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I CALLED A MEETING AND WE'LL OPEN WITH A PRAYER BY DAVID THOMPSON OF RUTH CHAPEL, BRAILLE BAPTIST, CHURCH APOLLO.
PAUL'S NOW THIS VISIT, THEY SCHEDULE, WE ARE THANKFUL TO THE, FOR ALL OF THESE PLACES.
WE, WE THANK YOU FOR LIFE ITSELF.
YOU REALIZE LORD THAT WE ARE DEPENDENT UPON YOU FOR THE VERY SUSTENANCE OF LIFE.
DO WE EAT WATER? YOU DRINK THE VERY AIR THAT WE BREATHE.
WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS ALL THOSE WHO HAVE GATHERED HERE TONIGHT, AND THAT YOU WOULD LIFT UP OTHERS WHO MAY HAVE FALLEN, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE STRENGTH TO THE WEAK, GIVE ENCOURAGEMENT OF OTHERS WHO MAY BE DOWNLOADING.
WE ASK YOUR BLESSINGS UPON OUR CITY.
THESE WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT, CONDUCTING THIS BUSINESS, WE PROBABLY YOUR SPECIAL BLESSING.
WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR DEDICATION AND THEIR COMMITTED, AND I PRAY LORD THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM AS THEY CONDUCT THE AFFAIRS OF DECEIT.
AND NOW LORD, WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL MEET AND DIRECT THE THOUGHTS, THE WORDS TONIGHT IN JESUS NAME, WE PRAY HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.
MAURICE THING ONLY IN GENERAL, BE THE SEWER REPORT IN THE CIRCUIT CITY ENGINEER.
YOU'VE BEEN GENTLEMEN PERSON JUST LIKE GOOD EVENING.
THANKS FOR GIVING WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN IS OPERATING VERY WELL.
UM, THIS PAST MONTH WE TREATED AN AVERAGE OF 2.9 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
TREATED A TOTAL OF 80, 88 0.2 MILLION GALLONS.
OUR MAXIMUM DAY WAS 44.2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
VOD EFFICIENCY REMOVAL WAS 92%.
UM, MOVEABLE SUSPENDED, SOLIDS EFFICIENCY WAS 92%.
UH, WE HAD AN AVERAGE OF 16 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER, VOD AND 12 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER SUSPENDED.
SOLIDS HAD NO MAJOR SEWER LEAKS AND THE CITY IN THE PAST MONTH, EVERYTHING IS RUNNING VERY SMOOTHLY.
PLANTS RUNNING VERY EFFICIENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS THAT REPORT.
I'M PROBABLY BACK ON HER MENTAL CUSTODY.
THE THING KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT NOT MONDAY, THAT'S WHAT I NEED.
JUST A POINT OF INFORMATION, EXCUSE ME.
I WAS GOING DOWN THE A MILLION GALLONS DAILY FLOW THERE, AND I NOTICED THAT THE HIGHEST FIGURE WAS 3.4 UNTIL YOU GET TO THE 22ND OF SEPTEMBER.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S 4.2 SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN THE NEXT HIGHEST DAY.
AND IT JUST CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.
I WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THAT WOULD ELEVATE THE USAGE ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY, WHICH I DON'T EVEN RECALL WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK.
BUT IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT WEATHER REPORTS, I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT RAINED ON THE 21ST OR THE MORNING OF THE 22ND.
AND THAT WOULD, THAT POPPED INTO MIND.
BUT I JUST, I WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THAT WOMEN,
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WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, QUITE A BIT OF INFLUENCE THAT COMES INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM, UH, THROUGH RAINFALL, THROUGH THE MANHOLES, UH, IN THE STREETS, WE HAVE A LOT OF FLOODING THAT OCCURS IN OUR STREETS BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF PHOTOGRAPHY, UH, TOPOGRAPHY AND, UH, THE WATER GOES INTO THE SYSTEM THROUGH INFILTRATION, THROUGH, UH, LEAKS AND CRACKS IN THE SEWER PIPES.UM, WHENEVER THE WORK TABLES UP REAL HIGH, I'M AWARE THAT WE DON'T KNOWINGLY HAVE ANY STORM DRAINS THAT ARE FEEDING INTO THE THEY'RE NOT FEEDING DIRECTLY INTO THE, INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM.
THE SEWER SYSTEM HAS WHEN YOU PUT WATER PRESSURE ON A PIPE THAT NORMALLY HAVE WATER PRESSURE ON THE INSIDE OF IT, IT CAN LEAK TO THE INSIDE OF THE PIPE AS WELL AS OUT OF THE PIPE.
UH, WHEN YOU HAVE A HIGH WATER TABLE, THERE ARE JOINTS IN THE PIPE THAT WILL LEAK THAT WILL RECEIVE WATER.
YOU HAVE, UH, PEOPLE'S LINES IN THEIR YARD.
THEY'RE MAINLY, UH, PARTICULARLY DOWNTOWN AREA ARE MADE OUT OF FAIR CATIA PIPE.
UH, THEY MAY BE CRACKED AND IT RAINS OVER THE FRONT YARD LEAKS INTO THEIR SEWER SERVICE AND INTO OUR SEWER SYSTEM.
A LOT, A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES THAT WATER CAN GET INTO THE SYSTEM.
SO R R B O D ANOTHER SUBJECT AREN'T VOD A LOT, UM, ALLOWANCE, WHATEVER LIMIT IS, UH, 30.
AND THE AVERAGE WAS 16 FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BIG JUMP, BUT WE'VE HAD SO MANY THREATENING HURRICANES.
WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY RAINY DAYS.
HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN A LOOK AT THE FACT THAT I UNDERSTAND HOW THE BILLING WORKS AND I'M NOT SURE I DO, BUT ANYWAY, UH, THE FACT THAT THAT WE CHARGE FOR A SEWER USAGE BASED ON WATER USAGE, RIGHT? AND IF YOU LET, IF YOU KNOW HOW MUCH SEWER OUTFLOW AFFLUENT, AND IT WAS OUT FOR 10 GALLONS AND ON A GIVEN DAY OR WHATEVER, CAN YOU NOT GO BACK AND LOOK HISTORICALLY AND SEE HOW MUCH ACTUALLY CAME FROM OUR WATER SYSTEM AND SUBTRACTED AND SEE, GET AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH IS COMING FROM LEAKAGE OR STORM PRESSURES OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S ONE OF THOSE, THE BAGELS B EQUALS CA WE'LL SEE, AND IT WAS WRONG.
I'M GOING TO BE MAD WITH MY FOURTH GRADE TEACHER.
I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE ME, BUT I DO.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I DO HAVE DAILY METER READINGS THAT WE TAKE ON OUR WELLS.
UH, IT'S KINDA HARD TO PINPOINT THAT BECAUSE AT ANY GIVEN TIME, YOU HAVE TO SAY, OKAY, I'M GOING TO CUT OFF AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.
WE DON'T READ THOSE METERS OVER WELLS EVERY DAY.
ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS AND WHATNOT, UM, YOU COULD NOT, YOU COULD NOT DO IT ON HIM.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT DID A CALCULUS PICTURE, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT IT OVER TIME, LIKE AN INTEGRAL.
IT LIKES TO THE THING AND SAY, HEY, OVER TIME I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A GENERAL IDEA AND SOME, UH, SOME POWER 10 ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH IS COMING FROM OTHER SOURCES, IF YOU WILL.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WHAT ABOUT THE CLOSEST ACCURACY THAT I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH TRYING TO PREDICT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 20 TO 25% THAT WOULD MAKE YOU HAVE A LOT OF SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. A LOT OF THE WATER THAT WE COORDINATE EXAMPLE WE HAD, UM, 88.2 MILLION GALLONS GET INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM.
WE ACTUALLY PUMPED FROM OUR WELLS 122 MILLION GALLONS.
SO THAT'S A BIG PERCENTAGE DIFFERENCE THERE.
WHERE DID THE REST OF THAT WATER GO? WE DRANK IT.
WE THREW IT OUT THE BACK DOOR FOR WHATEVER REASON WE WATCHED THAT CAR.
WELL, WHEREAS THEY, MAYBE WE DRANK IT AND STILL MADE HIS WAY BACK INTO SERVICE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, MOST OF US HAD MOVED INTO THE CITY NOW AND CULTURALLY AND OTHER, YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF FIGURE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER VARIABLES THAT ARE INVOLVED THERE PLUS, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYONE WHO'S CONNECTED TO SHOW WHERE IT'S NOT EVERYONE WHO'S CONNECTED, CONNECTED.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT YOU WOULD NOT GET AN EXACT FIGURE.
NO, BUT OVER TIME YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE VARIABLES AND THE EFFECT THEY HAD, SEE THINGS LIKE PEOPLE WORE ON THEIR LAWNS.
AND SO ON A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO, LONG WATER DAYS, IT'D BE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, OVER TIME WHEN YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION AND THEY NEED TO LOOK AT THE EFFECT THAT, THAT YOU COULD DIFFERENTIATE A LARGE RAIN OUT AND SEE WHAT GENERAL EFFECT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT SHAPE, UH, VARIOUS SYSTEMS MIGHT BE IN LIKE THE, THE, UH, TERRACOTTA PIPES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I MEAN, YOU'LL NEVER HAVE AN EXACT
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NUMBER, LIKE 9%, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE A NUMBER BETWEEN FIVE AND 20% SOMEWHERE IN THAT BALLPARK ANYWAY, BEING AN INTEREST IN EXERCISING, WHATEVER.SO THAT WAS THAT ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ANYBODY STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE REST OF THE WATER WENT? I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
WE ACTUALLY STARTED OUR INITIATIVE.
IT WAS LAST MONTH, THE PEOPLE SIDE INITIATIVE WITH THE NOAA.
LET'S UH, LET'S FIGURE JANUARY ONE.
I WAS THINKING IT WAS EITHER MARCH.
I GOTTA, I GOTTA HAVE WATER TOO.
THE NEXT THING AS I PUBLIC HERE AND ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO A MAN, ARTICLE 10, SECTION 15 DASH 1 46 TABLE OF PERMISSIBLE USES.
SO AS TO ALLOW THEM TO SEE ITS C3, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, HOSPITALS, CLINICS, AND OTHER MEDICAL TREATMENT FACILITIES, AND ACTUALLY ALSO 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR SPACE.
AND IS THERE ANYBODY THAT IS AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE HERE TONIGHT? WHAT WOULD THE PROPOSITION OF THE ORDINANCE NOBODY'S AGAINST IT? OH MAN, I MOVED IT OVER HERE.
I ASKED FOR THE MONEY DOWN FOR DISCUSSION.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS AT WHAT IT APPLIED TO.
WE'LL WORK IN A DISCUSSION FORMAT HERE.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT PROMPTED THIS OR THIS HAS THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVE IT AND YEP.
IN OUR PACKET FROM THE CITY MOUNTAIN PLAINS.
UM, UNDER THE ORDINANCE, YOU CAN HAVE HOSPITALS, CLINICS, MEDICAL FACILITIES IN A C5 ZONE, ANY SIZE, BUT IT CAN PUT THEM IN A SAFE ZONE.
THERE IS A LIMIT TO 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM A HOSPITAL TO BE ABLE TO LOCATE PARKER SQUARE, WHICH IS C3, BUT THEY NEEDED TO LOCATE A LARGER THAN 10,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY.
UH, WE DISCUSSED WITH THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, LOOKED AT THE USES AND HOW IT IMPACT THE AREAS AND THE IMPACTS WERE NOT GREATER FOR MEDICAL FACILITY THAN IT WOULD BE ANY OTHER C3 TYPE FACILITY.
SO WE RECOMMENDED AND THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVING THAT CHAIN.
SO YOU MEAN THAT CITY? HALL'S NOT AS RIGID AS EVERYBODY THINKS WE CAN BAN.
IT IS HALLOWEEN NITTY WATCH FOR THAT TRICK.
WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WHEN YOU MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, BE CLOSED ALL IN FAVOR.
UH, MAYOR, MOVE THE ORPHANS BE ENOUGH.
ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT? THIS FOR MIKE ZAYTUNA.
I GUESS YOU CALL THE ROLL ON THIS ONE.
I'LL LEARN IT RIGHT HERE AT THE END.
AND DON, IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS WHEREVER YOU ARE, WE ARE KEEPING THAT WAY EVERY DAY.
AND I BET I'VE TOLD A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT YOU WANTED SOMEBODY TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT COLD HEART.
THEY THOUGHT YOU HATED MY NAME WAS OPEN.
CAUSE WE ALL THOUGHT IT WAS REAL FUNNY.
CAUSE WE KNEW IT WAS A REAL WARM AND BEATEN IN THERE ALL THE TIME.
YOU JUST DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO KNOW IT.
ANYHOW, THE NEXT THING IS YOU'RE PROBABLY HEARING AND ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO A MAN.
ARTICLE 10, SECTION FOUR, SECTION 14 DASH 1 46 TABLE OF PERMISSIBLE USES.
SO AS TO ALLOW IN THE C3 COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, MECHANICAL HIGH-TECH SHOPS AND CABINET SHOPS THAT EMPLOY NO GREATER THAN 25%, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE AGAINST THAT ONE CLOSE SECOND? IT MUST BE A BALL GAME ON ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT ONE.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH MIKE? THERE WAS A PROVISION IN THE PRIOR ORDINANCE, ALLOWING HOT TECH AND KEVIN CONDUCT SHOT WHERE EVERYTHING
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THAT, UH, UH, TAKES PLACES WITHIN A FULLY ENCLOSED BUILDING.IT HAS VERY LITTLE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREAS TO BE, UH, SITUATED IN A C3 ZONE.
AND WHEN WE WORKED ON THE, THE, UH, UPDATE OF THE ORDINANCE, UH, OVER THREE YEARS AGO, WE REMOVED ALL OF THE, UH, WHAT COULD BE LIGHT MANUFACTURING OR SIMILAR KIND OF USES, UH, FROM THE C3 ZONE.
UM, THIS WAS BROUGHT BACK TO US, UM, BY, UH, SAY TUNES CABINETS WHO, UH, I THINK WAS FAMILIAR WITH WHEN THIS WAS DONE INITIALLY MANY YEARS AGO WITH THE ORDINANCE.
UM, AND WE SAT DOWN AND WE LOOKED AT THE IMPACTS OF THIS KIND OF BUSINESS IN RELATION TO OTHER C THREES AND FELT THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH A BASIC C3 KIND OF SUN AND PRESENTED THAT TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
UH, THEY AGREED THAT IT COULD BE COMPATIBLE AND UH, RECOMMENDED, UH, APPROVAL OF IT.
AND RIGHT HERE TONIGHT, TWICE AS TO ATTITUDE AND THAT THEY'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SAY, OKAY, I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE, UH, THAT ORDINANCE TO MEN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT YOU MIGHT SAY TO HIM.
I THINK I RECALL IT BACK IN SIX TO EIGHT NOW THE SAME
THIS CANNOT BE HAVE ONE QUESTION.
GO AHEAD AND ANSWER ABOUT THE DRUMSTICKS.
HE WAS A GOOD DRUMMER BACK IN THOSE DAYS, HE WAS A BUILDING AND RINGO STARR.
YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT RIGHT QUICK.
CAUSE IT'S COMING CALLED THE ROLL PLEASE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR QUESTION.
THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS THAT BACK IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES, WE PETITION THE BOARD OF ALL OF THEM.
SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE WORD OR WE PETITION THE BOARD TO HAVE AN AMENDMENT PUT IN THE, IN THE BIG THREE ZONING, WHICH STATED THAT WE WERE IN CONFORMANCE, UM, WHEN THE ZONING WAS RESTRUCTURED AND CHANGED TO A C3 ZONE, I'M NOT REAL SURE HOW THIS WAS LEFT OUT.
UM, WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED, UH, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
UH, SO WE WERE OUT OF CONFORMANCE IN THE C3 ZONING.
THIS WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION WHEN WE CAME UP TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT FOR AN ADDITION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT ON THAT.
UM, MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT WE HAD TO PAY A FEE OF $200 TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEN TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD OF ALL, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY THAT FEE FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE ZONE AND THEN WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM US AND THEN PUT BACK IN.
IS THAT, SO WHEN A LAND USE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED, IT PUTS YOU IN NON-CONFORMITY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WHEN THE ZONING WAS RESTRUCTURED HIM, FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER, THIS PARAGRAPH WAS LEFT OUT OF THE ZONE.
ME, BUT YOU, BUT UNDER THE OLD ZONING LAW, YOU COULD HAVE DONE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW IS THAT RIGHT? EXACTLY.
WE WERE IN CONFORMANCE UNDER THE OLD ZONE MOVE.
WE REMIT THE FEET SECOND TIME.
BUT, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I I'LL GO ALONG WITH THE GENTLEMAN, BUT ROB, I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR WHAT STAFF HAS TO SAY TO THAT.
WELL, IT WAS IN ADVERT, IT WAS INADVERTENTLY LEFT OUT.
IT WAS LEFT OUT OR LEFT OUT OR WHAT HAPPENED WHEN IT DID? MY, MY QUESTION IS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT ON THE CITY'S PART.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR AN OVERSIGHT OR A MISTAKE.
IT WAS ON THE CITY'S CITY'S FAULT.
NO, LIKE TO REPLY MAN, MAMA, A BOARD.
MY COMMENT WOULD BE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO WHICH ANY CITIZEN WOULD BE ENTITLED BOARD ADOPTED A NEW LAND USE ORDINANCE, WHICH INCLUDED THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
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MY IMPRESSION IS THAT IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT ENTITLES ANYONE TO COME UP AND INSIST THAT IT BE REPAID THE $200 FEE, WHICH IS CHARGED EVERYONE WHO IS IN HIS POSSESSION.THE CHANGE WAS MADE, WHICH ADOPTED THIS LANGUAGE BACK MANY YEARS AGO IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM, AND ONE OTHER BUSINESS CONFORMING WHEN THEY WERE NON-CONFORMING AND THIS SO-CALLED INNOVATIVE LANGUAGE IS BEING REINSERTED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE LAND USE ORDINANCE WAS AN INVENTION OF CHARLIE.
KIM SAID THEY HAD A PROBLEM AND THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.
AND HE CAME UP WITH THIS TO BE PUT IN THE ORDERS, JUST ALWAYS TO MAKE THEM CONFORMING AT THAT TIME.
SAME THING WAS TRUE WITH
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE THOUGHTS TO REMIT FEES LIKE THAT.
UM, PERSONALLY, I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, PLUS TO JUST ARBITRARILY SAY, LET'S GIVE HIM HIS MONEY.
WE'D BEEN A LOT OF ADJUSTMENTS DONE.
I THINK IF WE WERE TO GIVE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, REFUND THE MONEY, WHAT WE DID AT THE TIME WE DID, I MEAN, ADVICE TO DO CHARGE AND EVERYBODY ELSE WAS PAYING IT AND THEN GIVE EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, THE REASON TO SAY THAT, WELL, A FEW YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU TAKE IT BACK AND THEN WE STILL, OH, I'M NOT SAYING, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CITY OF FIVE-MINUTE TOO, THAT WE DID SOMETHING THAT MAYBE SEEM A LITTLE UNFAIR AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT WARRANTS LOOKING INTO, WE'LL ASK TO DECIDE JUST TO SIT HERE AND SAY HERE.
YEAH, I THINK WE CAN DO IT THAT QUICK.
AND COURSE, IF THE STORY OF MY LIFE IS, IF I WAS IN YOUR POSITION DEFINED FOR BEING OUT OF CONFORMANCE, ALL THIS TIME WOULD BE $200.
WOULD YOU CANCEL IT ALL OUT AND STICK ME FOR THE 200 WHEN I CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM? AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO AT LEAST TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF IN FACT IF, IF THE, IF THE INTENTION OF THE ORDINANCE WAS TO INCLUDE THAT, YOU'RE SAYING, NO, YOU ALREADY HAVE A CONFLICT.
UH, DURING THE, UH, REVIEW OF THE ORDINANCE, THE UPDATE ON IT, UM, THERE WASN'T ACCURATE TO REMOVE MANUFACTURING OR ASSEMBLING KIND OF OPERATIONS FROM COMMERCIAL SONS.
UH, AND SO MR. WARD STATED THIS WAS DONE AROUND 1980 TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, SOME EXISTING BUSINESSES, ANY AREA.
AND IT WAS WORKING TO TRY TO DO THAT.
UM, WHEN THIS CAME TO OUR ATTENTION, UM, IT WAS OUR EFFORT TO SEE IF THERE WAS A WAY, UH, THAT THEY COULD BE MORE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO NOT PUT LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT BE IN SIMILAR KINDS OF SITUATIONS, UM, IN ABOUT, UH, WE WENT OUT AND FOUND THE OTHER LANGUAGE AND FELT IT WOULD WORK.
UM, BUT FROM A CIVILIAN STANDPOINT, UH, UH, RETS AND, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, MODEL OF
I'M GETTING THEM ALL SOMEWHERE IN TRANSLATION.
THAT IS, THEY WERE ALREADY DAMN TOO.
RIGHT? AND THEN SOME ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN.
AND WHAT DID THAT ORDINANCE DO AT 1990 OR WHATEVER, LIMIT THEM FROM GROWING AND ALLOWED THEM TO BE THERE.
BUT THE CITY COULD BE THE PERFORMANCE AT THAT TIME.
AND WE CAME BEFORE THE BOARD AND PUT INTO A
BUT WHEN THE NEW LAND ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED, YOU WENT BACK TO NOTHING, THE ROCK, WHEN IT WAS REZONED TO A C3, THEN WE WERE NOT BEFORE MY QUESTION IS THAT HOW CAN THE CITY GIVE US SOMETHING? AND THEN LET US GO INTO THAT AREA.
AND THEN AFTER WE'RE THERE, ESTABLISH, TAKE IT BACK AWAY FROM US WITH NO NOTIFICATION.
NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO STAY ZONED.
THEY PROTECT THE CLASSIFICATION.
IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION, IF THEY WANT TO IMPOSE NEW ZONING CLASSIFICATION THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, IT CAN DO IT.
I'M STAY IN THAT MS. WARD WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
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DO WE NOT HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED THATNOW YOU WOULDN'T BE AN INDIVIDUAL NOTICE IF WE WENT IN AND IN RESELLING YOUR INDIVIDUAL PROFIT SO THERE'S NOT, THEN A MAP WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER A FEW TIMES WITH ORACLE.
IF HE WAS ALREADY THERE AND MAKING CABINETS, AND THEN REZONING TOOK PLACE THAT MADE HIM QUOTE UNQUOTE NON-CONFORMING HOW DO YOU REMEDY? HOW WAS HE SUPPOSED TO REMEDY? NON-CONFORMANCE QUIT MAKING CAB AND THEN SAME OPERATION CONTINUES FOREVER.
OR AS LONG AS THE BUSINESS WASN'T DAMAGED, WASN'T REQUIRING UP TO 50% OF VALUE TO REBUILD IT.
I MEAN, THERE ARE A FEW OTHER LITTLE GOTCHAS IN THERE, BUT IN ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, HE COULD CONTINUE UNDER THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE, BUT HE COULDN'T GROW.
YOU CAN REMAIN AS HE WALKS WELL MAYOR, AND A LOT OF THE BOARD'S COMMENTS, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEYS A JUDGMENT ON THIS MATTER AND WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
AND WE'LL LET ADMINISTRATION DEAL WITH THIS MIKEY CONSENT AGENDAS, NET, THEY'RE ALL LIKE THE TAB SIX POOL.
AND I MOVE, WE ADOPT REMAINING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SEC, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THESE, UH, 10 THROUGH 12.
WE JUST NEED TO JUST GETTING AROUND TO MAKING THE CHOICE.
ALL AND WELL, YOU MADE A MOTION THAT SOMEBODY SECOND GET WHERE I'M AT ALL THE FANCY, FURTHER DISCUSSION, YOU MAY CALL A ROLE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS NUMBER SIX.
I PULL, I PULL ITEM SIX OFF BECAUSE WE, THIS IS THE HOME THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO HELP THE OWNERS.
UM, I GUESS SHE MIGHT REALLY, I GUESS GET RID OF, AND TRY TO SAVE THE STRUCTURE.
AND JUST RECENTLY MIKE ABRAMS, THAT WE GOT A CALL FROM THE FAMILY AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY MAY HAVE A POTENTIAL BUYER FOR THE HOME.
HOPEFULLY I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION OF 60 TO 90 DAYS SO THAT WE, HOPEFULLY THE GENTLEMAN CAN PURCHASE THE HOME.
AND I PLAYED DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY SPOKEN WITH THE PROSPECTIVE BUY.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF CHANCE TO BUY THE HOME.
YOU JUST REMOVE THAT THEN THAT'S FINE.
AND WE HAVE APPROVED THE REST OF IT.
SO I GUESS DOWN A POINT IN THE APPOINTMENT.
MA'AM AT FIRST MEMORANDUM DELEGATES TO THE NATIONAL, GOING BACK, YOU GO WITH NO ONE HELPED ME.
NOW YOU MERRILL HAD TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOMINATE MAX FREEZES.
I VOTED AND DELEGATE AND ALL OF THEM PENDLETON IS, UH, ALTERNATE, BUT ADMIN CONGRESS IS NATIONAL CONGRESS AND CITIES.
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THE SKETCHING OF THAT.WELL, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
IS THAT GOOD AT MATH? YOU SPEAK VERY RARELY, BUT YOU SPEAK WITH WISDOM ONCE A YEAR.
MAX IS, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY APPOINTMENTS.
OKAY, RICK, I GOT SOMETHING I'LL BRING UP NEXT TIME.
ROBERT PASS, BEAR AND OUR HOME.
BUT SHE SAID, IT INDICATES THAT MY TERM IS COME VACANT FOR THE UNITED SENIOR SERVICES BOARD AND ALL I, THEM MAKE A MOTION THAT MAX FREEZE SERVING MY REPLACEMENT OR SERVED AS A MEMBER OF UNITED SENIOR SERVICES.
SECOND FOR IF HE WANTS TO ENJOY WORKING WITH THAT, I'M NOT SERVING ON ANY COMMITTEES.
I GOT SOME MORE COMMITTEES I CAN PUT YOU ON.
YOU MADE A MOTION SAYING ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, YOU GOT IT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING MAYOR WAS YOU AND I HAD TALKED ONCE BEFORE AND I SEE WHERE DID YOU, WHERE YOU WANTED TO BRING IT UP TONIGHT AND PLEASE SIT WITH SERVICE BOARD.
I DIDN'T HAVE IT ON THERE TO BRING IT UP WHEN I CAN, IF YOU WANT TO.
WELL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT WHERE IT SAYS, OKAY, BUT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MR. BRICKLIN IS STILL SERVING.
WE'LL START BACK ON THE OTHER END WITH MISCELLANEOUS.
REMEMBER DISCUSS THE FUTURE, THE PARK TERRORIST AREA THAT HAS A PICTURE.
AND ACCORDING TO YOU, THIS IS NOT SMITH SAYS AMONG THE OPTIONS BEING CONSIDERED ALL RENTAL HOUSING, AFFORDABLE TOWNHOUSES, A HOUSING WITH SPECIAL NEEDS POPULATION IS ALSO INTENDED TO DEFINE THE GREEN PARK TERRACE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SURROUNDING DISCUSSING.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE TRIED TO ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPMENT THERAPY, PARASOL STAFF.
I'VE DONE VERY WELL AT GETTING A CONSULTANT IN NEAR BEING ON NO GOOD ONE SECOND.
THEY WANT TO COME NEXT MONDAY AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE AND THE BANK.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING WITH THAT OVER A GREEN CARD.
SO WE'LL TRY TO ENCOURAGE THE RESIDENTS TO WHO WERE THERE AT GREEN POP PAIRS.
WELL, AS OTHER FRIENDS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN BETTER HOUSING OR SPECIAL POPULATION TO COME OUT TILL NOVEMBER THE SECOND SEVEN.
BOTH OF THEM FAIRLY CONTROVERSIAL, BUT SINCE WE'RE EARLY TONIGHT, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, REALLY JUST AN OVERSIGHT ON THE PART OF THE ENTIRE BOARD.
THAT'S ALMOST TWO YEARS IN EXISTENCE NOW THAT WE NEED TO CORRECT.
AND THAT SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S SPENT AN AWFUL LOT OF YEARS WORKING FOR THIS CITY AND HIS NAME'S ALREADY COME UP, CHARLIE CAMPBELL.
NOW CHARLIE WAS A VERY CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE.
EITHER LOVED HIM OR YOU DIDN'T.
BUT HE SPENT AN AWFUL LOT OF YEARS WORKING FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURN AND HE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.
HE COULDN'T, HE COULDN'T HAVE DONE TOO MANY BAD THINGS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE HIM AND HE DID, HE DID WORK HARD FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
AND WE HAVE NOT REALLY DONE ANYTHING AS A BOARD TO RECOGNIZE THE SERVICE.
THIS MAN GAVE TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE PASSED RESOLUTIONS RECOGNIZE IN THE SERVICE OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
AND SOMEHOW RATHER WE SOMEHOW, OR OTHER, WE HAVE JUST NEVER GOTTEN AROUND TO DOING SO, CHARLIE AND I THINK IT'S THE TIME THAT WE DID THAT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT A SMALL PLAQUE THAT HE PREPARED AND I'VE GOT THE WORDING IN MIND.
I'LL WRITE THEM DOWN FOR YOU TO BE PREPARED, A LITTLE BRASS OR BRONZE, WHICHEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE SINCE IT'S OUTDOORS, I GUESS IT'D
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BE BRONZE PLAQUE PREPARED.AND FOR THE TIME BEING MOUNTED IN THE ENTRANCEWAY, THE CITY HALL, RECOGNIZING CHARLES CAMPBELL FOR THE MINI YEARS SERVICE, HE GAVE TO THIS CITY AS AN ALDERMAN, AS MAYOR, AS PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, AS DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES AND, UH, AND A PROPER DOCUMENT BE PREPARED FOR PRESENTATION.
BUT THEN WE DO THAT WHEN HE RETIRED.
SO I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT.
I'M TALKING SOMETHING OF PERMANENT PLAQUE.
THEY'RE NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE PUT IN THAT MANY YEARS WORKING FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURGH LIKE HE HAD HAD, WELL, HE GOT PAID.
WE GOT A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR OF DOING SAI UH, ALL OPPOSE.
AND THE SEC AND OUR LAST WORK SESSION, A TOUCHY SUBJECT CAME UP AND, UH, IT WAS JUST KIND OF DROPPED BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF EMOTIONAL SURFACE AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT, UM, AN ORDINANCE TO PREVENT CONCEALED WEAPONS AS BEING CARRIED ON CITY PROPERTY.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT NIGHT AND IT JUST KIND OF WENT AWAY.
AND THAT HAS BOTHERED ME EVER SINCE THEN, BECAUSE WHEN I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CONCEALED WEAPONS LAW.
THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE CARRYING LOADED NINE MILLIMETERS 3 57 WAS WHATEVER THEY DESIRE TO CARRY INTO WEST NEWBURN RECREATION CENTER, STANDING WHITE RECREATION CENTER OR ON TO THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS OF THE CITY OF NEWARK.
NOW, THE MAJOR ISSUE THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THAT MEETING WAS THE FACT THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE, WHO RECEIVED THE PERMITS, WHICH I THINK BECOME AVAILABLE IN DECEMBER, IS THAT CORRECT? DECEMBER 1ST, DECEMBER 1ST, THAT THEY WILL HAVE ALREADY HAD A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK BEFORE THEY COULD GET A PERMIT TO CARRY THE GUN.
AND THEREFORE THEY'RE NOT A THREAT.
WELL, THIS WOULD PRESUPPOSE THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE NEVER COMMITTED A CRIME THAT THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BECOME ANGERED AT SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE SAYS OR MISTAKENLY INTERPRET THE APPROACH OF SOMEONE AS BEING AN ATTACK AND SUDDENLY COMMITTED A CRIME OR WHAT COULD BECOME A CRIME, SUDDENLY DO SOMETHING WRONG.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO UNDER THE NEW LAW CAN GET A PERMIT TO CARRY A WEAPON AND CAN CARRY IT INTO THE PLACES WHERE OUR CHILDREN ARE PLAYING, WHERE OUR EMOTIONS SOMETIMES RIDE HIGH.
I REMEMBER READING NOT TOO MANY YEARS AGO, ABOUT A LITTLE LEAGUE COACH WHO WAS BEATEN TO DEATH AT A GAME BY PARENTS WHO BECAME ANGRY WITH THE WAY HE WAS MANAGING THE TEAM.
NOW IMAGINE THE SAME KIND OF EMOTIONS.
I SPENT SEVERAL EVENINGS THIS PAST WEEK AT LITTLE LEAGUE GAMES, AND THEY BECOME VERY EMOTIONAL.
AND I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF EIGHT OR 10 PEOPLE SITTING IN THE STANDS WITH BLOATED PISTOLS.
UH, I, IT WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP THAT, WELL, IF YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO CARRY THE PISTOL AND YOU'RE ALREADY OUT AWAY FROM YOUR HOUSE, DO YOU HAVE THAT WOULD PRESENT A PROBLEM THERE? NO, JUST LOCK IT IN YOUR CAR WHILE YOU'RE IN ON THE CITY PROPERTY.
AND I'M SPECIFICALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKS.
WE WOULD HAVE TO PASS AN ORDINANCE TO BACK THIS UP, BUT I CANNOT SLEEP NIGHTS.
IF, IF I KNOW I'M A PARTY TO PEOPLE WALKING INTO THOSE RECREATION CENTERS AND ALL OF THOSE BALL FIELDS AND INTO THOSE CITY PARKS, CARRYING WEAPONS, THERE IS ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THAT I WILL WALK THROUGH THE PARK AT NIGHT AND BE ROBBED.
I WALKED THROUGH THAT PARK AT NIGHT, MY WIFE AND I WALKED AROUND UNION PARK, UH, UNION POINT PARK AT NIGHTS.
WE'VE NEVER HAD THE FIRST MINUTES TROUBLE.
THE NEXT TIME I GO THERE, I MAY BE ROBBED.
IF SO, SOVIET, RON'S STILL WRONG.
I STILL DON'T WANT PEOPLE IN WHERE OUR CHILDREN ARE PLAYING GAMES, CARRYING WEAPONS.
IF THAT PERSON DOES NOT BECOME A PROBLEM, SOMEONE COULD TAKE THAT WEAPON AWAY FROM THEM AND BECOME A PROBLEM.
I PROPOSE THAT WE, THAT AN ORDINANCE BE DRAFTED, UH, PROHIBITING CARRYING CONCEALED WEAPONS, AT LEAST ON THE CITY RECREATION FIELDS AND IN THE CITY RECREATION BUILDINGS.
AND I WOULD REALLY PREFER THAT IT BE ALL CITY PROPERTY.
WILL YOU DO THIS FOR ME? INSTEAD OF THINKING ABOUT IT FOR THE NEXT TWO NIGHTS.
AND I CONSIDER IN THIS KIND OF ORDINANCE,
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WE WON'T TALK ABOUT, AND I'M NOT SAYING, WELL, I'D VOTE FOR IT.OR AGAIN, WE GOT PLENTY OF TIME BETWEEN NINE DECEMBER THE FIRST, WHY DON'T YOU DO SOME RESEARCH NUMBER ONE AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH AS FAR AS PEOPLE THAT HOLD CONCEAL WEAPONS LICENSES AND WHAT PROBLEM THEY HAVE BEEN.
AND THE OTHER STATES HAVE, WHICH ARE NOW 40 AND OF WHICH SOME OF THEM HAVE HAD THE LAW OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.
AND THEREFORE WE WILL HAVE SOME CONCRETE, FACTUAL EVIDENCE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
IN OTHER WORDS, THINGS LIKE LOADED GUNS AROUND CHILDREN, OR YOU TALK ABOUT AN EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT THAT IS AN EMOTIONAL LARGE.
I DON'T WANT TO LOVE IT GUNS AROUND CHILDREN, MYSELF, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER NIGHT HAVING CONCEALED WEAPONS, NOT HAVING A CONCEALED WEAPON ON CITY PROPERTY.
AND YET ONE NIGHT WE SAT UP HERE AND TALKED ABOUT HIM AND HIS SCORE IS A LOT.
SOME OF THEM IN BETWEEN PEOPLE'S HOUSES AND EVERYWHERE ELSE, WHAT CITY PROPER, WHICH MEANT THAT ONE COULD BE STANDING ON CITY PROPERTY AND NOT EVEN KNOWING IT ALL OVER THIS TOWN.
AND THEREFORE WE'LL BE IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
I HAVE TO BE SOME OF THE FIRST.
SO THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT YOU CANNOT JUST GO INTO CAR BLOND.
HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH KID WITH, UH, NOT HAVING CONCEALED WEAPONS OR ANY OTHER WEAPONS THAT MATTER IN A CITY BUILDING.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, SAY UNION POINT AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY YOU MAY WANT TO WALK AROUND UNION POINT AT NIGHT IN THE DARK.
I DON'T PARTICULARLY CARE TO, YOU KNOW, TO EACH HIS OWN.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MY POINT IS THAT THIS THING HAS TO BE A WELL THOUGHT OUT WELL REGULATED APPROACH TO REALLY HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
IN MY OPINION, THEREFORE, ALL I'M ASKING IS IF WE BASE ANY ARGUMENT OR ANY DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE ON FACTUAL EVIDENCE THAT WE CAN PRODUCE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UH, WITH THE WAY IT'S PHRASED.
AS FAR AS CITY PROPERTY IS CONCERNED.
MY MAIN CONCERN IS KEEPING THEM OUT OF THE RECREATION CENTERS AND OFF AND OFF THE BALL FIELDS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF LITTLE ODD PIECES OF PROPERTY ALL AROUND THE CITY THAT BELONG TO THE CITY.
I'VE BEEN HOPING FOR TWO YEARS THAT WE WOULD BRING THOSE UP AND SELL THEM.
AND SO FAR, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN VERY FAR WITH IT BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T NEED THOSE LITTLE ODD CORNERS AND EVERYTHING.
WE DID HAVE A LIST OF THEM, I THINK AT ONE TIME, BUT WE NEED TO PROCEED WITH THAT AMOUNT, TO MY WAY OF THINKING.
BUT THEN AGAIN, ON THE PART OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, I THINK THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
I THINK I GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR HAVING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INTELLIGENCE, AS FAR AS NOT GOING ON THOSE LITTLE TINY PIECES OF PROPERTY AND CHASING PEOPLE DOWN FOR CRYSTALS AND USING THAT LAW.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR FEARS AND I, AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE, WITH THE ORDINANCE BEING WRITTEN TO EXCLUDE THAT TYPE OF PROPERTY.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW FOR AN EXAMPLE, IT IS ALREADY AGAINST THE LAW.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN TO CARRY OR A WEAPON AND INTO AN ATHLETIC EVENT, THEN IT WOULDN'T HURT TO WE NEED TO SEE THE EXISTENCE STATUTE AS IS, AS IT'S WRITTEN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY NEARLY, NEARLY WITH GOOD INTENTIONS.
AND AGAIN, THEY BIND UP THE CITIZENS.
I MUCH UNTIL YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T LAW ABIDING CITIZENS BY DEFINITION.
AND I LIKE TO THINK I'M ONE OF THEM WANT TO OBEY THE LAW AND LAW ABIDING CITIZENS BY DEFINITION.
IF YOU CAN SHOW ME WHERE THEY'RE TO BE FEARED, THEN WE'LL GO TO STEP TWO.
MY POINT IS, AND AGAIN, I'LL SAY IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE FOR ALL THE WORLD TO HEAR.
I DON'T WANT FARMS AROUND KIDS PLAYING IN BALLPARKS AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING MYSELF.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE POINT OF THE MATTER IS WE MUST DO WE DO ANYTHING.
WE'VE GOT TO DO IT IN SUCH A MANNER THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T ENCOMPASS A LOT OF THINGS WE DIDN'T INTEND TO INTO ENCOMPASS.
SO IF YOU WANT TO STUDY IT AND LET'S LOOK AT IT, WE'VE GOT TIME TO DO IT.
WE MUST DO IT IN A WORK SESSION.
DIDN'T HAVE THE EXISTING LAW BEFORE.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE ASKED IS THAT WHATEVER IS REQUIRED.
AND IF EXISTING LAW DOES PROVIDE THAT PROTECTION, THEN I'M SATISFIED.
BUT BOTTOM LINE RESULTS IS ALL I'M INTERESTED IN.
I'M NOT, I'M JUST INTERESTED IN BEING SURE THAT THEY CANNOT LEGALLY CARRY LOADED WEAPONS INTO THOSE RECREATION CENTERS AND ALL OF THOSE BALL FIELDS, EITHER SEEING THAT OR THAT EXISTING LAWS PREVENT THAT, OR BY MODIFYING AN EXISTING LAW OR BY A NEW ORDINANCE.
AND THAT, THAT'S MY THAT'S, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT THOSE CHILDREN HAVE AS MUCH SAFETY WHILE THEY'RE THERE, AS WE CAN PROVIDE FOR THEM AS THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURGH AND EXISTING LAW PROVIDES THAT I'M TICKLED TO DEATH.
UM, I'M A HAPPY CAMPER, BUT AS FAR AS SAYING, WELL, A LAW, A LAW ABIDING PEOPLE WHO DON'T DO THESE THINGS AS WELL.
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THEN, WELL, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE, BUT LET'S GO BACK AND PULL OUT THE HISTORY OF WHERE THEY'VE BEEN A PROBLEM.AND THEN AS THE GUY SAID, AND I JUST FOUND OUT I GOT SHIVERED BY THE WAY, ALI CAKE.
I, I, AS MUCH AS PROOF THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN A PROBLEM IN THE PAST, I WOULD WANT TO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD NOT BECOME A PROBLEM IN THE TWO.
WELL, IF ANYBODY CAN GUARANTEE YOUR FUTURE, THEN THAT DOES.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY CALL THEM THE PSYCHICS AND ALL THAT.
BUT I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYBODY CAN GUARANTEE YOUR FUTURE, BUT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY TO TRY TO GUARANTEE, SUPPOSED TO GATHER THE INFORMATION ABOUT DECISIONS, ABOUT WHAT THE CENTER, GOVERNMENT, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, HOW I'D LIKE TO KNOW IT.
AND THEN ALSO WE NEED IT BECAUSE IT NEEDS THAT WELL, WHATEVER AVENUE THE MAYOR CHOSE CHOOSES, WHAT SUITS ME, SUITS ME.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE AVENUE.
I'M JUST INTERESTED IN, OH, I'M SAYING HE IS.
WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE DO BASED ON FACT.
AND, AND TO ACCOMPLISH STATED GOALS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP GUNS AWAY FOR CHILDREN.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS LET'S, DON'T TRY TO HAVE INTENTIONS OF DOING THAT AND THEN SNUFF OUT IN PROTECTION.
SOME LADY JOGGER, HE MIGHT WANT TO GO JOGGING.
LIKE THE ONE IN CHAPTER DEALS LOST A LIFE, GOES OFF.
SHE HAD HIS PARENTS FOR A FEW YEARS AGO, AND NOW SHE MIGHT WANT TO LEGALLY HAVE MORE PROTECTION AND HAVE SOME CALLS IT A LITTLE BIT LONGER WITH THIS TRIP.
SO THAT'S ALL I JUST LIKE TO SEE LAWS ACCOMPLISH WHAT THEY'RE INTENDED TO DO ACCOMPLISH.
AND IF WE CAN DO THAT, WE'VE DONE A DAY'S WORK, WHICH WE'LL STUDY IT FOR HIS OR HER.
I GOT ONE THING I DO WANT TO BRING UP.
CAUSE I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY ANSWERS MR. BOMBS.
ALL I WANTED TO KNOW, I WAS AT A FRIEND OF MINE WHO IS BUILDING UP A NICE BUILDING HERE IN TOWN.
AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT $3,000 WORTH OF SHRUBS.
HE HAD TO PUT INTO BEING IN COMPLIANCE.
WELL, MAYBE HE'S ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES HE CAN AFFORD IT.
WHAT'S HAPPENING TO PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD TO PUT THREE TO $5,000 IN TRYING TO GET THEIR LOCK.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AT SOME POINT, MR. MAYOR, WE STEPPING ON HER TOES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT OUT.
THEN WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK YOU HAD TO PUT SEVERAL THOUSAND, THAT ONE YOU JUST ADDED ON HERE.
I DON'T WANT, ANDY TOLD ME I DON'T EVEN WANT HIM.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO NEED TO, WE NEED TO PUT IT ON THE PRIORITY LIST FOR AT LEAST THE FIRST AND NEXT YEAR.
ROBERT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO GIVE UP YOUR WEAPON WITHOUT, I'M SORRY.
WELL, I KNOW HE'S GOING TO WATCH US TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, HANGING OUT AND, UH, WE DO HURRY UP DON AND GET BACK.
I KNOW YOU CAN SAY WE'VE MISSED YOU.
YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE WORDS SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH IT.
WELL, HE TELLS ME
AS IT WAS BEFORE WITH ALL THIS NEW PLUMBING, HE'S LOUD.
HE'S GOING TO BE SUPER JARS NOW.
ANYWAY, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE IT ALL EXCEPT THE JAR.
AND DOES ANYBODY LIKE, OH, WAIT A MINUTE.
I'M TRYING TO GET A PLANE WHERE GOING TO MEET
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UM, ALL BUT OUR PARK OVER THE PARKWAY, FAMILY RESTAURANT, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW YOU JUST A FEW OF OUR DAILY LUNCH AND WE'VE DONE A SPECIAL, WE HAVE AT LEAST 10 SPECIALS.EVERY DAY WE COOK FRESH VEGETABLES.
WE DO NOT USE BACON DRINKS FOR SEASON OR HALF AT PARTNERS.
WE INVITE YOU TO COME TO THE PARKWAY NEAR BIN PROVISION OR SOMETHING.
YOU RUNNING AT ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING, A NEW-BORN WE GUARANTEE YOUR MONTHLY ELECTRIC BILL THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING.
OUR HOMES ARE BUILT RIGHT FROM THE START USING ONLY TOP QUALITY MATERIALS INSIDE.
NOW THAT'S WHY WE CAN GUARANTEE YOUR MONTHLY ELECTRIC BILL.
WE HAVE MANY MODELS TO CHOOSE FROM, FROM SINGLE-WIDE TO DOUBLE-WIDE TO LUXURIOUS.
SO CALM TO ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING IN NEWBURN ON HIGHWAY 17 SOUTH, AND REMEMBER ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING IN NEWBURN.
IT'S THE HOME OF THE GUARANTEED ELECTRIC BILL, GLEN BURNIE COIN AND PAWN.
ARE YOU GLEN BURNIE COIN AND PAWN SHOULD BE YOUR FIRST TOP WHEN SELECTING THAT PERFECT GIFT.
GLEN BURNIE COIN AND PAWN HAS A HUGE SELECTION OF JEWELRY, ELECTRONICS, FIREARMS TOOLS, AND MANY OTHER NEW AND USED ITEMS BEFORE HERE.
BUY THOSE HIGH PRICED DEPARTMENT STORES.
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SO YES, I'M A SALAD OR THE CRAVEN COUNTY SCHOOL BOND REFERENDUM.
THIS IS DREW AND GARY IS TESTING.
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