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THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US A BEAUTIFUL DAY FATHER.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE SPRING TIME OF THE YEAR AND ALL THAT ENTAILS NEW LIFE, BUT ALSO NEW BUDGETS AND THE HARD WORK THAT GOES INTO THAT FATHER.
AND WE JUST THANK YOU THAT YOU PROVIDE FOR ALL THINGS IN LIFE, AND YOU HAVE BROUGHT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY, A GREAT BLESSING AND GREAT LEADERSHIP.
AND LORD TONIGHT, WE PRAY FOR THAT LEADERSHIP, OUR MAYOR, TOM BAYLISS, UH, AS HE IS THE EXECUTIVE OF THIS CITY, LORD, MAY HE LEAD BY EXAMPLE, MAY HE, YOU GUIDE HIM WITH THE WISDOM THAT CAN ONLY COME FROM YOU AND FATHER FOR OUR ALDERMAN, FOR JOE MATTINGLY, FOR BARBARA LEE, FOR MAX FRIEZE, FOR JULIUS PARR, HAM AND ROBERT RAYNER AND, AND FOR, UH, BILL BALLENGER, LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THEM AND, AND THEIR LEADERSHIP AS THEY REPRESENT THEIR RESPECTIVE WARDS IN THIS CITY AND FATHER FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE HIM IN THE WORK THAT HE DOES FOR THE CITY.
WE ALSO PRAY THAT YOU'D GIVE THE CITY MANAGER AND BILL HARTMAN, A SPECIAL BLESSING AS HE TRIES TO JUGGLE ALL OF THESE PERSONS AND THEIR, UH, THEIR DEMANDS.
AND YET THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE THE PEOPLE AS HE DOES THAT, UH, IN MANY DIFFERENT OPERATING KINDS OF WAYS.
AND SO GOD, I JUST PRAY THAT YOU'D UNIFY THIS BODY TONIGHT WITH WISDOM AS THEY LEAD AND GIVE THEM THAT GUIDANCE THEY NEED TONIGHT.
LORD, I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS JUST TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEEDS OF 200 PEOPLE IN MY OWN CHURCH.
I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE MANY THOUSANDS OF THIS CITY AND WHAT DIFFICULT TASKS THAT HIS FATHER TO TRY TO SATISFY ALL THE NEEDS.
AND LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO DO THAT ONE STEP AT A TIME.
AND MAY THE WORK TONIGHT BE FRUITFUL IN JESUS NAME? WE PRAY.
WITH THE FLAG, I APPRECIATE THOSE KIND WORDS.
AND YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TELL THOSE THOUSANDS OF CITIZENS THAT WERE ALL OF THEM SAYING, HEY, ON SO-AND-SO PAGE THAT HE HAS, RIGHT.
WE CAN'T GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE WHERE WE DRIVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
FIRST THING WE HAVE IS A SEWER REPORT BY DAVID NEW CITY IN JAMAICA EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, THE NEW-BORN WASH WATER PLANT TRADER, APPROXIMATELY 101 MILLION GALLONS OF WASTEWATER DURING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY WITH AN AVERAGE DAILY FLOW OF 3.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, THE PLANT SUFFERED SOME PROBLEMS DURING FEBRUARY IS, ARE REPORTED AT THE, UH, UH, END OF FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING A SECOND BOARD MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
I HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE, UM, MPDS VIOLATIONS THAT WE INCURRED.
UM, AS I SPOKE EARLIER, WE HAD, UM, A HEAVY INFLUX OF, UH, BOD, WHICH IS BIOLOGICAL OXYGEN DEMAND, UH, COME INTO THE PLANT.
UH, WE NEVER DID REALLY FIND OUT WHERE THAT PROBLEM WAS COMING FROM, UH, LASTED FOR APPROXIMATELY SEVEN DAYS AND, UH, CAUSE SUCH HIGH BOD TO THE PLANT JUST COULD NOT REMOVE IT WITH THE WEATHER THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME.
IT WAS COLDER THAN USUAL, WHICH IS THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN FOR THE TYPE PLANT THAT WE HAVE THE BOD WEEKLY AVERAGE, UH, FOR THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY AVERAGE, 53 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER, WHICH VIOLATED A WEEKLY AVERAGE THAT'S REQUIRED BY MPDS PERMIT, UH, 45 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER, THE, UH, BOD MONTHLY AVERAGE, WHICH IS A, UH, AVERAGE OF EVERY WORKING DAY WAS 36.7 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER IN THAT EXCEEDED OUR 30 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER ON OUR MPDS PERMIT.
ALSO AS A RESULT OF HIGH BOD, YOU HAVE HIGH SOLIDS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND THE, UH, TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS REMOVAL EFFICIENCY WAS 82.4%, WHICH IS IN VIOLATION OF A REQUIRED 85% REMOVAL.
UM, ALSO, UH, THIS MONTH IN THE MONTH OF MARCH, AS A RESULT OF ALL THAT WAS GOING IN THE PLANT, WE HAD SCHEDULED TO PULL A TOXICITY, UH, ON MARCH 8TH, THAT TOXICITY RESULT HAS COME BACK AND IT
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FAILED.UH, IT WAS HIGH AMMONIA, UH, JUST AS IT HAS BEEN THROUGH THE WINTER FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
AND, UH, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, UH, I THINK IT WAS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.
I TOLD YOU THAT WE WERE REQUESTING A SPECIAL ORDER OF CONSENT FOR THE TOXICITY.
WE HAVE STILL NOT HAVE HEARD BACK ON THAT.
SO WE CONTINUE TO DO OUR TESTING AS REQUIRED BY THE MPDS PERMIT AT THIS TIME.
AND ALSO THE, UH, CURRENTLY AS OF TODAY, UH, THE TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS REMOVAL EFFICIENCY IS 84% WERE NIP AND TUCK WITH WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR OUR PERMIT FOR THIS MONTH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
UH, I'M HOPING THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THROUGH THE MONTH AS THE WEATHER WARMS UP, THE TRICKLING FILTER SHOULD BECOME MORE EFFICIENT.
UH, WE'RE DOING ALL OPERATIONALLY THAT WE CAN DO.
UH, WE'RE USING A POLY ALUMINUM CHLORIDE, WHICH REMOVES PHOSPHORUS AND ALSO HELPS OF THE FLOCK AND THE WASTEWATER, WHICH WILL REDUCE THAT TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS.
WE HAVE UP THAT, UH, AND HAVE BEEN OPERATING IN THAT MANNER FOR A MONTH.
NOW I'M DOING ALL THIS TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITH THE PLANT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT, UH, OVERALL COMBOS OR MAIN CAUSE OF THAT FAILURE AND ABILITY TO GET THE VOD, UH, 85% OR 85 OR BETTER? WHAT HAPPENED ON FEBRUARY 4TH? WE SAW AN ELEVATED BOD COME INTO THE PLANT AND THE, UH, IT STAYED ELEVATED FROM FEBRUARY 4TH AND ACTUALLY SUBSIDED BACK TO NORMAL LEVELS ABOUT FEBRUARY 11TH COMING INTO THE PLANT.
AND WE COULD NOT DETERMINE, WE THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS, UM, UH, I THINK THERE WAS ONE OF THOSE DAYS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD SNOW AND THE CITY WAS SHUT DOWN SHORTLY BEFORE THIS PERIOD.
WE THOUGHT MAYBE, UH, ONE OF THE INDUSTRIES HAD DONE SOME CLEANING OR, UH, HAD DONE SOME SORT OF OPERATION THAT MAY HAVE DUMPED ON US.
WE WENT BACK AND CHECKED OUR, UH, WEEKLY PRE-TREATMENT, UH, SAMPLES THAT ARE TAKEN, UH, FOUND NOTHING UNUSUAL THERE, UM, WERE IT HAD TO BE SOMETHING THAT WAS LARGE AND CONTINUOUS.
IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST A LARGE, BIG SHOT AND THEN GONE.
UH, I THINK THAT THE MAXIMUM WAS LIKE, UH, 420 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER IN THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE ACCURATE NUMBER, BUT WE WERE WELL ABOVE 300 AND NORMALLY WE RUN, UH, 200, 2 40 IS USUALLY A HIGH FOR VOD COMING INTO THE PLANT.
SO WE WERE AT LEAST A THIRD HIGHER THAN NORMAL, UM, DURING THIS WEEK PERIOD.
AND, UH, IT WREAKED HAVOC ON THE PLANT, JUST NOT ABLE TO HANDLE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF BOD THAT WAS COMING IN THE PLANT.
WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T MEET ON THAT? WELL, AT THIS POINT IN TIME THERE, I WROTE A WRITTEN EXPLANATION OF WHAT OCCURRED, UH, TRIED TO GIVE HIM, TRIED TO GIVE THE STATE OF CHRONOLOGY OF, UH, WHAT WE BELIEVED HAPPENED.
UH, WE REALLY HAVE NO EXPLANATION FOR THE HIVE, UH, B O D I'VE WRITTEN A REPORT IN THE PAST, AND, UH, THEY HAVE JUST WRITTEN US A NOTICE OF VIOLATION WITHOUT ANY PENALTIES.
UM, AND IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE FOUR TO SIX WEEKS BEFORE HE'LL BACK AS TO WHETHER THEY'LL ASSESS ANY, UM, FINES FOR VIOLATION OR NOT.
UH, I'M SURE THAT WE WILL RECEIVE NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS, UH, WHETHER THERE'LL BE ASSOCIATED WITH FINES OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW, AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO YOUR PLANT IS REALLY DEPENDENT ON THE, ON THE LEVEL OF BOD THAT'S COMING INTO IT.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT WAS A LESSER AMOUNT AND IT'S EASIER, IT'S NOT AS MUCH TO REMOVE.
SO THEREFORE YOU PROBABLY, WE HAVEN'T IN 90% A THING, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? BUT YOU'VE GOT THIS LARGE INFLUX FROM SOMEWHERE PLANT, COULDN'T TAKE IT ALL OUT, PLAYING ITSELF.
IT, IT, WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE'S A, UH, A TRICKLING FILTER HAS ROCK MEDIUM ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT FEET DEEP.
I WANT TO SAY 80 FEET RADIUS, 80 FOOT RADIUS.
AND WE JUST TRICKLE WASTEWATER OVER THE TOP OF IT.
AND THE GROWTH THAT'S ON THE ROCK LOOKS LIKE A GREEN ALGAE IS A SLIMY GREEN ALGAE.
AND, UH, THAT GROWTH ACTUALLY TAKES THE BOD AND CONSUMES IT AS FOOD.
AND DURING THE WINTER, THAT GROWTH IS SLOWER AND LESS THAN IT IS IN THE SUMMERTIME.
AND SO NOTORIOUSLY, WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH BOD AND THEN YOU TAKE ON TOP OF THAT, A, A REAL SHOCK, WHICH IS LIKE, UH, IF YOU AND I WENT OUT AND ATE A 24 OUNCE STEAK, WHEN WE'RE NORMALLY, WHEN WE NORMALLY EAT AN EIGHT OUNCE STEAK, YOU CAN IMAGINE THE BLOATING THAT WE WOULD FEEL.
AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PLANT
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PLANT, JUST CAN'T HANDLE IT.UH, THE AL THE ALGAE ON THE ROCK GROWS VERY RAPIDLY.
SLOUGHS OFF CREATES THE SOLIDS THAT ARE THEN PICKED UP AS A TSS REMOVAL EFFICIENCY, UH, AND IT JUST UPSETS THE PLANT.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU NOW BEGIN TO STARVE THIS HEAVILY GROWING ALGAE.
AND, UH, IT, IT JUST THROWS IT OUT OF BALANCE AS A BIOLOGICAL, AND IT'S VERY SENSITIVE.
AND, UH, SO WE HAVE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN REGULATE.
IF YOU HAD A LOW BOD COMING INTO THE PLANT, WE WOULD HAVE PROBLEMS. CAUSE THERE WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH GROWTH.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE TOO MUCH, IT CREATES PROBLEMS ON THE OTHER END.
ALSO IT CAN'T TAKE IT OUT FAST ENOUGH, THEN IT GROWS AND SLOUGHS OFF THAT WRONG IN THE PLANT.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PLANT.
IT'S JUST THAT THAT IS NOT NORMAL CONCENTRATIONS OF BOD COMING INTO A TRICKLING FILTER PLANT, NOT NORMAL FOR, UH, MOST WASTEWATER FACILITIES SUCH AS OURS.
NOW THERE ARE SOME CHEMICAL OXYGEN DEMANDS UP IN THE PIEDMONT WHERE THERE'S HEAVY INDUSTRY, UM, THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT HIGHER, HIGHER BOD OR CHEMICAL OXYGEN DEMAND EITHER ONE, BUT NOT IN OUR CASE.
GOT ANY QUESTIONS WILL THE NEW PLANT, AS IT'S DESIGNED HANDLE THINGS LIKE THIS, THE NEW PLANT WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN HICCUPED WITH THIS, UH, COMING INTO THE PLANT, UH, WOULD NOT HAVE EVEN RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WAS A HIGH BOD COMING IN.
UH, IT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BY INCREASING OXYGEN OR INCREASING THE, AN OXYGEN ZONE.
LOTS OF THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH THE, UH, NEW PLANT TO HANDLE THIS TYPE OF SITUATION.
NOW THE NEW PLANT, UH, WE HAVE, UM, RIVERS AND ASSOCIATES.
THE CONTRACT ENGINEERS HAVE COMPLETED THE DESIGN OF THE LAYOUT OF THE PLANT, THE PIPING MOTORS SIZES AND ALL THAT STUFF.
UH, WE ARE PRESENTLY WAITING FOR THE ELECTRICAL ENGINEER AND THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO COMPLETE THEIR DESIGN.
UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK, RIVERS IS GOING TO COME DOWN AND WE'LL SPEND, UM, SEVERAL HOURS GOING THROUGH, UH, WHAT THEY HAVE DESIGNED AT THIS POINT.
UH, CONSTRUCTION SHOULD, UH, BE READY FOR BIDDING SOMETIME AROUND AUGUST.
AND, UH, I WOULD ANTICIPATE AWARDING A BID OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG IT TAKES TO IRON OUT THE CONTRACT.
UH, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SOUND, AND THEN ABOUT 18 MONTHS FOR CONSTRUCTION, UH, WE PLAN TO BE OPERATING WITHIN LIMITS, UM, IN JUNE OF, UH, 2002 AND OPERATING UNDER OUR NEW MPDS PERMIT IN JANUARY OF 2003.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
IT HASN'T HAZARD MITIGATION REPORT.
UH, MIKE AVERY IS NEXT GOOD EVENING.
UM, LIKE TO REPORT ON THE PAVEY TOWN ACTIVITIES IN THE WOODROW COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES UNDER PAVEY TOWN, THERE ARE TWO SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES UNDER THE HMGP HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM, 18 PARCELS WERE IDENTIFIED TO BE ACQUIRED 12, HAVE BEEN CONTRACTED FOR BETWEEN NINE TO 12, HAVE CLOSED OR WILL BE CLOSED THIS WEEK.
WE HAVE THREE THAT THERE'S STILL SOME AS TO BE DOTTED AND T'S TO BE CROSSED.
THEY MAY NOT CLOSE THIS WEEK, BUT IF THEY DO, WE WOULD HAVE 12 OF THOSE 18 PARCELS CLOSED.
BY THE END OF THE WEEK, WE HAVE ONE PARCEL WHERE THE OWNER HAS REJECTED THE OFFER.
HE WISHES TO REMAIN IN THE HOUSE, AND IT IS ONE OF THE HIGHER HOUSES IN THE AREA.
AND HE HAD NOT RECEIVED FLOODING IN ANY OF THE PREVIOUS STORMS. WE HAVE RELOCATED FOR FAMILIES.
WE'VE DEMOLISHED TWO STRUCTURES, WE'RE IN NEGOTIATION WITH THREE PROPERTY OWNERS CURRENTLY.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME TO AGREEMENT ON THAT.
AND WE HAVE TWO OTHERS WITH SOME TITLE PROBLEMS. WE'RE TRYING TO RUN DOWN SOME AIRS TO GET EVERYBODY TO SIGN ON.
THE SECOND SOURCE OF FUNDS IS DRI DISASTER RECOVERY INITIATIVE IN THE PAVEY TOWN AREA.
WE HAVE CON WE HAVE CONTRACTED ON 14 OF THOSE WE'VE CLOSED SEVEN FIVE OF THE 24.
UH, THE OWNER HAS REJECTED, UH, PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM WANTS TO HOLD ON TO THE PROPERTY, UH, TO DO SOME FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON IT HIMSELF.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, DEMOLISHED FOUR STRUCTURES,
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UH, THREE CONCRETE BLOCK STRUCTURES ON G STREET, ONE ON K STREET AND ANOTHER TO COME DOWN PROBABLY THIS WEEK.UH, AND WE'RE IN NEGOTIATION WITH, UH, FIVE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO WE'RE, UM, UH, WELL DOWN THE ROAD, AS FAR AS THE ACQUISITIONS IN THE PAVEY TOWN COMMUNITY, UH, WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATING AND, UH, NEGOTIATIONS WITH A HANDFUL LEFT UNDER EACH PROGRAM IN WOODROW, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE APPRAISALS ON SIX PARCELS.
UH, WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH TWO OF THE SIX PROPERTY OWNERS THERE.
UM, ONE OF THEM THERE IS A SIZABLE DIFFERENCE, UH, AND THE, UH, PRICE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ON THAT ONE.
WE HAVE FOUR OTHERS THAT, UH, WE'RE YET TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO GO SIT DOWN WITH AND TALK WITH, UH, THE ELEVATION PROJECT, THE 59 UNITS, UH, THE ENGINEERS ARE WORKING ON THAT FIRST GROUP OF 10.
THEY HAVE DONE THE STRUCTURAL DESIGN OF THE FIRST THREE OF THAT GROUP OF 10.
AND WHAT THE STRUCTURAL DESIGN MEANS IS THEY'VE GONE UNDER THERE AND LOOKED AND THEY'VE REPRODUCED WHAT THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS LIKE, UH, ON PAPER BACK IN THEIR OFFICE.
AND, UH, APPARENTLY, UH, THE CODES WORK WHAT THEY ARE TODAY.
AND SO THERE'S A QUITE A VARIATION THERE ON, UH, STRUCTURAL SYSTEMS. UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE FOUNDATION DESIGNS THAT WILL BE USED, AND ALSO THE BID SCHEDULE THAT THE CONTRACTORS WILL BE USING IN KNOWING BASICALLY, UH, WHAT'S INVOLVED IN HOW THEY NEED TO BE AT, UH, THE FOUNDATION DESIGN AND THE BID SCHEDULE SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN A WEEK.
UM, HE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS GOING TO TAKE, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS FIRST THREE THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN STARTED ON AND GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE BID OUT AND SORT OF GET THE BUGS OUT OF THE PROCESS.
ONCE THEY GET THAT ESTABLISHED, THEN THE REST OF THEM SHOULD MOVE ALONG, UH, MORE QUICKLY, BUT THEY ANTICIPATE GETTING THAT FIRST THREE OUT TO CONTRACTORS WITHIN TWO TO THREE WEEKS.
AND THE ENGINEERS WILL BE BACK DOWN HERE THIS WEEK TO PICK UP SOME MORE UNITS TO CONTINUE THAT INITIAL PHASE OF CRAWLING UNDER AND IN DOING THE WORK WRITE-UPS, I HAVE COMPENSATION, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW THERE TO FALLOW, IT'S ALL DONE.
AND FOR EVERYBODY'S INFORMATION, WHAT I TOLD HIM WAS IT, WE DIDN'T WANT TO COME UP DOWN THE ROAD AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT WE DIDN'T GET THE HOUSES UP AS QUICK WE OUGHT TO HAVE, OR SHOULD HAVE OR WHATEVER.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY SAY, WELL, WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS, OR THEY HAVE THE OTHER, IN OTHER WORDS, THE POINT B AND I TOLD HIM THAT IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO AS A CITY TO EXPEDITE THE THING, NOT TO COME UP AT THE END AND TELL US THAT HE NEEDED THIS OR THAT, YOU KNOW, TO TELL US NOW.
SO I'M TRUSTING THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN.
SO I'M TRUSTING THAT YOU WILL LET ME KNOW IF, IF HE, I WILL, I WILL.
I COULD ALMOST, I COULD UNDERSTAND QUITE WELL, THE FRUSTRATION THAT THE PEOPLE ARE WITHDRAWAL HAVING WELL, I'M EXPERIENCING FRUSTRATION MYSELF, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MOVE THIS ALONG.
BUT I RE I RECALL THE LAST TIME WE MET, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY HAD TO GO UP UNDER THE HOUSES, AND THEN THEY FOUND SOMETHING AND HAD TO CONTACT SOMEBODY.
AND NOW, AND THAT WAS, THEY HAD GONE ON THE ONE HOUSE AND FOUND PROBLEMS. SO THEY HAD AN APPEND TO IT.
NOW IT'S ONE MONTH LATER AND THEY HAVE GONE ON ONLY THREE HOUSES AND NO HOUSES HAVE BEEN LIFTED UP.
AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT NEVER UNDERSTAND THE PROCEDURE OR THE PROCESS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT IT DONE RIGHT NOW, BUT GOSH, THIS IS REALLY, REALLY DRAGGING IT OUT.
I'M TELLING YOU WHAT IN THE WORLD, IF ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO SEE SOME HOUSES GO UP, THERE IS NOTHING THAT I'M AWARE OF OTHER THAN GOING TO THE CONSULTANT'S OFFICE AND SETTING THERE AND BUGGING HIM EVERY DAY UNTIL THE BID SCHEDULE AND THE FINAL FOUNDATION PLANS ARE DONE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD HELP.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CITY STAFF OR SOMEONE ELSE CAN GO PICK UP AND FINISH WRITING OUT THE FOUNDATION DESIGNS OR THE BID SCHEDULE THAT'S WORK THAT THE CONSULTANT HAS TO DO.
AND SO HE, HE'S THE ONE THAT HAS TO DO THAT.
HE HAS THE EXPERTISE TO DO THAT.
SO, SO WE CAN'T GO DO HIS WORK FOR HIM BECAUSE
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WE DON'T HAVE THE BACKGROUND AND KNOWLEDGE TO DO IT.AND NOT, I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT NOW I HAVE FOUND IN THE PAST, AND THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, IS WHAT I DID WHEN I TALKED TO THE FELON AND TOLD HIM IN ALL GOOD FAITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THINGS DIDN'T WORK OUT THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO.
AND THEN WE WOULD EXPECT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT HAPPENED COULD NOT BE THE ANSWER THAT, WELL, I DIDN'T, I NEED ANOTHER GUY, YOU KNOW, THIS HAPPENED, OR THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GOING TO SCRUTINIZE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SITTING ON THIS END FOR.
IF THE GUY NEEDS SOMETHING, NOW CALL HIM NOW DON'T COME UP ON THE END.
OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING ELSE YOU CAN DO.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO JUST KIND OF TRUST IT TO MOVE INTO THE BEST SPEED THAT THEY CAN KNOWING THAT WE'VE EXAMINED.
SO I GUESS WE SHOULD ASSUME THEN THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU MADE HIM THAT OFFER THAT, THAT HE DOESN'T NEED ANOTHER GUY, WELL, HE DOESN'T NEED ANYTHING ELSE.
BUT IF, IF THE COMPANY, IF HE NEEDS SOMEONE ELSE, HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THEM.
HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY.
SO HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIGN THE RESOURCES THERE, TO DO A PROBLEM WITH GETTING THE CONTRACTORS TO EVERYBODY.
SO, YEAH, EVERYONE'S, EVERYONE IS DOING THIS EVERYBODY'S SAME TIME ALL OVER THE STATE.
SO IT'S NOT THE CALLS, THIS THING TO DRAG.
WE DON'T COME UP IN THE END, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S TIME TO BIRTH THE BABY, YOU KNOW, AND THEN FIND OUT IT AIN'T GOING TO BE NINE MONTHS.
SO IF HE, IF I HEAR NOTHING FROM HIM, THEN NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS, BUT I TOLD HIM, I'D GO BACK EVERY NOW AND THEN JUST TO MAKE SURE HE KNEW I WAS STILL ALIVE.
AND WE CALL THEM TWO TO THREE TIMES A WEEK, UH, JUST TO SEE HOW VARIOUS PARTS OF IT ARE GOING.
THAT'D BE VERY SURPRISED IF IT'S NOT MOVING IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER, PUT IT THAT WAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE AUDIT REPORT PRESENTATION BY MCGLADREY AND PULLEN CALLED IT.
I BELIEVE YOU'VE ALL BEEN GIVEN A COPY OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND ALSO WITH THAT WILL BE SOME GRAPHS.
THIS IS YOUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
AND SINCE YOU HAVE, THERE ARE SOME MEMBERS WHO ARE MISSING.
UH, IT MAY BE THAT YOU WANT TO REVIEW THIS, UH, TAKE SOME TIME TO READ IT.
I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE GRAPHS WITH YOU, WHICH ARE, UH, TO BRING OUT SOME KEY POINTS FROM THE AUDIT.
AND PERHAPS I CAN COME BACK AT A LATER TIME WHEN YOU'VE HAD MORE CHANCE TO DELVE INTO THEY GO OVER THE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO TAKE DETAIL, LOOK AT IT, RIGHT? IT'S A HUNDRED PAGES OF NUMBERS FRONT AND BACK.
IF YOU WOULD TURN TO THE FIRST PAGE OF THE GRAPHS, WHAT I'VE DONE IS TRIED TO PICK OUT JUST SOME KEY POINTS THAT ARE ALWAYS OF INTEREST TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST ITEM IS THE CASH AND INVESTMENT BALANCE.
THESE ARE YOUR UNRESTRICTED FUNDS.
RESTRICTED FUNDS WOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, PERHAPS BORROWED MONIES THAT COULD ONLY BE SPENT FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
SO THESE ARE YOUR UNRESTRICTED FUNDS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, IT HAS DRIFTED DOWN SLOWLY.
IT'S RIGHT AT THE END OF YOUR LAST FISCAL YEAR WAS ABOUT $6 MILLION TOTAL FOR THE CITY THAT COMPARES, UH, I HAVE SOME STATISTICS FOR SIMILAR SIZE ELECTRIC CITIES ACROSS THE STATE.
AND THERE ARE ABOUT, UH, 19 IN A GROUPING THAT I CAN GET STATISTICS ON.
AND THE AVERAGE UNRESTRICTED CASH AND INVESTMENT BALANCE FOR THOSE ENTITIES IS ABOUT $20 MILLION.
SO RELATIVELY SPEAKING, UH, YOU'RE RUNNING A LITTLE THINNER THAN SOME OF THOSE OTHER ENTITIES.
THE NEXT PAGE IS YOUR CURRENT PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION PERCENTAGE, WHICH FOR 1999 WAS, UH, 90, ALMOST 97%, UH, IS VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS IT HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
THIS IS A SIMILAR SIZED CAMP, UH, CITIES ACROSS THE STATE ARE AT 96.5.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT THERE WITH OTHER CITIES AND THERE'S, THAT'S SORT OF A BLENDED NUMBER.
IT CONTAINS SOME VEHICLE LICENSE PLATE TAX AND SOME JUST PROPERTY TAX ON NON VEHICLES.
AND YOU'RE REALLY UP AROUND 98 ON THE NON VEHICLE.
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GET TO, AND YOU HAVE A LESSER COLLECTION RIGHT ON THAT, WHICH IS DOWN AROUND 87.SO THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE FOR ALL CITIES IS 97%.
I MEAN, IT'S, UH, A GOOD SOLID EFFORT ON COLLECTION YOUR TAX RATE ITSELF, WHICH WAS 47 CENTS PER A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR A SIMILAR SIZED ENTITIES, ELECTRIC CITIES.
THERE WERE 50 CENTS ON AVERAGE.
SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY OPERATING MORE EFFICIENTLY BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING A BETTER BANG FOR YOUR TAX DOLLAR.
THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE IS 42, AND THAT INCLUDES ALL SIZES OF, UH, CITIES ACROSS THE STATE.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? WHICH PAGE ARE YOU ON THERE? THIS IS THE SECOND, SECOND GRAPH HAS THREE BLUE BARS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT 40% WHO WAS AT 40% AND I HEAR 40%, NO, NO 42 CENTS.
I'VE GOT SWITCHED OVER AND WENT FROM THE TAX COLLECTION, UH, PERCENTAGE OVER TO THE TAX RATE.
UH, FOR THE YEAR ON ROD, IT WAS 47 CENTS.
UH, FOR SIMILAR SIZED CITIES THAT ARE ELECTRIC.
IT WAS 50 CENTS PER A HUNDRED DOLLARS, BUT IN STATEWIDE IT WAS 42 CENTS PER HUNDRED DOLLARS.
ON THE THIRD, THE THIRD PAGE, WHICH IS YOUR GENERAL FUND FUND BOUNCE, UH, ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND, YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU HAVE THE TWO COLORS.
ONE IS YELLOW, WHICH IS THE UNRESERVED, WHICH, UH, CAN BE USED AND APPROPRIATED THE BLUE, WHICH IS ABOUT 2.7 MILLION IS RESERVED BY STATE STATUTE.
AND NORTH CAROLINA HAS A VERY CONSERVATIVE STATUTE THAT WAS PASSED BACK IN THE DEPRESSION.
WHEN SOME LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ALMOST WENT UNDER AND BASICALLY SAYS, YOU CAN ONLY APPROPRIATE YOUR FUND BALANCE.
TO THE EXTENT YOU HAVE CASH ON HAND, LESS ENOUGH TO PAY YOUR LIABILITIES AT THE TIME.
SO IT WAS A VERY CONSERVATIVE STATUTE.
IT ONLY LETS YOU ACCESS YOUR NET CASH AVAILABLE.
THE REST IS RESERVED AND THAT'S REPRESENTED BY THAT BLUE SECTION.
SO YOUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE WAS 5.6 MILLION.
YOUR, UH, UH, UNRESERVED WAS 2.8, 9 MILLION FOR SOME MORE SIZE.
ONCE AGAIN, ELECTRIC CITIES, UH, THE AVERAGE FOR THE UNRESERVED OR THE YELLOW PORTION WAS FOUR AND A HALF MILLION.
SO YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT LESS THERE YOU'RE AROUND 3 MILLION.
AND, UH, THE AVERAGE FOR THE SIMILAR SIZE ELECTRIC CITIES WAS FOUR AND A HALF, BUT WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT.
UH, YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT LESS MONEY IN RESERVE AND WHETHER THAT'S TOO LITTLE TOO MUCH JUST RIGHT, IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF POLICY.
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMISSION, UH, USES A MINIMUM THAT THEY THROW OUT, WHICH IS 8% ROUGHLY ONE MONTH'S EXPENDITURES.
AND, UH, THAT'S A MINIMUM TO HAVE JUST IN CASE SOMETHING GOES WRONG.
UH, OKAY, HOW DO WE FIT IN THAT? I'M GLAD YOU ASKED IF YOU WOULD TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE, UH, THE UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE.
YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE OVERLAID A YELLOW LINE, UH, AT 8% YOU WERE AT 14%.
SO YOU'RE ABOVE THEIR MINIMUM.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, YOU RUN A LITTLE THINNER THAN SIMILAR SIZE ELECTRIC CITIES, WHICH AS OPPOSED TO 14%, THEIR AVERAGE IS ABOUT 37.
LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT, OKAY, THAT'S THE INTERESTING THAT YOU SAY THAT IF, IF, IF A NOVEL CITY HAS MORE MONEY AND A FUN BALANCE LEFTOVER MONEY, WHATEVER MONEY COULD THAT NOT BE.
BECAUSE FOR AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE NOT REPAIRING YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND SPENDING MONEY TO HELP SPACE THINGS THAT NEEDED FIXING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, THE MONEY JUST BUILDS UP.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAKE A STRONG CASE RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
IF SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, SOMEBODY ELSE, WE GOT ALL THIS MONEY AND THE CITY OF NEWBURGH DIDN'T HAVE THAT MUCH SITTING AWAY SOMEWHERE.
WE COULD HAVE THAT MUCH THAT IN A WAY TOO, IF WE DIDN'T FIX THE ELECTRIC SYSTEM AND A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.
SO THAT'S, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT, WHEN YOU SAY THE QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW MUCH SHOULD YOU HAVE DEPENDING ON WHETHER YOU'VE BEEN SPENDING THE MONEY TO, TO DO THE THINGS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AS
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A CITY, THAT'S CORRECT.ANYBODY GET THE WRONG IDEA THAT SOMEBODY ELSE'S, I SOLD A LOT, THE GAS SITTING ON THE 10 POUNDS, YOU KNOW, AND DOING NOTHING WITH IT.
SO I WON'T KNOW HOW I DON'T REALLY, I'M NOT PERSONALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW WE STACK UP AGAINST THESE OTHER ELECTRICITIES.
AND SO FOR THE TOMORROW'S HOW MUCH MONEY I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU FEEL AS AN AUDITOR ABOUT THE WAY MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT AND HOW MUCH MONEY IS LEFT.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH ON HAND TO TAKE CARE OF THIS RAINY DAY? ACCORDING TO THE STATE 8% WOULD BE A MINIMUM THAT WE HAVE 14, I GUESS, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UH, THAT'S NOT ONLY THE STATE'S NUMBER.
THAT NUMBER IS, UH, THE STATE SORT OF LIFTED THAT FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.
AND, UH, THEY DID A STUDY AND WE'RE OF THE OPINION THAT THE 8% FOR A TAX LEVY ENTITY, WHERE YOU HAVE VARIABILITY IN CASH FLOW, WHEN THAT'S RIGHT, WHEN TAX PAYMENTS COME IN, YOU HAVE A BOODLE IN THE BANK.
UH, BUT AT THE END OF THE SUMMER, IT GETS DOWN.
AND THAT'S WHERE, UH, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT THEY SORT OF CAME UP WITH AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMISSION COMMISSION SORT OF ADOPTED THAT.
YEAH, BUT THAT, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, AND I'M JUST, AGAIN, I ASKED YOU THE QUESTION AND THIS NUMBER WOULD BE MORE, UH, I GUESS YOU MIGHT SAY RELEVANT EXPERT, GOVERNMENTAL PEOPLE SAY, THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED, AS OPPOSED TO JUST SAYING, THIS IS HOW WE FIT.
AND ANNA, ANNA, AND A BAG OF FOLKS, AND THIS IS WHERE OUR NUMBER IS.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN, IF EVERYBODY'S RUNNING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE THEN, YOU KNOW, IN, UH, WE ARE ON THE RUNNING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION BY ONE FOOT, WE'RE STILL RUNNING THE WRONG DIRECTION.
BUT, UH, IN OTHER WORDS, I WOULD PUT SOME, SOME CREDIBILITY AND IN THAT NUMBER AND THAT TEST, IF I'M THINKING RIGHT, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU, THAT IF WE HAVE 14% AND THEY'RE REQUIRING 8%, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING.
IF, IF YOUR PLANS AND YOUR BUDGETING FOR THE FUTURE, UH, AREN'T GOING TO INVADE, YOU KNOW, THAT 14% DOWN TO WHERE YOUR CASH FLOW IS IMPERILED SOME WAY, THEN IT'S FINE.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A RELATIVE MEASURE.
WHAT'S SOME OTHER, OTHER BOARDS HAVE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, WELL, WE WANT TO KEEP IT AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.
WHETHER, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO DO THAT HERE OR NOT.
IT'S REALLY THIS BOARD'S DECISION.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A RESERVE.
SOME, SOME CITIES PILE UP MONEY THERE BEFORE THEY PUT IT INTO PROJECTS.
SO IT LOOKS ARTIFICIALLY BIGGER.
WELL, I REMEMBER MAY HAVE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE DID MEET THE AMOUNT THAT WAS RECOMMENDED, BUT WE, THE LAST 10 OR 12 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN PLAYING CATCH-UP 12 YEARS AGO, WE RAISED ABOUT 6%, RIGHT? WE WERE BELOW.
BUT AT LAST 12 YEARS, I KNOW OF WE'VE CAUGHT UP WITH NEW EQUIPMENT AND NEW BUILDINGS AND REPAIRING THE THINGS THAT, THAT WAS THE LACK OF DATA.
I WAS ASHAMED FOR PEOPLE TO SEE SOME OF OUR CITY TRUCKS RUNNING AROUND, HELD TOGETHER WITH BAILING WIRE.
AND NOW WE HAVE FIND EQUIPMENT THAT THAT'LL DO THE JOB.
SO I I'M, I'M VERY WELL SATISFIED AT 14.
I THINK WE STRIKE THINGS OUT AND MODERNIZE IT.
AND STILL, THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT I'M ASKING THAT WE SHOULD JUDGE AS TO WHETHER WE STILL GOT WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE IN RESERVE.
I DON'T CARE WHAT THE OTHER SIDE IS DOING BECAUSE ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS NOT FIXING ANYTHING, YOUR MONEY.
WE BUILT UP A RESERVE AND MAYBE THAT'S WRONG AND THAT THE TAX RATE ALONE.
A LOT OF CITIES WILL ACCUMULATE A LOT OF CASH ON HAND, AND THEN THEIR CITIZENS WANTED TO KNOW, WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO THROUGH ALL THAT MONEY, WHY AREN'T YOU, MAYBE YOU'RE TAKING TOO MUCH TRAUMA.
SO THEN THEY WON'T TAX THAT'S TRUE.
THE S THE JUGGLING THAT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOARD DOES IS KNOW, THE FOCUS IS NOT LIKE A CORPORATE COMPANY OF YOUR EQUITY, POUND OF EQUITY AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
IT'S THE EFFICIENT GETTING IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN DECIDING HOW YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND IT AND GET IT OUT THE DOOR, BUT MAINTAIN AT LEAST A SAFETY RESERVE.
LIKE IF THE COMPUTERS IS BAD ENOUGH, THE Y2K AND YOU COULDN'T COLLECT ANY MONEY, YOU NEED SOME RESERVES.
HURRICANE FLOYD, WE HAD PUT OUT ABOUT OVER $600,000 JUST IN HURRICANE FLOYD.
OUR ARMY WAS FOUNDED, WHICH WE WERE NOT HIT THAT HARD BY THE WAY, OTHERS WERE HIT A LOT HARDER.
THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE WHAT YOU WOULD KEEP THAT CASH ON.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT THAT, UH, I THINK THE ORIGINAL STUDIES WERE GETTING TO SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY STOPPED YOUR CASH FLOW FOR A MONTH.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ON THAT? IF NOT, THEN THE NEXT, THE NEXT PAGE, YOUR SPECIAL
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REVENUE FUNDS, SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS BASICALLY TAKE MONEY.THAT'S COMING FROM A PARTICULAR SOURCE.
MAYBE IT'S A CDBG GRANT, UH, FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
YOU DON'T DWELL ON BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE SPENT FOR THE TOTAL EQUITY AND YOUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS AT THE END OF THE AUDIT YEAR WAS $137,000, WHICH JUST SIGNIFIES YOU HAD ABOUT A 10 TO 12 SPECIAL REVENUE TYPE PROJECTS IN PROCESS.
WELL, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH, IS THAT IF YOU TOOK A SNAPSHOT IN OTHER MONTH DURING THE YEAR, AND THAT SHOW, WHATEVER ABSOLUTELY WILL SHOW A TREMENDOUS, THEN YOU'RE HAPPY.
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU COLLECT ALL THAT REALLY CORRECT.
WE, WE HAVE A BALANCE SHEET, WHICH IS A SNAPSHOT AS OF THE END OF YOUR FISCAL YEAR, JUNE 30.
AND WE HAVE A STATEMENT OF REVENUES AND EXPENSE EXPENDITURES THAT SHOW THE OPERATIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT GRAPH, YOUR ENTERPRISE BONDS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT BARS, THE BLUE BEING ELECTRIC, YELLOW WATER, AND GREEN SEWER, AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO TAKE IT TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE NET INCOME FOR THE ELECTRIC FUND IS 490,000 FOR THE WATER, WHICH IS YELLOW 470,000.
AND FOR SEWERS 220, I THINK THE MAIN THING OF NOTE IS THEY'VE BEEN EVENED OUT.
YOU CAN SEE OVER THE PAST YEARS WHERE THEY HAVE A YO-YO UP AND DOWN, SOME DEPENDING ON, UH, OPERATIONS.
AND I THINK, UH, WORKING WITH THE RATES AND, UH, OPERATIONALLY, YOU KNOW, HOW THE FUNCTIONS ARE RUN, THAT'S EVENED OUT SOME FOR THE PAST YEAR AND THE LAST PAGE, YOUR COMBINED ENTERPRISE FUND EQUITY.
AND ONCE AGAIN, IT SHOWS A SEWER IN GREEN AND WATER IN YELLOW, ELECTRIC, AND BLUE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU HAD, UH, ROUGHLY $11 MILLION.
THIS IS IN THOUSANDS, $11 MILLION OF EQUITY IN YOUR SEWER FUND, UH, 8 MILLION IN THE WATER FUND.
AND ABOUT 23 IN THE ELECTRIC FUND, THIS IS NOT SPENDABLE EQUITY.
THIS IS, UH, PREDOMINANTLY TIED UP IN HARD ASSETS, TREATMENT, PLANTS, LINES, UH, THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT THAT, THAT IS YOUR EQUITY.
AND OF COURSE THAT WITH DEREGULATION ON THE HORIZON, ALL THOSE ITEMS ARE GOING TO BE OF MORE INTEREST IN, BE SCRUTINIZED HEAVILY IN THE FUTURE.
AND IS THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT APPRECIATION LIKE ON THE EQUIPMENT THERE? CORRECT.
THAT'S AFTER DEPRECIATION UM, AS I SAID BEFORE, AFTER YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DIGEST IT AND THE, UH, ALDERMAN WHO ARE NOT HERE HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, BE HAPPY TO COME BACK AND GO THROUGH THE FINE DETAILS.
AND, UH, HE JUST GAVE IT TO US TONIGHT.
I GUESS YOU DO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND IT SAYS WE LIKED THE WAY THINGS LOOK OR WE DON'T LIKE THE WAY THINGS LOOK AND MAYBE GOT IT, RON, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, UM, OR MAYBE YOU SHOULD RUN REAL FAST.
UH, IN THE, IN THE BACK OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, YOU'LL FIND A COMPLIANCE SECTION AND WE AUDIT NOT ONLY UNDER ARE GENERALLY, UH, ARE GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS, BUT ALSO GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, UH, THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET CIRCULAR, A 1 33, WHICH HAS COMPLIANCE TESTING AND THE STATE SINGLE AUDIT IMPLEMENTATION ACT.
SO, UH, THERE ARE NINE DIFFERENT WAYS WE HAVE TO AUDIT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT AS A PART OF THAT.
WE HAVE TO ASSESS INTERNAL CONTROLS AND COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS, REGULATIONS, CONTRACTS, AND GRANTS, TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND VIOLATIONS, OR IF WE FIND WEAKNESSES IN THE CONTROL, EITHER IN THE OPERATION OF THE CONTROL OR IN THE DESIGN OF THE SYSTEM, UH, WE WOULD REPORT THOSE COMPLIANCE VIOLATIONS TO YOU OR INTERNAL CONTROL, REPORTABLE WEAKNESSES.
UH, WE HAVE NEITHER TO REPORT TO YOU.
UH, NONE WERE NOTED DURING OUR TESTING.
SO AS FAR AS THE SYNOPSIS ON HOW THINGS WERE RUNNING, THAT IS IT.
AND THIS IS AN UNQUALIFIED REPORT.
THERE ARE BASICALLY, UH, FOUR TYPES OF OPINIONS.
THERE'S, WHAT'S CALLED, UH, AN ADVERSE OPINION
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WHERE WE DON'T THINK YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE FAIRLY STATED.THERE'S A DISCLAIMER OF OPINION WHERE SOMETHING IS SO CONTINGENT THAT WE CAN'T, WE DON'T KNOW THE OUTCOME.
THERE'S A QUALIFIED OPINION, WHICH EXCEPT FOR A PARTICULAR ITEM, UH, WE WOULD, WE THINK YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE FAIRLY STATED.
AND LASTLY, THERE'S, WHAT'S CALLED AN UNQUALIFIED THAT IS WITHOUT QUALIFICATION OR CLEAN OPINION, THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ASSURANCE THAT WE CAN GIVE AS AUDITORS.
AND YOU DO RECEIVE A CLEAN OPINION.
IF YOU EVER GO TO THE DEBT MARKETS, IT IS AN ABSOLUTE MINIMUM TO HAVE THAT.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE DOC THAT'S CORRECT.
ROLLING OUT THESE BID NUMBERS.
AND GIVE OUR REGARDS TO YOUR STAFF AND MR. HARTMAN WE'LL, WE'LL TELL HIM ABOUT, TO MIGHT MENTION THE AUDIT IS A LITTLE BIT LATE THIS YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY WENT THROUGH THAT THAT MUCH, BUT THE REASON THAT IT IS LIKE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FACTORS.
WE HAD A NEW COMPUTER SYSTEM, IT CALLS A NEW SYSTEM BECAUSE OF Y2K THAT CAME UP AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, THEN WE HAD HURRICANE FLOYD AND THEN WE HAD, UH, AT LEAST ONE KEY PERSON WHO REALLY GOT, HAD DISABILITY RETIREMENT OUT OF THAT UNIT, PLUS A COUPLE OTHER QUICK KEY.
AND IT REALLY COST US IN TIME.
AND THEN THAT THROUGH MR. CANNON'S STAFF BEHIND IN THEIR SCHEDULE.
SO THEY ARE LATE, BUT THEY'RE FINALLY HERE AND I APPRECIATE THEY'RE DOING THAT WORK.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THESE GRAPHS IF YOU KEEP THEM REAL.
SO THAT'S ONE WHERE WE CAN SEE THINGS EITHER GOING UP OR GOING DOWN, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
UNLESS ANYBODY'S GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, YOU CAN COME BACK DURING THE WORK SESSION WHEN EVERYBODY'S HERE AND WE'VE AT TIME TO GRIND THREE, WHILE WE LISTEN AND TAKE IT FROM THERE.
NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND WE'RE GOING TO PULL ITEM 13.
WE DON'T HAVE IT TOTALLY PUT TOGETHER YET.
UNDERSTANDING, MOVE YOUR REMAINING ITEMS ON THE CONCERN.
I'D LIKE TO PULL A COUPLE OF THEM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY PULL THEM.
I LIKE TO MAKE THE STIPULATIONS TO A COUPLE OF THESE.
I NEED TO PULL IT FROM THE AGENDA TO ALL OF YOU THE BEST.
I THINK MY ITEM 14, I HAVE PREPARED A, A DIFFERENT RESOLUTION THAN THAT ONE, WHICH WAS IN THE AGENDA PACKET.
WHEN YOU GET INTO IT, IF YOU WOULDN'T PULL IT TONIGHT, WE'LL PULL IT 14 HOURS, EIGHT, NINE, AND 10, 8, 9, 10, 13, AND 14, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14.
I DIDN'T WANT TO CONSIDER THEM FURTHER DISCUSSION.
IF NOT, WE'LL ADOPT ITEM 6, 7, 11, 12.
MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
CONCERNING ITEMS 8, 9, 10 THERE'S LI OKAY.
UM, ONLY TO MAKE A STIPULATION ON SOME OF THEM OR NONE OF THE EIGHT.
I TALKED TO MR. CLARK ABOUT THIS ALREADY.
AND, UH, THAT IS THE PEOPLE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE DEMOLITION, BUT THEY HAD SOME THINGS.
THEY WENT TO MOVE OUT AND HE SAID HE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO SAT SATURDAY TO GET THE THINGS OUT OF THE HOUSE AND ON, UM, ITEM NUMBER NINE, A GENTLEMAN CAME TO MY HOUSE TONIGHT AND HE WANTED ACTUALLY, HE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT BEING DEMOLISHED.
AND I TALKED TO MR. CLARKE ABOUT IT.
AND HE SAID THAT HE SUGGESTED THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN VOTE ON IT WITH STIPULATION THAT HE BE ALLOWED TO 10 DAYS TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GET WITH MR. CLARK ABOUT WHATEVER HE COULD TO MOVE INTO SOMETHING SO HE'S HIMSELF, HIMSELF, IF THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.
SO AT THE END OF 10 DAYS, IF IT, IF NEITHER IS DONE, IT'S GONE DOWN THAT'S NUMBER NINE.
AND, UH, NUMBER 10, THERE'S A GENTLEMAN HERE.
HE'S IN JULIUS WARD AND JUDY'S NOT HERE.
UH, HE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING TO YOU GUYS.
MY NAME IS RANDALL SALMONS, AND I'VE PURCHASED A HOUSE
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ON WHITE STREET, MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR AGO.AND I TALKED TO ONE OF MY CAR GUYS.
I THINK IT WAS KEITH AND GOT A BUILDING PERMIT TO DO SOME WORK ON IT.
AT THAT TIME I TOOK AND SECURE THE BUILDING TOOK CARE OF BROKEN ONES AND WHATNOT, AND THAT WAS SUPPOSE I WENT WITH THEM, UM, BUILDING AND BE DOING THE BUILDING.
BUT, UM, THURSDAY, I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK.
UM, MR. CLARK COULD CALL MASTER CERTS AND FMS THEM AS A SERVICE THAT THEY GO TO THE MALL SHOOTING.
AND 10, 10 DAYS, I THINK IT WAS ANY WAY AROUND.
I WANT TO ASK THE, UM, THE BOY TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO HAVE THEM DO I SUPPOSED TO DO FOR US AS WELL, BRINGING UP THE, UP THE CODE.
UM, IT'S IT HAS A HOLE IN THE TOP AND LEAKING IN THE HOUSE SINCE THE STORM.
THANK YOU, BERTHA, LAST STORM.
AND, UM, WE PUT A TOP ON TOP OF ONE BLUE TARPS ON IT, BUT THE BLUE TOP AIN'T WAS SO GOOD IN A WAY WHERE WE TRIED TO STOP SEEING THE RAIN, BUT, UM, I ANTICIPATE DOING SOME WORK ON THE HOUSE AND NOW THAT, UM, THIS IS NEW TO ME AND NEVER HAD THIS HAPPEN TO ME.
UM, I JUST GOT, IT'S BEEN MY FAMILY FOR A WHILE AND I REALLY LIKED TO TRY AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED? UM, I CAN START ON AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I'LL MAKE A DIFFERENCE, MR. CLARK, YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT HIS BEQUEST.
WELL, WHEN, UH, MR. SIMMONS CAME TO MY OFFICE, UH, THE OTHER DAY WE HAD SERVED A ADMINISTRATIVE SEARCH WARRANT TO GET INTO THE HOUSE.
WE HAD ISSUED A BUILDING PERMIT, UH, LAST, UM, MARCH 31ST BUILDING PERMIT WAS ISSUED ON MARCH 31ST, 1998.
AND, UM, WHEN WE DID ADMINISTRATIVE SEARCH WARRANT, THE OTHER DAY, NO WORK HAD TAKEN PLACE.
AND WHEN MR. SIMMONS CAME TO SEE ME, I ASKED HIM THE SAME QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED HOW MUCH TIME.
I SAID, I CAN'T GIVE YOU SIX MONTHS, BUT I MIGHT WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU FOR 60 DAYS.
LIKE WE NORMALLY DO ON A HEARING.
THERE WAS A HEARING THAT WAS PRESENTED ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY BACK IN 11, 16 98, AND HIS TIME INSPIRED 1 16 99.
AND, UM, SO AS FAR AS THE MINIMUM HOUSING CODE GOES, HIS TIME HAS EXPIRED.
IS THAT A SITE YOU WILL SEE THE SAME MANNER DURING ALL THIS? YES, SIR.
WELL, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'VE GIVE THEM OTHER PEOPLE, CHANCES I'D LIKE TO, UH, AT LEAST THE LATEST MATTER UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND LET THEM TALK TO JULIUS AND SEE THAT JUDY'S HOUSE AND PUT ON A SENSE OF IT AFFECTS HIM MORE SO THAN THE REST OF US.
I THINK IT'S THE FAIR THING TO DO SINCE WE'VE SET A PRECEDENT BY ACTIVE WORKING WITH FOLK WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GOING TO DO IT, BUT I THINK JULIUS OUGHT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT AS WELL.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS THEN HIS DISTRICT.
WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T, UH, THAT'S 60 DAYS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU COULD BE WORKING ON THAT WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE WAITING AND THAT 60 DAYS BEING TAKEN PLACE AND JUDY'S GOING TO GET ONTO IT.
AS SOON AS HE GETS BACK FROM ATLANTA, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT MEETING FOR HIM TO GET INVOLVED IN IT.
WELL, MR. BOUNDARY HERE, HERE'S THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE BY ISSUE HIM A BUILDING PERMIT.
THAT'S TELLING HIM THAT HE CAN GO IN AND FIX THE HOUSE.
YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULD WORK WITH IT FOR 60 DAYS.
YOU, UH, TWO LOCKED OUT FOR HERE OR WHATEVER.
UH, HE WANTS 60 DAYS TO START FINISHING THE HOUSE, FIXING THE HOUSE.
THE HEARING'S ALREADY BEEN OVER WITH IT.
AND, AND, AND ALL THAT IS OVER WITH WHERE ARE YOU GIVING THEM? 60 DAYS FOR THEM.
I WAS WILLING TO WORK WITH HIM IN RELATION TO WHAT MY FILE HAD ALREADY SAID ONE TIME BEFORE, IF HE COULD GET IT DONE IN 60 DAYS, LIKE I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT OTHER PEOPLE IN THE SAME SITUATION THAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS IN.
IF HE COULD GET IT DONE IN 60 DAYS, I WAS MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH HIM TO BRING THE HOUSE INTO COMPLIANCE.
AND IF HE GOT IT FAR ENOUGH, ALONG IN THAT 60 DAYS, THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH HIM.
LIKE WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE ON PROPERTIES.
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT, IF I ISSUE HIM A BUILDING PERMIT, I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT I'LL TRY MY BEST TO EXPLAIN.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU WILLING TO GIVE HIM 60 DAYS, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
60 DAYS TO DO HOT WORK ON THE HOUSE? YES, SIR.
DOES HE NEED A BUILDING PERMIT? YES HE DOES.
YOU WERE GOING TO LET HIM WORK ON IT WITHOUT A BUILDING PERMIT? NO, SIR.
HIS BUILDING PERMIT HASN'T HAD EXPIRED.
HIS BUILDING PERMIT THAT HE HAS NOW IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.
HE WOULD HAVE TO GET A NEW PERMIT IN 60 DAYS.
HOW COULD HE WORK ON IT WITHOUT A PERMIT? HOW COULD HE DO? HE COULD NOT.
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I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THIS, MY FILE SHOWS THAT WE GAVE HIM, GAVE HIM A 60 DAYS.HE WAS ISSUED A BUILDING PERMIT HIS BUILDING PERMIT AT SPIRE.
THEREFORE I'VE COME BEFORE THIS BOARD TONIGHT FOR AN ORDINANCE TO DEMOLISH NOT TO GIVE HIM ANY ADDITIONAL TIME.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN HIM SIX TODAY.
HE'S BEEN GIVEN A YEAR, BUT DID YOU SAY THAT YOU TELL HIM YOU'LL GIVE HIM 60 DAYS IF HE COULD GET IT DONE IN 60 DAYS? YES MA'AM.
I DID TELL HIM I WOULD DO THAT.
I WOULD WORK WITH HIM WITH THE 60 DAYS THE OTHER DAY, BUT I COULD NOT WORK WITH SIX MONTHS.
60 DAYS, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU SUGGEST TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS WORK WITH A PROPERTY OWNER.
LIKE I HAVE IN TIMES PAST, WHEN HE TOLD ME HE COULD NOT DO IT IN 60 DAYS, HE SAID HE NEEDED SIX MONTHS.
I HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE, BUT TO CARRY IT BEFORE THE BOARD FOR A DEMOLITION ORDERS, BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY HAD A YEAR, SIX MONTHS, I DON'T SEE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IN SIX MONTHS, IF YOU DIDN'T DO IT IN 12 MONTHS.
BUT IF, IF, IF IN 60 DAYS, IF YOU REALLY MEAN BUSINESS OF BRINGING THE HOUSE INTO COMPLIANCE, YOU'LL PUT YOURSELF INTO, INTO WORKING ON THE HOUSE AND TRYING TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE.
I'M SAYING IN 60 DAYS HE HAS TO HAVE COMPLETED THE RENOVATIONS OF THE HOUSE.
AT LEAST WE GENERALLY USE A RULE OF THUMB OF 75%.
AND THAT'S A DISCRETIONARY CALL OF OUR, ON OUR PART, MR.
ON, I'M TRYING TO NOW, BEFORE YOU, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS AND THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY ON OUR APPROVED TO 60 DAYS, BUT LET ME POINT OUT TO THE BOARD THAT WHEN YOU START TINKERING AROUND WITH THE PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE, AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME KIND OF CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD IN THE WORK SESSION ABOUT WHY THINGS DON'T GET DONE AND WHY WE ARE GOING TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.
AND SO EVERY TIME YOU MAKE AN EXCEPTION HERE, YOU OPEN YOURSELF UP TO THE NEXT TWO OR THREE PEOPLE WHO COME UP FOR EXCEPTION.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT I HAVEN'T TALKED WITH JOHNNY ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT, AND IF HE WANTS TO DO THE 60, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO DO THE 60 DAYS, THAT'S TOTALLY WITHIN YOUR PREROGATIVE.
BUT WHAT I AM POINTING OUT TO YOU IS THAT YOU WANTED DUFFY FIELD CLEAN.
YOU WANTED TO HOUSE THIS DOWN, WE'RE OUT THERE TAKING THE HOUSES DOWN AND WE'RE OUT THERE CLEANING UP DUFFY FIELD.
BUT EVERY TIME YOU MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR ONE PERSON, YOU BRING UP THREE OR FOUR MORE PEOPLE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO DO TO JUST PULL THIS PROCESS OUT FURTHER ON, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
WHAT I SUGGESTED WAS THAT PRIOR WE WERE WAITING FOR JULIUS TO GET BACK AND LET HIM GO AHEAD AND WORK FOR 60 DAYS WITH HIM.
I DIDN'T SAY VOTE FOR AN EXCEPTIONAL, EVEN VOTE ON IT TONIGHT.
NO, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU KNOW, THE THING IS SOMEHOW WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING THAT CAUSES US FROM HAVING TO DO THIS OVER AND OVER.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE GIVE THIS GENTLEMAN 60 DAYS AND THEN 60 DAYS FROM NOW, NOTHING IS DONE.
AND I'M SAY, IT'S NOT EVEN THIS GUY.
LET'S JUST SAY IT, SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND THEN THAT SOMEBODY ELSE, LIKE WE'VE HAD TO PASS, WE'LL COME UP AND WALK 60 MORE DAYS OR SIX MORE MONTHS OR THIS OR THAT, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE MIND, WE HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, EITHER YOU'RE GOING TO FIX THE THING OR, OR LET'S SAY TAKE A WORST EXAMPLE OF IT IS THAT IN 60 DAYS HE EXPENDS SEVEN OR $8,000 AND DOES 50% OF THE WORKOUT THERE.
AND WE SAY, NOW IT NEEDS TO COME DOWN.
AND HE COMES BACK TO THE BOARD AND SAYS, WELL, I'VE ALREADY GOT $8,000 IN THIS PROPERTY.
NOW I NEED ANOTHER 60 DAYS IN ORDER TO GET THE WHOLE THING DONE.
AND THEN HE COMES BACK IN 60 MORE DAYS AND HE'S DONE 75% AND WE WANT TO TAKE IT DOWN.
AND IT JUST BECOMES A PROCESS THAT YOU CANNOT CONTROL.
AND IT STOPS THE WHOLE SYSTEM DOWN.
AND I KNOW WHAT YOU SAY IT, AND I WITHDRAW ANY COMMENTS.
I JUST WENT ALONG WITH WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE A SUGGESTED BY THE, BY THE CITY.
MR. MA, LET ME ASK MR. SIMILAR QUESTION, MR. SEMON WHEN YOU FIRST OBTAIN YOUR BUILDING PERMIT, WHY DIDN'T YOU, UH, BEGIN WORK, STAND UP SO WE CAN HEAR THAT HE WAS TELLING ME THAT I WAS THINKING MORE UNDERSTANDING IT GOT ME, HIM THAT LONG WAS THE HOUSE WAS THE CURE AND WAS NO BARGAINS AND ANYTHING COULD GET INSIDE OF IT.
IT WAS OKAY FOR AWHILE UNTIL, YOU KNOW, I GOT, WE REALLY JUST KIND OF PROCRASTINATE A LITTLE BIT.
WELL, NOT REALLY WELL, NOT REALLY.
GIVE ME SOME TIME WITH MY, THE SUGGESTION WAS TO BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT MEETING AND LET JULIUS HAVE AN INPUT.
WELL, MR. SIMMONS, IF THERE IS AN EXCEPTION GRANTED, IN YOUR CASE, DO YOU HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW THAT YOU CAN SPEND TO MAKE THIS CORRECTIONS OR TO BRING
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YOUR BILL? YOU HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE.DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THIS? YES, SIR.
I MADE THE CALLS, YOU KNOW, THEY FIND THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT AND, AND I, AND I, I THINK WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB AT IT.
WE TRY TO DO IT IS THE RIGHTS OF A PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS PRETTY SACRED IN THIS COUNTRY VERSUS THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW? AND, AND, AND, AND EVEN IF SOMETHING'S GOING TO BE HABITABLE AND BE A HOUSE OR, OR, AND THAT'S WHY WE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SAKE OF THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL WELFARE AS IT IS, THE CONSTITUTION SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ON THE THING EITHER.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A HOUSE OUT OF IT, MORE POWER TO YOU, WE'D LIKE TO SEE A HOUSE MADE AT IT, BUT WE CAN'T SIT AROUND AND JUST WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT.
IT JUST DRAGS THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN.
WHEN WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH HIS HOUSE, IS IT JUST, YOU KNOW, COMING APART.
SO IF YOU WANT TO FIX IT UP, WE ASKED YOU YOUR COOPERATION AND WE TRY TO COOPERATE.
BUT IF NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT COMES DOWN TO CUT THE BAIT AS THEY SAY FISHING.
SO Y'ALL WANT TO PUT IT OFF TO JULIUS TO NOTICE BACK AND CENSUS HIS BOARD AND LET HIM TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
SO WE JUST, AND I CAN'T, I DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING TO THE HOUSE UNTIL WE COME BACK TO NEXT WEEK.
TALK, MR. PINE, YOU NEED TO TALK TO HIM, TALK TO SUPPLIER.
CAN YOU NAME ONE THAT MR. CARR AND JUNIORS COMES BACK AND LET HIM LOOK INTO ALL THIS.
AND SINCE IT'S IN HIS WARD, WE DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE, YES, SIR, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING, BUT I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET IT LIE.
EITHER WE DO SOMETHING OR WHATNOT.
WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST NOT DOING WHAT WE SAID.
THERE GONNA BE MORE COMING TO YOU.
WELL, IF IT IS, IT IS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS, BUT WE HAVE OUR DUTY TO DO, TO TAKE CARE OF, AND WE WILL.
UM, AND THEN I WON'T TAKE LONG AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED.
I JUST WANT THE BOARD TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING.
WHEN I SIT IN MY OFFICE AND I DEAL WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT'S WHEN I NEGOTIATE WITH THESE PEOPLE.
AND I, AND I, AND WE BEND OVER BACKWARDS TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH FOLKS WHEN I BRING IT TO THE BOARD.
AND I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE RULES AND THE REGULATIONS YOU DO.
WHEN I COME BEFORE THIS BOARD WITH UP WITH A DEMOLITION ORDINANCE, IT'S NOT FOR ME TO NEGOTIATE.
MY, MY, MY PURPOSE TO COME TO THIS BOARD IS ASK YOU TO, TO GIVE ME AN ORDINANCE TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE.
THAT'S ALL MY PURPOSE IS HERE.
TONIGHT IS THE GRANT IS TO ASK YOU TO GRANT ME AN ORDINANCE TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE, BECAUSE I'M FOLLOWING THE RULES AND THE REGULATIONS OF THE, UH, THE MINIMUM HOUSING CODE IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
IF Y'ALL DECIDE TO PUT IT OFF, THEN IT'S Y'ALL.
AND I, AND BECAUSE I'VE DONE MY NEGOTIATING SITTING IN MY OFFICE WITH THESE PEOPLE.
SO WHEN YOU COME TO US, YOU'VE EXHAUSTED ALL EFFORTS TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
BUT LET ME TELL YOU THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT FROM OUR SIDE OF IT, SEE, WHEN YOU COME TO US AND, AND YOU HAVE DONE ALL THESE THINGS, WHICH I'M, UM, I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE, YOU MAY NOT THINK YOU HONORABLE PERSON, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FULL US ANYTHING, EXCEPT SOMETHING SAYS ADOPT ORDINANCE TO REMOVE A DEMOLISHED 16, 12 DELAHUNT STREET OR WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE ON HIS PROTECTOR THING.
WE DON'T SEE THAT LITANY OF STUFF THAT YOU'VE GOT TO SAY, AS YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH TO US AND WE WENT THROUGH THAT AND HE DECIDED TO DO THIS.
WE ISSUED THAT AND ISSUED THE ELA.
AND THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT, IF IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO COME BEFORE US, I MEAN, IT MUST BE SOME REASON THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO COME BEFORE US OR OUT SHE'D HAVE THE POWER TO JUST REACH THAT DECISION ON YOUR OWN AND DEMOLISH IT.
AND THAT REASON MUST BE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, IT MUST BE A SERIOUS THING WHEN WE'RE GOING TO TEAR IT OUT OF HOUSE.
AND SO THAT LAST, LAST CHECK AND BALANCE, I GUESS YOU MIGHT SAY IS US.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KINDA THE WAY WE HAVE TO DO IT.
I MEAN, IT'D BE MUCH EASIER JUST TO CLOSE OUR EYES AND YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DONE YOUR JOB AND LET IT, LET IT GO.
BUT WHAT IT IS, AND ONE OF THE, YES, SIR.
WELL, I MEAN, REALLY WHAT, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, AND THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION.
AND, UH, THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS, HAS KNOWN HIM OF OUR FRUSTRATIONS IN TIMES PAST.
AND IF I'M SPEAKING OUT OF ORDER, I'M SURE HARTMAN WILL CRAWL ALL OVER MY BUTT AND MORNING.
BUT, BUT THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT, THAT, THAT WE HAVE IN OUR OFFICE IS THIS.
WE, WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE THINGS.
I MEAN, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THESE FILES TRYING TO GET THESE FOLKS TO FIX THEIR HOUSES UP AND SO FORTH.
WE SIT DOWN AND WE MEET WITH THEM.
WE MEET WITH THEM, WE MEET WITH THEM.
AND THEN WE, WE W WHEN WE FINALLY EXHAUSTED EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE, WE BRING TO THIS BOARD, AND THEN THIS BOARD SAYS, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER 90 DAYS.
AND THEN THAT 90 DAYS JUMPS INTO ANOTHER 90 DAYS.
BUT THAT'S RARE THOUGH, ISN'T IT? NO, SIR.
I CAN SHOW YOU FILES MR. RAINER.
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THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE SYSTEM ONE.HOW MANY IN THIS, IN THE LAST YEAR, HAVE WE DELAYED? YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST YEAR I CAN COUNT PROBABLY I THINK THREE, THREE OUT OF WHAT? OH, I DON'T, I DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT MANY DOWN LAST YEAR, BUT I MEAN, EVEN THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE STATUTES, WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO REQUIRED TO DO, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
I MEAN, HONESTLY, I DON'T LIKE HIM COMING BEFORE ME, THESE, THESE DEMOLITION, THE HOUSES, BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M HUMAN.
LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE ON ASS, HARD TO BELIEVE AFTER YOU'VE RUN THROUGH A FEW ELECTIONS, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S TOUGH TO JUST SIT IN THESE SITUATIONS FOR US, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS TO IT AND THAT TYPE OF THING, BUT SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND I'M SURE YOU ARE TOO.
AND I HOPEFULLY THE FOLKS THAT OWN THE HOUSE, IT'S ALL, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE, THE WHOLE THING IS EITHER THERE'S GOING TO BE A HOUSE BY DEFINITION.
IT'S NOT GOING TO MEET CODE AND THAT KIND OF THING, OR IT'S NOT.
AND IF IT'S NOT, WE ALL NEED TO SHAKE HANDS AND ADMIT AND JUST KNOCK ON BAY ONE AND GET IT OUT OF THERE.
BUT AS I GET ARRESTED AND NEIGHBORS, IT'S ALMOST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE REPRESENT PEOPLE AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO COME BEFORE SEMI, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN AND BE AS SENSITIVE AS WE CAN BE ANYBODY IN THE WORLD TO TAKE A BEATING ON THESE HOUSES HAVE BEEN KNOCKED DOWN.
I DEFINITELY HAVE TAKEN A BIG DENT IN IT.
IF I FELT THAT WE WERE DOING SOMETHING TO SOMEONE THAT DID VIOLATE THEIR RIGHTS OR ON THAT WAS INSENSITIVE TO THEM, THEN OF COURSE, I'D BE THE FIRST TO BE YELLING ABOUT IT.
I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO MOST DEFINITELY, ESPECIALLY IN THESE PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOODS, HOWEVER, THEY STILL NEED THAT OPTION WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO TALK TO US.
WE'LL SHOW WHAT I CAN TELL HIM.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE THING IS LIKE YOU SAYING, WE ALSO HAVE VARIOUS AREAS OF OBLIGATION TO THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY WANT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS CLEAN TO BE NICE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, YOU AND THEY ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT WE KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE VOLUNTEERS, WE ALL WANT TO WORK TOGETHER.
THE ONES THAT OWN THE HOUSES, ONE THAT LIVES AROUND THE HOUSES, THE CITY WHO HAS THE DUTY TO LOOK AFTER AS MANY FOLKS AS WE CAN.
SO LET'S ALL KIND OF WORK YOU HAVE AND SEE IF WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING.
IT'S PRETTY FRUSTRATING AT TIMES.
SO ANYWAY, WE'RE WAITING FOR JULIUS TO COME BACK ON THAT ONE.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER TWO? OH, UNTIL YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THAT ONE IS FOR NUMBER EIGHT AND NINE.
HERE'S THE STIPULATION WITH THE STIPULATIONS.
WE'RE AT THE STATE OF YOUR LICENSE.
WE GOT A SLACK IT FROM A RHINO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
WE'VE BEEN THAT MY MOM WAS ON THE BOARD.
I HAVE HANDED OUT A RESOLUTION WITH DUPLICATE THE ONE WHICH WAS IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE WITH ONE EXCEPTION AND THE ONE IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE.
IT PROVIDED THAT FOR AUTHORIZED DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BY JOHNSON MODEL 6 0 5 VACUUM STREET, SWEEPER STERLING STERLING CHASSIS FOR THE SUMMER OF 19,000, SOME ODD DOLLARS.
THAT THING IS A TOTAL OF THE 16,319, WHICH IS NOW IN SECTION TWO AND THE SEVERAL ITEMS WHICH ARE SEPARATED.
AND IN SECTION THREE, UH, I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER TO COMPLY WITH THE STATUTE UNDER WHICH THIS IS BEING DONE.
IF IT WERE NOT IN THAT FASHION.
TO ME, WHEN I CAME IN, MARY TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS A PROVISION THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THAT RESOLUTION RELATIVE TO REIMBURSEMENT.
AND DANNY HAS SINCE HANDED ME THE LANGUAGE IS NOT IN THE RESOLUTION, BUT IF YOU WILL APPROVE IT WITH THIS, I'LL HAVE IT PUT IN AND INSERTED IN THERE IN THE MORNING.
IT JUST READS THAT TO SEE A NEW ONE AND TENNIS FINANCING COSTS THIS PURCHASE WITH AN INSTALLMENT CONTRACT AND INTENDED TO REVERSE ITSELF FROM THE PROCEEDS OF THE DEBT ISSUE FOR THE WALDEN ADOPTED REVOLUTION, A DECLARATION OF OFFICIAL INTENT TO REIMBURSE NUMBER ONE, BUT DENTIFICATION PURPOSES ON SEPTEMBER 14TH, 1999.
I'M GOING TO GO DOWN TO THE RESOLUTION ON THE CONDITION THAT IT BE AMENDED, UH, AS READ BY, UH, MR. WARD AND THAT HE INCORPORATE, UH, THE MATTER HE
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READ INTO THIS RESOLUTION.IT ANY FARTHER, IT'S NOT I'LL ROLL PLEASE.
WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE HERE? APPOINTMENTS? YES, SIR.
I, I'M EXCITED TO NOMINATE ANTHONY L RINGLE OF 1407 ROOM AVENUE, REVEAL NUMBER OF SHIP OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
UH, HE TAKES THE PLACE OF JIMMY DUEL.
I WANT TO TELL YOU TO SAY HE'S APPOINTED MISCELLANEOUS.
I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS CENSUS WEEK.
MAKE SURE YOU SEND IN YOUR CENSUS FORMS. AND THIS IS A WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR US.
IF WE NEED TO COUNT EVERYBODY IN 1990, THE COUNT FOR THE CITY OF NEW BERN WAS ABOUT 22,000.
WE'RE ALL ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE COUNT WILL BE WHEN WE MAKE THE COUNT UNTIL THE YEAR 2000.
UM, I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SAMSON AND I ARE PLANNING A COMMUNITY MEETING FOR DEPUTY FIELD ON APRIL 15TH.
IT'S GOING TO BE AN OPEN AIR MEETING.
SO IF HE DOES LOSE SOME OF THOSE BOARDS THAT SORT OF SATURDAY EVENING AROUND FOUR, AND WE'RE GIVING THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT AND UNDERSTAND THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, THEY WON'T STAMP THERE.
WE'D LIKE FOR THE STAFF TO BE THERE, WE'RE GOING TO SET UP AN ITINERARY KIND OF SMALL LITTLE COMMITTEE WHO WILL BE GETTING TOGETHER TO PLAN THE ITINERARY FOR THE EVENING.
OH, IT'S GOING TO BE ON SINCE MR. STANLEY GAVE HER LOCKS AND SISTER SAMSON.
WE TRYING TO DECIDE NOW WHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT OKAY.
YOU KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER SAMSON LIVED THAT AREA RIGHT THERE AND OUTSIDE OF THE, THE THERE MIKE AND I TALK, I BELIEVE.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING WHERE IT'S MORE VISIBLE WHERE ASSISTER STANLEY'S LOT IS ON THE CORNER OF MAIN STREET AND YOU DON'T HAVE CHAIRS OUT THERE.
WELL, WE COULD HAVE CHAIRS, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT WHAT I CONSIDER A C I MEAN, WHAT IS THE STORY? STAY THE WHITE, BECAUSE SEE OLDER PEOPLE, THEY NEED TO SIT DOWN, JUST GET CHANGED.
WELL, WE WERE TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO FAR FROM THEIR HOMES AND IT'S RIGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THOSE WHO WOULDN'T TRADITIONALLY GO TO A COMMUNITY MEETING CAN JUST MEAL UP TO THE AREA.
AND IF THEY, IF THEY'D LIKE JUST THROWING IT OUT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHO HAS CONTROL, NOBODY SHOOT ME.
RIGHT? LIKE ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT.
LIKE TO INVITE ALL OF YOU TO COME SO Y'ALL CAN SHIELD SHEILA'S ANYWAY.
UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE FOR MR. CLARK ON MIKE, TO EXPLAIN WHILE OTHERS CAN VIEW THIS PROGRAM, THE PROCEDURE, ONCE A HOUSE IS NOT GASSING PEOPLE, UNINFORMED OR MISINFORMED OF SPED SPREADING THE PROPAGANDA, THAT WHEN WE KNOCKED THEIR HOUSES, THAT WE TAKE THEIR LAND OR WE TAKE THE AREA, WHICH IS WHAT WE, WE DON'T DO THAT.
AND SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THAT PROCEDURE IS, AS FAR AS OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND.
OH, THE, THE DWELLING IS STRUCTURE IS NOT DOWN.
THEN WHOEVER KNOCKS IT DOWN FOR US.
IF, IF THE CITY WAS THE ONE WHO HAD THE ACTUALLY DID THE WORK, THEN THE COST OF THAT DEMOLITION IS PUT AS A LIEN AGAINST THE PROPERTY.
PROPERTY OWNER ACTUALLY HAS 30 DAYS TO PAY THE BILL, BUT, UM, OUR TAX OFFICE ALSO, AND THIS IS WHAT WE EXPLAINED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE TAX OFFICE AND THEY CAN SET UP A PAYMENT SCHEDULE WITH AND WORK OUT SOMETHING WITH THE, UH, TAX COLLECTOR TO, TO, TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS THAT WOULD FIT PROPERLY AS BEST WE KNOW HOW THAT'LL FIT IN THEIR SCHEDULE, WHERE THEY CAN PAY THIS, THIS, UH, MONEY BACK WHERE NO, WE DO NOT TAKE THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANT IT TO BE KNOWN THAT WE, ON THAT WE NOT HITTING YOUR PROPERTY BUSINESS.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE ANYBODY'S PROPERTY.
WE DO NOT TAKE THEIR PROPERTY.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, MANY PEOPLE WHOSE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN, UH, HOUSES HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED THAT WERE IN THEIR FAMILY HAVE SAID THAT THEY WERE PLEASED OF THIS FACT AND OTHERS HAVE CALLED AND ASKING THEM, WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE NOW, PLEASE, BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN ON THE PROPERTY FOR MANY YEARS, THEY COULDN'T AFFORD TO KNOCK IT DOWN.
AND NOW THAT THEY'VE KNOCKED IT DOWN, THEY COULD USE THE LAND TO PUT A MODULAR
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OR TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.SO I EVEN HAD SOME PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA CALLED ME AND ASKED ME TO ASK YOU GUYS, IF YOU WOULD NOT HAVE STEM FOR WELL.
AND WE, WE DO HAVE A VOLUNTARY DEMOLITION AGREEMENT THAT CAN BE SIGNED BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
WE HAVE, I THINK WITHIN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, I THINK MR. HARTMAN HAS SIGNED ON TWO OR THREE OF THOSE, WHAT WAS ALREADY, SO I'LL TELL HIM, BARBARA, JUST FOR ACCURACY, IF THEY DON'T PAY OFF THAT LIEN, THEY WILL EXECUTE ON IT AND SELL IT TO PAY IT OFF.
I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, THAT, UH, IF THERE IS NO SATISFACTORY ARRANGEMENTS MADE AND THERE ARE NO PAYMENTS MADE ON THE LIEN, THEN THE ULTIMATE DUTY OF THE CITY IS TO RECOVER THE LIEN SO THAT WE WOULD AT THAT TIME FORECLOSE ON THE PROPERTY.
SO IT IS WHILE WE DO TRY TO WORK WITH THEM, THAT FINAL THING IS ALWAYS OUT THERE IN CASE IT DOES NOT GET PAID.
THEN THE PROPERTY COULD COME TO THE CITY OR TO GO TO SOMEONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.
AS LONG AS WE CAN GET THE LEAN SAVAGE SANDWICHES, THE SAME AS IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR TAX, WHICH IS THE SAME AS IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR TAXES, WE'VE SPENT TIME, MAN, EVERYBODY ELSE
SO LEGAL PROCESS, IT GENERALLY TAKES A YEAR OR MORE FROM THE TIME YOU INSTITUTED.
AND WE REALLY DON'T TRY TO INSTITUTE IT UNTIL AFTER WE'VE GIVEN THEM ADEQUATE TIME TO REALLY COME IN AND MAKE ARRANGEMENTS.
AND SO EVEN THEN, AT ANY POINT IN TIME DURING THE PROCESS, THEY COULD COME IN AND PAY IT OFF AND STOP THE PROCESS IN ITS TRACKS FLIGHT UP TO THE LAST DAY.
BUT AS ALDERMAN RAINER POINTED OUT, THE FINAL THING IS OUT THERE.
IF WE DON'T RECOVER THE MONEY IN SOME OTHER WAY.
SO IF THEY WANT IT KNOCKED DOWN YOURS TO COME OUT AND KNOCK IT DOWN, THEY HAD TO PAY FOR IT, RIGHT? THEY HAVEN'T.
UH, I MOVED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS PROPERTY ACQUISITION AFTER YOU FINISHED.
HE'S LIKE ONE THING WE DO THAT.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, ESPECIALLY THE FOLKS WHO THEY'VE HAD, THE HOUSES ARE GOING TO HAVE DEMOLISHED THE WHATEVER YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY FOR SOME YEARS NOW.
AND I GUESS THE REST OF THE BOARD ALSO SAY THAT WE FEEL LIKE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE AT LEAST BE SECURE IN THEIR HOMES, MEANING THAT YOU ALL HAVE A PLACE THAT YOU CAN GO TO.
AND AS THE OLD SAYING IS PULL THE COVERS OVER YOUR HEAD AND, AND, UH, HIS ISSUE HOME, YOU KNOW, YOU SECURE IT IS YOURS.
UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TWO LOUD MUSIC AND NOISE NEXT DOOR, HOPEFULLY TO KEEP YOU AWAKE.
UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS OTHER THINGS.
IT'S A MAN'S CASTLE IN THIS COUNTY.
NOW, THAT BEING SAID, THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE ORDINANCES ARE SUCH, THAT THEY TEAR DOWN THESE OLD DEMOLISHED HOMES BECAUSE BY DEFINITION, DEMOLISH THOSE HOMES, THEIR HOMES THAT NOBODY LIVES IN, AND THEY HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE PEOPLE WHO DO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO ALL THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO DO WITH THESE ORDINANCES AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IS ONCE AGAIN, IF, IF, IF YOU GOT TO AIR ONE WAY OR THE OTHER YOU AIR AND TYPE THE PERSON WHO LIVES THERE.
SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT SOMEHOW THAT THE CITY IS OUT TRYING TO KNOCK OVER THE HOUSES OR A LIGHT BULB WAS TALKING ABOUT THINKING THE CITY WAS TRYING TO TAKE THE LAND OR WHATEVER.
WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S THEIR HOME, AND THEY WANT A NICE PLACE TO LIVE, AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AMERICAN WAY.
SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY WILL UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO NOW MR. REINER HAS MADE A SECOND, MADE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND MR. BALLENGER HAS SECONDED IT.
SO EVERYBODY ELSE WILL HAVE TO.