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WE BOUGHT A THANK YOU FOR OUR TRAVEL TO THIS MEETING.
WE BRING YOU HERE WITH US, BUT WE REALIZED THAT WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING, BUT WITH YOU, DEAR GOD, WE CAN MOVE AND DO THE BUSINESS THAT YOU HAVE PLACE UPON OUR HEARTS TO DO HERE THIS EVENING, WE EMPTY OURSELVES OF OUR WEARINESS OF THIS DAY.
WE ASK THAT YOU MAY FEEL US WITH COMPASSION WITH THE LISTENING EAR AND WITH WISDOM, DEAR GOD, THAT WE MIGHT HEAR THE CONCERNS AND THE WITCHES OF THE PEOPLE.
WHEN THIS MEETING IS OVER, THAT WE ALL CAN LEAVE IN PEACE AND HARMONY TO RETURN TO OUR COMMUNITIES TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
AND YOU, OUR MEN, THE LIVES OF YOUR PEOPLE IN JESUS NAME, WE PRAY AMEN AND TUTORED BY THE NATION AND INDIVIDUAL.
FIRST-LINE WOULD LIKE TO DO, I'D LIKE TO DO BEFORE WE GET STARTED TONIGHT IS RECOGNIZE SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE AND HE'S A REPORTER.
THAT'S HERE FROM, UH, I GUESS YOU'D CALL IT OUR MOTHER CITY IN BERN, SWITZERLAND, PETER, I CAN'T PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME.
SAY IF YOU WOULD, UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND COME FORTH AND, UH, YOU CAN COME UP TO THIS MICROPHONE AND I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND LET YOU SAY A FEW THINGS.
I KNOW YOU FEEL ON THE SPOT, BUT HE HE'S HERE TO SEE SORT OF HOW WE DO THINGS.
SO HE CAN GO BACK TO THE BURN AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET IT.
THEY DO IT RIGHT, YOU KNOW, JUST IN CASE.
BUT, UH, WE WERE DISCUSSING TODAY HOW, HOW PROUD WE ARE TO BE A PART OF THEM.
ARE THEY A PART OF US AND, AND SWITZERLAND, YOU KNOW, UH, ADOPTED A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUTION BACK IN THE LATE 18 HUNDREDS.
AND FOR A COUNTRY THAT'S HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD.
SO WE REALLY DO FEEL SOME KINSHIP.
PETER, IF YOU LIKE TO TELL US YOUR FULL NAME AND MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.
MY NAME IS PETER
I'M COME OVER HERE FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS TO MAKE SOME STORIES FOR OUR PEOPLE TO LOOK HOW THE PEOPLE IS LIVING HERE IN NEW BERN.
AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE MAYOR AND TO SEVERAL OTHER PERSONS.
AND IT'S A VERY GOOD TASTE FOR ME.
AND I'M LEAVING TOMORROW OF NEW PETER V HEIST AND SEE SPEAK GENTLEMEN.
IT'S ALL OF THEM AND REINER AND HE'S EXCUSE ME.
SO YOU AIN'T BEEN ON THE BOARD QUITE A LOT LONGER THAN A YOUNG WHIPPERSNAPPER LIKE MYSELF, I GUESS THEY CALLED ME, SIR.
SO WE HOPE THAT THE MAG CAN, CAN, UM, COME TO BURN IF HE HAS NOT SO AFRAID OF THE AIRPLANES, THE AIRPLANES.
AND I EXPLAINED THAT TO HIM AND I TOLD HIM THAT THEY MADE ME PROMISE.
I WOULDN'T COME WHILE I'M STILL MAYOR.
AND I ALWAYS KEEP MY PROMISES, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT,
BUT I WILL, I'LL GO OVER THERE.
AND MAYBE SOME OF THESE FOLKS MAY GO TO, AND IF YOU CALL ME, SIR, TOM, I'M STAYING OVER THERE.
AND HE'S HERE TONIGHT TO KIND OF OBSERVE US, AS I SAID AND SEE WHAT WE DO.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY HE'LL GIVE US A GOOD REPORT CARD WHEN HE GOES, ALL RIGHT.
FIRST THING WE HAVE TONIGHT IS THE OATH OF OFFICE FOR A NEW POLICE OFFICER, WHICH HAS ALWAYS, HE HAS THIS PLEASURE HERE.
LET ME TRY ON MY NOTES HERE SOMEWHERE HERE.
HE IS THE MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I GET HERE A NUMBER OF TIMES BEFORE BRINGING YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN UP HERE TO BECOME POLICE OFFICERS.
AND IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO DO THAT.
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UH, THE YOUNG MAN WE HAVE TODAY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SPECIAL OCCASION FOR THIS YOUNG MAN, BECAUSE HE'S BECOMING A POLICE OFFICER AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY HIM.HOW ABOUT THAT? WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY THIS ONE.
UH, MATTHEW SCHAEFER IS GOING TO BE SWORN IN TODAY AS A RESERVE OFFICER FOR THE NEWARK POLICE DEPARTMENT.
HE'S GOT A FULL-TIME JOB, HE'S A EMS PARAMEDIC.
AND UH, SO HE'S GOING TO BE A WELCOME ADDITION TO US.
AND AT THIS RATE OF PAY, WE COULD AFFORD A WHOLE LOT OF THEM GUYS.
CAN I IMAGINE YOU COULD, ESPECIALLY ONE WITH THAT KIND OF TRAINING ALREADY.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO STAY IN AND BE RECOGNIZED, WE, UH, WE UNDERSTAND FULLY THAT THE FAMILY IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART, AT LEAST FOR US.
AND, UH, KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE WERE SWEARING MORE THAN ONE OF, AND WE, NOBODY, WE DID THAT.
AND WE ALSO LIKE TO SAVE THEM.
YOU SAID IT MANY TIMES BEFORE THAT WE HAD A GOAL TO TRY TO MAKE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT VERIFYING THIS ONE ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOTTEN THAT FAR YET, BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ANYBODY THAT WANTED TO BE A POLICE OFFICER AND BELONG TO A REAL ELITE CORE, IN MY OPINION, ISN'T THE PLACE TO BE.
NOW THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE REQUEST AND PETITIONS UPSET LESSONS.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WANTED TO COME FORTH TONIGHT AND SPEAK MR. BELL FOR ONE, YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORTH AND WE'LL GET STARTED ON THAT.
UM, MY PETITION BEFORE THE BOARD IS IN REFERENCE TO MY FORMER PETITION REGARDING THE FIVE TRUMP NUMBER 13 IN PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.
SO AT THIS POINT, BASED ON YOUR REQUEST OF, BY CHIEF US ASTER TO BRING BACK A, UH, A SPECIFIED, UH, MAINTENANCE RECORDS, I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO TAKE THE PODIUM BEFORE ME.
MR. ASKED, IF YOU MIGHT COME LET US KNOW ABOUT THE FIRE TRUCK.
MS. MAYOR MEMBERS OF A BOARD, EXCUSE ME.
DOES MR. BELL HAVE A COPY OF THE REPORT? HE DOES.
I HAVE SUBMITTED UPON YOUR REQUEST, A LIST OF THE MAINTENANCE RECORDS FOR ENGINE 31, WHICH IS A 1978 PIERCE ON A FORD, C 8,000 CHASSIS.
THAT IS, UH, CURRENTLY STATIONED AT FIRE STATION NUMBER THREE ON NATIONAL AVENUE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ONLY THING THAT'S ON THIS REPORT, UH, WOULD BE, UH, ANY MAINTENANCE, UM, THAT WE HAVE PERFORMED ON THE VEHICLE.
UH, IT'S A, IT'S A FAIRLY DETAILED REPORT ON THE DAILY ACCOUNTS.
UM, IF THE REGULAR DAILY REPORTS, AS YOU SAW A FEW MONTHS AGO WERE, UH, SEVERAL, UM, BINDERS FULL.
AND, UH, THIS IS HOPEFULLY WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND, UH, SEE THE, UH, MAINTENANCE THAT WE HAVE PERFORMED ON THAT VEHICLE.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S GENERALLY VERY MINOR MAINTENANCE, UH, PROBLEMS WITH THE VEHICLE, UH, LIGHT BULB PROBLEMS, DRAIN VALVE PROBLEMS, THE DAILY PROBLEMS THAT YOU RECEIVE ON ANY FIRE TRUCK.
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WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DECEMBER, THE FIRST OF 1999 WAS THE ONLY FAILURE THE TRUCK HAD IN 1999.HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH OTHER TRUCKS OUT? UM, WELL FOR A TRUCK THAT'S THIS AGE, IS IT COMPARES EQUALLY WITH ANY OTHER TRUCK? UH, IF THIS TRUCK IS, UM, ASSIGNED TO STATION THREE BECAUSE IT'S, UM, UH, OUR OLDEST AND PROBABLY THE MOST UNRELIABLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED AT THE MAIN STATION AS A SECOND DUAL ENGINE, BECAUSE THE TRUCK FOR A 22 YEAR OLD FIRE TRUCK IS IN RELATIVELY GOOD CONDITION.
THIS IS THE ONLY TIME THAT, TO YOUR RECOLLECTION, THAT IS CAUSED US A PROBLEM ON THE SEAT.
WELL, IT'S NOT THE ONLY TIME THAT IT'S IT'S THIS CAUSED THE PROBLEM ON THE SCENE.
WE CAN ACCOUNT FOR SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHERE, UH, THERE WAS A PROBLEM WHERE IT WOULDN'T SHIFT IN THE GEAR, BUT IT'S GENERALLY, UM, UM, THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE WITH ANYBODY, ANY FIRE APPARATUS, UH, YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND THIS THING GOES FROM A ROGUE GEAR TO A PUMP GEAR, WHICH THERE'S A LOT OF SHIFTING IN, LINING UP.
IT HAS TO TAKE PLACE AND, UH, ANY, ANYTHING COULD BREAK AT ANY TIME.
AND, UH, WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN BY CHECKING THE APPARATUS DAILY.
AND THEN AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE A, UH, A MONTHLY TEST THAT WOULD TAKE PROBABLY AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF TO PERFORM ON EACH PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND THEN AN ANNUAL TEST THAT TAKES SEVERAL HOURS TO PERFORM, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS, UH, CERTIFIABLE AND, AND READY FOR USE, BUT A BRAND NEW, YOU CAN BREAK DOWN, RIGHT? AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN THIS WEEK AS WELL.
I MEAN, WE HAD AN ALTERNATOR TO GO OUT ON, ON, UH, UH, AT THE 1999 SUBSTANCE JUST THE OTHER DAY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST IT'S MECHANICAL PROBLEMS THAT YOU JUST CANNOT HELP.
SO THE FIVE TRUCKING QUESTIONS YOU LOOK AT BY YOUR REPAIR HISTORY, THE REPAIRS HAVEN'T BEEN SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO WARRANT TAKING IT OUT OF SERVICE.
IN FACT, I'M REQUESTED IN MY BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR A NEW FIRE TRUCK, AND WE'RE NOT EVEN SCHEDULED TO REPLACE THIS PARTICULAR ONE.
THERE'S OTHERS IN WORSE CONDITIONS.
I'VE GOT A 1971, UH, WARD LAFRANCIS IN TERRIBLE CONDITION AND IT'S STATIONED OUT OF THE HEADQUARTERS STATION.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SAT IN THE HEADQUARTERS STATION BECAUSE THE SECOND DUDE OUT OF THE HEADQUARTERS STATION NOW, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PUT OUR EQUIPMENT IN ZONES THAT WHERE THEY WERE NUMBERS.
FURTHER QUESTIONS, MR. MR. BELL.
I'M GOING TO ADDRESS, UH, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT A FIRE CHIEF ASTOR MADE AND SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS IN TERMS OF ANY EQUIPMENT, HAVING A TENDENCY TO BREAK DOWN, THIS IS A 22 YEAR OLD FIRE TRUCK.
WE HAVE ONE YEAR DOCUMENTATION ON THIS 22 YEAR OLD FIVE TRUMP.
AGAIN, THIS WAS A QUICK JOB TO GET SOMETHING BY.
AND AS YOU RECALL, I INDICATED THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE MAINTENANCE FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS PREVIOUSLY WHEN I ADDRESSED THIS BOARD.
NOW I HAVE CHECKED OFF SOME ITEMS HERE THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ENGINE PROBLEM, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE REDUNDANT TO DO THAT.
SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS TO ADDRESS YOU THROUGH THIS LETTER, THAT YOU HAVE EACH ONE OF YOU AND TO THE PUBLIC CLOSURE, RE CLOSURE NEWBURN CITY, FIVE TRUCK NUMBER 13 SPECIFIC MAINTENANCE HISTORY REPORT SUBMITTED A SUBMISSION BY FIRE CHIEF BABA, ESTHER, AND THAT'S TODAY'S DATE, APRIL 11TH, 2000 DEAR HONORABLE MAYOR BAYLESS, THE THIRD, THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS OF DUFFIELD AND GLOCK FIELD NEWBERN NORTH CAROLINA APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF FIRE.
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CHIEF BOBBY ASKED HER SPECIFIC MAINTENANCE DOCUMENTATION ON FIRE TRUCK ENGINE NUMBER 13, WHICH IS A 1997 OR 19, 19 77 OR 1978 CHASSIS FRAME PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD OF ALL THE MEN AND ALL THE WOMAN.WE, THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS OF THE AFRO MENTIONED AREAS FEEL, FEEL FIVE TRUCK ENGINE NUMBER 13 IS NOT A RELIABLE VEHICLE TO BE STATIONED AT FIRE STATION THREE PER HIS MALFUNCTION AT THE FIVE SCENE MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE HISTORY, AND AGE FIVE CHIEF ASKED HIM AND HE STATED TONIGHT STATED THE OLDEST FIVE TRUCK.
IN THIS CASE BY TRUCK ENGINE NUMBER 13 IS SENT TO THE LEAST CALL STATION.
NUMBER THREE, THAT DECISION IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE COMMUNITY.
NOW THE FIRE CHIEF STATED EARLIER THAT YES, WE SENT IT TO THE LEAST EFFECTIVE.
THE MOST DIFFICULT EQUIPMENT GOES TO THE LEAST EFFECTIVE COLE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE REQUEST FIVE TRUCK ENGINE, NUMBER 13, BE SENT TO ANYONE OF THE FIVE STATION HOUSING TO FIVE TRUCKS.
WE WANT THE MOST RELIABLE FUNCTIONING FIRE TRUCK FROM ONE OF THOSE STATIONS, IF NOT A NEW FIRE TRUCK, THE COMMUNITY HAS THE MOST OLD WOOD STRUCTURE HOMES REQUIRED DEPENDABLE AND RELIABLE SERVICE.
NOW I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD AND FIRE CHIEF ASKED HER FOR HOPEFULLY YOUR HEARINGS TO THE CITIZEN REQUESTS.
WE CANNOT ACCEPT BASED ON THE PAST EXPERIENCE AND THE HISTORY OF THIS TRIAL, WHICH IS 22 YEARS OLD.
AND WITH ONE YEAR OF MAINTENANCE RECORD HERE, THIS PROP IN OUR COMMUNITY ANY LONGER, THERE ARE OTHER FIVE TRUCKS AND STATIONS TOO.
SO WE WANT THE MOST RELIABLE ONE FROM ONE OF THOSE STATIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO FIVE TRUCKS.
SO IF ANYTHING BREAK DOWN, YOU HAVE A SECOND TRUCK AND THAT STATION TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN GET THERE AND IT'S GOING TO PERFORM, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE, UH, ANY PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF OPERATION.
AND IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US A NEW ONE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT EVEN MORE SO, BUT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WE CANNOT ACCEPT THAT IT IS NOT RELIABLE.
AND THE CHIEF, AS THE TAPE INDICATED THAT FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING, AND HE INDICATED HERE TONIGHT THAT HE SENT THE LEAST EFFECTIVE PROP TO THE LEAST CALL COMMUNITY.
AND THAT HAPPENED TO BE A BLACK COMMUNITY.
AND I CANNOT ACCEPT THAT AS A BLACK PERSON IN THE CITY OF NEWBURN AND A RESIDENT OF THIS CITY AFTER 42 YEARS GOING AWAY BECAUSE OF A SYSTEM OF ANY QUALITY AND TO COME BACK AND HAVE SOMEONE SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE LEASE OF THE FIVE TRUCKS FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
TO ME, THAT'S A SLAP IN MY FACE.
THAT'S A SLAP IN MY FACE AND MY COMMUNITY.
AND AFTER HAVING SERVED AN OPEN OUT TO PRESERVE MY DEMOCRACY, I CAN'T ACCEPT.
YOU MUST GIVE US A FUNCTIONAL FIRE TRUCK.
SUPPOSE THAT 99 TRUCK THAT HE JUST MENTIONED WAS STATIONED AT FIRE STATION NUMBER THREE.
AND ON THE WAY THERE, THE ALTERNATOR WENT OUT AND IT JUST STOPPED.
WHAT WOULD YOU WANT THE CITY TO DO IN THAT CASE IN 1999? WELL, IF YOU ARE GOING TO PRESENT A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION, WHICH YOU ARE, BUT WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THAT, BUT IT DID FAIL THE OTHER DAY.
ONE PERSON ASKS ME A QUESTION AND I'M ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.
HE GAVE ME A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION, A NEW FIRE TRUCK.
THAT'S ON NEW, THAT'S A 2000 OR 19 99, 19 99.
I GOT A 1977 OR 1978 BY GIVE ME THE 1999.
AND IF IT FAILS, HEY, I THINK WE CAN REALLY DEAL WITH THAT.
I MEAN, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, MR. BELL, I NOTICED HERE IN YOUR LETTER, IT SAYS THE FIRE CHIEF ASKED TO STATED THE OLDEST FIRE TRUCK IN THIS CASE, FIRE TRUCK ENGINE 13 IS SENT TO THE LEASE CALL STAGE.
AND NUMBER THREE, I HEARD HIM SAY TO NIGHT THAT THE FIRE TRUCK 13 IS NOT THE OLDEST TRUCK.
DID YOU SAY THAT MR. ASTOR OR DID YOU NOT? THAT'S CORRECT.
MAYOR, UM, WAS A 1978, WHICH IS AT FIRE STATION GRIEVED AND ASSIGN THAT FIRE STATION FOR YEARS.
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UM, WARD, BUT FRANCE, WHICH IS AT THE HEADQUARTER STATION.UM, AND WOW, IF I MAY ADD ALSO POSSIBLY, UM, I WOULD SAY CLOSE TO A, MAYBE 85% OF THE DEPUTY FIELD COMMUNITY IS SERVICED OUT OF THE MAIN FIRE STATION AS WELL AS STATION TO STATION THREE ONLY SERVICES, A VERY SMALL AREA OF THE DUTCH.
SO IT WASN'T THE MAIN FIRE STATION, THE SERVICE, AND MOST DEFINITELY TWO TRUCKS.
WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S A FIRST FOOD, WHICH THE BRAND NEW FIRETRUCK.
YES, THERE IS ONE OF OUR NEW SUTTON AND THEN FIRE STATION TWO, WHICH IS LOCATED AT FORT TOTTEN, UM, HAS A NEWER QUALITY FIRINGS.
AND IT'S ALSO SERVICES THE DEAF COMMUNITY, ONLY A VERY SMALL PORTION OF IT.
DOESN'T FEEL COMMUNITY AS SERVICED THROUGH FIRE STATION THREE.
AND IT IS MOST OF THE TIME THAT SECOND, INSTEAD OF FIRST NEW FIRINGS AND THE FIRST FEW FIRINGS AND THAT COMMUNITY RUNS OUT, IT'S THERE TOO, WHICH IS LOCATED ON FORT TOTTEN, OUR HEADQUARTER STATION ON BRAS.
AND THAT'S ALL YOU'VE BEEN TO CHANGE THESE STATIONS, WHICH MOSTLY ALL OF THE, UH, AREA OVER THERE WILL BE SERVED OUT OF THE NEW STATE STATION.
UH, AND NUMBER OF ENOUGH MEMORY MR. MARIN.
BUT I THINK IT'S STILL A SMALL PORTION OF THAT AREA THAT WE CAN ACCESS OFF SIMMONS STREET EXTENSION.
WE'LL STILL HAVE STATION THREE TO RESPOND TO THAT AREA.
BUT I MEAN, THE IDEA OF PUTTING THE FIRE TRUCKS IN ORDER OF THE NUMBER OF RESPONSES IS NOT, NOT A NEW IDEA.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'VE GOT ONE, JUST PULL OUT AND GOING BACK AND FORTH IS STICK TO OUR BUSIEST STATIONS BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CALLS THEY HAVE.
AND THEN WE STEP THEM DOWN ON STATION THREE, STATION ONE IS OUR BUSINESS CHILD AREA STATION FOUR IS OUR SECOND BUSINESS STATION TWO AND THEN STATION THREE.
AND I WOULD EXPECT THAT THE POLICE CARS, PROBABLY THE ONES THAT YOU PUT OUT AND PUT ALL THE MILES ON WOULD BE THE NEWER ONES AND THE OLDER ONES YOU'D LEAVE ON YOUR SHORT RUNS OR RUNS IT.
I MEAN, IT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN TRY TO PROVIDE EQUAL.
I CAN UNDERSTAND, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY.
I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHICH FIRE TRUCK IS SERVING WHERE I LIVE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAINTENANCE RECORDS ARE ON.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT ISN'T BECAUSE I DON'T CARE ABOUT MY FAMILY OR MY HOUSE OR MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S BECAUSE I TRUST THESE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN CHARGE IN THE CITY OF NEW HAVEN TO DO IT IN THE RIGHT WAY WITH TOTAL DISREGARD OF, OF WHO THE PEOPLE ARE, WHETHER IT'S THE RICHEST PERSON IN THE POOREST.
AND IF THEY DON'T DO IT THAT WAY, THEY WON'T BE WORKING FOR THE CITY OF NEWARK.
AND I'LL BE THE GUY HOLLERING MUCH LOUDER.
I'VE GOT A LOUDER MOUTH AND THAT'S BEEN DOCUMENTED BY MOST.
YES, MR. MAYOR WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
UH, THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED IN MY COMMUNITY AND I KNOW, OKAY.
THAT IT WAS A BAD INCIDENT BECAUSE I WAS ON THE SCENE.
SO THEREFORE I'M TAKING IT TRULY PERSONAL BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED, NOT JUST THE FIVE TRUCK, THE CO THE CUSTOMER, DON'T FORGET THE COMPANY'S NAME, BUT THE ISSUE HERE IS THE FIVE TRUCK MOVE HERE AND STEPPING DOWN FIVE TRUCKS BECAUSE OF LONGEVITY, UH, AGE AND PUTTING IT IN A COMMUNITY.
AND ESPECIALLY IN THIS TYPE OF COMMUNITY THAT STILL DOES NOT JUSTIFY THAT IN MY MIND, IN MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHY SHOULD FIVE STATION TO BE THE FIRST CALL? IF YOU HAVE AN ENGINE AND FIVE STATIONS, THREE, WHICH IS PROPER DISPOSAL, I THINK CLOSER TO THE AREA THAT HAS BEEN SERVED.
UM, WE HAVE A VERY, UH, WE HAVE A WAY TO DETERMINE WHAT FIRE STATION RESPONDS TO WHICH AREA.
AND WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT FIRE STATION TWO, LOCATED ON FORT TOTTEN DRIVE, AS WELL AS THE HEADQUARTERS STATION CAN GET TO THE MAJORITY OF THE DEPTH OF FIELD COMMUNITY, A LOT FASTER THAN FIRE STATION THREE, EVER THOUGHT THAT I COULD GO INTO DETAIL AND TELL YOU THE REASON YOU HADN'T HAD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ONE, THE ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS WOULD BE THE TYPE OF STREETS.
IT WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILD COMMUNITY.
I TOLD HIM JUST A MINUTE AGO THAT, THAT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A LITTLE AREA OFF OF SEVENTH STREET EXTENSION, UH, MAJORITY OF THE AREA OF THEIR SERVICES FROM FIRE STATION, NUMBER TWO AND EIGHT QUARTERS FIRE STATION, AND THE REASON WHY IT'S ESSENTIALLY THREE SERVICES, UM, THE AREA OF, UH, DYLAN'S THREE 20 EXAMPLE IS BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS DOWN NATIONAL AVENUE AND UP SIMMONS STREET, WHERE THE, FOR
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US TO GO TO THE NATIONAL AVENUE AND UPS INDUSTRY AND BACK IN THE HAY FLAT AVENUE, THAT IT IS, AND TRY TO NEGOTIATE A SMALL STREET.SO THE DEPTH OF FIELD COMMUNITY WITH THE LARGER APPARATUS AND TRY TO NEGOTIATE SOME OF THOSE TIGHT TURNS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NUMBER OF JEWELERS WHO BUSES.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE EVER TRIED TO NEGOTIATE THAT TURN IN THE MAIN STREET ON THE GARDEN, BUT THAT'S A NICE ONE TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE WITH SOME LARGER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.
SO, I MEAN, WE SPEND HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS SITTING AROUND OTHER TOURNAMENTS AND SEMINARS AND WATCH THE FIRE TRUCK RESPOND, WHAT AREA AND WE'RE IN, WE'RE DOING IT NOW.
WE'RE REDISTRICTING THE AREA RIGHT NOW.
BUT MY POINT IS THAT WHEN YOU DO THIS, IT IS DONE UNDER THE GUIDELINES.
I MEAN, YOU JUST CAN'T PULL THEM OUT OF YOUR HAT.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE TO COME IN AND GIVE US ISO CERTIFICATION.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING THEM ALL, THIS IS CORRECT.
YOU HAVE TO SHOW ALL THAT DOCUMENT THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE A TRUCK.
IT'S THAT AS A REPRESENTATIVES TO ACTUALLY SIT AT THE FRONT DOOR OF THE FIRE STATION AND THEY DRIVE IN THESE DIFFERENT AREAS AND THEY MAP THE DISTANCES, THE ROAD MILES IS WHAT THEY WOULD, OR MAN, AND IN A FIRE TRUCK IS NOT SUPPOSED TO TRAVEL GREATER THAN ONE AND A HALF MILES.
AND OF COURSE YOU'RE ALLOWED SOME AREAS OVER THAT CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN TERRITORY, CERTAIN GUNS, BUT, UM, POINT ARE MY MAIN POINT WOULD BE THAT MOST OF THE DEAF COMMUNITY SERVICE OUT OF THE HEADQUARTERS STATION AND FIRE STATION, TO WHICH, UH, FIRE STATION ONES, YOU KNOW, THE MOST, THE NEWEST EQUIPMENT FIRE STATION FOR AS THE SECOND NEWS CLIP FROM A FIRE STATION THREE, UM, IT MAY MAKE THREE, 500 A MONTH AND A STATION FOUR AND STATION ONE, THEY MAKE 27 RUNS EACH MONTH.
UM, MOST OF OUR, THE MAJORITY OF OUR STRUCTURE FIRES WITH HER, UH, OVER IN THE DEPUTY FIELD COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A GIFT AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT OUR MOST RELIABLE AND MODERN EQUIPMENT IS THAT THEY'RE NOT, IF I JUST HEARD THAT CORRECTLY, THAT'S WHERE MOST OCCUR FIRES OCCUR.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE A DEFECTIVE TRUCK, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO JUST BROUGHT UP ANOTHER POINT, YOU HAVE TO ROSEWAY YOU HAVE TO, ROADWAY IS AN ISSUE HERE.
AND EVIDENCE HAS BEEN YOUR S OLD PERSON WHO DOES THIS MAPPING HAVE YOU DONE? THEY HAVE NOT COME TO TERMS WITH THAT ISSUE IN DUFFIELD TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE STREET, IN TERMS OF WHY THE FOUR TO FIVE TRUCKS I'LL GET AN, A SMALL FUNCTIONAL FIVE TRUCK THAT CAN NEGOTIATE THAT AREA.
I MEAN, I I'M HERE THE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT ARE REALLY CAUSING ME A LOT CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN MY COMMUNITY, AS FAR AS THIS SPOT, AS FAR AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS CONCERNED.
NOW, IF THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU DO AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME IS TO REASSIGN A RELIABLE FIRE TRUCK.
AND IF YOU HAVE TO USE THAT NUMBER TWO STATION USE NUMBER TWO STATION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BY STATION NUMBER THREE, HAVE A RELIABLE FIRE TRUCK GOING OUT ON RUNS AND THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.
AND IF YOU NEED IT FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES, YOU CAN USE IT.
BUT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCE, NOT AS, AS A COMMUNITY RESIDENT OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA, I DON'T FEEL THAT WE ARE BEING GIVEN, I THINK, BUT MR. CHIEF ASKED HER, SAY IT A FEW MINUTES AGO WHEN HE SAID THAT THEY DEFINITELY FEEL THE AREA HAD MORE FIREARMS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, IT DID SOUND CONFUSING THE WAY HE PRESENTED.
BUT I THINK HE WAS TALKING ABOUT A STATEMENT.
HE MADE A FEW STATEMENTS BACK, WHICH WAS AT THAT AREA, SERVED BY MORE FIRE STATION THREE.
AND THEREFORE ONE OF THE VERY RELIABLE TRUCKS COVERS MOST OF THAT AREA FROM NOW.
THEN, HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER ESTABLISHED THAT THIS FIRE TRUCK IS NOT RELIABLE TO START WITH.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE'VE TAKEN IT, UH, UH, UH, GIVEN THAT THEY, THEY ASPIRE TRUCK IS NOT RELIABLE.
AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO CONSTRUCT AN ARGUMENT OUT OF IT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM ESTABLISH THAT THIS TRUCK IS NOT RELIABLE YET TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT WELL, WELL, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE DAY OF THE FIVE, IT FAILED THAT ONE IN INSPECTION AND IT FAILED ON THE SEAT OF THE FIVE.
PENNY, IT FAILED THAT MORNING.
WHY DID HE FAIL?
AND I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE I STATED THAT YOU MAY HAVE, HE GOT TO THE SCENE.
YOU HAD A COMPUTER TO SAY THAT, HEY, WE COULD NOT PUMP WATER BECAUSE YOUR SOLAR
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NOD WAS MET, WAS FAILING.AND YOU JUST HAD AN INSPECTED.
IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR TAPE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOARD TAPE HERE, IT STATES THAT VERY REASON I BOUGHT THE TAPE TO, TO, TO CRITIQUE IT.
JUST FOR THAT PARTICULAR REASON, NOT LOOK AT YOUR COUNTRY, GO BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR TAPE.
IT, YOU SAID THE SUP THE SOLAR FAIL.
YOU DIDN'T GET WATER IN UNTIL ABOUT 1234 AND ON TO YOUR BOARD OVER THERE, BATTLED THERE.
YOU SAID, YOU SAID THAT THE MR. TAYLOR, ONE OF YOUR PERSON CERTIFIED THAT THE COMPUTER SAID IT STARTED FUNCTIONING AT THAT TIME TO RECEIVE WATER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'M REALLY CONFUSED BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERY WEDNESDAY MORNING WE PERFORM A TEST ON THE FIRE TRUCKS.
WE PERFORMED THAT PARTICULAR DAY.
WE PERFORMED A FLOOR TEST ON THAT VEHICLE.
THAT VEHICLE PASSED THAT FLOOR TEST.
I SUBMITTED THAT TEST REPORT WITH MY, UH, RECORDS.
THE FIRST TIME I WAS HERE EXPLAINING THAT THIS WAS A LOCKUP, UM, RELAY THAT FAILED.
I THINK THE PART WAS FAILED AT THE FIRE SCENE.
DIDN'T I, WE WOULD NOT, WELL, LET ME, LET ME JUST CUT THROUGH ALL OF IT.
THE POINT IS, YOU'RE SAYING HE FAILED THE TEST THAT MORNING.
HE SAYS IT DID NOT ON THE SEAT.
LIKE WHAT? I MEAN, SINCE IT WAS TESTED ANY, ANY WORK, WHAT SHOULD THEY HAVE DONE BEYOND THAT? REPLACED IT ANYWAY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, OH YES.
I THINK YOU SHOULD, BECAUSE IT IS A 22 YEAR OLD FIVE TRUCK IN A VERY HAZARDOUS COMMUNITY.
AND WE HAVE ONLY ONE YEAR OF DOCUMENTATION ON A 22 YEAR OLD FIRE STATION.
AND SOMEBODY WROTE TO US, BUT I MEAN, IF HE WANTS SOME MORE DOCUMENTS, NO, NO, THE DOCK, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, AS I SAID, AS I SAID IN HERE, I WAS SETTING.
I APPRECIATE, AND I KNOW THE DOCUMENTATION WE'LL COME IN AND WE'LL COME IN, UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS NEED BE TO SUBSTANTIATE, WHATEVER.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE A STATION THAT HAVE TWO, FIVE TRUCKS AND WE KNOW THAT ONE HAS MALFUNCTIONED PRETTY BADLY IN A COMMUNITY, THAT IS, IS ADVERSITY EFFECTIVE.
I THINK WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING IN TERMS OF TRYING TO RECTIFY THAT.
AND, AND WE, WE, WE CALLED THE SERVICE COMPANY THE NEXT MORNING.
THEY ARRIVED AND REPAIRED THE FIRE TRUCK.
WE CARRIED IT TO THE RIVER AND CERT AND PERFORMED AN ANNUAL CERTIFICATION ON THE TRUCK.
AND THE TRUCK HAS EVERY, SINCE THE PROBLEM WITH THE VEHICLE IS CORRECT.
IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT IT FOR A WEEK.
I SAID, SO YOU SAID, YOU AGREED.
WHY DID HE SAY IT? BUT YOU'RE AGREEING THAT SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.
AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WAS DONE.
IS THAT CORRECT? I AGREED THAT THE FIRETRUCK FAILED ON THE SCENE.
AND I AGREED THAT WE TOOK CARE OF IT.
WE CARRIED IT TO THE FIRE STATION.
WE TOOK THE FIRE TRUCK OUT OF SERVICE.
WE RELOCATED ANOTHER FIRETRUCK, THE FIRE STATION.
NUMBER THREE, WE CALL THE SERVICE COMPANY OUT OF ROCKY MOUNT.
HE WAS HIS SERVICE TECHNICIAN WAS IN MYRTLE BEACH, SOUTH CAROLINA.
HE LEFT MYRTLE BEACH, SOUTH CAROLINA THAT AFTERNOON DROVE TO NEWBURN THE NEXT MORNING.
AND WITHIN AN HOUR AND A HALF TIME, HE HAD THE FIRE TRUCK REPAIR.
W ONCE WE REPAIR A FIRE TRUCK, WE ALWAYS RUN A CERTIFICATION ON THE TRUCK TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS WORKING PROPERLY.
THAT DAY WE CARRIED THE FIRE TRUCK TO THE RIVER.
WE PERFORMED A CERTIFICATION TEST ON IT.
THE DOCUMENTS WERE, WERE, EVERYTHING WAS DOCUMENTED.
THE FIRE TRUCK WAS IN GOOD WORKING ORDER.
WE PUT IT BACK IN SERVICE THAT DAY.
AND IT'S BEEN IN SERVICE EVER SINCE.
THIS IS THE FIRST FAILURE WE'VE HAD ON THAT FIRE TRUCK AND, AND SEVERAL YEARS.
AND IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A SIMPLE CELLINOID SWITCH.
HASN'T RESPONDED TO ANY FIRE CALLS.
IT RESPONDS TO EVERY FIRE CALL THAT THEY HAVE OUT AT FIRE STATION.
NUMBER THREE, NO PROBLEMS, NO PROBLEMS AT ALL, SIR.
WELL, MR. BILL TO YOUR CREDIT, LET ME SAY THIS.
UH, MR. ASTRA, I JUST FOUND OUT HE WAS GOING TO BE PUTTING IN A REQUEST FOR AN ADDITIONAL FIVE TRUCK.
AND I THINK WITH YOUR COMPLAINT, YOUR COMPLAINT STRENGTHENS HIS, UH, ARGUMENT AS FAR AS US NEEDING ANOTHER FIVE TRUCKS.
WHAT I WILL SAY ALDERMAN RAINER IS ONCE, ONCE, IF, IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO PURCHASE ANOTHER FIRETRUCK IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE WILL TAKE THE OLDEST PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WE HAVE, WHICH IS THE 71 MODEL.
WE WILL TAKE IT OUT OF SERVICE.
WE WILL BRING THE, UM, THE, THE ENGINE 31, THE PIERS DOWN TOWN.
IT WILL START RUNNING SECOND, DUDE.
AND THEN WE'LL STEP UP THE, UH, ANOTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO FIRE STATION.
WELL, IF YOU GET THEM KNOW WHEN YOU CAN FIGHT MR. BELL, ALTHOUGH THE CIRCUMSTANCE, I WOULD ASSUME THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE WAY IT WILL GO IS TO ME.
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UH, PLEASE.AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND SPEAKING UP SO FORTH, PLEASE.
I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR BOARD AND OUR CITY IS NOT GOING TO LET PEOPLE COME OUT ON THE SHORT END OF THE STICK, SO TO SPEAK BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE, OR WHERE THEY LIVE OR ANY OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS THE TASK OF OIL.
WE PRETEND WE ARE NOT, THAT IS THE TICKETS.
AND WE WON'T BE A PARTY OF YEAH.
AND IN RECOGNITION OF WHAT YOU HAVE JUST AGREED UPON, I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEONE OR A SECRETARY TO I'M SURE IF SHE WAS TAKING NOTES TO SEND ME A COPY OF THAT.
SO I COULD CIRCULATE THAT TO MY COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY WILL UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE, WE'VE FOUGHT A GOOD FIGHT.
BUT YOU UNDERSTAND NOW A NEW TRUCK WAS COMING DOWN.
HE SAID, HE SAID THAT, THAT'S WHY, IF YOU PUT IT IN THAT MEMO, WE CANNOT, UH, YOU SAY IT WAS A NEW DROP OR WHATEVER.
NOW THERE'S ONE OTHER ISSUE, YOU KNOW, MR. MAYOR THAT I HAD ON MY AGENDA.
NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE BOARD, UH, DURING THE DECEMBER, DURING THE DECEMBER, UH, DECEMBER MONTH, WOULD YOU PASS THIS TO THE BOARD? UM, I WAS TRAVELING DOWN GLEN BURNIE.
OH, BEFORE I GIVE IT TO YOU, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE POLICE CHIEF TO SEE THIS AND MLK, THIS IS A ROCK HOLE, OR YOU CAN SEE THE HAT.
SO THIS IS, AND THIS BEAUTIFICATION GRANT THAT YOU GOT, THIS WAS TIME TOO, BECAUSE IT, IT, IT DEALS WITH, UH, GLEN BURNIE AND MOB WITH THE KING DRIVE IN TERMS OF A TRACTOR TRAILER DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS, HE DROPPED A LO OF FURNITURE RIGHT ON THAT CORNER, WHICH IS A HAZARDOUS CORNER, AS IT IS.
YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE AROUND THE CORNER.
AND THIS, THIS FURNITURE THAT HE WAS SELLING WAS RIGHT AT THE CURD LINE, RIGHT AT THE CURD BOX.
NOW THAT NOT ONLY IS IT A SAFETY HAZARD, IT IS ALSO DEFACING THE COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BEAUTIFICATION OF THAT AREA.
YOU PLANTED TREES, YOU GOT A 55, A $90,000 GRANT TO BUILD, TO PLANT THE TREES INSTEAD OF HER.
AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS HAPPENING.
NOW DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS, MOST OF THE GUYS WHO WAS SELLING FIREWORKS, THEY WERE IN MOE'S AREA OR RIGHT OFF, UH, SALMON AND, UH, KNEW THEY WERE IN THAT AREA WITH A TENT.
NOW, BEYOND THAT ALSO AT, UH, THE, UM, WHAT IS IT DERRICK, DERRICK WHAT'S THAT STREET THING RIGHT UP, RIGHT UP TO THAT POINT, YOU HAD SOME PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS SELLING GOODS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, OUT OF A TRUCK.
NOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE TERM FOR OUT OUR CITY.
IF WE, UH, GO ONTO BE THIS, UH, TOURIST AREA FOR EVERYONE, WE ARE HISTORIC, AS WE KNOW, AND TO HAVE, UH, INDIVIDUAL COMING IN NOW, UH, PLACE IT AND SELL IT ALL OVER THE PLACE.
NOW, OF COURSE, IN THE AREA THAT I CAME FROM NEW YORK, YOU WOULD HAVE A FLEA MARKET WHERE YOU SET UP A SECTION FOR THESE PRIVATE INDEPENDENT VENDORS TO SELL.
FROM THE OTHER POINT, THERE IS THAT THESE GUYS ARE NOT IN THE CITY OR THE COUNTY TAXES.
AND YOU CAN YOU IMAGINE A MERCHANT STYLE FURNITURE FAIR DOWN THERE, FEEL IT, THAT THESE GUYS ARE SELLING AND THEN THEY'LL NOT GET IT TAKEN AWAY FROM THEIR BUSINESS.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT IN TERMS OF CITY ORDINANCE, AS FAR AS THAT KIND OF SITUATION IS CONCERNED, IF I'M SURE WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS.
WELL, THAT AMERICA, CHIEF ADDRESSED THAT I THINK HE, AS I READ THE ORDINANCES, THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS SOMEBODY FROM SETTING UP A ROADSIDE KIND OF OPERATION IN THE PARTICULAR PICTURES HERE, WE HAVE A TRAFFIC HAZARD THAT WE COULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF.
IT COULD HAVE REQUIRED THEM TO MOVE BACK.
UM, I HAVE HAVE PRIVILEGED JUST TO PRIVILEGED LICENSES ALL, BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO RESTRICT THEM OTHER THAN THE REPLY FROM THAT.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THIS? IS THERE A LAW THAT EVERY TIME I ARRIVED DOWN MOREHEAD, I PASS BY DMT SIGNS AND DEPEND ON RECORD SAYING YOU CANNOT FILL THINGS FROM HIGHWAY RIGHT AWAY.
SO, BUT, BUT THE, THE ISSUE IS IF THE ISSUE IS JUST THE TRAFFIC HAZARD, THEN THERE'S DEFINITE WAYS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT BY JUST REQUIRING THEM TO MOVE IT BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY ISSUE.
IF THE ISSUE IS, CAN THEY VEND OFF THAT CORNER OFF OF DLT RIGHT
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AWAY? THE ANSWER IS YES.IF THEY GET A PRIVILEGED LICENSE AND THEN THEY CAN BENEFIT THE CURRENT LINE THAT'S IN THE RIGHT AWAY.
BUT ONCE THEY'RE OFF THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEN IT'S JUST ABOUT, YEAH.
THEY, THEY LOOK LIKE THE REAL LEGAL ON THAT THING RIGHT THERE.
UH, ANY OTHER CONCERNS WE ARE RIGHT HERE.
I LIVE AT 2304 GEORGIA AVENUE, WOODROW COMMUNITY SECTION, NO TRUTH.
I'M NOT HERE FOR PETITIONING, BUT I'M HERE BY THE REQUEST OF THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS HOUSE RAISING, UH, I TALKED TO THE FELLER.
DO YOU REMEMBER THE LAST MEETING WE HAD HERE ABOUT THE HOUSE? RIGHT.
AND YOU STATED YOURSELF AND HIS OWN CALIBRATION THAT YOU SAID THAT THE IS UNDERWATER SHOULD BE THE FIRST ARTIST TO BE FIXED.
AND THAT WHAT YOU TOLD ME, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I ASKED.
AND EVERYBODY IN HERE THAT NIGHT HEARD YOU AND EVERYBODY WAS ON THAT, ON THAT THING.
LISTEN, YOUR WEEK WEEK, I HEARD YOU.
BUT YEAH, I GOT IN TOUCH WITH THE FELLA IN GREENVILLE AS HEAD OF THIS, OF COURSE, HE CALLED ME, I GOT DOWN BEHIND IT AND HE CALLED ME, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THIS PROJECT.
AND I TOLD HIM, SEE, I'M RETIRED.
THEN I SAW HIM WHEN THIS, THE VAN, THEY WOULD GO TO THE HIGH PART OF THE STREETS AND KNEE.
AND HE TAKES A SURVEY ELEVATION FROM THESE STREET CORNERS, WHICH DOWN IN BETWEEN THE STREETS IS LOW.
YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT THEY TAKEN THE METAL BASED FROM DECK AND NOT TAKING THEM FROM THE HOUSE ITSELF FROM THE FULL LEVEL.
LIKE YOU STATED, WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS MIKE'S HERE.
AND I THINK I JUST ASKED HIM A FEW WEEKS AGO AND WE DISCUSSED THIS THING TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO.
YOU HAVE THE HOUSES, THE SEQUENCES, THEY WERE GOING TO BE RAISED, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE HOUSES.
WOULD YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THAT? WELL, MR. BLOOMBERG, IF YOU COULD.
AS WE STATED, HOUSES WERE BASED ON THOSE WITH THE LOWEST ELEVATIONS, WE'VE PUT THEM INTO SIX GROUPS, THE ONES THAT APPEAR TO HAVE THE GREATEST NEED AND IN THE MOST DANGEROUS, AS FAR AS FLOODING.
UM, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THAT FIRST GROUP OF 10 CONCERNING THE SURVEYS.
LET ME, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT JUST THE WAY YOU STATED THAT WHEN YOU SAID CONCERNING THE LOWEST ONES UP WHILE WE TALKING ABOUT STILL THE OCCUPIED HOUSES FIRST.
UM, THE OTHER, UH, ISSUE CONCERNING THE SURVEYS.
UH, THAT'S WHY WE HIRED A CERTIFIED, UH, LICENSED, SURVEYOR TO GO OUT THERE AND DO THE WORK.
I TRUST HE SEALED THE DOCUMENTS THAT HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.
UH, HE USED CONTROL POINTS THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
HE DID A COMPLETE GRID LOOP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
HE WAS OFF ONE INCH FOR THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AND THEN HE WENT AND SHOT THE FINISHED FOUR ELEVATIONS FOR EACH OF THE HOUSES.
AND WE HAVE ALL THIS CERTIFIED ON SEAL.
SO, UH, I HAVE, UH, CONFIDENCE IN THE SURVEYORS WORK.
WELL, I TELL YOU ONE THING YOU COULD PROBABLY DO TO CHECK IN, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SURVEY, AND IF I'M THINKING RIGHT, AS YOU CAN GET A, GET A YARDSTICK OR A RULER, I BET YOU, THEY SMELL A HORN A LOT ON HIS HOUSE.
IT'S ON THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
AND WE CAN FIND OUT WHO WAS THE DEALER.
ONE OF THESE HOMES HAD, UH, 18 INCHES IN IT AND THEY ALL DOWN IN, DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, HONESTLY, JUST POINT THAT OUT, THIS MAN IS PICKING UP.
I GOT IN TOUCH ON WHICH HE GOT IN TOUCH WITH ME FROM GREENVILLE.
HE TOLD ME, HE SAID, IT LOOKED LIKE WE NEED TO GO BACK AND GET SOME SHOTS OF HOT SPOTS IN THERE.
I SAID, BECAUSE THESE HOMES THAT SHOULD BE FIXED FIRST IS WAY DOWN THE LINE.
AND THESE THEY'RE THROWN UP ON TOP.
IT'S ONE THAT AIN'T HAD, NO ORDER IS ON TOP.
THIS IS UNFAIR TO THOSE THAT'S ALREADY.
MY SON'S SON-IN-LAW'S HOME HAD TO CARRY EVERYTHING.
HE HAD 18 INCHES, THE WATER IN HERE, AND THIS LAST STORM LAST YEAR,
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IT COMES IN TWO WEEKS IN HIS HOUSE.WELL, LET ME MAKE, LET ME ASK MIKE, IF YOU WOULD PASS ON THAT CONCERN TO THE SURVEYOR AND ASK HIM JUST AS A SANITY CHECK, IF YOU WILL, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE WATER LINE AND THE HOUSES VERSUS HOW HE HAS DETERMINED, WHICH ONE'S THE LOWEST.
SO WE'LL HAVE SOME SORT OF EMPIRICAL WAY OF SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? NOT JUST THE TRANSIT SAID IT WAS THE LOWEST, BUT THE WATER LAB SAYS THE THING IS TO LOOK TRUE BECAUSE WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT, I GUESS.
I MEAN, WE'VE ALL SAID WE WERE OCCUPIED AND IN THE MOST DANGER OUT FIRST, MIKE DID THE PEOPLE KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE FIRST AND WHO'S GOING TO BE SECOND.
WHO'S GOING TO BE THIRD OUT THERE.
WE PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF MADE AVAILABLE.
AND YOU JUST GONNA FOLLOW THAT LIST WITH THAT, CORRECT.
WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT LIST AND WE PRESENT THE LIST TO THE BOARD AND PUBLICLY FOLLOW THE LIST.
NOW WE CAN GO BACK TO THIRD OR FOURTH READJUST LISTING.
WOULD YOU JUST GET THE LIST AND GIVE IT TO MR. BLOOMBERG? SO HE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO BE FIRST AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE SECOND.
WELL, WHY WOULD THE GO AHEAD, CONTINUE ABOUT TALKING WITH DISPELLING GREENVILLE.
UH, HE SAID HE SENT HIM BACK OUT THERE.
HE SAID, I'M SENDING HIM BACK.
AND I WAS OUT THERE WHEN HE WENT BACK AND SURVEYED WHEN THE CITY EMPLOYEES WITH HIM AND HE WAS SURVEYING DOWN FROM MY CORNER.
AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU HOW IT IS FROM DANIEL STREET ON GEORGIA AVENUE, DANIEL STREET, BACK TO CLARK STREET TOWARDS NEWBURN.
IT'S LIKE THIS, I'M SITTING DOWN IN IT.
THERE'S A TRAILER SITTING ACROSS ME ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH THE WATER, NEVER GOT UP TO THAT TRAILER, NEW THAT TRAILER.
AND IT COMES IN FIVE INCHES COMING TO MY HOUSE IN THE LAST FARM IN FRANCE.
BUT HE'S HEADED UP THERE ON THE LIST.
AND THAT HAS ONE EXAMPLE WITHOUT GETTING INTO ALL THE HOUSES AND ALL THE LISTS THAT OUGHT TO BE PRETTY EASY TO JUST TAKE A LOOK AT, AT ONE EXAMPLE, HE'S TALKING ABOUT AND GIVE US THE REASON WHY HE'S BEHIND THE OTHER HOUSE.
THAT'LL EITHER PROVE OR DISPROVE TO HELP.
OUR PROBLEM IS THESE HOMES JUST BEING UNDERWATER SHOULD BE RAID BECAUSE MY SON IN LAW, WE HAD TO CARRY EVERYTHING AT OLD PLASTER AND EVERYTHING AND REMODEL THE WHOLE THING.
AND, AND WE WERE ABLE TO PRAY IN ABOUT THIS LAST MORNING.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE TELL EVERYBODY WE WANT DONE.
AND EVERYBODY'S SAYING IT'S BEING DONE.
IF YOU THINK IT'S MOT, ALL I'M SAYING IS IF, INSTEAD OF GOING INTO ALL 20 OR 30 OR WHATEVER, IT IS ONE EXAMPLE THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE OTHER FELLOW IS ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE CAN, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
THE ONE JUST NEEDED TO LOW PLATE TO TAKE THE ELEVATION.
AND THE HIGH SPOTS ON THE STREETS IS NOT GETTING THOSE DOWN IN THE LOWEST, BUT THEY NEVER COME ON MY PROPERTY AND SURVEYED MY HOUSE.
BUT I SAW HIM ACROSS THE ROAD WHEN HE'D DONE IT OVER THERE.
I DIDN'T EVEN TALK TO HIM ABOUT AFTER I WALKED DOWN.
AFTER YOU TELL HIM,
AND WELL, I'M NOT HERE FOR NO AUDIT.
GOD KNOWS WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WHAT BLAINE AND SITUATION NEEDS.
AND I'M HOPING THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING THIS THING OUT AND SATISFIED THOSE, THAT BEING UNDERWATER.
THEY, THE ONES THAT THE MAIN CONCERN, IT COMES THROUGH FIVE INCHES, FRAN COMING TO MY HOUSE, BUT I'M WILLING FOR THEM PEOPLE TO GET THEIR HOUSE RAISED WITHOUT MINE BEING REIKI.
YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? I'LL SACRIFICE MY PROPERTY TO THESE PEOPLE.
THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DESTROYED.
HAVEN'T BEEN STORED BY A WAR AND HAD TO REPLACE ALL THAT STUFF.
SO THAT'S MY SITUATION AND MY CONCERNS, AND TO CONSIDER ASSISTANCE, BECAUSE SIR, WE'RE GOING TO CHECK OUT AND ANOTHER THING START AGAIN.
OR ANOTHER PROJECT ABOUT MR. BELL SAID ABOUT THE FURNITURE BEING BURNED DOWN THERE.
NO TROPES THERE'S BEEN MANY ACCIDENTS THERE.
AND OLMSTED WAS STREET DOWN HERE TOO.
I FEEL THAT WE HAD STOP SIGNS THERE AND STOP SOUNDING ON BOTH INTERSECTION WOULD STOP.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT PLENTY OF TRAFFIC COMING FROM ALL DIRECTIONS.
WE'D COME IN FROM ALL OVER TOWN.
IF THEY MOVED TO TRAVEL, HIT THE BACK STREETS.
NOW MORE THAN EVER, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHICH WHERE YOUR PLACE IS.
WE NEED A STOP SIGN, A STOP LIGHT THERE.
WE NEED ONE AT THE CORNER, SNAIL, ONE STREET TO DEAD.
OTROS I'VE BEEN THERE FOR THIS.
WASN'T THAT WASN'T REALLY MY CONCERN.
DANNY, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE ASKED THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ABOUT GETTING A LIGHT AT THAT SIMMONS OAKS ROAD INTERSECTION? THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG BECAUSE IF YOU CAN CHECK, THE TRAFFIC IS PULLING THROUGH THAT'S ONE OF THE PLACES IT HAS TO BE THE STATE THAT DECIDES THAT, BUT
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I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT YET.I'M FIGHTING FOR THAT ONE BECAUSE THAT ONE SCARES ME TO DEATH.
BUT YET YOU GOT ONE RIGHT DOWN THERE ON AN ACTUAL COURT AREA.
AND TO IT'S A LITTLE SMALL IN THERE.
IT'S NOT LIKE AN OPEN STATE HOUSE BY THE HIGHWAY.
AND THEY'RE JUST ABOUT TO STAY ON.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, MAN.
IT'S NOT JUST LITTLE CITY STREET WHERE THEY LAND THE ONE THERE, BUT FOR A STOP SIGN, HOW THAT THE, WE SHOULD HAVE THE FACT THAT THE FACT THAT THOSE ARE STATE STREETS IS PART OF THE REASON THERE'S NOT A STOPLIGHT THERE.
AND NOW IS WE CAN'T AS THE CITY, CAN'T GO THERE AND PUT ONE UP WITHOUT THE STATE AND THE BOARD OF ALL THE MEN, MR. MAYOR, IF HE COULD SEE IF YOU CAN GET A SWORN UP
THEY'RE STILL STUDYING ON THAT LAST REQUEST WE MADE.
SO THERE'S ONE ACTIVE RIGHT NOW, SO, OKAY.
ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
AND, UH, I LIVE WITH DRUG AND I WORRIED ABOUT ELEVATIONS OR NOTHING LIKE THAT.
AND I GOT WATER IN MY HOUSE, TWO INCHES OF IT AND FRAN, AND I LIKE TO KNOW IF ANYBODY HERE CAN TELL ME WHEN ONE HOUSE WAS GOING TO BE RAISED OUT THERE.
WELL, MIKE, WHILST IT HASN'T SHAVEN OUT, I MEAN, ONE, JUST ONE.
THE FIRST THREE WENT OUT TO DADDY AND, UH, I HAVE THREE WEEKS TO GET YOUR BEDS BACK THEN.
AND THEN WITHIN AWARD THOUGH, THE ENGINEER HAS REVIEWED THE WRITE-UPS BUILDING INSPECTORS AND THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT TO IT.
UH, FOLLOWING THE LAST BOARD MEETING, I HAD A FRANK CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY AND THE HEAD OF THEIR PLANNING SECTION.
UH, THEY HAVE THREE SCHEDULED AND REPRIORITIZE THE ENGINEERS MORE IT'S ALL A PROJECT.
HE WAS DOWN TODAY PICKING UP ANOTHER THREE HOUSES ON INSPECTION.
UH, BUT THOSE ARE THE ON THE FIRST THREE DID GO OUT TODAY.
YOU SAY THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY ABOUT AUGUST.
WE'VE GOT TO WAIT ANOTHER 3, 6, 7, 8, 10 YEARS BEFORE WE GET OUR HOUSES.
IS THAT THE PROBLEM? IS THAT THE PLAN? I MEAN, YOU GET THREE AT A TIME.
THE, UH, THE ISRAEL, THEY GET THREE WEEKS TO GET THEIR BIDS BACK IN, IN YOUR WARD, THE BEDS, GET THE CONTRACTS.
AND THEN THE CONTRACTORS CAN START WITH FIRST THREE HOUSES AT THE SAME TIME THEY'RE WORKING ON THOSE.
THE ENGINEER'S CONTINUING EVERY WEEK, INSPECT ADDITIONAL COUNSELORS WHO WORK RIGHT UP.
AND IT'S A CONTINUING PROCESS.
WELL, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND MY FRUSTRATION.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THREE YEARS AND I'VE BEEN TOLD BY ALL THE ALMONDS AND EVERYBODY ELSE, ONE MEETING OR ANOTHER THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER, YOU KNOW, YOU GET TIRED OF HEARING IT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO SAY.
AND I DON'T BLAME YOU, BUT IT IS FRUSTRATING FOR US ON THIS END, AS IT IS FOR YOU ON THAT.
AND BELIEVE ME, BUT LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.
MIKE IS A, UH, THIS, THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH AS THE CONTRACTOR, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE THREE HOUSES, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO HIM SO FORTH, BUT COULD YOU PLEASE GET UP WHAT THEY DO IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND LARGE INDUSTRY AND HAVE LIKE A MILESTONE CHART? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, WITH MILESTONES IN IT? AND IT SAID LIKE RIGHT NOW TODAY, THE BEDS WENT OUT FOR THE THREE.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? RIGHT.
AND THEN, AND THEN ALONG THE YOU'D DONE ANOTHER LITTLE PARALLEL BAR GRAPH IS RUNNING ALONG AND SAYING, THESE INSPECTIONS ARE DONE.
YOU GOT THE NUMBERS OF THE HOUSES IN THERE.
WHEN THIS COMES BACK 24 HOURS OR WHATEVER, THE BODY WEIGHT TO BEDS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
AND THEN ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO, AND, AND YOU KNOW THIS, AND I HATE TO SAY BRAIN SURGERY BECAUSE THAT'S TOSSING OFF ON THE BRAIN SURGEON.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS, I MEAN, WE PUT A SCHEDULE UP, MAN, ANYBODY THAT'S CONCERNED CAN GO KIND OF SEE WHERE HIS HOUSE IS FIT.
WE KNOW WHAT THE ORDER OF THE HOUSES ARE.
AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF THE, IF THE, IF THE THING SLIDES OR MOVES FIVE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT? SURE DO.
I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU AND THE NEXT MEETING TO SHOW US YOUR CHART, IF YOU DON'T MIND, AND THEN ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO KNOW YOU CAN CALL IN AND GO DOWN AND LOOK ON THE WALL AND SEE WHERE HE HAS, BUSINESSES IS LINING UP AND IT'S UP AND SLOT.
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YOU CAN TELL HIM THERE, WE DIDN'T MEET THIS MILESTONE SUPPOSED TO BE NEXT WEDNESDAY.SO INSIDE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE FRUSTRATED.
YOU I'M SURE YOU'RE FRUSTRATED, BUT INSTEAD OF US ALL BEING FRUSTRATED, THE REST OF OUR LIFE, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING TO ALLEVIATE ANYBODY ELSE, COME FORWARD, PLEASE.
THE REPORT OR FROM SWEATS ON THE LEFT A LONG TIME AGO, HE'LL GO BACK AND SAY ANYTHING.
WE HAVE SHORT, CONCISE LITTLE DOES HE KNOW GOOD EVENING? MY NAME IS VALERIE DOWN IN FLORIDA, MY HUSBAND, CALVIN FLOYD.
WE ARE RESIDENTS AT 10, 10 K STREET HERE IN NEWBURGH.
WE, UH, WERE BESIEGED BY THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
AFTER CONSISTENTLY CONTACTING NORTH CAROLINA NATURAL GAS.
THERE WAS A LEAK IN ORDER TO MOVE INTO THE HOME.
I HAD BEEN PLACED INTO ARREST HOME.
WE HAD TO GO IN AND HAVE A KITCHEN FLOOR, BUT AGAIN, NEW BATHROOMS DOWNSTAIRS, WE CALLED AROUND FOR LICENSED PEOPLE.
THIS WAS ALSO DURING THE TIME OF THE FLOOD AND MOST OF THE LARGER CONTRACTORS THAT EVERYBODY KNEW NAMES LIKE DAN AND OLD, THEY TAKE ON UNDER LARGE CONTRACTS.
HOWEVER, THEY REFERRED ME TO A MR. HAWK, HEY MR. D UH, DALLAS CHERRY TO COME IN AND HAVE THIS WORK DONE.
MR. CHERRY CAME IN, HE'D BEEN MOVED THE KITCHEN FLOOR.
HE PUT A NEW FLOOR IN THE KITCHEN AND IN THE BATHROOM AREA ON THE FIRST FLOOR, ON THE SECOND FLOOR, HE HAD THE CEILING TO THE KITCHEN REDONE.
HE PUT A, ANOTHER BATHTUB, COMPLETE BATHROOM IN.
UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE STILL HAVING TROUBLE.
WE HAVE TWO HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING UNITS.
WE HAVE ELECTRIC UPSTAIRS AND WE HAVE A GAS DOWNSTAIRS SOMEHOW, AND DOING TEARING UP THAT FLOOR.
THEY WERE CAUSING SOME TYPE OF LEAK.
EVERY TIME THEY CAME OUT, THEY SAID THEY DETECTED NO LEAK.
IT'S LIKE, ONCE I GOT THAT SCENT, IT WAS ALWAYS THERE.
SO UNABLE TO USE THE DOWNSTAIRS HEATING UNIT AT ALL.
WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE HAD PEOPLE COMING IN MR. DOWNING OF DOWN AND HEATING IN THERE WAS TAKEN CARE OF BOTH UNITS FOR ME.
BUT IT WOULD WORK ONE TO TWO DAYS AND GO OUT.
THEN WE JUST WERE TOLD THAT IT WAS THE HEATING, I MEAN THE ELECTRICAL WIRING.
SO MR. HALL CAME OUT, HIS SONS DID WHATEVER THEY LEFT.
LATER THAT NIGHT, WE HAD NO HEAT, GAS OR ELECTRIC.
I HAD TWO BABIES IN THE HOUSE WITH ME.
WE HAD TO LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE WAS JUST NO BORN BECAUSE ALSO REMEMBER THE KITCHEN FLOOR IS GONE.
I'M PETRIFIED BECAUSE ANY, AND EVERYTHING CRAWL UP IN THERE.
SO WE WENT TO MY PARENTS' HOUSE.
WE WENT BACK TO WAS THE CHAIR.
HE CAN'T, HE SAID HE WAS GONNA DO THIS, DO THAT.
HE WOULD DO MOST OF THE WORK AT NIGHT.
THEY SAID HE WAS NOT LICENSED.
I WAS LED TO BELIEVE HE WAS LIKE THE HALL.
WHEN I ASKED HIM BEFORE HE BEGAN THE ELECTRICAL WORK, DID HE REQUIRE A PERMIT? HE SAID IT WAS UP TO ME.
HE SAYS, IT'S JUST A $20 PERMIT.
AND IT'S JUST MORE TROUBLE THAN IT'S WORTH BECAUSE ALL I'M GOING TO DO IS GIVE YOU AN OUTLET FOR YOUR DRYER AND YOUR STOVE, BECAUSE WE WERE CHANGING FROM THE GAS.
WELL, NONE OF THAT EVER WORKED.
SO I, UM, LIKE I SAID, MR. DOWN AND CALL THE INSPECTOR TO GET PERMISSION.
I WANTED THE GAS LINES OUT OF THE YARD BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY JUST WOULDN'T NORTH CAROLINA, NATURAL GAS JUST WOULD NOT COME OUT.
THE ONLY THING THEY EVER SUGGESTED WAS JUST TURN IT ALL OFF MR. DOWN AND WENT UNDER THE HOUSE.
HE WAS SHOCKED BY THE WIRING THAT MR. HOCK HAD THAT WE WENT AROUND AGAIN, WENT TO THE OUTSIDE HEATING UNIT.
SO THEN I RANG THIS SEMESTER BOW, AND THERE WAS A NOTE ON THE DOOR FROM HIM BECAUSE HE, MR. DOWNING HAD BROUGHT HIM IN
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FOR PERMISSION TO HAVE THOSE PIPES.THOSE, I GUESS, PIPES DUG UP THEN BECAUSE MR. WHEN WAS THERE, HE SAYS, WOULD YOU MIND IF I WALKED THROUGH AND MY SON TOLD HIM, NO, I WAS NOT.
IT GOES THROUGH BOXES, UPON BOXES, UPON BOXES, BUT EVERYTHING WE OWN WE'RE IN BOXES.
WHY? BECAUSE WE NEVER HAD ANY HEAT OUT SINCE YET WE WERE LIVING UPSTAIRS.
SO, YOU KNOW, PAPER PLATES, NONE OF MY DISHES HAD BEEN UNPACKED.
WE HAD FIVE YEARS WORTH OF CRYSTAL THAT I COLLECTED THE FIVE YEARS.
ALL OF MY HUSBAND'S REWARDS, PLAQUES, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING WAS IN THE BOX PAPERS THAT WE HAD BOUGHT AND DID NOT HAVE PER SE ORGANIZED.
WE GOT WENT EVERYWHERE IN NEWBURGH AND GOT THOSE STATIONARY BOXES WITH THE RED TOP.
AND WE PLACE THOSE ITEMS. I'M A MUSIC MAJOR.
I GRADUATED 1973 FROM BENNETT COLLEGE.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW MUCH PAPER MUSIC I HAD.
IT JUST SAID THEY CAME IN EMPTY, ALL MY DRAWERS AT NO CLOTHES.
MY HUSBAND'S BOXES WHERE WE MOVED.
AND ALL OF THIS IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A STATEMENT SAYING WE HAVE 90 DAYS TO BRING THE HOUSE UP TO CITY STANDARDS.
SO I SAID, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE WERE WALKING AROUND AND HE SAYS, FOR ONE, THIS MASON NIGHT SIDING IS IN GOOD CONDITION.
SO NOW WE GOT TO HAVE THE HOUSE BESIDES $17,000.
THAT'S BEEN THE CHEAPEST ESTIMATE.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET WHAT THEY DID NOT REMOVE THE FURNITURE, EXCUSE ME ABOUT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING ELSE DID, UH, YOU SAID THE CITY WENT IN AND EMPTY YOUR HOUSE.
EVERYTHING, NOT IN THE FURNITURE.
THEY TOOK THE DOORS AND ALL MY PERSONAL LIFE AND MY PAPERS AND THE CITY THAT, THE MEDICINE, MIKE, ARE YOU AWARE OF THE, UH, WHEN, WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN? THIS HAPPENED ABOUT THREE, FOUR WEEKS AGO.
IT WAS TO EVADE AN EMINENT THREAT.
UH, THERE WAS FOUND TO BE ODORS COMING FROM THE HOUSE, A LOT OF ANIMAL FECES, A FIRE HAZARD WITH CLUTTER AND PAPERS AND OTHER THINGS IN THE AREA.
THE OWNER WAS NOTIFIED THAT, UH, THE DETERMINATION WAS IT WASN'T AN EMINENT THREAT, UH, THAT WERE NOTIFIED ON FRIDAY THAT WE WOULD BE COMING IN ON MONDAY IF THEY HAD NOT TAKEN CARE OF THE 24 HOUR NOTICE.
UM, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THE PART OF THE OWNER TO ABATE THE SITUATION.
AND SO THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY, UH, THE CITY DIDN'T LIVE INTO A VAPE, UH, HEALTH AND OUR HANDSOME THAT, UH, THE, UH, ANIMAL MATERIAL AND THE COLOR AND TRASH AND SO FORTH IN THE HOUSE REPRESENTED HOW LONG HAD THE HUSBAND.
BUT, UH, I AM NOT CERTAIN, I BELIEVE, UM, UH, THAT, UH, THE BOYS MOVED OUT DURING THE WINTER.
WAS IT LIKE NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE? NO, SIR.
SEE, WE ACTUALLY NEVER MOVED IN BECAUSE MY AUNT'S PLACE INTO A NURSING HOME.
HER FURNISHINGS WERE THERE, WENT OUT FRONT WITH DELIBERATE FROM THE MILITARY.
SO THEY JUST STACKED IT IN, BUT THEY STACK THE AMP ON TOP OF HER THING.
BECAUSE MY AUNT HAD ALZHEIMER'S SUBSTANCE FLY.
WE HAD TO HAVE HER PLACE WHEN WE DID WE GO THROUGH THIS, THE CHICKEN, THEN THIS CLASS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE AFRAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY DANGEROUS.
SHE MIGHT I'M THINKING SHE WOULDN'T GO EAT THAT CHICKEN, BUT I COULD NOT PROVE THAT.
SO PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND I DECIDED TO PLAY.
SO WE PLACED THEM, TRIED TO GET IT OUT AT THE HOSPITAL, BUT THEY TOLD ME THE NEXT DAY THEY HAD TAKEN IT ON CHARITY.
YOU DID, DID YOU ADD TO THE, RECEIVE A LETTER FROM THE PLAN DEPARTMENT? THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THE MATTER? WELL, THEY KEPT GIVING US MEMOS, NOT OFFICIAL LETTERS, C OFFICIAL LETTER THAT I RECEIVED SAID WE HAD 90 DAYS IN WHICH TO MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO COMPLY.
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UH, TO TWO, YES.ONE IS BRING THE HOUSE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S MINIMUM HOUSING.
AND AT THAT WE HAVE FOUR BUILDING INSPECTOR GIVEN 90 DAYS IN WHICH TO BRING IN THE, SEVERAL OF THE ISSUE WAS BASED ON THE CONDITION FOR THE HOUSE THAT WAS CLEANING OUT, UH, AND PUBLIC SAFETY FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE.
THAT WAS ONE ISSUE 90 DAYS WAS TO MAKE THE REPAIRS TO THE HOUSE AND BRING IT BACK UP.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE STUFF THAT WAS TAKEN OUT? THIS LIGHT IS MY WEDDING.
TRYING THEM, EVERYTHING I OWN, INCLUDING, LIKE I SAID, MY CLOTHES, EVERYTHING IS SEPARATE FROM QUITE FRANKLY.
IT COULD HAVE HAD NOPE, JUST BASED UPON WHAT YOU SAID.
I THINK YOU WERE TRYING TO ALLEGE A LEGAL CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY.
THERE WAS NOTHING THAT THIS GOVERNING BODY, I THINK YOU NEED SOMEBODY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO BE AWARE THAT MEMOS CAN BE TAPED TO YOUR DOOR.
I WAS TOLD BY ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WE CAN SMELL THE ODOR DOWN THE STREET.
THIS PLACE IS NEAR THAT THEN GREEN, I THINK IT'S GREEN STREET AND EVERYBODY IN NEW BERN KNOWS WHAT GOES ON THERE.
AND EVERY FRIDAY MORNING, WE GO OUT THERE, BEER BOTTLES LOOK ABOUT EVERYTHING.
NOW THE CITY CAME CALLED ME THIS WEEK, SAYS, CAN WE CUT THE TREE DOWN? FINE.
KEPT SOME OF THE DROPS OFF THE PORCH.
BUT THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT AN OUTSIDE WINDOW THAT SOME KID THREW A ROCK.
SO SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? WE WERE CONSTANTLY, WE ARE MORE GETS TO THE HILL AND NOW I HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH THIS AND STILL HAVE NO ASSURANCE THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO PASS THIS HOUSE.
I MEAN THIS, WHEN DO WE GET THE SENSE OF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND YOUR MONEY, YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THIS HOUSE UP TO CODE AND NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I ASKED ABOUT THE LAND NEXT DOOR, BECAUSE I WAS TOLD FOR TWO YEARS, THE PEOPLE WERE NOT PAYING THE TAXES.
WELL NOW, OH, IT'S THE FLOOD ZONE.
SO ALL OF THIS STUFF IS GOING DOWN.
THAT PUTS MY HOUSE RIGHT BESIDE IT.
MY HOUSE WILL BE SOLD OR TAKEN BY THE CITY.
HOW ARE WE EVER, HAVE WE EVER SAT DOWN AND TALKED TO ANYONE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT? ONE-ON-ONE YES.
AND AT THAT TIME, MR. AVERY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEALING WITH K STREET, BUT TOWARDS CHAPMAN STREET, THEY SAID THE BLOCK GRANT IS NOT MINE.
AND THEN IN SPEAKING WITH THE NOD, MOST RECENTLY IT WAS SHAMED MS. DAVE, WE BATMAN AND BERNARD AND BERNARD SAYS.
AND HONESTLY, WHEN WE WALKED BACK, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG, BIG PORT REPORT, HE FELT THAT MY HOUSE WAS ABOVE FLOOD LEVEL.
IT APPEARS TO BE BECAUSE OF THE BIG COURT, BUT ON THE SIDE, THOSE BEANS ARE NOT ABOVE LIKE LEVEL.
AND THE CARPENTER, ACCORDING TO THE CITY INSPECTOR DID NOT PROPERLY PUT THE FLOOR IN.
HE DIDN'T PUT BEANS ALL THE WAY ACROSS.
HE PUT LIKE CROSSES IN THE CENTERS.
SO HE'S SAYING I'M A BRAND NEW FLOOR.
ARE YOU ASKING THIS BALL? WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE SOME BLOCK GRANT MONEY TO FIX THAT HOUSE HAPPEN.
AND THIS BOARD, IF THEY HAVE ANY ADVICE THAT WILL ASSIST ME OR AREAS THAT I CAN GO FOR ASSISTANCE, I'M ASKING THIS BOARD TO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE.
UH, FOR NOW I'LL BE GLAD TO MEET WITH YOU TO TALK ABOUT WAYS IN WHICH TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
WHEN YOU GO OUT TO HIRE, UM, SERVICES, SUCH AS THE ONLY RENOVATIONS AND REPAIRS, UM, ALSO, UH, TALK TO YOU ABOUT ANY PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE.
UH, ONE THING TO ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND IS IF YOU HIRE A LICENSED GENERAL CONTRACTOR, YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY TO GO AFTER.
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AND THE NEWSPAPER.THAT'S WHY UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. HALL IS NO LONGER LICENSED, BUT THAT JUST CERTAINLY WASN'T A NEWSPAPER THAT HE WAS NO LONGER LICENSED.
AND ANOTHER THING THAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT IT IS WHEN YOU COME IN AND YOU GIVE A PERSON TODAY, I'LL GIVE YOU A WEEK TOMORROW.
THERE WAS A NOTICE IN MY HOUSE THAT I FOUND AFTER GOING IN, ONCE YOU ALL WERE GONE, THAT SAID, WE GAVE YOU AN EXTRA DAY.
AND, UH, AGAIN, I'M STANDING OUT HERE NOT UNDERSTANDING THE HOUSE POSTS, NO IMMINENT THREAT.
YOU TOOK, I HAD A FULL CAT AND A LITTLE MUD CAT, THE MUD CAT CAT AWAY.
SHE'S STILL OVER THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY PUREBRED CAT WAS PUT ASLEEP BECAUSE YOU ALL TOLD ME CHECK WITH THE POLICE.
AND EVERY DAY I CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY SAID, WELL, LET US CHECK ON IT.
WHEN THEY FINALLY TOLD ME TO GO, BUT TO ANIMAL CONTROL BECAUSE THEY HAD TOO MANY BLACK AND WHITE, LONG HAIR CATCHES MY MIKE AND PUT TO SLEEP.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M OLD SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE TAKEN AWAY, SOMETHING FROM ME, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, YOU REALLY CAN'T REPLACE.
AND I JUST, I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FEEL THAT YOU SHOULD GO OUT OF YOUR WAY, SEE THAT NO HUMAN BEING IS TREATED THE WAY THAT I WAS TREATED IN HAWAII FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE ON THE BEACHES AND THEY W THEY RECEIVE BETTER TREATMENT THAN I DID IN THAT HOUSE.
EVEN EXPLAINING MY HUSBAND'S OUT OF TOWN, HE'S TEACHING AT HEADSTART.
I KEPT BEGGING JUST ABOUT WHERE I REALLY I'M SICK.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT APART FROM MY CITY, THIS IS MY MENTAL CONFUSION.
I SAYS, I NEED YOU TO WRITE THIS SO I CAN GIVE IT TO MY HUSBAND, BUT HE'S SACRIFICED SOME OF US TO SAY, OKAY, I'LL GET A WINDOW PUT IN.
WE GET THE BOYS OUT THERE TO DO THE GRASS.
BUT THE GRASS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE.
THE CITY CLEANS UP TO THIS LITTLE METAL VESTED AND THEY STOP.
AND THEN THEY'RE SAYING I SHOULD CLEAN THE REST.
THOSE TREES AREN'T ON MY SIDE.
BUT EVEN THAT GIVEN TIME I WOULD DO IT.
BUT AS MR. BALDWIN KNOWS, I HAD A ONE AND A TWO YEAR OLD AND I'M TRYING TO HOLD THEM AND WE'LL DO A WALK THROUGH WITH HIM.
AND EVERY TIME WE DID IT, HE'D SAY, I WANT YOU TO HAVE THIS MOVE BY SOMEONE.
AND I'M SAYING TO YOU OFF, WE DID OUR VERY BEST.
WE HAD A U HAUL TRUCK, AND WE WERE MOVING WHAT FURNITURE WE COULD.
I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO, TO MEET YOU AND BERNARD WITH, WITH THEM AND SEE IF YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING TO MAKE THE SITUATION BETTER.
IT'S MESSED UP BECAUSE WE PUT ONE STORAGE UNIT IN THE BACK AND WE PURCHASED ANOTHER.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, MOST OF MY FURNITURE IS NOT ONE IT'S BEEN RAINING AND IT WOULD NOT FIT INTO THE TWO STORAGE RIGHT NOW.
I, UM, IF MY CHILDREN WERE YOUNG ENOUGH, I GUESS I'D APPLY FOR CREDIT.
AND THE TERRORISTS WERE STAYING INTO ROOMS AT MY MOTHER'S HOUSE.
THEN ROMMEL, CRAVEN, TERRACE, TRUST ME, MAMA LIKE THAT.
OKAY, MIKE, YOU LEAVE IT WITH MIKE, MAN.
AND HE HAD MENTIONED THAT HE AND BERNARD WOULD SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS THE WHOLE SITUATION AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.
LAST YEAR, WHEN WE TALK, YOU HAD ALL, YOU TOLD ME, UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS STARTING ON THE OTHER END, BUT IN CASE THERE WERE EXTRA FUNDS.
AND I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING BACK.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T GET ANY OTHER REPLY, ANYTHING.
SO WHEN WE STARTED, OKAY,
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BOWL.I'D APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE YOU, YOU GUYS GREW UP WITH ME NOW.
I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY ANYMORE.
I'M KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH THAT SITUATION, CAUSE THAT'S NOT WHY I'M DOWN HERE, BUT I THINK IS A SLAM BEFORE GOD THAT SOMEBODY WOULD GO IN AND DO A FAMILY PLAN WITH WHAT WAS DONE TO THEM.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, MS. RANDALL, BUT I'M DOWN HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I'M DEPRESSED.
I'M STRESSED OUT AND IT'S ALL RECALLS OF WHERE I AM FORCED TO LIVE.
THE LAST TWO SONGS THAT CAME THROUGH THERE RIGHT AFTER THE LAST ONE SLOWER, I HAD TO BE HOSPITALIZED BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED? THE WATER CAME UP TO MY STOOP AND LOW AND BEHOLD, I LOST JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING IN MY STORAGE HOUSE.
WELL, THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT BECAUSE OF THAT CANAL NOW, I FEEL THAT IF THAT CANAL WAS NOT THERE, THIS IS A LOT OF WOULD NOT HAVE BACKED UP INTO MY YARD THE WAY THAT IT DID, BUT IT DID.
AND I FEEL THAT AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ASKING THE CITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT SITUATION THERE, NOTHING IS BEING DONE.
THE TREES ON THE AUTO BAY, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, THE ROOTS THE OTHER DAY, WHEN THE WIND CAME, THOSE TREES WERE JUST LEANING TOWARD MY YARD.
NOT THE CITY MANAGER, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
I GOT NO SATISFACTION FROM WHAT THEY WERE SAYING, BECAUSE THEY CLAIMED THAT THEY DON'T HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER THOSE TREES ALONG THAT DITCH BANK.
AND THIS AMOUNT HAS TOLD ME THAT IF ONE OF THEM FALL, IF THEY FALL, THEY WILL COME AND TAKE THEM OUT OF A DITCH.
THEY CAN'T TAKE THEM OUT OF A DITCH.
CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA FALL INTO DITCH.
THEY'RE GONNA FALL IN NINE YARDS OVER MY FENCE AND TEAR IT DOWN.
THEY DON'T PAY FOR NO SECTION WOOD FENCES.
I GOT FLOOD INSURANCE, BUT THEY DON'T PAY.
UNLESS YOU MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS CASE, IF ANY DAMAGE HAPPENED ON THAT SIDE, THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS NOT GONNA PAY FOR IT.
THEY ONLY PAY FOR HURRICANE FENCES WHEN THEY ARE BROKEN DOWN.
NOW THOSE TREES ARE JUST THERE AND THEY WAVE ON ACCIDENT TO HAPPEN AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO GET THE BRUNT OF IT.
AND I'M DOWN HERE TONIGHT TO FIND OUT WHAT CAN BE DUMB ABOUT MOVING ALL OF THAT SLUDGE AND DEBRIS FROM ALONG MY BULKHEAD.
THAT'S BEEN THE ISSUE FOR OVER THREE YEARS AND IT'S STILL PILING UP THERE AND IT SMELLS TO HIGH HEAVEN OUT HERE.
YOU CA I CANNOT COME OUT OF MY DOOR AND GET IN MY CAR WITHOUT SMELLING OLDEST FROM THAT CANAL AND LET ALONE IN THE SUMMERTIME.
THE MOSQUITOES ARE SO BAD OUT THERE.
I HAVE TO BRING A SPRAY, CAN OUT, COME OUT OF MY HOUSE, GET IN MY CAR AND SPRAY ALL AROUND ME UNTIL I GET IN THERE.
AND IT'S A BAD SITUATION OVER THERE.
IT'S TRASH AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN THERE.
I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT MAINTAINS IT BECAUSE NOW ACCORDING TO MR. METALS, THE CITY'S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT GOES ALONG THAT CAMILLE.
NOW I WANT TO KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT CAN NAIL WHEN A STORM COMES OR I'VE BEEN RAINED, THE WIND BLOKE, JACK SMITH CREEK OVERFLOWS ON WATER FROM THE TRENT AND NEUSE RIVERS, OAK ROAD FLOWS OVER.
IT FLOWS RIGHT INTO THAT CANAL COMING IN FROM JACK SMITH CREEK.
SO NOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I SPOKE TO ONE OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND I WAS TOLD BY HIM THAT THE CITY WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
WELL, THAT WAS BEFORE MR. SAMPSON BECAME A COMMISSIONER.
AND I LIKED TO KNOW IF HE GOT ANY INPUT BECAUSE WHEN TWO RIVERS COME TOGETHER AND OVERFLOW NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMEBODY ELSE
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RESPONSIBLE TO MS. MS. RANDOLPH IS CANAL CLOGGED UP WITH A WATER FLOW THROUGH THERE.NO, THE WATER DOESN'T FLOW THROUGH THE WAY I AM.
AND IT FLOWS DOWN THERE IN THE SAND.
OBLIGATION IS TO KEEP THE WATER FLOWING.
SO IF MISS MR. METALS, HAVE YOU BEEN OUT THERE RECENTLY? HAVE YOU BEEN WATERFALL? NO.
THE WATER NOT FLOWING WATER, STANDING OUT THERE NOW IT'S WATER AND ALL THAT DEBRIS AND STUFF IS IN THAT CAMILLE.
AND I'LL JUST PUSH ALL OF YOU WOULD GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
I DON'T THINK NONE OF YOU UP THERE WOULD WANT TO LIVE AROUND IT.
WELL, YOU SAID THAT THREE, THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO.
THAT HAS A NICE LITTLE TILE AWAY FROM THAT CANAL.
I GET THE BRUNT OF EVERYTHING THAT COMES DOWN.
BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IF THAT CAN NOW HAVE NOT BEEN THERE, YOU WOULD HAVE MORE FLOODING THERE.
WOULD'VE BEEN NOWHERE FOR THE WATER TO GO REALLY SEE A DRAIN IN THE, IN THE CANAL RIGHT THEN.
THERE, THERE ARE PLENTY OF HOUSES ALONG THERE.
YOU SEE I'M DOWN AT A LOW END AND ALL THE WATER COME DOWN THERE.
WELL, LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE MALE.
THE MALES HAD SO MUCH FLOODING.
I CALLED HIM AND HE'S STANDING OVER HIS DAUGHTER, HOUSE RIVER.
THE MAN, THE MAN DOESN'T HAVE THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE.
THE MAN ON THE HEAD IS FLOODING.
AND GOD SENT HIM STONE FOOD HERE.
AND HE'S GOING TO SEND SOMETHING LOCAL HERE TO LEAVE ME.
AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE I SHOULD BE THERE WHEN THE NEXT ONE COME FROM.
WHAT I EXPERIENCED FROM THE LAST TWO STORMS, I DON'T FEEL, I FEEL LIKE THE CITY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
NOW YOU'RE ELEVATING PEOPLE AND YOU'RE MOVING PEOPLE OUT.
SO WHY NOT COME UP THERE AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT ME? CAUSE I'M DOWN THERE.
IF, IF, IF A STORM COMES AGAIN, LIKE WE HAD WITH THE LAST ONE AND THE YARD WAS FLOODED, LIKE THAT, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? I LOST EVERYTHING.
WELL, YOU'VE USED SOME GRANT MONEY TO COME OUT THERE AND PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE.
WE DON'T REALLY, IF MY UNDERSTANDABLE PROCESS IS CORRECT, WE DON'T EVEN DECIDE WHAT AREAS OF FLOOD AREAS DO.
NO, BUT I KNOW BECAUSE THE FLOOD, THAT'S THE FLOOD AREA RIGHT THERE THAT SAYS, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT YOU TO SAY MY HOUSE.
I WANT YOU TO COME OUT THERE AND MOVE THOSE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO FALL ON MY PROPERTY.
WHEN ON NEXT THUMB COMES AND CLEAN UP THAT SLUDGE AND MESS A LONG BULKHEAD AND LET GOD TAKE HIS COURSE.
LET'S SEE THE STATE DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY OF BUDDING.
THE CANAL, THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PROPERTY, THE TREES ARE OWNED BY WHOEVER OWNS THE LAND AND THE TREE IS ON THE CITY.
BUT I THINK, I THINK THOSE TREES, ALL THE SIDES AND WE DON'T ONLY CAN NOW, WELL THEN WHY ARE YOU PUTTING BIKES ON THE GROUND FOR WATER TO RUN OFF? YOU'VE GOT FIVE.
AND THE CANAL HAS BECOME THE MAIN ARTERY FOR THE WATER TO FLOW INTO FROM ALL OVER THE CITY OF NEWARK.
ALL OF THAT IN THE AREA WHERE I LIVE, I CAN NAME SIX OR SEVEN PLACES THAT SINCE I DID OVER THAT 18 YEARS AND INVESTED IN THAT PROPERTY, THAT YOU HAVE PUT PIPES ON THE LAWN, ON THE GROUND AND DRAIN OFF INTO THAT CANAL.
AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO DRAIN OFF INTO THE JACKSONVILLE CREEK, BUT IT'S SO CLOGGED UP DOWN THERE.
THEY DON'T WATER THEM DRAIN OFF, KNOCK.
AND SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO, YOU SMITH $50,000 THAT YOU GOT FROM THE STATE, A GRANT TO PUT A PIPE DOWN THERE ON BOCA STREET.
DANNY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THIS OR, OH, HE KNOWS ABOUT IT.
HE KNOWS IT'S TRUE AND HAD A NERVE TO STAND IN MY YARD AND TELL ME ABOUT, THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE TREES ON THE, ON THE DITCH BANK.
AND THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS ALREADY GOT HIS ON HIS LAWN, GOT BLOCKS ALONG HIS LINE ON HIS PROPERTY LINE AND THE TREES ON THIS SIDE OF THE, I THINK THOSE TREES ARE KEEPING THE BIKES FROM FALLING IN THOUGH.
THE BANKS FROM FALLING IN THE CANAL AND COLLAPSING.
YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE MAY BE KEEPING THE PANELL
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FROM, COME FROM FALLING IN, BUT HOW TALL IS THIS BUILDING HERE? AND HE'D BEEN OUT THERE AND SEEN HOW TALL IS THIS BILL COME UP AND TAKE A LOOK.I'M NOT STANDING UP HERE TALKING JUST TO BE TALKING.
ALL THEY NEED IS A GOOD WIND AND THEY'RE COMING UP COMING THIS WAY BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING HOLDING THEM BACK.
UH, I WOULD BASICALLY SAY AT CERTAIN TIMES WE CALL LAST THE WEEK BEFORE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT I TOLD YOU A LOT.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS JUST FUNCTIONING QUITE WELL.
THERE WAS A BAD MOVE OUT THERE WITH ME.
AND THEN I WAS OUT THERE WITH RICHARD MARSTON.
YOU COME OVER TO MY YARD ON INVITED ANYWAY, THERE THERE'S NO WATER STANDING A MAP, ANYTHING.
OR, YOU KNOW, IF IT RAINS TODAY, THERE'LL BE SOME WATER TOMORROW.
UH, WE DIDN'T KEEP THE BEACH MAINTAINED AS FAR AS THE TREES ALONG THE BEACH.
UH, YES, THERE ARE SOME THREES, UH, SEVERAL, A COUPLE THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK THERE WERE ABOUT EIGHT INCHES AROUND, WAS NOT MUCH TO THE TREE TO BEGIN WITH.
IF YOU SAY I WAS DEFINITELY LOOKING AT IT, IT DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE NO DANGER OF FALLING ON HER HOUSE.
UH, IT DOES SERVE TO STABILIZE THE BANK.
I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TAKING IT DOWN.
IF THE LORD COMES ALONG AND TAKES IT DOWN.
AS I TOLD HER, I CAN ASSURE HER, WE WOULD GET IT OUT AS WE DO ALL AFTER THE DAMAGE IS DONE.
WHY WAIT FOR CATASTROPHE? I'M STILL TALKING TO MY THING RIGHT NOW.
UH, AS FAR AS, AS SOME POSSIBILITIES, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS AND IT HAS BEEN IN WORK BUSY AS LONG AS THE, UM, THE RAISING OF THE HOUSES AND WOODROW.
AND, UH, BUT THERE IS ALSO SOME, SOME GRANT MONIES THAT WILL ADDRESS SOME DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA.
THE LIFT STATION, BECAUSE RANDOLPH, UH, SUPPOSED TO BATTLE THE PUMP STATION HAS RANDELL SPOKE ABOUT, UH, IS IN THE PROCESS.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT, UH, THAT, THAT PUMP STATION THAT THE, UH, THEREBY THE JUDGMENTS CREEK ON THE RAILROAD TRACK IS SLATED TO BE UPGRADED WITH SOME FEMA MONEY.
AND, AND, UH, IT'S GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PUT, UH, THINGS TO 3000 GALLON PUMPS, 2000 GALLON FERMENT PUMPS IN THAT, WHICH IS GOING TO MOVE WATER A WHOLE LOT QUICKER.
UH, IT, IT IS THE, UH, I WON'T TELL ANYONE.
IT'S NOT, WE'VE GOT MILES AND MILES OF THEM AROUND THE CITY.
MY GUYS GO THROUGH IT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AT TIMES.
IT DOES SMELL, UH, USE NOT SMELL BECAUSE IT STAYED FOR A WALK.
NOW THE WATER GETS OUT SUNSHINES ON THE MUD AND THE MUD SALVAGE IT'S OUT OF THE MUD.
EVERY TIME I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SMELL IT, THEN THAT'S ANYWHERE I GUARANTEE THE MAYOR CAN SMELL THAT IN HIS BACKYARD, IN THE MARSH DRIVES.
BUT, UH, I UNDERSTAND SOME OF HIS RANDOLPH'S CONCERN AND WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS SINCE 1984, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE CITY, IT IS TOO LONG FOR THESE COMPENSATIONS, BUT WE WERE PROVIDING HER SERVICE AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE, BUT I'D BE GLAD TO RIDE ANY OF THAT AND DO BACK AND DO IT BEFORE YOU WENT THROUGH THAT.
YOU WON'T GO THROUGH THAT AND DO THAT.
AND DON'T AND TELLING ME THAT YOU MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT, I HAVEN'T SEEN Y'ALL IN THREE YEARS AND THAT'S, I TAKE A PEN.
I DO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE RECORDS OF NIKE.
AND TO SHOW HIM THAT SO THEY CAN COME OUT.
HE WOULD CROSS THE STREET WHERE THEY SAID WE DON'T WANT TO GO.
THE MAYOR RAN OFF ON BOTH ON KONG STREET.
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AND SO THIS IS WHERE LIMIT GLEN MADE THAT TRADED RICHARD MORRIS CUT DOWN BEFORE.AND NOW SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TREE.
IS THAT OUR TREE? IS THAT SOMETHING WE SO WE CAN'T REALLY BE CUTTING OTHER PEOPLE'S TREES NOW.
OH, DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING, MAN? WE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE ON HERE A MINUTE, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A WHOLE LIST OF ONE THING I HAVE SEEN, UH, MS. RAN OFFICER RECENTLY, I SAW ON TELEVISION REPORT THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WERE LOOKING INTO SOME DITCHES AND GRANT THEM THAT THEY MIGHT DO SOME WORK OVER THERE.
AND I SUGGEST THAT THEY DO WORK OVER AND GRANT THEM THAT YOU NEED TO TALK TO THEM.
CAUSE THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO DO SOME WORK ON YOURS.
MA'AM CAUSE YOU'RE PAYING THE SAME TAXES.
SO I THINK HE, I THINK YOU SHOULD, IF THEY DO IT FOR GRANT THEM, YOU SHOULD GO TO THEM.
MA'AM THIS IS WHY I'M DOWN HERE AND I'M NOT DOWN HERE.
I WANT SOMETHING DONE ABOUT IT.
I WANT THAT SLUDGE MOVED AWAY FROM MY BOOK AND I WANT THOSE TWO TREES THAT ARE LEANING TO WALK MY HOUSE.
CUT BACK BEFORE THE NEXT SONG, COME FLUSH IT OUT.
AND I CAME BACK UP ON THE TREE ISSUE BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED A CALL FROM THE CITY TELLING ME WHAT I MIND.
IF TWO TREES THAT WERE IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE WERE REMOVED.
UH, ONE OF THE TREES THAT, WHERE I KNEW I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE IT WAS GROWING INTO THE WIRES.
THE OTHER ONE WAS ONE OF THOSE OLD CHRISTMAS TREES.
AND SO I ASKED HER, I SAYS, PLEASE, YES, TAKE THAT BIG TREE DOWN BECAUSE ONE, NOW I CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON MY PORCH.
I SAID, BUT IF YOU WOULD LEAVE THIS SMALL ONE, WELL, THEY DIDN'T, BUT I'M NOT GONNA CRY.
HOWEVER, I AM, UH, IN A WAR, LIKE I HAD AN ALARM SYSTEM AND THE CITY, WHEN THEY BROKE IN, THEY CUT THE WIRE AND THEY BROKE THE ALARM.
AND THEY'RE SAYING, THEY'RE LOOKING TO ME AND I DIDN'T DO IT.
A ONE LOCK COMPANY CAME OUT AND BROKE CAMP AND AWAN PUT A NEW KEY.
I MEAN, A NEW LOCK ON AND GAVE ME THE KEYS.
SOMEBODY'S GOT TO PAY FOR THIS IN ORDER FOR US TO PUT ANOTHER ALARM HERE.
AND OBVIOUSLY I HAVE TO HAVE, I'VE HAD CRYSTAL CHANDELIER'S STOLEN.
I MEAN, YOU JUST WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE THINGS THAT JUST WALK OUT OF THE HOUSE, FREEZERS DOING LARGE ITEMS FLOOR, MY LITTLE TVS, THEY'VE JUST WALKED OUT DAYTIME SYSTEM.
THIS HOUSE HAD AN ALARM SYSTEM ON IT AND IT WAS ENERGIZED.
IT WASN'T UNTIL THEY BROKE INTO IT, THEY CUT IT EVIDENT WITH THE NORTHWEST TOO MUCH FOR THEM.
AND THEN I GUESS, BECAUSE THE POLICE RESPONDED, THEY CUT THE WIRE.
WELL, BUT THEY SAID THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE TO PAY FOR THAT.
AND UM, UH, MR. GEORGE AND MIKE, THANKS AGAIN.
WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT ON OUR BOARD AT THIS POINT, ANYBODY ELSE? AND THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I BELIEVE EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT.
OH, I'M A MESS HERE AS A CITIZEN GIANT SOUND GOING 10 36 NORTH STREET.
AND UH, IN RESPONSE TO WHAT MS. RANDOLPH WAS SAYING, THAT DITCH IS ALSO, I PASS THROUGH THERE QUITE OFTEN.
I WAS JUST HOPING THAT THE COUNTY AND THE CITY WOULD COME, COULD COME TOGETHER AND SEE, CAN WE GET ANY KIND OF MONEY TO PUT SOME PUT PIPES IN THAT DISTRICT DO SOMETHING THAT DITCH, BECAUSE IT REALLY ALSO, AND IT DOES SMELL.
AND IT'S LIKE SHE SAY ROOTS AND TREES.
IT WAS ABOUT TO FALL IN THERE.
IT REALLY NEEDS SOMETHING DONE TO IT.
AND I BELIEVE WORKING TOGETHER, WE COULD DO GREAT THINGS AND I HOPE THAT WE COULD
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GET LV THERE SAID, IMAGINE THE COUNTY MANAGER, LET THEM BORROW, TRYING TO GO WITH SOMEBODY HOCKEY.HOW CAN WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT DITCH AND OTHER BAD DITCHES THAT'S IN COMMUNITY.
THIS WOULD BE A GOOD AROUND WORKING TOGETHER RELATIONSHIP TO GET SOMETHING DONE IN THE TYLER NEWBURN THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND NO DOUBTS ABOUT THAT KNEE, THAT DITCH NEEDS SOMETHING DONE TO IT.
I KNOW ON ONE OCCASION WE HAD THE SAME DITCH UP AT OUR, UH, STANDARD WHITE RECREATION CENTER.
THEY'RE PUTTING THESE BIG PIPES IN THAT DISTRICT, CALL THEM UP.
SO THAT, THAT MADE THAT PLACE LOOK A LOT BETTER BECAUSE THE WATER WAS TURNING THAT'S THE GREEN AND IT TURNS GREEN.
AND THAT DISTRICT ALSO, IF IT STAYS THERE LONG ENOUGH, SO IT DEFINITELY NEEDS SOMETHING TO DONE.
UH, NO ONE PROSTITUTE AND THERE'S NOBODY LEFT OUT OF THE STATION.
CITIZENS MOVE CLOSE POLICE OFFICERS THAT HASN'T SAID ANYTHING AND EDELMAN FROM CHANNEL 10.
LET ME PULL UP ITEM NUMBER 11, NUMBER LEFT AND NOT MOVED TO A DOCTOR REMAINING HEIGHT OF AND FORCEFUL.
MAY I HAVE A QUESTION ON ITEM SIX? UH, I UNDERSTAND IT, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING WAS HELD OFF BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE.
WELL, THE GENTLEMAN INSTRUCTED TO SEE ME.
OH, WAS HE SUPPOSED TO CALL ME? YES, I THINK SO.
I MEAN, THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO REFER EVERYTHING TO USE.
SO HE WAS HERE WHEN THEY SAID THAT HE KNEW THIS MEETING.
CAUSE THAT I'D NEVER HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE GYM.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY.
UM, I D I DO REMEMBER, UH, SOME YEARS AGO, MYSELF AND TWO OTHER GENTLEMEN, ALONG WITH JANET CLARK WENT INTO HOUSE.
CAUSE THERE WAS SOME IDEA THAT THE GROUP I WAS GOING TO MOVE ON, THEY WERE GOING TO BUY THE HOUSE.
BUT WHEN THEY SAW THE CONDITION OF THE HOUSE, THEY DECIDED NOT TO BUY IT.
AND THAT WAS THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO.
UH, AND I THINK WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE HAD TO PUT ABOUT 25, 30,000 MILES ON THE HOUSE THEN I THINK MIGHT'VE BEEN, CAN YOU REMEMBER THAT MIKE? AND I DON'T MEAN IT AS A CITY, BUT, UH, THAT, YEAH, BECAUSE AT THE TIME WE SAW IT, LIKE I SAID, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, WE WOULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE HAD TO GONE IN AND PUT A ROOF ON IT, PUT A NEW FLOORING.
UH, I GUESS IT'S JUST DETERIORATED SINCE THAT TIME.
IT HAS BEEN A BIG HIT FOR, UH, WELL, I ASKED THE AMOUNT TO BE PUT ON TO THIS DAY AND TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN KNEW IT WAS GOING TO, I KNOW HE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE PRESENTED AT THIS MEETING.
AND HE SAID, OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
BUT WHAT'D YOU DO WHEN YOU EXCLUDED ROUTE NUMBER 11? SO EVERYTHING WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE EVERYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR ITEM 11.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.
MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
WITH THE ONLY REASON I ASK THAT THIS MATTER BE POOLED IS THAT I'M NOT, I'M NOT AGAINST IT.
IT'S JUST THAT, UH, WE STILL HAVE A, UH, AN INTEREST IN THAT AIRPORT.
AND JUST FOR PRESERVATION PURPOSES, I LIKE THE A CITY ATTORNEY TO, UH, TO GET SOME ASSURANCE FROM THE COUNTY THAT THE PROPERTY THAT WILL SWAPPING FOR THE BOAT TO THE CITY AND HAVE THE SAME CONDITIONS THAT THE ENTIRE AIRPORT PROPERTY HAS BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THIS MAY BE AN ISSUE LATER ON DOWN THE LINE.
IT'S ONLY ABOUT 2.5, EIGHT ACRES, BUT STILL, UM, I JUST WANT TO PRESERVE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE RELEASING OUR REVERSE IT INTEREST TO THE COUNTY.
THE COUNTY IS GOING TO SWAP THE LAND WITH, UH, EMPHASIS ON ENTERPRISE.
AND, UH, WHEN WE GET THE PROPERTY FROM THEM, I'D LIKE THAT PROPERTY TO BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME CONDITIONS, UH, THAT THE REST OF THE AIRPORT, PROPER SUBJECT TO MAINLY THAT WE HAVE, UH, ONE HALF INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY THAT WAS SWAPPING FOR.
AND IF THAT PROPERTY IS EVER CEASED
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TO BE USED AS AN AIRPORT, IT REVERSE BACK TO THE CITY.GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, AS ITEM 11, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE WOULD BE INSERTED IN THE DEED TO THE COUNTY, TO WHAT'S HAPPENING, THEY FLIPPING THE ROAD AND TO GO TO THAT NEW RECREATION, ACTUALLY THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE CONVEYED TO THE COUNTY IS JUST WIDE ENOUGH FOR THE ROAD, EXCEPT FOR ONE LITTLE TRINE.
THE NORTHERN END IS ONLY 12, BUT 12.9.
SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LOT MORE, TWO PLUS ACRES.
I THINK LANA REFERRED TO AS A BEACH BEING CONVEYED TO IT IS ALL REINVENTING.
BUT IF, IF THE BOARD ADOPTS THE RESOLUTION AND THE FASHION I'VE SUGGESTED HAVE THAT LANGUAGE INSERTED IN THE DEED MUST SET UP THIS OBJECTIVE TO THE ROBERTA CLAUSE, WHICH IS IN THE DEED FROM, BUT SEE, THE ONLY PROBLEM I SEE WITH THAT IS THAT WE DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNT IS ONE, EVEN AGREE TO THAT.
AND IF TIME WAS NOT UNDER THE S AND THEY DON'T GET THIS DATE, OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
DOES THIS AFFECT OUR DISTANCES BETWEEN OUTSIDE OF THE LIGHTS AND YOU KNOW, NO, SIR.
I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THIS AND SAID HE WASN'T REAL HAPPY WITH IT, EXCEPT SO, SO YOUR, UM, OPINION IS THAT WE SHOULD ADOPT THIS UNDER THE CONDITION THAT WHEN THE COUNTY, UH, WHEN THE GRANTEES CONVEY THEIR INTEREST BACK TO THE COUNTER THAT WE BE INCLUDED IN ALL THE CONDITIONS OF THE ORIGINAL AIRPORT PROPERTY IS INCLUDED IN THIS.
THIS IS A COPY OF THE PLAT SHOWING THE TWO PARCELS.
THIS PARCEL IS BEING CONVEYED.
RATHER THIS PARCEL IS BEING CONVEYED TO THE COUNTY SO THAT THEY CAN PUT THIS FREIGHT THROUGH HIM IN EXCHANGE FOR THE COUNTY, CONVEYING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
BUT THEN MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE HAVE THIS CONVEYANCE TO THE COUNTY SUBJECTED TO THE SAME VERTICAL OR THE SAME LANGUAGE NEED FROM THE CITY TO THE COUNTY FOR SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
THE ONLY THING WITH WHICH WILL BE WOULDN'T BE CONCERNED IS THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE, THIS LITTLE PRIDE.
SO, SO, BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO IT AND WE CAN DO IT, YEAH.
I JUST, I THINK THE KIND OF COMMISSIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
JUST LIKE W WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS TONIGHT.
I DON'T THINK MR.
SO IT WON'T HURT IF WE JUST WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, NO NEED TO DO IT NOW.
WELL, THAT'LL PUT THE
MR. WARD SAYS, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
AND THEY JUST, THE ONES UNDER THE TIME CONSTRAINT.
WELL, I DON'T MIND ADOPTING A RESOLUTION UNDER THE STRICT CONDITION THAT WE, THE LAND, WE EXCHANGE IT.
IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE CITY AND BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
IT WILL BE SUBJECTED TO THE SAME RIVER.
VERTICAL IS THIS IN THE AIRPORT PROPERTY AT NIGHT.
WHEN THE VERDICT CLAUSE SAYS THAT IF THEY EVER GIVE UP THEIR QUIT OPERATING IT AS MAYOR IN THE CITY IS ONE HALF TO COME BACK.
NOW, WHEN THAT GENTLEMAN CONVEYS HIS INTEREST, THE LAND WAS SWAPPING FOR, HE'S GOING TO GIVE A D TO HOME.
I'M JUST GOING TO QUOTE A QUOTE, GOING TO BE THE GRANTEES FROM HIS DEEP FAVORITE COUNTER IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
RAVEN CADDY OR PILOT PROP IS STILL INCREDIBLE COUNTY.
ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE AN AIRPORT AUTHORITY OPERATED NEAR.
SO IT WILL BE PART OF THE, UH, THE LAND IS CONNECTED TO THE AIRPORT.
IS THAT RIGHT? AND IT WAS SO OUTRAGED.
I TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT.
I'M STARTING TO COUNTED AS EXPENSE RATHER THAN CITIZENS, BUT I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING OVER THE SHOULDER.
SO MOVE UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS.
I MOVE WITH A RESOLUTION ON THOSE CONDITIONS AS AMENDED AS A MENTOR, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL
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THE ROLE PLAYS, MAN.MR. MAYOR, WE MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE THREE OPENINGS ON, UH, THE ELECTRIC SERVICE BOARD, ONE IN FOURTH WARD, ONE IN THE SIX TOWNSHIP, ONE IN SEVEN TOWNSHIP.
AND IF THERE'S ANYONE VIEWING THIS TAPE ON CHANNEL 10, WHO WOULD LIKE TO BECOME INVOLVED AND THE CITY GOVERNMENT IN SOME WAY, WE WOULD LIKE TO URGE THEM TO CONTACT ANY ONE OF THE ALDERMAN AND LET THEIR INTEREST TO BE KNOWN AS OPEN NEW, COME UP PERIODICALLY.
AND WE ARE INTERESTED IN PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SERVE.
SO I'M SURE MR. MADIGAN THEN HAVE SOMEONE FROM, UH, THE FOURTH WARD, BUT THERE'S STILL, WE NEED SOMEONE FROM THE TOWNSHIP SIX AND PATRICK SEVEN TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD.
SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO DO THAT, JUST LET US.
AND IN FACT, IF YOU'RE STILL WATCHING, AS LONG AS IT'S MAINTENANCE GONE, YOU HAVE TRUE GRIT.
AND SO WE TRULY, YOU GOTTA BE TOUGH.
HOW ABOUT MISCELLANEOUS? THAT'S THE FREEBIES? UH, ONE QUESTION WAS THE CHIEF, SINCE HE'S HERE.
HOW MANY OF YOUR PATROL CARS NOW HAVE VIDEO AND VIDEO CAMERAS? OKAY.
WE HAVE 19 PATROL CARS THAT HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS MOUNTED IN THEM AT PRESENT.
AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR MORE IN THE BUDGET COMING UP IN THE, UM, GSP GRANT.
WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR 20 GOOD.
AND WHAT THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO HAVE ALL 65 PATROL VEHICLES WITH VIDEO CAMERAS MATTERS.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY VALUABLE ASSET, BOTH FOR THE POLICE AND FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE BE ARRESTED.
IT SIMPLIFIES THINGS FOR THEM.
AND IN THE CITY OF NEWBURN, IF SOMEONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH ANIMALS RUNNING AT LARGE, DO THEY CALL THE NINE ONE ONE NUMBER? OR WHO DO THEY CALL? YEAH, THEY, THEY CAN CALL IT.
IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, THEY CAN CALL 9 1 1.
IF NOT, THEY CAN CALL THE SIX THREE THREE THREE ZERO TWO ZERO DURING OFFICE HOURS.
AND THEY CAN GET THE COMMUNICATION CENTER ANYTIME 24 HOURS A DAY.
I WAS WONDERING, BECAUSE I KNOW A WHILE BACK, THERE WERE SOME RACCOONS GOT INTO THE DUMPSTER AT A, AT A DAYCARE CENTER AND THE CITY WOULDN'T EVEN GO THERE.
AND THE COUNTY SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HANDLE.
AND THE STATE SAID WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE.
AND IT WAS VERY CONFUSING FOR THE PEOPLE, BUT WE CAN TRACK THEM.
THEY WERE IN THE DUMPSTER AND COULDN'T GET OUT.
BUT THE PEOPLE WERE AFRAID TO GO NEAR THE DUMPSTER BECAUSE THEY WERE, THERE WAS A RABIES SCARE AT THE TIME AND EVERYBODY WAS TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO GO, GO AND GET THOSE THREE RACCOONS WAS OUT OF THAT DUMPSTER.
BUT, UH, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IN THE CITY, EVEN IF IT'S A WILD ANIMAL LIKE THAT, THE CITY WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM.
NOW WE HAVE OUR TWO ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS.
WE, WE CAPTURED THE GOOSE IN MISS RANDOLPH'S CREEK, SO THERE'S NO LONGER A GOOSE PROBLEM THERE.
THE GOOSE DID AT FIVE EGGS AND MOM AND GOOSEY EGGS ARE DOING FINE.
MYTH RAN OFF SAY SHE DIDN'T OWN THAT CREEK.
I MAY, I DO HAVE ONE OTHER THING TO MENTION HERE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE BOARD.
THE, UH, THE FIRST WEEKEND IN JUNE WILL BE THE ONE OF TWO MEETINGS THIS YEAR, THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR ENERGY ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES AND THE THREE ITEMS ON THEIR AGENDA.
UH, NUMBER ONE IS ELECTRIC DEREGULATION, WHICH I KNOW WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF.
WE JUST DON'T WANT TO GET DRUGGED OVER THE COLIN'S FINANCIALLY IN THE PROCESS.
BUT THE MAJOR THRUST WILL BE TO TRY TO KEEP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OUT OF IT BECAUSE THEY, THEY WANT TO TAKE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH.
AND THAT WILL NOT WORK WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A TOWN LIKE NEW BERN AND A TOWN LIKE NEW YORK UNDER THE SAME LAW.
THE, UH, THE SECOND THING IS HOW TO, HOW TO GET MORE GOVERNMENT FUNDING FOR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, TO HELP WITH DRAINAGE PROBLEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THE THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, WHICH IS, UH, THE, THE LOW, THE LOW ONE ON THE TOTEM POLE.
YOU MIGHT SAY THE OTHERS ARE MORE PERTINENT, BUT ANYWAY, I WILL BE AT THAT MEETING.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU A REPORT WHEN I GET BACK ON APPRECIATING WHAT'S DONE.
AND MY WIFE HAS CLAIMED I'M ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES.
HOW ABOUT CHECKING IT? WHEN YOU'RE, IF YOU BOUGHT ANOTHER CAR, YOU WOULDN'T BE EXACTLY RIGHT.
ONE THING THAT I'D LIKE TO, UH, DISPLAY UNDER MISCELLANEOUS IS THAT UNLIKE FOR MIKE AVERY, I RECKON YOU'D BE THE PROPER GUY TO DO THIS.
WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED THE PROBLEM WITH TRASH IN THE CITY AND NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.
AND I TALKED TO DANNY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY.
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IF YOU, AND AGAIN, I'M JUST GUESSING THAT YOU BEAT THE PERSON THAT COULD DO THIS, BUT LOOK AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND DECIDE HOW WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME REPRESENTATIVES.LIKE OBVIOUSLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE ALL WOMEN CAN ALL, UH, APPOINT SOMEBODY FROM THE DIFFERENT WARDS.
YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING WE WOULDN'T DO IT JUST BY AWARD, BUT THEN SOMEBODY WAR IS A PRETTY BIG JET GEOGRAPHICALLY.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
MOST OF THEM, ANYWAY, IF HE CAN COME UP WITH SOME METHODOLOGY THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE WHOLE CITY.
AND THEN WE, AS A BOARD, AGREE TO APPOINT PEOPLE FROM THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS.
SOME OF THEM ALREADY DETERMINED, LIKE THE HEADS, YOU KNOW, LASTLY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT GIVE US WHO THEY WANT AND SO FORTH.
THEN I HAD SOME OTHERS FROM ME, UH, WARDS, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'VE COVERED THE WHOLE CITY.
AND THEN I'D LIKE FOR THE CHIEF TO GIVE US AT LEAST A PERSON WHO, UH, PROBABLY WILL TAKE A LITTLE RIBBON FOR BEING IN CHARGE OF THE LITTER PATROL OR WHATEVER, BUT THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS AND I'M SERIOUS.
AND I THINK THAT WE CAN FIND THEY GET AHOLD OF THIS SITUATION AND THIS TOWNS, AND, AND MAYBE DO IT IN SUCH A MANNER THAT WE CAN SHOW THE REST OF IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I STILL BELIEVE IT.
ONE OF THE WAYS TO KEEP THE PLACE CLEAN IS TO CLEAN IT UP BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY NOT TO THROW THE TRASH OUT PLACES CLEAN.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLEAN IT UP, START FROM SCRATCH.
SO, UH, I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT THAT LITTERING CHARGE IS WHY THE POLICE, I THINK HE TOLD US ONE TIME, CHIEF, WE'RE NOT REALLY TAKING ALL THAT SERIOUSLY.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BUT, BUT KNOW WE CAN SEND A RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO ASK THE ONES IN THE COURT SYSTEM TO PLEASE HELP US.
AND THEY ASKED HIM WHEN WE WRITE A LETTER AND TICKET, WE WERE SERIOUS ABOUT IT AND WE WON'T PUT A STOP TO THIS MASS.
SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO VOLUNTEER TO CLEAN IT UP? I'M GOING TO DO ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS.
I'M GOING TO VOLUNTEER SOMEONE ELSE.
I'VE GOT A FEW HOUSES TO WORK ON IN WOODROW AND PAVEY TOWN, BUT OUR CITY APPEARANCE COMMISSION WORKS ON THESE KINDS OF ISSUES.
AND THAT I MIGHT SUGGEST THE CITY MANAGER MIGHT BE A GOOD PROJECT FOR THEM.
AND MAYBE THEY WERE MAYBE THEY IT UP AND THEY GET IT GOING LIKE MIKE WOULD DO.
CAN I ASK EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING? THEY CAN HEAD IT UP, BUT THEY, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ENOUGH OF THEM TO COVER ALL OF NEXT.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS KIND OF LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH.
YOU'VE GOT TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO SMALL ENOUGH AREAS THAT PEOPLE KIND OF FEEL RESPONSIBLE THAT, HEY, YOU'RE TOSSING STUFF OUT IN MY, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T LIKE IT.
AND THEN HAVING AN AVENUE OF WHERE TO GO TO, TO REPORT IT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE RIDING THROUGH YOUR TOSS AND STUFF OUT, LET THE CHIEF SEND SOMEBODY AROUND AND TEACH HIM.
THERE ARE OTHER WAYS YOU'RE OUT OF HERE IN CONNECTION WITH YOUR, UH, ANTI-LITTER OR CLEANUP NEIGHBORHOOD, A VILLAGE OVER A VILLAGE IN THE WOODS.
I HAD A SIGN THAT WAS AN ENTRANCE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IT HAD BEEN THERE SEVERAL YEARS AND THE COMMUNITY GOT TOGETHER AND GOT THE SIGN REPAINTED, AND WE GOT AN EXPERT TO DO IT.
UH, UH, JOE SIGN COMPANY CAME IN AND REDID THE REFRESH, THE SIGN.
NOW IT'S ALL BEEN PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT TO EVERY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH TO PICK OUT SOMETHING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S AN EYESORE OR SOMETHING.
THEY COULD BE FIXED BY THAT JUST COMMUNITY EFFORT.
AND IT CERTAINLY HELPED THE APPEARANCE OF THE OVERALL APPEARANCE OF THE CITY.
HOW MANY, WITHOUT ANY QUESTION, IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN IT DID.
WHICH I AM CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY CRIME WATCH.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A CLEANUP IN ROAD, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE RUIN IN APRIL, MAY, JUNE, ABOUT MIDDLE OF JUNE.
HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT GETTING DUMPSTERS OUT THERE? CAUSE I THINK I HAD PEOPLE TO ASK ME ABOUT THEM.
THEY NEED TO CLEAN OUT RIGHT BEHIND.
HE'S RAISING HIS HAND WE WORK WITH ALL COMMUNITY.
MATTER OF FACT, WE GOT ONE THIS WEEKEND.
THAT MEANS WE, WE PROVIDE SERVICE IN A WEEK.
THAT'S THE MAIN ONE OTHER THING.
KIND OF ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT MR. MATTINGLY AND YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH ISSUE.
THE DEPARTMENT HAS JUST, UH, INITIATED A NEW PROGRAM FOR NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH, WHERE WE HAD DIVIDED THE CITY UP.
WE HAVE, UH, 32 NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY.
UH, WE HAVE ABOUT 16 ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES AND WE'VE ASSIGNED
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PERMANENTLY TO OFFICES TO EACH ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES.SO WE HAVE 64 OFFICERS ASSIGNED IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN THIS DONE, WHERE THEY'RE PERMANENTLY ASSIGNED IT AND MAKING IT WAS WHAT THEIR RANK IS OR WHERE THEY'RE TRANSFERRED TO, OR THEIR PROMOTIONS ARE FOR THEIR CAREER.
THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO THESE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES.
AND MOST, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ARE VOLUNTEERS FOR THESE PROGRAMS. SO WE'RE REAL EXCITED ABOUT IT.
AND IT'S AN AVENUE WHERE IF A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH IS INTERESTED IN THE LITTER ISSUE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THEY'LL HAVE TWO OFFICES, THEY CAN CONTACT DIRECTLY AND WORK WITH THEM.
SO IT MIGHT FIT RIGHT INTO WHAT YOU'VE TALKED TO, BUT I'D LIKE FOR HIM TO KNOW, AND I'M SURE YOU PAY IT, YOU KNOW, MATTERING AND NEW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND IT NOT BE JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS LIKE KINDA WHEN YOU GREW UP LITERALLY CHEWING GUM WRAPPER.
AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE MY COLOMBO DEAL.
AND I HAVE SOME THEORIES ON WHY IT'S THIS WAY, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY WILL AGREE AS SOON AS I SAY IT THERE, WHAT I'M SAYING IS EXACTLY TRUE.
AND THAT IS WHEN, WHEN ALL I WAS WERE MUCH YOUNGER.
IF THERE WASN'T A SOUL ANYWHERE TO BE SEEN, AND THERE WAS A STOP SIGN, YOU STOPPED AND YOU CAME TO A STOP.
LITTLE HAIRPIN IS NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TELLING YOU THAT DAY HAS GONE AND COME, THE YELLOW LIGHT MEANS FLOORING, WHAT IT MEANS, BUT I HAVE SOME THEORIES ABOUT WHY THAT'S HAPPENING.
IT'S NOT JUST A KNEE, BUT IT'S EVERYWHERE.
IT'S JUST EXACTLY LIKE YOUR TRASH THING.
AND I, MY IDEA BEHIND THAT IS ONE THING WE'VE ALL DEVELOPED SORT OF A GENERAL SLOPPING IT'S ABOUT THE TRASH, THE LIGHTS AND THE WHOLE BUSINESS.
THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE LIGHTS IS BECAUSE TRAFFIC IN GENERAL IS SO MUCH WORSE, EVERYWHERE THAN IT USED TO BE.
AND A LOT OF THE WHITES AT THE LIGHTS ARE SO MUCH LONGER THAN THEY USED TO BE UNTIL PEOPLE HAVE THAT SENSE OF URGENCY.
THAT IT, MY GOD, IF I DON'T MAKE THIS LIGHT, I'M GOING TO BE STUCK HERE FOR FIVE MORE MINUTES.
BUT WHATEVER THAT IS, THAT'S A PROBLEM WITHIN ITSELF THAT MIGHT CAUSE SOME STUDIES TO BE DONE TO SEE IF WE NEED MORE LIGHT.
I MEAN, THEY'D LIKE STRIPPING FASTER OR I DON'T KNOW, BUT WHAT WE DO NEED TO DO.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S PROPER TO GIVE REAL TICKETS, WARNING TICKETS.
I MEAN, THAT'S AFTER THE POLICE, BUT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO LET PEOPLE MODE THAT IT IN THE CITY OF NEWBURN IS, YOU KNOW, THE OLD WAY WAS THE BEST WAY.
AND THAT WAS YOU COME TO A STOP.
YOU DON'T RUN THROUGH THE YELLOW LIGHT OR SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET HURT BIG TIME.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S MADE, SO THE, IT HAMILTON, JUST LET ME GIVE YOU A QUICK EXAMPLE.
LAST MONTH WE WROTE 940 TRAFFIC TICKETS THE MONTH BEFORE THAT 830 SOME ODD THE MONTH BEFORE THAT, ABOUT 900.
SO WE DO NOT TAKE TRAFFIC LIGHTLY.
WE HAVE OUR SIX TRAFFIC OFFICERS, BUT THE ENTIRE PATROL DIVISION WORKS VERY VIGOROUSLY ON TRAFFIC.
WE HAVE A VERY SAFE CITY FROM A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT PERSPECTIVE, AND WE DO NOT HESITATE TO WRITE TICKETS WHEN TICKETS AND THAT'S AS MUCH TO THE CHAGRIN OF A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO GET THEM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE REALLY RIGOROUSLY ENFORCED THE TRAFFIC REGULATIONS AND, AND I GOT THE STATISTICS TO PROVE IT SO WELL, I'M SURE, BUT I WISH THEY WOULD CONCENTRATE AND MAYBE THEY ARE CONCENTRATE ON JUST THAT ONE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT HIS LIGHTS, BECAUSE TO ME, IF SOMEBODY HAS GOT SPEED, A BIG TRUCK OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES, IT TAKES SOME VELOCITY AND A COLLISION THING.
THAT'S ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE ISSUES THAT, UH, OR, OR CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CAUSE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, FALL INTO CLOSE SPEED AND, AND, UH, NOT STOPPING FOR RUNNING RED LIGHTS.
AND IT'S PART OF OUR EMPHASIS IN THE GHP GHP GRANT IS TO, UH, TRY TO WORK ON AGGRESSIVE DRIVING.
AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF ADDRESS, AGGRESSIVE DRIVING.
AND WE'RE REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY PUT A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON IT.
IF YOU GOT THE MAN SITTING DOWN AND BUY SOME OF THOSE LIGHTS AND LET HIM BE VISIBLE ONE DAY OR TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH, COME AND MARK OR WHATEVER THAT WILL GIVE THEM THAT SUCK.
GO AHEAD, MR. MATT, WHAT IS YOUR OPINION PROFESSIONALLY ON THE SPEED LIMIT ON MLK BOULEVARD IS 50 MILES NOW, RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF OUR MOST BUSY SHOPPING AREA, 50 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THAT HIGHWAY IS OBSCENE IN MY OPINION.
AND I'VE ASKED TO HAVE IT DUES AND VOT.
UH, I THINK, UM, MR. MEADOWS SENT A LETTER TO THEM AND THEY SAID NOT A PROBLEM.
THAT'S THE OLDER PAST COCA-COLA PLANT, ACCORDING TO THE CHIEF'S OWN STATISTICS HERE, THAT'S A HIGH ACCIDENT AREA.
CAN WE REOPEN THAT ISSUE AGAIN? A DANNY? I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'D BE TIRED OF TELLING THOSE FOLKS THAT IT'S TOO FAST OR DO THEY BELIEVE, UH, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO REQUEST, THEN I'M SURE TO CHIEF CAN ADD SOMETHING TO THAT.
WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO IS LOOK AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT, MOVING TRAFFIC, RIGHT? AND, AND THEY UNDERSTAND AS WELL AS I DO THAT DURING THE DAY, WHEN, WHEN THERE'S BUSINESS, YOU CAN'T RUN 50 MILES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LEGAL, YOU CAN'T RUN THEM BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE LIGHTS
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AND YOU'VE GOT ALL THE TRAFFIC.WHAT THEY LOOK AT FROM THE STANDPOINT IS IF IT'S SIGNED AT 35 MILE PER HOUR, THAT'S STARTED FIVE MILE PER WITH 24 HOURS.
AND THAT, THAT IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND TO TRY AND MOVE THE TRAFFIC.
BUT IF THIS BOARD WANTS TO REQUEST, WE CAN ASK FOR IT.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'VE GOT GIVEN TO THEM MOSTLY PHONICS TO MAKE SURE THAT AT DIFFERENT TIMES, LIKE 2:00 AM IN THE MORNING, WE CAN RAISE IT TO 40.
BUT I THINK DURING THE DAY, THE MAXIMUM BUSINESS PART OF THE DAY, IT SHOULD BE LOWERED TO LESS THAN 50, MAYBE 45, MAYBE EVEN 40.
AGAIN, TO FORGET 50 MILE AN HOUR WIND EVERY DAY.
I DON'T THINK HE CAN DO WITH IT'S THE MAYOR.
CAN WE MAKE ANOTHER REQUEST TO THE OT TO ASK THEM TO RESEARCH THE PROBLEM AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S, I'LL BE MEETING WITH MR. MADDOX HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, A REFERENCE TO TRY AND PALACE, UH, TRAFFIC ISSUES.
AND I CAN CERTAINLY RAISE THE ISSUE WITH HIM AGAIN, WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE? WHY DON'T YOU DO IT THIS WAY? TELL HIM TO ASK D O T THE JUSTIFICATION FOR LEAVING IT AT THAT SPEED LIMIT.
AND THAT'LL KIND OF ANSWER OUR QUESTION AS TO WHY IT'S BRINGING UP ANY, I GOT GOOD REASONS.
SO BE HERE WHEN I'M IN, IT SHOULD HAVE GOOD REASON OR ELSE IT SHOULDN'T BE JANE.
AND ONE OTHER THING BEFORE WE QUIT, HE'S GOT, I'M A MALE.
I THOUGHT I'VE GOT THREE THINGS, BUT FIRST OF ALL, I W I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN NAMED ONE OF THE FINALISTS FOR THE ALL-AMERICA CITY AWARDS, WHICH WOULD BE OUR SECOND TIME GOING AROUND THROUGH THIS THING.
SO IF WE WIN, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT HAD WON MORE THAN ONE TIME, BUT THAT NUMBER IS NOT LARGE.
SO WE WOULD, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT WOULD PUT US WITHIN A VERY SELECT GROUP.
I TALKED WITH THE PERSON FROM ATLANTA TODAY, AND THEY'RE DOWN, WE'RE DOWN TO 30 CITIES.
AND, UH, WE'LL BE PRESENTING THE, UH, OUR APPLICATION IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY, JUNE 1ST THROUGH THE THIRD.
AND, UH, ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS COURSE AT THE DELEGATION THAT YOU GET IS SIGNIFICANT THERE.
WHAT THEY LOOK AT, EVERYTHING WHO YOU BRING, WHAT THE ENTHUSIASM IS, WHAT THE PRESENTATION IS, WHAT YOUR PROJECTS ARE, ALL OF THAT.
SO WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT APPLICATION BASED ON THIS YEAR? UH, THIS YEAR, HIS APPLICATION WAS BASED ON THE MERCY CLINIC, THE OPERATION OF MERCY CLINIC, THE, UH, OPERATION OF A PROGRAM BY THE A WOMAN'S COUNCIL HERE IN THE CITY, AND ALSO ON THE COUNCIL BLUFF AND UNION POINT PROJECTS.
SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL BE SUCCESSFUL.
UH, SECONDLY, UH, THE, I HAVE TWO ISSUES THAT, UH, I NEED TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT MONEY, AND ONE OF THEM NEEDS TO BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THE FIRST ISSUE THOUGH, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, UH, I HAD A LETTER FROM, UH, HAROLD BLIZZARD RECENTLY.
HE AND I HAD TALKED EARLIER, UH, SAY EARLIER BEING FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO, ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING THE, UH, UH, IMPLEMENTING THE URBAN DESIGN PLAN, UH, DESIGNS ON THE WALKWAY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE NEAR THE, UH, NEW CONVENTION CENTER AS A PART OF THEIR CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT.
AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THE WALKWAY FROM, UH, WHERE IT COMES OUT AT, UH, SOUTH FRONT STREET, ALL THE WAY AROUND TO WHERE BASICALLY WHERE THE, UH, SHARED A PROPERTY STARTS.
AND WE WOULD DO THAT IN THE URBAN DESIGN PLAN.
THAT'S $140,000 PROJECT TO DO THAT.
UH, THE COUNTY HAS, UH, AGREED TO PAY HALF OF THE COST IF, UH, THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT WOULD AGREE TO PAY THE OTHER HALF.
UH, I SPOKE TO THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD YESTERDAY AT LUNCH, THEY HAVE AGREED THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PROJECT, AND THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO LEVERAGE MONEY FOR GETTING THAT PROJECT DONE.
AND SO, UH, THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT.
AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD THAT WE AGREED TO, UH, MATCH THAT OUT OF THE MSD MADE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO SEE A MOTION ON THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT AT SLATER.
THEY GET THAT MUCH MONEY IN THEIR BUSH.
I THINK THEY HAVE A RIGHT AT THREE, WELL THAT THEY DON'T HAVE IT IN THEIR BUDGET, BUT, AND THEIR CASH.
THEY DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH BUDGETED, BUT THEY HAVE CASH OF ABOUT $300,000.
AND NONE OF THIS IS COMING FROM THE CITY.
IT'S ALL COMING FROM THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT, BUT IT'S THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY WE DON'T WANT A PROPERTY
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DAMAGE.UH, THIRD THING IS, UH, WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND IT'S A RELATIVE TO REAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION.
I HAVE ONE ITEM BOARD WOULD TAKE IT UP AND WE'LL TAKE JUST A MINUTE.
I WAS ASKED TO PREPARE A DEED OF EACH MONTH SO THAT WHEN THE CENTER DIRECTOR SIGN UP THERE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WOMEN'S NOW FIND THEM ALL ON IT.
WHERE THE SUN JOURNAL IS OFFICER'S GROUP.
THAT IS GOING TO BE CALLED THE WEATHER CONDITIONS RIGHT NEXT TO THE NORTHERN RIGHT AWAY.
WHAT WOULD THE BOULEVARD IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE PAVED AREA, PROPER ON THE STREET WHO WANTED THAT UP THERE? I WAS GOING TO ATTACK IT FIRST BY DANNY AND MIKE MOORE TO CALL ME.
AND WE MAY HAVE BEEN, DANNY TOLD MIKE TO CALL ME I WILL, IT JUST MADE US SIGN, OR LET'S JUST MEET OUR SIGN ORDINANCE.
IS THAT WE GOT, HAVE YOU SEEN IT? THE, THE ONLY THING THAT I KNOW DID YOU TRANSFER THE PROPERTY? SO THEY, WELL, WE'VE GOT AN OLD ENOUGH TO WALK, HAVE A SCIENCE CAN GO UP.
IT'S BROUGHT ON MY THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS YEAR, GIVING THEM PERMISSION TO PUT UP A SIGN.
TH THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS IS THAT WHEN YOU START GRANTING EASEMENT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE GRANTING THE PERSON, A PERPETUAL, RIGHT.
AND IT'S, THIS IS PUBLIC PROPERTY.
AND MOST FOLKS, WHEN THEY GET EASINESS OR EASEMENT, THEY GET SOME KIND OF CONSIDERATION, SOME KIND OF MONIES.
AND WE KNOW WE'RE DEALING WITH PUBLIC PROPERTY AND WE'RE ALLOWING A PRIVATE ENTITY TO HAVE A EASEMENT OR THE RIGHT TO USE PUBLIC PROPERTY WITH NO MONEY INVOLVED.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, DO WE GIVE OF PUBLIC PROPERTY TO PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL, TO YOU WITHOUT ANY MONEY? PROBABLY LIKE WE SIT HERE HAS DONE THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES OVER THE YEARS, USUALLY THEIR REQUEST OR SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
A HOUSE HAD BEEN BUILT OVER STREET RIGHT AWAY AND IS IN THE STREET.
THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN ONE WHICH INVOLVED AND SIGNED, WELL, THE SIGN IS GOING TO BENEFIT THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THEY NEED TO PAY FOR THAT.
SO, UH, I THINK, UH, WE ARE NOT TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF GIVING AWAY PROPERTY FOR NOTHING, NOTHING AGAINST YOU.
BUT I THINK THIS BOARD SHOULDN'T BE GIVING AWAY, UH, PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR PRIVATE YOUTH FOR FREE.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE GRANTING PROB INDIVIDUALS, THE RIGHT TO USE FOR LAND.
YOU KNOW, IF I WANT, UH, A EASEMENT FROM THE CITY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD EXPECT TO PAY FOR IT, GIVE YOU SOMETHING FOR IT.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO GRANT AN EASEMENT TO SOMEBODY TO USE YOUR LAND, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT SOMETHING FOR IT.
AND I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE TAX PAYER TO GET SOMETHING FOR IT.
IF WE'RE GOING TO DO GIVEN PRA PUBLIC PROPERTY, BUT PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS ARE USE TO THE EXCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC.
THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT THAT, THAT THIS IS JUST DECIDED, YOU KNOW, WE NEED AN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE NEGOTIATED.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO DEAL WITH THIS RIGHT NOW.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS GIVING AWAY LAND THAT AT LEAST THE RIGHT TO USE IT AND SAY, NOBODY ELSE, CAN YOU, WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE GET AN EASEMENT TO PUT, FOR EXAMPLE, A WATERLINE ACROSS SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY, WE NEGOTIATE A PRICE WITH, SOMETIMES IT JUST DEPENDS.
SOMETIMES THEY GIVE IT TO US AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM CONSIDERATION.
WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND ON THIS? UM, I JUST WONDER WHY THE URGENCY IN THIS IS THERE SOME REAL FAST URGENCY THAT WE NEED? WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT THIS OFF AND LET US LOOK
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AT IT FROM, AND LET US SIT AND MANAGE AND NEGOTIATE A PRICE AND BRING IT BACK TO US.UH, I GUESS FROM THE MIDDLE OF THIS SCENE, BUT ANYWAY, UH, FRED MORTON AND MR. WELLINS APPROACHED ME AND IT'S BEEN SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND THEY HAD TALKED TO MENARD AND, AND AS MR. WARD SAID, THEY WANT TO PUT A SIGN UP, BUT THE SIGN THEY WANTED TO PUT UP WAS ON, ON PUBLIC PROPERTY AND IN TALKING TO THEM AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT MR. RAYNOR SAYING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, IN THAT AGREEMENT, UH, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THAT.
AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN SOMEONE ELSE DOES AND THAT'S US.
AND, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT ENTIRE, UH, AREA IS, UH, IS IN PROPERTY OR WHELAN'S PARK OR WHATEVER THEY CALL HIM THE SIGN.
SO I DIDN'T SEE ANY REAL MAJOR ISSUE WITH, BUT DEFINITELY IF YOU WANT, WAIT, WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
UH, THE, THE OTHER SIDE IS I, I OFFERED THEM THE SAME THING THAT THE BOARD HAS, HAS DONE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.
UH, YOU KNOW, EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE, UH, SIGNS IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND SUBDIVISIONS.
I SAID, YOU MAY WANT TO TALK TO, UH, ALL MY BOUNDARY BECAUSE HE'S BORED AND HE MAY JUST PROVIDE ONE OF THOSE.
THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE UPSCALE THAN THAT.
WE HAVE THOSE ALL OVER TOWN, UH, PROVIDE THE SAME FUNCTION AS THE ONE THAT'S FOR AWHILE SPENCER AVENUE.
I MEAN, BASICALLY THE SAME THING, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO PERPETUALLY MAINTAIN IT AND ALL THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS RIGHT AWAY, UH, PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.
AND, UH, IN, IN THEIR DEFENSE, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY TRIED TO DEED THAT RIGHT AWAY TO THE CITY, UH, THEY, THEY HAD, UH, KIND OF BLOCKED THAT A LITTLE AREA THERE OUT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND I SAID, NO, WHAT? I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.
WELL, HOW ABOUT YOU? CAN'T CONFUSE THESE SIGNS.
AND WE PUT UP FROM NEIGHBORHOODS, NEIGHBORHOODS, THIS IS A BUSINESS.
WE SAID WE HAD TO HAVE AN EASY, IF IT'S NOT URGENT, THEN I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING FOR HALFS.
AND, UH, LET US LOOK INTO A LITTLE FURTHER.
AND I THINK YOUR POINTS THAT YOU MAKE ARE VERY WELL TAKEN.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM THEN I GUESS WE'LL MOVE.
DID SOMEBODY WANT TO MOVE TO JUST TAKE IT UP NEXT AFTER FURTHER CONSIDERATION WITH ROLLING THIS WON'T TAKE LONG, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.