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CHAIR.

ANTHEM CAME AS LATE AS BROTHER TRIED TO HIDE.

SO GOD ASKED HIM, WHERE WAS HE? HE, HE ASKED HIM, AM I MY BROTHER'S KEEPER? THAT IS PRAY FOR THE PRECIOUS NAME OF JESUS.

IS HE BOBBY FOR YOU? WHEN THE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVING KINDNESS AND TENDER MERCY AND THE PARTY, WE THOUGHT YOU HAVING A FATHER FOR THIS ORGANIZATION, IT IS ORGANIZATION HAVING A FATHER CAUSE IT'S MADE UP OF PEOPLE THAT SUPPOSED TO HAVE LOVED GOD AND BOBBY, THANK YOU TONIGHT YESTERDAY, BLESSED THEM, ESPECIALLY ON THE FATHER AND THE FATHER'S DAY GO FORTH.

THEN I'M THE BUSINESS THAT IS DECENT IN AN ORDER AND THE FATHER, THEY FIND ANY REASON TO DISAGREE AND THE FATHER AND THE PARTY HELPED HIM TO GET ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW.

AND THE FATHER ARTISTS IS OUT HERE HAVING THE FATHER, TOUCH THEM AND BLESSED THEM IN A SPECIAL WAY.

AND FOR THE ISSUE ON THE FATHER, LET'S LOOK DOWN UPON US HAVING A FATHER, REALIZING THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR SISTERS AND BROTHERS, HAVING THE FATHER AND THE FATHER GUIDE THEM, HELPING THE FATHER IN A SPECIAL WAY IN A BOTTLE.

WE ASKED SOME SPECIAL BLESSING FOR THE LAND AND COUNTRY, ALL OF US SEE, AND EVERYBODY UP IN THE FATHER, LORD IS TOUCHING, ESPECIALLY IN THE FATHER.

HE DOESN'T HAD A FATHER THAT THE ENEMY IS ON, ON EVERY HAND, HAVING THE FATHER IT'S UP TO HIM, THE FATHER TO THAT'S KEEPING HIM ON OUR FEET.

WE THANK YOU THAT NOW THEY IN THE FATHER, THE SON, THE BLESSED HOLY GHOST.

AMEN.

THANK YOU.

JESUS.

YOU PLEASURE.

ALL RIGHT.

FIRST THING TO HAVE NIGHT IS THE HEAD OF THE LOWER NEUSE RIVER KEEPER.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A COUPLE MINUTES TO BE HERE.

MY NAME'S LARRY BALDWIN.

I AM THE, UH, NEW, LOWER NEUSE RIVERKEEPER.

UH, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT EIGHT WEEKS.

UM, BASICALLY JUST WANTED TO COME IN AND SAY HELLO AND, UM, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BRIEF IDEA OF MY PHILOSOPHY.

UM, BASICALLY I HAVE TWO THINGS THAT I DO WHEN I CONSIDER AN ISSUE WITH THE RIVER.

ONE IS TO ASK THE QUESTION, IS IT GOOD FOR THE RIVER? THE OTHER IS TO LOOK AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE, THE RIVER WAS NOT INHERITED FROM OUR PARENTS.

IT IS ON LOAN TO US, FROM OUR CHILDREN.

SO BASICALLY I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT FROM THE CITY OF NEWBURN, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE, BUT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THERE IN, UH, HELPING, NOT JUST MYSELF AS THE RIVERKEEPER, BUT THE NEUSE RIVER FOUNDATION, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO MANY, MANY YEARS OF WORKING WITH YOU ON, UH, KEEPING THE RIVER CLEAN, MAKING IT CLEANER.

AND, UH, IT IS A VERY BIG PART OF NEWBURN AND THE WATERSHED IN GENERAL.

SO JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME STAND HERE AND SAY HELLO FOR A FEW MINUTES.

I DID BRING SOME BRAND NEW, NEW FOUNDATION BROCHURES, SO WE'LL LEAVE THEM HERE IF THAT'S OKAY.

AND SOME BUSINESS CARDS ACTUALLY THE RIVER RIGHT NOW IS, IS PRETTY GOOD.

UM, IT'S KIND OF AN ODD SITUATION.

IT'S MAINLY TO A LARGE DEGREE BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER OVER THE SUMMER, THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF RAIN.

SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH THE NEUSE RIVER IS WHAT WE CALL NON-POINT SOURCE POLLUTION, WHICH IS BASICALLY RUNOFF, AGRICULTURAL, UH, COMMERCIAL, EVEN RESIDENTIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOO MUCH FERTILIZER ON.

SO WITHOUT THAT RAIN CONSTANTLY WASHING THOSE NUTRIENTS INTO THE RIVER, UM, I THINK YOU PROBABLY WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE NEAR THE FISH KILLS THIS YEAR THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN THE PAST.

UM, A LOT OF MY FOCUS WILL BE ON EDUCATION, UM, SPENDING A GOOD BIT OF TIME ALREADY IN SOME LOCAL SCHOOLS TALKING WITH THE KIDS.

LIKE THEY, WE ARE, WE'RE KIND OF BORROWING THE RIVER FROM THEM.

SO EDUCATION, PUBLIC AWARENESS, AND, UH, IF NEED BE GO AFTER THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DOING THINGS THE WAY THEY SHOULD.

SO, YEAH.

OKAY.

WHAT DOES THE LIMITS OF THE LOWER NEWS? WHERE DOES THE LOWER NEUSE BEGIN AND WHERE DOES THE UPPER NEWS,

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YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UM, BECAUSE IT, IN FACT THERE ARE QUITE A BIT OF, UH, COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE TWO OF US.

UM, WE BREAK IT OFF ROUGHLY AT 150 MILES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S NOT REALLY A LINE IN THE SAND, SO TO SPEAK, IS THAT KINSTON OR NORTH OF WELL ACTUALLY BE NORTH OF KINGSTON.

AND I'M NOT REAL GOOD WITH MY GEOGRAPHY HERE YET OF THE AREA.

SO YOU HAVE TO, EXCUSE ME, NOT KNOWING EXACTLY WHERE IT IS AND WHERE'S THE LOW, THE BOTTOM OF THE LOWER NEWS, RIGHT AFTER, RIGHT AFTER THE NEUSE RIVER MARKER, MARKER.

NUMBER ONE AT THE SOUND AND, UH, HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY JUST YESTERDAY FINALLY MADE IT TO THE SOUND ON THE RIVER.

SO IT'S A, IT'S AN INCREDIBLE BODY OF WATER.

SO I ACTUALLY FEEL PRIVILEGED TO BE HERE, TO BE ABLE TO HELP KEEP IT UP.

LET ME SAY, UH, YOU BE, PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED AT HOW MUCH WE, AND ESPECIALLY MYSELF, THE PENS ON THE RIVERKEEPERS ONCE HAD.

I MEAN, NOW THAT MANTLE HAS BEEN LAID ON YOU BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE REALLY, ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU THINK HE HAD, HE IS THE FIRST LEVEL OF DEFENSE.

THE, YOU GUYS ARE QUIET.

THINGS MUST BE GOING PRETTY STUFFS.

RIGHT.

AND I REALLY, YOU KNOW, IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR RICK AND THE KNEES RIVER FOUNDATION AND OTHER PEOPLE, UH, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, MY SPIKES, WOULD'VE JUST GONE ALONG THE THANKS.

I MEAN, WHOEVER I NOW REALIZE, LIKE I SAID, WHEN I BECAME MAYOR THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST RUN OFF FROM A PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS THE SAME, IT WENT SOMEWHERE AND IT WAS WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GET, YOU KNOW? WELL, I DON'T, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT THE, IT GOES DOWN THE STORM DRAIN AND IT GOES TO THE TREATMENT PLAN AND IT DOESN'T, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A HIGH, BUT REALLY Y'ALL, HAVEN'T DONE A GREAT JOB AND I KNOW YOU KEEP IT UP AND I'LL TELL YOU, RICK HAS DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB.

I WAS TELLING SOMEBODY THE OTHER DAY THAT, UH, I BELIEVE IF HE FELL OVERBOARD AND THESE RIVER THAT THE RAILROAD WOULD REFUSE THE DROWNING AND THEN RICK SET SOME VERY GOOD STANDARDS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WON'T SAY THAT I'M, I'M APPROACHING THINGS THE SAME WAY THAT RICK DID BECAUSE YOU KNOW, RICK WAS RICK ON ME.

SO THERE YOU GO.

BUT I THINK, UH, I THINK THAT THE MAIN, THE MAIN COMMON THREAD IS THE PASSION FOR THE RIVER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE THE TIME.

WELL, WHAT THIS BROCHURE BEFORE YOU GOT HERE, UM, CONNIE COMBINATION OF BOTH, WE WENT ON TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS.

THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING HIM THAT I SEEN A PHOTOGRAPH OF STEVE THAT'S THE SAME PHOTOGRAPH I SAW HIM.

I WAS WONDERING, NOT, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

I'M NOT SURE WHO ALL WAS INVOLVED WITH THE PRODUCTION.

LARRY, YOU SAY YOU'VE BEEN TO MARKET NUMBER ONE AT THE MOUTH OF THE NEWS.

IF YOU HANG A LEFT THERE, BE VERY CAREFUL FOLLOW YOUR MARKS BECAUSE YOU WROTE A GRAPH.

BUT, WELL, I THINK GOING, GOING UP RIVER, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING BECAUSE I HAVE NOTICED THE NUISANCE IS VERY SHALLOW IN PLACES.

SO ALL SHOWS LEAD YOU UP TO, WELL, ACTUALLY THE, UH, THE RIVERKEEPER BOAT, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL FIND ME OUT IN THE SOUND TOO MUCH.

IT'S NOT REALLY THE MOST STABLE CRAFT FOR, UH, FOR THOSE KINDS OF WATERS.

SO WE APPRECIATE IT.

I'M SURE YOU WILL LET US KNOW IF YOU SAY ANYTHING.

I CERTAINLY WILL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE ADMITTING NUMBER FOUR TONIGHT BECAUSE DAVID IS OUT OF TOWN.

SO THE FIFTH THING IS HASN'T MEDICATION REPORT, YOUR FRIEND WHO NO INTRODUCTION, BUT WE'LL ASK HIM TO GET ONE ANYWAY, JUST IN CASE THERE'S SOMEBODY WATCHING CHANNEL 10.

THAT IS THEIR FIRST NIGHT.

MR. , I'M SORRY.

I MISSED YOU LAST MONTH AND APPRECIATE MY KV.

UM, I PROVIDED A COPY OF MY NAME IS MIKE BARNETT, FOURTH, MONDAY, FOURTH, TUESDAY.

UM, I'VE GIVEN YOU A COPY OF MY NOTES.

UM, WE HAVE COMPLETED IN THE PROGRAM 28 UNITS.

UH, WE HAVE TWO UNITS THAT ARE NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE FIVE UNITS THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH READY TO PROCEED.

WE'D HOPEFULLY BE MEETING WITH THOSE FOLKS THIS MONTH AND GETTING MOST OF THOSE, UM, AT LEAST MOVING FORWARD STRONGLY OR, OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER, WE HAVE TWO UNITS THAT WE'VE, UH, BEEN CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN AWARDED, AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE OWNERS TO PROVIDE US A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEFORE WE CAN PROCEED AND QUALIFY THOSE FOLKS.

WE RECEIVED BIDS ON THREE UNITS TODAY.

THIS AFTERNOON, YOU WILL HAVE THOSE IN THE RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD, I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS OR SO, UH, TWO ACQUISITIONS

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THAT WE HAVE IN PROCESS, THEY ACT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE GIVEN THEM THE, THE OFFERS AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, UH, ACCEPTING THOSE OFFERS.

SO THEY ARE REALLY GETTING READY TO GET THROUGH.

UH, WE HAVE ONE UNIT THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER FOR REBID.

IT WAS A DIFFICULT STRUCTURE.

AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT HERE BEFORE.

UH, AND THEN THERE ARE TWO UNITS THAT ARE PRIORITIES, 40 AND 41 THAT ARE WE'RE HOLDING IS CONTINGENCY UNITS.

JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO GET THROUGH WITH THE UNITS AHEAD OF US.

DOES EVERYBODY SEEM TO BE PRETTY WELL SATISFIED SO FAR A COUPLE WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, UH, ALL SEEM TO BE SATISFIED.

A COUPLE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF LOOSE ENDS AND WE STILL NEED TO TIE UP ON A COUPLE OF UNITS.

UM, SOME THINGS WE'RE HAVING TO GO BACK ON AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK HERE, A LITTLE MORE WORK THERE, BUT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE JUSTIFIED.

AND I, AND I THINK WE'D GET THOSE TAKEN CARE OF.

DO YOU MEAN, DID YOU AND THE HOMEOWNERS ON AGREEMENT, YOU JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN, THEY'RE NOT DONE YET OR Y'ALL WE, WE, WE, WE, WE CAME TO A MATTER OF FACT, UM, LAST FRIDAY AFTERNOON, THE CONTRACTOR WAS WITH ME AND WE VISITED THOSE HOMES, UM, TAUGHT WITH THOSE FOLKS AND ALL CAME TO AGREEMENT ON WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.

AND NOW IT'S A MATTER OF ME PROCESSING THE PAPERWORK, UH, AND HOPEFULLY GET TO WORK ON THOSE LITTLE ROUGH ENDS.

TIE-INS, UH, OVER DECEMBER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

EXCELLENT.

WE HAVE HIS LITERAL REPORT AND THE MAN WHO NEEDED ALSO MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS FRANK PALUMBO, UH, WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF SANITATION AND A REPORT TO YOU TODAY THAT, UH, DURING THIS, UH, REPORTING PERIOD, THERE WAS ONE LETTER ISSUED FOR LITTERING.

ONE WARNING WAS GIVEN FOUR CITATIONS WERE ISSUED AND SIX CASES ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION.

UM, ANECDOTALLY, UH, WE KNOW OF ONE CASE THAT WENT TO TRIAL ON LITTERING.

HE WAS A MINOR LITTERING CASE AND IT WAS A $250 FINE PLUS PROBATION AND A, UM, AND COMMUNITY SERVICE.

SO THE COURTS ARE TAKING THESE LITTLE CHARGES VERY SERIOUSLY, UH, 24 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE.

YEAH.

AND THAT WAS THAT.

WHAT WAS THIS IN JUST SOME OF THE ROUND NUMBERS? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WASN'T HE DIDN'T, I MEAN, THE PERSON DIDN'T THROW A BIG BOX OF GARBAGE.

IT WAS JUST LIKE THROWING A PIECE OF PAPER ON THE GROUND.

WHY DID IT GO AS FAR AS OF COURSE, PLED GUILTY AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HE HAD A COURT DATE PLED GUILTY, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY, THE JUDGE GAVE HIM.

SO THE JUDGE, THE COURTS ARE TAKING IT VERY SERIOUSLY ON THE REVIEW, WHICH RUNS ONCE IT'S BEEN REPORTED TO YOU, OR YES.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO ACTUALLY, UH, DUMPED THE TRASH.

AND SO WE'D BE LOOKING FOR SOME WAY TO DETERMINE WHO ACTUALLY, UH, DEPOSITED THE TRASH, BUT, UH, WE'VE NOTICED THAT THERE'S A VAST IMPROVEMENT OVER THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE THROWING TRASH AND LITTERING GENERALLY.

UH IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S GETTING, GETTING BETTER.

WE FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT.

AND, UH, OFFICERS ARE ACTIVE AND THEY, THEY LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A BURDEN FOR THEM.

IT'S, IT'S A GOOD WAY TO, TO MAKE A POINT.

AND ALSO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, THROUGH SOME LITTERING CASES TO MAKE OTHER CHARGES WE'VE ISSUED SOME WE'VE DISCOVERED PEOPLE WHO HAVE ARREST WARRANTS OUT FOR THEM.

UH, WE'VE MADE SOME DRUG CASES, SO IT'S, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A INTRODUCTORY CHARGE, SO TO SPEAK, HI, HOW YOU DOING? YOU'VE BEEN LITTERING.

OH, BY THE WAY, YOU'RE WANTING, YOU KNOW, FELONY, UH, TRADE WOULDN'T YOU EXPECT DURING THE ELEVATOR SHOP AT THE DISTRICT LIMITED PICKUP.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO, I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT MR. BOUNDARY, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT, UM, FOR THE HOLIDAY TASKFORCE THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, IN DEPLOYED IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

UH, WE'LL HAVE VISIBLE PATROLS WHERE THERE'S BE UNIFORMED OFFICERS IN MARKED CARS.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE PLAIN CLOTHES OFFICERS AND WE'LL BE USING NONDESCRIPT VEHICLES, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF A PLAIN KIND OF A VEHICLE, WHITE FANS, UH, YOU KNOW, TRUCKS, UH, ANY VEHICLE THAT WOULD BE NONDESCRIPT.

AND THE IDEA IS TO, UH, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO JUST BE LOOKING FOR POLICE, CARS AND UNIFORMS. WE WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ANYBODY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

SO JUST CAUSE YOU DON'T SEE A POLICE CAR DOESN'T MEAN IT'S SAFE TO COMMIT A CRIME, WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT.

SO, UH, IN AS DIRECTOR YOUR QUESTION, UM, I'M REALLY HOPING THAT THERE'S NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF LITTERING THIS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE SHOPPING PEOPLE HOPEFULLY WILL TAKE THEIR TRASH HOME WITH THEM AND, YOU KNOW, DISPOSE OF IT IN AN INAPPROPRIATE WAY.

YES.

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AND THE THING THAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT, ESPECIALLY IN THE MALLS AND EVERYTHING, IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY TO BRING PACKAGES BACK TO THEIR CARS AND LEAVE THEM IN THE CARS AND THEN GO BACK AND DO SOME MORE SHOPPING.

THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING TO DO.

THE TRUNK IS GOOD.

THE BACKSEAT IS BAD BECAUSE YOU KIND OF INVITING SOMEBODY TO STEAL YOUR STUFF WHEN YOU LEAVE IT BACK THERE LIKE THAT.

SO WE'D RECOMMENDED PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA KIND OF FERRY GIFTS BACK AND FORTH TO THEIR CARS SHOULD USE THE TRUNK AND NOT THE BACKSEAT OF THE CAR.

YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE I SPENT, I WOULD SAY ON THE ORDER OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HOURS SITTING IN THE CAR, BECAUSE MY WIFE SHOPS , BUT ONE THING THAT YOU CAN LEARN OTHER THAN NADELMANN, THOSE IN IS, UH, YOU CAN LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND YOU SEE THINGS HAPPEN.

AND JUST EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'VE SEEN DURING THE CHRISTMAS SEASON, ALL OF THEM ONCE AND NOT IN NEWMAN, BUT IN OTHER TIMES, BUT PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE WALKING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT, LOOKING DOWN AT THE CARS AND YOU JUST SEE IT HAPPEN AND YOU CAN'T BELIEVE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE EASILY POPPED THE IN AND GET OUT OF WHATEVER.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS ABSOLUTELY.

AND ALSO I LIKED IT TO TELL YOU THE PASS ON TO YOU ALL THAT IS OBVIOUS WHEN YOU GO TO SOMEBODY WHO'S OUT OF THE CITIES IN RSA, HE IS POINTING HER NOW.

AND I POINT THAT OUT AND WALK DOWN THE STREET, DOING A GREAT JOB.

EVERYBODY KEEPS THE WALL OF THE BANK OF ALL THAT FOR A WHILE NOW.

OKAY.

SHOULD I TAKE MY PEN OUT? BUT I GIULIANI WAS ON TV A FEW WEEKS AGO, SURELY AND NO JULIAN HIGH BY ANY STRETCH OF IMAGINATION.

BUT I WAS JUST THE TICKET THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE SAID, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE HAD DONE IN NEW YORK, WHEN HE TOOK OVER NEW YORK SORT OF THING.

HE SAID, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID WAS TRY TO CLEAN THE PLACE UP, GET TRASH OFF THE STREETS AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.

HE SAID, BECAUSE I BELIEVE AS A PROSECUTOR, HE MAN, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING AND INVOLVED A LOT ON THE CRIMINAL REALM, HE SAID THAT ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO DO IS CLEAN UP YOUR CITY PHYSICALLY BECAUSE GREED PEOPLE BEGINNING TO AGE IN THERE, OH, IT'S EASY TO LITTER AND IT'S EASY TO RUN THE STOPLIGHT.

THEN IT'S EASY JUST TO FUDGE HERE AT MAYER.

AND I THOUGHT THAT HOW LUCKY WE WERE IN EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA, ONCE AGAIN, NOT BECAUSE OF KNOWING, BECAUSE WE READ IT SOMEWHERE.

BUT THE CALLS THAT THOSE OF US ON THIS BOARD AND SO FORTH, AND THE OTHER FOLKS IN THE CITY TOOK CHARGE OF IT REALIZED THAT IT WAS MUCH MORE THAN TRASH.

IT HAD TO DO WITH JUST THE WAY A LOT SPREAD OUT.

IT JUST MAKES THINGS SO MUCH EASIER.

AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, HE CAN DO IT IN NEW YORK.

SURELY WE CAN DO A FAMILY IN OUR HOSPITAL.

WE CAN PASS ALL THE TIME.

WELL, THE INTERESTING PART ABOUT MAYOR GIULIANI'S APPROACH TO NEW YORK CITY WAS THE EMPHASIS ON MINOR CRIMES PRODUCED MUCH THE SAME RESULT AS WE'VE SEEN IN THE LITTER.

FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY WORKED ON THE TURNSTILE JUMPERS IN THE FIRST 30 DAYS, THEY ARRESTED SOMETHING LIKE 9,000 FELONS WHO WOULD NORMALLY HAVE JUST BEEN, LET GO UNLESS THEY RAN AWAY.

BUT WHEN THEY STARTED ENFORCING THAT, THEY WIND UP WITH ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WITH WARRANTS OUT ON THEM.

AND SO IT'S LIKE A IT'S, IT'S A, ANOTHER, IT'S A GATEWAY KIND OF THING.

YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU WORK ON THE MINOR THINGS THAT USUALLY LEAD.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE, THE BAD GUYS ARE LITTERING AND THEY'RE JUMPING TURNSTILES AND YOU'RE RUNNING STOP SIGNS AND THEY'RE DOING ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO IT'S A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR POLICE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE.

AND THEN THROUGH INVESTIGATIVE TECHNIQUES DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF OPPRESSION YOU'RE DEALING WITH.

SO IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE TOOL BUT IF THEY JUMP THEM, YOU'LL GET THEM.

WE'RE GOOD.

I'M ABSOLUTE FIRST TIME STYLE AGAINST JUMPS.

WE GOT THEM.

AND JUST FOR MR. RAINER FOR NOISE ORDINANCES.

YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

BECAUSE I REALLY NOTICE A DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS IT USED TO BE.

IN FACT, A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW IT'S MAKING A DIFFERENCE OR I COULD DO OUR RECORDER HERE AND A RECORDER ONLY, YOU DON'T HAVE A MICROPHONE.

YOU CAN'T SPEAK DURING THIS LEG IF YOU'D LIKE, AND I'LL TAKE THE NOTE FOR YOU.

AND HANNAH WAS, SHE POINTED OUT THAT SHE DID, SHE HAD TO BABYSIT.

PEOPLE ARE NOT, DON'T SEEM TO BE RUNNING THE LIGHTS LIKE THEY USED TO IS, IS BLAKELY

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INSIGHTFUL.

AND AGAIN, I DO SEE THAT WHEN I MOVED BACK, I WOULDN'T SAY IS HAPPENING.

NEVER BRUISE, JUST NOT CRACKING.

NOW.

THAT'S THE WAY YOU REACH IT.

NEXT THING WE HAVE, LET'S SEE, PROBABLY HERE TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO CLOSE A PORTION OF DALE STREET.

MR. MEADOWS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO THIS, UH, BOARD APPROVED CALLING THE PUBLIC HEARING? IT'S BEEN ABOUT A MONTH AGO NOW AND THE NECESSARY ADVERTISING POSTINGS WERE, WERE MADE TO, UH, CONSIDER CLOSING PORTION OF BAIL STREET BETWEEN FLORIDA AVENUE AND SOUTH CAROLINA AVENUE.

IT'S A PORTION OF STREET HAS NEVER BEEN APPROVED.

UH, IT IS ONE THAT, UH, DOES NOT LIMIT INGRESS AND EGRESS TO ANY, ANY PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY IT.

SO, UH, IF IT'S FOR CHOOSES TO CLOSE IT, UH, WE DON'T SEE, UH, WHERE IT WOULD, UH, CREATE ANY PROBLEMS. AS FAR AS MOVING TRAFFIC.

I DON'T FORESEE ANY NEED OF EVER OPENING THE STREET, BUT IN THE ORDINANCE WE HAVE RESERVED AN EASEMENT IN CASE WE NEED TO EXTEND MORE AND SEWER SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, WE, AS FAR AS STAFF IS CONCERNED, WE SEE NO PROBLEM WITH THE CLOSING OF STREET OVER HERE.

YEAH.

I WAS WAITING TO SEE IF ANYBODY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IF NOT COME.

YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

OKAY.

NEXT THING WE HAVE IS A CONSENT AGENDA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

OKAY.

NO, SIR.

I DON'T HAVE ANY APPOINTMENTS TONIGHT.

IT'S LATE.

NO SIR.

NOTHING RECEIVING, SIR.

THAT'S ABOUT MR. RANKIN.

NO, SIR.

NO, SIR.

YES, SIR.

UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I'D LIKE TO WISH ALL THE CITIZENS OF NEW BERN, A HAPPY AND BOUNTIFUL THANKSGIVING, ESPECIALLY MS. LEE, MR. ONE QUICK THING THAT CAME TO ME THAT LARRY AND THE CHIEF MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CITY BUSINESS, EXCEPT THAT THEY'VE JUST FOUND IT FASCINATING.

UH, LARRY AND I PASSED EACH OTHER ON THE TRENT RIVERS DOWN THE BOATS.

HE DIDN'T KNOW WHO I WAS, BUT I KNEW WHO HE WAS.

AND I WENT UP INTO BRICE'S CREEK AND SUBSTANTIALLY BEYOND THAT, THE BURNER AREA BEYOND THE WILDLIFE LANDING, I SAW SOMETHING THAT WAS AN ODD SHADE OF GREEN WATER LEVEL UP NEAR ONE OF THE BANKS.

SO I'VE CUT THE ENGINE AND DRIFTED OVER AND TALK ABOUT LITTER AND THE RIVER AND EVERYTHING.

IT WAS A TANGLE OF BRIGHT AND GREEN RIBBON.

AND ON THE ENDS OF EACH ONE WAS THE REMAINS OF A BALLOON.

IT WAS WHAT WAS LEFT OF A BIG BUNDLE OF HELIUM BALLOONS THAT HAD DRIFTED IN THERE FROM SOMEWHERE AND WOUND UP IN THE RIVER.

AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING THAT EVEN UP THERE BEYOND THE LAST HOUSE WHERE YOU CAN USUALLY CUT THE ENGINE OFF AND DRIFT, AND IF YOU DON'T SEE THEM STYROFOAM HAMBURGER CUP, OR SOMETHING, OR FISHERMEN THROUGH OVERBOARD, IT'S, IT'S SO CLEAN THAT THERE AND THEN FIND OUT IF THEY EVER JUST WANTED TO GET A PHOTO OF IT.

DIDN'T HAVE MY CAMERA WITH ME, BUT I'LL BE BACK AT THE THANKSGIVING.

IT'S STILL THERE.

THAT'S ALL MR. MAYOR, MR. RAY CRUZ.

AND I TELL YOU WHAT

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I REALLY LIKE THAT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

HOWEVER, I CAME FROM A VERY SHORT LAB FAMILY.

MY GRANDDAD WAS 28.

MY DAD WAS 35 AND 58.

AND THAT WHOLE, WE CALL IT I GOT ONE SLIDE MISCELLANEOUS.

UH, AND THAT IS THAT, UH, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY IN TOWN IS DOING A REAL GOOD JOB AS CITIZENS.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS NONE OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE NIGHT TO BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE COOPERATION OF THE CITIZENS.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE CAN WRITE ALL THE TICKETS.

THEY WON'T DO EVERYTHING THEY WANT.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS AND THAT, BUT IF PEOPLE DON'T BUY INTO IT, IT WON'T ADD.

AND I LIKED IT, BLACK PEOPLE IN TOWN, THEY MADE IT, THEY THINGS, IT TRULY IS.

YOU ALL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, BUT YOU'VE DONE IT.

YOU APPRECIATE THE ATTORNEY CITY MANAGER.

HE WOULD COME TO ITEM 17 AGAIN, I GUESS.