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YES,

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WE CALL IT DOOR, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, AND WE WILL HAVE THE OPENING PRAYER.

I'M HERE, NOT IN THE MANNY COOPER.

HE'S NOT HERE.

REVEREND SAMSON WILL HELP US OUT HERE.

THEY HAVEN'T BOTHERED BY BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW, THE PRECIOUS NAME OF JESUS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVING KINDNESS AND TENDER MERCY.

AND THE POINT OF THAT SUSPICION BLESSINGS, DEFINITELY WHATEVER FATHER AND ALL THOSE THAT REPRESENT HIM.

THE FATHER TOUCHES MOST VISCERAL WAY AND INVOLVE A LOT OF MY INTERVIEWS HAVE TO DISAGREE ON THE FATHER, GET UP TO GET A ONE.

A QUARTER OF MY FATHER WILL BLESS THE HOMES IN WHICH THEY CAME TO US IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

I PRAY.

AMEN.

THE FIRST THING THAT WE HAVE IS THE ROLL CALL HERE.

UM, I HAVE A REQUEST AND PETITION OF CITIZENS AND LIFE BRANDS NEEDING TO COME FORTH AND ENLIGHTEN US ABOUT THIS BOND REFERENDUM.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER AND ALL, ALL WOMAN.

IT IS A PLEASURE TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE ALL HAVE, AND THAT IS PASSING UP A BOND ON NOVEMBER 7TH SCOOP SYSTEM.

WE HAVE SOME DESPERATE NEEDS OF THE SYSTEM, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND THE BOND FIGURE 1717 MADE $50,000 HAS BEEN SAID, UH, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON WHAT THEY ACTUALLY CAN, UH, CAN PROVIDE WITH THE REVENUES.

EXISTING REVENUES ARE COMING IN IN OTHER WORDS, PAY OFF THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I FIGURE 70 MADE 50,000.

SHE USED NOT COME BACK THERE AND THAT FIGURE REPRESENTS A PART OF OUR PROGRAM.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PROGRAM ON TAP FOR 18 DAYS, $950,000.

WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED 1.9 DAYS FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO PURCHASE LAND AND DEVELOP A SITE FOR NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL.

AND NOW FORWARD AND COMPLETING THAT PROJECT CASE WITH THE PASSING OF A BOMB OF 17 50,000.

AND WE LOOKED AT 18 CREDIT.

I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE 17, EIGHT 50,000 REPRESENTS PART ABOUT WE HAVE 38 OF $8.

THIS HAS BEEN PROVIDED WITH US AND REALLY PUT TOGETHER WITH THE HELP OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION, DIVISION OF PLANNING, THIS COMPREHENSIVE STUDY THAT THEY CAME IN AND DID FOR US.

BUT WHEN WE IDENTIFY PRESSING NEEDS, THOSE THAT COULD BE MET WITH THAT 78,000.

WE WANT TO FOCUS ON SOME MAJOR PRODUCTS FIRST, AND THEN I'M MOVING DOWN TO THIS.

I HAVE ABOUT PROVIDED FOR YOU A PAMPHLET THAT HAS THE PROJECTS FLYER THAT WE WILL CIRCULATE THE MOST IMPORTANTLY, IDENTIFIES THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, WHERE THEY WILL BE BUILT, THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE THINK WE CAN COMPLETE THAT PROJECT.

I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THE STEPS YOU TAKE, WHEN YOU START IDENTIFYING, WHEN YOU WILL COMPLETE A PROJECT, PUT IT ON PAPER AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST.

BUT WE FEEL LIKE THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED, THE LARGE ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, THE VISION PLANNING, OTHERS THAT WERE VERY CLOSE WITH THESE FIGURES AND DAYS, WE WILL NOT KNOW FOR SURE UNTIL WE BUILD THE PRODUCT.

I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU DO THE BID PROCESS.

I HAVE HAD PEOPLE ASK ME, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND BID THE PROJECT.

THEN I WENT TO THE COPS AND WE ALL KNOW THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT.

SO THIS IS OUR BEST SHOT AT PRICE.

AT THE TIME, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET 12% INFLATION AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE VERY, VERY CLOSE.

NOW,

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THE MAJOR PROJECTS, UH, WITHOUT A DOUBT, HALF OFF NEW HOW NEW SCHOOL IS A MAJOR PROJECT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MOVE TO SOMETIME HAVE LOCK IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF SOME SPACE.

WE WROTE THAT AT PRESENT.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE WERE SITTING ON THE EDGE OF EDGE OF OUR CITY WHEN THE BRIGHT KIND OF FIRES TAKING PLACE AND WHETHER OR NOT THE FAA 18 WARRANTS.

WE WANT TO COME TO CHERRY POINT OR NOT.

OBVIOUSLY IF THOSE TIER TWO COULD COME IN AND WE WOULD HAVE REALLY BEEN STRENGTHENED TO TRY TO PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES FOR OUR STUDENTS.

AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHALLENGE THAT A LOT OF FUN, BUT AS IT'S TURNED OUT, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THAT ROUTE.

BUT WITH THE ENROLLMENT THAT WE HAVE AS PRECEDENT, WE NEED TO KNOW MIDDLE SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT WE HAVE NOW AND HAVE, HAS BECOME SO OVERCROWDED THAT WE'VE HAD TO PULL THE SIXTH GRADE OUT AND MOVE THEM TO THE UPPER ELEMENTARY.

WE HAVE SPREAD THE SIXTH GRADE SCHOOL TO HAVE TO DO SO BROUGHT IN TRAILERS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL SAYING THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL CURRICULUM AND I ASKED SCOTT, YOU WERE SET UP FOR GRADE SIX SESSION.

THEN WE MOVE INTO THE ELEMENTARY.

YOU ISOLATE THE SIXTH GRADE.

AND ALSO THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS THEY'RE IN TRAILERS AND CHANGING THE FASTEST MAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO BE IN TRAILERS.

AND OF COURSE, TRAILERS TEMPORARY IN SCHOOL FACILITY, BUSINESS WEEK, IT'S HARD TO BE PROACTIVE.

AND USUALLY WHEN IT COMES TIME TO BUILD SOMETHING, WE HAVE PEOPLE FALL OUT OF THE WINDOWS AND MAKE A VERY BAD SHAPE BEFORE WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT.

I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE SOMEWHAT PROACTIVE IN THIS PARTICULAR ENDEAVOR BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED THE LAND AND OVER 70 ACRES.

AND THE LAND HAS SAID NOT ONLY FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, BUT THAT SITE ALSO CAN BE USED FOR FUTURE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

SO WE'VE ALREADY, UH, BECOME A LITTLE BIT PROACTIVE THERE AND THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD A SITE FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, BUT THE WAY I PLANNED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DOWN ON THE DATE OFFICER IS THERE TO HAVE THE OTHER ELEMENT OF YOUR SCHOOL.

THE EXISTING MIDDLE SCHOOL NEEDS TREMENDOUS RENOVATION.

AND THAT'S WHY I WAS GONE TO ANOTHER MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THE COUNTY WEST PREGNANT.

WE HAVE ABOUT 865 STUDENTS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING FOR NINE YEARS NOW WITH TRAILERS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH.

THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 16 TRUCKS WITH CLASSROOMS NOW AT WESTERN CREDIT TRADERS.

AGAIN, NOT A FREDERICK, A MIDDLE SCHOOL SETTING, NOT MANY REALLY TRUE CLASSROOM SETTING.

AND WE WANT TO GET OUT OF THAT TRAILER SITUATION.

THERE RESTROOM ALSO SCHOOL TO COMPLETE WHAT WE CALL PHASE TWO PHASE ONE, UH, TWO YEARS AGO.

UH, AND THAT WAS TO ADD SEVEN CLASSROOMS AND NEED THE CENTER AND ADMINISTRATIVE AREA THERE RENT SOME SCHOOL.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE STILL CANNOT NOT GET OUT OF THE 1930S.

STILL.

WE STILL HAVE SOME CLASSROOMS IN GROWTH IS STILL MOVING AHEAD IN PRINCETON AREA.

AND I THINK ALL OF Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT.

AND WE HAVE NEEDS THERE FOR 10 MORE CLASSROOMS AND THE CAFETERIA PRESS, MAYBE THE CAFETERIA CAME OUT, CERTAINLY AT SOME SCHOOL, WE HAVE STUDENTS HAVING TO BE IN THE CLASSROOM, THE COSTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE SIZE OF SCHOOL AND THE SMALL CAFETERIA EATING ABOUT 10 O'CLOCK AND THEY FINISH ABOUT TWO 30, GET THEM IN AND OUT.

SO WE WE'RE SERVING KIDS IN THE CLASSROOM TO GET THAT SQUARED.

ALSO, THERE IS A FIELD PASS ON HERE IS FIELD HOUSES, HIGH SCHOOL.

THIS IS REALLY A CARRY OVER IN THE FUTURE BUILDING WHEN WE BUILT DIFFERENT HIGH SCHOOL, UH, WE AND THE FIELD OUT AND PUT ON THAT SCHOOL.

BOY.

SO THEREFORE WHEN THE EXISTING BUILDING NOW IS NOT ACCOMMODATED THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED.

THAT'S THERE FOR ATHLETICS AND PHYSICALLY THE FIELD HOUSE, ACTUALLY AS A LOCKER ROOM DRESSING ROOM SHOWERS, BATHROOM TRAINING AREA, AND THIS IS VERY MUCH NEEDED FOR NEW HOUSE PRESS PLAY.

UH, AT ONE POINT WE HAD TO HAVE A DRESSING IN THE HALL.

WE CONVERTED THE HALLWAYS TO RISK GROUP, UH, THAT WAS NOT REAL, UH, SUCCESSFUL.

AND WE HAD CONVERTED HIS AUTOMOTIVE AREA AT ALMOND, A BODY SHOP AREA TO A DRESSING ROOM.

NOW FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM.

WHEN I SAY FOOTBALL TANK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NINTH GRADE, JV FOOTBALL

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AND VARSITY GOT 150 FOOTBALL PLAYERS, BUT IT ALSO WOULD ACCOMMODATE OTHER SCHOOLS, BUT THAT'S THE MAIN FOCUS THERE ON THE FIELD HOUSE AND THAT PRESENT, THEY ADDRESS IT IN AN AREA THAT HAS JUST TWO BATHROOMS AND ONE SHOT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED IN THE BUILDING IN HOSPITAL.

VERY NICE FACILITY SLAPPING FROM THAT.

I DO WANT TO ADD, BECAUSE I HAVE HAD SOME QUESTIONS TO ASK ABOUT THIS NEWPORT HIGH SCHOOL IS A VERY NICE FACILITY.

ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN IN THE STATE, IT WASN'T NECESSARILY A MENSTRUAL CUP.

IT WAS BASED ON FACT AND POWER EFFICIENCY, HOW EFFICIENT SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS UTILIZED.

ALSO TO NOTE THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE COST PER SQUARE FOOT WAS WITHIN THE STATE AVERAGE.

IT WASN'T SOME LUXURY TYPE OF PROCESS.

THE QUITE FRANTIC THAT WE DID PROCESS B IT'S CAME A LOT HIGHER THAN YOU ANTICIPATED IN THAT PROJECT.

AS WE MOVE DOWN THE LIST WE HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, WE HAVE NEEDS IN THE SYSTEM FOR AIR CONDITIONING AND MANY YEARS AGO, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKED UPON AS A LUXURY, BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY IN THEIR CONDITION SOCIETY AND OUR FACILITIES ARE USED AROUND THE COW.

WE DON'T JUST SHUT DOWN AT CERTAIN TIMES.

LIKE SOME FOLKS TEND TO THINK OF THE TRADITIONAL SCHOOL SCAPE THAT THE GYMNASIUMS IN THE BOTTLE OF SITUATIONS, ARE YOU WAITING ON THAT FLEX AND USE FOR DRUM? WE USED TO ENTERTAIN THE BAND PERFORMANCES MEETINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY SCHOOL MEETINGS.

IT'S A MEETING PLACE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT HAVELOCK AND RICH CREDITOR BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE ALL FOUR IN THIS AREA.

SO, UH, WE WENT TO AIR CONDITION ALL ABOUT DNA, AND THIS WOULD COMPLETE OUR AIR CONDITIONING NEEDS IN PREGNANT CAMP.

NOW I WILL MENTION THAT WE HAVE SOME SCHOOLS THAT ARE AIR CONDITIONING ON AS WELL.

AIR CONDITIONS RELY SCHOOL, TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THE WINDOW AREA WHILE ON THE SAME LINES WHERE IT CAN BE LUCKY FISH PARENTS COULD CAUSE SOME ISSUES AND TO COOK MORE AIR CONDITIONING AND THE HEATING SYSTEM IN THE HEAT AND THE AIR GOING OUT WINDOWS AND DOORS IS NOT VERY BUSINESS.

WE WANT TO UPDATE, BUT WE HAVE SOME THAT IDENTIFIES TOP FRAUD, REPLACE THE WINDOWS AND THE EXTERIOR DOORS COME INTO EFFICIENT .

AND SO THAT'S ON MY LIST, BUT WE PLAN TO CONTINUE THAT IN ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS, ESPECIALLY THAT WE'RE 97, I WILL MENTION TO YOU IN THE MORNING, EACH DAY, NOT VERY LARGE.

NOTICE WHAT WE HAVE IS A TOTAL OF 11, THE ELECTRIC FIELD, THERE RUNS 20,000 HOURS.

UH, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

AND THAT REPEAT IS VERY INEFFICIENT AND WE HAVE PLANS TO NORMALLY EXCHANGE, UH, TAKE CARE OF THE WINDOWS AND DOORS THERE AND STARTED LIVING IN EACH SYSTEM.

HE HAS PLANS, THAT'S KIND OF PROCESS TAKE TAKEN ON THE COST DOLLARS.

WE'LL USE THE COSTS, COULD BE SMITH FOR INSTRUCTIONS CLASS.

AND WE SEE THAT AS A REAL PROBLEM.

WE DO HAVE CONSULTANTS COME IN TO DO A STUDY ABOUT SYSTEM, TO HELP US MANAGE THAT AND START TELLING ME AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.

MOST OF THE GROUPS I'VE SPOKEN WITH HAVE PRETTY MUCH NOT THE HAND IN FRONT OF THE WAY.

WHEN I TALK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY 10 YEARS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT TECHNOLOGY NEEDS AND NEED FOR COMPUTER LAB.

SO PROBABLY LOOK AT THAT AS SOMEWHAT OF, THAT'S NOT THE CASE TODAY.

I THINK MAYBE I DO WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THE KENT SCHOOL SYSTEM IS LOOKED AT AS A LEADER OF TECHNOLOGY IN NORTH CAROLINA, SAD THAT HE HAS.

I THINK WE'RE WAY BEHIND THE TABS.

THE STATE OF TECHNOLOGY NEEDS TO GO WITH CAROLINA AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR SOME RELIEF FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW.

SO FAR, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE KIND OF FUNDING THEY PLAN TO GIVE US TO UPGRADE OUR TECHNOLOGY, BUT FORTUNATELY, LOCAL MONEY THROUGH FEDERAL GRANTS, THROUGH DONATIONS, WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM IN PLACE.

AND THE IMPORTANT THE, WE HAVE THE NUMBER 1 10, 11 CCC, THAT LABS AND ALL THOSE SCHOOLS NEED.

YOU WANT TO

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TOSS ABOUT $150,000 AND IT'S IN 10, 14 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

YOU HAVE PLAN HERE IS TO COMPLETE OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE FOUR OFF EDWARDS ELEMENTARY, YOUR GANG, US ELEMENTARY, AND HAVE JAVIER TO COMPLETE THE CCC LAB UP FROM THERE.

OUR NEXT STEP FROM MY TECHNOLOGY PLAN WILL BE TO START NETWORKING WITHIN THE CLASSROOMS WITH COMPUTERS THAT NEED TO BE IN MOST OF OUR CLASSROOMS. WE'RE ON OUR WAY WITH THAT.

AND WE FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT WHERE WE'RE HEADED ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.

THIS WOULD OBVIOUSLY HELP US CONTINUE FORWARD WITH OUR TECHNOLOGY.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TEAMS. UH, WE HAVE A WHOLE TIME PURPOSE ROOM.

THIS HAS RUINED THE REST OF THE CONCEPT HERE.

ONE THAT WE LIKED A LOT BETTER AT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AS A NEED FOR THAT PURPOSE.

WE CAN'T REALLY GO IN AND BUILD THAT BECAUSE WE HAD THAT DEED IN THE NUMBERS SCHOOLS, QUITE FRANKLY, BUT AT VANGUARD, THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE A PLACE IN FISCAL EDUCATION.

WHEN IT RAINS, IT'S EXTREMELY COLD OUTSIDE.

THEY'RE IN THE HALLWAY.

WE KNOW THAT'S NOT VERY CONDUCIVE TO PHYSICAL EDUCATION INSTRUCTION THAT THESE TAKE PLACE IN AN ADJOINING CLASSROOM, ALL THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IS A CAFETERIA THAT CAN BE USED AT TIMES.

WELL, THE FOLKS ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AT THIS POINT, ABOUT 48 HOURS, YOU GO TO A BANK AND WE HAVE INDICATED THAT WE WANT TO BE PART TO THAT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MATCH THAT BUILDING TO THIS BOND THAT BONDS PASSED ON NOVEMBER 7TH.

AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SECURE THE FUNDING TO HELP MAX THEIR MONEY, TO BUILD THAT MOAT.

THAT'S VERY AMERICAN CONCEPT.

YOU DO PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THAT.

IT MAKES IT VERY OBVIOUS THAT THE REST OF OUR NEEDS, THAT YOU HAVE THE LIST THAT WE HAVE REALLY WHAT WE'LL CALL CAP REPLACEMENT TAKE PLACE AT JETTY BARBARA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT, UH, REALLY A PLAN IN PLACE THREE YEARS AGO, THE DEBT FUNDS WE'VE BEEN PATCHING ALL ALONG.

AND I CAN TELL YOU WHEN THE BALL GOES OUT AND IN TIME, BAD TIMES, AND IT HAS DONE THAT SYSTEM, AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE EFFICIENT SYSTEM.

UH, I MENTIONED THE DOORS AND WINDOWS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND OUR SCHOOLS ALSO ELECTRICAL UPGRADES SEEMS LIKE WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN EDUCATION TODAY, ALEX, ABOUT IT IN A WAY YOU LOOK AND YOU SAW, WE HAVE SOME OVERHEAD PROJECTOR, VCR CALCULATORS.

AND SO WE ARE VERY MUCH DEPENDENT UPON ELECTRICITY AT SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY THERE FROM 1970.

WE DON'T EVEN COME CLOSE BY THAT, BUT WE HAVE SOME SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A BREAK AND ELECTRICAL PANELS, BEING ABLE TO UPGRADE THEIR ABUSES THERE IN THE ANNUAL WEATHER AT MAXIMUM.

LET, SO TAKE CARE OF THAT, BUT ALSO TELL YOU, WE HAVE OTHERS TOO.

THESE ARE TOP PLAYERS.

THAT CONTINUES TO BE AN ONGOING STORY.

FORTUNATELY, WE'VE HAD A TERRIFIC DIRECTOR OF MAINTENANCE WHO BELIEVES IN SOLVING THE PROBLEMS THAT FREEDOM CENTERS WE HAVE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. AND WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THIS KIND OF ATTENTION.

ALSO TASK ACTIVITY, NEWPORT COSCO IN 1989 IN 1991, THAT SUPERINTENDENT, THEY WERE RUNNING 17 SCHOOLS.

WELL, QUITE FRANKLY, WE BELIEVE THAT WE COULD OFFER A LOT MORE THAN THAT AND SHOULD LEAD THAT STUDENTS NEED TO BE INVOLVED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

WE PUSHED IT TO WITH THE TOP SCHOOL ATHLETICS, BUT EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, WHETHER IT BE BAND, DRILL TEAMS, CHEERLEADING CLUBS.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WE WANTED THEM TO OFFER ME WHEN WE ADDED, UH, TRACKING FOR YOUR BOYS AND GIRLS SOCCER, BOYS AND GIRLS DRESS BOUGHT IT OFF, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE NOW NEWBORN HIGH SCHOOL, FOR INSTANCE, THEY HAVE ABOUT 33 TO 34 SCHOOLS THAT THESE A LOT OF KIDS ARE PARTICIPATING.

WHAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT IS THAT'S A COST.

WE HAVE TO HOWEVER COACHES THAT

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NEED ACTIVITY BUSES.

AND SO HERE WE HAVE THREE ACTIVITY VEINS PLUGGED INTO DESK, PUT ONE AT EACH HOSPITAL TO HELP TAKE CARE OF THAT.

AND ALSO TO HELP WITH THE FIELD TRIPS THAT GO OFF IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

AND, UH, ALSO WE HAVE, UH, COFFEE MACHINES THAT THEY REPLACED.

WE HAVE ABOUT $126,000 SET ASIDE TO REPLACE COPPER MACHINES.

WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD REPAIR SYSTEM GOING ON AND CRAIG 13, 15 YEARS OLD.

UH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US, NOT.

SO IT'S VERY COSTLY TO OPERATE.

THE NEWER MACHINES ARE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND WE JUST HAVE TERRIFIC.

THEY APPEAR PLACEMENT OF FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT.

AND, UH, THE SYSTEM HAS GROWN WHERE WE ARE IN 14,670.

THAT'S A LOT OF SCHOOLS.

WE'RE THE 17TH LARGEST SCHOOL SYSTEM IN NORTH CAROLINA.

AND WE'RE GROWING ON THAT.

YOU'VE GOT TO THEM, THE STUDENTS VIEW THAT GROWTH BRINGS HOME A LOT.

YOU START ADDING CLASSROOMS IN FRONT OF YOU.

SO WHERE OUR EQUIPMENT THAT'S PLUGGED INTO THIS AS WELL.

AND OF COURSE OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE TO THE NEEDS OF THE SYSTEM, LARGE BY NUMBER, BUT THIS LORE BARS COUNTY ONE AND 2 82 MILES.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT WALK IS WORKING EXTREMELY HARD TO COVER ALL THE BASES AND WE NEED A DUMP TRUCK AND TO SEARCH TRUCKS.

WHAT MATTERS WHEN WE TELL ALL THAT OUT, IT COMES UP TO 18 MILLION, $950,000 GANDER.

REMEMBER WE ALREADY HAVE MILLION 900,000.

SO I FARM 78, 50,000 MILES.

WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THIS KIND OF FIGURES, OPPOSITE OF WHAT COMES TO MIND, I'M SURE IT'S HOW DO WE EDIT THAT BACK? WELL, THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY VIDEO WHATSOEVER TO INCREASE PROPERTY TAX.

IN FACT, THAT FIGURE 17, EIGHT 50,000 BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT COULD BE REPAID WITH THE USE OF EXISTING REVENUES WITHOUT INCREASING THE PROPERTY TAX.

WE HAVE TWO SALES TAX INCREMENTS, ONE THAT CAME IN 1983 TO A HALF CENT SALES TAX, WHERE 30% OF THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION IN 1986 AND NEVER HAS TO SALES TAX WAS DESIGNATED WITH 60% OF THAT ASS GOING TO SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION.

THE TWO OF THOSE COMBINED BRINGS IN ABOUT 2.4 MILLION ALONG WITH MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE, THOSE REVENUES SHOOT MORE THAN WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF REPAYING A 20 YEAR MOM.

AND SO THOSE ARE CORRECTLY SET ASIDE TO PAY FOR THE BOND.

AND WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE WHATSOEVER TO HAVE TO INCREASE.

I DO WANT TO SAY THIS, THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMY IS DOING SOME PROJECTIONS, BUT ANYTHING HAPPENED.

I DON'T EVEN LIKE TO SAY THIS, BUT IT WASN'T TOO LONG AGO.

WE HAD DESERT STORM AND DESERT STORM.

HE CREDIT CANON SAYS THE REVENUES WENT DOWN.

SO YOU GUYS TO SALES STAFF.

UM, SO IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT SHOULD HAPPEN, OBVIOUSLY THE CHARACTER MEASURES THAT WOULD DEVELOP THE RESOURCES THEY OFFER BECAUSE THEY'RE OBLIGATED TO DO SO.

AND ONE OF THOSE COLLABORATIVES, IF YOU WILL, WOULD BE PROPERTY TAX, AGAIN, BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

AND IF WE REFLECT BACK TO THE BOND THAT WE HAD A 19 88 89, THAT WAS STATED THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, IT WILL BE PAID OFF WITH THE SALES TAX.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, THAT HELD TO BE TRUE.

IT'S NOT PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.

IN FACT, WE CAN'T COMMISSION.

IT JUST REDUCE THE PROPERTY TAX OPINION IN HALF.

SO WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT THESE REVENUES ARE TAKEN CARE OF WELL, I CAN SHOW YOU SEPARATE, I'M DOING THIS BECAUSE LAST TIME WE HAD A BOND REFERENDUM, SOME PEOPLE FELT LIKE A NEW TRICK AND MOVE IN BECAUSE WE TOLD THEM THERE WOULD NOT BE A TAX INCREASE.

AND WHEN HE WENT IN THE POOL, YES, UH, STATES IN HERE THAT, THAT ACTUALLY ATTACKS, WOULD WE BED A BOMB? THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THOSE WORDS SAY THAT THE TAX WOULD BE LED BY LAW.

THEY HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE TAX IS

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THE BASIS FOR THE BOND.

AND I WANT TO SHARE IT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE IN ABOUT, AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY THINKING NEW TRICK THAT'S BY LAW.

I'LL ALL THAT HAS TO BE IN THEIR WORD.

THAT MEANT NOW, OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU GO DOWN THAT LIST, HUMAN NATURE KICKS IN AND THEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S IN IT.

FOR ME, LET'S SAY THERE'S WHERE MY CHILD IS JUST WITH MY GRANDCHILD.

THIS IS WHERE I TEACH WHATEVER.

UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS ON THAT SHEET DID ADDRESS NEEDS AND COUNTY WHY, BUT WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME.

AND FOR US, IT'S MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT.

AND THE BONDS PASSED ON NOVEMBER 7TH AND WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THESE ITEMS. OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAVE THAT NEED TO GRASP WILL MOVE UP AND MOVE UP TO BE ADDRESSED WITH MAINTENANCE PHONES, BUT FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNTY AND STATE.

SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OTHER NEEDS THAT AREN'T LISTED IN THE BOND OR FRIEND.

BUT THE OTHER KEY POINT THAT I WANT TO GET ACROSS IS THIS BOND IS NOT FOR NEWBURG.

IT ISN'T FOR HAVELOCK.

AND IT ISN'T FOR WEST CRAVEN, DOVER POSTED EVENTS FOR THEM.

SO THEY STILL CRAVE AT CAMP.

IT'S FULL OF KIDS WHO ARE HERE NOW, AND THE KIDS WHO WANT TO BE COMING INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

IT'S FOR THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE HERE BECAUSE RESEARCH INDICATES THAT 75% OF HIGH SCHOOL GRADS WITHIN FIVE, SEVEN YEARS COME BACK TO THAT SYSTEM OR SURROUNDING AREA.

THAT'S PRETTY POWERFUL.

SO IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO UPGRADE OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO UPGRADE THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY LIVE IN.

AND SO REALLY WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME, AS I THINK NORMALLY A BETTER SCHOOL SYSTEM, BETTER, BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.

WE ARE ALL GOING TO GET A PLACE TO LIVE.

PREDATOR COUNTY IS A FANTASTIC PLACE TO LIVE.

IT'S THE BEST RECRUITING TOOL.

I HAVE GO OUT TRYING TO RECRUIT TEACHERS.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'VE HEARD ABOUT PRIVATE CAMP AND THEY WANT TO LIVE HERE.

AND THAT'S A BIG DRAW.

IT'S BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF, SLIDE AND CALL THE PEOPLE WE LONG BEFORE YOU DECIDED THAT WE WANT A MODEL SCHOOL SYSTEM.

WE WANT QUALITY AND THEY PUT THINGS IN PLACE LONG AGO.

THAT'S ENABLED US TO GET THE DISCIPLINE AND THAT'S, WHAT'S REALLY IN IT FOR US AT THIS POINT.

I WOULD LIKE TO JUST KIND OF LOOKING IT UP.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, , DIDN'T WANT TO POINT OUT, I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, CITY MANAGER, 10 HOUR PRESENTATION YESTERDAY.

I APPRECIATE YOU BEING THERE AND ALSO TO SIT IN WITH A STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

AND WHAT'S GOING ON IN CANADA, READING SOMEWHERE ABOUT, UH, THE ISSUE OF GOVERNOR HUNT'S PROPOSED MONEY FOR THE, ALL THE SCHOOLS IN NORTH CAROLINA, KIND OF EFFECT THAT, HEY, KEVIN, WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO WITH THAT GREAT GUYS.

EXCELLENT QUESTION.

IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, UH, THIS PAST SESSION, THE HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES, REPRESENTATIVES LOOKED AT POSSIBLE BILL TO HELP ADDRESS THE UNBELIEVABLE SOME OF THE NEEDS OF NORTH CAROLINA THEY INTRODUCED, OR THEY WERE LOOKING AT, I SHOULD PUT IT A BILL FOR $500 MILLION.

THAT WOULD BE APPLIED STATEWIDE PONDER.

WHEN IT GOT TO THE SENATE, THE SENATE THAT DAY DECIDED THAT THEY THINK IT SHOULD BE AROUND $1.8 BILLION.

IT SHOULD BE A STATE.

AND WHAT'S INTERESTING HERE IS THE LANGUAGE THEY USE IN THIS PROCESS.

AND IF THEY DID, IF IT WAS PASSED FOR A STATE BOND REFERENDUM, WHICH THEN FOLKS WOULD VOTE ON HOW WOULD IT BE IMPLEMENTED? BOTH LOOKED AT A MATCHING CONCEPT.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE BOND PASSED STATEWIDE, THEY WEREN'T JUST GOING TO COME IN AND SAY, OKAY, CRAIG, YOU KNOW, YOU'D GET $25 MILLION.

IT WAS, IT WAS GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN A MATCHING TYPE PROCESS.

IN OTHER WORDS, BASED ON WHAT YOU NEED TALK, YOU WOULD QUALIFY FOR $25 MILLION, BUT YOU HAVE TO MATCH 25%, WHATEVER IT SEEMS TO PUT IT IN THAT NO ONE THAT FOLKS LIKE US, WE'RE LOOKING AT RONALD REFERENDUMS AND OTHERS HAD ALREADY STARTED DOING PROGRAMS. AND HONESTLY, I'VE JUST PASSED THE $40 MILLION BOND REFERENDUM.

THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT AT LEAST GOING BACK THREE YEARS TO LOOK AT WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE AND THEN TO APPLY TO THAT.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD GO ABOUT THAT.

WHAT WE DO WITH ENHANCE OPPORTUNITY TO GET MONEY FROM STATE ON AGAIN, THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT OUT AND IT PROBABLY WILL COME UP AGAIN, SHORT SESSION, BUT IF IT'S PASSED

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IN THE STATE AND IT'S VOTED ON BY THE TIME ALL THAT TAKES PLACE, AND I'M GOING TO BE OPTIMISTIC AND SAY THAT IT WOULD GET VOTED ON PROBABLY STILL TWO, THREE YEARS AWAY FROM RECEIVING THE MONEY.

BUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, WE WILL APPLY TO THAT MATCHING.

I THINK WE'D BE INTERESTED IN SHIT.

OKAY.

I RIGHT.

SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO INCREASE SALES TAX REVENUE, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE COUNTY THAT IN FACT YOUR POSITION TO PAY BACK, THESE BONDS OUGHT TO BE MUCH BETTER THAN WORST CASE, WHICH YOU'RE NOT EVEN ALLOWING FOR ANY EXPANSION.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE ARE NOT IN BETTER POSITION, THE SCHOOL BOND WILL BE LASTED.

MY WORRY IS THAT WHAT THING? IN OTHER WORDS, WE WILL BE GOING DOWN THE TUBES, ALL OF US.

WELL, SO THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER AS FAR AS PAYING THEM BACK.

WELL, I WILL TELL YOU THIS, MR. MAY, IF YOU HAVE A 13 YEAR OLD IN SCHOOL, YOU'VE GOT TO FAIL.

ONE OF WE'RE HAVING TO PAY OUT.

NOW, YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE SALES TAX.

SHE'S ABOUT TO BREAK ME, RIGHT? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU? WELL, WE USED TO SERVE AND SAMPLE SCHOOL WITH NO, NO AIR CONDITIONING.

AND THEN THERE'S OLD PLANK AND RADIATORS, AND THEN THE PLASTER FALLING OUT OF THE CEILING ON YOUR HEAD, BUT THOSE DAYS ARE GONE AND I WOULDN'T WISH THAT ON ANYBODY.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, I BET OUT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I'VE BEEN REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE FACILITY.

WHAT I'VE BEEN MORE IMPRESSED WITH IS THE FACT THAT IT SEEMS TO BE STAYING IN GOOD SHAPE.

AND THAT TELLS ME THAT IT MUST BE SOME GOOD DISCIPLINE AND SOME OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN THERE.

AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU SEE HAPPENING IN THE COUNTRY.

SO I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ON THAT.

AND OUR POLICEMEN'S OVER THERE TOO.

THAT'S THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE JOB.

I THINK WE SEE THAT THE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION PRETTY STRONG STAND FOR YEARS AGO, VERY COMPREHENSIVE DISCIPLINE POLICY AND ATTENDANCE.

ONE AT A TIME WHEN IT WAS INTRODUCED, SHOOK A LOT OF CAGES, SO TO SPEAK, AND IT WAS TOUGH.

IT WAS TOUGH TIMES CHANGE WHILE I WAS PREVIOUSLY A LAB, I CAN TELL YOU PROUD THAT OUR DISCIPLINE POLICIES AND ATTENDANCE POLICIES WERE USED IN MANY OTHER SCHOOL SYSTEMS. AND WE CAN USE AS A MODEL FOR THAT.

I FIRST DECIDED THAT DISCIPLINE WAS APPARENTLY SAFE SCHOOLS, SCHOOL GROUNDS, OR SACRED DRINK EVERYTHING WE CAN AND GET TO THAT.

AND YOU HAVE BEEN BIG HAIL YOUR ASSISTANCE A FEW YEARS AGO ABOUT A RESOURCE OFFICER AND OTHER COST TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

IT WAS A SHOP MOM.

NOW I'M THE HAPPY RESOURCE OFFICER, BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THE OFFICER'S IMPORTANT PERSONS EXTREMELY POWERFUL, SO THAT SURELY ENHANCE THAT QUITE A BIT.

AND, UH, THIS YEAR WE HAD AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION IN THE GRANT PROCESS AND WE COULD NOT GET FUNDED THAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR THE COUNTY.

AND, UH, AND CINDY TOOK THE GRANT, REWROTE IT, AND YOU WERE ABLE TO PUT IN THAT THOUSAND $500 FOR THIS YEAR TO ALLOW THAT RESOURCE OFFICER TO DO THAT AND DIDN'T HAVE SCHOOL, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT IN WEST CRESCENT, PATOIS, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS, THEY'RE WORKING HARD AND PROVIDING SOMEBODY IN THE AFTERNOON THERE.

AND IT'S NOT THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE HAVING ALL THESE PROBLEMS, BUT IT'S, IT'S A POINT OF COMFORT.

IT'S A POINT OF SECURITY, KNOWING THAT YOU HAD THESE FOLKS AROUND THAT IT SURE MAKES YOU FEEL A LITTLE BETTER ABOUT WHAT YOUR CHILDREN ARE GOING TO SCHOOL.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, AND THE LEAVING SCHOOL SEEMS TO BE NARRATIVE.

THAT'S HARD TO SUPERVISE AND HAVING LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THOSE AREAS HAVE BEEN LESS, BUT SEE, NEWMAN HAS BEEN VERY GOOD TO US.

THAT POINT OF VIEW.

I KNOW THERE'LL BE PEOPLE WHO APPRECIATE IT.

I'VE HEARD THAT COMMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO MADE IT AND THEN TO HAVE A POLICE OFFICER AT SCHOOL MIGHT BE SOME INDICATION THAT THE, YOU KNOW, PLACEMENT IS NEEDED.

AND I COULDN'T REALLY FOLLOW THAT LOGIC BECAUSE I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, I GOT A POLIO SHOT WHEN I WAS A KID, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE POLIO, NOT BECAUSE I HAD BULLYING, I WANTED TO PREVENT POLIO.

SO I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THE POLICE.

I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS EVER SINCE MY KIDS WENT TO SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE AND THAT WASN'T YESTERDAY, BUT, UH, AS GROWNUPS, WE MORE OR LESS HAVE THE CHOICE TO ASSOCIATE WITH WHO WE WANT TO.

AND MY LAD, I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY IS A CROWN OR A THUG OR A BULLY OR WHATEVER, WE CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT OUR KID DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A CHOICE.

IN FACT, THE LAW REQUIRES THEM TO GO TO SCHOOL AND WE HAVE TO PUT THEM IN THERE SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY IN THE PAST WITH PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HAD

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HAD RECORDS, YOU KNOW, HAD BEEN IN JAIL, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

AND THAT WAS A SAD SITUATION.

I'M GLAD TO SEE IT, MY OPINION IN A WAY THAT HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND I DO FEEL LIKE THE SCHOOLS ARE NOW BECOMING A SAFE PLACE, A SAFE HOUSE, AGAIN, LIKE IT OUGHT TO BE.

AND ANYTHING WE DO TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT AND MY OPINION IS TO DO WRONG SO THAT YOU MAX ON THERE.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING FREEZE.

YEAH, I CAN'T, I WILL START OFF BY SAYING I FAVORED THE BOND ISSUE.

UM, I, I REALLY FEEL WE NEED ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH.

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO, BUT PROVIDE THE FACILITIES FOR THE KIDS.

I STARTED LAST YEAR TEACHING AT EIGHT SHAMAN, DONALD'S A SUBSTITUTE.

AND SO I HAVE A VERY CLOSE UP AND PERSONAL LIFE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

AT LEAST THAT SCHOOL AND REGISTERED IN TO TEACH HIGH SCHOOL MULTIPLE THIS YEAR, EVERYTHING FROM SHOP TO THE BAND, MATH, ENGLISH SCIENCE, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.

AND I THINK THAT EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL SHOULD SPEND A DAY OR TWO TEACHING IN THE CLASSROOM WITHOUT THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION KNOWING THEY'RE THERE.

SO THEY CAN'T BE LED TO ANY PARTICULAR CLASSROOM BECAUSE IT GETS KIND OF SCARY.

AND THE HEATING SYSTEM, THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM, HJ MCDONALD'S HARDLY DESERVE THAT TITLE.

AND THEY DO NOT WORK THAT WELL.

YOU USE THE PHRASE UNMET NEEDS.

THAT PHRASE ALWAYS SCARES ME.

I'M AN OLD FRIEND OF MINE.

UH, DAY AND NIGHT.

IT WAS ON THE BOARD OF ALTIMA CITY BOARD IN FAYETTEVILLE.

HE USED TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF SOMEONE WERE TO GIVE THE CITY OF FAYETTEVILLE, $500 MILLION, THEY COULD SPEND IT ALL.

AND IN SIX MONTHS PEOPLE WOULD BE APPEARING BEFORE THEY BEGAN TALKING ABOUT UNMET NEEDS.

SO YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE ON MET NEEDS.

YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO MEET ALL THE NEEDS THAT, UH, PEOPLE CAN COME UP WITH.

I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE EMPHASIS AND THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO REALLY DIRECTLY WITH YOUR BOND ISSUE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE EMPHASIS PLACED ON THE PERSONNEL THAN BUILDINGS, REALLY, BECAUSE A GOOD TEACHER CAN TEACH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SOYBEAN FIELD AND A BAD TEACHER CAN'T TEACH.

IF YOU TURN THE LOOSE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA, I KNOW THE FACILITIES ARE IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK THEY'RE SECONDARY TO THE PERSONNEL THAT YOU HAVE IN THOSE CLASSROOMS. I HAVE MET SOME WONDERFUL PEOPLE IN EXTREMELY DOMINANT.

THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB OVER THERE, BUT I HAVE ALSO HAD TO HAVE KIDS SHARING BOOKS BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TEXTBOOKS THERE FOR THEM.

THAT KIND OF THING SCARES ME.

HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO YOUR CRYSTAL BALL AND ANTICIPATED WHAT IT MIGHT DO TO YOUR ANNUAL BUDGET? WHEN YOU HIRE THE INITIAL TEACHERS, YOU MUST PLAN ON HIRING TO FILL THESE ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS. WHAT IS YOUR FUTURE BUDGET GOING TO, WHAT HOW'S THIS GOING TO AFFECT YOUR FUTURE BUDGET? WELL, LET ME TELL YOU THAT ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS, THESE CLASSROOMS WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF WITH PERSONNEL THAT WE CAN HAVE.

THERE'LL BE SOME, BUT NOT, NOT THAT MUCH.

WE ARE, WE REALLY ARE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FASHION.

NOW, THE CRYSTAL BALL BASICALLY LIES IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE PHILOSOPHY IS THE STATE.

AND I SAY THE STATE HEALTH INSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS LEGISLATIVE TOOLS IS TO REDUCE CLASS SIZE.

SO IN REDUCING CLASS SIZES FOR SAFETY THIS YEAR, UH, THEY REDUCED IT FROM FIRST GRADE, KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE OR ONE TEACHER, 23 STUDENTS, UH, THAT CREATES MORE CLASSROOMS. SO WE KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT, UH, AS FAR AS HOW WE PAY FOR THE PERSONNEL, IF WE HAVE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS, THE STATE PROVIDES TEACHER CERTIFIED TEACHER.

SO THE WAY THAT WORKS, THOUGH, THE THREE PACKAGES THAT YOU GET 26 KIDS, WELL, I'LL TAKE THE KINDERGARTEN, YOU GET 23 STUDENTS, YOU GET A TEACHER, WE HAVE FIVE OR SIX OR SEVEN, THEN WE'LL QUALIFY FOR THE TEACHERS.

SO THERE'S, WE'LL GET INTO THE LOCAL.

SO TIME TO KEEP US FROM HAVING COMBINATIONS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE A KINDERGARTEN SET UP.

SOME WE'LL HAVE 15, 16 STUDENTS, NO, WE'LL HAVE 21, 22 STUDENTS.

THEY DON'T COME AND DO PACKAGES OF 23 2.

AND THAT FLEXIBILITY THAT'S WHERE LOCAL MONEY COMES IN.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE TRY TO KEEP OUT.

AS FAR AS THE FUNDING PERSONNEL, THE LARGE PART OF THAT COMES FROM THE STATE.

IT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT YOU HAVE.

SO YOU DON'T THINK THE LOCAL SUPPLEMENT IS GOING TO AMOUNT TO THAT.

OKAY.

WELL, LIKE I SAY, I HAVE THE HIGHEST REGARD FOR THE TEACHERS WITH WHOM I'VE COME INTO CONTACT AT HJ AS A WONDERFUL GROUP OF PEOPLE.

AND I THINK EACH ONE OF THEM SHOULD BE ISSUED THREE THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, A MEDAL OF HONOR FOR BEING THERE.

AND NUMBER TWO, AND NUMBER THREE IS A WHIP AND A CHAIR BECAUSE SOMETIMES JUNIOR HIGH STUDENTS CAN GET A LITTLE WHILE

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AND THAT WHIP AND CHAIR EDDIE WARD.

AND HE, WASN'T NOT PROBABLY LIKE THAT.

AND I KNOW DAVID TENNYSON, YOU BETTER BE TAMING LINES.

ARMY JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

IT'S A LIVELY, A USHER SCHOOL SO I CAN SHOW IT.

UM, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO TELL YOU AND I WANT TO LEAVE WITH, YEAH, WE GOT SOME MORE QUESTIONS.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I JUST WANT SOME CLARIFICATION ON A POINT YOU RAISED EARLIER, YOU INDICATED THAT ON THE BALLOT FOR THIS ISSUE, THERE WOULD BE A SENTENCE READING THAT ATTACKS WOULD BE LE WOULD BE LEVERED IN ORDER TO PAY THIS BOND BACK.

BUT THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD NOT IN FACT INCREASE THE TAXES, BUT THE PURPOSE FOR THAT SENTENCE TO ENABLE THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO LEVY ATTACKS, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE WAS SOME, UH, BUDGET CONSTRAINTS THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM PAN A, FOR THE OBAN OUT OF GENERAL, GENERAL FUNDS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT SENTENCE, MS. RANIER, EXACTLY THAT THAT ALLOWS THEM.

IF THEY HAVE TO INCREASE PROPERTY TAX, THEY CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE KOCIDE AND THE NIGHT YOU DON'T REALLY INTEND TO PAY IT BACK.

BUT IF THE OTHER GUY DEAD, SOMEBODY IS PAYING IT BACK, I STAY ASLEEP.

THAT'S WHEN THE BOND ISSUE AND COME AND WANTS THEM THERE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH, I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION.

OKAY.

ONE INTERESTING THING THAT YOU POINTED OUT, I'D NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

CAUSE I DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT IT.

I GUESS THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION BUSINESS AS SUCH, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND RECRUIT TEACHERS SAY THE INTERESTING THING IS FOOTBALL COACHES AND WE'RE JUST ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE.

BUT AT HOSPITALS I'VE HEARD THEM SAY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A NICE HOSPITAL AND FACILITY TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT FIRST-CLASS DOCS.

AND IF IN FACT YOU DO HAVE TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT TEACHERS.

I COULD SEE WHERE A BENEFIT THAT'S NOT LISTED ON YOUR PRESENTATION WOULD BE A HIGHER QUALITY OF TEACHER OVER TIME.

IF YOU HAVE ABOUT A FACILITY.

AND THAT ANSWERS PART OF WHAT MAX IS CONCERNED WAS AS FAR AS INCREASING THE LEVEL OF TEACHERS, IF THAT BE TRUE IS YOU HAVE TO RECRUIT.

THAT WAS, IT MAKES SENSE THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME TO A NICER PLACE AND THEY DO THE TEACHING.

THAT MEAN FOR YOU.

EXCELLENT POINT, AND NOT JUST FROM A FACILITY POINT OF VIEW, BUT OBSTACLES TEACHER LOVES THE IDEA OF COMING INTO A WORLD HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING.

SO I'LL TELL YOU ANOTHER POINT TOO, IS THOSE WHO BOND IS PASSED.

IT'S A BOOK FOR EDUCATION.

IT'S A SIGNAL THAT COMMUNITY IS BEHIND THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AND PEOPLE WANT TO WORK FOR A SCHOOL SYSTEM IN THIS CASE OR COUNTY WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEHIND INSTEAD OF NOT BEHIND.

AND IT SENDS OUT A VERY POWERFUL TO ME COMMITMENT THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS TRUE PUTTING EDUCATION FIRST.

AND THAT IS A STRONG TOOL.

AND I THINK ALONG THE LINES, MAYOR, WHAT YOU SAID, THAT LEADS ME TO THAT COMMENT.

YES.

THIS WILL SURELY ENTICE FOLKS TO COME HERE AND WORK, BUT WHAT KEEPS THEM HERE IF JOB DANNY, UH, TYPE APPROACHES AND THE JOB, KEEPING THEM, KEEPING FOLKS HERE REALLY IS A SUPPORT THAT THEY GET FROM COMMUNITY WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE.

AND I THINK THAT OBVIOUSLY THE BOND IS BIGGER THAN TO ME.

IT'S MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT WE WILL GET ON HIS OWN.

THIS PIECE OF PAPER THAT YOU HAVE.

IT'S A STRONG COMMITMENT TO QUALITY EDUCATION TRAINING.

WELL, I'VE HEARD MANY TIMES INDUSTRIAL PROSPECTS WANT TO COME INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE CRAVEN COUNTY, WHATEVER PHYSICALLY WANT TO GO TO LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS YESTERDAY OR THEIR KIDS AND ALL THAT OTHER TYPE OF TIME.

THEY WANT TO SEE US.

SO THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAN JUST APPEARS TO BE BRICKS AND MORTAR.

ANYWAY, I LEFT EDUCATION FOR AWHILE IN THE DRUG BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY AND PART OF THE JOB THAT I HAD WITH RECRUITING MANAGEMENT PERSONNEL, WHICH WAS INTERESTING.

AND I GOT THERE REALLY ALL OVER NORTH, UH, UNITED STATES.

AND, UM, WELL, UH, WHAT WOULD COME UP IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS WOULD BE, I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE EDUCATION SYSTEM, PREGNANT CAMERON, NORTH CRAIG AND KIM.

I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT HEALTHCARE HOSPITALS.

I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT POLICE DEPARTMENTS WANT TO KNOW ABOUT RECREATION.

IT WAS AMAZING.

THE SAME QUESTION WOULD COME UP, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THAT EDUCATION WOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE NUMBER TWO, NINE TIMES OUT 10 OF THOSE FOLKS REALIZE THE VALUE OF A QUALITY EDUCATION SYSTEM.

WHAT ABOUT DOING ME ONE MORE FAVOR AS AN EDUCATOR? YES, SIR.

I AM SO REVOLTED

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FATIGUED AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I'M SORT OF PROUD OF MY AREA AND MY STATE I CAME FROM AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND I'M, AND I'M SORT OF TIRED OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND BASIC SIMPLE MATH ASKING ME WHY NORTH CAROLINA IS 48 AND THE SAT SCORES WHEN IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING IS SAYING, IF WE TOOK THE HEIGHT OF EVERY MAN IN THIS ROOM AND DIVIDED IT BY THE NUMBER OF MEN AND THEREFORE FOUND THE AVERAGE HEIGHT OF EVERY MAN IN THIS ROOM AND THEN JUST TO PENDLETON AND IS THAT ON THE END AND ONE, ALL THE TALL GUY AND AVERAGE THOSE THREE, IT'S A G YOU KNOW, THESE THREE HAVE A WHOLE LOT HIGHER AVERAGE THAN THE REST OF THE ROOM.

AND YET WE ALL CAME TO THE SAME ROOM AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

THOSE LITTLE, THOSE STATES THAT TAKE THE TOP, THE TOP 10 OR 15% AND AVERAGE THOSE.

AND WE TAKE THE GREAT MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR STATE WHO HAVE TO TAKE THE SAT, YOU KNOW, THE LARGE MAJORITY, EVEN BACK WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL.

AND, UH, THAT'S NOT EVEN, I MEAN, YOU TALK ABOUT THE CLASSIC APPLES AND ORANGES COMPARISON, ANYBODY THAT GOT PAST THIRD GRADE MATH, NOBODY EVEN COMPARE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

AND I FIND MYSELF IN THE POSITION OF HAVING TO DEFEND THE FACT THAT WE'RE 48.

WHAT IF SOMEBODY ASKS YOU TO DEFEND THAT QUESTION, THEN THEY, YOU MIGHT AS WELL.

YOU'RE JUST WASTING YOUR TIME TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT.

I MIGHT AS WELL MOVE ON.

JUST SO HAPPENED.

I CAN GET ON MY SOAPBOX.

YEAH, I MAY HAVE DONE SERIOUSLY.

THAT IS A BIG PROP.

AND IT'S AN INSULT TO, I THINK OUR INTELLIGENCE ABSOLUTELY HANGING THE HAMLETS RANKING BUSINESS.

UH, WE COULD EASILY PLAY SOME STATISTICS AND SHOW YOU WHERE WE'D BE, BUT TO BE COMPARED WITH OTHER STATES THAT ARE PLAYING BY THE SAME RULES IS REALLY UNREAL.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF A NATIONAL TEST.

I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL IF EVERYONE IS FOLLOWING THE SAME GUIDELINES.

AND IF EVERYBODY TAKES THE TEST AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF COMPETITION, I LOVE THAT IDEA.

I LIKED HIM, SAME PLAYING FIELD BEST CAN YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD, THE TOP PERCENTAGE OUT OF THOSE TOP TEAMS, 13%, IT TOOK THE SOT.

NOW I MADE A LITTLE PHONE CALL LAST YEAR TO I WILL BECAUSE I DIDN'T NUMBER ONE AND TALK WITH A NUMBER OF FOLKS.

AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THOSE WERE TAKEN THE SAT OR COMING TO NORTH CAROLINA OR COMING TO THE EAST WHERE THE SCHOOLS REQUIRE THE SAT.

THEY TAKE THE AC TO.

I LOOKED AT OUR ACT TEST.

WE HAD 53 STUDENTS TO TAKE THE ACT AND CRAIG AND KAREN, THEY WERE WELL ABOVE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, BUT LET'S TAKE ANOTHER STEP TO CODE.

THEIR AVERAGE SCORE WAS 11 OR SEVEN.

NOW I CAN'T REALLY WRITE DOWN NORTH CAROLINA BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS.

BUT NORTH CAROLINA, 60% TOOK THE SAT.

65, 19 OF 48 CREDIT.

I CAN BREAK THAT DOWN.

53% OF OUR FOLKS TOOK THE SAT SCORE, 85, 20 POINTS OUT OF THE STATE.

BUT WHAT DID THE TOP 13% OF THE POPULATION SCHOOL? UH, 12, 14, 50% OF OUR STUDENTS WHO TOOK THE SAT SCORE A THOUSAND FOR NOW.

THAT'S GETTING MORE.

WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO AFTER THAT.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT REPORTED OUT, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT IT.

BASED ON THE HOUSE.

SAT SCORES IS 8 85.

UH, BLACK STUDENTS SCORE.

THE SECOND HAS SAT SCHOOLS IN NORTH CAROLINA.

NOW I DON'T HAVE THIS AS AN OFFICIAL NUMBER YET, BUT IT HAS COME FROM PRETTY GOOD SUICIDE.

ACTUALLY, NORTH CAROLINA HAS A HASS, UH, MINORITY SAT SCORE IN NATION.

I GOT THAT DEBT.

WHAT THAT TELLS US IS THAT THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE IN NORTH CAROLINA, THEY TRULY MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL OUR STUDENTS.

WE TALK ABOUT DATA, BUT LOOKING AT THOSE FIGURES, IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD HAVE EVERYONE BREAK OUT IN THAT MANNER TO BE A LITTLE BIT, MR. MARION SAID, WE HAVE KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO CRAIG COUNTY SCHOOLS.

IT'S AN INFERIOR SCHOOL SYSTEM.

OH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOU'RE IN THE PARK ON A BEING DEFENSIVE ABOUT YOUR EDUCATION.

WHERE ARE YOU FROM? AND THAT'S THE ONLY NORTH CAROLINA, 48,

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50% OF THOSE.

THAT'S PRETTY JUST ASK HIM.

WHAT'S EVER BEEN INVENTED IOWA.

MY THROW IT OFF ON OUR, THE 19 88, 19 89 TO THE NATION, AS IT CREATES THE SAP SCHOOL.

WHENEVER WE THINK OF THEIR SAFETY, WHATEVER THEY INCREASED, THE SEVEN POINTS NORTH CAROLINA, OVER THAT SEVEN YEAR PERIOD, HE HAS INCREASED THE SAT 2,970 HOMES.

NOW, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL THAT, LOOKING AT IT THAT WAY IS CONTINUING PROBLEMS GOING ON IN NORTH CAROLINA.

THERE'S SOME FOLKS WHO SAY, WELL, THE SCORES CAME UP BECAUSE OF THE CHANCE TEST.

THAT'S NOT.

SO THAT TAKES PLACE.

DISHY STUDENTS WHO TAKE THE SAT THIS YEAR HAVE NEW FORMAT.

IN FACT, IT'S THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS.

SO THERE'S SOME COMMENTS BEING MADE.

WELL, NO ONE , BUT AS LONG AS THEY COMPARE US TO OTHER STATES, EVERYBODY CHANGED.

UH, YOU DIDN'T SET ME UP FOR THAT.

CAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU A SLIDE AND I WASN'T THERE YESTERDAY.

I'M JUST SO WE'RE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE.

BUT MY POINT IS THAT I'M JUST TIRED AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE AS EDUCATORS FOR HAVING TO DEFEND YOURSELF.

AND I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SAY, OH, NORTH CAROLINA NUMBER 48.

HUH? AND YOU'VE GOT TO BE CONTINUALLY PROVEN YOURSELF WHEN IT'S MALONEY.

ANYBODY THAT CAN'T SEE THAT IT'S NOT APPLES AND APPLES DOES NOT DESERVE AN EXPLANATION.

MY POINT JUST LEAVE HIM.

WE WANT WON.

RIGHT.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO BE 49 THE WAY YOU FIGURE IT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ACROSS TO SAY, OKAY, WE REACHED, THEY WERE OKAY.

THERE.

THAT'S NOT THE ATTITUDE.

THAT'S THAT ATTITUDE DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE.

AND WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GOING TO BEAT THAT.

PETITION WILL CONTINUE.

AND THIS BOND IS AN INDICATOR THAT REALLY IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

ALL OF US TO SAY, YES, EDUCATION IS TAUGHT.

NOT JUST WHEN WE'RE GOING TO FALL.

IT'S NOT ONE.

IT'S JUST THE RIGHT THING TO SAY.

YES, IT IS A TOP.

THAT'S WHAT I LIKE.

I KNOW IT'S TOUGH.

AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

MOST IMPORTANT FOR SENIOR CLOSING, THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT, AND I'M QUITE SURE PRESENTATION.

NOW WE HAVE SOME OTHER FOLKS OUT THERE.

IN FACT, IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THIS HERE TO SPECIFICALLY TO SPEAK TO ON THAT OR AGAINST THAT, YOU MIGHT AS WELL PUT IT UP AGAIN.

THAT ONE, HE GOES, MAN, BY HERE, HE GOT HIS HAND THERE.

WE'VE GOT TO, I DIDN'T SEE ELSE.

SO IS HE CRAZY? YOU NEED TO RAISE THAT THING HIGHER WHERE YOU WANT TO GO FIRST.

CAUSE YOU YOU'RE CLOSER TO THE THING AND LET HER GO TO NEXT EITHER WAY.

MY NAME IS JOHNNY TRYING TO GET RID OF YOU.

CAN'T GET RID OF THAT NAME.

I CAME HERE TO SPEAK OUT.

I DIDN'T SPEAK UP COMMISSIONERS SORT OF AGAINST THE SCHOOL.

I DON'T MEAN A HUNDRED MINUTES.

THE QUESTIONS I HAD ABOUT THE SCHOOL.

AND I GUESS THE BEST WAY TO START OUT IS TO TELL YOU THE PARENT, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU HEARD THIS OR NOT.

THERE WAS THIS OLD TEXAS RANCHER WENT OUT INTO HIS FARM YARD THERE AS BARNYARD, GETTING READY TO GO INTO TOWN.

AND HE THOUGHT HE HEARD SOMETHING, SAW SOMETHING AND HE WALKED OVER THERE AND SHOOK HER HEAD.

THERE WAS A LITTLE TINY BIRD LAYING HERE IN THE DRIVEWAY FIELD.

HE LOOKED AT HIM, IT WAS A LITTLE MOON.

HE SAID TO YOU, THIS BIRD IS STILL ALIVE.

IT WAS COLD FROSTY.

HOW DOES RIGHT HERE IN DECEMBER, SEE YOUR BREATH.

SO HE TOOK THE LITTLE BIRD AND HE PUT IT INSIDE HIS COAT POCKET.

WELL, I GUESS AS HE WASN'T DOING SOME CHARGES, THE BIRD STARTED TO REVIVE A LITTLE BIT AND SHE WAS THAT NERVOUS MAYBE GOING.

BUT HE SAID, I CAN'T KEEP THIS BIRD IN MY POCKET ALL DAY LONG AS HE WALKED OUT OF THE BAR AND JUSTIN, ONE OF THE COWS RUN, THE BOSSES LEFT LOOSE.

ONE OF THOSE BIG, BIG STEAMING TILL THE FARMER SAID, DON,

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I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS BURDEN PUT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.

SEE WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE IT'S WARM AND IT'S COLD OUT THERE.

AND HE DID.

HE PUT THE LITTLE BIRD RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT COW STEAMING, YOU KNOW, AS HE WAS DRIVING OFF TO TOWN, THAT BIRD WAS REFUNDED AND SHIRT.

AND WHAT BLACK MONEY WOULD TRY BE FLAPPING IN THE WIND? WELL, JUST THAT FARM LEFT HIS PILOT.

IT CAME ALONG EIGHT MORAL OF THE STORY IS IT ISN'T ALWAYS YOUR ENEMIES THAT GETS YOU INTO IT.

ALWAYS YOUR FRIENDS THAT GET YOU OUT IT.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF IT RIGHT UP TO YOUR NECK, KEEP YOUR MOTION.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE HERE.

IT'S A JOHN, YOU'RE NOT FORCED TO FORCE SOME FLAGS, UH, PERHAPS, WELL CHECK, CHECK YOUR CHARACTER RUNS INTO LINE ITEM.

AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING IS, UH, SHOWING OUR SUPPORT TO, TO THE RESULTS OF THE SCHOOLS.

BECAUSE I THINK IN SOME CASES MIGHT BE QUESTION, LET'S TAKE YOUR TALK ABOUT THE NEWER IN THE HIGH SCHOOL, MR. MAYOR, UH, WHEN YOU WERE OUT THERE, DID YOU HAVE TO, THAT'S ALL LECTURE HALL.

I THINK THEY CALL IT THAT HIGH PRICE ARCHITECT AND THEY HIRED, OR, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSEDLY IT'S KIND OF A TRIANGLE FAIR.

HAVE YOU SEEN THAT? I DON'T RECALL SEEING A STOREROOM.

SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT CRAVEN COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM DOES NOT HAVE, I MEAN, LET ME SAY SOMETHING RIGHT THERE.

SAY THERE ARE OTHERS THAT MIGHT COME FORWARD AND SAY WHAT WIZARDS THEY USE THIS SPACE THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO USE FOR ANYTHING ELSE AND STORAGE SPACE, WHICH THEY NEED MORE OF.

YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT SIDE OF THE FENCE AND YOU TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING WELL, YOU KNOW, SO YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS MUNICIPAL BONDS.

AND, UH, PROFESSOR STEPHEN ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT PERHAPS THE ECONOMY COULD FADE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR $5 TRILLION DEBT, AND IF ANYBODY CALLS THAT IN, IT MIGHT FADE QUICKER THAN WE WANT.

BUT ALSO THERE'S A FACTOR OF THE FLAT TAX, WHICH EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT.

THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HURT BOND MARKET TREMENDOUS.

SO I'M SAYING IT WILL BE PREPARED, UH, AS A COUNTY TO PERHAPS PAY THIS MONEY BACK.

AND SO THAT GETS TO THE BOTTOM LINE, UH, HAVE LOCKED INTO SOME NEW SCHOOL.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

WE NEED TO BE PARENTS.

WE DON'T WANT OUR STUDENTS TO, TO BE, UH, THE UNFORTUNATE ONES.

WE WANT THEM TO HAVE THE BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN GIVE THEM.

ARE WE GIVING THEM A LOT OF EXTRAS OR JUST THE BARE MINIMUM? THAT'S THE QUESTION, GOT HER ASKING HERSELF THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

WE HOPE TO EXPLORE THAT AND SEE JUST EXACTLY WHAT THIS ONE.

AND, UH, I GUESS MAYBE IT'S HARD FOR ME.

I'M DRAWING SOCIAL SECURITY IN JANUARY.

IT'S HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT SCHOOLS SAY THEY HAVE TO HAVE.

SO I SAY IT'S A QUESTION OF WHAT THEY WANT AND WHAT THEY NEED AND YOU AS PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

AND I REALIZE THAT YOU'RE JUST PUTTING A RUBBER STAMP.

THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALREADY PUT THERE AS ON IT.

AND I THINK WE HAVE TO GET THE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE STARTED HERE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE WORST.

IT'S GOT TO START HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PLEASE.

OKAY.

WELL, LET JULIUS WAS ACTUALLY ON IT.

FIRST OF ALL, MAYOR, UH, TO ADDRESS THE BOARD IN AMERICA, WHOEVER ELSE IS LISTENING.

I THINK THAT FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE DISCUSSION OF DEBATE IN THE SITUATION THAT MR. STEVEN HAS BROUGHT IS OUT OF LINE.

I THINK WHAT HE BROUGHT HERE WAS TO PRESENT US WITH IDEAS.

THEY LET US THINK ABOUT AND GO FROM THERE.

THE DEBATE PROCESS, I THINK IS IN THE PROCESS OF DIEM CHALLENGING.

WHAT HE'S DONE HERE IN THIS SETTING IS NOT IN PLACE, BUT SINCE IT'S ALREADY STARTED, FIRST OF ALL, ONE THING HE DID, HE MADE A STATEMENT THAT DO THEY REALLY NEED, OR DO THEY JUST WANT, I SAID SOME, YEAH.

OKAY.

LET ME, LET ME TELL YOU ONE THING.

AND I WORK FOR THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND I'M NOT STEPPING UP FOR THEM BECAUSE I WORKED FOR THEM, BUT I'M STEPPING UP FOR THEM BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON HERE.

WHY NOT YOKE I'LL SUPPORT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S PROPER FOR SOMEONE TO CHALLENGE SOMETHING UNTIL THEY HAVE RESEARCHED, GOT ANSWERS AND FOUND OUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON.

I DON'T THINK ANY, ANYTHING ON HERE, MY PERSONAL FEELING IS IT'S NOT A LUXURY.

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THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE SYSTEM IS BEING FACED WITH.

IT HAS NOT BEEN ATTACKED IN THE PAST, JUST LIKE THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

WE ARE NOW CHALLENGED WITH TRYING TO SAT ON A COUPLE OF, ADD ON TO THIS BUILDING AND DO SOME OTHER THINGS TO HAPPEN.

AND WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW, IT'S GOING TO COST US MORE FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

SO THE QUESTION IS, WHEN DO YOU FIX IT? YOU FIX IT.

WHEN THE CITIZENS SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE MONEY, WE DON'T GO PASS THE BOND, STRUGGLE.

IT BUILDS FALL DOWN.

DO YOU DO THAT? OR DO YOU BITE THE BULLET AND MOVE ON AND TRY TO GET SOMETHING IN PLACE? SO THAT 20 YEARS FROM NOW, IT WILL BE STILL STANDING AND YOU MAY HAVE TO DO AS MUCH WORK AS YOU HAVING TO DO NOTHING.

THE OTHER THING IS I SEE FROM DAY TO DAY, THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WOULD REPAIR OLD SCHOOLS VEHICLES.

THERE ARE THINGS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT WE'RE OPERATING ON, THAT WE'RE JUST GETTING BY AND REMEMBER, AND, AND HOPEFULLY I'M GIVING YOU THE RIGHT INFORMATION.

WE ARE OPERATING ON A SYSTEM WITH LESS MONEY THAN OTHER SYSTEMS, BUT THE RESULT, WHAT IS COMING OUT WITH STUDENTS IS BUILDING THE SYSTEMS AND SCAFFOLD.

SO WHY NOT MAKE AN INVESTMENT NOW IN THE SOMETHING THAT YOU GET ONLY BEAUTIFUL.

IF WE GO ON DOWN HERE, THE QUESTION IS, WELL, IT SYSTEM IS GOING DOWN HERE.

GRADES ARE GOING DOWN HERE.

WHY ARE WE GOING TO DO A THING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU GOT SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT IS WORKING WELL, THAT CONTINUE TO BUILD ON IT, WHY NOT CONTINUE TO BUILD ON? I DON'T UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINGS I QUESTION WE DID HAVE NO PAY IT BACK, BUT ANYTIME THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO IMPROVE OR SOMETHING, THAT'S GOING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY, HEALTHY KIDS HELP DRAW BUSINESSES TO NUMER, HELP THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

BUT WHAT DID WE DO? DID YOU, DO YOU TAKE THE CHANCE OF NOT IMPROVING ALL? I GO, OKAY.

ALL I, ALL I DO AS A CITIZEN AND RESIDENT NEWTON, NORTH CAROLINA LINE ITEMS, CERTAIN THINGS.

AND, UH, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SUCCESSFULLY ANSWERED TO ME INDIVIDUALLY.

AND I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY THEY'RE NOT ANSWERING TO.

AND WE'LL BE IN THE FUTURE AS FAR AS SAT SCORES.

YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT, UH, HEY, I AGREE WITH SAT THING IS RIDICULOUS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? OUR SAT TESTS SHOULD BE GRADUATING.

SENIORS CAN READ THEIR OWN DIPLOMA OR THEY CAN FILL OUT AN APPOINTMENT.

THAT SHOULD BE OUR SAT SCORE TEST.

IS THAT BEING TAKEN? HAVE YOU INTERVIEWED PEOPLE FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM RECENTLY? YES.

OKAY.

HAPPY WITH IT WAS PERFECTLY PLEASED WITH THE PEOPLE I'M BUYING.

I'LL TELL YOU THIS, THE YOUNG MEN THAT I'VE BEEN OREO DOING ORIENTATION ON IN THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN SOME OF THE BEST PEOPLE I'VE SEEN COME ACROSS IN YEARS.

AND THEY'RE NOT JUST CRAVING CANDIDATE FROM PHARMACO COUNTY IN BEAUFORT COUNTY WHILE WE'RE ONLY OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE.

I CAN'T HELP WHAT WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU SO YOU'LL KNOW IT'S NOT JUST HERE.

OKAY.

WELL, I JUST, I HAVE A RIGHT.

PARDON? PUBLICLY.

YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

I PAY YOUR SALARY.

I VOTED FOR YOU.

SO DON'T SAY I DON'T HAVE THIS.

RIGHT.

DON'T KNOW THEY DIDN'T SAY IT.

I'M JUST SAYING, IS THIS SAID, I DON'T THINK IT WAS RIGHT FOR US TO ALLOW THE TO PRESENT.

OPEN FORUM FOR DISCUSSION.

I JUST STARTED WITH OKAY.

I JUST WANT IT TO BRING A POINT OF BOARD.

I AGREE WITH MR. WEST AND HE HAS THE RIGHT TO STATE HIS OPINION.

WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE TONIGHT IS ASSET TO GIVE HER A RESOLUTION, TO REPORT A RESOLUTION TO US, TO A SCHOOL BOND ISSUE.

AND I PERSONALLY AM IN FAVOR OF THAT.

HOWEVER, IT IS NO PROBLEM WITH OTHER PEOPLE POINTING OUT CONCERNS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE.

WE HAVE A TERM NOVEMBER TO VOTE.

AND IF IT'S BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER, THOSE OF US WHO SUPPORT THE SCHOOL BOND CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

THIS IS GOOD.

I THINK IN MY OPINION, THAT PEOPLE EXPRESS THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE AND THAT WHEN BRASS WE CAN PASS PUBLIC HEARINGS OR WHEN THOSE OF US WHO SUPPORT THE BOND ISSUE START HAVING PUBLIC HEARINGS AND CAMPAIGNING FOR SUPPORT OF THE RECOMMENDER.

THEN IT'S AT THAT TIME THAT WE CAN BE BAKED IF NECESSARY.

BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK THAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS, IS WHO HAS ASKED THE RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT THE BOTTOM NUMBER.

BEEN THE MEN.

WE HAVE THE CHOICE EITHER TO DO BETTER.

NOT HIGH OF OUR CITIZENS DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME BEFORE US AND EXPRESS ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION

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AND ANY OTHER INVESTMENTS THAT WE CHOOSE TO VOTE ON ALL, THEY HAVE TO BE CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

SO I KIND OF HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE CONTINUED THIS CONVERSATION, I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE ENDED, BUT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, ALLOW A LITTLE RESPECT FOR THE OPINIONS OF ONE ANOTHER, BUT WE ALL DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO THOSE OF, WELL, IN FACT, THIS BOARD, I THINK IT'S BEEN PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE WE LET CITIZENS THAT ARE NOT CITIZENS EXPRESS.

I THINK THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD GO INTUITIVE IF WE CONTINUE.

SO WE FOUND OUT, THANK YOU.

I, I JUST GOT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE THING CLEAR THAT YOU SAID WE RUBBER STAMP THIS THING.

IF WE WANT A RUBBER STAMP, I WOULD'VE NOT HAD MR. SNEAD HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS IT SO WE COULD HEAR WHAT THE THING IS.

THAT'S NOT A RUBBER STAMP.

WELL, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY DID.

I, I REALLY DON'T CARE.

I JUST KNOW THAT HE WAS, HE WAS ASKED TO COME UP AND DISCUSS THIS THING.

WELL, THAT IS UNDERWAY TO GET THIS FAST.

THERE'LL BE VERY, THERE'LL BE A, I WILL BE THERE ON NOVEMBER.

LET ME ASK YOU AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

I'VE KIND OF LIKE OLD COLOMBO HERE.

IS IT THE FACT THAT SOMETHING IS A JUGGERNAUT AND IT SHOULD BE IN PD? OR IS THIS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER OR I'M TRYING TO GET A HANDLE? NO, REALLY.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT, ONE THING THAT I HAD FOUND IN MY SHORT LITTLE TRIP IN THIS POLITICAL THING IS A COUPLE OF STRANGE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN ONE THING IS, AND IT'S SORT OF LIKE THE OLD RULE IN BUSINESS.

YOU KNOW, IF A GUY HAS A WAREHOUSE WITH 10,000 FEET, THE PURCHASING AGENT WILL FILL IT FULL OF GOODIES.

AFTER THING IS 20,000 FEET.

I MEAN, HE WORKS IN MY BUSINESS THAT WAY HE'LL FAIL AT IT.

WELL, THE SAME WAY IS THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WHATSOEVER.

DOES THAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT SALES TAX WAS NOT BEING SPENT? WELL, THEY WENT TO THE SCHOOLS OR WHEREVER IT WENT IS HISTORY.

OH, IT WILL BE HISTORY.

I FEEL MUCH BETTER IN HERE.

AND KNOWING THAT EVEN IF IT WAS IN A LESS THAN EFFICIENT MANNER THAN IT WENT TOWARDS BRINGING OUR KIDS UP AND YOU TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT BUILDING UP THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF YOUR FUTURE OF YOUR, OF YOUR KIDS AND YOUR GENETIC MATERIAL IS ALL I CAN LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, IS, IS ONE OF THE BETTER WAYS TO DO IT.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE GOING PROBABLY ANYWAY.

SO THE OTHER THING IS, AND THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT CONCEPT TO ME ABOUT IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT THEIR TAXES, OKAY? IF YOU'RE 265 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES AND EVERY ONE OF THEM WAS TAXED, $1, $1 BY ITSELF, WON'T DO HARDLY ANYTHING.

YOU CAN'T BUY ANYTHING WITH A DOLLAR HEART, THE 265 MILLION.

I WAS PRETTY POWERFUL.

SO YOU COULD LOOK AT DOING THIS, CALL IT PROJECT X OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO, IS IT GOOD, BAD, AND DIFFERENT, OR SHOULD WE GIVE EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY BACK ONE DOC, SOMEHOW OVER TIME, I'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT I'D RATHER REST THE $265 MILLION ON THE COMPETITION SIDE, WE MENTIONED WAS ONLY A 75% EFFICIENCY.

THEN I HAD TO GIVE EVERYBODY BACK ONE BOOK.

AND THIS IS NOT A PERFECT ANALOGY BECAUSE IT'S NOT $1 ON THE ONE HAND IS NOT 265 MILLION ON THE OTHER HAND, BUT THE POINT IS THAT TOGETHER, WE CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS.

AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS GOOD TO SAY, WELL, LET'S JUST GIVE IT ALL BACK TO EVERYBODY.

I'LL PAY A TON OF TAXES.

AND I KNOW YOU PERSONALLY, AND YOU KNOW ME, AND I THINK YOU KNOW THAT.

AND SO A LOT OF THE TAX MONEY IS PERSONALLY MINE AND I'M OBLIGATED TO IT BECAUSE OF MY HOME AND OTHER THINGS THAT I OWN, WHETHER MY BUSINESS BELLIES UP FIVE YEARS OF WHATEVER THE TAX MAN COMING, YOU KNOW, SO A LOT OF THE COMMITMENTS ARE PERSONALLY MY COMMITMENTS, BUT THE POINT IS, IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE PEOPLE BACK A SENSIBLE TAX BREAK REBATE, WHATEVER, THEN, THEN THAT WOULD BE ONE THING.

BUT IF IT'S MONEY THAT WILL BE GONE A ANYWAY OR BE A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT, AND YET WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO LARGE GOOD WITH IT.

THEN JUST IN MY PERSONAL WAY OF THINKING, I'M GOING TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF LESS TRYING TO DO SOME GOOD.

BECAUSE ONE THING THAT JUNIORS MENTIONED WAS THAT AFTER THE FACILITIES ARE JUST QUOTE UNQUOTE, ADEQUATE.

NOW WE'LL SAY LESS THAN ADEQUATE, BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG THAT BORDER, THESE THINGS TAKE TIME TO GET IN PLACE.

AND WE HAVE TO PLAN AHEAD TO BUILD THEM NOW COST LAST AND IT COST A BILL THEN TO LOOK BACK AND SAY, WE SHOULD'VE BUILT THEM THREE YEARS AGO AND NOW WE'RE REALLY JAMMED UP.

AND NOW THINGS HAVE INCREASED 20 OR 30%, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS, THE FACTORS THAT ARE SORT OF MOVING TARGETS THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM PERSONALLY, WITH ANYBODY IN ANY OF THAT.

AND IN FACT, IF, IF NOBODY QUESTIONS IT, THEN NONE OF US CITIZENS OR OTHERWISE ABOUT OUR DUTY, THAT IS TRULY A RUBBER STAMP.

AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THAT IS IT FOR THE PUBLIC AND I'M SURE.

AND I HOPE MR. STEVEN WILL DO THAT IS FOR THE FUTURE TO ADDRESS EVERY ONE OF THOSE LINE ITEMS LIKE HE'S TALKING ABOUT, WE NEED THE AIR CONDITIONING IN THIS GYM BECAUSE NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S HOT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FALLING OUT OR WE'LL HAVE MORE PEOPLE COME TO THE GAMES AND WHY I'M GOING COME OR WE'LL DO THIS AND WE'LL DO THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'LL BETTER SATISFY THE CITIZENS QUESTION IS WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THE MONEY?

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AND I DON'T, I DON'T PERSONALLY, I MEAN, I AGREE WITH THEM ON THAT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT WHATSOEVER.

AND SO AS THIS BOARD, I'VE HAD NO SINGLE INDIVIDUAL APPROACH ME AND TELL ME, HE WROTE ME A LETTER, ASKED ME TO BE THERE YESTERDAY AND TO GET A BRIEFING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DID IT.

AND I WAS OUT OF TOWN YESTERDAY.

SO I WASN'T THERE.

THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE SEEN IT.

SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A BEHIND US UNLESS THEY JUST LEAVE ME OUT OF EVERYTHING.

THERE'S NOT REALLY A BIG BEHIND THE SCENES SKULLDUGGERY SURGERY, YOU KNOW, TO RUN OVER EVERYBODY.

BUT ANYWAY, WENT OUT, RUNNING ON FAIR, WHERE I HOPE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND ANYTHING, YOU GOT A QUESTION HAVE AND WHATEVER, BUT I WENT OUT IF I CAN JUST DEPARTMENT ONE COMMENT, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, COLOMBO.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THE SECOND THING I WOULD GO ON RECORD RIGHT NOW THAT IF ALL THIS GELS OUT, ALL THESE THINGS ONLINE ITEM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND EVERYTHING IS JUDGED BY HYDRO.

BUT I WANT TO SAY THE PROBLEM WITH THAT I THINK IS THAT THERE'S NO SUCH THING.

ALL THIS THING IS MYTHOLOGY.

IT'S LIKE, WE'RE NOT EVEN SURE ABOUT THE PRICES OF THIS OR THAT.

AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DOESN'T HAVE A TRACK RECORD IN SPENDING THEIR MONEY IF YOU'LL LOOK.

AND I THINK WE CAN PROVE THAT IN THE WEEKS TO COME WELL, MAYBE WHO DOES SPEND THE MONEY.

I HAVE KIDS.

THEY'RE OLD CARS CAUSE I'M OLD, BUT I HAVE RENT CONTROL IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.

I'M NOT AGAINST KIDS OR MOM OR APPLE PIE.

I'M JUST MAKING THE GENDER THING.

I THINK THAT'S MY, IT, WASN'T A QUESTION.

I THINK THAT'S MY RIGHT, MS. IT'S WORTH IT.

I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU ON THAT.

YOU COULD OUT, MY OLD MISTAKE WAS I THINK SOMETIME WE NEED TO GET SOME THINGS ANSWERED BEFORE WE COME OUT AND ASK A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.

THEN THE OTHER THING WAS, I JUST THOUGHT HERE AT THIS MEETING, IT WASN'T A PLACE FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

I THOUGHT WOULD BE A PLACE, BUT LET ME, WELL, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.

IN THE LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN SOME, SOME TIGHT BUDGETS WITH THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

AND THAT HAS BEEN, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES IN SOME MANAGEMENT AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES THAT I'VE HAD TO LIVE WITH TO DO THINGS IN TERMS OF PURCHASING WHERE WE HAVE PROBABLY SPIN OR STRETCH THE DOLLAR MORE THAN WE'VE EVER STRETCHED A DOLLAR LAST TWO YEARS AND PURCHASING SOME PARTS AND SOME SPECIALTY ITEMS. OKAY.

SO LET ME, WELL, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING THIS YEAR, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME AIR CONDITIONING UNITS GO OUT THAT WHEN THEY PULLED IT OUT OF THE WINDOW, THE COMPRESSOR POWER CAUSE BEEN IN THE WINDOW SO LONG AND THEY'RE RIGHT IN THERE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REBUILDING SOME BALLERS TO GET STARTED FOR THE WINTER.

I MEAN, I COULD GO ON AND ON, BUT LIKE I SAID, YEAH, AND I HOPE THAT YOU GET THE ANSWERS TO WHERE YOU ARE COMFORTABLE TO KNOW THAT MAYBE IT'S GOOSE IS NOT TRYING TO GET EXTRA DOLLARS, BUY ICE CREAM EVERYDAY FOR PEOPLE.

AND MAYBE ALSO MR. AUTUMN APARTMENTS IS THE FACT THAT I COME FROM ANOTHER GENERATION.

I WENT TO A ONE-ROOM SCHOOL, 12TH GRADE CENTER.

I ONLY COMPLETED TO THE NINTH GRADE.

I AM A ROAD SPOT ROE.

I HAVE TO WORK IN LOS ANGELES, NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, AS A JOURNALIST.

YOU'LL USE THAT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

BRINGING THOSE BOXING GLOVES TO THE NEXT MEETING, PLEASE.

NO IS COMING UP.

I WAS JUST WANTING TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN REGARDS TO THIS OKAY.

BUT I WAS JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GOOD, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THOSE HEALTH CONCERNS, CHANNEL CONCERN TO YOU AND TO WHOEVER IT IS, YOUR STAFF I'M SURE CAN RESPOND TO THEM.

PEOPLE BEHAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

THEN WE DO IT TONIGHT.

I'VE TRIED TO US GETTING INTO TRYING TO DEFEND SOMETHING FIRE I GUESS MY NAME'S AND I WANT TO BE HONEST, I MUST ADMIT RIGHT UP FRONT THAT I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT OPPOSED TO THESE

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BONDS.

UM, 200%.

I HAVE WORKED SOME IN EDUCATION.

I DON'T PRESENT MYSELF AS AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD AND I HAVEN'T WORKED IN THIS COUNTY OR THE STATE IN EDUCATION, BUT I'M WONDERING HOW MANY IFS, IF IT'S A QUESTION, HOW MANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS EITHER ARE PRESENT? THEY WORKED IN EDUCATION OR HAVE A SPOUSE WORKING IN EDUCATION.

ANYBODY HAVE A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER, ARE YOU THREE GOING TO ABSTAIN VOTE? IT DOES A REVOLUTION.

IT HAS NO, UH, THE THREE, SHE, SHE WAS JUST LAYING IN.

SHE HAS NOTHING TO DO.

WELL, LISTEN, THIS ISSUE IS TO BE DECIDED BY THE VOTERS.

WHAT WE THINK WON'T MEAN A THING.

YEAH, OF COURSE, OF COURSE.

LET'S JUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AS THEY COME UP ON YOUR ABSTAIN.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

NO, ABSOLUTELY.

MY TOTAL SUPPORT, BUT MR. ROLLINS, LET ME INJECT THAT.

LIKE I SAID, I'M A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER.

I TEACH WHEN THEY NEED ME, THEY CALL ME FIRST THING IN THE MORNING AND THEY PAY ME $40 A DAY.

AND THAT SCHOOL BOND IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT $40 AND 50 CENTS.

YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE IN YOUR FAMILY THAT WORKS IN EDUCATION.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WELL, THAT'S AN HONORABLE PROFESSION.

CERTAINLY HAVE NOTHING AGAINST WORKING IN EDUCATION.

AS I SAID, I HAVE MYSELF ON ONE OCCASION.

UM, HELLO TO MAKE A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS THOUGH.

AND UM, I AM WORRIED ABOUT HAVING TO DEFEND THEM HERE.

I WANT TO BRING YOU ALL DOWN ON THE HEAD TWO YEARS AGO, AS YOU RECALL, WE WERE ASKED TO PASS A BOND REFERENDUM FOR THE COLLEGE.

AND AT THAT TIME THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER SEEMINGLY UNRELATED THAT HAS STIRRED THE POPULATION UP AND THEY FELT THAT THEY COULDN'T REALLY TRUST THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ENOUGH TO ENTRUST THEM WITH THAT MUCH MONEY.

AND THE BOND WAS VOTED DOWN AND SUBSEQUENTLY IT WAS TAKEN TO THE STATEWIDE ON A STATEWIDE BALLOT.

ABOUT A YEAR LATER THEN, WELL, LET ME A FEW MONTHS LATER.

AND OF COURSE IT PASSED, BUT IT DIDN'T PASS LOCALLY.

UM, IN ABOUT THE THREE COUNTIES, IT WAS DEFEATED ALMOST THREE TO ONE.

AND I THINK IT'S PREMATURE AT THIS TIME, ASKED THE VOTERS TO PASS A SCHOOL BOND.

THEY COST FOR THE VERY SAME REASON, THE SAME ISSUES THAT HAD THE PEOPLE WEARING THEM STIRRED UP THEN ARE STILL ALLOWED IN MANY RESPECTS.

THE SAME ISSUES INCLUDE, UM, IF YOU NEED YOUR MONEY, UM, THE TRASH SITUATION AND BY THE WAY, THE STICKER PRICES ON THE COUNTY PART.

I UNDERSTAND YOU GOT PULLED OUT OF SYSTEM, NOT ON LAND WISHED I COULD, BUT THE STICKER PRICE WAS ON THE TRASH COUNTY.

BY WENT UP BY 50 CENTS A STICKER.

PERHAPS THIS IS HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO LOWER THE PROPERTY TAX A CENT AND A HALF.

AND WHILE I'M TALKING ABOUT TAX, I'LL MENTION TOO.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE THE SALES TAX, EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK SALES TAX PAYMENTS WERE ONE OF THE VERY FEW STATES WHO TAX OR SEEK TO TAX FOOD ITEMS, BREAD AND STUFF SUCH AS THAT NECESSITY TO SUPPLY MANY STATES, DON'T TAX THOSE ITEMS. AND I WISH WE DID MR. ALEX, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT TAX IS FORMAL? YOU KNOW WHY THE FOOD TAX WAS INSTITUTED TO BEGIN WITH? YES, SIR.

OUR POCKETS, THE POLITICIANS TO DO WHAT TO DO.

WHAT WAS IT USED FOR? WHAT WAS IT USED FOR? IS IT BEING USED? WHAT WAS THAT TAX ENACTED ACTIVE FOR ONE EXCUSE TO USE, TO ESTABLISH THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM IN NORTH CAROLINA AND THEN LIST IT AS BEING A GOOD SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHY FOOD IS TAXED, BUT IT WAS WATER.

THAT'S WHERE THE TAX.

AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT, THAT THESE STATES THAT DON'T HAVE FOOD TYPES, DON'T HAVE ANY COLLEGES.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE LOGIC, THAT'S THE WAY NO, BUT SOME TAX PAYS FOR ALL OF THOSE.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE WHERE MAX IS, IS, IS I DIDN'T NOTICE TIL THE MOMENT, BUT HE, THE SERVICE TO TAKE TEACHERS I'LL STAND CORRECTED, BUT AM I NOT CORRECT IN SAYING THAT THE FOOD TAX WAS ENACTED, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN AS A TEMPORARY TAX AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO JUST ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING, WHATEVER IT WAS.

AND THEN IT WAS ALLOWED TO COME OFF.

BUT I MEAN, IT MAY HAVE BEEN TO ESTABLISH WHERE THEY MIGHT, IF I'M NOT INCORRECT ABOUT IT, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE JUST FOR X AMOUNT OF YEARS, BUT IT NEVER CAME OFF.

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ANYWAY.

ANYWAY, ALSO THE PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE LANDFILL SCAM AS THEY SAW IT AS A SCAM.

AND RIGHT NOW THE LANDFILLS GOING GREAT GUNS AND FIXING THE BILLBOARD OR CONSTRUCT OR RENOVATE SOMETHING, A FANCY NEW OFFICE BUILDING FOR THEM.

SO NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGED THERE.

PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE RAILROAD SYSTEM AND ABOUT THE COUNTY BEING MAJOR SHAREHOLDERS IN IT AND SETTING IT ON THE BOARD AND SO FORTH.

WELL, THAT REALLY HASN'T BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGE THERE.

WE STILL HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THE RAILROAD STOPS AND NOW WE'RE GETTING ARGUED BY BOB, WHY WE SHOULD, WHY WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO HOLD THEM AFTER SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE LEFT, MADE FANCY SPEECHES AGAINST ON.

SO PEOPLE STILL NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

I'M NOT.

AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TALKED TO ME, VOLUNTEERING THERE.

NOW I KNOW THE THING THAT WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IS THE GTP MEMBERSHIP.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE A MEMBER OF THE JEEP, THE GLOBAL TRANSPORT, GLOBAL TRANSPORT.

YOUR PROPAGANDA TELLS US THAT WE NEED THAT TO CREATE JOBS.

SO OUR CHILDREN WERE STOPPED LEAVING HOME AND STAYING IN OTHER STATES AND AROUND FOR JOBS.

YET WE'RE HERE ALONE.

MOST OF OUR CHILDREN GO TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THEY COME BACK HERE, MR. ROSS, EXCUSE ME, ONE SECOND.

MAY OR MAY I INTERRUPT HERE? FOR SOME REASON, THIS ROLL IS BEGINNING TO GET OUT OF HOARDER.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT GLOBAL TRANSPORT, OTHER PROBLEMS. THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ADDRESSING IS THE BOND REFERENDUM.

AND IF THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT WOULD THINK THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED ABOUT, BUT YOU'RE NOT THINKING YOU GET READY TO GO OFF THE HANDLE HERE.

AND I THINK YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER.

I AM NOT GOING INTO DEPTH ON THESE ISSUES.

I MENTIONED MEREDITH.

YEAH, BUT, BUT YOU PUT YOU AT A POINT, MR. RAWLS, WHERE YOU LEFT THE SCHOOL BOND, YOU LEFT THAT.

NOW ANOTHER POINT, ANOTHER POINT I'VE GOT TO DO WITH THE SCHOOL BOND.

OKAY.

READY TONIGHT? I HEAR PROPAGANDA ABOUT SCHOOL BOND ABOUT, OH, IF WE HAVE GOOD SCHOOLS, WE CAN TAKE THESE INDUSTRY OFFICIALS WHO ARE INTERESTED, INTERESTED IN COMING IN AND LOCATE IN HERE AND SHOW THEM THESE SCHOOLS.

THEY CAN BE MUCH MORE WHO IN THE CONSTITUTION IS USING TAX MONEY TO BILL SCHOOL, TO ATTRACT THE INDUSTRY.

I SPOKE ABOUT THAT BACK WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE NEED THE SCHOOL AND HAVE THE COST, WE NEED TO BE IN BETTER SHAPE TO GET ALL OF THESE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN FROM THE BASIS CLOSING.

THAT WAS THE REASON TO BUILD A SCHOOL.

BUT THAT WAS JUST A SIDE BENEFIT.

THAT WAS NOT THE REASON.

THE REASON WAS, UH, IT'S USING PROPOSAL.

SO I THINK IF WE USE UNDER WHAT CONSULTATION IS THAT? WHERE IS THAT? WHICH CONSTITUTION? THE CONSTITUTION, THERE IS AN OLD CAROLINA WE'RE IN WHAT STATUTES IS THAT MAIL? I LIKE TO READ THAT WHEN I LEAVE, I'M NOT QUITE RECYCLING THE CONSTITUTION TO THE LIGHT TO ME.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO HEAL.

WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT BECAUSE OF DISAPPOINTMENT, DISILLUSIONMENT OR WHATEVER, AND THE OTHER ENDEAVORS, THEY COUNTY RESIDENTS OR WHATEVER SHOULD NOT SUPPORT THE SCHOOL BOND ISSUE OR MAINLY WHAT IS IT? AND I'M SAYING THIS AND I'M SITTING HERE AND WANTING TO GO SOMEWHERE AS LONG AS IT'S GOOD GOVERNMENT MUST.

PRE-SEED GOOD SCHOOLS.

IF YOU'VE GOT THE GREATEST SCHOOLS AND POOR GOVERNMENT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO DO US ANY GOOD BECAUSE THE POOR SCHOOLS, THE GOOD SCHOOLS WON'T BE USED IN THE MANNER IN WHICH I MAY ASK YOU THIS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK WE'VE HAD BAD GUNS AND ROUND NUMBERS? UH, ABOUT THE SAME.

THEY DECIDED TO AWARD THOSE SECRET CONTRACTS AND PUT THE TRASH PROBLEM THAT WOULD CROSS AROUND HER NECK.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU THINK IT WAS ALL RIGHT UP TO THAT POINT.

UM, IT PROBABLY HAD ABOUT AS MANY WEAKNESSES AND FIREBALLS AS MOST AS MOST.

WELL, WELL, MY POINT IS, IF WE CALL IT, WE CALL EVERYTHING TO A HALT UNTIL WE ALL HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT WE'VE GOT GOOD GOVERNMENT.

WE MIGHT ALL BE WALKING AROUND IN A PICKLE BARREL, NO MATTER HOW THEY COMPARE TO SATS ANYMORE.

SOMETIMES WHEN THERE'S A FIRE, YOU GOT TO THROW A BUCKET OF SOMETHING ON IT.

YEAH.

OH, RANDY, WE'VE GOT THE MOST EFFICIENT GOVERNMENT, UH, OF, UM, WHAT WERE THE TOP 10 IN EFFICIENCY, BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT A VERY, A VERY GOOD BENCHMARK.

I THINK SAT SCORES ARE MUCH BETTER BENCH MARK.

AND REGARDLESS OF HOW WE TWIST THE NUMBERS AROUND AND TOSS THEM BACK AND FORTH AND PICK WHAT PORTIONS WE'RE GOING TO USE TO COMPARE OUR SCHOOLS WITH THE SAD FACT IS THAT ACROSS THE NATION, MOST

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PEOPLE USE SAT SCORES AS A VERY IMPORTANT BENCHMARK, BUT YOU DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH ONE GROUP TAKING THE TOP 10 OF 15% OF THEIR STUDENTS AND GAVE IT TO THEM.

AND THE OTHER GROUP TAKEN ALL THAT DOWN TO THE 50TH 60TH PERCENTILE AND GIVE IT TO THEM.

AND IT'D BE AN AMAZING FACT THAT THE ONES THAT GIVE IT TO THE LITTLE ELITE GROUP AT THE TOP SCORE HIGHER, YOU DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT? I DON'T THINK THAT'S EXACTLY THE CASE.

YOU DON'T KNOW.

THAT SEEMS TO BE ONE.

I GOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T PAY AS YOU PUT IT BEFORE THESE PEOPLE TO COME UP HERE AND CAN'T COUNT.

NO, NO.

I SAID ANYBODY THAT CAN SEE THAT THAT'S NOT APPLES AND APPLES THAT YOU DON'T DESERVE TO EVEN KNOW.

AND IF YOU CAN'T WOW, IF WE'RE NOT PLAYING BY THE SAME RULES WE PLAY BY THE SAME RULES, WHAT ROOMS ARE THEY? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE OTHER SCHOOLS, THE OTHER STATES USE A DIFFERENT RULES ON THE SAP.

THE OTHER STATES HAVE LESS PEOPLE THAT TAKE IT BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE ONES THAT ARE COLLEGE BOUND.

AND I KNOW EVEN THE BACK, AS FAR AS WHEN I WENT IN SCHOOL, MOST, I THINK EVERYBODY TOOK IT.

THEY JUST SAY SAYING THAT, AND NOT EVERYBODY, BUT I BELIEVE WE ALL TOOK IT.

AND THAT, THAT IS THE POINT.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET THE GUY THAT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN MAKING A 400 OR 500 WHERE THE AD IS MAKING IT WELL ON A 500 AND 1500 AVERAGE IS OUT IN THE WALL A THOUSAND.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT VERY FAIR TO EITHER GUY, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ARGUMENT.

BUT THE POINT, THE POINT WHEN WE NEED YOU TO GET TO THE POINT AND THE POINT I THINK IS THAT IT'S WELL, THE REAL BOTTOM LINE IS PEOPLE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT ON THE SEVENTH.

SO, SO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY LIKE IT FINE, IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT, FINE, WHATEVER.

YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.

UM, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE THINGS AND I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.

UH, THERE'S ONE OR TWO ETCHING OUT HOW TO GET UP.

I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW AND GIVE YOU A NICHE ON YOUR PROPAGANDA.

THAT SAID A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SHOCKED AND ASTOUNDING THAT JUST NOT EVEN GOT THE MATERIALS COMPLETELY CLEANED UP.

IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE LAST CONSTRUCTION JOB THERE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE NEED 10 MORE CLASSROOMS THERE.

I'M SURE COULD PULL OUT SOME PLANS AND DUSTED OFF, OH, THESE ARE IDENTIFIED NEEDS.

AND WE NEED THIS MUCH MORE.

BUT I THOUGHT HE SAID THEY COULDN'T AFFORD TO BUILD EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? SO I WOULDN'T BE A SURPRISE TO ME THAT THEY FINISHED.

WELL, THEY WILL DO THAT.

THAT THE HOUSE IS ALL THE TIME.

IT'S ALL ADD ON BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD TO BUILD A BIG ENOUGH, I GOT ENOUGH MONEY.

YOU'LL NEVER GET ENOUGH MONEY.

IF WE WAIT FOR THE SPIRIT PART OF THE COUNTY BOARD, THE CITY BOARD TO SAY, HEY, WE WERE NEVER GOING TO SEE THAT THEY JUST TAXPAYER THE ONE THAT HAS TO CUT IT OFF SOME FIRST, UM, ANOTHER THING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADDRESS, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

I DON'T THINK YOU'LL CHANGE YOUR MIND ON IT, BUT I JUST DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE FINANCING.

THINGS LIKE COMPUTERS AND COPY MACHINES AND THINGS THAT LAST 30 YEARS I TAKE THE VONS ARE GOING TO BE AT LEAST 30 A YEAR AND THEY SHOULD ONLY FINANCE THE BUILDING STRUCTURE WITH THESE VOLUMES.

HOWEVER, UM, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE MINOR POINT SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THE AIR CONDITION OF THE GYMNASIUMS? UH, I TAKE IT AT FACE VALUE OF WHAT WAS SAID THAT WE USE THEM FOR OTHER THINGS BESIDES PLAYING SPORTS.

BUT I DIDN'T THINK ALL OUR SCHOOLS WERE ON A YEAR-ROUND BASIS.

UM, DID I MISS OUT ON THAT? ARE WE ON A YEAR-ROUND SCHEDULE NOW? CAN I CALL UP A POINT OF ORDER PLEASE? YOU KNOW, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE, ARE RESERVED FOR REQUESTS OF THE THREE AND PETITION, BUT WE ARE RAMBLING.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU THAT COURTESY.

I DOUBT UNLESS SOMEBODY CAN CORRECT ME.

I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT WE'RE HAVING NON DCM NATIONS IN FULL USE IN JULY AND AUGUST.

AND I ANSWERED THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE SCHOOL SCHEDULE.

WHEN I WENT, I KEEP BRINGING THAT UP.

I'M SCARED SOMEBODY IS GOING TO LOOK AT MY ATTENDANCE RECORD.

I WAS THERE SOME OF THE TIME, BUT ANYWAY, UH, I REMEMBER QUITE A FEW DAYS IN AR AN AIR CONDITIONER, A OLD CENTRAL SCHOOL, WHEN IT WAS GOD AWFUL HOT, I'LL JUST PUT IT TO YOU THAT WAY.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT MONTH THEY WERE.

AND IT WAS A LONG TIME.

IN FACT, UH, WHEN YOU WERE LATE FOR CLASS AND YOU HAD TO PAY FOR IT BY STAYING AFTER SCHOOL A HALF HOUR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO NOW.

SO I STAYED MY SHARE AFTER SCHOOL HALF HOUR.

IT WAS, IT WAS, I COULD RELATE TO WHAT THE PREACHER WAS TALKING ABOUT ON SUNDAY WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT WHERE YOU GO, IF YOU WEREN'T A GOOD BOY.

AND I USED TO ASK HIM IF HE WAS GOING TO BE ANY HOTTER IN DETENTION.

OH, IT WAS AROUND FOUR 30.

I DIDN'T WANT NO PARTS OF, OH, I CAN TELL YOU HE IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAS WORK, BUT THEY WERE HOT AS A SCHEDULE THAT MUCH DIFFERENT SO I MEAN THAT, IN OTHER WORDS, THE ONE SAN POSITION THAT WE'RE GOING HERE AROUND,

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AND THEN THE OTHER TWO MAYORS IS THAT MR. ROB, HE SAID SCHOOLS YEAR ROUND, THE SCHOOLS ARE NOT PER SE YEAR ROUND, BUT THE SCHOOLS AND THE SUPERINTENDENT MIGHT CORRECT ME ON THIS.

BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINKERS BEHIND THE ADMINISTRATION IS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERED COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.

AND WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS ACTIVITIES ARE BEING TAKEN PLACE AT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS YEAR ROUND.

THEY'RE TAKING PLACE IN THE SCHOOL CLOSED IN, IN JUNE, JULY, WHENEVER THE SCHOOLS AND MAY THE SCHOOLS ARE STILL AVAILABLE FOR ORGANIZATIONS TO USE THE CHAMPS OR THE AUDITORY.

AND EVEN IN SOME PLACES, THEY HAVE SOME SPECIAL TUTORING CLASSES GOING ON IN SOME OF THE SCHOOLS.

SO BEING A COMMUNITY SCHOOL, BEING GEARED TO WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE SCHOOLS ARE AVAILABLE YEAR ROUND.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE YEAR-ROUND, UH, IDEA THERE.

LET ME EXPLAIN ALL OF A SUDDEN MY POSITION.

I KNOW THIS I'M ON THE BOARD, EVEN DON'T UNDERSTAND, UH, WHY ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT REALLY ON THE AGENDA AND ALL THIS TYPE OF THING THAT MAY EXPLAIN THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.

THERE IS A GENERAL PERCEPTION BY THE PUBLIC OF WHICH WE, ALL THE MEMBERS CAME TO MAYOR.

I WAS DEFINITELY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AS MR. RAUL WAS IN OTHERS.

THAT WHEN YOU AVOID ANSWERING A QUESTION OR WHEN YOU MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE OR WHATEVER, THAT YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING TO HIDE, THE STRANGE AND WONDERFUL THING IS, AND I'VE BEEN THE MAYOR NOW ALMOST TWO YEARS, AND I'M NOT QUITE A BATHROOM OR AN EXPERT.

AND I TOLD SOMEBODY THE OTHER DAY, IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING.

I'VE HAD NOBODY COME TO ME AND SAYING IT WAS WRONG OR ANY STRANGE THING.

DID YOU ALWAYS THOUGHT IT MUST BE GOING ON BECAUSE IT'S SO QUIET AND IT'S OVER THERE AND IT'S BEHIND SOME WALL OR WHATEVER.

AND IF I DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE, I WANT TO TRY MY BEST TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT, UH, THIS IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT GOES ON.

AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY CAN SIMPLY ANSWERED AND THAT'S IT.

BUT WHEN YOU DON'T ANSWER, YOU RUN AND HIDE IT'S.

I MEAN, I'D RATHER BE ON THEM WATCHING THEIR GAMES AND IT WAS ON THAT MYSELF.

BUT THE POINT IS, AND I HOPE YOU ALL BEAR WITH ME.

I THINK THE MORE WE DO OF THIS, THE MORE OF A SERVICE WE'RE DOING, NOT ONLY THE JONAH WITH THE PEOPLE THAT COME UP WITH THE QUESTIONS AND MOST, ESPECIALLY THE PUBLIC HEARS ONE SIDE OF IT.

SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THEY GO, YEAH, WHY DON'T THEY DO THIS? OR WHY DON'T THEY WONDER WHY THAT ANSWER IS? SO THAT'S THE REASON I DO THESE THINGS.

NOW YOU CAN STILL PRETESTING IT'D BE AGAINST IT, BUT AT LEAST I EXPLAINED IT.

SO, YEAH.

OKAY.

LAST THING I WANT TO SAY.

UM, ALTHOUGH I DON'T BEGRUDGE THE AMOUNTS OF MY TIME AND YOU FOLKS ARE USING, UM, NO, BECAUSE WE GRANTED SO WE CAN TAKE IT TO $8 AND I THINK AN IMPROVEMENT OVER SOME YEARS RECENTLY PASSED, WELL, NOW I WOULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT GO AHEAD AND DONATE IT TO NO, NO, NO.

I WAS SHOCKED.

THEY COVERED MY BACKSIDE.

OKAY.

WHEN IT COMES TO PREDICTING THE FUTURE ONE MAN'S PREDICTION IS ABOUT AS GOOD AS ANOTHER.

I RECOMMEND.

AND ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO DO, NOBODY KNOWS.

I THINK IF THIS CALLS WERE NOT ON THE WRITTEN INTO THIS BOND PROPOSAL ABOUT, UH, THE COUNTY, UH, BEING REQUIRED TO LEVY AT THE TAX PROPERTY TAX TO PAY FOR THE BOSS, HOWEVER IT READS, IF THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THERE, NOBODY WOULD BUY THE DARN BONDS.

AND IF NOBODY BUYS BONDS, WE WOULDN'T GET ALL THIS MONEY THAT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE FIGHTING OVER HERE.

IT HAS TO BE IN THERE AS MUCH ON THE BENEFIT OF THE BONE BUYERS AS IT DOES FOR ANYBODY ELSE.

UM, IF THE SALES TAX PLUMMETS AND, AND IT MIGHT WELL DO THAT, UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPECT TO HAVE THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.

I DOUBT THEY CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO INCREASE YOUR SALES TOO.

BUT WITH THAT, I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH IT.

I MAY ASK YOU ONE QUESTION.

I GET THAT COLOMBO COMPLEX.

AGAIN, ONE MORE THING.

WOULD YOU AGREE? AND I THINK YOU WILL KNOW.

I'M JUST GUESSING THAT WHEN THEY PROMISED SOME THINGS IN THE COUNTY, THAT THE COUNTY SPENDS MONEY ON THE CITY FOR THAT MATTER, WHOEVER THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT PRESENTLY.

SO WOULD YOU NOT AGREE TO THAT? IN OTHER WORDS, THE JOB OF THE DOLLAR OF THE DOLLARS THAT THE COUNTY SPANS AND I'LL INCLUDE THE CITY WITH THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS MEANS I'M SURE THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF IT THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH, WHERE IT'S GOING, WHAT IT'S BEING SPENT FOR.

RIGHT? SO MY POINT IS THAT IF INDEED SOMETHING HAPPENED DRASTICALLY TO THE SALES TAX, IT IS NOT AN AUTOMATIC GIVEN THAT THE DISSIPATED, THE PROPERTY TAX WOULD HAVE TO BE RAISED AND PAID FOR THESE BONDS, WOULD IT NOT BE TRUE THAT THE OTHER AVENUE WOULD BE TO NOT SPEND MONEY ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAYBE EVEN YOU CONSIDERED WASTEFUL, JUST PAY OFF HIS DEBT, OH, WORDS, YOU AIN'T GOT TO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES.

YOU CAN CUT DOWN ON SPENDING ON SOME OTHER THINGS.

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SO MY POINT IS THAT AUTOMATICALLY SAY THAT IF THE SALES TAX GOES DOWN, PROPERTY TAX, IT HAS TO GO UP IS TO PRESUPPOSE THAT THERE'S NEVER ANY CUT IN SPENDING.

AND SOME GOVERNMENTS HAVE DONE THAT EVEN, EVEN, UH, CONGRESS HAS DONE IT AND OTHERS HAVE DONE IT.

AND IF ENOUGH PUBLIC PRESSURE WAS PUT ON, MAYBE WE COULD DO IT.

THE OTHER THING THAT I LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT IF THE SALES TAX REVENUE GOES DOWN FOR ANY REASON, OTHER THAN A DESERT STORM, TEMPORARY TYPE OF THING, UH, WE AS A COUNTY AND A STATE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE'LL BE IN SO MUCH MORE SERIOUS TROUBLE IS LIKE, MY WIFE HAS ASKED ME MANY TIMES WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IF WE COULDN'T PAY OUR PROPERTY TAX, WHEN WE WERE 65 YEARS OLD, WE'LL LOSE EVERYTHING.

I SAID, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

BUT IT'S KINDA LIKE, OH, UH, UH, WHAT WAS HIS NAME? SAMSON.

WHEN HE CUT HIS HAIR OFF AND PUT HIS EYES OUT.

WHEN HE PULLED THE TEMPLE DOWN, HE GOT THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN.

RIGHT? WELL, THE POINT IS, IF IT GETS BAD ENOUGH, I KNOW YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND AS A COMPANY, YOU'RE LIKE BUTTON, BUT IF IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT I PROPERTY, NOT PROPERTY TAX, BUT SALES TAX TAKES A PROMINENT NOSEDIVE OVER WHAT IT IS TODAY.

AND THAT'S WHERE MATT, WHAT DID THIS ALLOW FOR INFLATION? EVEN WITH NO GOOD THINGS HAPPENED.

THEN WE WOULD BE IN SUCH A STATE AS A COUNTY AND A CITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE UNTIL THIS THING WOULDN'T EVEN BE ANY CONSIDERATION.

WE'D BE IN DEEP THAT THING THAT JOHNNY, WELL, DICK MOORE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT PILE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE IN.

SO I'M NOT USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE, BUT I'M SAYING SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, WE HAVE TO CRACK A LITTLE BIT OF FAITH IN OURSELVES AND OUR ABILITY TO MAKE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN.

IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT FAITH AND PRESSED AND OUR ABILITY TO TRY AND MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.

AND WE NEED TO JUST SET ASIDE AND WAIT FOR THINGS TO HAPPEN TO US.

AND THAT'S NOT REALLY MY NATURE ANYWAY, THEN HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT ALL OF THAT NATURE.

SO ANYWAY, I'M WILD AND I'M OUT OF DIET PEPSI AND FORGET IT.

I WAS LIKE, I EXPECT STATEWIDE SCHOOL BOND THAT WILL BE PUT BEFORE THE VOTERS IN 1996.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

WELL, I HEARD GOVERNOR HUNT AT COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

WE HIM ON BEHALF OF THE TREND, THE COUNTIES, AND SO FORTH.

AND THEN I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL PASS.

IF THIS ONE PASSES, THIS ONE PASSES.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THAT MUCH OF A CRISIS IF NEITHER ONE.

I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT.

NOT ABOUT WHETHER IT PASSES OR NOT, BUT I JUST HOPE, WELL, WE'RE NOT IN A CRISIS.

THAT'S MY WHATEVER.

SO WHO'S NEXT.

AND I'M ACTUALLY YOUR MAYOR.

PROTIUMS IF YOU'D LIKE, I'VE GOT TO GET THEM BACK.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

JUST A SECOND.

I GOT NO OFFENSE, BUT I GOT TO GET ME TO NO, NO, RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY NAME IS MILLER RANDOLPH RESIDENT.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS ISSUES THAT REGARDING THE MEMO, ALL FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS ON A, BUT THEN IN THAT MEMO MINUTE STATEMENTS ON MY I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH MANY OF THEM.

MR. MILLER STATES, THAT MY REASON IS THAT WERE THEY COME UP WITH AT LEAST THREE AND ONE REASONING IN A LEGAL DOCUMENT, WHICH THIS MEMO IS NOT.

AND I THINK THAT MY REASONING IS NOT COOL.

AND IT'S ALL, IT SEEMS THAT IT'S ALL EXCUSED AT THE CITIES.

THEN IT COMES UP WITH THE KEY CORRECTLY PROBLEMS THAT EXIST IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY.

UM, AND OF COURSE, OH, IT WAS THE MENTAL STATES THAT I FEEL,

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SHE FEELS THAT THE PAYMENT WAS SENT CLOSE TO THE DITCH LINE, WHICH WOULD IN TURN, KEEP FROM HAVING TO RESET.

OKAY.

AND IT SAYS HERE THAT I ASKED MS. RANDOLPH, IF SHE WOULD BE WILLING TO GRANT AN EASEMENT OR DEDICATED A PORTION OF HER PROPERTY TO CONSTRUCT THE TURN AROUND.

AND SHE ADVISED ME THAT SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO DO SO WELL, AT LEAST NOT MY WORDS.

THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED OF ME RIGHT HERE, SLEEPING HERE TONIGHT.

AND I, MY, MY REPLY WAS THAT ON THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED AND LEAST STANDING RIGHT HERE AT THE JULY.

AND, UM, MY REPLY WAS TO THE BOARD THAT THERE WAS NO LAND TO GIVE UP BECAUSE OF THE PIPE THAT THE CITY HAD PUT DOWN FOR THE WATER TO DRAIN OFF INTO THE CANAL THAT TOOK TWO FEET.

I HAVE NO PROPERTY ON THAT SIDE OF THE OPEN PIPE.

I HAVE PICTURES THAT I SHOW.

OKAY.

AND ALSO HIS PARDON ME, HIM.

IT SAYS HERE, MIND ASSESSMENT, I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT ALL BECAUSE IT'S TOO MUCH THAT MY ASSESSMENT OF THAT SITUATION IS THERE IS NO REAL SITES OF CALM, WHICH EXISTS AT THAT LOCATION.

THE STREET IS SIGNED AS A DEAD END.

AND EVEN, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT THERE, THE TRAFFIC IS VERY UNKNOWN EVEN.

UM, AND EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE NICE TO PROVIDE A TURN AROUND DUE TO THE LACK OF DEDICATED RIGHT AWAY, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE FEASIBLE.

NOW, MR. MADDOX DOES NOT KNOW WHAT COMES DOWN THAT BLOCK FROM IT'S DOWN TO THE CAMILLE.

AS I SLATE THIS, THAT COMES IN AND ALL OF IT TO DO THE DIAMOND SAID, EXCUSE ME, JUST A MINUTE, DANNY, IF YOU EVER DON'T, WE HAVE ONLY ONE OF THOSE TRAFFIC COUNTERS IN THE CITY.

WOULD YOU PLEASE INSTALL ONE? I SAID, OKAY, WE WILL COUNT THE NUMBER OF CARS.

AND I'M NOT A THING WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS THE FACT THAT THERE ARE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, 13 OF THE IMPROVE DID DNA WEEKS WITHOUT, AROUND, OR ADEQUATE RIGHT AWAY FOR ONE TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND NICE THAT MANY MORE GOOD JOB PLAYED IN ROUTE FOR 18, ALL BUT ALL IMPROVED DADDY AND SO ON IMPROVED THE WHATEVER, BUT THAT'S NOBODY'S PROPERTY BEING DESTROYED OR DAMAGED AS MUCH AS MINE.

SO IT SAYS HERE, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MS. RANDOLPH FILE A POLICE REPORT PROPERTY IS DAMAGED OR MOVE THE CHAIN IN BALLERS.

THOSE, UH, ALLEVIATE THE CHANCE FOR DAMAGE TO PROPERTY.

.

UM, PLEASE, THE BOARD I CAME DOWN WITH HERE YESTERDAY, GOT THE POLICE.

I HAD TO CALL THE POLICE IN ONE THURSDAY, BUT I HAVE THE POLICE REPORT AND I DID THAT.

UM, THE POLICE REPORT AND REPORT IT TO THEM.

HE ALSO SUGGESTED THAT I REMOVED THE CHAIN FROM THE DRIVER.

OKAY.

I HAVE NO INTENTIONS.

WHAT I HAVE DONE HAS BEEN DONE TO OPERATE IT OR TRYING TO UNIFY YOU WOULD NOT SUGGEST TO A RESIDENT THAT WAS LIVING, UH, IN THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD

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OR A NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO THIS.

SO DON'T ASK ME TO DO IT.

I REVIEW, ALL RIGHT HERE, I'LL TAKE A MINUTE HERE.

I DO HAVE A COPY OF THE POLICE REPORT AND I ALSO HAVE A COMP PREP ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT.

INSTEAD OF READING THIS TO THE LETTER, WHAT IS THE NO, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO DO? WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE? UM, I GOT THIS YESTERDAY.

YOU HAVE A COPY OF NANNY, A COPY OF THIS STUFF.

I HAVE ANOTHER COPY OF IT.

OKAY.

UM, NOW, UH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MAIL.

NOW I'M REVIEWING THE PROPOSED BUDGET, 19 95, 96, UH, IN JUNE AT THE LIBRARY, I WAS DOWNSTAIRS YESTERDAY, REVIEWING YO ADOPTED BUDGET, NOT ALL OF IT, BUT JUST ENOUGH TO FIND OUT WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR MANY, UH, UH, MONEY ALLOCATED FOR CERTAIN, UH, STREETS AND DRAINAGE FOR CERTAIN STREETS.

UM, I REVIEWED, BUT I SAW NON-CORE AREAS SUCH AS THE SUBDIVISION AREAS WHERE I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE OUT OF THERE, BUT I THINK IT WAS ME, ALL THE ISSUES THAT I HAD TO CALL THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT TO COME OUT AND CLEAN YOUR SEWER LINES, BECAUSE MY WASTE FOR MY HOUSE IS NOT GOING OUT AS IT SHOULD.

I HAD TO DO SO LAST YEAR.

SO THEY CAME OUT AND CLEAN THE LINE.

AND I WAS TOLD BY THE SUPERVISOR THAT IT HAD NOT BEEN CLEANED UP FOR MORE THAN NOT MONTHS BECAUSE OF THE EXTENT OF LINES THAT THEY HAVE TO CLEAN THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CALL, YOU KNOW, YOGA BALLS TO COME OUT AND DO THEIR JOBS WHEN IT COMES TO CLEANING, CUTTING DOWN NEEDS OF THAT CANAL, WHICH IN IT, EVERYTHING IS THROWN IN IT.

AND I REALIZED THEY CAME OUT TODAY AND CUT THE WEEDS.

BUT WHAT I CALLED AROUND THE LAST WEEK, UH, LAST YEAR, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, TO GET SOMEBODY TO COME OUT THERE AND CLEAN UP THIS SPOT, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO GO THROUGH THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT TO GET IT DONE.

AND I THOUGHT, WELL, IT WORKS.

DEPAUL WAS, YOU KNOW, IN CHARGE OF THAT, LET ME, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THIS LETTER? YOU GAVE HIM FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, ACCORDING TO WHAT I'M READING HERE, THEY DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT IS UNEXPECTED.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND? AND IT SAYS, AT LEAST YOU TOLD ME TO GET SOMETHING FROM, FROM THE SOURCES THAT I HAD CONTACT AND NOT JUST THAT, BUT THE POINT IS WHILE THEY MAY HAVE NOT, THEY HAVE NOT FOUND ANYTHING IN THERE, BUT THEIR OLDEST IN THERE, OR SOMEBODY

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IS DUMPING SOMETHING IN THERE.

WHAT THIS BOARD NEEDS TO DO IS GO OUT THERE AND INSPECT THAT THE WEEDS OF WHATEVER WITNESSES THAT GROWS IN THERE, THEY LEFT IT ALL THERE.

AND THE BIG RAINS CAN BLAST WHATEVER THEY IN THE BRAIN FROM THE CANAL FEEL UP.

NO, IT JUST FEEL IT COULDN'T GO OUT BECAUSE I GUESS IT WAS STOPPED UP.

LET ME, LET ME READ THIS LAST PARAGRAPH FOR THIS THING.

IT SAYS AN EXPLANATION FOR THE ODOR.

YOU SMELL TO BE THE EXPOSURE OF THE ORGANIC DEBRIS ON THE CANAL, BOTTOM TO THE AIR AT THE TIMES.

AND THE WATER LEVEL IS THAT A LOT OF DECAY, ORGANIC DEBRIS OFTEN RELEASES A VERY FERAL OAK.

I DO NOT KNOW HOW OFTEN, EXCUSE ME.

I DO NOT KNOW HOW THIS PROBLEM COULD BE CORRECTED AS THIS AS A NATURALLY OCCURRING PHENOMENON.

SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PEOPLE WERE SAYING IS, IS IT THE CANAL I HAD YOU GOING TO HAVE A FOUL SMELL EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, JUST BECAUSE OF NATURAL PHENOMENON.

SO, I MEAN, THE ONLY THING WE COULD DO IS EITHER CAMERA UP.

WE CAN NOW PUT PIPE THROUGH IT, WHICH I HAD CHECKED INTO WITH THESE PEOPLE BACK ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

AND THEY SAID IT WAS EXORBITANTLY EXPENSIVE AT THIS POINT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHILE I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I WOULD LIKE TO HELP.

THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING IS IT SEEMS TO BE ALMOST A CIRCULAR THING IS IT IS LIKE DANNY SAYS THE TURNAROUND BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, THAT HE'S HAVING PROBLEMS WITH GETTING A RIDE AWAY AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE WOULD NEED.

UH, YOU HAVE A POLICE REPORT THAT DOCUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE HAD DAMAGED SOMEBODY BACK IN.

I'M NOT THE KIND OF, I CALL IT THE LOOSE, THE CONCRETE AS A PRETTY HEALTHY LEG, BACK INTO MY PROPERTY AND RECENTLY, AND DOING IT BECAUSE THE STREET IS NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THEM.

AND IF YOU MOVE THAT STREET BEYOND MY DRIVEWAY, THEY COULD TURN AROUND AND GO ON BACK AND GO CRAZY OVER THAT GOING THROUGH BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT COMING TO VISIT ME.

THEY'RE JUST PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT.

AND I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT THAT SITUATION TO STOP THEM FROM DAMAGING MY PROPERTY.

AND I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING COULD BE DONE ABOUT, IS THERE ANY WAY DANNY, THAT YOU COULD PUT SOME KIND OF A TURNAROUND WITH, WITH THE LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE, EVEN IF YOU CAN'T GET RIGHT AWAY.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO JUST SEE IF IT HELPS ANY AT ALL.

I MEAN, THIS IS GETTING TO THE POINT NOW THAT IT'S GIVING ME A RASH IS THAT ABOVE WHERE MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A PERSONAL CONVERSATION.

THE STREET WHERE THEY CALL, HEY DOC, ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, GOOD TO PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE A SIGN MADE PUT ON THAT POST AND SAYS, IF YOU BACK INTO THIS POST, THE MAYOR HIMSELF WILL GO LOOKING FOR YOU.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

PLEASE DO.

YES, I DID.

UH, AND THIS ONE HAD OFFICE WILLING TO DO FIRST OFF.

I THINK

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CAN WE DO? AND WE GOT A AND IT IS WILL NOT BE WELL, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO DECIDE ON SOMETHING WITH DANNY.

YOU SAY IT WON'T SOLVE A PROBLEM, AND MAYBE I ASSESSED THE WRONG TIME AND WE SHOULD TAKE, IF SHE IS CONVINCED TO DOING WHATEVER WE'LL SOLVE A PROBLEM, MAYBE WE SHOULD GET HER TO AGREE THAT IF SOMEHOW WE CAN DO THAT THING AND IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT THAT'S THE END OF IT SOMEWHERE HAS GOTTA BE THE END OF THIS.

WELL THEN, HEY, WOULD YOU PLEASE LOOK INTO IT? WOULD YOU PLEASE FIND OUT FROM HER WHAT SHE WANTS SPECIFICALLY, AND THEN GO ABOUT TRYING TO FIND OUT IF HE CAN PROVIDE THAT.

AND AT THAT POINT I WILL TALK TO HER AND SEE IF SHE WOULD AGREE THAT IF THAT, IF YOU DO WHAT SHE SAY, ISN'T IT DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM.

NOW, WHAT IS THAT? LET ME SHOW YOU MY LEGS.

I MEAN, DON'T BE OFFENDED.

COME BACK AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME MOSQUITO BUCKETS AND I'VE SEEN THE DITCHES DRAINED AND CLEANED UP.

SO AND I AGREE THIS SITUATION WITH CHRIST, I'VE GOT THE SAME PROBLEMS YOU GOT AND YOU KNOW, THAT WATER DOES NOT ALWAYS STAND IN THAT CANAL THAT HAS JUST NOW BEGUN TO FEEL BACK UP.

WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THE DRINKS IS NOT KNOW THAT IT IS A PROBLEM.

I WAS OUT THERE ON MY OWN MYSELF IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, LOOKING AT THIS AND FURTHER DOWN AS I WALKED FROM WASHINGTON STREET DOWN THAT WAY, WHERE THE DITCHES NOW FILLED WITH WATER BECAUSE OF THE RAIN, THE DRAINS, MOST OF THE TIME, MOST OF THE SUMMER IS VERY DRY.

NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF TRASH IN IT, ESPECIALLY ON THE WASHINGTON STREET INDIVIDUALLY.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU PLEASE, IF YOU WILL CLEAN THAT BITCH OUT TRASH AND PERIODICALLY, WE DO NEED TO CLEAN THAT DITCH OUT.

IF WE CAN THEN AS IT EXTENDS ACROSS LOCAL STREET, AS IT EXTEND PAST MRS. RANDOLPH'S HOUSE, IT IS EXTENDED FROM WASHINGTON STREET DOWN MR. NEWKIRK'S PROPERTY LINE.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS WALKING.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CLEAN THAT DITCH OUT TO REALITY.

NOW IT HAS ONE, IT HASN'T BEEN DOING A LOT OF RAINING.

AND SO THE WATER WAS NOT STAGNATED.

AND THE STABBING IRAN PROBABLY BUGS, AS SHE SAID, WHICH ARE A LOT OF PLACES.

BUT THE WATER DRAIN SYSTEM THAT WE SPENT MONEY ON A FEW YEARS AGO INTO THAT DITCH AREA DOES WERE BAD.

PERFECT AND NOT PERFECT IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.

IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT OFTENTIMES MORE THAN IT USED TO BE, THAT BITCH IS USUALLY DRY.

MS. LEE, I LIVED THERE.

I KNOW.

WELL, LAST YEAR I WAS GOING TO WRITE THE SIDE, THE CESSPOOL FOR THE LAST YEAR, THAT MESS HAS POWER UP IN THERE.

WHENEVER WATER COMES IN AND DON'T GO NOWHERE BECAUSE THE DOMINANT FOCUS FEED INFANTS.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CALMED UP THERE.

OH, IN THE CEMETERY FOR YOU GOT THE COMPENSATION.

IT'S CLOGGED UP OVER IN THE SPACE CALLED UP.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE THROWING GARBAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN IT.

SO THE WATER CAN'T GO UP SO THAT I'M ASKING THEM, THEY

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WILL PERIODICALLY.

AND IF THEY WILL GO AND CLEAN THAT DITCH OUT, UNPLUGGED, THAT AREA GETS INTO THE JETSON.

HASN'T MISLED.

AND I SAID THAT IT'S USUALLY DRY.

IT'S NOT THAT USUALLY DRY.

IT'S USUALLY DRY AND WE'RE SPINNING AROUND IT A LOT LATELY.

BUT IF YOU WILL PLEASE FOR MS. RANDOLPH OR MR. NEWKIRK, AND FOR ME CLEAN OUT THE CREEK AND IT'LL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE, NOW THERE IS TRASH IN IT.

NOW, RIGHT NOW THERE WAS A LOT OF LIGHT FOR .

YES.

MA'AM IF YOU WILL HAS BEEN ADDED TOMORROW.

YES.

MA'AM BY WAY OF COMPLAINT BECAUSE WHEN IT DON'T RAIN, WATER COMES IN THERE FOR SOME BREAD.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM AND SEE THE WATER COMING, COMING FROM THAT WAY.

IT DOES COME DOWN THERE AND IT IS THE PROBLEM ALL THE WAY FROM LINCOLN, BUT THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

WASHINGTON STREET, ESPECIALLY MRS. IS HAVING A PROBLEM NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH, BECAUSE OF THE WATER STANDS IS CONSUMING THE LAND.

THAT'S WHY I CAME TO FOCUS BOARD YEARS AGO FOR THEM TO PUT A WALL.

YEAH, I'M ALONE THERE.

IT HASN'T BEEN POSITIVE.

WE DID NOT PUT A BOOK WHERE MR. DICKERSON LAND LAND HAS GONE OFF INTO RESIDENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND THEN IT CONSUMES ALL OF THAT LAND, ALL OF THOSE STREETS.

AND HE'S GOING TO PUT A TRAFFIC COUNTER UNLESS YOU SEE HIM.

I SEE HOW MANY CARS GO UP AND DOWN THAT STREET.

DANNY, DO YOU DANNY, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ADEQUATE ACCESS ALL ALONG THE BANKS OF THAT CANAL TO REALLY CLEAN IT OUT? OR IS THERE A, SOME, ARE THERE SOME AREAS YOU CANNOT GET TO FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER? THEY'RE NOT ALL THE WAY THERE IS NO EASY OR NOT OKAY.

WHY DON'T YOU GET ON? WHY DON'T YOU GET ON HER PROPERTY? UM, I SAID A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

MY TIME WILL BE UP.

I WON'T HAVE TO WORRY.

SO ANYWAY, THERE'S A MEETING GOING ON.

IS THERE ANYBODY LEFT? I'M SCARED TO ASK.

THANK YOU.

APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA SECOND.

OH YES.

MA'AM.

MAY I ADD ONE THING ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENT? THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN PLACED BEFORE.

IT'S A SMALL ONE TO INCREASE THE FIRE.

DEPARTMENT'S PROCREATION BY ABOUT $30,000 AS FOR THE MUSEUM, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THERE ALSO.

SO BE IT.

THAT WAS ONE OF OUR GOALS.

ALL RIGHT.

WE GOT A SECOND MAN ON THE REVISED CONSENT AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION, MAN? I'M SCARED TO LOOK.

NO.

PAUL, IN FACT, WELL, WE GOT TO HAVE A ROLL CALL.

I'LL GET THIS, RIGHT? YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

OKAY.

NOW WE HAD, LET'S SEE, NO PROBLEMS, NO PROBLEMS, NO PROBLEMS

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TONIGHT MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

UH, WHERE'S THE OTHER UH, I GOT ONE.

WE GOT TO DO MINUTE.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

MR. HARTMAN AND MYSELF HAVE TAKEN UPON OURSELVES TO TRY TO ARRANGE A MEETING WITH THE TOWN COMMISSIONERS OR CITY COMMISSIONERS OF HAVELOCK.

WE HAVE ATTENDED TO DATE OF WHAT? MR. HOFFMAN, OCTOBER THE 11TH, OCTOBER THE 11TH, JUST FOR US TO GET TOGETHER AND DO A LITTLE NETWORKING.

WAS I, IT SAID STUFF WITH ME TOO.

I MEAN, I ALWAYS MUST'VE BEEN MOUNTAIN AT THE SAME TIME.

IT IS.

I THINK IT'S A MUTUAL FRIEND AND WE JUST WANT TO SIT DOWN AND TALK.

WE ARE MAJOR PLAYERS AND WE NEED TO BE ON THE SAME THING THAT IS AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

AND SEE, THE AMAZING THING IS THEY'RE AMAZED THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO TALK AND THAT'S AMAZING.

I MEAN, REALLY WE, WE SHOULD'VE BEEN TALKING ON LONG.

I'M KIND OF AMAZED AT, I GUESS, OVER OR THE 11TH.

WE'LL HAVE ALL THE DETAILS OUT AND LET'S GO FOR, THAT'S FINE.

NOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THERE'D BE AN AGENDA THAT NIGHT OR WHETHER THEY WENT AND REMEMBER WHEN YOU AND I WERE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT, AND THEY HAVE LOCK HEADS DISCUSSED.

AND I THOUGHT THAT THE FIRST MEETING, WE WOULD JUST KIND OF HAVE A GET ACQUAINTED MEETING AND MAYBE SOMETHING WOULD TAKE OFF FROM THAT COMMITTEE.

AWESOME.

GOOD TO HAVE US ALL AT ONE TIME.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL READ THEIR, OKAY.

OKAY.

ANYTHING, IF YOU GOT ANYTHING TO DO, JUST REMOTE IN THE BASEBALL GAME.

OH, YOU MEAN THE SOFTBALL? I DON'T WANT TO GO ON RECORD.

IT'S LIKE I CAN SEE, I CAN'T SEE THAT.

WELL AS A DESERT, THAT MEANS THAT THE BALL IS COMING AT AND THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS.

I WON'T SEE IT UNTIL HE GETS.

JUST THINKING ABOUT ME.

I'LL BE THERE AND I'LL BE SWINGING.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IS THAT IT? I GUESS THAT'S IT.

IT'S BEEN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING.

SAY IT'S EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA'S VOLUME DEALER WITH A WIDER SELECTION OF YAMAHA WAVE RUNNERS AND KAWASAKI.

JET-SKIS SAIL TRAWLER.

THEY GIVE YOU THE BEST BRIBES.

YOU CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO BUY THE COMBO.

SHAKI, YAMAHA NEWBURN, WHETHER YOU'RE SHOPPING FOR RAY RUNNERS, JET-SKIS MOTORCYCLES OR ATV HONDA KAWASAKI, YAMAHA NEWBURN, JUST BE YOUR FIRST CHOICE FOR SELECTION AND PRICE COMPENSATION FOR YOURSELF.

I WEIGH 70 EAST NEWBURGH.

GARY JONES MENTIONED WRITING INSURANCE IS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THE ADDITION OF ADAMS JR.

TO THEIR PROFESSIONAL STAFF IS 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN CHORES, QUALITY OF SERVICE AND HOMEOWNERS ON HER WIFE OR BUSINESS INSURANCE CALL ADAMS JR.

AT GARY JONES REACHING RIGHT INSURANCE, 6 3 7 5 1 4, 3 NATIONWIDE AND ADAMS JR.

WE'RE ON YOUR SIDE.

I'M ALL OVER THE PARKWAY.

FIND

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THE RESTAURANT.

WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW YOU JUST A FEW OF OUR BLUE LIGHTS GO OUT AT LEAST TWO EXPOSURES.

EVERY DAY WE COOK FRESH POSTERS.

WE DO NOT USE BAKING DRINKS FOR SEASON OR HALF OF WHAT'S UP IN FOUR TO FIVE YEARS AND STILL RUNNING AT ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING AND NEWBORN.

WE GUARANTEE YOUR MONTHLY ELECTRIC BILL THAT'S BECAUSE OF ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING.

OUR HOMES ARE BUILT RIGHT FROM THE START USING ONLY TOP QUALITY MATERIALS INSIDE.

NOW THAT'S WHY WE CAN GUARANTEE YOUR MONTHLY ERECTORS BILL.

WE HAVE MANY MODELS TO CHOOSE FROM, FROM SINGLE-WIDE TO DOUBLE-WIDE TO LUXURIOUS.

SO CALM TO ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING IN NEWBURN ON HIGHWAY 17 SOUTH AND REMEMBER ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING IN NEWBURN IS THE HOME OF THE GUARANTEE.

THE ELECTRIC BILL