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OKAY.

IS RIGHT STATEMENT BACK TO YOU.

I DIDN'T SEE HIM PRIOR TO ALL THE WAY.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS PRIVILEGE.

WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AND TAKE CARE OF THE CITY'S BUSINESS TONIGHT.

AND LORD, WE ASK, AS WE GATHER HERE, THAT WE MIGHT GATHER TOGETHER IN UNITY AND LORD THAT YOU MIGHT GIVE THIS BOARD AND ALL THE PARTICIPATE, A GREAT WISDOM AS WE DEAL WITH THE AFFAIRS OF DENIED GUIDE US AND LORD, MOST OF ALL, HELP US TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF THIS COMMUNITY AND LORD FOR THE DESIRES OF YOUR WHEEL IN OUR LIVES LAST AND HAVE YOUR WAY.

AND FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

WE'LL THANK YOU GOD, FOR US IN CHRIST NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN.

HERE.

FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO DO TO MAKE BEFORE I FORGET IT, THIS IS AN UNUSUAL, ESPECIALLY FOR A PERSON I'M A POLITICAL POSITION.

SO THEY TELL ME THAT HE HAS TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT ENDORSING NEWS MEDIA AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT HEY, I NEVER LISTEN TO ANYBODY ANYWAY, BUT LAST NIGHT BOYLE SHOWED THE PRESENT SPEECH AND ABC DIDN'T CARE, NBC DIDN'T CARE, CBS DIDN'T CARE.

I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING.

I WAS VERY PROUD OF.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COST THEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAD TO DO.

THEY DECIDED THAT THE PEOPLE ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR WHAT THE PRESIDENCY AND TO ME, THAT'S WHAT THE NEWSPAPER ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND TELEVISION AND ALL THAT WAS ALWAYS ALL ABOUT AND A PRETTY HUMBLING EXPERIENCE TO A LIKE ME THAT KNOWS IT.

UH, THE REST OF IT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T, WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE SITTING HERE IF IT WASN'T FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT WOULD STICK THEIR NECK OUT EVERY NOW AND THEN.

AND, UH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT COMING OVER TO GET AN IDEA.

AND I THINK HILLARY CLINTON SAID ONE TIME SHE HEARD MESSAGES OR WHATEVER FROM, UH, FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT'S WIFE.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL THAT, BUT, UH, I'M, UH, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF GEORGE WASHINGTON, THOMAS JEFFERSON, THOMAS PAINE, AND THE OTHER BOYS AND CHAM CHANNEL 12.

SO I LIKED FOR US TO GIVE THEM IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT, A LITTLE STANDING OVATION NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE CATEGORY AT THE NIGHT CALLED RECOGNITION OF OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT.

AND FIRST THING I DO IS I LOOK OUT HERE AND I NEVER SEE ANYTHING HE SAYS MAY OR US.

FIRST THING WE HAVE, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS IS OUR EXPLORERS AND CHIEF PALUMBO IS HERE TO TAKE WELL, THANK YOU, SARAH.

WHERE IS SHE? WELL, THEN YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT YOU EXPLAINED ABOUT THE EXPLORERS.

CAN WE DO IT OR OKAY.

COME UP TO, OKAY.

BASICALLY WHAT THE EXPLORERS IS, IS A YOUNG GROUPS IT'S DONE THROUGH THE, UH, UH, BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA.

UM, WE HAVE A FINE GROUP OF YOUNG MEN WHO HAVE, UH, PARTICIPATED ON THEIR OWN.

UH, THEY VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME TWO NIGHTS A WEEK, UH, TUESDAYS AND SATURDAYS, THEY GIVE UP A LOT OF TIME.

WE DO, UH, POLICE EVENTS, BUILDING SEARCHES, VEHICLE STOPS.

UH, THEY ALSO HELP OUT WITH OUR PARADES TRAFFIC THE MONTH AS THAT WILL BE DOWN AT THE MONTH AS DIRECTING TRAFFIC.

UH, AND, UH, THEY DID REAL WELL.

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JUST REAL PROUD OF, COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND OFFICER ROWE WITH THE NEWBORN POLICE DEPARTMENT, JIM? I LIKE TO SAY ALSO THE PALUMBO IS TINY.

THAT FAN IS HE JUST INFORMED US AS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF BEING A POLICEMAN OR A FIREMAN, WHICH WE SAW SEPTEMBER 11TH, BEST LAID PLANS FOR TONIGHT AND TOMORROW NIGHT OR THIS MORNING, OR WHATEVER MIGHT HAVE TO BE CAST ASIDE WHEN THE PUBLIC CALLS AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AND ASKED EXACTLY WHAT THE CHIEF AND THE REST OF THE POLICE ARE DOING.

AND, UH, WE HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE THAT IT'S BEING HANDLED, WHATEVER THE ANSWER TO THESE, I GAVE YOU GUYS YOUR FIRST BAG.

I MEAN, IT'S LIKE A REAL BAG.

MY NAME IS CARLOS AND JUST, UH, HERE'S YOURS.

MY NAME'S ANGELA TONY GET, UM, YEA MAY HAVE WHO WE HAVE THEM ALL THAT JUST STAND RIGHT ACROSS HERE, GOING TO SEE HIM AS A GROUP, TURN AROUND AND FACE THE CAMERA.

MR. MAYOR FOR YOUR BENEFIT AND ROBERT RAINER'S PAIN BENEFIT.

I CHECKED ON THE SCOUT OATH, WHICH I LEARNED 54 YEARS AGO, AND I WAS MAYBE ONE OR TWO WORDS OFF AFTER 54 YEARS.

SO I WAS MADE AT LEAST A QUARTER OF THAT THOUSAND DOLLARS HE WAS OFFERING.

AND THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND, UH, MY FATHER WAS A, IT WAS A CONSTABLE BACK IN THE FIFTIES.

THEY DON'T HAVE CONSTABLES ANYMORE, BUT THAT WAS QUITE A HISTORIC OFFICE.

IT WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE SHERIFF OF NOTTINGHAM IN ENGLAND, ROLEX, A LITTLE BIT OF THIS STUFF.

I'VE HAD AN APPRECIATION FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, MOST ALL OF THEM ALIVE.

I LIKE THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE LIE.

AND ONCE AGAIN, THESE FELLOWS HAVE LITERALLY DONE IT AGAIN AND SAID, DO YOU LIKE TO COME UP RALPH AND TELL US ABOUT, SAY YOUR PUBLIC IS GOING TO FIND OUT IF THEY WATCHED HAMILTON.

AND WE GOT SO MANY NATIONAL WINNERS AND HEROES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND IT AIN'T REALLY US.

I KNEW IT ALL ALONG THAT'S UH, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID AGAIN, UH, BACK IN MAY, UM, MIKE AND BRIAN AND G WENT TO THE KNICK GAMES, LINEMAN'S RODEO, UH, NORTH CAROLINA AS INDIVIDUALS, AND THEY PLACED FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD.

AND, UH, SO THEY GOT THE HONOR OF REPRESENTING NORTH CAROLINA IN THE INTERNATIONAL LINEMAN'S RODEO.

AND, UH, THEY WON A TRIP TO KANSAS CITY.

AND IN THIS LAST, UH, THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER, THEY WENT TO KANSAS CITY AND THEY TOOK A FIRST PLACE IN A MUNICIPAL LINEMAN'S RODEO IN THE INTERNATIONAL CONTEST THERE, THEY TOOK FOURTH PLACE OVERALL AGAINST, UH, THE INVESTOR ON UTILITIES, THE CO-OPS, THE CONTRACTORS AND, UH, LYMAN FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.

THEY

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FINISHED FIFTH.

SO WE'RE REAL PROUD OF THAT.

AND THEY DONE A REAL GOOD JOB AGAIN FOR US.

AND, UH, HERE'S THE TROPHIES UP HERE.

IT WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE MAYOR AND, UH, AND THEN HEY FOLKS.

AND DON'T STOP.

BEAUTIFUL.

OH, RIGHT.

OKAY.

HERE WE ARE AGAIN, 2002 THIS TIME, THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARD WINNERS, AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY SOMETHING REALLY EXCITING.

AND, UH, MY NAME IS KEITH MCCLEESE.

I'M DETERMINED OF THE APPEARANCE COMMITTEE HERE IN NEW BERN, AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME OF OUR MEMBERS HERE IF WE'D LIKE TO STAND UP AND BE RECOGNIZED.

RIGHT.

APPRECIATE IT.

ONCE WE TRY TO TAKE CREDIT FOR YEAH.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MORE WINDOWS THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE A BRONZE, THE WINNER, A SILVER WINNER, AND A GOLDEN BARREL WINNER.

WE'RE GOING TO, WE HAVE ALL THREE OF THEM HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING THEM AND YOU'RE GOING TO COME DOWN AND HELP US TO GIVE THEIR WARTS THEM.

AND, UH, AND I JUST IT'S.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THE CITIZENS ARE DOING A GOOD JOB AND THEY'RE GETTING RECOGNIZED FOR IT.

WE'RE DOING IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT THIS YEAR THAN WE HAVE BEEN, BECAUSE USUALLY WE LET THEM FILL OUT THE FORM AND THEN PRESENT IT TO THE APPEARANCE COMMITTEE.

BUT NOW WE ARE GOING OUT, IT SEEMS TO BE BETTER.

SEEMS TO, YOU KNOW, LET THEM KNOW, HEY, LOOK, WE LIVE WITH THE WIND THIS YEAR.

AND THEN WE HAVE GOT SOME GREAT, GREAT WINNERS THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, SO LET'S BEGIN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

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I'LL HAVE TO SAY OKAY.

OKAY.

I'LL BRONZE.

WINTER IS A DELIA KANEOHE I WAS SILVER SILVER BELL AWARD WINNER FOR 2002 IS MR. AND MRS. LEVI BROWN.

AND WE KNOW THEM AS JEAN AND MARGARET, OUR GOLDEN BEAR WINNERS ARE MR. AND MRS. LESLIE WHITE, JR.

AND LESS KNOWN AS SURELY AND BE VAL WINDOWS, GOLDEN BEAR, SILVER AND BRONZE.

AND JUST TELL US WHERE THEY LIVE SO WE CAN GO, OH YES.

OH, I, I WILL DO THAT.

OKAY.

WELL IT JUST, I WOULD JUST SPEND A MENTAL, A STORY ABOUT THAT, ABOUT HOW ONE GUY WHO SAW ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES.

HE SAID THAT HE, HE TOOK THE LONG WAY HOME SO THAT HE COULD VIEW THAT PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT SHOWS HOW JUST FIXING YOUR YARD UP.

I MEAN, IT CAN MOVE AND MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

IT REALLY DOES.

YOU CAN GET PEOPLE TO COME TO LIVE AND JUST A PLEASANT THING TO SEE A BEAUTIFUL YARD.

AND WE THANK Y'ALL FOR DOING THAT.

AND THIS IS JUST GREAT TO HAVE YOU DO THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

MR. AND MRS. LESLIE WHITE JR.

THE 1721 WASHINGTON STREET, THE GOLDEN BELL AWARD WINNERS.

MR. AND MRS. LEVI BROWN, JEAN AND MARGARET, UH, 2014 GRACE AVENUE.

MR. DUDE, YOUR CANOE EIGHT 18 NORTH CRAVEN STREET.

THANK.

Y'ALL LIKE TO SAY THAT.

UM, I'M VERY, LET'S GO BUY, REMEMBER THOSE ADS SO WE CAN GO BY AND SEE THE YARDS.

I CAN PARTICULARLY TALK ABOUT MS. SHIRLEY'S YARD.

THAT'S MY, ON MY WAY HOME, EVERYBODY IN TOWN TALKING ABOUT HER HOUSE, ESPECIALLY AT CHRISTMAS TIME.

SO WE ARE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT.

I SAW COMING UP HERE.

SHE, I THINK AS HIM STOP ME, I CAN'T SEE THAT SAY I'M COMING UPSTAIRS.

WHERE DO I GO? AND I'M LOOKING AROUND.

NO, THAT CAN'T BE MS. SHIRLEY.

THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

I'M PROUD OF ALL OF YOU.

I'LL BE SURE TO GET THOSE ADDRESSES BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE THE OTHER YARDS.

I KNOW THEY LOOK AS GOOD.

OH YES.

DARRELL.

BEAUTIFUL.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE MADE A, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A LOT ON LISTS.

I MEAN, JUST LIKE THE MAIL SAID, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE JUST BEAUTIFUL, RIGHT.

IT WAS HARD TO MAKE THOSE, THOSE DECISIONS, BUT IT'S GOOD THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT BETTER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE NEGATIVE, BUT IT'S GREAT.

IT'S GREAT.

AND ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK, UH, THURMAN HARRISON AND HIS STAFF, THE DIRECTOR OF RECREATION AND PARKS FOR MAKING IT A WHOLE LOT EASIER FOR US TO DO THINGS LIKE THIS.

AND HE'S, UH, HE'S, HE'S HELPS US A LOT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL AGAIN.

OKAY.

AND LET ME THINK A CANDIDATE, MOST OF THE WORK YOU DO, BECAUSE REALLY, AND TRULY, AND I MEAN THIS AS A MAYOR, I HEAR ALL THE COMMENTS, GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT.

AND I HEAR FROM OTHER MAYORS AND PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN JUST WANT A BEAUTIFUL CITY THAT IT IS WE'RE IN.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, YOU WANT AN AWARD LIKE THIS.

AND I SAID, IT LOOKS AS GOOD AS IT DOES, AND IT'S NOT COMING DOWN EIGHT.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND PREFACE THAT THAT'S LIKE WINNING A BEAUTY CONTEST WITH A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD LOOKING PEOPLE IN IT.

YOU GOT A REAL GOOD, ALL DONE A GOOD JOB, MR. MAYOR.

MY WIFE SAID THAT IF I KEPT PLANTING TOMATO PLANTS IN AMONGST THE AZALEAS, SHE WAS GOING TO GIVE ME THE DEAD BEAR NEXT SUMMER.

I'M NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

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SO I AM JUST, I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

UM, AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY, UH, IS BEING RENOVATED.

AND, UM, I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THE FOLKS THAT WORK OUT THERE, RIGHT? IF EVERYBODY WORKS WITH THE WASTE TREATMENT PLANT, WOULD Y'ALL PLEASE STAND UP AND BE RECOGNIZED AS SOME OF OUR DEDICATED EMPLOYEES THAT DO A GREAT JOB THERE.

AND WE ARE REGULATED HEAVILY REGULATED, UH, IN WASTEWATER AND WATER, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE TRADE ORGANIZATIONS THAT OVERSEE AND HELP PROMOTE TRAINING AND DOING VARIOUS THINGS.

AND THEY ALSO PRESENT RECOGNITIONS.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT.

THE NORTH CAROLINA AMERICAN WATERWORKS, WHICH OVERSEES OUR DRINKING WATER AND LOBBIES FOR US ON OUR BEHALF.

AND A LOT OF US ARE MEMBERS OF THAT ORGANIZATION AND THE WATER ENVIRONMENT FEDERATION, WHICH REPRESENTS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT OPERATORS AND, AND FOLKS WHO WORK AT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND DO COLLECTION SYSTEMS REPRESENT US IN THE SAME WAY AND PROVIDE TRAINING AND EVERYTHING.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO IS RECOGNIZE THEIR EMPLOYEES, THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN RECOGNIZE PEOPLE IN THEIR FIELD.

AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN RECOGNIZED AT ANY OF OUR ANNUAL CONFERENCE EVENTS, WHICH TAKE PLACE IN NOVEMBER, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT THE, UH, TOP OF THE, UH, PREMIUM OF, UH, OF, OF OUR FOLKS, UH, THAT WORK IN THIS PARTICULAR INDUSTRY.

AND, UM, TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO AWARD ONE INDIVIDUAL, UM, VERY SPECIAL AWARD.

IN MY OPINION, UM, IN DIXON HAS BEEN CHOSEN AS THE NORTH CAROLINA AMERICAN WATERWORKS AND WE'RE ENVIRONMENT FEDERATION LAB ANALYST OF THE YEAR LYNN HAS WORKED WITH THE CITY IN EXCESS OF 24 YEARS.

UM, EXACTLY HOW LONG I'M NOT REAL SURE.

I KNOW SHE'S BEEN AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT 24 YEARS AND WE'VE HAD A LITTLE, UM, UH, PLAQUE MADE UP.

SHE WILL BE GOING TO, UM, WINSTON SALEM, UH, ON NOVEMBER 19TH AND AWARDS BANQUET TO RECEIVE AN AWARD THERE FOR THE WHOLE STATE.

THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE ONCE AGAIN.

YEAH, SOMEWHERE ON HERE, WE CAN ADD TO IT OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE AS TIME GOES ON AND LIKE, I CAN'T SEE IT HERE QUITE AS WELL AS I COULD.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT HERE IT SAYS APPRECIATION WINDEX, AND , I'D LIKE EVERYBODY TO KNOW THE NEXT HALF YEARS, THAT WAS NUMBER ONE IN THE STATE, BUT IT CONFUSED THAT IT'S JUST THE , JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA OF THE JOB THAT SHE DOES.

UM, OVER 300 DIFFERENT LABORATORY PROCEDURES ARE PERFORMED EVERY MONTH.

UM, WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS.

UH, SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE SAMPLES ARE COLLECTED AND THAT THERE'S A CHAIN OF CUSTODY TAKES PLACE, A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT GOES ON.

BUT WHAT'S REALLY AMAZING IS THAT THE STATE HAS OUR LAB.

SHE HAS NEVER FAILED A PROFICIENCY TEST, WHICH MEANS THEY SEND A BLANK.

THEY KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, AND SHE'S GOT TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT ANSWERS.

HE'S NEVER FAILED ONE OF THOSE PROFICIENCY TESTS.

UH, AS SOON AS SHE DID, WE TRULY APPRECIATE THAT IS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING NO, I WAS SAYING, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING OR JUST, AND HAD NO ONE HERE, ESPECIALLY A PLAQUE AND I JUST WANT TO PLAY IT.

I HOPE THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO A FRACTION OF WHAT THIS HONOR MEANS

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TO ME, YOU'VE EXPRESSED THAT ALREADY GENUINENESS IS EASY TO SPOT.

IT MAKES ALL OF US REAL PROUD TO SEE ALL THESE AWARDS AND APRICOT, YOU KNOW, UH, PEOPLE CAN REALIZE WHAT A GOOD STAFF, GOOD CITY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON BEHALF OF OUR BOARD, THAT WE DID MAKE THE ARTS COUNCIL AND SOFTBALL ONE TIME.

THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS TO DISCUSS THE STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT AND LONG RANGE PLANNING COMMITTEE PROPOSAL FOR THE FIREMAN'S MUSEUM.

WE'LL MISS THE BRINGING OF BANG WILL COME FORWARD AND TELL US WHAT GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M EXCITED TOO.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT IS EXCITED ABOUT THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN NEWBURN.

AND I'M EXCITED, EXCITED THAT WE HAVE SO MANY BEST IN STATE HERE.

THE LUN MAN, THE YOUNG PATROLLERS, THIS LOVELY LADY BEHIND ME, I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL THAT WE HAVE THE BEST IN THE STATE, BUT I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE BEST FIREMAN'S MUSEUM IN THE STATE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT.

HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE RECEIVED IN YOUR PACKETS, A LETTER THAT I HAD SENT OUT TO YOU, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BEHIND IT.

I AM A MEMBER OF THE TDA TOURISM DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD AND MR. AL COLEY, WHO IS OUR CHAIR, APPOINTED ME AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE LONG RANGE AND STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE.

THAT COMMITTEE HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH DEVELOPING PLANS FOR TOURISM ATTRACTIONS AND HELPING DEVELOP TOURISM ATTRACTIONS.

IN OUR AREA, WE MADE A LIST OF PRIORITIES AND OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR THIS COMMITTEE WAS THE FIREMAN'S MUSEUM.

WHEN IT CLOSED IN JULY, WE WERE GREATLY CONCERNED THAT WE WERE LOSING A WONDERFUL ATTRACTION FOR OUR CITY.

WE ARE THE FIRST FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA.

WE HAVE A WONDERFUL HISTORY.

AND I THINK THE STORY NEEDS TO BE TOLD, YES, THERE ARE CHALLENGES.

YES, THERE ARE PROBLEMS. BUT AFTER SEEING WHAT I'VE SEEN TONIGHT AND KNOWING THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT LIVE IN THE CITY, NOTHING IS A CHALLENGE.

THE GOVERNOR HAS DECIDED TO CHALLENGE US.

AND I KNOW THAT'S WHY I STAND BEFORE YOU HERE TONIGHT.

HE HAS CHALLENGED US BY REDUCING THE PHONES THAT HE IS GIVING TO THE CITY, MAKING YOU MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE NOT EASY TO MAKE.

I WANT THE GOVERNOR TO KNOW THAT WE HERE IN NEWBORN WILL NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY.

WE WILL BAND TOGETHER.

WE WON'T STOP DOING WHAT WE THINK WE NEED TO DO.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE HE HAS CHOSEN NOT TO FUND US PROPERLY.

WE DECIDED IN TALKING ABOUT THE MUSEUM THAT THE CITY ALONE WAS HAVING PROBLEMS IN TRYING TO RUN THE MUSEUM, FUNDED ALL THE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING AN ATTRACTION LIKE THAT.

WE CAME BEFORE THE MAYOR AND MR. HARTMAN AND HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THEM, THE NOTES OF WHICH YOU HAVE TALKING ABOUT THE PRICE TAG OF THE MUSEUM, THAT IT HAD AN ANNUAL BUDGET OF AROUND $50,000 THAT THE BUILDING IT IS ALREADY HOUSED IN WAS IN GREAT NEED OF REPAIR THAT THE THOUGHT OR DISCUSSION OF MOVING IT INTO THE OLD FIRE STATION WAS EVEN A GREATER PRICE TAG.

AND SOMETHING OF WHICH WAS JUST IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU ALL TO DISCUSS AT THIS TIME.

I ALSO WANT TO MENTION TO YOU THE FACT THAT A CITY EMPLOYEE IS INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS, BEN GASKILL CURRENTLY WHO WAS THE ART CURATOR OF OUR FIREMAN'S MUSEUM, WHO HAS A KNOWLEDGE LIKE NOBODY ELSE HAS WHEN IT COMES TO THE FIREMAN.

MUSEUM IS CURRENTLY AS, EXCUSE ME, IS CURRENTLY A CITY EMPLOYEE.

AS OF JULY ONE.

HE, HE HAS BEEN PLACED IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY TO DO WORK.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME, MR. HARTMAN, IF IT'S NOT CORRECT THAT AS OF THE 30TH OR 31ST OF THIS MONTH, HE WILL BE TERMINATED AND HE WILL NO LONGER HAVE A JOB WITH THE CITY.

I WOULD HATE TO SEE US LOSE A VALUABLE CITY EMPLOYEE ANYWHERE, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW CITY EMPLOYEES DID NOT GET A RAISE, THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES AT HAND.

I STILL DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE A CITY EMPLOYEE BE LET GO.

SO I'M HERE BEFORE YOU, THE REQUEST IN YOUR PACKET WAS FOR $25,000.

THAT WAS A NUMBER THAT MR. HARTMAN AND I DISCUSSED, WE FIGURED THAT $50,000 WAS THE BUDGET.

WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE MUSEUM FOR SIX MONTHS.

THE REASON BEING IS WE FEEL THAT WE NEED SOME TIME TO PUT A PLAN TOGETHER AND THAT IF WE DO

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NOT HAVE THE MUSEUM OPEN AND BRING AWARENESS TO THE MUSEUM, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN RAISING FUNDS TO EITHER FUND IT, TO REHAB IT, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.

I HAVE A GREAT JUMPSTART IN THAT THE SUN JOURNAL HAS DECIDED TO TAKE ON THE FIREMAN'S MUSEUM AS ITS PROJECT FOR NATIONAL, MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY.

THEY WANT THE MUSEUM TO BE THEIR PROJECT.

AND WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IS CONTACT THE SCHOOLS, WHICH THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN PERMISSION FROM THE SCHOOLS TO MAKE THIS THEIR PROJECT.

AND ON OCTOBER 26, HAVE THE KICKOFF OR THE NATIONAL MAKE A DIFFERENT STAY AT THE FIREMAN'S MUSEUM.

THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE US A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO START THAT EVENT AND TO FUND THE EVENT.

AND THEN THEY WILL GIVE US $4,000 IN ADVERTISING AND MARKETING PROMOTION THAT WOULD PROMOTE THE FIREARMS MUSEUM AND LET PEOPLE BE AWARE OF IT.

AND THIS WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE TO US.

THE TDA IS OFFER ALSO WILLING TO LEND A HAND IN THE AREA OF MARKETING AND PROMOTIONS.

WE WANT TO COME IN AND HELP TO MARKET THE FIREMAN'S MUSEUM IN A BETTER MANNER.

IT MAY BE BY A NEW BROCHURE.

IT MAY BE BY PRESS RELEASES BY OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN MAKE COMMUNITY AND STATE MORE AWARE OF OUR MUSEUM.

WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO USE THE ASSISTANCE OF THE TBA TO GO IN THERE AND ASSESS THE HOURS OF THE MUSEUM.

MAYBE WE COULD ADJUST THE HOURS, MAKE IT BETTER FOR WHEN TOURISTS REALLY ARE IN TOWN, THEREFORE SAVING MONEY.

WE'D ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT THE PRICE OF THE TICKET.

CURRENTLY A TICKET INTO THE FIREMAN'S MUSEUM IS ROUGHLY $2.

WE FEEL THAT THE ATTRACTION IS WORTH AT LEAST $5, AND WE'D LIKE TO IMMEDIATELY RAISE THE PRICE TO GENERATE MORE FUNDS, LOOKING OVER THE BUDGET OF THE FIREMAN'S MUSEUM.

IF YOU SEE NOT, IF YOU SEE FIT NOT TO GIVE ME THE $25,000, LET ME ASK YOU TO AT LEAST THEN FUND BEN'S POSITION FOR SIX MONTHS, WHICH WOULD ROUGHLY COME TO ABOUT $2,200 A MONTH.

WHEN I LOOKED AT WHAT HIS SALARY IS, BECAUSE EXCUSE ME AGAIN, WE FEEL THAT IF WE COULD JUST HAVE THE MUSEUM OPEN, WE COULD PULL TOGETHER A COMMITTEE OF VOLUNTEER FIREMAN.

CURRENT FIREMAN, HOPE A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, AND SOME OTHER COMMUNITY MINDED PEOPLE WHO WOULD COME TOGETHER AND TRY TO BRING A COMPLETE PLAN BACK TO THIS BOARD ON HOW WE WILL TOTALLY FUND THE MUSEUM.

AND WE WILL MOVE IT FORWARD.

WE HAVE WONDERFUL VOLUNTEERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S EVIDENCE BY ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

THEY'RE ALL RETIREES AND OTHERS WHO WANT TO AND HELP US WITH OUR EFFORT.

BUT I NEED YOU AS MY FIRST STEP IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS GO THROUGH.

DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'VE SET AROUND? HOW WAS MINE? WASN'T AWARE THAT THAT'S THE GASOLINE WAS GOING TO BE, LET GO, WAS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE HE LIVES.

IN WHAT WAYS WE'VE PUT IN TEMPORARY PROVISIONS ABOUT WE DON'T HAVE POWER IN THE BUDGET.

'CAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DONE IN STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET IS THEY SAY, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT, UH, NO EMPLOYEE'S JOB WAS GOING TO BE ON THE, ON THE BARGAINING TABLE.

UH, ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT OFFICIALLY IN THE EMPLOYEE BUSINESS IS THE BOARD THAT HAS TO DIAL THE CITY MANAGER.

WE ARE POLICY AND HIS JOB FOR US, AND I CAN SEE WHERE HE'S COMING FROM.

AND IF HE'S GOT TO MAKE ENDS MEET, AND HE'S TRYING TO SHOW THAT WE GOT AROUND TO KEEP HIM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, AND TANA'S A BOARD WAS, WAS NEVER TOO CLOSE.

THE THING PERMANENTLY, IT WAS A TEMPORARY THING.

IF I WAS, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WAS OBVIOUSLY THE KEY PEOPLE.

AND IN MY COMPANION, YOU KNOW, UH, LETTING THE GUY GO, HE WAS ONE GO AND ALL THAT, THAT MAY NOT BE ANYTHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS HERE AS A PERSONNEL ISSUE, WHATEVER, BUT I'M JUST VOICING MY OPINION.

IT'S JUST, UH, WELL, I WOULDN'T LIKE TO DO THE FIRST, SORRY.

LET ME SAY THAT.

ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE PAYING SALARY.

WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING TO BRING SOME FUNDS IN, AS FAR AS TOURISTS VISITING THE MUSEUM, SELLING SOME THINGS, INCREASING THE COST.

SO WE HOPE TO REPLACE SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.

I HAVEN'T HAD AN IDEA TODAY THAT, UH, AND I THINK THESE ARE GOOD IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED AND ESPECIALLY THE IDEA DIDN'T THANK GOD THAT THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS FOR THE 17 HUNDREDS.

WHEN WE BLEW THE HORN AND THE MINUTE MAN CAME FLYING DOWN THE STREET, YOU KNOW, TO CAPTAIN HILL.

AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IN A COUPLE OF CASES, THIS BOARD,

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NONE OF US CAN DO IT.

I WILL NEVER HAVE NONE OF ANYONE BECAUSE WE PAID THE TAX PAYERS, MONEY, EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE ALSO, THEY DON'T HELP.

WE CAN GET TO MAKE SOME THINGS HAPPEN.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT AS AN ADJUNCT TO THIS, THAT WE MIGHT COULD DO, AND I THINK PEOPLE RESPOND TO IT IS IN OUR MAILINGS THAT WE SEND OUT LIGHT BILLS OR BILLS OR WHATEVER.

I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING OUT ANYWAY THAT WE MIGHT CAN ASK THEM TO MAKE THEM, THEY WANT TO DONATE MONEY TO PATCH THIS THING UP.

BUT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE FIREARM WAS MUSIC.

I THINK THAT PEOPLE, IF IT WAS SOME WAY THAT WE COULD COLLECT, OR IT COULD COLLECTED MONEY DURING THE MONTH, WITHOUT WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, THE FIREMAN COULD HELP US COMING UP WITH THAT KIND OF MONEY, SPREADING IT AROUND, LIKE THAT OFFERS OTHER PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.

AND THEY WILL RISE TO THE OCCASION COMING TO US TO GET THE 25,000 PUSHES LAST END OF THE POSSESSION OF LITERALLY HAVING TO DO IT, KICKS UP MOUNTS OUT TO MAKE ROOM.

AND I AGREE, AND WE COULD STILL DO SOMETHING AT THE MUM FEST.

THE FIRST OF ALL.

SO THE COMMITTEE WAS THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO RAISE MONEY OR ASK FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT OPEN AS MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT EVEN OPEN.

SO WE WANT TO SHOW INTENT ON THE PART OF THE CITY THAT WE ARE REOPENING THE MUSEUM.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE ARE RAISING THE MONEY TOWARDS FUNDING IT AND DOING WHATEVER.

BUT I DID NOT HAVE THE POWER TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S OPEN THE DOOR AND PUT THIS EMPLOYEE HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO RAISE YOUR MONEY.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY HAS AN OPINION AND HE, GOD KNOWS.

I SURELY DON'T THINK I'M ALWAYS RIGHT.

I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A MAN CAME UP TO ME AND HE SAID, DO YOU MIND DONATING TO SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US? AND I DON'T CARE, WHAT DO YOU FEEL THAT BLANK? AND I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM SOME MONEY.

AND THAT'S WHY THE IDEA THAT THE THING HAD TO BE OPEN AND HAD TO DO THIS AND HAD TO DO THAT, OR ELSE YOU COULDN'T RAISE ANY MONEY FOR IT.

I PERSONALLY DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I'M RIGHT.

I PERSONALLY THINK PEOPLE WILL DO IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S GOING TO SOMETHING THAT'S DEAR TO THE FIREARM AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT MATTERS.

I MEAN, A LOT OF THEM THAT WAS SAYING, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE FIREMEN CARE ABOUT IT AND THEY'LL CARE ABOUT IT.

SO MY POINT IS, AND I THINK WE CAN RAISE THE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

I HOPE THAT WE CAN PUT SOME INGENUITY TO ASK HIM THAT TEMPORARILY HELP US OUT TO KEEP THIS THING GOING, BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP IT GOING.

WE ARE GOING TO KEEP YOU IN THE SUNLIGHT.

AND AGAIN, WE WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYONE IN MY OWN HOUSE.

I HAVE SOME PICTURES THAT ARE DEAR TO ME AND COULD NOT BE REPLACED SOME OF MY RELATIVES AND THE DEAD AND GONE.

SOME OF THEM ARE NOT ON THE SHELF WHERE YOU CAN SEE, BUT I KNOW THE BOX, IT WOULD UPSET ME REAL BAD IF IT DISAPPEARED.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T CARE ABOUT IT.

IT'S THE SAME WAY WITH THAT MUSEUM.

THE FACT THAT THE DOOR IS CLOSED ON IT RIGHT NOW, I HAVE NOTHING IN THE WORLD TO DO WITH ANY ONE-ON-ONE RELATIONSHIP WITH WHAT ANY OF US THINK OF THE TREASURE IS INSIDE OF THAT MUSEUM.

ABSOLUTELY.

THAT I'M ALMOST OUT OF THE PICTURES OF MY RELATIVES IN THAT SHE BOX.

SO, AND ALL OF US AGREE ON THAT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU, YOUR COMMITTEE AND YOUR FOLKS COMING FORWARD AND COMING UP WITH SOME, I THINK YOU SOME GOOD IDEAS.

I'M GOING TO APPRECIATE SOME CONTINUAL CONTINUOUS HELP ON IT.

AND WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE SPACE.

I THINK SOMETHING LIKE PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE MAILER, CAN WE NOT DO THAT WITHOUT ANY DID JUST ASK PEOPLE, HEY, WE'VE GOT 23,000 PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, YOU KNOW, EACH ONE, BUT IF THEY FEEL LUCKY BEING AT HOME, I MEAN, BOOKKEEPING, THE WAY YOU JUST LEAVE IT ON TOP OF THE BILL OR DO WHATEVER, BUT WE CAN WORK IT OUT IN BETWEEN THAT.

I'M IN A FEW OTHER THINGS WE CAN FUND THIS MONEY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THAT'S MY ASSESSMENT.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AND DECIDE IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THE HOUSE THAT ARE READY TO OPEN THE MUSEUM NOW INSTEAD OF LIFE.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO WAIT WHAT THE WORLD IS VERSUS WHAT WE'RE WORTH WAS.

OTHER THING MIGHT BE THAT PUTS US ON JUST SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE FORESEE IS THE LONGER THE MUSEUM STAYS CLOSED.

UM, GOD'S LIKE AAA, WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THIS AREA.

UH, PUBLISHES A GOD.

AND IF YOU STAY CLOSE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, THEY WILL DROP YOU FROM THE GOD HAS DIFFICULT TO GET BACK INTO THE PUBLICATION OF IT.

AND THAT IS A GREAT RESOURCE FOR US, FOR TOURISTS FROM THE AREA.

CAUSE AAA GOES ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES, UH, THINGS THROUGHOUT THE STATE LISTINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, ONCE YOU'RE CLOSED FOR A CERTAIN

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PERIOD OF TIME, THEY WILL DROP YOU FROM THE LIST.

UM, AGAIN, UM, SANDY, RICHARDSON'S HERE FROM, UM, THE CONVENTION CENTER AS WELL AS, UH, UH, THE TDA IS OUR COLLEAGUES, OUR CHAIR, AND THEY'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

NANCY MANSFIELD FROM THE MARKETING COMMITTEE IS HERE AS WELL.

SO IF ANYBODY HAS AN QUESTIONS, WE'RE GLAD TO ANSWER IT.

WHAT CAN BE HELPFUL FOR AN EXAMPLE IS, IS PARTICULARLY THESE TIMES YOUR SITE THINGS ARE CLOSED OR QUOTE UNQUOTE, CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

IT BECOMES BETWEEN SPENDING $25,000 TO KEEP US IN THE BROCHURE.

WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AND ASHES, BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETHING IS TEMPORARILY CLOSED AND THIS IS SORT OF A STRANGE ANALOGY, BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN I GO INTO A RESTAURANT BATHROOM, MUCH TO MY DISTRESS.

IT SAID, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS PERMANENT, YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST KNEW I'M GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND THAT'S SORT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE SIGN ON THE DOOR.

IF SOMEBODY COMES OUT OF THE DAY AND SAYS, TEMPORARILY, WE DON'T WANT TO SAY, OH MY GOD, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT UP FOR THE CAMERA TWO OR THREE TIMES, I HAD PLACED MYSELF AND LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT A PERMANENT FLOAT, NOT AS FAR AS FIRST TIME TEMPORARY.

IT DEPENDS ON THE WAY THAT THE MONEY COMES BACK FOR.

I DON'T THINK MY FEELING IS FOR LISTENING AND LISTENING TO ALL OF THIS STUFF.

I DON'T THINK IT'S SO MUCH RIGHT NOW AS TEMPORARY CLOTHES PERMANENTLY CLOSED OR WHATEVER.

I THINK SOME OF IT IS, UH, WE GIVE THEM APPROVAL TO GO FOR AND POSSIBLY TRY TO GET IT OPEN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

UH, AND, AND, UM, AND WITH THAT, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO MONEY, BUT I, I WOULD HOPE THAT SO WE, AS A BOARD COULD LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING SOMETHING THAT CAN COMPLIMENT THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS GROUP.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND I, AND I, AND NOT SEEN IT FIND THE 25,000 WHATEVER, BUT SOMETHING THAT CAN COMPLIMENT THIS, THAT IS EXACTLY NOT ITS OWN SITE.

THE THING IS THAT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS NOT LIKE $25,000 AS BEING AN ABSOLUTE IS THE, WELL, ALL ISN'T GOING TO WORK FOR AN EXAMPLE, KEEP IT BEING LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THIS , UH, NOW HE MAY REQUIRE ME TO PAY ME IN SALARY.

WELL, HE IS IN LIMBO TOO.

AND THEY WOULD BE NICE FOR BEN TO KNOW IF HE NEEDS TO GET ANOTHER JOB.

AND THE THING IS, IF YOU LET THEM GO AND THEN WE CAN GET THE MONEY AND WE'VE GOT TO BRING THEM BACK, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEM.

WHEN YOU SAY, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, IT MAY BE THAT , IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE NOT AGAINST OPENING IT, WE'RE AGAINST AND JUST DUMP SOMEBODY ELSE OR SOMETHING ELSE TO COME UP WITH 25,000 MILES, UNLESS WE CAN GET YOUR MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO, ANYWAY, I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO, EXCUSE ME, YOU KNOW, SINCE THIS IS WHAT'S BEING ASKED OF US, THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION THE REQUESTS.

I THINK THE MAYOR HAS MADE IT AS SPOKEN FOR MOST OF US, THAT WE DO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT AND APPLAUD.

YOU THINK THAT THERE'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA AND WE'RE ESPECIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ANY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE GOING TO BE, LET GO.

WE HAD SOMEBODY WROTE IN THE PAPER, SAID THAT, UH, THE CITY BE ABLE TO PARK.

AND SO THEY SHOULD, UM, GIVE THE EMPLOYEES ARE RAISED.

AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T LOSE ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES, EVEN IF IT MEANT THAT WE COULDN'T GIVE THEM A RAISE AT THAT TIME.

SO WE HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THE GENTLEMAN, YOU KNOW, THAT NO ONE WAS LOSING THEIR JOB BECAUSE OF BUDGET RESTRAINTS.

HOWEVER, WHAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO TONIGHT GUYS, IS TO, UM, UH, TAKE THIS SUGGESTION UNDER ADVISEMENT AND ASK THE CITY MANAGER, IF HE WOULD LOOK INTO, UH, HOW WE COULD ACCOMMODATE, YOU'VE SEEN TO WHERE WE SUPPORTED.

I DECIDED I SUPPORT THE IDEA AND I KNOW THAT THEY DO.

AND WE WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH TO SEE THE, THE MUSEUM OPEN.

IF YOU WANT ME TO VOLUNTEER ON, MOM'S BLESSED OF THEY SAY, NO, I WILL.

BUT YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THIS, THIS IS JUST HOW FAR WE ARE WILLING TO GO IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS BE A WORKABLE SOLUTION.

HOWEVER, WE GOT TO GO TO THE DESK AND LOOK AT THINGS AND ADD THINGS AND SUBTRACT AND SEE WHAT KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WE WON'T

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JUST ARBITRARILY SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, USE THE MONEY.

CAUSE I KNEW WE HAD IT.

GOT IT.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT NOW.

UM, WE WOULDN'T KNOW.

HE WOULD KNOW.

SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS JUST THROW IT BACK ON HERE AND SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK INTO IT AND YOU ADVISE US HOW, LIKE DO, YOU SAID WE COULD WORK WITH YOU.

IT'S I'M SURE.

AND I DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T NEED A VOTE ON THAT GUN.

I'M SURE ALL THESE GUYS ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO PARTNER WITH YOU.

WE WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE OF COURSE THAT THE GENTLEMAN AND HE LOSES HIS JOB.

AND OF COURSE THAT THE, UH, MUSEUM IS WE OPENED AND OPEN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

SO I SUGGEST, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT, BUT I SAID, OKAY, THAT WE JUST ASKED MR. HARTMAN TO EVALUATE WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE AND LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP.

AND IF WE CAN, IN MANY OF THEM, AND NOW THE END OF THE COIN IS, DID YOU EVER DO IT? AND YOU COMMIT IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO AND KEEP ON DOING WHAT YOU DO.

IF YOU COULD COME UP WITH ANY OTHER OPENINGS, IDEAS, SUGGESTIONS, WHATEVER, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO GET THE SAME THING ACCOMPLISHED.

WE NEED THE CITIZENS.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO BETTER THING.

EVERYBODY HAS PARTICIPATED YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU HAD A PART AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN ONE BRAIN I CAN HANDLE IT.

THE MAN TOLD ME I WAS GOOD.

MR. MAYOR, SIR, CAN WE SET A TIMELINE NOW? I MEAN, THE MONTH S IS THIS WEEKEND AND IN OCTOBER 26 IS TWO WEEKS LATER.

CAN WE SET A TIMELINE OR WHAT WE PROPOSE TO DO TO HELP THE COMMITTEE AND, UH, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS GETTING SOMETHING ESTABLISHED FOR THIS WEEKEND, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TOWN AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO FILL UP SEVERAL OF THOSE FIREMAN'S BOOTS, WE'D ACCEPT THEIR OUT OF TOWN CONTRIBUTIONS.

THEN YOU GOT TO REMEMBER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, ONE OF THE PROPOSALS HERE WAS TO HAVE A PENNY DROP.

WELL, I BELIEVE IN A DOLLAR DRUG, WE GOT PER CAPITA HERE AND 25,000 POPULATION PLUS THE COUNTY, WHICH COULD CONTRIBUTE TO OUR PARTICULAR PROBLEM NOW.

AND I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE TROUBLE RAISING THE $25,000 BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER, THE 26TH.

WE GOT TO START IT.

WE GOT TO HAVE A PLAN YOU'VE GOT TO DO TO OPEN UP.

LET ME, WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT FUND RAISING? WELL, I THINK THE, UH, SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS MADE ARE REALLY GOOD SUGGESTIONS.

I THINK THAT, UM, IN JUST A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, THERE'S COULD BE SOME, SOME MONEY RAISED.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A PLAN AND, UM, WE JUST, WE JUST COULD NOT JUST HAVE NOT HAD THE TIME TO DO THAT.

WE'VE MET ONE TIME, UM, SOME OF THE , HEY, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN HANDLE IT.

LIKE I SAID, WHEN YOU'RE SAYING IT IN IOWA, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE VOLUNTEERS, THE FIREARM, AND SO FORTH THAT HAD DONE THIS FOR OTHER KINDS OF THINGS BEFORE, WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES OR EVEN LEGALITIES OR WHATEVER, JUST GO ON AROUND AND PLAIN AND SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, OUR HOMELESS FIREMAN'S MUSEUM AND THE COUNTRY AND THIS AND THAT.

AND THE OTHER WE'RE TRYING TO DO, TRYING TO SAY WE APPRECIATE IT FAST AND FIRE .

YEAH, I MEAN, WE HAD, WE HAD TALKED THEM IF THE MONTH DURING THE MONTH VISIT, THE MUSEUM WAS GOING TO BE OPEN.

WE WERE GOING TO CERTAINLY SEE SOME, TRY TO SEEK DONATIONS.

WE WOULD WANT TO PUT THE OLD FIRE TRUCK OUT IN THE AREA WHERE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO HAVE OUR STATIC DISPLAYS.

AND WE WERE GOING TO HAND OUT HOW MY FARMER WOULD WANT TO HAND OUT LITERATURE DURING THEIR, UM, THEIR ACTIVITIES DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DIRECT PEOPLE OVER TO THE MUSEUM.

AND THEN WE WOULD WANT TO LET BE IN, UM, PRETTY MUCH, UH, LOOK AT TRYING TO SEEK SOME DONATIONS AND HAVE A, UH, SOME TYPE OF A SIGN UP OR SOMETHING WITH A DONATION BOX TO, FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND DROP THEIR DONATIONS.

AGAIN, NOBODY AROUND THE WHOLE FESTIVAL WITH A BOOT OR WHATEVER THEY NEED.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AS MUCH JUST THAT THE MUSEUM ITSELF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ON MIDDLE STREET.

THE FIRE IS ALL AROUND THE FESTIVAL, BUT ONE OF THE, THE UNFORTUNATE THING TO HALDEMAN BALANCER IS THAT THE, THE FIREMAN'S THE FIREMAN OF, UH, CITY OF NEWBURN

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ARE GOING TO ALREADY BE OUT DOING SOME SOLICITING FUNDS.

THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SCHEDULED BACK, UH, SIX MONTHS AGO, UH, FOR YOUNG DA THAT FUELED THE BOOT THAT WE DO THREE, TWO OR THREE TIMES A YEAR, THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE DURING THE MONTH BEST.

AND THAT'S UM, SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE WERE THIS LATE IN THE GAME.

WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS DIRECT EVERYONE OVER TO THE, UH, TO THE MUSEUM.

WELL, WE CAN DO IT.

THAT WAS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE.

RIGHT? GREAT, GREAT JOB.

RAISING MONEY, RAISING MONEY FOR THE FIREARMS MUSEUM AND MDA, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF WE GET STUCK WITH THAT, THE TWO THINGS.

BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE EVERYBODY AND TO SPREAD THINGS OUT AND ASK FOR EVERYBODY'S HELP.

I MEAN, NOT REALLY.

I REALLY PUBLIC AND THIS AND THE ARTS AND DERIVED PLACE TELL THEM FULL OF THEM.

OH, I AGREE.

UH, HENRY SERMONS IS ON THE COMMITTEE AND HENRY WAS IN MY OFFICE THIS WEEK AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THE, JUST THE FIREMEN OF CRAVEN COUNTY WOULD, COULD DO TO HELP RAISE FUNDS FOR THE MUSEUM.

HE'S VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AND HE WOULD LOVE TO GET SOME OF THE RETIRED FIREMEN OF CRAVEN COUNTY INVOLVED.

YEAH.

WE'LL KEEP ON DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THE COMMITTEE IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

IF THAT'S A GOOD ENOUGH CHARGE FOR THE CHARGE OF HATE.

WELL, IT WAS THAT BEN, JUST KNOWING THAT WE COULD KEEP THOSE TWO ENTITIES.

I MEAN, THAT DOLLAR FIGURE WAS THE DOLLAR FIGURE THAT WE HAD TO PUT ON THIS.

UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

APPRECIATE THE HAIL AND LACK OF SIGHT IS NONE A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW.

SOMEBODY I'LL KNOW THE FIREARM, FIREMEN PUT OUT ALL THE FIREIES AND THEY HELPED PUT OUT ONE MORE ONE.

WELL, THE FIVE, WILL IT BE OPEN SATURDAY? YEAH.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO FIND OUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M NOT GONNA DO.

I TURN LIGHTS ON, WELL, UH, UNLOCK THE DOOR AND WALK IN.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, I THINK THE, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS FROM LISTENING TO THE, IN THE COMMITTEES THE OTHER DAY, WE HAVE SOME COMMITMENTS.

WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO HELP, BUT THEY'RE NOT REAL.

THEY DON'T WANT TO START, UH, DOING, UH, SOME COMMITMENTS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE MUSEUM TODAY AFTER THE MONTH PAST IS APRIL.

YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE SUN JOURNAL IS GOING TO GET REAL INVOLVED IN THIS AND GET THE SCHOOL CHILDREN INVOLVED INTO IT, THEY, UH, I DON'T WANT TO SET THEM UP FOR FAILURE.

THAT WAS THE EXAMPLE GIVEN TO ME BY THE SUN JOURNEY.

WE WANT TO DO THIS PROJECT, BUT WE DO NOT WANT TO SET THE CHILDREN UP FOR FAILURE TO SAY, YOU'VE RAISED X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, BUT I'M SORRY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN.

SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE OPEN, I WAS THINKING THAT YOU WANTED IT TO BE OPEN FOR THE MUM FIRST.

SO TO TRY TO INITIATE THE EFFORT, ARE YOU SAYING THEN THAT IF YOU OPEN THE MUM FAST THAT YOU READ, THAT'S THE PERMANENT REOPENING, YOU WILL BE REOPENED, UH, THEREAFTER.

IT'LL GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO DO OUR NEGOTIATION, BUT WE CAN GO, I CAN SEE US GOING, YOU KNOW, SAYING SINCE THIS AND THAT AND THE EVENT, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS INITIATE THIS PROJECT AT THAT.

THEN YOU OPEN IT UP AND YOU BEGIN TO INITIATE.

YOU BEGIN TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT YOU ARE PLANNING AND WHAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU, YOU ARE PLANNING TO DO.

AND THAT GIVES US TIME.

WELL, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE ROAD HERE IS MAYBE DURING THE MONTH HAS, IF WE DID WANT TO PUT A BOOT OUT WITH A SIGN OR WITH BEN IN THE FAR AND THE STATIC FIRE DISPLAY, JUST EXPLAINING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REOPEN THE MUSEUM AND WE ARE TAKING DONATIONS AND MAYBE WORK TOWARDS THE GOAL OF THE 26 WITH THE SCHOOL CHILDREN AND THE NATIONAL MAKE A DIFFERENT STATE.

MAYBE THAT BEING A KICKOFF TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WE COULD MAYBE RAISE THROUGH THE MUM FAST, AT LEAST TO OPEN IT UP FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS AND BRING SOME AWARENESS TO IT, TO SEE WHAT KIND OF MONEY WE COULD BRING IN.

MAYBE WE COULD, IS THAT A GOOD COMPROMISE WITH THAT'S IT, MAYBE THIS IS ONE CENTER ON THE SITE.

IF THEY WERE SAYING THEY DIDN'T WANT THE KIDS OR ANYONE TO GET STARTED TO RAISE MONEY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

AND THEN THE PROGRAM ITSELF, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY SAY.

I DON'T WANT TO GET THE KIDS INVOLVED AND OPEN DURING A BLOCK OF TIME AND THEY MAY HAVE TO CLOSE IT FOR A WEEK TO DO THIS OR THAT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN SAYING, WELL, NAV, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE UP MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND FRIDAY.

WE AIN'T GOING TO WORK, BUT MAYBE WE'LL WORK AT THE THURSDAY.

I THINK THEY MEAN THE PROJECT HAS A HOME.

OKAY.

WELL THAT WAS THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE.

YEAH.

THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO LET PEOPLE GO OUT AND RAISE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY AND LET THE WHOLE THING ROLL LOW.

BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN,

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UH, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LOGISTICS ARE.

LIKE MOMMY SAID, OBVIOUSLY, HOPEFULLY THAT'S A GOOD START, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO TURN ON THE AIR CONDITIONING.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO DO.

WE HAVE TO SWEEP THE FLOOR.

YEAH.

I USE THE TERM NO-BRAINER MY WIFE USES IT A LOT WITH ME FOR SOME REASONS, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WILL LEAVE HER TO SNAP TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

SO MR. MAYOR, COULD WE HAVE TO AGREE TO DO THAT TONIGHT? IS THAT WHAT Y'ALL WERE LOOKING FOR? I AGREE.

AGREED.

WE AGREED TO OPEN IT FOR THE MONTH FAST AS YOU KICK OFF YOUR PROJECT, SHOW HIM WHAT IT IS TO BE MISSING.

YES, MR. FREE.

I THINK, I THINK HAVING THE DOORS OPEN AND THE FIREMAN WHO WILL BE AT THE DISPLAY DURING THE MONTH FAST DIRECTING PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE MUSEUM AND SEE WHAT'S, THERE IS GREAT.

ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS AND WELL, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I SEE IS NUMBER ONE, NOT ALL OF THIS STUFF IS THERE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE DELICATE ITEMS HAVING TO BE STORED IN A MORE OF A CLIMATE CONTROLLED SITUATION WHILE IT IS NOT FULLY OPEN, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IN STARTING ANY KIND OF AN EFFORT LIKE THIS.

AND KNOWING THAT ONCE WE START IT, IT ALMOST HAS TO KEEP ROLLING.

UH, WE CAN'T IT OPEN FOR SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE THAT, OR EVEN OPEN FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY DURING THE SUMMERS AND THINGS.

AND I'M NOT SAYING JUST DURING THE SUMMERS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF THOUGHT AS TO WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MUSEUM OR HOW IT'S OPERATED IN THE FUTURE.

AND LIKE THE MAYOR HAS EMPHASIZED.

AND I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE MY HEART IS.

THAT MUSEUM NEEDS TO BE OPEN.

THAT MUSEUM IS A BIG PROJECT.

IT HAS ALMOST OUTGROWN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH BECAUSE WE HAVE BECOME SO INTERESTED IN SEEING IT DONE RIGHT WHEN THE BUILDING WAS BUILT AND THINGS WERE JUST PUT IN THERE AS BOBBY CAN TELL YOU, THE RIGHT CONDITIONS DID NOT EXIST.

AND WE'VE LOST SOME ITEMS THROUGH JUST BEING IMPROPERLY DISPLAYED BECAUSE NO ONE KNEW REALLY HOW TO DO IT.

A MUSEUM IS NOT A SIMPLE THING TO OPERATE AND TO TRY TO REALLY QUICKLY OPEN IT ON A LIMITED BUDGET IS GOOD FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, BUT IT'S KIND OF A DICEY SITUATION.

IF WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT AND THEN TRY TO HAVE A FUN DRIVE HERE AND RAISE SOME MONEY HERE AND TAKE DONATIONS THERE.

WHAT WE NEED TO REALLY, AND THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IS A LONG TERM, PROFESSIONALLY OPERATED MUSEUM, AND A MUSEUM IS NOT AN EASY THING TO OPERATE.

WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE DO REOPEN IT, THAT IT'S OPEN IN THE PROPER WAY AND WITH THE RESOURCES TO MAKE IT THE MUSEUM, IT DESERVES TO BE.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT BEING OPEN THIS THIS WEEKEND.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE.

I THINK THE, IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT'S THERE.

I THINK WE DO NEED TO RAISE THE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF WHAT IT REPRESENTS AND WHAT THE VOLUNTEERS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS COMMUNITY OVER THE YEARS, BUT ALSO DON'T WANT IT TO BE MADE TO SEEM LIKE A SIMPLE THING, BECAUSE IT IS A MUSEUM AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE AND US TRADING RESOURCE TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE KEPT FOR THE FUTURE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS AFTER, BUT IT'S ALMOST OUTGROWN THE CITY OF NEWBORNS ABILITY TO MAINTAIN IT IN THE WAY IT DESERVES TO BE MAINTAINED.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE, BECAUSE THIS IS TDA THAT WE'RE TALKING TO NOW, BECAUSE TDA IS, IS, UH, PUTTING THIS TO GUESS.

WELL, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THEY'RE SPEARHEADING THE EFFORT AND THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S WONDERFUL, BUT IT PROMOTES TOURISM AND IT MAY KEEP THE TOURIST HERE AN EXTRA DAY.

AND THAT MEANS SALES TAX.

I MEAN, IT MEANS MONEY IN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH, WHICH IS GOOD.

THAT'S WHAT TOURISM IS ALL ABOUT FOR EACH DOLLAR IN SALES TAX THAT THE CITY OF NEWBURGH COLLECTS FROM TOURISTS FROM TOURISM CRAVEN COUNTY COLLECTS FIVE.

AND I THINK THAT WE CANNOT IGNORE THE FACT THAT CRAVEN COUNTY SHOULD STEP UP TO THE PLATE SINCE CRAVEN COUNTY BENEFITS FROM THE MERE SALES TAX ALONE.

THIS GENERATED BY TOURISM FIVE TIMES AS MUCH AS THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

SO IT KEEPS COMING BACK TO NEWBURGH, BUT IT'S BIGGER THAN NEWBURN.

AND IT DESERVES A WIDER SUPPORT BASE THAN JUST THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

THE TDA PEOPLE,

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THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE CAN GIVE ANYONE STATISTICS ON HOW MUCH THE EFFECT SPREADS THROUGH THE COUNTY FROM A DOLLAR SPENT HERE, HOW MUCH THROUGH THE COUNTY, THE EFFECT SPREADS FROM A DOLLAR SPENT IN HALF LOC OR ANYWHERE ELSE, EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY BENEFITS FROM THAT MUSEUM.

IT'S NOT JUST A BENEFIT TO NEWBURN.

AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A MORE WIDE VIEW OF HOW IT SHOULD BE FUNDED.

IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURGH TO CONTINUE TO FUND THAT MUSEUM THE WAY IT REALLY HAS TO BE.

IF IT'S GOING TO BE A REAL MUSEUM, THE LETTER HERE STATES THAT THE CONDITION OF THAT BUILDING IS TERRIBLE.

FROM A STRUCTURAL STANDPOINT, IT LOOKS GOOD ON THE SURFACE, BUT WHEN YOU GO INSIDE AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU SEE THE PROBLEMS, THIS IS $300,000 WORTH OF REPAIRS NEEDED FOR THAT BUILDING.

AND THAT BUILDING IS VERY CROWDED.

IT'S A VERY SMALL BUILDING, 800,000 OR MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE TO CONVERT THE MAIN FIRE STATION, THE OLD MAIN FIRE STATION INTO A MUSEUM.

AND THAT MY, MY WAY OF THINKING IS WHERE THE MUSEUM SHOULD EVENTUALLY BE.

IT'S A BIG PROJECT AND RAISING PENNIES OR RAISING A DOLLAR HERE AND THERE TO KEEP IT OPEN LONG ENOUGH TO GET THIS EFFORT.

REALLY ROLLING IS FINE, BUT WE'RE GOING, WE REALLY NEED TO THINK BIGGER.

AND LONG-TERM, I CARE ABOUT THAT MUSEUM.

I WANT TO SEE IT BIGGER AND BETTER.

I WANT IT TO BE HERE FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME, SOME REALLY SERIOUS PLANNING.

AND CONSIDERING IT LIKE A MUSEUM, WE LOST THE BEST CIVIL WAR MUSEUM DISPLAY IN NORTH CAROLINA OUTSIDE.

PERHAPS THE MUSEUM IN RALEIGH, WHEN THE PRIVATELY OPERATED CIVIL WAR MUSEUM WAS FORCED TO CLOSE, SIMPLY BECAUSE THE INCOME FROM JUST TICKETS COULD NOT MAINTAIN IT.

MANY RESIDENTS OF NEWBURN NEVER WENT THROUGH THE DOORS OF THAT CIVIL WAR MUSEUM.

AND WE LOST A GYM.

WE LOST A JUUL.

I, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE FIREMAN'S MUSEUM PERMANENTLY.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK FOR SERIOUS LONGTERM, WIDESPREAD SUPPORT.

AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS REALLY THINKING ABOUT IS HOW WE, HOW WE MAKE IT BIGGER AND BETTER, OR EVEN BETTER, MAYBE NOT BIGGER BUT BETTER LONG-TERM.

AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

AND WE, UM, WE WANT THE SIX MONTHS, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ASKING TO TRY TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND INVESTIGATE GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS WE REALIZED THIS IS A MONUMENTAL TASK.

WE KNOW THAT IT IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF RAISING A FEW DOLLARS.

IT'S A MATTER OF, OF MAYBE RAISING A MILLION DOLLARS.

WE DON'T KNOW IN THE WAY OF GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS, BUT WE ARE WILLING TO GIVE IT OUR BEST EFFORT AND OUR BEST SHOT TO SAVE SOMETHING THAT IS VALUABLE TO THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I FEEL TO THE STATE IT'S, IT'S THE HISTORY OF YESTERDAY.

IT TELLS ABOUT TODAY.

AND IT'LL CERTAINLY TELL ABOUT TOMORROW, IF WE CONTINUE TO TAKE GOOD CARE OF IT AND BE GOOD STEWARDS OF WHAT WAS LEFT TO US.

SO, UM, YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT AS THE CHAIR OF THE STRATEGIC LONG RANGE COMMITTEE.

AND I WOULD SAY THE COMMITMENT OF THE TDA TO PURSUE THIS AND DO OUR VERY BEST EFFORT TO TRY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU TONIGHT.

I CAN'T ASSURE YOU THAT WE WILL RAISE A MILLION DOLLARS.

I CAN'T ASSURE YOU OF ANYTHING, BUT WHAT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT YOU WILL HAVE AT LEAST MY ENERGY AND MIND AND MOVE IT FORWARD.

I TOLD BOBBY I DIDN'T, I WAS NOT ORIGINALLY GOING TO CHAIR THIS EFFORT THAT I WOULD GET IT GOING AND GET IT UP.

AND HERE I STAND BEFORE YOU.

AND ONCE I DO THAT, I WAS STAYING COMMITTED TO THE PROJECT THAT WE SEE IT THROUGH, AND WE MAKE IT THE VERY BEST AND SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WILL BE VERY PROUD OF.

IT PROMISE YOU THAT.

AND THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU.

YOU'VE GOT SOME GOOD PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE WITH ALLEN, EVERY WOMAN.

AND, AND, UH, I JUST, I JUST LIKE, I JUST HOPE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING, UH, FOR A WIDER FUNDING BASE THAN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH PLUS TREASURY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT DEEP, THE BUG.

IT'S NOT THAT DEEP RIGHT NOW.

UH, YES, I, I AM.

I'M, DORST THE IDEA OF WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GET THIS EFFORT ROLLING, BUT IT'S, IT'S A HARD THING TO SAY, OKAY, RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T SAY RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, HERE'S A CHECK, BUT WE, IT WILL CERTAINLY BE DISCUSSED THE PROCEEDING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I APPRECIATE IT.

YOU MAY HAVE, BEFORE YOU MOVE, GO INTO FURTHER, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PRESENCE OF FORMER MAYOR, BUT YOU CAN GO IN THE AUDIENCE HONORED TO HAVE HER IN OUR MEMPHIS TONIGHT.

I CAN'T SAY THAT.

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WELL, WAIT, WE APPRECIATE YOU GOOD SHAPE THAT THE CITY WAS LEFT-HANDED RIGHT.

GOT A JOB THAT MUCH EASIER.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS A VERY LUCKY MAN TO BE IN THE LINEUP OF MAYORS THAT PROCEEDED.

SO NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE QUEST AND PETITION OF CITIZENS HERE.

I THINK IT'S HERE.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, JUST TO KIND OF START JERRY HOPKINS, 2, 2, 9 NEW STREET, THE MONTH FEST THIS YEAR IS EXPANDING THE CLOSURE OF BROAD STREET FROM HANCOCK TO EAST FRONT STREET.

LAST YEAR, THEY CLOSED IT FROM HANCOCK TO CRAVE IT.

AND THE DETOUR WAS NEW STREET.

THE DETOUR CAME LOW HANCOCK DOWN THE CRAVE AND BACK TO BROAD NEW STREET FROM CRAVING.

THE EAST FRONT STREET IS ONE WAY I SENT, UH, CHIEF PALUMBO AN EMAIL ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AGO.

HE SAID HE WOULD BRING IT UP TO THE SWISS BEAR COMMITTEE.

AND I THINK HE SAID, MR. MEADOWS, DID HE? YES.

AND WE HAVE, UH, WHERE IS THE TRAFFIC ON A GOAL? WELL, THERE'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMS IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH TRACTOR TRAILERS AND TRUCKS COMMENT AT ALL TIME OF THE EVENING AND NIGHT.

THEY'VE WAITING UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE TO DECIDE TO DETOUR.

UH, WHAT, WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT? WELL, THE DJ HAS BEEN PLAYING SINCE THE DAY WE PLAN THE MOVE.

THE DETOUR WILL ACTUALLY BE TRAFFIC COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND WE'LL GET SOUTHBOUND STREET, GO DOWN TO METCALF, COME OUT FOR ALL AND GO OUT OF TOWN.

THAT WAY, ANYTHING WE'RE GOING TO BE TRUE OR TRACKS WOULD BE TRUE BEFORE THEY GET DOWNTOWN.

BUT IF YOU GET DOWNTOWN, THEY'LL HIT METCALF STREET AND THEY'VE BEEN ON SOUTH LAWN, GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE.

NOW CAN WE GUARANTEE MR. HOBBINS OR ANYONE ELSE AND WILL NO TRAFFIC BE IN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT? NO, BUT, BUT WE HAVE, WE HAVE PUT WE'RE PLANNING TO PUT, UH, LOCAL TRAFFIC ONLY SIGNS ALONG JOHNSON STREET ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PERIMETER AND DO THE BEST WE CAN, BUT I WILL ASSURE HIM AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT TRAFFIC WILL BE EVERYWHERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY TRACK.

OH, NO.

THE REASON BEING WAS THAT THERE WAS, AT THE TIME I SENT THE EMAIL, THERE WAS NO DETOURS ESTABLISHED.

THERE WAS NO LETHAL DETOUR BECAUSE FESTIVAL THIS WEEKEND.

BUT I CAN ASSUME IN MY MIND, THE DANGER HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE TODAY, TODAY WE MOVED IN.

OKAY.

THEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD TO THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE LEAH.

SHE IS DETOUR WAS NEW STREET.

IT WAS SO WHERE DID IT GO LAST? NOT JOHNSON.

JOHNSON NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE, BUT THIS YEAR HE'S SMOKING THREE TO GET HIS CLOTHES.

SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT.

THAT'S GREAT.

BUT, UH, WHICH THE CHIEF WAS HERE.

BUT AS I SAID, YOU HAVE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

I'M SORRY.

I NEED TO GET BACK TO ME, BUT I HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS HISTORIC DISTRICT TO SAY NOTHING, NOT ABROAD, BUT WE DO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE POLICE THAT YOU WILL BE THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT HE WOULD GET BACK TO ME.

HE NEVER GOT BACK TO MR. HARTMAN SAYS QUESTION, HOW MANY ARE YOU ADDRESSING THE CONCERN? OTHERWISE THERE'S AN ATTEMPT.

JUST KEEP THE TRAFFIC.

NO, NO.

TH THE DETOUR, UH, ARROWS WILL NOT BE WHAT, THE BROAD, WHAT THEY WERE LAST SHIT.

HE SAYS IT WAS JOHNSON STREET.

I SAID IT WAS NEW STREET.

CAUSE I SAW THE DIESEL ASSIGNS LAST YEAR BECAUSE THEY, THEY CLOSED LAST YEAR.

I WILL, I WILL STAND CORRECTED LAST YEAR.

IT WAS TO CRAY, BRIEF TO NEW STREET AND LIT HABITAT.

ONE LANE ROAD.

NO, IT WAS THE TWO LANES FROM, UH, HANCOCK TO CRAIG.

AND HAVE YOU FIXED IT? THERE IS NOTHING TO FIX IT HERE

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BECAUSE THAT END OF THE TRAFFIC IS BLOCKED OFF AS THEY COME ACROSS A BRIDGE ALREADY.

THEY'RE ALL CAP EAST, UH, SOUTH FRONT STREET.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YOU WERE ON THE AGENDA HERE TO COME FOR MR. BARRY.

LISTEN, MY NAME'S ABBY CANNON.

I LIVE BLOCK ONE, GETTING DEAL WITH MY BEHIND PARK.

UH, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE STREET NEXT TO THE WATER.

UH WHEN Y'ALL TOOK THE LAND AND THE LIGHT Y'ALL TOOK PART OF OUR YARD AND PART OF OUR RECREATION AREA, WHICH WE CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT THAT, BUT Y'ALL GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.

WHEN THE WIND BLOW DOWN TO NORTHEAST FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS, THE SPRAY THAT COMES OFF OF THE WATER.

AND WHEN Y'ALL START JUMPING, GO WHITEWATER INTO THE POND, IS THIS GOING TO BE A HEALTH PROBLEM TO US? YEAH, THIS IS DAVE NAKED.

MEAT IS STILL HERE.

IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, IS IT NOT TRUE? THAT THAT AREA THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS NOT EVEN GOING TO BE USED.

IN OTHER WORDS, WOULD BE THE FARTHEST PART AWAY FROM YOU ON EXTRA WATER.

IN OTHER WORDS, SPRAY, NOT YOUR, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHERE HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

WELL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE APP? IS THAT NOT CORRECT? OR IT'S WHAT DAVID'S FOR A MINUTE, AS FAR AS A SERGEANT OR WHATEVER, NO WORDS THAT WON'T MEET IT, THE WHOLE CAR AND WALK TOWARDS THE REAR OF IT A MUCH SMALLER ROUND AREA.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING AT THIS POINT, AND HE'S NOT HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY IS THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE, DAVE IS NOT OUT THERE IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION WITHOUT THE SCHOOL WAS TO GET HIM TO ANSWER IT.

AND IF YOU WILL GIVE ME YOUR PHONE NUMBER OR WHATEVER, I'LL HAVE TO GET UP WITH YOU.

YEAH.

BECAUSE IF IT IS AND THAT PREY, AND WHERE'D YOU GET THIS SPRAY FROM THE NORTHEAST WIND, THEN WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IT IN OUR BACKYARD.

BUT IF THEY JUMP IT, EXCUSE ME, AND THEY DUMP IT IN HERE, THAT WATER IS GOING TO COME OVER HERE.

WELL, ACCORDING TO, ACCORDING TO WHAT THE STUDIES SAY, WOULD YOU STATE AND SO FORTH WHAT THEY PERMIT THEY'VE APPLIED FOR? AND THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS GOING TO BE TOTALLY SEPARATE.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S AN AREA BACK THERE.

IT WILL BE CORDONED OFF WITH ITS OWN DIET, THE WALL OR WHATEVER.

AND THAT ORGANIZE THAT AWAY.

IT'S NOT GOING INTO THE RIVER, RIGHT? YOUR WATER WILL STILL BE CONNECTED TO, HE IS NOW AT THREE, ACTUALLY THREE LAKES THERE THAT THE LARGE ONE WON'T BE INVOLVED AT ALL THIS LITTLE SMALL ONE WAY AT THE FAR END IS THE ONE THAT WILL BE MOST INVOLVED AS FAR INTO THE, JUST STARTED OUT TWO YEARS AGO, WHATEVER IT WAS MAN, SEVEN YEARS AGO.

BUT ANYWAY, I'LL GET HIM TO DIRECTLY.

IF YOU'LL LEAVE YOUR NAME AND PHONE NUMBER, IF WE HAVE IT OR WHATEVER THEY DO, ALL THEY HAVE, THEY CAN GIVE YOU A CALL AND COME OUT IN THEIR MEETING HERE OR WHATEVER THEY TELL YOU WHAT EXACTLY WHAT THE PERMIT IS APPLIED FOR.

AND WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN THE WHOLE BUSINESS.

AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE NO, IF IT'S A CONCERN, ALL OF THAT, HEY, WHEN I I'VE BEEN INVOLVED FROM DAY ONE, WHEN THIS PROJECT FIRST CAME TO LIFE, AND THE FIRST THING THAT I SAID THE FIRST DAY WAS IF IT DOES ANY HARM BEING, IT ARISES AROUND THAT WATER, I AIN'T GOING TO HAVE ANY PART OF IT.

IT WON'T BE INVOLVED IN IT.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED OUT OF THERE.

AND I MADE THAT STATEMENT AND I STILL STAND BY THAT STATEMENT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THE STATE WOULDN'T LET US, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BODY THERE DON'T ASK, GREAT IS EITHER RETIRED OR DISABLED, EVERY ONE OF THEM AND PROBABLY MY FIELD AND REALLY THEY WERE BOBBY GAMES PROPERTY.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE BACKLOG.

I SEE.

THAT WAS GOING TO BE PART OF WHAT I AFFLUENT WHEN IN THE BEGINNING, THAT EVEN THE WAY IT'S GOING TO HURRICANE CLOSE TO WHERE YOU ARE ON THE WAY BACK IN THE BACK.

AND ACCORDING TO

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THE HYDROLOGISTS, THAT WHEN THAT DIET IS BUILT, IT DOESN'T CONNECT TO THAT PART.

THEORY IS STILL JUST BE THE REVERSE THAT'S TO BAY BACK THERE, WHERE Y'ALL WERE DRINKING WATER INTO THE RIVER NOW, UH, BACK OFF TO THE LEFT OF THEM.

YES, SIR.

DO YOU SEE HIS WAY IN THE VERY BACK BY THE NEUSE RIVER OR THE WORD WENT IN THERE AND DUG A DRAIN AND GRINDING WATER EITHER LIKE IN TO NUCLEAR, THAT SOUNDS RIGHT.

WON'T BE DRAINING INTO THE RIVER.

THAT WAS STILL BEING GOING ON THE GROUND AND MAKING ITS WAY BACK.

THERE WON'T BE ANY ONE GOING IN RIVER THAT TIME FROM THE, FROM PLACES TO CONTAIN.

THE GENERAL AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHERE THE NEAREST WALL WILL BE OF THAT NEW LINCOLN'S GOING TO BE CREATED.

AND ALL THAT AREA WHERE HE LIVES.

THAT'LL ALL BE TIED TO THE RIVER.

THERE'S A WHY YOU NEED IS RIGHT THIS MINUTE, THIS TIME YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT WILL BE ANY DIFFERENT FOR YOU THAN IT IS, RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S THE POINT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE ASK FOR APPROVAL.

I'LL GET HIM TO IN, AND YOU SIT DOWN AND SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THIS.

SO WE COULDN'T HAVE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD.

AND THAT'S WHY THE STATE IS LOOKING AT IT UNTIL THEY SURE THAT MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT VISITING DATABASE.

WHEN I SAY IT.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING I'M NOT THE EXPERT ON IT, BUT I'M JUST GOING BY WHAT I'M BEING TOLD.

YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PLAN AND THE STATE IS THE FINAL ARBITER WILL DECIDE AS TO WHETHER IT CAUSES ANY HARM OR NOT.

AND AIN'T GOING TO LET IT GO IF IT DOES.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHY WE KEEP SENDING STUFF UP TO THE STATE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT.

FIRSTLY, THE LAST THING WE SENT UP THERE, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T INVOLVE THE WHOLE THING BACK INTO JUST A MUCH SMALLER WE'RE AT RECREATION AREA AND OUR GOLF COURSE HERE ARE Y'ALL GOING TO STORE ANY OF THAT OR IS IT GOING TO STAY LIKE, UH, THERE AREN'T ANY PLANS TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT WHAT I KNOW THE AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE IT COMES RIGHT UP NEXT TO YOUR PROPERTY, RIGHT? AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT WON'T AFFECT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY.

NOW THE CITY OWNS THAT PROPERTY.

SO THEY MAY, THEY MAY DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY AT SOME TIME FOR SOME RECREATIONAL PURPOSES OR USE IN A FORMAL WAY.

BUT THERE'S NOT ANY PLANS RIGHT? AT THIS POINT, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE NOT PART OF THE AFFLUENT PART OF THE BOARD WAS JUST LIKE COLD CALLS.

WELL, YOU CAN'T GIVE HIM A GLUTE MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE KEEP IT NOW.

NO ONE, I MEAN, IF IT WENT IN ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER, I LIKE THE WAY IT LIFTS.

I JUST WROTE ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY.

YOU KNOW, I GREW UP BACK IN THAT AREA.

I'LL GET HIM TO CALL ON YOU OR YOU CAN CALL HIM OR EITHER BUDDY CAN TELL HIM THAT.

I ASKED YOU TO CALL ME, SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT YOUR THING.

AND IF YOU'RE SATISFIED OR NOT SATISFIED OR WHATEVER, GIVE ME A CALL AND WE'LL GET YOU SOME MORE ANSWERS OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU WANT.

WELL, LIKE I SAID, ERICA TURN WAS THE HEALTH HAZARD.

AND IF IT WERE GOING TO BE A HEALTH HAZARD, WOULD THE JT GOING TO MOVE? UH, IF IT WAS GOING TO BE A HEALTH HAZARD, IF IT'S A HEALTHY EATING THE MEAL FOR MOVING TO, IF THERE'S ANY HEALTH HAZARD, THE STATE WILL NOT ALLOW US TO DO IT, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY TO GIVE YOU A PERMIT AND Y'ALL GO AHEAD.

IT'S THE BACK BAR.

THE STATE WILL BE CHECKING EVERY DAY.

THERE'LL BE, THEY DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING EITHER.

YEAH.

I'LL ALSO STARTED THE QUALITY OF THE WATER.

THAT'S GOING TO BE DISCHARGED.

THERE IS GOING TO BE SO HIGH THAT IT CAN BE ALLOWED TO HAVE HIM IN CONTACT WITH DRINKING, WHICH COULD BE IN CONTACT WITH WATER.

WOULDN'T HURT JUST BELOW DRINKING WATER STANDARDS, THE WATER THAT WILL BE DISCHARGED AFTER .

IT'S NOT.

SO YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

MAP IS MY UNDERSTANDING, CORRECT? RIGHT WHERE YOU LEAVE DAVID, BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE THAT IS THE ENGINEERED EXPERT ON IT.

AND

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WE'RE JUST GOING TO OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM HIM.

AND THEN HE MIGHT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM HIM THAN WHAT WE SAY.

GIVE ME A CALL.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S THAT OFF.

BUT ALL THE WHITES WERE CRAVING THE OPERATOR BACK IN LATE EIGHTIES AND EARLY NINETIES.

I CAN TELL THAT MY LICENSE RUN OUT.

SO I KNOW THAT WHAT WORKS ON PAPER, DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK IN REALITY.

THAT'S TRUE.

THAT'S WHY I WAS AT THE HOUSE TOO.

BUT I APPRECIATE, AND ANYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT? DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID.

YOU GOT A RIGHT TO KNOW THERE'S A MAN.

OKAY.

IS ANYBODY ELSE HERE? ALL PETITION THEM CITIZENS.

NEXT THING WE HAVE OPPOSED HEARING CONCENTRATED, DEAN CDBG AND 2009 CDBG DEMONSTRATION.

MY DAY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET UP AND GIVE US A DOCTORAL DISSERTATION OR JUST GETTING THE CHECKS? WELL, UM, UH, WE'LL CUT.

WE'LL CUT TO THE CHASE, BUT I DO NEED TO JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER EACH OF THEM, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE MINUTES IN ANY PUBLIC THAT MIGHT LIKE TO COMMENT ON IT.

UH, THIS IS A REQUIRED, CLOSE OUT PUBLIC HEARING FOR TWO GRANTS, CDBG GRANTS THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED.

UH, THE BOARD IS REQUIRED TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT TAKE NO ACTION.

IT JUST GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO COMMENT, UH, TO REPORT TO YOU.

THE 2000 CDBG CONCENTRATED NEEDS GRANT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AS LAID OUT IN THE PROGRAM.

WE COMPLETED ALL THE HOUSING UNITS THAT WE STATED WE WOULD IN THE GRANT.

PLUS WE PUT IN ABOUT 1,540 LINES OF SEWER, A HUNDRED SEVENTY, FIFTY HUNDRED FORTY LINEAR FEET OF SEWER, 170 FEET OF WATER LINE REPLACEMENT, 900 LINEAR FEET OF STRAIGHT AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT.

ALL THIS TOOK PLACE IN THE GARDEN STREET AREA.

I WAS TALKING TO THE CITY ENGINEER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND HE WAS SAYING THAT HE COULD ALREADY TELL A DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS INFILTRATION FROM THE GARDEN STREET AREA BECAUSE OF THOSE NEW PIPES.

SO THAT'S HELPING US ALREADY, AS FAR AS OUR WASTE TREATMENT PROGRAM AND THE SERVICE TO THE FOLKS IN THAT COMMUNITY HAVE, HAS GREATLY IMPROVED AS A PART OF THE WORK.

AND WE'LL BE DOING SOME MORE OF THAT WITH THE 2002 PROGRAM.

YES, IT'S GOOD.

WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER, UH, THE SECOND GRANT THAT WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED IS A CDBG INFRASTRUCTURE HOOKUP DEMONSTRATION PROGRAM.

AND THIS IS FOR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER THAT HAVE LOW MODERATE INCOME FOLKS THAT HAVE NOT CONNECTED TO THE SEWER TO GO AHEAD AND GET THEM CONNECTED TO IT, IMPROVED ONCE AGAIN, IMPROVING WATER QUALITY AND SERVICE AND SO FORTH.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO 21 HOUSEHOLDS, UH, 19 HOOKUPS WHEN THE PEMBROKE COMMUNITY, UH, TWO WERE IN THE WOODROW COMMUNITY.

AND THAT WAS A $75,000 GRANT.

WE SPENT 73,460.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO GET, UH, ANOTHER, UH, CONNECTION IN THERE, BUT WE WERE PLEASED WITH, UH, THE EFFORT AND THE STATE WAS ALSO, SO THOSE TWO PROJECTS, UH, BOTH OF THEM HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED.

ALL THE PAPERWORK'S DONE AND JUST OPENED IT UP FOR ANYBODY THAT HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON IT, UH, FOR THE CLOSEOUT, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY.

THEN WE'LL COME HERE.

WE'RE COMING WITH 2000 TO DISCUSS.

YES, YES, YES, YES, YEAH.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL START DOWN.

NO, SIR.

I DON'T HAVE ANY APPOINTMENTS FOR YOU TO ME.

I HAVE SO MUCH HAVE TURNED INTO FORM THING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

BY THE POLICE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD, I'D LIKE TO APPOINT MR. CHARLES BLOOMBERG.

HE'S BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY BOSTON.

SHE SUPPORTING

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THE CHIEF OF POLICE IN THEIR ACTIVITY.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AND FOR ONE OF THE APPOINTMENTS THAT APPEARANCE COMMISSION, I'D LIKE TO APPOINT A MS. BETTY SIMON.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

MR. FREE, SIR.

NO, SIR.

NO, SIR.

HEY KID, WHAT ELSE CAN WE SAY? MISCELLANEOUS, MR. MISCELLANEOUS TONIGHT.

I'M JUST FREE.

I HAVE ONE, BUT FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR FIRE CHIEF OR REPORT ON THE FIRE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, AT THE MAGNOLIA, WHICH RESTAURANT MAGNOLIA PLACE LOCATED ON OAKS ROAD USED TO BE THE NEW-BORN REST TIME FACILITY.

FIREMEN, FIREMEN ARE STILL ON THE SCENE.

UM, PROBABLY WILL BE ON SCENE FOR SEVERAL MORE HOURS.

IT APPEARS THAT, UM, FIRE STARTED.

IT WAS ABOUT SIX O'CLOCK TONIGHT ACTUALLY IS WHEN WE RECEIVED THE CALL, BUT THE FIRE STARTED IN, UH, ONE END OF THE EAST WING.

UM, THE FIREMEN WERE ABLE TO STOP THE FIRE BEFORE IT REACHED THE FIREWALL, WHICH, UM, UH, AND, BUT THERE'S EXTENSIVE FIRE DAMAGE TO THE END OF THE EAST WING.

UH, THERE WAS NO INJURIES.

UM, FORTUNATELY, UM, ALL THE MANAGEMENT HAD ALL OF THE, UH, OCCUPANTS OUT OF THE BUILDING AND ACCOUNTED FOR WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ARRIVED.

UH, SO WE COULD CONCENTRATE MAINLY ON, UH, EXTINGUISHING THE FIRE.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY ALL 56 OCCUPANTS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING RELOCATED.

WE HAVE BUILDING INSPECTORS AND FIRE INSPECTORS ON SITE NOW, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STAY IN THE FACILITY TONIGHT.

IN FACT, IT MAY BE SEVERAL DAYS BEFORE THEY CAN HAVE THE WING THAT WAS DAMAGED, UH, ISOLATED, UH, FROM THE ELECTRICITY.

AND THEY CAN ALLOW THE OCCUPANTS BACK IN THE BUILDING.

YES, SIR.

OH, TREY.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT 56 OCCUPANTS? THANK GOD AND NO INJURIES, NO INJURIES.

AND ONE OTHER THING I HAD, UH, THERE WAS A SMALL ARTICLE IN THE SUN JOURNAL THIS WEEK ABOUT OUR ESTEEM CITY MANAGER AND WHO RECEIVED HIS CREDENTIALS AS A, WHAT IS THE EXACT TERM? PRUDENTIAL CREDENTIAL SEDIMENT.

I WANT, I WANT, I WANNA, I WANT TO TALK JUST A MINUTE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A REALLY GREAT THING, BUT WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT THE INTERNATIONAL INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION AND INTERNATIONAL CITY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION INTERNATIONAL, NOT JUST IN THIS COUNTRY, AN INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION HAS STARTED A PROGRAM TO ISSUE THIS CREDENTIAL TO CITY MANAGERS WHO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AND WHO THEY CONSIDER TO BE THE TOP.

THEY HAVE REACHED THE TOP LEVELS AND THEIR ABILITIES AND THEIR EXPERIENCE, ET CETERA.

THE TOTAL IN INTERNATIONALLY IS LESS THAN 300.

SO WHEN YOU THINK OF HOW MANY TOWNS AND CITIES THERE IN THIS COUNTRY AND INTERNATIONALLY WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM AND OUR CITY MANAGER IS ONE OF THE FIRST GROUP TO RECEIVE THIS HONOR.

AND IT'S EITHER 256 OR TWO HUNDRED, TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX, OR MAYBE 296, BUT IT'S LESS THAN 300 IN THE WORLD WHO HAVE RECEIVED THIS HONOR.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

AND I HAVE SAID SO MANY TIMES THAT THE GOOD THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN NEWBURN, COME FROM A BASIC PHILOSOPHY OF HIRING THE BEST PEOPLE WE CAN AND PAYING THEM A LIVING WAGE.

SO WE CAN KEEP THEM TO SEE A JOB THROUGH, INSTEAD OF HAVING A REVOLVING DOOR, GIVING THEM THE MISSION AND THEN LEAVING THEM ALONE AND LET THEM DO THEIR JOB.

JUST CHECK WITH THEM ONCE IN A WHILE, MAKE SURE IT'S GOING THE WAY WE PLANNED.

BUT, UH, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HIRING A GOOD MAN.

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AND WHAT, 1985 OR 86, 86, 19 86, 86.

IT WAS 1986.

I STARTED WORKING AT JANNEY.

WE HIRED HIM IN 1986 AND HE'S BEEN HERE EVER SINCE.

AND WHEN YOU THINK BACK TO WHAT NEW-BORN WAS THEN AND WHAT IT'S BECOME, AND I REMEMBER ONE OF THE LAST TIMES I SHOT VIDEOTAPE FOR A TELEVISION STATION TO DO A STORY IN NEWBURN.

I SET UP THE CAMERA IN FRONT OF THE RIGHT SIDE AND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL.