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CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND WE'LL HAVE OPEN PLAN.

MY BISHOP CURTIS BROWN HIGHWAYS AND HEDGES CHURCH.

IF HE'S HERE, HERE WITH YOU, OH FIVE.

NOW WE'VE GONE BEYOND THAT.

COME BEFORE ALMOST THE FINAL LIEN INDEPENDENTLY, THE WORD, WHICH PROBABLY HAD THE SPECIAL BLESSING FOR THIS MEETING TONIGHT, FATHER, WE HAVE TO HAVE A BLESSED MAN AND ALL THE, ALL THOSE FILES WITH THE KNIFE DID, THEY MAY MAKE A DECISION THAT'S GOING TO SERVE ALL, BUT AS FAR AS STRIPPING AWAY THE WEEK AND BUILD THEM UP WHERE THEY'RE TORN DOWN.

WHAT'S PART OF LET THEM REALIZE THAT WE ALL ARE BROTHERS, SISTERS IN CHRIST.

WE'LL FIND THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE CONCERNED WITH ONE ANOTHER.

WE HAVE TO NEED ANOTHER BLESSING IN JESUS' NAME, REFRAME CALMED IT DOWN.

THE MAN OKAY.

FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS ONLY ONCE A MONTH FUNDS MASTER REQUEST AND PETITIONS OF CITIZENS.

SOMEBODY NEEDS AIR IN THE LAUNDRY AND THEY CAN STEP HOLDING THE STATE CAN NAME RESIDENCE.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO LADIES AND GRACE, MOVE ON TO NUMBER FOUR, ET CETERA, RESOLUTION HONORING JAMES C MORRISSEY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE RESOLUTION AND THAT'S SOMEBODY ELSE WANTING TO READ IT, ESPECIALLY, UH, WHEREAS JAMES C DEL LAMAR SENIOR JOE JOE WAS A LONG TIME COMMUNITY LATER, WHEREAS HE WAS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE ON THE HISTORY AND DEVELOPMENT OF JAMES CITY.

WHEREAS JAMES DEL MAR SENIOR WAS A PAST CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR THE JAMES CITY HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

AND WHEREAS HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE MOUNT SHALLOW MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH AND OFFICIAL OF THE EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA BAPTIST ASSOCIATION, THE CHARTER MEMBER OF THE JAMES CITY, HISTORICAL SOCIETY, AN ACTIVE DEMOCRAT AND THE FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE CRAVEN COUNTY VOTERS LEAGUE.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT, HIS ARM ON THE NEWMAN BOARD OF ALL WOMEN THAT WE GO ON RECORD AS EXPRESSING PROFOUND AND READ AND READ, AND THEN CONVEYED MR. JAMES C DEL MAR SEEING HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS AS EVIDENCE OF OUR SANFORD.

I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE NEED DISCUSSION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I WAS WONDERING, THAT'S A GREAT, I'M GLAD THAT HE THOUGHT OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED HERE TO ME, THINGS THAT HE WAS TO ME, A MOTIVATION FOR MANY YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS, I THINK THIS IS ONLY FITTING VERY ACTIVE IN EVERY FACET, CIVIC ACTIVITIES.

JOJO.

AND THIS IS JUST I'LL GET THIS RICE.

OH YES, YES, YES.

THE NEXT THING TO CONSIDER IS A CONSENT AGENDA.

NUMBER SIX HAS BEEN SCRATCHED UP.

HAS THAT BEEN ELIMINATED COMPLETELY FROM DISCUSSION TO COME OUT OF THERE? UM, THE NEXT WORK SESSION IT'S NOT PREPARED YET.

I'M NOT, WE'RE NOT THROUGH WITH IT.

SO IT MAY COME UP AND THE GENDER BEING APPROVED WITH THE ELIMINATION OF

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ANY DISCUSSION.

UM, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

OKAY.

THIS IS MOVING SO FAST.

THAT WORRIES ME.

THE NEXT THING WE HAVE ON HERE IS A POINTLESS AND THERE'S ONE ON HERE FROM GEORGE TO ME AND I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S SMITH NOW AFRAID OF COLLINS.

HER TERM IS UP WITH HIM AND DONE REAL WELL ON IT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE HER ON IT IF POSSIBLE, EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY YET, BUT THAT'S A GOOD TO BE A NOMINATION.

WE CAN GET PAID, PAINTED THAT PERSON.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A SUGGESTION.

OKAY, WE'LL GO TO MISCELLANEOUS.

GOD, THIS HAS BEEN SO EASY.

YOU'RE NOT LAYING IN WAIT FOR THE TIME BOMB.

OKAY, BARBARA, SURELY I HAVE ONE BRIEF.

IT'S NOT AN ITEM.

IT'S FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES.

THE CRAVEN COUNTY COUNCIL ON THE WOMEN IS SPONSORING THE OBSERVANCE ON THE AUGUST 18TH AND 19TH.

UH, WHAT IS CALLED THE DIAMOND JUBILEE, THE 75TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE RATIFICATION OF THE 19TH AMENDMENT, WHICH GAVE US HALF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, WOMEN, THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

AND A LOT OF ACTIVITIES ARE PLANNED TO PARADE SATURDAY MORNING AND, UH, ALIVE AT FIVE ON FRIDAY FOR DOWNTOWN NEWBURGH, WITH A CANDLELIGHT VIGIL AT EIGHT 30.

AND, UH, SUSAN B. ANTHONY WILL BE THERE MAKING THE SPEECH AND, UH, EVEN PECKLERS WILL PROBABLY BE THERE TO GIVE HER A HARD TIME TOO.

IT'S A BIG OBSERVANCE.

BUT BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS STATEWIDE.

THE COUNCIL ON WOMEN WAS ENCOURAGING LOCAL COUNSELORS AND WOMEN'S GROUPS TO HAVE SUCH OBSERVANCES.

AND, UH, THEY JUST RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THAT THERE WOULD BE AN AWARD FOR THE GROUP THAT HAD THE BEST PROMOTION OF THIS DIAMOND YOU BELIEVE.

AND THE LADIES WERE NOTIFIED JUST A FEW DAYS AGO THAT THE CRAVEN COUNTY GROUP HAD WON THAT AWARD.

SO THEY ARE TRAVELING.

A GROUP OF THEM WILL TRAVEL TO RALEIGH TOMORROW AFTERNOON.

RALEIGH IS HAVING A STATE OBSERVANCE TOMORROW EVENING AND THE CRAVEN COUNTY COUNCIL AND WOMEN GROUP WILL RECEIVE AN AWARD FOR THE GOVERNOR FOR THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE ON CELEBRATING WOMEN'S RIGHT TO VOTE THE DIAMONDS YOU BELIEVE.

SO, UH, I CONGRATULATE FOR WOMEN FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE ON THAT AND INVITE EVERYONE TO COME DOWNTOWN FOR THE ALIVE AT FIVE ON THE 18TH AND FOR THE PARADE, THE MORNING OF THE 19TH AND ANY OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON, THEY HAVE DONE SOME DECORATING OF A FEW WINDOWS DOWNTOWN ALREADY, AND THERE WILL BE MORE SO THE LADIES ARE REALLY DOING A GOOD JOB AND THE AWARD TO BE PRESENTED TOMORROW BY THE GOVERNOR AS WELL-DESERVED WHEN I CONGRATULATE THEM FOR THEM.

THAT'S IT? I GUESS IT'S MINE.

AH, I'D LIKE TO GET INTO A WORK SESSION SHORTLY AND LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TWO YEARS FROM NOW.

WHEN WE RUN OUT OF THE CONTRACT WEST MOVEMENT ABOUT FIRE PROTECTION FOR THE CITY, SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AND DISCUSS, BUT THE LOAN MAKE MOVES TWO YEARS OF THE SHORT TIME BY MR. ASS WOULD THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY IN MY WAR AND THE ANNEXED AREAS, WHICH AFFECT SEVERAL OF US.

WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT GOOD PROTECTION.

OTHER THING I GOT YOU GET A MONTHLY REPORT THAT YOU COMPILE SOMETHING NOT THERE ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE HOME, HOMESICK EVERYBODY ELSE.

IT'S USUALLY WE HAVE A THING BACK HERE.

WELL, WHAT I'M THINKING IS THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT COMES TO ME, SECONDHAND THINGS GOING ON WITH THE BANK.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO SIT HERE AND SIT IN CITY HALL ALL DAY LONG AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER THAT DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB, BUT IF WE COULD GET COMPILED SOME SORT OF REPORT MONTHLY FROM THESE DEPARTMENTS TO LET US KNOW WHAT THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY.

IF SOMEONE ASKS US A QUESTION OUTSIDE, AT LEAST WE'LL BE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT

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WHAT IS GOING ON, BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE FOR ALL OF THEM SEPARATELY.

WELL, WE GET A THOUGHT IN THE PAST TO, UH, PROVIDING, ESPECIALLY BOARD MEMBERS CAN READ THE NEWSLETTER THING WITH HIGHLIGHTS OF EACH DEPARTMENT GOING ON, UH, ON A MONTHLY BASIS OR EVEN MORE OFTEN THAN THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT, BUT I'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

IF WE HAVE SOMETHING ONCE A MONTH AND EACH DEPARTMENT TALKED ABOUT THEIR HIGHLIGHTS, ANYTHING THAT'S CONTROVERSIAL, SO THAT WE'RE APPRISED OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY.

HE KINDA TAKING STUFF TO STAY OUT OF SEVEN WHEN SOMEBODY COMES UP AND ASKS ME ABOUT A PROBLEM, AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT SOMEBODY , YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE ASKED ABOUT YOUR STRANGE, IT MAY BE, BUT AT LEAST I'LL HAVE SOME KIND OF IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

WELL, YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING ALL THE TIME.

APPRECIATE IT.

SOME OF US COME DOWN PERIODICALLY AND AGGRAVATE MR. HARTMAN.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST IF WE DID GET BRIEFING LIKE THAT, IT MIGHT KEEP SOME OF US OUT OF HIS OFFICE AND GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO DO MORE OF THAT.

WELL, WE SHOULD THE GOVERNING BOARD TO SEE, WE SHOULDN'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION GOING ACROSS.

IF SOMEBODY CAN PUT IT IN JUST A FEW PAGES TO MAKE IT NO, NO CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS WANTS TO STAND ON UNION POINT.

WHAT KIND OF PROBLEMS ARE GOING ON THERE? WHAT'S THE, UH, THE PAYMENT WAS PROJECTED TO BE PAID.

HOW'S THE PAVING GOING ALONG? WHEN ARE THEY, THEY GOING TO NEXT MONTH? HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT I'LL PAY IS GOING TO PLACE THE PARK.

HOW THE ARREST, WHAT KIND OF PROBLEMS WILL THEY HAVE? SAME THING WITH THE FIRE.

I THINK WE CAN PROVIDE THEM.

I'D APPRECIATE.

I THINK WE CAN TRY IT, ESPECIALLY IF THE CONCERNS PICK CAN AWARD, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CITY WE HAVE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

YOU GOT ANYTHING? YEAH.

I GOT A COUPLE OF MATTRESSES BEING SO SHORT TIME.

UH, ONE THING I JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT AND THE CHIEF AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT IT AND I GUESS MOST OF THE NOTICE IN TERM OF, UH, KNOCK ON WOOD AND HOPEFULLY IT'S A COMBINATION OF THOSE AND TRYING TO DO RIGHT.

AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING A GOOD JOB AND LET THE COMPLIMENTS EACH PROBLEM THAT, UH, SECOND THING BILL AND THE DEPARTMENT HAS STARTED WORKING ON THE VALUE REPORT YET.

DO YOU MEAN THE CAPITAL PLAN? YES.

YES.

UH, WE'LL HAVE A, I IN FACT HAVE JUST GOTTEN A GOOD BIT OF THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AND ARE STARTING THE PROCESS OF IT'S BASICALLY A BUDGET.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TREATING IT LIKE A BUDGET.

WE'RE TAKING REQUESTS FIRST AND WE'RE GOING BACK AND WE'RE INTERVIEWING DEPARTMENTS TRYING TO FORMULATE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD.

THEN AT YOUR OCTOBER WORK SESSION, WE WILL SCHEDULE THAT TIME TO PRESENT THE FIRST PART OF THAT.

FIVE-YEAR PROJECTED BUDGET TO THE BOARD AND WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING A BUDGET SESSION AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH THE VARIOUS REQUESTS SO THAT YOU ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE YOUR FINAL DECISION.

AND THEN YOU WILL NEED TO ADOPT THAT PLAN JUST AS YOU DO A BUDGET, YOU WOULD ADOPT THAT AND OUR CAPITAL PLAN.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD FORMULATE OUR BUDGET ON NEXT YEAR, AS FAR AS CAMP.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THE LAST THING, OF COURSE, MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT THE ARTS COUNCIL HAS COMPLETED THE WALL AND CABLE PARK AND IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.

AND I'D LIKE TO THANK DANNY AND OTHER CITY STAFF.

WHOEVER'S BEEN WORKING ALONG WITH OUR COUNCIL AND COMPLETING A JOB CLOSE WOULD BE IT TO BE ONE COST.

AND IT WENT ABOVE THAT.

BUT THANK YOU FOR FINDING THE EXTRA MONEY.

THE OTHER THING IS OUR COUNCIL IS NOW PLANNING TO DEDICATE THE WALL AND TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY.

NOW, THE JOB, AND THE IDEA CAME UP IN A WAY TOO, TO HAVING SOME TYPE OF ACTIVITY JUST IN THAT HERE.

HOPEFULLY THE BOARD MEMBERS AGREED TO IT.

THE ART COUNCIL AND MYSELF MET, AND WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, ALONG WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEAD IS PLAYING THREE OR FOUR HITS OF THE SOFTBALL.

WE HAD DARK HOUSE.

EVERYBODY WAKES UP THE WHAT, WHAT IT IS THE MEMBERS OF THE,

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UH, CITY COUNCIL ALONG WITH, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS WOULD PLAY THE BOARD AT OUR COUNSELING.

SOME OF THEIR SELECTED MEMBERS KNOW THREE OR FOUR GAMES IN THE SOFTBALL GAME THAT CAME TO THE PARK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEDICATED ON THE WALL.

YEAH.

SO, AND, AND RIGHT NOW THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT EITHER THE LAST WEEKEND IN AUGUST OR SECOND WEEKEND IN SEPTEMBER.

SO JUST PUTTING YOUR NOTES.

SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME PREGNANCY.

I DON'T, SAY WEEKEND IN SEPTEMBER ANYWAY, JUST PUT YOU ON THOSE.

UH, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE ABOUT THE A COPY OF A LOAN MODIFICATION.

I RECOMMEND YOUR QUESTION.

QUESTION, QUESTION.

OMAR IS PRIVATELY OWNED.

YEARS AGO, I WOULD CALL LOCAL BANKS, BUSINESS PEOPLE.

THEY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF LOWER INTEREST RATES COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE.

THE LOANS ARE REQUIRED TO BE PAID IN FULL BY INVOLVED IN THAT PROGRAM, THROUGH THE CENTERS THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO SET UP.

ALL WE ALL, WE LIE WITH ME, ANYTHING IN PAYMENTS 5,000 PLUS ANDREW, 10%.

HOW MUCH IS THAT? UTILIZE.

OKAY.

WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? LOUIS PAYMENTS.

HOW MUCH IS NORMAL? RIGHT? IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN IS 8,500.

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THIS DOESN'T CHANGE PAYMENT DATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEY STILL HAVE TO PAY IT OFF AND THE COMMITTEE IS A COMMITTEE OF THE BANK.

WHAT DO WE NEED? WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM PERMISSION TO CHANGE.

I MOVE THAT.

WE ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THIS.

WE'VE GOT A SECOND ONE.

LET ME ASK YOU ONE QUESTION THERE, UH, IN SITUATION LIKE THIS, AND I ADDRESSED THIS TO THE CITY MANAGER AND ALSO THE ATTORNEY AT WAR.

WHEN SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE CITY WANTS TO, WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE STATUS OF SOMETHING THEY'RE DOING, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR ATTORNEY DO THAT? INSTEAD OF HAVING THE CITY ATTORNEY INTO THE ATTORNEY, DID THEY FED IT TO ME? WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I SAID, THE WAY MY SON, THIS, OUR ATTORNEY IS THE ONE THAT SAID THIS DAY, THE BANK.

AND THAT'S FINE.

NOW I HAVE CALLED THEM AND TOLD THEM, NO, IT NEEDED TO GO TO OMAR AND HE ASKED ME TO LOOK AT IT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT THEY NAILED IT.

10 TO STOP IT MORE TO SALUTE TO THAT.

THAT'S THE END.

I WANT TO ASK YOU NOW, IN REALITY, THOUGH, THAT'S JUST TAKEN UP A FRACTION.

WHAT WE LEGALLY HAVE LESS CAPACITY SEWER SYSTEM, WHERE THEY HAVE DONE THE SAME THING.

IF WE COULD JUST INCREASE THE FLOW OF THAT.

I THINK THEIR CONTENTION IS BECAUSE THE LINE IS GOING ACROSS THAT THIS IS A POTENTIAL .

THE STATE HAS ALREADY FOUND THAT THIS IS NOT THE CASE THAT DAY, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY ISSUED THE PERMIT AND WE'VE

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ALREADY HEARD MAIL.

LET ME JUST GET THIS STRAIGHT IN THERE.

CONTINUE.

JUST BECAUSE THE LINE DEALS ACROSS THE RIVER.

I HEAR MY ASS BOY CONTESTED CASE HEARING.

THIS IS I HEAR MY ASS CONTESTED CASE HEARING PROVIDED FOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT, AS ON MAY 31ST, 1990, BUT THE ISSUE FOR A MINUTE, NOT THE CITY OF NEWBURN FOR CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE SHORE EXTENSION SERVICE.

WHILE THE PROPERTY OF PLACE, THIS PERMIT WAS ISSUED WITHOUT REQUIRING AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT TO INQUIRE INTO MORE APPROPRIATE ALL THE TIME, WHICH WAS BETTER EFFECTS ARRIVING.

THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING ELSE SAME AROUND IN SURFACE WATER.

I SEEN THE TALKING ABOUT THE RIVER.

WHEN WE DID OUR ORIGINAL PERMIT APPLICATION, THE FOUNDATION DOES WORK FOR THEM.

PLACE A REQUEST FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON ISSUE AND ASK FOR A ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT DECIDED DID NOT MAKE THIS CALL.

IT WAS NOT THAT MUCH IMPACT OR EVEN POTENTIALLY IMPACT ON THE RIVER.

IN FACT, YOUR FATHER MAY OR MAY NOT, BUT IN ANY EVENT, THEY DID ISSUE THE PERMIT AS A RESULT OF THAT.

AND THIS IS AN APPEAL TO THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHERE I'M GETTING FUSED AS A FATHER, DID WE NOT HAVE HOW MANY HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS OF CAPACITY APPROVED CAPACITY? HOW MANY WAS 1.9 MILLION? AND THIS WAREHOUSE THING IS, WOULD IT HAVE MADE ANY DIFFERENCE TO THE RIVER KEYBOARD OR ANYONE ELSE IF WE DON'T HAVE 300,000 IN DEPUTY FIELD OR SOMEWHERE TO THE SYSTEM, OR, I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS BUSINESS ABOUT THE PIPE GOING ACROSS THE RIVER, BEING THE PROBLEM HURRICANE, IF THE PIPE BREAKS, WHEN YOU HAVE HURRICANES OF WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A, REMEMBER THE CARRY BANG, THE 12 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

WASN'T EVEN HEARING ANYBODY, NOT EVEN GO AHEAD.

HOW LONG IS THIS? LIKE, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? I'M LIKE NOW FROM HERE, I INDICATED A MOMENT AGO.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I'M GOING TO DO IS FILE A MOTION TO DISMISS THE OPINION THAT NEITHER MR. DUB, NOR THE NEUTRAL FOUNDATION OR AGGRIEVED PARTY WITH RESPECT TO THIS PARTICULAR PROCEEDING.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT AGREEING PART IS THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY DID.

OKAY.

YOU PERSONALLY, A LAWYER.

I'M NOT AWARE OF .

I ASKED HIM, I CALLED HIM THE DAY AFTER I GOT THESE PAPERS, WE LOOKED AT HIM AND I SAW THAT WE HAD TO HAVE THE SAME THING.

ONE IN THE NAME OF RICHARD, DAVE J DE FOUNDATION.

SO I CALLED HER, I ASKED HER IF IN FACT WE HAD TWO AND SHE SAID, YEAH, THAT WAS THAT CUSTOMER ONE IN HIS NAME SIDE.

IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE AGREE WITH IN THE PAST, THAT AGREEMENT ARE THERE EITHER

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EVERYBODY SAID, HI, IS THERE ANY NAIL ON THE BANK? NO NECK, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE? WELL, AND HE HAS A, UH, OKAY, WE CAN JUST LEAVE THAT LINE THEN LET ME MAKE AN I'M GOING AGAIN.

SINCE WE WERE IN THE MISCELLANEOUS TURN THAT AUGUST THE 17TH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MEETING IN GROVE ASLEEP FIELDS, MIDDLE SCHOOL.

AND IT'S CONCERNING THE RAILROADS, THE TRENT NEWS GRASS, WHATEVER GROWED IN THE RIVERS, THE PROBLEMS WITH THE RAILROADS AND THE WHOLE THING, AND WHO IS GOING TO BE THERE IS THE FOLLOWING.

I HAVE SENT INVITATIONS TO A LONG LIST OF SCIENTISTS FROM THE STATE AND ALL SORTS OF GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES.

SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH RIVER, OTHER RIVERS AND ALL KINDS OF EXPERTS ON BOTANICAL RIVER THINGS.

AND THE REASONING BEHIND ME IS BEVERLY PURDUE ALSO HAS JONATHAN THE HOUSE, THE SECRETARY OF, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL, ENVIRONMENTAL, NATURAL RESOURCES, HEALTH, ENVIRONMENTAL.

HE'S GOING TO BE THERE ALL SORTS OF LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A, THEY'RE GOING TO COMPOSE A PANEL OF EXPERTS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, SOME OF THE LOCAL LEGISLATORS, THEIR PUBLIC IS INVITED TO COME.

AND AT THE END OF IT, THEY CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS AND I WANT TO CAUTION EVERYBODY.

THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BE ONE OF THESE GRAND STANDING.

AND FINGER-POINTING, UH, NOISY.

THE ELLS IS GOING TO BE A SCIENTIFIC, UH, ATTEMPT TO GET TO SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON WITH THE RIVER.

A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH MYSELF.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IAN AND I BLAME IT ON MY PHYSICS TRAINING.

I GUESS I'M JUST NOT USED TO PEOPLE DECIDING WITHOUT EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE OF WHATEVER, WHAT PROBLEMS ARE AND RUNNING OFF SAILING FORTH TO RESOLVE AFFECTS THEM WHEN THEY HAVE NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT A, B OR C IS A PROBLEM.

HOWEVER, I DO WELCOME ANY SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, A, B, AND C ARE THE PROBLEM, AND THEN WE'LL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

AND WHEN YOU TALK TO SOME OF THESE EXPERTS, IT'S PRETTY NICE.

I'M ONLY TOLD ME THEY WERE SORT OF EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I WAS, I SAID THE FIRST TIME AT ALL THAT MANY DIFFERENT ONES, BUT THEN GATHERED TOGETHER AT ONE TIME.

SO IT ALL PRETTY GOOD SANDWICH.

AGAIN, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN POLITICS AND I'M NOT INTERESTED IN ANYBODY'S OPINION.

I'M INTERESTED IN FACTS.

AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE RIVER, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING INTO THE FACTS AND SO FORTH, AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT WHAT IT IS, WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT AS MAYOR.

I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO PARK WATERS BY ANY STRETCH OF IMAGINATION, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE STARTED CALLING ME ABOUT IT.

UH, YOU KNOW, I STARTED OUT BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MAYOR, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO ABOUT IT? AND THEN WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AROUND AND TALKING TO SOME OTHERS, SOME OF THE OTHER LOCAL LEGISLATORS, THEY ARE ALSO INTERESTED IN SOLVING THE PROBLEM AND DECIDED IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO GET ALL THE EXPERTS IN ONE ROOM.

I HAVEN'T HAD ANY INTERESTED PARTIES OBSERVE.

AND AS I SAID, AT THE END, I GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE, FOR THE EXPERT WHILE WE HAVE, I PROMISE YOU, YOU WILL NOT BE ANY POLITICAL GRAND STANDING.

THIS IS ALL IN SEARCH OF SCIENCE, THAT'S IT? SO YOU WILL HAVE YEAH.

ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH.

YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THIS UP.

YOU CAN, IF YOU WANT.

UM, BUT ONE THING ON RIGHT.

OR REQUEST ANYTHING ELSE? ANY MOTION TO ADJOURN ALREADY GOT ONE ON THE BOAT.

ANY DISCUSSION OF THE INVITED US AND THERE'S NEVER ANYBODY LEFT.

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I'M ALL OVER THE POLE, FAMILY RESTAURANT.