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ROBERT EVEN SHOWED UP ALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND WE'LL OPEN WITH A PRAYER BY DR.
THOMAS JENNER, FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH.
THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THE BOARD, THE MAYOR, ALL OF THE WISDOM THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT ARE AT HAND, WE ASK THAT THEY WOULD ALL BE ACCORDING TO YOUR PERFECT.
WE'LL GIVE YOU GLORY AND WE'LL HELP PEOPLE HERE IN JESUS NAME.
FIRST THING WE HAVE AT NIGHT IS THE LIVE WITH QUESTION ROTATION OF CITIZENS.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE TONIGHT THAT HAS COME, JUST TO SPEAK OUT ON SOME PARTICULAR ISSUE, RAISE YOUR HAND.
IF YOU HEAR THAT IT'S NOT ANYBODY HERE FOR THAT.
AND WE'LL PLAY THOSE THAT WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE NEWBURN REGIONAL CAMERA LAND USE PLAN UPDATE.
UH, CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME TONIGHT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE, UM, I CAN BE HEARD.
THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE 1998 NEWBURN REGIONAL LAND USE PLAN UPDATE.
AND AS THE DATE IMPLIES, THAT SORT OF HAS BEEN A VERY LONG PROCESS THAT WE'RE FINALLY AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS.
AND THIS IS THE FINAL STEP FOR THIS BOARD TO TAKE BEFORE THE PLAN GOES TO THE COASTAL RESOURCES COMMISSION FOR CERTIFICATION.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT GROUP WILL DO ONCE THIS BOARD HAS ADOPTED A PLAN.
WE WERE THE FIRST, UH, IN THE 20 COUNTY AREA TO BE GRANTED FUNDS FOR OUR REGIONAL PLAN FOR, UH, UH, APPROACH TO LAND USE PLANNING.
I THINK THERE HAS BEEN ONE OTHER PLAN THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED SINCE THAT TIME.
WE HAVE TO HAVE BEEN THE FIRST ADOPTED REGIONAL LAND USE PLAN, BUT IT WILL BE THE SECOND AND THAT'S FINE.
IT'S A, IT'S STILL A GOOD APPROACH AND A SMART WAY TO DEAL WITH THE LAND USE ISSUES WITH AREAS ARE CLOSE AS WE ARE WITH NEW-BORN AND TRENT WOODS.
OF COURSE, THOSE ARE OUR SORT OF OUR PARTNERS IN THIS PLAN, AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UM, THE PLAN REMI REVEALS A WHOLE LOT OF WHAT WE, WE KNEW AND EXPECTED, AND THAT IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMONALITIES.
THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS WHERE WE WERE VERY MUCH, UM, HAD THE SAME KIND OF IDEAS THAT RIBBON AND TRENT WOODS HAD.
AND THERE WERE A FEW PLACES WHERE WE DIFFERED AND THOSE THINGS WERE POINTED OUT IN THE PLAN.
OF COURSE, THE PLAN IS, IS A FUNCTIONAL TOOL.
IT'LL HELP US IN GUIDING LAND USE DECISIONS, POLICIES, DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE, AND IT GIVES US DIRECTION.
WHEN LOOKING AHEAD, UH, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE PATHI VINSON.
SHE IS WITH THE DIVISION OF COASTAL MANAGEMENT.
SHE'S THE DISTRICT PLANNER SHE'S HERE THIS EVENING AND ALSO WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE BUDDY BLACKBURN.
AND HE IS THE CONSULTANT THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH WITH WOOTEN COMPANY.
AND I'M GONNA ASK GLEN BUDDY TO COME FORWARD AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND THE COMMITTEES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD TO TALK ABOUT THE PLAN AND, UM, AND HOW WE KIND OF GOT TO THIS POINT.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BUDDY.
UH, WE ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THE PUBLIC HERE AND ON THESE LADIES PLANS BECAUSE THEY WERE GETTING CLOSE TO WRAPPING UP THE PROJECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS, THAT MENTIONED, UH, THIS WAS A REGIONAL PLAN.
IT DID INVOLVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, A WHOLE LOT MORE PEOPLE THAN WE NORMALLY HAVE INVOLVED WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.
AND I THINK THAT MADE IT A SPECIAL PLAN AND HOPEFULLY BY HAVING EXTENSIVE PUBLIC, JUST PATIENT, UH, ALL THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT OF THE ELECTED BOARDS ADOPTING THE PLAN, AND IF WE'VE DONE OUR JOBS AND, UH, HOPEFULLY IT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER WHEN WE GET TO THIS POINT.
AND I THINK, UH, YOU'RE SEEING THE OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THEM AS LEADERS.
IT HAS PAID OFF FOR ALL OF US.
I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU JUST A MINUTE TO JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH IN DEVELOPING THE PLAN.
UH, SOME OF YOU PROBABLY HAVE BEEN ON THE, ON THE BOARD, UH, AND HAVE
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DEALT WITH THE LAND USE PLANNING UPDATES, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COASTAL AREA MANAGEMENT ACT REQUIRES GENERALLY THAT THESE LAND USE PLANS BE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS FOR THE, THE CITIES AND THE COUNTIES ARE IN THE 20 COASTAL COUNTIES.UH, THIS, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS GOING TO BE A, UH, SOMEWHAT OF A, A DIFFERENT PROCESS BECAUSE OF WE'RE INVOLVED IN THREE COMMUNITIES.
HOWEVER, WE, WE FELT LIKE THE PROCESS WENT EXTREMELY WELL.
AND IN FACT, I THINK WE DID THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK FOR THREE COMMUNITIES.
UH, AND LAST TIME PROBABLY IN WHAT WE DO IN SOME COMMUNITIES, JUST ONE COMMUNITY.
THE PROSPECT OF HAVING TO DEAL WITH THREE COMMUNITIES AND TRY TO COORDINATE, IT SEEMS TO BE ALMOST AN UNKNOWN AND TASK.
UM, BUT THE OTHER PARTICIPANTS, OTHER NEWBURN, THE TOWN OF RIVERBEND TOWN OF TRINET WOODS, THERE IS A CERTAIN DEGREE OF COMMONALITY AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE REGION.
AND I THINK THIS PROCESS FOSTERED THAT, UH, STILL RECOGNIZING THAT EACH COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT STATE HAS THEIR OWN NEEDS ON A GENERAL DIRECTION.
THEY WANT TO GO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALL LIVE IN THE SAME GENERAL AREA AND HAVE A LOT OF COMMON THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.
AND I THINK JUST BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND TALKING ABOUT ISSUES THAT CONCERN US ALL, UH, WE DEVELOPED A BETTER PLAN FOR THAT.
YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY THE PLAN PREPARATION INVOLVED, A STEERING COMMITTEE, MR. MANLEY WAS ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM, UH, NEW-BORN.
THIS STEERING COMMITTEE WAS MADE UP OF ABOUT 23 CITIZENS THAT REPRESENTED THE BROAD SPECTRUM OF, UH, CITIZENS IN THREE COMMUNITIES.
AND THIS STEERING COMMITTEE MET APPROXIMATELY 10 TIMES STARTING IN JANUARY, 1998.
AND THAT COMMITTEE WAS OUR GUIDING FORCE AND LOOKING AT THE FORMER PLANS, LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAD TO DO TO INCLUDE IN THE NEW PLANS AND HELPING US MOLD THE PLAN TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, WE FELT LIKE WE INCLUDED NOT ONLY THE STEERING COMMITTEE THAT REPRESENTED THE BROAD CITIZENS.
WE HAD CITIZEN INPUT AT VARIOUS STAGES THAT WE FELT HELPED, UH, MAKE THIS PLAN A VIABLE PLAN.
FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING IN THE BEGINNING TO INFORM PEOPLE AS TO WHAT THE PLAN WAS ABOUT WHAT OUR SCHEDULE WAS, HOW WE PLAN TO INVOLVE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
WE HAD THREE PUBLIC FORUMS, ONE IN EACH OF THE COMMUNITIES AFTER WE HIT A DEVELOPED A PRELIMINARY PLAN.
SO WE COULD SEE THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.
WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE MASSAGE ON IT, BUT HAVING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN, IN THE, UH, MEDIA COVERAGE THAT WE HAD THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, HELP US GET TO THE POINT.
WE ARE NOT IN FACT, MIKE AVERY, AND I DID A, I'M NOT SURE IT WAS EVER AIR, BUT WE, WE DID A LITTLE, A TAPE OR A CABLE TV TO EXPLAIN THAT THE PLAN AS WELL, THERE WERE NUMEROUS, UH, NEWSPAPER RELEASES, UH, PUBLIC, UH, INFORMATION THAT WAS PUT OUT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PLAN.
AND AS FAR AS PLAN REVIEW, OF COURSE, OUR STEERING COMMITTEE, THIS 23 MEMBER GROUP WAS PRIMARILY THE GROUP THAT WE BOUNCE THINGS OFF OF THAT HELPED US DEVELOP THE POLICIES, HELPED US PUT THE PLAN TOGETHER.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC OBVIOUSLY HAD AN INPUT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
THE PLANNING BOARDS OF ALL THREE OF THE COMMUNITIES HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISSIPATE YOUR PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED ADOPTION FOR PLAN A AT HIS DECEMBER MEETING THIS PAST YEAR.
AND WE ALSO BY BY THE STATUTES HAD TO SUBMIT THE PLAN IN ITS RAF FORM TO DIVISION OF COASTAL MANAGEMENT, WHICH COORDINATED STATEWIDE REVIEW OF THAT.
WE GOT COMMENTS BACK, UH, LAST, UH, SUMMER AND FORMULATE THE FINAL PLAN AFTER THAT REVIEW.
SO WHERE WE ARE NOW IS THE PLAN ADOPTION.
UH, THE CAM AG REQUIRES THAT EACH COMMUNITY ADOPT FORMERLY ADOPT THE PLAN THAT THE ELECTED BOARD IN EACH COMMUNITY ADOPT PLAN AND WITH THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD ASK FOR YOU TONIGHT AS ADOPTION, THIS PLAN, THE TOWN OF, UH, RIVER BAND, WE'LL BE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING NEXT MONTH ON THE PLAN.
AND TRENT WOODS WILL HAVE ONE THE FIRST WEEK IN FEBRUARY.
WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR IS TO HAVE ALL THREE OF THE COMMUNITIES ADOPT THE PLAN SO THAT WE CAN TAKE IT TO THE COASTAL RESOURCE COMMISSION, WHICH IS THE GROUP THAT ACTUALLY CERTIFIES THE PLAN, THEIR MEETINGS AT THE END OF MARCH.
AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE ALL THE APPROVALS BY THAT TIME TO SUBMIT FOR THE MARCH MEETING.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH OUR SCHEDULE AT THIS POINT IN TERMS OF FINAL PRODUCT.
UH, YOU'VE SEEN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AS WELL, PROBABLY THE FINAL DOCUMENT HERE.
IT LOOKS TO BE A FAIRLY VOLUMINOUS DOCUMENT, UH, AND IT IS, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE CAM ACT REQUIRES THAT THE CITY'S CONSIDER CERTAIN THINGS AND INCLUDE IN THE PLAN.
BUT IF YOU REMEMBER, WE'VE GOT THREE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THIS PLAN, UH, WE BREAK IT OUT INTO THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
IT'S NOT SUCH A VOLUMINOUS DOCUMENTS THAT MIGHT APPEAR IN ADDITION TO HAVING THEM TO FULL DOCUMENT THAT THE CURRENT CONTRACT CALLS FOR PAIRING FULL PUBLIC DISTRIBUTIONS, 100 COPIES FOR EACH COMMUNITY, A FOLD-OUT SUMMARY,
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WHICH WE ANTICIPATE HAVING A MAP ON ONE SIDE AND SOME TEXTS ON THE, ON THE ROAD SIDE, WE FELT LIKE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PUBLIC INFORMATION, UH, TOOL AS WELL AS MOST PEOPLE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT A DOCUMENT BESIDES, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.AND AS ANNETTE SAID, THAT THE PURPOSE TONIGHT IS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, TO RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT, UH, CITIZENS MAY HAVE.
AGAIN, WE THINK WE'VE DONE OUR JOB UP TO THIS POINT.
WE'VE INVOLVED THE PUBLIC EXTENSIVELY.
WE FELT LIKE THE PLAN THAT WE BRING TO YOU FOR ADOPTION HAS HAD CONSIDERATION FROM A WIDE SPECTRUM OF PEOPLE.
IT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY YOUR STEERING COMMITTEES AND IN YOUR CASE, YOUR PLANNING BOARD, AND I WOULD, BEFORE I ADD MY COMMENTS AND YOU OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT SERVED AND CAME TO OUR 10 MEETINGS AND OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS OVER THE ROUGHLY A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.
UH, THE STAFF FOR NEWBURN COORDINATED.
THIS DID A VERY GOOD JOB, MIKE AND THE MET AND, UH, UH, BERNARD.
UH, I THINK I, I STARTED THIS PROCESS WHEN GREG WAS THE COO WAS HERE AND WITH THE GREG
SO WE WORE THEM ALL OUT, UH, UNDERTAKEN THIS PLAN WITH A FEW SURVIVORS, ALSO LIKE, UH, RECOGNIZE PRICEY TAYLOR, WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE COASTAL RESOURCE COMMISSION.
SHE WAS ASSIGNED TO OVERSEE AND LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH US THROUGH, THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS IN MARCH FOR THE FULL CRC TO SORT OF FIND A PLAN.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT ALL I HAD TO, UH, IN TERMS OF GIVING YOU AN OVERVIEW, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY FINANCIAL, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, BUT AGAIN, THE MAJOR PURPOSE WAS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
ONE MIGHT HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT PLANTY.
UH, WHAT DO YOU THINK? THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE THAT I SET US AN OLD MAN ON THE STREET, SO TO SPEAK AND SEE, AND THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE, UH, AFTER THIS PLAN IS ADOPTED VERSUS HOW THINGS THINGS WERE DONE BEFORE.
WHAT WAS THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT YOU SEE COMING ABOUT THE BIGGEST CHANGE IN WHAT WE DID IN THIS PROCESS? YEAH.
WHEN WE ADOPT THIS PLAN, WHAT IS, HOW, HOW IS IT GOING TO MAKE AN EFFECT THAT SOMEBODY CAN TOUCH AND FEEL AND SEE? YEAH.
UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON WILL SEE ANY DIFFERENCE.
UH, THERE, THERE WAS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES THAT WE FELT LIKE WE HAD TO DEAL WITH WITH THIS PLAN.
UH, I THINK IN TERMS OF POLICIES THAT WERE ADOPTED, UH, ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAD IN YOUR FORMER PLAN REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE THE DIRECTION OR FLOW OF WHAT I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AS A COMMUNITY.
I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE DID DO WAS LOOK AT CERTAIN POLICY ISSUES AND TRY TO MORE NARROW THE FOCUS ON TO MAKE THEM WORKABLE FOR ME, SO THAT WHEN QUESTIONS DO ARISE, THAT IT, WHETHER IT'S DAY-TO-DAY PLANNING ISSUES OR OUR LONG-TERM PLANNING ISSUES OR PROJECT CONSISTENCY ISSUE THAT YOUR LAND USE PLAN IS A, IS A RESOURCE YOU CAN GO TO, TO HELP MAKE THE DECISION.
AND I, AND I THINK, I THINK IF ANYTHING, WHAT WE TRY TO DO WAS CLARIFY AND IMPROVE ON WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOSE, AND THAT CERTAINLY NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PLAN YOU HAD, UH, IT JUST NEEDED TO BE UPDATED.
AND THERE WERE CERTAIN POLICY ISSUES THAT WE CAN'T REGULATIONS CHANGED THAT YOU NEEDED TO ADDRESS.
AND WE JUST SIMPLY NEEDED TO HAVE WHAT IS THE CITY'S POLICY AS IT RELATES TO WHAT A NIGHTMARE, BUT OVERALL, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF, UH, A CHANGE IN DIRECTION, UH, IN TERMS OF POLICIES WHAT'S RECOMMENDED IS NOT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT FROM ONCE YOU HIT, UH, I COULDN'T REALLY FIND ANYTHING, RIGHT.
THERE'S A LOT OF THE SAME LINES THAT WE'VE BEEN THINKING.
AND AGAIN, A PART OF THE PROCESS WAS UPDATING THAT'S WHY IT WAS CALLED NOTHING.
HE WAS JUST TRYING TO BRING THINGS UP, UP TO SNUFF AND UP TO UP-TO-DATE.
UH, THERE WAS A MAP CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN TERMS OF BRINGING, UH, DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS IN, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S OUTSIDE ANYTHING THAT WAS ANTICIPATED IN YOUR OVERALL PLANNING PROGRAM, UH, FOR THE CITY.
AND I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING FOR THE OTHER THREE COMMUNITIES.
UM, FORTUNATELY WE JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS NOT A LOT OF CONTROVERSY, WHICH I GUESS CAN BE GOOD OR BAD INSIDE YOUR OWN, BUT WE FOUGHT, WE FOUGHT.
UH, WE ALSO THINK THAT'S ONE, TRUST ME, THE FINAL PRODUCT IS A REGIONAL PLAN RATHER THAN THREE SEPARATE DOCUMENTS.
AND THAT'S A RESOURCE THAT WE CAN ALL USE THIS.
AND AGAIN, IT WILL REQUIRE ADOPTION BY ALL THREE GOVERNMENTS.
AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT BY THE 1ST OF MARCH, SOME DO THESE REGULAR REGULATIONS, UM, MENTIONING ANYTHING ABOUT SETBACK LINES FOR BUILDING ON THE WATER.
UH, THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME POLICIES THAT DEAL WITH, UH, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAD ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY.
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UH, I REMEMBER ONCE I THINK MAX HAD MENTIONED IT TOO, ABOUT A STATE DOING IT BACK IN HERE, WE CAN BUILD SOME BARCODES, BUT THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, AS A STATE, HAVE THEY COMPLETED THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THERE'S NEW SETBACK REGULATIONS, YEAH.BUT NONE OF THIS PERTAINS TO THAT STATE ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO THE PUBLIC? ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT.
IS ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON IT? EVERYBODY CLOSE.
SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT ALL IN FIBERS, UH KNOW, WE TOOK, INSTEAD OF MAKING AN ORDER TO AVOID A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PLAN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
NEXT THING WE HAVE IS A CONSENT AGENDA.
MOVING UP ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, NO, SIR.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MS. LEE, NOT FOR ME, SIR, BUT BARBARA
UM, I DON'T WANT IT TO SOLICIT YOURS.
YOU GUYS SUPPORT FOR SOMETHING.
UM, I I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO COME WITH ME ONE DAY, WHEN YOU ALL, MOST YOU HAVE THE TIME FOR A COMMUNITY TO HAVE DIFFERENT FIELDS.
I LIKE YOU TO COME WITH ME AND WAS WE DO WALK OFF OR A RIDE AROUND AND JUST GET A FEEL FOR THE WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE LIVING HERE IN THE CITY OF NEWBERRY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOME OF THOSE STREETS AND SOME OF THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE SITTING THERE BEEN BOARDED UP FOR YEARS, THERE'S TRASH THERE'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST, WE JUST NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE'RE LIVING AND TALK ABOUT WHAT KINDS OF THINGS WE CAN DO.
I SUPPOSE WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
AND THOSE OF US A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE WHEN WE'RE DOING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROPOSALS, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT WE DID HAD A REAL LASTING IMPACT ON A PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY.
FOR INSTANCE, UM, AS I WROTE DOWN BLOOMFIELD STREET AND EIGHTH STREET, AND THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE FROM THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE THEIR HOMESTEADS HERE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE
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IT.AND NEXT TO IT ARE RENTALS WHERE THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO PRESERVE IT.
AND ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ON BILL STREET, THERE'S A STORE ACROSS THE STREET IN THE SAME STORE I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HEADSTOCK PROGRAM.
AND, UM, ON THE OUTSIDE, PEOPLE ARE STANDING AROUND AND DRINKING AND THEN BUSTING BOTTLES.
THEY HAD THIS LADY, UH, WHO HAS A HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF EIGHTH STREET AND, AND, UH, BIDDLE.
AND SHE CAN'T RENT HER HOUSE A NICE HOUSE AND IT STAYS VACANT.
SHE PUT A FENCE AROUND IT, BUT ALL AROUND IT IS GLASS DOWN THE STREET.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T SEE IT.
I WAS RESPONSIBLE TO MONITOR THAT, BUT I SAY, WHEN WE USED TO HAVE THIS PROBLEM WITH A TRASH PICKUP, YOU KNOW, WE, WE USED TO HAVE THIS REAL RATS AND EVERYTHING GOING ON BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH TRASH AND GARBAGE.
AND OFTENTIMES WE SAY IT WAS BECAUSE OF OUR SYSTEM OF PICKING UP TRASH AND STICKERS AND ALL THAT.
SO I THOUGHT, WELL, WE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD RESOLVED MOST OF THAT.
AND MAYBE SO I BELIEVE ONCE BEFORE WE GOT TOGETHER WITH LANDLORDS AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, TO KEEP THIS GARBAGE FROM SITTING ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET ALL THE TIME.
AND SO I THINK WE STARTED ASSESSING LANDOWNERS FOR THE GARBAGE THAT LAID ON THE STREET ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE STILL DOING THAT, BUT IT'S JUST A BIT ANNOYING AND APPALLING JUST TO SEE IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY HAVE ALLOWED PILES OF GARBAGE AND WE DON'T PICK IT UP BECAUSE YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S GOING TO PAY.
BUT MY THING IS, I THINK WE NEED TO GET A LITTLE BIT HARD, NOTICE ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND IF YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY JUST HAS TO PAY AND IT DON'T HAVE TO BE US, BUT WE EITHER HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO ENCOURAGE THESE COMMUNITIES TO START TAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE PRIDE.
WE GOT TO TAKE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS BACK FROM, YOU KNOW, I SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING WRONG.
THAT VIOLATES ANYBODY'S RIGHTS.
BUT I THINK THAT IF ONE MAN'S SO CALLED, RIGHT INFRINGE UPON THE RIGHTS OF MOST OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, SOMEBODY GOT TO SAY SOMETHING AND SOMEBODY'S GOT TO DO SOMETHING AND IT'S EASY TO BE IGNORED BECAUSE IT'S BACK OFF THE STREET.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A THROWAWAY WHERE YOU CAN RIDE BY, YOU SEE IT EVERY DAY, STANDING ON THE CORNER.
SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU GUYS CAN RIDE WITH ME, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING MINOR WE CAN DO.
YOU KNOW, ONE TIME I THOUGHT WE'D GET PRISONERS TO COME AND GET THE GLASS.
BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT CLEANING UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR PEOPLE, WE USED TO DO NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUPS AND THEN WE'D GO BACK NEXT WEEK.
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A MESS.
I REALLY DON'T BELIEVE IN GOING AND CLEANING UP PEOPLE, NEIGHBORHOODS, I BELIEVE IN TEACHING THEM OR MAKING THEM CLEAN THEM UP THEMSELVES.
AND WE JUST HAVE TO GET TOUGH ABOUT THERE'S AN OLD HOUSE ON BLOOMFIELD STREET THAT HAS BEEN STANDING THERE LONG ENOUGH TO BE MAD AND ULINE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST STANDING THERE AND BECAUSE NOBODY EVER CALLED BY, OH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEE IT.
THE STREET IS ABOUT THIS NARROW AND IT'S STILL A THROUGHWAY BARBARA, WOULDN'T IT BE A GOOD IDEA.
MAYBE WE TOOK A CITY BUS BEFORE ONE OF OUR MEETINGS AND RODE THROUGH IT RATHER THAN FINALLY GET REALLY PIECEMEAL AND SOME, SOME OF US WORK.
SO I'VE RETIRED, MAYBE DO THAT BEFORE A MEETING AND THEN WE CAN ALL SEE IT AND DISCUSS IT WHILE THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
IT'S NEVER LIKE THINK SOME OF THOSE STREETS, THEY CAN'T GET A BUS NOW.
IT'S DO YOU KNOW, I CAN'T DRIVE MY TRUCK VERY WELL.
YOU KNOW? AND WHEN I CAME TO THAT CORNER FROM NORTH STREET, I WROTE ON A BUS ON THE CAR.
I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I'LL LEAVE THAT BUS AND GET DOWN THE STREET MIGHT NOT COME BACK OUT, BUT IT CAN GO.
I'D LIKE TO, I LIKE TO MRS. SAMSON.
AND I WENT THROUGH THE STREET THE OTHER DAY, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS THERE, UH, TUESDAY, MONDAY, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION RELATED TO THIS? UH, AND I DON'T MEAN ANYTHING BY IT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING.
WHAT HAPPENED? DID YOU RIDE AROUND AND THEN LOOK AROUND AND THEN GET DEPRESSED BY THE SURROUNDINGS? WELL, I RIDE AROUND IT ALL THE TIME.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WALK IN AND THEN YES, AND IT'S DEPRESSING.
I WENT THERE FOR A PARTICULAR REASON.
WE HAD HAD A HOUSE THAT BURNED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS IS SOME OF THE TARGET AREA WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CLEARING IT OFF THE GREENERY I WAS STANDING UP AND TALKING TO MR. SAMSON IS
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ONE LOCKER IS A LOT OF CREAMS. YOU KNOW, WE JUST DO THINGS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, THAT ARE NOT GOOD TO DO.AND THEN LIZ ASKED HER, YOU KNOW, WHO THE SAMSON AND NOTICE THE STREET, CAUSE IT COULDN'T GET ROUND THE CORNER.
SO I GOT OUT AND WE STARTED WALKING.
UH, ROBERT, ESPECIALLY WHEN I GO DOWN EIGHTH STREET, EVERY TIME I SOMETIMES IT'LL AVOID RIDING EIGHTH STREET IN PARTICULAR.
CAUSE THAT PILE OF GARBAGE HAS BEEN THERE IN FRONT OF LITTLE ROCK CHURCH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES HAD IT MOVED OVER IN FRONT OF LITTLE ROCK CHURCH OVER THERE BESIDE THAT STORE.
WE HAVE GOTTEN UP THERE OURSELVES AND CLEANED IT UP.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IF WE WENT TOGETHER, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN COME UP WITH COLLECTIVELY THAT WE CAN DO.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY REASON I ASKED YOU THAT QUESTION IS YOUR TECH.
WHEN I DRIVE THROUGH THAT AREA, I GET DEPRESSED AND THERE ARE SOME AREAS IN MY DISTRICT I GET DEPRESSED INTO.
AND UH, I WAS WONDERING WHY WE NEVER APPLIED FOR THOSE EMPOWERMENT ZONE RANTS THAT CLINTON, THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION HAD FOR CITIES.
I KNOW A LOT OF SMALLER CITIES THAT GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY QUALIFYING AS AN EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
THEY LITERALLY BUILD ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAYBE WE NEED TO GET OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
JUST LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF WE CAN'T QUALIFY FOR THOSE TYPES OF MASSIVE GRANTS THAT ARE LITERALLY CHANGING THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT DEPRESSES ME WHEN I GO IN AND DEFINITELY IT DEPRESSES ME WHEN I JOINED CERTAIN PARTS OF THIRD AVENUE, FIRST AVENUE, NASTY TRASH.
AND I SEE, UH, HOW TO SIT ON TOP STREETS AND JUST, JUST SEEING THAT'S BAD.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE PEOPLE OR WHAT, BUT IT LOOKS BAD.
BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE KIND OF MONEY THAT WE SPENT IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BLOCK GRANTS AND SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEN YOU GO BACK.
THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS, I KNOW HOW TO, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE GRANT PROGRAMS AND WE SHOULD A LOT OF THAT.
A LOT OF MEN FROM RENTALS, A LOT OF IT'S RENTALS THAT CAUSES BETTER.
AND WE'VE ADDRESSED THIS IN THE PAST.
BUT EVIDENTLY WE DIDN'T GET TO STAY ON TOP OF, WELL, LET ME, LET ME MAKE SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT MIGHT WORK OUT.
WE'VE GOT SOME NEIGHBORHOODS IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT BECAUSE OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM OUT OF WHATEVER, BUT ANYWAY, DEVELOPING A NEIGHBORHOOD PRIDE AND GETTING SOME, A CORE GROUP OF PEOPLE TO YELL, BUT IT REALLY BROUGHT SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS GIANT STEPS AHEAD.
AND I THINK THAT TO MAKE IT WORK, THAT IF WE GOT SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE WILLING TO COME FROM THOSE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND GROUPS THAT HAVE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB COME TOGETHER AND THEN PICK SOME PEOPLE OUT, MAYBE FROM THE CHURCHES OR WHATEVER.
AND THAT IN THE DEPTH OF FIELD AREA, THAT WOULD AGREE TO BE SORT OF A SEED, A CORE GROUP, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD COME TOGETHER AND THEN THEY CAN ALL KIND OF TELL THEM HOW THEY DID IT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, USE THE METHODOLOGY IS THERE BECAUSE THESE, ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS APPROPRIATE PROVEN IT, BUT IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET EVERYBODY, UH, IT'S THE COMMENT THAT I MADE.
REMEMBER IN THE LAST MEETING, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ALL THIS CRASH BLOWN OUT OF THESE TRUCKS AND THE WHOLE APP, BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO THROW SOMETHING OUT THE WINDOW OR WHATEVER, IF SOMETHING ELSE IS ALREADY OUT THE WEAPON.
AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A RETHINKING OF THE WHOLE THING.
AND THEN, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS BECAUSE OF PEER PRESSURE, PEOPLE WILL THINK TWICE BEFORE THEY TOSS OUT A RAPPER OR A CIGARETTE WRAPPER OR WHATEVER THAT THEY USED TO THROW OUT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THE OTHER PEOPLE DON'T REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
BUT FIRST WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL THESE PEOPLE TOGETHER.
AND I THINK THEY'LL PROBABLY FIND THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN DOING ALL THAT, BUT THEY'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO SORT OF DEVELOP AROUND OR A CORE GROUP OF FOLKS TO, TO GET TOGETHER.
SO MAYBE IF WE GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT SITUATION, LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, AND THEN I ASKED FOR SOME VOLUNTEERS FROM SOME OF THESE REAL GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS THAT HAVE COME A LONG WAY AND THEN GET SOME TOUCH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THAT NIGHT WITH IT.
AND THEY'LL SAY, HEY, HERE'S HOW WE DID IT.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THIS FRUSTRATION IS NOT JUST MY FRUSTRATION.
MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE OTHER ONES, THEY'RE CALLING ME.
THEN WHEN THEY, WHY DON'T THEY DO SOMETHING? WHY CAN'T YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS? IF I CLEAN UP MY LOCKER, I KEEP MY STREET CLEAN.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE HAVE A LOT OF PRIDE, THOSE OF THEM WHO ARE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S THOSE WHO ARE NOT NECESSARILY
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FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE PROBABLY CAUSING MOST OF THE PROBLEMS. BUT I THINK THAT WE, ONCE WE GO SEE, WE'LL FEEL THAT WE NEED MOST DEFINITELY TO BECOME MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE ABOUT WHAT WE DO.AND I WAS TALKING TO MR. SAMSON ABOUT IT.
AND HE AND I WERE LOOKING AROUND AND HE WAS FEELING THE SAME WAY, YOU KNOW, THAT HE SAID MAYBE IF WHAT WE NEED IS FUNDS OR WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE.
IF WE NEED WHATEVER WE MIGHT NEED, AS YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN GIVING NO, BUT THE COMMUNITY WANTS BACK THAT THE COUNTY AND THE CITY MIGHT, COULD WORK TOGETHER AND DOING SOME THINGS.
BUT WE, THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT BEGINNING TO BE VERY FRUSTRATING AND THEN IT'S GETTING, IT WOULD GET WARMER AND THEN THE SITUATION JUST GETS WORSE.
SO I THINK THAT WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED FROM OUT OF THAT AND FEEL LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON QUOTE, UNQUOTE, THE BUS, UH, ONE OF THESE DEVELOPING TRIPS AND TAKE THEM OVER AND SHOW THEM SOME OF THESE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND IT'S PROBABLY STILL THE BEST OF YOUR TWO LEFT.
AND SOME OF THEM ARE WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE VERSUS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.
AND IT KINDA GIVES PEOPLE IDEA THAT IT'S POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU JUST GET TO THE POINT, YOU THINK THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER REALLY REALIZE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE THINKING THE SAME WAY.
YOU'RE THINKING IT JUST NEVER REALLY GOT TOGETHER AND TALKED ABOUT IT.
I AGREE WITH, WITH BARBARA, THAT PROBLEM EXIST IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I AM FAMILIAR WITH, UH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CITY CLEANING SOME OF THESE LOTS ONCE OR EVEN TWICE.
BUT, UM, I WONDER IF WE HAVE REALLY BEEN ENFORCING REGULATIONS WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE BOOKS AS STRONGLY AS WE SHOULD HAVE TO BEGIN WITH.
AND NUMBER TWO, I THINK FROM THERE, HIS IDEA OF GETTING THE NEIGHBORS TOGETHER IN AN ORGANIZED EFFORT WOULD BE A BENEFIT BECAUSE I THINK THE MAIN, I THINK THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND KNOW WHO MAKING THE MESS.
AND I THINK THAT PEER PRESSURE, I THINK THE PRESSURE OF THEIR NEIGHBORS, I COULD PROBABLY HELP A LOT IN STOPPING IT.
MAYBE NOT, BUT GENERALLY THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS TOO OFTEN ABOUT THE PROBLEM THEY'RE CREATING.
THEY'LL GENERALLY, THEY'LL, YOU'LL GET SOME RESULTS FROM THAT.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A NUMBER OF APPROACHES.
I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE IS TO GET UP, GET UP, GET AN ORGANIZATION THROUGH WHICH YOU CAN WORK FOR THE OTHER APPROACHES FOR THE OTHER IDEAS THAT COME UP.
BUT YOU NEED ANY, EVEN A TREE TO HANG THOSE BRANCHES ON.
YOU NEED THAT YOU NEED A CORE GROUP HERE, CORRECT? AT THE INITIAL FIRST PARTNERSHIP MUST BE WITH THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S THE FIRST PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN TO HAVE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP, NOTHING ELSE IS GOING TO WORK.
SO WE CAN GET THAT PARTNERSHIP SUPPORT INVOLVED WITH, IF YOU CAN GET THAT PART, EVERYTHING ELSE IS ABOUT BRINGING THE BUS AROUND.
I STILL WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING MAKE AN INQUIRY ON WHAT THOSE EMPOWERMENT ZONE GRANTS ALL ABOUT AND WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN APPLY FOR IT.
BUT DO I REMEMBER WE WENT TO, WE WENT TO A MEETING ONE YEAR AND UH, ONE OF THE GUYS WERE TELLING US ABOUT THE GRANT MONEY THAT THEY GOT LIKE THAT URBAN RENEWAL MONEY USED TO BE YEARS AGO, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO TEACH THAT VALUE IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES WHERE WE CAN, UM, CURBING AND GUTTERING.
AND I THINK ONCE WE FINISHED THIS HAZARDOUS MITIGATION PROJECT, ONCE WE EVER FINISHED, THIS HAS THIS, A MITIGATION PROJECT OVER THERE WHERE WE KNOCKED DOWN A LOT OF THESE LITTLE STONE HOUSES THAT ARE BOARDED UP AND CLEAR OFF AND BEGAN TO SEE GREENERY THAT WOULD INSTILL SOME PRIDE.
AND, AND IN ADDITION, IF THERE WERE, IF WITH THESE GRANT FUNDS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SAY PURCHASE SOME OF THESE HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT YEARS AGO, THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE AND THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT SO LONG AGO AND SO WELL, AND REFURBISH THEM AND SELL THEM OR RENT THEM OR SOMETHING.
ANYWAY, THAT JUST BRINGS UP COMMUNITY.
WHEN WE GO INTO COMMUNITIES AND WE FIX PEOPLE, HOUSES, AND BELIEVE ME, THEIR HOMES NEED TO BE FIXING THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT IN SOME OF THEM, WHEN WE SPEND MONEY LIKE THAT, AND THEN WE GO BACK AND IT'S REALLY DISCUSSED, LIKE THE AVENUE Q AVENUE, FIRST AVENUE, THEY SPEND ALL THAT MONEY YOU HAVE IN THE HOUSES, FIXING THEM THESE THREE CAVE AND TOSH PUT A LITTLE CURB AND ON IT.
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UH, AT THE END, THE FIRST AVENUE TOWARDS BROAD STREET ON THE RIGHT ISSUE, IT'S TRASH ALL OVER THE PLACE IS THE FOLKS WERE LIVING IN THOSE RENTAL UNITS NEAR THERE.THAT'S THROWING THE TRASH THERE.
AND PLUS YOU GOT PEOPLE PASSING BACK, SHRINKING, THROWING THE BOTTLES, RIGHT NEAR THAT FENCE AREA WITH MS. JONES, I THINK SHOCK CHARLIE MEALS.
AND SO 50% OF THE PROBLEM IS A PEOPLE PROBLEM.
UH, HOW DO YOU, UH, MAKE PEOPLE IT'S LIKE THE MAN SAID, IF GET, IF, STAY NEAT, IF WE'RE ALL THINKING ON THE SAME ACCORD, IF WE GOT THE MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON MANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT MANY OF THEM FEEL THE SAME WAY WE DO TOGETHER, AND THEY FORMED A LITTLE COMMUNITIES WITH, AND IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LITTLE POLICE ACTION.
YOU KNOW, WE WORK TOGETHER, GET US A PLAN AND WEED OUT THESE BAD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND I'LL BE WEARING IT OUT.
BUT YOU ALL HAD PROBABLY BEEN IN THESE STEAK HOUSES WHERE YOU NEED TO PEANUTS AND THROW THE HOLES ON.
MY WIFE HAS TRAINED ME SO MANY YEARS.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M GETTING AT THOUGH IS ONCE SOMEBODY STARTS THE NEXT THING, YOU KNOW, NOTHING ELSE AND THIS AND THAT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS ANYBODY, IF SOMEBODY STARTS, UH, CARING ABOUT AND YOU KNOW, THAT SOMEBODY CARES ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE AN INDIAN THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER DAY.
REMEMBER THAT OLD COMMERCIAL WITH THE TEAR RUNNING DOWN HIS EYE UNITED.
I MEAN, I FELT MAD ABOUT THAT, THAT AMY AND I THOUGHT ABOUT HIM A LOT.
IF I WERE, I WANT TO THROW THIS UP AWAY, I SWALLOWED MY GOV.
YEAH, THAT'S THE CODING OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE NATIONAL AVENUE GROUP SHOW THAT SUCH ORGANIZATION.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
AND LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE HAD TO DO IT WITH JEALOUS.
THIS IS THE NEIGHBORS ATTITUDE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A STRUGGLE SOMETIMES BECAUSE LIGHTLY, SO SOMEBODY'S EXPERIENCES, ATTITUDES RELATE AND HAVE JUST BEEN VERY NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME PEOPLE, I MEAN, IT JUST, NO CARE HAD TO COME DOWN ORANGE STREET AND, YOU KNOW, HE CAN THROW HER, I SAID, LOOK, WE GOING HIT IT.
I HAD A KID TO TAKE SOME STYROFOAM OUT OF A BOX THAT A TV CAME IN.
AND, UH, AND THE KID WAS ACROSS THE STREET, STEPPING ON STAFF ON JUST BREAKING IT UP INTO PIECES.
AND I GOT OUT OF THE CAR WAS TRYING TO GO OUTSIDE.
I WENT ACROSS AND YOU NEED TO PICK THAT UP.
I SAID, YOU NEED TO PICK IT UP.
I REALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE PICKING IT UP.
JUST A KID, 12 YEARS OLD, 12 AND YOUNGER.
UH, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER KID WHO, YOU KNOW, HEARD ME SAID HE PROVIDED, WENT AND PICKED UP THEIR TRASH.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU JUST GOT AN ATTITUDE AND AN ATTITUDE THAT STUCK WITH A KID, ALL THE KIDS WOULD BE THOUGH THAT ATTITUDE IS JUST OUTTA PEOPLE.
WHO'S GOT HE'S, HE'S SEEN SOMEONE ELSE IN HIS HOUSE TO SAY THAT.
AND THERE'S REALLY JUST AN ATTITUDE THING.
AND, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THOSE ATTITUDES WOULD CHANGE.
AND AFTER WE TAKE THIS RIDE AND AFTER WE MEET WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT IT WOULD DEAD, IT WOULD BE A START FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AND I KNOW THERE WILL SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL BE VIEWED TO BE UPSET, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I GET UPSET ABOUT THINGS, BUT THIS IS, UM, ALL OF US NEED TO BE UPSET ABOUT.
I DOUBT IT COULD BE ANYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ACTUALLY LIVE AND THEY'VE INVESTED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE UPSET.
WELL, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU MAY WANT TO DO IN LIFE WILL NEVER BE IN A BIRD THOUGH.
I MEAN, I CAN NEVER, NO MATTER HOW HARD OR HOW BAD I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DUNK A BASKETBALL, IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT CAUSE IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.
BUT IF I WANT TO DO OTHER THINGS, ALL IT IS, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE JOYS OF HIS LIFE IS JUST THE DECISION TO WANT TO DO IT.
AND IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRULY WANTS TO DO IT, AND IF YOU WENT IN THERE AND WHITE MALE, A LOT OF FOLKS MIGHT NOT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU WENT INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN I WAS GOING TO MASS MEET, I WANTED TO KEEP THE PLACE CLEAN.
I HATE TO ADMIT THAT IN PUBLIC, I WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I WAS A KID LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT IF FOLKS COME TOGETHER, TALK
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ABOUT IT AND GET SOME PEOPLE THERE TO CAN SHOW UP AND IT HAS BEEN DONE AND CAN BE DONE.AND, AND, AND TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AFTER IT'S BEEN DONE.
AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY WANTS TO DO IT.
THEY CAN EASILY DO IT JUST BY THIS TIME.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
AND WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP THEM DO IT.
AND, AND WE, WE OTHER PEOPLE AND WE WILL DO THAT, BUT THAT'S GETTING THE BUS TYPE OF RIDE OUT, MAN.
IT WAS BASICALLY US COMING IN AND MR. MAYOR, MR. MAYOR, JULIUS, JULIUS CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT DUNCAN, THE BASKETBALL HE'S THE EXPERT.
UM, WELL, A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING.
AND I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THIS NEXT THING, BUT I THINK BILL HARTMAN CAN FILL IN THE GAPS.
UM, ONE OF THE, I THINK REALLY SINCE THIS BOARD HAS BEEN TOGETHER, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE HAVE WORKED TOWARD IS UPGRADING THE SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH IS GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
NEXT YEAR, THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WILL ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR.
AND THEY'RE ABOUT THREE QUARTERS THROUGH WITH THE PLANNING.
AND AS A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IT, BUT THE MARTIN MARIETTA SITUATION IS GOING TO BE IS A REALLY UNIQUE APPROACH AS PART OF THIS, UH, PLAN.
BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STILL CONFUSED ABOUT IT.
I JUST WANTED TO RE REMIND EVERYONE THAT THERE ARE VIDEOTAPES AVAILABLE, CITY HALL.
THEY ALDERMAN GOT COPIES, WHICH GIVE A LOT OF INFORMATION AND VIDEO OF SIMILAR PROJECTS THAT ARE 10 YEARS OLD.
WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND EXPLAIN THIS WHOLE THING AGAIN AGAIN, UH, FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE, WHO JUST FOR WHATEVER REASON, JUST HAVEN'T LISTENED, UH, ON FEBRUARY THE 29TH AT DAY MCDONALD'S SCHOOL, WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING.
WE WILL GIVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
WE CAN, WE WILL HAVE, UH, PEOPLE THERE WHO CAN PROBABLY ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU CAN COME UP WITH OR GET YOU AN ANSWER.
WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS THE TIME.
AND, UM, BILL MIGHT WANT TO ADD SOME PARTICULARS.
WHAT IS IT TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT GOING TO BE? IT'S GOING TO BE A AND I, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AS A GROUP, THIS BOARD HAS DONE, AND WE'RE AT A CRITICAL POINT NOW, AND WE NEED THE PEOPLE WHO, AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY THAT MANY OF THEM WHO HAVE BEEN VOCAL IN THEIR CRITICISM WHO DO NOT HAVE THE FACTS.
THEY SIMPLY ARE WRITING LETTERS TO THE EDITOR, WHICH ARE, WHICH CONTAIN POLICIES.
I'LL BE KIND OF FALLACIES, UH, INCORRECT INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
AND I WOULD LIKE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL TO ATTEND THAT MEETING, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE YOU GET THE TRUTH.
YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTION YOU LIKE, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU THE ANSWER.
UH, THERE WILL BE PRESENTATION THERE, UH, THAT WE WILL DO EARLY.
WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE, UH, WHAT'S BEEN DONE AND WHAT KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN THINK OF.
WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER THEM UP FRONT.
AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY THERE.
OF COURSE THE ENGINEERS WILL BE THERE.
UH, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT.
MR. MATTINGLY HAS ARRANGED TO HAVE, UH, HTA MCDONALD'S SCHOOL MADE AVAILABLE TO US FOR THAT NIGHT.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES FIRST, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, TRY THAT THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS EXPRESSED IN OUR LAST SESSION THAT WE HAD WITH EVERYBODY, RIGHT? AND A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS, THOSE QUESTIONS, MAYBE A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS OF THEM.
WE HAVE RESEARCHED AND WE HAVE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS NOW.
SO THIS'LL JUST BE ANOTHER PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING.
WON'T BE A HEARING, SO TO SPEAK, BUT IT'LL BE A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD, AND BRETT, JUST SOMETHING TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.
AND IT APPEARS IN THIS, LIKE IN ALMOST EVERY SITUATION IN WHICH ANY CONTROVERSY WHATSOEVER COMES UP, THE PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE IT, THE MOST
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VOCALLY ARE NOT GOING TO COME TO THE MEETINGS.AND IT'S, IT'S SAD, BUT THEY WON'T DO IT.
THEY DON'T BOTHER THEM THEIR MIND.
YOU KNOW, DON'T GIVE THEM, DON'T BOTHER ME WITH FACTS.
MY MIND IS MADE UP IS IT IS A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE THERE, BUT I HOPE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL TURN UP FOR THAT MEETING.
UH, I HANDED OUT EARLIER THAN MY, A RESOLUTION ADDRESSING UTILITY RAIN AND JAY-Z BETWEEN TWO PLOTS ARE SELLING OUT.
AT WHAT POINT WEST, THIS IS SOMETHING I WAS NOT AWARE OF A PROBLEM UNTIL FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
THE RESOLUTION READS BE RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF ALL OF THE CITY OF NEWBERN THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK I AUTHORIZED AND DIRECTED TO EXECUTE THE DEED VARYING DATE, FEBRUARY 3RD, 2080 WARD JR.
AS TRUSTEES BY WHICH TWO LIVES IN ORANGE POINT WEST ARE CONVEYED.
JOHN D L WOULD AND HIS WIFE, LEANNE, I WOULD HAVE TO RELEASE TO SAID TO LOT FROM UTILITY AND DRAIN AND JUDGMENT LOCATED ON THE COMMON LINE BETWEEN TWO LINES.
THERE'S A, JUST A MATTER OF GETTING RID OF A 15 FOOT BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BAR.
WHY MOVE IT DOWN THE ROAD? LOTS.
APPARENTLY BOTH LIGHTS ARE GOING TO BE USED AND STUFF
ANY PART OF THE DISCUSSION? DO WE NEED IT? ROLL CALL, ROLL CALL.