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WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

AND THE PRIOR BY ELDER DARYL, THOMAS OF THE, A UNIVERSAL FAITH CHURCH OUT HERE, WE DON'T HAVE MR. SAMSON, ANYBODY ELSE? HOLD ON.

OPEN THE MEETING WITH THE PRIOR MR. HART, BY THE WAY, WANT I PRAISE YOU TONIGHT AND WORSHIP YOU.

WE GIVE YOU THE GLORY THAT'S DUE.

YOU.

WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS OUR ALDERMAN TONIGHT.

THEN THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE WOULD BE PLEASING TO YOU AND WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO ALL OF THE CITIZENS OF OUR CITY, GIVE THEM SPECIAL INSIGHT AND WISDOM AS I DEAL WITH MADISON REFORM AND HELP THEM IN JESUS NAME, AMEN, UH, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

OKAY.

YOU MAY CALL THE ROAD.

UM, OKAY.

FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS, UH, PRESENT SOME RESOLUTIONS TO, TO RETIRE AT CITY AND TOYS FROM THE NORTH CAROLINA LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITY.

WHO HAS THAT? OKAY.

DANNY I'LL THE RESOLUTIONS.

UH, WHEREAS 15 YEARS

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OKAY.

THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS TO APPOINT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE CHIEF AND ASSISTANT VOLUNTEER FIRE CHIEF AND MIKE WHITFIELD CALL ME TONIGHT AND HE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.

SO HE ASKED ME TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF, WHICH IS VERY SELDOM THAT PEOPLE ASKED ME TO SPEAK IN THERE SINCE NEITHER ONE OF US KNOW WHAT'S EVER GOING TO COME OUT OF MY HEAD.

SO I'LL KEEP MY REMARKS VERY BRIEF.

BUT, UH, MIKE HAS TO BE, I BELIEVE THE NEW CHIEF AND RICHARD BLY, WHO I THINK IS HERE.

IF I CAN SEE THAT FAR IS TO BE THE ASSISTANT CHIEF.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO DO WE NEED A MOTION OR YES.

MR. MAYOR? UH, MICHAEL SECOND.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DID WE NEED A VOICE VOTE, ROLL CALL.

JUST ALL EFFECTS ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

NO, AND IT HAPPENED.

OKAY.

NEXT THING WE HAVE IS A REPORT ON THE STORM RELATED TREE REPLACEMENT.

AND, UH, YOU HAVE TWO PAGES THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED BY ORIGINALLY.

HOWEVER, THE TOTAL NUMBERS IS THERE.

WE LOOK AT PAGE ONE, THAT'S THE OF 33 SCREEN WITH THE STANDARD WIDE RECREATION CENTER.

ALSO AN ADDITIONAL ONE OF MY SUMMITS, ANNUAL THREE'S A LOT OF SUPPLIES TODAY, 34 TREES, WHICH IS 37% REMAIN.

THE SLIDE WILL HAVE TO BE REVISITED CHECK FOR SPC AND A VARIETY OF THREE NURSERIES LOCATED FOR THIS.

UH, WE HOPE TO HAVE A REMAINDER THERE'S THIS JUST COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL BUDGET, BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF TREES TO PURCHASE.

THIS LIST WAS CHECKED BY THE FAMOUS PERSON WITH ONE OF THE INSPECTORS AND SHOW THEM EACH ONE OF THESE SITES.

DO YOU ASK THIS AFFECTING REPLANTING, CLOSE TO THESE TREES WITH THE SAME TYPE OF TREE? ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THERE? WE ARE GOING TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE TIDE IN THIS AREA IS A FACT THAT IT WILL BE SPACE OR THE AREA WHERE THE TREES WERE GROWING AND BUILDINGS.

AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF TREE WE'LL GO.

AND EACH ONE OF THESE SIDES OF RABBITS, I'VE NOTICED SOME TRADES ON NATIONAL AVENUE THAT WOULD SEVERELY DAMAGED, BUT ARE STILL STANDING.

ARE WE GOING TO CROSS OUR FINGERS AND HOPE THEY SURVIVE AND YOU'RE GOING TO PLANTS OR ANY OF THESE TREES.

AND YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE ONE-TIME SPEAKING NOW WHERE A LOT OF THE BIG LAMPS OR ARE THOSE FOR THE MOST PART IN PEOPLE'S YARDS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE THREES AS A STATE, THROUGH OUR REQUIREMENT PRESENTATION.

UH,

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UH, RESIDENT PROMPTED ME TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT REPLACEMENT OF TRIM, A COUPLE OF MISSING OVER THE MEDIAN, AND THEY INDICATED THAT THE NECESSARY THEY WOULD SUPPLY THE FUNDS THEMSELVES.

IF SOMEONE WANTED TO COME UP WITH, UH, WITH THE MONEY BY THREE, REPLACE IT ON SPENCER AVENUE, WOULD YOU BE SMILING AND HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR MONEY? I REALLY DON'T MEAN TO BE FACETIOUS.

PUBLIC DOES DO THAT EXCEPT THE CONTACTS FOR RECREATION, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT SPEED UP THE PROCESS OF , UH, NO PROBLEM.

AND THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DEDICATE BEDS THREE IN MEMORY, BARBARA PEOPLE ARE PROUD OF THEIR TREES AND THEY DON'T WANT THEM MESSING UP.

THEY WANT THEM REPLACED.

THEY, UH, THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT REPLACING THE BIG TREES WITH SOMETHING GETS THAT BIG AND PERHAPS SMALLER, BUT LEAVING THAT TO YOU RIGHT IN THAT CULTURE.

SO WHILE I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT BECAUSE I HAVE HAD SEVERAL, YOU'VE GOT SOME OF THESE TREES LISTED NUMBER 48, 3 5600 FRAN.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT ALL THE OTHERS WERE BARTLETT? EXACTLY WHAT IT IS? 47 ACTUALLY WAS A SCREEN WAS DESIGNATED ORIGINALLY.

SO THAT WAS A COMBINATION TO BIRTH, A PRETTY WELL PRIMED IT, THROWN IT OUT.

AND THAT'S ONE REASON, I GUESS THE POWER WAS TORN UP FOR SO LONG, THE FIRST TIME TOO, LIKE WE THOUGHT, OKAY, WE APPRECIATE IT.

THAT WAS ROGER HACKMAN, BY THE WAY, FOR THE VIEWING AUDIENCE.

OKAY.

NEXT THING HERE WE HAVE, LET'S SEE HERE.

DO NOT ROCK IN CHAIR.

OH, THAT'S A NOTE FROM MY WIFE.

LET ME SEE HERE.

OH, OKAY.

SO WE ASPIRE DISCUSSION ON PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A MISUSE OF MOFFITT.

MR. HARTMAN, MR. BOARD.

I AM HERE SWISS BEAR, UM, TO REQUEST THE CITY'S APPROVAL FOR SWISS BEAR, TO UNDERTAKE A CIRCULATION TRANSPORTATION ACCESS STUDY TO INCLUDE PARKING AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.

BECAUSE, UM, THROUGH OUR CURRENT PARKING COMMITTEE, WE REALIZED THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

DOWNTOWN IS REALLY AT A MAJOR CROSSROADS AND THAT PARKING IS JUST ONE CONCERN AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN A ROOM IS VERY, VERY CRITICAL, UM, BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ARE REALLY IMPACT ON THE CIRCULATION WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE BRIDGE.

THERE WILL BE REAL CHANGE WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE OLD NEWSLETTER, CERTAINLY WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER, IF IT IS CONSTRUCTED DOWNTOWN, THAT WILL CREATE A LOT OF CONCERN AND NEED TO REALLY LOOK INTO THE CIRCULATION THERE, CONTINUAL CHANGES ALL THIS DRIVE AN EMPHASIS ON THE CORNER, AROUND THE CORRIDOR, UM, FROM AMBER FIRST AND INTO THE CITY ON BROAD ENHANCEMENTS, UH, THAT WILL BE REQUIRED ONCE THE VOLUME OF ACTUAL, UM, TRAFFIC WAS PROJECTED, WHAT KIND OF ENHANCEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE TRAFFIC AND IN, UH, LOOKING AT ALL THIS AND REALIZING THAT THESE WERE CRITICAL ISSUES.

WE FELT THAT, UM, MUCH LIKE THE URBAN DESIGN WHEN WE WORKED WITH THE CITY IN COORDINATED THAT OVER, WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A PRODUCT THAT WAS A REAL POWERHOUSE FROM DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN.

WE FEEL IF WE COULD REMOVE THE CITY STAFF AND CREATING A COMMUNITY, MOST OTHER PEOPLE WOULD BEEN IN COMMUNITY THAT WE HAD ACQUIRED DATA THAT WOULD REALLY BE VALUABLE TO THE CITY, POSSIBLY EVEN LOOK FOR FUNDING SOURCES THROUGH DDOT FOR SOME OF THE ENHANCEMENTS

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TO THE BRIDGE.

UM, ALSO POSSIBLY LOOKING IN DEVELOPMENT, THE, UH, SITE NOW THAT IS OWNED BY DOD.

THAT IS THE ACCESS TO THE BRIDGE AND HOW THAT MIGHT BE A HANDS TO ITALIAN WITH AND ALL THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE WATERFRONT, INCLUDING PLANS FOR ONGOING PROMINENT THAT HAD BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME.

SOME OF THE INFORMATION ALSO THAT WE KNOW WE CAN ACQUIRE IS PROJECTIONS.

THE THOROUGHFARE STUDY WAS COMPLETED IN 92 ON SOME OF THOSE PROJECTIONS IN PARTICULAR TRAFFIC INTO THE DOWNTOWN UBER.

UM, HAVE, WE'VE HEARD OFTEN WE'RE AN ACTOR, SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VOLUME IS PROJECTED.

UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ACQUIRE.

WE HAVE MET JUNIOR MANAGE, UM, IS THE BOARD MEMBER FOR THIS AREA, UM, ASK JUNIOR VENTURES, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SYSTEMS AND TRAFFIC SAFETY TO MEET WITH US.

HE MET IN THE PAST THE OTHER DAY, IF YOU MIGHT BE MARCEL BOBBY HONORS WITH THE DIVISION OF COMMUNITY SERVICE.

AND HE ALSO BROUGHT ALONG WITH TWO INDIVIDUALS, ONE IS AN ENGINEER AND THE OTHER IS A CONGESTION PROJECT CONGESTION.

AND FORTUNATELY FOR US, DOD HAS A PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS THERE IS A MUNICIPAL, UM, TRAFFIC PRO, WHICH ALLOWS THEIR PEOPLE.

THEY HAVE SPECIALISTS LIKE YOU'RE STILL THE PERSON THAT YOU BROUGHT.

UM, THEY CAN LOOK AT CIRCULATION PATTERNS, DEVELOP ALL THIS, UM, ON ROADS THAT ARE TEAMS BECAUSE THEY, AND THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IN THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE ULTIMATELY DOES IMPACT THE DLT, UH, MAJOR RULES.

SO THIS IS A PROJECT WORKING FOR THE COMMITTEE, UM, AS WE PROPOSED WITH CITIES, THE CITY STAFF AND OTHER COMMUNITY PEOPLE, AND BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE ALL THIS DATA FOR THE CITY.

THANK YOU, ROBERT, WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION, MIKE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE CITY'S INVOLVEMENT OR, UH, AS SOON AS WE GET IN THE OTHER DAY WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PROVISION OF COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE WITH THE BRIDGES COMING IN, UM, AND THE WAY THAT THE TRANSPORTATION PARENTS ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE ONGOING PARKING, UH, CONCERNS, UH, THESE ARE SOME ISSUES AND ANSWERS THAT, UH, WE DO NEED TO HAVE A, UM, AND I THINK IT WILL WORK CLOSER TOGETHER, UH, CITY STAFF AND SWISS BANKER, AND THIS ALONG WITH THE FOLKS THAT HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THE DOWNTOWN AND SOME OF THESE ISSUES, BUT I FEEL REALLY WITH CONVENTION CENTER AND OTHER ISSUES, UH, AN UPDATE OF THIS KIND OF INFORMATION WILL HELP US OVER THE NEXT FIVE, 10 YEARS IN THE DOWNTOWN, IF NOT SOONER, DID WE NEED A MOTION TO DO THAT? OKAY.

JUST A VOICE VOTE THEN ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED.

NO IT'S DONE.

YES.

MA'AM AND HOPEFULLY IT'LL TURN OUT AS GOOD AS THE OTHER PROJECTS.

YOU ALL IT DOES.

I LIKED IT WHERE SHE'S THANKING US FOR HER.

YES.

SHE CAN TAKE ON ANOTHER JOB.

WELL, IT FEELS GOOD TO GET ALL THE COMPLIMENTS ABOUT IT, BECAUSE LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE, I'LL LOOK AROUND AND MAKE SURE NOBODY KNOWS THAT I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

I TAKE CREDIT, BUT HEY, I CHECK FIRST.

THE NEXT THING WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS THE MONTHLY REQUEST AND PETITIONS OF CITIZENS.

AND THAT MEANS FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS, THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A CITIZEN TO COME UP AND MAKE A STATEMENT, OR AS IT SAYS, A REQUEST OR WHATEVER OF THE CITY.

SO DO WE HAVE ANY MARTY ON THE FRONT ROW THAT HAS THAT DESIRE? HE'D MR. DAVIS, COME ON UP, COME FOR STATE YOUR NAME AT THE MICROPHONE.

IF YOU

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WOULD.

AND YOU'D ADDRESS HIM.

THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT CAROL THAT AT THE END OF LAST TIME, LAST, I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS SO OUR SIX AND SINCE THEN IT'S BEEN MY SON AND, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BE DONE TO BUILD A MOBILE HOME, I TALKED TO ABOUT IT CAME UP, ALSO SPOKEN AT THESE LAST, UH, WHAT MR. DAVIS, UH, IN ORDER TO GET THE ZONING CLASSIC CLASSIFICATION CHANGED.

THERE'S A PROCEDURE THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW, BUT IT'D BE QUITE FRANKLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS DOWNGRADING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

AND, UH, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO MEET WITH A LOT OF OPPOSITION FROM THE CRIMINAL COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF, I THINK THE REASON WHY THEY ARE INCREASE ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS THAT THE, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF , THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE AFTER, THERE WAS JUST TWO MINUTE TRAILERS ARE BEING, UH, MOVED IN THE PERMIT COMMUNITY AND IT WAS, UH, DECREASING THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

BUT, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO MEET WITH A LOT OF OPPOSITION IN THE PERMANENT COMMUNITY.

IF YOU TRY TO, UH, UH, CHANGE THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM A 10 TO A SIX, BUT IT CAN BE DONE.

BUT WHAT YOU PROBABLY NEED TO DO IS START WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORS AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY AND ON SHROUDING THE PROPERTY AND MAYBE GET THEIR CONSENT.

AND IF YOU PROBABLY NEED TO WORK MORE CLOSELY WITH MR. BERNARD GEORGE, HE CAN, HE, HE CAN US ASSIST YOU BECAUSE HE IS WHAT'S CALLED THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.

AND, UH, HE, HE, UH, HE HANDLES ALL THOSE MATTERS, BUT, BUT IT'S NOT PERSONAL WITH ME, BUT, BUT JUST FROM, UM, MY EXPERIENCE WITH DEALING WITH THAT AREA, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO MEET WITH A LOT OF OPPOSITION.

WELL, YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE ONLY PERSON THAT IS LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

YOU SAID YOU BOUGHT SOME LOTS AND THAT WAS PLURAL.

HOW MANY LIGHTS DID YOU BUY? SO YOU GOT TWO LOTS IN YOUR OWN.

YOU WANT TO PUT A TRAILER ON JUST ONE, I ASSUME.

WELL, YOU SAID YOUR SON, WHAT HE'S GOT, BUT I MEAN, OKAY.

BUT THAT'LL, THAT'LL TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME, RIGHT? SO MEAN HE'S JUST AFTER ONE MOBILE HOME AS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE.

AND, UH, WHAT IS THE CONSENSUS MR. GEORGE? HOW MANY OF YOU TALKED TO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE? DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBERS OR, OR ISOLATED FROM THE ADJACENT R SIX AREA PROPERTY CHANGE? WELL, I THOUGHT DON'T, WE HAVE A THING CALLED A VARIANCE.

NOT FOR THAT.

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TH THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE TO JOIN A SIX, BUT IT DOES NOT IS A 10 IN BETWEEN THE SIX, 10 IN THIS PROPERTY.

SO IF, IF WE SELL THIS PROPERTY IN SIX, SIX TO LIFE ON EITHER SIDE OKAY.

AND YOU WEREN'T OPPOSED TO THE CHANGE WHEN THEY CONTACTED ALL THE PROPERTY ON THOSE WHERE THE PEOPLE FROM .

AND AT THAT TIME, IT IS A GOOD TIME TO BE OPPOSE BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF DIFFICULT TO CHANGE.

IS THE ONLY ONE .

AND ONE OF THOSE , UM, ONLY I WAS GOING TO THE NORTH SIDE, THE ONLY OTHER SLIDE.

AND I BASICALLY, THOSE TWO PEOPLE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE THEY HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE MOBILE HOME.

UM, IT COMES DOWN TO THE AREAS.

THERE IS A PROCEDURE IN PLACE WHEN SOMEONE HOLDS A PROPERTY AND THIS SPECIFIC REASON NEEDS TO FOLLOW THAT PROCEDURE.

THERE'S NOT A PROCEDURE OR WHEREVER, LIKE HE PRESENTED PETITIONS TO YOU, THE BOARD.

AND IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PLANNING BOARD, REVIEW A NOTIFICATION ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND THEN I'M TALKING TO HEARING THAT PROCESSES IS IN PLACE, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE GOING THROUGH, UH, TO GET IT FILED THE RESOLUTION.

AND THEN FOR DRESSES AND SERGEANT, THERE'S NO WAY LEGALLY REPORTING TO DO IT.

NOW, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE WITH THOSE, THERE WERE NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN.

AND HE TOLD YOU CORRECTLY, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE BECAUSE IF YOU, IN OTHER WORDS, HE'S GOT TO PAY $200 TO GO THROUGH THE PROCEDURE.

AND THEN IF HE DOESN'T MAKE IT, HE'S OUT 200 BUCKS, BUT THAT'S THE IDEAL APPROACH SINCE WE CANNOT LEGALLY MAKE THAT CHANGE WITHOUT, I MEAN, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO PROCEDURE .

UM, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE, UH, UH, PERSONAL, WANTING TO GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS, BUT BEFORE WE COULD EVEN THINK ABOUT IT OR ANYTHING ELSE, OR IF I WAS AN BROWN WITH THE FULL LINE, THINK ABOUT SPENDING MY $200.

SINCE HE'S MENTIONED THE PETITION, WOULDN'T IT NOT BE A GOOD IDEA TO GET A PETITION OF ALWAYS PEOPLE ON THAT STREET, JUST AS HOPE.

UH, I THINK HE CHECKED ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND OTHERS, UH, AND THAT WILL GIVE BETTER ASSESSED.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

AND WE CERTAINLY COULDN'T EVEN THINK OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT, KNOWING WHAT ALL THE REST OF THE FIVES WON'T DO, THAT'S WHAT ZONING IS ALL ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE GROUP THAT LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT THEY WANT TO PLEASE, EVERYBODY.

IF I HAD THIS IN FACT, I SAID, MUST AWARD SOMEONE OWNS THE PROPERTY.

WHETHER THEY PAST ON PREVIOUS OWNERS DID NOT.

YEAH, BUT I TALKED TO THIS MAN, AVERY, HIS INTENTIONS IS THAT'S.

JASON IS TO TAKE US HOME.

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HE SAID, HE CALLED THAT DOESN'T BOTHER HIM.

SO THE ONLY PERSON TO BE IS THE PERSON THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE AGAIN.

OKAY.

THEN THERE ARE IN THIS SITUATION WITH FOREST GRANDFATHERING OR SEARCH PROVISIONS ON THAT, LET ME GO BACK TO THE NOTIFICATION THING.

ALL PROXY OWNERS WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THE AREA TO THE MUST BE NOTIFIED, REGARDLESS OF WHERE, IN WHAT LIVES ON THIS LAST PART, NOT AS A CITY ATTORNEY STATEMENT, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO BE NOTIFIED.

IT COULD BE A BABY FIELD, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE ANOTHER FIVE ACCOUNTS THAT HAVE STARTED THE RIGHTS MR. DAVIS.

I HONESTLY THINK THAT THE BEST AVENUE TO TAKE IS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCEDURE.

AGAIN, YOU CAN'T, WE CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU ANY RESULTS, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONLY WAY THAT'S GOING TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS TO BE NOTIFIED.

AND THE BOARD CERTAINLY CANNOT INITIATE A PROCEEDING, DOWNGRADING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION WITHOUT KNOWING HOW THE RESIDENTS FEEL AND SEE IT'S GOING TO BE FOR YOUR SON'S BENEFIT.

AND IT'S PROBABLY A $200 WELL SPENT.

AND YOU'LL NEVER KNOW UNLESS YOU MAKE IT JUST LIKE, IF YOU DON'T MAKE, IF YOU DIDN'T MAKE AN EFFORT TO COME UP HERE TONIGHT, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE OF SUCCEEDING.

SO IT'S, SO IT'S PROBABLY A $200.

WELL-SPENT BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING, NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

THAT'S $100 FOR ME.

IT'S NOTHING YOU THROWING AWAY TO HIM ABOUT.

THAT'S TRUE.

BUT THE THING ABOUT IT IS IF ALL WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED WITH WHEN THE NOTICE IS SAYING IS WHAT YOU'RE CALLING THE JASON PROPERTY OWNERS, RIGHT? IN OTHER WORDS, A VOICE AND SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT WITHIN THAT A HUNDRED FEET, WE SHOULDN'T LISTEN TO.

IS THAT WHAT THE IMPLICATION IS? YES.

OPINION FAIL A STATUTE AND SYDNEY ORDINANCE TO NOTIFY THE PEOPLE IS YOUR STATION.

OKAY? MY DAMN COMPLICATION BE AND THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY INVOLVED ABOUT ALL COURSES.

WELL, THE POINT I WAS GOING TO TRY TO MAKE, I'M TRYING TO GET IT STRAIGHT IS IF YOU ARE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT ANYBODY AND THE PROOF WILL BE IN PUTTING THE $200 UP, I GUESS, BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE A RISK.

IF NOBODY CARES.

IF EVERYBODY CARES, THEN IT IS AT RISK, BUT THAT IS THE LITMUS TEST.

AND WE HAVE TO USE NOT TO CHANGE IT.

THERE'S ONLY ONE HOUSE IN SP I UNDERSTAND.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF EVERYBODY, IF YOU'RE SURE THAT NOBODY CARES, IF IT'S CHANGED, THEN YOUR $200 SHOULDN'T BE AT RISK, BUT WE WOULDN'T KNOCK IT DOWN.

AND NOBODY CARES IF NOBODY WOULD HAVE NOBODY CARES.

IF IT'S CHANGED, WHY WOULD WE, WHY WOULD WE NOT CHANGE IT? I MEAN, CAUSE WE WON'T DO TO, UH, SATISFY THE PEOPLE OF THE LOCAL AREA THAT LIVE OUT THERE.

IS THAT NOT THE INTENT OF YOUR PLANNING BOARD AND SO FORTH BUT RATHER HAVE MOBILE ON YOUR SIDE AND HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THAT.

WELL, THEY PROBABLY WOULD, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PROCEDURE IS THERE FOR.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY INSTIGATE THE $200 FEE.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE LAW AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE ALL HAVE TO PROCEED.

ALL RIGHT, WHATEVER I TO DO ARE YOU THE ONE BERNARD.

OKAY.

AND HE'S THE MAN TO SEAT.

WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THIS CHANGE.

ALL WE'RE SAYING IS IT ASKED TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCEDURE AND WE HAVE NO GUARANTEES WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE.

ALL WE CAN DO IS WAIT FOR THEM TO MAKE THEIR DECISIONS AND MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO US GENERALLY, IF THEY RECOMMEND THAT IT'D BE APPROVED, WE APPROVED JIM.

SO IT'S GOING TO HINGE ON WHAT THE OTHER RESIDENTS HAVE TO SAY TO A GREAT DEGREE, BUT BE THAT AS IT MADE, THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES, BUT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS BY LAW.

THAT'S THE WAY IT HAS TO GO.

AND THE $200 IS A GAMBLE EITHER WAY.

THERE'S NO OTHER SYSTEM OPERATIVE TO MAKE THE PACIFIC.

OKAY, GREAT.

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THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THE FIRST ROAD, SECOND ROW PETITION OF CITIZENS, BARBARA FORTHRIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A FIFTH TO SIXTH ROW.

HE AIN'T SEE THAT FAR.

ANYBODY ELSE LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN YOU THERE, MR. HOGAN, EVERYTHING.

ALL RIGHT, GO ON TWICE.

JUST GOING.

OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE TO NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER A REQUEST BY MR. ZACHARY TAYLOR, WHO WANTS TO EXPLAIN EVEN MICRO DANNY.

OKAY.

EITHER ONE, THEY LOOKING AT EACH OTHER AND HEY, YOU CAN DO IT AS A DUO IS CHRISTMAS.

YOU CANCELING IT? WELL, GIVE ME A FEW BARS AS FAR AS I MIGHT NOT WANT TO HEAR, UH, WITNESSING THE REQUEST FROM MR. TAGGART NOW THAT DAN, UH, SURE.

UH, HE IS INTERESTED IN A CONNECTION FOOD, 20 TRENT ROAD AND US 17, UH, INSIDE THE WALMART PROPERTY COME OUT ON THE 17 BETWEEN THE FIRST FLIGHT READY TO BEING.

AND I BELIEVE THIS NATION IS THERE.

WE CONNECT TO 17 THERE AND PUT, PROVIDE ANOTHER, UH, NORTH SOUTH CONNECTION BETWEEN 20 ROAD AND 17.

AND HOPEFULLY IT TAKES OF TRAFFIC OFF THOSE TWO ROADS.

PEOPLE WANTING TO GET IT TO A RIVER TOWN SQUARE FOR SHOPPING.

AND SOME OTHER LOCATIONS.

ONE WAS A CONSIDER FOR, UM, INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND ALSO, AND BE CONSIDERED FOR TIANA TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UH, FUNDS.

UH, IT WAS CONSIDERED ABOUT T COMMITTEE PLACE AND DUE TO TINY ANOTHER PROJECT IN THE AREA, THEY DECIDED FOR BLAKE OPEN IT THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND RECONSIDERED, UH, IN THE NEXT ROUND OF FUNDING.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS A THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

WE HAD SPOKEN WITH THE FOLKS AT, UH, IN-STUDIO CITY.

UM, THEY THINK IT'S PROBABLY MORE A COLLECT FOR STREET.

PERHAPS AN ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE FOR A MINOR THOROUGHFARE, BUT THEY NEED MORE INFORMATION, UH, TO CONSIDER THERE.

UH, BUT, UH, FOR, TO BE CONSIDER, UH, THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING CALL FOR, UH, AN ANSWER AND THEN A RECOMMENDATION OR REQUEST FOR AMENDMENTS THAT'S BASED FOR BURGERS RIGHT NOW, UH, AND EXACT SQUARE.

OKAY.

AND, UM, I GUESS CONSIDERATIONS COULD BE, UH, UH, MADE AT THAT TIME OF ONE OF OUR CONSIDERATIONS IS THAT WE HAVE A CONNECTION THROUGH, TO THE REAR TOWN SQUARE PROBLEM.

AND, UH, THEY'RE BACK ON THE BACK BEHIND THE PIZZA NEXT, ROB, AT THE BEGINNING, WE HAD A CONNECTION AND UH, THEY ASKED IF, UH, THE BOARD IS INTERESTED IN WITH LIKE TO, I GUESS THE NEXT THING WOULD BE TO CALL FOR PUBLIC JACKSON AND CONSIDER, UH, CLARIFICATION.

WHAT WOULD BE THE DISTANCE ALONG HIGHWAY 17, RED ROBIN LANE AND ROOST WHERE THIS PROPOSED THREE, 10, PROBABLY 800, UH, HOW FAR BALLPARK FIGURE WITH THE PROPOSED THREE ENTRANCE TO 17 BEEF FROM THE ENTRANCE TO WALMART, IT WAS ONE OF THE DISCONNECT.

UH, IT WILL ALIGN WITH THE SOUTHERN MOST DAYS OF THE MALL AND THERE WILL BE A CALL.

SO THAT WOULD BE PLACED THERE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF,

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UH, THE IDEA OF THE SCREENS WILL PROBABLY, BUT ARE WE CREATING ANOTHER BITE MAYOR INTERSECTION WITH THE SPOTLIGHT AND IT TENDS TO BOTHER ME A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEN WHEN THE NEW BRIDGE IS COMPLETED, SUPPOSEDLY FROM 17 IS NOT REALLY GOING TO GET OFF AT AN INTERSECTION, WALK OUT THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, LAST TIME, REALLY LIKE SOME PROJECTION AS TO HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT THE VIBE TRAFFIC THERE.

THIS WOULD, THIS HAVE AN ENTRANCE OFF THAT PROPOSED STREET INTO THE WALMART PARKING LOT.

SO IT WOULD TAKE SOME OF THE, IT WOULD HAVE, I THOUGHT IT WOULD, UH, WELL, IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE BEFORE WE MAKE DECISIONS GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH OTHER PROCESSES.

SO, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IF WE COULD GET SOME MEASUREMENTS AND SOME DISTANCES AND ADD THE, UH, HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT THE TRAFFIC ALONG 17, BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE, THE TRAFFIC JAMS AND STOPLIGHTS AND ALL THE CROSSOVERS OF THE PIZZA, ALL OF THAT NOW TO SHAKE THE COP NOW, UH, AND, UH, PUT US ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO GIVE US SOME UPDATED INFORMATION, ALL, SOME PROJECTIONS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THERE ONCE WE GET THAT INFORMATION, NOTIFY THE BOARD.

AND THEN AT THAT TIME, THE BOARD TO SUCH AN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM SAY THAT I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ME.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

AND, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD MOVE.

RED BOTTOM LINE IS FAIRLY NARROW AND IT'S A HIGH VOLUME STREET AND IT'S KIND OF PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, TRAFFIC, AND THIS WOULD DRAIN OFF SOME OF THE TRAFFIC FROM TOWN MAKING THE LIFE BEFORE WE GOT THERE.

IF YOU CAN GET SOME MORE FIGURES, OLD HABITS TO AFFECT THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND SPOTLIGHTS AND THE BUSINESSES, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ANYWAY, BEFORE THEY CONSIDER IT.

AND THE TIP IS DON'T GO ALONG, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT AS THEIR DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT, BUT THEN WE CAN GET THIS AND THAT THING UP FRONT AND GIVE THE BOARD A LITTLE BIT MORE RELATIONSHIP.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT THERE.

I WILL BE FINE BECAUSE IF IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT LAYING IT, WE'RE JUST NOT RESOLVING THE PROBLEM.

BUT IF IT'S THE WRONG THING TO DO, WE NEED TO KNOW.

NO, NO, NO.

ONE MORE THING I WANT TO KNOW WHEN YOU CHECKING ALL THIS STUFF OUT, LET'S THINK ABOUT TRENT ROAD TOO, CAUSE YOU GONNA PUT A PRETTY GOOD LOAD ON TRENT ROAD.

AND, UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S GOT A GOOD LOAD ON IT.

JUST MAKE SURE THAT HE CAN HANDLE THIS MUCH MORE TRAFFIC.

SO PLEASE ASK HIM TO CHECK ON THAT TOO.

I WANT TO GIVE A REPORT ON THAT SECTION.

WHY DON'T YOU ADDRESS TRENT ROAD? WHAT IN THE TIP MIKE, THE TREND IS IN THE TIAA, THE FOUR IT'S ONE OF THE PLANNING GROUP.

SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME STUDYING ON TRAMP IS THE VERY NEAR TERM AS FAR AS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH AS FAR AS WIDENING CHARM LANES AND SO FORTH.

SO WE'LL ASK THEM AS THEY'RE DOING THAT TO COMMENT ON THAT.

ALSO I THINK THE FAST TRACK, AS FAR AS STUDYING POSSIBLE DESIGN PROGRESS, NO WAY AROUND THAT BOTTLE, ACCURATE AT THE MALL AND WALMART IS DOWN TRENT ROAD.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE MOST PEOPLE GO.

NOW THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT STREET AND IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO CARRY WHAT IT'S CARRYING.

NO, THE SAME THING.

THE SAD THING ABOUT THE SAD THING ABOUT ALL OF THIS IS WE'VE ALREADY CREATED A MONSTER ON 17, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO RIGHT NOW, YOU, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS IMPOSSIBLE.

THE ONLY OTHER WAY THAT, THAT, THAT TRUMP BRO, I MEAN THAT, THAT HIGHWAY 17 COULD HAVE BEEN DONE, RIGHT? IT WAS TO HAVE HAD ACCESS ROAD SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE 70 EAST GOING AND GOING THROUGH JAMES CITY.

I MEAN, WE, AT A POINT NOW WHERE THAT, THAT PLACE IS JUST A DISASTER, THERE'S NO WAY TO IMPROVE, OKAY.

WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

AND THE LAST YEAR OR SO IS TO TRY AND DO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN INTERCONNECTING DEVELOPMENTS, ALONG THERE TO PROVIDE WHAT ACTS AS AN ACCESSORY HARRIS TEETER TARGET

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LOVES TO STAY HERE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT PRESSURE.

AND THE OTHER THING IS WITH THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTION FROM CHELSEA UP TO A PARTY, IF YOU CAN GIVE ALL THE NORTH, SOUTH EAST WEST PRESSURE, AND WHAT WAS YOUR NEIGHBORS TALKING ABOUT? YOU COULD ALSO GET SOME MORE SOUTH FLOODS, A COUPLE OF LEAVES ON THERE, BUT YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

YEAH, BECAUSE I'M LIKE BACKS AT ME, YOU KNOW, OR WE GET RID OF THAT, PUT A LITTLE STOP STOPLIGHT ON 17 SOUTH.

I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO, UH, CREATE SALARY RECREATE SATURDAY ALONG 17 IS A TOUGH ROAD, BUT IT'S MADE A MAJOR CONNECTOR BETWEEN 78 EAST AND 17 SOUTH.

SO THE BRIDGE TRAFFIC WILL BYPASS THAT CLOVERLEAF AT WALMART OR GO TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND GO DOWN AT THE 17TH AND GET THE THROUGH TRAFFIC OFF OF THAT STRIP BETWEEN 70 BYPASS AND BLED THE BURDEN, THE SITUATION.

THAT'S WHAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE FUTURE THAT IS.

YOU MAY HAVE A TON OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY TAKING PLACE THERE ON THE 17TH.

WE'RE A REGIONAL SERVICE AREA AND IT'S .

WE HAD TO WATCH WHAT HAPPENS.

I AM THE PRINCIPAL, THE SAME FLACK, A REASON WHY MORE CONCRETE DISTANCES PERFORMANCE IS PROJECTED TO TRY.

AND DOES THE BOARD WANT THE WHITE DOWN GONE PUBLIC HERE? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING OR THAT WE WON'T GO IN AND COME UP HERE AND GET ME TO TAKE YOU TO GET THE INFORMATION TOGETHER? UM, I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

PROBABLY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A FEW WEEKS INTO JANUARY SHUT DOWN AND EVERYTHING.

PROBABLY A FEW WEEKS INTO JANUARY.

MR. MAYOR, WAIT UNTIL THEY CAN GET THE INFORMATION AGAIN.

HERE'S THEIR URGENT.

I THINK REALISTICALLY THE TIP IS ALL DIFFERENT PURPOSES, THE SILENT, UH, AND WILL BE A, IF THERE IS ANY MONEY, I DON'T THINK I WOULD SAY PROBABLY REALISTICALLY SOMEWHERE, MAYBE FOR A SECOND MEETING FEBRUARY AND LET THE TV AND TAKE A LOOK AT LESLIE, WHAT THEIR REACTION IS TO THE RIGHT.

SEE WHAT I THINK ALL RIGHT.

NEXT THING WE HAVE AS A PUBLIC HEARING TO REZONE 4,403 HIGHWAY 17 SOUTH FROM 10 TO C3 THAT WHO'S GOING ON.

TELL US WHAT ASS ALL ABOUT.

OKAY.

OR RESOLING ARE, TEND TO SEE THREE .

I WAS 17 SOUTH SIDE, SEVENTH DOWN 7,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND IT IS ADJACENT TO THE R TWO C THREE ZONING DISTRICT THERE AS A REPAIR SHOP, LOCATED ON THE SITE.

AND HE WANTS THESE REQUESTS, THE RESILIENT TO MAKE ITS OWN DISTRICT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY.

MR. GEORGE, IF YOU'RE GOING, IF YOU'RE GOING, IF YOU'RE GOING AWAY FROM IT, IF YOU GO ON 17 SOUTH, IS THAT ON THE LEFT? YES.

OKAY.

IT'S UH, AND UH, EVERYTHING ELSE BESIDE IS AND THIS ERA, THE C3 CHURCH, AND THEN, UH, UH, SO WITHIN IT IS ONLY ONE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.

ACTUALLY THE RESIDENTS, THE RESIDENTS HERE

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ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THE RESIDENTS, THEY GOING BACK SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO AND REQUESTED OUR TENANTS TO C3.

SO IT IS NOW THEY PROBABLY HAVE ALREADY SEEN THREE.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION, I GUESS, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

SO MR. GEORGE HAS EXPLAINED WHAT MR. SUTTON IS.

I ASKED FOR AND STAGING AS IS IS THIS PROBLEM NOW? UH, I THINK THERE ARE DANA, MORE OPPOSITION, A PUPPET.

HEAR ME CLOSE.

EXEC.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I GOT JUST ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED AND YOU SAID YOU HAD TALKED TO YOUR NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES.

OKAY.

THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT FOUR, MAKE SURE THAT WE, EVERYBODY AROUND THAT FAMILY HAS BEEN NOTIFIED BY MAIL.

RIGHT.

AND YOU HAD NO OPPOSITION AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING WHEN YOU DISCUSSED.

I LIKE THAT.

BOB WAS WOLF WHO OR THAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE CLOSED ABOVE, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND SECOND THE ORDINANCE, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU.

WELL, NO, WE HAVE A ROLL CALL ON THAT.

IT'S CALLED NO, SHE HAD ME A LITTLE NOTE ON THAT.

SHE GONNA HAVE TO WRITE IT.

YES, YES.

OKAY.

I BELIEVE YOU REBUILD A, SELL A CAR RIDERS ON MY 60 CORVETTE YEARS AGO.

ARE YOU SURE IT IS? AND THEY STILL, WELL, THEY, THEY WERE KICKING UNTIL I RETIRED THEM ANYWAY.

OKAY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UH, CONSENT AGENDA.

WE NEED TO PULL NUMBER 17, NUMBER NINE.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE THE NUMBER 17.

AND YOU PULLING NUMBER 19.

WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'LL MOVE IT HERE.

MR. HALL.

YEAH.

WHEN A 17 COMBED BACK ON, COULD THEY HAVE A LITTLE SMALL MAPS WHERE THAT STREET IS? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND AS FAR AS NUMBER 19 IS CONCERNED, WE HAVE AN OFFER TO PURCHASE A PORTION OF THE ODS PROPERTY, WHICH IS LOCATED, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S IN FIFTH WARD.

MAYBE THE FIRST IS RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN SOMEWHERE ON THE BORDERLINE OF THE TWO WARDS.

AND, UH, UH, WE HAVE THE OFFER IS $5,000 AND INCLUDES THE AREA THAT CONTAINS THE TANK.

THAT'S THERE HAS CITY OF NEWBURN WRITTEN ON IT ON THERE, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE REMOVAL OF THAT TANK.

UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO ACCEPT THAT BID AT THAT PRICE, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND ADVERTISE IT AND SEE THE BOARD HAS THE RIGHT TO REJECT ANY BIDS IF WE DON'T GET A PROPER PRICE FOR IT.

SO THAT WOULD GIVE US MORE TIME TO INVESTIGATE WHAT THE BENEFIT TO US ABOUT REMOVING THAT TANK WOULD BE AUTISTIC AND WE NOT REQUIRED TO ADVERTISE WE'RE

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CITY PROPERTY.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

PULL IT AND GIVE OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.

THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS YOU MAY SELL PROPERTY.

AND IF YOU INTERESTED IN SELLING THIS PROPERTY, THAT'S THE ONE I WOULD RECOMMEND MAKE MOSTLY WE CAN, UH, JUST START TO PROCEED, JUST START THE PROCEDURE, JUST TO SELL PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE.

OKAY.

WELL, WE WE'VE TAKEN 1719 OFF, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, EXCLUDING 17 AND 19.

YOU CAN'T TELL HE'S MAKING A SMALL NOISE BY HEARING THE MESSAGE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, CALL THE ROLL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA LAST 17, 19.

YES.

I'M HEARING A NOISE.

THE MAYOR ON ITEM 19.

DO WE GO BACK TO CONSIDER, UH, ADVERTISING THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS IT BEFORE WE DID IT? YES.

AND JUST TO START THE PROCEDURES, WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO ON THIS.

YEAH.

JUST SUGGESTED TO THE MANAGING ATTORNEY PROCEED WITH THE PROCEDURE.

DO WE NEED A BOAT ON THAT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

YES, YES, YES, YES.

OKAY.

NUMBER 22, DISCUSS THE JOINT LEADING WITH HAM LOT.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

TALK WITH MR. HOFFMAN.

UH, ABOUT, UH, 10 DAYS AGO, WE WERE DISCUSSING THE FACT THAT WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING AND IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE BETWEEN THE TAPE BOARDS.

AND WE THOUGHT THAT SINCE IT HAD BEEN ABOUT A YEAR, SINCE WE HAD GOTTEN TOGETHER BEFORE THAT, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET TOGETHER AGAIN, THIS TIME, SINCE IT WAS HELD IN NEWBURN LAST TIME THAT WE WOULD GO TO HAVE A LOT ON THIS OCCASION.

AND HE SUGGESTED THE, UH, SOMETIME IN THE FIRST PART OF JANUARY, HE ACTUALLY SUGGESTED DATE OF THE 6TH OF JANUARY, UH, AND UH, TIME ON THAT, I THINK 6:00 PM.

AND, UH, WE, WE WOULD GET THE PLACE.

IT'D BE A LOCAL RESTAURANT THERE SOMEWHERE IN TOWN THAT, UH, WE WOULD MEET.

THAT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU.

THAT'S FINE.

OKAY, GOOD.

I'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

UM, JANUARY OF SIX, WELL, JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT, JANUARY THE FIFTH, THE DAY BEFORE I HAVEN'T BEEN 35 YEARS, I'VE BEEN MARRIED TO THE BRIDE.

HOW CAN I BE MARRIED? I'M ONLY 38 CHILD.

LET'S SEE.

NEXT THING IS APPOINTMENTS.

NUMBER 23.

YOU HAVE ANY IS LATE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

ALL RIGHT, MAX, I ALSO SECOND TRAFFIC SAFETY COALITION NOMINATION.

I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE DR.

ROAD AND THE CORRECT ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.

SO YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YOU'VE GOT, I'D LIKE TO APPOINT JOSEPH FEEDBACK AND THE JUNIOR HIGH TREE LANE EAST TO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COALITION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

EXCUSE ME.

ALL OPPOSED.

NO.

AND MR. RYAN, HE PASSES, UH, THAT MY FEET AND MOST OF THAT, WE APPOINT CAROL BECTON TO THE LIBRARY OF TRUSTEE BOARD.

UH, UH, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, WANT TO POSE? OKAY.

I WAS GOING TO POINT SOMEBODY TO THE TRAFFIC BOARD, BUT I DON'T HAVE IS THE DRESS, IS IT OKAY TO APPOINT HIM ANYWAY, HE WENT OUT AND THEN WE'LL FIND THEM SAME AS ROBERT.

EXCUSE ME.

GRAY ON CROFT CHICK.

BOBBY CROFT.

YOU SPELLED K R O F C H I C K

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K ON HAND.

I WANT TO KNOW THAT HE HAS A K ON THAT.

ROBERT, YOU PROBABLY KNOW HIM, KNOW WHAT YOU CALL YOU DON'T HAVE CITIZEN.

OKAY.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

OKAY.

WE'RE NOW TO MISCELLANEOUS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY WHY NOT? WE HAD THIS ASSESSMENT BUT DID THE, DID THE PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY, THEY SAID WHAT THEY WANTED SAID, THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S WHAT A STUDY IS ALL ABOUT.

AND I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A STUDY.

AND THEN SOMEBODY SAY IT DIDN'T SAY WHAT IT WANTED, THE SPEC, THEY TALKED, THEY TALKED TO ALL OF THEM.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD BE GET I WOULD L I WOULD HATE TO, WE SPEND MONEY FOR A STUDY AND THEN ASK PEOPLE WHAT'S ON THEIR MIND AND THEY STILL MAY THINK IT, BUT TELL US WHAT'S ON THEIR MIND.

THAT THAT WOULD BE THE WRONG THING TO DO, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

ALL RIGHT, MR. FREEZE, TWO THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, UH, IN REFERENCE TO THE, UH, NATIONALLY, THE CITIES CONFERENCE IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, SOMETHING HEARD THERE, THE LOCAL BOARD HAD A HAND IN THAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE VERY BENEFICIAL, NOT JUST FOR THE CITY VIEW, BUT FOR THIS COUNTRY AS A WHOLE STRANGE TO SEE THE ENERGY ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE OF THAT.

ACTUALLY THE CITIES, FIRST OF ALL, IT ACTUALLY, THE CITY REPRESENTS ALMOST 1500 CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY UP TO INCLUDING THE NEW YORK CITY, BIG CITIES, PERHAPS 15 MILLION VOTERS.

THEY HAVE A BIG LOBBYING EFFORT IN CONGRESS.

AND WHEN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE APPROVES A POSITION ON AN ISLAND, THOSE LOBBYISTS TO GO OVER ALL THIS LEGISLATION, DEALING WITH THAT STUFF, AND THEY FIGHT TO GET THE NATIONAL LEAGUE POSITION IN LEGISLATION.

ONE ITEM THAT CAME UP WHILST WATER POLLUTION AND AGRICULTURAL WASTE AND ANIMAL WASTE HAD NEVER BEEN IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES POSITION OR WATER POLLUTION AND WATER QUALITY AND BOOTS TO THE LOCAL GROUP THAT HAS NOW BEEN ADDED.

AND ALL ASHEVILLE LEGISLATION IN THE FUTURE WILL BE VIEWED BY THE NATIONAL LEAGUE REPRESENTATIVE CITY REPRESENTATIVES IN WASHINGTON, UH, CONSIDER HOW IT WILL IMPACT THAT DESIRE TO KEEP ANIMAL WASTE AND AGRICULTURAL CHEMICALS OUT OF THE WATERWAYS AND WATER SUPPLY THIS NATION.

AND THE LOBBYISTS WOULD FIGHT FOR THE ACTUAL EXPOSITION THAT AGRICULTURAL WASTE, AGRICULTURAL CHEMICALS AND ALLOYS KEPT OUT OF THE NATION'S WATER SUPPLY THAT HAD NEVER BEEN IN THE POLICY.

THAT'S AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE FIRST MAGICAL POLICY STATEMENT, AND THAT'S A SIMPLE VERSION, BUT ANYWAY, IN OTHER WORDS, SOMETHING REALLY, I THINK VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE NEUSE RIVER AND EVERY RIVER IN THE UNITED STATES, UH, WHO THEY WILL ASK THEM A LIE IS INCLUDED.

THAT'S THE TRUTH.

THE SECOND THING IS WE HAVE, FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, STILL HAVE A VACANCY ON THE BOARD IN THAT MR. MCDOWELL WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND MEETINGS AT THE PRESENT TIME.

AND AT SOME POINT, OF COURSE, UH, WE WILL BE RESIGNING FROM HIS POSITION, BUT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS AND LETTING THE PEOPLE IN THE FORT WARD KNOW IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING AND FILLING THAT SEAT, IF THEY SHOULD LET US KNOW, BUT WE HAVE NEVER

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REALLY MADE IT OFFICIAL.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT IN ORDER TO SPEED UP THAT PROCESS, ONCE THAT STEVE IS OFFICIALLY BANKING, THAT WE ADVERTISE THROUGH THE SONDRA OR HOWEVER WE CAN THROUGH THE CHANNEL 10 FOR THOSE RESIDENTS ON THE FOURTH FLOOR WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THAT SEAT TO PLEASE WRITE TO THE CITY MANAGER A LETTER, EXPLAINING THEIR INTEREST IN SENDING A RESUME OR ANYTHING THEY'D LACKED WITH FLU, THAT WE MIGHT TAKE A LOOK AT IN ORDER TO MAKE A BETTER JUDGMENT.

SO THE PROCESS WILL BE IN EFFECT AND IT WILL MAKE THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS GO FASTER FOR THE RESIGNATION DOES COME.

WHAT IF WE HAD AN, UH, LIKE WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE, WE JUST SET A DATE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE AND SAY TO ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED COME THAT NIGHT AND NOT, WELL FIRST LET THEM SEND US LESLIE HAVE ANY.

IT IS.

CAUSE IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'LL BE THREE OR 3000 AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE THEM COME SAY A FEW WORDS, GIVE US A THREE MINUTES.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A WRITTEN MATERIAL TO LOOK OVER.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TIME TO, TO CONSIDER WHAT WAS LATER, THE LAST, THE LAST ONE I'M SENDING DOWN A, UH, APPLICATION OR WHATEVER.

AND THEN IF IT'S NOT TOO MANY, WE'LL HAVE THEM COME ONE NIGHT.

SO IT PUBLIC AND ALSO SEE WHAT THEY PUT THEY HAVE TO SAY, BUT WE NEED TO GIVE PEOPLE A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME TO GET THAT MATERIAL WHO TO BE AT TWO WEEKS OR 30 DAYS OR WHATEVER.

AND IF WE WAIT UNTIL TOM'S RESIGNATION BECOMES EFFECTIVE AND THEN WE HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 30 DAYS BEFORE WE LOOK AT THOSE LETTERS, IT JUST LENGTHENS THE PROCESS.

AND WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT YOU LET THE PEOPLE KNOW NOW IF THEY WANT TO SEND US THE MATERIAL, WE WILL HAVE IT IN HAND, READY TO GO.

AND IT WILL SHORTEN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

AND WE'LL DO IT MAXIMUM.

LIKE IF THERE'S A WAY POSSIBLE THAT THIS COULD BE DONE RIGHT AWAY.

AND THAT THE RESUMES APPLICATIONS, WHEN WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT, CAN BE RECEIVED IN HERE BY THE SAY THE 6TH OF JANUARY, THEN BY THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY, WE CAN MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT.

I ALSO SUGGESTED MR. HARTMAN, A FAX SYSTEM, THE SUGGESTED SYSTEM, WHICH I HAVE SEEN USED IN OTHER PLACES WE MIGHT WANT TO USE, IF HE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT WITH YOUR ANALYSIS ANDREW OR WHATEVER.

BUT ANYWAY, MY STATEMENT TODAY IS JUST SO THAT WE CAN NARROW THAT GAP BETWEEN THE TIME OF THE RESERVATION BECOMES EFFECTIVE AT THE TIME WHEN THE POINTS TO FILL IT.

I'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE AT ONE HAPPENED AT THE SAME NIGHT, POSSIBLY MARILYN AND MAKE THEM MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER, GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE ADVERTISEMENT EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

SO THE APPLICATIONS CAN BE ACCEPTED NO LATER THAN JANUARY TO SIX.

I THINK WE SHOULD FIND THE TIME IN THE HOLIDAYS RIGHT DOWN.

THAT CAN BE WELL, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU BARBARA SAYING, BUT I MEAN, GRACIOUS.

THE POSITION HAD BEEN ALMOST OPEN FOR A MONTH.

NOBODY'S JUMPED OUT OF THE WOODWORK YET.

PEOPLE WE'VE ASKED PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN SUGGESTED DIDN'T WANT IT THERE'S BEEN ONE OR TWO LETTERS SENT IN, UH, OUT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GO AND MAKE A REPLACEMENT POSITION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I MEAN, THINK BACK, THINK BACK WHY? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT IS POSITIONED.

WELL, I JUST SAY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I KNOW YOU MISS MISSING.

I JUST THINK POSITIONING.

I MEAN, DON'S BEEN GONE AT WHAT, TWO MONTHS.

YEAH.

I MEAN WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT BEING REPRESENTED HERE TO ME, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS GO TWO MONTHS.

AND REMEMBER WHEN, WHEN IT CAME FOR ELECTION FOR THE POSITION TO REPLACE GUY, BOARD MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD MADE A DECISION THAT WHOEVER WAS ELECTED TO THAT POSITION WILL BE SWORN IN.

AND THE VERY NEXT ME TO REPLACE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS ABSENT.

OKAY.

VISITATION BE IN JANUARY BUT SEE WHAT MAX IS SAYING IS GOING TO GET A PROCESS IN FLIGHT, THE URGENCY YOU GUYS SEEM TO HAVE OVER THE HOLIDAYS.

AND OFTENTIMES PEOPLE REACT TO THE HOLIDAYS AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE TOTALLY INTERESTED, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT OF TOWN OR SOMETHING, YOU SAY JANUARY, THIS IT'S CLOSE TO NEW YEARS TOO.

I BET.

I THINK SHE'S WRITING A LOT OF THINGS.

LET'S MAKE IT.

WHY I HAVE WAY THROUGH JANUARY THE 15TH MADE ME GET MY MANILA EXTRA WEEK.

HOW ABOUT JANUARY, JANUARY THE 15TH DOES THAT SAME WEEK, EVERYBODY OUT THERE.

IF YOU WANT THE JOB, YOU GOT NEW JANUARY

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THE 15TH TO LET US KNOW.

AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO GRADE IT? THEY LET US KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE PAPER.

I'LL PUT SOMETHING IN THE POST OFFICE BOX OR WHATEVER.

IT'LL BE IN THE NEWSPAPER.

ALL RIGHT, JANUARY THE 15TH IS ON WEDNESDAY.

EMOTIONALLY, MAKE IT BACK FRIDAY, THE 17TH, THAT'S THE END OF THE WEEK.

CLOSING, CLOSING SOME OF THAT ALL IN FAVOR, HUH? I WANT TO POSE NOTE.

THAT'LL BE THE WAY WE DO IT.

NOW, IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, AND YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF IT, NOW IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND IT REALLY IS AN HONOR TO DO IT.

IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF AGGRAVATION SOMETIMES, BUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU DO THINGS AND IT TURNS OUT RIGHT, IT DOES MAKE YOU FEEL KIND OF GOOD ONCE IN AWHILE.

SO, UM, WE ARE WELCOMING THE APPLICATIONS.

ANYBODY ELSE LET'S SEE WHO'S LEFT.

YOU'VE GOT MR. WARD.

YEAH.

MAMA SAID IT WAS CALLING MY ATTENTION AFTER THE LAST MEETING THAT, THAT THERE'S BEEN AN OFFER MADE TO DONATE A LOT TO THE CITY BELONGS TO TWO SISTERS, MRS. JAMES MONROE AND MRS. BEVERLY AND HUNTER.

IT'S A LOT ON FOWLER'S LANE, 25 FEET BY 93 FEET.

AND THE MATERIAL THAT WAS FURNISHED TO ME TODAY, PROBABLY 25 BY A HUNDRED.

UH, WE DO NOT HAVE THE NEED.

I HAVE INFORMATION COMING TO MY OFFICE SO THAT THE DEED CAN BE PREPARED.

AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO DONATE THE LOT THIS YEAR SO THAT THEY'RE PROTECTED.

UH, IF, IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT THAT DONATION, UH, I WAS WAITING AT THE NEED OF THE BED AND THE SIGN AND HAD IT RECORDED.

SO WHAT'S THE SIZE OF IT NOW.

25 FOOT LOT ON FOWLER'S LANE.

I DON'T KNOW ALL THAT, BUT WE HAVE NOT HAVEN'T TURNED ANY DOWN.

PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN US.

SO THE PRECEDENT IS THERE SOMEBODY MOVED TO TAKE IT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION.

YEAH.

I'M I'M CONCERNED.

YOU CAN'T.

CAN YOU DO ANYTHING WITH THAT? WELL, I GUESS YOU CAN'T TURN THAT ON PRIVATE.

NONE OF MINE.

I KNOW.

NO DISCUSSING.

THAT'S FINE.

THEY'RE MAKING PLANS TO USE IT.

OKAY.

DID WE HAVE A VOICE VOTE OR A ROLL GOAL? ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

OKAY.

DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY MISCELLANEOUS? NO.

WE'RE JUST GLAD TO HAVE ALL THE LEAD BACK AT WORK.

I DIDN'T REALIZE I HAVE ONE.

I'M SORRY.

I HAD ONE ITEM.

UH, I HAD A VISIT FROM A GENTLEMAN, I BELIEVE FROM BARBARA'S WARD.

AND ON, OFF AT GLENBURNIE DRIVE, WHO WAS CONCERNED ABOUT OVERALL TRAFFIC, UH, SPEED LIMITS WITHIN THE CITY.

HE, HE DIDN'T MAKE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT HE ASKED ME IF I'D BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION TONIGHT UNDER MISCELLANEOUS, THAT HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME UP HERE.

CONSIDER IT THEN WHAT WAS THIS CONCERN? THEY WOULD TOO HIGH, TOO LOW.

YES.

AND HE SAID HE JUST THOUGHT THAT THEY ALL NEED TO BE LOOKED AT MORE CLOSELY AND SOME NEEDED TO BE RAISED IN SOME NEED TO BE LOWERED.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PROJECT FOR THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

YEP.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER MESS? WELL, IS ITEM 25 DOWN THERE? IT SAYS ADD JAR.

OKAY.

YEAH.