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SUPPOSE THE BUILDING IS ALREADY EXISTED AND THEY WANTED TO RECOVER IT WITH METAL OR VINYL TO BE ACCEPTED.
METAL WOULD NOT, I DON'T MEAN FOR A NEW BUILDING
SO WHAT IT REALLY GETS DOWN TO IS NOT ACTUALLY THE MATERIAL THAT THE BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED, BEING METAL, TRYING TO AVOID, JUST THROWING UP A BIG SLAB SIDE OF THE WAREHOUSE, LOOKING BUILDING.
AND I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THIS ALL NIGHT LONG THINKING.
SO WHY ISN'T THE ORDINANCE WRITTEN TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT THE STRUCTURAL MATERIAL, IT'S THE WAY THE BUILDING DESIGN, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT QUESTION? WRITTEN VERY STRINGENT WITHIN THEIR BORDERS AND THEY DO EXTRA PRESSURE SCALE ON WHICH, UH, FUNDAMENT FUNDAMENTALLY, UH JAGEN I MEAN, TO INTERRUPT, BUT FUNDAMENTALLY HERE, WHAT THE REAL CORE ISSUE HERE IS I'LL REPHRASE IS THAT TO EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS THE ISSUE, WHAT YOU REALLY NEED IS AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD.
YOU NEED A CITIZENS' COMMITTEE THAT LOOKS AT DESIGN.
WHAT, WHAT HAS HAPPENED, UNFORTUNATELY, AS WE'VE GOTTEN TO SUCH A DEGREE OF, OF WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE NOW NO LONGER BUILDING THE CIVIC ARCHITECTURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ACCUSTOMED TO THE TRADITIONS OF BUILDING DESIGN.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE CAN'T RELIVE THE PAST, BUT WE'RE NOT BUILDING FOR THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF BUILDING DESIGN.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE HAVING ARGUMENTS FOR THREE HOURS ABOUT BUILDING SHEETING MATERIALS.
WHEN REALLY THE ISSUE IS FUNDAMENTALLY, THE HEART ISSUE IS WE NEED BETTER STANDARDS IN TERMS OF EDUCATING BOTH THE PUBLIC, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND PLANNERS, ET CETERA, ABOUT QUALITY DESIGN THAT'S THAT'S THE ISSUE.
NOW WE ARE DOING IT ON A LIMITED SCALE.
WE DO DESIGN REVIEW EVERY MONTH, EVERY DAY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT NOT ONLY COVERS EXISTING HISTORIC BUILDINGS, BUT IT ALSO COVERS NEW BUILDINGS.
AND I THINK YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S MADE AN IMPACT DOWNTOWN WITH DESIGN AND AS AN ADMINISTRATOR AND A STAFF PERSON WHO WORKS WITH OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
I CAN TELL YOU, IT IS A, IT IS A PROCESS THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME, BUT THE TIME IS WELL WORTH IT, BUT IT WORKS.
THE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE BEING BUILT IN DOWNTOWN NEWBURGH ARE BUILDINGS THAT ARE FOR THE FUTURE, AS WELL AS FOR THE PRESENT, THE OWNERS HAVE INVESTED THE MONEY, THE TIME, THE ENERGY AND THOSE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN REVIEW HAD INVESTED THEIR TIME, TALENT, AND ENERGY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, BUT THE END RESULT IS WE ARE GETTING BUILDINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ENHANCE DON'T DETRACT FROM THE CHARACTER OF OUR DOWNTOWN AND BUILD UPON THE FUTURE.
WE'RE CREATING A LEGACY FOR THE FUTURE.
AND QUITE TRUTHFULLY, WHAT WE NEED IS THIS KIND OF A STANDARD APPROACH TO BE APPLIED TO ALL OF OUR COMMERCIAL ENTRANCES.
THAT'S WHAT WILL WORK THAT WILL ELIMINATE THE SUBJECTIVITY THAT THE SUBJECTIVITY GOES INTO.
THE ISSUE OF HAVING A COMMITTEE THAT'S EXPERIENCED.
YOU HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE DEVELOPERS, YOU HAVE ARCHITECTS, YOU HAVE LAY PEOPLE, YOU HAVE A VARIETY OF PEOPLE COME TOGETHER AND THEY WORK TO HELP ON THE DESIGN ISSUE, BUT WE'RE SO AFRAID OF DESIGN, DESIGN AND WORK.
WE'RE SO ACCUSTOMED TO THIS IDEA THAT DESIGN COSTS MONEY.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT YOU COULD SPEND X NUMBER OF THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WERE SPENT ON ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS DOWN HERE AND COULD HAVE BUILT SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE AND DETRACTED FROM THE CHARACTER OF THESE BUILDINGS.
DESIGN DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN MORE MONEY.
YOU CAN DO THINGS ECONOMICALLY THAT CAN WORK,
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BUT WHAT IT TAKES IS SITTING DOWN AND WORKING.AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE TOOL IN PLACE FOR THAT.
INITIALLY IN 1992, WHERE WE DEVELOPED THE ENTRANCEWAY QUARTER OVERLAY DISTRICTS, OUR INITIAL DRAFT STATEMENTS CALL FOR THE CREATION OF AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, BASICALLY WORKING WITH THE APPEARANCE COMMISSION TO SERVE IN THAT FUNCTION WITH THE DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, THAT SECTION WAS ELIMINATED.
SO WE WERE LEFT WITH REALLY HALF OF A TOOL.
AND THE HALF OF THE TOOL WAS THAT EXISTING, UH, THAT EXISTING, UH, STANDARDS WE WOULD HAVE TO USE WOULD HAVE TO BE WRITTEN IN SUCH A MANNER THAT THE PLANNING STAFF COULD APPLY IT WITHOUT FUNCTIONING AS A DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE, BECAUSE WE THAT'S REALLY BEYOND OUR AUTHORITY TO SIT THERE AND DICTATE, YOU KNOW, METAL VERSUS WOOD VERSUS WHATEVER.
AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS REALLY A SYMPTOMATIC RESPONSE TO THE LACK OF ARCHITECTURE.
WE'RE NOT CREATING ARCHITECTURE ANYMORE WITH A LOT OF OUR BUILDINGS, WE'RE CREATING WAREHOUSES.
AND WHAT DOES THAT DO LONGTERM FOR THE VIABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY OF NEWBURGH? ARE WE CREATING BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HERE FOR OUR FUTURE, THAT WE'RE LIVING FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS THAT WE'RE PROUD OF? OR ARE WE CREATING SOMETHING THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR ME? AND THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT.
AND THAT'S SO OFTEN, UNFORTUNATELY IS THE ATTITUDE WE FACE.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A STEP FORWARD TO SAY, WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE TRADITIONS OF BUILDING THAT WE'RE SO PROUD OF THAT REALLY HAS BEEN SUSTAINABILITY FOR NEWBURG.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT SPEECH AND I'M GLAD YOU MADE IT BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
I AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID ABOUT US BEING IN THE CROSSROADS AND NEWBURN IS NOW IN A POSITION TO PROVE OR DISPROVE THAT OLD SAYING YOU ALWAYS HURT.
THE MERCHANTS IS DOING IT WITH THEIR PARKING MATCHES DOWNTOWN.
NOW LETTING THEIR EMPLOYEES, IT TAKES UP THE PARKING SPACES THAT WE FOUGHT SO HARD TO GET AND BEGIN TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM GOING TO THE MALLS WHERE THEY PARKED JUST AS FAR OUT AND WALK JUST AS FARM AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY THEY'LL DO IT.
WE GOT THE PEOPLE, WE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER AND GOT THE BUSINESS BACK.
AND NEWBURN IS A VERY THRIVING TOWN.
NOW, MUCH AS I'VE TRAVELED, I SEE DESERTED DEAD, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICTS, BUSINESS DISTRICTS.
WE HAVE A THRIVING DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT IN NEWBURN, AND WE'RE HURTING IT WITH THE PARKING SITUATION.
AND I THINK THAT PROLIFERATION OF THESE WAREHOUSE TYPE BUILDERS WILL DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.
WE'LL DO IT WHERE THE CROSSROADS.
NOW, IF WE GO IN THAT DIRECTION, IT IS GOING TO HURT.
THE NEXT GENERATION MIGHT SAY IT IS HUMAN NATURE FOR BUSINESSMAN TO WANT TO BUILD THE BUILDING AS CHEAPLY AS HE POSSIBLY CAN.
AND A METAL BUILDING IS THE WAY TO DO IT, THROW UP THAT METAL BUILDING.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT, IS IT THE METAL? I DON'T THINK IT'S THE METAL.
I THINK I'VE SEEN METAL BUILDINGS, WHICH LOOK GOOD, BUT THEY'RE NOT SLAPS OUT OF WAREHOUSES.
THEY HAVE BEEN ARCHITECTURALLY DESIGNED BECAUSE THAT'S REDUNDANT, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN DESIGNED TO INCORPORATE FACADES, WHICH MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.
UH, ARE WE GOING TO NOW START PUTTING THE BIG SHEETS OF THE BIG SLABS OF ALUMINUM BACK OVER THE FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN NEWBURGH, DOWNTOWN NEWBURN IT'S OF ALL THESE YEARS TO RIP ALL THAT METAL OFF AND SHOW WHAT WAS UNDER IT.
AND NOW WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK ON THE FACE OF ALL OF OUR OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PUTTING THIS OFF A LITTLE WHILE.
I HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT ANOTHER ISSUE, ANOTHER ITEM HERE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH PUTTING THIS OFF.
YOU MAY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE HEARD ENOUGH, BUT I WILL.
I, I HOPE WHEN THE MOTION IS MADE TO DELAY THIS, IT IS NOT TO DELAY UP TO, OH NO, WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT.
AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS IT.
LET'S CHANGE THE WORK SESSION.
I THINK THIS IS STILL IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE OF NEWBURN AND IT SHOULDN'T BE DONE IN THE SESSION WHERE THAT CAMERA IS COVERING IT.
SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE WE STAND AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION WITH THAT, UNDERSTANDING THIS CLOSED PUBLIC.
OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR IT.
I WAS MAD A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AND CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE CALL THE ROLL ON THAT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
WELL, THE HEARING IS CLOSED NOW, UH, WITH THE IDEA THAT WE ARE GOING, WE ARE VOTING ON THIS SIMPLY TO PUT IT OFF, TO GIVE US TIME, TO OBTAIN MORE INFORMATION.
AND AT THAT TIME WE CAN CHANGE THE WAY WE WANT TO MOVE THAT THIS ORDINANCE TO BE ADOPT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT MAY CALL THE ROAD.
NEXT THING IS A CONSENT AGENDA AND WE PULLED OUT NUMBER 11, 11, UM, BECAUSE YOU HAD TO DO WRITING TO IT.
SO YOU GO, I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
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OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.ANYBODY YOU GOT, YOU HAVE ANY MISCELLANEOUS MISCELLANEOUS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY BACKLINKS? BUT IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE, PLEASE.
YOU DON'T HAVE BEARING ON WHAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH, BUT I THOUGHT TO PUT IT OFF.
LASTLY, WHAT DO WE HAVE? OKAY, MR. WALL,
DO WE NEED TO DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE DETAILS OF SOME OF THEM? GET IT OUT OF MY HAIR.
I DIDN'T HEAR THE MOST EIGHT MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THAT SETTLEMENT PAPER BY THE COURT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WAS THAT OKAY? WE NEED TO CALL IT A ROLE THAT WAS TOWARDS THIS.