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I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING IS PROBABLY WITH PARALLEL.
ALL RIGHT, LET ME GET MY RECIPE.
THEN WE'LL CALL THE MEETING DOOR AND LOCK YOUR HANDS HERE.
I DON'T SEE YOU MUST HAVE SAMSON.
WOULD YOU, UH, SAY THE INVITATION FOR I HAVE FALL.
IT'D BE ON ME TO COME AND FOR YOU TONIGHT, HOMERS TO FALL LEAN, AND DEPENDING ON YOUR WORD, HOW MUCH FATHER, LET US REMEMBER TONIGHT, FATHER, THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE REAL FOR HIS FOUND YOU WERE TO THE END OF HER FATHER.
WE ASKED THE SPECIAL BLESSING KNIFE, ALL THOSE HERE, FATHER, THAT'S THE FETCH UP LESSON FOR THOSE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, EVEN GUIDE THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
ALMOST SAID, FOLLOW ME, REALIZED TONIGHT, FATHER, THAT WE HAVE PROBLEMS EVERYWHERE WHO MUST HAVE FOLLOWED ME, REALIZED, THOUGHT EVERYTHING BACK TO EGYPT, FOLLOWING THE PLAGUES IN EGYPT LAND, BUT MUCH THE FATHER COULD SEE OUT A REAL BOOK.
FATHER MUST BE A SPECIAL BLESSING AT NIGHT.
$5 REBELS WOULD BE CLEANED UP ALMOST TO FOLLOW.
NOT ONLY ARE REBELS FOLLOWED, BUT TO BE ASKED THE BEST, THE BEST THE FATHER FOR THE POOR OH FATHER.
THOSE WHO CANNOT HELP THEMSELVES.
FATHER WHO MUCH THE FATHER GO ALONG WITH US.
FATHER, LET US REALIZE THAT WE'RE ALL BROTHERS KEEPER.
WE ASK TO BE ANOTHER BLESSING IN JESUS' NAME.
WE PRAY AND CONDUCT ON YOU, MAN.
FIRST THING YOU HAVE DENIED IS THAT MONTHLY REQUEST AND PETITION OF CITIZENS.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LARGE GROUP OF YOU HERE THAT WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE PROMISE CENTER DOWN NEAR RIVERSIDE.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING ACCORDING TO JUNIORS IS IT HAS TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD YET.
UH, MS. UH, REVEREND JACKSON AND I SPOKEN AND I THINK HE SPOKE TO SOME OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ALSO.
AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE BASICALLY THEY'RE AGAINST HAVING THE HOMELESS SHELTER PUT TO WHERE IT HAS BEEN PLAYING.
BUT RIGHT NOW, UH, REVEREND JACKSON, YOU MIGHT WANT TO COME TO THE PODIUM RIGHT NOW.
THE, THE ISSUE, UH, HAS NOT GONE BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AT ALL.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL GO FIRST AND I'LL TURN, IT CAN EXPLAIN BETTER TO YOU HOW THAT WORKS, BECAUSE I THINK FOR YOU TO COME TONIGHT, UH, IN PROTEST IS FINE, BUT I THINK THE PROTEST PROBABLY SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
AND THE ATTORNEY CAN ADDRESS THAT BETTER THAN I CAN.
YES, I BE HAVING TO YOUR BEING HERE TONIGHT, REALLY, AND FREEMAN UNTIL THE MATTER, IF NOT BEFORE THIS BOARD TONIGHT, IT'S NOT YET.
BEFORE THIS MORNING, IT HAS TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT IF ANYONE'S SHOULD SUGGEST THAT THE HOMELESS SHELTER BE BUILT THEIR OWN CYPRESS STREET, IT REQUIRES A CHANGE OF ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, AND THEN WOULD COME BEFORE THIS BOARD ON A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE HELD BY THIS BOARD ON THAT REQUEST.
SO IT'S NOT BEFORE THIS BOARD.
UM, I HAVE LEARNED THAT, UH, CERTAIN PEOPLE WAS TRYING TO AVOID GETTING UP EVERY ZONE AND THEN TALKING WITH, UH, SOME OF THE FISHES HERE AT SYDNEY CITY OF WEAVERS SPECTRUM OFFICE.
I INQUIRED, COULD THAT BE DONE? COULD THEY BUILD WITH THE ZONE AS IT IS? AND I WAS INFORMED THEY COULD LOW INCOME HOMES OR APARTMENTS FOR INSURANCES.
PEOPLE ARE IN CLASS HAS BEEN TELLING ME, YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE STAY THERE THAT FREE.
SO WE WAS CONCERNED AS TO WHETHER THEY WAS TRYING TO BUILD THESE HOMES, THESE HOMES OR APARTMENTS, BUT THAT HABIT REZONED.
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AND SO THIS IS WHY I BECAME TO MAKE OUR VIEWS KNOWN TO THE BOARD OF ALMS. SO THIS WOULD NOT BE DONE WITHOUT HAVING TO REZONE.NOW, JIM JACKSON, UH, THE THING THAT HAD HAD COME BEFORE THIS BOARD, AND I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT WAS DONE IN A WORK SESSION, WAS THAT, AND AT THAT TIME THEY DIDN'T EXPLAIN TO THIS BOARD THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN DOING ANY TYPE OF CLOSE TO HOMES OR APARTMENTS OR ANYTHING.
IT WAS EXPLAINED TO US THAT IT WOULD ONLY BE ONE BUILDING SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY ARE BEING HOUSED IN.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY INFORMATION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO GO ON.
NOW, IF THEY COME BACK TO US WITH SOME OTHER PLANS, THEN THAT MAY CREATE ANOTHER ISSUE OR WE'LL CREATE ANOTHER ISSUE.
AND RIGHT NOW, LIKE I SAID, IT HADN'T COME BEFORE US.
AND THOSE CHANGES THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, THAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING HAS ONLY BEEN, I GUESS, PROBABLY BEFORE THE PLAN IS ZONING COMMITTEE.
AND IF POSSIBLE, I LIKE FOR MIKE TO UPDATE US ON THAT.
SO HAVE EVERYONE WOULD KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? IS IT POSSIBLE? SHE FOUGHT THEM TO BUILD THE HOMES OR BUILD APARTMENTS, ALL LOW INCOME TYPE HOMES WITHOUT GOING THROUGH YOU ON ITS OWN.
BUT THAT'S WHY YOU WERE TO CALL UP MIKE DAVID MEREDITH.
SO, UH, AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOUT, UH, APARTMENTS OR HOUSES BEING BUILT THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR LOW-INCOME PERSONS.
UH, THE AREA IS ZONE ARE A RESIDENTIAL, WHICH DOES, UH, ALLOW, UH, APARTMENTS TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
SO YES, THEY CAN BE CONSTRUCTED UNDER CURRENT ZONING WITHOUT ANY CHANGE.
NOW, A FACILITY SUCH AS A SHELTER, WHICH WAS, UH, POSED, UH, EARLIER ON WOULD REQUIRE A REZONING, BUT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES OR APARTMENTS CAN BE DONE.
RIGHT? I THINK THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE TRYING TO BYPASS THIS WITH THE LOW INCOME HOMES AND APARTMENTS WILL BE LESS.
THERE WAS FOOD TO SHELTER IN THE APARTMENT.
UM, SHELTER IS, UH, UH, A FACILITY FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, A LARGER NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT, UH, AN APARTMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S A SEPARATE, UH, ENTITY, A SEPARATE LIVING UNIT WITH ITS OWN BATHROOM, BEDROOMS, LIVING ROOMS, KITCHENS, AND SO FORTH THAT A FAMILY LIVES IN A SHELTER IS AN AREA THAT MIGHT PROVIDE THE SLEEPING ARRANGEMENTS.
BUT GENERALLY THE BATHROOMS KITCHENS ARE COMMUNAL.
AND YOU HAVE TYPICALLY A LARGER NUMBER OF FOLKS, UH, THAT MAY BE IN THERE.
I THINK UNDER OUR, UH, CODE, UH, SOMEWHERE AROUND 20 IS THE MAXIMUM OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
I KNOW THAT AT ONE TIME, THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE, BUT, UH, GENERALLY IT'S A COMMUNAL STYLE OF LIVING, UH, WITH SHARED KITCHEN AND BATH VERSUS A STANDALONE APARTMENT OR ACCOUNTS.
NOW, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD APARTMENTS, THE SHELL, THE CANDIES, THEY CAN'T USE IT AS A SHIELD.
IT WAS BEING VALUABLE, BUILD APARTMENTS IN THE NRA.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
BUT WOULD THAT PRECLUDE, UH, IT'S I'M SAYING IT AS APARTMENTS, BUT AT SAME TIME USING IT AS A HOMELESS SHELTER, RIGHT? IF IT, IF IT'S BEING BUILT, I UNDERSTAND THE REVEREND'S CONCERNED MYSELF.
IT'S WEST WEST YOUR OPINION NOW ON THAT, BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY, A HOMELESS SHELTER REQUIRED ZONING CLASSIFICATION BE BUILT IN A CERTAIN WAY.
THEY CAN'T BUILD SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY UNITS AND USE IT FOR SHELTER.
RIGHT? BUT HIS CONCERN IS THAT THEY BUILD SOMETHING THAT, UH, AS I WILL SAY, IT GOES, IT QUACKS LIKE A DUCK WALKS LIKE A DUCK, BUT WE GOING TO CALL IT A PIGEON, YOU KNOW, OH, WELL THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS IT WON'T WORK.
AND THEREFORE LIFE NOW THE LOW INCOME, LOW INCOME HOMES, THEY BUILD A HOME THAT SLEEPS AT FIVE FOOD FOR PEOPLE, ALL RIGHT.
I WANT TO PLACE TO STAY, BUT CLUES DIFFERENT THAN THAT PERSON STAYED AT NIGHT.
BUT SEE, SEE GRAM, IF MY UNDERSTAND IS, AND MIKE, PLEASE CLEAR ME FROM WRONG.
IF THEY BILL LOW INCOME AT A LOW INCOME HOME, THEN IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU RENTING IT, RENT, RENTING IT TO THAT PERSON, OR YOU SELLING
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IT TO THAT PERSON.ONCE THEY DO THAT, THEN THE SHELTER CANNOT RENT IT TO ME.
AND MY THREE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS AND THEN SAY, OKAY, LEAVE ROOM.
CAUSE WE'RE GONNA PUT SOME OTHER PEOPLE IN IT THAT, THAT WON'T WORK.
AND THEN INSPECTION DEPARTMENT WILL, WILL ENFORCE THAT YOU CAN'T, THAT THAT WON'T WORK WELL.
I WAS INFORMED BY THE FISHER OFFICIALS, THE CITY THAT INTEREST PEOPLE COULD STAY IN THE BOTTOM MONTHS WITHOUT TRYING, LET ME, OKAY.
MIKE SENT YOU THE ZONING FELLOW LAST YEAR SITE AS THE LIST OF INDIVIDUALS A THROUGH Z.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THEY ARE OR WHATEVER.
AND THE INTENT IS TO HOUSE THESE INDIVIDUALS AT NO COST OR WHATEVER.
HOW WOULD YOU DETERMINE THAT THIS HOMELESS SHELTER IS IN FACT NO LONGER HOMELESS SHELTER, SHELTER, ALL THOSE SAME PEOPLE THAT WERE INTENDED BEFORE LIVING THERE AND NOT AN APARTMENT OR A MULTI FAMILY DWELLING OR WHATEVER NOW FITS UNDER THE, I MEAN, DO YOU NEED A LETTER OF INTENT FROM THESE PEOPLE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD.
AND THESE ARE WHO WE'RE GOING TO HOUSE.
THE FIRE FELLA SAYS, NOTE, THIS COULD BE INTERESTING NOBODY'S AGREEMENT.
THE, UH, UH, THE BUILDING CODES WOULD BE DIFFERENT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE OR AN APARTMENT THAN IT WOULD A SHELTER, A MORE YOU KIND OF FACILITATE.
UM, YEAH, I WOULD THINK THAT, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DEFINE FAMILY, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO, UH, SET UP A FEW OR SEVERAL PEOPLE IN ONE HOUSE IN, IN CALL IT A FAMILY UP, UH, BASED ON SOME OF THE INTERPRETATIONS I'VE SEEN IN FLORIDA FAMILY IS IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE RELATED BY BLOOD OR MARRIAGE.
UM, SO YOU'RE ALMOST SAYING IT CAN BE DONE AND THEN, OKAY.
UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD TO REFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY SINCE I DON'T HAVE MR. GEORGE HERE WITH ME, NO, IT CAN'T BE DONE.
AND JUST LIKE, CAN FILL THE HOUSE.
AND IF YOU WANT TO USE IT FOR COMMERCIAL MATERIAL, YOU CAN'T DO WELL.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN STOP SOMEBODY FROM DOING IT'S ON ME LEGALLY, BUT ONCE WE KNOW ABOUT IT, WE SHOULD HAVE NO, BUT LET ME, LET ME SAY THIS.
THE CONCERN OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT IS NOT DEFINED BY WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE OR WHAT THE BUILDING'S MADE OUT OF AND HOW MANY ROOMS ARE IN THE BUILDING OR ANYTHING SUCH AS THAT, THE CONCERN OF THESE PEOPLE, UH, EVIDENTLY UH, SOMETHING ELSE.
AND ALL I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT NOT ANY WAY THAT WE CAN DEFINITIVELY YET TO BUILD IT, WHOEVER'S GOING TO BUILD THIS THING TO SAY THAT THEIR PURPOSE IS TO DO THUS AND SUTTON.
IN OTHER WORDS, ALL I'M SAYING IS IF THE THING IS GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN PURPOSE THAT IS KNOWN TO SERVE, LET'S ALL BE HONEST AND SAY, THIS IS THE PURPOSE IT'S GOING TO SERVE.
AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND TALK ABOUT IT.
AND IF IT, AND IF IT'S NOT GOING TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, WE NEED TO MAKE, MAKE THAT CLEAR.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST THAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER OUR RULES LAWS REGARDING, IF IT WAS, IF WE WERE MAKING A PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE MORE COMFORTABLE, IF WE COULD JUST SAY TONIGHT, IS THAT AN INSTRUCT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO INFORM US AS TO WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE DONE ON THAT PARCEL OF LAND PRIOR TO IT BEING DONE, RIGHT? BECAUSE SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WHATEVER THEY DO.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT TO DO IT ON PERMITTED OCCUPANCY OR SOMETHING IN ORDER TO DO IT.
SO WE CAN JUST SAY TONIGHT, WE'D LIKE VERY MUCH, IF SOMEONE MAKES A REQUEST FOR THE USE OF THAT PARCEL OF LAND, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AWARE OF THAT.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF WHATEVER INTENT THERE IS.
HI, BOB, BOB, IF IT DOES GO TO THE SHELTER, THEN WE'LL KNOW BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE REASONABLE.
I'M SAYING IF IT GOES TO THE SHELTER WOULD KNOW, BUT IF, YOU KNOW, JUST TO SATISFY THE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS, HAVING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE IS HAVING IN REGARDS TO MAYBE THERE'S SOME WAY AROUND THE RESULTING IS TO INSTRUCT YOU GUYS TO LET US KNOW WHENEVER THERE IS ANYTHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE ON THAT PARCEL OF LAND IN THE FUTURE, SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE, AND TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW JUST WHAT IS BEING PLAYED THAT WAY NOBODY'S BROADSIDED WITH ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU ARRIVED BY NEAR AND BUILDING.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO QUESTION, WHY IS THAT? I WAS JUST SPEAKING WITH THE FIRE MARSHALL.
AND HE REMINDED ME THAT UNDER, UH, I KNOW, UH, AND SOME OTHER AGENCIES HAVE DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS OF WHAT FAMILY IS, BUT UNDER THE STATE BUILDING CODE, IT TALKS ABOUT A FAMILY BEING RELATED, BLOOD OR MARRIAGE, AND, UH, UNDER THE, SO THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD RULE HERE.
UH, AND UNDER OUR, UH, CITY ORDERS, YOU CAN RENT
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OUT UP TO ONE ROOM PER HOUSE.UH, BUT YOU COULDN'T BE IN A SITUATION WHERE THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE UNRELATED INDIVIDUALS COULD LIVE IN THE HOUSE AND CALL THEMSELVES A FAMILY BECAUSE THAT WOULDN'T BE A FAMILY.
BUT IF YOU, WE, IF WE INTERRUPT YOU SO THAT WE WON'T GET ALL INTO THE TECHNICALITIES OF THE LAW AND THE ORDINANCES AND GET US OFF, TELL HIM IF YOU WILL, JUST AT THE TIME THAT SOMEONE BEGINS TO DEVELOP THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL OR WHATEVER PIZZA YOU MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE OF IT, THEN WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE THAT SOMETHING IS GETTING READY TO BE DONE.
AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT EXACTLY WILL BE DONE.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD TALK ABOUT OUT WASN'T SINCE THE LAWS VERSUS, BUT IF WE KNOW THE CITY RIGHT NOW IS POSING THAT SOMEONE IS PROPOSING SOMETHING.
BUT IF WE KNOW THAT SOMEONE HAS ASKED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, AND WHAT THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DO IS DEVELOP THAT PARCEL OF LAND.
IF YOU LET US KNOW, ARE YOU LEFT IN THE COMMUNITY, WOULD BE MADE AWARE THAT BISHOP JACKSON KNOW AND OTHERS WHO ARE CONCERNED THAT THE PARCEL OF LAND IS NOW BEGINNING TO BE DEVELOPED FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, RELAX THE MINDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
THAT THEY WILL FEEL THAT AFTER A WHILE THEY'RE GONNA LOOK UP AND IT'S THERE AND THEN NOTHING COULD BE DONE.
WOULD THAT BE LEGAL? UM, WITHOUT, UH, PASSING SOME TYPE OF, UM, RULE THAT HAS TO BE DONE, IF THERE ARE THEY ABIDING BY THE ZONING LAW, AS IT IS, COULD YOU JUST SAY HE MUST COME TO YOU AND THEN LAWS THEY'RE SAYING THEY CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU MAKING IT LEGAL.
WE CAN SAY THAT THEY LET US KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
WOULD IT BE REQUIRED? LIKE YOU BEEN SAYING? THE ONLY THING I WAS SAYING THAT WE WOULD ASK THEM TO DO IS TO LET US KNOW.
AND WHAT YOU WOULD KNOW IS IF IN FACT THEY'RE PLANNING TO FEEL A FAMILY HOME, OR IF EFFECTIVE PLANNING TO BUILD A SHELTER, NOW THEY CAN'T DO A SHELTER.
UNLESS YOU CHANGE THE ZONING RULES.
BUT IF SOMEONE DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL, BUT IF SOMEONE WANTED TO BUILD APARTMENTS THAT YOU SEEM TO THINK IT WILL, THEN WE WILL BE MADE AWARE AND WE'LL KNOW THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS BUILD AN APARTMENT ONE LAST INQUIRE.
WHAT IS YOUR OFFICIAL DEFINITION OF A HOMELESS SHUTTER? WHAT IS HOMELESS? WHAT THE TERM, HOMELESS, HOMELESS FOLKS WITHOUT A HOME.
THAT'S SEPARATE DEFINITION, BUT IT'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT.
BECAUSE IF THE PERSON, IF YOU HAVE A HOME OVER THERE AND THE PERSON STAY IN THE BACK, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO AND THE PERSON COME IN AND HE KNOWS I'M THERE.
HE WANTS TO PAY TO STAY FOR 30 DAYS AND I CAN LET HIM IN.
I HAVE FIVE APARTMENTS, FABULOUS APARTMENT.
HE JUST SAID, I DIDN'T SAY THAT, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE FIVE ACRES OF LAND, THEN WE'RE NOT GIVING ONE LOT IN FIVE WEEKS AWAY, YOU KNOW, CASE.
WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? ANNOUNCED? I MEAN, I REALLY, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T HAVE ANY BUTTONS TO PUSH OR WHATEVER MAX WANTS TO SAY.
SO THE, UH, THE HOMELESS SHELTERS, AS IT IS OPERATED, THIS COLUMN IS NOT JUST A FLOP HOUSE FOR ANYONE WHO WANDERS INTO TOWN AND DECIDES THEY WANT TO CAMP OUT HERE FOR 30 DAYS OR SO, THE PEOPLE WHO STAY THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TAKEN THERE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THEY DO FIND THEMSELVES IN A BAD SITUATION AND DO NOT HAVE A PLACE TO SLEEP FOR THEMSELVES OR THEIR FAMILY, FOR WHATEVER REASONS BE IT, THEIR CAR BREAKS DOWN, TRAVELING THROUGH TOWN, UH, AN UNEMPLOYED MAN, TRYING TO FIND WORK, UH, A FIRE SOMEONE'S HOUSE BURNS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEY NEED TEMPORARY SHELTER.
BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE REALLY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHO CAN GET ANYONE INTO THAT HOMELESS SHELTER.
IT'S JUST NOT AN OPEN DOOR FOR ANYONE WHO WANDERS IN OFF THE STREETS.
SO ARE, THEY'RE CAREFUL ABOUT THE PEOPLE THEY PUT THERE AND THEY ARE CAREFUL ABOUT THEIR BEHAVIOR WHILE THEY ARE THERE.
AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING THE COMPLAINTS BEING THERE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO ALLAY YOUR FEARS AS TO WHAT THE SITUATION IS WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE HOMELESS SHELTER.
UH, SECONDLY, THIS BOARD WILL NOT ALLOW ITSELF TO BECOME PART OF A DECEPTION TO THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA.
IF THERE IS A MOVE OR WHEN THERE IS A MOVE, OF COURSE, PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED.
RCS IS INTERESTED IN BUILDING THE SHELTER THERE, BUT
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WHATEVER IS TO GO THERE.THIS BOARD WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF WHAT IS TAKING PLACE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO SNEAK AROUND AND, AND BE PARTY TO SOMETHING, UH, THAT YOU WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.
WE, IT'S NOT OUR NATURE TO BE A PARTY TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THE THIRD THING, AND THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY IS WE'RE DEALING WITH RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY SERVICES AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR FROM THEM.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TRY TO SANDBAG YOU AND SLIP SOMETHING IN BEHIND YOU.
THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE NECESSARY PROCEDURES, THE NECESSARY NOTIFICATIONS TO THE PUBLIC AND WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO DO IT PROPERLY CONSCIENTIOUSLY IN A CHRISTIAN MANNER, WHICH IS THE WAY THEY OPERATE.
I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO FEAR ABOUT THE WAY ANY ACTION WILL BE.
THERE IS OF COURSE, THE POSSIBILITY YOU WILL DISAGREE WITH WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD THERE.
AND YOU WILL DEFINITELY HAVE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE YOUR POSITION KNOWN AT THAT TIME, BEFORE THIS BOARD VOTES ON ANY KIND OF A CHANGE IN THE ZONING, WHICH WOULD BE REQUIRED BEFORE A SHELTER CAN BE BUILT.
AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO BUILD APARTMENTS AND BE SNEAKY AND CALL THEM APARTMENTS AND REALLY USE IT FOR SHELTER, RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY SERVICES.
SO I THINK YOU WILL BE WELL AWARE OF ANY ACTION THAT'S BEING TAKEN IN CONNECTION WITH CONSTRUCTION ON THAT PROPERTY.
I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO FEAR ABOUT BEING AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
THAT'S THE TWO THINGS, UM, ONE LAWS YOU SAYING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU COULD COME IN AND THEY BREAK DOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, KEVIN, THE HOMELESS SHELTER.
THIS IS WHERE DANGELIZE THAT THEY MADE THE EPISODE.
THINK THEY KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL, BUT I READ THE PAPER.
PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHO COME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE DANGER IS AT ALL.
THEY MAY BRING THEM IN THERE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S DANGEROUS.
AND WE DON'T LIVE WITH THAT PERSON TO ROB SOMEONE, KILL SOMEONE, INCEST.
WE DID NOT KNOW THE SEPARATELY.
THE SECOND PART IS CONCERNING RELIGIOUS SERVICES.
I HAVE NO QUARREL WITH THEM, BUT SINCE THEY'RE A RELIGIOUS GROUP AND WE HAVE A CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET WHERE WE ATTEND SERVICE, THEY DON'T TEND TO THAT AREA.
SEEING THE ME AS THOUGH THEY WOULD HAVE CAME ACROSS THE STREET AND SAY, ROBIN, WE'LL THINK ABOUT DOING SO-AND-SO IN THIS AREA.
I, IF I WERE YOU, I BELIEVE I WOULD CONTACT THEM AND THEN EXPRESS CONTACT ME.
THAT'S WHEN THEY CONTACTED ME.
WELL, CERTAINLY THERE SHOULD BE.
THEY SHOULD'VE CONTACTED ME PRIOR TO, THEY SPENT TIME WITH YOU TRYING TO SAY AND BUILDING UP RELIGION SERVICES.
RIGHT? WELL, THERE, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN, THERE SHOULD BE CONTACT BETWEEN THE CHURCHES IN THAT AREA AND RUN THE OTHER THING TOO.
WHEN YOU SAID CONTACT, REMEMBER THAT IF IT EVER GOES, COME BEFORE THIS BOARD TO BE REZONED, ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT AREA WILL BE NOTIFIED OF THE REQUEST FOR REZONING.
SO YOU'LL BE NOTIFIED OF THAT.
THEN, THEN THE SECOND THING IS I THINK IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.
IF WE COULD POSSIBLY GET THE GROUP, THAT'S PLANNING TO DO THE SHELTER, JUST TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU OR WITH US, AND THEN INVITE YOU IN A WORK SESSION, LET YOU LET YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEIR INTENT IS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST PUT, AND THAT WAY WE HAVE THE INFORMATION FROM THEM, IT WON'T BE FROM OUR PLANNING GROUP.
IT WON'T BE FROM THIS BOARD, IT'LL BE DIRECTED FROM THOSE THAT PLAN TO DO THE PROJECT.
AND THEN THERE WON'T BE ANY FS AND, AND NO HEARSAY.
AND I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP US GET SOME ANSWERS THAT MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE RIGHT NOW.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT JUMPING THE GUN BEFORE IT HAPPENED, BUT IT'S GOOD THAT YOU PREPARED AND READY TO GO.
THEN THE OTHER THING IS TOO, IS THAT JUST INFO INFORMATION BURBS IS THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE KNOWS THIS, BUT WITH THE HOMELESS SHELTER, IF I'M, AND HOPEFULLY I'M GIVING YOU THE RIGHT INFORMATION, THEY ARE, THEY'RE BASICALLY JUST AT NIGHT TO HOUSE.
AND DURING THE DAY YOU HAVE TO LEAVE TO EVEN SEEK SOME TYPE OF EMPLOYMENT OR, OR SOMETHING.
BUT DURING THE DAY THAT THEY'RE NOT THERE.
SO, AND, AND SO THAT NO ONE THINKS THAT THIS IS THAT IT WOULD END UP BEING A HANGOUT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WHERE IT'S LOCATED DURING THE DAY, YOU DON'T, THEY SEE NO ONE THERE, SIX O'CLOCK, YOU MAY SEE THEM COMING BACK IN OR SEVEN IN THE MORNING.
THEY SEE THEM GOING OUT, BUT USUALLY YOU DON'T SEE IT.
I HEARD IT IS IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF A YEAH, BUT I THINK IF, I THINK IF WE GOT WITH THE GROUP, THAT'S PLANNING TO DO THIS AND DIRECT THOSE QUESTIONS TO THEM,
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I THINK WE CAN GET SOME ANSWERS WITHOUT, UM, TO YOUR POINT.UH, I MET WITH THE SERVICE AT THEIR REQUEST.
AND I WAS TREATED, TREATED VERY RUDE.
IN FACT, ABOUT THE MATTER AND OFFICIAL SERVICES HAD A YOUNG MINISTER TO GO TO THE CITY WIDE AND FINE AND GET UP AND TELL AN UNTRUTH.
UM, ME AND MY CHURCH SAID TO ME, HE WAS OPPOSED TO THE, THE, UH, SOUP KITCHEN.
AND THEY WANT TO GET A PETITION FOR EVERYBODY GETS APPOINTED A SOUP KITCHEN.
AND THEY KNEW TWO PEOPLE THAT WAS ATTENDING THE MEETING.
NEWT WAS UNDER SUIT AND SIT THERE AND LET THAT BE TOLD AND WENT OUT THROUGH THE WHOLE CITY THAT BISHOP JACKSON AND BIBLICAL HOUSE OF GOD OPPOSED THE SOUP KITCHEN, WHICH IS UNTRUE.
THE SOUP KITCHEN WAS THERE BEFORE WE CAN NOW GET TO YOUR SHELTER.
I WAS OUT OF A, SEVERAL CHURCHES FROM NEW JERSEY, ALL WITH THE FLOOR, ACROSS THE TENNESSEE, DOWN, DOWN THE BATH.
WE HAD A HOMELESS SHELTER IN CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND I TOOK HER CAR SHUT.
IT WAS WHEN THE LIGHTS WENT OUT AT NIGHT, THEN HOMOSEXUAL PARTIES AND OTHER SEXUAL PARTNERS.
THEY HAD BEER DRINKING WINE, AND THE CAN RESPECT THAT WHEN THE CHURCH GOT, AT LEAST THIS HAPPENED AT A HOMELESS SHELTER AND WE HAD TO GO TO COURT AT ALL TO FIT THE YOUNG MAN THAT WAS OPERATED THE HOMELESS SHELTER.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY PERSONAL, EXPLAIN IT.
LET ME, LET ME, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
HOW MANY OF YOU FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, LIVE IN THAT AREA? WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR HANDS? THEY LIVE NEAR THE NEAR WHERE THE SHELTER IS GOING UP.
I SAID, HOW MANY OF YOU OUT THERE LIVE NEAR THE SHELTER? THAT'S THE REASON YOU'RE HERE.
WHAT'S IT ON NEAR WHERE THE SHELL IS GOING TO BE.
MR. MAYOR, MATT BATMAN, YOU GOT A JACK HERE.
YOU'RE NOT GETTING NOTIFIED BY LYFT.
WE WEREN'T NOTIFIED THE FIRST SONG.
WELL, AS MIKE, HE CAN STRAIGHTEN OUT.
UH, MEETING WAS STALE AND NOTICE WAS GIVEN ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE, UH, THE, UH, BISHOP JACKSON APPEARED AT MEETING AND STATED HE DID NOT GET PROPER ANOTHER NATION.
UH, THE, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLAN DESIGN BOARD, UH, DECIDED TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION AND, UH, TABLE THE MEETING UNTIL A LATER TIME.
BUT ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE.
SO YOU SAY YOU HAVE HAD A, YOU HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING, YOU HAD NO PAPER, BUT THERE'S ONE COMING UP.
BUT SINCE WE WERE NOT OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED THE COUNSELOR TO BE RIGHT, LET ME TAKE IT OFF BECAUSE WE WERE NOT OFFICIALLY, NO LEMON LEMON.
CAN I SETTLE THE WHOLE THING?
UH, WHEN YOU SAY, WHO ARE LIVING IN THE AREA, UH, MAYBE THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN ME.
DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA, BUT THEY ARE THE PROPERTY ONES THAT CHURCH.
AND THEY ATTENDED CHURCH THAT, WELL, LET ME FINISH.
I HAD A REASON FOR ASKING THAT AND IT WASN'T TO SHOW HOW FEW WHERE I'D BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD.
IF YOU WANT A FAMILY, ONE, I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU IS THE FOLLOWING NUMBER ONE, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST TRYING TO HELP THE HOMELESS AND ALL THAT TYPE OF THING.
UH, I SUPPORT THE SOUP KITCHEN PERSONALLY, MYSELF.
HOWEVER, I DO THINK THAT PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE ALREADY THERE SHOULD HAVE THE LOUDEST VOICE ABOUT WHO MOVES IN NEXT DOOR OR WHATEVER.
TO ME, IT'S TWO SEPARATE ISSUES TO THE FIRST ISSUE.
BEING THAT IF, UH, THIS THING IS NOT GOING TO BE DISCUSSED, IF SOMEHOW SOMETHING CAN BE BUILT AND IT NOT BE CALLED A HOMELESS SHELTER AND THEN KIND OF SNEAK IN UNDER THE ZONING AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA AND NOT HAVE A LAWYER, IT'S ABOUT WHAT COMES IN NEXT DOOR OR WHATEVER, THEN THAT IS TOTALLY WRONG.
AND IN MY OPINION, DID THAT IS, UH, JUST AN ATTEMPT TO DO CIRCLE VENT THE LAW.
UH, MIKE IS BARBARA AND I ASKED TO PLEASE BE, UH, IN FACT, WE'LL KIND OF HOLD YOUR FEET TO THE FIRE.
AS THE NEWSPAPER SAID ABOUT NINE MONTHS THAT
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YOU WON'T ALLOW THAT.IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU SANSA, THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING AND CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE WE WON'T LEAVE THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA THAT A CONCERN FOR THIS, UH, SHELTER THAT LIVE AROUND IT, WHETHER IT, FOR IT, AGAIN, AT THE, WHATEVER, THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR OPINION ABOUT IT.
AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL HAVE.
WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND I WANT TO SAY NOW TO, TO REASSURE YOU AND OTHERS, THAT WE DON'T, WE DO NOT WANT TO BE A PARTY AND WILL NOT BE A PARTY TO SOMEBODY DOING THE SAME THING AND CALLING IT ANOTHER NAME AND THEREFORE DUCK INTO DISCUSSION AND ERIN, YOU'RE FINE.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT MIKE, DID WE MEET ALL THE LAWS AND REGULATIONS AND ME STATING THAT, AM I SAYING SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T BACK UP OR IF NO, I'LL CHANGE WHAT I SAID, BUT DO YOU KNOW THE INTENT OF WHAT I'M SAYING? I AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT NOTIFYING.
I THINK IF THERE IS A VALID
AND THE REAL INTENT IS TO DO WHAT THESE PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT TO START WITH.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT IS CONSTRUCTED AND OVER HOW MANY TREES ARE PLANTED IN THE YARD.
BUT WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THE BUILDING THAT IS GOING TO BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION AS TO WHETHER THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE WANT IT OR DON'T WANT IT.
AND AGAIN, THE HOMELESS PEOPLE NEED A PLACE TO GO.
WE'LL FIND A PLACE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT MAY BE THE PLACE MAY NOT BE THE PLACE, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS NEED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR OPINION OF IT AND SAY WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT, THEY WILL HAVE FIRST.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ME THAT, THAT BE TO THEM A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADVANTAGE.
SO RESIDENTS, YOU ALSO REAFFIRMED PEOPLE WITHOUT A 10 AFTERNOON.
THEY MADE THE CHART, BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO BE IDENTIFIED AS SUCH PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
CAUSE THEY HAD TO HAVE 24 HOURS A DAY TO JUST ABOUT I WAS SMOKING THIS NEW BIRDS, MOSTLY EXCITING CHURCH AND HE BROUGHT IT WITH YOU.
HE BROUGHT IN A CHARITY WHERE THEY GO HERE.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK WHY AND THEY ALREADY SCHEDULED THE NEXT MEETING, BUT HE PLAYED HIS OWN IT TO DISCUSS THIS.
UH, NO, THE, UH, APPLICATION HAS NOT COME BACK UP.
WE'LL TIE IT UP THE NEXT, ANYBODY ELSE YOU MIGHT WANT TO WAIT TILL THEY CLEAR OUT.
HE'S ON SOME OTHER SIDE, IT'S GOING TO BE SIMILAR.
SOMETHING CONCERNING ALL THE SHELTER AND THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE CONCERNED CITIZEN, NEW BERN AND CRAVEN COUNTY.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THIS COMMUNITY ALL MY LIFE.
I ALSO BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT TO HELP.
THOSE CAN NOT HELP THEMSELVES BECAUSE I WAS IN THE SAME PREDICAMENT ONE TIME.
NOW I HAVE NO RIGHTS PITCH OF JACKSON, HIS CONGREGATION ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
BUT WHEN THE SHELTER FIRST CAME TO NEW BERN, I WAS IN THE FIGHT FOR TRYING TO FIND SOME PLACE THAT PEOPLE COULD GO AND GET HERE.
BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A REAL RALPHS AND ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE.
I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY FULL OF.
I LEARNED TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE THE LORD BLESSED ME THAT I COULD LIVE THERE AND HE TAKES CARE OF ME.
AND I WOULDN'T TRY TO DENY NO ONE ELSE, NO PLACE TO STAY.
THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY BEEN ORGANIZED.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM AND I HAVE BEEN HELPING THEM IN SOME AND DEALT WITH THAT.
SOME ALSO IN OTHER CHURCH AND LED HAD CALLED ME TONIGHT, ASKED ME WITH THIS, GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
AND I TOLD THEM NO, AND IT'S, BE A POLITICIAN FOR ONCE I WAS SO, BUT ANYWAY,
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I WANT SOMEWHERE THAT THESE PEOPLE CAN HELP THEM SEE IF I WANT SOME PLACE FOR THEM TO GO.I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE CHURCH AND OUR BISHOP JACKSON, BUT I WOULD BE REALLY, IF THEY HAD A PLACE OVER THERE BY ME, I'D BE WILLING TO PHONE TO PUT IT OVER THERE.
I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE WITHOUT SOMEWHERE TO GO.
WE GOING TO HAVE REAL CROWDS OR WHERE TO GO.
EVEN IF WE LIVE IN RIVER, BEING A TRAMP WOOD, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REAL BRASH, THIS CALLED A BREAK, THE LAW.
IF I COULD GET THEM OUT OF MY CAMILLE, IF I GET ALL THOSE DRUG ADDICTS AND THINGS OUT OF MY COMMUNITY, I'LL BE HAPPY.
BUT THEY, WE GOT TO TRY TO HELP THESE PEOPLE TO CHANGE.
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
TRYING TO GET SOME TYPES OF PROGRAMS AND TRY TO HELP CHANGE.
EVEN ALWAYS SAID, IF I HAVE TO GET SOME FUNDS TO HELP TRAIN AND HELP GET PEOPLE, A DECENT OF JOB THAT WE COULD, UH, CUT CRIME DOWN BY 80%.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WITH ALL MY HEART, WE COULD GET THE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN HELPING EACH OTHER.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLES IN OUR FAST HERE THAT WHO COULD CARE LESS ABOUT EACH OTHER.
AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S, I KNOW IT'S MY JOB BECAUSE THE LAW HAD BEEN GOOD TO ME.
HE BLESSED ME BECAUSE ONE TIME, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WAS ON ME, BUT WITH THIS HELP, I WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT AND I'LL DO ALL I CAN TO HELP SOMEBODY THAT'S IN NEED.
I DON'T CARE WHERE THEY COME FROM OR WHO THEY ARE.
AND I EVEN HAVE OPENED UP MY HOME FOR PEOPLE TO COME STAY THERE.
PEOPLE THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT WAS COMING THROUGH TIME.
THEY WERE ALLOWED TO COME TO MY HOUSE AND STAY.
NOW, SOME PEOPLE OUT HERE THEY TRIPPED WITH SOMETIME, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS GOING TO HAVE ANYWAY, YOU GO MR. HAMMOND, WHITE HOUSE, HAVING COAT HOUSE, SOMEBODY ALL THE WAY GOING TRICK IT.
SOMEBODY'S NOT GOING TO DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
I'M INTERESTED IN FINDING A PLACE BECAUSE THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES IN THE CITY OF NEW BERLIN.
THEY HAVE HELPED US SIT OUT QUITE A BIT AND I'M WILLING TO DO ANYTHING IN MY POWER TO TRY TO HELP THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY, TO FIND A PLACE TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT'S IN NEED.
WOULD YOU AGREE THAT IF WE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY IN HERE TONIGHT AND IF THEY ARE THEY'D RAISE THEIR HAND, THAT'S AGAINST THE HOMELESS, HAVING A SHELTER.
BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO MAKE AN EFFORT IF NEED BE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN'T FIND A PLACE OF AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE IT MAKES EVERYBODY HAPPY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT, BUT I CAN ALSO REMEMBER THE TIME WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A PLACE BEFORE THE MINUTE EVERYBODY HAPPENED.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
NO, I'VE LEARNED THAT IN TWO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE AS MANY HAPPY AS POSSIBLE.
MOST PEOPLE, THIS IS WHAT I'M WORKING FOR.
I WOULD WANT TO PUT IT IN THERE AND THEY DID IT.
IF YOU COULD FIND A DECENT PLACE, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING AND SAY, WE'RE ALREADY IN AGREEMENT.
I KNOW WE GOT SOME PEOPLE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO.
YOU KNOW THAT THIS WHOLE WORD, REVEREND JACKSON'S RIGHT? NOT KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT THIS BOARD HAS TURNED IT DOWN FROM GOING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ONE TIME ALREADY.
I HAVE TO BACK THE BUTTER BULLET A LOT OF TIME TO CALL THE SEEM LIKE I'M ON, ON THE OPPOSITE END FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE.
MAYBE, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT RANDY IS.
I KNOW THAT I'M THIS CONFIT TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE IN ANY KIND OF WAY.
IF I FEEL LIKE THE RIGHT SIDE, I'M GOING TO BE ON.
LIKE WE DID THE SAME THING AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING.
THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING UP HERE.
SPEAKING DOCTOR, I'M GOING TO SIT RIGHT DOWN.
IT WOULDN'T NOBODY THAT HAD NO ANIMOSITY AGAINST ME, BUT IT'S NOT A PART OF ME TO DO THAT.
IF I FEEL STRONG ABOUT SOMETHING AND I KNOW WHERE THE PEOPLE GO TO BUILD A GOOD JOB, I BELIEVE IN COMMITMENT.
PEOPLE WILLING TO DO A GOOD JOB AND ALSO BE BELIEVE IN TELLING THEM WHEN THEY DO A BAD JOB TOO.
THIS IS THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT THIS.
NOT ONLY THIS TIME, BUT I FEEL THIS WAY ALL THE TIME.
WHEN I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING'S NOT GOING THE RIGHT WAY TO HELP SOMEBODY, I SPEAK OUT AGAINST, EVEN IF IT AFFECTS ME AND MY FAMILY, I'VE SEEN MOST TIME.
IT DOES AFFECT ME AND MY FAMILY, BUT
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THE LORD BLESSED ME.AS I USED TO BELIEVE AND THINGS THAT'LL BACK NOW.
CRAVEN COUNTY STUDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN AND GROW.
OUR STUDENTS ARE WORKING WITH MODERN TECHNOLOGY, BURNING FOREIGN LANGUAGES AND EXPERIENCING HANDS ON SCIENCE PROJECTS AND LABORATORY SETTINGS WITH PROPER GUIDANCE, FACILITIES, AND LEADERSHIP.
OUR STUDENTS WILL DEFINITELY HAVE THE DOORS OPEN TO THE FUTURE.
LET'S ALL DO OUR PART TO HELP CRAVEN AND STUDENTS HAVE EVERY POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR SUCCESS.
ANYBODY ELSE LEFT ON THEIR REQUEST AND PETITION TO CITIZENS? GOOD.
THAT'S A SIMILAR, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK AS A REQUEST, ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK? OKAY.
THE NEXT THING ON AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER REQUEST FOR NON-ATTENDANCE GAS PUMPS.
AND WHO'S GOING TO ENLIGHTEN US ABOUT THAT SITUATION.
UM, THE BOARD WE RECEIVED THE REQUEST FROM MR. BRIAN FISHER WAS FISHER ALL COMPANY AND HIS LONG WINTER COAT, UH, REQUESTING A CHANGE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE.
I WOULD FEEL, I WOULD THINK THIS TIME, MAYBE MR. FISHER, MR. BAUER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE, BUT MAYBE THIS OFFICIAL OR MR. LONG.
AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THE REQUEST OR WHAT THEY WERE ASKING TO CHANGE NOW WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND.
OH, YOU MEAN THE HANDOUT? I THOUGHT YOU MEANT YOU GO READ THROUGH IT.
ROB, CAN YOU READ ANYWAY, WHAT I'M GOING TO QUESTION IS PERMISSION TO SELL GASOLINE UNATTENDED FROM 11:00 PM, 6:00 AM THROUGH CREDIT CARD TERMINALS AT TWIN RIVERS FUEL MARKET.
IT'S A NEW CONVENIENCE STORE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE TWIN RIVERS MALL.
UM, WE HAVE TECHNOLOGIES CHANGES IN THE CONVENIENCE STORE INDUSTRY TO GASOLINE BIDS AND CREDIT CARD TERMINALS AT THE PUMP NOW, OR KIND OF THE LATEST THING.
THOSE PUMPS CAN ACCEPT THAT CARD, WHETHER IT IS AN ATTENDANT ON DUTY OR NOT.
WE HAVE PURSUED THIS IN A COUPLE OF OTHER LOCATIONS WHEN IN CRAVEN COUNTY, WHEN IT HAD LOCKED AND HAD BEEN, UH, RECEIVED PERMISSION FROM THOSE TWO JURISDICTIONS T-CELL GASOLINE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS SHE'S NOT MY UNDERSTANDING.
THE LAW SAYS THE STATE LAW SAYS THAT IT IS LEGAL IN NORTH CAROLINA SUBJECT TO YOUR APPROVAL, THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY THAT MIGHT BE.
SO I'VE COME HERE TO ASK YOU PERMISSION TO DO SO.
UM, THERE ARE SOME STIPULATIONS IN THE NORTH CAROLINA CODE.
IF YOU WERE TO GRANT PERMISSION THAT I WILL HAVE TO GOT TO GO BY SUCH AS AN EMERGENCY, A REMOTE EMERGENCY STOP SWITCH, A CONSPICUOUSLY POSTED OPERATION AND NORTH TO SEE INSTRUCTIONS AUTOMATIC CUT OFF NOVELS AND TELEPHONE ACCESS AT THE LOCATION THAT I AM NOW ALREADY HAVE INSTALLED.
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IS THERE AND BASICALLY READY TO GO.UM, THERE ARE IN NORTH CAROLINA, CURRENTLY PRIVATE ATTENDING FUELING FACILITIES.
THE CITY OF NEWBURN IS CURRENTLY ONE OF THOSE HAS ONE BACK.
THAT'S THE WEST WHERE YOU ALWAYS BY YOU GETTING CITY CARS AND OTHER VEHICLES.
UM, IN 1992, THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA DECLARED THAT THERE WAS NO INHERIT DANGERS DIFFERENT THAN WHEN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE FUEL AND GAS RULES CHANGED FROM WHERE THEY HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY.
YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS I SEE IT AS, UM, SOME OF THIS STUFF IN THE BACK HERE SHOWS SOME STATISTICAL DATA THAT SHOWS BETWEEN 1980 AND 87.
AND THERE WAS ONE FIRE BED WHEN DEATH DUE TO FIRE TO A CIVILIAN OR A, A NON-EMPLOYEE IN A CONVENIENCE STORE SITUATION IN THE UNITED STATES.
MY RESPONSIBILITY, AS I SEE IT IS TO PROTECT MY EMPLOYEES.
AND LIKE THEY WOULD MENTIONED FOR THE RIFF RAFF, SO TO SPEAK IS, IS, UH, IS COMMON NOWADAYS.
AND DEATHS FROM HOMICIDE AND CONVENIENCE STORES IS, IS AN EXTREME DANGER.
THERE WERE 93 DEATHS, 95 DEATHS IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY, IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND AGAIN, I'VE GOT BACKUP DOCUMENTATION FOR THIS STUFF.
SO BASICALLY IF YOU TAKE THE DATA BETWEEN 80 AND 87 AND THE FIRE DESK AND THE DATA, UH, USING THE SAME DATA FOR, UH, THE 1993 DEATHS IN CONVENIENCE STORES ALONE, THE RATIO BETWEEN DEATHS DUE TO HOMICIDE AND DESTINY, THE FIRE 665 TO ONE, IT WOULD BE MORE IF I HAD MORE YEARS OF DATA, THAT'S ALL ABOUT, YOU'RE SAYING DEATHS DUE TO FIRE WATCH WAS UNATTENDED, OR JUST ANY HEARING PERIOD, PERIOD.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DATA BROKEN OFF FROM UNATTENDED VERSUS ATTENDED OR ANYTHING.
UNINTENDED IS, HAS BEEN, IT'S NOT BEEN COMMON IN RECENT YEARS BACK 20 YEARS AGO, WE HAD THE DOLLAR BILL MACHINE, RIGHT.
AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THOUGH, BUT THEY DISAPPEARED.
WELL, ANYWAY, I REMEMBER SEEING THEM, BUT I NEVER BOUGHT ANY PROBLEMS. BUT ANYWAY, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE COMPARING HERE, THE, THE DANGERS OR THE RISK TO THE PUBLIC IN A ATTENDED FACILITY VERSUS AN UNATTENDED FACILITY DURING THE HOURS, THE HIGHEST HOUR PEAK HOURS OF RISK, 11:00 PM TO 6:00 AM.
UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'D BE TREMENDOUSLY MORE SAFE FOR A LOCATION TO BE UNATTENDED DUE TO THE RISK OF FIRE, AS OPPOSED TO BEING ATTENDED WITH, UH, WITH, UH, FOR WHATEVER AGE OR SEX, BUT A CLERK THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HIRE TO PUT ON THAT COUNTER.
SO, ANYWAY, MY REQUEST IS THAT YOU ALLOW ME TO GO AND ATTEND TO DURING THOSE HOURS AS TO RUN THE RISK OF HAVING AN ATTENDANT ON THESE.
I MAY ASK YOU A QUESTION AND THIS IS JUST SORT OF AN ASIDE REMARK, BUT ON THE CONVENIENCE STORE SUBJECT, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT AN ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF NEIGHBORING? IT REQUIRED SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS IN THE CONVENIENCE STORE COST ME SOME MONEY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT IT? I WOULDN'T LIKE YOU WOULDN'T LIKE IT.
HAVE YOU HEARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY, ANY INFORMATION OR STATISTICS IN REGARDS TO THE SAFETY, TO THOSE OF THIS MOVE USING THE PUMPS AT NIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE USING TELE JUICY AND YOU KNOW, IT KIND, THEY'RE GETTING MONEY OUT EXCEPT THE MONEY IN THEIR POCKET BOOK.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF YOUR CAR.
BUT YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S WRONG OR IT'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT, BUT, BUT THERE'S A SAFETY PROBLEM WITH, AS FAR AS A CRIME, IT SEEMS AS IF ANY, ANY WAY YOU LOOK RIGHT.
BUT IF YOU'RE IS THIS, IT MIGHT BE SAFER TO YOUR, YOUR, YOUR EMPLOYEES WORK.
I TELL YOU, I COULD MEAN ANYBODY WHO WORKS AT A CONVENIENCE STORE AT NIGHT.
IT GOT MY BLESSING, LEAVE UP TO ME, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S, AND WE DO, WE, I FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO.
I DON'T WANT MY PEOPLE THAT ARE ON MY PAYROLL EXPOSED TO THAT RISK.
DOES, DOES PLACES LIKE THAT? NOW I'M JUST ASKING YOU, BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO DECIDE, BUT THIS WOULD PLACES LIKE THAT TO DO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE HEARD OF ANY, UH, TO HAVE A CRIME SITUATION, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHERE PEOPLE TOOK REAL PEOPLE WHO ARE WOMEN.
CAUSE WE SEEM TO BE THE PRIME TOGRAPHY THINGS WHO ARE THEN DRIVE UP AND GET GAS AND THEN SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, CARDIAC OR SOMETHING.
HAVE YOU HEARD ANY, I'VE GOT TWO LOCATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING
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THIS WAY.AND, BUT IT'S NOT MEANT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME AND WE'VE HAD NO INCIDENTS OF ANY SORT.
YOU ARE MANY HAVE LOCATIONS THAT OPEN FROM 11 IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
AND MAY I SAY CRAVEN COUNTY AND HAVE THREE PAGES DOWN HERE.
I'VE GOT BACK MAYBE SECOND PAGE.
WERE THERE OTHER FACILITIES IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT I HAVE CALLED AROUND AND JUST GOT, SO YOU WOULD KNOW THAT I'M NOT THE FIRST PERSON IN THE WORLD LAST AND THAT THIS IS A, THIS IS INNOVATION THAT IS COMING INTO OUR INDUSTRY AND IS SLOWLY COMING INTO, INTO THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA.
AND IT'S JUST GETTING THE NEW, WELL, IT SOUNDS VERY CONVENIENT TO ME MEAN, BUT NO, IF YOU USE SAFETY AS YOUR MOTIVATION, THAT SAFETY FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE SAFETY I HAD TO ASK.
BOBBY ASKED HER FOR PERMISSION, HE'S MY LOCAL GOVERNING BODY AGENT.
SO NOW I'M COMING TO ASK YOU FOLKS AND BASICALLY HIS CONTENTION AND HE'LL SPEAK FOR HIMSELF.
BUT IT'S THE FIRE FROM IS WHAT, HE'S THE FIRE HAZARD.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M TELLING YOU THE STATISTICS ABOUT FIRE.
AND I FEEL LIKE THE STATISTICS REGARDING FIRE VERSUS THE RISK OF HOMICIDE OR DANGER SOLID, SIGNIFICANT RED.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS, THIS IS FROM MY POINT OF VIEW.
YOU, YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THE TWO LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN NORTH CAROLINA AND INDUSTRY AND, AND THAT'S NUMBER ONE, MOTOR VEHICLES, NUMBER TWO MURDER.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THOSE ARE THE TWO LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH.
I DO IT FOR A LIVING, UH, IS THAT LATER THAN WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT? YES IT IS.
BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU SOMETHING THAT'S NOT RELATED TO JOHN DOE DRIVES UP AT THREE 30 IN THE MORNING.
HE'S GOT, HE PUTS IT IN THERE.
TWO GALLONS GOES IN HIS CAR AT 28, GOES ON THE GROUND.
WHERE'S IT GOING? WHERE'S IT GOING THEN? UM, I'M JUST, THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TALK.
THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.
30 GALLONS OF FUEL HITS THE GROUND.
WHERE DOES IT GO FROM THERE INTO THE RIVER? THE GASOLINE IS NOT GOING TO TRAVEL VERY FAR FORWARD.
IT SENDS IN THE GROUND OR DISCIPLINES FOR EVAPORATION.
I'VE SEEN SOME PRETTY GOOD FIRES.
I MEAN, LOOK, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT YOU GOT TO COVER ALL THE BASES.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO, WE'VE GOT TO CONSIDER THIS AS ANOTHER OPTION BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE EVERYDAY SAYING ABOUT OUR RIVER.
WE ARE YOU GOING TO BE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO IT? I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO YOU PUTTING GAS PUMPS OUT THERE, BUT WE HAVE TO, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO US.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THINK ABOUT THAT.
AND WE'VE GOT TO WADE THROUGH THAT ONE TOO.
WELL, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT IS MURDER? IT'S A MALICIOUS PEOPLE DO THINGS LIKE THAT.
30 GALLONS OF GASOLINE ON THE GROUND IS NOT FAIR.
YEAH, I KNOW IT'S NOT, BUT, BUT 30 GALLONS, 28 GALLONS OF GASOLINE IN THE RIVER IS GOING TO CAUSE QUITE A STIR.
UH, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS AN ATTENDED VERSUS UNATTENDED.
I GUESS THE PROFITS, THE QUESTION I ASK IS HOW MANY TIMES HAVE GALLONS OF GAS BEEN SPILLED ON THE GROUND DURING THE DAYTIME WITH ATTENDED PAPER? AND WHEN IT HAPPENED, WHAT WAS THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS?
THAT'S ONE THING THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
IF YOU HAD AN ATTENDANT I'M I SEEM TO KEEP IT AT NIGHT.
HE WILL PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL THE PROPER PARTIES TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL, GET SKIMMERS OUT, WHATEVER IT TAKES.
BUT THAT'S JUST ONE THING WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
IF IT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE TO YOU, THERE IS A LIMIT THAT, YEAH, THAT'D BE A LIMIT ON HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD BE PUMPED AT ONE TIME.
SO THAT'S ONE THING IF IT COMES ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF WHEN WE'RE 30.
WHAT HOLDS 30 GALLONS? MY VEHICLE WAS 42.
YOU GOT AN UNUSUAL GREEN MAN GOT 36 GALLONS.
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UH, YOU SAY THAT, UH, THIS IS BASICALLY THE PROBLEM HOURS FROM 11:00 PM UNTIL 6:00 AM.HOW MANY FACILITIES DO YOU HAVE IN NEWBURN THAT ARE OPEN DURING THOSE HOURS AT THE PRESENT TIME? SO YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO PROTECT CLERKS.
YOU'RE TRYING TO ADD GOOD VOLUME TO YOUR PRESENT BUSINESS.
IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, YOU SAID YOU WERE DOING IT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CLERKS WHO WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE TO BE THERE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CLERKS.
BUT I CAN'T LEGALLY PUT TARPS IN.
DO YOU SAY THERE WAS ONLY ONE DEATH FROM FIRE DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME? DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION AS TO HOW MANY FIRES THERE WERE, HOW MANY CALLS WERE REQUIRED OF THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS DURING THAT TIME THAT DIDN'T RESULT IN A DEATH? ALL OF THOSE INCIDENTS, THEY'RE ALL IN THIS DATA.
LET ME ASK YOU, LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING ELSE.
YOU SAY IT'S FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CLERKS, BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF HOMICIDES, I SORTA AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT HAVING CAMERAS SITTING THERE GRINDING ALL THE TIME, VIDEO CAMERAS WOULD TEND TO BE A DETERRENT TO CRIME, BUT YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THAT BECAUSE OF THE COST, BUT YOU'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THESE GAS PUMPS BEING OPERATED BY A CREDIT CARD BECAUSE THAT WOULD ADD TO YOUR INCOME.
SO IT APPEARS THAT THIS IS MORE, THIS IS MORE THAT YOU DON'T SEEM TO BE TOO INTERESTED IN THE CAMERAS, WHICH WOULD BE A DETERRENT TO CRIME AND PROTECT YOUR PEOPLE.
BUT YOU'RE QUOTING THIS AS A PROTECTION TO YOUR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T WORKING THOSE HOURS.
THE HOURS OF 11:00 PM TO 6:00 AM AT THIS TIME.
SO WE'RE NOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE COMPARING.
WELL, IF I FEEL LIKE THE MAYOR THAT IF IT WERE REQUIRED THAT YOU HAVE VIDEO CAMERA RECORDING DEVICES AND ALL OF YOUR CONVENIENCE STORES, ANYTIME THEY'RE OPEN, IT WOULD CONSTITUTE A DETERRENT, THE CRIME.
BUT YOU SAID A LITTLE EARLIER, YOU WERE OPPOSED TO THAT AND CAUSING THE COST.
SO YOU'RE OPPOSED TO PROTECTING YOUR PEOPLE OR PUTTING A DETERRENT IN THERE BECAUSE OF THE COST.
BUT YOU CLAIM THIS WOULD BE A PROTECTION TO THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT EVEN ANY PEOPLE WORKING WITH THE, ON IT SAYS DURING THE PEAK HOUR RISK, THE RISK OF ROBBERY IN MY STORES IS PRETTY LOW BEFORE 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, IN MY OPINION, BASED ON CUSTOMER COUNSELING ACTIVITY.
IN THESE LOCATIONS, HALF OF MY LOCATIONS, I CLOSED BEFORE 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, THE ONES THAT WARRANT IS HAD CUSTOMER COUNT SUFFICIENT TO WARRANT THEM BEING I KEEP OPEN UNTIL 11.
IF I CHOSE TO, I COULD KEEP THOSE OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY.
SOME LOCATIONS MIGHT WARRANT THAT.
I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT IT IS, IT IS THE RISK BECOMES TOO GREAT.
THIS HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS AT ALL.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR THEM, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU, YOU DON'T SEEM IN FAVOR OF SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, BUT THEY WOULD HELP ME.
WHAT AM I, WHY DO I WANT SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS? UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT IF YOUR MOTIVE IS REALLY PROTECTION OF YOUR EMPLOYEES.
I, MY MOTIVES ARE, I HAVE CERTAINLY I'M IN BUSINESS.
MY MOTIVE IS, IS NEVER, I'LL NEVER, UH, DENIED THAT.
I'M TRYING TO, TO SELL GASOLINE.
THAT IS MY PURPOSE, BUT I WANT TO DO IT IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT IN A WAY THAT I WAS NOT BE AT RISK NOR MIND PULLEYS.
I SPEAK BOBBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS IT? WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, ROBERT, YOU ROB.
I WENT TO ASHEVILLE THIS PAST WEEKEND.
I STOPPED IN GREENSBORO AND GOT SOME GAS.
AND I'M THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE IS YOU PUT YOUR GAS CARD INSIDE THE PUMP AND YOU CAN GET YOUR GAS AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO INSIDE THE, UH, THE, UH, SERVICE STATION ANYMORE OR THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO, UH, TO HANFORD COMMERCE.
AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UH, DO EVERYTHING TO FACILITATE COMMERCE, BUT ALSO WE NEED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GUARANTEE THE SAFETY OF RESIDENTS IN THIS TOWN AND PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN WERE VISITING HERE.
BUT, UH, IN ORDER TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THIS INFORMATION FROM MR. FISHER AND DO OUR OWN RESEARCH.
THERE ARE TELEPHONE NUMBERS HERE OF CITIES THAT HAVE, UH, ORDINANCES REGULATING, UH, UNINTENDED PUMPS.
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PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT THEM TO FIND OUT HOW THINGS ARE WORKING AND EXACTLY WHAT ORDINANCE SAYS RATHER THAN THE TWO WERE DENIED A MAN.AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT CAN BE DONE SAFELY, I I'D RATHER DO IT.
AND IF IT'S NOT A SAFE HOUSE, I WANT TO DO IT, BUT I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION UP AT NIGHT BECAUSE WE JUST GOT A VOLUMINOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION AND I CAN'T READ IT AND GIVE YOU A GOOD DECISION TONIGHT.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO BE TABLED FOR MAYBE TWO WEEKS IN BED.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR BY THE SIDES, IF THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE, PUT THE MAN IN BUSINESS.
ROB, I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
WHAT'S THE PLACE OVER TO CLOSE? WELL THAT IT WAS OPEN, BUT, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE, UH, WITH THEM BEING BUSY, YOU CAN EASILY, UH, TAUGHT ON THE GROUND 10 GALLONS OF GAS AND NOBODY WOULD NOTICE IT, YOU KNOW, UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE.
SO THAT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A VERY, VERY BIG CONCERN BECAUSE THAT CAN HAPPEN DAY OR NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY CAN MALICIOUS MALICIOUSLY, PUMP GAS ON THE GROUND AND THROW A MATCH DOWN THERE.
IF THEY DID DO THAT DURING THESE HOURS.
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY'S CREDIT CARD WOULD BE IN THAT MACHINE AT THAT TIME, IT COULD BE A STOLEN CAR, BUT I THINK MR. IDENTIFY WHOEVER'S CAR, THAT ONE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY AND I AM TOO, BUT, UH, I'M FINISHED.
FIRE DEPARTMENT, I ASSUME HE'S FOR IT.
WE HAVE ONE OCO AND FLEET MANAGER.
FLEET MASTER IS A COMMERCIAL COMPANY, WHICH PURCHASES FUEL WITH OUR CONVENIENCE STORES.
AND WE'VE WE STARTED WITH OUR FIRST ONE DAY, IT'S GOING TO COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS EDGE COUNTY RESCUE SQUAD REQUESTED US TO PROVIDE THEM WITH FUEL MEXICO COUNTY IN 93.
WE STARTED THIS AND I NOW HAVE 11 SITES DOING IT.
AND IN 10 CAMERAS AND OUT OF 10 COUNTIES, I HAVE EIGHT THAT ALLOW COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL AND IN THE OTHER TWO, AND THEY ONLY ALLOWED ME TO DO COMMERCIAL.
WE HAVE, YOU HAVE A FOUR DIGIT PIN.
AND JUST LIKE YOU DID YOUR BASIC, WHEN YOU GO TO THE TILLERS AND THAT WAY, IF SOMEONE HAS STOLEN YOUR CARD, THEY CAN GO UP AND POKER GAMES.
WE ALSO CAN ALLOW OUR RETAIL CUSTOMERS TO HAVE A PIN NUMBER, TO ACCESS OUR COOPERATORS SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE GAS OR SOMEONE CAN'T STILL GO UP, PUMP GAS AND DELIBERATELY SET A FIRE.
WHEN SOMEONE ELSE HAS CALLED, UM, SINCE 1980, SINCE 1993, WE STARTED, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS. WE, UM, RE AFTER OUR LAST ONE WAS IN GRADE ONE, WE REQUIRED OUR SALESPEOPLE WHO SELL OUR STUFF AND WORK IN OUR STORES.
ANYONE WHO IS USING OUR COMMERCIAL CARDS, WE, UM, WE ASKED HIM TO GO OUT AND TRAIN HERE AT THE COMPANY AND THE COMPANY HAS TO TRAIN THEIR EMPLOYEES.
WHAT I'M REQUESTING IS I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO TALK ABOUT COMMERCIAL, WHICH REQUIRES RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OWNER OF A COMPANY TO TRAIN HIS EMPLOYEES, WHICH I IN TURN, TRAIN HIM ON SAFETY IN OUR STORES.
AND IT'S, UM, AND THEN THAT WAY THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE TO, TO MAKING SURE THAT OBVIOUSLY THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE WHEN THEY'RE BEING FUELED.
UM, THERE, AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS SINCE 1993, WHEN WE STARTED THE BUSINESS, 83 93.
AND SO I GUESS THAT'S WHAT TO, OKAY.
FIRE DEPARTMENT, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, FOR EVERY FIRE THAT MR. FISHER HAS SAID TONIGHT THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE UNITED STATES, I COULD PROBABLY, OR BE WILLING TO BET.
THERE'S PROBABLY BEEN A HUNDRED SPIELS THAT, THAT, THAT INFORMATION WAS NOT RECORDED ON TONIGHT IN TALKING TO THE NFTA, WHICH IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT KEEPS THESE RECORDS.
THE NFTA HAS ADVISED ME THAT IT IS VERY HARD TO GIVE INFORMATION AS TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN UNATTENDED AND UNSUPERVISED REFUELING, BECAUSE IT IS, IT'S BASICALLY NOT A ALIVE WHEN MR. FISHER
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MADE THE STATEMENT THAT, UM, THERE WAS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, AS FAR AS THE DANGEROUS CONCERN.CAUSE THEY'RE ALL DAYS, UH, I JUST DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE INTERESTED OR WANT HAVE FOR CITIZENS ARE NEW AND NEW.
WE HAVE CURRENTLY MR. FISHER IS USING THE CARD READERS AND MR. UH, LONG AS USING CARD READERS AND TALKING TO MR. BAUER DAD, HE SAID HE JUST BOUGHT EIGHT BUDGET CARD REEF.
AND I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL THAT YOU CAN WALK UP TO THE GAS STATION OR DRIVE IT TO THE GAS STATION, INSERT YOUR CARD IN AND PUMP YOUR GAS.
BUT WE ARE IN THE CITY CODE IN 1971 CHARGE, AND I'LL READ YOU SOME VERBIAGE HERE.
IT SAID IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF SUCH A TENANT TO SUPERVISE, OBSERVE, AND CONTROL.
AND THOSE SAME WORDS APPEAR IN THE VOLUME FIVE, WHICH IS THE STATE BUILDING CODE.
IT ALSO GOES ON AND SAID THAT THE DUTY OF THE ATTENDANT IS TO ELIMINATE THE EXTENT POSSIBLE TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE THE RISK OF BODILY INJURY AND PROPERTY DAMAGE, WHICH COULD RESULT FROM IMPROPER HANDLING OR THE USE OF DISPENSING OF THE DISPENSING, THE BOX AND THE NORTH CAROLINA STATE FIRE CODE.
IT STATES EVERY SERVICE STATION OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SHALL HAVE AN ATTENDANT OR SUPERVISOR ON DUTY.
WHENEVER THE STATION IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS UNATTENDED SERVICE STATIONS.
AND IT GOES ON TO SAYING UNATTENDED SERVICE STATIONS, WHICH COMPLY WITH NFI IPA 30 A ARE PERMITTED SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY.
AND THEN I HAVE A WHOLE PAGE OF GUIDELINES.
THIS NSPA 30, BUT IN FP, A 30 ALSO STATES THAT THE ATTENDANT PRIMARIES FUNCTION SHALL BE FOR SUPERVISE, OBSERVE AND CONTROL THE DISPENSE IN A CLASS ONE LIQUIDS.
THEY ALSO STAYED IN NFTA 30 A THAT IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ATTENDANT TO PREVENT THE DISPENSING OF CLASS ONE LIQUIDS INTO PORTABLE CONTAINERS THAT ARE NOT COMPLIANT TO, TO PREVENT THE USE OF THE HOSE.
NOZZLE, FOUL LATCH, OPEN DEVICES THAT DO NOT COMPLY THREE TO CONTROL SOURCES OF IGNITION, WHICH IS ONE THAT I WOULD HAVE MOST CONCERNED WITH AND FOR, TO IMMEDIATELY ACTIVATE EMERGENCY CONTROLS AND HANDLE ACCIDENTAL SPILLS AND FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, IF NEEDED, IT GOES ON SAYING THE ATTENDANT OR THE SUPERVISOR ON DUTY, SHALL SHELBY, MENTALLY, AND PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF PERFORMING THE FUNCTIONS AND ASSUMING THE RESPONSIBILITIES PRESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION.
I HAD A PHONE OR HAD A CONVERSATION TODAY WITH BUSINESSMAN.
NEWMAN'S BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME.
I'M SORRY, HE'S NOT HERE AS MR.
IN FACT, I THINK HE EVEN HAS MADE CONTACT WITH THE SUN JOURNAL ON THIS.
UM, DO NOT WANT TO, UH, QUOTING THIS ABOUT, OR BY NO MEANS, BUT HE IS VERY PEAK.
HE TOLD ME THAT HE WOULDN'T WAS NOT FOR IT.
IN FACT, HE SAID JUST NOT VERY LONG AGO, HIS STATION AND, UH, WHY IT WAS ATTENDED.
SOMEONE DROVE OFF WITH THE NOZZLE IN THE GAS TANK, WHICH IS THE MOST COMMON OCCURRENCE RIPS THE PUMP AND THE HOSE OUT THERE WAS A FIRE.
AND IF THE ATTENDANT HAD NOT BEEN THERE AND BEEN ALERT AND FULFILLING THE OBLIGATIONS PRESCRIBING THESE CUTTINGS, HE SAID THERE WOULD'VE BEEN SOME SEVERE DAMAGE, WHICH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED.
THE ATTENDANT IMMEDIATELY SHUT THE POWER OFF TO THE PUMP, WHICH STOPPED FLOW THE GAS MONEY.
AND THEN SHE IMMEDIATELY DIALED 9 1, 1 JUST LIKE SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.
AND THEN SHE WENT OUTSIDE TO HELP CONTROL THE FIRE TO THE FIRE PERCENT.
UH, I HAVE BIG CONCERNS THAT IF SOMEONE WAS TO DRIVE UP AND JUST THE OBVIOUS, IF SOMEONE WAS TO STEAL MY WIFE'S PURSE THIS AFTERNOON AND ON THE WAY OUT OF TOWN, OR TONIGHT ON THE WAY OUT OF TOWN, STOP AND RUN IT THROUGH THE CREDIT CARD READER AND PUT $10 WORTH OF GAS IN THE CAR.
THEY KNOW THESE PEOPLE THAT STEAL THESE CREDIT CARDS KNOW THAT THERE'S ONLY USED FOR THESE ONE TIME BEFORE THEY'RE CUT OFF.
I MEAN, I'M JUST CONCERNED SOMEONE WITH OTHER MILES WITH ANIMALS TO KEEP ON GOING, MAYBE TO TRY TO HIDE THAT.
IT'S, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT'S QUITE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT STUFF.
WE SEE IT HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.
UH, I'M CONCERNED THAT IF SOMEONE DROVE OFF, IN FACT, I WAS TALKING TO THE FIRE MARSHALL IN HAMLINE TODAY, AND HE ADVISED ME THAT HE, HE FELT THE DATES WERE RIGHT, BUT HE THINKS THEY, THEY, UM, ADOPTED SUCH ORDINANCE AND HAVE LOT ON A MONDAY NIGHT.
AND THE FOLLOWING WEDNESDAY NIGHT, THERE WAS A INCIDENT AT
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AN UNINTENDED, AN UNSUPERVISED STATION, AND THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER FOUND OUT WHO WAS THERE.IF A CITIZEN HAD SEEN HIM DRIVE OFF AND DO DAMAGE TO THE POPE.
MY CONCERN IS IF SOMEONE EVEN SPIELS 10 GALLONS DOWN OR FIVE GALLONS DOWN AND AN INNOCENT PERSON, UH, SUCH AS THE NEWSPAPER DELIVERY BAN THAT ARRIVES AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING FOR THE NEWSPAPER IN THE BOX AND DRIVES OVER THE TOP OF THIS CLASS, ONE FLAMMABLE WITH A 1200 DEGREE CATALYTIC CONVERTER UNDER HIS CAR.
I MAY ASK YOU QUESTIONS WHERE YOU'RE GOING IT FURTHER.
DIDN'T MR. FISHER SAY, OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A TELEPHONE REQUIREMENT THERE.
WHAT KIND OF TELEPHONE IS THAT? A PAYPHONE IT'S UP TO OUR, UH, AUTHORITY.
AND I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION MR. FISHER, ABOUT THE PAYPHONE.
UM, HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO GET DOWN TO WHAT TYPE OF TELEPHONE IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE THERE.
BUT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR JUST LIKE THE CITY HAS THEIR A, WHICH IS THE RING DOWN TYPE TELEPHONE, WHICH IS DIRECT COMMUNICATION.
I WOULD WANT THE TELEPHONE TO BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND NOT PAY PHONES SOUTH CAROLINA.
MY POINT IS WHO'S REQUIRING A PHONE PERIOD.
FORGET WHAT CODE THE STATE PASSED A NATIONAL CODE.
AND I ASSUMED THAT THE INTENT OF THE CODE IS A PRESUPPOSITION THAT SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN.
BUT THIS IS TO TAKE PLACE WITH THE ATTENDANT.
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS GAVE YOU AN ABILITY TO PLANK A PHONE CALL AND REPORT IT.
RIGHT? MY ONLY QUESTION THAT COMES TO MIND IS IF A PERSON DRIVES UP ALONE AND HE'S THE GUY FILLING UP HIS CAR AND HE LIKES A CIGARETTE OR WHATEVER HAPPENS, AND HE'S THE GUY ON FIRE, I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO BE MAKING A PHONE CALL.
I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND ANOTHER.
AND ANOTHER THING WOULD BE TO IF THE GUY COMES UP AND HE EVEN ACCIDENTALLY, UH, SPILLS 15 GALLONS ON THE GROUND AND HE LOOKS AROUND AND THERE'S NO ONE THERE TO HIM.
HE MAY BE VERY WELL GONE TOO, BECAUSE OF THE FEARS OF WHAT THE LAW MIGHT DO.
ARE THEY THE EXPENSE AND THE KINGDOM THAT 15 GALLONS UP, I'VE HEARD THEM.
IN FACT, MR. LONG HAD UP AN INCIDENT THAT IS STATIONED, WHETHER IT WAS 25 GALLERIES THERE AND WHAT WAS IT? SOMETHING LIKE $15,000 BETWEEN THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO HAVE, HAVE A CONTRACTOR COME IN AND CLEAN THIS STUFF UP.
I MEAN, IF THE WORST CASE SCENARIO WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD HAVE INSPIRED THIS VICTIM WHOSE EXPENSE FOR THAT LOCATION OPERATORS.
WELL, I, I WOULD THINK IF MR.
I KNOW THAT I CAN'T SEE WELL, I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED AND MS. LAVAR, IT MAY HAVE BEEN, IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BUT MR. MAYOR, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVE HAD SEVEN INCIDENTS TO OCCUR IN THE CITY, LITTLE ALONE, PAST 10 MONTHS AT GAS STATIONS, FIVE OF THOSE WERE BECAUSE OF THE WORK DIRECTLY, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER, THE CUSTOMER MADE A MISTAKE.
WELL, THEY'RE THE ONES DOING IT.
IF WE TAKE AWAY, IF WE TAKE AWAY THAT ATTENDED, THAT IS CHARGED TO SUPERVISE, OBSERVE AND CONTROL.
I REALLY FEEL THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE REQUESTED FOR ADDITIONAL MANPOWER IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SOON.
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOTHERS ME A LITTLE BIT, I'M ALL FOR TEAM PROGRESS, UH, IS THE FACT THAT I'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS TO DRINK MACHINES.
WHEN THE GUY PUTS HIS 50 CENTS IN AND DOESN'T GET A DRINK BACK.
I'M WONDERING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT GAS PUMP ON GAS, HIS CAR IN, AT TWO IN THE MORNING, THIS CAR, IT'S A LEGITIMATE CAUSE GO AHEAD.
HEY, LISTEN, GET ON, YOU KNOW, IF I'M SITTING HERE AND NOT PUMPKIN HANGOUTS AGAIN, I GOT A FIRE.
AM I GOING TO STOP PUTTING THE FIRE OUT? AND UH, THE TELEPHONE ANGLE, IT'S NOT GETTING DOWN ON THE GAS.
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JUST FEEL SOME GAY.AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT ROB SAID AND, AND I LOVE THE CARS, BUT I WILL NOT PUT ONE ON THE 10.
I MAY NOT IN THE GAS STATION AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE.
CHANCES ARE CHANCES ARE THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
IF IT WOULD BE RIGHT AROUND THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, I KNOW THERE'S THE PUBLIC FLEETS.
YOU MIGHT BE IN A PRIVATE FLEET TOWN.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE PLANES ON THAT, BUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC OUT THREE O'CLOCK THE MORNING DRUNK.
AND TO ME THAT THE REAL SMILE, UH, UH, THE BENEFITS AND IF IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, IF YOU CAN COME OUT AND LOSE THE MOST DETESTED, THEY PROVED ME WRONG.
I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM WITH LISTENING TO YOU.
BUT WHEN I GO THERE, IT'S ONLY GOT TWO YEARS EXPERIENCE WITH LINTON AND I 10 YEARS EXPERIENCE WITH THIS GUY TO TAKE
BUT DON LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS HERE TOO.
WELL, RIGHT HERE IN CRAVEN COUNTY, YOU CAN DO IT EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY CORPORATE DOES MANASSAS MUNICIPAL OR CITY LIMITS.
AND YOU CAN DO IT IN HALF BLOCK.
AND ALSO JUST TO GET A MAN, A FAIR SHAKE.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO AT LEAST MAKE ANOTHER, MAKE A DIG A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WELL, WE'LL DIG SOME MORE, BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS, ROBERT, WOULD YOU NOT AGREE THAT SIMPLY BY DEFINITION, THAT MUNICIPALITY IS A MORE DENSE AND COMPACT THAT ACCOUNTING OPERATIONS, SOMEWHERE OUT IN THE COUNTY AND THE ISOLATED GAS PUMP OR WHATEVER.
IN OTHER WORDS, I CAN VISUALIZE WHAT A FIRE I'M A REAL BLAZER.
AND A LOT OF THESE THINGS COULD DO WITH HOUSES AROUND THERE.
AND, UH, THAT ALL I BELIEVE IN CAPITALISM, CAPITALISM ITSELF, THE SAFETY ASPECT AND ALL THAT WE HAVE GOT TO BE ABSOLUTELY SURE WE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR NO ONE DOES IT.
I SEE, I SEE THREE CITIES, DURHAM, DURHAM.
I WON'T GO TO THE POLICE TO PUT MY AND SPELLED, I THINK BOBBY MAKES A COMPELLING ARGUMENT, BUT STILL JUST TO GET A MAN, A FAIR SHAKE.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THESE AND JUST, JUST, I'M GOING TO TABLE IT TILL NEXT, ANY FURTHER, ALL IN FAVOR OF PLATELETS, THEY ARE AH, IT'S TABLE.
THEN WE RESPOND TO A SPILL THERE NOT TOO LONG AGO, WE'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL OF THEM, JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE THIS INFORMATION.
WE HAVE SURVEYS IN THE CITIES AND THE CITIES THAT WE HAVE SURVEYED SURROUNDING NEWBURGH KINSTON AND WASHINGTON DO NOT ALLOW US TO SUPERVISE YOU, PERIOD.
I ALSO JUST IN TALKING TODAY TO THE FIRE IN JACKSONVILLE, GREENLAND, THAT IT ALLOW LIMITED REVERSAL.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE STATED.
WE NEED TO INCORPORATE THE PIN.
AND THAT WAY, IF SOMEONE STEALS YOUR LOOKS OR YOUR WIFE POCKET, OR YOUR WALLET OR WHATEVER, THEY JUST DO NOT FIT YOUR CREDIT CARD THROUGH.
AND IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE YOUR TELE TELEPHONE, WHERE YOU STICK IT HERE AND YOU ENTER YOUR ID NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE.
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE LIKE
IF WE HAVE LIMITED COMMERCIAL FUELING WHERE A TRUCKING FIRM WE'D GO UP FIVE OR FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WHEN HE'S ON HIS WAY OUT OF TOWN, UM, WE MAY BE ABLE TO WORK WITH SOME NEW GUYS THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC REALLY FEEL, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT.
YOU MAKE A COMPELLING ARGUMENT AND I'M LEANING TOWARDS THE NINE.
BUT, AND I, AND I SEE THE MIRROR'S POINT ABOUT SOMEBODY Y'ALL PUTTING A CARD IN THERE AND THE, IN THE MACHINE TAKES THE, UH, THE AMOUNT FROM THE CAR AND MAVEN, AND THEN YOU DON'T GET YOUR GAS.
I CAN SEE SOME PROBLEMS BECAUSE I HAD OTHER PROBLEM WITH DRINK MACHINES AND ROUND TABLE.
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VERY CHATTY.THEY WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING, BUT THEN YOU SAVE IT FOR THE, IS IT GONE? GO AHEAD AND SHOOT IT OUT HERE.
ANYTHING ON HERE WORTH PULLING.
I'M AWARE I'M GOING TO AMERICA.
CAN THAT, CAN THAT BE TABLED FOR A WORK SESSION? CAUSE A PUBLIC MEETING LIKE THIS? NO.
I TOLD YOU I HAD A REASON TO SAY EXPLAIN IT AND MESS IT UP.
I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
YOU GOING TO HAVE ANY WORK? NONE.
ARE YOU JUST GOING TO TAKE A VACATION OR YOU GOING DO IT? WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL CHECK ON THE OPTIONS.
THEY'LL MAKE SURE WE CAN STAY, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO FEISTY WHEN YOU GET THROUGH THAT MEETING.
MACS ARE WAITING THE MISCELLANEOUS.
NOW I GOT A NOTE FROM THE LADY AND I FORGOT.
I FORGOT TO BRING THE THING WITH ME THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, ANTI PORNOGRAPHY, UH, RESOLUTION.
DID ANYONE BRING THEIR COPY OF THAT? WE'VE ALREADY MADE THE RESOLUTION.
I FORGOT YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESOLUTION.
I JUST DON'T HAVE THE LETTER WITH THE SUGGESTED RESOLUTION.
I FORGOT TO SAY I WAS RUNNING LATE.
THE RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE IS THE SAME ONE AS LAST YEAR.
THE ONE THAT DID, DID WE SIGN SIGNED? YES, THAT'S IT.
I GOT ONE THING THAT I DO HAVE TO BREAD.
THAT'S THE FIREBOARD, THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
THEY ASKED IF THEY'D BE ALLOWED TO COME TO THE NEXT WORK SESSION TO MEET WITH BOARD, THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK WITH THE BOARD THEMSELVES AND SEE IF THEY CAN STRAIGHTEN A FEW MISCONCEPTIONS AND, AND UH, SOME IDEAS THAT THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW WE FEEL.
AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW HOW THEY FIT.
THAT'S ALL THERE'S MOST OF THE TIME WE DON'T GET TO MEET WITH THAT, BUT IS THAT THE SAME GROUP THAT COMES TO US MORE OR LESS THAN THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO US, BUT THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW WE FEEL.
WE'VE NEVER MET A WHOLE BOARD OVER THERE.
WELL, I HAVEN'T HAD MY MESS ALIVE.
ONE QUESTION FOR ROBERT DOWN THERE, SOMEONE TOLD ME YOU WERE GROWING YOUR MUSTACHE A LOT BUSHES.
SO YOU LOOK A LOT MORE LIKE JOHNNY COCHRAN.
IS THAT TRUE? WELL, I'M A LITTLE BETTER THAN JOHNNY COPY.
I JUST LIKE TO SAY ON THE MISCELLANEOUS AND MAX SAID THAT HE LIKED THE IDEA ABOUT THE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS IN THE, UH, CONVENIENCE STORES.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DECIDED AS MAYOR THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO BEFORE I GET OUT OF HERE IS TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN CONVENIENCE STORES AT NIGHT.
BECAUSE ON A TIME WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE DUCT WORK, IT'S, IT'S JUST REALLY, I DON'T KNOW.
EVERY TIME I GO IN WHEN, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S LATE AT NIGHT GOING THROUGH THIS TOWN OR ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THOSE PEOPLE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING HARD.
THEY'RE THEY'RE WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD RATHER BE HOME.
AND WE ALL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROVIDE THEM A SAFE ENVIRONMENT TO WORK IN.
SO, UH, I HAD A REASON FOR ASKING MY QUESTION.
SO ANYWAY, ANYBODY GOT A MOTION ON NUMBER 19? THAT'S YOUR FAVORITE? I'VE GOT ONE LIKE, OH, THE CITY MANAGER PROTEOME IS THAT
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I THINK GENTLEMAN LABELED TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUE.GOT, AND WHAT'D YOU LIKE TO TELL ME, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL ME WHY YOU HAVE THEM IN THERE? UH, SO YOU THINK I FIRMLY BELIEVE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES OUGHT TO GIVE YOU AN INSURANCE BREAK FOR HAVING THEM IN THERE TOO, BUT LET'S PUT A FAKE CAMP, PUT A FAKE CAMERA IN THERE.
AND WE'RE A COMMUNITY BASKETBALL THAT OUR ACTIVITY PERMIT TODAY AND THERE, WE NEED TO CLOSE CHESTNUT AVENUE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 8:00 AM.
ANY DISCUSSION OF THE JOURNEY? WELL, NOW YOU DON'T EITHER AND DON'T RUN OATMEAL ON THE WAY OUT FROM PRESCHOOL TO GRADUATION, CRAVEN COUNTY STUDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN AND GROW.
OUR STUDENTS ARE WORKING WITH MODERN TECHNOLOGY, LEARNING FOREIGN LANGUAGES AND EXPERIENCING HANDS-ON SCIENCE PROJECTS AND LABORATORY SETTINGS WITH PROPER GUIDANCE, FACILITIES AND LEADERSHIP.
OUR STUDENTS WILL DEFINITELY HAVE THE DOORS OPEN TO THE FUTURE.
LET'S ALL DO OUR PART TO HELP CRAVEN COUNTY STUDENTS HAVE EVERY POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR SUCCESS.
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HIGHWAY 70 EAST NEWBURGH, I'M ALL OVER THE PARKWAY, FAMILY RUSTED.
WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW YOU JUST A FEW OF OUR DAILY LUNCH AND THE DENTIST SPECIALISTS GO OUT.
AT LEAST TWO SPECIALS EVERY DAY WITH A FRESH BASE WAS BETTER.
WE DO NOT USE BAKING DRINKS FOR SEASON OR HALF.
IT INVITE YOU TO COME TO THE PART WHERE A TRADITION OR SOMETHING GOOD WAS ALWAYS TOOK 45 YEARS AND STILL RUNNING AT ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING.
A NEW BURN WE'D GUARANTEE YOUR MONTHLY ELECTRIC BILL THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING.
OUR HOMES ARE BUILT RIGHT FROM THE START USING ONLY TOP QUALITY MATERIALS INSIDE.
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THAT'S WHY WE CAN GUARANTEE YOUR MONTHLY ELECTRIC BILL.WE HAVE MANY MODELS TO CHOOSE FROM FROM SINGLE-WIDE TO DOUBLE-WIDE TO LUXURIOUS.
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IT'S THE HOME OF THE GUARANTEE, THE ELECTRIC BILL