THAT.
GIVE ME AN ANSWER ON THAT SOUND THAT HE WAS CURIOUS.
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WELL, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM HIM.AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS DANNY'S WELL, DO YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS? OKAY.
TAKE A LOOK AT ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE WE CLOSE IT HERE.
WILL WE CLOSE SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COULD YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE? SOME OF US CAN'T HEAR A WORD.
SO THE LAST LADY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE SAID, BECAUSE SHE WOULDN'T GO UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
I JUST FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB.
WHAT WOULD THE CONCEPTS PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY? WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL TO KIND OF MAKE YOU FEEL NOW ABOUT LIVE OUTSIDE OF THOSE AREAS.
ALL THE TIME YOU GET FUNDING IS WHAT'S SEVERE.
AND EVERY YEAR IT SEEMS TO BE DROPPED SOMEPLACE OTHER THAN WHERE OTHER PEOPLE ARE LEAVING.
I'M GLAD IN FACT, I EVER DO HAVE MONEY ALLOWED FOR SCARY SITES.
AND IN THOSE SCOUTS SIZE, I DON'T KNOW OF A DESIGNATED AREA.
I ASKED THEM GARDEN STREET AREAS, IF IT ROARED.
AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED WITH AREAS IN QUEENSLAND AND THERE IS LIKE THAT.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE DO WITH THINGS AND NEEDS DEFINITELY NEED TO BE DONE.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF HARDSHIPS, ESPECIALLY AFTER SCHOOL AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBLEMS, OKAY.
SO MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO TAKE THE BUSINESS, NOT THE END OF THIS YEAR, THEN I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO BE OPPOSED TO NOT GOING SOMEPLACE ELSE.
AND NEXT YOU HAVE ANY SIZE GOING TO HAPPEN.
ISN'T THIS, YOUR DOWN TO CEDAR STREET, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M GOING, WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AND APPLICATION, AND THEN I'LL MAKE YOU AN APPLICATION.
THERE'S MONEY FOR THE SCOUT SIDE.
YOU DO CALL THEM JUST TO WRITE ON MINE.
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NEXT THING IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTING AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION 15 DASH 4 28 APPLICATION PROCEDURES AND THE LAND USE ORDINANCE.WHO'S GOING TO EXPLAIN THAT OR, UH, MANAGERS, THE BOARD, UH, THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE ORDINANCE REPAYS TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONDITIONS, UH, APPLICATION SUBMISSION SCHEDULE AND FILING REQUIREMENTS, AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC NOTICE, UM, WHAT THE COMMISSION IS ATTEMPTING TO DO IN LIGHT OF THE RECENT SWARMING AND EUROPEAN GROWTH UP, UH, BECAME ACUTELY AWARE OF THE CONDITION THAT PROPERTIES IN THIS REGISTRY THAT WERE DAMAGED.
SO PEOPLE NEEDED IMMEDIATE ATTENTION GIVEN TO THEIR PROPERTIES, RATHER THAN TRYING TO HEAR TO A STRUCTURED SCHEDULE WITH A DEADLINE.
AND THEN FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW A WAIVER OF THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
AND THE APPLICATION FILING DATE, EIGHT CASES WERE DECLARED.
A STATE OF EMERGENCY IS SET BY THE BOARD AND THIS EXPEDITION NOW ATTACHED TO ASSETS, UH, FAST TRACK, UM, VIEW OF THE APPLICATIONS TO THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS, SPECIAL SITUATIONS.
CAN WE CLOSE THE DOOR OR
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVING A PROBLEM ON THE BOARD NOW, WHEN YOU SAY A DECLARED EMERGENCY, YOU FIND THAT PLEASE.
SO WE'LL ALL FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.
YOU MAY BE LIKE THE THING I DID DURING THE HURRICANE.
IS THERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT THEY WOULD BE CALLED UNDER THIS DEFINITION? WELL, WE WOULD PROBABLY DO IS MAKE THAT PART OF THE RESOLUTION OR IF THE DECLARATION THAT YOU MAKE AND WE'LL PUT AN ARTICLE IN THERE, EVERYTHING I'M GOING TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE DEFINE WHAT THE SO-CALLED EMERGENCY IS LEGALLY.
DO WE NEED TO HAVE ANY INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC ON THAT? NOBODY HAS ANY HANDBOOK CLOSING THE HEARINGS, HEARING HIS CLAIM NOW.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S A ROLL CALL AND GET, UH, I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE ODDS OF BEING WRONG EVERY TIME.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS TO A GUY THAT LIKES YES.
THE NEXT THING IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTING THE CABLE TV FRANCHISE ORDINANCE ON THE SECOND READING AND MR. WARD, EXPLAIN THIS.
YEAH, MOMMY, THE BOARD, THE AGENDA PACKAGE INCLUDES THE ORDINANCE, THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT YOU CONSIDER THE LAST MEETING WITH A COUPLE OF CHANGES, WHICH WERE SUGGESTED BY THE CITIZEN CONSULTANT, MR. DAVID HARRIS, PLUS CORRECTION OF SOME VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE AGREEMENT THAT'S IN YOUR AGENDA BACK PACKAGES, RED LINE, ONLY AS YOU CAN TELL WHAT CHANGES AT THAT NIGHT ON FRIDAY, I RECEIVED A FAX FROM MR. HARRIS, UH, WHICH SUGGESTED SEVERAL ADDITIONAL CHANGES.
UH, BRUCE MILLER SUGGESTED A FEW TECHNICAL CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT.
UH, THREE OF THOSE TWO, THREE AND FOUR DIDN'T POSE ANY PROBLEM.
THE FIRST ONE DID BECAUSE IT, IT REFLECTED THE INFORMATION WHICH HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ME BEFORE I PREPARED THE ORDINANCE AND THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WAS INACCURATE.
I THINK WHAT HAPPENED REALLY IS MR. RAMIREZ PROVIDED A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE AND THAT AGREEMENT TO BE CRAMMING GENERAL COUNSEL, TO MULTIMEDIA AND MULTIMEDIA CABLEVISION.
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AND HE CALLED BRUCE'S ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT HIS UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAD OCCURRED IN ACTION BETWEEN THE CORPORATION WAS WRONG.THIS RESOLVED IN WELL, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT AFTER TALKING TO DAVID FLEMING, I MADE THE CHANGE THAT THEY REQUESTED.
AND I WOKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, LAST NIGHT, SOMETHING NAGGING AT ME.
AND I REALIZED THAT THIS HAD OCCURRED TO ME THAT, THAT WE HAD A CHANGE THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE.
UH, THE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED ON FIRST READING, REFLECTIVE MULTIMEDIA CABLE WAS THE PARENT COMPANY, THE PARENT CORPORATION RELEVANT COMMUNICATION, WHICH IS THE FRANCHISEE OF THE CITY THEY HAD REQUESTED.
MR. RAMIREZ HAD REQUESTED THAT THE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY RUN THE RENT, RAN TO THE FRANCHISE, ACTUALLY RUN TO MODERN MEDIA CABLE.
UH, THEY HAD BEEN USING THE, AS A TRADE NAME, MORE IMMEDIATE CABLE FOR YEARS.
AND IF YOU LOOK IN A TELEPHONE DIRECTORY, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S LISTED MULTIMEDIA CABLE.
I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT AS LONG AS RECITALS, WHICH I HAD INCLUDED IN THAT ORDINANCE.
AND THEN THE FRANCHISE WERE ACCURATE.
IT SAID THAT THE APPARENT CORPORATION THAT HAD BEEN PURCHASED BY MULTIMEDIA CABLEVISION, WHICH WAS INFORMATION I'VE BEEN GIVEN BY BRUCE AND THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT THE FRANCHISE IN THE NAME OF PARENTS, THE INFORMATION THAT I WAS PROVIDED, UH, ON LAST FRIDAY, WHICH I TALKED TO DAVID FLEMING ABOUT YESTERDAY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, MORE THAN IMMEDIATE CABLEVISION, NOT FAIR COOPERATION WITH NOT THE CORPORATION, WHICH HAS PURCHASED OUR ROAD INSTEAD, MULTIMEDIA, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT CORPORATION IN WHICH I UNDERSTAND USA TODAY.
UH, SO THAT WE HAD A SITUATION, AS I SAID, IT CRASHED IN ON ME DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, LAST NIGHT THAT MAYBE WE WERE CONSIDERING MAYBE THE CITY WAS CONSIDERING GRANTING, OKAY, WE'LL FRANCHISE TO A CORPORATION.
WE DIDN'T OWN ANY PART OF THE SYSTEM FOR SERVICE.
SO THIS MORNING I CALLED MR. HARRIS ALERTED HIM TO THE PROBLEM.
THEN I CALLED HIM TO FLEMING AND I TOLD DAVID THAT I NEEDED TO KNOW WHAT IT WOULD LEAVE THEM IN IF YOU OWN THE SYSTEM.
AND IF, AS I SUSPECTED IT WAS STILL A TAR ROAD, OR IF IT WERE NOT, IF IT HAD BEEN TRANSFERRED TO MULTI-MEDIA CABLEVISION, THE PROPOSED FRANCHISEE, I NEEDED SOMETHING TO SHOW THAT IN FACT, THAT HAD OCCURRED SO THAT WE WOULD NOT BE GRANTING A FRANCHISE TO A PAY-PER-CALL OPERATION, WHICH AD DID NOT HAVE THE WAY WITH ALL TO DO WHAT THEY HAD TO DO UNDER THIS.
I, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE THING STANDS OUT UNDER THE ORDINANCE.
IF THEY DECIDED THEY WANT TO SELL IT, THE FRANCHISE, THEY HAVE TO GIVE THE CITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THE FAIR MARKET VALUE, BUT THEY DIDN'T OWN IT BECAUSE, SO I TALKED AND I SAID, I TALKED TO DAVID, I'M NOT SURE THAT HE AGREED WITH ME, THAT WE HAD THE PROBLEM WE DID.
HIS RESPONSE WAS, AND WE'VE GOT FRANCHISES IN ALL THE STATE, JUST LIKE THAT.
I REMINDED HIM OF WHAT I'VE TOLD THE BOARD A FEW TIMES OVER THE YEARS, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE NUMBER OF THAT PEOPLE ARE SENDING THE, DOING IT ALL OVER.
AND JUST LIKE I TOLD MY CHILDREN, WHEN THEY TOLD ME ALL THEIR FRIENDS WERE DOING WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO, I DIDN'T GIVE A, THAT
I FINALLY CALLED BRUCE AND I TOLD HIM JUST WHAT WE HAD TO HAVE.
I TOLD HIM I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND HIS BOARD AND IT'D BE PULLED UP THE AGENDA AND TAKE NO ACTION ON IT UNTIL WE COULD DETERMINE WHO OWNED THE SYSTEM.
UH, BRUCE CALLED ME BACK AND WE HAD DISCUSSED IT.
AND I PUT IN HERE IS A RECITAL.
UH, SO IT HAS TO REFLECT WHAT'S HAPPENED TODAY, YESTERDAY AND THE, THE OWNERSHIP SITUATION.
OTHERWISE THEY RAN THE SAME THING.
THEY WORK, UH, BRUCE AND I AGREED THAT IF HIS PEOPLE HAD READ THE SIMPLEST WAY TO HANDLE, IT WOULD BE JUST TO LEAVE THE FRANCHISE AND THE EXISTING FRANCHISEE
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SO THAT THIS DOCUMENT, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD RUN THE TORO COMMUNICATION TODAY RATHER THAN TO, UH, ONE IMMEDIATE CABLEVISION.THEN HE CALLED ME BACK AND SAID THAT HE HAD TALKED ALL THIS PEOPLE TO, THEY AGREED.
THEN I GOT BUSY AND REDRAFTED THESE DOCUMENTS.
SO AS TO MAKE THE RECITAL IS WHICH ARE IN THESE DOCUMENTS CORRESPONDING TO THE FRESH, SEE, I'D BE HAPPY TO READ THEM TO YOU, BUT THE DOCUMENTS THEMSELVES ARE SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME AS YOU ACTED ON AT THE LAST MEETING.
BUT I SUGGESTED TO CITY MANAGER THIS AFTERNOON THAT SINCE IT WAS ACCURATE MONEY, DIFFERENT ENTITY, BUT IT WOULD BE BETTER IF IT WERE PASSED ON FIRST READING TONIGHT, THIS WAS PASSED ON FIRST GRADE AND ADOPTED ON SECOND READING CONNECTION.
I HAD ONE QUESTION
WITH THE NEXT MEETING AND FORMER VISIT WORK SESSION, IT GIVES ME A DONE AT WORK SESSION OR WISHING TO DO STUFF REQUIRES THAT IT'D BE DONE.
TWO MEETINGS FOR THE WHOLE CODE WORK SESSIONS ARE QUALIFIED AND REGULAR SESSION.
SO THE BOARD MAY ADOPT WHATEVER.
I'VE GOT SOME STUFF I'D STILL LIKE TO GET CLARIFIED.
I HAVE SET THIS UP AS FAR AS THE CLOSE ON IT THAT IT WILL BE ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER, MAYBE ON A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
NEXT THING IS A CONSENT AGENDA.
WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I'M GOING TO REMAIN THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? YES.
JODIE'S FIRST LADY ALWAYS FIRST MR.
HE WAS JUST GOING TO OFFICIALLY PULL IT IN, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD INITIATIVES.
UH, PROJECT IS A LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROCESS THAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
AND WHY DOES, IS LOOKS AT A SMALL AREA OF THE CITY, A NEIGHBORHOOD OR TWO, AND MOST OF THE CONCERNS AND NEEDS OF THOSE AREAS ARE, UH, AS VOICE OR NAME, MOST PART NON CITIZENS.
UM, WE END THIS KIND OF PROCESS HAVING INVOLVEMENT WITH DEFECT AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AND HOURS, BUT IT IS VERY MUCH CITIZEN ALTRIA
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THAN WHAT THEY SEE AS NEEDS IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND DIRECTION.THEY WON'T SIT HERE COMMUNITY GOING, EXCUSE ME, I'M BACK THE WAY I LIKE MY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, UH, BE ADDRESSED WOULD BE WHAT REPORTS WOULD THE UNION STATION, MOOSE RIVER INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT STUDY AREA, AND BASICALLY THIS AREA BETWEEN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE RIVERSIDE AREA.
UH, IT CONTAINS MANY BUSINESSES HOMES, UH, AND HAS BEEN AN AREA THAT HAS SEEN A GREAT DEAL OF INTEREST, UH, IN RECENT YEARS, UM, NAIL AND MILL IN ICE CREAM COMPANIES LOCATED IN THIS AREA.
UM, THEY ARE INVOLVED IN THEIR OWN MASTER PLANNING PROCESS FOR THEIR FACILITIES, AND WE FEEL OUR PLANNING PROCESS IN THAT AREA, THAT DOVETAIL WITH WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR WATER USE.
UH, ALSO, UH, WE'LL REMEMBER WHEN THE LAST YEAR THE, UH, HUGGING A SHELTER ISSUE, UH, THAT RCS BROUGHT FORWARD ON HOME D ZONING THERE, UH, IN THE AREA, UH, THEY HAVE NEW SERVICE HAS A COUPLE OF FACILITIES, THEIR PRESENCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FOREST, UH, ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
WE PARENT THE PLANS FOR THE NEW POLICE STATION.
UM, THE ONCE AGAIN, ALL OF THAT IS LOCATED IN THAT AREA THAT ARE CALLED THE CEMETERY CEDAR GROVE, WHO ARE DOING THE WORK.
SO THE AREA SEEMS TO BE A VERY GOOD LOCATION FOR THAT FIRST STEP INTEREST MOTHER REHAB HOUSES, UH, GOING ON.
AND, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THE PLANNING PROCESS THERE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, PUT IT IN CONTEXT IS SORT OF LIKE DOING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING OF THE CITY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE'RE DOING IT ON A MUCH SMALLER SCALE.
IT BECOMES A POLICY DOCUMENT FOR HOW THIS BOARD IN OTHER GROUPS WOULD LOOK AT THIS COMMUNITY ON 17 ISSUES THAT MIGHT COME UP, TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, PUBLIC FACILITY ISSUES, AND SO FORTH.
SO IT GIVES GUIDANCE TO NOT ONLY THIS BOARD, BUT TO GO UPPERS AND OTHERS THAT WOULD BE INVESTED IN THE AREA.
SO THAT'S JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROCESS.
WE'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THAT AREA.
IT'S A CRITICAL, CRITICAL JUNCTURE, INNOCENT DEVELOPMENT.
BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND DECIDE TO USE YOUR ENDORSEMENT SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
YOU MIGHT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WHETHER OUR MISSION MAKING, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY, WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN AN OPERATION TO SEE WHAT PROBLEMS MIGHT BE PRESENTED.
SO IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK A LOGICAL APPROACH OR THE FUTURE IS VERY CIS AND DICE, AND WE'LL BE THROUGH OTHER DDS, BRING IN ALL OF THE CONCERNS AND IDEAS OF THE CITIZENS.
AND THEN I'LL BE PUTTING BACK UP FROM THE PLANNING BOARD INTO THIS ONE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON WHICH CRITICISMS COME UP.
WE'LL SEE ANY PLANNING, YOU HAVE LESS PROBLEMS,
I'LL INVITE YOU TO SAY I PROBABLY WAS NO GOOD.
I'D RATHER HAVE A CLEAN RECORD OF HOLD ON.
UP OR DOWN DON, YOU CALLED EIGHT OR NINE, UM,
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LAST WEEK OR WHAT EXACTLY IS, THIS WAS APPROVING THE, THIS IS A PROVEN CONTRACTS WITH THE, UH, TWO ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS TO CONDUCT THIS DOCK TO BEGIN AND TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN OF THE FACILITIES.AND ALSO IT WILL INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION.
ONCE A CONSTRUCTION TAKES PLACE.
THIS DOES NOT YET ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF FUNDING, BUT IT DOES ADDRESS THE ISSUE OR IT DOES COMMIT SOME FUNDS SO THAT WE COULD START DOING THE BUILDING OF THESE FACILITIES PROBABLY ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAT WOULD GIVE THE BOARD THAT RIGHT TO GO IN.
AND OF COURSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
PLANS ARE STILL GOING TO BE THERE AND THERE'LL BE ABLE TO BE USED WHENEVER.
WHY DID WE TAKE TO THIS CONTRACT? THE, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL ARCHITECT WILL AFFIRMS, HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK, UH, GRATIS WORK WITH THE BOAT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND PUTTING TOGETHER VARIOUS, UH, APPROACHES TO THIS AND HAVE IT SPENT A LOT OF THEIR TIME AND MONEY AND HAD BEEN VERY WILLING TO DO THAT WITHOUT ANY, UH, UH, HOPE OF, UH, SURE THAT THESE PROJECTS WOULD GO THROUGH.
THESE ARE PETERSON ASSOCIATES.
I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THAT BIG NAME
THESE ARE FIRMS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S PROBABLY ONE OTHER ARCHITECTURAL FIRM IS NOT SOME WORK FOR THE CITY PREVIOUS TO THAT.
SO WE'RE JUST SPREADING THE WORK AROUND FACE.
SO WHEN ARE WE GOING TO PRESS THE ISSUE? WHETHER WE KNOW WELL, I, I HOPE THAT I THINK IT'S MY SENSE OF WHAT THE MAJORITY OF BOARD FIELDS IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T DECIDED HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT YET.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION SOMETIME TOWARDS THE SPRING OF LATE AS NO LATER THAN THE SPRING OF THIS UPCOMING CALENDAR YEAR.
YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL BE INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS ABOUT THAT TIME.
WELL, I GUESS IN A LONG COMMENT, WELL, WE'VE DISCUSSED MOST OF THE SYSTEMS. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REFUTES THE FACT THAT WE NEED BOTH OF THEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GO TO SOME OTHER CITIES, WE WENT TO GREENVILLE ON THE HOUSING THING HERE, WHAT A MONTH OR SO AGO.
AND I REALIZED WHERE HE WAS FROM A BIGGER CITY THAN WE ARE BY FAIRLY CONSIDERABLE MARGIN.
BUT OUR FACILITY YOU'RE PRETTY NICE.
DON'T LET ANYBODY HEAR THIS, BUT WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THE VOTE FROM NOW, AND I'LL SAY, WELL, NOW WE'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
AND IF IT'S A ROLL CALL, JUST START CALLING THE WRONG.
IF I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING FOR AWHILE, I'LL KNOW, IT MUST BE A BOY.
DON'T MAX TO HEAR IT AS A GREAT, OKAY.
NOW THE NEXT THING IS APPOINTMENTS REALLY.
I HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED THIS IS RELATED TO AN APPOINTMENT.
I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE FROM SECOND WARD TO FILL A POSITION ON THE NEW BURN APPEARANCE COMMISSION.
SINCE JUNE OF 1995, I'VE ASKED SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS AND NO ONE WANTED IT.
SO I'M MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON TELEVISION.
IF ANY OF YOU WHO ARE OUT THERE LISTENING WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON THE APPEARANCE COMMISSION, PLEASE CALL MY OFFICE AT SIX THREE THREE FIVE TWO NINE NINE.
BUT THE APPEARANCE COMMISSION IS A COMMISSION THAT'S UM, WHAT THEY DO IS BASICALLY THEY MADE DECISIONS ON, UM, BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS AROUND THE CITY.
SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, INTERESTED IN HOW THE CITY LOOKS
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AND AESTHETICS AROUND THE CITY, GIVE ME A CALL.ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY APPOINTMENTS? OKAY.
HOW ABOUT MISCELLANEOUS HAD ONE OF OUR LOCAL SEAFOOD MARKETS QUEST AND THEN, UH, SEVERAL ROADSIDES.
UH, AND I HAD THE DOG FIGHT AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE, BUT, UH, I DO PROBLEM, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH THE SIGNAGE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS VERY STRINGENT SIGN ORDINANCE AND A SHOP ON
WE DO HAVE SECTION 15 DASH 3 24 OF THE, UH, LAND USE ORDINANCES THAT CERTAIN TEMPORARY SIGNS AND ALLOWS FOR THIS DISPLAY OF TEMPORARY SIGNS, OTHER THAN BANNERS, PORTABLE SIDEWALK, SIGNS, AND TRAILERS FOR TEMPORARY ADVANCE.
IT DOES FALL UNDER THEIR COMPLIANCE.
IT IS BOXES DOWN, TEMPORARY LIVING.
UM, THE ORDINANCE ITSELF IS PRETTY LIBERAL IN THE AREA OF ROADSIDE SPENDERS.
IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE FOR US TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PLANNING BOARD AND SEE, WE MIGHT NEED TO TIGHTEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT TO ENSURE THAT MORE ACCURATELY IT'S MORE SIGNAGE AND SO FORTH.
WE'D BE GLAD TO DO THAT AND GET BACK TO WELL ON THE ONE HAND ON EIGHT, UH
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR TO A SMALL BUSINESS PERSON WHO FACES TAXES AND INVEST IN A BUSINESS, UH, AND IT'S DOWN.
AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A HUNDRED YARDS IN THIS BUSINESS, THEY DON'T PAY FOR A BUILDING OUTSIDE THEMSELVES.
AND THAT'S THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT EXPECTED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S A COUNTY ISSUE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY ARE BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT RUNNING OUT THERE TO CHECK OUT THE BACK OF SOMEBODY STATION WAGON.
YOU CAN SEE ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF WHICH THEY'RE SELLING SEAFOOD AND THE HOT SAUCE OR SOMETHING.
THE SECOND THING IS THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO STRUCTURE BY WHICH THEY CAN, UH, COLLECT SALES TAX IS NOT THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF TAXING ANYBODY ANY MORE THAN THEY ALREADY ARE, BUT IT DOES PLACE THEM WITHIN THE BAGGAGE, OVER THE LOCAL LEADERS WHO ARE FORCED TO PLAY SALES TAX.
SO THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ABOUT IT.
UH, NOT REALLY STRONG RESTRAINT OF TRADE
I GOT A CALL ASKING ME QUESTION ABOUT THE SAME THING.
WE DISCUSSED IT AT SOME LENGTH.
AS I RECALL, PERSONS WHO SELL PRODUCE, THEY RAISE OR SELL SEAFOOD.
THEY CASH ARE EXEMPTED FROM MOST OF THE CONTROLS.
THIS IS IN THE STATE LONG TIME.
WE KNOW THAT NORTH CAROLINA, RURAL AGRICULTURE, THE STATE.
SO THE PEOPLE WHO RAN THE PRODUCE AND SELL IT SEAFOOD AND SELL IT, ENJOY IT.
AND THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY EXEMPTED FROM THE PROVISIONS, UH, 1 0 5 53, I THINK IT WAS WHICH LICENSES, BUT THOSE WHO, WHO SELL PRODUCE AND SEAFOOD ARE EXEMPTED FROM THEM.
AND I THINK THAT APPLIES TO THAT ETHICS AGREEMENT.
I MENTIONED THAT HE HAD SEEN A STATUTE THAT WAS ADOPTED BY, I THINK, 1995.
AND I JUST, LIKE I MENTIONED, LIKE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, I ASKED HIM WHICH SESSION, BUT, UH, HE SAID THAT HIS RECOLLECTION WAS THAT THIS STATUTE REQUIRED THAT IT BE REFRIGERATION RESTAURANT.
SO I LOOKED AT WHAT, DURING THE AMENDED TIME I HAD, WHILE I WAS WORKING ON HIS FRANCHISE DEALER, I COULDN'T FIND HIM.
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THAT VOICEMAIL TRAPS.HE SAID HE HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK, BASICALLY THERE'S VERY LITTLE THAT CAN BE DONE.
NOW, AS MIKE SAID, AND AS A NOTE SAID, THIS IS A MEMO ADDRESSED TO BARNARD.
THEY CHECKED WITH OTHER COACH FROM ME.
AND THAT'S ABOUT IT IS MY INITIAL SURVEY OF COASTAL MUNICIPALITIES THAT REVEALED THAT WIDE RANGE OF REGULATIONS THAT RUN THE GAMUT FROM NO REGULATION TO ASSIGNING ROADSIDE VENDORS AND OTHER TEMPORARY USES TO A SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICT FOR A VERY LIMITED TIME.
I DON'T THINK THE CITY ENJOY MUCH SUCCESS IN TRYING TO REGULATE, OKAY.
I REALLY SERIOUSLY QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THOSE PEOPLE ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND CALL THEM, BUT HOW YOU, IF I GO OUT AND CATCH SHRIMP IS GOING IN MY FRIDGE, IT'S DOGS.
ONE THING I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, CAUSE I'VE BEEN SOLID IN THE AGENDA.
IF WE START TALKING ABOUT SEAFOOD VENDORS, WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE PRODUCE VENDORS, THEN WE'RE GOING INCORPORATE YARD SALES, GIRL SCOUT, COOKIE SALES.
WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE ALL THAT STUFF INTO SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT TO BEAT INTO.
IS THERE A LETTER I'M NOT,
ANYWAY, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER AGAIN?
I WOULDN'T SAY WHEN THE REST OF THE BOARD FELT ABOUT IT, THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEY'RE, UH, THEY HAVE THESE HANDICAP, NOT STICKERS, BUT SIGNS.
ARE THEY HANGING IN THE WINDOWS AND DOWNTOWN, UH, DANNY AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, THEY GET TWO HOURS.
I THINK PARKING, IF THEY PARK ON A PUBLIC STREET AND THEY'RE THEIR, UH, CONCERN TO ME WAS TWO HOURS.
WASN'T SUFFICIENT FOR THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR HANDICAP.
AND THEY, IT TAKES THEM A WHILE TO GET WHERE TO GO.
AND SOMETIMES THAT REST A WHILE BEFORE THEY GET BACK.
AND THANK GOD, I CAN'T RELATE TO THAT AT LEAST SO FAR IN MY LIFE.
AND I HOPE THAT'S THE WAY QUITE TIME, BUT IN TRYING TO REASON THROUGH IT, I THOUGHT IF TWO HOURS WAS SUFFICIENT PERSON WITH NORMAL WHEELS UNDERNEATH THEM, SO TO SPEAK, THEN, UH, I GUESS THAT'S A BAD TERM, BUT A NORMAL WAY TO GET AROUND.
THEN I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT WOULD, THAT IT MADE SENSE TO GIVE SOMEBODY AT A HANDICAP A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, IN MY OPINION.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT HOW LONG WOULD BE A GOOD TIME.
AND, UH, THEY SEEM TO FEEL LIKE THEY CAN GET BY ON THE FALLOUT.
WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S A SIX OF A 24 HOURS AS FAR AS THE HEATER.
I MEAN, YOU CALCULATE A LOT OF WAYS, BUT MY POINT IS THAT I DON'T THINK DOES THAT MEAN HANDICAP PEOPLE? AND IF WE TO DIFFERENTIATE THE HANDICAPPED IN OTHER WAYS, WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD WE BE DIFFERENTIATING THEM IN THE TIME THEY GET INTO PARKING SPACE? I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S HARD FOR US TO RELATE TO THEM, NOT HANDICAP.
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT MYSELF IN THERE, YOU'RE FINDING MOST OF THE HANDICAP PARKING SPACE AVAILABLE.
SO I CONSIDERED NOT, PROBABLY NOT THAT MUCH THE MAN.
SO THEY HAVE TO, TO HOW MANY HANDICAP SPACE PUBLIC PARK.
I THINK IT'S A LOT LESS
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I HAD IT AT ONE TIME, JUST PROBABLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
NOW LET ME CONTINUE THAT AVENUE OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE I ASKED HER ONE TIME, IF IT COULD BE DETERMINED FOR ME, IF THE TWO HOUR MAXIMUM DEALER APPLIED TO THE HANDICAP PARKING AND THE REASON BEING THERE IS A HANDICAPPED SPACE AND HE HAD A BLOCK OF PARKING, WHICH ONE OF THEM IN PARTICULAR, THAT IS HOW THEY DOWNTOWN BUSINESS USES EIGHT HOURS EVERYDAY IS ITS COST.
THE MERCHANT WHO WAS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THAT PARKING SPACE, A CUSTOMER OF MOREHEAD CITY, BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER, THEY JUST CAN'T GET IT TO SCORE TO THE BOARD BECAUSE THE HANDICAP SPACE IS ALWAYS OCCUPIED BY AN EMPLOYEE OF A STORE DOWNTOWN.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT IN THAT THIS IS THE MERCHANTS CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR THEMSELVES AND LETTING EMPLOYEES TAKE UP THE AVAILABLE PARKING RATHER THAN MAKING IT AVAILABLE TO THE CUSTOMERS.
BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED SOME HANDICAPPED PARKING ON THE STREETS OF NEWBURGH, BUT CAUSE I'LL GO ACCORDING TO TWO OF THOSE PARKING SPACES I IMAGINE AND STUFF, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY A STRANGER COMING TO TOWN.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? JUST DRIVE AROUND AND HOPE TO FIND THEY'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO GO INTO ADDICTS AND PLACES WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED.
AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF LIKE CONSIDERED PUTTING SOME HANDICAP PARKING ON THE STREETS OF NEWPORT.
EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THEM FROM SOME BEGINNER PARKING LOTS, JUST TO MAKE THEM MORE VISIBLE TO VISITORS THOUGHT MY ORIGINAL QUESTION.
WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR COMMENT ON EXTENDING IT FOR AWHILE
THEN WE DO THE NECESSARY WORK TO MAKE THEM ILLEGAL.
AND AGAIN, WE TALKING ABOUT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING A HANDICAP PARKING FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO PARK ON THE STREET, TWO HOURS WORTH OF HOURS.
I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE UP TO I'VE HAD ONE, I'VE HAD ONE PHONE CALL IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU KNOW, BUT I KNOW THAT AND I KNOW THERE'S A, OKAY, LET'S DO IT THE OTHER WAY.
WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT NOW? IF SOMEBODY WANT A HANDICAP STICKER OR SOUND WHATEVER PARKS FOR MORE THAN TWO HOURS BECAUSE I GET A TICKET, IS IT OKAY? WOULD IT BE UNREASONABLE, UH, ASSUME THAT IF SOMEBODY IS GIVEN A TICKET, THERE'S A THING CALLED A TICKET OR A PERSON CALLED A TICKET, GIVE HER, I GUESS, AND THAT'S THE PERSON OR PERSONS THAT GO AROUND GIVING THE TICKETS AND I'M NOT SURE.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE OR TWO OR WHATEVER.
I DON'T KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THE LOGISTICS IDEAS, BUT ANYWAY, IF WE COULD INSTRUCT THAT PERSON FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO MAKE A, A, UH, SURVEY OF HOW MANY HE SEES ON THE STREET AND, UH, LET THEM GET BY WITH A FULL HOURS FOR A REASONABLE LENGTH OF TIME.
AND LET'S GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT FOR A MONTH TO A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND SEE IF IT'S BECOME A PROBLEM OR WHATEVER.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I LIKE TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF THE HANDICAP
WELL THEN LAST
AND THEN ALSO HAVE THE TRAFFIC TICKET PERSON TO MAKE A NOTE.
AND LET'S SEE IF THERE'S A PROBLEM.
LET'S SEE IF IT CREATES A PROBLEM.
DOESN'T PRAY PROBLEMS. WELL, WHAT HAPPENS? BUT, UH, ALL I'M SAYING IS I HAVE HAD SOMEBODY, A COUPLE FOLKS COMING TO BE AND, UH, PROPOSE IT AND AGAIN, AND THINKING THROUGH IT, I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND
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WHY IF ENABLED BODY PERSON GETS TWO HOURS.AND IF WE DO DIFFERENTIATE HANDICAP PEOPLE, WHICH WE DO CHOOSE, AND IT STANDS TO REASON THEY SHOULD GET SOMETHING MORE THAN TWO HOURS TO ACCOMPLISH WHATEVER IT IS THEY'RE TRYING TO DO DOWNTOWN.
WELL, HE SAYS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT? WELL, THE PARKING SPACES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, OUR DOLLARS, THEIR DOLLARS AND CENTS, THEY ESTIMATE THAT THERE'S ABOUT $200 FOR EACH SPACE OR 200, SOME ODD DOLLARS FOR EACH SPACE.
SO WHEN YOU ALLOW A 10, 12 PEOPLE GO DOWN THERE AND PARK MORE THAN THAT, AND YOU'RE PULLING DOLLARS OUT OF DOWNTOWN AND THERE'S ALREADY DOLLARS BEING PULLED OUT BY THEIR EMPLOYEES, AS MAX'S POINTED OUT, IT JUST IS GOING TO EXACERBATE.
THE PROBLEM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE DOWN THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE POPULAR WITH THE MERCHANTS DOWN THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLAINTS FROM THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS PEOPLE ABOUT IT.
AND I REALLY THINK MAYBE IT'S THE THING TO DO, BUT I REALLY BELIEVE THAT YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THIS THING THROUGH, BUT A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION WITH THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.
SOME OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS, THEY GOING TO HAVE SOME DEFINITE OPINIONS LAST THAT WE HAVE, AND I'M SITTING ON BASICALLY WATSON AD HOC COMMITTEE MADE A FAMILY MEMBER AND THEY'RE DISCUSSING A VERY THING ABOUT MAYBE EVEN LOOKING AT IT IN THREE HOURS, FOUR HOURS.
SO, AND WE HAVE HAD SOME MONITORS
AND THEN IF NEGATIVE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO CONSIDER, AND HE WAS PLANNING ON COMING TO THIS BOARD WITH SOME REQUESTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE APARTMENT, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY LITTLE BIT, WELL, IT COULD BE WITH SAFETY AND JUST MY GUT FEEL FROM THAT.
I HAVE LESS OF THAT 47 POINTS.
BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY THAT MY FEELING IS THAT IF THEY'RE THINKING THAT THE AVERAGE CITIZEN MAY BE ABLE TO GO TO THREE OR FOUR HOURS, WE PROBABLY WEREN'T AREAS TOO BAD AND HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION FOR THE HANDICAP.
BUT AT LEAST THEN YOU WILL TAKE IT BEFORE THEM TO DISCUSS IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT WELL, GET BACK ON BOARD.
AND IF YOU GIVE US STILL, I'D SAY THAT MEET THE SECOND REGULAR MEETING IS NEXT MONTH, WE CAN GIVE YOU A GOOD REPORT ON THAT.
THAT MAY ALLOW YOU TO DO IT WITHOUT A FAULT, OR YOU MAY WANT THAT'S FINE.
AND THEN IF ANYBODY GETS IN A DIRE STRAIGHT OUT THERE AND YOUR HANDICAP USE MY PARKING SPOT RIGHT BEHIND CITY HOME,
THAT PATH IS IN THE CURRENT ISSUE OF SOUTHERN LIVING, WHICH IS NOW BEING RECEIVED BY SUBSCRIBERS, BUT NOT EXPANDING YET.
THERE'S A TWO PAGE ARTICLE ABOUT NEWBURN THAT LISTS A NUMBER OF THE BUSINESSES.
AND IT'S BASICALLY SAYING THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS NICE GOING ON A NEW BIRD BESIDES CRIME PASS, WHICH IS REALLY THE JUUL NAMES, A LOT OF MERCHANTS, UH, THEIR RELATIONSHIP, WHAT THEY DEAL IN, ET CETERA.
LET ME, LET ME SAY ONE THING BEFORE.
UH, POLICE, THE POLICE ROSTER HAS BEEN, IT'S BEEN A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPTED IN THE SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
AND THEN THAT'S THAT'S MINORITY IN THE BLACK SECTION, BUT WE HAVE OTHER HISPANICS, SEVERAL OTHERS.
OH, YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH TREMENDOUS EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT ASK.
AND WE'RE STILL CONTINUING WITH THAT IN ALL OF OUR RECRUITS.
ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE WE ADJOURN AND KNOW Y'ALL WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE WITH ALL MY TRIP ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND DOWN THROUGH CALIFORNIA, ACROSS THE SOUTH.
AND AFTER MILWAUKEE BACK ACROSS AGAIN, I'VE TOLD SEVERAL
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PEOPLE THIS, BUT UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANYBODY ELSE HAS EVER TOLD.Y'ALL ONE THING THAT NEVER HAPPENED IN THIS COUNTRY IS IT'LL NEVER GIVE OUT OF CORN.
I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING TO SAY FOR EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA BOY, TO SAY, AFTER ALL THAT AND LEARNED THAT.
BUT ONE DAY WE TRAVELED A ONE DAY, ONE PERIOD OF TIME FOR A DAY AND A HALF AND NEVER LEFT CORN.
AS FAR AS I CAN SEE ON THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT.
AND I TELL SOMEBODY ELSE TODAY THAT WAS OFF TO SLEEP.
ONE TIME I WAS GUS AND I THOUGHT THE CAR WASN'T MOVING INSIDE, HE GOT KILLED.
I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS CAN HAPPEN IN A DEMOCRACY.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT SALES A GREAT COUNTRY.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN AMERICA FIRST, YOU GO SEE IT.
AND UH, THEN YOU'LL COME BACK AND NEWBURN AND IT'LL LOOK PRETTY GOOD.
HERE'S ANOTHER EASTERN CAROLINA MINUTE BROUGHT TO YOU BY FIRST CHOICE MORTGAGE, ALWAYS YOUR FIRST CHOICE IN FINANCING OR REFINANCING YOUR HOME.
NEWBORNS MARKET DOCS HAVE A FOOT OF MIDDLE STREET WHERE ONCE THE CENTER OF COMMERCE AS SMALL BOATS AND RIVER STEAMERS, BLY OF THE RIVERS AND CREEKS OF EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA, CARRYING PASSENGERS AND FREIGHT MANNY, YOU STILL REMEMBER THE TOWN'S GRAND OLD HOTEL THAT GASSED IN THE HOUSE BUILT IN THE 1850S ABOUT DESTROYED BY A FIRE IN 1965.
WATER HAS ALWAYS PLAYED A PART IN THE HISTORY OF NEWBURN CONTINUES TO ATTRACT BOTH VISITORS AND RETIREE 1907 TO THE WORLD WAR II, US COAST GUARD CUTTER PAMLICO MADE NEW BURNICH HOME.
IT IS FINALLY REMEMBERED FIRST CHOICE I THINK I THINK.