* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:32] WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND WE'LL OPEN IT WITH A PRAYER BY WRAPPING FREEMAN WHITE OF THE UNITED MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH. OH, UNDERSTAND TO LISTEN AND TO RAISE WHATEVER AMEN. UH, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HERE. UM, OKAY. UNDERSTAND THAT CALL THE WOMAN LEAVES A LITTLE BIT SICK AND UNDER THE WEATHER AND WE WISH OUR BEST AND HOPEFULLY MUST BE RECOVERED. FIRST THING WE HAVE TONIGHT IS A SEWER UPDATE BY THE CITY ENGINEER. VOD EFFICIENCY WAS 90% UM, ALSO IN THIS FORMULA, UM, TECHNICAL INFORMATION TO THE CITY OFFICIALS ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, OKAY, NEXT THING WE HAVE, EXCUSE ME, IS THE SECOND YEAR. AND I BELIEVE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A 1997 AND CDBG HOUSING DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION. AND WE'VE GOT A PRESENTATION, UM, WHILE WE'RE HERE OR THE CATEGORY, WHICH IS THERE TO PROMOTE [00:05:05] AND THEY'RE GOING TO BREED PRESENTED REPORTS SAYING, THANKS FOR APPLYING. HERE'S THE, JUST A COUPLE OF THE APARTMENTS OR PER MONTH, WHICH IS NOT A HUNDRED OFF. AND THESE BALLS FOR A MINUTE OR LESS MARKET VALUE IS BECAUSE OF THIS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, THE $4 MILLION AND THIS PRODUCT, UH, IN MOVIE, BASICALLY USING LOCAL CONTRACT AS MONEY TURNS OUT THAT THIS INVESTMENT LOCAL ECONOMY , UH, HERE FULFILLING, UH, UH, UH, THE PARKS WOULD BE VERY NICE. THEY'RE NEITHER THE MARKET OR THE TARGET, THE 20,000, $20,000 A YEAR. SO THEY TALKING ABOUT BUCKS AND NOW, UH, SYNCHRONY IS COMMITTED TO SEEING THIS PRODUCT HAPPEN IN LA . UH, HE'S GOT SOME INFORMATION, UH, SENIOR HOSPITAL ACADEMIC WRITING AND WORKING WITH PLAYERS. AND OF COURSE THE SCHOOL OR, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, WE'RE GOING TO SERVE. UH, SO LATER THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE ENTITY ALTOGETHER, BUT KIND OF HOW HASN'T IT? UH, OH, THIS IS DEPARTMENT SITE HERE IN IS 5.7, FIVE EIGHT. ALL RIGHT. HAVE WE'VE GOT AN ENGINEER DESIGNED SANCTUARY, UH, BUT, UH, THAT'S ABOUT IT OTHER THAN THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING AND TRYING TO GIVE IT A, UH, , UH, THEY WERE A LITTLE, IT LOOKED LIKE THIS, UH, AND OF COURSE, UH, STAFF, YOUR STAFF WERE VERY HELPFUL IN COMING UP WITH AND ALL THAT. SO WE CAN GREAT. REQUESTING $250,000. THE STATE, THE CITY THROUGH THE PARTNERSHIP FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS WOULDN'T BE THE ONE THAT THEY LITERALLY PAYS YOUR LOSS PERIOD. UM, S STRUCTURED AND 2.4 [00:10:07] AND THEY HAD A CHANCE, THE APPLICATION PROCESS, AND THEY HAD A CHANCE TO MEET THEIR NUMBERS, THEIR ABILITY TO PAY ON THAT. BUT I, IT WILL BE ALLOWED AND WILL BRING MONEY BACK INTO THE CITY. IN ADDITION, THAT SUPPLY, I THINK, HEARD THE NEED FOR . AND AS I WENT OUT ON BOARD, IT'S REALLY A . SO, UM, WE APPLY FOR THE GRANT AND WE LEND THE GRANT MONEY TO THEM. THEY REPAY US WITH INTEREST OVER 30 YEARS. SO $250,000 COULD BE PROTESTED ABOUT $1.5 MILLION AMORTIZED OVER 30 YEARS WITH INTEREST POTENTIALLY COULD BE IN THE MID, AT LEAST A MILLION. YEAH, THE DETAILS WE'LL HAMMER IT OUT WITH HIM. ONCE WE FIND OUT WE'LL BRING THIS BACK. THIS MONEY IS, IT COMES BACK HERE. IT HAS NO STRINGS ATTACHED TO IT. DEATH. WE CAN SPEND IT WHEREVER THE NEED IS. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT BOUND BY THE BLOCK GRANT AT THAT POINT OFF. UH, ESSENTIALLY IF FOR SOME REASON THEY ASK A LARGE SMALL SONG, THEN WHY THE LOSS THERE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL. SO IT'S A WIN-WIN SITUATION. YES. WHAT ARE THE OTHER PICTURES SHOW? BASICALLY, ARROWS. I MADE IT AT THE SAME AREA. OH, OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD ALREADY DEVELOPED IT, UH, AT ELEVATION. WHEN WOULD YOU START PAYING THE MONEY BACK IN THE FIRST YEAR? BUT WHAT I WAS THINKING IS CENSUS SODA. OTHER WORDS, WE'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR THIS LION AND GET THIS MONEY GIVING MONEY TO YOU, WOULD YOU ARE GOING TO TURN INTO THESE AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS, WHICH IS TO HELP US SOLVE AS FAR AS OUR SIDE OF IT, TO HELP US SOLVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE IN NEWBURGH. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO IMMEDIATELY START TO PAY US THE 250,000 BACK WITH INTEREST OVER 30 YEARS, GOOD. AND WE USE THAT MONEY IMMEDIATELY AND TURN IT BACK IN TO HELP IN SOME OTHER CDB, TIGHT NEEDY FOLKS AND MULTIPLY THAT MONEY. I MEAN, CAUSE WE'RE NOT FINISHED WITH THE PROBLEM WITH THE FIRST 74 HOUSES, WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER THINGS ON THE BURNER. SO I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A REAL WAY TO LEVERAGE THE MONEY AND, AND, UH, HELP SOME FOLKS OUT. LIKE I HAD ONE, BUT I FORGOT WHAT IT, THAT COMES ALONG WITH WHAT MAX IS. IT WAS BASICALLY THE SAME THING WE TALKED ABOUT. I MEAN, IT'S, I CAN'T SEE MUCH DIFFERENCE IN IT. AND IT WAS A GOOD PLAN. UH, GOING BACK TO THE SCREEN WOULD IT HELP US WITH, OR IS IT MONEY? UH, GRANTED STRICTLY ON HIS MERIT. SO WOULD IT HELP US IF WE WERE TO SHOW THAT WE CAN TAKE THE PAYMENTS BACK FROM THEM AND ACTUALLY DO EVEN MORE, IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE TURN AND $50,000 AND COME OUT WITH A BIGGER NET EFFECT THAN YOU NORMALLY [00:15:01] WOULD. YOU COULDN'T BILL AND LAST ANYONE AGAINST THIS PROJECT, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'RE CLOSING THE BUBBA HERE AND SAY, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF MOTION TO MAKE THE APPLICATION PROJECT APPLICATION. AND ROBERT SAYS, SPEAKING TO HIS AGENT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE DON'T NEED A ROLL CALLS. I CAN'T DO IT ALL IN FAVOR. SAY, AYE. WELL, I MAKE THE MOST WE A SYNERGETIC SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA YOU MIGHT CALL ROLLING. YES, YES, YES, YES, YES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT THING WE HAVE IS APPOINTMENTS MAX. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY PILLS? I DON'T HAVE ANY THAT I'M ALLOWED TO MAKE MR. REINER. NO, SIR. NOPE. ABOUT SOME MISCELLANEOUS, ANY OF THAT, UH, ALL OF THEM ARE WITH DOUBT AS A NOMINATION DELAY, THE APPEARANCE COMMISSION, AND I THINK SAID WE'RE EVEN HAD TROUBLE FINDING SOME OF THE NOMINATE. WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER? THE BOARD HAVE ANY OBJECTION OF ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE BOARD COME IN AND FILL THOSE POSITIONS. THAT'S FINE. I MADE A FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT ON TELEVISION AND GOT NO RESPONSE. SO I GOT A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT ARE FAR AND BRITTANY IN REQUESTING TO BE PLACED ON AN ADVISORY BOARD LONG. WELL, THAT ONE WAS, UH, THAT WAS THE APPEARANCE COMMISSION. AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN MIND. I WAS JUST THINKING, IT'D BE GOOD TO GO AHEAD AND FILL THESE POSITIONS. IF SOMEONE ELSE HAS SOMEBODY AVAILABLE, I WOULD AGREE. AND ROBERT SAID HE HAD, I NEED TO GET ON THE FIELD BECAUSE THEY SIT THERE AND EMPTY AND IT JUST DRAGS DOWN THAT COMMITTED. THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE MISCELLANEOUS. I GOT ONE THING AND WON'T TAKE, BUT A SECOND, I GUESS THE NEWSPAPER CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY ASKING ABOUT OUR TRAFFIC COALITION. TIME'S UP? ONE OF THE THINGS I'M MOST SAY THE SECOND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OFFICER WAYMAN ASKED ME ABOUT WAS THAT WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE RIGHT NOW TO BE SITTING ON THAT BOARD. AND HE, HE JUST, HE FEELS AT SEVEN. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. HE'S GOING TO NEED. HE'D LIKE FOR EACH OF US TO APPOINT AN EXTRA PERSON, TO HAVE 14 PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING, THEY'RE GOING TO BE HELPING WITH TRAFFIC COUNTS. AND IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE MORE PEOPLE THAN WE PUT UP. SO I NEED SOME HELP FROM YOU GUYS. OKAY. THAT'S JUST LIKE HAVING SEVERAL MORE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD. WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO DO BESIDES JUST SIT IN AN OFFICE AND SIT IN A ROOM SOMEWHERE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING A LOT OF THINGS TO HELP THEM IN THE FIELD. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO GET ONE PERSON FROM EACH ALDERMAN AND A IS FINE. THAT'S APART ONE BY THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. OKAY. WELL I THINK I QUOTE A SECOND. I'VE GOT SOMEONE WHO ALREADY WANTS TO BE OVER THERE IF WE STILL HAVE TO THINK I'LL HAVE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE IT. THAT'S ALL A CITY. MANAGER'S GOT A COUPLE OF MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. UH, YOU HAVE A COPY BEFORE YOU THE RECENT CIVIL SERVICE REGISTER. UH, THE NUMBER FOUR NAME NEEDS TO BE PULLED FROM THIS REGISTER, BUT, UH, THE OTHER FOUR NAMES, UH, OUT OF THE FIVE, UH, ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, UH, FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BY THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARDS. YES. MOVING AWAY EXCEPT THESE NAMES IN ORDER SECOND IN THE ELIMINATION OF THE NUMBER OF WHOLE, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, DO YOU NEED A ROLL CALL [00:20:01] FOR THAT? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED. ISN'T IT. OKAY. THE LAST THING THAT I HAVE TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT IS, UH, IT'S, IT'S IRONIC THAT WE WERE TALKING TODAY WITH THE PRESS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, ACTIONS OF THE CITY DURING THE RECENT HURRICANES THAT WE HAD FRAN AND BERTHA. AND I, IF YOU ALL WILL RECALL WHEN WE'VE HAD EVENTS THAT WERE SIGNIFICANT, THAT COSTS OUR EMPLOYEES, LARGE AMOUNTS OF TIME IN THE PAST, UH, WE'VE REWARDED THEM BY GIVING THEM A LITTLE STIPEND OR SOMETHING TO HELP THEM SO THEY COULD TAKE THEIR FAMILIES OUT TO EAT OR WHATEVER THIS IS. IT'S BEEN, UH, SO CLOSE TO CHRISTMAS NOW. AND BECAUSE OF TAX LAW CHANGES AND THINGS, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD IS THAT WE WOULD, UH, FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED EMPLOYEES THAT ARE INVOLVED, I HAVE IT ON MY DESK, UH, THAT WORKS SO MUCH EXTRA DURING THE STORM. WE'D LIKE TO AWARD THOSE EMPLOYEES AN ADDITIONAL $25 GIFT CERTIFICATE OVER AND ABOVE THE NORMAL. IT'S ABOUT $25 CERTIFICATE THAT THEY GET FROM THE CITY CHRISTMAS. UH, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, REALLY ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES, UH, PARTICIPATED IN THESE EVENTS TO A LARGE EXTENT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THAT A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD ALLOW THOSE EMPLOYEES TO HAVE, UH, THE HALF A DAY ON CHRISTMAS EVE OFF THAT, UH, WE NORMALLY, WE GIVE THEM TWO AND A HALF DAYS FOR CHRISTMAS. AND I'D LIKE FOR THE BOARD THIS ONE TIME TO, UH, APPROVE A THREE-DAY HOLIDAY FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES SO THAT THEY GET THAT HALF DAY AS AN ADDITIONAL STIPEND FROM THE CITY FOR AN APPRECIATION FOR WHAT THEY DID DURING THE TIME OF THOSE STORMS. SO MOOD SEC, I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT, I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THEM GOT ALL KINDS OF PAIN AND EVERYTHING, IT TOOK THEM AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES AT A TIME WHEN THEIR FAMILIES NEEDED THEM ALSO. AND I THINK THEY DO A MAGNIFICENT JOB. THEY DESERVE EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT TO GIVE. THEY DID A GREAT JOB FIGHT. I'M STILL HEARING PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT WHAT A GOOD JOB PEOPLE DIDN'T MOVE HERE FROM OTHER PLACES, PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN IN OTHER STORMS. AND ONCE AGAIN, I MAKE SURE I LOOK AROUND AND SEE IT. NOBODY KNOWS THAT I WASN'T WITH THE CALLS AND THEN I TAKE CREDIT. BUT JUST IN CASE, SOMEBODY KNOWS THAT I WASN'T, I JUST PASS ON A GOOD ANYWAY. UH, THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND THE MAYOR WILL BE ON DUTY. WE NEVER CLOSED. WE JUST NOTICE. AND SO WE'LL BE READY, BUT THE PLAN EMPLOYEES REALLY DO DESERVE ALL THE ACCOLADES. YOU CAN'T REACH ME. CALL TOM BE THE SAME SIX, THREE, SIX POUND 1 6, 5, AND THEY ALREADY KNOW IT. THEY, ONE NIGHT YOU GOT IT. OH BOY, DID WE MAKE A MOTION? DID WE VOTE ON THAT? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED, MOTION TO ADJOURN. MY STATEMENT ABOUT THE PARENTS COMMISSION THAT REALLY DIDN'T COME INTO MISCELLANEOUS THAT CAME ON HER APPOINTMENTS. I HAVE ONE QUICK MISCELLANEOUS THING, AND THAT IS, COULD WE AT THE, PERHAPS AT THE NEXT MEETING, IF THE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE, AVAILABLE, FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE TREE REPLACEMENT FROM THIS CALL ON I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE ASK, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE FALL IN TIER TO PAY FOR A REPLACEMENT WITH THE TREE, UH, FOR THE SIDES OF THE STREETS OF NEW BURTON. UH, IF THAT WOULD SPEED UP THE PROCESS OF REPLACING THE TREE. AND I JUST KINDA LIKE TO GET A REPORT WITH THE HORTICULTURAL ON ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE DAMAGE WAS AND WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. SECOND ON J'S MOTION TO RETURN. OKAY. DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT? WE ALL NEED TO DISCUSS THE * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.